#40k-book-club

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tall phoenix
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They gotta drive themselves bankrupt somehow

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wait nvm FW is dead šŸ’€

cerulean peak
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Fw made a few nice things

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Love the big doom croissant

celest heron
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The emperor is the good guy and the interex were filthy xenos that needed to be purged

cerulean peak
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That's not what Horus thought

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Until Erebus fucked things up ofc

celest heron
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Horus was a bitch

cerulean peak
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He still is

celest heron
cerulean peak
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It's true that my end and the death copy is under 6 feet of horus heresy books

celest heron
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Anyway erebus stole the poop knife

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And therefore he is shit

cerulean peak
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Can't argue with that

celest heron
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You are what you steal

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And I am šŸ‘–

safe plover
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just say no to chaos

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its that fucking easy

celest heron
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So he is a shitty bitch

tall phoenix
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STOP CALLING IT THE POOP KNIFE

celest heron
tall phoenix
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Yes

safe plover
tall phoenix
safe plover
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all they had to do was put horus in stasis and send him to the emperor

celest heron
safe plover
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the emperor would have looked at him did a naruto hand seal and cleansed him of chaos

celest heron
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Cuz he got stabbed

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with the poop knife

safe plover
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or idk maybe liquidated 3 blanks and fed them to horus

tall phoenix
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read that as "liquidated 3 banks"

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which ngl also in character

safe plover
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lmao

celest heron
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Was gonna say

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Both work

tall phoenix
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he literally blew up a planet for an attempted assassination attempt on it

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so its not too far off

safe plover
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AYO

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SPOILER

tall phoenix
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wow people die in warhammer and planet explodes

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big spoiler

safe plover
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😠

shy lark
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Enema knife šŸ¤”

tall phoenix
cerulean peak
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To be fair, the anathame does look like a turd

safe plover
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now i have to skip this book i fucking hate

cerulean peak
safe plover
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wow thanks

tall phoenix
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LMAO

celest heron
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The enema

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Aka the poop knife

safe plover
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speaking of poop knives and septic tanks

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which book has mortie turning to chaos

tall phoenix
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Buried Dagger

cerulean peak
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Buried dagger

tall phoenix
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or should I say

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the Buried Poop Dagger

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its also the "last" HH novel

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since it moves to Siege

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fucking marketing gimmick dumbasses lol

safe plover
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smh itll be a while

celest heron
shy lark
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The primarchs are such wusses, as per Titus you just have to say no

celest heron
safe plover
celest heron
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I mean manbat cannibal

cerulean peak
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Your body, your choice

safe plover
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just say no

safe plover
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chaos is like vampires (at least for primarchs) gotta be invited in

shy lark
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Dorn just said no, it worked for him

cerulean peak
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Morty said yes to ease his son's pain

shy lark
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Morty's a lil b with a lil p

safe plover
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morty folded under no pressure same for angron

tall phoenix
celest heron
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I mean pain glove

cerulean peak
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How can you know; you haven't read the 54th book of the Horus Heresy (tm)

celest heron
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And the tramp stamp

safe plover
tall phoenix
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STOP

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TALKING ABOUT SCAT

safe plover
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i must meditate on this bring forth the poop glove

cerulean peak
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If GRRM can, so can we

safe plover
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the fucking glove of self harm

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daddy left to buy cigs better cut myself

celest heron
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And his sons collect it and sign it like a soccer ball

safe plover
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what the fuck is happening with dorn and his legion

celest heron
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Idk I think siggismund was the only normal one

shy lark
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Lets pretend nothing is happening

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No tramp stamps or anything

celest heron
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No codex astartes appendix made by brother rhetoricus.

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Anyway do you think thats why the fists stay hidden within their walls, for fear of what they created

cerulean peak
celest heron
safe plover
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peter and dorn in the autismoff

celest heron
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100000 imperial fists fighting in the iron cage

shy lark
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100000 fists at ram ranch

celest heron
shy lark
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The primarch pseudo incest is surely just on tumblr

celest heron
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its a shame that shitpost was made by a pedo brony

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Anyway which legion was the most normal?

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The khan?

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Like the ultramarines had girlyman, magnus had people being turned into sheep, the dark angels had redacted, the fists, the wolves were turning into jacob, the blood angels, petty rabble is cutting his entire legion in half and putting olympia back together with flex seal.

safe plover
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they just help out randomly

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dark angels are pretty normal imo

shy lark
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Normal in a behavioral sense?

celest heron
safe plover
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prolly ultra marines or dark angels and some for their uhhh whats the word

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foundling chapters?

shy lark
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Probably a tossup between Ultramarines, Luna Wolves, Salamanders or just maybe Dark Angels

celest heron
safe plover
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then yeah just ultra marines or dark angels

celest heron
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If we add in chapters... ultramarines has the cannibals

shy lark
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I haven't read many HH books though because I don't care

safe plover
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salamanders were very suicidal until they found vulkan he was the last to be found so they kept trying to prove themselves primarchless

celest heron
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I think the mortifactors were second fpunding

shy lark
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Yes afaik

celest heron
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Luna wolves got too involved with their frats

shy lark
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Going around calling the Emperor the Ultimate Warrior like it's some wrestling title

celest heron
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Their hazing got a bit far.....

shy lark
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Frat bros are fairly normal

celest heron
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Probably ends up being dark angels or ultramarines then

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Dark angels are probably the better ones because they were trusted to do redacted

shy lark
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Could have been the Iron Hands if Ferrus didn't lose his head

celest heron
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Oh yeah ferrusful hands were normal

royal egret
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They weren’t really

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They were still a super brutal legion which did scorched earth tactics, and the augmetic thing was very prevalent still back then.

shy lark
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World Eaters pre Angron seems to have been brutal but fairly sensible, I lean towards UM or Salamanders

royal egret
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Ferrus also didn’t plan on purging the augmetics focus until after the GC was done and they didn’t need to be more effective anymore.

