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The emperor is the good guy and the interex were filthy xenos that needed to be purged
Horus was a bitch
He still is
No, now hes 6 feet under
It's true that my end and the death copy is under 6 feet of horus heresy books
Can't argue with that
horus is a bitch
just say no to chaos
its that fucking easy
I mean he did get stabbed with the poop knife
So he is a shitty bitch
No
its a litearal poop knife
ITS NOT
all they had to do was put horus in stasis and send him to the emperor
Horus belongs to the septic tank
the emperor would have looked at him did a naruto hand seal and cleansed him of chaos
or idk maybe liquidated 3 blanks and fed them to horus
lmao
he literally blew up a planet for an attempted assassination attempt on it
so its not too far off
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Enema knife š¤

To be fair, the anathame does look like a turd
now i have to skip this book i fucking hate
wow thanks
LMAO
Buried Dagger
Buried dagger
or should I say
the Buried Poop Dagger
its also the "last" HH novel
since it moves to Siege
fucking marketing gimmick dumbasses lol
smh itll be a while
Just because its in the outhouse doesnt mean its buried
The primarchs are such wusses, as per Titus you just have to say no
Yeah say no like batman
all mortie had to do
I mean manbat cannibal
Your body, your choice
just say no
chaos is like vampires (at least for primarchs) gotta be invited in
Dorn just said no, it worked for him
Morty said yes to ease his son's pain
Morty's a lil b with a lil p
morty folded under no pressure same for angron
Dorn has Dornoimperialfistiumplotarmorium
And the poop glove
I mean pain glove
How can you know; you haven't read the 54th book of the Horus Heresy (tm)
And the tramp stamp
aaaaaa
i must meditate on this bring forth the poop glove
If GRRM can, so can we
Uses his hands so hard they fall off
And his sons collect it and sign it like a soccer ball
what the fuck is happening with dorn and his legion
Idk I think siggismund was the only normal one
No codex astartes appendix made by brother rhetoricus.
Anyway do you think thats why the fists stay hidden within their walls, for fear of what they created
They're having fistycuffs with Peter Turbo and his girls
Shovel v shovel
peter and dorn in the autismoff
100000 imperial fists fighting in the iron cage
100000 fists at ram ranch
Nah thats 18 primarchs
The primarch pseudo incest is surely just on tumblr
its a shame that shitpost was made by a pedo brony
Anyway which legion was the most normal?
The khan?
Like the ultramarines had girlyman, magnus had people being turned into sheep, the dark angels had redacted, the fists, the wolves were turning into jacob, the blood angels, petty rabble is cutting his entire legion in half and putting olympia back together with flex seal.
super unreliable they share zero info with the astra militarium
they just help out randomly
dark angels are pretty normal imo
Normal in a behavioral sense?
Yeah
prolly ultra marines or dark angels and some for their uhhh whats the word
foundling chapters?
Probably a tossup between Ultramarines, Luna Wolves, Salamanders or just maybe Dark Angels
Was talking about legions
then yeah just ultra marines or dark angels
If we add in chapters... ultramarines has the cannibals
I haven't read many HH books though because I don't care
salamanders were very suicidal until they found vulkan he was the last to be found so they kept trying to prove themselves primarchless
I think the mortifactors were second fpunding
Yes afaik
Luna wolves got too involved with their frats
Going around calling the Emperor the Ultimate Warrior like it's some wrestling title
Their hazing got a bit far.....
Frat bros are fairly normal
Probably ends up being dark angels or ultramarines then
Dark angels are probably the better ones because they were trusted to do redacted
Could have been the Iron Hands if Ferrus didn't lose his head
Oh yeah ferrusful hands were normal
They werenāt really
They were still a super brutal legion which did scorched earth tactics, and the augmetic thing was very prevalent still back then.
World Eaters pre Angron seems to have been brutal but fairly sensible, I lean towards UM or Salamanders
Ferrus also didnāt plan on purging the augmetics focus until after the GC was done and they didnāt need to be more effective anymore.
Which even if he survived would never have happened
you dropped this king
Ive still only read the grey knights omnibus because I am too busy reading random other novels
to be fair thats one of the good ones
lots of good homoerotic moments as well for female readers like me

