40k-book-club

[mental rose]

and how did a power tap lead to that happened is not explained at all

is it bad writing?

the junktion story was pretty well received overall so i feel like there something i missed out on

[unborn merlin]

His Primarch book is pretty good.

The short stories by ADB are also just…

https://tenor.com/view/perfection-perfect-michael-fassbender-magneto-x-men-first-class-gif-2260686001358167676

I’m a bonafide Sevatar simp. I love that man.

[tall phoenix]

1. Dont think so hard about it

2. This series is from 2005

[unborn merlin]

Take what I say with a grain of salt, I’m a son of Nostramo so I’ll probably have rose tinted glasses on.

I do think they’re more than the dudes that wear human cloaks made out of flesh but they’re either written well or written like Saturday morning cartoon villains.

I love both interpretations evenly lol.

[tall phoenix]

The latter gets boring

because all chaos marines kill civillians and flay children

[unborn merlin]

That’s a problem with every CSM tho.

[tall phoenix]

I LITERALLY JUST FUCKING SAID THAT

[unborn merlin]

Ha jokes on you. Warhammer fans can’t actually read.

[tall phoenix]

[unborn merlin]

Jokes aside I’m at work so I kinda just glanced at the convo don’t hurt me 🖤

[wise yew]

but what way of flaying the children is important

khorne probably so don't skin the damn thing because they took the skulls and blood

Slannesh made skin crocs with the flayed skin

tzeetch probably mutated it into a blanket that flies and bites people

and nurgle definitely use the skin for ingredients of a new disease

they have class Dilara

[unborn merlin]

I honestly don’t mind when I see my murder batman legion just act like silly mustache twirling villains tho.

Feel the same way for the Emperor’s Children.

[tall phoenix]

they aint no Red Hood

[mental rose]

yea did a little backtrack i didnt miss anything at all which is strange

i supposed it better to not dwell on it

[mellow knot]

I mean, the Oracles of Change in 'Portents' did a bit more than that.

Honest.

[tall phoenix]

Namedropping your novels is not allowed!

[mellow knot]

They did a lot of standing around on buildings looking cool.

Nobody else is gonna do it for me, I have to do that shit myself. 😄

[tall phoenix]

Aw come on

[mellow knot]

Alas, truth. 🙂

[unborn merlin]

https://tenor.com/view/write-that-down-taking-notes-school-universities-university-gif-17937210

Adding it to the list.

[tall phoenix]

https://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Sarah_Cawkwell

[mellow knot]

Oh hey look, it's me! 😄

[tall phoenix]

Also update your blog damn it!

[unborn merlin]

Sarah’s stuff is pretty cool but I’ve admittedly only read a little. Wanna change that tho!

Just been stuck with War & Peace.

Thank god I’m almost done

[tall phoenix]

Shes one of the few people to actually have fleshed out Huron Blackheart too

[royal egret]

British people and unfortunate surnames contest

[tall phoenix]

AAA-

[mellow knot]

It wasn't my choice of surname, I just married it. 🙂

[royal egret]

That’s love right there

[mellow knot]

Also, it's derived from shipbuilders - as in caulkers. So there you go. Today we have learned!

[mellow knot]

Dear ol' Slobberchops.

[tall phoenix]

GW just shows Huron no respect...

[royal egret]

https://tenor.com/view/rodney-dangerfield-get-no-respect-gif-4892740

[tall phoenix]

Huron legit is just

"Oh this is the worst skull-rack I ever saw!"

turns to Abby

"Oh looks good on you tho!"

[mellow knot]

I've written Huron into three things now that I can think of.

[tall phoenix]

https://tenor.com/view/rolling-my-eyes-eye-roll-gif-12891400

[tall phoenix]

Considering how little he had even before you even thats an achievement

[mellow knot]

'Bitter End', one of the short stories I wrote, was particularly fun to write.

[royal egret]

Unfortunately not a huge fan of the Huron novel we did get but

His shorts are generally pretty good. Also the Pandorax appearance was fun.

Pandorax in general is just wild.

The climax of the opening act is a Baneblade fighting a Bloodthrister in melee

[tall phoenix]

I really do miss mid-2000's 40k novels' vibes just for stuff like that alone.

[royal egret]

Not all the Warzone books were good

But man some of them got nutty

[tall phoenix]

[tall phoenix]

I still cant believe you went:

"Do you know what needs a backstory? This ugly space monkey"

[royal egret]

Forbidden nugget

Ah yes thank you GW

I didn’t realize it had wicked talons

[tall phoenix]

forget the talons

this is meme material

[royal egret]

Tfw your pet daemon warp thing starts calling your enemies slurs

[tall phoenix]

they also did this stupid breakdown artwork with other faction leaders and man its just lmao

[royal egret]

https://tenor.com/view/sweats-gif-25346666

Huron fears no man, but he doesn’t wanna be cancelled

[tall phoenix]

No sane chaos lord would 🙏

well "sane"

[royal egret]

Huron when Abaddon gives him a Blackstone Fortress: “Fuck I didn’t get him anything. Now I’m gonna look like an asshole.”

[tall phoenix]

I forgot, he gave it to him because it was "useless" right, or was it just to get his "loyalty".

[mellow knot]

Actually

[royal egret]

It’s not as useful with just one

[mellow knot]

That story was born out of a pressing need to understand what was in the bottle that Jon Sullivan drew on Huron's belt on the cover art. 😄

[tall phoenix]

LMAO

[royal egret]

And Abaddon knows most of the biggest secrets, but at the end of the day the Red Corsairs are the second biggest warband

So it pays to have some leverage I guess

[tall phoenix]

also yeah one of the earlier source book says they are as big as a 30k Legion which is a bit 💀

[royal egret]

he’s a busy boy

[mellow knot]

They are made up of all the dropouts of any other number of legions. It's like a club for wastrels and ne'er do wells.

[tall phoenix]

they are like the Black Legion but cooler because red

[mellow knot]

Makes them go faster, obvs

[royal egret]

He attracts a lot of fallen marines from loyalist chapters too

[tall phoenix]

Yeeee

[tall phoenix]

Also still cant believe this

all that for some glass

[mellow knot]

Jon and I had 3am email conversations about that bottle,

I kid you not.

[tall phoenix]

LOL

I really do like some of Jon's work but man his art is weird

im not the biggest fan of his photoshop style

its definitely a look though

[unborn merlin]

The Black Legion is like that ex that can never move on and is still trying to dethrone Big E. The Corsairs are ballers that plunder booty and look cool doing it.

[royal egret]

Imagine failing your melta save

[mellow knot]

I will forever adore my TGR cover. ❤️

[mellow knot]

They are out there having a good time.

[unborn merlin]

Just a bunch of silly guys.

[tall phoenix]

they are literally blackjack and hookers

[tall phoenix]

He made an entire artstation page for it

Sucks that in the actual cover its barely even shown lol

[digital saffron]

We learn in fall that he gave it to him since he tried experimenting with controlling it and fucked up yeah?

[mellow knot]

Ah, the hamster drier. ❤️

[tall phoenix]

I THINK so?

i 100% remember the hand-over happening due to something being wrong with the fortress while it still functioned to a degree

[royal egret]

Remember kids, don’t charge a dude with a fucking melta from the war crime chapter

[tacit raft]

nah, thats a healing tool, apothecaries know how to treat injuries

[mellow knot]

This is just a particularly eager apothecary. The equivalent of a junior doctor going into his first week on A&E.

Or one who's just finished his first week on A&E.

[iron ore]

Ahhh my childhood pfp on Internet forums

[mellow knot]

I APPROVE

[iron ore]

I’ve prob told you this before in here but just know that cause of your books I have a red corsairs warband and a few silver skulls in my deathwatch lol

[mellow knot]

Please do not hesitate to engage in ego stroking any time. I am a fragile, delicate author and it does me good

[iron ore]

This order I made in January was the culmination of childhood memories hitting me

Think I was 13 when the gildar rift came out

[brittle tapir]

if i say your book is good will you write in my custom character Ogmyn Mcfister in your next story

[mellow knot]

Hah, they’d never make it past the editing process, alas!

[unborn merlin]

Dats a humie way of tinkin’.