Which even if he survived would never have happened

tall phoenix
celest heron
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Ive still only read the grey knights omnibus because I am too busy reading random other novels

tall phoenix
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to be fair thats one of the good ones

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lots of good homoerotic moments as well for female readers like me

shy lark
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I thought that was what aos was for

tall phoenix
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to be fair both got gay moments

celest heron
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staregryn or the gay relationship between alaric and the khorne chaos champion in the third

tall phoenix
shy lark
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Waste of time innit

simple cloud
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I’m literally serious the little snatches of interpersonal relationships we get from the more talented authors are so good.

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Drusher and Macks in The Magos personal fave.

safe plover
simple cloud
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WARHAMMER ROMANCE DAMN IT

shy lark
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Only if it ends poorly

simple cloud
simple cloud
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It is 40K

shy lark
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I only want to put down the readerxprimarch shippers thinking about it. Make the story an allegory about that

shy lark
tall phoenix
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Yeah this is very much true.

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40k has a slop of every variety

simple cloud
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Ok yes but it’s tasty slop sigsen

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IT’S TASTY SLOP

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George Eliot only wrote seven books

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What am I supposed to read after that

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WARHAMMER

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Obv

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With a little Milton on the side.

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The Western canon

shy lark
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Some of it is good slop

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Most not so much imho

simple cloud
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Really I consider Paradise Lost a sort of rough draft of the Horus Heresy. Milton could have tried harder how many times does Samus appear w his catchphrase?

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No times.

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None.

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Heresy >>>> PL

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The Iliad? Basically 0 busty women in bodygloves. Trash.

celest heron
celest heron
simple cloud
celest heron
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Thought that was morte d'arthur

simple cloud
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Les Primarches rather hon hon hon šŸ„–

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Lorgar: Papa, tu es dieu?!
Papa: bof

shy lark
simple cloud
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Omg

safe plover
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what do you guys recommend from below the black line

deft bramble
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is also good

tall phoenix
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LMAO

safe plover
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my monitor 2 smol 😭

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can i post the heresy order pdf here?

royal egret
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Master of Mankind

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Just read that

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I can’t make out any of the others

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Unremembered Empire> Pharos>Ruinstorm is a pretty major arc too

safe plover
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what about the path of heaven and the crimson king

royal egret
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Also very good options

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Did you read Know No Fear and Betrayer?

safe plover
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ye they were very good

drowsy urchin
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Did you read Angel Exterminatus?

safe plover
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"read"

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listened to but yeah

drowsy urchin
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listen is weird to say

safe plover
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it was good

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fuck fulgrim tho

drowsy urchin
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I too listen everything but it doesn't have the right ring to it

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But I'd say every mainline novel besides Deathfire and Old Earth are worth the time below that line

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The Crimson King had a subpar narrator though

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anthalogies you can skip

safe plover
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out of all of them so far

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i can remember 1 short story

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and loosely the events of another

safe plover
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OHH WAIT

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the garro stuff was good

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but its closer to a real novel than an anthology

mellow knot
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Happy New Year, one and all!

tall phoenix
random marlin
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Happy new year everyone thumbsup_ogryn

tall phoenix
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šŸ™ Hmmm beer....

safe plover
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happy new year

wise yew
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Happy new year

royal egret
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Source?

unborn merlin
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Happy New Year nerds.

umbral hinge
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Got:
Eisenhorn Omnibus by Dan Abnett

Night Lords Omnibus by Aaron-Dembski Bowden

Lords of Silence by Xhris Wraight

The Infinite and the Divine by Robert Rath

These are my first 40k books, am in for a good ride? I'm halfway through 'Xenos' & also started 'Soul Hunter'

drowsy urchin
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all good picks

orchid herald
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if you can get kingsmaker by robert rath and I sandy mitchell's cain omnibus (their 3)

simple cloud
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Yes excellent.

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You were advised well.

umbral hinge
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Thanks guys, loving it so far!!

Apart from Darktide I'm also playing Space Marine 2 & Rogue Trader. Rogue Trader is so great at introducing 40k. It's helped me understand bits of the worldbuilding the books mention! (i.e. what a Navigator does, the Navis Nobilite, etc.!)

tall phoenix
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Rogue Trader is PEAK for wider universe exploration as a game thumbsup_ogryn

molten temple
simple cloud
simple cloud
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@umbral hinge the real question is when are you going to buy your first tabletop army. And your second. And your third.

leaden acorn
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Owlcat is good at world building, its just a lot of reading

deft bramble
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started reading Eisenhorn and loving it so far, such a chill read

tall phoenix
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its a super moodpiece and cozy

simple cloud
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Yes welcome

simple cloud
brittle tapir
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i dont find it cozy

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so much action

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i guess the parts where he returns to his home base to talk for 3 chapters is cozy

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but even then there's always a layer of gross in 40k that makes everything feel dangerous

safe plover
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"what are you gonna do? stab me?" ~stabbed man

brittle tapir
# safe plover

"stabbing me is all part of my plan"
-man about to die of severe blood loss from getting stabbed

simple cloud
leaden acorn
simple cloud
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Will you have a delicious slice or will you have a delicious slice and then contribute to the traditional pile of human excrement on the stairs leading to the uptown 1 train

leaden acorn
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Me ordering pizza on nye

lavish rune
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Finished Requiem Infernal a little bit ago. I should get more Fehervari

safe plover
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i am struggling with the crimson king

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i have no idea what the fuck is happening most of the time

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i fell asleep on ONE chapter

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now its a mess

hearty niche
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That’s how I feel with the Eisenhorn series. 🄱😪😪

tall phoenix
safe plover
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I lost focus for a bit

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and theyre redoing lines from burning of Prospero

random marlin
lavish rune
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I think I'll be grabbing The Reverie next and then the Twice Dead King series. The latter has been on my TBR forever.

blissful heart
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Wanting to start reading the novels.

