40k-book-club

[drowsy urchin]

~20 of those ~50 are novella anthologies which have little to no impact on anything. Some of them are good, but mostly just the early ones

[severe trail]

Book 9 is very good

If you like admech

But aside from that

That’s all I really know about heresy

[shell spruce]

Looking to pick up some new books, anyone read Valdor or Krieg? Worth picking up?

[wet holly]

I didnt really like Krieg.
Honestly if youre alr familiar with how they came to be you can skip.
The present day part too is lowkey just boring with the Krieg not even being the focus.

[digital saffron]

Definitely Valdor

[shell spruce]

Alrighty, ended up picking both, as i'm not familiar with Krieg, outside of the shovel memes. Picked up Catachan Devil and Harrowmaster as well, hopefully they're good reads too

[loud helm]

read the first three books in horus heresy then just read the ones about the stuff you like.

like for me i really like all the stuff about guilleamamameanman and magnus so i just read everything with them in it which has all been pretty good

Unremembered Empire to me is just a cool book it has lots of stuff going on and it's kind off an intersection of a bunch of different stories

[drowsy urchin]

UM/WB/WE storyline is among the best after the first 5

All the white scars stuff is great

Prospero stuff is nice

[loud helm]

if you like thousands sons this book is amazing to me. its 90% of why i think primarchs are cool and not just boring oc fanfic mcs

[drowsy urchin]

Unremembered empire and books after it before SoT are all good

[loud helm]

ive read just random ones and i feel like i got lucky and dodged most of the crappy stuff

i haven't read any siege of terra stuff

idk i know how it ends lol

[wet holly]

I also picked some...stuff..up.

[prisma phoenix]

Ah perfect, didn't see the pinned. Thanks,

[tall phoenix]

[shell spruce]

The Mars series is a good one, enjoy. Haven't read the other novels, Fifteen Hours seems like a good one though, judging from random internet opinions. May need to pick it up too

[wet holly]

Heard its great, but I am not really to critical when it comes to books.
I just want to be entertained and loose myself in the setting lol.
As I said, I was so lucky and got the last copy!

[iron ore]

Damn, 1 good book there

[wet holly]

I alr know I'll enjoy all of them

[severe trail]

FORGES OF MARS RAAAAAAAAAAH

[digital saffron]

This was bigo nice

[wet holly]

That stinking seller put a fuuuucking STICKER ON MY BOOK

I hope this penis gets abducted by dark eldar.

[shell spruce]

https://tenor.com/view/curses-mojojojo-the-powerpuff-girls-monkey-evil-monkey-gif-15769053

[brazen dust]

Suggestions for a book to start with?

[random marlin]

Check the first pinned message. 🙂

[brazen dust]

Oh why is it- reads pin

yup.. that'd about do it.

https://tenor.com/view/chris-pratt-andy-dwyer-omg-shocked-face-meme-gif-25585329

[bold citrus]

Are there any books with a Culexus assassin actually involved in the story?

[runic peak]

Inquisitor

https://tenor.com/view/troll-troll-face-trollage-sus-amogus-gif-25939665

[drowsy urchin]

Nemesis I suppose

[tall phoenix]

Nemesis

has one female Culexus as an active character

[bold citrus]

I'll check that out, thanks!

[tall phoenix]

its literally like THE only story that has a Culexus as a part of the main cast so lmao

[thorny meadow]

Picked up these 2 at a store I saw near mine 🙂

Just saw orks and plague marines and thought yes please

[tall phoenix]

very good choices for both Mr Waltuh

[thorny meadow]

Plaguemarines are very interesting to me and orks oh god the best thing ever

[kindred tendon]

So I know there isnt exactly any "book" on the war in heaven but I do constantly hear descriptions of and abilities of Ctan in their videos

are Ctan shown in any books? and is the war in heaven ever alluded to?

[bold citrus]

Brutal Kunnin is fun. The Mechanicus parts are kinda weaker, compared to the ork parts, but it's a fun read

[tall phoenix]

The C’tan and in extension the War in Heaven are only mentioned and sometimes shown passingly across various books and lore supplements, we mostly know what it is and what happened but its not fully in detail as a mess like The Horus Heresy is

Highly suggest checking out the lexicanum page for it, more or less should tell you everything since the entire event is always told in broad strokes

[thorny meadow]

Opinions on plague war?

[slow pilot]

end of an era

[slow pilot]

i loved all 3

[vale wren]

Book 8: part 2

Jesus Christ

[bold citrus]

Didn't read that one yet

[iron ore]

Moves the lore forward, but overall highly average- mix of generic bolter porn and introducing plot lines that will never be explored despite their insane implications

[tall phoenix]

Abnett basically said he couldn't fit all the shit he wrote into one book and made it 3 Parts.

and as he has the most spineless editors and that it means free money for GW to milk he kinda has no opposition

[iron ore]

he really is the stephen king of GW

[tall phoenix]

Minus the cocaine but i wouldnt be surprised

[drowsy urchin]

He really is the best

[iron ore]

Aaron Dembski Bowden is prob the best BL writer

However, Nguyen for AOS and Robert Rath for 40k are on the RISE

Godeater's son by Nguyen, PLEASE read it

it's so good

[severe trail]

It is very good

+1 from me

[orchid herald]

Robert rath kingmaker was a fun novel. They will lokely put the raising authors on lore and codex development like justin d hill and josh rreynolds are. Or as my local warhammer shop manger tells me.

[wicked tree]

ADB's to hit or miss to be the best

[drowsy urchin]

Honestly haven't seen a miss from him yet

[vapid sable]

I remember a critism of him being thwt all his characters have waifus

But... I think thats more so having other female main characters in stories primarily dominated by blokes

Specially the space marine stories

One character did have a Deldar scourge friend... which does push it a bit far for me but chaos and deldar working together isnt that bad

[tall phoenix]

That shit was CRINGE

[loud helm]

ngl i have zero interest in aos

not saying it doesn't have its merits but

i would take warhammer fantasy over it any day

aos just feels like fantasy... IN SPACE!

they even made space marines in it lol

[digital saffron]

Fantasy, in space
Like 40k?

AoS started out rough but now it's mostly fine

[tall phoenix]

^

AoS is also selling extremely well due to its accessability and amazing model range.

[slow pilot]

If you mean the book thing then it will be. Fabian is a recurring character in haleys books.

[bleak void]

Finished The First Heretic

my first full length audiobook and first 40k book

Pretty good

[drowsy urchin]

Know No Fear and Betrayer are amazing as well

[iron ore]

Much more than that

@tall phoenix calling in an assist Bc yk what I’m talking about and have listed them before (I’m also in the gym and can’t write a paragraph)

[tall phoenix]

Yeah I don't think I personally have too much to add but the issue with the Plague War series is very much the fact that its just a novel series written to push Primaris to the forefront and act as a generic and short series along with the Deathguard (but we all know the posterboys are the main attraction as usual)

And as usual has the same old 40k thing of making a huge event like this pass by like it was nothing and all that happened in it has kinda gone nowhere over the years especially following the Pariah Nexus and the Arks of Omen. They are a fine read but not really what i'd call peak 40k fiction.

[bleak void]

I felt bad for Lorgar dude had a lot of valid issues

he just a sensitive soul

😩

[iron ore]

https://tenor.com/view/lego-xmen-wolverine-colossus-videogame-gif-25851107

Thank you

[tall phoenix]

Np broski

[forest spruce]

Calth would like to dispute that

[slow pilot]

What?

[peak hare]

Hi guys

I just finished the Eisenhorn's omnibus
Is Legends of the Dark Angels: A Space Marine Omnibus, a good next step?

[drowsy urchin]

Well if you're still interested in the same setting as Eisenhorn you could go with Ravenor books and Bequin after that

They're even better than Eisenhorn imo

That saga just gets better the further in you go

[tall phoenix]

^

Dark Angels are just not as interesting unless you wanna read about how the Fallen are Fallen and that they shoul stop being Fallen and get executed by the Dark Angels for 900+ pages

[orchid herald]

Recommand the leagcy of calbane instead. More intersting da novel. Then legends of da. In my view

[shrewd silo]

Could you explain why you like know no fear?
Because it's one of the hersey books I found to be awful and really wanted to like but didn't.
Betrayers great tho

[drowsy urchin]

Are you sure you're not mixing it up with Battle For The Abyss, which is in between the two good books The First Heretic and Know No Fear? Know No Fear is pretty widely liked but whereas Battle For The Abyss is pretty much universally disliked.

