#40k-lore-chat

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broken bridge
plush mason
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so the leman russ is the M1A1 of 40k lol

barren tapir
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If the m1a1 is also an awfully designed tank then yes

plush mason
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one can argue it is lol

granite gull
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the goofiest weapon

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name a goofier imperial weapon you can't

plush mason
brittle nebula
granite gull
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look at the magazine Ves'Zekium, The Eternal

brittle nebula
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I see it.

granite gull
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now tell me

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how does that feed

brittle nebula
plush mason
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and what is magic? heresy

brittle nebula
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This is Mechanicus magic. It is not heresy

plush mason
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nah the mechanicus fixed it

granite gull
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oh my god

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yeah id drop 370 aquilas for a super soaker

plush mason
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who cares

brittle nebula
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It just works

plush mason
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rule of cool is all that matters

granite gull
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don't ask don't tell it just shoots

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" so uhh how do i reload this thing commissar?"

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loud bolter fire

brittle nebula
granite gull
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where does the triplex load from

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I HAVE A ANSWER FOR YOU

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the ryza loads like a musket

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you just drop double a batters down the barrel

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batteries

cerulean wagon
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its a raypunk gun

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its supposed to look like that

plush mason
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that uniform is horrid

cerulean wagon
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ye because krieg aren't all that good

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also jopal are a joke regiment

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also the ryza is a good gun it just looks good because its a different scifi style

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its not designed on current 40k stuff, but its the old 40k standard

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yes, but that literally doesn't matter

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its a scifi raygun

granite gull
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it's very silly

cerulean wagon
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the ryza is just the old model of lasgun all IG had on their models

plush mason
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oof

cerulean wagon
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yes

plush mason
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yes

cerulean wagon
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scifi raygun

plush mason
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dont try to use real world logic for 40k weapons. it will drive you insane

spark relic
cerulean wagon
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yes

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raypunk

spark relic
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Does it look reasonable? no. Does it look absolutely awesome? yes, yes it does

vapid tiger
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Pure 40k

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gw should make an upgrade kit for them so that guardsmen can use a real weapon

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"Dae 40k should be realistic and serious" ppl should be eaten alive by a pack of angry chihuahuas

plush mason
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lol

storm jungle
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Im glad the arrow is there

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i thought the obscure monster was the bearded man on the left

alpine ingot
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no it's the haircut that is the obscure monster obviously

vapid tiger
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Weshammer more like

Borehammer

storm jungle
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Honestly he tells really neat lore

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the problem is he presents it in the most obnoxious way

grand minnow
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Im afraid to click his vids even if i know they are ok

plush mason
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why?

grand minnow
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Its the thumbnails honestly. Im not a big fan of clickbaity stuff

plush mason
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fair

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so is rockcrete just concrete with a different name?

hushed kayak
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tbh what’s WesHammer content like? I kinda like majorkill and luetin more.

plush mason
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he is like a mix of those 2

hushed kayak
plush mason
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a lot more serious than majorkill but not as in depth as luetin

hushed kayak
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so he’s mid

plush mason
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more or less ya

hushed kayak
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hmmmm

plush mason
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he is also up front about where his lore comes from

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a mix of wikis and the books he has read and his own speculations based on all that info

hushed kayak
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at least it’s not onesyndicate who literally reads it off the wiki

plush mason
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yeah

hushed kayak
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deadlifts for the dark gods channel. His shorts is pretty good too

grand minnow
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I realy should read the necron lore book, i havent found too many youtubers who say necron lore

hushed kayak
grand minnow
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Yes but i ment like specific stuff like a vid about canopteks. Single stuff

hushed kayak
grand minnow
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Fair enough, probably why i se little on them

hushed kayak
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Even tho they’re one of the biggest favourites in the tabletop. They don’t seem to give much info overall. The Tau is in the same position, and the Eldars have loads of them. Since people are big on elves lol

atomic pelican
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The eldar have like 5 books out of 2 series

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And all of them are written by the worst author employed

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The tau have like

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3 books

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ALL of which only focus on FSE

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Necrons have probably gotten the best books of any xeno

hushed kayak
atomic pelican
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I believe that happened in a TSon book

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Where Yvvraine appeared

hushed kayak
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shit, goes to show how much of a sm loser i am lol

atomic pelican
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Its okay

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The xeno books tend to be bad anyway

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The best ones are like, the Crons and Chambers' old Drukhari books

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GSC have 2 books named after them that are actually more guard trash LMAO

hushed kayak
atomic pelican
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Yes

hushed kayak
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that’s actually tragic

atomic pelican
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Cult of the Spiral has a guard pov

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And Day of Ascendancy. Actually, an admech one iirc

hushed kayak
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wow no wonder people are mad that xenos don’t get the good stuff DeadInside

atomic pelican
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Its honestly, truly, not that big of a loss. I used to be more upset abt it, but after reading alot more, I've learned most BL publications are basically trash anyway

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So Im fine as long as models and rules keep coming

hushed kayak
atomic pelican
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I havent played it, but Ive heard alot of good things!

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I would try it but im currently starting CSM

grand minnow
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Same, i wanted either chaos undevided army or world eaters for HH

hushed kayak
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i’m debating if i should create an army on it, since some models can be played in 40k. Or even all of them if they’re allowed by the rules

tender igloo
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i've only read the horus heresy rules. but they seem very fun

atomic pelican
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All of them can be ran in 40k I believe

tender igloo
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the reaction system is really cool and i hope it comes to 40k

hushed kayak
atomic pelican
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If you're doing loyalists I'd absolutelt go for it. I was actually considering the same thing.