Gotta believe

[slow pilot]

@tall phoenix kingmaker is really good

[tall phoenix]

Told you so like 5 times

sweet vindication

[severe trail]

goated book tbh

[slow pilot]

I'm at the part where they are learning from the guy so she can't take his place

[drowsy urchin]

Finished Giantslayer last night. Really really enjoyed all the William King's books and now I'll be moving to the first piece by Nathan Long, a bit vary of the change of the writer but I've heard good things about his stories

[noble dirge]

artstation page? link, please?

[tall phoenix]

https://jonsullivanart.artstation.com/

He has a TON of stuff

The mid 2000's works he has is a bit lower in the page where he used photoshop super heavily in the 40k covers

[noble dirge]

awesome thanks

[tall phoenix]

[forest spruce]

Throne of light has beeen finished

Im cruising through these books now

[proper portal]

New Ufthak Blackhawk book is great. Its Orkz vs Dark Eldar, aka TOIM TA STOMP DA GITZ WHATZ IN NEED OF A STOMPIN DA MOST!!

[drowsy urchin]

Maybe not the best place to ask for one

[wise yew]

Um buddy if I were you I would delete this because piracy isn't really appreciated here

One of the rules

[mental rose]

aw shit alright thnx man

[mellow knot]

Thank you for deleting and supporting your impoverished BL authors a little bit more.

[unkempt wren]

Author work hard... not talkin bout GW... most of time they do plot holes an just... urgh... not wanna talk bout it

[unkempt wren]

Ulgo read one book of horus heresy... they did nothin interesting. Sat aroun in ships bickerin

[hot mauve]

Just finished Infinite and the Divine…. Man, that really was as good as people said…. A couple points off the audio narration, but the book itself was quite spectacular

[tall phoenix]

theres a reason its one of the top 40k books in general, a xenos one especially lol

[hot mauve]

Yeah, I don’t care as much about the xenos books, more into the militarum stuff, but enough people wouldn’t shut up about it and they were definitely right

[tall phoenix]

Variety is the spice of life.

[hearty niche]

This twice dead king book is good

[hearty niche]

Disagree, voice acting was spectacular imo, loved the accents of the necrons

[hot mauve]

I actually strongly disliked the necron accent, ESPECIALLY for ||the deceiver|| , but i think it’s just a taste thing

[gritty epoch]

hello, do i need to read xenos malleus hereticus before Magos, the new one of dan abnett ?

[hybrid turtle]

Yeah definitely

[wide mica]

I'm torn, I want the new Lelith book and I could get the Limited Edition version, I could afford it. But I hate the look of it.

It's another case of BL making a Limited Edition version that looks worse than the regular version

[tall phoenix]

get regular, thats what im doing

the special edition one looks garbage

[wide mica]

Yea

It sucks, you're paying more for a fancy cover

But the fancy cover looks worse than the regular

I'm a damn magpie if you gave me a cool fancy cover I would pay more, like Honourbound

[tall phoenix]

[severe trail]

yeah ngl I don't want to buy another mike brooks character book

after reading The Lion one and the Alpha Legion book

but hey maybe I'm wrong and it'll be good

yeah I don't have high hopes ngl Brooks can only write orks

[royal egret]

I’m always gonna be biased against brooks but I hope he can at least write Drukhari right

Somehow I doubt it but

We’ll see

[warm lion]

Is cadian blood any good

[wide mica]

Tastes as good as any other kind of blood

[cerulean peak]

it's a nice read

Features Cadians vs Nurgle forces

[warm lion]

Was thinking ab grabbing it on audible thanks

These are the only books I have so far the ones ive listened to have been very enjoyable

[hearty niche]

Rate the book haul

[warm lion]

Steel tread looks cool

[iron ore]

Steel tread is a pgood book

[unborn merlin]

https://tenor.com/view/chiyo-azumanga-daioh-dance-awesome-dancing-gif-16829729177682416663

ABSOLUTE PEAK

[hearty niche]

The manga is thicker than both warhammer books combined

[proper portal]

Finally finished Da Big Dakka, and man it was cool

Hope we get a new Ufthak book eventually, and more Snaggi too, that grots fun

Ufthak is as cool as Ghaz and Bludflagg

[vale wren]

Tfw the enemy ships just scream so hard your head explodes

Who let Abnett cook

[smoky bronze]

its kinda like if you put too much gain on a signal before putting it through some audio equipment but the equipment is a person

you let the magic smoke out (in 40k it smells like pork not rare earth metals)

[proper portal]

Noise marine ship? I'll take it, but I'd prefer it if they were using the classic guitars

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HsGRsDe3iRw

[vale wren]

Unspecified

[vale wren]

I'd say in general in Guard books the flavour of chaos is rarely specified

cultists are cultists are cultists

they are extremely rarely fighting marines

[proper portal]

It could be Slaaneshi cultists doin their thing

[drowsy urchin]

https://x.com/warhammer/status/1797598886925631539?t=xPVup2dgwC8nxQr6wzBv9A&s=19

Warhammer Official (@warhammer) on X

Discover your new favourite Sister of Battle in the Black Library novel, Daemonbreaker, and take a look at her new miniature too!

https://t.co/YPX28Di75t

#WarhammerCommunity

Twitter · Jun 3, 2024, 11:59 AM

Oh that's cool

[wide mica]

Same author who wrote the Usurla Creed novel

[tall phoenix]

Rare female author moment

[unkempt wren]

Huh... they any good?

[severe trail]

Ursla creed novel is pretty good

[unkempt wren]

[dreamy ledge]

MAG REFRENCE?!!?!

OOO that loosk balelr

looks*

OH HER

i forgot that lady existed

[quasi jetty]

Hey there ypu book peeps I uh have never read a wh book any recommendations on where to start?

[random marlin]

Yes! Check the pinned comments, some good recommendations there. 🙂

[quasi jetty]

Ty!

[proper portal]

She looks extra angry, even by SOB standards lol nice

[warm lion]

Just started fall of cadia

45 mins in so far liking it

[tall phoenix]

its good

[unkempt wren]

What is name of book?

Want to make better lore behind characters

[tall phoenix]

Fall of Cadia

[unkempt wren]

Thank you!

[tall phoenix]

[gritty epoch]

I m currently reading it too but what are abadon hound?
urkhantos refers to it quite often but without description. I didnt find any image on google.

I assume it s the name of his army ? Or maybe just litteraly DOGS?

[drowsy urchin]

you mean Hounds of Abaddon?

[gritty epoch]

Yes

Mb i dont read it in english

[drowsy urchin]

ah, yeah. You've found them now I presume

[gritty epoch]

Yes ahahahah

Thank you

[drowsy urchin]

no problem

[umbral storm]

are there any books that take place before the horus heresy (that are not part of the horus heresy series)?

[royal egret]

Valdor Birth of the Imperium

And most of the primarch books

Sigismunds character book too

Some of Luther’s too

Basically the character books mostly

[brittle tapir]

that one last church story

[sacred prairie]

I love the Ork book Da Big Dakka

[shrewd silo]

Any one know if BL is rereocoding guants ghosts 13 salvations reach?

[drowsy urchin]

Usually information like that isn't known before the release of such a thing is imminent, I wouldn't hold my breath waiting for one

Is the original one that bad you'd want another one?

I'm not that far into the series myself

[sour socket]

I just finished Assassinorum: Kingmaker today

Such a good book

[warm lion]

Im on chapter 17 so far on fall of cadia

[sour socket]

I need to read it soon

Though I think I'll go with Horus Rising next

Or some other Knight/Titan book

[warm lion]

It narrates a decent amount of different perspectives but overall ive found it very enjoyable

[hearty niche]

This oltyx guy from twice dead king is pretty cool

I won’t lie and say I wasn’t expecting the silent king the whole time reading these books cause I read “king” with necron and thought only the highest level

[sour socket]

So far I think that Robert Rath is my favorite Black Library author, I definetly will need to check out that book

[warm lion]

Yea he's really good

[proper portal]

After reading Gaunts Ghosts, I am realizing I accidentally made a perfect Major Rawne

[tall phoenix]

https://tenor.com/view/nod-dutch-van-der-linde-red-dead-redemption2-rdr2-gif-20932520

[proper portal]

Just one last job, then we're going to Space Tahiti

[sour socket]

I need to finally finish that series

[warm lion]

Only read like half of the first book in the series so far and i have 2 more books to go

[hearty niche]

you could probably make a children's story from the ork perspective if you made the violence looney tunes-esque

[tall phoenix]

Bold of you to assume the violence in said ork books already isn't looney tunes'y

[broken yarrow]

is the commissar cap modded?