If not, honestly I can't recall the book that well for it has been years since I listened to it. I just remember really liking it. It was pretty action oriented iirc and had fun moments with Guilliman and it was fun to hear about the origins of the UM / WB rivalry

[shrewd silo]

Battle for the abyss was trash but know now fear was just a mess

I lost track of a lot of the characters the book felt like it had no focus so I got lost constantly

[drowsy urchin]

I see, that's one reason I prefer audiobooks. Easier to keep track who's who when the narrator has their own voice for each character

[shrewd silo]

I did listen to it

I think the worst thing is I thought I would love it

Because I love the city under seidge books like necropolis GG4 and gotrek and felix 2 and whatever other one they are stuck in the city

Also orc slayer when they take back a dwarf hold

[ebon olive]

Traded some plastic heresy marines for a real doozy of a book today.

[tall phoenix]

Nice one

those cost a fortune these days on other places

[ebon olive]

I remember when it was in stores as a kid and always wanted one. Published 20 years ago!

[vocal gale]

the godric and felix books are a blast

[loud helm]

Those are warhammer fantasy

Gotrek and felix?

unless they survived the end times some how

[severe trail]

Gotrek survived

Felix is MIA

Gotrek is looking for him

[hexed plinth]

Sweet baby jesus I just looked at the price for that book.

[drowsy urchin]

Finished Genefather. Liked it a lot! Cawl and Bile make a great pair

[random marlin]

Nice!

[drowsy urchin]

Let's gooo

[bleak void]

No spoilers

Hoping the planet pulls through

[drowsy urchin]

[bleak void]

Did you listen to Genefather on audiobook too ?

[drowsy urchin]

ye, was great

[bleak void]

Nice. I know how to read I swear but the First Heretic audiobook was pretty cozy

seeing what else is out there in that format

[drowsy urchin]

I've preferred audio for a long while now

can do other stuff whilst listening, like painting or commuting

I've got ~70 warhammer books on audible

[bleak void]

Awesome

[random marlin]

Going to read this after finishing Ashes of Cadia, about a third of the book left.

[wintry blade]

Ok, I'm looking for a book that I thought was being advertised not too long ago, and the reason why I bought and read all the farsight books in order, I thought it was called War of Secrets, but upon looking that up I found something different, I thought the premise of the book was Commander Farsight being interrogated by an imperial inquisitor, idk if that exists or if I'm insane

Anyone know?

Thank you for coming to my TED talk

[random marlin]

This sounds like ||Peter Fehervari's short storyFire and Ice|| 😉

[wintry blade]

Ah, thank you

I was recommended to read war of secrets after the farsight books, is that right?

[random marlin]

Can't help you on that one as I didn't read any farsight books, I heard they were interesting though.

[wintry blade]

When I look at it it just seems like it’s a space marine book with T’au just as a plot device to give them something to kill

But if it’s actually a farsight book I’ll read it

[wintry blade]

Btw the books were quite interesting

[upbeat zealot]

If you put a chaos marine and a space marine against each other, who would win? Obviously Mkvenner would.

[vale wren]

I mean, they literally did kill 5 space marines with just 12 guardsmen and some sleepwalkers

[glossy perch]

Best place for 40k audiobooks? Sans Audible, would prefer physical or mp3 over a cloud-based subscription

[iron ore]

audbile for sure

[tall phoenix]

Entirely Audible yep

[iron ore]

unless you want me to record casette tapes for ya

[tall phoenix]

[hexed plinth]

I think I just found what to do with all my audible tokens.

[mint wasp]

https://tenor.com/view/do-it-shia-la-beouf-flame-gif-4445204

[wet holly]

My amazon order is coming s-
AMAZON????

[tall phoenix]

[digital saffron]

Are you a programmer?

[wet holly]

no. I am just into 40k.
Comes with the hobby.

[wintry blade]

So within the Farsight books canonically Farsight is currently ||roaming in his self imposed exile|| correct?

[tall phoenix]

I mean kind of but no? He was always an exile so its not a spoiler.

He sticks with his Enclaves

[severe trail]

Admech player conversion kit

[wet holly]

Night Lords and Khornate actually

[wintry blade]

Yeah but he’s not exclusively in the enclaves, I think he stays more in just the other side of the Damocles gulf, the side without the tau empire

[tall phoenix]

yeah because hes not with the Empire anymore

[wintry blade]

Yeah I know, I just meant he travels all over the enclave side of the gulf, he doesn’t just stay in enclave territory

[tall phoenix]

Yeah but hes still a part of the Enclave, entirely due to a tabletop and plot standpoint, he cant seperate from them since hes the posterboy for the Enclaves

[wintry blade]

I don’t think he actively leads much now unless he has to, he leaves most of that stuff up to the Eight

[tall phoenix]

pretty much

[wintry blade]

Oh yeah, he’d never not be a part of the enclave, they’re his creation, albeit not completely intentionally all the way through, but I mean he’s in “exile” of the enclaves on a spiritual journey trying to a. Sort through all the shit and things he’s uncovered, b. Figure out how to win against the myriad forces that are against him, and c. What to do after he wins

[iron ore]

finished caves of ice and the beguiling last night

Cain is always a fun read

[somber kraken]

So I finished Outcast Dead.

Great story, lot of fun.

But holy shit did that seem like it added nothing to the overall plot.

Like, it's always fun to get the perspective of loyalist traitor legionnaires who've been seperated from their legion. Their confusion and all that. Like loyalist world eaters go hard. Dudes always saying they'd straight up try to murder Angron if it were true he went traitor.

Or, well I guess the major plot point was that Emps knew how the Heresy was going to end, the whole "only victory is to deny your enemy victory"

[tall phoenix]

Yeah it being basically a story that goes nowhere is a big issue with the book

it was mostly at that point people kinda realised how filler most HH mainline books were in general which is 💀

[somber kraken]

I mean they're still entertaining books, which is really all I'm looking for.

But that was a very long book for the only thing of long term value to be how the Emperor saw the future.

and I guess how a pskyer has the ability to completely cut off their connection to the warp? I dunno if that's ever used again.

[shrewd silo]

What did you think of nemesis because that's a story that basically has 0 impact to everything even if it's got high stakes.
It's my favourite filler book so far

Like even the summary before I read it I kinda knew

But turned out really fun

[wild beacon]

https://www.humblebundle.com/books/best-warhammer-cubicle-7-books?hmb_source=&hmb_medium=product_tile&hmb_campaign=mosaic_section_1_layout_index_2_layout_type_threes_tile_index_3_c_bestwarhammercubicle7_bookbundle

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[somber kraken]

Oh I loved Nemesis lol

Anything that shits on Erebus is gonna be 10/10

Plus the Black Pariah was a pretty cool concept

[shrewd silo]

Yeah it's was a pretty great villain

[somber kraken]

I did get a lil lost in the first 3rd of the book where it was following like 3 different story lines, I chalk that more up to me listening to an audiobook during work and missing some info every so often

[shrewd silo]

Kinda funny I read the description and it's like elite assianorum kill team go out to kill horus.
I wonder what's gonna happen.

Then it's basically demon hunting

[somber kraken]

I go in completely blind. I just look up what the next book is and go.

But yeah, that was a fun twist. Was really not expecting all the personality of the assassins either, but that was a great crew

[shrewd silo]

You read kingmaker?

[somber kraken]

not yet, but I heard that one is probably even better. Like more funny and not as grimderp

[shrewd silo]

Yeah it's very fun going in blind or knowing everything I think it would still be a fun ride

[somber kraken]

Oh yeah, I was into second hand lore for a few years before getting into the books. So I know most of the general information, but the books got all them details and fun stuff lol

[shrewd silo]

I kinda found it funny how I started 40k books with all guardsmen party youtube videos

[somber kraken]

it was majorkill that started it for me, then leutin lol

[shrewd silo]

Then I read the first 5 HH books and I kinda liked the humans more then the space marines

I was from ages ago but it was really listen to all guardsmen party that got me into the reading and listening part

Like Dow 1

https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLvXz4ii9fJ82n17FZn1v5AJa_kyGFur3g&si=IMLV4yYMR1UwJK6J

[somber kraken]

oh man those would've been great for my work drives lol

[shrewd silo]

Some of the most fun 40k stuff out there and it's a non official dark heresy campaign write up

[floral phoenix]

Where to start reading

[digital saffron]

See pinned posts

[fair flint]

Has anyone read the drukhari books?

what do you think of them?

[tall phoenix]

They are absolutely amazing

Not peak fiction but capture the Dark Eldar really well as faction since its like the only main novel line about them.

Both morbid and funny in equal measure, maximum recommended from me if you like that sort of thing 👍

[wintry blade]

Is there any more mike brooks ork books after Warboss?

