40k-lore-chat

[storm jungle]

Any demon can speak and communicate

[grand minnow]

I know that. But id love to see diffrent non human models tainted by warp fuckery

[lyric ember]

huh

[storm jungle]

yeah but those arent space marines

so you know

[grand minnow]

To add to dilara, the inquisition keeps deamons trapped in bodies to investigate warp fuckery

[lyric ember]

i kinda expected khorne demons to have the mental capacity of an average guard simp

[upbeat saddle]

Khorne has to be careful that Gork and Mork don’t come over and beat him up

[grand minnow]

or drukari simp

[storm jungle]

Dark eldar simps are based

they are just evil

[grand minnow]

I mean the ones that know they are evil

Based

[lyric ember]

drukhari are lit

[grand minnow]

Ones who think they wont get litteraly screwed vy them, simps

[lyric ember]

also didnt fabius bile learn from them?

[storm jungle]

yeah

at a living tower of alive flesh

very cool stuff™️

[lyric ember]

is that where he got his coat

or did he already have that

[storm jungle]

Nah thats homemade

[grand minnow]

Personaly, i apreciate guardsmen being just guys fighting litteral god teir bullshit. Not a fan of humans too much but still

[lyric ember]

fabius is probably my favorite character in 40k

he's still alive right?

hope he pops up again

[storm jungle]

Yeah hes alive

according to the newest chaos codex he has both custodians and primaris in his lab

https://tenor.com/view/breaking-bad-chemistry-experiment-scientific-walter-white-gif-17820266

So time to kick up that sigma-scientist grind

[lyric ember]

oh no

he got a custodes

thats not good

[storm jungle]

gonna see what comes out of that

aka probably nothing

[lyric ember]

yeah

[lunar notch]

Whatever comes out of it would just go to the Death Guard anyway.

Because of how much GW favors Nurgle and the rest of everyone is kinda just there.

[storm jungle]

Eh no

World Eaters literally just got Angron with a massive update on the way

[shadow plover]

era of nurgle is in the past, era of khorne is upon us

[lunar notch]

Wow, it only took 5 years of rumors and hints

[storm jungle]

Cope lol

[shadow plover]

mini releases take years upon years to design and finalize

[lunar notch]

I don't even play Chaos.

[storm jungle]

Then dont complain about it

and yeah what Jerk said

[lunar notch]

No they don't.

[storm jungle]

They do lol

Its literally said in like half the interviews people ask

the model is made first then the lore is made up for it later, then its put into production

[shadow plover]

many times we've heard from different sources that the model releases take years to complete

[storm jungle]

Yep

they need to meet the production quota among other things

[shadow plover]

like the first paintjobs for the minis are made like year or two before the mini is even released for the first time

[lunar notch]

How long it takes GW to do something is not how long it actually takes for most other companies, smaller companies to do something.

[storm jungle]

Okay?

[shadow plover]

gw needs to look at more things than just pushing the miniature out

[lunar notch]

Yeah, like copyrighting the names of colors.

[shadow plover]

sure

you do realise that there are a bunch of rules, lore and novellas written for the model releases as well

and that's just the tip of the iceberg

[lunar notch]

Don't even mention the absolute joke that has been this edition, lmao

Play testing? What's that?

Timely codex releases? Huh??

[shadow plover]

this small thing called covid also happened during this editions release

[lunar notch]

COVID was 3 years ago

[shadow plover]

it's ongoing

[fierce pendant]

Covid never ended tho

We just had waves pass

New are coming lol, they recently reported new strain in china again

[shadow plover]

and in the end 9th is one of the better editions in a while

[storm jungle]

Seriously

LMAO

oh well, I enjoy zoom-classes anyway

[grand minnow]

Imagine leaving the house

[shadow plover]

I'm glad I was just about to graduate before the worst of it hit so I didn't have to do too much from home

[lunar notch]

My GW store hasn't been in quarantine for two years now. The times and excuses of "they are moving to a new factory, they are building a new product database, COVID is impacting their printing" is gone and dead.

[storm jungle]

Its really not

you are pretty much just being salty for the sake of being salty

this went from

"Nurgle is too much"

to

"GW minis suck, their codexes suck, wah wah delays"

[lunar notch]

And nothing I said was incorrect.

[storm jungle]

It was

: )

[lunar notch]

Nope

[storm jungle]

Yup

[grand minnow]

Im more annoyed codexes this edition have been changed so frequently. Its like my codex was useless outside some good art and lore

granted i play necrons and they needed buffs

[storm jungle]

Yeeee

thats true

though alas 40k is always imbalanced

[tender igloo]

almost every necron thing has the core keyword now, which is nice

still don't know for sure how well they are doing after that change

[lunar notch]

GW bad.

[grand minnow]

not my doomstalkers sadly

[unique berry]

Lets goo round 4 I guess?

[fierce pendant]

[glad cave]

Question: Is Dark Imperium a good starting point for people who are interested in at least the 'current' lore of 40K? And what about Book of Martyrs? Just, in general.

[shadow plover]

Dark Imperium is decent starting point I suppose

there might be some mentions of things unfamiliar to you that won't be explained in the book I'd imagine

[glad cave]

I'm not a total newbie to 40K lore, I just want to know if it's good to catch up on the current edition's lore.

[shadow plover]

Ye think it'll do nicely, just get the reprints from last year. They changed some things from the original release to make a bit more sense

[glad cave]

Where can I snag a reprint?

[shadow plover]

think any new copies sold are the ones you want

[glad cave]

Gotcha. Thanks.

[shadow plover]

Although you could say the Dark Imperium is more of a 8th edition storyline but it'll kick off nicely all the other current lore stuff

[faint tendon]

I have a question, it may sound weird, but lore wise are there any other races in the imperium of man besides Caucasian lore wise?

[shadow plover]

yes, any you could think of and more

[faint tendon]

Well, thank you for elaborating.
I honestly didn't think there would be initially, at least based on old material. But diversity was good, I was just curious about the lore which I know not

[barren tapir]

That was a sus event

[storm jungle]

To add more to it, humanity has spread across the stars a lot before the Imperium was even established, so any race we have now and more diverse ones would have been made in the subsequent generations + millennia

Most of these would be re-integrated back into Imperial society and would just spread from there too with the Imperium's already diverse culture of human ethnicities, so its a pretty wide pool

[wind flicker]

Ciaphus cain x felicia tayber

[storm jungle]

Die

[wind flicker]

Its canon sorry

[cinder sphinx]

human races? all of them. plus a myriad more that have developed over the millenia.

plus abhumans which technically are human (dont purge me, inquisitor-senpai!)

[signal hill]

the inquisitor sends note: 'please elaborate so we can evaluate how far your heresy might reach or if we can let you off the hook this time'

[cinder sphinx]

can I just fuck off into the halo stars never to be heard again?

[alpine ingot]

Dilara is a scout main confirmed.

[lunar notch]

It is worth keeping in mind that racism (as in ethnographic type) isn't really a thing in 40k. There are far too many other things to worry about.

This can be attributed to utter lack of knowledge about prehistory and the very geography of Earth being massively altered due to a number of reasons. Even in something like Valdor, the idea of "Africa" is basically a myth even to those who literally live on what used to be the continent before oceans dried up. There is a number of instances where culture and ethnicity are virtually the same thing on a planetary level though. It's not entirely uniform, but there are definitely instances where you are either told flat out that people from x planet look like y, or if you read between the lines then you can come to that same conclusion.

[plush mason]

so do we know the actual names the tau use for their vehicles?

