#40k-lore-chat

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distant parcel
barren tapir
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Nah, you just stated wrong stuff

shadow plover
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the designer himself has said it was a space marine so your debunk has been debunked

fierce pendant
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Them Captain's making friends already

barren tapir
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Lol, not even close

fierce pendant
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nice to see community interact

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kekw

barren tapir
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Sob are way later

shadow plover
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and this guy is crying about the 40k community when he's acting like this lul

distant parcel
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how long until everyone is blocked and hes talking to himself

barren tapir
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And were made to kinda fix the hole left by no female SM

storm jungle
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I mean yeah

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what is the company gonna do

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they dont give a shit lol

shadow plover
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so you just take the parts as fact that you care about

rocky dune
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What is even being argued over right now

storm jungle
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what

rocky dune
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I feel like the topic is shifted

distant parcel
shadow plover
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it's called touch some grass I beg your pardon

barren tapir
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@supple viper, do you know Arch?

mortal lance
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I like my good boy points from reddit weirdos

distant parcel
fierce pendant
shadow plover
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this mememachine is the funniest part I've seen in this server for a while

fierce pendant
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ain't that the truth

distant parcel
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we like getting pets

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of 40k weirdos

storm jungle
distant parcel
barren tapir
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No one is coping about it, we know very well it, and also the causes of it

shadow plover
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funny coming from you lul

crisp heath
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I think female space marines wouldnt work tbh

fierce pendant
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you keep on saying we're the ones projecting

storm jungle
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It's not really the same thing.

fierce pendant
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look at yourself lol

rocky dune
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You just randomly brought it up

storm jungle
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what?

fierce pendant
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Yo he blocked me as well KEK

distant parcel
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you can test it by trying to add an emoji reaction to one of his messages

fierce pendant
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yup

distant parcel
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man is determined to be an echo chamber of literally a single person

fierce pendant
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p much

shell pebble
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Honestly I don't see why anyone fuckin' cares about female space marines. You wanna have them and are a tabletop player? Just paint yours and say they're women. You don't? Whatever, move on.

I find SoB more badass than space marines anyway but it's whatever at the end of the day.

distant parcel
storm jungle
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Yeah this too

shadow plover
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sob isn't the face of the universe

storm jungle
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^

crisp heath
rocky dune
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This went from an argument about bolter recoil to whatever the hell is going on right now

crisp heath
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simple as

distant parcel
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lmao its 40k

storm jungle
distant parcel
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everything is dumb

storm jungle
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explain please

shell pebble
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40k is very silly

distant parcel
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just say women evolved to be big muscle mommies

crisp heath
storm jungle
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so

storm jungle
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no reason

barren tapir
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Also, i would like to state that there is no lore that contraddict female custodes

storm jungle
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Yeah its just for marketing really

distant parcel
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there really isnt any reason not to do it given how insanely flexible and campy and ridiculous 40k is

crisp heath
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They have the sisters of silence

storm jungle
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Not the same thing

distant parcel
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who is they

storm jungle
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again

distant parcel
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lol

storm jungle
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lmao

barren tapir
distant parcel
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you dont have to collect models of only the same gender as you lmao

shadow plover
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"we've perfected the human genome and can create super soldiers but the female chromosome scares me"

rocky dune
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I’m fine with no female space marines, because all of the geneseed is based off of male primarchs. I think female SM are possible, they just aren’t as stable without more effort to do it, combined with lots of tradition

barren tapir
rocky dune
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Should be female custodes tho

storm jungle
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also this

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Like, I get that you want to jump through lore hoops to explain why female SM's dont exist, but at the end of the day its 40k and it doesnt matter

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lore is a marketing tool

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anything GW says goes

barren tapir
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10 years already into warhammer, both fantasy and 40K

storm jungle
rocky dune
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It’s out of lore reasons, just marketing

distant parcel
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the only reason has traditionally been marketing to a tight demographic and some nice sexism

fierce pendant
storm jungle
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40k had its genesis in the 80's

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aka an era of machoism

shadow plover
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lore has been changed countless times to fit different more modern ideas

rocky dune
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People don’t want to over write like 30 years of lore or whatever

crisp heath
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Dudes are crying for female space marines to jerk off to

barren tapir
storm jungle
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Okay so?

