40k-book-club

[simple cloud]

Tartavokosiky

[tall phoenix]

Last thing I care about bruh nah 😭

[celest heron]

One of the later ones has a heroic ccp scene which was pretty funny

Had a prof whose desktop background was a slide show of transformers

Asked him "so what do you think about the micheal bay movies"

[simple cloud]

lmao based

That movie is just unapologetically bad

[celest heron]

He looked like gru had just eaten shit

[tall phoenix]

My favorite part was the crowd of people defending these movies before they got legit so awful they killed the movie franchise

[simple cloud]

It's a beautiful thing.

How did the first one not kill it tbh

[celest heron]

Nah the og one

Ie pistol megatron

[simple cloud]

OH

oh

[celest heron]

Shockwave

[finite frigate]

the first transformers is fine

[simple cloud]

Original transformers was also pretty bad lmao but it was the 80s

[celest heron]

20th anniversery movie slaps

[tall phoenix]

the O.G transformers is peak

YOU GOT THE TOUCH

[simple cloud]

The movie was hilarious b/c it featured the voice of a half-dead Orson Welles

[celest heron]

With optimus prime getting fucking murdered in the beggining

[tall phoenix]

along with most of the autobot cast

which traumatized most kids

[celest heron]

Every time I hear orson welles I think of the band Manowar

Because he did some absolutely meme worthy narrationsnfor them

And then when they remade it they used christopher lee

[simple cloud]

Yes I saw this and also Aliens when I was 4

[celest heron]

[simple cloud]

And now here I am

Perfectly adjusted

[celest heron]

I accidentally watched hentai when I was 4

Good times

[simple cloud]

[finite frigate]

gigachad

[celest heron]

Still dont know what it was

[tall phoenix]

I watched Aliens when i was a little girl and I could not get past the scene ever where the entire marine landing party gets killed

it legit was too scary for me lol

[royal egret]

Transformers 1, 3 and like 5 I think were ok.

Whatever one had the sniper dude and Kelsey Grammar.

But largely they’ve sucked, but idk I’m not the target audience largely anyways these days

[tall phoenix]

1 was the only good one, they all sucked

[simple cloud]

I loved it. But

[wise yew]

I would also like to say that Transformers one is also Peak

[finite frigate]

3 was alright too

[simple cloud]

It also made me scared of the dark for like a year not kidding

[tall phoenix]

same

i think the one that traumatized me the most was like uh

[royal egret]

Dark Side of the Moon is better than 1 imo

[tall phoenix]

that flamethrower dude getting lit on fire

[celest heron]

Predator was peak

[tall phoenix]

and falling to that industrial pit

that always stuck with me lol

[finite frigate]

I think 5 is the last knight aka the worst one

[royal egret]

Maybe 4 then

[tall phoenix]

it was so bad it literally killed the series

which i guess for the better

CHINA

[simple cloud]

Yeah also the face acid

[tall phoenix]

YEP

[finite frigate]

age of extinction is worse than 3 but maybe better than 2

[tall phoenix]

its gnarly

[wise yew]

Transformers: Age of Extinction?

[royal egret]

Didn’t they make like 2 more after

[tall phoenix]

LMAO

YOU DONT EVEN REMEMBER?

Actually yeah idfk either

[royal egret]

Idk I don’t keep track of this shit

[finite frigate]

they made bumblebee after the last knight

[royal egret]

They’re mostly pretty shit

[tall phoenix]

Im mostly here for the racist mexican robots

what did Bay mean by this?

[royal egret]

Impressive CGI

[finite frigate]

baysed

[royal egret]

But wasted largely on the goofiness

[tall phoenix]

yeah that

[finite frigate]

monsterverse is the new hotness for cgi battles

[wise yew]

rise of the beast

[tall phoenix]

there it is

[wise yew]

was mid

[finite frigate]

oh yeah rise of the beasts. very forgettable

[tall phoenix]

Revenge of the Fallen my favorite Dark Angels movie

[wise yew]

yes i know i said rice i'm asian it's in my blood

[royal egret]

Yeah so it’s 1,3,4 which I thought were ok

[tall phoenix]

3 is only good because it has an old robot man get violently murdered

which we of course all stand for lets be fair

[finite frigate]

where tf is the gi joe movie

[tall phoenix]

LOL

SHUT UP

[finite frigate]

rise of the beasts showed it would happen

end credits

[wise yew]

wait dils did you see transformers one

[tall phoenix]

Yes

its peak

[smoky bronze]

Rise of the beasts had funny moments but none of them were intended and half of them involved looking stuff up on the transformers wiki

[tall phoenix]

aaaa im not listening!!!!

[wise yew]

indeed, the trailers did not do it justice

[tall phoenix]

yeah everyone was expecting a goofy kids movie

[finite frigate]

https://youtu.be/V3d2mi8JrmA

[wise yew]

yet what we saw was one of the most heartbreaking tragedies in the transformers multiverse

[smoky bronze]

"What if we make our all ages spectacle explosions movie about a serial genocide robot"

[wise yew]

i don't know what went through their head on putting GI joe on the same verse where this thing existed but i want some of what they're smoking

[smoky bronze]

Also movie optimus is SO violent

[tall phoenix]

hes literally a space marine

"GIVE ME YOUR FACE"

[smoky bronze]

In every one of then he just wants to KILL

[wise yew]

Piece of tin

[tall phoenix]

LOL

YEA

"I RISE, YOU FALL."

[wise yew]

i will say it is definitely the most violent version of optimus prime

[royal egret]

It’s not intentional but I do think it’s actually a good portrayal of how he probably should be acting after thousands of years of fighting

[tall phoenix]

Yeah thats the most hilarious part

hes just violent for the sake of spectacle

[royal egret]

Compared to the normal Boy Scout one we get

[tall phoenix]

but you can headcannon its just him going jaded

[wise yew]

Like out of all the primes I have seen he's definitely the most violent

Yeah years of war does a lot to someone's mental

[finite frigate]

Optimus was onto something when he killed those dudes like that

[tall phoenix]

the one where he rips open Blackout's fucking face with his hooks is NUTS

[finite frigate]

like with sentinel he was begging for his own life moments earlier but sentinel was about to execute him

[tall phoenix]

ok but to be fair

it was pretty funny

"NOOO OPTIMUS-"

[wise yew]

Yeah you remember me replying to you, with

Grindor Dilara Grindor

[royal egret]

I mean tbf Sentinel was also trying to murder him seconds earlier and had killed his friends

[finite frigate]

das what i said

[wise yew]

straight up ripped his face in half

[smoky bronze]

i just think its funny that in the lore being a prime is like a personality thing (the page is called Matrix Check on the wiki which made me laugh so i clicked it)
movie optimus would not pass the matrix check i think

[tall phoenix]

He does that a lot.

