40k-book-club

[graceful osprey]

they are a little hit or miss. I wouldn't call the series bad but there's been a bit of filler

[tacit raft]

LUL NO

[thorn bison]

It's not as much Primaris propaganda as you'd expect, there's a good bit of Custodes, Guard, Navy, Xenos and Chaos in the books as well

Hell, the second book has a Custodian as the main character

[tacit raft]

Yeah, Custodes and Navy very solid

[graceful osprey]

one of the best characters is a mortal human

[thorn bison]

The Chaos dudes have so far not gotten enough representation in the series to let me form an opinion on them but I like Chaos so I'm hopeful

Hey @mellow knot when you have time, I think adding the Dawn of Fire series to the pinned list would be a good idea, seeing as it covers the Indomitus Crusade which is a pretty big deal in recent lore

It's also a fairly light read so new readers won't be discouraged

[graceful osprey]

hopefully after Arks of Omen the authors will be more free to push the chaos storyline in cool places

[tacit raft]

Lets see what Arks of Omen are, i still know nothing about them

[cosmic stump]

not out yet

[tacit raft]

yeah i know

[cosmic stump]

Abaddon doing bad things

[graceful osprey]

yeah they haven't revealed much, aside from the promise that it will explain the next stage of Abaddon's plans yeah

[cosmic stump]

whether he got a few Space Hulks or dead Craftworlds

no one know what these Arks about

[graceful osprey]

basically he meets a dark mechanicum chaos demigod vashtorr, who helps him convert a fleet of space hulks

and he's looking for artifacts for some reason

[tacit raft]

is it in Dawn of Fire first book said that Abaddon ||planned to surround Terra with Cadian pylons, to make it isolated?||

[cosmic stump]

this Vashtorr just jumped out from nowhere

[cosmic stump]

nope

Emperor's Legion

the Custodie book

[graceful osprey]

yeah Vashtorr is a brand new character, they previewed a tabletop model for them/it

idk what it is exactly

[tacit raft]

I just forgot, that i read it

auric gods

etc

one read book as i say

[graceful osprey]

Vashtorr is described as a sort of unaligned arms dealer of chaos

their ultimate goal is to ascend to true godhood and Abaddon is willing to do some mutual back scratching

[thorn bison]

This is unironically the best possible description of him

I love it

He's an opportunist

Of multi-dimensional proportions

[graceful osprey]

lot of speculation on dark mechanicum as a potential future faction now

[cosmic stump]

give us Emperor's Children first

[graceful osprey]

Emperor's Children will definitely come in 10th

if the dark gods favor you earlier in its lifespan than World Eaters did for 9th

[mellow knot]

Give me your tasty one-paragraph summary

[thorn bison]

On the way

The Dawn of Fire novel series broadly covers the Indomitus Crusade and the various factions that take part in it, as well as their exploits to unite the Imperium in the aftermath of the Great Rift.

Might be a bit long but this covers it I think

[mellow knot]

Perfect. I shall go update it now

Done. If I get nothing else done today, I have done that.

🙂

For any new arrivals in the chat, the pinned list of suggested intro reading has been updated, so here's a fresh reminder of the link.

https://pyroriffic.wordpress.com/warhammer-40k-reading-starter-list/

[past gazelle]

Had some folks here and on the heretic bird vox-caster recommend Gaunt's Ghosts as a first jump into the world after really enjoying the atmosphere of Darktide. About half way through First and Only and loving it.

[vagrant siren]

The Ghosts books are fantastic as an entry point

[past gazelle]

Had no idea Abnett also worked on this. It all makes sense.

[vagrant siren]

His Inquisitor-focused book series', Eisenhorn, Ravenor, and Bequin trilogies are also absolute gas

especially given, y'know, in Darktide we're running around for the Inquisition

[past gazelle]

Yeah, I think that'll be my next jump whenever I get through these.

I wanted the baseline/soldier perspective first.

[vagrant siren]

A very good plan 😉 hehe

You'll definitely find some interesting character crossovers amongst the books, mind 😛

Abnett loves pulling his characters across from other books, and it just makes everything feel a little more interconnected and rich

[past gazelle]

Yeah, makes sense

[molten token]

Just finished Xenos, looking forward to the rest of the Eisenhorn series!

[swift beacon]

i swear i hope the 10th edition does csm justice. My night lords, and alpha legion couldn’t catch a W lately

[thorn bison]

The Night Lords desperately need a continuation of the Talos Valcoran story

I mean, ||I know he's dead and all but his successor had a cool-as-hell introduction and then nothing was ever heard of him again||

[swift beacon]

I hope so, with the release of 10th edition. I just pray, we get some new lore.

[glass lintel]

I don't think 40k handles Star Wars - style lineages well. There's so much difference in timescales, tech, current models, and author that they usually fail pretty harshly. The Primarch books and Horus heresy are excellent examples of that.

The Night Lords have managed to make a bunch of heavy hitters - Sevetar, Talos, Lucoryphus - with no more relation between eachother than being coworkers at some point. There's a lot of great potential in different viewpoints of similar doctrines, beliefs, and factions.

[wicked tree]

Admittedly you should be able to find that in every legion

Amongst their brightest stars

[swift beacon]

Funny enough, every legion hasn’t touched their main characters story for a long time except the blood angels, ultramarines, and dark angels in 40k settings. Also i can officially say Alpha Legion has been getting some love now

[cosmic stump]

even Imperial Fists?

I want to see Salamanders the most

Fabius and Lucius both got their own books as well

[modern swift]

Alright went ahead and got the first 2 books in the gaunt's ghosts series, first & only and ghostmaker but I noticed that there are 15 books listed for the series, is that correct? starting from 2000 all the way to 2015.

[cosmic stump]

yes.

all the way to 2019, in fact

16 books

[modern swift]

Is there a good stopping point in it? I'd like to read other things like some books about the sisters of battle etc or should I just read all of this series before moving on?

[cosmic stump]

first three are fine

I actually recommend you Necropolis the most, which is the third book

but having a marathon of 16 books is pretty hot

[swift beacon]

I can only think of Sigismund and Tu’Shan from the Salamanders. They haven’t been touched properly after years

[modern swift]

Alright, I'll rea more than 3 but 16 was a bit much, for now at least.

[thorn bison]

Didn't Sigismund literally just get a novel this year?

It was good too

[swift beacon]

did he? it’s been a while

[thorn bison]

Sigismund: The Eternal Crusader

May 10th 2022

[random marlin]

There's no obligation to read all the series at once. The characters are memorable and you won't forget them if you make a break and read something else. Moreover, as each novel is a distinct military operation, you won't get lost if you stop for a few weeks/months between two books. It's not Game of Thrones-like with complex web of intrigues.

[wicked tree]

Not to mention Dorns novel featured Sigismund heavily

[craggy bone]

for me it was Traitor general. After that book for me it felt like a big drop in quality. As others mentioned at least read up to Necropolis, by far my favorite Gaunt book

[graceful osprey]

the physical copies are broken up into collections, you could read an omnibus at a time

[thorn bison]

The first three books are arc number 1 of 4

[graceful osprey]

fair warning Eisenhorn has sequel series, between Ravenor and Bequin its up to 9 novels with a 10th to be written

[proven spoke]

still waiting for that last Bequin book.

[hearty niche]

I was just wondering are there any trader Guard books?

Been wanted to learn more about them

[thorn bison]

Traitor Guard? There probably is but those books will be pretty old by this point since I've never heard of any

Traitor Guard feature in a whole bunch of novels but I'm not sure they have any where they are the main focus

[hearty niche]

Damn :/

Also fuck just realized I spelled traitor wrong

[primal forge]

Hey! Just realized about this channel 🙂

Any chance we are getting Gaunt Ghost's cosmetics?

Big fan of the saga here

[thorn bison]

I don't doubt it, they'll probably put something in

[wicked tree]

Tbh, for DT veteran cosmetics, I was shocked anything beat DKoK for the second round. ‘cause DKoK fans are numerous, loud and ravenous

[austere wagon]

probably saving that for when they release a new class, get as much exposure for it as possible when more people return to the game

[shrewd silo]

I'm not sure about traitor guard but I have listed to guants ghosts upto his last command.
They fight the blood pack traitor guard but not really from the traitors perspective.
In the book traitor general you have them on a chaos controlled world and get to see tons of interesting stuff like implanting chaos worms into the populations skin to track them and stuff like planting alien fruits that destroy the soil but grow huge amounts of food very quickly and worms that can telport resources by eating/drinking them and crapping them out in other planets.

Also a bit of info on the sons of sek and why the blood pact are so dangerous

[full condor]

I just finished my collection! all 9 horus heresy campaign books hardback

• the art books and the supplments

[swift beacon]

Finished listening to Konrad Curze. ||Do you guys think that was truly the emperor speaking to Curze in the end?||

[cosmic stump]

Bloodpact?

so far I only see Gaunt's series have Traitor Guards as their main enemies

since Astartes would just mopped the floor with them

[crisp geyser]

I do in all honesty, not reason for it not to be imo. Unlike with the vulkan/magnus interaction there is no other witness so no reason to really show some sort of alternate vision.

[snow heath]

I want to read A Way Out but I’m trying to figure out if there’s any books I need to read before or after. I’m currently on Book 2 of Gaunts Ghosts. Those are my first Warhammer books.

[random marlin]

A Way Out is a self-contained story afaik.

[rancid goblet]

Does anyone have some recommendations for 40K books?

[drowsy urchin]

have you read before?

[rancid goblet]

Yes

[drowsy urchin]

ah, was about to say if you're a 40k first timer there's a handy pinned message for that

[rancid goblet]

read the Eisenhorn books the infinite and the divine Deathkorps and the Belisarius Book

[drowsy urchin]

if you liked the infinite and the divine I'd recommend Twice Dead King 1 and 2

or Ravenor if you liked Eisenhorn

[rancid goblet]

I actually have the Twice Dead King Books

[drowsy urchin]

I really liked them so give them a try if you've not yet

[rancid goblet]

I will check them out have a lot of time soon

[austere wagon]

Helsreach is really good. Centred on the battle of Hive Helsreach, Orks vs Space Marines and Steel Legion

[languid dirge]

plus its Black Templars and not the Ultramarine posterboys.

