40k-book-club

[wide mica]

But it's possibly an answer

[fading shore]

I haven't been this confused since I read some of the later witcher books out of order and I thought maybe the discontinuity might be intentional since the series starts getting into a lot of time travel later on 😄

speaking of which I should probably reread those now that they have actual english editions, the later books I read were somewhat dodgy fan translations from Polish lol

[junior herald]

Hello

If I wanted to start reading books on W40k, what's the best starting point?

And are there series or just standalone books?

[unborn merlin]

Check the pins, server members made a pretty good beginners guide.

There’s plenty of stand-alone of stories for each faction. If you’re absolutely brand new I’d recommend steering away from the Horus Heresy series since it’s like 54 books long lol.

[junior herald]

Awesome, thank you

[leaden acorn]

At least read just the first 3 of horus heresy

If yoire gonna go that route

[brittle tapir]

this

the first three horus heresy books contain a ton of lore that affects the whole setting

plus it's a good starting point for understanding how space marines think

[torpid sequoia]

my favs are 1-5, 7, 9, 12, 14, 18, 20 has a good ending, 24, 26, 39, 41 is aight. For Heresy series

[unborn merlin]

Personally feel like you’re getting an incomplete story if you only read the first three in the HH. They’re great books but to a newcomer it would probably feel pretty daunting, especially trying to figure out where to go from there.

The Night Lords trilogy doesn’t need that much background info and is the standard for Space Marine stories. Helps that it’s self contained as well (imo).

[brittle tapir]

i dont think any book properly introduces you to the setting

you really have to watch videos if you know literally nothing

i say this as somebody who started reading when i knew nothing

i do miss not knowing exactly what every branded unit or vehicle looks like. it was fun to make stuff up in my head

[severe trail]

The core rule book

I'm only half joking

but the 8e core rule book is a good intro

[jaunty stratus]

it is definitely the answer.

[reef jolt]

Thinking of picking up a 40k book and I have a question.
I’m interested in reading about the deathguard and am looking to pick up a copy of The Buried Dagger, but I know it’s like the 51st book or something, do I have to read all 50 books to understand what’s going on or they all their own stories in a collection.

Like I want to pick and choose which legions/factions/stories I want to read about but I don’t want to not understand what’s going on

[severe trail]

For 40k deathguard read lords of silence it’s very good

I highly recommend it

[reef jolt]

The issue is finding a copy. It’s out of stock seemingly everywhere. And on eBay they only sell the limited edition copies for like $700+

I’ll probably just have to cave and read the E-book but call me old fashioned I still love getting physical books.

[unborn merlin]

You don’t have to read the entirety of the Heresy but The Buried Dagger will be hella confusing for your first Death Guard book.

I’d recommend Mortarion’s Primarch book and Lords of Silence to start off with. After that probably pick and choose what Death Guard stories from the HH you’d be interested in picking up.

If you’re dead set on starting with The Buried Dagger make sure to read the short story Exocytosis by James Swallow. It’s a prequel to The Buried Dagger but still requires some basic understanding of the Heresy.

You also have to come to terms pretty fast that you’ll never be able to get certain books physically without selling your soul to the Chaos Gods.

[glossy bane]

YES YES YES YES YES

[tall phoenix]

new Star Wars book

[glossy bane]

my day is made

[drowsy urchin]

I've got 40 minutes left to finish it, will do it tomorrow I recon

[nova flume]

Enjoy! I found it really good

[unborn merlin]

I’ll get there eventually. Just started The First Wall and limiting SoT books to one a month for me.

Did get quite a few books this month from the audible sale tho.

[valid jay]

Are there any good ork books besides brutal kunnin, warboss, Ghazghkull and the 3 gobbo books?

[torpid sequoia]

Helsreach kinda

[ruby helm]

Hey a question probably a bunch Made too , with what book could i start or if theres a tutorial or sum

[tall phoenix]

We got some in the pins you can take a look there

or at worst ask the folks here for more guidance

[ruby helm]

Thank you , ❤️

[wintry blade]

Is there more to the Yarrick omnibus? It seems like it ends on a really weird note

But I assume that’s to leave everything vague so they can still sell everything and have the current events remain the same

[wintry blade]

The gobbo books?

[wintry blade]

Depends on what factions you’re into

Or if you have no idea, plenty of people here can make recommendations

[valid jay]

The what books?

Like grots?

[wintry blade]

Idk that’s just what was in your message

I assume so

[wise yew]

Gobbos are a fantasy term for Goblins

[tall phoenix]

Its mostly because it is an omnibus aka a collection of other storyies.

[wintry blade]

Yeah I knew that

[wintry blade]

Ah that makes sense

Is it all the Yarrick stories?

It’s the closest I can get to more orks stuff

[tall phoenix]

Yeah and remember this is from the mid 2000's

Black Library was wonky af lol

[wise yew]

oh yeah Dilara i'm looking for Aos Orruk Books should i just read this without reading the rest

[tall phoenix]

Yeah you wont miss much

https://www.blacklibrary.com/series/the-realmgate-wars

because its a collection of faction stories

[wise yew]

i'm not going to read horus heresy for fantasy no sir

so i can just pick up this book no problem then

[tall phoenix]

[wintry blade]

Dang really? There’s nothing on the third war for Armageddon?

I guess it’s still going on

[tall phoenix]

Oh yeah it is

just barely mentioned

the common and popular theory is we'll get something about them this edition as a Warzone supplement + a new Yarrick model

[wintry blade]

While technically not a book, has anyone written any more half decent gav and Bob stories?

[tall phoenix]

Gav and Bob?

[wintry blade]

It’s a ogryn short story written by someone on 1d4chan, I forget by who

But I thought I had seen more people writing in its setting

I just like ogryns lol so I’ll take what I can get on them

[wise yew]

https://youtu.be/aR9-HVlYfrk?si=JGoB09S04N8bINDb very popular videos by A Vox in the void

the one that a lot of ogryn mains absolutely adore

[tall phoenix]

OH damn im uncultured

[wise yew]

Nah just old

( i am now rapidly running away as we speak )

[limpid yoke]

Listening to The End and the Death Volume 3 and as a TTS fan I can't help but smile at the Tarot dual.

[wintry blade]

Anyone got any good ogryn stories or anything, I just want more ogryn content

[tall phoenix]

Audio Drama + Novel, both are very good.

No big events ,just two abhuman bros

[wintry blade]

Damn, if only I could get both as novels

[tall phoenix]

yeah the audio drama is made to be basically a non-visual movie

the other is... well a novel lol

[wintry blade]

Is there an order?

also can I get the audiobook on mobile so I can listen to it while driving to work?

[tribal ridge]

uh yea pretty sure its on audible?

which has an app

[severe trail]

Audio drama is before the book

[mellow knot]

If you haven’t read it already…

https://www.playdarktide.com/news/short-story-the-ogryn

[glass sparrow]

So after finishing the End and the Death part 3 last Sunday I've given myself some time to gather my thoughts on what I think about it... Overall I liked it and there was, I admit parts that I did not like. My personal rating is biased as I listen to the audio version and Jonathan Keeble gave an amazing performance, a solid 8/10. -2 points for the fact some of the plot lines endings felt... abrupt. Also it was never going to be 10/10 for me because Erebus was going to be marked as an essential NPC and was going to live through the Heresy... God I hope his time come sometime soon in the future.