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What's the first one chronologically.

tall phoenix
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There is no chronological order

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you pick a novel and read it, this is a galaxy spanning setting

deft bramble
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short version: doesnt matter lol read what you like and be happy

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and a bunch of books you might start with

tall phoenix
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šŸ‘†

blissful heart
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I heard horus rising is a good place to start.

hybrid turtle
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People def recommend against starting with the horus heresy

tall phoenix
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^

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you will be extremely confused

wise yew
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yeah it's basically set in it's own era that largely doesn't affect the main setting much besides history

hybrid turtle
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Not only bc its a different setting compared to 40k but also bc the whole series is long and changing in quality per book

deft bramble
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maybe watching Leutin's videos is a better idea for learning about the story chronologically

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at first, at least

drowsy urchin
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A coworker watched a few lore videos, mostly the chronological lore of all of 40k and then started with the heresy as his first books. It has been enjoyable to follow his experience that way

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don't think it's the worst possible thing to do

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It's pretty wild when someone who doesn't even know all the legions or whom go traitor goes through the books

quaint canopy
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Can anyone recommend good books about/with tyranids?

drowsy urchin
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devastation of baal

safe plover
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it made it smoother but still

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some books you're gonna have to memorize a short discription of each major char KEKW_ogryn

simple cloud
tall phoenix
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  • Blood Harvest
  • Devilhunter
  • The Convocation
  • The Devouring Void
  • The Long and Hungry Road
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While not books persay these are a collection of 4-5 short stories showing in a simple format whats it actually like to fight against Nids/What they kinda do

shy lark
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Read Dante and then Devastation of Baal šŸ™‚

tall phoenix
quaint canopy
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Appreciate the recommendations, cheers šŸ™‚

frigid osprey
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the long and hungry road is a good one, its only a short story, but it's by adrian tchaikovsky

tall phoenix
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Yeee all the ones i listed are Shorts but its prob the best format you can get to explore nids as a faction.

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especially with no other faction largely attached to them with Nids just taking the backseat position

safe plover
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last chapter of the crimson king

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i still dont know whats happening but i feel bad for magnus 😭

tall phoenix
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Hes just a misunderstood gayboy

drowsy urchin
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Finished Fire Caste today, cinema

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really hope they'll release the rest of the dark coil in audio soon

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which I really suspect is happening when the book is called "The Dark Coil: Fire Caste" when the narrator names it, not just Fire Caste

simple cloud
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Anyone read the Arhi… Ahri… airy-man books?

simple cloud
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No love for the 1000 sons

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that’s fine I don’t love them either

shy lark
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'ate magnus 'ate arryman 'ate the thousand sons nuff said

shy lark
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'ate russ too

tall phoenix
simple cloud
shy lark
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Space Wolves come across like the swearwolves from what we do in the shadows

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at best

simple cloud
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Space Wolves come across yo mama got im

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Ok but for real have u read prospero burns

drowsy urchin
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It's the best SW book

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Only book where I enjoyed reading/listening about them

shy lark
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I've not because I don't care about the HH books

simple cloud
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I respect that it’s wrong

safe plover
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magnus redemption arc i believe

shy lark
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Grown ass man just had to sit down and do nothing and now his boytoys are condemned to eternal service to chess satan

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Smgdh

safe plover
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man

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listening to Jonathan Keeble is so funny

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he makes daemons sound exactly like he makes little girls sound

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this is literally how he makes daemons sound

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"TELL ME WHERE THE SHARD IS DAEMON"
" no :333"

simple cloud
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No better

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Make him an American

safe plover
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mmmm no :3

simple cloud
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😔

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I do love his hilariously terrible American accents for eg John G

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I like to think he could do a perfect one but is making fun of us

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British prob subtly making fun of us 90% of the time but jokes on them we autistically don’t get it and are just happy they’re so nice

safe plover
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nah thats not true

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british people speak normally when no one else is around

glass lintel
# simple cloud I do love his hilariously terrible American accents for eg John G

Not a HH fan and I hate all of the destiny stuff that's all throughout it, but having all these Latin/Roman/British/Slavic/"Is that racistly Asian?" accents have been built-up to the point that I don't second-guess them.

Having someone walk into a scene going "Now hang-on just a cotton-pickin' minute heeyah, Mistah Hooris. Ah reckon yet up-tah some sorta Harass-y" is fucking hilarious.

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I'm a touch upset at the lack of more recognizably Asian/Hispanic/Black/etc voices not only in the audiobooks, but also in Darktide ("Which flavor of White UK resident do you want for 18/21 voice options?") . . . but I'd be sorely tempted at the opportunity to have the next class have at least one hilariously out of place Yankee accent.

tall phoenix
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Darktide has a few different non-native english VAs so it works well enough, the thing is 40k VAs in most media have almost always been british

simple cloud
simple cloud
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As a distinctly nonwhite person I can say I couldn’t really give less of a fuck about being ā€œrepresentedā€ in that way and that’s a pretty common sentiment outside of the sort of liberal arts college student crowd.

severe trail
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I’m going to be honest I’d rather them not personally as a Chinese person regarding like accents

simple cloud
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I do like that skin tones and features etc can be changed

severe trail
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Because what level of accenting lol

simple cloud
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But I don’t care that much about that either tbh

severe trail
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Are they going to pick someone who’s fluent in English, because in that case the accents not going to sound what people would expect to be ā€œAsianā€ lol