[jolly cloud]

Those this server has like a list of books that people try to read, like a real book club? 🙂

[digital saffron]

Oh wait I misunderstood

iirc there used to be a thing like that but the mod in charge of it is doing other things

[scenic raft]

THE END AND THE DEAD 2 SOON FELLOW WARRIORS

[tall phoenix]

Im gonna be at the End and also Dead before this shitshow series is over

👩‍🦼

[iron ore]

Siege of terra bad?

I need a book that’s just got a chaos marine fucking Perc angling people

https://tenor.com/view/kurt-angle-kurt-angle-show-podcast-conrad-thompson-adfreeshows-gif-21653956

[orchid herald]

CM Ashqy ran it for books then left. We got gifts card. A cosmetics and a frame. But now this is just a outer branch of lore chat that focuses on books. Unless takes over that @tall phoenix part of the community which she should.

[tall phoenix]

man i wish i had the time 💀

[iron ore]

Ill run the book club

first things first

stop reading warhammer

[tall phoenix]

based

[drowsy urchin]

Gotta try and finish The Fall of Cadia before TEATD2 releases

half way through now

well almost, 11h 47m left

[random marlin]

How is it? I'm going to finish Ashes of Cadia soon and will start The Fall of Cadia after that. Seems like I'm on a "... of Cadia" streak.

[drowsy urchin]

It has been quite interesting, although not that much has happened yet. Lots of build up

I'm at the part where the main assault has just begun, first day just passed

[whole rain]

What are your must read books ?

[drowsy urchin]

Inquisitor saga, Nightlords trilogy, a good few of the Horus Heresy books, Siege of Terra, The Infinite & The Divine, The Twice Dead King duology

For starters

[shell spruce]

First novel in the Word Bearer omnibus, Night Lords Omnibus, Soul Drinker Omnibus (first one), Storm of Iron, Eisenhorn/Ravenor omnibus, Helsreach, Gaunt's Ghost and Ciaphas Cain omnibuses

[iron ore]

Horus heresy 1-4, 5,7
Eisenhorn trilogy
Kingmaker
Cadian blood
Helsreach
First 3 ciaphas
I think that covers some good ones

[whole rain]

What about Arks of Omen ?

[tall phoenix]

those arent novels

[iron ore]

I think those are like campaign books for the tabletop lol

[tall phoenix]

^

[whole rain]

My non existent knoweledge has been exposed

[tall phoenix]

Get em

[iron ore]

Authors to avoid: Nick kyme
CS goto

[tall phoenix]

[iron ore]

JUMP HIS ASS

[whole rain]

Niceee

[iron ore]

Basically just pick whatever looks cool and read it

[forest spruce]

[iron ore]

First four heresy books prob the best shit overall

[whole rain]

I Heard about ciaphas books. The only men that has Common Sense in 40k

[iron ore]

Yea they’re funny

They’re all basically the same book everytime but he’s a great character and fun to read

Gaunts ghosts books are good as well but since they’ve been released consistently for two decades they’ve got some fucked power scaling etc

[whole rain]

Are there any good books about Yarrik ?

[iron ore]

Quite a few actually

[orchid herald]

Lukas. Shrike. Sons of corax. Cadia stands serries. Pandarox. Greyknight. sons of titain. All of cains. guants ghost. Last chancers and battle of fang.

[glass sparrow]

I would toss in a trilogy of books titled: Blood of Asaheim, Stormcaller, and Helwinter Gate. All 3 books cover the story of a pack of Space Wolves and a quest they take up. I like it because it respects Space Wolves enough to show that they can actually be intelligent at times and it does a good job showing the sisters of battle off. Also the VA for their audio versions is top notch.

[glass sparrow]

To give a bit more context: They know their tactics are absurd from the viewpoint of outsiders, but there is still a point to them. Also they respect the hell out of the order of Sisters that fought with them.

[shrewd silo]

Dam you liked HH6?
I though it was trash and 7 was mid.
Hh5 was great fun way better then both

[iron ore]

Yea I got 5 and 6 mixed up never mind

6 sucks

5 rocks

[shrewd silo]

The curse of the dark angels.
Awesome lore shit books

[iron ore]

Salamanders and dark angels get shit books

[severe trail]

Curse of Nick Kyme

[iron ore]

There’s one good dark angels book

Space marine battles one

With Ezekiel and an ork on the cover

[severe trail]

Dark Angels codex is good

Lol

[shrewd silo]

I didn't mind the return of the lion book but after finishing it I kinda thought it was mid compared to the next book I listen to

That was war boss

It was like I immediately realised I forgot all the characters and what they did beside the lion

I still remember what the orks did and the grot and the human captive.

Actually I found the lion book most comparable to Isekai anime

[random marlin]

I finished Ashes of Cadia. It was... ok, as most recent BL books are, but there were some weird things in it. I really had trouble with suspension of disbelief in this one.

[random marlin]

On another subject, I noticed on the Black Library subreddits that people who shared their signature of the 1000 limited edition of the Dark Coil all seemed to have a different one... So I asked Peter Fehervari about it and here is what he told me.

I spent a very long time over the signing sheets. I made a vow long ago that if my stories ever appeared in a limited edition I'd try to do it justice on signature sheets, so it was finally time to deliver on that. I see it as a way of saying a personal thank you to each reader who has spent serious money buying a set. I also felt it was in the spirit of the Coil for the sheets to play a meta game of their own, with some of them weaving into a connected puzzle that will likely never be solved. I'll post about this on Reddit at some point, once I have some breathing space, but I created a spreadsheet to organise the inscriptions, with different levels of rarity. These range from 100 sheets with a signature only, through Common, Uncommon, Rare and Unique inscriptions, along with nineteen highly elaborate 'Aphelion Incantations'. It's insane, but that's the nature of this journey, as the intro will explain. Naturally, as a gamer, I colour the rarities on my spreadsheet from 'White' through to 'Purple' (no Gold).

I love the idea, and Peter's attention to details and love and respect for his readers are impressive!

[whole rain]

Book club I have come to bargain

I need a gift for my friend for his birthday and thought about a Warhammer40k book. Is there any good "standalone" book that does not end with a cliffhanger ? I thought about the Infinite and the Divine, or Kingmaker. Any other recommendations ?

[iron ore]

Kingmaker goes hard

[tall phoenix]

Both are very good choices but Kingmaker is the safer choice

[drowsy urchin]

hah that's pretty great

[random marlin]

Is he very familiar with the 40k universe in general and Necrons in particular? If he isn't, Kingmaker seems indeed like the safer choice. When I read The Infinite and the Divine, as I don't know the Necrons very well at all, there were some parts which were a bit complicated for me.

[random marlin]

It is, isn't it? Peter seems to always go the extra mile in his works, but I wouldn't have thought of something like that. 😄

[hearty niche]

So was the Horus heresy always planned years ahead in 40k book timeline by the writers or did that just happen over time?

[orchid herald]

Very few authors go into the extra mile. Also the distrubition of them kinds of make them depended on location if you are in occeania like nz. Png. Australia. And indoesia your getting the tale end of the run with all the linited editions i have bought i have never got something wihin the ahead of the 3/4 mark. So nice that he adds those details but it means your not going to get those rare edditions.

[deep knot]

What would be the best book to start with to start reading the lore and where can I find it?

[tall phoenix]

We got some books on the pins, take a look there

[deep knot]

Thanks!

[orchid herald]

Dan abbentts book arnt deem cannon by lot of people. The codexs contain lore of their faction. With additiomal contain in black libarary supplemental books.

Novel
guards:
-last chancers
-steel tread
-catachan devil
-starken
-fall of cadia
Ashes of cadia
Cadia stands serries
Caiphas cain

Sm.
There manyy oppions differe on how good they are.

Csm.
Night lords omnibus.
Along with choas gift.

[shrewd silo]

Why are they not deemed cannon?
They are all basically man fights chaos with sheer will power and that's most of 40k space marine books

My main complaint about DA is his main characters are basically all just reskins of each other

[tall phoenix]

Too many deviations.

Its why most people consider them in the "Abnettverse" of 40k

he just has too much influence and its obvious his editors basically never do their job

[iron ore]

Yea but that eisenhorn trilogy though

[tall phoenix]

Truuuuue

[orchid herald]

eisenhorn Trillogy is not consistent with any of the current universe rules, the is minnial acknowledgement of his action in 40k, along with with other forms of "lore" he has added in. you only find that eisenhorn actions are acknowledged by abnetts other books like Guant. if Eshinron Trillogy was part of 40k Cannon then alot of the basic asumptions of how the 40k's Psyhic Powers function would be dramatically different

[hallow igloo]

End and the death volume 2 is up on audible

[vapid sable]

so im assuming this is the final book?

or rather depicts what happens on the vengeful spirit?