[tall phoenix]

its a cosmetic

theres no mods for those

minus View All iirc

[iron ore]

https://www.humblebundle.com/books/stories-from-worlds-warhammer-2024-black-library-books?mcID=102:6660a7a07e32e16e610fb1de:ot:5d5eaacb7ee2c9297f603548:1&linkID=6660a7a259dd5e852202004b&utm_campaign=2024_06_06_storiesfromworldswarhammer2024blacklibrary_bookbundle&utm_source=Humble+Bundle+Newsletter&utm_medium=email

[slow pilot]

the warhammer show might be canceled meaning GW was forced to change the lore for nothing 💀

[severe trail]

Nothing indicates that

[slow pilot]

rumors henry wants to walk

[severe trail]

Rumor this rumor that get back to me with a source

Tbh

[slow pilot]

thats why i said might be

[severe trail]

And no 4chan isn’t a source

Idk

The custodes change was prolly a while coming anyways

Lol

Considering the BL teams initial opinion on it

Not like it changes anything either really when it comes to the lore

[iron ore]

This is a 4chan rumor peddled by arch, there is no other indication this is what’s happening other than clickbait bs

[severe trail]

Oh is it from that leak lmao

💀

[iron ore]

Yes lol

[severe trail]

The one like a

Fucking month ago

[iron ore]

The giant wall of bullshit

[digital saffron]

I'm sure the major celebrity would risk his entire career by getting mad about women

[severe trail]

Custodes being able to be female retcon also changed literally nothing besides the source of recruits being referred to as sons before

Now it’s just children of Terran nobles

[iron ore]

Also saying GW was “forced” to change the lore is ridiculous

[severe trail]

Bcs custodes use a completely dif process from marines anyways

Marines are crude and mass produced

Compared to whatever the fuck gene alchemy is

[digital saffron]

Yeah like

If Amazon did anything

It'd be confined to the show

[severe trail]

Custodes don’t have implanted organs lol

Which is always funny to think about

[digital saffron]

Ykno like how every piece of 40k content is basically self contained

[severe trail]

Rulebooks smh

[digital saffron]

Is self contained the right phrase, my brain is losing words to sleepiness

[iron ore]

The show is prob stalling bc GW wants one trillion dollars like they’re Dr Evil

lol

[digital saffron]

But Siggy, the BRAVE master Cavill rejects the wokes!

[digital saffron]

Btw

Didn't that 4chan "leak" have shit like

[severe trail]

Is wrong already? Yes

[digital saffron]

"chaos dwarfs won't be a thing because they're anti semitic"
Before saying Araby would be a thing

Or was that a different one

[severe trail]

Dif one around the same time iirc

[digital saffron]

Aw shucks

It was pretty funny though

[severe trail]

My favorite shitty 4chan leak is the 9e space marine civil war one

With the uh primaris firstborn executioner

And his rule was called death to the firstborn

Idk I have a very low opinion of 4chan “leaks” in general especially when they get peddled by certain people lol

[digital saffron]

I mean we have like, the cursed city one

[severe trail]

Yeah

And for every cursed city and 9e codex leak

We have 1 trillion dogshit ones

[digital saffron]

Gotta peddle that narrative for that juicy outrage bait content though

[severe trail]

Has anyone here read Deathworlder

[digital saffron]

Not here but I know someone that really likes it/the author

Also probably Dilara

[random marlin]

I’m in the process of reading it.

[severe trail]

is it good?

at least so far?

[tall phoenix]

Its fine

I like the book but its literally an action movie plot of catachans travelling through a dead world turning into a nit shithole for a mcguffin recovery mission

you can take a guess to what happens when they finally get to said mcguffin

[random marlin]

The mcguffin thing is really overused in a lot of BL books... That was my first thought when starting Deathworlder, "this again?". And at the beginning there are a lot of clichés (does this word work in English too) which had me worried, however I'm at a third of the novel and I feel like it gets better, I think the author does a good job with the way the Tyranid invasion/assimilation is described.

Still, I'd like a novel one day which treats it as an Annihilation kind of thing, focusing more on the existential horror of seeing the world being transformed by the spores, even if it's done a little here.

(and I haven't finished the book, so maybe this aspect will be accentuated)

[sour socket]

I still think that cliches can be executed well, even if they kinda make you know what will happen later in the book

[random marlin]

I agree, and maybe it's a personal taste kind of thing too. I enjoy being surprised by a novel and not having the feeling that it's predictable or using the same concepts over and over. I find the Ciaphas Cain books very fun but also very formulaic for instance, so I'd rather read one from time to time rather than several in a row.

[sour socket]

I've recently read "Ghosts of Barak-Minoz" by Guy Haley, and I've found that the story was quite formulaic, but it was really enjoyable and still kept me on my toes although I was pretty sure what was going to happen by the end

[tall phoenix]

The descriptionary stuff and the general idea of the book is good.

Its more that its not even a spoiler at this point that you know the mcguffin is gonna be some overblown huge "its gonna change the Imperium!" effect then get destroyed at the last second for some random reason lol

This is done so much that im just tired of it. Probably the only part of the book i rolled my eyes at.

[wide mica]

Witchbringer ending with the MC saying the words ||"I saw how the Imperium dies"||

We will never hear from these characters or about this again.

[tall phoenix]

With the characters I kind of dont mind it because this is a big galaxy with various characters and one-shots are to be expected. But I do agree sometimes the "it was all for nothing" shit gets really boring.

[wide mica]

I meant more the notion of how what she saw will probably never be mentioned again.

[tall phoenix]

Oh that lmao

yeah that also enters the mcguffin territory

[sour socket]

My favorite thing about GW and 40k is when they mention with like two throwaway lines something thath would change the whole 40k universe or some great threat and then never mention it again

[wide mica]

Oh, I just looked up the Author for Witchbringer and apparently the line is a reference to something he specifically has in mind and hopes to write about in future

So we will see where that goes if GW lets him

[tall phoenix]

Fingers crossed, even if it still doesnt amount to much 💀

[cerulean peak]

Battle for the Abyss 🙂

The epitome of pointless

Bonus: it's HH

Also; apparently my copy of dawn of war is a "fixed" one

No backflipping termies, no multilasers and the kids are throwing rocks to the eldar driving the tank which causes him to crash

[tall phoenix]

[cerulean peak]

Tbh so far it's not that bad. Pretty standard 40k story. Not the best pensmanship but it's readable. ||it'll probably change once the real action starts||

So far Goto beats Thorpe

[unkempt wren]

Why are most books filled with opened endings? Like just finish the story AND STOP OPENING UP MORE SERIES

[severe trail]

so they can write another book

[unkempt wren]

Kill me

[severe trail]

later

[warm lion]

finished fall of cadia

enjoyable read

[sour socket]

Has anyone read Rites of Passage?

[fluid yarrow]

A new 40K book is coming out this month
It's a Death Korp novel

[sour socket]

Isn't it the Siege of Vraks?

[fluid yarrow]

Yes. A Death Korp novel.

[wide mica]

Yea it went up for preorder today

[fluid yarrow]

I'm sure Pandaemonium will be out any day now

[sour socket]

Well at least it's about a well-known and somewhat important event

Though we could use some more guard novels about regiments other than Cadians and DKoK

[fluid yarrow]

I think I'm going to get stuck into the Warhammer Crime section. I read Bloodlines a little while ago and quite enjoyed it.

[tall phoenix]

Steve Lyons be like

Lets write a book about an event thats literally been documented to the most minute detail

"Learn how the Siege of Vraks REALLY wen-"

WE KNOW.

[frigid osprey]

Yeah but they can sell this one

[tall phoenix]

even Krieg fans didnt like his last book

which was also extremely creatively titled Krieg™️

[fluid yarrow]

Searching his name on BL... its like DK is just all him. Did he call dibs, or does no one else want to touch it?