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I just find it hilarious whenever audiobook authors go into that accent for the white scars

simple cloud
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lmao having a scars book read by some fobby Chinese/Mongolian grandpa would be hilarious.

severe trail
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I agree LOL

simple cloud
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Narrator commentary: ā€œwhy my son read this? Should be reading math homework.ā€

simple cloud
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I can’t decide whether it’s so bad it’s good or so bad it’s bad.

tall phoenix
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also people having racist flippant moments from it is about as great

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never forget Avenging Son

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for example as a muslim person I absolutely hate Tallarn because they are literally based on white british extras from Lawrence of Arabia lol

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(also one book i read had them as suicide bombers against tau which is LOL)

simple cloud
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To Tallarn etc

tall phoenix
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they invaded enough, get out of my head aaaa

shy lark
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Suffer the British

severe trail
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Average cultist

tall phoenix
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I already do being a 40k fan you fucker-

simple cloud
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The cool thing w 40K and skin tone etc is that 10,000 years is way way more than enough for skin color to evolve twenty different ways

tall phoenix
severe trail
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Up to you to decide if they’re imperial or chaos

tall phoenix
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with a fandom this racist its probably best not to lol

glass lintel
tall phoenix
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stick to mutations as the allegory for it

severe trail
simple cloud
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The Brits are so good at conquering but let’s be honest Islamic nations are a close second.

tall phoenix
severe trail
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Put the voidborn lynching in a real popular book

simple cloud
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We Sikhs tried but suck

tall phoenix
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We are too busy blowing up each other

severe trail
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Do it in the next Cain book

simple cloud
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Terrible conquering skills

severe trail
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Looks inside

simple cloud
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Got absolutely wiped by the Mughals

severe trail
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killed mostly Muslims

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What did Timur the Lame mean by this

tall phoenix
simple cloud
severe trail
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Sorry wrong Muslim warlord

shy lark
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Smgdh at coloured people pushing us whites out of 40k with marginal representation šŸ˜”

severe trail
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Tamar was a different dude

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Who was lamer

tall phoenix
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like people getting mad at black characters on 40k book covers is fucking nuts

tall phoenix
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people also hating on Gadriel/Acheron for like

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being asian or black šŸ’€

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bruh RELAX

shy lark
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It's genuinely funny to me

severe trail
tall phoenix
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its so insane

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like at least maybe try to hide your racism

severe trail
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Space marine 2 woke

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1984 GW

tall phoenix
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dude we had a guy here say "saved by the sarge" is woke because it implies a woman saved you? What

severe trail
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More buzzwords

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Ig

tall phoenix
simple cloud
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Ask an east or South Asian to hide his racism???

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Impossibru

severe trail
simple cloud
severe trail
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Half my family is Japanese

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The other half is Han Chinese

simple cloud
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Oh my god

severe trail
simple cloud
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Oh. My god.

severe trail
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Glory be to my grandparents racism

shy lark
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It's just an old folk thing to be virulently racist

severe trail
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For it is directed at me(sometimes)

simple cloud
severe trail
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Casual racism is very common in East and Southeast Asia

shy lark
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I knew a Taiwanese who was 25% Japanese and the family drama was off the charts

simple cloud
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No old Asian people are like 50 times more racist than old white people

severe trail
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See: Japan, China, Taiwan

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Also Korea

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But I don’t have personal expierence

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So I can’t comment on Korea beyond it looks the same

simple cloud
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Def Korea source had Korean roommates for 9 years total, dated Korean girl

brittle tapir
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east asians casually practising eugenics despite having some of the least diverse genetic makeup in the world

shy lark
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Old Nordic folk are just about non-stop casual racist in my experience. Further south than France or east of Germany you're in oogaboogaland

simple cloud
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Damn Koreans even got racist against Koreans and now their birth rate is like 0.2 per person

severe trail
tall phoenix
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Allowing women to sit down on trains????

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Nah

severe trail
tall phoenix
simple cloud
shy lark
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South Korea is doing ranked misogyny it's wild

severe trail
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Taiwan is the best country of the 4 because Taiwanese parliament get into fist fights

brittle tapir
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east asians have the cutest twinks

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i can say from experience

severe trail
simple cloud
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No homo but I woulda dropped my panties for some of my Korean bros

tall phoenix
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Im a girl but same no homo

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āœ‹

shy lark
tall phoenix
simple cloud
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O no

severe trail
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American racism is like

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Low tier

simple cloud
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Amateurs

severe trail
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It doesn’t have the centuries of hate behind it

brittle tapir
severe trail
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Not to say it isn’t bad

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But like

simple cloud
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USA playing on sedition 4 racism

brittle tapir
shy lark
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The way people talk about Slavic people in these parts you'd think they're from the depths of the Congo

shy lark
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Pretty cool

simple cloud
brittle tapir
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chinese will call you a 4 millenia old racial slur invented by a royal dynasty

severe trail
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The normal term for foreigner is(arguably) offensive in mandarin lol

simple cloud
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Meanwhile Slavs literally doing the running of the Jew thing from Borat sooooo

shy lark
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I'm Faroese, living in Denmark

brittle tapir
#

rich euro countries hate slavs yeah

severe trail
#

ā€œOld outsiderā€

#

Sorry I mean foreigners

simple cloud
severe trail
#

老外

#

Smh

#

Not the outsider

brittle tapir
#

wolf casually dropping the mandarin n word or smth

shy lark
#

But who else is going to pick strawberries if not Poles šŸ¤”