But for Chaos, 40k's warbands have alot more personality over their 30k predecessors IMO

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YEP

vapid tiger
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Yeah I'm doing thousand sons for 30k

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Cause I like the rules

hushed kayak
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looks at my 3000 point alpha legion army

atomic pelican
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ALOT of people at my store just got the HH box for 40k stuff

hushed kayak
tender igloo
vapid tiger
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lame o potatoes

grand minnow
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Only real space marines i like are whitscars and world eaters tbh

atomic pelican
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Yeah, I mostly mean aesthetically. The traitor legions of 30k lack Lots of Spikes

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LMAO

tender igloo
atomic pelican
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Its an amazing value tbf, I think the HH box might be the highest price efficiency for marines u can get

hushed kayak
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wow is the HH series not big or am i missing something. Because there’s GOD DAMN PRIMARCHS THAT CAN BE USED

atomic pelican
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Really gorgeous primarchs too

tender igloo
hushed kayak
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i know it existed for years but it exploded big time this year

tender igloo
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especially if you get it at a 15 to 20% discount like i did from my flgs

grand minnow
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Im a bit afraid of the rules for hh tho, im hoping someone at my lgs can teach me

vapid tiger
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They're p easy once you learn em imo

atomic pelican
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I'm sure there will be. And HH seems alot fluffiee than 40k's rules

tender igloo
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i am also glad in HH they did not go the route of making every legion their own book

grand minnow
atomic pelican
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Hh in general is more narrative, less comp, from what I've been told

hushed kayak
atomic pelican
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HH is 7e 40k basically

vapid tiger
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HH uses the older 40k rules from 3rd-7th ed, but cleaned up from 7th

Which were much more geared towards narrative games

atomic pelican
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With some new stuff now, reactions n such

wind flicker
grand minnow
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I loie narritive play. Hmmm

atomic pelican
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HH 2.0 makes me excited for 10e 40k

tender igloo
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i am glad that HH seems to be taking off the way it is

wind flicker
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Narrative is best

grand minnow
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Sadly i either suck at the narritive, or dont play much of it

wind flicker
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Collective writing wh is way better than spreadsheet wh

tender igloo
hushed kayak
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what’s crazy is that my local store how a lot of forgeworld stuff. Which is crazy but pricey, i think it’s time to head there in maybe in a month.

atomic pelican
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Yeah thats what Im thinking

vapid tiger
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Like

A good example is that damage rolls aren't a thing and instead there's something called Instant Death

Basically captain bob will instantly die from a powerfist if he fails his save against it because it's twice his toughness

It's faster but you have to be aware of that rule

grand minnow
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Ooo i like that

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dam now im realy pissed my necrons cant join

tender igloo
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games also tend to be bigger than 40k. the average HH game seems to be about 2500 to 3000 points

hushed kayak
wind flicker
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Necrons have to sit in the glowy nickelodeon slimr where they belong

vapid tiger
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The WS chart too

If a fighter is more skilled than the other, it'll be easier for them to hit their opponent and harder for the opponent to hit them

hushed kayak
grand minnow
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I got a good deal and ordered the big boi for necrons

vapid tiger
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But you do have to remember the chart

vapid tiger
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Close to it

tender igloo
hushed kayak
hushed kayak
tender igloo
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a tank, dreadnought, 40 tactical marines, 10 terminators and 2 hqs

vapid tiger
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The tank being a spartan

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A 350 point monster of a land raider that can carry 26 guys or 13 terminators

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And also have a flare shield for +50 points, making it AV 15 against shooting attacks

hushed kayak
tender igloo
vapid tiger
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It's about 300 yeah

tender igloo
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you also get the templates dice and the big rule book in the box

vapid tiger
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Ya

tender igloo
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i've been steadily working on my alpha legion HH force

hushed kayak
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how’s that working for you

tender igloo
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pretty good

hushed kayak
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that’s a beauty right there

vapid tiger
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I'm waiting for some upgrades and boxes to come in before I touch the praetors in my box

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So they can look more thousand sons-y

wind flicker
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Nice sword

vapid tiger
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Just a couple of headswaps and a khopesh is all I need

hushed kayak
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so wait you can use all the units for your army in that box?

vapid tiger
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Ya

tender igloo
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yes sir

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it is an army in a box

hushed kayak
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that a good god damn deal

vapid tiger
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It can be split into two armies but hardly anyone is doing that

tender igloo
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they really wanted people to get into horus heresy

hushed kayak
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way better than the command edition wtf

vapid tiger
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They're pushing it as a new mainline game

tender igloo
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they are proving that point as well with all the new plastic releases

vapid tiger
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It has existed for years so it's effectively being "upgraded" to mainline status

hushed kayak
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yeah without a doubt i’m heading to my local store to get it

tender igloo
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it is crazy to me how many resin kits they have redone in plastic

vapid tiger
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Ya

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With more on the way

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Mechanicum is supposed to be getting some plastic release(s) when their book is released for 2.0

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Only one I assume won't have anything in plastic will be solar auxilia since that was alan bligh's baby

hushed kayak
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i think i’m gonna add a knight to the army tbh

vapid tiger
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My plan is to slowly build my force up to 3000 points and then add a fellblade

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and then magnus

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and also some extras

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5k is the goal but that's gonna be a long way away

hushed kayak
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is the fellblade gonna be magnetic?

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i keep hearing those lately

vapid tiger
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rn the fellblade is resin

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magnetic stuff is just conversion work

hushed kayak
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so mainly forgeworld has been the main runner for HH series

vapid tiger
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Ya

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The uh

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Game

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The bl series is a bl thing and is egh

tender igloo
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i believe the main guy running it was alan bligh before he passed away a few years ago

vapid tiger
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Ya

hushed kayak
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jesus christ

vapid tiger
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Game's been a thing since 2012 tho

hushed kayak
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i’m looking at my store catalogue and uh it’s a bit overwhelming lol

wind flicker
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Yeah the catalogues are intimidating

hushed kayak
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@tender igloo what’s your army set up looking so far, from one alpha legion to another

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AND WHY DOES ALPHARIUS COST MORE THAN THE OTHER PRIMARCHS???

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nvm sanguinius is $210

tender igloo
hushed kayak
tender igloo
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it's just a start, and even that is not going to be all at once

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plus i know a good recaster who can get me the lernaean termies for much cheaper

hushed kayak
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damn that’s amazing, what’s the chance of adding the primarch in there worrylook

tender igloo
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pretty high

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alpharius is in the top 3 primarch models IMO

hushed kayak
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yeah idk why he’s so expensive

tender igloo
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i'm also looking at getting 2 more contemptor dreads once it comes out as a separate kit, and building a melee dread and a gun dread

hushed kayak
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how much points is this army leading up to lol

tender igloo
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5000 points is about the goal so that i have some play with what i can use

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like i said the average game is about 2500 to 3000 points. so i want options

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it also helps that tanks are actually fun and useful in horus heresy unlike in 40k where they insta-die. it makes me actually want to get the kits more

atomic pelican
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Yeah vehicles are in kinda of a sad state rn. I think T9 land raiders n such is going the way if helping it tho

hushed kayak
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oh boy gonna have to read on what i need for the army. Plus this is gonna be hella pricy but why not, gacha is hell, warhammer is hell too

tender igloo
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life is hell

atomic pelican
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Atleast you can touch the money sink with warhammer