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literally nothing

distant parcel
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bro just delete 3 words

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lmao

storm jungle
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^

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literally just

shadow plover
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everyone here has seen that already

storm jungle
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"only guys can be it because science"

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and yeah we have

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Welcome to 40k lore then KEK

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if you are that annoyed you can leave my dude

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we arent really asking for your input

shell pebble
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Tbf it kind of doesn't. Lore in 40k gets contradicted alot so why couldn't this?

barren tapir
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That goes against the will of the omnissaiah

shadow plover
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and that's like 10 years old paragraph just copypasted for the new core book without re visiting any of the things written for those books

storm jungle
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Okay so

rocky dune
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Ok I’m out

storm jungle
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sisters of battle get horrically ondictrinated

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and tortured too

distant parcel
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we've reached the point of a ban worthy sentence

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only took what

storm jungle
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lmao

distant parcel
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15 minutes

fierce pendant
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man didn't even read your full response lara and posted cope gif

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And he says we're the ones projecting

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LMAO

distant parcel
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<@&735928989146939404> we got one

mortal lance
distant parcel
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nah

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they go much faster normally

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most escalate to extreme shit in the first 5 messages

barren tapir
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The fastest was like half a minute in the server

storm jungle
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Guess ill go make tea 😔

barren tapir
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Like third sentence and was ban

storm jungle
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legit need one, im thirsty

shadow plover
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I've gotta got pick up my Age of Darkness boxset

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fun's over 😔

distant parcel
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MODS

barren tapir
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Hol on... Did the captain left or got booted?

distant parcel
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what dont we pay you for

barren tapir
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And if booted by who?

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Time to increase the counter!

shadow plover
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messages weren't deleted so probably just left?

storm jungle
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Nah he left i think

shell pebble
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Wait sorry what word did he use?

fierce pendant
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Lmao got so mad he left

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lul

storm jungle
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LMAO yeah

fierce pendant
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cope indeed

storm jungle
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he semed chill before

distant parcel
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just a super transphobic post

fierce pendant
storm jungle
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the moment we mentioned women the guy went ballistic

barren tapir
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Guess we were too entitled to be 40K players

distant parcel
shell pebble
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Sh

storm jungle
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LMAO yeah

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like

shell pebble
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Ah*

distant parcel
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big oof

storm jungle
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OH MY GOD

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I DIDNT EVEN NOTICE

fierce pendant
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KEK

storm jungle
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HOW THATS LITERALLY TRANSPHOBIC

distant parcel
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you DIDNT?

storm jungle
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I THOUGHT HE MEANT MARINES

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DFSKDFSKJFDSK

fierce pendant
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NO

distant parcel
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lmao

storm jungle
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BRUH MOMENT

shell pebble
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I didn't realize either bruh

distant parcel
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no he was talking directly to you :DDD

fierce pendant
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I was wondering why you were so chill Lara

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so you just didn't see

storm jungle
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yeah im at work so my brain is on autopilot

distant parcel
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40k lore chat so must be lore

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checks out

barren tapir
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Da hell Dil?

storm jungle
barren tapir
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You are working?

storm jungle
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Yeah

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i got a job at the office lmao

barren tapir
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How the hell did you managed to be so present

storm jungle
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these excel sheets are burning my eyes 💀

storm jungle
barren tapir
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Oh

distant parcel
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based spend your paid time talking to salty 40k weirdos

barren tapir
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Praised be tea

cunning wigeon
barren tapir
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Bringer of time break and best drink

storm jungle
shadow plover
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next time someone starts ree'ing about le females I'll just ask rightaway if they're a transphobe

barren tapir
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I asked him if he knew Arch, but didn't answered

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Must have been a old banned person

fierce pendant
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probs

cunning wigeon
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'Why do you want female space marines? we gave you women an equal representation faction"

storm jungle
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Lmfao

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I also love the hoops people jump through to explain their absence

shell pebble
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You women

storm jungle
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its literally just to not piss off the chud playerbase

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ITS NOT THAT COMPLEX

distant parcel
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it only takes 30 google image results to see the first woman searching "warhammer 40k"

barren tapir
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I mean, he sticked to old lore so much that was probably one that missed the point of its origin

cunning wigeon
barren tapir
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Which if even more funny when he was complaining about people missing the point of starship trooper

distant parcel
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gw would just use it as a way to sell more minis tbh

fierce pendant
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And blocking anyone that disagreed with him

storm jungle
crisp heath
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Its funny how mad people get when I say female space marines are dumb and I don't elaborate on the subject

storm jungle
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I mean

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we arent mad

cunning wigeon
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tbh he seemed pretty fragile, like when he couldnt think of anything to back himself up he just people were "simply wrong"

storm jungle
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we are just memeing on you since you cant defend your point

distant parcel
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^

storm jungle
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post any gigachad gifs if you want tho

crisp heath
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I will

storm jungle
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Noice.

fierce pendant
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cope gifs spam

storm jungle
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but yeah

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i told Gawain

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hopefully he gets banned later

cunning wigeon
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maybe a couple seethes?