[void stirrup]

Black templars WERE the poster boys at the time. Before them it was Crimson Fists. Ultramarines became poster children for both popularity and actually being a good fit

[sharp radish]

So is it fine to pick and choose horus heresy books or do I have to read all in order because i'm not done with disworld yet

really intrested in the magnus stuff

[static basin]

Better start from the begining, books 1-5 are really good coherent story

Then it kinda branches a lot, some are totally skippable, like the abyss or assassins one

All books written by ADB are must read tho

[glass lintel]

Third Ciaphas Cain book, unless you count T'au-sympathizing PDF as "traitor guard".

[thorn bison]

Traitor Guard specifically refers to Chaos traitors iirc

[jaunty stratus]

Ciaphas Cain is the obvious choice as a recommendation from my side

[austere wagon]

make sure you give Know No Fear a go, that was really good. Written by Dan Abnett.

[spice zenith]

the new bookclub stuff was sent?

[viral hollow]

I found my very old white drawf and citadel books this morning

i miss the 90s

[jaunty stratus]

Was it? Don't think so. Aqshy said it will take some time, this time

[spice zenith]

Asked if i mizzed it cuz i was sick and got severl pings from here

[midnight wind]

They're not all Warhammer books but I was doing maintenance on my books today (dusting and whatnot) and the number of Warhammer books I own dawned on me. First top 3 rows and the two to the furthest left. Not including the 8 ebooks

[next cloak]

Quite new into Warhammer. Started reading Horus Rising, first 20 pages in and I'm reading how ||Horus' Astartes are just turning the false emperor's troops into mush with their bolters.|| ||Which got me immediately thinking -- doesn't this guy have his own Space Marines?|| I guess not, if he's not the same person -|| he wouldn't be doing the whole gene therapy hobby.||

[thorn bison]

Nah, the|| "False Emperor" is just some dude who claims to rule the galaxy but really doesn't, his troops are just normal people like you and me||

It's a bit of a joke really, ||seeing as they refer to him as "The Emperor" despite him not actually being the Big E himself||

Only ||the Primarchs have space marines at this point in galactic history because no one else has mastered gene modification like Terra has||

[next cloak]

Nice, good to know. Thx!

[mellow knot]

I have at least one story in a book on display there. Glee!

[frail tundra]

im looking at the recommended book list and am wondering if there is an entry that would best give me more info about Nurgle or the monsters in the 40k universe?

[thorn bison]

Lords of Silence is a book that follows a Plague Marine Warband if you're up for space marines

It touches on many of the aspects of Nurgle and the utter ridiculousness of their mutations

[austere wagon]

Just finished Horus Rising recently for the first time myself. If you continue to read... ||the "false emperor" comes across as a kind of weird mirror to the God Emperor on Terra, whom Horus and the other Primarch and Space Marines are loyal to.||

[midnight wind]

How do you add the spoiler thing?? I wanna contribute to this LOL

[mellow knot]

Use || either side of your text

Or if you’re using a phone, select what you want to hide and from the menu that pops up, click the arrow and choose ‘mark as spoiler’ 😉

[midnight wind]

Ah perfect, thank you

[midnight wind]

I found that the best entry into warhammer are podcasts, and then get into the books. I can recommend some podcasts/ youtube channels

[frail tundra]

thanks will give that a go

[frail tundra]

my friend and i are looking to do a book club thing of sort so would prefer that format over podcasts, but if there is a lore video or two that you recommend i'd love to check them out

[midnight wind]

There's quite a few, so it would be easier to name the sources. You probably would have heard of them already as they're memtopmed a bunch here, but Adeptus Ridiculous and Luetin09 on Youtube

[midnight wind]

I'm not sure about Nurgle monsters, but maybe Dark Imperium trilogy? I know they fight death Guard so maybe there's some nurgle beasts there

I think there's a ook of the death guard fighting the Tau too, but I'd have to find the name

[frail tundra]

all good it's gonna be our first book on the 40k universe so just want some pointers. and thanks for the channels list, will check those out

[midnight wind]

If you can get your hands on them, or the ebooks, look up the primarch anthologies, or just get the Heirs of the Emperor which has 3 books in one

They're a good look into at least the Primarch aspect of the universe

Anthologies in general are a great place to start because they cover so much ground

[frail tundra]

interesting, i have looked at a few pages on the wiki but sure would love to read more, will add these to the list thanks

[loud viper]

One of two 40k books that shall begin my journey

Sisters of battle Omnibus is the 2nd book. Enjoying traitors rock so far

[steady pebble]

Traitor rock is really good, if you want the precursor of Minka Lesks journey then I recommend Cadia Stands followed by Cadian Honour

[loud viper]

I always been a lore nerd when it came to video games. Darktide was the catalyst that finally got me to read more of the 40k verse

Also the barns and nobles didn't have a big selection of 40k books

[whole ore]

i dunno i listened to the audiobooks for Minka Lesk and traitors rock is kinda depressing

But I loved the all guardsman party... eh it's more comedy

[heavy juniper]

sisters of battle omnibus is good fun 😀

[timid cove]

Hello! I will be collecting info of those who participated in the Dec discussion next week. Next read scheduled TBD as I want you all have your vouchers first so you don't have to purchase the next book.

[cobalt siren]

If I were to watch lore videos, would the impact of reading the books be diminished?

For example, talking about the Horus Heresy books

[timid cove]

I don't think so. If anything it probably adds some more flavor

[thorn bison]

Merry Christmas and Happy Sanguiniala to you all!

[random marlin]

And a Merry Christmas and Happy Sanguinala to you too! It's so great to have our annual additional 20 minute break to celebrate the Emperor today! Almost feel like vacation (which would be heresy, so no, but still!)!

[heavy juniper]

merry grotmas to all

[sturdy stump]

Question for my fellow readers.

In Guant's Ghosts, Try Again Bragg is described twice as wide as a man and over two meters tall.
Now I know this is not Ogrynn size

But does he get the Honorary golden star from pointy hat man?

[thorn bison]

Probably not, he's not a complete moron like ogryns are, he's just really bad at aiming

Sure, he's not the brightest light of them all but he's still regular human smart, just on the slightly lower side of the spectrum

[proven spoke]

Dont remember that in any of the books, so nah.

[whole ore]

Merry Christmas!

[slow pilot]

Christmas

[cobalt siren]

Noice! 😮

[thorn bison]

Very nice! You're in for a ride

[fierce hollow]

[slow pilot]

I'm reading steel tread first

[ornate moth]

Just finished Horus Heresy: False Gods. The last words of the book gave me fuckin chills.

“The Istvann system”

[thorn bison]

Gods, what I wouldn't give to experience those three novels for the first time again

[slow pilot]

What should I read first

I'm thinking steel tread

It will be my first 40k book

[thorn bison]

I thought you already decided?

[thorn bison]

Anyway, read Avenging Son, that's what I think

Up to you though

[hearty musk]

Merry Christmas boys

[nova flume]

Gods? purge this heretic

[split idol]

Got steel tread for Christmas we gonna be reading good

[fallen vortex]

Can anyone suggest a 40k book w Harlequinn content? I just realized I forgot a present for one of my friends. I am bad friend >_<

[cosmic stump]

well he's actually good, since he usually hit the target in his second try

[cosmic stump]

The Masque of Vyle

[past gazelle]

Not me listening to Cadia Stands while playing

[heavy juniper]

picked character with cadia homeworld?

[oblique ember]

I really hope they continue with Warhammer crime. It's pretty good as a series

[past gazelle]

Finished First and Only today, loved it.

[past gazelle]

And yes lol

I’m not really understanding when the loss of Cadia occurs and if it’s referenced in the ghosts series at all. Writing style is very different between Hill? and Abnett. Not sure if I’m risking any “spoilers” jumping into Cadia Stands at all

[void stirrup]

So the entirety of the Gaunt's Ghosts series, and the Sabbat Wars, takes place before the 13th black Crusade. When Cadia falls.

Different areas of the Imperium too

No real overlap

[thorn bison]

Like 300 years before, right?

Or is it 100?

[simple cedar]

I second that. It has been phenomenal so far.

[simple cedar]

Justin Hill does phenomenal work. Traitor Rock when you get to it is one of thee best guard books of them all.

[past gazelle]

Cheers. I'm still super early on in Cadia Stands so it's hard to get a good feel yet. Definitely has that hurry up and wait vibe of the US Army from what I know of it. So it's still very much in the wheelhouse of stories centered around the guard that I'm enjoying. Abnett really captured Band of Brothers in 40k feel I appreciate.

[simple cedar]

I think you'll like it. I definitely hope you do. Let me know when you get it and let me know what you think when you finish it. Take all the time you need.

[frank mirage]

Found this little beauty at my local gun/key/tabletop shop

Expected it to be a notebook but it's the full handbook haha

[thorn bison]

That thing is ridiculously rare

The fact you found one is incredible

They go out of stock instantly when they come back into rotation

[frank mirage]

nice

25€ well spent

the information within is both hillarious and super cool

damn i just checked and some people resell it for over 100€

the guy in the store also gifted me a small astartes miniature as my first one

[worthy flame]

There has been cases where it’s been way higher

Hold on to it well m8

Good find

[frank mirage]

it is a very cool find i will definetly take good care of it

[random marlin]

What did you enjoy in Traitor Rock? For me it was ok, but can't say I've enjoyed it much.

[simple cedar]

The level of violence. The pacing was good. Combat was wonderful. I feel it really showed off 40k quite well. Characters were fun.