[digital saffron]

Partially

Final one is Volume 3

[tall phoenix]

The book ends with Horus beating the shit out of Sanguinius

and Big E and Co about to face him on the boss-fight chamber

we still got one more filler novel to go

[forest spruce]

I bet there will be a 4th

[tall phoenix]

god

[forest spruce]

If there is im never reading the heresy

[severe trail]

Probably for the best

[loud helm]

eisenhorn himself is canon though

hes a tournament playable model

[shrewd silo]

That's what I don't get people say eisenhorn is not 40k because it's to idk op or outlandish.
But primarch are running around like Isekai anime characters

[iron ore]

I never gave a fuck about power scaling in warhammer

if some random fuck from stirland with a halberd can kill the horrible monstrosities of the crypt on the day 2 day, then surely every once in a while a random dude will knock off a demon or something (this is a massive false equivalency by me)

[slow pilot]

Finished the first black stone fortress and it's my new favorite

[tall phoenix]

Be sure to get to the ending of the trilogy they are pretty neat books

[somber kraken]

Going through Deliverance Lost, and they make the Raven Guard just seem... really aloof? Like you'd think the sons of Corax would be a hell of a lot more professional.

could just be the way the narrator voices them though too

it's really weird when they give astartes a similar voice to a young child

[tall phoenix]

Lmao

HH Moment 💀

[somber kraken]

I think the worst was how in the Dark Angels books, the main character you follow from him being a child and knighted to becoming a Librarian has the same high pitched voice the entire time

ᴸᵘᵗʰᵉʳ, ʷʰᵃᵗ ᵃʳᵉ ʸᵒᵘ ˡᵒᵒᵏᶦⁿᵍ ᵃᵗ ᵒⁿ ᵗʰᵃᵗ ˢʰᵘᵗᵗˡᵉ ᵗʰᵃᵗ ʲᵘˢᵗ ᵇᵒᵃʳᵈᵉᵈ ᵒᵘʳ ᶠˡᵃᵍ ˢʰᶦᵖˀ

NOTHING, BOY

ᴼʰ, ᵒᵏ ᴸᵘᵗʰᵉʳᵎ

[tall phoenix]

okay the font resizing got me

having went through the same thing with that book yeah it sucks

[iron ore]

No audiobooks for me since Im not a little baby getting bedtime stories read to me

https://tenor.com/view/flex-yell-shout-mad-angry-gif-17573975

/s

[somber kraken]

It's pretty amazing how some of the narrators could likely make or break a book by just using stupid voices lol

I guess it's always Gareth Armstrong. Dude's a really good narrator, but man some of his voices are like 2/10

vs Toby Longworth who is absolutely amazing

[nova flume]

what the fk??

is ebook out???/

[slow pilot]

I think there are only 2

[last flicker]

Starting on Horus Heresy, kinda confused on opening chapters to Horus Rising

The Luna Wolves are fighting the Emperors Children in the first chapter, right? they're the only legion I've ever heard of having purple and gold as their armour scheme

[digital saffron]

If you meant the opening battle, those aren't EC, or marines
They're a Human empire that resisted imperial occupation

[drowsy urchin]

it's a silly bait and switch

[latent rover]

Toby longworth and Jonathan Keeble are IMO the two best narrators for 40k books by a LONG shot

[vapid sable]

I was about to say that if there was a 40k movie they needed voice roles

they are the voice of 40k right now

but they were alread VA's in Angels of Death, the Blood Angels series

Sad to remember how good the VA for the Ultramarines Movie was

John Hurt, Sean Pertwe etc

I think Toby Longworth is also the voice of Judge Dredd

[drowsy urchin]

Add Richard Reed to that list

[digital saffron]

Mr Fantastic?

[drowsy urchin]

Not that one

[iron ore]

I think I’ll read cadian blood today

[velvet wagon]

Anyone read the book about the Daethkorps of Krieg?

Is it worth it?

[tall phoenix]

Which one

[wet holly]

"Krieg"?
Not at all imo if youre alr aware how they happend.
Their backstory part is interesting enough but the other half of the book is a mega slog.

[tall phoenix]

Its funny how its from Lyons

aka the only writer that ever writes for Krieg because nobody cares about them, and all his books end up being slogs

[paper maple]

He should just stop, tbh

[velvet wagon]

Aight lol noted

[tall phoenix]

I'd say ONLY read it if you are like a die-hard Krieg fan

otherwise like Dion said you aren't missing much

[vale wren]

Just watch a 20 minute YouTube video where a guy reads wiki articles out loud

Same experience

[iron ore]

Die hard krieg fans when they find out the nazis were the bad guys

https://tenor.com/view/why-crying-emotional-tears-sobbing-gif-17306861

"die hard" krieg fans after I cave their family pet in with a shovel because shovel funny

https://tenor.com/view/why-crying-emotional-tears-sobbing-gif-17306861

[copper lion]

Always remind Krieg fans they are french

[tall phoenix]

CHRIST

[random marlin]

I read:

• Dead Men Walking (novel - 2010)
• Krieg (novel - 2022)
• Less Than Human (short story - 2023)

To me, Death Korps of Krieg were an interesting figure at the start as they were a metaphore about WWI. Their gear incorporate elements of French, German and maybe British soldiers of that war, which is already ironic enough as millions of them killed each other in a futile war, so having fused in one entity could be interesting.

Dead Men Walking is, in my opinion, a good book because it depicts DKOK as dehumanized killing machines which are in a way very efficient and on the other hand very inefficient as their disdain for human lives lead them to having huge losses and making absurd decisions. In this book, they are pitted against Necrons and often it's hard to say who is the most inhuman between the two. We primarily follow a commissar and civilians and how they see the DKOK is... quite interesting. And there's a lot of satirical elements in it, but I won't spoil them.

Let's fast forward 10 years later, and with Krieg and Less than Human, I'm going to assume it's been asked of Stephen Lyons to paint the DKOK in a better light (we want people to buy their models after all!) as his most recent books glorify the DKOK, justifying their genocide on their planet (the other side were not good guys, at least Kriegers are loyal!) and even in Less than Human painting Krieg as the ones worried about human lives as they see them as a useful resource for war. 🤦‍♂️

So, I have the feeling the original message the DKOK could convey has been lost in memes and in GW wanting Krieg to be "cool", which is a shame. I'd still recommend Dead Men Walking, though.

[random marlin]

I like Aaron-Demski Bowden but this book was the average "Badass Cadians are badass and overcome against the odds", as there are dozens of other novels like it. I guess it's good if you want action, I just don't remember anything special about it. I think at some point when they had a new author, he/she had to start with a guard book, so that may be one of the first ADB's book for BL.

[iron ore]

That is ADBs debut book

[burnt ridge]

I was really loving Dawn of Fire for books 1-3

just started book 6 and.... I have serious Black Templar fatigue

3 different Black Templar companies in as many books, there's other damn Astartes to focus on, please

[burnt ridge]

Oh god and I just saw the cover of Book 7 and it looks like it might have more fucking Black Templars

They have however announced the series ends at book 9

[vale wren]

I'm sorry, but that inquisitor (or whoever that is in the middle) looks goofy as fuck 💀

Snoop dog looking ass

[oak pollen]

thats Lord Snoop to you menial

[burnt ridge]

I'm pretty sure it's an Admiral or Ship Master., sounds like the Navy is gonna be striking into the Eye of Terror

[tall phoenix]

Snoop?

HE LITERALLY LOOKS LIKE EDDIE MURPHY

Like EXACT

[vale wren]

Admiral Steve Harvey

[tall phoenix]

https://tenor.com/view/great-excellent-perfect-yeah-so-cool-gif-21201441

[burnt ridge]

He actually looks exactly like Danny John Jules in Blade II (more commonly known for playing Cat in Red Dwarf)

https://tenor.com/view/red-dwarf-red-dwarf-cat-dance-gif-15504134

[tall phoenix]

oh my god that Red Dwarf reference

I'm old

[loud helm]

damn am i wierd? i was like damn he looks cool as hell and its cool to see the imperial navy get attention

[tall phoenix]

Nah he does look cool

its more that he REALLY looks like a few of the actors we listed uptop, like eerily so

[loud helm]

i literally saw the cover and was like damn who's the guy? an admiral? then scrolled down haha

[tall phoenix]

[cobalt tusk]

The space marine is the best looking character on the cover

[digital saffron]

I think the breachers look neat

[tall phoenix]

The space marine is probably the most generic

Everyone else looks awesome

[burnt ridge]

I'm hoping the slight green means it's a dark angel marine or something

Seriously anything but the sword bros

[digital saffron]

Looks to me like an Iron hand?

It's not a templar that's for sure

[iron ore]

finishing the cain omnibus, these books are so fun man but if you've read the first three you've prob read them all

I think I'm gonna work through cadian blood then start the tyrion and teclis omnibus

[tall phoenix]

Yeah they all have the same formula, they aren't books meant to be read after each other.