fierce pendant
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and just a pinch of mald

distant parcel
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i think he already left

cunning wigeon
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if youre feeling adventurous

storm jungle
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Yeah he has

crisp heath
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I love Chaos maxxing

storm jungle
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you can ban people that still left i think

mortal lance
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Ya

storm jungle
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yee

cunning wigeon
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possibly throw out a didnt ask or two

distant parcel
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yeah but next time will probably just with another new account lel

barren tapir
fierce pendant
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even if he comes back its the matter of bringing up the same topic again KEK

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and my man will go ballistic

distant parcel
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i wonder how many times on how many accounts he has been banned on this discord already

mortal lance
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He's going to make a YouTube type apology

storm jungle
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My favorite part was how he got so hostile for no reason over a bolter chat of all things.

barren tapir
storm jungle
distant parcel
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good gif

storm jungle
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bows

barren tapir
shadow plover
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The most hilarious thing was him complaining about the 40k community

crisp heath
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I just make fun of space marine simps

fierce pendant
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based

distant parcel
barren tapir
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Like, talking with me and Skele about bolters...

storm jungle
fierce pendant
storm jungle
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Meanwhile, I was into 40k lore when women werent even allowed to pilot Knights 💀

cunning wigeon
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"NO! my imaginary gun can only be used by my favourite people! someone else cant just use the same one! thats heresy!"

distant parcel
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i saw they are promoting this new horus heresy game and was like "so.. its JUST marines" why the fuck

barren tapir
shadow plover
storm jungle
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careful

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you'll summon him

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i can only take so many "mortal"s

fierce pendant
barren tapir
mortal lance
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Say his name three times

barren tapir
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Not a independent faction

mortal lance
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And he shows up

cunning wigeon
distant parcel
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oh NO

barren tapir
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It reminded me of the guy who entered the server, started being racist and went "we are all 40K fans here right?

distant parcel
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hahaha

distant parcel
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theyre always so surprised that 40k doesnt mean a safe space for every -ism under the sun

cunning wigeon
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b-b-but my imperium is fascist so that means I can be

barren tapir
distant parcel
storm jungle
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That guy comparing Rhodesia to the Tau is gonna haunt me forever

cunning wigeon
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haAHAHAHAHAHAH

barren tapir
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I still haven't managed to understand how they hell they can think that discriminate is fine if they are the ones doing it, but the moment they are the discriminated one they cry without stop

storm jungle
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People suck.

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it is how it is sometimes

viral haven
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Because they are insecure cry babies

cunning wigeon
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swigidywoo mfw when Rhodesia

barren tapir
# storm jungle it is how it is sometimes

Yeah, i i simply cannot understand how they can "reason"... Like, they clearly think they are in the right, but how the fuck cannot you see such a plain contraddiction

crisp heath
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You just have to accept people think differently

cunning wigeon
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god reminds me of how a new friend I know actually likes 40k, I didnt really know this until I made a comment about this server and mentioned all the imperium fanboy chuds and he was like "wdym". I explained the people saying shit like the imperium is doing its best or its the best hope for humanity and he just agreed with them the entire time, was kinda surreal

distant parcel
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i mean the imperium probably is humanities best chance at survival in the 40k universe

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its just really fucking dumb and fascist

barren tapir
cunning wigeon
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like all the fascism just feeds into chaos and the stupidity makes the nids job a cake walk

distant parcel
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i mean theyre doing ok so far i guess

cunning wigeon
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but they've been on the back foot this entire time

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there are genestealers on terra

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most of chaos' ranks are humans

viral haven
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Can't wait for the 40k equivalent of Age of Sigmar

distant parcel
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if every human system had to fight independantly for itself it would all crumble, imperium is dogshit but at least its mostly managed to keep all the humans on the same "side"

viral haven
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Where they throw everything out the window and reboot

crisp heath
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Imperium is the only hope for humanity if they change their ways they are likely to die

cunning wigeon
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most factions stay true to their Whfb selves

distant parcel
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imperium is set up in a way that its self sustainingly terrible, any attempted changing force just gets exterminatused before it can get going

storm jungle
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The Imperium's eventual fate is to also die tho

cunning wigeon
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but it isnt sustainable

storm jungle
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it just hasnt because toy sales

cunning wigeon
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it is dying

storm jungle
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yeah that as well

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yep

distant parcel
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its not sustainable

cunning wigeon
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huh

distant parcel
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its probably the best shot humans as a whole have to slow their inevitable doom tho

storm jungle
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Ehhhh

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arguable

distant parcel
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yeah probably

cunning wigeon
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even if that was truew

crisp heath
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Humanity rather die fighting then to bend over