[rose thorn]

Tbh they probably told the imperium the names

Or found records of the vehicles

God isn’t it weird that orks speak gothic?

Like

Straight up they don’t speak ork they speak perfectly understandable gothic

[plush mason]

its very strange that an alien race would name their stuff after earth animals

[rose thorn]

Yeah but also there’s no wolves in the space wolves

I think it’s just a translation thing

[plush mason]

but they are humans. humans that may have made themselves into wolves

[rose thorn]

Like, in their language it’s referring to something else but it just translates over to human animals

[rose thorn]

Also space sharks summon sharks

[plush mason]

that is very likely

[rose thorn]

Like, eldar warp spiders

Aren’t literal spiders but their eldar name probably means something close to a spider

So gothic just says spider

[woven sandal]

Something that vaguely resembles a spider.

[plush mason]

EVE's lore gives a perfect example of how this works. there isnt a single wolf in all of eden. but the name wolf has lived on in myth and is given to the minmatar's deadly raider

[rose thorn]

Why the hell would the imperium bother making a new word for something xenos when they have a word that’s similar enough

[plush mason]

that wasnt what i was asking about

[rose thorn]

I know,

[fierce pendant]

[plush mason]

i was asking about the actual name the xenos themselves use. not what ever the fuck the imperium says

[rose thorn]

OhhhH

Sorry

Uh

I don’t think they call their stuff human animal stuff

I think it’s what it translates to gothic aka translates to the readers language

Idk it’s also games work shop

[fierce pendant]

I don't have any lore reason, but I just think it's for marketing purpose to make it easier to find models you want or need. It would be difficult if everything in their shop was named in that wacky 40k type of latin when looking for minis. Or if you used all the funky Gua'le'tha'la for Tau models

[plush mason]

its likely we dont know and never will. as most of the lore is written from the imperium's POV

[rose thorn]

Crazy how like 98% of the population of the imperium don’t know what the fuck a tau is

Or any xenos

Besides like, grox

‘What the fuck is an eldar???’

[plush mason]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SQBLluxpadg

[rose thorn]

Also like, a planet could be attacked by orks every day and won’t be told what an ork is

[fierce pendant]

usual PDF experience

[woven sandal]

I feel like not knowing what an Ork is while you're fighting them is kinda grimderp.

There's no real reason not to tell people what Orks are.

[rose thorn]

Except the fact they actually kinda winning, and if you don’t want your citizens to lose hope in the imperium, either lie or just don’t tell them about the green horde of the most idiotic species in the galaxy that is currently curb stomping 3 space marine chapters and used a large chunk of your military force to keep from destroying a single city

‘Oh they are stupid green people that are barely worth mentioning.’

‘Boss why are there 4 as many I thought we killed them all.’

Can’t tell them about the truth of eldar who are technologically more advanced in humanity in every way, or the fucking necron who seem to be under every planet and can literally dimension hop and can fucking remove you and your sun from existence

Or any form of xeno religion ever besides the imperials cult

And you don’t want to inform like 40% of your solar systems ‘hey yeah, there is a 90% chance giant bugs are going to invade your society and lead giant bugs to consume literally all living matter on the planet and we have absolutely no definitive way to fend them off.’

Like at bets you can tell everyone ‘avoid and report if you see any of these things, don’t approach, don’t say anything to them, if you can shoot them’ but the imperial cult covers that nicely

[errant pike]

bugspray

[plush mason]

also afaik its only the citizens that dont know about these threats. those in the military do and thats enough

[fierce pendant]

oh

Thought PDF forces are just as in the dark

[plush mason]

they kind of cant be

they dont know as much as the IG ofc

[fierce pendant]

I mean I know that cadian regiments can't be

ye I don't know either so

we gotta get a lore nerd here

of IG

[plush mason]

i guess it would just depend on the world and PDF in question

[fierce pendant]

Probably yeah

[plush mason]

like i imagine the forces on most fortress worlds know just about every threat the imperium faces where as the forces on an agriworld likely wouldnt know anything about them

[scenic bolt]

it depends

like ultramar's pdf are basically at or better than a run of the mill guard regiment

but pdfs are generally just a speedbump in lore most of the times

[plush mason]

we are just talking about their knowledge of the enemy not their combat capabilities

[scenic bolt]

that plays into it, if the world in questions seen heavy combat theyd have had exposure either directly or institutionally

[fierce pendant]

Ye like, if some non-ultramar planetary defense force would have knowledge of any kind of hostile xeno race.

mmk

Ty

[plush mason]

thats what i thought ty

[scenic bolt]

but a world that rarely sees combat or provides combatants, yea you could easily conceive a situation where they may have heard of an ork but wont know what one is till they see a horde of boyz running them down

prolly less the case for the worlds that regularly provide regiments, theyd have had exposure even if indirectly from survivor accounts

[errant pike]

some worlds even regard space marines as myths and legends

chaos space marines especially

[woven sandal]

Well, that one's entirely reasonable. There's like one Space Marine for every world in the Imperium.

[plush mason]

yeah and even at the height of the great crusade there was only 3 per world lol

[woven sandal]

Also, you have to imagine that Space Marines are mostly concentrated in major War Zones like Cadia and Armageddon.

[vapid tiger]

Space marine physiology b like

[storm jungle]

[vapid tiger]

your move, creep

[storm jungle]

[vapid tiger]

[storm jungle]

While it might not exist in an ethnic sense humans in 40k can still murder each other for looking different. The White Scars were criticized in the pre heresy days for their apparent ethnocentrism. They went as far as selecting people from Terra who looked like Chogorins. One the main characters in Path of Heaven contemplates how this made him uncomfortable because it went against Unity, which was part of the imperium's ideology.

Theres also one really good excerpt where a local planet murders the lower deck crew of an imperial gunnery crew on shore-leave for just being too tall. You don't really need to know history to be bigoted towards someone that looks different than you, discrimination is an unfortunately ugly part of human nature.

This just isn't really brought up much because who wants to read about racism stuff in a fictional escapist setting, which is totally fair.

[barren tapir]

Is the event you are referring to the same where the arbites had to intervene to free the crew that was gonna be lynched?

[plush mason]

i can just feel the "hate is learned" fools seething at this lol

hate isnt learned. how to express it is

[storm jungle]

Yeah alas

[plush mason]

"if you want to understand basic human nature. look no farther than how people act in times of crisis"

[storm jungle]

[plush mason]

and thats part of why i love 40k's lore. the imperium is a perfect example of humanity's inability to control itself

[sleek canyon]

I still think it's interesting to tackle racism and such issues but with a different perspective. The way I see it, skin color is less important in 40k's future than what planet you're from. For instance, in the recent Cadian novels, Cadians are shown as somewhat "racist" as they consider that fresh recruits from other worlds are and always will be inferior to "true" Cadians.

You also have the case of mutants, where the stance of the Imperium about them leaves them with no other choice than to turn to Chaos.

I find it interesting that people, 40 centuries later, no longer have the same bias as today... but in the end, they still end up hating minorities and what's different from them. It's a clever message which fits well in the cautionary tale aspect of 40k.

[storm jungle]

Yeah exactly

authors convey the bigotism from other perspectives like classism with nobles/underhivers or the culture of Imperial fighting forces which is a much better way to do it.

[plush mason]

yeah

there is a reason most of human history is a story of us fighting our own nature lol

[lunar notch]

It makes no difference what men think of war, said the judge. War endures. As well ask men what they think of stone. War was always here. Before man was, war waited for him. The ultimate trade awaiting its ultimate practitioner. That is the way it was and will be. That way and not some other way.