[royal egret]

I misread it the other way

[finite frigate]

fair enough, my use of pronouns made it confusing

[royal egret]

It’s not my fault you guys write bad

[tall phoenix]

Shut up tincan

https://tenor.com/view/transformers-sentinel-optimus-prime-optimus-prime-gif-26529362

[wise yew]

the inquisitor when he catches a space marine lackin

[royal egret]

All I see is steel winning

[smoky bronze]

the transformer lore is insane

[tall phoenix]

THEY ARE BOTH STEEL

[royal egret]

Yes so steel won

Common Steel W

[finite frigate]

i wish transformers one was in a more bay-like visual style

aka realistic super cgi

[tall phoenix]

I think it being more kids-like works better

[smoky bronze]

the cartoon was using a fake middle eastern country called "carbombya" until TOO RECENTLY

[tall phoenix]

also that kind of animation would be EXPENSIVE

[finite frigate]

yeah it'd be one of the most expensive movies ever probably

[wise yew]

ehh nah i've already seen that like 5 times

i've had my fill of that type of style already

[royal egret]

https://tenor.com/view/hugh-jackman-punch-reel-steal-shadow-boxing-ko-gif-11518160

[finite frigate]

but none of them are on cybertron and only about the trans

[royal egret]

Unrelated

I can’t believe Real Steel is a real movie that was made

[smoky bronze]

transformers one should have had shia laboeuf in it

[finite frigate]

all of them spend 80% of their time being about stupid human stuff

[royal egret]

I kinda love it ngl but

[finite frigate]

no but seriously if they brought back shia labeouf id be fucking hyped

[wise yew]

one of my favorite movies

[royal egret]

Man it’s so bizarre

[smoky bronze]

i think he DIES between the movies??

[royal egret]

It does deliver on the cool robot fights

[wise yew]

i mean it's using giant robots for boxing what's so bizarre about it

[smoky bronze]

they basically dont talk about it but i remember it being implied

[royal egret]

I hope one day we get to have combat robot fights

[finite frigate]

"A photo of Sam is seen in Sir Edmund Burton’s mansion, establishing him as part of the Order of the Witwiccans. Given that Burton stated that he is the last surviving member of the order, it can be assumed that Sam died prior to the events of the film."

that secret society shit in TLK was so dumb

[royal egret]

https://tenor.com/view/real-steel-gif-11441443088699348850

[smoky bronze]

yeah lmao

[royal egret]

You know it did seem

A little unsafe

[wise yew]

well to be fair this is on the underground

Actually mandated leagues have safety precautions because the head of the robot flying at the crowd isn't a good idea

[finite frigate]

tell that to nascar goers

[royal egret]

NASCAR is pretty safe tbh, mostly like rally racing and stuff

[wise yew]

Also why are you putting a specialized robot that's designed to fight in rule a controlled environment versus a robot that doesn't even box most of the time and is basically a mixed martial artist

[royal egret]

Is where you have issues cause the way people congregate on the sidelines

[wise yew]

midas literally throws kicks and elbows

[royal egret]

Meanwhile Zeus is just

Punch good

[wise yew]

To be fair he has the ability to analyse moves and you know hydraulic punches hurt

[royal egret]

https://tenor.com/view/real-steel-zeus-gif-8653764855470771028

[wise yew]

Yeah the damage that thing can do is ******* hilarious

But then of course he had to meet someone designed specifically to take a beating

[royal egret]

They didn’t account for if a robot had heart

Smh

[smoky bronze]

its a lame ass future because they dont allow the good battlebots weapons

my robot boxer would have a big spinning drum

[wise yew]

I mean atom is a sparring bot and looking at how his arm is built he doesn't even throw punches that strong

most of the fights this guy won through because he could take the hit or move out of the way

[royal egret]

It’s Mike Tyson punch out with robots

[wise yew]

you're not wrong

atom is funnily enough like little mac

[royal egret]

Yeah I think Little Mac had to be in his design

[finite frigate]

it'd be fucking epic if they ended up making transformers vs godzilla

[royal egret]

https://tenor.com/view/real-steel-robot-boxing-gif-19598904

[finite frigate]

i guess they could make justice league vs godzilla vs kong (since that's a comic that exists right now) but transformers are cooler

[wise yew]

Yeah he compensates his lack of power and small size by being incredibly tough and being faster than everyone else

[royal egret]

Like what is this, Zeus literally has no defense smh

“Adaptable AI” my ass

[smoky bronze]

forgot to make his arms go all the way up rip

[wise yew]

Well to be fair this guy is literally being controlled by a professional boxer right now copying his movements

[royal egret]

Keep your hands up

[wise yew]

shadow boxing go crazy

[royal egret]

The whole system of controlling the robot with preset moves and stuff did seem convoluted

[wise yew]

yeah there are three ways to control your bots in real steel

Voice command remote control and of course shadow boxing

[royal egret]

Rewatching it I forgot they had a ref walk into the ring and count

God it’s also so fucking dangerous looking lol

Like what if Zeus just punches his head into the crowd dear lord

[wise yew]

dude have you seen how Midas is controlled, you put this guy up like a mandated league and he's gonna be throwing body parts everywhere

[simple cloud]

So many messages

Darktide 40K book club most active channel on discord

Incredible feat

[finite frigate]

conclusion: we're all hyped for the upcoming GI Joe cinematic universe

[wise yew]

this is literally what's left of axelrod after it fought Zeus

[royal egret]

I need to rewatch that movie

[safe plover]

all thanks to my lukewarm takes

you're welcome bookclub 🚬

[shy lark]

I have excellent book takes, like skip reading the horus heresy

[tall phoenix]

An excellent take

[tall rover]

sorry but can i ask for the origin of a quote that goes hard but i have no idea where it comes from?

i need help from someone more adept with the books outside of black templar and sororitas ones

"I long for death, not because I seek peace, but because I seek the war eternal"

i typed it into google search to no avail but it fucks hard

probably a long stretch

[tall phoenix]

https://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Ecclesiarchy_Quotes

[tall rover]

oh word

[tall phoenix]

[tall rover]

maybe i should of looked a smidgen harder

[tall phoenix]

lmfao yeah i copy pasted it to search-engine and it was the first result

[tall rover]

what the fuck

[tall phoenix]

[tall rover]

i avoid the wiki like a plague out of instinct

[tall phoenix]

Lexicanum is good

never avoid it

[tall rover]

however that being said..

NO FUCKING WAY

[tall phoenix]

Is that a physical book

or epub?

[tall rover]

yeah on amazon

[tall phoenix]

oof if its physical yeah yeet

[tall rover]

[tall phoenix]

just get an epub

stop trying physical books

[tall rover]

i think maybe my VPN meant that i didnt see that

otherwise i wouldnt of asked

[tall phoenix]

Yeah VPN affects google searches and shows the most unrelated shit usually

[tall rover]

i forgot to turn it off

[tall phoenix]

[tall rover]

thats the last time i use a bulgarian VPN

[tall phoenix]

Im also signed in to bulgaria 💀

need to keep VPN so i can use discord since it got banned here

[tall rover]

what are the fucking odds

[tall phoenix]

LOL yeah

legit dogshit

i gotta turn it off each time i gotta play a game or enter some sites since it fucks with em

[tall rover]

its a grey knights novel too and i know literally nothing about them

[tall phoenix]

lmao just get an epub

stop whining

now!!!

