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jaunty stratus
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||gregor certainly didn't||

toxic nebula
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you don't know that

sinful basin
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cool scene ,|| right after they get to the house of the Glaw family, the entire part about that familys house is probably the most james bond out of the trilogy||

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the chracater that does that ||torute|| is actually responsible for one of Eisenhorn most caracteristic traits as a character

hearty niche
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Everything can be more grim dark now that you can kill ten planets in one book as apposed to ten hamlets

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I'm probably going to go through the rest of the Eisenhorn series(and adjacent series) again after finishing Xenos. But do any of you guys know any good Nurgle/containing Plague Marine books?

abstract cliff
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Lords of Silence is THE plague marine book.

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Read it. You need it.

jaunty stratus
jaunty stratus
# hearty niche Everything can be more grim dark now that you can kill ten planets in one book a...

Plus lots of cruel and violent things can be somewhat reverted thanks to high tech stuff. If you lose a hand, you get a new one. In fantasy you get a wooden stump and hope you don't end up like that seafarer dude from family guy. This allows more escalation with not that hard consequences

For the nurgle book: flight of the Eisenstein, but it was also the only plague mariny thing I've read so far lol

hearty niche
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Thank you. Plague Marine are sickening!

thorn bison
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I know right? They are doing such a good job being repulsive!

haughty ferry
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especially for nurgle superfans

narrow river
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Not entirely relevant, but I just read Riders of the Dead, good read. Like all the Tzeentch stuff in it

modest wigeon
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Recommend me a book that takes place in the world off Darktide.

torpid seal
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check pinned

hushed sequoia
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finished Steel Tread recently; very solid Imperial Guard novel focused on a Demolisher tank crew, with good nuance in the different regimental Guard cultures ||and how Cadians feel about losing their homeworld||. Well-written depictions of how terrifying heretical cultists can be for the average guardsmen.

thorn bison
jaunty stratus
tall phoenix
craggy bone
random marlin
# hushed sequoia finished Steel Tread recently; very solid Imperial Guard novel focused on a Demo...

Read that too, found it very enjoyable. The details about how life is inside a Leman Russ were welcome touches and helped with immersion too. I also read Catachan Devils and Volpone Glory which are nice, recent Astra Militarum novels. From the three of them, I'd say Catachan Devils is the weakest, as I didn't find the immersion as good as in the two others. One thing I liked in Volpone Glory is how Nick Kyme described military operations, it felt very believable. Of the three books, Steel Tread had maybe the most unique voice, in the sense that Volpone Glory felt quite close to Gaunt's Ghosts (which is understandable) at times.

void stirrup
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Why is there no book series about the Age of Apostasy/Strife (Goge Vandire) and the birth of the Sisters of Battle? Can that be the next thing after Heresy?

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Primarch level of importance female character who spawns an entire militant order, plus the time someone almost declared themselves Emperor. I wanna read it.

magic sable
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It's been speculated that The Scouring and the Age of Strife will be next after the Heresy series concludes

bright slate
vocal quest
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Goge Vandire is a woman?

thorn bison
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No he is not

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I think they mistyped that

sweet slate
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And the leader was alicia dominica

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If anything the history of the adepta sororitas is a super great joke more than an actual important event

torpid seal
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yea the age of apostasy is bland

thorn bison
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The whole joke is literally:
The Government: "You can't have men-under-arms."
The Church: "Ok, but how about women-under-arms?"

sweet slate
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That is after the age of apostasy end

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Not before

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The passive decree that disband the frateris militia

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But since the adepta sororitas weren't men they weren't affected

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Which is also bullshit, but they used a english loophole in the setting

thorn bison
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Love me some of them Low Gothic political loop holes

void stirrup
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And the only other person who isn't a Custodes besides Guilliman to be allowed into the throne room with the Emperor.

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She is kind of a big deal

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And, what is more, in an era where Primarchs return, Imperial Saints are repeatedly reborn. Celestine has popped up repeatedly. THE Sister of Battle, Bride of the Emperor reincarnating for even one war or battle would be cool. Story beat like Terra itself gets threatened by Abaddon? Maybe SMs distracted by returned primarchs, both Daemon and their own? SoBs get to swoop in and pull a last wall, led by The Saint.

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Remind SM of duty... Again... And get a real moment in the sun.

thorn bison
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Remind SM to not be such selfish assholes and actually do their duty for once? I'm down for that

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But at like the very end of the story while SoB get all the screentime

jaunty stratus
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It's not like the SoB are somewhat more reasonable or rational. They are the female version of black templars...

torpid seal
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yea but

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booba

jaunty stratus
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Ye, and for whatever reason, high heel power armor

sweet slate
# void stirrup And, what is more, in an era where Primarchs return, Imperial Saints are repeate...

SM distracted by the returned primarchs? Maybe the inverse, hell, SM are know to act even without or against orders of the imperium as long they still uphold their perceived duty, Imperial fist and successors did so during the war of the beast, dark angels do that always for the search of the fallen, and all other chapters do similarly...
Also yes, celestine is returning, but not alicia weirdly enough...

sweet slate
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And we also know that the custodes too see them as nothing more than a necessary evil, a tool so that mankind can endure until big E return and make things right

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In fact, sob are an amazing tool for big E, and we all know how he is gonna use all the tools he can

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Especially the willing one

swift beacon
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I just read the Night Lords trilogy, i would never imagine the night lords crying. When they saw their primarch in a recording.

tulip imp
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Reading Malleus been forever, completely forgot about the part where ||Neeve is completely unimpressed at Eisenhorn and his concerns about the Sons.|| Very funny.

tulip imp
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What year does Penitent occur?

drowsy urchin
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think it's mentioned in that book or the one before, somewhere around 500.M41 iirc

tulip imp
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Hm

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Alright.

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Makes me wonder if that spoils the ending or not

drowsy urchin
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as in the reveal? In what way?

tulip imp
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I mean the ending of the next book. But what you are referring to is what I am talking about. If the ending of the prior book is indeed about that guy then the ending of the next book can't really have any sort of bigger implications for the setting as it is set in the middle of the century and the current timeline is well past that.

drowsy urchin
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anything can happen tbh

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they can just say in the 'current' timeline that it was so after the fact we know it

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or something along those lines

tulip imp
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I don't follow

drowsy urchin
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as in whatever the ending implies or how it will affect the major narrative can still happen without it being mentioned in the books that take place years after the event

tulip imp
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Alright, but let's assume it has some sort of finality for that person then I dunno, feels a bit... Weird to just pave over them like that.

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Especially since that person is as important as ||Malcador was||

drowsy urchin
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I honestly think it may bring forth a whole new saga of stories when it's Abnett who is writing this

tulip imp
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Perhaps. I just am sitting back and thinking about this deeply because let's say that that person was planning on something that could upend the entire status quo of 40k as they seem to be. Well, why did anything result from that in the intervening 400+ years from then and the current year?

drowsy urchin
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and to anyone reading this who hasn't read the Bequin novels please don't research who we are talking about if you value a spoiler free experience 😄

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maybe the plan is still ongoing

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can't really say yet

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we don't even know yet ||if it really is him||

tulip imp
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Wouldn't be with the main characters. Well, not two of them. Regular humans don't really make it to those ages without a lot and a lot of help that would make them closer to robot than man.

drowsy urchin
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True, hence I was thinking maybe a new saga of stories with that in mind with a new cast

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how old is Eisenhorn anyways during Penitent

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almost 300

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damn

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but he's in a bad shape too

tulip imp
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So is Ravenor lmao

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Arguably worse

drowsy urchin
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Ye

tulip imp
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I dunno. If that person isn't dead at the end then it'll be like opening a can of worms. Abnett neatly came up with an explanation for what they have been doing but you sort of... Force the question as to the years after that crossing of fates. I am just trying to reconcile them going back to doing nothing (status que wise) for half a millennium after the book ends and can't really make it work. Maybe Abnett does make some new stories with new characters but I can't see them involving that person.

drowsy urchin
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why not?

tulip imp
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Cuz the books make it sound like that person has a force that could completely upend the IoM.

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So why would that person be confronted in say circa 500 m41 and then do literally nothing for five hundred more years

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If I had to be cynical I'd say that the reason the books are taking so long is because he is trying to work out a compromise with GW.