[tall phoenix]

Authors are allowed to submit book ideas

he has enough of a reputation-ish so he more or less is the only guy that writes about Krieg

[fluid yarrow]

That doesn't sound like something you'd brag about tho

[tall phoenix]

LOL

Yeah his books are either Ok or extremely Passable

his only book that ever gets praise is Dead Men Walking (which i never really cared about) and its from like 1942

aka 2010

[fluid yarrow]

I started the Krieg novel that has them fighting Necrons in a hive city, do not remember the name. Did not finish. DK were so boring I was rooting for the skeles.

[wide mica]

The before times

[tall phoenix]

thats...Dead Men Walking

LOL

[fluid yarrow]

But yeah, if Dan could stop fucking with whatever he doing now and finish up and bring the Pandaemonium/King In Yellow plot into the new lore that would be greatttttttttt.

[tall phoenix]

the fact that it took like 10 years to write the sequel as Penitent to the first Bequin novel has me with less copium 💀

also i guess finishing up Siege of Slopterra

[fluid yarrow]

That's fine didn't Pentinent come out about ten yea...
checks notes
... 2021.
Oh no.

[tall phoenix]

[wide mica]

Obviously they're waiting until the Agents of the Imperium Codex gets announced, then they'll release the third Bequin novel and a Bequin model

[cerulean peak]

krieg mumble mumble shovels more mumbles steve lyons!

Even tho i've never read an actual book sentence where kriegers use shovels

[sour socket]

That meme's been fucked to death

And honestly it should work for most infantry guard regiments, cause infantry digs trenches, and for trenches you need shovels

[warm lion]

I read the krieg book it was the very first warhammer book i got it wasnt bad imo

[tall phoenix]

yeah its not bad its just okay

it just gets very boring in some parts

[warm lion]

Yea

I liked how it showed the stark contrast between the kriegers and cadians and how robotic they seem from other guard povs

And i enjoyed all the bits about Jurten & the initial war on krieg but all the other stuff was boring

[brittle tapir]

the shovel thing is because most krieg fans only know that they're WW1 themed therefore trenches

[iron ore]

https://www.humblebundle.com/books/stories-from-worlds-warhammer-2024-black-library-books?hmb_source=&hmb_medium=product_tile&hmb_campaign=mosaic_section_1_layout_index_1_layout_type_threes_tile_index_2_c_storiesfromworldswarhammer2024blacklibrary_bookbundle

Friendly reminder the warhammer humble bundle is out and it’s great

18 bucks to a good cause for 27 books

[sour socket]

God damn

I wanted to read a few of them, that's great value

[drowsy urchin]

No audio

https://tenor.com/view/anger-angry-break-gif-19098093

[severe trail]

God the Vraks book

is gona be fucking weird

we already know so much about Vraks lol

bcs forgeworld campaign

[uneven crane]

Are the Iron Warrior books good?

[frigid osprey]

If anything Kriegers use bayonets way more than shovels

[frigid osprey]

I've only read Storm of Iron and it kicked ass

[tall phoenix]

Storm of Iron and Siege of Castellax are great reads, highly recommend it

[uneven crane]

Poggers

[warm lion]

is the kasrkin book any good

[tall phoenix]

Its very bad do not read it lmao

Opening is kasrkin going around a bumfuck desert doing nothing (not even fighting their main enemy the tau), some Dune rip-off sequences, then the other latter half of the book is them walking around a Necron Tomb also doing nothing.

Then in classic 40k fashion everyone dies in the end

[royal egret]

Very boring book

Complete waste of any concept, they needed a Kasrkin book for the release and jfc did they go to the wrong place

[tall phoenix]

That author's previous work with the Space Sharks also sucked but this book was just so bad.

[warm lion]

Welp i just saved me an audible credit

Is there any other books that show some kasrkin love or any good astra militarum novels thats not gaunts ghosts (i have the first 3 books still need to finish those) or caiphas cain or malleus (that book was a good read)

[severe trail]

It being worse then the space shark books is impressive

[tall phoenix]

• Minka Lesk: The Last Whiteshield (Omnibus) by Justin D. Hill
• Fall of Cadia
• The Last Chancers (Omnibus)
• Baneblade
• Dead Men Walking
• Deathworlder
• Gunheads
• The Macharian Crusade Omnibus
• Yarrick: The Omnibus
• Honourbound

the top two especially got some kasrkin and other Cadian stuff

[warm lion]

I finished fall of Cadia but I'll check out Minka Lesk

Ty

[tall phoenix]

Np

Its basically Cadians: The Book so

[warm lion]

https://tenor.com/view/fall-of-cadia-cadia-battlefleet-gothic-gif-25242351

[proper portal]

What books should I read that detail the Armageddon wars with the orks?

I read the Ghaz book and loved it so anything involving dat git is great

[royal egret]

Helsreach

[warm lion]

i watched the helsreach animation series it was really good tbh

but its more about the black templars

[tall phoenix]

well yeah its a BT book series

[unborn merlin]

Just started Hammer and Anvil.

Miriya my beloved 🖤

[random marlin]

That's kind of the point actually. Just like in Starship Troopers, you're not supposed to root for them, or you're at least meant to wonder if you're supposed to. The necrons ||are more sensible than the Krieg in this story, even offering the Imperium time to leave the planet, which is ignored||. The whole book is about criticizing the heroic self-sacrifice which is usually shown as something good in most BL books.

Well, that's what I thought after reading it a few years ago. And then I read the more recent novel Krieg and the short story Less than Human by the same author about Krieg too, where I feel Kriegsmen are shown in a positive light at face value, with no satirical aspect whatsoever, and I just don't get what Stephen Lyons is trying to do with them anymore. I probably won't read the Siege of Vraks if there's no satirical or thought-provoking elements to it too.

[proper portal]

I love that Necrons can be whatever they need to for the story. If they need to be soulless killers like the Terminator, boom. If they need to have actual humanity hidden under there? Boom.

Room for both kinds of em out there, lore wise, and plotwise its nice they can do whatever cool/spooky stuff is most effective

Can't wait until Mechanicus 2 comes out and we get a full campaign of em

[drowsy urchin]

I just wish the animators kept the stylized look from the first episodes instead of ditching it by the end, by then it just looks your basic SFM slop. It's still good though

[thick roost]

im running out of ciaphas cains.

[drowsy urchin]

Start Gotrek & Felix

[thick roost]

not into warhammer fantasy tbh

[sour socket]

Gotrek & Felix is a great entry point into fantasy imo

Even if you're not really into it I feel like their relation could carry the book

[drowsy urchin]

This

[unborn merlin]

Big audible sale going on.

[wise yew]

Ohh that sounds fun

[unborn merlin]

Almost all BL books are $15 or lower so it’s a nice little sale.

[drowsy urchin]

it's not low enough to be cheaper than buying a bunch of credits still so that's a bummer

[unborn merlin]

I was gonna get some of the Primarch books since they’re under $10.

Heard the Khan’s book was good.

[hearty niche]

I have finished another book.

This one was Assassinorum: Kingmaker by Robert Rath.

My thoughts are... I enjoyed it. I was expecting it to be a bit more dark but is not which is a bit refreshing. It is always cool to hear stories about the knight worlds. The 4 main characters are all enjoyable and feel like actual people. The assassins feel competent even with the flaws they all she. A few bit picks, but that would just be me bringing up small things which aren't that important. Overall, I liked it... 8.7 out of 10

[tall phoenix]

Yeah its prob one of my fav 40k books for that reason

Theres still dark shit in it but like its played more for black comedy which is fun. I appreciate that the story is just written as a fun adventure with violent hijinks

I like dark 40k books but you legit can make a drinking game out of "and in the end everyone died or was traumatized"

[hearty niche]

I was fully expecting ||them to all die after killing the knight. Sorta like how they came to the conclusion that it was probably the assassinorum intent, plus Rath/wrath (I think that was his name, I have a terrible memory) the squad leader's terrible planning and use of the other two on the team. My favorite character was probably the shapeshifter for calling him and the other assassin out for their terrible decisions and behaviors||

[tall phoenix]

The Callidus is so fucking good

Her just not giving a shit and constantly shit-talking the Vindicare before warming up to him is great.