I thought that was what aos was for
to be fair both got gay moments
Like the one part where the inquisitor writes down the demons name in blood on the walls
or the gay relationship between alaric and the khorne chaos champion in the third

Waste of time innit
Warhammer Romance when
Iām literally serious the little snatches of interpersonal relationships we get from the more talented authors are so good.
Drusher and Macks in The Magos personal fave.
NEVER
WARHAMMER ROMANCE DAMN IT
Only if it ends poorly

I only want to put down the readerxprimarch shippers thinking about it. Make the story an allegory about that
Innit though, a good bunch 40k books are mediocre to begin with and 30k is a contrived mess

Ok yes but itās tasty slop sigsen
ITāS TASTY SLOP
George Eliot only wrote seven books
What am I supposed to read after that
WARHAMMER
Obv
With a little Milton on the side.
The Western canon
Really I consider Paradise Lost a sort of rough draft of the Horus Heresy. Milton could have tried harder how many times does Samus appear w his catchphrase?
No times.
None.
Heresy >>>> PL
The Iliad? Basically 0 busty women in bodygloves. Trash.
But what about paradise regained?
How do you think helen became such a baddy, she was wearing bodygloves
More of an Emperor biopic
Thought that was morte d'arthur
Thatās the adventures of the primooorks
Les Primarches rather hon hon hon š„
Lorgar: Papa, tu es dieu?!
Papa: bof
Just imagine all of the unnamed soldiers as busty women in bodygloves
Omg
what do you guys recommend from below the black line
LMAO
Master of Mankind
Just read that
I canāt make out any of the others
Unremembered Empire> Pharos>Ruinstorm is a pretty major arc too
what about the path of heaven and the crimson king
ye they were very good
Did you read Angel Exterminatus?
listen is weird to say
I too listen everything but it doesn't have the right ring to it
But I'd say every mainline novel besides Deathfire and Old Earth are worth the time below that line
The Crimson King had a subpar narrator though
anthalogies you can skip
yeah ive come to realize that
out of all of them so far
i can remember 1 short story
and loosely the events of another
OHH WAIT
the garro stuff was good
but its closer to a real novel than an anthology
Happy New Year, one and all!

Happy new year everyone 
š Hmmm beer....
happy new year
Happy new year
Source?
Happy New Year nerds.
Got:
Eisenhorn Omnibus by Dan Abnett
Night Lords Omnibus by Aaron-Dembski Bowden
Lords of Silence by Xhris Wraight
The Infinite and the Divine by Robert Rath
These are my first 40k books, am in for a good ride? I'm halfway through 'Xenos' & also started 'Soul Hunter'
all good picks
if you can get kingsmaker by robert rath and I sandy mitchell's cain omnibus (their 3)
Yes!
Yes excellent.
You were advised well.
Thanks guys, loving it so far!!
Apart from Darktide I'm also playing Space Marine 2 & Rogue Trader. Rogue Trader is so great at introducing 40k. It's helped me understand bits of the worldbuilding the books mention! (i.e. what a Navigator does, the Navis Nobilite, etc.!)
Rogue Trader is PEAK for wider universe exploration as a game 
Canāt go wrong with Eisenhorn, theyāre all absolutely perfect 40k books
Holy shit youāre really being inundated. Thatās great.
I want to know so much more about the writers and loremasters involved in RT. Itās an amazing feat.
@umbral hinge the real question is when are you going to buy your first tabletop army. And your second. And your third.
Owlcat is good at world building, its just a lot of reading
started reading Eisenhorn and loving it so far, such a chill read
its a super moodpiece and cozy
Yessss
Yes welcome
You know it is kind of cozy isnāt it
i dont find it cozy
so much action
i guess the parts where he returns to his home base to talk for 3 chapters is cozy
but even then there's always a layer of gross in 40k that makes everything feel dangerous
"stabbing me is all part of my plan"
-man about to die of severe blood loss from getting stabbed
Iāve lived in NYC makes me feel @ home
Norovirus strong
U havenāt lived til youāve rolled the dice on that Sbarro inside the Penn Station subway.
Will you have a delicious slice or will you have a delicious slice and then contribute to the traditional pile of human excrement on the stairs leading to the uptown 1 train
Finished Requiem Infernal a little bit ago. I should get more Fehervari
i am struggling with the crimson king
i have no idea what the fuck is happening most of the time
i fell asleep on ONE chapter
now its a mess
Thatās how I feel with the Eisenhorn series. š„±šŖšŖ
You're a wizard harry
You definitely should! š
I think I'll be grabbing The Reverie next and then the Twice Dead King series. The latter has been on my TBR forever.
There is no chronological order