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Because let us be blunt.

drowsy urchin
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well just getting this far with bringing in what be know had to be quite the conversation so I'm sure the ramifications of it were discussed back then already

tulip imp
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If that person is still alive and that person doesn't die by the end of the last book then it's the closest thing to the ||Emperor coming back that we are going to get||

drowsy urchin
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and settled on a direction they're going with it

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all we know that person could go full on renegade or something

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I highly doubt they brought that person back just to kill them in the next book, although it is very plausible

tulip imp
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The only reason something like that happened in War of the Beast is because it literally didn't matter.

drowsy urchin
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I've only read the first Beast novel so I'm not too well aware of all the events during that era

tulip imp
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A certain ||Primarch of the Salamanders|| comes back for one book and then promptly dies but it doesn't matter because ||he's a Perpetual||

drowsy urchin
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ah, that I knew of

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but didn't know the death happened shortly after reappearance

tulip imp
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Yeah

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Although some people will argue ||he didn't die at all because he shows up in full gear and then dies in a big explosion but we don't see him specifically die but he sort of implies that he is able to talk to Dorn somehow||

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It's all sorts of convoluted and another reason why people didn't like those books

jaunty stratus
hearty niche
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So, as a loyal follower of the Khagan, anyone got any good books/audiobooks on the White Scars to recommend? I did read the primarch book, and i have the Horus Heresy book 'Scars' ready to be consumed

tall phoenix
hearty niche
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Oooh thank you!

thorn bison
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I like Khârn The Red Path because it starts with Khârn out-racing a White Scar

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After the first chapter it has nothing to do with WC however

magic sable
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Is Shroud of Night any good?

swift beacon
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Short summary, is that an alpha legion squad went to a planet, after the loyalist won. Were trapped on a planet, that was covered by a warp storm. They thought it’s been a few years. When in reality, it’s been over 10,000 years since then.

magic sable
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Hell yeah alright. Needed to hit $32 to get that sweet sweet free shipping from GW so I bought that, excited to learn more about the Alpha Legion

thorn bison
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Shorter summary: they spent 300 years on a death world and now they're pulling off a heist on a shrine world

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It's one hell of a book

thorn bison
jaunty stratus
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Oh, forgot this doesn't work in this channel 😩

tall phoenix
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the only reason it got disabled was due to ping spammers 💀

jaunty stratus
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If it helps that I don't have to see a jerma gif in this channel, I'm totally OK with that lul

timid cove
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Just a reminder the book discussion on Xenos is tomorrow, 12pm ET! Join, participate, and get a voucher towards your next Black Library read. 🙂

slim spire
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damn, didn't realize there was an actual scheduled book club going on

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maybe this'll inspire me to actually read some of the novels

tulip imp
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The final battle in Malleus is a bit rushed, but the duel makes up for it.

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Makes me wonder why more authors don't show far stronger characters moving at those sorts of speeds.

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I don't even think Abnett does it in his books dealing with Primarchs and such, lol.

fresh sun
timid cove
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just show up at the scheduled time. I'll write down who has participated and shown up and send out vouchers a week or so after the discussion 🙂

fresh sun
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Awesome, thank you for hosting this!

copper sphinx
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Test: <t:1659283200:R>

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<t:1659261600:f>

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@timid cove you can use unix timecodes if you want to avoid timezone shennaigans

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For announcements and such

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<t:1659261600:F>

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Very neat feature

timid cove
fiery cobalt
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Nice

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Will it be voice chat or?

timid cove
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Likely I'll be on voice in a stage channel and people can request commentary just in case there's a large number of people.

drowsy urchin
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Just finished Saturnine for the second time.
So fucking good

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might be my all time favourite warhammer story

glass sparrow
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Finished Empire or Lies now to decide what to listen to next

timid cove
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Hey all, I've gotten some feedback that voice is a little intimidating for some, so we'll hold the book club chat in #xenos-book-discussion starting in about two hours! See you soon! 🙂

hearty niche
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Are all the plague war books from loyalist perspectives? tbh I don't want to waste my time on primaris ultramarine books just to get more deathguard content when I've a list of books I consider having perspectives more worth my time to read.

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also anyone have good suggestions for ork perspective books?

chilly loom
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Prophets of the WAAGH is supposedly good

magic sable
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Mostly Ultramarines, Ecclesiarchy, and Guardsmen tho

digital ledge
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Or just be based and read nothing but Da Gobbos Revenge

swift beacon
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re-reading the night lords trilogy again, don’t know how i feel about this part in Soul Hunter. ||Talos returns to nostramo after 20 years, for an honor parade. An old lady was yelling out for his name, grabbing his chest. One the guards blew her head, and Talos felt relief. After that, Xarl asked if he remembered the old lady. Talos said no, and Xarl said that was his mother.||

torpid seal
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what about it

red steppe
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Typical grimderp moment

thorn bison
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I think it perfectly displays how inhuman and soulless the process to make a Space Marine really makes them.

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Many of them remember nothing but their duty to whoever they serve and in the eyes of those who made them that's enough

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They don't need to be able to recall their past or family as their chapter/legion/warband is their family now

mellow knot
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It’s nice having trigger memories for an Astartes. That recall of a life that feels like a dream.

lime verge
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Huh. Wonder if any psykers kinda weaponize that.

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The trauma of bringing back regressive memories

thorn bison
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I don't think you can get a trauma response from a fearless killing machine

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But I could be wrong

icy ingot
thorn bison
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Fair point

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I meant a fearful response

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The rage is more of an angry PTSD one

icy ingot
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in that case no because they were literally made and trained to resist that

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even if the training is bad they might not even have the capacity of fear

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i guess that reinforces the point of that space marines are not brave if they have no fear to act against

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guardsmen for the win

thorn bison
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The Guard encompass 99% of the Imperial military

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I love victory through sheer weight of numbers

icy ingot
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and dumb luck at times

thorn bison
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And dumb luck at ALL times

icy ingot
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Cain is a fun character

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i just finished death or glory

shy mica
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Currently reading The Infinite and the Divine

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So far, great read

drowsy urchin
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it's terrific, love it so much

oak pollen
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i hear literally nothing but good things about that book

thorn bison
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It's easily in my top 5 best reads

shy mica
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My previous experience with necron books is Severed which I also really enjoyed reading

lime verge
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Okay what are the best 40k audio books?

sharp oar
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Or ciphas cain for the emperor

sudden marlin
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Hey hey people Sseth here, quick recap, I was never really into Warhammer universe until TWWH1 and Vermintide, and now that Darktide is coming, I wanna start reading some 40k. So far, I know as little as some YouTube lore videos recaping the timeline and such. I have a very thin understanding of who the EMPRA is, some of the factions, what Primarchs and Marines (kinda) are...

What would you say is a good place to start so it doesn't overwhelm me from the bat (I know there are 300+ novels or so), maybe some that focuses on something small scale. I'd prefer if it was something Darktide related, if possible. Maybe same type of "enemies", not about Space Marines.

For no specific reason, even if it's not Darktide-like, if there's a good point to start related to T'au or the Mechanicus, those look appealing to me from what I've seen. On the other hand, Tyranids is something I'd rather avoid at the start as preference goes

Would be best if there's an eBook version

toxic nebula
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I usually recommend Xenos as an entry point (which is the book we just read for book club)

drowsy urchin
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Ciaphas Cain - For The Emperor has Tau and is about baseline humans

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then uhh Abnett's Titanicus novel has a good bit about mechanicus and titans naturally

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If you don't mind Space Marines the Dark Imperium Trilogy has loads of marines, Guilliman, guard and nurgle

sudden marlin
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I don't mind them, no. They seem cool, although if there's an option more Darktide-like without them, I'd take it

drowsy urchin
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it has a couple neat depictions of humans encountering nurgle hazards

sudden marlin
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I'm gonna do a list, thanks guys

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Xenos is a series?

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I see there are 3 more books related in Amazon

thorn bison
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Xenos, Malleus, Hereticus

drowsy urchin
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it's the first one in a series of 9 books of which 10th is coming in the future

sudden marlin
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And The Magos is also listed here

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Oh, okay

thorn bison
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The Magos is recommended to read after the others

drowsy urchin
craggy bone
drowsy urchin
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I went in the order of
Eisenhorn trilogy -> Ravenor trilogy -> Magos -> Bequin

craggy bone
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that is the correct order

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just arrived at Bequin myself

thorn bison
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Is the Ravenor trilogy even sold in stores anymore?

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I can't find it anywhere

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I have the Bequin books and all Eisenhorn ones but not Rav

sudden marlin
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Yea, printed aswell

lime verge
void stirrup
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if you want a good human book that serves as an intro, is it cheating to say an Omnibus? The Macharian trilogy/omnibus follows the crew of a baneblade who gradually get to experience a lot more. Shows how various branches work together, Chaos, Dark Eldar, Orks, all from a fairly line level grunt point of view.

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He gets to witness, and even be a part of, Inquisitor plots, Imperial Assassin operations, all sorts of skullduggery. Just hardly ever realizes it, or does so too late. Doesn't overburden the reader I think. Xenos is also a great jump in, but it is more high end. Ciaphas Cain definitely is fun, but it doesn't tonally match almost anything else (on purpose). Very light hearted, but has Tau and other things in the first book.

thorn bison
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I shall continue searching

lime verge
thorn bison
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Nah I can't stand anything but physical copies

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I don't know why

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I just can't concentrate on digital ones

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If I did read digital I could just download the book from a totally legitimate and legal site and get it immediately

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But nothing good comes without effort

sudden marlin
thorn bison
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I would recommend Baneblade and Shadowsword (they're a two-part series)

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They follow a Baneblade tank crew who mess things up with big guns

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It's got more than that in it of course but I don't wish to spoil it

sharp oar
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I recall that book.... was enjoyable

high ridge
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Very good books

swift beacon
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Does anyone know the story about an Ultramarine giving his thanks to a Legion of the Damned? I remember reading it, but it’s been a while.

sharp oar
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The only book I recall with the legion of the dammned is the one with a imperial fists successor..... something to do with a shrine world and a red comet making everyone very angr-on.

swift beacon
sharp oar
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It's other tip of my tongue but defintley wasn't ultramarine one mo

sharp oar
swift beacon
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LMAO

sharp oar
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Legion of the Damned - Rob Sanders

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But I do recall the heavy ass foreshadowing of the legion and a comet making everyone be mad

swift beacon
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All good, i’ll just have to read every source about them. Just to find that excerpt lol

sharp oar
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I'm not sure if the main dude does thank them... last I recall he fell off a bike and a legionary looked over him.