[plush mason]

i will have to disagree with the judge on the "war waited for man" part

war is our monster and ours alone

[lunar notch]

Apes get into wars. Orcas get into wars.

[plush mason]

but those wars are driven solely by the need to survive. only humanity rages war for idiotic reasons

war may be rooted in nature. but man has made it so much more than nature ever could

i also find it hard to call a pod of orcas fighting to claim a hunting spot war

[lunar notch]

Man has fought over food more times than there are stars in the sky. We only look to the stars asking, "Are we alone?" because of our insatiable need to be at war. Our cousins, the four or five other hominids we have evidence of existing as the same time as our ancestors didn't just disappear. There's a reason why we are the only ones left.

[storm jungle]

That doesnt make the act of killing any less bad

[lunar notch]

Who said it did?

[storm jungle]

its not necessary

I am now lol

[storm jungle]

Also to be fair

we literally do not know

they may as well been outbred

[plush mason]

imo it was a mix of both

[storm jungle]

Yeeee

not every extinction ends up with the other creatures killing each other to the end

[lunar notch]

It's juvenile and naïve to claim on one hand that we are terrible monsters of war, and on the other to think we played no part in the extermination of those that we competed with.

[plush mason]

in fact humans are the first species to do that

[plush mason]

that isnt what im saying. humans have always been a warmongering race of killers. but just killing the other hominids isnt how we drove them to extinction

we out competed them for food and thus out breed them

its much how we are driving the current mass extinction event

[storm jungle]

Breeding is usually how its done yeah

its one of the few ironic cases of where other creatures out-do another one

when most assume its literally always done by killing all of them

[plush mason]

yeah we didnt kill all of them

at least not directly

"a hunter many kill many. a land developer will kill all"

[storm jungle]

Rock to the head moment 🪨

[tranquil umbra]

Rock and Stone?

[storm jungle]

Possibly

What did the judge say to the dwarven miner?

[plush mason]

https://tenor.com/view/rock-and-stone-deep-rock-galactic-gif-25114877

[storm jungle]

||To C4 the scout||

[lunar notch]

Eh.

I flayed as many nobles as had rebelled against me [and] draped their skins over the pile [of corpses]; some I spread out within the pile, some I erected on stakes upon the pile … I flayed many right through my land [and] draped their skins over the walls.
With their blood I dyed the mountain red like red wool, [and] the rest of them the ravines [and] torrents of the mountain swallowed. I carried off captives [and] possessions from them. I cut off the heads of their fighters [and] built [therewith] a tower before their city. I burnt their adolescent boys [and] girls.

In strife and conflict I besieged [and] conquered the city. I felled 3,000 of their fighting men with the sword … I captured many troops alive: I cut off of some their arms [and] hands; I cut off of others their noses, ears, [and] extremities. I gouged out the eyes of many troops. I made one pile of the living [and] one of heads. I hung their heads on trees around the city.

Nabû-ushabshi, their king, I hung up in front of the gate of his city on a stake. His land, his wife, his sons, his daughters, his property, the treasure of his palace, I carried off. Bit-Amukâni I trampled down like a threshing (sledge). All of its people, (and) its goods, I took to Assyria.

I cut their throats like lambs. I cut off their precious lives (as one cuts) a string. Like the many waters of a storm, I made (the contents of) their gullets and entrails run down upon the wide earth. My prancing steeds harnessed for my riding, plunged into the streams of their blood as (into) a river. The wheels of my war chariot, which brings low the wicked and the evil, were bespattered with blood and filth. With the bodies of their warriors I filled the plain, like grass. (Their) testicles I cut off, and tore out their privates like the seeds of cucumbers.

[plush mason]

and as bad as all that is. its still not enough to wipe out a whole species

[storm jungle]

the appropriate answer was

[lunar notch]

The native peoples of South, Central, and North America would disagree.

[plush mason]

they where wiped out by the sickness the europians carried with them. not their weapons and hate

smallpox namely

[lunar notch]

Not entirely. To say that we played no major hand in the nightmarish bloodshed in those areas of the world once silver production started would be a bit silly. Also, disease is weaponized. We aren't ignorant of that. The Mongolians directly contributed to the spread of the black plague by using the dead bodies of plague victims as ammo to toss into cities they besieged.

[plush mason]

yeah i worded that wrong. the europians killed many natives in their hate filled ignorance. but that tally pales in comparison to the tally they inflicted without even knowing they where

[fierce pendant]

Guys not that your discussion is bad and not related to the topic mentioned earlier but this feels more like #865730416799645696 than it feels like #40k-lore-chat atm.

[plush mason]

they also didnt know they where doing so. its also believed that the plague spreed in europen namely due to the filth they lived in at the time and not something like rats

[plush mason]

yeah sorry

[fierce pendant]

I mean don't apologise it's a discussion xd

Just take it to DMs maybe since it derailed into history and racial relations

[plush mason]

yeah it kind of has lol

[fierce pendant]

In case some other person wants to talk about warhammer

👍

[vast frigate]

so what about them warhammers ey

all 40.000 of them

and the sigmar variant

[fierce pendant]

They'll be all to collect in a new gacha Games Workshop is working on /s

[vapid tiger]

dark eldar dating sim

make it NOW.

[signal hill]

I heard it has a sfw, a nsfw and a 'wtfiswrongwithyou' edition
The sfw has Credits roll instantly after the intro

[uneven tide]

So is there a story to why angry Angron is back? I know they've redone much of the dark imperium series.

[storm jungle]

He basically just came out

so nothing at the moment

[final spruce]

He only was banned for a while plus its Angron, its gonna take more than a few Grey Knight spells to bind him out

[uneven tide]

Hyperion gonna shatter his dumb axe again xD

[vapid tiger]

I mean angron is the most active daemon primarch in fluff

First war of armageddon and all

https://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Dominion_of_Fire

Also this

Angron was also downright playable in 6th and 7th I believe

Just didn't have a model

I think adb wrote down in a blog post or social media comment that the idea that daemon primarchs are "returning" is a misconception and that most daemon primarchs have actually been reasonably active throughout 40k's timeline, it's just that we don't hear about it a lot because no models for most of them

[tired umbra]

Local primarch too mad to stay down.

That'd be my bet

[plush mason]

so how many pellets are in a ripper gun shell yall think?

[crisp heath]

48

[plush mason]

those must be some fat ass pellets

[crisp heath]

That’s how many is in a canister shot so I’m guessing 48

[plush mason]

there is 20mm canister?

at least i think the ripper is 20mm

[crisp heath]

I’m sure you could convert a 20mm to have shotgun shells

Big shotgun shells

[plush mason]

a 20mm shotgun shell

[crisp heath]

10 gauge shotgun shells are pretty big

[plush mason]

yes

[crisp heath]

4 gauge even

[lunar notch]

20mm is roughly the size of a bolter round, and a Ripper Gun is a lot bigger.

[plush mason]

holy shit

ofc an ogryn does weigh a ton at least so lol

[vapid tiger]

Ripper guns are more powerful than bolters so

Lodsapellets

[glossy flint]

they are but ogryns can't aim at all so there's that

[storm jungle]

I mean they can

the entire point of a shotgun is you dont need to aim much, applies to any user

[vapid tiger]

Imagine a full auto doom super shotgun

that's a ripper gun

you do not need to aim

mfw can't find one or two more players for dh genesys

[atomic pelican]

o7

[plucky skiff]

I'm sure it's been noticed before but did y'all see that, along with the Ogryn's occasionally wrong-way-round reload, he sometimes won't pull a grenade's pin before throwing it? (in Darktide gameplay)

[rose thorn]

Why the fuck do I find it so funny to have A genestelaer cultist partner, there’s literally nothing different except the cult bits from a regular relationship in 40K

Just like

‘This is my hot new BF, his name is Tyler Kraken.’