you pick a novel and read it, this is a galaxy spanning setting
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short version: doesnt matter lol read what you like and be happy
and a bunch of books you might start with
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Epic
I heard horus rising is a good place to start.
People def recommend against starting with the horus heresy
yeah it's basically set in it's own era that largely doesn't affect the main setting much besides history
Not only bc its a different setting compared to 40k but also bc the whole series is long and changing in quality per book
maybe watching Leutin's videos is a better idea for learning about the story chronologically
at first, at least
A coworker watched a few lore videos, mostly the chronological lore of all of 40k and then started with the heresy as his first books. It has been enjoyable to follow his experience that way
don't think it's the worst possible thing to do
It's pretty wild when someone who doesn't even know all the legions or whom go traitor goes through the books
Can anyone recommend good books about/with tyranids?
devastation of baal
yeah can confirm i watched ~170h of horus heresy breakdowns before starting
it made it smoother but still
some books you're gonna have to memorize a short discription of each major char 
The correct answer here as ever is Eisenhorn: Xenos
Ignore what Jerk said, thats space marine centric, 1 sec
- Blood Harvest
- Devilhunter
- The Convocation
- The Devouring Void
- The Long and Hungry Road
While not books persay these are a collection of 4-5 short stories showing in a simple format whats it actually like to fight against Nids/What they kinda do
Read Dante and then Devastation of Baal š


Appreciate the recommendations, cheers š
the long and hungry road is a good one, its only a short story, but it's by adrian tchaikovsky
Yeee all the ones i listed are Shorts but its prob the best format you can get to explore nids as a faction.
especially with no other faction largely attached to them with Nids just taking the backseat position
typical Jerk
last chapter of the crimson king
i still dont know whats happening but i feel bad for magnus š
Hes just a misunderstood gayboy
Finished Fire Caste today, cinema
really hope they'll release the rest of the dark coil in audio soon
which I really suspect is happening when the book is called "The Dark Coil: Fire Caste" when the narrator names it, not just Fire Caste
Yeahhhh. Yeah.
Anyone read the Arhi⦠Ahri⦠airy-man books?
'ate magnus 'ate arryman 'ate the thousand sons nuff said
'ate russ too

I've not because I don't care about the HH books
I respect ur position
I respect that itās wrong
NOOOOOO
magnus redemption arc i believe
Grown ass man just had to sit down and do nothing and now his boytoys are condemned to eternal service to chess satan
Smgdh
man
listening to Jonathan Keeble is so funny
he makes daemons sound exactly like he makes little girls sound
this is literally how he makes daemons sound
"TELL ME WHERE THE SHARD IS DAEMON"
" no :333"
This man deserves a knighthood
No better
Make him an American
mmmm no :3
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I do love his hilariously terrible American accents for eg John G
I like to think he could do a perfect one but is making fun of us
British prob subtly making fun of us 90% of the time but jokes on them we autistically donāt get it and are just happy theyāre so nice
Not a HH fan and I hate all of the destiny stuff that's all throughout it, but having all these Latin/Roman/British/Slavic/"Is that racistly Asian?" accents have been built-up to the point that I don't second-guess them.
Having someone walk into a scene going "Now hang-on just a cotton-pickin' minute heeyah, Mistah Hooris. Ah reckon yet up-tah some sorta Harass-y" is fucking hilarious.
I'm a touch upset at the lack of more recognizably Asian/Hispanic/Black/etc voices not only in the audiobooks, but also in Darktide ("Which flavor of White UK resident do you want for 18/21 voice options?") . . . but I'd be sorely tempted at the opportunity to have the next class have at least one hilariously out of place Yankee accent.
Darktide has a few different non-native english VAs so it works well enough, the thing is 40k VAs in most media have almost always been british
Ok this legit would be funny af
Lmao
As a distinctly nonwhite person I can say I couldnāt really give less of a fuck about being ārepresentedā in that way and thatās a pretty common sentiment outside of the sort of liberal arts college student crowd.
Iām going to be honest Iād rather them not personally as a Chinese person regarding like accents
I do like that skin tones and features etc can be changed
Because what level of accenting lol
But I donāt care that much about that either tbh
Are they going to pick someone whoās fluent in English, because in that case the accents not going to sound what people would expect to be āAsianā lol
I just find it hilarious whenever audiobook authors go into that accent for the white scars
lmao having a scars book read by some fobby Chinese/Mongolian grandpa would be hilarious.
I agree LOL
Narrator commentary: āwhy my son read this? Should be reading math homework.ā
I know this as the āShiban Khan accentā
I canāt decide whether itās so bad itās good or so bad itās bad.
also people having racist flippant moments from it is about as great
never forget Avenging Son
for example as a muslim person I absolutely hate Tallarn because they are literally based on white british extras from Lawrence of Arabia lol
(also one book i read had them as suicide bombers against tau which is LOL)
Banger movie tbh (Iām Punjabi) but yeah there could be some uh updates.
To Tallarn etc
Yeah but id rather not have bedouins be just white people 
they invaded enough, get out of my head aaaa