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LMAO

tender igloo
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but life is a fun kind of hell

hushed kayak
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basically the imperium at this point lol

tender igloo
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also finally a plastic leviathan dreadnought

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hushed kayak
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this is too much options lol

tender igloo
hushed kayak
signal hill
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I just read that squat thing
'While the Power Armour of the Adeptus Astartes is always evolving'
lol...not really, at least not for the last 10k years
besides that it was a good read

unique berry
rose thorn
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Tbh I just like that HH models can be used for first born marines

vapid tiger
tawdry escarp
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A somber moment that shows the more human side of Space Marines

dusty swift
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Yet more proof that marines are the best faction for a reason

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Kind of a bummer there aren't space marine rejects in darktide, like failed scouts or blackshields or something

autumn cypress
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Space marines are ludicrously op in terms of humanoids

storm jungle
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They really arent

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lmao

storm jungle
dusty swift
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I wish

unique berry
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The Angels of Death serie was so good

dusty swift
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Unfortunate that liking space marines is now considered bait due to uh

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GW pumping them out like no tommorow

storm jungle
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Not really, but okay.

dusty swift
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What's the difference between an ogryn being playable and a space marine reject

storm jungle
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Because they are completely different?

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in like every aspect?

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and most space marine rejects just remain regular humans

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mostly just bloated or disabled in some way due to geneseed rejection

unique berry
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I cant hear that space marine arent in darktide shit anymore its way better without them shows the true horror for the normies in the 40K

dusty swift
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I mean like space marines who were tossed out of their chapters and into a prison

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Like those thunder warriors

storm jungle
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Thunder Warriors were massacred

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they never went into prison

autumn cypress
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I was about to say

storm jungle
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theres only like 2-4 survivors

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who are probably all dead by now

autumn cypress
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Yeah defector marines are murdered generally... to my knowledge

unique berry
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Lol Thunders got slaughter good back on terra lol

storm jungle
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Yeah lmao

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they were just bad product

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also literal psychopaths so lul

unique berry
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Cheap beta version lol

autumn cypress
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Unstable but more powerful

storm jungle
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Yeah what Cubic said

unique berry
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Shorter life tho

autumn cypress
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Much

storm jungle
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Super Cancer Moment™️

vapid tiger
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they kill them

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they typically either kill them or just send them to the deathwatch but as blackshields

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or put them in their own chapter prisons

unique berry
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Deathwatch is pure love ngl

vapid tiger
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like the blood angels who have a tower filled with marines who have fallen to the black rage

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but who are not far gone enough to be killed yet

unique berry
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Image seeing a SM in a military prison 🤔

final spruce
autumn cypress
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That's like seeing killer croc in arkham asylum

vapid tiger
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Imagine being a marine whose job is to guard Brother Jerry in the fortress monastery prison because Jerry decided to kill a few dozen civilians as he was slaughtering orks

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and keep him from escaping his cell

unique berry
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Sounds like a fun job to have

wind flicker
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Space marines lose to an ogryn 1v1

tranquil umbra
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but fr, anything in warhammer can kill each other

wind flicker
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You know in your heart it's true

tranquil umbra
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just a matter of situation

atomic pelican
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Child with rock vs wave serpent death battle

storm jungle
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LMFAO

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PLEASE

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NO

unique berry
tranquil umbra
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halfiling vs imperator titan

storm jungle
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An ogryn is strong enough to tear a space marine limb from limb.

The issue is, of course, that a space marine is intelligent, quick-witted, extensively trained and has excellent reflexes.

vapid tiger
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i mean there are stories of ogryns grabbing chaos space marines and like

wind flicker
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Who would win

vapid tiger
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piledriving them into spikes to impale them

wind flicker
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Ogryn with rock

atomic pelican
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CSM dont count they get jobbered as much as anyone else

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LMAO

wind flicker
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Or spehhs muhreen with rok

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Answer is clear....

vapid tiger
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space marines do have plot armor

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loyal ones anyway

tranquil umbra
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you said rok?

atomic pelican
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Exactly

storm jungle
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Chaos Marines are the Stormtroopers of 40k

wind flicker
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Snore armor amirite

vapid tiger
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i'd say it's an even match between a "trained" militarum ogryn and a random mook line infantry tactical marine

atomic pelican
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But yeah, an ogryn has pretty alright chances in melee vs a mahren

wind flicker
atomic pelican
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CSM are either amazing or awful depending on the writer

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Ex) a chaos writer vs Abnett guard wanking

vapid tiger
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probably closer to the ogryn winning but taking a pounding tho

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like

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both killing each other sort of situation

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however if you have a whole space marine squad against like 3 ogryns then like

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ogryns b fucked

wind flicker
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Ogryn with a gun versus a space marine tied down watching cctv of the space wolf fortress

vapid tiger
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the space marine is already dead

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from his eyes having melted into his brain

wind flicker
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Exactly

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Ogryn wins

storm jungle
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thats just Five Nights at Freddys

wind flicker
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Shhhh

storm jungle
atomic pelican
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Holy fuck

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John Fredbear Warhammer

unique berry
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Space wolve furry jokes are still a thing? Lol

wind flicker
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Always will be

dusty swift
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Space Wolves should be badass runic vikings tho

wind flicker
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They are furries

dusty swift
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Real symbols of heritage in the 40k universe

vapid tiger
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...

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what?

storm jungle
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Heritage?

unique berry
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Wut

wind flicker
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Real image of leman russ

atomic pelican
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That would be ideal

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I would like swoofs if that were the case

vapid tiger
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real image of leman russ

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there is no goddamned viking it's all made up by bjorn

unique berry
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Ia there any info if Russ adn his Honorguard are dead or they still doing a fighting

wind flicker
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James workshop....

vapid tiger
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but yeah this original design for russ when primarchs weren't even a thing is great

storm jungle
unique berry
tawdry escarp
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Man, I just wanted to post something that I though was kinda neat. Didn't mean to bring about a debate

alpine ingot
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first rule of lore chat: eventually everything, even the most asinine thing will become a debate for whatever reason.

wind flicker
vapid tiger
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and they're ultramarine successors

storm jungle
vapid tiger
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a marine who is injured is gonna look like some cyborg hellspawn from mad max regardless

storm jungle
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OH RIGHT

tawdry escarp
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The video about the Dreadnought dying

storm jungle
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To be fair it is good.