[iron ore]

You can't stop me from reading through them all in chronological order and then acting suprised that they're all the same book

Wow this peanut butter tastes like peanut butter! Every time!

[tall phoenix]

[iron ore]

Has anyone actually read the 4th eisenhorn book?

I saw that shit was in third person instead of Eisenhorn POV and threw it across the room

[tall phoenix]

which was that book again?

[iron ore]

the magos

by aan dabnett

for some reason he has hair on the cover again

oh im a dumbass it's a short story collection

forgive me for being a fucking dumbass once again

wait no it's a novel?

I don't fucking know and I own the fucking thing

it's a prequel to Pariah got it

[digital saffron]

I can only see Eisenhorn as fkn Jason Isaacs thanks to Miguel

[tall phoenix]

LEGIT

[iron ore]

Jason Isaacs or mark strong tbh

[tall phoenix]

Damn I read that shit when it came out

I do not remember how it was lmao

[digital saffron]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z9nCW6HJsmY&ab_channel=UnlistedThoughts

It would look great

[iron ore]

it's the fucking gardener that gets impressed into service

[tall phoenix]

💀

NOW I remember

it was rough times

[iron ore]

I love the first 3 eisenhorn books despite their rushed endings

1. abnett may write too fucking much but holy shit he's a worldbuilder
2. the dialogue is good
3. it makes me feel like I'm watching Blade and the Matrix as a kid again, it oozes early 2000s gothic slop
4. action is fun

the bad

1. rushed important parts
2. semi predictable at parts
3. holy fucking rushed endings

[tall phoenix]

Yeah uh

reading Death and the End Vol2 rn, basically all these negatives remain the same there too

[iron ore]

I haven't started the assfucking of Terra yet

I want to read my copy of the solar war first (im flexing i have a paperback of it)

[tall phoenix]

600+ Pages of slop

[iron ore]

I LOVE IT

I feel like Damnation of Pythos is the Grunge of warhammer books

Except it's grunge that comes from fake suffering like nirvana and not real suffering like alice in chains yk yk

[tall phoenix]

Yeah wait until you read the thing

[iron ore]

Kurt Russel movie? Love that guy

Man I think I'm getting back into warhammer fantasy

I bought 100 bucks of a high elf army yesterday on ebay

[tall phoenix]

The WHF stuff is really good

especially as a time capsule into that era of warhammer

[iron ore]

Yea even the EARLY gotrek shit from the late 80s goes hard

I much prefer the 2000-2012 period of warhammer (it is nostalgia driven)

Tyrion and Teclis omnibus gonna be priority

[tall phoenix]

They were pretty fun books from what I remember

also Teclis constantly banging women

[iron ore]

no way that nerd is getting any-had to be tyrion

[tall phoenix]

[iron ore]

[tall phoenix]

really tho its a pretty fun book

[iron ore]

I'll be copping it

On ye olde kindle

Love my kindle, thank you Amazon my beloved

[tall phoenix]

Kindle is an ancient ally 🤝

[iron ore]

Saves me from having to spend 500 dollars on horus heresy book number 75 that was only released at golden demon latvia in 2002 or whatever

[tall phoenix]

[bleak void]

I'm seeing a ton of contradictory information

What do I need to know/read before I read Belisarius Cawl: The Great Work

[digital saffron]

At most dark imperium

But that's only because Felix is in them

[bleak void]

Thank you

[nova flume]

Sanguinius 😭

[tall phoenix]

He got his ass CLAPPED

[nova flume]

Bro got nailed up like Jesus Christ 🤕😵‍💫

I’m excited for 3

Coming end of January so don’t need to wait long

Did ppl enjoy 2?

[tall phoenix]

Uhh mostly yeah, but a lot of people also very rightfully said it has too much filler

which I agree with, this book was tiring to read at parts and 2 page long Chapters are not fun lol

[wicked tree]

More tiring than part 1?

[tall phoenix]

yeah Part 1 was at least having something going

Part 2 meanwhile is just "HEY WANNA READ ABOUT WHAT FAFNIR RANN IS DOING"

"Who-"

"WELL HERE YOU GO!"

Also like the same 356th exposition of how the palace is falling and how chaos is totally gonna win

[digital saffron]

Well what was he doing

[tall phoenix]

Killing chaos marines.

And being "UWU WE ARE GONNA LOSE WAA-"

thats it

[severe trail]

Part 2 has too much filler

It’s sort of painful at times

[nova flume]

Yea it’s like a filler season

In a show

I just skimmed the boring parts

[tall phoenix]

Yeah same like

"I wanna read about Sanguinius idgaf about you Samus fuck off"

[hearty niche]

"I am Samus. Samus is all around you. Samus is the man beside you. Samus will gnaw on your bones. Look out! Samus is here."

[tall phoenix]

AAA-

[hearty niche]

"Samus is coming. Samus will find you. Do not scream for Samus will hear. Do not cry for Samus relishes tears! Samus is here!"

[tall phoenix]

Samus from Metroid?

[hearty niche]

"Samus is offended! Samus is shamed! Samus will make sure that you are maimed! Samus thinks you think it's a game!"

[severe trail]

But did you know

He is the end and the death

[hearty niche]

"Yes, Samus is the end. Samus is the death. Samus is the murder, the stealing of breath. Samus is the one that walks behind you. Samus will carve you in two. Samus is coming after you. Samus is here!"

[tall phoenix]

See this is what Abnett does

he turns his readers insane

[severe trail]

Crazy

I was crazy once

[iron ore]

I was there

The day dilara deleted the book club channel

[tall phoenix]

LMAO

[random marlin]

I haven't read Eisenhorn but that's a very good depiction of my experience with Gaunt's Ghosts too (except for the Blade/Matrix part, but that's it).

[burnt ridge]

I regret to inform you that your negligence in reading that which must be read has led to your actions unbecoming of an Imperial Citizen to be reported to the most hypocritical Inquisition. May the God Emperor show you mercy, for they shall not.

[iron ore]

Gaunts ghosts is warhammer sharpe

[random marlin]

(and if only you knew the truth... I started listening to Eisenhorn on Audible but stopped in the middle of the first chapter... Where is your God-Emperor now?)

[random marlin]

That's probably why I don't enjoy it as much as a French.

[burnt ridge]

But why?

[orchid herald]

Gaunt ghost is good but a sometimes a slog. Lots of filler. The lore connection to rest of 40k same as esinhorn is minnimal if not existent due to abnettvurse theory if it wasnt then the guard is way too strong.

[random marlin]

It was a combination of things. It was my first time using Audible and I was doing chores while listening to it. English isn't my first language and, while I have no issue listening to podcasts or movies I've seen already, as 40k is filled with specific words that I'm used to read but not to hear, it was hard for me to listen to it and get what was going on. Additionally, the first chapter presented Eisenhorn as a badass, overpowered character which is not my favorite type of character (this may change by reading the rest of the novel of course) and I had just read one BL novel after the other with that kind of character. So I stopped listening to it and figured I'll read it some other day.

[tall phoenix]

Lmao you'd love the End and the Death

Abnett just opens the thesaurus half the time and uses random ass old english terms

[random marlin]

Sounds like a perfect match for me!

[digital saffron]

I've heard someone say it reads like Abnett trying to show he's better than Fehervari

I doubt it's actually the case but like

[tall phoenix]

[steel arch]

I hear its good

[scarlet zodiac]

Just got "The Omnibus"

Wish me luck on my journey friends.

[nova flume]

My favorite Horus heresy book

[nova flume]

dawn of fire or dark imperium comes first? ive already read a few dawn of fire

[iron ore]

Dark imperium

[languid torrent]

I’ve never read a 40k book where do I start

I’ve only watched YouTube videos about books

[tall phoenix]

We got some good starter books in the pins, check that out

[hearty niche]

Are there any good books focusing on the mechanicus?

[drowsy urchin]

Horus Heresy Mechanicum

Priest of Mars/Lords of Mars/Gods of Mars was a decent trilogy with a pretty heavy focus on mechanicum

strong 7/10

[hearty niche]

thank ye

[wet holly]

They published an Omnibus a few days ago that contains 3 books of them.

[hearty niche]

i hate living on third world country man
searched for the mechanicus book and the cheapest option is 400 bucks in my currency

what the fuck

[tall phoenix]

What the fuck

is this like a digital version or physical?

[hearty niche]

physical

[tall phoenix]

ah yeah that explains it

[hearty niche]

if i had to pay 400 bucks for a digital version i would kms

[digital saffron]

If I had 400 bucks Ii would kms

[scarlet zodiac]

saw these at barnes and noble but didn't grab'em cuz I couldn't find ANYONE on the internet recommending them lol

settled for The Omnibus; as I'm a detective fan.