‘Hey babe, going back to your sewer cleaning sundays?’

[crisp heath]

[final spruce]

That's because ogryn grenades don't have a pin, you have to push the top and then throw it

[prisma lark]

complain? why would any Slayer worth their salt complain that they died?!

wait, wrong channel

[shadow plover]

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2022/07/13/nathaniel-garro-strikes-back-against-mortarion-in-a-new-siege-of-terra-novella/

[storm jungle]

Oh boy

I wonder whats gonna happen

||especially since the Khan decapitates Morty later||

[shadow plover]

well it's not that hard to guess even without that fact

but I'm intrigued how it will go down of course

[storm jungle]

The sooner this nightmare is done the better 💀

[shadow plover]

I recon after this is done they'll go balls deep with dawn of fire

[vapid tiger]

Doesn't dawn of fire suck ass

I have not read it

But I heard from somebody it's hh tier

[storm jungle]

most of them do

Throne of Light for example is pretty neat, so is Gate of Bones

then you got Wolftime 💀

[errant pike]

everyone shits on morty

i wonder if he'll do ||360 noscopes super fast gaming shenanigans while wounded beyond reason like khan||

[grand minnow]

Mortarian is gonna morb

Joking aside, as much as i enjoy nurgle, i never realy knew much on deathguard

[vast frigate]

||again?||

[rose thorn]

ghgsbhf im so excited for the daemon codex

over 100 pages of lore

do you think its gonna be filler or actual content?

[shadow plover]

lots of it will be the same stuff seen in each codex I'd suppose

but plenty of new for sure

[rose thorn]

i swear of over 50 pages is just humanity lore

horus heresy you bastards stay out of my daemon book, I NEED ORIGINALITYYYy

[vapid tiger]

Wrath and Glory defenders will be teamkilled in darktide

your taste in things you enjoy does not match mine, die

[final spruce]

Imagine being an ass to W&G enjoyers

[crisp heath]

WnG is really shitty ? XD

[final spruce]

Heh its different I wouldnt call it shitty in any waysince i did play the first edition of it before Cubicle took the reins, which was worse

[vapid tiger]

I'm jking but i invited someone to play dh and they said "why not wrath and glory"

which annoyed me

It's like if someone invited you to play pathfinder and you said "why not just play 5e???"

[final spruce]

I can understand but why Dh when Dh2 exusts

[vapid tiger]

i mean we runnin dh3

dh genesys

[final spruce]

Nevzr heard of or, fanpatch ?

[vapid tiger]

it's a fan hack ya

https://genesys40k.com/

Very well made

and free

[final spruce]

I am too lazy to read, dp you have any synopsis ?

[crisp heath]

DH is better than DH2 imo

[vapid tiger]

all the depth of dark heresy 2, with deathwatch+grey knights added in through a supplement, but using the narrative dice system from genesys

which originates from the star wars ffg rpgs

the weird dice ones

[final spruce]

I havent had the opportunity to play the SW onzs

[crisp heath]

Throne systems ❤️

Leave me be my Scum who love work at Strip tease and get some good info for an Heretical Missionary

:3

[final spruce]

🤨

[crisp heath]

What

It's work !

[vapid tiger]

[final spruce]

Youre like 16 🗿

[crisp heath]

I'm 30.

[vapid tiger]

[final spruce]

Lmao

[crisp heath]

Leave me die now

[final spruce]

I shall then

[crisp heath]

Thanks

https://tenor.com/view/dying-monkey-dying-gif-13123180

[final spruce]

You have reason to ngl

[grand minnow]

There he is officer, the slaanesh spy

[crisp heath]

I'm not Slaanesh Spy

IM SLAANESH

And Tzeench

Because why the fuck not

[vapid tiger]

This is why I'm scared to ask anyone in here to join my game

[crisp heath]

Why

[vapid tiger]

[crisp heath]

Me ?

Please

I work for the Emperor God

[vapid tiger]

[crisp heath]

Really

[vapid tiger]

[crisp heath]

Pfff

No one want to believe me

Really !

[grand minnow]

I just ignore people i dont like here

[vapid tiger]

no just kill them

that's what i did

I killed medic

[crisp heath]

Why did you do that

[vapid tiger]

idk why not

[crisp heath]

You right

[plush mason]

so if each primarch represented a part of the emperor's psyche which part did the lion represent?

or is that whole thing just some fan theory?

[lunar notch]

Sounds like fan theory to me.

Also, he represented being fabulous. If you get my meaning.

[plush mason]

can trader militants come from already established rogue trader clans?

[zinc snow]

Probably the part that was a cryptic, aloof, asshole that never let anyone in on what he was doing or thinking at any given point.

Literally The Dark Angels and Caliban fell apart mostly for the same reasons the heresy happened if I remember right. Where big E was like "Hey Horus I'm gonna fuck off for awhile now you're in charge of the Crusade."

"Hey Luther I'm gonna fuck off for awhile now you're in charge of Caliban."

But yeah it's a fan theory.

[rose thorn]

I’m so confused on how the fuck HH still gets more fucking books

Like this feels over done

Porbably a banger store tho

But wouldn’t there be a point where a shit load of 40K lore would have adjust for the new HH lore?

[scenic bolt]

they can advance the plot in HH as much as they want within reason cause it's ancient history and the TT/spinoffs arent as popular, advancing the plot in 40k has a different implication for setting and sales

[atomic pelican]

Nah 30k has such few implications that 40k existed before it

So they can just do whatever with it

[scenic bolt]

thats my point

[atomic pelican]

Oh ik

Im not disagreeing with u

[scenic bolt]

ah rr

[rose thorn]

An Ight

Anyway that’s why Corvus Corax should be the next loyalist primarch to return

[errant pike]

poop corax

[woven sandal]

As long as they don't kill off any extra primarchs, they should be fine to do just about whatever.

[rose thorn]

‘I Vulkan have retur-‘

[scenic bolt]

they should bring back the redacted primarchs

[rose thorn]

https://tenor.com/view/inugami-korone-snapped-vapourized-vaporized-obliterated-gif-24729500

[scenic bolt]

fresh slate fresh lore

[rose thorn]

Tbh I think it’s funnier that them and their legion are just deleted from the universe

And also they don’t have to bother why ppl like leman Russ knows about them

And why they didn’t help at all during all of HH

[errant pike]

they were having orgies with the eldar

[rose thorn]

What if it turns out like, some random ass tau or something somehow knows everything ever about the lost primarchs

Like he has a scrap book of selfies and shit with them

[errant pike]

vibing with the tau

[signal hill]

Vibing with the Tau sounds a bit farfetched
Since they were deleted before HH and raus culture seems to be only around 3k years old
Of course eldar is a legit Option

[errant pike]

hell yea

farseer tiddies

[zinc snow]

They're vibing with the Necron

Because Trazyn has them

Now that would be funny.

[zinc snow]

Look at Garro getting ready to take a swing at his old man. Todays the day and he looks pumped on that "fight your dad" energy.

[broken bridge]

so what do the marines inside a dreadnought do while no in battle? just like sleep until activated?

[atomic pelican]

Grandpa sleeping in his chair

[storm jungle]

Sleep in special shrine-stations in a fortress monastery/ship until re-activated

the more you use them the longer it takes for them to wake up for their next deployment

[errant pike]

the do a blub blub in the liquids inside

[storm jungle]

Also this.