[fickle egret]

worth buying the eisenhorn omnibus ? is everything in there if you want to read the trilogy anyway

[royal egret]

Yeah

[graceful osprey]

what eternal said, just remember the ravenor trilogy comes before eisenhorn #4

also has an omnibus that's worth buying once you get to it

[fickle egret]

would be my first book series, and i think i would just read the omnibus and then the ravenor books before going over to gaunts ghosts

[graceful osprey]

yeah eisenhorn is a good place to start. the fourth book was written later and it's pretty common that people read 1-4 without realizing they should read ravenor

[fickle egret]

i could do it but im really really bad at putting books down once i start... :)

[graceful osprey]

after eisenhorn #4 there are two bequin books, so really the full abnett inquisitor series is up to 9. the original eisenhorn or ravenor trilogy are good places to take a break though and read other stuff

[fickle egret]

i figured... i will see, what the money available says how much im gonna read in what time :)

[swift beacon]

so far i’ve finished Alpharius, and Sanguinius primarch book. Which primarch book should i read next? I’ve heard Fulgrim is pretty good

[hearty musk]

Perturabo

I also liked the Dark Angel one but it’s brief

[wicked tree]

Yeah Pert's is good. Magnus' wasn't bad either.
I personally found the Lions to be boring and full of eye rolls, mostly because 30k DA doesn't interest me.
Jaghatai's is good and serves as a direct prequel to Scars

[void stirrup]

As a Guilliman fan, his book is boring and bad

[swift beacon]

alright thanks guys

[sand dagger]

@swift beacon better to post this here than in the lore channel

[swift beacon]

jesus christ lmao @sand dagger

[sand dagger]

https://tenor.com/view/my-man-my-man-hd-my-man4k-gif-23532578

Soul Hunter

[swift beacon]

https://tenor.com/view/warhammer-emperor-warhammer40000-warhammer40k-astartes-gif-14334202

have to man

[sand dagger]

Started Blood Reaver walking to work last night

Just on chapter 1 but man

[swift beacon]

amazing book

[sand dagger]

Does Aaron know how to set up scenes

His writing style is so immersive

[swift beacon]

i swear especially the talon of horus

that intro was something

[sand dagger]

What do you think would be a good point to jump into that series?

I've still got a chunk of Flight of the Eisenstein left of the HH Epic

[swift beacon]

well this takes place after war of the beast

[sand dagger]

Oh, my

[ornate moth]

As someone who knows roughly the events of the HH, and only now am I listening to the series (Currently on Galaxy in Flames) I can’t wait till I hear about the epic escapades of Nathanial Garro in Eisenstein.

Yet his self titled book is tens of books away in the series

Ah, chapter 3 in lupercal court. The man has arrived!!!

[crisp geyser]

I have like a unhealthy amount of warhammer audio books on audible lol

[last jacinth]

Are the horus heresy books available via audible plus?

I couldn't find anything directly saying yes or no when I tried googling it

[void stirrup]

You can get any audible book with your monthly credit. If you are asking if they are in the group of books free with membership? No. The ONLY series I can find that is, that has enjoyed any modicum of success and isn't public domain, is The Runelords.

[last jacinth]

Thank you

[left meteor]

What book should I read first to get updated on current events?

[thorn bison]

Avenging Son

It follows the Indomitus Crusade

Though it's part of a series

[heavy juniper]

if you instantly want to get a nice pile of 10+ books to read to get an overview of current 40k you could do like, cadia stands, vaults of terra series, watchers of the throne series, devastation of baal (and maybe dante before it), dawn of fire series, belisarius cawl the great work

[gloomy mountain]

half way through but hard to find the time

[vital lodge]

thats so rad, I have the old edition of it, so beautiful

found it at a second hand book market in a country town

the things u find

[lethal lintel]

Is Matt Ward as bad as everyone says?

[vital lodge]

phwoa

[wicked tree]

Depends on how much you like the Ultramarines I suppose

[lethal lintel]

They honestly kinda mid compared to the other chapters/legions

[wicked tree]

Fair, essentially. As far as lore can't speak to his rule writing the UMs were given questionable levels of plot armour for a time

[rustic relic]

only true patricians listen to the audiobook alongside the text

now that we're on the subject I do believe the biggest reveal for the talon of horus trilogy is that Khayon has been lying to us the entire time and that he either isnt in the custody of the inquisiton in the first place or is shortly due to break out

[random marlin]

Ok, thanks for your answer. 🙂

[storm dock]

it did have some good pacing

[cosmic stump]

or Guilliman is sitting next to the Inquisitor and listening to all those "the age of Primarchs has gone"

I do have a feeling that the last book of the trilogy has being cancelled

since the background has drastically changed now

[thorn bison]

I think It'd be funny if they released it anyway

As a sort of return to simpler times

[simple cedar]

You're welcome

[lavish badger]

Any recommendation of newer audiobooks? Preferable something that's not HH and not too shooty.

[fathom tapir]

Bloodlines broke my immersion by using the word 'Fuck'

[thorn bison]

I think I've read that word once in all of the 130 BL books I have

It's mad how they come up with anything to avoid saying it

But you also know that shit is serious when someone does say it

[fathom tapir]

It get used a lot in bloodlines, same as shit. But shit is probably more tolerable.

[thorn bison]

That one is far more common since it's much more pale, so to speak

[mellow knot]

Not using it was certainly a house rule when I signed my first contract - I presume that’s changed a little now.

[thorn bison]

Authors probably have to petition James Workshop himself for the right to use it nowadays

It's a dangerous word and no mistake

[mellow knot]

Bloodlines is one of the Crime line so it may be subject to different rules

[hearty niche]

Anybody got any book recommendations for a Khorne fan?

or for Blood Angels

[thorn bison]

Kharn: The Red Path, while admittedly an old book (and the only Khorne themed one I've read) it's still pretty good in my opinion. It's about Kharn and killing a bunch of people in classic blood god fashion

[maiden cairn]

Just started the Gaunts Ghosts series on Audible and enjoying it a lot so far

[torpid badger]

Just finished Cadia Stands and loved it. Any other good "boots on ground let's get mulched for the Emperor" recs?

[glass lintel]

I desperately want to Quantum Leap into some BL editor and just slip that into some Calgar or Abaddon dialogue.

[random marlin]

I found Cadia Stands too action-heavy for my taste with virtually no character development because of it.

Here are others I think you may like, even if I didn't for some of them:

• Cadian Honour: the 2nd Minka Lensk novel, less action heavy, provides an interesting view by following both Minka Lensk and a citizen who has a very interesting arc.
• Traitor Rock: the 3rd Minka Lensk novel, very action heavy too, by the same author. Justin Hill goes back to focusing on battles.
• Steel Tread: following the crew of a Leman Russ after the opening of the Great Rift. Strikes a nice balance between action (very nice and intense battle scenes) and character development (the crew is composed of people from various worlds which leads to a lot of conflict).
• 15 Hours: an iconic guard book, but this one is much less heroic than Cadia Stands and the others cited above, as it shows what the guard is like for a fresh conscript whose regiment is mistakenly dropped in a battle zone where new recruits last 15 hours on average.
• Dead Men Walking: same than 15 hours, much less heroic and grittier than the average guard book. Focuses on the DKOK and shows how inhuman, effective and pointless their methods can be.
• Catachan Devils: focuses on Catachans fighting Ork Kommandos.

There are of course a lot of other guard books, but it should be a good starting point! 😉

[graceful osprey]

those are good recs, Baneblade for more tank stuff and Gaunt's Ghosts if you want a long series to dig into

[random marlin]

I don't know why, I automatically assumed @torpid badger had read GG already, that's definitely a very good rec too if you haven't. 🙂

[native steppe]

I just finished Cadian Blood. Not a bad book either, has quite the twist to it.

[random marlin]

This one's on my reading list, along with The Infinite and the Divine. 🙂

[torpid badger]

thanks for the recs!

[wheat garnet]

so i've always been a warhammer fantasy person but darktide has peaked my interest in 40k

what'd be a good book to start with? (i'd rather the book didn't have space marines tho. zero interest in them)

🤔

[thorn bison]

The Infinite and The Divine is a good start for people who are anti-marine

[wheat garnet]

thanks! really appreciate it. i'll look into it

but yeah it's not that i'm anti-marine, specifically. it's just that the whole super soldier thing is incredibly boring

[random marlin]

Check the pinned messages in this room for more recs, marine-free! 🙂

[wheat garnet]

ty

this one sounds like it might be a winner

[random marlin]

I think I'm the one who wrote this small blurb, I definitely recommend it, especially as Adrian Tchaikovski is a renowned author outside of Black Library and it shows. 🙂

[wheat garnet]

nice

[sand dagger]

What aspects of 40k do you like the most?

[proven spoke]

I read it, its certainly a very unique one in how you get an insiders look on GSC. I enjoyed it quite a bit.

[left meteor]

Book newbie here. Are there any books about the Iron Warriors before and after they turned to chaos?

[swift beacon]

there’s a couple

the best one i could say right now in my mind is the primarch book Perturabo

there are 3 HH books i would say, but i think you’ll be missing some context

[lavish badger]

Chaos and Imperium-that's-not-SM-or-Guard. (Nothing wrong with SM and guard, but they already got a lot of material)

I really liked the Crime novels, and already read the Inquisitor novels by Dan Abnett.

[swift beacon]

i’d would say bloodlines, if you enjoy the Crime novels.

[lavish badger]

Already read it. Think I got all Warhammer Crime novels by now.

[swift beacon]

damn that’s crazy

let me think

[sand dagger]

Then i’d recommend Soul Hunter and Day of Ascension personally

From what i’ve been reading

[lavish badger]

Day of Ascension sound good, thank you. (Soul Hunter is indeed great. 😁)

[swift beacon]

have you read the watcher in the rain?

[lavish badger]

Not yet. Do you recommend it? (I'm somewhat hesitant on the short stories. 11€ for 74 minutes feels a bit steep)

[swift beacon]

there are some great twist for the story. But, in this case. Nah i wouldn’t

[stuck raven]

Just got through Requiem Infernal, a truly fantastic book quite different from regular 40k books , any recommendations of things similar to that?

[lavish badger]

"The Reverie" perhaps, also by Fehervari.
I liked Requiem Infernal more. But Reverie is also a horror novel filled with strangeness and solid writing and a multi-levelled story.