[tall rover]

but i love whining!!!

its my hobby

[tall phoenix]

[tall rover]

i will play the new chaos gate and soon i will be basically chapter master of the grey knights

[tall phoenix]

READ THE EPUB FFS

worse case the codex

[tall rover]

oh hey look

SUBSTANTISALLY less

[tall phoenix]

[tall rover]

holy shit dont doxx me with a face reveal!!

[tall phoenix]

haha grey knight fanboy

🫵

[tall rover]

i may or may not save this

[tall phoenix]

Lmfao feel free

[tall rover]

that being said i would never betray the OG chapter

[tall phoenix]

I too love the loyalist Chapter of Child Rippers

[severe trail]

WE ARE THE HAMMER

[tall rover]

"yeah i love the flesh tearers because they are loyalist!! what???? they kill imperial civilans and disregard human life?? it doesnt matter because they are hecking loyal to the emperor and sanguinius!!!!"

[tall phoenix]

LOL

[tall rover]

i fucking hate the flesh tearers

[tall phoenix]

they are basically loyalist World Eaters

[tall rover]

its not even that, atleast the world eaters had a resembalance of respect before angron and his stupid nails

[tall phoenix]

They are braindead like their fanbase so i guess it works out

[tall rover]

to think what angron would of been withouth the nails...

i wonder, if the emperor teleported angron out of his rebellion without the nails in his brain

would the outcome be the same?

[tall phoenix]

its just so Angron can fall to chaos since the Heresy has to happen

[tall phoenix]

Angron would also still have probably rebelled unless thye used some mental gymnastics like corax.

Rising from literal slaver hellholes but helping an even worse regime because "the ends justify means and we'll fix it"

[tall rover]

angron is the most irredeemable, yet my favourite traitor primarch

[tall phoenix]

hes very funny

https://tenor.com/view/omni-man-invincible-gif-21644488

free child abuse

[tall rover]

atleast he went 100% and wasnt conflicted

i like a character that goes "fuck it!"

[tall phoenix]

He does enjoy collecting skulls its true

[tall rover]

hot take: i love characters/factions that dont give a shit about reason and just go 100% on their beliefs

[tall phoenix]

Its that Jack Horner mindset

https://tenor.com/view/jack-horner-youre-not-gonna-shoot-a-puppy-are-you-jack-yeah-in-the-face-why-ethical-bug-puss-in-boots-perrito-gif-27517479

[tall rover]

thats why i fucking love black templars

[tall phoenix]

[tall rover]

stay tweaking, stay paranoid 24/7

[shy lark]

me

[brittle tapir]

i prefer when my space marines accept being assholes

[shy lark]

As long as it isn't the Lamenters

The best way to make two imperial planets stop feuding is to involve nuclear weapons
Sincerely, Flesh Tearers

[tall rover]

fair enough bro, i love sangunius, not my favourite primarch but he goes hard

[shy lark]

Asshole chapters are just very funny to me, Sanguinious would be very disappointed in them

[severe trail]

Marines Malevolent my GOAT

[shy lark]

The only primarchs I really don't care about is Magnus and Mortarion so I also have a bias

[tall rover]

holy shit same i hate mortarion

magnus is eh

[shy lark]

The holy trifecta of Marines Malevolent, Minotaurs, and Flesh Tearers. Name any chapter better for the Imperium

Sons of Medusa maybe

[severe trail]

Sons of Medusa aren't dicks

they're just traitors

[shy lark]

Much like my hated Alpha Legion, they just strengthen the Imperium

[cerulean peak]

Jack horner was such a great character

[simple cloud]

I’m sure this has been asked before but whatever new year new repetitive question.

What do you all play on tabletop / virtual tt if anything

I dabble in Admech and am slowly building an Imperial Agents force.

[shy lark]

Haven't played in a dozen years, would pick Eldar for the suffering today

[severe trail]

Irl I go to an LGS

For virtual tabletop, tabletop simulator with friends only generally

[simple cloud]

To my shame I considered the stinky elves

[simple cloud]

But what ooormies

I would ask in the minis and armies channel but it’s scary there are strangers

[severe trail]

Admech, CWE(only have 1k points rn), blood angels(I barely play them anymore)

[simple cloud]

C…. Cunts… With… Eyes?

Corded Ware Edgelords?

[severe trail]

Craftworld Eldar

💀

For killteam I have more

But that’s small

[simple cloud]

Ok this is semi irrational and we all knew the teams couldn’t just keep piling up but the rotation thing has put me off KT

I guess Infinity spoiled me with the way in which Corvus Belli tries aggressively to allow you to use your armies for as many editions as possible.

[severe trail]

The rotation is only for comp play

They still get rules updates

And balance changes

But I agree it’s dumb

[simple cloud]

Mostly bc they’re marketing 2 europoors but

Sadly I may be a europoor spiritually

I know I just gave a sense obviously that the stuff that will continue to be balanced etc is the stuff for comp

In no small measure bc there will be a lot more data

[tall phoenix]

Seek aid.

[tall rover]

Do not seek aid you are 1000% correct

[tall phoenix]

Why is homie thinking of genitals with eyes

[tall rover]

You aren’t?!

[tall phoenix]

[tall rover]

https://tenor.com/view/psychopomp-psychopomp-game-venus-tweaking-in-bed-psychopomp-gold-gif-2468091604757215307

Stay tweaking 100%

[tall phoenix]

💉

[tall rover]

You think in 40k naming your kid Horus is like naming your kid Hitler?

[tall phoenix]

yes

not a joke

[drowsy urchin]

oh in 40k, definitely

worse

it's like naming your kid Turbo Hitler 9000

[tall rover]

I mean personally I’d start swinging for a guy named Horus irl

[tall phoenix]

yeah and you two would burn on a pyre together

[tall rover]

I wonder if it’s heresy to name your kid after a primarch

[tall phoenix]

its not

[tall rover]

[tall phoenix]

the problem is it kinda depends

its like naming your kid after some historical figure

it can have uh "implications"

[drowsy urchin]

pretty sure there was a book with a kid from ultramar who was named after Guilliman

[tall phoenix]

yeah Forges of Mars

[drowsy urchin]

ah yes

Been listening to Gaunt's Ghosts after a lengthy pause with other books in between and boy am I enjoying Guns of Tanith. Peak military slop

[tall phoenix]

Gaunt is always good but the main cast is basically action heroes its true 😔

[drowsy urchin]

Bought ALL the Gaunt books last sale. Got like 11 books after this one still

somehow all the military shit just hits right. Very reminiscent of the real stuff I went through (without actual combat of course)

[tall phoenix]

Its mostly due to it just being Sharpe's Rifles

it nails that napoleonic era of archaic fighting mixed with sci-fi shit really well

[drowsy urchin]

the little details are very apt as well. How all the little things work

like how the vox communication always has the characters use their squad numbers as their call signs. i.e. if the squad leader of squad 10 wants to reach Gaunt (one), they'd ask for "1, 10" and Gaunt answers with "10, 1" so they know to whom they are speaking even if they can't tell from the voice distortion of the vox

lots of little things like that

without having to explain any of it

[tall phoenix]

yeah the military aspect of it is really good even with some of the more dated parts compared to modern lore

[sharp flume]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/310041014968778752/1327238414352912404/image.png?ex=67825698&is=67810518&hm=be7cbc8d60ae65f5726c602c615d01c7ea1b63fa6a01262871a6e18828057a95&

ah thank you past me

so good

(dw about the background its a public registrar from a google search)

[tall phoenix]

[sharp flume]

I watched all of last stream but then completely forgot to claim the reward frame on twitch

so i was a bit miffed

[safe plover]

In the citry of Lupercalia a name of poor taste....
in the city of Lupercalia a name that must be changed....
Lupercalia the city whos name is very icky....

they mention it in the book like 5 times even during the horus heresy

im pretty sure if you name your kid horus your entire city would be nuked

[tall rover]

The Darktide edging session commences next week

[sharp flume]

we getting new reading next week?