[slate gate]

How warm are AdMech people? Normal body temperature, hot like running machinery or cold like dead people?

[wind flicker]

Probably cold where machinery isn't active

Very hot where it is

[storm jungle]

Pulsing reactor moment

[storm jungle]

Depends on the techpriest

[slate gate]

I suppose the more tech you graft and replace the flesh bits with, the less they care.

[storm jungle]

Nope

even as a hulking dishwasher techpriests can still have feelings and human emotions

Cawl is a good example of this

its down to the techpriest if they want to purge their human consciousness and replace it with cold mathematics/calculations and whatnot

[wind flicker]

Felicia tayber is a magos and still eats food

[zinc snow]

And may or may not have banged Ciaphas Cain.

[wind flicker]

She did

Cain knew where her dendrite was

[rose thorn]

Damn y’all, Corvus Corax is like, cool good guy but not in a stupid way.

Corvus Corax, favorite loyalist primarch

Still edgy as shit tho

But his morals and mentality actually make fucking sense

[safe wadi]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/784107973454200832/997395876651728927/Screenshot_20220715-025458_Reddit.jpg?width=1025&height=702

[hushed kayak]

i vouch for this too, after ||witnessing his own raven guard getting killed brutally. Then has a deep talk with his sons, and makes a promise he’ll hunt every traitor legion|| The man is incorruptible

[zinc snow]

Yeah, him along with Jaghatai Khan are probably the most reasonable primarchs.

Interestingly they both are pretty similar in that they were both freedom fighters who as far as I know had no actual desire or plans to rule.

[signal hill]

I dare say, people who don't want to rule make (often) better rulers then those who want to
(If they got a Sense of duty)

[vast frigate]

the warp, digging its grip into corvus to corrupt him
corvus; this is some gourmet shit son, thanks. Now back to killing the denizens of the warp

[novel fulcrum]

i think this is exactly why guilliman and johnson kept trying to make sanguinius be the emperor of their imperium secundus

[rose thorn]

Wait, so Corvus knows mostly everything about the geneseed projects and the primarch projects, this seems like some shit Fabius Bile would like to know and harass the shit out of Corvus for.

[novel fulcrum]

wouldn't be surprised if that would happen, ye

[cunning wigeon]

yeah and hates the experiments he did so much he put himself in self exposed exile

[novel fulcrum]

sad boyo being so hard on himself, even though it wasn't even his fault

[cunning wigeon]

I mean he did make the choice to try the experiments himself

he couldnt have predicted theyd be that fucked up though

[novel fulcrum]

well i mean

alpha legion sabotaged them, yes? that's why they went wrong?

[barren tapir]

Yes

[vast frigate]

I mean i doubt fabius would mess with corvus

He knows

[cunning wigeon]

knows better than to fuck with pissed off Corvus?

[barren tapir]

Bile, while being a complete madman actually make more reasonable choices than other characters

[novel fulcrum]

yeah, there is the whole not being able to perceive corvus problem

[barren tapir]

Ah, yeah, the innate warp power

[rose thorn]

In all complete honesty, if bile manages to actually have a conversation with Corvus with out being ripped to shreds, he could probably strike a deal to get the fuckin primarch creation kit (TM)

[storm jungle]

he already has custodes/primaris atm according to the new chaos codex

primarch gene-sperm will be next

[barren tapir]

Kinda calling it, bile new man project is gonna be next CSM

[cunning wigeon]

but corvus absolutely despises the chaos marines, dont think he'd be too willing to cut a deal

[rose thorn]

Yeah but he also created a loyalist fulgrim and generally with enough word gymnastics there’s at least a 30% chance of convincing

Anyway that’s why Corvus should be the next primarch to return

[novel fulcrum]

think of it now

Despairus Marines

[slender kraken]

Is anyone excited to see what Darktide brings to the lore table? Do you think there will be anything shocking or super new??

[storm jungle]

Nope

its just one small story in the larger setting of 40k

and not really tied to the main plot

[final spruce]

Usually the games really don't bring much in the tabletop, or only when its used as marketing ploy like having rules for Blood Ravens and having a mini for Angelos

[rose thorn]

Have any xenos done anything important in 40K as of late?

I really only see humans and chaos in the ‘main’ plot

[final spruce]

Get used to it, the Imperium are more or less the protagonists of 40k

I know Eldrad and Yvraine did do some stuff but their book serie never got finished

Tyranids don't really work for books

I know Ghaz has some stuff going on

[rose thorn]

Ah yeah when I first got into 40K I Thought it was just like the trend of the lore

[plush mason]

remember its a sci fi. meaning the humans will always be the main focus

[rose thorn]

Well luckily I like daemons- oh wait

They still don’t fucking get anything

[plush mason]

the only sci fis that dont focus on humans are those where humans dont exist at all

[rose thorn]

I was gonna say the endless universe but those aren’t humans

They are pilgrims and imperials

Which aren’t humans

Hm

What the fuck you are right

Anyway that’s why Corax should be the next primarch to return

[plush mason]

sadly the reason is simple. humans are easier to write about and easier for readers to understand and connect with

so with sci fi the alien races are almost always a side plot or any enemy

[rose thorn]

Okay so this is more of an AOS question, but why do so many khrone models have so much futuristic robot shit

[tawdry escarp]

Mass Effect did a pretty good job of fleshing out alien races

[plush mason]

still only a side plot tho. humans are the main focus

its just the sad fact of all sci fi

[tawdry escarp]

I wish more games had aliens you could play

Like Starcraft but not RTS

[plush mason]

unlike fantasy settings that have races that people have spend years if not centuries reading about the aliens of sci fi are well alien and thus much much harder to make the focus

[tawdry escarp]

I would love a third person hack and slash where you play a Protoss Templar

Or a Dark Templar

[cunning wigeon]

khorne forces mages to work in his special daemon forges so he gets the best equipment

[plush mason]

that and khorne's whole thing is brass and iron so a lot of his demons look machine like

[tawdry escarp]

Brass and Iron is a cool aesthetic

[plush mason]

yes

especially when the iron is painted red

[rose thorn]

Ah okay, makes scenes

[cunning wigeon]

also why all his bloodletters can afford to have really cool swords

mass produced by mages

[rose thorn]

It would be cool if the mages get table top models, maybe as forced support models, like risk them fucking exploding to heal khorne units or give them buffs

[cunning wigeon]

khornes psykers in 40k are cool too

[rose thorn]

please gw jm@fucking desperate

I know blood pact and sons of … what was it

Have khrone pykers

[cunning wigeon]

yeah and they are intimidating af

[atomic pelican]

Rip khorne psykers on the table

No more

[plush mason]

arent the blood pact gone?

[rose thorn]

Nah they are still a thing,

They just the modern GW treatment

SONS OF SEK

Tahts who I was thinking of

[shadow plover]

🤔

[ornate oracle]

My opinion: I'm surprised that they waited so long to release it

[wind flicker]

@odd tulip

[odd tulip]

Nuh-uh.

[ornate oracle]

Finally

some real thoughts on this issue

This is the opinion we need

So this lore conflict can be settled once and for all

[shell pebble]

What was said

[ornate oracle]

Mod deleted it

Afraid of the truth

[shell pebble]

Damn

[shadow plover]

it was sponge bob dick

[ornate oracle]

lie

[shell pebble]

Oof narsty

[shadow plover]

you know the meme

[ornate oracle]

pubic area

no dick

[storm jungle]

god

can you stop

lmao

[ornate oracle]

again with these half truths

[shadow plover]

half dicks

dick halves

[shell pebble]

Penis slices

[wind flicker]

Spiralizer

[cunning wigeon]

Oh yeah they're the dudes that wear hands over their mouthes right? If I remember correctly they worship the emperor still but think he is just another warp entity like the chaos gods. They're well supplied and trained too, with them being debatedly more capable than the non traitor guard.