[tall phoenix]

Basically yeah its just a “good” book

I definitely think it’s overrated though lol

[brittle tapir]

does horus win

[tall phoenix]

He wins and declares hes Warhammer

the 40,000th one

[unborn merlin]

I’ll be frank, I don’t care much for this Horus Heresy guy.

[digital saffron]

Personally I'm not a horse person

[brittle tapir]

the primarch called horus doesnt have an ancient egyptian themed chapter

[tall phoenix]

ironically yeah the Sons of Horus/Luna Wolves are more european barbarians lol

[limpid yoke]

In the epilog for End and the Death 3 and all I can think is *"FUCKING EREBUS"

[tall phoenix]

Eresus vented Loken

[glass sparrow]

"It's not your father's power, IT'S HOW HE STEALS IT!"
Honestly... Horus going full on schizophrenic and Jonathan Keeble giving an amazing delivery of his ramblings was great.

[drowsy urchin]

Keeble did such a good job with Horus

[forest spruce]

Should i read kingmaker or devastation of baal next

[tall phoenix]

Kingmaker 100%

its a really fun book without anything too depressing as Assassins go on a gory violent adventure lol

Devastation of Baal meanwhile is about what you'd expected

[drowsy urchin]

DoB has a few neat moments but Kingmaker is better in every way

[tall phoenix]

^

I appreciate that its just fun

It stays grimdark but its basically almost a Suicide Squad movie lol

[drowsy urchin]

not that goofy though, if that would turn anyone off from it

[tall phoenix]

Yeah its fun in that James Gunn way

"And then the knights started going around the arena shooting convincted prisoners from their massive robots for sport."

Like that is a pretty violent but funny image lol

[iron ore]

Kingmaker mentioned?!

Book slaps

robert rath is a breath of fresh air for warhammer

[tall phoenix]

Rath is Wrathful

[swift yarrow]

Kingmaker is solid, but a one off. Why they haven't set Rath loose to write and entire series is beyond me.

DoB is dummy important in lore, but a slog. Mephiston is Him though.

[tall phoenix]

Lmfao

the most perfect summary ive seen holy hell

[iron ore]

Mephiston unleashes his incel rage to blow up minds

[tall phoenix]

I absolutely find it hilarious how for half the book he traps himself and all the other librarians of the Blood Angels in a bumfuck cave in the middle of nowhere

And its all his fault lol

[unborn merlin]

Dude just felt silly.

[swift yarrow]

Spent too much time talking him up, had to plot him out of the way. He gets justice afterwards though, he's on a scary level in his newer series.

[tawny basalt]

Chaffney — Today at 3:18 PM
The Threat of Rapture blog is relaunching with lots of book reviews of Black Library books. https://threatofrapture.substack.com/

[loud helm]

I didn't like how they handled Loken at all...

It feels like it makes no sense with his character arc.

Its not him|| dieing that upsets me|| but how they did it

[glass sparrow]

Trust me, it took a solid day of me malding to get over that bit. If I didn't remember a very specific part from part 2 I would still be tilted about how it came out of nowhere.

[loud helm]

abbadon is a bad guy

:]

[limpid yoke]

It also kinda urked me that instead of definitively answering if it was a Custodian, Guardsman, or normal Space Marine that stepped up to save Big E they just made it all three.

[forest spruce]

Thats dumb

Like incredibly dumb

[drowsy urchin]

eh, it's done really well

[loud helm]

its all true and none of it is true 🙂

personally i like it when they make multiple things true or keep things vague

if you know everything theres no magic, and a lot of the mystery and eldritch horror has been completely deleted from 40k because we just know everything about everything

[unborn merlin]

Fuck John Grammaticus. That is all.

[random plank]

yo guy i would like to start reading wr 40k where should i start?

[wide mica]

There are some suggestions in the pinned comments

[random plank]

k thx

[forest spruce]

Theres gonna be a ork novel in commeragh

[severe trail]

it might be good

[granite cloak]

It's very unlikely but is there a book and or novel that features the Exorcist Chapter?

[wide mica]

Only one I know of is Headhunted, it's a shortstory about Deathwatch, one of it's members is from the Exorcists, Brother Darrion Rauth

[oak pollen]

https://x.com/pcgamer/status/1756857452543242394?s=46

PC Gamer (@pcgamer) on X

After more than 60 Books spread out over 18 years the Horus Heresy series is finally over, so please be kind to the Warhammer 40,000 tragics in your life. https://t.co/HrfVOOKXkZ

Twitter · Feb 12, 2024, 1:47 AM

[torpid sequoia]

e & d pt 3 and all I keep thinking about is the stupid pokemon card battle lol

[tall phoenix]

What a weird ass post

[severe trail]

They’re playing yugioh

[torpid sequoia]

The emp and horus basically playing cards for a decent bit of their fight incase ya didnt read/listen to the final book for the siege of terra

[tall phoenix]

I read it on release day.

I know

OH WAIT I WASNT TALKING ABOUT YOU

[tall phoenix]

I meant this lol

[loud helm]

rip 40k tragics

https://tenor.com/view/cat-huh-cat-huh-etr-gif-15332443943609734737

[glass sparrow]

Necrons: Playing Pokemon
Emperor & Horus: Playing Yugioh
Now all we need is Tau and Mechanicus playing with Beyblades and Bakugans and it'll be every kid born in the 90's childhood.

[eager agate]

Guys, need something new to read.

Read Gaunt's (my all time favourite) Eisenhorn's, a few Heresy's and short stories.

Looking for astra militarum books specially, so I was thinking about Ciaphas Cain.

[drowsy urchin]

Cain is great

They do get a bit samey if you only read them in a row though

[eager agate]

And any other recomendations? Cain is more like a comical approach, right?

[drowsy urchin]

Fairly yeah. I've not read much guard stuff besides them and Gaunts so I don't have many recommendations besides them

Listened through Steeldread recently, it was alright

Honorguard had better tanker content though

[eager agate]

Honoguard is awesome

Still have to read Bequin and Ravenor. Ended the Eisenhorn omni and forgot about the spin-offs

[drowsy urchin]

They're more so a continuation rather than a spin off tbh

And they are great as well

Only just the last Eisenhorn book takes place between Ravenor and Bequin series so that mixes it up a bit

[eager agate]

Hmmm well yeah, makes sense. Will take a look on those too!

[drowsy urchin]

Highly recommend

[eager agate]

Should I go with Ravenor or Bequin first?

[drowsy urchin]

Ravenor definitely

The series goes
Eisenhorn -> Ravenor -> Eisenhorn Magos -> Bequin

[drowsy urchin]

https://fixupx.com/warhammer/status/1757767866605027748?s=20

oh shit

Votann

I might have to catch up on this series

@tall phoenix

hopefully Nick can pull it off

[tall phoenix]

Ah yes

the guy that has single-handedly ruined the Salamanders novel-wise as a Chapter

and one that even Sally fans hate, im sure he'll be just fine

[drowsy urchin]

People liked The Iron Kingdom right

[tall phoenix]

...

Uh

[iron ore]

@tall phoenix they delisted the new warhammer old world book from audible because the narrator was reading the deaf character’s portion with what could be chalked up to a bad Helen Keller impersonation

Lords of the lance

[tall phoenix]

[iron ore]

Starting 2024 off with a cancelled warhammer audiobook

[tall phoenix]

Based.

cant wait to see where that goes (:

[digital saffron]

Oh that sounds

Not great

[cerulean peak]

Speaking of cancelled... I got my hands on Henry Zou's trilogy for cheap. Are those books an enjoyable read if you bar the whole plagiarism thing?