Suffer the British
Average cultist
I already do being a 40k fan you fucker-
The cool thing w 40K and skin tone etc is that 10,000 years is way way more than enough for skin color to evolve twenty different ways
Yeah shame we never explore that mostly but i get why
Up to you to decide if theyāre imperial or chaos
with a fandom this racist its probably best not to lol
Shame too, since observing how different cultures would venerate the Emperor and Imperial Truth has a lot of terrific mileage seemingly only reserved to space marines.
stick to mutations as the allegory for it
People already donāt read warhammer crime lol
The Brits are so good at conquering but letās be honest Islamic nations are a close second.
Yeah the problem is these are always written by british writers who really do not get these cultures half the time
Put the voidborn lynching in a real popular book
We Sikhs tried but suck
We are too busy blowing up each other
Do it in the next Cain book
Terrible conquering skills
Got absolutely wiped by the Mughals
Total War Moment
F
Sorry wrong Muslim warlord
Smgdh at coloured people pushing us whites out of 40k with marginal representation š
yeah im glad 40k is being more inclusive in a nicer way
like people getting mad at black characters on 40k book covers is fucking nuts

people also hating on Gadriel/Acheron for like
being asian or black š
bruh RELAX
Found the Drukhari
It's genuinely funny to me
That one 4chan post that Iām not sure if itās racist or just bait
No
no like in GENERAL lmao
dude we had a guy here say "saved by the sarge" is woke because it implies a woman saved you? What
Dont forget the Indian cadian commander
Sigh mine 2
Oh my god

Oh. My god.
Glory be to my grandparents racism
It's just an old folk thing to be virulently racist
For it is directed at me(sometimes)
GLORY
Def not
Casual racism is very common in East and Southeast Asia
I knew a Taiwanese who was 25% Japanese and the family drama was off the charts
No old Asian people are like 50 times more racist than old white people
See: Japan, China, Taiwan
Also Korea
But I donāt have personal expierence
So I canāt comment on Korea beyond it looks the same
Def Korea source had Korean roommates for 9 years total, dated Korean girl
east asians casually practising eugenics despite having some of the least diverse genetic makeup in the world
Old Nordic folk are just about non-stop casual racist in my experience. Further south than France or east of Germany you're in oogaboogaland
Damn Koreans even got racist against Koreans and now their birth rate is like 0.2 per person
Casual incels and femcels vs ranked professional incels and femcels
Ethnic homogeneity
South Korea is my favorite dystopia
Allowing women to sit down on trains????
Nah
Chaebol gaming

Itās cray bc a lot of Koreans, men and women, are super hot.
South Korea is doing ranked misogyny it's wild
REAL
Taiwan is the best country of the 4 because Taiwanese parliament get into fist fights
No homo but I woulda dropped my panties for some of my Korean bros
Never imply a Norwegian is ethnically homogenous to me again 