[plush mason]

they look badass

oh so they are like a sub sect of the blood pact

[rose thorn]

They don’t worship the emperor, they worship the warp but believe the emperor is apart of the warp

But yeah siepr cool

[cunning wigeon]

Yeah but more equipped and better trained, planning to take over from the blood pact

[cunning wigeon]

Ah okay my mistake

[rose thorn]

Hey has chaos space marines’ new codex and models release yet? I see the new codex but no the new models

On the website

[final spruce]

The news minis might be special box only for a while

[rose thorn]

Ohhh okay

[atomic pelican]

The cult models?

They havent released yet

[rose thorn]

Gotchu

OH YEAH, anyone who owns the new chaos space marine codex, is all of emperors children just reused art and lore

[atomic pelican]

Yes, all the new art is Black Legion

Including the cover

Ik the first 2 are new and ivd never seen the others

[mortal lance]

That's pretty sick

[lunar notch]

I think that the third and fifth are from the 8th ed codex, and the one in the middle is from the 6th. I think.

[atomic pelican]

Yee I figured I'd just post all the big spreads to be sure

[lunar notch]

The Forgefiend one, I mean.

I might also be confusing it with a different pic, but I believe that pic of the Forgefiends is the one where they were "leaked"

We had art of them before we ever got a name and model and so on. I remember people arguing that they were just random daemon engines the artist came up with.

[frail rune]

Recently watched a lore video about the Alpha Legion

They are now my favorite

[rose thorn]

????

[final spruce]

Damn it sounds like a pretty decent ability

[rose thorn]

Emperors children love you but damn

lmao it seems pretty good

i might unironically run it

but

damn that shit is horny

[final spruce]

Its Emperor's Children

[rose thorn]

i know but this is probably one of the most like,

"okay my warlord has intoxicating musk.'

[wind flicker]

https://tenor.com/view/ice-husky-gif-5807576

[midnight mist]

Why you posting Leman Russ getting rewarded for a successful campaign during the Crusade?

[wind flicker]

he deserves it

[serene jungle]

This is bliss I can't even

[plush mason]

lol

[rose thorn]

The warp storm mechanic for chaos daemons sounds so fucking cool

I bet the crusade rules will match like that

Just the pure ever growing consumption of chaos chewing away at reality

And maybe just maybe

Chaos will actually affect the lore

[hybrid elk]

ok so im new to 40k but one thing i have noticed and dont quite understand is why does everyone hate perty? he just seems like rogal dorn but more bang bang shoot shoot with cool space powers.

also he tricked the green space knight into giving him cool shit so that has to count for something too, i dont really understand the hate

[lunar notch]

https://qr.ae/pvkY6t

[hybrid elk]

damn that was quick. people really do hate him

[lunar notch]

I like his aesthetic and his job, but that's about it.

[grand minnow]

Bel'akor is the only warhammer pissbaby i apreciate

[hybrid elk]

bruh. a lot of the primarchs arae arrogant little shits. and talking about being jerks to marines angron exists. why the hate towards the know it all jerk who wants to build shit but cant

[grand minnow]

Peter turbo is a piss baby just for the sake of it

[storm jungle]

Yeah just do your own take on Perty

people hate him for being childish but as you said thats literally half the primarchs

also Quora is legit awful for 40k questions

Most like him because hes pragmatic and an asshole with anger issues

[grand minnow]

Hes not irredemable, but he is very reddit athiest

[storm jungle]

Pretty much

[grand minnow]

Like horus heracy might have failed without him so hes a verry skilled leader

[storm jungle]

Yeah hes literally That One Guy that keeps your team together yet no one appreciates him

[hybrid elk]

i relate to him on that

[storm jungle]

he literally bailed during the Siege after seeing how useless his "allies" were

because they were so corrupted by chaos that they basically became mindless beasts

[hybrid elk]

didnt he bail out no one would give him a hug lol?

[storm jungle]

Nah

he left because he noticed nobody was doing anything

[hybrid elk]

something like everyone was being a dick

[storm jungle]

Basically

imagine playing TF2

and your entire team is in the spawn

[grand minnow]

"We are losing mid, im out"

[storm jungle]

AFKing

or not doing anything for the match

while you are screaming at them to move before you lose the game

and theres 5 minutes left

that was Perturabo during the Siege

[hybrid elk]

yeah i would leave too

[storm jungle]

Yup

he just took most of his marines and left

[hybrid elk]

oh well atelast he schooled dorn so all those entitled fist fuckers who cant help but suck off rogal beacause of rogal can shit the fuck up

[storm jungle]

SOMEONE GETS IT

https://tenor.com/view/armstrong-armstrong-handshake-gif-24880361

[grand minnow]

Im actualy a bit dissapointed so many loyalist primarks are dead or afk

[final spruce]

Tbh most loyalists are just afk

[grand minnow]

Meanwhile chaos has 1 dead

Or not

[storm jungle]

Yeah none of them are dead

minus like Ferrus and Sang

[final spruce]

I'm pretty sure Curze is dead

[storm jungle]

was meaning loyalist

[final spruce]

Ah

[grand minnow]

I want khan back

[hybrid elk]

give them enough time and both will come back

[grand minnow]

Actualy, why were 2 legions of marines just whiped from existance? Was it just no more ideas for some?

[hybrid elk]

cuz looks like everyone cant help but love sangy(as everyone should.) and most people cant get enough of ferrus manus' hot metal hands(not my words)

[storm jungle]

As to allude to the lost roman legions

aside from that its never been fully revealed

just minor hints

[lunar notch]

I mean, it's never been revealed at all AFAIK. Abnett literally said that introducing the missing legions lore is something he would hate more than anything.

[grand minnow]

they were ugly and big e killed them

[storm jungle]

Yes thats what I said.

[final spruce]

I've read that , at first they were supposed to be a "Build a Primarch" type of deal where people would be able to make their own primarch and chapter, the idea ended up being refused for multiple reasons including copyright and production

[storm jungle]

Nah

that was never the case

they were just a roman legion reference

one of the old GW designers himself said the "build a primarch" thing was never the intention

[grand minnow]

A custom legion rule would be cool, like necron dynasties

[storm jungle]

and more just a theory people made up

[final spruce]

Good to know then

[storm jungle]

Yeah its from like a really old dakka dakka thread

where one of the fans interviewed the dev somewhere

so it exists in text format in a really long dump

[hybrid elk]

i still like the idea that they couldnt be asred with anything so just let everyone build a bear their demi god with daddy issues

[grand minnow]

Imposter legiond

[storm jungle]

[grand minnow]

Dammit, howd you find one so fast?

[hybrid elk]

AMOGUS

Still a better primarch than that megacunt morty

[storm jungle]

Commissioned one from a friend

[hybrid elk]

SUS

[shadow plover]

imagine hating perturabo

quite sad

[grand minnow]

I dont hate him, just not as fun

[cursive sigil]

Hey at least he brained fulgrim with basically a forge world titan model. If nothing else his petulant grouchiness lead to some sick burns against the other traitor primarchs.