[tall phoenix]

Ehhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

They are just fine.

[cerulean peak]

I'm starting to delve into old prints now... also managed to find a copy of the inquisition trilogy but i've heard thing about these books

[tall phoenix]

They are an fun read imo

Its a great time capsule book before 40k was properly set in stone. One of the very few books BL ever retconned out of existence

I'd say read the book like you are watching a Kubrick movie

Random nonsense with sexual implications happens constantly as violence erupts at weird moments.

https://tenor.com/view/strangelove-gif-4721969

[cerulean peak]

The grim darkness of the far future...

[tall phoenix]

Really tho id say its definitely one of those books you should read just to say you did.

Its by no means boring but its wild lmao

You'll probably have an equal amount of "lmao" and "the fuck did I just read".

[cerulean peak]

https://tenor.com/view/excellent-happy-mr-burns-simpsons-satisfied-gif-16091269

[wide mica]

Is the Path of the Dark Eldar Omnibus any good? I'm looking to read more about the Drukhari but I don't think I've ever seen anyone talking about them.

[tall phoenix]

Its VERY good

prob one of the best Eldar books ever

[wide mica]

Nice nice

[tall phoenix]

Its a mid 2000's book and one of the only books they got but its a very fun read and gives a great look into their society

Has a lot of "fun" and evil asshole characters you'd like lol

[wide mica]

Sounds perfect

[severe trail]

Insanely good

[iron ore]

best eldar books

[unborn merlin]

https://tenor.com/view/id-buy-that-for-a-dollar-robocop-eyeglasses-gif-15365730

Idk about you but I’d still listen to it. So used to Keeble doing every racial stereotype through the course of the Heresy that this sounds like a fun time.

Love the White Scars but I can never take them seriously when Keeble tries his best Mickey Rooney impression for ten hours straight.

[iron ore]

LMFAO

[unborn merlin]

In all fairness Keeble has gotten better but those early White Scars were…yikes…

Pretty sure Scars was redone with a new narrator.

Haven’t heard it tho.

I liked John Banks’ interpretation of the legion tho.

[torpid sequoia]

finally finished the final siege of terra book. Erebus is such a goober. Least it was kinda cool tho

[tall phoenix]

Eresus stays winning.

[unborn merlin]

Another Erebus sweep.

[severe trail]

Erebus is stuck with kor pharon

Perfect match made in hell

[unborn merlin]

https://tenor.com/view/eating-aw-win-eating-football-gif-16031374

[severe trail]

They deserve each other

[iron ore]

EATING DUBS

FAMOUS JAMEIS

[unkempt wren]

Is there book to teach Ogryn to read?

[lean anchor]

So I’m looking to get into the necromunda game the lore sounds awesome. I was wondering if there are books about the history of the necromunda planet? I’ve seen many books just having one off stories taking place in necromunda, I guess im wondering if there’s a series of books that follow a timeline?

[tall phoenix]

The general history of Necromunda gets covered in the codexes of the game itself, each House book has a good mix of lore that goes into the background of the planet itself and its VERY in-depth, Necromunda is probably one of the most fleshed out planets in 40k due to it being a singular setting.

The books for Necromunda itself are here and there, most of them go back to the mid 2000's unfortunately before the game got properly updated with revamped lore for everyone.

[brittle tapir]

is the kin being there a new thing or a retcon of squats being mentioned

[tall phoenix]

Necromunda always had squats, it's not a retcon. They just weren't a proper faction.

[brittle tapir]

so are kin part of squats or not

[tall phoenix]

They are all the same race

"squat" is a slang term now

Kin/Votann is their proper name

[severe trail]

It’s also a slur technically

To the Leagues of Votaan

The necromunda squats do not give a shit

[torpid sequoia]

sup my fellow twists

[valid jay]

So besides warboss,brutal kunnin, prophet of the waaagh, the 3 gobbo books and da big dakka are there any other books from ork perspective?

[loud helm]

reading books from a xenos perspective?

but that's heretical!!

[whole meadow]

Just finished Kingmaker, any recommendations for something similar?

[whole meadow]

I know the black library 2024 celebration has an Ork short story but that's it as far as I know

[tall phoenix]

We got a new book with the same ork coming out in just a few days on the 24th

[whole meadow]

I considered the Gaunt's Ghosts Omnibus part 1, Eisenhorn Omnibus, Harrowmaster, Void King and the Night Lords omnibus

[tall phoenix]

They arent really the same vibe

[whole meadow]

I know but I meant more overall what I'm considering

[tall phoenix]

Kingmaker is a fun novel without too much grimdark themes aside from dark comedy/assassins going around being a discount suicide squad

which is a rare thing unfortunately

[whole meadow]

Tbh I think that it was especially good cause I read it after Infinite and The Divine

So now I'm looking for something maybe slightly more serious

[tall phoenix]

Ah thats fair then yeah prob one of those will do you good

[whole meadow]

I'm leaning towards Ghosts cause I like the regiment but also I'm curious how much of it is actually the Ghosts doing recon, sniping, etc which is what I'm kinda looking for

[tall phoenix]

A lot of it is

its basically Sharpe's Rifles in space

[whole meadow]

Hell yeah.

[severe trail]

Nothing really like it unfortunately

Which is a shame

[celest heron]

Gaunt's ghost have good soldiering?

Can they fire 3 shots a minute?

[tall phoenix]

I understood that reference

[whole meadow]

I just wanted sniping

Give me asome just targetting high-value targets

And I'll be happy

One of my favorite scens from Kingmaker is || When Raithe shoots Kraine after Sycorax gives him a line of sight on him ||

[tall phoenix]

The banter between them and them just being actual characters is great

[whole meadow]

Yeah I did love that a lot

I loved the entire arc of Raithe learning how to work with a more flexible team

But tbh I was a bit confused by the ending

[tall phoenix]

Meanwhile the Callidus is just "Raithe why are you such a fucking incel???"

💀

[tall phoenix]

Kinda the same

[whole meadow]

From what I read on reddit essentially || Koln had to go rogue cause in the Vanus Temple having the ciphers decrypted can get you killed cause the whole temple is so steeped in secrecy and all that ||

Also I find it hilarioust there's a character called Drusus Mak

[tall phoenix]

man wait till you meet Emil Darkhammer 💀

also yeah Koln was literally being Sombra throughout the entire book so i wanst surprised lmao

https://tenor.com/view/sombra-overwatch-blocked-overwatch2-mexican-gif-26938148

[whole meadow]

Yeah lol

Also Rakkan's so goated

[tall phoenix]

I do like how the entire book just has fun characters

[whole meadow]

Yeah

[tall phoenix]

like it never wallows in misery while still acknowledging knight society is very grimdank

[whole meadow]

Everyone is just so fun

I did love the scene when the mother is first introduced

[tall phoenix]

NAMING THE 3 DOGS 💀

[whole meadow]

Cause it's just so real

YEAH

THE DOGS LMAO

[tall phoenix]

Yarrick being the one thats the most suspicious was also great

[whole meadow]

I just love the entire cast

I do wish Raithe's shoulder would be a bit more expanded, even if it was given some light, but y'know

[tall phoenix]

Yeah it was a fine side plot-point, not much you can do with a muscle injury

[whole meadow]

I wish maybe he ended up fumbling a shot cause of it or something, just show us the effects other than "he felt pain"

[tall phoenix]

Yeee it was just the classic "character is injured in a way that hampers them but they overcome it"

[whole meadow]

But overall I loved the book

I really hope we get a sequel

Or spinoff

[tall phoenix]

Same here, tho Rath just finished Fall of Cadia recently which im currently also going through, id recommend that a read too

[whole meadow]

I'll look into it, thanks!