[safe plover]

reading stories is too easy

i want the kayex8 VA to read 200 litanies of consecration while burning incense at the fatshark servers

[celest heron]

Isnt it just sharpes rifles in space?

[drowsy urchin]

look a couple messages below that one and she says the exact same thing

but yeah, so I've heard before as well. Haven't watched Sharpe's but I believe it

[celest heron]

Ive read a couple of the books

Its some good soldering

[tall phoenix]

Yep it is

[tall phoenix]

Yeah its basically

[celest heron]

Its good soldiering film

[tall phoenix]

• Half the antagonist of most books is asshole officer characters that either hate Tanith or come to respect them

[celest heron]

With ned stark not dying

[tall phoenix]

• Their rivals are always another more asshole regiment

• They always get sent to the worst death zones and come out on top

• They always lose good characters because the cast is so big and war is hell etc

its a pretty good format

[cerulean peak]

Tfw i just found out there's mold in my copy of Legion

That's probably why it was so cheap

[drowsy urchin]

oof

[celest heron]

@safe plover thoughts

[safe plover]

it was cheap because its bad

[safe plover]

ehm ehm.
Remember when you were buying your first warhammer book? and you opened it right as you were about to read it? It was me, Pagliacci. I plastered mold on your book at super speed to make it seem like your book was rotten from the lack of use.

[celest heron]

Spoken like a true legion hater

[royal egret]

You came in the book?

[safe plover]

i came ON the book

[royal egret]

Sounds like a pretty good book

[celest heron]

He was glazing his hatred like a true sith lord

[cerulean peak]

I will read it anyways

[safe plover]

its ok

[cerulean peak]

My book is blessed by the grandfather

[safe plover]

i couldnt make it past chapter 1 anyways

should be safe after that

[cerulean peak]

Mold is in chapter 3

[safe plover]

soak thru

[simple cloud]

Are we talking about GG yes read it is good

Whoever was asking

[simple cloud]

Where did everyone go hellooo

[safe plover]

listening to The Outcast Dead

seems kinda mid ngl

[simple cloud]

It is but idk it’s kind of got a nice vibe

[safe plover]

im still chasing this high tbh

going from the first heretic to the mark of calth was really fun

[simple cloud]

[meanwhile Battle for the Abyss… exists]

[tidal hazel]

First impressions of the Night Lords omnibus, there’s a surprising amount of levity and it characterized the night lords themselves pretty well. Cutting off communications, a bit of shit talking, and even chuckling at a battle brother getting shot set the tone pretty fast. They’re complete assholes

[simple cloud]

This is all ADB right?

[severe trail]

Yeah

[tidal hazel]

Sure is. Apparently one of the better 40k writers from the limited info I’ve heard

[severe trail]

Tbh there’s only a few warhammer authors nowadays I’d call truly bad

Most of them are just really really really middling

[tidal hazel]

Dan Abnett is another name I’ve seen thrown around a bit, how’s his stuff

[severe trail]

Good

[simple cloud]

Yes generally considered second to Abnett or third after Abnett and Wraight

I’m not sure what I think except I agree with everyone and his dog that Abnett is number one.

Wraight and ADB def next dunno order.

Prob ADB second. Better with character complexity.

Best warhammer books I’ve read like everyone else are the inquisitor trilogies + Bequin

And Magos

Bequin for me being top

[tidal hazel]

So far the characters are pretty great. I know the night lords are terrible people but the constant shit talking and dry humor between them is definitely entertaining

[tidal hazel]

I have the eisenhorn omnibus too but haven’t cracked into it much more than the intro yet

These two are my first 40k books but the night lord one caught my interest faster

[simple cloud]

Oh it’s a good choice!!

[tidal hazel]

be me, gunnery deck sergeant on an imperium battleship
get boarded and within 30 minutes my command is dead and both the engines and weapons are offline
my entire sections hull gets blown to bits and exposed to the vacuum of space
somehow escape and join others running down the hall
a pitch black 10 foot tall demigod lifts me off my feet, checks my drip, and asks for directions in a scream so loud it deafens me
panic and shoot him point blank in the face
my own goddamn bullets pings off of him and kills me

Total imperium victory

I know it’s not much compared to noise marines but I love that canonically a viable battle tactic is to burst into a room and RRREEEEEEEE the enemy into submission

[hybrid turtle]

Ive been reading the night lords too and talos is the first space marine ive seen actually use his acid spit in battle lol

[tidal hazel]

Haven’t seen that yet I’m only like 100 pages into the first book

[hybrid turtle]

Yeah its a fair bit later in

[frigid osprey]

they are great ones to start with

[quaint canopy]

Just finished reading Lazarus. Didn't have high expectations but I actually enjoyed. Yes, SMs and of course we know Lazarus will live, but it has decent characters and the relationship between Lazarus and his Chaplain is interesting. Also, some strong Last of Us vibes 😆

[mellow knot]

I had to double take that, one of my non-BL novels is called Lazarus 😄

[quaint canopy]

"Lazarus - Enmity's Edge" to avoid confusion then 😛

[safe plover]

bros............ theres not enough sangui in horus heresy

are there any pre heresy blood angels books?

something happy 😭

[drowsy urchin]

there's plenty in the latter half

[safe plover]

🚬

i wanna see him HAPPY and unbetrayed

[drowsy urchin]

[cerulean peak]

You'll see him dead and broken

[safe plover]

CHAT i hate this guy....

[steel zinc]

first mistake: looking for "happy" in w40k

[safe plover]

i meant happy as in not dead

[steel zinc]

second mistake: looking for "not dead" in w40k

[safe plover]

🚬

[simple cloud]

And you’ll like it

[safe plover]

🚬

its ok just 10 more years im sure GW will bring him back

damn sangui got me chainsmoking

[shy lark]

Mephiston is just a Shadow the Hedgehog version of Sanguinius, it's close enough

[frigid osprey]

same for the MANUS

oh he was such a kickass general

his brothers has great respect for ferrus

everything shown is just foreshadowing his death and we're shown nothing of him at his best

[simple cloud]

Man this one is sadj

He has a novel tho right

[frigid osprey]

yeah but he doesnt even feature in it much lol

its mainly an EC guy

[simple cloud]

Wat

Lmao

[royal egret]

Yeah, it sucks.