"Fire Caste" is also good, with a nice fevered atmosphere

[graceful osprey]

if you like genestealers I highly recommend Cult of the Spiral Dawn by Fehervari

[graceful osprey]

the Dark Coil (Fehervari's semi-connected stories) has a bit of a cult following, his writing is kind of more experimental for 40k. if you're looking for more scary stories Warhammer Horror books tend to be good

Cult of the Spiral Dawn for example takes place on the same world as Requiem Infernal but in the future and it has a guard regiment from Fire Caste, details like that

[wheat garnet]

thanks :)

[graceful osprey]

sadly there aren't many gsc books but the few we have are above average

[wheat garnet]

they seem interesting

[cosmic stump]

Lucius: The Faultless Blade

[proven spoke]

Kharn Eater of Worlds

[cosmic stump]

are there any good Eldar books for recommendations?

both Dark Eldar and Craftworld are fine

[graceful osprey]

ok so there's two trilogies

path of the eldar

path of the dark eldar

path of the dark eldar is by andy chambers and I hear its great

path of the eldar is by gav thorpe and I...have not heard its great

[cosmic stump]

yeah I have read that one

Gav seems didn't like Eldar very much

[graceful osprey]

haven't gotten to them myself so I can't really weigh in but yeah there seems to be little love for gav thorpe's books from eldar fans

[cosmic stump]

while Dan Abett and ADB didn't write Eldar books, the Aeldari in their works are pretty decent

but back to the question, we haven't got much Eldar books these years, apart from Ynnari books

[graceful osprey]

I hear Valedor by Guy Haley was good

[cosmic stump]

ah yes

[graceful osprey]

Idk if this is necessarily a hot take but I've always been a big Guy Haley fan

[cosmic stump]

BL used to have pretty good books about Elves

[graceful osprey]

feel like he's probably up there with Abnett and ADB and Wraight

[cosmic stump]

but it seems they don't have much love for Eldar

yeah he's cool

[graceful osprey]

the last I remember eldar being prominent in the lore was during pyschic awakening and the reception was real bad

constantly writing them into a corner, taking forever to update their models because 'they don't sell'

maybe eldar is destined to be a niche faction but they barely try

[random marlin]

I'm replying to myself just so you can see the original message, @lavish badger @graceful osprey: if you have a couple of minutes to spare and if you haven't done it already of course, feel free to share what you think of Peter's works on sites such as Goodreads and/or Amazon. For such an overlooked (but talented) author, it'll help a lot. 🙂

[fallen lava]

Dont know if this is the right place, but I was wondering if anyone could recommend a good book / series of books to start with for 40k. There seems to be so many and I'm not sure if they are connected or where to start lol

[drowsy urchin]

Check pinned messages :)

[fallen lava]

Ah, thank you! Appreciate it

[stuck raven]

Just picked it up, thanks for the recommendation. Will report back when it's done!

[random marlin]

As I've stated with my previous message, if you liked Requiem Infernal, and it seems like you have, feel free to leave a review on Goodreads or Amazon. There's a good chance Peter will read it and it'll make his day. 😉

[lofty basalt]

I wish there were more books from the ork perspective

[hearty niche]

There’s Ghazghkull, Engine of Mork, Brutal Kunnin, Evil Sun Rising and Deff Skwadron

[random marlin]

Not exactly the same, but there are also books which have orks as POV characters, such as the quite ancient Imperial Glory and the very recent Catachan Devils.

[jaunty fern]

"I pointed my shoota and I was like, DAKKKA DAKKA DAKKKA an all the Umies died."

[storm orchid]

So as someone who has Not read any 40k books What would be a good and Not to confusing Start?

[graceful osprey]

check out the first pinned message in this channel. it's a great list the community here compiled cause this question gets asked a lot 😄

[storm orchid]

Thanks

[graceful osprey]

no problem! there are a lot of 40k books, so there's no wrong way to start. go with what interests you most and the more you learn about the setting the easier it will get to choose your next book

[storm orchid]

Def gonna get the ciaphas cain books

[graceful osprey]

hero of the imperium! the cain series is a classic

[timid cove]

<@&1016281173720309760> Confirms have been sent out via DM; please send me a message if I somehow missed you (some of you do have DMs closed!). Please wait up to two weeks for your voucher as I need to arrange with GW this time to send them out.

[spice zenith]

Hi i didnt get confirm

[timid cove]

searching for you now

[rotund cloud]

Is this for anyone in book club?

[queen kettle]

I just got The Infinite & The Divine

Heard some really good things about it

Also just started the Cadia Stands Audiobook

[random marlin]

My DMs are indeed closed.

[timid cove]

Anyone can participate, but the DMs should be sent to people who participated in #1047432215589552138

[lofty basalt]

Based

Oh were there discussion threads? Neat

[lofty basalt]

If you like the 'Crons, Twice Dead King: Reign and the 2nd book Ruin are pretty good too.
Interesting look into necron society, before and after biotransferrence

[lofty basalt]

It also has a lot to do with that aspect of the necrons

[hardy kelp]

Guy Haley is a topg

[thorn bison]

Ruin is the first one, just so you remember

[verbal cove]

I didn't get a DM either

[lofty basalt]

Oh yea, I was just looking at my ebook list lol.

Have any yall read Daemon World? That was my first intro to 40k.
Fuckin crazy story

[rustic relic]

fanjtastic novel, loved how it showed a chaos world for regular humans

[timid cove]

did you participate in the #1047432215589552138 last month?

[slender willow]

Honestly only CSM (or near it) one's I've read were Lords of Silence and a part of Talons of Horus

Pretty good though

[onyx cave]

Looking forward to participating

[rapid scaffold]

Inspired by Darktide and the rejects, i am giving this old pal another readthrough

[jaunty stratus]

"... his characters actually sound like real people" lol

[orchid herald]

One of the best 40k boots out there .

[tardy pecan]

when are we actually beginning discussion for infinite and the divine? i already own it, and want to do a re-read before we begin!

[stark relic]

i recommend nexus and other stories. it has my favourite w40k short story

[slow pilot]

I already started steel treads

[stark relic]

also it gives you a nice taste from all the points of view from the w40k universe

alright! have a good time reason :) haven't read that one myself

reading*

[slender willow]

Infinite and the Divine was good as well

Very much a nice POV for the Necrons, even if it's not two "traditional" Necrons

[verbal cove]

Ohhh darn, I didn't. No worries, thanks 🙂

[pulsar totem]

I enjoyed it

[spiral panther]

I‘m currently waltzing my way through Gaunts Ghosts. I hope Pandemonium releases soon 🥲

[sterile shuttle]

whats the best book with orks in them

[random marlin]

Depends of your taste, but Brutal Kunnin was very fun. If you want a more "serious" take, there's also Ghazghkull Thraka: Prophet of the Waaagh!.

[random marlin]

Myep had also given several other titles.

[sterile shuttle]

i want to get into the mind of an ork

become one

[random marlin]

And I also added this, two other novels with Orks as POV characters.

[random marlin]

I don't know if this is a good idea :p

[shell spruce]

Storm of Iron is a great post-heresy read regarding the Iron Warriors

[proud drift]

thinking of rereading that one. it's been 10 years, should be pretty fresh

probably forgot most of the details

[slender willow]

I've heard iffy things on Gaunt's Ghosts is it still worth the read??

[rapid scaffold]

Brutal Kunnin' one of my favorite books, good choice

[random marlin]

It will mostly depend of your taste and what you're looking for. What would you like to find in GG and what did you hear?

[rapid scaffold]

Imho Gaunt's Ghosts are a very good ready, until the very last novel. Which was a rather big letdown for me personally

[slender willow]

Heard it was sorta exceptionalist for the titular IG unit, that they do a buncha stuff that normal IG simply don't do
Honestly I'm looking for a book that'd show me more perspectives on IG

[random marlin]

Did you explore the link in the pinned messages? There are a few recommandations there for the Guard: https://pyroriffic.wordpress.com/warhammer-40k-reading-starter-list/ 🙂

[wicked tree]

If you’re after a wide variety of guard perspectives than an anthology may be what you’re after.
Like Shield of the Emperor for example

[random marlin]

If you want some more recommandations, I had posted this a few days ago:

I found Cadia Stands too action-heavy for my taste with virtually no character development because of it.

Here are others I think you may like, even if I didn't for some of them:

• Cadian Honour: the 2nd Minka Lensk novel, less action heavy, provides an interesting view by following both Minka Lensk and a citizen who has a very interesting arc.
• Traitor Rock: the 3rd Minka Lensk novel, very action heavy too, by the same author. Justin Hill goes back to focusing on battles.
• Steel Tread: following the crew of a Leman Russ after the opening of the Great Rift. Strikes a nice balance between action (very nice and intense battle scenes) and character development (the crew is composed of people from various worlds which leads to a lot of conflict).
• 15 Hours: an iconic guard book, but this one is much less heroic than Cadia Stands and the others cited above, as it shows what the guard is like for a fresh conscript whose regiment is mistakenly dropped in a battle zone where new recruits last 15 hours on average.
• Dead Men Walking: same than 15 hours, much less heroic and grittier than the average guard book. Focuses on the DKOK and shows how inhuman, effective and pointless their methods can be.
• Catachan Devils: focuses on Catachans fighting Ork Kommandos.

There are of course a lot of other guard books, but it should be a good starting point! 😉

[slender willow]

Honestly completely spaced that there may be a pinned message

Heard good things on the Lensk novels, those are generally on my list
Steel Tread I already have, very nice novel that shows what it's like for armored crews
Never read 15 Hours though

Neat

Thanks

[random marlin]

yw 🙂

[sand dagger]

Next book for book club is Infinite and the Divine?

[random marlin]

It is!

[sand dagger]

Lovely! Good excuse for me to finish it, do you have a link to a post on how this works?

[rapid scaffold]

general question : Do you lot have books in pysical form or do you have a lot of ebooks? I eventually settled for ebooks, because i ran out of space

[sand dagger]

My entire 40k collection is digital, but there are books i intend to acquire in physical format

[rapid scaffold]

cramped it all in there and i simply don't have room for more. And i have another seperate shelf kinda deal with my berserk and warhammer fantasy novels

[drowsy urchin]

Pretty much exclusively audiobooks

• whatever books have been digitally available on humble bundle

[rapid scaffold]

i have yet to check out any audiobooks, ngl. And yeah humblebundle is a godsend for 40k stuff

[loud niche]

Where'd you get that space marine figure at been looking for one like it for a bit now

[rapid scaffold]

They are both Mc Farlane ones

got them off german amazon

but i want a joytoy DKOK one next

[loud niche]

Alr awesome thanks 👍👍

[rapid scaffold]

something like that

joytoy got heaps of wh40k stuff as well, better looking than McFarlane imho but a bit more expensive. So you might find what tickles your fancy there

[cosmic birch]

Hey general question to peeps who read a lot of 40k books, I got my dad two of the Eisenhorn books, Xenos and Malleus, to try and get him into the franchise (did research on good beginner books) but he's talking about how they keep using really confusing verbiage or words he doesn't quite get. Are these actually good books for beginners or were there better options? Should I have also sent him like pdfs of the newest general codex too?