When the extoriators came to reinforce only the captain remained with a very important Imperial fists relic

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Also main said dude was crippled by the big sad Dorn depression coma

shy mica
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I just finished reading The Infinite and the Divine.

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That is a great fucking book.

thorn bison
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That's another person we can add to the list of people with good taste in books

jaunty stratus
# thorn bison The Magos is recommended to read after the others

For the perfect Order yes, but its totally understandable if you work your way throught eisenhorn->magos->Ravenor, the short storys then kind of foreshadow some events, some also work quite well as prequels to ravenor or end the arc of some side characters from the eisenhorn trilogy

brazen vector
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i read eisenhorn a while ago so ill pick up magos next

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oh its narrated by toby longworth still, awesome

void stirrup
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(I don't hate them, just personally any skeleton horde doesn't turn my dial, didn't in Fantasy with the Tomb Kings either)

drowsy urchin
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Yes

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the characters and their actions carry it and them being necrons mainly allows for most of these events to occur

void stirrup
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I'll have to give it a go then 🙂

drowsy urchin
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It's very much worth it

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if you fancy audiobooks, the reader does a stellar job with it

void stirrup
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I think I do still have my monthly credit

brazen vector
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richard reed

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he has a lot of credits!

shy mica
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Its not an "Ah, were immortal space skeleton" centric book, its plot with a side of necron.

void stirrup
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Neat, I'll give it a go then.

brazen vector
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embed fail

jaunty stratus
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No problemo, enjoy. btw: there are some short stories, that made me think about them even weeks after, because they talk about topics or are written that good, that all the 40k stuff becomes just some sprinkles on the actual cake

brazen vector
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yeah i think thats why i didnt get to it after the first three books - it seemed a bit disconnected, but after reading sci-fi short stories a while ago, shouldn't have missed it

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looking forward to it

jaunty stratus
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Cool thing is, especially after the magos novel and partly some ravenor books it felt like the puzzle piece now came together, pretty much every story has a use within the inquisitor trilogy of trilogies

brazen vector
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i just dont want to let go of toby longworth yet 😢

jaunty stratus
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wait, he doesn't voice the whole series?

brazen vector
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AFAIK he does the first four books

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not sure about others

jaunty stratus
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so its the same as in german, had my one reader for the whole eisenhorn series, and then came ravenor around the corner and it wasn't the same dude anymore, was kind of a let down

brazen vector
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toby does to ravenor it seems! sigmar bless these ravaged ears

jaunty stratus
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but well, I really did not want to have a male voice actor for the bequin series, so it had to happen at some point

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thats good, but I don't/can't say why for now

brazen vector
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omg

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no way

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Helen Keeley does the Bequin series

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and shes a VA for Darktide!

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okay well now i have 100+ hours of audiobooks lined up!

jaunty stratus
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ye, thats the next book on my list, already in the libraray, but first have to finish the 4th cain book, death or glory iirc, don't know why they completely made up a new name for germany

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will be interesting, if I can follow Keeley with my somewhat slightly over school level english skills

brazen vector
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your english seems to be perfect dude i wouldnt worry about that!

jaunty stratus
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writing and reading is ok I think, but speaking and listening, really another level, I tried to listen to longworth, that really needs my full attention

brazen vector
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well as a native english speaker it did for me too! i think its because of the grimdark terminology and names

jaunty stratus
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yes, that makes it harder too, because I'm like "did he just say something I did not understand, because accent or is it a sci fi word that really sounds like this?"

brazen vector
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yeah exactly, you're not alone in that

jaunty stratus
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was already funny googling names in the eisenhorn books, because most really are written like they are spoken, not like we actually would write them

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or well, I think the Horus Heresy was way was with that, now that I think about it

thorn bison
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It's really quite something

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And they're both incredibly witty, petty and stubborn which makes for one hell of a story

barren slate
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Ppl probably have already asked this but Darktide is the first piece of 40k media I've actually taken interest in and feel a bit overwhelmed with all the lore; I've read a lot of Warhammer Fantasy (Gotrek and Felix, etc) and was wondering if there's a place I can go for a recommended reading list for an entry into 40k lore and literature frogblink

tall phoenix
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Start with the Eisenhorn or Ciaphas Cain novels for a first voyage into the lore

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40k lore seems overwhelming at first but you'll get the hang of it with more fluff you read and realise the setting isn't that massive as your first footstep into it

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Just pick a faction and focus on the lore around them before exploring everyone else

thorn bison
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I'd say just pick a somewhat short novel (300-500 pages) that strikes your fancy and then go from there but I'm just saying this because it worked for me

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Everyone has their own way when it comes to these things

barren slate
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Thanks for the recommendations! Thankfully it seems both series' have their collection on audible which'll help keep my mind occupied until November meryl_happy

glass sparrow
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So I finished Hellwinter's Gate. Decent story about the space Wolves, though I wish Audible had the first two books available as well so I could better connect with the various members of the pack.

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I would like to add this, Andrew James Spooner who narrates the book makes everyone a member of the church sound French to me.

copper sphinx
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pog

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malleus time

magic sable
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Harlon Nayl time

brazen vector
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Listened to a bunch of Eisenhorn book 4, really enjoying it atm, but what I find sus is the first three stories feature someone urinating themselves 🤔

void stirrup
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Shhhh, don't talk about Abnett's fetishes

brazen vector
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They also left in a retake by Toby in Guarded Caught me off guard had to rewind

timid cove
#

Oi, Librarium Rejects!

A century after his recovery of the alien Necroteuch, Gregor Eisenhorn is one of the Imperial Inquisition's most celebrated agents. But when a face from his past returns to haunt him, and he is implicated in a great tragedy that devastates the world of Thracian Primaris, Eisenhorn's universe crumbles around him. The daemon Cherubael is back, and seeks to bring the inquisitor to ruin - either by his death, or by turning him to the service of the Dark Gods.

This month, the book club will be reading the second book in the Eisenhorn Trilogy: Malleus! You can purchase the book here: https://www.amazon.com/Malleus-Dan-Abnett/dp/1849709610

Or pick it up from your local library! We'll have a discussion August 31st, 6pm ET! Those who participate will get goodies! Complete a six month reading streak and get something super special (maybe even in-game when it releases? 👀 )!

Here's how this will work:

  • Pick up the book and begin reading!
  • You can discuss at any point in time in the server, but make sure to ||spoiler|| your SPOILERS!
  • At the end of the month, I will schedule a "coffee chat" for the server to discuss cool parts, lore, and maybe give something special to those who participate (you gotta' read the book, though!).

Cheers; and let's begin turning those pages! 🙂

timid cove
brazen vector
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Can also recommend the audiobook read by Toby Longworth 🙂

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toby is bae

drowsy urchin
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agreed

hearty niche
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@jaunty stratusjust wanted to add we in germany usually only learn input english and litterally 0 output english jin2

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like the worst way to learn a language

jaunty stratus
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Yes, our education system is systematically still stuck somewhere in the end of 1800s.
The Nürnberg funnel is still a concept, our "masterminds" think will some day work

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But it seems, that some concepts at least see some reformation in the last years. Maybe we can even see some 21st century concepts like internet somewhere around 2050

winged raft
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in the meanwhile i just learn english with my everyday routine of watching,listening and playing videogames in english

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because guess what

hearty niche
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thats the way i learned like when there was a clan war etc. :KEKW:

winged raft
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like far more than anything else

sinful python
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me, as a French, when I see people complaining about their education system

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wait, why aren't gifs working?

random marlin
#

Ça a probablement été désactivé, cher compatriote français !

sinful python
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yep, ils marchent sur les autres serveurs, étrange

thorn bison
#

The Swedish education system is actually pretty good but I still learned English from games and movies more than anything else

agile hedge
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The fact that a lot of medias there are in english does help alot

dreamy ledge
#

Hey don’t the fallen/cypher have an audio drama?

sharp oar
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Specifically about the fallen.... not that I heard of, but there's audio book on luther

drowsy urchin
#

pog finally

jaunty stratus
drowsy urchin
#

one of the greatest warhammer tubers

jaunty stratus
#

alrighty, will look into it

midnight wind
#

Has anyone listened to the watcher in the rain? Is it worth it for it being only an hour?

tall phoenix
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its a great goddamn story

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passes by in a flash and has a great plot

drowsy urchin
#

the cover art is great at least

magic sable
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Watcher in the Rain is awesome

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Very well acted imo

brazen vector
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didnt know there were audio short stories! will give them a go

magic sable
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It’s like a play but audio only

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Separate actors for each character and sounds effects etc

timid cove
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@here hello, I will be dming people who participated and read Xenos tomorrow to ask for emails to send your vouchers! 🙂

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get pinged, payback is sweet LUL

tall phoenix
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Oh god everyone is gonna complain now

lost dragon
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I Hope you break your toes.

outer berry
#

WHO DA-

warm minnow
#

hi

tall phoenix
#

HELP

fading ledge
hearty niche
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He has unleashed the swarm

deep hill
#

Did he just....ping?