They literally start their meeting by her asking "Why is a numbskull like you leading the mission smh"

[hearty niche]

My favorite part about the early book was when ||The vindicare was like "we need info... seduce him" like it was some 2000s spy/qction movie to which the other two were like ||

[tall phoenix]

Yeah the entire character arc for him just being "You aren't Tom Cruise bro"

[hearty niche]

its awesome that even though they are all very skill full in their own right, they can still be dumb.

[tall phoenix]

Yep people forget assassins can make mistakes in 40k too

they all got a lot of autonomy mentally as well minus Eversors so it makes sense.

[hearty niche]

I loved how the callidus assassin was basically the one calling everyone out. ||Not even the dead ancestors were safe||

[tall phoenix]

Best part of the book, that

[hearty niche]

Yeah, they were my favorite character in the book

[proper portal]

Reposting my Major Rawne of the Tanith First and Only from driptide ||all I did was put a face tattoo on my Dutch and it was perfection ||

[sour socket]

Yeah Asssassinorum Kingmaker was great

But I finished Horus Rising today

I really enjoyed

To me this book had a really tragic subtext knowing to what it will all eventually lead

Especially ||the conversation between Keeler (the remembrancer who saw Samus, i don't remember if it was her name), and Loken just before he got called back onto the embarkation deck||

And it was quite interesting and sad to learn about the interex and how things turned out with them

[tall phoenix]

Horus Rising is great but has some legit eyeroll moments

• "Astartes fighting Astartes? Such a notion was laughable."

• "The Mournival marched like a legion, A BLACK LEGION."

[royal egret]

They weren’t the most subtle with the foreshadowing early on

[severe trail]

As subtle as a warhammer 40,000

[royal egret]

Sigismund: “I fear in the far future there will only be war.”

OMG GUYS

THE THING

Horus saying let the galaxy burn line in the heresy trailer was pretty hard though ngl

LET THE SEAS BOIL

[severe trail]

I soyjacked immediately when they made the EC joke in the khan book

/j

[severe trail]

Tbh it’s a trailer

Not a book

It can be as self referential as it wants

[royal egret]

LET THE STARS FALL

[royal egret]

Me in professor Wraights English class

“Yes professor when you wrote Jaghatai Khan saying ‘I hear you do strange things to your men’ what did you mean by that?”

“Because at that stage Fulgrim was just curing his son’s space cancer.”

“Please be specific”

[tall phoenix]

LMAO

Yeah I dont hate it but like again its super-eyeroll'y

yeah we fucking get it ,40k is gonna happen

same reason i hate when 30k writing goes "THE IMPERIUM WILL BE DESTROYED"

No it wont, MOVE ON.

[hearty niche]

what's the heresy trailer?

[tall phoenix]

https://youtu.be/Cj3ENSVogTo

fun fact, Horus is voiced by the Bully Ogryn personality's voice actor

[hearty niche]

oh is this for the table top?

[royal egret]

Yeah

It was for when the heresy 2.0 got announced officially

[hearty niche]

snazzy i didn't know there was a trailer

o

[tall phoenix]

GW always makes cool CGI trailers for things

its here and there tho since these cost a ton of money for obvious reasons

[hearty niche]

too bad they make bad video games

[tall phoenix]

They dont make em

they just hand the license out

[royal egret]

Also there’s a fair amount of good ones

They’ve gotten better about it, for awhile they gave the license to literally anyone and had a lot of bad ones but there seems to be an effort to make more quality ones recently

[sour socket]

Fuck I didn't even catch this one

[tall phoenix]

Only took 30 years but yeah this

they will always sell out and give the majority to shitty mobile card games but sometimes we'll get golden nugets here and there.

[warm lion]

im gonna buy minka lesk book

[sour socket]

I've bought the Warhammer Humble Bundle

Starting Titanicus soon

[warm lion]

Which books came with it?

[sour socket]

https://www.humblebundle.com/books/stories-from-worlds-warhammer-2024-black-library-books

[warm lion]

Tyvm

[sour socket]

I've got lucky cause I've read only Lords of Silence from all of these

[royal egret]

Unironically a lot of those are amazing books

[sour socket]

And considering that I kinda want to get into AoS it was a great deal for me

[royal egret]

Not all but most of the standalones are great

[warm lion]

if theyre not u owe me 10 lasguns

and a pack of lho sticks

[proper portal]

You mean the ORKY GIT who's voice is so orky I had to pick it and make an orky git to play as? Nice, dat git iz bleedin proppa at bein shouty

Dat git went "Imma sneak a bleedin' Orky git inta diz 'ere fing" and da mad lad did it loike a proppa kommando

[native olive]

So how does Humble bundle work? never used it

[iron ore]

It depends, you can set it up that the stuff you buy gets emailed to your kindle device and automatically installed as one option

[native olive]

i mean i see diffrent prices

[iron ore]

Also friendly reminder to whoever buys this bundle that many of these books are the first books in trilogies and series so there’s even more fun to be had

[iron ore]

You choose how much you want to pay, I think 18 USD is the minimum to unlock every book

[native olive]

ah cool\

[native olive]

Thank you for the post, this is great. Took me a lil bit to get my kindle hooked up but its goin now. 🙂

[sour socket]

Np, but all the thanks should go to @iron ore cause I'd have never found about about the bundle if not for him posting it a few days ago

[unkempt wren]

Nope, not buying anymore wh30k books, not my kind of jazz.

[unborn merlin]

Reading do be hard.

[gritty epoch]

Is the lord of silence any good ?

[tall phoenix]

Its a super good chaos book

displays the Death Guard pretty well too

[sour socket]

I've found it pretty good

Not my favorite by any means, but it was really an enjoyable read

A great insight into the Death Guard, both from a perspective of the Unbroken, and from a perspective of an outsiders

And it had wonderfully disgusting descriptions of plagues and diseases

[tall phoenix]

I love opening up a book and reading about how someone has a big maggot clogging their throat.

[gritty epoch]

Is it begginer friendly or should i keep it for later ?

[tall phoenix]

All you need to know about it while reading it is the basic lore of the Death Guard, and that it takes place Post-Rift/Breaking of Cadia

[gritty epoch]

Okay thank you, i have almost finish the fall of cadia i'll maybe take this one

[tall phoenix]

If you want a rundown on the Death Guard i can do it here, their lore is REALLY nice but basic.

[gritty epoch]

Yeah for sure!!

[tall phoenix]

Okay so basically

Death Guard in 30k during the Great Crusade are almost literally exactly the same as their chaos counterparts later, just loyalist. Slow moving, dont repair their armor much, dirty af, LOVE chemical warfare etc

Mortarion their Primarch hates the Emperor for stealing his kill when he was about to strike down his evil alien father who ruled the toxic planet Barbarus and later on entirely joins Horus because hes a goofball.

When they are heading to Terra to join + begin the Siege, Morty's second-in-command Typhon sabotages the ship and they get stuck in the Warp cursed by a Nurgle plague he invited to infect everyone. Morty has no choice but to accept and succumb to the plague and accepts Nurgle as his patron.

This is basically the birth of Plague Marines as a thing and following the fail at Terra they basically all fuck off together and settle on a planet on the Eye of Terror known very creatively as the Plague Planet.

The only other thing you really need to know is the Death Guard are not shattered as a legion at all and act very cohesively by being banded together as a proper chaos army. Also theres two sides to them where some support Typhus (was named Typhon before he ascended to what he is now) and ones who are loyal to Morty

and thats kind of it

[royal egret]

The Death Guard are also and were extremely loyal to Mortarion, especially the ones from his homeworld because of what he did in saving them, even after they fell.

[tall phoenix]

^

[royal egret]

They didn't shatter because of that

Like basically every other legion to some extent, Typhus mostly attracts younger Death Guard recruits, which is touched on in the novel.

There are some who have left or work for themselves or Abaddon but not in any large numbers and most non DG Plague Marines were never Death Guard or are newer recruits.

This all gets touched on in the novel to some extent but its good to have some extra context.

[tall phoenix]

Yeah they are REALLY simple as Evil Marines But Plague, but it works in their favor, there isnt much you really need to know, they do what they say on their storepage.

[royal egret]

Also for the love of god, be aware theres a subtext and what they're saying isn't neccsarily true at face value even to themselves.