[thorn bison]

I'd say Avenging Son, The Infinite and The Divine and Horus Rising are good beginner books for someone who doesn't understand many of the words and terms they use in 40k, also because they are books that don't necessarily need any prior knowledge on who, where, when or what anything is.

If he doesn't think it's too much trouble I would suggest that he checks the Lexicanum wiki website if anything is particularly confusing.

The Eisenhorn novels are much better for folks who know a little about 40k and want to know more but imo they're not good for someone who is getting introduced to 40k for the first time.

If anyone else here wants to add anything to what I've said I think that would help a bunch

[cosmic birch]

OH I see the clarification about the Eisenhorn novels makes total sense I see, thanks a bunch of the recommendations I'll write em down. Yeah he just burns through authors constantly so I figured getting him into Warhammer books would give him a lot to work through haha

[thorn bison]

Oh yeah Warhammer has a ridiculous amount of both books and authors to write them so if he gets stuck in he will have a whole lot to do, that's for sure!

[cosmic birch]

Sorry last question @thorn bison , out of the three you recommended, which would you say is the BEST for someone who likes space/alien stuff like Starship troopers and Alien, but isn't familiar with a lot of the space fiction terms? I'm gonna gnab on of these today to send to him and I figured I'd narrow it down a bit more.

For reference I watched Bricky's video on all the Space Marine Legions with him the other day and he likes Space Marines, particularly the Blood Angels, Space Wolves, Salamanders, and Raven Guard

[thorn bison]

I'd probably say Horus Rising since it follows humans and it's got an air of mystery about the story, like some things don't feel quite right. Those feelings will be realized if he continues to read False Gods and Galaxy in Flames right afterwards.

That trilogy is what kicks off the entire Horus Heresy series as well so it would be a good place to start in general

The space marines mainly featured in Horus Rising are the Luna Wolves/Sons of Horus legion

(They're the same legion with different names if you or he isn't aware)

[zenith mountain]

Honestly Ciaphas Cain is a solid starter

The core rulebook is another "welcome to 40k"

[meager trench]

I'll always recommend the old Bill King Space Wolves trilogy, as well as Calgar's Siege

[restive onyx]

Your dad would probably enjoy the more human-focused stories in 40k. Not the stuff with Astartes and Inquisitors but instead the Imperial Guard books. Gaunts Ghosts is good. It may be easier for your father to get into the world because most of the imperial guard gear is essentially a pallet swap for military gear he'd already be familiar with.

Don't jump down my neck, I get the difference mechanically but narratively a lasgun is the equivalent to a standard issue army rifle. :)

[slow pilot]

is there any hard cover lore book i can look at like the ones they did for elder scrolls

the ones with entry's and pictures to go along with it

[thorn bison]

I'm pretty sure that's what the codexes are for

My 8th Edition Guard codex has a bunch of lore and details on them, I'd assume all other codexes are the same

[thorn bison]

I knew I'd missed something obvious. The Guard are a perfect choice for someone who likes Starship troopers cause they're more or less the same thing.

[slow pilot]

Internet says 9th is 70 bucks

[golden portal]

A question to ye, considering the whole "new terms/vast universe" hurdle for some newer reader, do you think a good 40k book is one that your able to clearly envision the terms being referenced without relying on some background reading material/summary?

I don't think so since a lot of sci-fi does this, breezes past descriptions of devices/place names/institutions. Perhaps that's my own bias speaking and I can certainly see how daunting it must be in hindsight. I'm curious what y'all think anyhow.

Currently reading Assasinorum:Kingmaker and it handles this balance very well, but is a little slow because of it

[copper sphinx]

I haven't really had trouble, I just make assumptions

Promethium for example

I'd say it's relatively obvious fuel or something flammable

Either way I recommend ciaphas cain

That book explains a lot of the phrasing in the footnotes on each page

I have been reading scifi and playing scifi games for 15 years plus at this point though

So my view is defi tainted by general experience with science fiction

[restive onyx]

I think 40k isn't great at describing their tech on a book-by-book level. Most books assume readers already know what the terms mean and just use them without describing anything. I feel like authors subconsciously, or consciously, rely heavily on the tabletop for visual reference. They don't need to describe a boltgun, for example, because anyone can google a picture of a boltgun.

It can be helpful to read a 40k book with a "40k terminology dictionary" open next to you. :)

[golden portal]

ooh, a 40k encyclopaedia would be so awesome

[sand dagger]

@swift beacon about to finish Blood Reaver!

[thorn bison]

That it would! In the mean time, I'd like to direct you to the digital one, the Lexicanum

I think a physical encyclopaedia would be troublesome as GW constantly changes and retcons things so something that was true when the book released could be incorrect a year later.

[sand dagger]

Yeah, imagine if GW made physical books that get outdated with time

https://tenor.com/view/darktide-ogryn-bernie-gif-27192884

Wait a minute..

[thorn bison]

Yeah yeah you're hilarious

[sand dagger]

Sad thing is i’d still buy one

Sounds like a great coffeetable book

[thorn bison]

Oh yeah so would I

I just think it would become less and less reliable as time moved on

[sand dagger]

Then it’s value would only rise as Archaeotech though

Win/Win

[thorn bison]

Damn I didn't consider the Archaeotech perspective

[golden portal]

Oh believe me, I've had to frequent lexicanum many times, for astartes weapon jargon especially, maybe a physical can be fashioned as a relic, kinda like the guardsman training manual

[restive onyx]

I'd buy every edition of a fully illustrated encyclopedia/art book of Warhammer 40k terms. :)

I've always loved the artwork of 40k.

[golden portal]

dude, the most recent codices?!!?

[restive onyx]

https://warhammer40k.fandom.com/wiki/Warhammer_40k_Wiki is pretty good.

[golden portal]

such beautiful artworks

[restive onyx]

Oh yeah. I get tempted to buy codices for the side panels and art alone. :)

[gleaming fractal]

howdy 🙂 recently got into warhammer, drawn in by some youtube video about the lore haha makes me wanna read the books! wondering if anyone can suggest where to start? whats the first one i should read? seems like theres a lot, and internet resources all suggest different things... v confusing haha

[golden portal]

welcome to the fold!
Lotta genres and flavours, of the things said in the youtube vid, what faction caught ur eye? best to start there

[sand dagger]

Really depends on what appeals the most to you. Factions is a place to start, nothing wrong in watching a few lore videos on youtube to get the ball rolling. A lot of the books assume some level of surface knowledge, though there are a few that are friendly to newcomers!

[gleaming fractal]

@golden portal @sand dagger @restive onyx i guess im interested in how the whole empire started, it seems a little confusing to me, thought maybe a book could explain a little more, and naturally, coming from a DND background, im very interested in what the elves are like in this world vs forgotten realms

[restive onyx]

It's really more of a pick your poison. There's tons of books at this point, covering most major factions and xenos races. What parts of the lore do you like the most so far? As soon as you start naming things, we can start throwing recommendations out. :)

Are there many lores that are as vast and documented as 40k at this point?

[gleaming fractal]

i mean, the Dungeons and Dragons lore goes pretty far and vast, but im starting to think Warhammer might have it beat lol

[restive onyx]

I'm sitting here contemplating how much has been produced exploring the 40k universe by now (table top game, movies, tv shows, books, games) since 1987 and having my mind blown. ;)

[gleaming fractal]

facts lol

[restive onyx]

Maybe Starwars, too. A lot has been written about Starwars.

[sand dagger]

A good book to start with, that many will recommend, is Horus Rising

It tells the beginning of the backstory to the current status of the setting of the Imperium of Man

Mind you it’s the first book in a series that currently spans 40+ books

[gleaming fractal]

@sand dagger ooo thank you thank you! that sounds good, ill grab that one n see how it goes fukit lol

[sand dagger]

I’m currently on book 4 of the series myself

[gleaming fractal]

nice! ill take it its good then lol

[sand dagger]

The first 3 books are amazing

I’ll have to finish the 4th to give my opinion

[restive onyx]

+1 to Horus Rising. I have read and can recommend the first nine books in the series. :)

The Flight of the Eisenstein (4th book) is also great.

[sand dagger]

Currently on chapter 8

Decided to come back to it and finish it before i start the 3rd Night Lord book

[restive onyx]

First and Only, first book of the Gaunt's Ghosts series, is a great book focused on the Imperial Guard.

[thorn bison]

There's a list in the channel pins that covers good newcomer books, you should check that out as well!

[cunning loom]

Anyone else read Fifteen Hours

[cunning loom]

I enjoyed it for what it was

[tacit raft]

Its grim

thats for sure

[cunning loom]

Although at one point the tech priest mentions a lot about their manufactorums and judging by what they say there is a lot of them, and seeing the size of a manufactorum in darktide makes me wonder since the guard regiment left in the city doesn’t seem to be big enough to guard hundreds of those unless they are smaller variants

[restive onyx]

Scale is always a problem in 40k. Realistically, most numbers given are too small by at least an order of magnitude.

[golden portal]

Power levels too

Titan gets blown up by 3 orks a squig and a grot lmao

and is also an invincible god-machine the next

[cunning loom]

Does that set precedent for playable titan in darktide

[restive onyx]

Probably not. Tertium isn’t a forge world. Not to say a titan won’t be deployed eventually but right now what’s going on in dark tide isn’t worthy of more forces.

As bad as dark tide is, it’s not as bad as some of the other stuff going on elsewhere in the imperium.

[cunning loom]

No it’s a joke that one of the playable dlc character classes is an imperator titan

Because it’s ridiculous

[restive onyx]

I get jokes! :)

[languid urchin]

After reading Necropolis what's happening on Tertium is a vacation in comparison

[eternal kraken]

Would anyone know of any good books on the imperial navy? something kind of like gaunt's ghosts, only about the navy instead. I know it's a bit of a long shot but I thought I would ask anyway

[rose abyss]

GW barely tolerates the fact BFG existed, they're not in the business of giving novels to parts of a setting they want to bury.