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pretty chad

viral haven
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Bend over

distant parcel
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but i dont see the main imperium structure literlly ever being able to change

cunning wigeon
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it is only because the imperium has taken out any valid opposition

storm jungle
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I mean

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they are already bending over with the Great Rift KEK

viral haven
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Yes

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Slaanesh having a field day

cunning wigeon
crisp heath
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with more bodies

storm jungle
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Yeah

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humanity feeds chaos the most

cunning wigeon
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seems like they're getting bent over pretty hard to me

storm jungle
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and offers it its biggest champions

crisp heath
storm jungle
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LMAO

distant parcel
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10th edition rulebook will be 5 pages long, chaos rift got really big and consumed the whole galaxy then burped afterwards

cunning wigeon
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whether by chaos or the imperium humanity is enslaved

storm jungle
crisp heath
storm jungle
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Yeah we do

crisp heath
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What

storm jungle
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lobotimization

crisp heath
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Lol

storm jungle
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and uh

cunning wigeon
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no, the imperium killed all the better ones lmao

storm jungle
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firing squads

viral haven
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Easiest tip to not suffer in the 40k universe: don't exist at all

storm jungle
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or uh

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dying in trenches

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or uh

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getting stabbed by rebel humans

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or uh

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dying any other horrific way

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the Imperium doesnt care about anyone lmao

barren tapir
storm jungle
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especially its own populace

cunning wigeon
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my point was just that for most of the human species in 40k there is "no die fighting" it's as you would put it "get bent over"

crisp heath
storm jungle
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yeah sure looks like it

crisp heath
storm jungle
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Cant wait for me and my kids to get stapled to a floating parade platform because I wanted to steal some food to feed my starving family

cunning wigeon
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being worked to death in a factory, slaughtered by arbites for demanding better conditions, subverted by genestealers, tortured by drukhari, enslaved by chaos, or even just straight up being lobotomised for misdemeanors humans almost never get the option to die fighting

shell pebble
barren tapir
storm jungle
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yeah a large portion of the Imperium's populace is just slave labour

crisp heath
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Muh liberty like bruh we are fighting against literal gods

storm jungle
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I mean

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you say this now

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you'd beg for your life if you were in that situation

cunning wigeon
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and the enslavement and poor conditions only further those gods

storm jungle
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its easy to act tough until you are faced with it

crisp heath
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Dude the Chaos gods dont care either

cunning wigeon
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they feed off negative feelings

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so humanity being one giant pile of them only helps the chaos gods

viral haven
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The clown chat

cunning wigeon
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🤡

storm jungle
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wait a minute-

barren tapir
cunning wigeon
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damn humanity is really zealous and obsessed with perpetuating the imperial truth

barren tapir
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We had examples of societies that were doing super fine until the imperium arrived

cunning wigeon
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sure do hope there isn't a chaos god who loves obsession

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man the imperium is really stagnant and hates change

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sure do hope there isnt a chaos god who feeds off of cycles and things staying the same

barren tapir
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The imperium is simply the worst option humanity has... It is true that it try to prolong its life though, and that mean trying to not kill humans all by itself, although it is doing a fucking good job at trying

cunning wigeon
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man humans do love scheming for power

crisp heath
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Imperium is the only option

storm jungle
cunning wigeon
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sure do hope there isnt a chaos god who feeds off of scheming and backstabbing

barren tapir
cunning wigeon
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man humans sure do love fighting in bloody conflicts

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sure do hope there isnt a chaos god who feeds off of fury and bloodshed

crisp heath
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What is the other option

viral haven
cunning wigeon
shell pebble
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There's the Tau Empire style of way of running things

barren tapir
crisp heath
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Well they are gone now so what is else

storm jungle
cunning wigeon
barren tapir
viral haven
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Tau cringe, farsight enclave though

crisp heath
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Dwarfs are chad so maybe

cunning wigeon
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oh nvm

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one of those people

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gotcha

storm jungle
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Votann do a little bit of trolling

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🪨

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some rock and stoning if you will

cunning wigeon
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inb4 where stone

barren tapir
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Also we have clear examples that in some places the situation is better and go way better than the imperium standard

viral haven
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I think I missed the shit about Votanns

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Haven't followed the new stuff in a while

barren tapir
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We have examples of democracy on necromunda, although a slightly twisted one

crisp heath
barren tapir
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We know that people started uprising for progress and democracy

cunning wigeon
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there really isnt much point in continuing the subject Silver, no progress will be made

barren tapir
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But also admit that he couldn't make all the changes he wanted

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I mean, the imperium is so fucked up that it gave big G depression

storm jungle
# viral haven Haven't followed the new stuff in a while

Not yet atm.