I do like the scenes we have with him largely but it’s pretty lame

Like most primarch books, why they don’t just focus on their early life

I don’t get

[frigid osprey]

yer i want to see him commanding armies and kicking absolute ass

[royal egret]

We got black books Ferrus

Has to be good enough

[sick vessel]

I've got a long drive to do later, recommend me a good warhammer book

[simple cloud]

Inquisitor Ian Watson

[sick vessel]

No

[simple cloud]

Draco Ian Watson

I do have an actual weird age of Sigmar rec

This book is actually really really good.

It’s all about chaos cultists

And life in the aos equivalent of the chaos wastes

It’s beautifully written and really dark and compelling.

Strachan’s prose is often magnificent.

[safe plover]

https://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Descent_of_Angels_(Novel)

its horus heresy but has zero pre requisites

[sick vessel]

i've read/listened to the first 10 or so books

[safe plover]

this route?

[sick vessel]

i honeslty don't think that fucking book guide means anything

i read seige of terra first without context and it was pretty good

only parts i thought 'wtf' about were with john grammaticus

[safe plover]

siege of terra is more chronological

[sick vessel]

yeah thats what i read

[safe plover]

the guide goes legion by legion and kinda chronological

[sick vessel]

plus i started reading right before end and death 3 came out and wanted to read that

[safe plover]

so you can either go down or side ways then down

[sick vessel]

so i kinda sped through seige of terra to be ready for the end and the death vol3 to come out

[safe plover]

the first heretic > know no fear > betrayer > mark of calth last story >preptual tho i can recommend if you havent read them

[sick vessel]

just checked, i have read battle for the abyss and not first heretic

battle for the abyss is book 8

first heretic came out afterwards

i kinda think the chronology of the horus heresy between flight of the eisenstien and the seige of terra doesn't matter

[safe plover]

yeah but some stuff picks up directly after

like the last story in mark of calth is a direct continuation to the betrayer B storyline

[tall phoenix]

I always suggest people to start with reading a lexicanum summary of the Siege before reading End and the Death myself

you really arent missing much so its prob the best way to go about it, the Siege can be summed up as "great moments interlaced with bolterslop and people shooting other people from walls" lol

[celest heron]

angron getting sent back to the colliseum where he belongs

with some poor random guardsman as his opponents

[sick vessel]

really? i felt like end and the death had more filler than the rest of it

it easily could have been 2 books

[tall phoenix]

Oh nah it absolutely does

i was talking about the Siege itself lol

[sick vessel]

still tho, its filler thats good enough you don't realize its filler until after its done

at least for me

[tall phoenix]

It makes a lot of sense when you read the afterwords of Book 3 where Abnett literally says his editor Nick Kyme told him "dont worry about the wordcount, write as much as you need"

also yeah if i dont like the part i skimmed it

and didnt really miss much tbh

[simple cloud]

Oh man

[tall phoenix]

YOU DIDNT KNOW?

yeah i was like "Ok that explains everything."

I think the 3 books got some great ideas but holy fuck the BLOAT

[shy lark]

A few months on I don't even remember any of the whatever sidestories, they're just not needed

There was something about some inductii and a guy going yeah they're proper lads now, that's about what I remember

[simple cloud]

I had forgotten I guess bc I’m pretty sure I read the afterward!!

But it sure reads as unedited haha

Which is fine just like

Well the first three Song of Ice and Fire books were way better than Dance which GRRM wrote when he was too big to be edited

[tall phoenix]

"Dont think about wordcount" is such a shitty thing to say as an editor imo

Id understand if this book explored all the culminations of the Siege but it just largely doesnt

[simple cloud]

Yeahhh

[tall phoenix]

Ah well, it had its moments at least lol

[simple cloud]

Yeah a lot of them I thought!!

Saturnine though long was a tighter better book

Bet it was edited

[tall phoenix]

lmfao

[simple cloud]

Book club bros we r letting lore channel absolutely mog us

[severe trail]

You say this like the 2 channels aren’t mostly overlapping users

[simple cloud]

Where is ur pride

Where is ur NATIONAL SPIRIT

[simple cloud]

Yes but I’m the better version of myself on book club

[simple cloud]

Ok best warhammer crime stories go

[tall phoenix]

Vorbis Conspiracy but if i had to pick one amidst the anthology prob Gutter Angels

also honestly all 3-4 stories with Ornthoptera

[severe trail]

Flesh and Steel, Vorbis conspiracy

[tall phoenix]

second one is an anthology, you must pick 1 story

[severe trail]

Fuck

[tall phoenix]

haha owned

[severe trail]

Skin Deep

Is my favorite

[tall phoenix]

Based.

is that the one with the uhhh

loot hidden inside a corpse?

[severe trail]

Yes

[tall phoenix]

dude i loved when the assassin for the rogue trader shows up and goes "lord captain"

I was like

YOO I KNOW WHAT THAT MEANS

lol

[severe trail]

I also really like King of the Spoil

Tbh

[tall phoenix]

I really need to read that one

[severe trail]

Even if it’s very more of the same

[tall phoenix]

i tried Grim Repast and its kinda boring

[severe trail]

King of the spoil shows like

The lowest of the low lol

[tall phoenix]

lmao

[severe trail]

I love actual imperial gutter trash

[tall phoenix]

yeah thats why I loved Gutter Angels

the fucking cartel dudes were literally giving the dubai worker scam to the locals

and the woman was like "they are literally gonna enslave you bruh"

💀

[severe trail]

💀

[tall phoenix]

the ending to that has to be my favorite for any 40k story tho ngl

its such a good reminder of those slop Imperial Good Guy stories

[severe trail]

I need more warhammer crime

Pls GW

[tall phoenix]

God i need more anthologies from Crime

pls GW i cant read novels these days

😭

speaking of

hmmmm

[severe trail]

Good or bad

We will prolly find out

[tall phoenix]

Im leaning on mid

its very hard to fuck up a guard book

[simple cloud]

The cover art kinda fucks

[tawdry crane]

The necroteuch affair (i only read eisenhorn)

[simple cloud]

Midas

Aren’t you dead

[tawdry crane]

Yea no shit

[simple cloud]

like gregor’s other friends

[tawdry crane]

Yes everyone seems to die as the story goes on

[simple cloud]

Tfw u think ur in a discord channel but it’s actually an autoseance & u speak w Eisenhorn’s dead pilot

[tidal hazel]

Septimus is my boy

[tidal hazel]

“The plan had to be carried out with subtlety”

Three lines later-
“Brothers! Everyone in this room is going to die!” Screamed the terminator

“I heard bolter fire”
Absolute gigachad

[hybrid turtle]

the exalted just cant catch a break

[runic root]

I just read that trillogy. Was comcical to read how utterly helpless even a decent squad of astartes is, when going up against a seasoned terminator. One that had melee weapons only mind you. Without Malcharion, half of first claw would have been toast

[tidal hazel]

Just about to finish up the first book

[tidal hazel]

Just now read that part. Following up the the night lord rrreeeeeeee strat was solid

[runic root]

Just wait till you get to talos masterpiece in the last book... Not saying any more, but it is ingenious and glorious.