severe trail
#

Actually I wonder what the fuck the outsider is called in mandarin lol

severe trail
severe trail
#

The more ā€œpoliteā€ form

simple cloud
#

I love intra Euro racism it’s amazing

brittle tapir
#

they're all the fucking same isn't it funny

severe trail
#

There’s the polite way, the ā€œpoliteā€ way and the ā€œā€ā€ā€politeā€ā€ā€ā€ way

brittle tapir
#

it's like balkan hatred like mfers chill

severe trail
#

Balkans are nationalist towards each other

#

Mostly

simple cloud
#

One of my friends is half Polish and boy oh boy does he know a lot of pole jokes

shy lark
#

Effects of a thousand years of war and Cold War propaganda don't leave easy

brittle tapir
#

the human brain when presented with a colourful flag

tall phoenix
#

šŸ‡¹šŸ‡·

severe trail
#

That one popular Serbian folk song

#

Is like peak Balkans imo

#

The one about how their father committed war crimes

brittle tapir
#

one of the many about killing other balkan people

simple cloud
#

Hahaha

brittle tapir
#

it's funny and sad

shy lark
#

A video of a Turkish man taking a DNA test and it shows like 70% Greek comes to mind
Crying with the Turkish flag in the background

brittle tapir
#

lmao

shy lark
#

The human condition, beautiful

severe trail
#

Me Japanese grandparents finding out I’m 1/
32nd Dutch

royal egret
#

Still getting fucked by the Greeks decades later

severe trail
#

LOL

simple cloud
#

The genetics of Eurasia are pretty amazing for real. So so many migrations and mixing.

#

Mixings

#

But also substantiates a ton of both traditional and like 19th century archaeological narrative.

shy lark
#

I weep at being 50% Irish 1000 years ago šŸ˜”

tall phoenix
#

we interbreed like crazy

severe trail
#

Calling it Istanbul

#

So Roman larpers sob

tall phoenix
#

its just a city

severe trail
#

Yeah

tall phoenix
#

idk why people get so upset about that

#

lmao

severe trail
#

Because they’re weird

royal egret
#

Not Constantinople?

brittle tapir
#

turns out borders dont stop the human desire to have nasty debauched sex

tall phoenix
#

Idk

#

same shit

severe trail
#

Istanbul is the current name

#

Unless Turkey changed it

tall phoenix
#

Its istanbul

#

lmao

severe trail
#

Okay good

severe trail
#

Thank god Taipei is not called Chang Kai Shek city anymore

simple cloud
tall phoenix
#

it could have been called worse, something like Fuckingā„¢ļø

shy lark
#

I heard some wack old people might still call it konstantinyye out in the boonies
The last Romans

tall phoenix
#

NOOOOOOOO

severe trail
severe trail
#

THEY KILLED IT

tall phoenix
#

šŸ’€

brittle tapir
#

they changed it because of you dilara

royal egret
#

They got tired of people stealing their signs

severe trail
#

That makes sense

tall phoenix
#

Based, id steal it too

royal egret
#

And then after they made their sign, almost impossible to steal people still bang each other in front of it

shy lark
#

Now it's just that fucking spurdo bear meme

simple cloud
shy lark
#

o fugggg :DDD

simple cloud
#

They have ruined everything

tall phoenix
#

should have called it

#

Karking

royal egret
#

Honestly impressed they stuck with as long as they did

brittle tapir
#

die

severe trail
#

If you want to expierence East Asian racism in a fantasy setting

#

You can do it in metaphor Refantazio

#

Because it’s like literally just Japanese racism

tall phoenix
#

LMFAO

severe trail
#

I’m not even joking

simple cloud
tall phoenix
#

Nah

#

Eldar are not racist at all

severe trail
#

Eldar racism is weak

tall phoenix
#

Wait hold on

shy lark
#

I like talking to my Japanese friend
So how about Korea huh

severe trail
#

They’re not racist towards each other

#

In the same craftworld

tall phoenix
#

do we mean cultural inspiration wise or actual racism

#

lol

simple cloud
tall phoenix
#

I mean

#

it kinda is

#

its just hyperbolics

simple cloud
#

Speciesism totally rational.

severe trail
#

You see the drukhari are morally correct because they see everyone else as inferior in their moral framework/j

shy lark
#

We need more 40k racism is what I see loregryn

tall phoenix
#

Not this again with your monkey crap šŸ’€

brittle tapir
simple cloud
#

Evolutionary branch must live

severe trail
#

I mean yeah I’d like it in more mainstream books

tall phoenix
severe trail
#

Warhammer crime also has warhammer homophobia

tall phoenix
#

the mainstream books are afraid of it ye

#

its why they always use mutants

severe trail
#

All that’s missing is

shy lark
#

I do, but crank it up

severe trail
#

That one word you don’t call gay people

tall phoenix
#

its very weird

simple cloud
brittle tapir
tall phoenix
#

totally recommend it to anyone

severe trail
tall phoenix
#

yeah the bot sucks

#

I mean uh good bot

severe trail
#

But your fucking brother would be lynched on my homeworld

brittle tapir
severe trail
#

But replace fucking with

tall phoenix
#

^

severe trail
#

That word

#

And it would fit

tall phoenix
#

Like it doesnt need to be on the forefront obvs

#

but humans will always find some reason to hate other humans lol

severe trail
#

Tbf

tall phoenix
#

thats literally reality

severe trail
#

It fits that character

simple cloud
severe trail
#

Lol

brittle tapir
#

yeah but fuck eldar they stink

tall phoenix
#

No fuck you, you furry

shy lark
#

Just crank the intolerance to 11 babey hell yea

severe trail
#

Ignean

royal egret
#

Idk why you guys are worried about a singularity when you’re already bots smh

tall phoenix
#

Silence iron hands fan

simple cloud
#

True

tall phoenix
#

you are already halfway a roomba

#

we ae full amazon drones

shy lark
#

Eldar life path racism bring it in

simple cloud
#

We r the dead internet

tall phoenix
#

chat

#

dead internet theory???