That Mike guy just made it weird KEK

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Marine Stans legit ruin everything

vapid tiger
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yeah sometimes people use other people's topics as a springboard to discuss something else

storm jungle
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^

vapid tiger
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like this for example

vapid tiger
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and we should kick dilara

storm jungle
wind flicker
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Its a good thing dilara isnt here

unique berry
vapid tiger
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"i am r/40klore leagues of votann are MARY SUES AAA WHY AREN'T THEY MORE RACIST!?!?!?!?!"

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reddit takes on 40k lore are always a mix of amusing and disturbing

storm jungle
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it happens

unique berry
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Is there a book about the Deathwatch or Black Templars i jist finished my current one

alpine ingot
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I look away for a moment, and I see someone gets sent into solitary confinement

vapid tiger
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just glanced at r/40klore for a split second to verify my claim and

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what the fuck

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there's already someone justifying how super against innovation the mechanicus is as totally reasonable

unique berry
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U gotta love it

vapid tiger
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they're like "yeah any innovation will lead to DAEMONS POPPING OUT"

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WHAT!?!?!?

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SOURCE!?!?!?!

tawdry escarp
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Where's the senator armstrong gif

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damn it, i dont have one

storm jungle
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id suggest looking at the lexicanum

unique berry
storm jungle
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No problem

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at worst literally just use google and go:

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"Warhammer black templar/deathwatch books"

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the top results show some off

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👍

vapid tiger
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THIS MOTHERFUCKER GOT 182 UPVOTES WTF

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I'M THE ONLY ONE TO ASK FOR A SOURCE THAT TECHNOLOGICAL INNOVATION SUMMONS DAEMONS WHILE THE TAU AND ORKS INNOVATE LEFT AND RIGHT

wind flicker
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A single strand of copper wire summons buttfuckums from the warp

vapid tiger
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me when browsing 40k lore reddit

tawdry escarp
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What? Smart brainy-brain make warp anomalies?

slate gate
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Demons can sort of possess AI

tawdry escarp
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What kind of sense does that make?

vapid tiger
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similar to how arch warhammer is not only terrible because he is a terrible person but also makes shit up a lot in his lore videos and doesn't know jack shit

tawdry escarp
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I thought the whole Men of Iron thing was because they learned to hate humans or something

vapid tiger
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yes

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it was literally like skynet

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that's what the writers wrote down

tawdry escarp
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In fact, weren't the Men of Iron all but immune to warp fuckery?

vapid tiger
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mostly yeah because they're machines

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except for that chaos tainted MoI production machine from Gaunt's Ghosts but that was like

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chaos corrupted thousands of years after the rebellion and (MUCH LATER) horus heresy

tawdry escarp
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ah, warp fuckery. My favorite way to describe corruption

#

Hm

#

Do you think that Tzeentch manipulated the programmers of the Men of Iron to make them go Skynet because robots are pretty much immune to direct corruption?

unique berry
vapid tiger
#

i glanced at it for an example and immediately found one

#

of people posting bad headcanon as lore

#

AND GETTING 182 UPVOTES!?!?!?!

#

WHAT THE FUCK

unique berry
#

Reddit.

vapid tiger
#

reddit moment

tawdry escarp
#

stop abusing your poor shift key, krug

#

It's bad for your blood pressure

#

If you die of a heart attack, then the Redditors win

vapid tiger
#

what if instead of all marines being male because "only works on males" it just makes you into a beefcake battle brother regardless of what you were before

#

aka half of all marines being effectively trans men

#

that would be kind of metal actually

real stone
#

It just works

wind flicker
vapid tiger
#

Considering it's HRT plus organ replacement? "Yeah your previous gender is irrelevant you're a transhuman man now"

#

"I didn't ask what was in your pants. You are a BATTLE BROTHER now"

wind flicker
#

Space marines are just organic mechanicus

#

Its not like they get some smallpox vaccines

#

They go through the halo murderkid treatment

tawdry escarp
#

Organicus

lusty lantern
#

Lore nerds!

#

Do old wise Ogryns exist?!?!

#

I wish for a Wholesome Grandpa Ogryn so I must know!!

hushed kayak
rose thorn
#

‘Smash da bad umies… da is my wisdom…’

lusty lantern
#

Heh heh heh~
At least they get retirement~

wind flicker
#

Retirement for rejects is a bullet

lusty lantern
#

We're all gonna die?

#

Anyway?

wind flicker
#

Yeah unless we get super promoted

lusty lantern
#

We really are cannon fodder.

woven sandal
rose thorn
#

Multiple to the head

#

Why does it feel weird that’s their all ogryn regiments

slender orchid
#

They are like the Walmart brand of Space Marine Chapters. "Commissar, can we have the Space Wolves reinforce us?", "No Guardsman, we have an Ogryn Regiment at Base"

alpine ingot
# lusty lantern Do old wise Ogryns exist?!?!

yes, there was an extremely old Ogryn priest in the 2nd book in the Mephiston series, despite how heavily irradiated they were, they had kept their faith and loyalty in the Imperium more soundly then the regular humans still stuck on the world.

lusty lantern
#

Loveable Grandpa Ogryn exist.

lyric ember
#

Ok so cadia itself was destroyed and all

#

But the planets around it were still doing the same thing troop-wise right?

storm jungle
#

Nah

#

the cadian gate was entirely decimated

lyric ember
#

Is agripinaa ok?

storm jungle
#

Dunno, lets ask the wiki

#

oof nvm 💀

barren tapir
#

Agripinaa is still holding, although not without strain on its defences

#

And some dubiously ethical methods

lyric ember
#

wheeze

#

Mechanicus doing dubiously ethical things?

#

Never

storm jungle
#

gonna turn your ass into a door-holder

barren tapir
# lyric ember Mechanicus doing dubiously ethical things?