O no
Amateurs
It doesnāt have the centuries of hate behind it
"your head is too ovoid, you're stupid scientifically speaking"
USA playing on sedition 4 racism
merely 3 centuries
The way people talk about Slavic people in these parts you'd think they're from the depths of the Congo
Pretty cool
Bro I literally cannot believe the level of anti Slav hate hahaha itās comical
chinese will call you a 4 millenia old racial slur invented by a royal dynasty
are you german
The normal term for foreigner is(arguably) offensive in mandarin lol
Meanwhile Slavs literally doing the running of the Jew thing from Borat sooooo
I'm Faroese, living in Denmark
rich euro countries hate slavs yeah
U wot m8 thatās a Cātan
wolf casually dropping the mandarin n word or smth
But who else is going to pick strawberries if not Poles š¤
Actually I wonder what the fuck the outsider is called in mandarin lol
It just means foreigner
Omg
The more āpoliteā form
I love intra Euro racism itās amazing
they're all the fucking same isn't it funny
Thereās the polite way, the āpoliteā way and the āāāāpoliteāāāā way
it's like balkan hatred like mfers chill
One of my friends is half Polish and boy oh boy does he know a lot of pole jokes
Effects of a thousand years of war and Cold War propaganda don't leave easy
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That one popular Serbian folk song
Is like peak Balkans imo
The one about how their father committed war crimes
one of the many about killing other balkan people
Hahaha
it's funny and sad
A video of a Turkish man taking a DNA test and it shows like 70% Greek comes to mind
Crying with the Turkish flag in the background
lmao
The human condition, beautiful
Omg
Me Japanese grandparents finding out Iām 1/
32nd Dutch
Still getting fucked by the Greeks decades later
LOL
The genetics of Eurasia are pretty amazing for real. So so many migrations and mixing.
Mixings
But also substantiates a ton of both traditional and like 19th century archaeological narrative.
I weep at being 50% Irish 1000 years ago š
Goes both ways tbh
we interbreed like crazy
its just a city
Yeah
Because theyāre weird
Not Constantinople?
turns out borders dont stop the human desire to have nasty debauched sex
Okay good
Nor does species
Thank god Taipei is not called Chang Kai Shek city anymore
it could have been called worse, something like Fuckingā¢ļø
I heard some wack old people might still call it konstantinyye out in the boonies
The last Romans
NOOOOOOOO
Idk Iād rather a city not be named after a facist mass murderer
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they changed it because of you dilara
They got tired of people stealing their signs
That makes sense
Based, id steal it too
And then after they made their sign, almost impossible to steal people still bang each other in front of it
Now it's just that fucking spurdo bear meme
LOL
wtf this is literally violence
o fugggg :DDD
They have ruined everything
its a crime against humanity
should have called it
Karking

Honestly impressed they stuck with as long as they did
die
If you want to expierence East Asian racism in a fantasy setting
You can do it in metaphor Refantazio
Because itās like literally just Japanese racism
LMFAO
Iām not even joking
Also see Eldar lmao
Eldar racism is weak
Wait hold on
I like talking to my Japanese friend
So how about Korea huh
Ok thatās true I was just making a big deal about how speciesism isnāt racism
Speciesism totally rational.
You see the drukhari are morally correct because they see everyone else as inferior in their moral framework/j
We need more 40k racism is what I see 
Not this again with your monkey crap š
sanest 40k biologis
Evolutionary branch must live
I mean yeah Iād like it in more mainstream books
read Warhammer Crime
Warhammer crime also has warhammer homophobia
All thatās missing is
I do, but crank it up
That one word you donāt call gay people
Im glad it exists because i got no idea why people think homophobia wouldnt exist in 40k lol
its very weird
Iāve heard good things about that series
i give you the f pass
its peak
totally recommend it to anyone
Agreed yeah
Yeah well the bot wonāt let me for obvious reasons lol
But your fucking brother would be lynched on my homeworld