[languid torrent]

Thank you

[nova flume]

let me introduce you to your new lord and savior

libgen.is

[hearty niche]

DUDE THANK YOU

[nova flume]

only thing id say is, if one day you are in a position to support the authors you should

i used to get books from there but now i buy them since im better off

[hearty niche]

i have a problem that is highly supported by my ego that i like to buy stuff a lot even if they are expensive

so i will end up buying stuff directly from the black library or smtngh

lol

[nova flume]

lol same

[hearty niche]

oh this chat is for actual books. i thought it was for scriptures and grims

gamer brain

[hearty niche]

Lmfao

Today we will discuss the rite 19 of the grimoire, make sure to have a guard at all times with a gun to your head so in case you get possessed by daemons they can execute you

[slow pilot]

The corners of straight silver came bent

[hearty niche]

That happened with my copy of the Night Lords Omnibus

[forest spruce]

The irony

[slow pilot]

?

[forest spruce]

Striaght silver was bent

[digital saffron]

"Straight"
It's bent

[tall phoenix]

Its "straight" silver

[slow pilot]

oh lol

[forest spruce]

[tall phoenix]

[lost condor]

||https://vxtwitter.com/CGTester/status/1722602066374181116||

spoilered just in case. fantastic VA work.

From the End and the Death

[wintry blade]

Man I think im getting close to being out of books for the factions Iike

[tall phoenix]

I may help with that

who are you running out of books for

[wintry blade]

Uhh, orks and tau, and to a lesser extent necrons

[tall phoenix]

Ah damn

yeah uhhhhh

Xenos get jackshit

Orks and Necrons combined got like... 8 books

[iron ore]

read path of the dark eldar trilogy

prob some of the best books for xenos

[tall phoenix]

THAT is a great recommendation.

Also Space Marine/Druk book but

HIGHLY recommend this, super fun book

[patent bane]

and one of them is like a krieg book too lol

[orchid herald]

My personel Favourite SW Books

[upbeat zealot]

Am I the only one who is genuinely annoyed that everytime I want to read about a 'role' in 40k the author always tries to circumvent it?

MY COMISSAR CHARACTER IS DIFFERENT

[digital saffron]

Not really, I mean for the 3 big commissar chars it's mostly just different flavours of commissar

[upbeat zealot]

The point of the most well-known commissar chars is that they don't act like it at all.

[digital saffron]

Yeah they do, Gaunt and Yarrick are both pretty big archetypes

[upbeat zealot]

Gaunt is a military commander.

I won't really call him a commissar at all, even if he is technically called one by the author.

[glass sparrow]

Cain said it best, The commissars that get trigger happy end up in a shallow grave a lot sooner before they even hit the front lines of a warzone then the commissars that don't do that sort of thing.

But for me what really makes an iconic commissar character to me is one that embodies their personal code wholesale like Gaunt does with this banger of a quote from Necropolis: "I am an Imperial commissar. I will enflame the weak, support the wavering, guide the lost. I will be all things to all men who need me. But I will also punish without hesitation the incompetent, the cowardly, and the treasonous."

[upbeat zealot]

True, but Cain is a very unusual commissar and he even says this himself.

But we don't really see Gaunt being a commissar much in the books, which is probably the reason why Dan Abnett introduced actual commissar characters in the later books.

[glass sparrow]

In the early books you see him do some stuff, but it is very apparent that he can't always be there to take care of those kinds of things like you said. Still find one of the funnier scenes in the series being the box scene in "his last command" though.

[loud helm]

idk about the other ones but cain actively outsmarted his drill abbots to not get radicalized and still graduate the schola.

hes actively dishonest (in a good way)

very very unusual for a commissar, and completely misrepresented as a propaganda piece by the imperium itself

[upbeat zealot]

It was funny when he started losing in cards to the Sororitas teacher.

[glass sparrow]

my personal favorite bit about that teacher was Cain's reaction when he found out she and the accountant were a pair.

like his reaction to that was "OH, well shit dude props to you!"

[glass sparrow]

But on the point of Commissars doing the thing that the fan base thinks 99% of them do and act like I remember there being one in Necropolis that was effectively Gaunts rival for most of that book that pretty much acted like that. "Oh your tank just caught fire and you bailed to save your lives? Run at the enemy or I will execute you myself. Civilians are in the way and you will not drive over them? "BANG: I'll do it myself. ||Warp fueled abomination that will potentially kill us all... I will force feed it my arms and this bandolier of grenades along with it. Told you that you didn't have the balls to do whatever it takes Gaunt.||

[digital saffron]

That's one way to prove a point

[loud helm]

fanaticism is one route to courage ig...

[glass sparrow]

that man knew who he was and committed to it to the very end. Gaunt could not deny that at all. He did not like his methods, but understood why he was willing to go so far to secure an Imperial Victory by any means.

[glass sparrow]

I still need to check this book out, but I have 2 other books I just got that I need to finish before doing so

[burnt ridge]

Reading Dawn of Fire 6.... why are Dreadnaughts always so sad?

|| Ancient brother Tauron is worth a whole company of Primaris ||

[drowsy urchin]

you try getting jammed into a small metal box for a thousand years with only cameras to see the outside world you'd probably feel a bit sad as well

[tall phoenix]

its VERY fun

Lukas is a hilarious character and his dark eldar nemesis in the book Duke Sliscus a druk-corsair baron is just as entertaining, they steal the show in every chapter they appear in

[scarlet zodiac]

So is this an actual book club where yall pick a book and discuss it or?

Last post regarding a specific book was over a year ago

[drowsy urchin]

it used to

[tall phoenix]

^

Aqshy got put back to Vermintide and now its on ice

[drowsy urchin]

now it's just a general discuss warhammer books, go!

[scarlet zodiac]

Wdym put back

Oh were they a dev?

[digital saffron]

They were mod staff

Or were they actual FS?

I forgor

[tall phoenix]

Yeah Aqshy is a FS staff member

[scarlet zodiac]

Someone should take up the mantle 👀

[tall phoenix]

man i wish

id actually do it but im extremely busy with IRL work and too depressed lol

[iron ore]

I like books

[digital saffron]

I hate books
I could run it

[iron ore]

Dilara you gotta put the book channel to the sword and corral us all into the lore chat with the other weirdos

Remove our false sense of warhammer security

Throw us into the war

[tall phoenix]

[iron ore]

Anyways I’m caught inbetween starting the Tyrion and teclis omnibus, malus darkblade, or brunner the bounty hunter

Only ever read G and F for fantasy as a kid so yk

[tall phoenix]

Shit i literally got no tips

all of these are great books lmao

literally just pick the one that catches your fancy

[digital saffron]

Which one has the coolest cover

[iron ore]

William king books always having insanely good cover art

[tall phoenix]

yeah i was gonna say

the old mid 2000's covers are great

the modern omnibus ones are just-

[digital saffron]

Yo the Brunner one looks baller

[tall phoenix]

these are a lot more generic

[digital saffron]

So that's where the Saltzpyre career comes from

[tall phoenix]

actually wow you are right

its almost exactly the same

[digital saffron]

eye gud

[tall phoenix]

[iron ore]

They’re designed like that to get people to buy 40k and AOS

That’s my conspiracy theory

[wintry blade]

Yeah that’s the problem

I don’t like reading the 8 million imperium books

[iron ore]

Path of the dark eldar PLEASE I beg of you

I think part of the problem is the path of the regular eldar series fucking sucked and hurt xenos books

Path of the dark eldar series goes hard as fuck

[tall phoenix]

Yeah what Siggy said, try Path of the Dark Eldar

the actual normal Eldar trilogy sucks balls

[wintry blade]

I like seeing stuff from other perspectives besides imperium

And I just like orks lol

[tall phoenix]

lol fair

but to put it into perspective

until like TWO years ago

[wintry blade]

Silly little guys

[tall phoenix]

Orks never got a book for like 25 years

[wintry blade]

No I get it, imperium is the poster boy and everyone else gets Jack shit

Just let mike brooks keep writing them, hes got an interesting story going

[tall phoenix]

yeah its a reality to accept but as you say some people dont want to get Imperium books up the ass

[wintry blade]

Hard to write a book for a race that mostly doesn’t read

[tall phoenix]

Lmao

to put it into a second perspective

the author of Brutal Kunnin only got to write the book because he had to add some Imperial POV to it and also had to call in a favor with someone he knows in BL to get him a shot lol

[severe trail]

Oh hey the book that told us way too much about Teclis’s sex life

[tall phoenix]

I love it

[severe trail]

Teclis has game lol

[mellow knot]

I have been so blessed with my covers. ❤️

[tall phoenix]

You got THE mid 2000's 40k artists 👀

[iron ore]

I was like 13-14 when I saw the cover to Gildar sitting at Barnes and noble and I was in love with chaos for a few weeks because of it

I like only played as them in DOW for weeks lmfao

I picked up helsreach and battle of the fang that day too, and hunt for voldorius and rynns world-and fall of Damnos. Only managed to read helsreach and fang lmao

[tall phoenix]

Lmao happy memories

always love hearing stuff like that, my intro to warhammer was pretty close to it

[iron ore]

The FIRST book I ever read in warhammer was orcslyer and Wolfblafe

Books

[digital saffron]

My intro to warhammer was playing Dawn of War when I was 2-3 years old

And then remembering the first two missions and the desktop icon in 2015

[iron ore]

When I got Dawn of war in 2006 my 2004 dell laptop was an absolute CHAD for running that shit on max

such nice memories

I loved reading my warhammer books through the 2008 financial crisis not understanding what a housing crisis was

Watching the tv as my parents laughed at the Wall Street protests while I read my copy of wolfblade at our summer home

Fond memories

[tall phoenix]

so many memories

[digital saffron]

Ah nostalgia

Now it's
"Time for your monthly exam period!"