[restive onyx]

I haven't read them but there was a few books and short stories put out about the Gothic war: https://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Gothic_War_(Novel_Series)

[eternal kraken]

@restive onyx Thank you man, I really appreciate it, I'll definitely have to check it out

[random marlin]

I did, and it's a shame there's not more Guard books like it, emphasizing the propaganda and horrors of being in the Guard with satire. I especially liked ||the scene explaining how the administrative error happens, the one with the guy who has to write victories for the bulletin and the moment where they have to call on vox the artillery division hammering their position because "it's the orders, and orders are not to be discussed".||

15 Hours is probably the spiritual father of the regimental standard, which was a lot of fun too but has been discontinued by GW. For those who don't know it, it was a serie of articles linked to GW news which were written like Imperial Guard propaganda with a healthy dose of satire in them.

Here are some of them:
https://regimental-standard.com/2020/03/11/grot-or-guardsman/
https://regimental-standard.com/2018/09/26/managing-your-canid/
https://regimental-standard.com/2019/07/10/talking-to-your-ogryn-about-heresy/

[cunning loom]

They discontinued it??

[random marlin]

Sadly, yes, the last one was mid-2021 (July 21 2021) if I'm not mistaken and there's not been new ones anymore.

And it seems that the Warcom articles kind of took inspiration from it in the tone of their most recent articles, so keeping the regimental standard would probably be redundant.

[cunning loom]

For anyone who has read Cadian honor, do you remember the mentions of the || planet El’Phanor? Am I interpreting it correctly that they are resettling it to make a New Cadia? ||

[random marlin]

I don't remember unfortunately, but if you're right, it's a good catch. 🙂

[cunning loom]

|| the beginning starts with it describing the ruins of it after the 4th black crusade and then how they start putting algae on it and that it’s pulse starts again. Then at another point some character mentions it’s on the shortest path to terra and it’s part of the new Cadian gate ||

[limpid star]

Has the january book started?

[random marlin]

Makes sense then! I didn't catch this at all, but I don't see why they would mention it if it has no impact in the future.

[random marlin]

I don't think so. Just started The Infinite and the Divine, so I hope it won't start immediately. 😄

[rapid scaffold]

I reead the entire Last Chancers Omnibus in like the span of two days. Haven't read a 40k Book in a hot Minute and now i am hooked again. Got plenty of books to choose from that i already own...probably going to reread brutal kunnin' next

[slow pilot]

are there any good zombie books that involve the militarum

[cunning loom]

Zombie books?

There’s a Ciaphas Cain story called Old Soldiers Never Die

[rapid scaffold]

i know there is a soul drinker novel that features something like zombies, but i can't remember any specific guard being around

spacemarines, inquisitor and retinue and adeptus sororitas

and the section in question is rather short as well, been a hot minute since i last read it though

[eternal kraken]

@slow pilot I haven't read it yet but look up a book called Cadian Blood by Aaron Dembski-Bowden,I just ordered the book myself really looking forward to reading it.

[hushed aurora]

Bloody thieves, i was just ordering some books and delivery used to be free for orders above 50 euros now they made it above 100....

take my money i guess

[limpid tiger]

a

[hollow igloo]

Does anyone have any suggestions on 40k books if im a Death Guard fanboi?

[cunning loom]

Have you tried google

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2022/01/05/learn-the-foetid-secrets-of-the-death-guard-with-black-library/

@hollow igloo

[hollow igloo]

Oohhh ty

[cunning loom]

No problem

[thorn bison]

Lords of Silence slaps btw so you should pick that one up

[slow pilot]

where did you find it

[eternal kraken]

@slow pilot I got really lucky man,I found it on ebay being sold by someone on the other side of the country lol,it's used but I only payed 25$ AU for it

maybe try amazon as well man

[slow pilot]

its 10 used on amazon

20 new

[eternal kraken]

really? is that in the US? I'm in australia

[slow pilot]

oh its us

20 freedom bucks for new

on its way lol what are the chances that there would be a book for the exact type of story i was lookign for

[eternal kraken]

ah haha,I thought I might of got ripped off for a sec!

[slow pilot]

i preordered Assassinorum Kingmaker also

[eternal kraken]

I know right,looks like it will be good

[slow pilot]

i am reading steel tread right now

[eternal kraken]

oh,I don't know that one,might need to look that up. I mostly just love reading about the guard

[slow pilot]

https://www.amazon.com/Steel-Tread-Warhammer-40-000/dp/1800260849

[eternal kraken]

I really liked that one,was cool reading from the point of view from the tankers

[slow pilot]

Just started

[eternal kraken]

if your anything like me I'm sure you will like it,I just started reading Gaunt’s Ghosts now

[slow pilot]

Can't find the whole series

Is cadia stands the fall of cadia books

[eternal kraken]

I think so yeah

[slow pilot]

So many books I want to read

Are there zombies in steel tread

[eternal kraken]

I thought the character Minka Lesk was kind of cool as well,really liked our story

her story''

[slow pilot]

I love the militarum

[eternal kraken]

same man, I feel like the guard is a lot more badass then the space marines

[slow pilot]

@eternal kraken im confused i just started steel tread and it went from ||her tank being destroyed to her on a chopper. was she rescued or was that a dream?||

or did it jump to the past

[graceful osprey]

jumped in time, there will be more details later

@slow pilot

[slow pilot]

Are all warhammer books written in 3rd person

[versed vapor]

No

[slow pilot]

I haven't seen any first

[versed vapor]

Spear of the Emperor is in first person

Flesh and Steel, and the Eisenhorn series are in first person too

[eternal kraken]

@slow pilot hey man,yeah like Draik said this was one of her past battles. wasn't a dream! it did happen

[slow pilot]

I was a little confused for a sec

[graceful osprey]

the Ravenor books shift from third to first person depending on who is the focus

[restive onyx]

I've read the first book, Ravenor, and it is good.

[hearty niche]

@timid cove Do we have any idea when or how we will be receiving in game goodies with the book club? Since we don't have our discord accounts necessarily tied to our darktide account

[timid cove]

Hey, hopefully in the next 2 weeks, I need to sit with the devs next week and see if it's easier for me to drop them into your accounts manually or whether we can give a key you can claim.

Same with the Black Library vouchers. GW should have vouchers for me to pass out in that timeframe as well.

[hearty niche]

Awesome! Appreciate the work and effort you put into this niche here. Honestly the book club with book vouchers / ingame goodies is a HUGE win for Darktide. I talk about it constantly with my buddies, wonderful idea that encourages reading, engagement of the 40k universe and a way to get people into the hobby! Darktide might have its fair share of criticisms, but this book club idea I have never seen before with other games/communities and it is something you hold over the competition. Keep it up!

[timid cove]

I appreciate that; thank you! ❤️

[thorn bison]

We're getting in-game goodies as well? Oh boy, now I'm even more determined to stick with this club and see where it all goes. After all, it's been fun so far so who says it can't continue to be so?

[keen cave]

I'm an absolute idiot; Does anyone know if we have a 'Due date' for The Infinite And The Divine, yet?

[timid cove]

Not yet, will set one up once I give out vouchers

[keen cave]

No rush! Just wanted to make sure I wasn't missing something. Thanks again!@

[cosmic stump]

"I, Cato Sicarius, title, title, title, has fallen"

[slow pilot]

What?

[cosmic stump]

Fall of Damnos, which wrote from Cato Sicarius' POV

and his opening lines is that "I, Cato Sicarius", the list of his titles, and as the greatest space marine, was currently has his face rubbed on the floor by Necrons

[slow pilot]

What are you talking about.

[fierce hollow]

my frcollection of books

[sand oriole]

Interesting

What's a necron novel like without the slapstick of Trazyn and Orikan?

[drowsy urchin]

very interesting it turns out

the two twice dead king books are extremely good and a bit more serious in nature than The Infinite & The Divine

[cosmic stump]

in Mephiston: Revenant Crusade, there are some good scenes about a Necron court

say you need to go through a series of Kowtow to finally see the Phaeron, and the first part itself took 7,000 years to wait

[lusty bobcat]

How does one join this book club 👀

[random marlin]

Here’s how aqshy explained it to me:

sure, so the book club works like this:

• Each month we announce a book and then a date is scheduled to discuss that book.
• On that date (usually about a month after the book is announced), we open a channel to discuss that book.
• Participate in the discussion to earn "points". Participation earns a voucher towards the next month's book, and after you reach a certain number of points, you get an in-game reward 🙂

[cosmic stump]

in-game reward👀

[thorn bison]

I'd laugh my ass off if the in-game reward is just a book as a head piece

Kinda like the Saltzpyre one

[weak terrace]

is there a way to get ahold of warhammer 40k books without having to spend 15-30$ per book?

like some kinda e-library or book rental program

[thorn bison]

Buying them digitally is usually much cheaper than getting them in physical form, I personally don't read e-books but I've heard Audible might have some Warhammer stuff

[weak terrace]

ya i checked audible and they were still like 20$ for just a virtual reading n so if im payin nearly the same price id rather have the actual book for a library

books got so expensive

like double the price they used to be

[urban violet]

Has anyone read Throne of Light?

[restive onyx]

Have you tried your local library?

Also used bookstores.

[weak terrace]

hmm actually i havent checked a library, didnt really think 40k was something i could find there

id have to look up used bookstores i dont know of any but that would definitely be worth it if i can find some there

[restive onyx]

You may be pleasantly surprised. :)

My libraries have a lot of stuff.

[weak terrace]

anytime i pass a goodwill i always check them but ive never found a 40k book in one 😦

i found the original halo books in one, the first 3

[restive onyx]

But yeah, other than that you're probably stuck buying them new. :/

There's always piracy, of course, but you'll have to figure that out for yourself. :)

[weak terrace]

anyone sellin their 40k books here? 😄

[thorn bison]

I have, it's a good book and a very good continuation of the Dawn of Fire series

[urban violet]

Are tau in it? someone's describing pulse fire punching through armor as a reference

i'm just surprised

[thorn bison]

No T'au, but there's a lot of Inquisition and CSM featuring in it

[thorn bison]

Now that I think of it, there is one character who uses a T'au pulse rifle but they aren't T'au themselves

That's probably what they mean by pulse fire

[urban violet]

copy. weird

thanks

[hollow steeple]

Hey all, just noticed that this channel exists and wondering if anyone can tell me what it's all about. Do we read one book and discuss it on certain days or talk about which books we personally read or give recommendations?