[plush mason]

that episode made me like him more ngl

[storm jungle]

to be fair

its Quora

[atomic pelican]

I feel like the least cared abt primarch is Ferrus Manus

[storm jungle]

to be fair

he has no character

LEL

[atomic pelican]

Exactly

RHSBD

[storm jungle]

Okay he does but like

hes so fucking

basic

[atomic pelican]

Entire character is getting owned by fulgrim

[storm jungle]

YEAH

[atomic pelican]

Dorn too

[storm jungle]

also being gay together which is based

[atomic pelican]

His character is being tonka truck colored

[storm jungle]

LOL

Dorn is basically:

"Wont like him unless you are an Fist stan"

[atomic pelican]

Bob the Builder lookin ass

[tired umbra]

I wish we'd get a book about Ferrus.

[atomic pelican]

Pert is based simply for the Iron Cage

[plush mason]

like wasnt Dorn canonically described as having the personality of a brick wall?

like 100% literal all the time and never learned how to laugh

[tired umbra]

Dorn has plenty of personality.

[plush mason]

oh

nvm then

[tired umbra]

He's just not as wild and wacky as others.

Very much all business and matter of fact.

[plush mason]

so the last guy you want at a party

[tired umbra]

Pretty much.

[plush mason]

so yeah. a brick

[tired umbra]

Just because someone isn't "fun" doesn't make them a brick.

[storm jungle]

https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/51d9NfzAhfL._AC_SY780_.jpg

[plush mason]

i know buts thats generally how people tend to view those with a purely literal and matter of fact personality

for most people personality=funny and highly social

[rose thorn]

did someone say fulgrin?

[atomic pelican]

Yeah we were talking abt how Ferrus' main trait was getting owned by him LMAO

[rose thorn]

OHHH

[rose thorn]

how hes entire personality is being really good friends with fulgrim and nothing else?

[wind flicker]

Space wolves got their claws into furrus being collared huh

[plush mason]

?

was that a really bad furry joke?

[wind flicker]

Yes

[plush mason]

k

well sadly

i have to deduct social credit for that

https://tenor.com/view/domnu-barbu-social-credit-gif-23573664

[rose thorn]

-15 golden thrones

[plush mason]

lmao

[rose thorn]

know what, i love emperors children but im not making an EC army, im just gonna wait

since their codex is all but confimed for 10th

[plush mason]

smart

[rose thorn]

i want to make a CSM just not sure who tho

army

[plush mason]

khornite

[rose thorn]

nah

i dont want to do a cult marine army

[plush mason]

world eaters then

[rose thorn]

world eaters is a cult marine army

[plush mason]

oof

how about iron warriors?

[rose thorn]

i was thinkingt me too

not too sur ehto but htey are funny

[plush mason]

they have the benefit of not being associated with slannseh and the memes there of

[atomic pelican]

Why dont u just do EC. Not like their army lists are gonna change when their codex comes out

[rose thorn]

I DONT KNO WHyy i feel so indecisive about it

[plush mason]

damn. plus you never know. a miracle may happen and GW add to chaos

[rose thorn]

i think the reason is i dont wanan do a mono chaos god amry

[vapid tiger]

just do the most obscure csm warband possible

[plush mason]

yeah i couldnt even type that with a straight face lol

[vapid tiger]

with the best color scheme

[atomic pelican]

The only things which will really change when EC get a book

daemon primarch fulgrim

noise marines as troops

[rose thorn]

yeah but my frail mind cant handle being mono god

[plush mason]

you mean snake boi will stop fucking himself in his little pity party and start fighting again?

that post almost killed my discord wtf

[vapid tiger]

Inferior ferrus artwork

mfer is one of the most evil primarchs with one of the most evil legions

needs to look ebil

[atomic pelican]

Correction because Noise Marines are already troops for EC

[cursive sigil]

Could do night lords all of the edge of EC none of the mono god.

[rose thorn]

i do like horrificallye vil factions

but night lords dont have the classiness

Actuallly i could just make both EC and anotehr faction

[cursive sigil]

Lorgars lost children?

[rose thorn]

actually yeah why dont i do that?

[cursive sigil]

Go for it!

Only good reason not to do two armys is...... Financial collapse

[vapid tiger]

fuck ec

flawless host ftw

[rose thorn]

oh you dont kn

ow

flawless hosts are gone

[vapid tiger]

From the new codex

Not surprised, just do what people did before the 8th ed codex

run them as ec

sigvald the magnificent but in 40k and an entire chapter of sigvalds

flawless host FUNNY

[plush mason]

as much as i hated that fucker. he was still the best chaos lord in TWWH lol

[vapid tiger]

he's getting his own faction in tww3 immortal empires

and the faction icon is his face

[plush mason]

ofc it is

why would it not be?

[wind flicker]

Long hair

[rose thorn]

mna shame all the lesser warbands lroe fucking BLOWSSSSSSSSSS

RED CORsairs dont count

and creations

their lroe is pretty good

[rose thorn]

holy fuck thse guys look so cool

I REALIZE WHAT I WANT IN A CSM LEGION

AND WHAT I LOVE ABOUT CHAOS DAEMONs

its like

the bringers of the apocalypses

warp storms and daemons are signs of the endings of reality

for that planet at least

thats what i love

chaos kngiht is on your planet thats bascially the edn

oh my god i just thought of the perfect way to maek my Chaos space mairne army

jsut make them all like

different CSM warbands

YES

ITS PERFECT

[crisp heath]

https://tenor.com/view/warhammer-40k-heresy-intensifies-gif-9412349

[rose thorn]

TRUE UNDIVIDED HERESY

[errant pike]

maggie schizo rant about csm

[rose thorn]

Aka me on a daily basis

Look I have over 2000 points of daemons pre new codex reveal

[rose thorn]

My sanity left the moment I decided to like chaos

[errant pike]

fellow chaos enjoyer very nice

best person in the server

[rose thorn]

YEEEE thank you

Chaos is da best

So far I have an extinction angel Slaanesh CLTA and Blood Gorgon tzeetch Master of possession, both unpainted✨

[errant pike]

i have two warp talons and a raptor to finish

but lately i've been nerding hard on tww3

[rose thorn]

Has it gotten an update or something? I haven’t heard much about it besides when it first launched

Which I heard it was very

Meh

[errant pike]

realms of chaos aren't bs anymore

not a breakthrough but not bad either

an enjoyable experience

i notice that troops take a lot more damage than tww2

[rose thorn]

Oh nice

[errant pike]

sort of like troy

[fierce pendant]

there'll be like immortal empires beta in august

so people are also preparing for that

[rose thorn]

Ahhhh

[fierce pendant]

It's suppousedly free this time without forcing you to own previous games

[errant pike]

considering how the start of the game went it's a good call

[rose thorn]

All the red tape and owning 3 games with dlc is kinda what’s been keeping me from trying the games tbh

Which is weird because I’m completely aware I’m only going to play daemons

[fierce pendant]

Also Azazel was hinted at with some short trailer not too long ago

Also forgot, Chaos warriors are getting a rework of the faction, and Archaon gota new model, plus the horses are no longer pony sized

[errant pike]

gang

i finished khorne's campaign and i'm playing slaanesh rn

[rose thorn]

I’m just super happy that like the dameons are fully out and animated and shit

Seeing how the move

And all the personality stuffed into them

[errant pike]

shame they have few units

[fierce pendant]

dlcs

;y

dameons most likely will get it at least though

I doubt ogre kingdoms will get anything

😦

[rose thorn]

I’m so curious to see what flamersnact like

Like how the fuck do they move

And shoot

Do they spit a ball of fire

Or is a fire beam

[high vapor]

If they ain’t adding thanquol I ain’t getting the game

[serene jungle]

no thanq

gg

[alpine ingot]

to quote myself: "That also implies Ferrus is Guts, and that is a tad bit insulting to Guts because he actually has character."
Pretty much every single primarch had something interesting about them and made you want to learn a bit more about them, hell I hate Fulgrim but he's still an interesting guy. Ferrus's one interesting point is how he got his metal arms and that's about it.