[tall phoenix]

god

[digital saffron]

"Oh btw half of them are on Sunday "

[iron ore]

Now I argue with parents about their child's education and keep the youth from bullying me

[iron ore]

lmk if you need papers edited

if you're american

[digital saffron]

Nop

[iron ore]

Dont use Chatgpt to write your essays!

But use it as an editor for sure

[digital saffron]

I have a good enough grasp on the english language to not need it

I mean I got my C1 exam to 97%, gotta mean something right?

[iron ore]

Hell yea

[mellow knot]

LOOKIT THE PRETTY THINGS

I love the Gildar Rift cover. Jon and I were having 2am email conversations about the tiniest of details

[digital saffron]

"I would never fall to chaos"
sees Valkia
"BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GOD"

Still want to see her in AoS

[iron ore]

I forgot you wrote the Valkia book! Hell yea

[mellow knot]

She is kind of persuasive.

[mellow knot]

I did! I even wrote some of it while sitting in Bugman's Bar at Warhammer World. 😄

[digital saffron]

We've at least seen her in Total War now

[iron ore]

There was a guy in the r/warhammer discord that played total war, played as her, bought the model, painted her, then read the book

the GW cycle lmfao, it gets us all

[mellow knot]

It

Oops, silly fingers

It's easily one of the books I've had the most fun writing.

[tall phoenix]

Valkia legit changed my life lol

Was at a very low point in my life so reading an actually empowering female warrior character novel really helped me in a lot of ways

even if shes Chaos

[mellow knot]

I am very glad to have helped.

Honestly, as a writer, that is the best thing I could ever wish for.

[tall phoenix]

You did a lot believe me 🙏

if i wasnt lazy id post the "thanks for changing my life" wojak meme

[mellow knot]

Nah, I'd rather hear the words. ❤️

[tall phoenix]

[mellow knot]

Of course, you can imagine some of the messages from those people who immediately claimed that the whole thing was just a feminist move on GWs part. Man, some of those early messages were... well, they'd be banned from here for a start.

[tall phoenix]

I mean you say that like that fanbase has changed at all.

[digital saffron]

[tall phoenix]

Still sexist to the fullest

[digital saffron]

The non-sexist folks are finally coming in at least

[tall phoenix]

^

the mid 2000's were a much more rougher time

[digital saffron]

I think a good chunk of them are either terminally online or kids, that's how I was until like 2-3 years ago

I do not envy them

[mellow knot]

Being the first female BL author was both an honour and a lesson in how to defend against Awful People.

[iron ore]

You mean this fanbase?

[tall phoenix]

GOD

[digital saffron]

The hell did Brooks do

[tall phoenix]

Exist.

And probably have hands.

[iron ore]

I still laugh I found that in the wolf

Wild

[mellow knot]

It's hard sometimes. All I ever wanted was to make stories that people enjoy.

But then you have to deflect some really awful stuff.

And soldier on.

[digital saffron]

Yeah unfortunately genuine critique is rarer than random shitflinging for whatever reason

[mellow knot]

No word of a lie

I was behind two guys in the bookshop when TGR first came out. One picked it up and was like 'this one sounds good' and the other was 'nah, it's written by wimminz innit, what do they know'?

That was... a thing that happened

[digital saffron]

I recall siggy had a funny story that's similar

[tall phoenix]

Jesus christ lol

[drowsy urchin]

Fucking hell

[mellow knot]

It was hard paving the way, but I am proud that there are a number of female BL authors now.

[drowsy urchin]

🫡

[mellow knot]

I had to take all that nonsense so they don't have to.

[tall phoenix]

Now we are at least getting more female characters and such/centric books

back in mid 2000's 40k this would be almost impossible lol

[iron ore]

minska lensk goes hard

bequin goes hard

[drowsy urchin]

Bequin vol 3 any day now

[digital saffron]

With the amount of foreshadowing atm I wouldn't be surprised if it's Dan's next book ngl

[drowsy urchin]

I sure hope so

Well after TEATD3 ofc

[tall phoenix]

yeah hes making lots of references to the Bequin books

Valdor is literally at a place right now where everything is turning to dust

HM

Valdor is also starting to question the Emperor and gaining even more autonomy

HMMMM

[drowsy urchin]

don't you dare say anything about Vol2 yet, just 5 chapters in

[iron ore]

CIVIL WAR CIVIL WAR

[digital saffron]

I can't believe Sanguinius is the Dark King

(I am kidding if it is not obvious)

[tall phoenix]

I can't believe Sanguinius dies

[iron ore]

I just know Dan abnett wrote 200 pages minimum about sanguinius getting his fucking ass kicked

I’m attempting writing a book right now in my free time after editing a few historical fiction books, I’ve deleted chapter 1 twice

[digital saffron]

It was the strangest erotic m/m fiction I've read in all my years

[forest spruce]

Ive also deleted chapter 1 of my short story multiple times

[mellow knot]

My hard drive died and ate about 32,000 words of one novel if that helps?

[drowsy urchin]

[mellow knot]

Best advice I can offer you in terms of writing a novel is plan it out chapter by chapter because if you don't, your characters go rogue and you can't rein the little fuckers back in.

Also, don't stress it if you have a day when no words come to you at all. For every no-word day, you'll have another one where you vomit a bunch of words onto the page. Write the story, then edit it. Don't do itt while you go along. It took me 4 novels to realise that one.

[iron ore]

This hurt my soul to hear

[verbal junco]

i hope youve roughly storyboarded everything so you dont write yourself into a corner

[iron ore]

Only got the first 1/3 there mentally

[verbal junco]

oof

what kind of book are you writing?

your own universe or a story for a known universe

[elder elbow]

Hey. Someone who’s never read a 40k book. I’m starting with Krieg. Any thoughts on it

[tall phoenix]

do you mean like

Krieg™️ the book title

its such a shit title that I usually dont get if people mean the book lol

[elder elbow]

Yes

[tall phoenix]

Uhhh its okay

It starts of alright but gets generic then a big slog to get through.

not even most Krieg fans really like it

[orchid herald]

It was okay. Book. The flash backs to the past were actually good. But the morden story was kind of shit

[iron ore]

My own

[iron ore]

@tall phoenix sorry to ping you, but gun to my head

Tyrion and teclis
Or
Malus

https://tenor.com/view/nuts-anton-cigurh-no-country-for-old-men-gif-27499167

Call it

[tall phoenix]

Fuck

knowing what your personality is like Imma go with... Malus

I love T & T but Malus has that classic warhammer Lmao Funny Evil plotlines

[iron ore]

We do be enjoying a bit of trickery and perhaps….malice?

[tall phoenix]

A bit of Malusice

[digital saffron]

Malussy

I mean

[iron ore]

Wish he had a model that looked good

Like post 6e model

[tall phoenix]

same

[iron ore]

At last total war exists as a medium

[tall phoenix]

thank god for that

[iron ore]

Alright time for my kindle bubble bath time with malus darkblade

[severe trail]

Maybe with old world

He’s alive back then iirc

[tall phoenix]

Yep he is

he dies during the End Times

[iron ore]

Alright so I read about half the first book last night in the 1.5 hours before I went sleepy snoozy- fucking great time so far

[tall phoenix]

We enjoy heroic protagonists who flay the face of someones fiancee then throw them in the option after laughing at them

[forest spruce]

Truely the greatest hero of our age

[iron ore]

I can see why the dark elfs had a slaneesh problem

Them mfs love torture

[tall phoenix]

all it took was the coomer Morathi to start it all

[iron ore]

Mfs have gooning temples

I’m going on vacation today, I hope to finish both malus omnibuses

[tall phoenix]

🙏

[normal owl]

anyone read 15 hours novel?