severe trail
brittle tapir
#

i am a creation of deep learning algorithms specifically to spread the word of woke gay agenda

tall phoenix
#

you do that by existing, which is based

severe trail
#

Oh my god wait

brittle tapir
#

that's what they call me in bed

severe trail
#

Oh want to know something really funny that happened a few years ago in Taiwan

#

There’s a conveyor belt sushi chain that did a promotion that if your legal name had any of the characters of salmon in it

#

You’d get free salmon sushi

#

You can only change your name once legally in Taiwan

#

I will give you one guess what happened

brittle tapir
#

why only once

simple cloud
tall phoenix
#

Oh god lmao

severe trail
#

Next question

simple cloud
severe trail
#

LOL

brittle tapir
#

it's like the name change token you're given on the epic game store

tall phoenix
#

Lore accurate China

severe trail
#

*Republic of China

#

Not PRC

#

Smh

tall phoenix
#

Oh right whoops

#

sorry all my knowledge of China as like

#

a nation

severe trail
#

Tbh

tall phoenix
#

comes from Battlefield 2 and 4

severe trail
#

Taiwan also did it

brittle tapir
#

can i rename myself in another country and come back

severe trail
#

The white terror was funny very violent

brittle tapir
#

wait isn't taiwan the country that will arrest you for doing drugs in another country

simple cloud
#

Isn’t Jay Norwegian for salmon

severe trail
#

Except replace communist jackboots

#

With facist ones

#

like my grandpa

simple cloud
#

Oh god Singapore

severe trail
#

Taiwan weed = prison though

#

It’s like 1 year

brittle tapir
#

at least its not death penalty

severe trail
#

Opium smuggling = death sentence

brittle tapir
#

oh

simple cloud
#

Now we gettin the pro Asian turbo racists

brittle tapir
#

fucking opium

severe trail
#

Singapore gigachad punishments

brittle tapir
#

we selling poppies in the hood

severe trail
#

Whipping some shithead kid 50 times

#

Truly a Singapore moment

#

Actually sorry they reduced it to 15

simple cloud
brittle tapir
#

also ban most websites that might have porn

severe trail
#

Because Bush asked

#

Very nicely

#

And Singapore decided to not whip some American teen half to death live on TV

brittle tapir
#

i would have enjoyed that

severe trail
#

šŸ’€

brittle tapir
#

no

#

i would have enjoyed watching it

#

i hate spoiled teens

#

dont do drugs in a foreign country let alone one that HAS THE DEATH PENALTY

simple cloud
simple cloud
severe trail
#

Nah they didn’t so drugs

simple cloud
#

Def for this reason yeah

brittle tapir
#

im in florida rn and you think i dont want to buy some weed im dying here

severe trail
#

They just vandalized a bunch of shit

#

So your choice on if it’s worse

brittle tapir
#

just dont do crime

#

also sounds like shitheads

#

whipping them sounds like the first repercussion they would have had

severe trail
#

Singapore doesn’t do a ton of prison time for stuff ironically

#

It’s usually just

brittle tapir
#

i support whipping tourists

severe trail
#

Getting beaten

#

Lol

simple cloud
#

Island so small where they gonna keep the prisoners

brittle tapir
#

imagine if the buckingham palace whipped you for annoying guards

#

it would be so orderly

simple cloud
severe trail
#

Somewhere

simple cloud
#

[panting]

severe trail
#

Don’t they already scream at tourists

#

Lol

brittle tapir
#

you're weird by my standards

brittle tapir
#

americans go hard like usual

simple cloud
#

Well we are getting to the weird part of the night

#

We have covered a lot of ground in this chat oh boy

severe trail
severe trail
#

My other grandpa is dead

#

So idk what he’d do

simple cloud
#

😦

severe trail
#

Prolly the same

simple cloud
#

Really some good family lore here

severe trail
#

Lol

simple cloud
#

Earlier today in general we learned all about what’s his face’s sister’s libido so

#

It’s a win for Darktide discord today boys

#

You know what I haven’t done in like a week is played Darktide.

shy lark
brittle tapir
#

no mercy for tourists

#

whatever happened to outsiders being held to a higher standard

safe plover
#

path of heaven is really good

#

its kinda better than the crimson king

drowsy urchin
#

It's happening! The Dark Coil in audio format in it's entirety! Soonā„¢ļø

deft bramble
#

do new books come out often?

drowsy urchin
#

define often

#

this one is a rerelease specifically, in a different format. But the article mentioned a couple new ones as well

#

I'd say the pace is about a couple books a month or more

#

speaking of this article

royal egret
deft bramble
#

damn, gw have an entire book conveior

royal egret
#

They got a lot of authors working for them, and tend to tie them into big releases.

safe plover
#

i wanna know what fucking valdor is doing 😠

drowsy urchin
#

I feel it in my bones that we'll get some news about it this year

safe plover
#

AFFIRM!!!

shy lark
#

No Bequin for another two years minimum

safe plover
#

chat remove his bones

drowsy urchin
#

they feel wrong

safe plover
#

i am not ending this year without either sangui/vulkan or more info on the city of dust

royal egret
#

Well I got some bad news

safe plover
#

you always do 🚬

simple cloud
#

The Bequin and the Death: Volume I: Part 1

#

(I would love this I don’t want Bequin to end)

safe plover
#

the thing is im pretty sure the third book would be massive

#

nothing is changing the entire plot as much as what the fuck is valdor doing

#

so makes sense they would try to finish other plot lines before that

#

so were not in a nemesis senario

drowsy urchin
#

maybe he's just bin chilling

safe plover
#

"oh they wanna kill horus huh"