Right now they are getting lore drops through warhammer community. Last week we saw what their regular squads look like so they are drip feeding info at the moment, we'll probably get something proper when they get their codex

viral haven
crisp heath
storm jungle
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Yeee

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they are basically new space dwarves

viral haven
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Ah, could be interesting

storm jungle
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Ye its gradual atm so we'll see

barren tapir
crisp heath
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Fr Lol

barren tapir
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But that would also mean civil war

viral haven
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So I will not be able to play, as I left the shit show that was my local 40k group lol

storm jungle
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Lmao oof

crisp heath
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I think Lionel could help a lot

barren tapir
crisp heath
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As he should

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Thats the worst part of the Imperium

barren tapir
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Remember, even russ was more cool headed than the lion on some topics

viral haven
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We obviously need loyalist angron, he would be a good politician

barren tapir
crisp heath
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They need a strong leader like Lion

cunning wigeon
viral haven
barren tapir
viral haven
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Yes

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What do you mean it's OP to have a full squad of max level reapers that are always concealed

barren tapir
cunning wigeon
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was just throwing in the pathetic part

viral haven
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I also liked the Templars though

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Funny melee boys

barren tapir
viral haven
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Solo bers queen or finishing her off?

cunning wigeon
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I always tried to recreate the reapers in phoenix point but it never quite worked out the same

barren tapir
viral haven
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Oh damm

viral haven
barren tapir
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Remote detonations, claymores, sting and last shoot with blood trail with crit

cunning wigeon
barren tapir
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Sinderion is also nice

viral haven
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It has a neat idea with those dynamically evolving enemies

cunning wigeon
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ah shame, new jericho I could never get behind, their ideology was just too whack for me

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sinderion were based if a little too naive

barren tapir
viral haven
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Amazing

cunning wigeon
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and we dont talk about disciples of anu, im only here for my mutant abilities i dont want your alien transhuman religion

viral haven
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Lol

barren tapir
cunning wigeon
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and also the fact that new jericho made the pure is just not cool man, I mean the pure are cool but abandoning the cybernetics program was sucky

barren tapir
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They are playing with fire

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At least new jericho stick with true and tested stuff, unless you are a peculiar liutenant...

cunning wigeon
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yeah if you get into them it turns out they actually understand the pandoravirus quite well and can predict its mutations because of their weird ass leader, but i get not wanting to be a part of their whacky cult

barren tapir
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Eh, i think she felt the pandoravirus, but didn't understand it... I like that you can get a psyker with normal head from them

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But yeah, not the path i would like for mankind

cunning wigeon
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super cool but i agree, very freaky

barren tapir
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A stable one?

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Well, that i didn't realized

viral haven
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A stable virus?

cunning wigeon
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yeah, they have a stabilised strain they induce mutations with

cunning wigeon
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just name it was given

barren tapir
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I mean, i understood that they kinda immersed them in the mist to get mutations, with some mix of drugs to kinda drive the mutation where they want

viral haven
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Similar to the green flu in left 4 dead?

cunning wigeon
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uh not familiar with it

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pandoravirus was found in the artic, 97% of its genes never seen before

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humans fucked around

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it got into the oceans

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mutates fish into weaponised bioforms

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then releases an airborne strain to cloud the thinking of humans until the immerse themselves in the ocean

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where it then mutates them as well

barren tapir
viral haven
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That sounds like interesting lore

cunning wigeon
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oh wait nevermind i got it wrong

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one sec

barren tapir
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It is, and if you have read lovecraft you will get the hang of it

cunning wigeon
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It is a "giant virus" with an enormous genome size -- over three thousand times larger than most viruses -- and only about one percent of its genes match anything recorded up to its first discovery.

barren tapir
viral haven
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Anyway

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Does sound interesting

cunning wigeon
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its a pretty cool game, and worth a pick up if you like xcom

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especially if it is on sale

viral haven
#

Well, I like XCOM (but only really played the new remakes), but I didn't enjoy it

#

Got it first when it released, and then a couple weeks back again to try it

cunning wigeon
#

oh okay, what didnt you enjoy?

viral haven
#

Seemed better, but still

#

I can't exactly explain it, it was a few things. The whole feel of the game was off at least imo

cunning wigeon
#

oh wait, did you not enjoy phoenix point or xcom?