But replace fucking with
^
Like it doesnt need to be on the forefront obvs
but humans will always find some reason to hate other humans lol
Tbf
thats literally reality
It fits that character
Yeah man b careful Sam Altman says weāre approaching the singularity
Lol
yeah but fuck eldar they stink
No fuck you, you furry
Just crank the intolerance to 11 babey hell yea
Ignean
Idk why you guys are worried about a singularity when youāre already bots smh
True
Beep boop
Silence iron hands fan
True
Eldar life path racism bring it in
We r the dead internet
No pathistās(yet)
i am a creation of deep learning algorithms specifically to spread the word of woke gay agenda
āDeep learningā
Oh my god wait
that's what they call me in bed
Oh want to know something really funny that happened a few years ago in Taiwan
Thereās a conveyor belt sushi chain that did a promotion that if your legal name had any of the characters of salmon in it
Youād get free salmon sushi
You can only change your name once legally in Taiwan
I will give you one guess what happened
why only once
When they wake 2 the deep learning theyāll have woken
Oh god lmao
Because of the KMT wanting to keep track of people
Next question
Lmao
LOL
it's like the name change token you're given on the epic game store
Lore accurate China
Tbh
comes from Battlefield 2 and 4
Taiwan also did it
can i rename myself in another country and come back
The white terror was funny very violent
wait isn't taiwan the country that will arrest you for doing drugs in another country
Isnāt Jay Norwegian for salmon
No thatās Singapore
Oh god Singapore
at least its not death penalty
Opium smuggling = death sentence
oh
Now we gettin the pro Asian turbo racists
fucking opium
Singapore
punishments
we selling poppies in the hood
Whipping some shithead kid 50 times
Truly a Singapore moment
Actually sorry they reduced it to 15
p r a g m a t i c
also ban most websites that might have porn
Because Bush asked
Very nicely
And Singapore decided to not whip some American teen half to death live on TV
i would have enjoyed that
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cringe capitulation
no
i would have enjoyed watching it
i hate spoiled teens
dont do drugs in a foreign country let alone one that HAS THE DEATH PENALTY
Yeah me too.
Oh. Right yeah. For this reason.
Nah they didnāt so drugs
Def for this reason yeah
im in florida rn and you think i dont want to buy some weed im dying here
just dont do crime
also sounds like shitheads
whipping them sounds like the first repercussion they would have had
Singapore doesnāt do a ton of prison time for stuff ironically
Itās usually just
i support whipping tourists
Island so small where they gonna keep the prisoners
imagine if the buckingham palace whipped you for annoying guards
it would be so orderly
Y⦠yes. So⦠orderly
[panting]
you're weird by my standards
nah that's tomb of the unknown soldier
americans go hard like usual
Thatās ur grandpa
Well we are getting to the weird part of the night
We have covered a lot of ground in this chat oh boy
My grandpa doesnāt scream at tourists he just mutters about them
Hahahaha real
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Prolly the same
Really some good family lore here
Lol
Earlier today in general we learned all about whatās his faceās sisterās libido so
Itās a win for Darktide discord today boys
You know what I havenāt done in like a week is played Darktide.
They do trample kids who get in the way at least
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no mercy for tourists
whatever happened to outsiders being held to a higher standard
It's happening! The Dark Coil in audio format in it's entirety! Soonā¢ļø
do new books come out often?
define often
this one is a rerelease specifically, in a different format. But the article mentioned a couple new ones as well
I'd say the pace is about a couple books a month or more
speaking of this article
Thereās often a couple every month or so at least, but it varies.
damn, gw have an entire book conveior
They got a lot of authors working for them, and tend to tie them into big releases.
bequin 3 when??????
i wanna know what fucking valdor is doing š
I feel it in my bones that we'll get some news about it this year
AFFIRM!!!
No Bequin for another two years minimum
chat remove his bones
they feel wrong
i am not ending this year without either sangui/vulkan or more info on the city of dust
Well I got some bad news
you always do š¬
Every time u ask this the Emperor gives Dan Abnett writing block
The Bequin and the Death: Volume I: Part 1
(I would love this I donāt want Bequin to end)
the thing is im pretty sure the third book would be massive
nothing is changing the entire plot as much as what the fuck is valdor doing
so makes sense they would try to finish other plot lines before that
so were not in a nemesis senario
maybe he's just bin chilling
idk im pretty hopeful for valdor and the king in yellow line to be the next big thing
im saying they might not wanna pursue it further so it doesnt invalidate on going stories
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you wont do shit without me you youll have to fight off the dan abnett stans alone
To be fair I do like arguing with them and being autopilot'd in said arguments but true
Thereās nothing to argument about, he has the consensus of most of the fans, the authors, sales, reviews, and tenure in other media besides.
There very much is, and the consensus existing doesnt really negate from his much weirder disliked habits and tropes among other stuff, so no lol
If weāre disqualifying authors based off random weird quirks then I got some bad new about literally every prolific author ever
Iām not, Iām saying some random little issues I may have and me not liking all his books doesnāt change heās still the best BL author and considered such by his peers, the company, and the community at large for a reason.
I donāt think he always knocks it out of the park and I definitely have issues with several of his books, just like I have issues with basically all the authors I love.
Itās all subjective but thereās a fair consensus across all those levels for a reason.
Alright does anyone have any good Nid centric stuff to recommend, I finished a few Dawn of Fire books and I need a break
@tall phoenix You're the xenos expert do you know any good ones 
Uh depends on what you mean by Nid centric, im sure you know the rules already with them usually taking a backseat in most novels
Yeah I know but anything digestible will do 
We had a few of us recommend some uptop like just a day ago hold on
ıf you want something more basic-digetisble no pun intended probably get these short stories first, they got a lot of good Nid focuses in em
Yea I already read Devastation and it was pretty boring shit so I dont really care about that one admittedly even though a lot of people recommended that
If you want some Marine stuff sprinkled in I could also recommend the Leviathan novel, its prime slop but has some good bits for Marines/Tyranids both, its kinda the only major novel largely covering the 4th Tyrannic War atm
Nah I want a break from astartes atm, I just read Broken Crusade to do my duty as a templar stan
but will add that to my list
Fair enough, up to you 
I will maybe get it later tho thanks for the recommendation