[whole meadow]

It felt lke he didn't really overcome it, though

At least to me it didn't

[tall phoenix]

Yeah it was just "welp"

[whole meadow]

I did like how Sycorax helped with it, though

It was a nice moment of characterization

Also I LOVED the blurb that mentioned that Raithe hadn't slept for months

[tall phoenix]

When I read that i was like "omg hes me"

[whole meadow]

It was so wholly unnecessary but it just did so much to flesh him out

[whole meadow]

He's so me

(I literally function off 4 hours of sleep most of the time)

[tall phoenix]

but also yeah even with the shortcomings (like chaos knights appearing out of fucking nowhere) still fun book

you dont get simple novels like this in 40k so much anymore

[whole meadow]

Tbh

I got kinda lost in the tail end when Morvayne showed up

Cause Sycorax masked as Rakkan but Rakkan ran, etc

[tall phoenix]

Yeah that might have been Rath mixing it up lmao

his fucking knight gets connected by 2 pilots constantly

especially when one ISNT even Rakkan

[whole meadow]

I actually REALLY liked that moment when Sycorax interrupted Jester's throne spirits

It was so cool so imagine

Also

Leviathan was so cool

Like

The reveal

[tall phoenix]

Oh man you worried me thinking you were talking about that new shitty Ultramarine novel

also yeah before this I never knew ancestor-spirits in knights were THIS interactive

[whole meadow]

Me neither

It was so cool and surprising

OH ALSO

THE FUCKIN

CLIFFHANGER

When the bomb went off at the tournament from the Hinterlanders

With the cliffhanger of Raithe being held at gunpoint by Dask

I was genuinely at the edge of my seat

[tall phoenix]

It was some good shit, really surprised how Rath has like 4-5 books and is hitting it out the park with each one

[whole meadow]

Yeah, Rath is so good

[tall phoenix]

[whole meadow]

Rn I'm really considering the Gaunt's Ghosts omnibus but I'm still unsure

[tall phoenix]

Its worth a read but uh its a long fucking ride ill tell you that much lol

[whole meadow]

I did consider Witchbringer or Outgunned since they seem similar to Kingmaker in a sense cause they delve into the life in the Guard like how Kingmaker did with a Knight World

[tall phoenix]

yeah Gaunt's is also good but like i said you definitely need to devote more time to it.

the others are better for "welp thats that done, off to this next neat book"

[wide mica]

I enjoyed Witchbringer it was fun

[tall phoenix]

I gotta speed-read Cadia but I should give it a look

psyker books are like, basically non-existant lmao

[wide mica]

Witchbringer was my first dive back into 40k books after not reading anything for years and it was good, nice look into the Guard and how they deal with Psykers

Plus the Main character Glavia is such a badass

[tall phoenix]

Alright ill add it to the list

[wide mica]

Don't blow me up if you hate it

[whole meadow]

Tbh I'm a bit anxious about starting an Omnibus

I'm also still hoping that the Lazarus book is coming out soon

[tall phoenix]

yeah Abnett has taken a looooooong break from it

[whole meadow]

Also is it me or the black library site doesn't have any physical books?

[wide mica]

Pretty sure you only get physical books from the Warhammer store

[whole meadow]

Yeah fair but it feels like whenever I use the warhammer store and look up 40k books I get like

60 results for some reason

[wide mica]

Yea they basically only do limited runs for their books

[whole meadow]

[wide mica]

So they'll only be printed and sold for a short while after they release and then they go out of print

But they'll often bring books back for another run later

They basically have too many books to have them all be in constant production

[whole meadow]

True

Maybe....

(I already listened to it on audible)

Fuck it.

Let's have Tzeentch decide

Whelp

Snipin' time

Just ordered it

[tall phoenix]

[whole meadow]

Tbh it was less a matter of "if" and more a matter of "when"

I love the Ghosts

They're my favorite regiment of all time

[brittle tapir]

uncultured

[tribal ridge]

My 40k background and art books

[iron ore]

Battletech sale on kindle

And audible

[mellow knot]

I have a story in the End Times collection which I thoroughly enjoyed writing.

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2024/02/18/sunday-preview-the-dark-angels-prepare-to-mobilise/

@tall phoenix - features Valkia 🙂

[tall phoenix]

God bless 🙏

[raven cipher]

Hey I was wondering what books to read if I want to know about the salamanders @ me pls

[unborn merlin]

Sorry to tell you this…but most of their books are dookie

[unborn merlin]

The HH books are pretty bad but people seem to enjoy the Tome of Fire series.

https://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Tome_of_Fire_(Novel_Series)

[unkempt wren]

Why Tig happy? Favorite lil un die but happy kill heretic? Ulgo sad for Tig

[raven cipher]

HH?

[brittle tapir]

horus heresy

the prequels to 40k

[raven cipher]

Thank you guys btw

[unborn merlin]

Yeah my b. The Salamanders Horus Heresy books are considered some of the worst which is saying a lot.

[mild orbit]

oooooh talking about my favorite

salamandies

[proper portal]

So I was reading Gaunts Ghosts, and I started reading Gol Kolea in Goku's voice, due to his similar name and similar abandonment of offspring

[brittle tapir]

[tall phoenix]

Kids keep on losing

[proper portal]

Parent abandoned you? Skill issue

[unborn merlin]

No wenches?

https://tenor.com/view/cheemsiboy-gif-23266827

[mellow knot]

Tig ❤️

[tall phoenix]

You broke a lot of hearts with what you wrote in that story

[unkempt wren]

Who make sad?

[tall phoenix]

Captain Kentucky wrote the Tig story!

[wintry blade]

Are the yvraine books any good?

[wintry blade]

I should read that one

[tall phoenix]

Only 2 got made and they are a borefest and every Eldar fan hated them so no

[wintry blade]

Dang

[tall phoenix]

go read something good like Valedor

[wintry blade]

I actually am rn

[tall phoenix]

BASED

One of the few rare good eldar books

[unkempt wren]

ULGO WANT WRITE STORY

[unkempt wren]

Huh?

What that mean?

[unkempt wren]

What that mean?

[unkempt wren]

Look like heretic... Ulgo hate heretic

Looks like mauler

[unkempt wren]

Ulgo want to kill more heretic. FOR TIG

[wintry blade]

We haloposting?

[tall phoenix]

Perhaps.

[mellow knot]

It broke my heart writing it because it was a semi-tribute to a very, very dear friend.

[tall phoenix]

noooooooo

[eager agate]

I just finished Lords of Silence and now I'm between starting Ciaphas Cain or keep on the heretic path and go with the Night Lords. I know they're completely different, but in general terms, which series is better overall? Maybe that's a pointless question since it's all personal tastes so... I will put it this way:

• If my favourite EVER is the Gaunt's Ghosts, will I enjoy Ciaphas, being this a more comical approach?
• If I enjoyed Lords Of Silence but I wouldn't say is a masterpiece, will I enjoy more the Night Lords?