[tired umbra]

There's also his plans for the future. He was going to stop the Iron Hands from going buckwild with the FLESH IS WEAK deal.

Because he saw where it was going to lead.

[brittle coral]

Dorn has the best character :D

[slender orchid]

Actual Dorn? Yeah, kind of a complex character. Meme Dorn from people who haven't read a book? Nah

Only other Primarch who bore the title of "Emperor" before Big E showed up. Only other Primarch who ruled multiple worlds.

Only Primarch who dared to copy the Emperor's armor, which Alpharius points out is kind of suspicious. Loyalist who is okay killing or imprisoning people he knows are loyal, because of their associations or having been exposed to Horus. Quiet, fierce, capable. Dorn is interesting.

[storm jungle]

Only other Primarch who bore the title of "Emperor" before Big E showed up

Sanguinius has bored the title too.

Only other Primarch who ruled multiple worlds.

Guilliman's feats regarding the ruling of planets is much more impressive compared to a footnote place like Inwit.

Only Primarch who dared to copy the Emperor's armor

He didn't really copy anything. And again, Sanguinius has done the same with his own armor.

Loyalist who is okay killing or imprisoning people he knows are loyal, because of their associations or having been exposed to Horus.

This isn't exactly anything to brag about, Dorn's arrogance regarding even Garro himself warning him of their sibling treachery yet him refusing to believe it since hes so thickheaded speaks a lot more about his faults in personality. He is about as "capable" as most loyalist Primarchs and has still done many mistakes.

[rose thorn]

whats your favorite non founding legion chaos warband?

not counting red corsairsa and Creations of bile

[slender orchid]

Dil, you really don't parse or read well. "Only other Primarch who bore the title of "Emperor" before Big E showed up." there is a qualifier there. Sanguinius was not an Emperor before found by big E.

Point of fact, he was GIVEN the title by Guilliman.

Dorn and Guilliman were Emperors in their own right before being found

[storm jungle]

Thanks

but yeah

Dorn is an interesting primarch but i can understand why people wouldnt be interested in him since even after reading most stuff with him in it hes just... okay

unless you are like a Marine/Fist fan

[wind flicker]

there are primarchs besides sanguinus?

[slender orchid]

Sanguinius embellishes his crimson plate with Gold. Dorn straight up copies the Emperor's armor. This is pointed out by Alpharius and Lorgar off the top of my head. Alpharius goes so far as to imply Dorn is aiming to betray the Emperor long before the Heresy, and that is why the Emperor keeps him close

[storm jungle]

LOL

sadly

[slender orchid]

And no, jailing and killing innocent people isn't GOOD, or brag worthy. It is "interesting" based on his other personality traits, where he insists on what is "right" all of the time.

Guilliman gets credit for the Codex Astartes, Dorn helped write the Lex Imperialis (Laws of the Imperium). For a guy so obsessed with the rules and justice to act in such a way shows fear, or paranoia.

[grand minnow]

Hey, vulcan and jagekai khan are cool

[storm jungle]

yeah but im biased

I like mister spaghetti hair

[vapid tiger]

man's entire character is written around the fact that he dies later

therefore he must be the goodest boy to make things more tragic when he does

and then dumb motherfuckers want him to come back to life what the fuck is wrong with blood angels fans

[slender orchid]

I mean, the other half of his character is he very, VERY nearly fell to Chaos

[vapid tiger]

ya but that's because space vampire

and added in to help flesh him out

[slender orchid]

And even warhammer community jokes about how flesh tearers and world eaters are.... difficult to distinguish

[vapid tiger]

I mean chaos worshippers and subscribers of the imperial cult can be hard to distinguish in both behavior and sometimes even looks

[grand minnow]

One tears flesh, the other eats dirt

[vapid tiger]

ba dum tss

[grand minnow]

i do like world eaters though, cause big e did angron dirty

[lunar notch]

Also Kharn is based

[slender orchid]

anyone who beats the shit out of Erebus gets a 👍

[smoky mauve]

That scene with ||Arkhan Land whent he big e asked for a second opinion on the butchers nails||

[grand minnow]

||ah yes, the famous stl finder of the land raider||

[slender orchid]

and the speeder

[atomic pelican]

Must I say it

[icy pagoda]

Tim the Accountant, Lord of Financial Arbitration

[vapid tiger]

Flawless host or warp ghosts

[rose thorn]

besides th black legion

too

ive never heard of the warp ghosts

ill add them to da list

[lunar notch]

Soul Drinkers

[rose thorn]

https://tenor.com/view/sad-boy-troll-face-gif-22103800

oh yeah soul drinkers are heretic astarties huh

[lunar notch]

Correct, but they didn't know that.

IIRC they thought they were derived from the IF's geneseed.

Yeah, IF.

I am pretty rusty on my lore, but I think that when the Ultima Founding occurred the Soul Drinkers were rebooted.

[errant pike]

yea

all primaris

[midnight mist]

What I hate more honestly is the people who want him to fall to Chaos at the last minute and have it be the Emperor who killed him, just for the sake of "subverting expectations"

[midnight mist]

There's credible theories they were 2nd or 11th legion successors, who survived due to the Fists taking in the survivors of those legions after their purge.

[vapid tiger]

I mean geneseed wasn't the source of their fall that was due to circumstance

They found out later that they probably weren't even if successors

[median sundial]

What's the deal with the Leagues of Votann? No not like "why are they here" or something I mean where do they stand? Are they a part of the Imperium, an adjacent ally or some weird outlier?

[cunning wigeon]

they said in the first community post

somewhat independent but may sometimes work with the imperium

have alot of tech heresy to the imperium though

[median sundial]

Yeah I saw the AI stuff and I knew for a fact the Imperium wouldn't like that very much.

Ok so they're strained allies.

[storm jungle]

Not really allies

Votann will be mercs to anyone with the right payment

so they arent subservient to anyone but the Ancestor Cores that count as their AI leaders

[final spruce]

Do we have anything noting them as mercs ? So I've read that they were independent from the other factions

[vast frigate]

They basically go; if youre not an orc or eldar and the pay is good, we will consider

[storm jungle]

Older post

too lazy to go dig it up since warcom format sucks ass

[final spruce]

Well nothing about Eldar hate so far

[storm jungle]

also yeah that lol

but dwarf players will be brainlets so give it time

[final spruce]

I saw them being mentioned as traders in the latest post

I guess it would go with the merc aswell

[storm jungle]

Yeah they are keeping those dwarven aspects

[final spruce]

They just stay neutral and trade

[lunar notch]

Give it time. There will be some book with Cawl and the Squats and it'll have him completely fucking them up and stealing everything he can get his hands on.

[storm jungle]

Yeah pretty much

also a good way to have them fight anyone they need

[fierce pendant]

someone said dwarf players?

looks at calendar

Today I'll hate the eldar and elves for...

[errant pike]

sex

[storm jungle]

The daily dwarf larper mindset

[fierce pendant]

BaalBuddy's art?

[storm jungle]

Yea

[fierce pendant]

The truly based man

[storm jungle]

its the one where the ork baits a reddit discussion for dwarves and they just take the bait

which is scarily accurate