#

phoenix point?

viral haven
#

Phoenix Point

#

I loved XCOM and XCOM 2

cunning wigeon
#

ah okay

viral haven
#

Probably because I only got into the series thanks to the remakes

formal wind
#

How about Wasteland 3? personally I had a lot of fun.

vapid tiger
#

@storm jungle waaaaaaahhhhhh leagues of votann are mary sues because they are not racist enough >:((((((

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r/40klore moment

storm jungle
#

This is correct.

wind flicker
#

so true bestie

vapid tiger
#

40k reddit making "le xenos" and "le heretic" jokes towards every faction and then getting mad whenever anyone calls out the Imperium in the same manner

lyric ember
#

Do y'all think that the machine god is either

A. A real god

B. Just the c'tan shard

C. Coincidence

wind flicker
#

D. Rogue sentient machine spirit

atomic pelican
#

Probably a mix of A and B

lyric ember
#

Thats just an ai that doesnt wanna deal with humans

wind flicker
#

Emergent property of anyway

lyric ember
#

I get your point

wind flicker
#

Yea

lyric ember
#

I know stcs can do that

wind flicker
#

Ctan shard probably affected it at some point

lyric ember
#

But we already have votann now so i dont that'll happen

wind flicker
#

So a ctan affected banned machine spirit worshipped and turned into a god

lyric ember
#

If it does in like 2 years i hate you

wind flicker
#

I don't make the rules

tawdry escarp
#

I thought the Omnissiah is the Void Dragon?

#

Machine God, whatever

signal hill
#

The Omnissiah is big e, recognized by Mars as the Prophet of the Machines god

#

@tawdry escarp

tawdry escarp
#

That's why I said Machine God

#

I get the two mixed up sometimes

signal hill
#

The void Dragon is the Machine god though
At least according to some sources @_@
Never take gw Lore for a fact lol

wind flicker
#

the void dragon is lasgun recoil

tawdry escarp
#

So the truth finally comes out. Lasguns have recoil because the Void Dragon commands it so

#

Makes as much sense as anything else in 40k

lusty lantern
#

Ender Dragon~

#

Goes all the way back to Minecraft~

storm jungle
tawdry wyvern
viral haven
#

Can Arco flaggelants be corrupted to chaos?

#

May be an stupid question

tawdry wyvern
#

with enough scrap code, why not

#

in the mechanicum book the bad bois used corrupted servitors too

viral haven
#

Because that could be fairly terrifying

slate gate
#

That's basically what an Ogryn brute is.

plush mason
#

so the convo in gen chat has me thinking. there has to be a massive black market in the imperium

wind flicker
#

Yep

brittle nebula
#

Yes

wind flicker
#

Rogue traders go brrrr

brittle nebula
#

100 hundreds of worlds level of Big!

#

Speaking of which I hope that rogue trader game is good.

plush mason
#

same

#

what little we have seen looks awesome

brittle nebula
#

We are going to see a part of the imperium that is to my knowledge. That are barely written about.

#

That’s the most exciting part.

timid wadi
#

Where’s our 40k han solo

brittle nebula
#

Exactly

storm jungle
#

criminal syndicates, cabals, cartels, any sort of criminal enterprise exists in lore because humans be humans

#

its just not really explored as usual because, you know, big gun war game

plush mason
#

yeah ofc black markets are a part of war time

#

and i really really hope the new rogue trader game will let us explore said underworld in great detail

rose thorn
#

Also I hope rogue traders come back to table top

#

Either killteams or anytning like that

plush mason
#

who knows. if the game does well enough GW might restart it if they see enough interest being generated for it

rose thorn
#

YESSSS

#

Rogue traders are so fucking cool

brittle nebula
#

As long as they are competent it will be a blast to play.

unique berry
#

loyalists,Traitors and whatever else is out there i got a question that still confuse me are Alpharius, Omegon and the XXth Legion actually Traitor or Loyalists "working in the shadow"

plush mason
#

like iirc the whole legion broke up into 100s of warband and scattered all over the galaxy

#

some are loyal and others are traitor

brittle nebula
#

It’s very confusing.

#

It even worse since they are all Alpharius.

plush mason
#

yup

#

its a rabbithole inside of a rabbithole that leads to another rabbithole lol

signal hill
storm jungle
#

They are fully traitors.

The Alpha Legion havent done a single thing to help the imperium since the horus heresy. The fans just love making a molehill out of them and "theories" without any sort of evidence for the sake of memes

plush mason
#

i thought the new book about them more or less confirmed the whole warbands thing

#

hell i still cant remember which of the twins it said died lol

storm jungle
#

Rob Sanders' excellent Sons of the Hydra has a group that believe they're serving the Imperium by making it stronger. They turn out to none of them be original alpha legionnaires, and the original alpha legionnaires they meet are fully tentacled. One warlord is obsessed with killing ultramarines after Guilliman killed Omegon/Alpharius as Eskrandor. The protagonists are 'just' imperial renegades who read old Alpha Legion material and rebranded themselves.