[drowsy urchin]

Night Lords trilogy is like 10x better than Lords of Silence

Cain is good but wouldn't recommend going through all of it in a row

and I mean Lords of Silence is pretty good as well but NL is on a whole another level

personally I can't even recall any names from Lords of Silence but I remember almost every member in First Claw's tenth company

and it has been maybe a year since I listened to Lords of Silence and at least 4 since NL trilogy

[eager agate]

Lords of Silence is good, I mean, I liked it and it's very interesting how they explain every detail on their diseases, physical changes, how they see other traitor legions, their faith (or lack of...), it is interesting but I didn't have one of those moments you say: "Oh... Woah" like I had with Gaunt's, Eisenhorn or even other standalone novels.

[drowsy urchin]

yeah it is interesting but the overall story doesn't do anything for me

[eager agate]

Exactly, the overall story is just meh, nothing special

I guess that's just not happening on the Night Lords

I'm mostly looking for a solid story

[drowsy urchin]

yeah no, it has a definitive story with a ending you will want to see

[unborn merlin]

You could always go the Fabius Bile route too. There’s a pretty fun Death Guard apothecary in there.

[eager agate]

And Ciaphas? I heard lot of good things about it and it may provide some good laughs but will it get old too fast maybe?

[eager agate]

Hmmm true, Fabius is also on the table, forgot about it

[unborn merlin]

Can’t go wrong with Night Lords or Bile trilogy. They’re both the GOAT.

https://tenor.com/view/the-goat-black-guy-gif-17915341

[drowsy urchin]

Again Cain is very good, but it might get stale if you keep churning through all of them in a row. I like to drop one in between whenever I change from a story to another

I'm actually half way through the Bile trilogy at the moment. It has been decent

Can't remember much of the first book which I went through quite a while back now but the second one has been fine, a bit slow but it might pick up towards the end

[tall phoenix]

Cain is definitely the weakest yeah

the series is good and praised because most people dont read the entire series

otherwise EVERY single book does the same element

[unborn merlin]

If you want to dip your toes into Cain I recommend the anthology book. Has all his short stories and gives you a good idea of what you’re in store for.

[drowsy urchin]

(I do prefer Cain over Bile at the moment at least)

[unborn merlin]

It’s like ten or twelve Cain short stories where he goes to do a thing. Thing goes terribly wrong and shenanigans ensue.

[eager agate]

https://tenor.com/view/mark-cuban-shark-tank-notes-taking-notes-remember-gif-15073512

I see, I see

[unborn merlin]

https://www.audible.com/pd/B0CCSKWZ99?source_code=ASSORAP0511160006&share_location=library_overflow

I think audible has it significantly marked down rn.

[drowsy urchin]

Cain is more so a legendary dude who's exploits you are listening to through an inquisitor lady, so each story is it's own little mission and/or mishap where somethings happen

[unborn merlin]

I really liked the story where he teams up with a Ork.

[drowsy urchin]

not an overarching story in most cases

[unborn merlin]

They’re definitely entertaining.

[tall phoenix]

You should execute yourself

NOW

[unborn merlin]

Sometimes it’s okay to read something that isn’t entirely grimdark.

[wise yew]

Me reading an ork book and watching orks laugh on someone getting decapitated

[tall phoenix]

Thats me reading the End and the Death vol2

"omg nooo not sanguinius!"

me not giving a shit:

[unborn merlin]

https://tenor.com/view/steve-buscemi-big-daddy-pointing-this-guy-knows-gif-11859501

[tall phoenix]

LMFAO

at the end, Sanguinius really was built like a twink, he sure did break like one

[unborn merlin]

Did someone say twink?

[tall phoenix]

Bro yall hitting me with two of my memes at once

[drowsy urchin]

that fucking SKIIIIIN

fucking "Space Marines at home:"

[tall phoenix]

spread those cheeks buddy

[wise yew]

https://youtu.be/X4nj8OvrPE0?si=WqSiyo_RIG6GnIqA me seeing somehow that sang returned because people wanting him back

[unborn merlin]

I get a lot of mileage with this one tbh

[tall phoenix]

[wide mica]

[short stratus]

Anyone know where i can order warhammer books in the eu (more specifically belgium) cus i tried searching for websites but they didn't work

[brittle tapir]

amazon

[woeful fjord]

Fellow Belgian here, you can order directly from the Warhammer website to your doorstep, Amazon (Nl, French and German ones as well as our own but jump between them to find the best price/availability) and bol.com if you're desperate since they sell at quite the upmark
Outside of that we have a Warhammer store in Gent that sometimes has books as well as De poort

[short stratus]

alright

[proper portal]

Trooper Cuu? More like "I'm imagining this is a repainted Majin Buu mini to go along with the Goku Gol Kolea"

[wintry blade]

Is Da big Dakka out yet?

I'm so excited for more orks

[drowsy urchin]

Think it was on preorder this Saturday? So it would be out on next week's Saturday, 09.03.

[hybrid turtle]

Hope so

But does ufthak not keep that scavenged armor from the end of brutal kunnin anymore? Doesnt look like hes wearing it on the cover art

[wise yew]

this is taking place in commorragh the dark eldar probably before turning him into their personal entertainment gladiator confiscated it

[hybrid turtle]

Ahhh i see

[wide mica]

I think its already released

But it’s only the hardback and ebook right now

Paperback will probably come later

[tall phoenix]

Its out. Im reading it rn

[eager agate]

About to start Night Lords today. Wish me luck, fellas

[harsh meteor]

good luck but if you like it remember that they are still heretics 😉

[loud helm]

Cain is the best 40k series fight me >:]

[eager agate]

Thank you, I will, for I am just a humble servant of the Emperor

[lethal valley]

False gods is bad,right? It's not only me?

[harsh meteor]

i think the very first three books in horus heresy are just fine

they do have some issues but that´s mostly because ain´t nobody known we needed hundred plus books to tell rest of the heresy

[tall phoenix]

Its a solid 3/5

Its fine but just not interesting

[leaden acorn]

False gods is a giant segway

[wintry blade]

I’m gonna paint my device red do I can read it FASTER!

[unborn merlin]

Honestly preferred False Gods over Galaxy in Flames.

Was pretty disappointed in that one. False Gods felt like a cheesy b movie at times so I found it entertaining. Galaxy doesn’t feel like it concludes anything since we know 50 other books come right after it.

[leaden acorn]

All i remember from false gods was horus having an acid trip from the anathema and waking up to heresy

[tall phoenix]

Hes a little memer like that

[unborn merlin]

Felt a little silly.

[tall phoenix]

Horus is basically just a generic bad guy

so i didnt care about it too much

hes one dimensional and thats his purpose

[unborn merlin]

GW said: Stab him with the corrupted blade so he can turn chaos.

Horus: Must kill the Emperor

They tried adding more to his character in later books but I still can’t sympathize with Horus. Dude just comes across as a narcissist with a big ego and you can only blame the anathame so much for his treachery.

On the flip side, I do like Abaddon.

[harsh meteor]

you must be the only one liking him

horus could´ve used some more character building for sure

not particularly impressed with how he fell

[unborn merlin]

He’s pretty likable in the Black Legion books.