[tall phoenix]

I have, whats up

wondering about reading it?

[normal owl]

i picked up a copy from a 2nd hand boookshop

i read deathworld about the catachan

just wondering what 15 hours is about

is it any good?

also cause the first couple of pages of it was missing haha

[tall phoenix]

Its not PEAK Guard story-wise but its a very good read, I wouldn't hold it in high regard but its still a fun time.

It was also the origin one of the worst guard memes where everyone kept saying "all guardsman live 15 hours"

[normal owl]

oh

OH

ok guess i'll have a read

even if a few pages are missing

[tall phoenix]

Wait WHAT

are we talking "missing" as in ripped out?

[normal owl]

ah yea, ripped badly i think by a toddler

but the other pages i skimmed through looks fine

i just picked it up by chance looking for another title haha

[tall phoenix]

Lmao good enough i guess

[fiery canyon]

Question which horror book is your favorite from the Black Library?

For me it's the Perdition's Flame.

[tall phoenix]

Watcher in the Rain for me

excellent audio-drama

[fiery canyon]

I love the voice for Greta Vern. And the spooky voices for the Watcher as well.

[tall phoenix]

it was one of my first audio-dramas for 40k so i got a soft spot for it too so i agree lmao

[fiery canyon]

Have you got ones on Necromunda?

[tall phoenix]

Nope, they are kinda scarce

[fiery canyon]

There's one I got recently called Terminal Overkill.

[tall phoenix]

OH THAT KIND

Yeah I read it in audio-book format its great

[hearty niche]

i wish i could get into audio-books

i cannot unfortunately

damned be my ADHD

[tall phoenix]

yeah its why i prefer audio-dramas

literally a movie but you listen to it lol

[hearty niche]

the biggest reason why i cant get into audio-books is because im constantly thinking "i would be almost X pages ahead if i was just reading"

[tall phoenix]

MOOD

I mostly read 40k from my phone and holy shit i dont notice ı read 100 pages in like an hour sometimes

[hearty niche]

some days ago i got the the book of Khârn for my Kindle and started reading, not even like 30 minutes in and i was already like 40% deep

[random marlin]

I'd say Requiem Infernal for its atmosphere, Fire Caste as military/horror and The Way Out as a more classical horror story.

[potent creek]

If y'all get the time

Check out the twice dead king books

They fuckin rule

I'm mainly waiting for the next black legion book with iskandar kayon

[wet holly]

Literally one of the best stories in all of 40k.
Hot take but the world is so much intruiging if you just focus on the human side of things.
Space Marine Bolter nutting is only interesting to an extent lol

[random marlin]

I share the same view, I also heard a lot of good about Watcher in the Rain and, as I love horror, I'll probably check it out at some point.

[frigid karma]

SM books need a good spin to really stand out. Ex. Fabius Bile

[wet holly]

Ex Night Lords Omnibus lol

Literally it gets so annoying. People seem to forget theres other factions in 40k lel

[frigid karma]

Yeah and there's more stories to tell than Band of Brothers & glorious last stand type shit, but I don't think that's a big issue these days; there's alotta diversity in the BL

[wet holly]

Oh my comment was only so much directed to BL than to the general fanbase.
Its like whenever you meet someone else whos into 40k outside of e.g this discord it usually is either a conversation about Krieg, Steel legion or nonstop SM's.
I understand they are the posterboys but holy does it get annoying.

[frigid karma]

Ohh lol yeah I get you

I guess it's because most of them get into it through the videogames or their homie forced them to watch Astartes and they got hooked

[wet holly]

Honestly?
Couldnt even get into Astartes.
Its cool af, brilliant animation but I think I already mentioned that I am more into story than pew pew and pow pow lmao.

Its crazy good material, and I wont even argue that having a short like that in the first place is neat as hell.
But story is always first for me.
Thats why Watcher in the rain is so amazing to me for example

[frigid karma]

I actually loved it because of it's minimal storytelling, and the little details you can miss on a first and even second watch.

It was honestly a nice contrast to the usual SM material with lots of lofty language and grandeur in the midst of battle. It just shows them being super professional and sending it.

[wet holly]

Oh I absolutly get you.
I mean in comparison its not even that bolter-porn(y?) and I think id still show it to someone who asks what 40k is about.
But overall it just makes me really hungry for the live action movie lmao.

[frigid karma]

Oh yeah I'm really curious how that's gonna turn out, and what story they'll use

[wet holly]

I wonder how theyll market it doe, since I doubt they will disregard broader audiences.
Telling 40k is one thing, presenting it to new people whilst keeping "veterans" engaged is a whole nother story

[frigid karma]

Yeah that's another thing in itself. I'm hoping someone in the room is able to keep things in line and not uhhhh "do a Netflix"

[wet holly]

They should just cast Tom Holland as Roboute Gulliman and be over with it

[digital saffron]

It's going to suck probably

Provided it exists

Because 40k probably doesn't translate well to live action

[wet holly]

I trust Cavill.

[digital saffron]

Why

[wet holly]

He was always about accuracy and is a crazy good actor.

Cant tell how hes gonna be as a producer but my hopes are up.

[digital saffron]

Good actor is debatable

[frigid karma]

Robert Pattinson as Sanguinius

[wet holly]

I think Robert would go hard in 40k lol

The rock as Konrad Curze

[frigid karma]

Right?

[languid torrent]

Is there a subscription service I can pay for that lets me read 40k books because they are on average $10 each and that’s a lot of money especially when one series can have over 50 books

[drowsy urchin]

humble bundle does warhammer bundles like every 3 months so that's probably the cheapest legit way of doing it

I just pay for Audible

[languid torrent]

I wish I had the attention span to listen to audio books

[drowsy urchin]

I don't just sit about and listen to them, can't concentrate on reading so I paint whilst listening to the books

or whilst commuting or going to sleep etc

[shrewd silo]

I listen to them while driving cooking and cleaning

It's how you go though like 20 a year

[hearty niche]

i need books that go low on battle and combat and focus more on the story, any recommendations?

[vale wren]

In the grim darkness of the 41st millennium, there is only war

[severe trail]

Warhammer crime, warhammer horror

Any of the books in those series are much less combat orientated

[glass sparrow]

Audio is my go to format for 40k books as a book helps me pass the time as I work retail.

[wet holly]

Watcher in the rain, do listen to it tho.

Night Lords has fighting but its more character driven.

[iron ore]

@tall phoenix finished the daemons curse, the ending was WILD

|| I wasn’t ready for him KILLING ALL HIS FRIENDS INSTANTLY AFTER HE WALKED OUT THE TEMPLE FOR NO REASON ||

[tall phoenix]

LMAO YEAH

ITS SO FUCKING DUMB BUT FUNNY

[iron ore]

Like it makes sense but I was like OH FUCK OH SHIT WHAT THE FUCK

[tall phoenix]

Malus is the biggest piece of shit there is

[iron ore]

Yea he’s such a piece of shit he did this to me last night

[random marlin]

Peter Fehervari's novels tend to focus more on... existential dread and body horror I'd say? I feel that's a huge oversimplification. But it has well written characters and, although there are action scenes, they're not the main focus of his works. If you like horror, you may enjoy Requiem Infernal for instance.

[hearty niche]

brother let me tell you

i have like 50 books

40 of them are horror books

[random marlin]

Well, then... 😄

@hearty niche As Fehervari's style is divisive (people who click with it absolutely love it, others are indifferent or hate it), you may want to start with a short story, Nightbleed is a more classical horror story than most of his works.

If you enjoy it, then you're in for a treat as he weaves links between all of his stories. This had been unofficially named by fans The Dark Coil. Peter enjoyed it and adopted the term, and a special Dark Coil limited edition of part of his works has been released recently by Black Library.

Basically, all of Peter's stories take place in the same area and there are links between various elements of his stories: places, characters, motifs... So, for instance, if you begin by reading one of his story and then revisit it later after having read other stories by him, you may pick up clues you hadn't noticed on your first reading.

[hearty niche]

i see

thank you for the recommendation :D

[random marlin]

It's my pleasure. 🙂

[mellow knot]

@random marlin - you are the very best of us.

[random marlin]

Oh, er, thanks! Just trying to be helpful. 🙂

[mellow knot]

You give so much of your time to be helpful. And that's nice.

[shrewd silo]

Dune series I just finished book 4 and they all got very minimal combat.

Quickest summary of dune is.
Space empire built on drugs and sex.

[hearty niche]

hm