Kek, ok, you got me with this one... But normally they do those things to their subjects, or xenos, they did that to imperial citizens, which theoretically speaking are protected by the imperial law... Not that many would actually care about the imperial law anyway

lyric ember
#

I saw some meme here a few days ago that was like "imperial inspectors wondering why so many agripinian servitors have purple eyes"

brittle nebula
storm jungle
#

they turned cadian refugees into servitors to save on manpower

barren tapir
storm jungle
#

manpower yes

lyric ember
#

Wasnt there another one who just let all the refugees who didnt let themselves get turned into servitors fucking STARVE to death in space

barren tapir
brittle nebula
#

Yes

storm jungle
lyric ember
#

I think it was something to do with octarius war

#

OH IT'S THE SAME

storm jungle
#

basically they pulled the phoneline thing

#

"Please hold. We'll return to you."

barren tapir
lyric ember
#

Lmao

storm jungle
#

Cadians on ships be like

lyric ember
#

And the best part of all of this

barren tapir
#

Nah

lyric ember
#

The mechanicus believe that they are doing them a favor

brittle nebula
#

They always think that

lyric ember
#

There is no greater honor than to serve the will of the machine god

brittle nebula
#

Will of the Omnissiah and all that

lyric ember
#

Again, forges of mars series is really good about this

barren tapir
#

Agrpinaa didn't left them there to starve, they accepted those who wanted to join their forces, either as skitarii or as servitor, the others simply couldn't be accomodated, but were left free to stick near so to be protected by Ad. Mech. fleet

lyric ember
#

Highly reccomend it

brittle nebula
#

Lol I just realized I am listening to Mechanicus OST while type about the Mechanicus

lyric ember
#

Dance of the cryptek?

brittle nebula
barren tapir
#

Remember also that a forge world is pretty much inhabitable to unaugmented humans

lyric ember
#

True true

barren tapir
#

So agripinaa letting those settlers land would doom them

brittle nebula
lyric ember
#

Dangit

barren tapir
#

And if the meme about all that thing were real then agripinaa would have done that, to get even more servitors

lyric ember
#

All great, dance of the cryptek is underrated though

brittle nebula
#

I throw it in occasionally

barren tapir
#

The cadian diaspora is in no way a pretty thing, but the agrippinaa thing is simply blown out of the water because memes

lyric ember
#

Im surprised they didnt just up and lie

#

"Oh yeah sure come down here"

brittle nebula
#

Wait agrippina? I am not familiar with that name.

lyric ember
#

Supplies cadia

brittle nebula
#

Ah

lyric ember
#

Chaos is really into raiding them

brittle nebula
#

Sounds like a fun planet

lyric ember
#

Their lore isnt the most exciting, supposedly people like them on tabletop

#

I like them

brittle nebula
#

I’ll give them a look. Finding new lore is always fun.

lyric ember
#

Mhm

upbeat saddle
#

this story is so funny

#

'Grizgutz is an Ork Warlord who launched a Waaagh! into the Morloq system. Using warp travel, Grizgutz and his Boyz unwittingly travelled back in time and emerged back into the materium shortly before they departed. A noted kleptomaniac, Grizgutz killed his earlier self so he could have his favorite gun as a spare. However, the resulting confusion caused by this turn of events threw Grizgutz's Waaagh! into disarray'

#

one of my favourite ork stories

brittle nebula
signal hill
#

I can imagine Grizgutz after pocketing that shoota thats pretty much like his own noticing 'that git looked familiar'

lyric ember
#

So, how effective has skitarii weaponry been against space marines? I know that it is heavily dependent on writer but is there like a general consensus?

brittle nebula
#

Answer: Unsure = Further data required [Tests Recommended] Statement: I will begin experiments

lyric ember
#

Suggestion: attempt location of archived data

brittle nebula
#

Gratitude: Searching data archives now

barren tapir
cerulean wagon
#

which is to say effective, except when its a marine book

storm jungle
#

Only good answer ^

heavy pine
#

@lyric ember @brittle nebula

lyric ember
#

No

brittle nebula
heavy pine
lyric ember
#

The souless intelligence is the enemy of all

rose thorn
#

Oh the subject of horny mechanicus

#

Any cannon human x xenos relations

#

Or cross xenos relations

wind flicker
#

Gsc nids x humans

rose thorn
#

That is true but I don’t think the genestealers input is very consenting

wind flicker
#

It can be

storm jungle
#

only romance is usually inter-racial in 40k

rose thorn
#

Smh where’s the tau x eldar

storm jungle
brittle nebula
storm jungle
#

rogue trader ye

rose thorn
#

I still wait for rogue traders to make a full come back in 40K

#

OH WAIT THE VIDEOGAME

barren tapir
rose thorn
#

Wait what

storm jungle
barren tapir
#

A CSM in love with a dark eldar

atomic pelican
#

Yes

#

Thats true

storm jungle
#

What was this again

atomic pelican
#

But

#

Im unsure if its like a romantic love or not

#

Iskhandar Khayon and Neferati

storm jungle
#

Oh that

atomic pelican
#

A scourge merc who works for the Black Legion

rose thorn
storm jungle
#

tbh i forgot those two even existed 💀

storm jungle
#

more just appreciating one and another's company

barren tapir
rose thorn
#

I know but it’s hilarious

storm jungle
#

💀

rose thorn
atomic pelican
#

Def not stockholm since she was there on her own accord originally

#

Before dying and having to be bonded to Khayon

#

To save her

barren tapir
#

Wait, i was referring to the CSM that was tortured by a dark eldar

atomic pelican
#

Also she seems to actually like the company of various members of the Legion

#

Oh

#

Idk abt that one then

storm jungle
#

Where is this from Blank

rose thorn
#

Oh wait she is apart of BL

atomic pelican
#

Yes

rose thorn
#

?

atomic pelican
#

Sort of a honorary member

#

Abaddon says that he likes her

rose thorn
#

HOLY SHIT THATS AMAZING

#

I already love how the blood pact often recruit xenos

brittle nebula
#

Now I’m wondering how much can you do in that Rogue trader that is coming out soon. lul

rose thorn
#

And isn’t fucking ‘GRRRR ANGERJRBSHJE’

storm jungle
#

To be fair it is

#

they are just more coordinated

#

"Go and reeee in that building with hostiles there."

rose thorn
#

Yeah they are actually smart and actually have societies

storm jungle
#

👉

rose thorn
#

Society*

barren tapir
#

It was indeed Nefertari, but with Lyras, not khayon

atomic pelican
#

*‘They are gone.’ Nefertari broke in, still wearing her smile. ‘Their bodies hang in my Aerie if you wish to introduce yourself to them the way you have to others.’

Abaddon snorted in amused resignation. ‘What a wretched little darling you are, alien. And what of Falkus? Where is he, Khayon?’*

#

Telemachon Lyras?