#

i wonder if thatll work out

tall phoenix
#

yeah it'll go essentially nowhere probably

#

but its Abnett

#

so we'll see

safe plover
#

idk im pretty hopeful for valdor and the king in yellow line to be the next big thing

#

im saying they might not wanna pursue it further so it doesnt invalidate on going stories

tall phoenix
#

The next big thing is gonna be me blowing up your house

safe plover
#

šŸ™„

#

you wont do shit without me you youll have to fight off the dan abnett stans alone

tall phoenix
#

To be fair I do like arguing with them and being autopilot'd in said arguments but true

royal egret
#

There’s nothing to argument about, he has the consensus of most of the fans, the authors, sales, reviews, and tenure in other media besides.

tall phoenix
#

There very much is, and the consensus existing doesnt really negate from his much weirder disliked habits and tropes among other stuff, so no lol

royal egret
#

If we’re disqualifying authors based off random weird quirks then I got some bad new about literally every prolific author ever

tall phoenix
#

Yeah its almost like no author is perfect.

#

Stop speaking in absolutes lol

royal egret
#

I’m not, I’m saying some random little issues I may have and me not liking all his books doesn’t change he’s still the best BL author and considered such by his peers, the company, and the community at large for a reason.

I don’t think he always knocks it out of the park and I definitely have issues with several of his books, just like I have issues with basically all the authors I love.

#

It’s all subjective but there’s a fair consensus across all those levels for a reason.

paper maple
#

Alright does anyone have any good Nid centric stuff to recommend, I finished a few Dawn of Fire books and I need a break

#

@tall phoenix You're the xenos expert do you know any good ones pogryn

tall phoenix
#

Uh depends on what you mean by Nid centric, im sure you know the rules already with them usually taking a backseat in most novels

paper maple
#

Yeah I know but anything digestible will do KEKW_ogryn

tall phoenix
#

We had a few of us recommend some uptop like just a day ago hold on

tall phoenix
paper maple
#

Yea I already read Devastation and it was pretty boring shit so I dont really care about that one admittedly even though a lot of people recommended that

tall phoenix
#

If you want some Marine stuff sprinkled in I could also recommend the Leviathan novel, its prime slop but has some good bits for Marines/Tyranids both, its kinda the only major novel largely covering the 4th Tyrannic War atm

paper maple
#

Nah I want a break from astartes atm, I just read Broken Crusade to do my duty as a templar stan KEKW_ogryn but will add that to my list

tall phoenix
#

Fair enough, up to you KEKW_ogryn

paper maple
#

I will maybe get it later tho thanks for the recommendation

tall phoenix
paper maple
#

So these are all shorts tho ye?

tall phoenix
#

Basically. Its kinda the best format you can do with nids without a faction thats actually cognitive taking the spotlight so its the best you are gonna get

paper maple
#

Aight gotcha, they're pretty cheap so ill give em a look

royal egret
#

Devastation of Baal is still the best Nid book imo, as much as there is one

paper maple
#

I really didnt care much for it, the Nid parts were pretty lackluster

#

its also a Blood Angels book mainly so no interest in that even as i was reading it

royal egret
#

Arguably Valedor I guess then

tall phoenix
#

Yeah i literally only got it for BA when i first read it years ago

royal egret
#

I didn’t really like Leviathan

paper maple
royal egret
#

There isn’t really a proper nid book so you know

tall phoenix
royal egret
#

Yeaaaaahhh

tall phoenix
#

like

#

I assume the author just didnt know?

#

lol

#

I get that the first Tyrannic Wars are old lore sure but just read the fucking lexi

simple spire
#

Never really got into Warhammer before but just finished Horus Rising and I feel a lengthy lore addiction happening 🤪

paper maple
#

dont relapse

cerulean peak
tall phoenix
#

LOL SHUT UP

tall phoenix
#

i think the book does a good job of advertising 10th edition nids but the marine parts were ironically just whatever

#

like I like Ultramarines but man

royal egret
paper maple
#

^

#

It will feel off once you start 40k

#

its a really common "symptom"

#

or whatever the best word for it is

tall phoenix
#

Yeah largely because the specific events in 30k got nothing to do with the wider current-ish universe

#

its a Clone Wars type of deal

simple spire
#

Well I was already half way through it when I started reading people saying this online, but too late now

tall phoenix
#

Yeah šŸ˜”

paper maple
tall phoenix
cerulean peak
#

that feel when Eldrad litterally said "in the grim darkness of the far future"

#

I thought the puns and quotes were over

simple spire
#

I was planning on just reading the first few, then moving on idk

paper maple
#

I mean its up to you

#

its 55+ fucking books

#

its kinda made to be in a candystore format

#

you pick what you like KEKW_ogryn

simple spire
#

But the first 3 are linear right ?

cerulean peak
#

54 books + primarchs books + siege of terra

paper maple
#

Yeah they are

#

it all diverges AFTER the Dropshit Massacre

cerulean peak
simple spire
#

Right okay

#

Well I could try something more recent because the first book did kinda conclude, didnt leave you hanging

paper maple
#

Yeah again its up to you

#

the best format to get into 40k is usually just getting into what faction you like the most and exploring from there tbh

cerulean peak
#

I had knowledge of the setting beforehand though

paper maple
#

Also not a bad idea, that

cerulean peak
#

Or... he could just follow THE chart

paper maple
simple spire
#

I've seen the chart

cerulean peak
#

šŸ‘€

paper maple
simple spire
#

It's intimidating

paper maple
#

its just horrible, honestly

cerulean peak
#

As it should be

#

Tbh just read the books in || release order|| and skip the bad ones / factions that you dont care

paper maple
#

^

#

Arbitrator Ian's mass-review is a really good way to also go about it

#

hes very honest lol

cerulean peak
#

It's not high litterature so with minimum reading comprehension, the non-linear nature of the books isn't an obstacle

paper maple
#

^

#

like the reality is a great majority of HH is simply Mid, theres some really good books in it but its like 15 out of 55+