[thorn bison]

This channel is for anything and everything concerning the novels of the Black Library

If you want to ask for help on finding books, want to talk about one you're currently reading or simply want to talk about WH literature and authors, you can do that here!

[slender willow]

Here's a small thing

[thorn bison]

Khorne dreadnought?

[slender willow]

Nope

Just a very, very corrupted reference to the God-Emperor

Well

Not to the God-Emperor himself. Moreso to the Primarch than anything else

[thorn bison]

I'm guessing the primarch is either Sanguinius or Angron

[slender willow]

Nope

lol

[thorn bison]

Man this is quite confusing

[slender willow]

When I wrote it, I never actually specified who they were Successors of

...it's Ferrus Manus
He's the Red God, since when he was murdered he was covered in his own blood

[thorn bison]

Ooohhhhh, that's actually pretty clever

[slender willow]

I know the names don't really connect to any of the Iron Hands styles

But that's primarily under the concept that, upon all the Iron Hands having collective seizures and going "REMOVE THE FLESH", a subsect sort of ran off into deep space to go be a Fleet-Based Chapter without ever...you know. Asking for permission

Hence why they hide the fact

[thorn bison]

Makes sense, I wouldn't want my real creator knowing I betrayed them to go do my own thing when I wasn't allowed to

[slender willow]

Honestly was a fun time writing them
Cured boredom many a time

[thorn bison]

I'm going to be honest, when you posted the text I thought it was a BL author who had written it and you'd just pulled it from a book, but you writing something of that quality is mighty indeed

[slender willow]

Why thank you!

For that I'll get out another excerpt

[thorn bison]

Again, it reads like any BL book I could pull off my shelf. You've really got a way of making the story consistently interesting instead of building up to something of super-interest, only to come crashing down into boredom afterward

I like it a lot

[slender willow]

Honestly I was writing it with the eventual intention of publishing
Then I realized I was writing a Homebrew Successor Chapter SM story for Black Library
I've since uh...sort of stopped writing for it

Because it'll never get published or anything of that sort

[zenith mountain]

Don't let that discourage you

[thorn bison]

That's a shame albeit understandable considering what GW likes to do with fan projects nowadays

[zenith mountain]

Lemme put it this way

GW doesn't publish by quality

it's a nepotistic, mismanaged circlejerk

Write for your own enjoyment and the love of the setting

because god knows a great many fan writers are overqualified compared to some of GW's stable

[slender willow]

Really quite depressing

[zenith mountain]

even darlings like Guy Haley are getting their jobs because they churn out bolter fodder rather than because of their talent

so you can do better

Write the best 40k story you can dream of and share it with the world

[slender willow]

Was considering jumping out into their new Successors Compilation book, but then I heard it was "Canon only"

Which uh
Yeah
Either I'm writing something that has no other information and was just a mentioned name at some point or I'm trying to write someone else's shit and that's just...not appealing I guess

[thorn bison]

I can't speak for everyone here but if you do decide to finish it one day I would be honoured to read it.

[zenith mountain]

If it's any consolation?

There are horror stories about how GW treats folks.

So write your own thing for the love of the setting, knowing that it's probably better this way.

[slender willow]

Fair fair

Just that the idea of getting published is something I really like
And I really like 40k, I like writing for it and just going through things.

Well in any case
This was how I started my writing

[zenith mountain]

That's fair and if you go in eyes open, good luck to you and more power to you

just be aware that it's nepotistic, that there are horror stories, and that writers have been driven off by their bullshit

constructive crit: the description of the ship reemerging feels a bit clunky/unclear

[slender willow]

I mean
I figured GW sucked left and right but hell
Part of me always hoped BL would have room to not be shit

Oh 100% was supposed to feel unclear

I don't want to start off a novella by going "A ship emerged from the warp"

[zenith mountain]

def evocative

[slender willow]

Thank you

[wanton girder]

How does the Twice Dead King series compare to the Infinite and the Divine?

[slender willow]

Apparently it features a deadbeat Necron

So that's funny

When I say deadbeat...gimme a sec

Can't find the darn quote

Apparently features Silent King's cousin who just speeds up his sense of time whenever battles happen
Someone else here mentioned it but now I can't see where, sadness

[wanton girder]

Awesome, I will definitely have to check it out.

Though, I'm trying to decide if I finally want to start tackling the Heresy books instead.

[slow pilot]

I'm on page 69 (nice) of steel tread and it's pretty good so far.

Took a little while for the plot to start though

[slender willow]

Good book

Very good book

Sorta weird at some bits but nice

[slow pilot]

||the operation just started where everyone is leaving base||

It started on page 69 lol

Nice

[random marlin]

Well, it's nice to get character exposition as well as see what the situation is and what's at stake before delving right into the action. 🙂

[weak terrace]

for the imperium and for chaos, which primarchs have shown up again/are still alive?

[restive onyx]

Imperium; Roboute Guilliman is alive and active. Lion El'Jonson, Jaghatai Khan, Lemon Russ, Vulkan, and Corvus Corax are all currently missing but are not confirmed dead.

Chaos: Lorgar, Magnus, Mortarion, Angron, Perturabo and Fulgrim are all still alive and are various kinds of Daemon Prince.

[fleet arrow]

Anybody like the crime novels I’ve only read bloodlines but Chris wraught is on par with guy Haley and Dan abnett, first book I read by him

Also just read avenging son

[wicked tree]

Yeah Chris Wraight, delivers some top novels. Best example is his White Scars arc in the HH

[fleet arrow]

Is the master of the hunt one? Cuz I have that book just haven’t read it yet

[wicked tree]

Nah I believe that's 40k and a different writer. Though I've heard it's not bad

[fleet arrow]

Yeah I just ordered the dark imperium books trying to catch up on the ultrachads

[cosmic stump]

Corvus is basically inside the Eye and seeking Lorgar

as it was said in Shadow of the Past

[clever kayak]

has anyone ever listened to the Vox audio dramas on Youtube?

Iirc, there was even one 40k version of a Xmas story involving a very grimdark Santa Claus

[glass lintel]

I love that The Khan is just wrecking shit in the webway while dunking on Drukhari in battles so fast, they probably need to take the Dragonball approach to animation.

https://tenor.com/view/dragon-ball-cell-vs-goku-goku-vs-cell-super-speed-dodge-gif-23821389

Webway gates are kinda like Tombworlds, in that theoretically any random peasant could just dig a bit too deep while plowing a field and open up a Narnia closet that a primarch just strolls through while covered in blood.

[thorn bison]

What I need is for Russ to return in the coolest way possible.

My idea is that Magnus invades Fenris again but through the warp rift comes Russ chasing him, beats him up, snaps his daemonic spine and throws him back into the rift

[jaunty stratus]

I would say, he also found him. But Lorgar doesn't seem that amused about that fact, also about what corvus has become/achieved

[thorn bison]

Didn't Corvus show up at Lorgar's doorstep and kill 2 dozen of his warriors as a random fuck you?

I remember a short story about that

[jaunty stratus]

Russ im the gardens of Nurgle or something might also be a starting point

[thorn bison]

What if Russ is in the Garden and finds Kaldor Draigo there?

Damn we're writing their stories for them

[jaunty stratus]

||last news I had, he is still there as a demon raven, somewhat lurking around the Lorgar meditation mansion, waiting for Lorgar to come out||

[dapper hull]

that could be bad, russ anti psyker,

[wicked tree]

Russ is anti psyker? News to me

[thorn bison]

Sure he is, but he trusts those who are loyal to the Emperor and I think having the Emperor's gene seed in you could prove sufficient in a situation like that

[dapper hull]

makes sense

[jaunty stratus]

That still sounds very nsfw

[dapper hull]

do you have the emperors, s e e d

[thorn bison]

lmao

[dapper hull]

i wonder if kaldors tangerine is a fruit from the tree of life(or whatever its called the leman was looking for)

sounds very tts to me

[thorn bison]

Well whatever it is it'll be hard for Draigo to give it away as hands do not exist in his reality

[dapper hull]

ah

i bet he could will a hand to manifest

like

not a real hand

but something to hold the tangerine

https://tenor.com/view/warhammer-40k-kaldor-draigo-gif-23281589

[thorn bison]

Well he is a psyker so that should be no problem

[dapper hull]

im still depressed about tts

[thorn bison]

Same

I just rewatch the entire thing once in a while to remember the good old times

At least they're still making content

[dapper hull]

wats ur fav episode?

yup

hunter the parenting is good

[thorn bison]

Probably Hateful Feud at Khaine's Gate

[dapper hull]

nice

i liked kitten and tzeentch play a childrens card game

also the roleplaying one

[mellow knot]

This may be of use to anybody considering the Black Library open submissions window.

https://www.trackofwords.com/2023/01/09/writing-for-black-library-open-submissions-january-2023-part-1-pitching/

[dapper hull]

story about how sly marbo is the 2nd primarch

and ogryns are his space marines

[glass lintel]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fVh_D7hFdog

[cosmic stump]

Shadow of the Past

[thorn bison]

Aye that's the one, been a while since I read it

[cosmic stump]

you don't see Word Bearers jumping out of windows, running in fear, and crying "Daemon! Daemon!" everyday

[tacit raft]

one day Corax's after heresy life will expand further

rather than simple Lorgar hunting activities

[weak terrace]

it was the raven guard and iron hands who almost assassinated fulgrim right?

in one of the HH books

[tacit raft]

yea

Angel Exterminatus book

[thorn bison]

One day the Ravenlord will return to us!

he has to...

[swift beacon]

well seeing how there’s 4 traitor primarchs confirmed to be active in lore, and in tabletop. Let’s hope he’s does return.

i say 4, because of how big Emperor Children are gonna be in 10th edition.

I have a strong feeling Fulgrim might get revealed

[cinder terrace]

waooooooo, i just finish reading mechanicum, and what an amanzing book, thge best of the horus heresy that i have read so far.