craggy sphinx
winter aurora
blissful herald
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Ping

cosmic charm
#

@timid cove

graceful blaze
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AAAAAAAAAAAAA

heady cedar
slate latch
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💢

minor garnet
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kill

stray root
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Slow mode please

grizzled raptor
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PING

candid basin
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YEEEEEEEEEEEER

dusk vortex
placid fiber
reef tiger
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oh bell naw

timid cove
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welcome to the past week of my life 🙂

lean raft
#

HUH?

outer berry
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WOOOOOOOOOOOOO

ornate trellis
spice zenith
fast gale
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insanity

glossy glen
reef arch
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Ripperoni in pepperoni friend

lethal abyss
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ping lmaoo

unreal nacelle
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AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

graceful blaze
tall phoenix
#

@timid cove Slow mode

candid basin
#

WHO PINGED

umbral sequoia
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WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

candid basin
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AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH

calm arch
#

CHAOS REIGNS

prisma forum
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God I love Azerbaijan

inland shore
#

Senior game design student here about to graduate. Just so you know, this game is generally considered a joke in the more elite gaming circles.

fading ledge
jovial silo
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This is great to witness

lean raft
#

MEHHH

craggy raptor
elder depot
#

Whomst has summoned us

winter aurora
#

WAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHH

heady cedar
#

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

viscid isle
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Oh god the flood gates are open

hearty niche
next light
#

Am I getting a voucher for being pinged?

keen cave
#

I didn’t actually read it, but thank you for doing the very cool book club, friend.

candid basin
#

CHAOS REIGNS

icy obsidian
young arch
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Chat going so fast nobody will notice I want to rub Kruber's glutes

weary crater
#

Stop behaving like spoiled children, it's just a bloody ping

bright palm
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🔥

lunar garden
ebon wing
ornate trellis
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🪰 🪰 🪰 🪰 🪰 🪰 🪰 🪰 🪰 🪰 🪰 🪰 🪰 🪰 🪰 🪰 🪰 🪰 🪰 🪰 🪰 🪰 🪰 🪰 🪰 🪰 🪰 🪰 🪰 🪰 🪰 🪰 🪰 🪰 🪰 🪰 🪰 🪰 🪰 🪰 🪰 🪰 🪰 🪰 🪰 🪰 🪰 🪰 🪰 🪰 🪰 🪰 🪰 🪰 🪰 🪰 🪰 🪰 🪰 🪰 🪰 🪰 🪰 🪰 🪰 🪰 🪰 🪰 🪰 🪰 🪰 🪰 🪰 🪰 🪰 🪰 🪰 🪰

calm arch
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DO YOU HEAR THE VOICES TOO ?!

forest escarp
#

im just here to riot

twilit rampart
lethal abyss
wintry saffron
outer berry
#

The REAL Darktide

elder depot
molten dragon
#

Imagine being mad about a ping from Aqshy

short monolith
slender lion
#

Ouh mama

unreal nacelle
timid cove
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wouldn't last a day being a CM, smh

vivid tinsel
#

sees ping: angery
it's aqshy: all forgiven

azure flax
#

hey guys any good novel with vampires from AoS other then Dinasty of Monsters ?

cloud warren
#

What timezones are you people dear god

lost dragon
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i dont forgive, its 3 am in the morning im trying to SLEEP.

prisma forum
tight coyote
#

Who the hell pinged

celest jolt
inland shore
lusty kiln
#

🦀

cosmic charm
terse stream
#

Awesome

hearty niche
slate latch
rain hare
#

I was expecting another delay Heresy

analog bobcat
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[you sense you have made a grave mistake]

timid cove
charred sapphire
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honestly, just glad i didnt piss off the mods this time

glacial leaf
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🏓

calm breach
tall phoenix
# timid cove use it wisely 🙂

Jokes aside we really should get a book readers tag or something, seeing these people constantly rage about a ping gets annoying after a bit

timid cove
viscid glade
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I don't mind the ping but why the hecc did the message get deleted so now I don't even know what the ping was about

edit: never mind it glitched onm e

hollow vessel
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who rang

desert carbon
timid cove
mighty mulch
sinful python
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Aqshy secretly worships Khorne, this just in!

timid cove
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the amount of people not suppressing here and everyone tho

craggy bone
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aw shucks, a ping? for me? you honor me

brazen vector
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Missed the first book discussion but keen to join the next, might even paint my Eisenhorn model while listening to the audiobook again 😊

timid cove
white bone
#

I hope your fields are salted Aqshy

arctic olive
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Here I thought I was important

storm stump
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time for cliffnotes

hearty niche
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hehe

timid cove
plucky kelp
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I didnt realise this book club existed until this ping. I just finished Malleus a week ago and am halfway through Hereticus

timid cove
waxen tendon
raw wolf
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You know, I really thought I had supressed this specific channel. Discord has like 5 separate mute and "don't notify me" options and I'm still getting notifications. Genuinely impressed at the apparent potency of this book club.

vast flume
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im reading gaunt's ghosts so i ignored this club 🖕

unborn kelp
torpid citrus
hoary dagger
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Who dares summon me ?

tight anchor
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I still need to read Bequin's books

craggy bone
vast flume
glass sparrow
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You know what is the bane of Space Marine books? When you are multi tasking and all the members of the squad save 1 or 2 have very similar voices. Definitely going to have to revisit Hellwinters gate at some point so I can more easily separate them lol.

void stirrup
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Yeah.... The books with similar names, ranks, and personalities make it really hard to care. A lot of SM books are plot character, human cast, enemy cast, and then other SM mooks who are there to die and I guess you are supposed to care?

fallen seal
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Need more books about regular humans, or non-humans

rotund pilot
trail cape
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people get so touchy about a single ping, if you got woken up by this or whatever then that's your own damn fault

sterile perch
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I don't particularly mind these pings but its annoying getting pinged on the server for a channel I've muted, I half expected it to be news about the upcoming playtest.

tall phoenix
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Oh wow yeah, pinged 2 times in the last 4 weeks, what annoyance 💀

stark relic
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is there a w40k book club discord?

rotund pilot
hollow vessel
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Has the third Ciaphas Cain omnibus come out yet?

raw wolf
forest pulsar
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Got pinged

pale kayak
timid cove
copper sphinx
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Tanks aqshy! Have a lovely day! Smug

pale kayak
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well played

timid cove
misty token
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why did i get pinged i hate books

narrow bolt
hollow vessel
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Oops, I meant fourth, forgot I lent one of them to a friend for a minute.

magic mason
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Pings everyone for a book club
Doesn't ping everyone for a playtest and delay announcement. Faith, destroyed

tall phoenix
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they literally pinged people both for the delay and playtest announcement

oak pollen
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lmao

magic mason
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lol

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fanboys

abstract cliff
tall phoenix
magic mason
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XD

glass sparrow
thorn bison
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Hivemind vibe every time there's a ping

tall phoenix
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NOOOO WAIT-

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oh right gifs dont allowed 😩

glass sparrow
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When the angry lurkers ruin the fun Sadge

thorn bison
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Why can't they just be quiet and leave us to our literature reading?

void stirrup
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puts down pitchfork and loudspeaker we read literature? Since when? Squint suspiciously

tall phoenix
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GONNA DROP ON YOU WITH THIS ROCK 'ERE

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🪨

brazen vector
#

I just finished listening to the Titus Endor short story in The Magos

||Man... that was a bit of a difficult listen. 😦 How it was falling apart for him, dealing with memory loss that he wasn't aware of - the random details, numbers, recalling the same memories - and yet, he was diligently continuing his duty. I liked how at the start there was the passing comment about how Inquisitors don't take superstition seriously, but the way the story ends is almost an irony. It was also interesting to think about when this was even taking place - was it just the start of his dementia, or was he already in so deep he was stuck in an endless loop? In reality, was he in a medicae somewhere on life support, living out this long memory in just a few minutes? Also, in a way, I can see why people may think Inquisitors are predators, both literally and connotatively.

Poor guy... really wasn't his fault, just circumstance, being in the wrong place at the wrong time.||

silk cape
rotund pilot
jaunty stratus
# brazen vector I just finished listening to the Titus Endor short story in The Magos ||Man... ...

It's honestly my favorite story, it's sad, ||but I like how it handles dementia, it gives an insight and a glimpse of how alzheimers might feel like. It's something I really did not expect from a Warhammer book and it's so damn good.
But yes, Titus really seemed to be a prick towards women in his more "healthier" times. Still felt sorry for him, he totally lost control and didn't even have a chance to realize it||

fiery stratus
keen cave
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Any idea what the next book is gonna be?

vocal quest
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Malleus

keen cave
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Oh! Thankee.

uncut tree
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Do not fear the ping. For without the ping, you are alone.

brazen vector
# jaunty stratus It's honestly my favorite story, it's sad, ||but I like how it handles dementia,...

Yeah, well said!

||It felt quite respectable in how it approached dementia / alzheimers, and impressively from a first-person POV but also briefly showing how difficult it can be for an outsider too (his interrogator). For a while it felt like the grimdark faded into the background and it was something we could sympathize or even empathize with.

I think the repetition of "it wasn't his fault" and "it was just circumstances" and "it was just bad luck" may have been very comforting for those unfortunate enough to have dealt with this sort of thing IRL, because it is truly shit luck for anyone dealing with it.