Anything else? Eh it’s a mixed bag but that’s just BL books in general.

[leaden acorn]

Its a common trend across the horus heresy books where the traitor primarchs feel forced into corruption or putting themselves in a dumb corner

But hey thats how chaos corruption works i guess

Not much different with how dumb wow lore is about fel corruption

Your iq just plummets

[tall phoenix]

^

[tall phoenix]

Way too many ass-kiss these books about being deep

"Oh it makes sense that the traitors are just mindless sociopaths"

yeah cool but I also don't want to read about loyalists doing generic heroic shit every chapter

[unborn merlin]

COUGH Mortarion COUGH

Can’t wait to read ten books on the Iron Cage just to see Perty go back on his morals to go full Demon Primarch.

[mellow knot]

There's always the non-Primarch traitors who run towards Chaos gleefully screeching and hugging it as though it's an old friend.

I'm looking at you, Huron Blackheart.

[tall phoenix]

You literally wrote some books for the guy tho!

[mellow knot]

No angst or drama for Lugft Huron. Heck, no, gimme all the Chaos. Numnumnum

[tall phoenix]

Hes got my vote thats for sure

[loud helm]

the only book I liked horus in is the first book of the horus heresy

I think there is some interesting character stuff there where hes considering...

is it really ethical to genocide the entire galaxy?

and thats the seed that leads him down the path of damnation

but then he does just become a generic bad guy

FATHER, YOU HAVE DONE BAD THINGS. THEREFORE I MUST STEP ON ONE THOUSAND BABIES, ITS THE ONLY LOGICAL RESPONSE TO THIS SITUATION.

[tall phoenix]

FATHER

YOUR SON HAS RETURNED

I BRING THE DESTRUCTION OF OLYMPUS

I mean uh the Imperium idk

[loud helm]

xD

i saw that video too

IM JOHNNN GRAMMMMMMAAAAAAAATICUSSSSSSSSS

if you ever need any help, just rely on me, JEEEHN GRAMAAATICUSSS

Emperor: I'd rather not...

[unborn merlin]

Don’t you dare slander the best warhammer character! John Grammatichad is super cool and sexy and all the ladies love him + the Emperor is his best friend!

[loud helm]

horus' entire character is malding over not being the main character of 40k

or maybe he was just mad about the emperors beautiful hair

[drowsy urchin]

I love me some Abaddon, during the Heresy and after

[inner geyser]

Came on Sunday

[loud helm]

woah

[celest heron]

where dominique?

[tall phoenix]

Hes literally right there

[tribal sky]

Is the gaunts ghosts: the founding, omnibus a good book to start on?

[burnt urchin]

Heavens no.

Ciaphas cain is decent. It explains stuff through foot notes

[tribal sky]

okay welp. Ive been reading it and its kinda frustrating how it constantly jumps between past and future. It feels very frustrating how you reach a part that is just getting interesting only to have it skip back in time.

Also i didnt mean "start on" as in getting to know the universe, just to start on an interesting setting i guess.

Ive also heard that it picks up at necropolis

[cedar surge]

Well I don't think there's any other spot to start on Gaunt's Ghosts, but the time-skipping can be a bit annoying sometimes for sure.
Ghostmaker is also much more a collection of shorter stories before it becomes one continuous-ish plotline from Necropolis onward

[loud helm]

Cain is a good starting point but its tone is very different from the rest of 40k

if you are just looking for a good book you can read

[gilded shadow]

ive been reading gaunts ghosts, and dont worry, that disappears by the second or third book

ive just finished straight silver

its really good, just note that some of the finer details of lore may be a bit inconsistent with what's established due to the age of some of the books

[hearty niche]

Hmmm, judging by the fact that there is a book after this one, something tells me Gotrek will not find his doom in this book

Kinda funny now that I’m thinking about it

[tall phoenix]

• Trollslayer by William King (August 1999)
• Skavenslayer by William King (September 1999)
• Daemonslayer by William King (October 1999)
• Dragonslayer by William King (September 2000)
• Beastslayer by William King (February 2001)
• Vampireslayer by William King (September 2001)
• Giantslayer by William King (April 2003)
• Orcslayer by Nathan Long (October 2006)
• Manslayer by Nathan Long (October 2007)
• Elfslayer by Nathan Long (October 2008)
• Shamanslayer by Nathan Long (October 2009)
• Zombieslayer by Nathan Long (November 2010)
• Road of Skulls by Josh Reynolds (January 2013)
• City of the Damned by David Guymer (September 2013)
• The Serpent Queen by Josh Reynolds (April 2014)
• Kinslayer by David Guymer (September 2014)
• Slayer by David Guymer (May 2015)

https://tenor.com/view/kurt-angle-stare-100-yard-stare-meme-gif-251436459491629941

Perhaps...

[digital saffron]

You're missing
Ghoulslayer, Gitslayer, Soulslayer, Blightslayer and Realmslayer

[tall phoenix]

[digital saffron]

[drowsy urchin]

I'm glad Gotrek is so bad at dying because that means we get more of the books for the best fantasy series that Warhammer has

(I say this only three books in)

[tall phoenix]

Can't wait for Stairslayer where he falls and bonks his head on a step and dies from the mega-bonk damage.

[cedar surge]

I thought I saw 'girthslayer' and was suddenly very interested

[tall phoenix]

LMFAO

That title applies more to Felix but-

[wise yew]

Felix having the Rizz to attract an undead woman is crazy

[tall phoenix]

LEGIT

Khalida knew what was up

[wise yew]

he was one of the few that Gotrek was like

"OK Felix you're going to marry her and if you say anything against it I will break your legs and force you to kiss her"

bro is just that guy

[tall phoenix]

no hes not That guy

Gotrek is Him™️

[wise yew]

facts

[tall phoenix]

[unkempt wren]

What book have Nork Dennog in it?

[hearty niche]

I do really like how Gotrek and Felix started as uneasy associates and became really good friends

And Felix, while not being HIM he is still quite built different

[unkempt wren]

Huh? Ulgo interested

[hearty niche]

Look up Trollslayer by William King. It’s the start of their adventures

[unkempt wren]

Ok thank you little one!

[proper portal]

oh shit someone said an new Ufthak Ork book hit

must check it out

[unkempt wren]

Ulgo want ogryn book

[unkempt wren]

Ulgo want

What is story? No spoiler please

[severe trail]

Ogryn and Ratling are trying to get rich by finding a eldar relic

They’re a fun duo

Have some existing short stories and an audio novel

[unkempt wren]

Oohh... there Ogryn in militarum in other story? Ulgo get book but want to know

[severe trail]

They aren’t in the militarum

I don’t think there’s an ogryn book with an ogryn in the guard

If that’s what you’re asking

[tall phoenix]

They are deserters.

[severe trail]

Yeah

Which makes them based

[tall phoenix]

^

[unkempt wren]

Ulgo know they not in.

But Ulgo want read life in guard for Ogryn

[tall phoenix]

No dice.

this is like the only few abhuman focused stories in existence in 40k

[unkempt wren]

Would make lotsa money. Ulgo buy 3 copies

Ogryn sometime make Ulgo sad. Tig is sad story. Gav and Bob too... Ogg too

Ulgo sad Tig dead. But Tig sitting at Emperor lunch table!

[severe trail]

Wrong server

[unkempt wren]

Huh?