They're heavily corrupted inviduals, the novel goes into this but

Just be aware

[tall phoenix]

Ye the book's point is that "nihilism is good, just give up and accept being a rotten corpse"

which is completely false obvs, its to show their point of view

[royal egret]

The insidous part of how nurgle corrupts, sometimes at least, is through apathy. You stop feeling the pain and eventually you don't care.

Which goes into nihilism as said, and you're just nothing eventually,

Which is why when people bring up how Nurgle “loves” his subjects, regardless of if he does or not it’s an abusive sick “love”

Which the book illustrates pretty well

[tall phoenix]

https://tenor.com/view/its-literally-fun-fun-enjoyable-kevin-smith-the-imdb-show-gif-11080302

[hearty niche]

2well yeah nurgle's a big mean jerk

he makes people agonizingly sick and goes "ayy holmes! Wouldn't you like for that pain to go away? I got you ese! just bend ye ol knee!"

[gritty epoch]

when you say that there are 2 sides, they are literally separate? or it remains a single legion but with 2 different ideals inside

[tall phoenix]

No its more of a political thing

"We support this guy more even tho we are on the same side, you guys trust that guy because you like his ideals more."

[royal egret]

It’s also worth noting Typhus has a small percentage of the overall legion

It’s one of the bigger Warbands but it’s not that big compared to the legion

Also Mortarion rarely leads them all and directs them all

They mostly are separated into Warbands who do their own thing

It’s just all are loyal to Mortarion

Except Typhus

[tall phoenix]

Yeah like Eternal said Typhus' followers are the more newer Plague Marines who rally to the side of the "younger" idealist because he clearly can see the future better than the old timer.

hence why i said its more "political"

you see a lot of examples of this IRL lol

[gritty epoch]

Yeah i see, i love faction inside faction

Thank you for all the data guys really cool

[tall phoenix]

Always happy to help

[gritty epoch]

like the struggle to rally abaddon between the different factions of chaos inside his own black legion

[tall phoenix]

Yeah a bit just smaller

the Black Legion is extremely massive, since the core is made up of Black Legionaries loyal to Abaddon then it breaks down into many many warbands that has his colors alongside other chaos marines that just join him for their own reasons

[royal egret]

The Black Legion also has examples of every single type of marine you can think of directly loyal to Abbadon

Tsons sorcerers and rubrics, Plague Marines, Noise Marines, Khornate Zerkers, Obliterators, and so on

All legions, and some.

[sour socket]

There was this fragment near the beginning of the book, where Vorx was getting annoyed at some fluid constantly flooding his lungs, but then he remembered that he thought some Nurgle's 'gifts' he's gotten before were poor, and they proved useful later

Then he apologises to a Nurgling he's carrying, which proceeds to shit on his armor, which "counts as forgiveness, probably"

I think that sums up DG mentality pretty well

[royal egret]

Yarp

[cerulean peak]

Nurgle also seems to be the source of their apathy. In the plague wars trilogy you have some plague marines who are cut off from the warp at some point and they realise what they have become / can feel all the gifts of nurgle

Sucks to be them during this moment

[iron ore]

I think the most "unified" CSM are Death Guard and Word bearers but the WB are always plotting against each other for political clout

Red Corsairs are the 2nd biggest CSM legion behind the black legion iirc

[royal egret]

Second biggest warband I think is the distinction

[hushed aurora]

Thoughts on the Iron Kingdom?

[tall phoenix]

Very passable book.

It doesnt exactly do anything exciting and the main plot of the book with the knight world is not interesting

[cerulean peak]

Any recommendation to "wash my palate" of DoW? It's horrible but I want to finish what I started

[tall phoenix]

I wanna say try William King's Farseer

[cerulean peak]

https://tenor.com/view/green-mile-im-tired-boss-michael-clarke-duncan-gif-2375696290766999196

[tall phoenix]

one of the oldest 40k books in existence but also prob one of the best

[cerulean peak]

Me reading the book

[tall phoenix]

LMFAO

Im sorry but we warned you as best we could

[cerulean peak]

I will come out of that ordeal... changed

[tall phoenix]

as I was saying though uh

[cerulean peak]

i read that one a month ago

[tall phoenix]

DAMN IT

its prob one of my fav 40k books

and one of THE rarest examples of a non-canon one

[cerulean peak]

I really enjoyed ||the birth of slaanesh and the noise marine PoV||

[tall phoenix]

I think why i like it so much in general is because im a sucker for simple adventure books.

Adds up since this is King who wrote the first batch of Gotrek and Felix novels, the vibe is right there

[cerulean peak]

Yea it's a straight forward story but it was quite enjoyable

Maybe we'll get a follow up in the next 20 years

[tall phoenix]

You joke but it actually kinda got a follow up with the Ynnari recovering a crone sword (one of the Slaanesh killing mcguffin weapons) from the climax planet.

That mcguffin was the entire reason that book was labelled non-canon years ago before they existed as a faction

[cerulean peak]

I'm not well versed into Eldar lore but yea, when I read about the black sword I told myself "i know that the eldars have OP swords. This must be one of them"

[tall phoenix]

Yeah that was ancient back in the day

[cerulean peak]

And I was expecting some typical Eldar dickery at any moment during the book

Got served in the last few pages

[tall phoenix]

To be fair there WAS literally no other way for them to kill the daemon prince

but also my boy Janus is at least alive just uh in USB form 💀

[cerulean peak]

Well it kinda just ||becoming a meat puppet for the eldar or the daemon|| in the end

I guess one of the two is somewhat less shitty

[tall phoenix]

Considering if he didnt listen to the Farseer they'd all die it was probably the better option.

ACTUALLY speaking of dickery, Pag have you read any of the Vaults of Terra books?

[cerulean peak]

The daemon told him they would have fun times 🙂

I have them but Inhaven't got to read them yet

I tend to save the "i know those books are good" for the last of my backlog

[tall phoenix]

In that case highly recommend it, its a trilogy but its a fun ride. It was praised highly when they first came out one after the other and still hold up really well.

AH I see

[cerulean peak]

Or I read one after a bad book

[tall phoenix]

In that case you know what to do

you can prob actually just read Carrion Throne as is, the trilogy is connected but the first book ends on a pretty open-note

[cerulean peak]

Only a shame that there's more duds/average ones than good ones

[tall phoenix]

Yeah thats what you get when you got so many authors flinging shit at a wall.

rip to all my homies who went into Dawn of Fire expecting a good series

[cerulean peak]

Kek

[tall phoenix]

In your case tho prob best to just handpick a novel that interests you atm and ask if its good here

[cerulean peak]

I've also got my hands on this

[tall phoenix]

Bro I was literally CONSIDERNG recommending that but wasnt sure if you'd dig it

[cerulean peak]

I've never heard of this before but I figured ot would be a change from space marines

Nice

[tall phoenix]

Yeah its one of the best mid 2000's 40k books

and VERY self contained, Shira is a fun protag to follow

the plots are also the classic case of "going from street level crime to literal planet-effecting capital crime"

Just keep in mind the first book is from 2003

🗓️ 👩‍🦼

[iron ore]

Sounds like MY KINDA BOOK

gotta write this down in my big evil list of books to read

[tall phoenix]

[sour socket]

DoW?

[tall phoenix]

Dawn of War

[sour socket]

The game, or is there a book of the same title?

[severe trail]

There is a

very bad set of books

Written by CS Goto

[sour socket]

These are that bad that people warn about them? lol

[severe trail]

it is really really bad lol

Like

by far one of the worst Warhammer books I've ever read

in fact

Its some of the worst books I've ever read

[sour socket]

Is it bad because of the plot, because of the writing, or a combination of both?