#

so yeah they are traitors, nothing more

plush mason
#

sons of the hydra wasnt the book i was talking about tho

#

it was the HH one

storm jungle
#

Nah thats not a good book

plush mason
#

LOL

storm jungle
#

because Alpharius literally says the entire thing is a lie

#

he says it TWICE

plush mason
#

but he is alpharius so how do we know that also isnt a lie?

#

but he is alpharius so how do we know that also isnt a lie?

storm jungle
#

Because Alpha Legion always hide the truth infront of you and make you overthink

#

thats their entire schtick

#

they arent that mysterious

plush mason
#

or are they? 😛

storm jungle
#

Nah.

plush mason
#

im trolling btw

storm jungle
#

I know but still

#

💀

unique berry
tender igloo
unique berry
ebon plinth
#

is the celestial orrey making stars go boom still a thing in 40k ?

storm jungle
#

The dynasty using it is pretty responsible and its not that old of a lore point so it aint going anywhere

vast frigate
#

They have no real need to use it

frail rune
#

Are there any Ork Clans who uses Purple as their main color scheme ? (Given Purple is for Stealth)

errant spade
frail rune
#

made a small group called "Big Smartiez" where they are purple

plush mason
#

the truly crazy thing is. as orks more or less cant see purple. all the purple orks can even seem themselves. thats why they never do anything

unique berry
#

Orc logic in WH40k is the best

frail rune
#

If you think something works like so

#

It just does

unique berry
#

I wish i had that easy lol

storm jungle
#

The Ork WAAAAGH effect may make them reality warpers, but it doesn't just outright replace causality itself. It's more of a reality grease that makes things run more smoothly so their logic works the way they want it to.

#

The memes misdirect it too much as usual.

frail rune
#

It makes me laugh how they are pretty much impossible to wipe out since they are mushrooms

storm jungle
#

Spore Moment

#

this is how your planet dies

peak hamlet
#

Stop touching it what the fuck

plush mason
#

lol

final spruce
plush mason
#

still funny tho

#

the idea that some orks once painted themselves purple and just basically stopped existing due to not being able to see themselves is a very funny one

tawdry escarp
#

Do you think that Slaanesh has a special piece of defensive equipment that's like one of those spiked targes but instead of a spike it's a dildo. It's called a Fuckler.

rose thorn
#

i mean tehres a gift of slaanesh thats just a needle tipped with a poison that makes you a vegetable except everything you feel is amplified to the umph degree and makes you hyper aware.

rose thorn
#

funfact if you actually learn about what slaanesh provides its fucking horrifying

#

less in a literal way and more of a

#

makes you itch your skin, and the idea people willingly accept these and spend their lives work for it

tawdry escarp
#

Like the Chelsea Lovers scene from Man With a Golden Torc?

#

Great book. Weird chapter.

rose thorn
#

gonan be honest i hvae no fucking clue what that is

tawdry escarp
#

Simon R. Green is a great author

#

He has a series of books called the Secret Histories where the main character is basically a supernatural secret agent and all the titles are James Bond references

#

Man With the Golden Torc is the first book

rose thorn
#

heres a great example

#

see that guy

#

hes alive

#

this is a REWARD

tawdry escarp
#

Chaos shit is weird and we meme about it so we don't have to think about all the weird shit

rose thorn
#

40k is weird shit

#

there was this pyker called the uh

#

war singer i think

#

basically they were gifted by slaanesh and they sang in battle

#

which caused both sides of the battle to begin tearing each other apart

#

literally

#

if you wanna hear about a great rundown of what slaanesh actually standsfor i suggest you read up on the dark prince's realms

tawdry escarp
#

Oh, I've read some shit, my guy

#

It's why I'll never touch anything remotely close to Slaanesh

#

I'm not a fan of Chaos in general but Slaanesh holds a special place of contempt in my brain

#

Not to mention I actually like the Eldar and she/he/it likes to eat their souls

vapid tiger
#

I like slaanesh

#

Slaanesh fits the classical idea of satan in my mind

#

Prince of darkness, all about temptation etc

tawdry escarp
#

Some people want to watch the world burn

unique berry
tawdry escarp
#

The Imperium isn't without it's flaws but Chaos is just destruction for destruction's sake

#

I wish there were independent human factions, unburdened by all of the Imperium's baggage