[surreal vector]

Aight bros I just finished the Night Lords omnibus last night and I have one burning question:

Ending spoilers: ||Are septimus and octavia okay? :C part of me doesn't want to accept the fact that variel killed them||

[tall phoenix]

They're prob dead

these guys are all psychopaths lol

[surreal vector]

[runic root]

Dont know how to spoiler proof so i make it cryptic. It is never explicitly stated that he did you know what to you know who in aquiring you know what. For all we know, He could have stolen the asset quietly, with no resistance or convinced you know who to hand it over willingly. We never will know If and what sort of method/force was used.

[safe plover]

"‘But why have you kept this from father? If any living being could know the key to it, it would be him!’"

horus spoke the one logical thing in the entire heresy. have a problem? GO TO THE FUCKING EMPEROR

corax did it why didnt anyone else?

[tall phoenix]

Because plot.

[safe plover]

😭

[tall phoenix]

hahaha

get owned

also inb4 "well akshually this is all explained in- "

[safe plover]

"hmmm our primarch is dying"
"should we put him in the poop cave or put him in stasis and send him to the emperor?"

[tall phoenix]

gotta trust Eresus

[surreal vector]

mmmmm comfy poop cave

[safe plover]

"i appear to be hearing voices, should i trust them or ask the fucker that made me if theyre normal?"

"i appear to be a psychopath with jagged teeth should i just vibe or ask the emperor to fix me?"

tbh im pretty sure the emperor just sold out 8 primarchs to the chaos gods i think that was the deal

thats my head canon at least

[surreal vector]

No but you see, this is what happens when middle aged men still have teenage angst

https://tenor.com/view/perturabo-warhammer-40k-primarch-perty-gif-12553287796842401602

[safe plover]

🚬 the only way i can see warhammer ending is the emperor pulling "i knew this was all gonna happen this was the only future to beat chaos and collect the 40000 hammers"

i had to become a human god i had no other choice 🤷‍♀️

[surreal vector]

That is implying 40k will have an ending

I doubt gw wants to experience the shitstorm of ending an entire setting again

I guess you could make the argument that 40k entered its "end times" phase with cadia being destroyed and the primarchs coming back

But I doubt there will be an actual ending

[tall phoenix]

Yeah 40k is not ending

the setting will evolve and mutate to adapt to the times when the time comes, thats it.

remember that the lore does not matter, its always minis first and a reason for people to play/have their armies remain relevant

[wise yew]

To be fair the last time they ended a setting everyone reacted so violently that I'm pretty sure that they are not gonna do that anytime soon

[tall phoenix]

Nuking WHF was also pretty necessary

[surreal vector]

Iirc death threats were sent

[tall phoenix]

which people forget

[wise yew]

yeah during that time everyone was forgetting it

[tall phoenix]

To be fair when do 40k fans not send death threats

[tall phoenix]

Also yeah at the end of the longterm it was the correct decision

AOS makes them shit ton of money

[wise yew]

yeah and i'm just gonna say it it is pretty banger

[simple cloud]

Damn it Dilara have some empathy it’s their love language

[tall phoenix]

Never forget Matt Ward

[surreal vector]

Is Ward the one with the scat fetish or am I thinking of another author?

[tall phoenix]

LOL

THATS IAN WATSON

Also he has a plethora of other fetishes

[wise yew]

watch a warhammer fan violently explode as i tell him that Trazyn and the ubersreik 5 are his greatest

[surreal vector]

Yessss

[tall phoenix]

remember

[wise yew]

creations

[tall phoenix]

one of his books is literally titled

"Orgasmo Machine"

love that guy

[simple cloud]

Incredible

[wise yew]

hey he has nothing to hide

[simple cloud]

Inquisitor was the first 40k book I read

[simple cloud]

Where… when

I must know yet I must not know

[tall phoenix]

honestly as much as people meme about "haha gross sex bit" its one of the most wacky-fun novels I read, its very much a time capsule now since its been retconned to oblivion but its such a weird history piece

[simple cloud]

Yeah it’s trippy af

[tall phoenix]

Yeah lol

especialyl as THE first proper 40k literature

[surreal vector]

Ever wondered how space marines defecate? No? Me neither, but still someone wrote a passage about it

[simple cloud]

And it captures the feel somehow

[simple cloud]

I thought everyone thought about this nonstop

[tall phoenix]

Here found it

https://www.reddit.com/r/40kLore/comments/ngn5ht/can_someone_please_give_me_an_excerpt_for_ian/

[simple cloud]

Looks at Calgar

He poopin? He poopin.

[simple cloud]

Jesus Christ that passage is intense

[tall phoenix]

I KNOW RIGHT

[simple cloud]

it’s not even the specific bodily fluids it’s just

Intense

[tall phoenix]

Scat.

[shy lark]

It even features a poop knife

[simple cloud]

Other than the convo w the emperor I recall most clearly from Inquisitor the description of the Slaanesh planet

It all fits in pretty well with Rogue Trader / Realm of Chaos era black and white 40k art

[tall phoenix]

The slaanesh planet having literal buildings fuck each other was peak

[simple cloud]

Yes that would be the part lmao

AoS sanitized it and made it into continents eating each other in Ghur

[tall phoenix]

Lmfao

[simple cloud]

The wokes making everything fake & gay again smdh

[tall phoenix]

next they'll allow non-white characters into my books

this wont do

[safe plover]

i was thinking in 30 years when we move to 50k

[tall phoenix]

20-30 sounds likely

50k tho prob not

[simple cloud]

That will be after the actual ai apocalypse and butlerian jihad

[tall phoenix]

I do also love how people always go

"they cant kill the emperor or destroy terra because the imperium will end"

bitch, this is 40k

this setting is built on excuses

we'll find a loophole

[simple cloud]

Yes

I will be new emperor

[surreal vector]

It took 30 years for the setting to get to 42M

[simple cloud]

Anime art for everyone

[tall phoenix]

Yeah i do miss that old era of 40k

always 1 hour before midnight

it had a vibe about it

[simple cloud]

Yeah!

[tall phoenix]

Yea it was also just kinda foreboding and unsettling

the entire universe was "stuck"

[wise yew]

this people be forgetting that if the authors wanted to with the flick of their hand they can just say that an ork fleet emerge under terra and caught the imperium off guard

[safe plover]

nothing can win too much

every faction has its fans and they wanna keep everyone happy

[tall phoenix]

Uhhh kinda

[simple cloud]

Honestly though a lot of big endeavors die with the founding team’s departure and it’s really impressive GW managed to retain a succession of highly creative people.