#

the absolutely awful ones are universally panned so its easy to avoid them at least (||aka Salamanders/Dark Angels||)

cerulean peak
simple spire
#

Well I really enjoyed the first one

paper maple
#

Well yeah its peak

#

natural opinion

#

Nobody hates the first few books because they were meticulously planned

#

it only goes bananas after that

cerulean peak
#

Usually the avoided ones are most of the short stories, salamanders, dark angels, battle of the abyss, nemesis, damnation of pythos

simple spire
#

Well apart from the knowing what Warhammer is and playing dawn of war like 15 odd years ago, ready to soak it all in

cerulean peak
#

Just enjoy and do not forget it was all made to sell plastic models. So just enjoy the ride

paper maple
#

This yep.

#

People act like HH is some peak Odyssey tier fiction when its just action-toys fighting each other lol so just go with the flow of what you wanna read really

simple spire
cerulean peak
#

The books are not bad per se

#

Most of them (not all of them) are overrated or underrated

#

This applies to 40k books too

#

I've read "good" warhammer books that were mid and "bad" ones that surprised me because the comments are usually biaised

simple spire
#

Well I don't read often but I do read a few books a year atleast and this caught my attention, like I want to know more, which is a good thing, anything that gets me into reading more 🤣

cerulean peak
#

That's great. As long as people are reading that's good

simple spire
#

Then I will end up buying a favourite character and painting it and GW will have their mission complete 🤣

cerulean peak
#

I worked in a bookstore when I was younger and sometimes parents were telling me they were worried because their kids were reading "simple books". I usually told them that reading easy books is 100 times better than not reading at all

simple spire
#

I mean I'm going to be honest plenty of words in that book that just went straight over my head 🤣

cerulean peak
#

That's a writer thing

simple spire
#

Mainly the descriptives

cerulean peak
#

Dan abnett is known for that

#

Since the HH was written by so many different authors; it varies wildly in quality, pace and mood. That's also a factor as of why the books rating are so controversial

#

Just ask @tall phoenix about Dan Abnett šŸ™‚

tall phoenix
#

he definitely has his boomer moments tho

cerulean peak
#

I was thinking about the "complex words" discussion that happened not too long ago

tall phoenix
#

To be fair that was just stupid

cerulean peak
#

He does enjoy his words

simple spire
#

It was mainly the first chapter, I was thinking is the whole book going to be like this 😭

tall phoenix
#

"people can just look up the egyptian word for lapis lazuli"

tall phoenix
#

FYI hes a harvard graduate

#

so he very much is up his own ass sometimes but it has its positives and negatives, usually the prior

orchid herald
#

why look it up when you can no what it is

tall phoenix
#

yeah its just a dumb argument

simple spire
#

Kindles are handy, you just click the word 😌

tall phoenix
#

I read from a shitty epub app on my phone so i cant 😭

orchid herald
#

don't you carry a encyclopaedia britania with you?

royal egret
#

Mfw I was enjoying a good book but then I didn’t know one word which is easy to figure out with basic context so it’s ruined now

cerulean peak
royal egret
#

Also just play Minecraft smh

simple spire
orchid herald
#

the worst one's are when you get into the gothic section of some 40k books, beacuse latin they fail at, it latin but the translation of latin to english is not enough really

tall phoenix
#

like why is it so bad that I dont know some archaic word

#

and dont wanna get off my ass to google it in a section im reading lol

royal egret
#

Unironically though it’s probably one of the more known of ā€œobscureā€ colors these days

#

Just because Minecraft

orchid herald
#

i mean archic words are the best you just use it when you run out of regular words

tall phoenix
#

** hsbd-iryt**

royal egret
#

It’s just he’s using it to describe a power blades hue so like, it’s not hard to figure out what it means

tall phoenix
#

like

#

what?

tall phoenix
#

Its why even use this random ass word

#

if you wanna be artsy just use something else

royal egret
#

Because it’s fun

tall phoenix
#

For you i guess

#

fucking " hsbd-iryt", get outta here KEKW_ogryn

simple spire
#

You guys didn't get Latin at school ? Heathens

royal egret
#

Its a perfectly cromulent usage of the word

oak pollen
tall phoenix
#

its ancient egyptian

oak pollen
#

ye

tall phoenix
#

truly im uncultured

royal egret
#

It’s Persian

tall phoenix
#

eh same thing

oak pollen
#

kekw

tall phoenix
royal egret
#

See this is why you should read these Dilara

#

You might learn

#

Dangerous pastime but

cerulean peak
tall phoenix
#

I learned enough in architecture universities, last thing i care about is history

oak pollen
#

Dan wrote the line in question right?

tall phoenix
#

Yeah he did

#

he does it a lot

tall phoenix
#

sometimes its great sometimes it reaches grognard levels

tall phoenix
#

but like again, Harvard graduate so its expected

oak pollen
#

and he studied at the same university as Tolkien correct?

tall phoenix
#

Uhhh not sure on that one

oak pollen
#

well if its Harvard then no it wasnt

tall phoenix
#

lol wait its not even harvard

#

its Oxford

oak pollen
#

ok so yes it was

tall phoenix
#

explains even more

cerulean peak
#

Abnett doesn't compare to Tolkien lol

tall phoenix
#

Also that yeah

cerulean peak
#

Tolkien has finesse

oak pollen
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yup, it has to be an Oxford thing, both have a similar writing style i found

cerulean peak
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Abnett just shoves tryhard words