#

He never tortured her

#

SHE tortured him LMAO

#

Her and Khayon

barren tapir
#

Afterwards aboard the Thousand Sons vessel Tlaloc, Lyras was healed by the Dark Eldar captive of Khayon, Nefertari, who he quickly fell in love with despite Khayon's plans to use her to torture him viciously.

atomic pelican
#

Yeee

#

Telemachon has a crush on her

barren tapir
atomic pelican
#

Oh sorru misread

#

But yeah

#

I dont agree with the 'captive' though, its states thoroughly that Neferati escaped to the Eye to avoid other deldar who wanted to kill her

storm jungle
#

Big brain move

barren tapir
#

And i mean, he fell in love with her, but it is arguable that she kinda reciprocated, in a probably extremely wicked way in perfect dark eldar style

atomic pelican
#

Though, they do lock her in a elevator shaft when she gets too violent LMAO

storm jungle
#

so, relatable

atomic pelican
#

Infact, when the Drukhari do eventually catch her, the Black Legion attacks them in vengeance

barren tapir
#

If that is not a romance in WH40K i don't know what it is

rose thorn
#

Why exactly is she aiding BL anyhow?

barren tapir
# rose thorn Or cross xenos relations

Regarding in this i think i remember something exist, but cannot recover the memory fully... Don't remember if it is about eldar with humans or tau with something...

storm jungle
#

Cant be eldar with humans

#

id remember that

atomic pelican
storm jungle
#

any again, inter-racial romance in 40k is non-existant

atomic pelican
#

She doesnt rlly care abt the Legion's goals, moreso shes just already there and has made friends

barren tapir
rose thorn
#

I love that so much

storm jungle
#

Exodites have no lore

#

LMAO

#

so a lot

rose thorn
#

I think I really just like chaos and xenos working together

storm jungle
#

literally half of the exodite lore is from like

#

rogue trader

#

or the Path books

#

and thats just in a single chapter from 3 books

rose thorn
#

Like, with imperium with xenos, 90% of the time humanity will just fucking nuke them after they work together

storm jungle
#

Yeah but so will chaos

rose thorn
#

With chaos is a solid 85% chance

storm jungle
#

they are also massively xenophobic

#

but yeah rarely

wind flicker
#

Source: me

storm jungle
barren tapir
#

CSM might hate the imperium, but that doesn't mean they are less xenophobic... They psindoctrination still is extremely anti xenos, and still work perfectly well lol

wind flicker
#

Magnus getting his back blown out is canon

atomic pelican
#

CSM have like, a somewhat higher chance of not being xenophobic since theyve already shown disdain for their old hypno indoctrination. +They may be forced into working with xenos via neccesity

#

Lheorvine has to get over his indoctrination through interacting with Neferati

storm jungle
#

the new chaos codex also confirms the Red Corsairs hire xenos as mercs but only temporarily and from a cannon-fodder perspective

odd sparrow
#

nice runes dil

#

ingwaz is a good one

storm jungle
rose thorn
#

What do CSM think of chaos worshiping xenos anyhow?

storm jungle
#

Nothing

#

they'll still kill them

rose thorn
#

Not counting pre HH

storm jungle
#

LMAO

#

or again, use them as cannon fodder

rose thorn
#

That seems a bit counter productive

atomic pelican
#

That or like, cannon fodder like usual cultists

storm jungle
#

CSM dont care about anyone, including themselves

rose thorn
#

Not the cannon fodder part

#

That makes sense

atomic pelican
#

Depends on the CSM tbh

rose thorn
storm jungle
#

Being a part of chaos is basically playing Mafia City IRL.

barren tapir
#

Word bearers work very well with chaos worshipping xenos, that doesn't mean they keep in high regard

rose thorn
#

Oh WB like chaos xenos?

atomic pelican
#

Must remember that CSM are allowed to have personalities and their own views rather tham being chapter stereotypes(wolfwolfwolf)

autumn panther
rose thorn
#

I would expected they are the most xenophobic

storm jungle
barren tapir
autumn panther
#

Its true

wind flicker
rose thorn
autumn panther
#

LVL1 git
LVL100 warboss

wind flicker
#

Ork city

#

😳

rose thorn
#

LVL1 genestealer cultist
LVL100 Hive Mind

storm jungle
#

LVL99 Reclamation Pool Sludge

rose thorn
#

Pfff

wind flicker
#

Level 99 arbites

rose thorn
#

ShAme most of the smaller chaos warband’s lore fucking blows

#

At least from the 8edition codex

atomic pelican
#

Speaking of, rip custom traits

#

Suppose it makes sense considering each Legion has Mondo Rules

rose thorn
#

Mondo rules?

#

I haven’t gotten the new codex yet

#

Is it like, each legion has multiple rule sets you can use or something?

atomic pelican
#

Every Legion has its own set of strats and relics and wl traits

rose thorn
#

AHhhh

atomic pelican
#

Which is Alot

rose thorn
#

Nice, nice

atomic pelican
#

I believe CSM have the biggest strat card deck now

rose thorn
#

I’ll probably google EC’s and see if I want to wait til 10ed and just make a different legion

#

Which would be 5ish years I guess

#

Meh too late to turn back now

#

GAPS! Maybe they got new lore

#

Okay just checked goon hammer and I love them

rose thorn
#

AHAHAH FUCKING LUCIUS HOLY SHIT

plush mason
#

i wonder if the tech priests ever just switch to tech lingus to cuss non admech out

storm jungle
#

GUYS

#

ITS STARCRAFT TIME

#

Selected from the most accomplished fighters in a Kinhold, the Einhyr Hearthguard have many roles – from bodyguards to deadly first-strike troops. Each Hearthguard has proved themselves over many years of front-line combat, ascending purely by the virtue of their deeds, just as the staunch meritocracy of the Leagues requires.

Like Hearthkyn Warriors, Hearthguard are dependable fighters, but their experience and inch-thick battle plating take the Kins’ natural durability to a whole new level. Crack units of Einhyr Hearthguard can be trusted to hold the line and inspire their fellows to stand firm even in the face of untold horrors.

#

They aren’t all take and no give, either. Each Einhyr is equipped with a Volkanite Disintegrator and a shoulder-mounted grenade launcher, laying down a solid curtain of fire as they advance. Once the Einhyr Hearthguard join the melee, they’re just as formidable, lashing out with devastating concussion gauntlets.