[tall phoenix]

Its impossible ot keep everyone happy

[simple cloud]

Who had their own takes

[tall phoenix]

they just do the best narrative outcome

[wise yew]

Alright then what's your explanation for space marines

[tall phoenix]

Its always fun to like read EXTREMELY old forum posts from their "ideas" on what was with 40k at the time

and random fan interviews and shit

[safe plover]

its ok thats why we have sisters

cant have orcs beat space marines let them beat sisters
cant have tau beat marines have them beat sisters

[simple cloud]

See that’s all slaanesh wants

[tall phoenix]

is WWE 💀

[simple cloud]

To give reality a big enema

[safe plover]

sisters treated like an average woman in the uk 😭

[simple cloud]

is that so bad

[tall phoenix]

yeah uh

if you think sororitas are bad now

you werent there pre 8th edition

that was some proper abuse and flinging under the bus, their treatment as a faction was insane

[simple cloud]

Man where are the Abnett / ADB level sororitas books I ask again

[safe plover]

wasnt their first codex shared with another faction?

[simple cloud]

Plz gw there’s so much to draw on

Early Christian / middle age nuns were wild

[tall phoenix]

No their first codex was standalone

they got shafted years and years afterwards

it was very bad

[simple cloud]

Their diaries and letters are amazing

[tall phoenix]

Half of it is unhinged or them just being horny

[simple cloud]

so much pent up… everything. Or rather everything directed to Christ

[tall phoenix]

its so funny

[simple cloud]

Yes

[tall phoenix]

YEP

i love the like

"WHY AM I ATTRACTED TO SOMEONE? IT MUST BE THE DEVIL"

bro stop coping

😭

I love christian mythos in general, unruly housewives being horny? Nah dude it was some hot daemon babe/gigachad bothering them in their sleep

[safe plover]

🚬 if it works it works

anything that gets the gears of war churning

[simple cloud]

I literally want a sororitas novel that is just the politics of the… whatever they call their groups

[tall phoenix]

Orders

[safe plover]

i want a sisters of silence novel NOW

[tall phoenix]

best you can get is Vaults of Terra

its pretty good

[simple cloud]

Well and Bequin 4 that pariah flavor

[shy lark]

You're getting custodes and you'll like it

[safe plover]

🚬 i want something from before point of initiation

then it moves on after she takes her vowes to her inner voice

[simple cloud]

The hammer and bolter sisters episode was ok

[safe plover]

not doing bequin until they finish the series 🚬

[simple cloud]

Though it was kind of chatgpt write a sisters short

[safe plover]

dan abnett got me chainsmoking again 😭

[tall phoenix]

yeah uh bad news

Arbitrator Ian's gf made an interview with Abnett last year

and he said hes doing a non-40k thing as a "palette cleanser"

[simple cloud]

Oh no

[tall phoenix]

so lmao

[safe plover]

yeah i know itll take a while

[tall phoenix]

better get used to waiting

[simple cloud]

No Dan back in your cell

Damn it fan

Dan

[shy lark]

I wish there was more variety to the sister orders, that would be nice

[safe plover]

bequin is the only thing touching on constantin valdor and the city of dust right now

[simple cloud]

Give me Bequin I need her Dan

[safe plover]

i dont think they wanna reveal it so soon

[simple cloud]

Yeah

[shy lark]

Overpriced Sanguinius model on the full reveal 100%

[simple cloud]

City of dust is what I call my pile of abandoned tabletop projects

[mellow knot]

I loved writing WHF, I miss it enormously.

[royal egret]

You might get a chance to do it again

[wise yew]

yeah they are activating the dig the grave protocol

[drowsy urchin]

NOO this doesn't have an audio release

[tall phoenix]

haha owned

[drowsy urchin]

well it's just the short story collection, hopefully the omnibus and it's contents will be on audio as well

no wait

it has two novels

Okay they are the Fire Caste and Cult of the Spiral Dawn so I can manage this

[tall phoenix]

Damn that sucks lmao

but yeah i guess can make-do

[drowsy urchin]

Finished Fire Caste last month and hoping for an audio release for the Cult book soon

[random marlin]

What did you think of Fire Caste?

[drowsy urchin]

Very good

Latter half especially

had some trouble remembering which character was which

[random marlin]

If I remember it right, but I'm not sure anymore if it was in an interview or during our echanges, Fehervari wrote the novel in a "fever-dream" state and also wanted each character, no matter their importance to the story, to have their specific voice. That's something I really liked, as it reminded me of Game of Thrones with multiples PoV characters from opposing sides and being sometimes surprised by the way some characters were brutally killed off.

My favorite character was probably ||Audie Joyce, who wasn't supposed to survive that long when Peter started writing the novel, but found he was an interesting character to say something about religious fanaticism and that's how Audie ended surviving up to the endgame, while a lot of other characters who looked more important at first died before him.||

I also liked the sniper who gets ||knocked down almost at the beginning of the story, is dragged all the way by his comrades and ends up waking up for the final fight, does one critical shot and is then instantly killed.||

By the way, who do you think was (the most) right in the end? That's another thing I enjoyed, how the reader has to form his own opinion about it, as Fehervari doesn't just tell us "this side was right".

[tidal hazel]

Funny enough the khan and his white scars (aka the fast as fuck bois) were the only ones to pull a “let’s wait and see. We’ll make a choice when we have more info”

[royal egret]

Well basically everyone else had the issue of almost immediately being embroiled in the war

The Heresy was engineered so anyone they didn’t think they could turn was busy, or separated and attacked.

Khans wasn’t because Horus thought he could turn him.

[deft bramble]

was reading Da Big Dakka, and saw the ||black-blue/white-yellow color meme||, i dont know if i like the author anymore

[tall phoenix]

remind me, what was that again

[deft bramble]

when ||Snaggy (or Snuggy) started talking to grots, and 2 of them were fighting cause one thought that the sky around the city was white-yellow, and the other was telling that it was black-blue||

[tall phoenix]

Uhhh I dont know that meme, i thought it was just a comedic bit

[deft bramble]

nah, it is an actual meme and it went viral lots of year ago

[tall phoenix]

Wait, do you mean that blue dress thing

[deft bramble]

super dumb

yes

[tall phoenix]

Oh god

ah well could be worse

[deft bramble]

https://fixupx.com/ThePianoFreak/status/1875732533616504971

seen this recently

i still dont understand how the fuck someone would think that its yellow-white

[shy lark]

Their dang brain broken

[tall phoenix]

the person that made this tweet is such a cunt too

[deft bramble]

lmao, didnt know

[tall phoenix]

You can look at the replies

its literally just a obnoxious trollpost

[deft bramble]

aw hell naw im not opening twitter for it, this link is a meme i took from a meme channel from another server

[tall phoenix]

Lmao but yeah she posted that shit to create an argument since its a meme of the colorblind dress thing from awhile ago

[drowsy urchin]

I too liked those two characters for what they had going on.