I'll need to reread/relisten to the books 1-3 for the bookclub so I'm probably forgetting much about Titus - but I didn't feel like he was being bad in this story, just continuing to follow his duty passionately.

I didn't this from a 40K book but I think Dan handled it really well and gently and I respect him (even more) for that.||

Looking forward to seeing what everyone had to say about this story in particular when it'll come up in the book club : )

jaunty stratus
brisk arrow
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has the twice dead king reign not released physical yet?

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cause it released like January digitally

drowsy urchin
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pretty sure it has

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at least on amazon it's available as a paperback

brisk arrow
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its a pre order

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on amazon

drowsy urchin
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oh you're right

brisk arrow
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yea

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im hoping they do a collectors edition if the physical is yet to release

drowsy urchin
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I'm pretty sure I saw it being on pre-order in january as well

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they're probably making a reprint or something, or the supply chain is having trouble once again

brisk arrow
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i missed it

drowsy urchin
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😔

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there's two on ebay for $195 ":D"

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and a few for a bit less

brisk arrow
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theres like none being sold in the uk

drowsy urchin
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still expensive as hell

brisk arrow
#

much cheaper than the others

drowsy urchin
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yeah, it isn't offensively bad

brisk arrow
#

the book was probably £40 like ruin special edition

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kinda wild to have it only be on second class royal mail

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and not even first class

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i gotta keep my eye out on special edition if they do a third book

brazen vector
brisk arrow
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this is like a reprint

brazen vector
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yeah

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that special edition you linked looks so cool

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but gosh

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$$$

brisk arrow
#

well the ruin special edition went for £40

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and it goes for like £150 now afaik

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i could sell mine for that probably since i havent even read it yet

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but i plan to

brazen vector
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doesnt taste expensive - pogryn

brisk arrow
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lmao

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shame about second class postage

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i might message and offer to pay them the rest for special by 1pm

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cause i work at royal mail and i know how second class shit is treated lmao

thorn bison
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Is Twice-Dead King Ruin the first one?

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Cause I ordered it and I want to know if I should find the other one first

brisk arrow
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Yea it is the first one

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Reign is the second book

thorn bison
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Alright thanks

craggy bone
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did Aqshy already send the questions about emails for the book club vouchers?

copper sphinx
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don't think she has had time to start with that

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i haven't been dmed yet

craggy bone
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aha, ok. Didn't also get anything so I just wanted to check. Book club's fun

timid cove
craggy bone
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no problem, lots of work with everything

timid cove
#

Okay, all sent! They were sent based on: Did you read the book > did you ACTIVELY participate in the conversation about the book in question

civic urchin
#

So i've been jumping into the 40k lore and have read the first 4 horus heresy books. I wanted to get a little up to date with the 'present' date, for instance learn about Cadia(since it always comes up). Is Ghost Gaunts a good path for that?

dusk vortex
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no, the Sabbat worlds crusade is 200 odd years before the 13th black crusade

civic urchin
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hmm

thorn bison
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Cadia Stands is a good one if you want specifically Cadia

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Otherwise I would recommend the Dawn of Fire series

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It follows the Indomitus Crusade which is the most recent large event

civic urchin
#

I guess I was also looking to get the vibe of the imperial guard, which is why folks seem to direct people to Ghost Gaunts. Do you think the Indomitus Crusade will pertain to DT?

thorn bison
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I mean, there's Imperial Guard in the Crusade and they're featured in Dawn of Fire but I'm not sure exactly what you mean

civic urchin
#

Fair, I'm probably a bit vague about that myself.

thorn bison
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The Indomitus Crusade is basically the Great Crusade from HH but in 40k

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If that answers anything

agile hedge
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It was confirmed in the iGN article back in 2020

thorn bison
civic urchin
#

ill look it up and see if that's where I want to go. Thank you!

agile hedge
#

Also in the devblog we got VAs talking about the Destruction of Cadia, Gullimans return and the Indomitus crusade plus Moopshark said that one of the options for the planet you come from is destroyed Cadia

thorn bison
civic urchin
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right! thats why i was curious

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thanks, yeah no shortage of that, first 4 novels have been a blast

storm stump
#

Did I miss this months book club? I was just about to order it

thorn bison
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No you could still be on time

storm stump
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awesome, thanks

thorn bison
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np

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If you can finish the book until September 1st, that is

storm stump
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I got a job were 90% of it is doing nothing but browsing the web, fortunatly I got the time

thorn bison
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Nice, well I wish you good fortune with that

storm stump
#

❤️

shy mica
#

Just read through the entirety of Twice Dead King: Ruin and I found it to be an incredible read.

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Would definitely recommend to anyone who is interested in necrons.

thorn bison
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I'm happy to hear that! I've ordered it and it should arrive soon so I'm exited for it

shy mica
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Cant wait for my paperback copy of Reign in October, this book has me excited for how its continued.

thorn bison
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Aw I wish I could have gotten my hands on Reign as well but I can't find it anywhere

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I think I was too late

shy mica
#

Reign is out as an audiobook, but the paperback for it hasnt been released yet.

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At least on Amazon it hasnt.

drowsy urchin
#

it was released last winter but the pre-orders now are for a reprint I guess

hushed raptor
#

Hello folks. Does anyone knows if Peter Fehervari will continue to publish his books? There was news about half of a year ago that he no longer works with black library, but recently his book Sins of my brothers was published.

lime verge
#

Might be that was their last book then? As it might be a person leaving but they got a book in the pipeline

wicked kayak
#

Just finished Anathemas and thoroughly enjoyed it

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'Mud and Blood' was absolutely fantastic as was 'Skin Man' and 'The Secret Crown'

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Pretty solid all the way through though

storm stump
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meme-virus

magic sable
wicked kayak
#

it really could have been longer and still kept my attention

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The ending is 🤌

jaunty stratus
#

Currently listening to the first bequin book ||and I am at the art community scene, where she gets attacked by those dolls. It's a bit funny because Keeley sounds quite melancholic the whole book and that specific scene also gets some drama too, while the fight she describes sounds like a mix of the army of darkness mini Ashes and a good portion of naked gun slapstick||

brazen vector
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hows the narration? its on my list

jaunty stratus
#

do you mean the content itself or how its voiced?
the content itself really feels like a slowburn so far, but I'm currently 3 or 4 hrs in, buts very descriptitive in the narration, lots of thought processes of the protagonist are describred. Helen Keeley sounds very melancholic imo, she reminds me of disco elysium from time to time funnily enough

brazen vector
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ah thanks it sounds quite good then 🙂 yeah looking forward to listening to Helen, just too used to Toby at the moment :x

jaunty stratus
#

yes, I too had like two narrators the last 7 audiobooks, its a welcome change, especially to listen to a female voice instead dudes the whole time, its also funny, how she voices male characters

unborn merlin
#

Female narrators are always a breath of fresh air.

jaunty stratus
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she does a great job so far, got to a very specific character yesterday evening it was just 🤌

glass sparrow
#

So I finished listening to Buried Dagger... Jonathan Keeble deserves a bonus and a month supply of lozenges for his performance.

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That man is to good at making Nurgle demon voices.

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Now to go back and wrap up any storyline I care about and start the siege.

sharp oar
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I want johnathan Keeble to have narration babies with me 😂

storm stump
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I finished Malleus, it was my first 40k book

copper sphinx
#

you should start reading xenos now then, seeing as it's a trilogy

thorn bison
#

Yeah things are going to make a lot more sense when you've read Xenos as that is book one and Malleus is number two

storm stump
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I dont know about that, isnt there like a ~100 year diffrence? Eisenhorn overexplains everything to the point i never felt out of the loop reading Malleus. It felt fine as a standalone story, even if it felt like a OC self insert fan fiction

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Ive been reading Xenos at work

copper sphinx
#

just out of curiosity, what made you read the second book in a trilogy before the first one?

storm stump
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Monthly book club

copper sphinx
#

fair

storm stump
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have alot of downtime at work so figured Id finally read a 40k book, starting with the monthly book club selection

thorn bison
storm stump
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Ahh gotchu. I enjoyed the book, Inquisition is always neat

thorn bison
#

It is indeed

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GG and Eisenhorn are connected btw

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There's a character that shows up in both series

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I won't say which one

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Wouldn't want to spoil you

jaunty stratus
#

its vader

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there, I said it

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you can ban me now

storm stump
#

han solo dies

thorn bison
#

And it's chewbacca that kills him

glass sparrow
#

He had Montey the mole as an accomplice in the act.

storm stump
#

will this be on the test?

thorn bison
#

Yeah will there be a pop quiz on this at the end of the term?

timid cove
#

Hello, if you were DMed about the last book club, I'm getting your vouchers sent out today! 🙂

timid cove
#

These should all be sent now! If I DMed you and you don't get an email from GW about your voucher in 24 hours, please message me!

copper sphinx
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I got mine, so they're defi going out! OmegaGuardsmanHype

jaunty stratus
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yup, got one too, very coolpogryn

teal igloo
#

very cool

storm stump
#

I finished Xenos as well, but should prolly wait till next month for the third book

magic sable
#

Also got my voucher, thanks Aqshy!