[swift beacon]

have you read the siege of terra series?

they’re pretty good

[stiff dagger]

Id love to see lion return and seeing guillimans handywork and fliping his shit over it

[thorn bison]

What if Russ and Lion return at the same time and Guilliman has to deal with the crusade, imperium and their rivalry

Well, I say rivalry when what I really mean is sword-measuring competition

[wicked tree]

Bruh Russ and Lion? I'll peace out of SM lore if that happens

[stiff dagger]

Khan just wanders out of webway one day

[cosmic stump]

he was doing something which pissed Abaddon off greatly according to the leaks

in Arks of Omen

which is very likely about the infighting between Chaos

[swift beacon]

i saw that today, wonder what happen

[cosmic stump]

"We finally find the weapon that can destroy the Imperium and win the Warmaster of this war!"
"I shall destroy it just to see little Abaddon's face then~~~"

[jaunty stratus]

liked that too, gone through it already 2 times, cool mech stuff and a cool "road movie" adventure too in one book

[thorn bison]

I'm spreading the good word of BL

A teacher of mine told me he's started reading WH partly because of me

happiness

[tacit raft]

i hope Arks of Omen somehow relates to Perturabo, cuz there is no lore bout his misgivings

in 4Ok

[thorn bison]

Well there's going to be quite a lot of tech heresy so I'd imagine he would want to get in on that

[cosmic stump]

so far the Primarch related are Angron, Lion, and Fulgrim

[burnt ridge]

Anyone else here read Avenging Son by Guy Haley, or the other Dawn of Fire books?

I really enjoyed Avenging Son for the most part, am a White Consuls fan boy so seeing their chapter get a prominent character was lovely

[thorn bison]

I've read all of them up to Throne of Light and have thoroughly enjoyed them

[burnt ridge]

oh good, I'll keep reading them then

doing audiobooks so the $22 a pop kinda got me to balk, especially since the 2nd book looks to follow my least favorite Imperial faction of all

the Golden Bananas

[thorn bison]

I think they do rather well in that book without seeming entirely immortal

Though they do of course clean house a lot

[burnt ridge]

also, is it just me or was the reveal of the Primaris marines just.... super cringe

like, not blaming Guy Haley at all, but the way it's written just kind of highlights how forced they were by GW to sell new space marines

[thorn bison]

I thought it was really generically cinematic, not bad but not unique in any way

Like that Iron Man movie where they show off the suits at that convention

Just like, okay... cool...

[zenith mountain]

You're not alone, though I'd definitely blame Haley

Dark imperium reads like an advertising catalogue and Haley's flaw of being unable to write nuanced antagonists is very obvious in that series

[hardy nimbus]

I have admit, Guy Haley isn't one of my favourite black library authors

Tho he did give us some very epic moments in the Plague Wars books

[burnt ridge]

Nuanced antagonists? Sounds like heresy to me

Lol

[golden portal]

Anyone here read assasinorum: kingmaker? Absolute banger this year

[left meteor]

Are there any good books of the Dark Angles someone could point me too?

[swift beacon]

i’d say Legacy of Caliban series.

[left meteor]

Thank you ill check it out!

[pallid moon]

has anyone read this

[mellow knot]

Part 2 of the useful tips for folks thinking about the open submission writing call for BL.

https://www.trackofwords.com/2023/01/11/writing-for-black-library-open-submissions-january-2023-part-2-space-marines/

[remote matrix]

whats the reading order of eisenhorn books? I've seen many recommend eisenhorn omnibus first but also many site I've searched said xenos is the first book

[frigid osprey]

Omnibus first, for sure

[drowsy urchin]

doesn't omnibus have xenos in it

[frigid osprey]

Ah right, Xenos is the first book

Yeah

I was thinking of the Magos for some reason

Omnibus has the 3 novels and a couple short stories

[stark dome]

Hey uh, Angron’s book any good?

[cosmic stump]

Space Marines

Why it had to be Space Marines all the time

there are other factions out there as well

[mellow knot]

The last couple of calls weren’t SMs.

[sand oriole]

@stark dome yeah it's decent. Angron actually gets a bit of character

[rustic igloo]

Do y'all have Adepta Sororitas books (preferably with an audiobook option) that you'd highly recommend? I've heard Our Martyred Lady (love you celefax), I'm currently reading Mark of Faith, and I have Red and Black on standby. Are there any others really worth picking up?

They're 100% my favorite faction and I want to learn about them as much as I can since I can't afford to actually play them on the tabletop

[stuck raven]

Requiem Infernal is a fantastic read, bit different from most 40k novels but still a phenomenal book

[rustic igloo]

will check it out, ty!

[burnt ridge]

At least it's a out successor chapters

Giving the underdogs some time to shine

I'm gonna submit an entry for a White Consul story

[hearty musk]

I’ve been trying to write but I don’t have time

My pre med stuff is taking to much time

😞

[mellow knot]

Amazing - good luck!

[slow pilot]

should i get the space marine codex as my first one for learning more lore

[hollow prairie]

well i can only contribute with the gaunts ghosts series

i always thought dan abnett was on of the better writers

[slow pilot]

warhammer is going to make me broke

this lore is just so good im having so much fun reading it

[cinder terrace]

Any idea why "tales of heresy" don't have a Dramatis personae, I don't said who is on the book.

It don't said.

[devout crest]

Hey if you like imperial knights I recommend these two books

There is unfortunately no audiobook adaptation of them for people who like to listen while they work or drive (unless there is and I can't find it if that's the case @ me rn!!)

[slow pilot]

https://tenor.com/view/heresy-detected-war-hammer-40k-gif-9829547

[cinder terrace]

@slow pilot why do you mean, I was just curious but I think I know why know.

[slow pilot]

Wow the opening of grim repast is a guy getting his eye cut out 😑

Well at least they set the tone early lol

[burnt ridge]

Thanks!

[graceful osprey]

no audio for the andy clark books but you should check out assassinorum: kingmaker

very good book about assassins on a feudal knight world, has an audiobook

robert rath is a newer 40k author but he also wrote the infinite and the divine which is a popular necron book

[devout crest]

Andy clark has a few audiobooks on audible

He has 22 to be exact lol

Also just reminds me I really recommend steel tread it's a amazing book

Steel tread is like the movie fury but in a leman russ demolisher. It's filled with character struggle because it's a cadian tank that's half cadian half non cadians so it gets tense at points

[graceful osprey]

sorry I mean his imperial knights books specifically

kingsblade and knightsblade don't have recordings you were right

[devout crest]

Thats a shame they're both so good. Maybe in the future

[graceful osprey]

it does happen! forges of mars didn't have audio books until recently, they're slowly doing the old Gaunts Ghosts books too

probably depends on how well they continue to sell physical/ebook copies

[slow pilot]

Does grime repast use the warhammer universe well or is it a normal crime novel that just happens to take place in warhammer

[tacit raft]

it does, quite good story. I did like it

but not in the extent like space marines, bolters etc

hive world problems on low level

i would say

[slow pilot]

I don't know anything about hive worlds yet

Is it good

As in Interesting

[heavy juniper]

all the crime series books are set in the same place. it really expands and fills out well as the series goes on, I love it

[slow pilot]

Do I need to read them in an order

[heavy juniper]

no. or, well some of the anthologies feature some of the same characters from the full novels. so those short stories are set before/after the novels I guess. they do a lot of fun stuff in that series, especially the latest anthology collection, the vorbis conspiracy, all the short stories are different angles with different characters about the same event that happens in a part of the city.

[slow pilot]

But am I fine to read this as my first one

[cosmic stump]

the Night City in Cyberpunk could be a really good model for a Hiveworld

or a Hivecity

[glass sparrow]

so I just finished Flesh and Steel yesterday. good story.

been liking most of what Warhammer Crime has offered so far

[cosmic stump]

I like Bloodline the best

so many untold aspects

especially the "Snake Cult"

either they are good guys, or a|| Slaanesh or Genestealer Cult||

[glass sparrow]

bloodlines is my next purchase

I've checked out the Wraithbone Phoenix and Flesh and Steel.

[slow pilot]

Can you explain what exactly a hive city is

[stuck raven]

Take the most overpopulated cities on the planet, mash them together and multiply by about 50

[slow pilot]

That's what I guessed by the intro discription

[slow pilot]

do i need to read the crime novels in order

[rustic igloo]

really enjoying Mark of Faith so far, it's nice to see more gay rep in 40k (yes, it's a heartbreaking story, but it's the grim dark future for a reason) and the idea of a sister of battle facing the duty of leading others because of a miracle she had no say in is a great setup. Would definitely recommend if you're an Adepta Sororitas fan!

(and honestly, why WOULDN'T you be an AS fan?)

[heavy juniper]

yes!

just finished requiem infernal 😀 loved it!

[random marlin]

Was that the first Fehervari book you read from the ones you had planned? And glad you loved it. 🙂

[stuck raven]

Isn't it an absolute treat of a book? You planning to get onto the reverie next?

[heavy juniper]

I already read the reverie. lol. and all the short stories. fire caste and cult of the spiral dawn still unread

[random marlin]

Did you read Vanguard already? This short story is kind of an epilogue to Fire Caste. And a chilling one.

[timid cove]

<@&1016281173720309760> Had a chat with GW about the vouchers. I am just confirming some final things. It looks like we will likely start reading the infinite and divine early or mid-Feb. In the meantime, if you have reached the six point reading streak in this server (which if you participated in the Magos discussion, you should have automatically), I will be looping back around for your Steam ID or MS Gamertag for your reward. 📚

[spice zenith]

Durn

[vocal quest]

Is it gonna be a giant Tome for a backpack?

[spice zenith]

Hope i can earn it too

[hushed aurora]

will there be more of these vouchers in the future?

[timid cove]

There will be another chance to get the in game reward next month for new participants, no worries, plus we will reveal the next streak reward as well.

We've vouchered every month and hope to continue doing so, but we are currently working with GW on how best to distribute and manage the book club as I suspect it will get larger once we start promo-ing it on other platforms, so we need to find a way to streamline the distribution of rewards as right now it's just me (soon to be Catfish) handing them all out manually. 😄

[tardy pecan]

mid-feb? awesome!

[jaunty stratus]

nice, and I rushed through Infinite and divine already, maybe time for a second round, such a fun book