But I didn't really think of anyone being in the 'right' in the end. Holt was ||a man at the very edge of sanity barely making a sense of things and probably tainted. Both forces there were just pushing meat through the grinder and both not for too dissimilar reasons. ||

[drowsy urchin]

||Trinity and the mystery around it was interesting and how you had to put one to one together to realize what happened by the end was pretty great||

[random marlin]

I probably should have said "less wrong" then. 😉 When thinking about it, I ended up finding that ||the Sky Marshall's choice (the one who made a pact with the Tau to keep the state of war to a minimum level) was kind of like the trolley problem: he could either have a few regiments being sent to Phaedra or having a full-on war against the Tau with millions of lives lost. He tried to reduce the pain and suffering in the only way he could.||

[random marlin]

Yeah, took me some time to crack that one! I was kind of annoyed with the ending being ||so nihilistic until I realized the "loop" the Arkan Confederates are stuck on||. It was nice reading a BL novel and having to actually think about it to get what happened, for once.

By the way, if you read Requiem Infernal, did you notice which character was present in both novels? Well, there's at least one I'm thinking of.

And did you read Vanguard just after Fire Caste? Loved the twist when I realized, well, the "link" existing between both stories.

[drowsy urchin]

I've only listened through Fire Caste, I'll probably do Requiem next

[drowsy urchin]

Sky Marshal he was called

The twist ||to have the Tau shoot him and finally Holt was a bit weird though. Why have him to get there and try and kill the Sky Marshall as the Tau planned but then just to resort to killing him yourself when Holt started to hesitate||

Maybe I missed something in his rhetoric

[random marlin]

From what I remember, the Tau needed ||a scapegoat to explain that he wasn't responsible for the Sky Marshall's death. As Holt hesitated (something rare with a commissar!), he ended up doing it himself, using Holt's weapon iirc?|| I'm not sure, I guess I have no other choice but to read it again. 😅

[drowsy urchin]

Ah yeah

[static star]

Why do people dislike the Minka Lesk series of books so much and don't even acknowledge the character existing (the wiki's)

[severe trail]

https://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Arminka_Lesk

she is literally on Lexicanum wdym

As for the series I haven't found any people who've read it and dislike it aside from the first book which is Cadia Stands

where it has Pask(in a baneblade???) die on Cadia????

which makes no sense since Pask wasn't on Cadia and he'd never be caught dead in a baneblade

[static star]

lexicanum is kind of an ugh one. Oh

[severe trail]

Its literally more accurate then Fandom

Fandoms thing is that it often just

copy and pastes stuff straight from the Codexes and rulebooks or has blatently innaccurate or made up info

[static star]

or is selective of what they put

[severe trail]

also it uses fanart

which while cool is often innacurate

I.E

[tidal hazel]

Yeah, tyberos is way taller than that

[severe trail]

I hope you stub your toe

[royal egret]

There’s a reason he has to use modified Knight armor

[tidal hazel]

Yeah I heard it took the top guys on mars like 5 years to extend and widen the plating

[royal egret]

Yeah it’s hard for the Carcharadons to source Warhound Titan armor but they make do.

[tidal hazel]

Something something red tithe something something new knights

be hound
draw shotgun on a night lord
tell him you ate a crag cougar
refuse to elaborate

Best night lord trilogy side character

[hybrid turtle]

Love that little guy

[celest heron]

Every time someone underestimates tyberos'size, he grows another meter

What does that size make him rn, like 16 ftish

[tall phoenix]

Hes like 1ft above

[celest heron]

I know I meant the fanart

[tall phoenix]

its just people sucking his cock because Height = Badass

idk break out the ruler

📏

[celest heron]

I think the misunderstanding of hisnsize is also the fact that people do not realize that tactical dreadnought armor is terminator armor.....

[tall phoenix]

Its just wank

like i said the bigger he is the more cooler in their eyes which is comic book teenager shit

[shy lark]

It's prime cool logic, that's why primarchs are so cool

[drowsy urchin]

that's why yo mama's so cool

[deft bramble]

finished Da Big Dakka

https://tenor.com/view/me-atrapaste-es-cine-its-cinema-cinema-esto-es-cine-gif-12869046600151364058

[tall phoenix]

[deft bramble]

not gonna lie, ||Dakka happened to be really Big||

[tall phoenix]

Lmao yeah

I still personally prefer Kunning

this was a bit mid for me

[deft bramble]

both are fine and fun

[tall phoenix]

Hmmm

iffy

[wise yew]

ya read warboss?

[deft bramble]

mostly i hate some ways the writer can explain something sometimes

like, "orks do stuff - because its fun, not because this or that, or this or these - and..."

i hate this writer move

[deft bramble]

ive red only brutal kunnin and da big dakka so far

if we're talking about orks

[hybrid turtle]

ah well in warboss snaggi gets introduced

its pretty much the same shenanigans for him in that book compared to da big dakka

[wise yew]

yeah it's weirdly connected like this

warboss is far away but one of its characters is important and ended up in big dakka which is snaggi

[deft bramble]

ok

[wise yew]

well as important as a a grot anyway

[hybrid turtle]

ufthawk shows up for like 2 seconds in warboss just for snaggi to join him

[deft bramble]

ill continue 2nd book about eisenhorn

[hybrid turtle]

still a decent book though

[lethal valley]

Apparently I listened to 1000 hours of warhammer last year.. oops

[tall phoenix]

It happens

[drowsy urchin]

🫡

[tall phoenix]

[drowsy urchin]

thank you Jonathan

[shy lark]

My main man J Keebs

[severe trail]

Goat

[shy lark]

Only 22 titles, most of which weren't even warhams. Shame on me for branching out and not enough

[safe plover]

keeble...

i still cant get over how he plays girls/women/daemons

man can do 30 voices but only one voice for women

[tall phoenix]

Yeah when male VAs in these audiobooks do female voices it always makes me laugh

i appreciate the effort i guess lol

[simple cloud]

Keeble’s in particular are so bad lol but we love him still

[tall phoenix]

Yeah i ignore it every time it just makes me chuckle lol

its not comedically bad but could be worse

[simple cloud]

It sounds like a guy imitating his annoying ex

[leaden acorn]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-tf-dumb-gif-24165875

[safe plover]

https://tenor.com/view/mmmmm-natalie-portman-miles-standish-thc-president-south-park-gif-23109458

it sounds like this to me

[runic root]

A little off topic but i was told the best way to start into Warhammer fantasy was the gotrek and Felix novels. Which one was the first one again? Or do they come in omnibus form?

[drowsy urchin]

Trollslayer is the first one, there are omnibuses as well but they might be hard to come by

[runic root]

Thx

[simple cloud]

Yah I’d go from beginning

[runic root]

Vol. 10 of the horus heresy is kinda mid. Tales of heresy. Only good part about this antholgy book within the series is the last church ....

[tall phoenix]

Correct take

(last church is also iffy but could be worse)

[deft bramble]

wdym volume "10"?

[tall phoenix]

theres 55+ books

[severe trail]

[tall phoenix]

r/atheist NOOOO

[runic root]

This is book 10 out of the entire series

[simple cloud]

Last church great premise terrible execution in the middle bit

Good ending

[tall phoenix]

Yeah that is the most universal opinion i think

most people i remember loving it on release before they started to realise it kinda goes to show how stupidly brickheaded the Emperor was written

[simple cloud]

Yeah so bad middle school atheist logic

And what’s his face not exactly defending faith w his a game either

But the setting and premise are so cool