These marvels use ancient technologies to increase the mass of a warrior’s fist as they swing, turning an already burly uppercut into an earth-shattering blow that can lift a hulking Ork right off their feet. Those who prefer the deftness of a sword over the raw power of their gauntlets can fit a thrumming plasma blade to their wrist, perfect for slicing and dicing the galaxy’s less damage resistant dangers.

shadow plover
#

HEFTY FELLOWS

storm jungle
tender igloo
#

I see starcraft marines so much. I am all for it

shadow plover
#

starcraft, but cool this time around

#

they do have the resemblance of the old egg squats as well

storm jungle
#

look at that GUT

final spruce
#

But yeah, looks a lot like starcraft

storm jungle
cunning wigeon
#

one of my friends said they look like a massively scaled down gypsy danger lul

storm jungle
#

LMAO

#

oh my god

#

it does

cunning wigeon
#

blade arm and everything

icy pagoda
#

lmao that's amazing

modest knot
#

Gee whiz those marines look kinda space mariney don’t they

storm jungle
#

Yeah its almost like the Space Marine design is uninspired as shit or something

#

👀

#

very sus amongus

shadow plover
#

I will fight to the death arguing against that

modest knot
#

Y’know, those gauss rifles are fucking huge, all for 6 damage

final spruce
#

6 damage is pretty ludicrous

tender igloo
storm jungle
#

and then 40k ripped off star craft finally

final spruce
#

Of course, Starcraft ended up making money afterall

#

To the point they made DoW3 after looking at SC2

cunning wigeon
#

almost like originality is an increasingly rare attribute in an age where it is almost impossible not to consume tonnes of different media

final spruce
#

Why does GW not udnerstand that trying to copy Blizzard will always end up terrible

modest knot
#

Because it’s GW

cunning wigeon
#

its not a gw exclusive thing to want a piece of someone elses cake

#

youd be hard pressed to find companies that dont want a little bit of anothers success

tender igloo
#

Just look at all the live service games that came out in response to how successful they THOUGHT destiny was going to be.

cunning wigeon
#

yeah

#

but even non-games companies are the same

modest knot
#

I’m honestly sad at how much wasted potential there is in 40k games

#

Like there’s so much they could do

cunning wigeon
#

without disclosing anything important I can tell you that certain telecommunications companies all want each others main audience

cunning wigeon
#

or warhammer as a whole for that matter

#

and there isnt always going to be an overlap between someone that likes a table top strategy game and some other video game of a different genre with the same setting

modest knot
#

True but I feel like a lot of people are more knowledgeable about 40k, like you show them an astartes and they’ll probably say they recognize it

cerulean wagon
#

40k is a little more popular of recent, mostly in part i feel due to vermintide and total war warhammer

cunning wigeon
#

but that doesnt mean theyd play a 40k game

cerulean wagon
#

its still a background thing, but i can see DT making warhammer a whole lot more popular

cunning wigeon
#

oh yeah absolutely

#

new audiences and what not

#

but it feels like most people want a 40k game that is good

modest knot
#

I mean I’d never play tabletop, mainly for the price but also because I don’t have the delicate hands of that dude from Toy Story who fixed up Woody to paint them lol

cunning wigeon
#

when the problem is it would have to be a good game that is set in 40k

plush mason
tawdry escarp
#

DT is going to be alot of new people's starting point into 40k

#

Like Space Marine was for me and alot of other people

vapid tiger
#

aka a halo gravity hammer

vapid tiger
barren tapir
#

Very intrigued by the Votann tech... I was expecting something different, instead they went with bolters, ion weapons and volkites...
Also, i'm waiting for a cawl ex machina moment where it is stated that his neo volkite pistol is based on Votann tech that only him managed to comprehend and reproduce lol

cunning wigeon
#

As long as it is accompanied by a picture of an enlarged head, giga brain cawl id be fine with it

smoky mauve
modest knot
#

What’s funny is siege tanks would go well with the votann if they’re going for the typical slow but tanky dwarf theme

smoky mauve
#

NGL though, those wrist blades give off a good vibe. Like the ones from Republic commando

supple plume
#

im having a starcraft vibe here

vapid tiger
#

Horus heresy novel hardcore fans b like "batman v superman is a good movie restore the snyderverse!" in terms of overall energy

wind flicker
#

True and brave

upbeat saddle
hushed kayak
signal hill
#

The fuck is that posing?

brittle nebula
#

Yes

smoky mauve
#

Its a Maori War dance, usually representing aa tripes strength and unity.

frail rune
#

Someone tell me the most disturbing 40K facts

brittle nebula
#

It’s owned by GW

frail rune
#

😱

final spruce
#

The lore adapts itself to the tabletop and not otherwise

twin shoal
storm jungle
#

inb4 someone unoriginally mentions the Daemkebabula

twin shoal
storm jungle
#

LMFAO

frail rune
twin shoal
#

the daemonculaba

storm jungle
#

People repeat this thing to death saying "OH ITS THE MOST GRIMDARK THING" when its just cheap torture-porn

twin shoal
#

not even good torture porn ether

brittle nebula
#

I found that when I was 10

twin shoal
final spruce
twin shoal
#

its boring trite and just plain gross for no reason

#

and i want to let the record state im not into it ether its just the shit ive seen on the internet would probably turn the writer of the daemonculaba inside out

rocky dune
#

How high on the list is the whole “inhumanity to spare” bit, with the mechanicus?

frail rune
storm jungle
#

Yeah thats the truth tbh

#

people overplay it a bit too much

wind flicker
#

Day 0 of mentioning daemonculaba

storm jungle
#

the Magos from Mechanicus acts with cold logic but says that he will keep his human emotions in storage when common sense and human decision making is needed instead of cold mathematical logic

#

this is what he looks like

final spruce
#

In the same game, you also have the Tech-priest managing the skitarii that cares for them aswell

frail rune
#

The Dark Mechanicus probably do Moulder Clan-Levels of unethical experiments

#

Probably on par with Drukhari torture

wind flicker
#

I wonder if mechanicus sleep on beds of mechadendrites

frail rune
final spruce
#

They do

wind flicker
#

Very few admech are literal machines

final spruce
#

But at the same time, its an opportunity to give them VR training during their sleep

#

If we go by the books & the game

frail rune
#

I generally come to the conclusion that anything cybernetically enhanced are pumped full of stimuli that negates fatigue