#

What book should I get to add to my ever growing backlog

thorn bison
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Get Alpharius: Head of the Hydra

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Amazing book

magic sable
#

Unbiased opinion, clearly

thorn bison
#

Clearly

magic sable
#

I still haven’t started Shroud of Night and I’m on and off reading Legion, so I don’t want to burn out on Alpha Legion content

mellow knot
#

You should get a book you want and not anything less.

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wise words of wisdom from the corner

thorn bison
#

Those are wise words

magic sable
#

Very good point

drowsy urchin
#

of course the best ever released black library novel: The Infinite & The Divine

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get another one if you already have it

magic sable
#

Damn was about to say I listened to the audiobook but you got me

mellow knot
#

I mean, are you talking book book, ebook or audio?

thorn bison
#

Have you read Baneblade by Guy Haley?

magic sable
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Not audiobook as I use my audible plus sun for the free credit once a month on 40k stuff

magic sable
thorn bison
#

Banger

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The sequel, Shadowsword, is also very good

mellow knot
#

Grab an anthology on ebook

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Something for everyone !

thorn bison
#

A good one is Lord of the Dark Millennium

mellow knot
#

What is your flavour of reading jam?

magic sable
#

It'd be easier to tell you what isn't my jam lol

thorn bison
#

Strawberry

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wait, that wasn't the question

magic sable
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I'm open to read anything about any faction

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But I think I'm going to use the voucher to tie up the third books in two series. Gonna get the new Vaults of Terra book that dropped last week, as well as Gods of Mars.

thorn bison
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What are the previous Vaults books called?

magic sable
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Carrion Throne and Hollow Mountain

thorn bison
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Do you think I'll need to read them before reading the third one?

magic sable
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You'd probably enjoy it more if you did.

thorn bison
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Good point, I most likely would

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bummer

magic sable
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I can say that they're very entertaining books

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Really shines a light on how much of a dump Terra is

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And how terrifying the opening of the Cicatrix Maledictum would be for your average joe

thorn bison
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Yeah, The Regent's Shadow covers the opening from the Terran point of view as well

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Though that's from a Custodian pov

magic sable
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I've heard that ties in with the Vault of Terra books

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Haven't read that yet so can't personally attest

thorn bison
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Their reaction can be summed up in five words: Well shit, this is bad

magic sable
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Well nvm to that plan cause the voucher doesn't work on the Black Library standalone site, only on the Games Workshop site

thorn bison
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Damn

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Guess you've got to buy a physical copy and feel like an intellectual while reading it

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Sitting in a nice puffy armchair sipping some tea

magic sable
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Refined physical book enjoyer vs neanderthal ereader user

thorn bison
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I did not foresee the consequences of buying exclusively physical copies of books

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My room is small and I must shelf

trim wren
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Audio books 🙂

thorn bison
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Nope

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I hate them

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Can't concentrate on them for more than two minutes

copper sphinx
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I just listen while working, walking or driving somewhere. It saves so much time. Emperor bless.

stable sphinx
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Any recommendations for e book sources?

toxic nebula
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black library website? i think they do pdfs

mellow knot
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I think most of them are in e-Pub format rather than pdfs.

glass sparrow
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I do not know what others opinions on Lost and the Damned are for the Siege of Terra series, but it gets a pass in my books just from Dorn being so shocked by the casual reveal that Vulcan is alive that he repeatedly says "what?!" over and over again.

sharp oar
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Potential ||think he already knows but malcador told him, then told sang and the Khan so Dorn faked shock as it was meant to be a secret||

I need to read the books.... I've read the solar war but I've done all of them on audio so far cause painting

jaunty stratus
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So I've been through the first Bequin Book and have a question about the whereabouts of a person ||what happened to the interrogator who was with Gregor in magos, does he show up again in Penitent or was magos the only appearance of him?||

glass sparrow
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no this was genuine shock on Dorn's part, the only one that didn't seem surprised by the fact was Jaghatai

drowsy urchin
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can't recall anyone of that description that was introduced in The Magos

jaunty stratus
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I don't know how his names was written and he kind of is not relevant enough for the wikis as it seems, something like ||voriid or vuriid. He was tasked by the ordos to keep an eye on Eisenhorn and to turn him in if he crosses another line or does something very stupid. He got his arm broken in the book, but made it out alive. Eisenhorn kind of dumped him afterwards, he later visited Druscher because he wanted to know where Eisenhorn was going to.||

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I hope my spoiler edit arrived before I lost connection to the net... Traveling with public railway in Germany is... Special...

drowsy urchin
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Can't actually recall that person at all so I suppose they were mostly a story device for that story alone, I could be wrong though and we'll see them later on or I've just forgotten about them entirely and they in fact reappear in some place already

jaunty stratus
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I wouldn't say that per se ||he was with nayl to recruit Druscher, but this could've happened without him too, his true agenda was opened, where he was mostly useless because of his health condition and being stuck in a cage. At best the plot device he was portraying was the injured that slowed the group a bit down||

sharp oar
slim thistle
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Anyone around that finished Ravenor? I'm in the last 120 pages of the omnibus and have a question about something that happened.

icy ingot
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whats a good book to start with raven guard and/or corax

magic sable
slim thistle
magic sable
slim thistle
# magic sable ||Yes exactly. That is technically mankind’s first encounter with Tyranids. One ...

Oh okay. ||I always thought the miniatures were like up to date when it actually came to lore in the universe. Like I didn't know the books were kinda like where we learn all the original lore. I guess I'm confused because here I was thinking Ravenor should have known about Tyranids like they're a normal thing in the universe. But I guess I don't have the right idea of how the lore works.

EDIT: God what am I trying to say. I guess I assumed like all the xenos in miniatures are normal things in the universe. Like an inquisitor would know all those races and such. But this is the second time in seeing a race hinted but not named. Earlier in the book they hint Tau. I didn't realize these were like "unknown" races to humanity. I thought since they're normal armies in the miniatures that they would be just like normal everyday xenos fighting in the books lol.||

thorn bison
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Of course there are others but these are the ones I have read

void stirrup
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||Tyranids and especially Tau are only threats in the galactic east. An Inquisitor may be aware of Tyranids, but actually being able to identify one of the many, many strains on sight without it being their area of expertise would be hard ||

slim thistle
vocal quest
magic sable
void stirrup
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||Oh yeah, the book take place during like 380 M41, so well before the tyranids are a thing||

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||Siege of Macragge, the end of the first big Tyrannic war wasn't until almost 400 years later||

thorn bison
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I have the knowledge of gods at my fingertips (the internet), the only thing they could do was ask their equally unknowing neighbours

storm stump
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i feel like asking about military equipment in wartime just leads to even more questions (for you)

thorn bison
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(By the local police)

storm stump
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voluntold

void stirrup
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If asking about the enemy, just say you are enlisting soon and trying to pregame?

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(Tiger, big scary thing with 8.8 cm gun, 102 mm of armor, bane of early Shermans and T-34, Pz 4 was common line tank, got wrecked or equal to allies tanks depending on load out)

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(almost exact same silhouette, similar appearance. Led lots of people to scream "Tiger! Retreat/I need backup!" When it was just a Pz IV)

vocal quest
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Yeah. Tigers were actually super rare on the Western front/in Africa. Almost every time a "Tiger" got a kill on a Sherman it was actually a Pz. IV

void stirrup
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Only like 1500 of the things were made, and something like 1000 were confirmed destroyed on the Eastern front. Leading to the infamous statistic "An American tank crew was more likely to die of heat stroke than from a Tiger"

storm stump
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people who want that mystery 6 month prize

drowsy urchin
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yeah why read when you can listen

jaunty stratus
thorn bison
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People who want to enjoy as many aspects of the hobby as possible

jaunty stratus
copper sphinx
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@toxic nebula

timid cove
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I have six days to read this book, so busy haven't even touched it 😳

copper sphinx
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audiobook it while you're out and about

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9 hours of listening, i believe in you

toxic nebula
timid cove
sharp sky
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I've got 2 dozen Audible creds and want to burn some. Anyone got reccomendations? Already binged most of the Ciaphas Cain books + Infinite & Divine.

drowsy urchin
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the two black legion novels

jaunty stratus
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depends, if you havent finished them already, hear eisenhorn, ravenor and bequin books

thorn bison
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The Night Lords trilogy

void stirrup
jaunty stratus
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uh, no. Magos is prior/while ravenor happens.

void stirrup
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No, no it is not. It is almost immediately before the Bequin books.

jaunty stratus
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the short story "thorn wishes talon" is prior the ravenor books

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"perihelion" is after the ravenor events

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they both belong to magos

void stirrup
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Yes. funny enough one short story in a collection, which includes at least one long BEFORE the Eisenhorn books, but the one you are referencing isn't.