So these are all shorts tho ye?
Basically. Its kinda the best format you can do with nids without a faction thats actually cognitive taking the spotlight so its the best you are gonna get
Aight gotcha, they're pretty cheap so ill give em a look
Devastation of Baal is still the best Nid book imo, as much as there is one
I really didnt care much for it, the Nid parts were pretty lackluster
its also a Blood Angels book mainly so no interest in that even as i was reading it
Arguably Valedor I guess then
Yeah i literally only got it for BA when i first read it years ago
I didnāt really like Leviathan
Also read that, was alright.
There isnāt really a proper nid book so you know
Ultramarines somehow not knowing Nids are synaptic

Yeaaaaahhh
like
I assume the author just didnt know?
lol
I get that the first Tyrannic Wars are old lore sure but just read the fucking lexi
Never really got into Warhammer before but just finished Horus Rising and I feel a lengthy lore addiction happening š¤Ŗ
They didn't have the red effect that's why
LOL SHUT UP
i think the book does a good job of advertising 10th edition nids but the marine parts were ironically just whatever
like I like Ultramarines but man
Itās up to you but I personally would recommend more 40k books before reading the heresy
^
It will feel off once you start 40k
its a really common "symptom"
or whatever the best word for it is
Yeah largely because the specific events in 30k got nothing to do with the wider current-ish universe
its a Clone Wars type of deal
Well I was already half way through it when I started reading people saying this online, but too late now
Yeah š
Im not sure if its the best example but i can kinda agree ye, i read a majority of it when i get into 40k years ago so i might be biased
Id comment but yeah basically, I gotta go back to movie-watching with my friend so 
that feel when Eldrad litterally said "in the grim darkness of the far future"
I thought the puns and quotes were over
I was planning on just reading the first few, then moving on idk
I mean its up to you
its 55+ fucking books
its kinda made to be in a candystore format
you pick what you like 
But the first 3 are linear right ?
54 books + primarchs books + siege of terra
First 3 are linear; 4th starts towards the end of book 3; 5 is in parralel of book 1-3
Right okay
Well I could try something more recent because the first book did kinda conclude, didnt leave you hanging
Yeah again its up to you
the best format to get into 40k is usually just getting into what faction you like the most and exploring from there tbh
I alternate between 40k and the HH
I had knowledge of the setting beforehand though
Also not a bad idea, that
Or... he could just follow THE chart