[severe trail]

[severe trail]

I posted a meme about a warhammer model being old as shit

The thing is older then me by 10 years give or take

[wide mica]

Dang it's a 20 year old mini?

[severe trail]

30

Today is their 30th anniversary

The warp spiders deserve a medal or something f for this

[hearty niche]

Why does thanquol keep failing at everything he does

Is he stupid?

[tall phoenix]

Why did Gyattrick and Feelicks just not break windows?

Are they imperalist?

[severe trail]

No he only makes the greatest of plans

[wise yew]

Call them that again and i will break your knee caps

[hybrid turtle]

any good books about the guard fighting the tyranids? they seem kinda interesting and id like to read up on what its like fighting the bugeyes

or tyranids vs anyone i suppose, not the guard necessarily

[tall phoenix]

[severe trail]

I will literally sacrifice a goat to get GW to have a book about the tyranid invasion of iyanden

[tall phoenix]

Depressing enough 💀

[severe trail]

It’s gona be Uber depressing

But at least it fits

[dreamy ledge]

Why is it called the last hunt???

The mofo on the cover is the chapter master

[tall phoenix]

Spoilers

[dreamy ledge]

Oh(?)

[digital saffron]

It's like, the last hunt, or something

[tall phoenix]

||Uhhh basically theres a time paradox where the White Scar in the cover gets split up in reality due to time travel and one part of him is in realspace leading the Chapter and the other is in the webway searching for the Khan, hence the Last Hunt||

you cant make this shit up

lmao

[pliant turtle]

||Ew timey whimey shit||

[tall phoenix]

^

Hate it EVERY time its used in 40k

the examples are just so many too

[dreamy ledge]

||THE CHAPTER MASTER?!?!!||

[digital saffron]

I went back in time and brushed a chair
Came back to a reality where Dilara wasn't DT server mod
Immediately ran back and shot my past self before I did it

[dreamy ledge]

[tall phoenix]

LMFAO

[tall phoenix]

[dreamy ledge]

I hate 40k lore

[tall phoenix]

NO BUT LIKE

ıts actually a really good book

its just that that plotline is fucking dumb

[dreamy ledge]

Lmao

Also people with homebrew space marine chapters, how do you just not hate your chapter after writing it. Every time I wrote a chapter I’m like ‘hey this is kinda boring-‘

And then start over

[tall phoenix]

Thats literally any sort of creation someone makes

you will hate it but people will love it

we are our own worst critic

[dreamy ledge]

Fr

I’m happy I like my storm cast tho

That was pure Luck I like them

Maybe because they are linked to my city

[tall phoenix]

🙏

[severe trail]

Cities of sigmar on their way to send another crusade out (the last one got eaten alive)

[tall phoenix]

LMAO

[severe trail]

ITS LITERALLY CANON

[digital saffron]

That's the neat part
I hate everything I make and myself

[severe trail]

The cities just fine out one of their crusades died horrifically

And just go fuck it

Gather up more people for another one

[dreamy ledge]

That’s literally the plot of the dominion book

[severe trail]

I know

[dreamy ledge]

It’s great

[severe trail]

Being a crusader in AoS either means you have a death wish

Or are generally insane

[wide mica]

Not me, I love all my little dudes

[severe trail]

~~ just like in real life~~

[wise yew]

does being someone who is just insane as joker and having a death wish count

[dreamy ledge]

My storm casts are basically God Cops and think humans are too weak to manage the law of sigmar

[wise yew]

Why become one when you can be both

[dreamy ledge]

Simple, sweet, a lot of conflict

[dreamy ledge]

Also ‘same alliance’ lmao

[wise yew]

ohh yeah did you paint your Ushoran yet

[wide mica]

Paint?

[tall phoenix]

yeah people that think the "Good Guys" in AoS are all goody-two-shoes really got no idea 💀

[wise yew]

yeah

[dreamy ledge]

Literally every alliance means jack shit except stormcasts and cities

[wise yew]

bro they have dark eldar

[severe trail]

Order is like genuinely batshit insane

[wise yew]

Working as majors

in like a city or something

[dreamy ledge]

But there’s been enough purges of excelsis to say otherwise

[severe trail]

There is not a single order faction I’d call mentally well

[wide mica]

I don’t really paint much

[severe trail]

At least in WHF

[dreamy ledge]

Death don’t fight each other too much tbh

But death is very small faction number

[wise yew]

then did you already assemble him?

[severe trail]

You could reason the empire and Bretonnia were somewhat sane

[wide mica]

I just build, but I’ve not built him either

[dreamy ledge]

So it works out

[wise yew]

ah i see

[severe trail]

Tbf if they don’t get along they’ll annoy nagash

[dreamy ledge]

Lmao

[digital saffron]

"Hey Morathi, do anything fun recently?"
"I conquered my ally's city, betrayed my god and took his power, and undid the millennia of work we did to imprison one of the Dark gods"

[dreamy ledge]

Oh yeah ossiarch fucking hate soul blight and flesh eaters TBH

[severe trail]

I’m not suprised

[dreamy ledge]

Soulblight dislike fec and hate ossiarch

[wise yew]

I mean they are a group of perfect bone killing machines next to zombies and vampires that think they are better than everyone else of course they would be pissed

[wide mica]

My literary creations are perfect, my artistic abilities to make them reality however are lacking

[dreamy ledge]

And night haunt hate everything

[severe trail]

I do find it intresting how the soulblight are 2 factions in one

[digital saffron]

Meanwhile FEC

[severe trail]

Both the deathrattle kingdoms and vampires

[digital saffron]

Arent they more like 4+

With the different vampire factions

[severe trail]

The empire area vampire factions were all one in fantasy

Are they that seperate lore wise in AoS?

I’m not familiar

[digital saffron]

I believe so

[dreamy ledge]

Okay so

All of death use to be one faction

[severe trail]

I’m aware

[digital saffron]

Neferata has her own thing, beefing with Mannfred

[severe trail]

I know about AoS 1e

[dreamy ledge]

Then they split it into the death

[severe trail]

And the legions of nagash

[dreamy ledge]

But they couldn’t finish skeleton horde

[severe trail]

Or whatever it was called

Oh

[digital saffron]

Lauka and the wolf people from cursed city have their own things

[dreamy ledge]

Skeleton horde was its own faction

[severe trail]

So skeleton horde got folded in

[dreamy ledge]

So they put it in soulblgiht

Yeah

And turned out zombies and skeletons worked really well

So they kept it

[severe trail]

I do like how the skeletons still have their seperate lore

It’s cool

[dreamy ledge]

Yee

Basically a vampire goes over to a skeleton kingdom and pays the necromancer for the army

Or the necromancer is already working for the vampire

Except in the legion of night

Where necromancer are top dog

[severe trail]

Aren’t there also some skeleton kingdoms that are independent

[dreamy ledge]

Yea

Usually if the necromancer dies or just fucks off

Or if there’s so much death

[severe trail]

Necroquake

Moment

[dreamy ledge]

Yup

There’s sentient skeletons in cities lore actually

In fucking uhh

What’s that city called

They have a god and everything

For undead who refused to work for Nagash

[wise yew]

the villagers are just chill with it?

[dreamy ledge]

Yea

[severe trail]

The one in death?