#

But that is mostly me not knowing 40K as much

final spruce
#

You can ignore them, but keep in mind admech are all about calculation and efficiency

wind flicker
#

Yeah but that wears off and builds up a tolerance

final spruce
#

a tired body is an unresponsive and poorly efficient one for tasks

barren tapir
final spruce
#

Believe it was in the 9th edition codex

barren tapir
#

Aaaahhh, the one that i still haven't managed to get my hands on dammit

final spruce
#

Im pretty sure I could purvey the goods

#

Unofficially ofc

twin shoal
final spruce
#

You'll find a decent bunch here

#

I know atleast 3 people here that dmed it, including me

twin shoal
#

i have never EVER played it

#

but i would like to

barren tapir
#

Same

frail rune
twin shoal
#

i wanna play the inquisitor i made in that online character creator

barren tapir
#

I mostly get the books, read the rules until i memorize them and then wait for eternity to find someone to play... Which never arrive since it is nearly unknown here warhammer

twin shoal
#

i cant even memorize the book contents due to learning disabilities

crisp heath
rose thorn
#

i dont know raven guard at all

#

but this guy is kinda cute tbh

plush mason
#

thats their chapter master iirc

#

so he has to be the most emo of the lot

rose thorn
#

lmao

shadow plover
#

imagine having a teenage boy as your chapter master

rose thorn
#

OOOO i like the ravens guard kinda voodoo feathers and bird claws and crap

rose thorn
shadow plover
#

oh no

rose thorn
#

I also really like beaky mairnes

Whats the catch

plush mason
#

great now i will never be able to get that out of my head lol

rose thorn
#

whats the dogshit lore

twin shoal
#

say his name

rose thorn
#

WAIT NOOO

twin shoal
#

its already done

rose thorn
twin shoal
#

you made an actual reference to jojo

rose thorn
#

before i get attached to raven guard, whats the dogshit part about them

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i know 40k lore enough there is

A catch

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for anything i like

plush mason
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that they are emo beyond that nothing

rose thorn
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no, wolves?

shadow plover
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suppose the catch is that they're pretty non existent in the lore mostly

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rarely see them anywhere

rose thorn
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no, ulty bulty bullshit?

twin shoal
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no real skeletons in the ravenguards closet

plush mason
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yeah

rose thorn
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sad days but

plush mason
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they are kind of a foot note chapter

shadow plover
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well their primarch is in the warp doing warpy things

rose thorn
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yeah which i know a shit laod about and is fucking awesome

plush mason
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and may or may not be a giant murder bird demon

rose thorn
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loyalist Daemon(TM) primarch

plush mason
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^

rose thorn
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so how does their stealth differ from alpha legion so to say

plush mason
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none of that weird camo that makes them look like other legions/chapters

rose thorn
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do they do that mass poisoning shit or anything?

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i know they fly alot

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but they are birds

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OH HERES THE MY DECIDING QUESTION

What is their politics with the imperium, are they like lapdoggy or more free thinking

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okay yeah they are cool

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they drew alot from tribes on a lot of planetsd

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so the legions cultures reflect that

twin shoal
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dark angels are the blokes with the hoods and dark green color scheme right?

storm jungle
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Yep

twin shoal
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i like those guys purely due to the fact you have the massive bloke in big armor

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and a cloth hood

plush mason
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dont some black templars also do that?

twin shoal
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if they do id love to see the artwork

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cus i like black templars

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baldimort sold me on them

plush mason
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yeah no hoods but lots of robes

storm jungle
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Yeah Templars go for, well

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the templar look lol

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Angels are usually full body/shoulder/head robes

rose thorn
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oh yeah got sick ass hoods

remote vortex
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Templars do a lot of the old World Eaters traditions of chaining their weapons to themselves and favoring melee.
their trappings are usually tabards and the like.

remote vortex
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man things in the Imperium Nihilus aren’t looking great, as Chaos is basically doing land grabs almost uncontested. Even with Haarken Worldclaimer being extremely busy with the Nachmund Gauntlet.
a host of thousands of vessels just wrecking the Imperium in the sector.

and he captured one of the admirals, so the Sanctus Wall may not do as well as they hope

errant pike
remote vortex
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Yep.

strong holly
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AoS is a series of daemon worlds in the eye of terror . Discuss

vapid tiger
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negative

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aos goes into its cosmology and it literally cannot fit into 40k

storm jungle
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Yeah as Krug said, doesnt work chief.

unique berry
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The Black Templars are by far the best successor of any orginal Legion/Chapter.

remote vortex
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Nah dont work

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AoS is high fantasy, and closer to planescape

final spruce
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Atleast they solved some part of the BT's hate for psykers

serene jungle
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Wait, BT?

vapid tiger
final spruce
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Black Templars

serene jungle
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Oh, right, but also they did?

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So they aren't super duper anti psykers now? FullTie

vapid tiger
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No they just respect astropaths and navigators

final spruce
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Yeah, now they actually have a lot of respect for Navigator, atropaths and sanctionned psykers

serene jungle
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That seems reasonable

final spruce
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And they hope for the day the Emperor will bless em again with librarians

serene jungle
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How else will they even carry on their not-approved-codex-astartes crusades?

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Always seemed dumb to me

final spruce
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They still hate witches mutants etc that didn't change

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But now they actually have respect for psykers that got the Emperor's touch

unique berry
final spruce
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9th edition codex and GW trying to fix the grimdark

vapid tiger
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literally just deus vult meme marines

vapid tiger
final spruce
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Well yes

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Why do you think they summoned Gulliman and have him trying to fix the memeperium ?

serene jungle
final spruce
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And that the Cicatrix suddenly has no repercussions anymore

unique berry
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What do u mean fix the grimdark

final spruce
unique berry
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Sry didn't saw it

final spruce
vapid tiger
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You make the Imperium idealistic good guys and you effectively turn 40k into a far-right fever dream

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And more importantly an uninteresting one

unique berry
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🤨

final spruce
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It's simple, by diluting the Grimdark, they are trying to make it more accessible for the wider audience and increase their sales

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Which is also the reason they changed their logo

serene jungle
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and the cartoons

vapid tiger
final spruce
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True, but you can't deny that the aesthetics have been cleaned up

storm jungle
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Its why you dont see Space Marines ripping the spine out of rebels that want to stop imperial oppression on their planet in an IRL storefront lul