I've seen the chart
š

It's intimidating
its just horrible, honestly
As it should be
Tbh just read the books in || release order|| and skip the bad ones / factions that you dont care
^
Arbitrator Ian's mass-review is a really good way to also go about it
hes very honest lol
It's not high litterature so with minimum reading comprehension, the non-linear nature of the books isn't an obstacle
^
like the reality is a great majority of HH is simply Mid, theres some really good books in it but its like 15 out of 55+
the absolutely awful ones are universally panned so its easy to avoid them at least (||aka Salamanders/Dark Angels||)
This. I used his video to cull the series down to the books that interested me and I am in the process of reading the chosen ones in release order
Well I really enjoyed the first one
Well yeah its peak
natural opinion

Nobody hates the first few books because they were meticulously planned
it only goes bananas after that
Usually the avoided ones are most of the short stories, salamanders, dark angels, battle of the abyss, nemesis, damnation of pythos
Well apart from the knowing what Warhammer is and playing dawn of war like 15 odd years ago, ready to soak it all in
Just enjoy and do not forget it was all made to sell plastic models. So just enjoy the ride
This yep.
People act like HH is some peak Odyssey tier fiction when its just action-toys fighting each other lol so just go with the flow of what you wanna read really
Well I guess the books have to be somewhat good then, otherwise people won't wanna buy shit unless they play the game
The books are not bad per se
Most of them (not all of them) are overrated or underrated
This applies to 40k books too
I've read "good" warhammer books that were mid and "bad" ones that surprised me because the comments are usually biaised
Well I don't read often but I do read a few books a year atleast and this caught my attention, like I want to know more, which is a good thing, anything that gets me into reading more š¤£
That's great. As long as people are reading that's good
Then I will end up buying a favourite character and painting it and GW will have their mission complete š¤£
I worked in a bookstore when I was younger and sometimes parents were telling me they were worried because their kids were reading "simple books". I usually told them that reading easy books is 100 times better than not reading at all
I mean I'm going to be honest plenty of words in that book that just went straight over my head š¤£
That's a writer thing
Mainly the descriptives
Dan abnett is known for that
Since the HH was written by so many different authors; it varies wildly in quality, pace and mood. That's also a factor as of why the books rating are so controversial
Just ask @tall phoenix about Dan Abnett š
I dont hate Abnett I just hate his quirks

he definitely has his boomer moments tho
I was thinking about the "complex words" discussion that happened not too long ago
To be fair that was just stupid
He does enjoy his words
It was mainly the first chapter, I was thinking is the whole book going to be like this š
"people can just look up the egyptian word for lapis lazuli"
LMAO
FYI hes a harvard graduate
so he very much is up his own ass sometimes but it has its positives and negatives, usually the prior
why look it up when you can no what it is
yeah its just a dumb argument
Kindles are handy, you just click the word š
I read from a shitty epub app on my phone so i cant š
don't you carry a encyclopaedia britania with you?
Mfw I was enjoying a good book but then I didnāt know one word which is easy to figure out with basic context so itās ruined now

Also just play Minecraft smh
Pretty sure you can pick up an old kindle for like £10 on marketplace
the worst one's are when you get into the gothic section of some 40k books, beacuse latin they fail at, it latin but the translation of latin to english is not enough really
Nobody said its ruined, its just stupid
like why is it so bad that I dont know some archaic word
and dont wanna get off my ass to google it in a section im reading lol
Unironically though itās probably one of the more known of āobscureā colors these days
Just because Minecraft
i mean archic words are the best you just use it when you run out of regular words
the word is right
** hsbd-iryt**
Itās just heās using it to describe a power blades hue so like, itās not hard to figure out what it means
Again. It isnt "hard to figure out" thats the issue.
Its why even use this random ass word
if you wanna be artsy just use something else
Because itās fun
You guys didn't get Latin at school ? Heathens
Its a perfectly cromulent usage of the word
its not Latin iirc
its ancient egyptian
ye
truly im uncultured
Itās Persian
eh same thing
kekw

See this is why you should read these Dilara
You might learn
Dangerous pastime but
What? You don't hsbd-iryt? ||pathetic|| 

Dan wrote the line in question right?
Based
sometimes its great sometimes it reaches grognard levels
and he studied at the same university as Tolkien correct?
Uhhh not sure on that one
well if its Harvard then no it wasnt
ok so yes it was
Abnett doesn't compare to Tolkien lol
Also that yeah
Tolkien has finesse
yup, it has to be an Oxford thing, both have a similar writing style i found
Abnett just shoves tryhard words