[dreamy ledge]

Yea

[wise yew]

so i can look like a freak in AOS and people would just be chill

[dreamy ledge]

Yup

[severe trail]

Lethis

Is the city in shyish

[dreamy ledge]

To be fair the city is literally around due to pure luck

It just happened their garbage scam amulets work

And they spin the giant futurama wheel to power the city

[severe trail]

Lethis also has the funny drug water

[wise yew]

so mags how unusual is it for an Orruk to work as a mercenary

[severe trail]

Peace water or whatever it’s called

[severe trail]

Not super unusual

Orruk’s aren’t kill on sight in AoS unless they’re in a massive warband

[dreamy ledge]

Not rare

Orruks use to be in order lore wise

[wise yew]

In hammer and bolter there was literally a storm cast that like went into the camp diddly do

[dreamy ledge]

Basically gorkamorka and sigmar had a deal to kill the god beats

And then gorkamorka eventually said ‘cringe’

[wise yew]

You look at that another idea just landed on my brain

[dreamy ledge]

And then the age of myth happened

And as said in the ogres codex

‘The ogres rejoiced as they can be called man eaters again’

[severe trail]

Based and food pilled

[dreamy ledge]

And then all of destruction started from one side of the realms and in a straight line murdered everything

[wise yew]

but they are still allowed to work as mercenaries yeah

[dreamy ledge]

Yup

You can play ogres in cities

Well, one

3*

[dreamy ledge]

And then upon reaching the end of the known world

They turned around

And did it again

[wise yew]

I love this thing

[dreamy ledge]

I love it

So much

Also it’s very customizable

My city is basically the biggest ghur haters and believe they are the peak of civilization

[wise yew]

This is the one that also lives in Ghur

[dreamy ledge]

They love

engineering
wind turbines (wind harvesters)
tourism

[dreamy ledge]

Yup

[pliant turtle]

Is warhammer fantasy not as xenophobic as 40k?

[wise yew]

You're telling me they just set up that city there to spite Ghur

[dreamy ledge]

Yup

[wise yew]

That is both brave and stupid

But I admire the courage

[severe trail]

Way less

[dreamy ledge]

Oh this is the book chat whoops

[severe trail]

The three core not evil fantasy races in WHF got along decently well

[wise yew]

Dark elves would work with humans and dwarves in a single war effort more commonly

[wise yew]

No worries I'm sure the mods wouldn't immediately eviscerate us

[severe trail]

High elves and humans were great friends historically. Same with dwarfs and humans

[dreamy ledge]

High elves in AOS are

[severe trail]

High elves and dwarfs didn’t get along because dark elf false flag

[dreamy ledge]

Probably the evilest faction

[severe trail]

Teclis’s facist experiment because free will is too much to deal with

[dreamy ledge]

LMAO

[wise yew]

Teclis speed running

[severe trail]

AM I WRONG?

[dreamy ledge]

This was after he threw his children in the trash too

[severe trail]

Teclis literally went off the deep end

[dreamy ledge]

You are 100% right

Also the high elves have a cool monk thing

[severe trail]

Free Will is great, everyone deserves it —>

God fucking dammit they’re killing each other again

—-> fuck it no one gets free will anymore it’s time for a police state

Funny how of the new elven gods literally only Maliketh, and Tyrion(sorta) didn’t go off the deep end

[dreamy ledge]

Literally the lumineth make servitors

[wise yew]

Phrasing man phrasing, you're making warhammer leaders think like they're real world leaders look ohh wait

[severe trail]

Tbf that was literally teclis’s logic

They don’t deserve free will

[dreamy ledge]

Also the Sylvaneth are hilariously evil too

[severe trail]

Because clearly they can’t be trusted with it

Wood elf

Get it

Wood

[dreamy ledge]

Some order factions are more evil than some chaos factions

[wise yew]

do they turn people into trees and piss on them

[severe trail]

No

[dreamy ledge]

No they just skin children alive

[severe trail]

Think wood elf xenophobia from fantasy

But eviler

[wise yew]

Much better

[dreamy ledge]

Yea

But they do like the living city

And that’s kinda it

[severe trail]

Wanderer’s and Kuronathi as well

Are tolerated by most sylvaneth

[dreamy ledge]

I WNAT WANDERers BACK

PLEASE

I WANT THE DEER ELVES

[severe trail]

Key word on most

Some sylvaneth uh

Did not forgive them

[wise yew]

High Elves
Are bad

So is the wooden ones

What About Aquaman

[severe trail]

And make sure to torture them extra hard

[wise yew]

The deep kin or whatever their name is

[dreamy ledge]

Also you literally can’t take Sylvaneth in grey water fastness lmao

[severe trail]

The deepkin are evil because they’re slavers

[wise yew]

ok is that it

[dreamy ledge]

A slave in deep kin is basically like, a lower middle class citizen in cities I believe

[severe trail]

Pretty much

[wise yew]

They sound completely tame

compared to the other two

[severe trail]

They treat their slaves pretty well

Still sucks

[dreamy ledge]

They just do politics for fun tbh

[severe trail]

But like

You won’t get skinned alive

Or lobotomized with a giant beam of light

[wise yew]

They sound better than the dark elves the high elves and the wood elves

[dreamy ledge]

Like the point of the blind king book is

[severe trail]

You’re just gona be forced to be like

A house slave

[dreamy ledge]

‘None of this politics matter’

[severe trail]

Which feels absurd for me to call not super evil

[wise yew]

Holy **** I did not know they are that better compared to the other three in order

[severe trail]

But compared to what the sylvaneth and Lumineth do

[dreamy ledge]

The main character is clearly worse leader then the antagonist

[severe trail]

They’re pretty benign

[dreamy ledge]

But he doenst care

[severe trail]

Also there’s the daughters of khaine

[dreamy ledge]

He feels cheated and thinks he should lead

[severe trail]

Who do on average

Get along pretty well

[dreamy ledge]

Eugenics!

[severe trail]

Yeah

That

[dreamy ledge]

Yeah

[severe trail]

But besides that they’re in most cities of order

And they’re currently in a religious schism

[dreamy ledge]

Are they?

[severe trail]

Bcs morathi

[severe trail]

The major cities at least

They offer entertainment

Of the more uh violent kind

[dreamy ledge]

I know hammerhal, excelsis, and boat

They are in

[severe trail]

They’re in the one in azyr iirc

[wise yew]

this sounds like that one circus in bg3 with the bloodthirsty red caps running around the place as helpers for some reason

[severe trail]

But they’re like super carefully watched now

After the morathi incident

[dreamy ledge]

lol

[severe trail]

I wonder why

[wise yew]

Of course Morathi Fucked something over

[severe trail]

There’s also Maliketh Malerion’s shadow elf things

[wise yew]

Literally and figuratively

[severe trail]

But we don’t know what they’re up to

[dreamy ledge]

I wanna see a new city of sigmar gargant kitbash bth

[severe trail]

Would be cool

[dreamy ledge]

Like in the armor

[severe trail]

Malerions shadow elfs are prolly the next elf faction tbh

I want dwarfs to get another one

[wise yew]

Don't sigmar have Gargants that guard Azyr

[dreamy ledge]

They will probably be a prong of DoK

Which is good

[dreamy ledge]

Every faction has gargants

Even idoneth

Somehow

[wise yew]

i mean Kraken eaters are a thing

[dreamy ledge]

HUH?!

[severe trail]

Idoneth are so weird as a faction

Morally

[wise yew]

Kraken-eater mega gargants

you know the ones that live near the sea and basically hunt there