[severe trail]

Both, also just getting a ton of lore wrong

[sour socket]

Okay

I guess I'll steer away from it lol

[severe trail]

also infamous for the eldar pilot being sodomized by a stick scene

[cerulean peak]

It's one of the infamous warhammer reads. Which I am subjecting myself to against my better judgment

But experiencing the worst makes the good ones even better

[severe trail]

also backflipping terminators and terminators doing combat rolls

lol

[cerulean peak]

Lest it burns you out

[sour socket]

lol

[cerulean peak]

Yea also termies just riding on the top of Rhinos shooting everything that moves

That just made me think: what if Michael Bay wrote a 40k book / scenario

[tall phoenix]

Also late but the writer literally got fired from talking back to fans over hate mail he received on how shit his books were lol

[hearty niche]

I am well aware of the Ian watson sewer goblin meme but holy fucking shit man, that cunt is a degenerate of the highest calibre. Where does his fetish list even begin? I was reading an assinoroum book that....'thing' wrote

Reading it makes me feel dirty, sexualising surgery and body transformation stuff

[tall phoenix]

you do relaise hes literally a fetish writer right

his previous works pre-40k included things such as the Orgasmo Machine

[hearty niche]

I wish you hadn't told me that

I really wish you didn't

[tall phoenix]

Its not that bad tbh

Its just goofy and weird

[hearty niche]

#fixtf2

[tall phoenix]

tf2 is dead

move on already

[hearty niche]

too financially invested

[tall phoenix]

awful

[timid cove]

Okay so book club. I am not with FS anymore so can't hand out rewards, but if you all are interested I can just find a 40k book per month and we still "read" it together.

just in an unofficial capacity. I need to get back into reading anyways

[drowsy urchin]

[tall phoenix]

ı kind of feel like there isnt enough enticement for it without rewards because you know how people are 💀

[unborn merlin]

https://tenor.com/view/fives-clone-wars-clones-star-wars-im-ready-gif-16330310

Who cares about free swag when you have books.

[timid cove]

yeah I know but can't do much there, not making the money I used to after stopping work at FS haha

I can maybe get authors to come in and chat with us, but that's a big if XDD

[tall phoenix]

Lmaooo yeah no need Aqshy its fine

it happens

[unborn merlin]

Just give it time. There’s been a lot of new readers as of late so if you decide to do it I’m sure you’ll see some retention.

I don’t mind doing it even if there’s only enough people to count on one hand.

[tall phoenix]

Im still waiting for Captain Cawkwell to update her reading list for newcomers

[proper portal]

What are some good books about the Armageddon Wars?

[royal egret]

Helsreach

And the Ghaz book

There’s also an omnibus which has a bunch of stuff

Hit or miss for some

[cerulean peak]

Badab wars and vraks when 😪 (i know there's Lyon's book coming but i have a bad feeling about it)

[tall phoenix]

Yarick's Omnibus

Helsreach is just black templars, if you want the actual war read Yarrick's stuff

[tall phoenix]

A friend of mine pre-ordered it and is gonna pass me a PDF when its out on the 16th (iirc), ill let you know if its good

Im also not expecting much

[royal egret]

Emperors Gift

If you wanna be pedantic

Which I do

[cerulean peak]

I'd rather read about the chaos warbands present vraks than kriegers. Maybe i'll be surprised

[tall phoenix]

Same honestly.

[sour socket]

I'm currently reading 'Titanicus' by Dan Abnett, and I find it pretty good

Altough I can't getover one thing

The fucking warhound titan Morbius Sire

Whenever I read that name I remember all those memes about Morbius and morbing, it takes me so much out of the book lol

[tall phoenix]

Brainrot

I can relate 💀

Even worse since theres some moments where the titan's machine spirit fucks with the pilot and all i can imagine is him "morbing"

[sour socket]

Yeah

[tall phoenix]

My condolences for the rest of the book

[royal egret]

You guys are dumb

It’s obviously a reference to this

Abnett was just ahead of his time

[dreamy nexus]

Do I need to read "Prospero Burns" if ive already read "Thousand Sons"? im trying to read the prosperos sack storyline but im not all that interested in the space wolves. Only asking because ive moved onto the "Scars" book and im at a point where they are mentioning characters and events I think mighta been from Prospero Burns

[royal egret]

It helps

You don’t have to but it does add to the story a lot and later on

[proper portal]

"By the Emperor, it is about to... MORB!!"

Absolute brain rot and Warhammer are in the same parts of the brain for me, I got into it due to the BLUHD RHEAVAN memes

Those bastards would be morbing and stealin everything

[unborn merlin]

It’s not necessary tbh.

I think it’s a pretty solid book but it does drag. Some characters are mentioned from Thousand Sons and it explains certain things a little further.

Also there’s just some plot points that just don’t make a whole lotta sense.

Really dig the beginning of that book tho and the ending concludes on a cool note.

[sour socket]

I can't with this book

First Morbius Sire

Then Gorge Orewelt

It's too close to George Orewell to be coincidence

[slow pilot]

@tall phoenix bro this planet is fucking crazy

they are stuck in the 12 century

[tall phoenix]

Thats almost every knight world

you havent seen nothing yet

[proper portal]

This is even worse than my brain turning Gol Kolea and Dalin into Goku and Gohan.

[sour socket]

The worst thing is that every time that I see it I remember the jorjor wel meme

[sour socket]

Okay, just finished "Titanicus"

I really enjoyed the book, the characters were great, especially Cally Samstag, Varco, Adept Feist, Moderati Tarses and Executor Crusius
The engaments between Titans were really good, I especially liked the one ||where Dominatus Victrix fought a chaos titan in a sandstorm and it's perspective on the Battle of Prospection||
And apart from Morbius Sire and Gorge Orewelt I thankfully haven't found any puns in the text

It was also a really interesting look into an era of 40k in which as far as I know we didn't really know how exactly the Skitarii looked like, so I imagined them pretty wild in this book

And also, is 'Valedor' by Guy Haley a good entry-level Eldar book? I really know only basic stuff about them, and I thought that it would be a good opportunity to learn about them from this book since it came with the Humble Bundle

[royal egret]

Idk about entry level but it is good

[tall phoenix]

Its a very fun book but uh

Path of the Eldar as an entry point is better since it gives a better insight into Eldar society (even if Thorpe the writer cant write combat scenes for shit and Eldar constantly lose), Valedor itself is a lot better tho since its not written by him.

You might just be a bit confused since it has Craftworld Eldar, Corsairs and Drukhari teaming up to destroy two converging hive fleets on a single planet the title is named after, aside from that tho its not that hard to digest, any confusion you have you can just ask here lol

[sour socket]

I guess I'll go with it then

[tall phoenix]

Hope its fun lol

[unborn merlin]

So finished Hammer & Anvil and it was perddy gud!

But then I started Mortis right after and it’s kinda boring…

I did this to myself.

[tall phoenix]

[wide mica]

What’s Mortis?

Is that not Star Wars?

[wise yew]

Seems to be this

[wide mica]

Oh

Never heard of it

I like these two though

[royal egret]

Good cover art, worst siege book imo

[wide mica]

I’d read the book if it was just about those two

[cedar surge]

They seem seconds from being squashed

[wide mica]

Na they’ve got main character energy

Old married couple vibes

“You need to shoot it!!”

“What do you think I’m doing, why do you think I’m pointing my gun at it?”

“SHOOOOT!!”

[maiden bone]

I wonder if it's the heavy focus on Titans that does it. Still haven't finished Titandeath

[brittle tapir]

SHOOT HARDER

[split acorn]

“SHOOT THAT TITAN” “STOP YELLING IN MY EAR”

[wide mica]

“Shoot the Titan!”

“What did you say, I can’t hear anything over the sound of that Titan!?”

“Yes the Titan, shoot the Titan!”

“What?!”

[iron ore]

https://tenor.com/view/hello-there-gif-5677380953331354485

[maiden bone]

[unborn merlin]

https://tenor.com/view/laugh-theyll-make-fun-of-you-make-fun-of-gif-14586168

[tall phoenix]

Mortis is TRASH

[unborn merlin]

Corswain barely gets any screen time man, I just wanted to see him do something 💀

[tall phoenix]

"barely gets any screentime"

wait until you see the DA in the next siege books

[unborn merlin]

https://tenor.com/view/darthvader-nooooo-funny-starwars-no-gif-4920019

I mean, Shiban does some cool stuff…sometimes.

I just don’t understand every writer’s fetish to insert a pointless crime procedural during you know…the biggest battle mankind has ever faced.

Just so much filler to pretty much say. Ooooh watch out, the traitors are getting closer to the inner walls

Then Big E and Horus take shrooms and yell at each other in the void for the tenth time.