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The dead giveaway is ||When Ravenor and Eisenhorn meet in the Ravenor Trilogy, versus in the Bequin books. In the end stories of Magos, Eisenhorn gets both a power boost and regains the ability to smile. He does not have that in the Ravenor timeline||

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||Plus he is still concerned with the Fratery in Ravenor, when that is referenced past tense in the Magos stories.||

jaunty stratus
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ok, before we confuse something. Its Eisenhorn1-3 >[Magos Shorts]>Ravenor>Magos Novel>Bequin. Do you agree?

void stirrup
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Yes

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But the story with the magos Biologis is only 30 odd years before the magos novel

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The one you were referncing ||about Tyranids||

jaunty stratus
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||Yes, but the Ravenor books are happening somewhat 350 years prior the tyranids invasion, the the short story with Druscher establishes Tyranids as a very common thing. This does not fit very well||

void stirrup
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||Ah, but the Bequin books were/are supposed to take place at the end of M41, in the current Indomitus Timeline||

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||Yes, this makes Gregor over 700 years old. Somehow. And Ravenor 500ish||

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||Because GW is great with timeframes.||

drowsy urchin
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wait that can't be right, ||aren't they like a couple hundred years prior indomitus||

void stirrup
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Yeah. GW bad at maths.

jaunty stratus
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A case for the ordo chronos

drowsy urchin
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there's no mention of ||indomitus or any of that stuff||

void stirrup
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We have hard and fast dates in both the Eisenhorn trilogy, and the Ravenor Trilogy. Which WORK. They are contemporary to stuff they should be.

drowsy urchin
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and ||nayl metions something about something happening in 450 which was "more than 50 years before" in the bequin books||

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||so it would mean bequin takes place around 500-600 M41||

jaunty stratus
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||I mean, the age of Eisenhorn is not that ridiculous. Thanks to the warpillness thingy, he kind of got the good youth-juice. But ravenor in his condition at the age of 500 is a bit much too||

void stirrup
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||The last HARD date is original Bequin's casket disappearing. Right around 480. Which is still a long time from the Ravenor books, and doesn't seem to make much sense, over 100 years. If the Bequin books AREN'T contemporary, and took place in the past to the current timeline, it kind of robs the reveal of any punch or possibility||

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Mega spoilers ||Unless Gregor, Ravenor, and Bequin somehow defeat Valdor, or stop his plan, or whatever entity has access to absurd Great crusade or golden age tech, plus all of these secrets, all without any ripples. Which would be.... lame||

drowsy urchin
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||eh, 40k being 40k the ending still leaves a whole lot of possibilities open||

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had a discussion about this topic a while back here if you want to go back and check, never named the person though

jaunty stratus
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I found a reddit post with a timeline, but I am not that sure how credible it is || but it sorts the gershom events in 448 following, so not that far to ravenor too. So you are right, that it happened after ravenor, but still, even the hunter in that short story was talking about "the great devourer" which is a very specific term for something that is about to become a thing 300 years later|| @void stirrup

void stirrup
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||Also, The Bequin books apepar to make no mention of the Great Rift, or the 13th crusade. So I think I am just wrong.||

jaunty stratus
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but it's not like Abnett is free of mistakes, there was another funny thing that happened in gaunts ghosts ||where dahlin "forgets" that Kholea is is father, right a book after it was well established, that he knows, lol||

void stirrup
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And that ||Yeah, it makes zero sense how a Magos Biologis knows what a Tyranid is roughly 300 years or so before they destroy Tyran. And earn the name Tyranids from Kryptmann||

void stirrup
drowsy urchin
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||there were sightings of them before as well right? And did they actually name them Tyranids in the story? Can't recall, could be for clarity's sake||

jaunty stratus
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happy little accidentslul

void stirrup
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||That Reveal ANGERED me. I re-read Necropolis IMMEDIATELY. It was 100% a retcon, not a planned story event. In a series he doesn't share with anyone||

void stirrup
drowsy urchin
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||That naming thing I know, but as I said might be just for clarity for the reader||

void stirrup
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So much spoiler text, and so much of it me admitting I am wrong 😅

drowsy urchin
jaunty stratus
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I looked it up, and found something about in Interview, where Abnett was like|| "ah, it was the stress from his first mission with the R.I.P., he forgot it"||

void stirrup
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lol, what a lazy answer.

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Can't just go "I goofed, it made it to print, so we live with it forever shrug"

jaunty stratus
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I mean, its entertainment after all, not a law, so I can roll with it, but still I was like "wtf, thats not how the state of information, how I finished the last book"

void stirrup
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Like, I forgive mistakes. Lord Knows Dan works on MULTIPLE big settings and series, juggling multi volume long series in those settings, that he would mess up a character or two here or there is understandable

jaunty stratus
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oh, he admitted that he forgot it himself, it was just a funny approach to help the reader

void stirrup
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He is human

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ah, okay

jaunty stratus
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oh confused something myself ||it was not the first mission itself, it was the mind meddling of soric||

void stirrup
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Last count he was still doing Marvel stuff, some script work, HH, Gaunt's Ghosts, The Bequin Books, and like two other series? Plus some standalones?

jaunty stratus
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I even found the time to do some lore work for Dartide too

void stirrup
jaunty stratus
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shhh

void stirrup
jaunty stratus
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No, meant I in, I told you not correctly up there, what he said to the fans in the interview

void stirrup
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Oh well. Going to stop monopolizing chat. Peace out for now, it was fun 🙂

jaunty stratus
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oh and have a good day🙂 , need to return to my duties🥲

void stirrup
copper sphinx
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||Mkoll is a spirit of order sent by the emperor||

thorn bison
copper sphinx
void stirrup
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||This just in, Mkoll is really a perpetual. Maybe even Ollanius Pious himself||

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||He is gonna be King of the Ninja Guards, and use his magical flying cloud gifted to him by the Emperor to defeat the Chaos Gods||

jaunty stratus
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||did he also get a extending stick too?||

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||and why are we writing still with spoilers?||

sharp sky
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Because y'all're nerds.

void stirrup
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How else is he going to bonk Khorne on the head and convince him to be a righteous warrior, following the emperor and get him to help defeat the other chaos gods?

glass sparrow
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So I am on the third book of the siege of Terra series and... man it really does feel like the pacing is being dragged through the mud.

tall phoenix
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the biggest downside of the Siege books is them stretching out events/battles that could be covered in a few pages to 400 pages

drowsy urchin
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but it's good still tbh

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also Saturnine is before it which is one of my all time favourite warhammer books

glass sparrow
# tall phoenix Good luck with Mortis

yeah... I have heard a lot of things about Mortis... The one upside is the Sheban Khan carrying a dying man and a infant across no mans land. It's a silly thing to think about but damn it I love the White Scars.

thorn bison
thorn bison
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Saturnine in a nutshell: ||Emperor's Children character is introduced Now I would like to present Rogal Dorn's massive chain sword||

glass sparrow
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Lost and the Damned is good in my books is good just on how they handled the painted counts "end"

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Skraivok: "Blood Angel I challenge you, is that Raldoron I see?! The Warmaster will be pleased when I bring him your head!"
Skraivok: "I am Gendor Skraivok, known as the Painted Count. I am the Lord Commander of the Nightlords."
Raldoron: [thinks about it for a moment] Never heard of you. proceeds to manhandle Skraivok and make him look like an absolute joke

thorn bison
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The biggest fuck you ever is for one famous warrior to tell another that they've never heard of them

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I love those kinds of moments

lime verge
thorn bison
glass sparrow
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Yeah... first wall was definitely a hit and miss book in the siege series.
||it really did nothing to make me care about 17 year old conscript and the reveal that they were in service of the warmaster came a bit out of left field, then again when they only consisted of about 6k and without a second thought killed 400 of their own I shouldn't have expected any less. The battle for the space port was interesting at least. Not sure how i feel about the plague ward of the palace city... indifferent I guess.||

thorn bison
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Damn, I really do be like "Oh this is a spoiler for a book I haven't read, better open it and read the entire thing"

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My ADHD is out here causing problems again

shy mica
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f

glass sparrow
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As someone who also suffers from the curse that is ADHD; I truly feel that.

glass sparrow
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Siege of Terra from traitor primarch perspective:
Horus: takes multiple power naps in his warp fueled lazy boy.
Angron: causes massive property damage.
Fulgrim: high off his tits.
Mortarion: Throwing shit (literally) over the walls.
Perturabo: Carrying the whole damn thing on his back as does all of the heavy lifting.

sharp oar
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I think the pacing is off because there is so much going on and so many stories to follow it can be a bit hard to track.

glass sparrow
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Well it doesn't help when there is story beats that lead to nowhere or is only barely connected to the rest of the story.

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for example: why did I need to know about the daily lives of some port workers, just for them to be vented into space a few minutes in the chapter Gav Thorpe?

abstract cliff
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Because learning about the people who get vented/stabbed/shot/pulverized/eaten actually makes you care about it. Otherwise they're just numbers and nobody cares.

storm stump
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Ive only read the monthly book club book and last months and I cant talk about/ read anything posted here :p

tall phoenix
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after a while it just gets null

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I don't want to cut away from main characters to some human character who has a bullseye on his/her back throughout the entire novel just to predictably die later

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its cheap drama

drowsy urchin
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eh I enjoy hearing from the less important point of view every now and then as well and it's not like it happens constantly

teal igloo
tall phoenix
toxic nebula
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noooo not marv

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he was my favourite sticky bandit

glass sparrow
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It is one thing to have a character planned out to die and follow their story to the end. It is another to have a character exists for 2-3 minutes at best that in the long run mean nothing to the story.