It’s fine tho, I’m half way there at least. Then no more HH…at least until they introduce the Iron Cage book series.

[tall phoenix]

I hope you suffer once you get to The End and the Shit

[unborn merlin]

It can’t get any worse than The First Wall right? RIGHT?

[wise yew]

once you decided to read the Homer heresy you have sealed your faith with mid books

so yes it can get worse

[unborn merlin]

You’d think reading all those HH anthologies would’ve prepared me for disappointment.

You know what’s funny. I took a break from Slophammer last month and actually finished War & Peace for the first time. That’s what? A 60+ hr long audiobook if you decide to listen to it?

If you combine The End and the Mid books together that’s about the same length all considering.

Why does The End and the Mid have to be the same length of War & Peace? At least Tolstoy was able to justify the length because it’s actually well written and the characters have payoffs (not gonna even talk about Epilogue 2 because fuck that) 😔

[brittle tapir]

because it's supposed to be the big great ending to the series so dan had to add so much fluff that there's barely anything going on

big books look better to morons

[unborn merlin]

The truth hurts man.

[tall phoenix]

Jay put it a bit harshly but yeah thats basically what it is

on the after-words of the 3rd final book Abnett said his editor (whos Nick Kyme LMAO) told him that- and I quote;

"Write as much as you want, dont worry about the wordcount."

Which is just such a braindead thing to do as an editor, i was like no wonder these books are a chore to get through

[unborn merlin]

They know people will eat up the slop no matter what.

I don’t even think Jay was being harsh. There is a point where when too much of something just spoils the broth. Especially feel the same way about movies. Like I do like Apocalypse Now but do I really need four hours of Apocalypse Now?

[digital saffron]

You will watch 4 hour star wars movie

[tall phoenix]

^

[cerulean peak]

I dropped DoW

Couldn't take it anymore

On to better reads

[tall phoenix]

LMAO

yeah good call, now you know its that bad

[unborn merlin]

https://tenor.com/view/byuntear-fainting-desmaio-mad-crazy-gif-6971696022815179065

[hearty niche]

Come to think of it the Guard probably has a galactic-scale 3M lawsuit going on thanks to how loud 40k battles are

[slow pilot]

prob seconds before they died 💀

[tall phoenix]

Pretty romantic tbh

[severe trail]

LOL

[proper portal]

"SHOOT ALREADY!!"
"I am trying to bloody aim"
"ITS THE SIZE OF A MOUNTAIN WITH A CATHEDRAL ON IT SURROUNDED BY A GIANT BUBBLE JUST SHOOT MORE!!"
"As if me one las will bring it all down"
"SHOOOOOOOOT"
"Don't see you helpin."
"I AM HELPING BY YELLING AT YOU TO SHOOT THE DAMN THING MORE ALREADY!!!"

[tall phoenix]

still one of my fav covers for that reason alone lmao

[iron ore]

I always figured he was yelling “you see that thing? That’s the end and the death you need to shoot at it”

[tall phoenix]

LMAO

SHUT UP

[wise yew]

i want

to read an imperial book

That is like chill but also very dark

something like assassinorum kingmaker

And something that isn't in the ciaphias cain line I know it's funny but

i think I already heard everything I need to hear about the guy

[tall phoenix]

Cain is about as default as you can get yeah

[tall phoenix]

try William King's Farseer

its from like 2000 lol

[wise yew]

This is an imperial book right

oh well gonna trust it

[tall phoenix]

Uh kind of

its basically a washed up rogue trader getting 2 eldar into the eye of terror for a mcguffin on a planet

[wise yew]

Does he shoot them in the end or does he have a surprisingly good ending with them

[tall phoenix]

Uh its a bittersweet ending thats all ill say, the main character Janus is also not that type of douchebag, you'll see

its not a really long book either

[wise yew]

aight good

the character is smart

[iron ore]

When I’m in a being Dilara’s favorite warhammer book competition and my opponent is Farseer by Bill King

[tall phoenix]

look I just like simple 40k books okay

[wide mica]

Oh great, another book I have to buy. Why do you do this to me GW

[royal egret]

Parch?

[wide mica]

Lioness of the Parch, it's a region is Ashqy

The Parch

She's the Lioness of it

[royal egret]

Wait until she meets the Lion of the Moist

[wide mica]

[tall phoenix]

Least horny male 40k fan when they see a female

[royal egret]

Yeah the girls ok.

The Lion though….

[brittle tapir]

ayo?

[unborn merlin]

Lions are wicked cool

[unborn merlin]

It really took them seven hours to get to the Titan fight in Mortis, that’s fucking insane man.

[tall phoenix]

WHY ARE YOU READING MORTIS

[iron ore]

I’ve got 109 pages left in the final word bearers book, what’s next for me?

[tall phoenix]

If you like evil dickheads being evil dickheads I can recommend Day of Ascension

[unborn merlin]

I’m in too deep!

https://tenor.com/view/pull-out-gif-15240199

[royal egret]

Should be called Blueballs: The Book

[unborn merlin]

I ended up finishing like forty something HH books before getting to SoT so my monkey brain tells me…oh…what’s a few more books? You’re almost there champ!

I think this is what specialists call Stockholm syndrome.

[tall phoenix]

Yeah you’re fucked im sorry

[royal egret]

It’s mostly uphill from Mortis though

[brittle tapir]

oh i forgot to say this yesterday when i read it

believe it or not the word warhammer is used in a stephen king book

in italics

as in actually warhammer

but i dont think stephen king knew what warhammer was when he wrote it

because the character who mentions it is a stereotypical nerdy teen during the early 2010's

and the way it's used makes no sense

[brittle tapir]

@tall phoenix please react to this information

[tall phoenix]

Good lord

[brittle tapir]

he knows what warhammer is

but he thinks it's something you can beat apparently

i love this character in general

it's such a "old man doesn't understand teens" character

[tall phoenix]

I mean its a pretty kid-tier dialogue

a child saying that about warhammer as a game is not exactly surprising

[brittle tapir]

dilara

[tall phoenix]

no

[brittle tapir]

the character is like 15

[tall phoenix]

yes, thats a child

[brittle tapir]

still funny

he's like this hackerman character

i'm enjoying this book so far but holy shit it's long

i can't even call it fluffy it's just so minutely detailed

not warhammer related but i'll still simp for it

[tall phoenix]

welcome to cocaine King writing

[digital saffron]

He's obviously talking about widely celebrated halo-killer
Fire warrior

[tall phoenix]

LMAO

[brittle tapir]

i genuinely dont know how IT became so popular

it's like so cocaine fueled

the book i mean

[tall phoenix]

because of the TV series

and its fun

also TIM CURRY

[maiden bone]

This is hilarious. Name of the book?

[wide mica]

See it’s actually very clever writing, King knows that Warhammer is not something to “beat”, so he is using this to signify the character’s wish to never die.

[mellow knot]

I return from the month of hell. Hello Book Readers!

[tall phoenix]

👋

[wise yew]

Welcome back

[mellow knot]

Thankee

[unborn merlin]

https://tenor.com/view/the-return-of-the-king-lord-of-the-rings-ro-tk-title-card-gif-22191928

[iron ore]

Just finished the word bearers omnibus

2nd book was the best of the three

Supporting cast is better than the main character

Really good callbacks to the Horus heresy

The action is insane, the author says that the cast is running out of ammo way too often though

Overall, solid 7.5/10 with the second book being a 9/10 for me
Pros: great horror, over the top gore and action and torture, good mid 2000s grimdark

Highlights: any portrayal of regular humans caught up in the action written by this author in this trilogy is absolutely fantastic

Cons: predictable, main character is cool but just kinda is the same in all three books, supporting cast is better than MC, decent amount of repetition.

Now moving on to a bit of AOS to cleanse my pallete

[brittle tapir]

under the dome

[maiden bone]

Thanks

[cerulean peak]

I agree. Did you enjoy the short story after book 3?

Also; Kol Badar is the best

With the Warmaster of course

[iron ore]

Yea it was fucking terrifying lol

Kol Badar is the best

Just a soldier being a soldier

[cerulean peak]

And loyal to his dark apostle (against all odds for a WB)

I really hated Burias during all 3 books though