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Maybe it has something to do with they were written to exist just to add more to the body count.

copper sphinx
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Just finishen malleus

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Such a good book

jaunty stratus
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would you rate it... malleus?

cold walrus
quasi thistle
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Well I asked this a long time ago and no luck. I am searching for a book. What I have from the description is this: Orcs (person was sure it's orcs) invade a small almost insignificant planet in the Imperium. Some legion of Astartes (not sure which) sends in a small team to deal with this. Farmers first start off scared shit-less and basically cower in fear and let the astartes handle the orcs. At the end of the book some of the farmers come out to aid the astarte(s) and the astarte(s) knowing that they will survive but the farmers will surely die say something along the lines of, "when I return to my ship I shall carve your names into our hall of heroes among the fallen of my chapter" Any tips would be appreciative

jaunty stratus
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got to the part in the 2nd Bequin book ||where Bequin tries to forge an alliance with Ravenor, and he talked with her about the state of the Imperium. That was kind of fun, how he made clear, that the Imperium is pretty bad and evil. Reminded me of the "are we the baddies" meme, but it was also a surprising moment of reflection, that I did not expect from an Inquisitor||

harsh meteor
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well in all fairness, an inquisitor would know

glass sparrow
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Reminds me a bit of a question asked in Legacy of Kain. Does one choose selflessness even if it means the eventual damnation of the world, or selfishness if it means the world is damned now but gives the possibility for its redemption through an unknown third option.

jaunty stratus
harsh meteor
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||we can hardly take gregor eisenhorn as being the smart one either||

jaunty stratus
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||that is not entirely fair. Hes quite smart, I would say one of the brightest. But his stoicism and stubborness makes him quite dense too. best example the keeler image short story||

harsh meteor
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||but i wanna keep making heretic jokes!||

jaunty stratus
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He is a heretic after all lul

glass sparrow
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okay I finished Saturnine, man ||listening to Abadon weep as he softly begs to be sent back after the failed spearhead assualt as he was denied the a perfect warriors death is depressing.||

drowsy urchin
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so good

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Jonathan Keeble does great work with it

glass sparrow
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still not a fan of Erda to be completely honest. Her whole plan was really fucking stupid for someone who has lived as long as she has and knows what she knows.

drowsy urchin
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like the stuff she did early on? I can sorta buy it|| given how well the emperor had to have them guarded and secured like it had to be the only way to do it or something, although it was not that deeply discussed or explained iirc||

thorn bison
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Why are Omnibuses 3, 4 and 5 of Gotrek & Felix entirely unavailable on the internet and in actual stores?

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Why did GW suddenly decide to erase one of their best series

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And no, before anyone says it I do not want them as audiobooks or in any digital form whatsoever

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I require them in physical form which is why it's so unnecessarily impossible

drowsy urchin
#

many of the black library books get cycled so to say, some are printed for a while and not printed for another while until they're in print again, I'd wager it's partly because how expensive printing (and especially shipping from china) has become. They'll return at some point quite certainly

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like the next couple HH books after the 4th one were out of print for many months but they were relisted again a few weeks back

thorn bison
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Alright, I suppose you're correct, it's just weird that they have 1, 2 and 6 available but not the ones in-between

drowsy urchin
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it's just what happens to be sold out from the earlier patch I suppose

thorn bison
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I'm assuming it's rarer for series that don't get updated anymore to get reprints

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So if it ever happens it'll definitely take a while

drowsy urchin
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could be

void stirrup
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After 6 I think they reprinted volumes 1 and 2. They were out of print for awhile. S'okay, I have a complete set 😜

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As long as they sell, they will reprint. Could be years between though.

swift beacon
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Do you guys think Sevatar is dead?

glass sparrow
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to be honest, I would be terrified if he was still alive after all this time.

swift beacon
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I only want him back, so he can bring together the 8th legion again. This guy was the very few, Konrad Curze respected in his legion.

jaunty stratus
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Aside from his more prominent lack in social skills compared to the other supersoldier manchildren, he was also pretty brutal and cunning. He should get a Ork Klan

void stirrup
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How does Sevatar lack in social skills? Talking down to Word Bearers is practically the mark of a cultured individual

jaunty stratus
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Don't realizing jokes and don't understanding the concept of empathy I would say. But I'm not sure if it's just hinting towards aspergers or, well the circumstances he grew up and such. But yes, bullying the book boys of lorgi is funny, I give him that

sharp oar
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Ngl I think most night lords lacked what society considered sociable etiquette sorely lacking xD

swift beacon
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This^ Sevatar didn’t understand jokes lol, plus he had a hard time understanding human emotions. Besides anger and fear

timid cove
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Make sure to read the pin! 🙂

jaunty stratus
jaunty stratus
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oh no, I have a typo in the malleus discussion and can't change it, it will be there for eternity and laugh at meGuarded

vocal quest
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lul I am laughing at you. Not with you.

jaunty stratus
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ye, thanks android for changing moral to more. Machine uprising has already started

thorn bison
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He was the kind of warrior who was not above kicking you in the balls if it gave him an advantage

swift beacon
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but he is an amazing warrior. Few who can take on sigismund, as well maybe abaddon

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too bad we never see him properly use his psychic powers

thorn bison
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Yeah, wasn't he the only warrior (except for Abbadon) who actually beat Sigismund?

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He did do it in the most dishonourable way possible but he still won

swift beacon
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yeah, he head butt the shit out of him. But Sigismund gave credit for that one which i was surprised. The guy does fight fight well

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but like you said dirty

thorn bison
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He also came up with the phrase "Death to the false Emperor" if I remember correctly

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Props to him for being iconic

swift beacon
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Yeah bro, the first man to ever say it.

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plus i hope we see him again, it’s very unlikely he died.

thorn bison
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I'm still betting he's working for the Inquisition or something

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Working to fuck everyone over

jaunty stratus
swift beacon
thorn bison
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I aim to please

swift beacon
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also more alpha legion books when PepeHmmm

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the EC, and the fists has been getting it non stop lately

thorn bison
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I need that sweet sweet subterfuge

swift beacon
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that reminds me, i need to read The Serpent Beneath

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Something about Omegon infiltrate the core of their legion

thorn bison
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Haven't read it though

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It's collected in "The Primarchs"

swift beacon
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i’ll have to read it tomorrow after work

jaunty stratus
swift beacon
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don’t spoil please lol

jaunty stratus
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I will not. That's basically what you would find on the back of the book cover

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Plus a quote of a critique like "yes" - Rogal Dorn

swift beacon
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huh, the alpha legion doing a heist with Omegon. Ngl that sounds crazy

jaunty stratus
swift beacon
glass sparrow
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Checking out some of the audio drama collections for the HH so I can put off listening to Mortis a little bit longer.

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I really do like Templar, and it makes me really sad how dirty Jubal got done

magic sable
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Used my monthly audible credit on The Talon of Horus

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Only like a half hour or so in but damn it’s pretty good

drowsy urchin
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good choice

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I just finished relistening it yesterday

thorn bison
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It's sooooo good

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Great pick

swift beacon
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@jaunty stratus just finished reading The Serpent Beneath. I should’ve seen that ending coming but, ||Omegon wasn’t Omegon, and therefore was Omegon||

jaunty stratus
storm stump
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is the new book announced yet?

drowsy urchin
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which new book? 😄

storm stump
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book club book

drowsy urchin
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ah, no. But if I were to wager a guess it's probably Hereticus

tulip imp
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Yeah. That doesn't even require a wager, lol.

thorn bison
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Wager? Put me down for 20 thrones

timid cove
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Yup it's Hereticus. When I'm waiting on my plane I'll add the announcement

timid cove
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@here Get pinged and slowmoded! pingboi

Don't like being pinged in this channel? Do the pro Discord user move and right click the channel name > click Notification Settings > select "nothing". ALTERNATIVELY, select the server notification settings and select "mute everyone and here" pings.

Our next book will be Hereticus, the third book in the Eisenhorn tetralogy! Participate actively and constructively in the channel that will open in the time specified in the event details and get a voucher towards your next Black Library read! Hit a six-month reading streak and get something special!

https://discord.gg/5dJJ4AqJ?event=1015541836850401280

Hereticus
Book 3 in the Eisenhorn series

Inquisitor Eisenhorn returns, and this time he’s on the edge of treachery. How far can he go before he crosses the line and becomes what he is sworn to hunt?

READ IT BECAUSE
Eisenhorn seeks the truth behind a string of disappearances centred around a travelling carnival and a pictographer whose images are more than they seem. Inquisitor Eisenhorn has saved worlds and beaten bad guys galore, in short, he's a hero. But he's also done some dodgy things, and they're coming back to haunt him... His struggle to justify his actions (especially the daemon summoning) make this an incredibly compelling read and rounds off the trilogy perfectly.

https://www.blacklibrary.com/warhammer-40000/novels/hereticus-ebook.html

Black Library - Hereticus (eBook)
twilit dagger
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chad pings everyone to see if they like pings, 5 min cooldown on chats

worldly shuttle
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bro its 4 am

brave summit
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lmao 6pm here 😛

hard zephyr
timid cove
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you only have yourself to blame for not fixing your notification settings. 🙂

brave arrow
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go to bed then

quick vessel
lunar garnet
fallen seal
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Not sure I will re-read it, but I think I remember it well enough to participate

wanton knoll
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lame

cobalt obsidian
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Hi friends

upper steeple
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1pm on god

half crescent
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4pm Texas.

signal adder
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Heretical timing

compact hollow
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no don't mute it it's entertaining to watch everyone flip out

kindred gorge
candid magnet
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It's like 10am

tired patio
worldly pike
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Eisenhorn lets go! It was my first read.

finite stag
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based ping