#

It's bloated with corruption and extreme zealotry

#

It's one thing to have Faith. The Imperium takes it too far

vapid tiger
#

yo what the fuck this man's got 1488 in his username

#

uhhhhhhh

#

no i think it's funny

#

it's edgy

tawdry escarp
#

Cool your jets, dude

vapid tiger
#

also the 1488 in your username suggests you are a nazi but i won't call mods yet

#

sifhajsdfhdsghfg

#

what the fuck

#

this is hilarious

#

average chaos hater

#

LMAO

#

damn

tawdry escarp
#

Oh thank god

#

Thanks, Gawain

#

That guy was getting real weird

vapid tiger
#

that guy was your buddy mecha

tawdry escarp
#

Fuck that noise

vapid tiger
#

you were bonding over disliking chaos or w/e

tawdry escarp
#

He thought i was one of them or something

#

I'm not

wind flicker
#

Oh no

#

Was he funnier in here

rose thorn
vapid tiger
#

chaos has been somewhat essential to 40k ever since the realm of chaos books in 1989

rose thorn
#

‘DEATH TO THE FALSE GOD, BURN THE GALAXY, FOR CHAOSSSSSSS’

#

Oh yeah I have wholeheartedly accepted that my favorite faction will be nothing more then a plot device

#

I play chaos daemons for fuck sale ‘I AM THE PLOT DEVICE! YOUR MCGUFFIN IS BECAUSE OF ME MWAHAHAHAHAH’

vapid tiger
#

they should be more threatening imo

rose thorn
#

YUp

vapid tiger
#

Have abaddon carve out a dark empire around where horus's was

#

And also base it in the istvaan system like horus did

rose thorn
#

I like the BL but idk shit about this

#

I mainly like WB and EC

#

And I still hold an eternal vendetta against SWs

#

My bad I was malding abour the axe thing again

errant pike
#

fellow traitor pogryn

vapid tiger
#

Thousand sons and night lords b good

#

Bow before your winged skeksis overlords

rose thorn
#

I’m so hype for that EC short story

#

Fucking MODERN EC in a fucking story

#

I’ve been waiting for this for years

atomic pelican
#

Tbf CSM are the main threat to the setting

#

Its just the setting has to survive

#

But they still remain more threatening than like, the supposed big nid threat who gets slapped at every corner

rose thorn
#

Yeah they are the main threat, but when was the last time we got a major proof of strength

atomic pelican
#

The 13th Black Crusade

#

Which wasnt that long ago

#

Abaddon tore the galaxy in half

vapid tiger
atomic pelican
#

Yeah but imperial plot armor

vapid tiger
#

The area literally described by a writer as "what would happen if chaos won"

rose thorn
vapid tiger
#

Instead it's just

atomic pelican
#

Its affected the setting as a whole, just anyone with imperial plot armor gets to jump over it

vapid tiger
#

Blood angels doing their thing

#

While in a small corner things are actually fucked with the emperor's spears and whatnot

rose thorn
atomic pelican
#

Mephiston is more bullshit plot armored than any ultramarine could ever be

#

Fuckin blood angels

rose thorn
#

I guess uhh… bolter and hammer that one episode

#

Which was a really good episode

#

From what I heard

atomic pelican
#

Organized*

#

Death to the false emperor and all

rose thorn
#

Yeah true

atomic pelican
#

Reminder that Blood Angels I believe have been 'nearly wiped out' like a gillion times

rose thorn
#

Lmao

#

Isn’t that most loyalists post heresy

atomic pelican
#

Maybe but I mostlt hear BA abt it

vapid tiger
atomic pelican
#

Black Legion and Nids have both nearly wiped out their chapter

rose thorn
#

‘Space wolves were almost wiped out, imperial fists were almost wiped out, ultra marines were completely fine

vapid tiger
#

It is hilarious

atomic pelican
#

Ultramarines were also nearlt wiped by nids LMAO

rose thorn
#

OH YEAHHH

vapid tiger
#

Because gw almost only focuses on the first founding chapters despite them making up less than 10% of all chapters

#

salamanders are even smaller than most marine chapters

#

and apparently are routinely threatened

#

space wolves nearly got wiped by the thousand sons and dark angels after warzone fenris

#

only to get primaris reinforcements

#

Imperial Fists WERE wiped out in the war of the beast

rose thorn
#

‘Guys how do we make this space marine chapter who has basically never suffered for the entire HH sympathetic?’

#

‘They were almost whipped out.’

#

At least night lords are fucking cool about it

rose thorn
#

The only reason they all are still under the banner night lords is because the name strikes fear into people

#

Otherwise they would fuck off and die in the warp

vapid tiger
#

blood angels fans when you tell them that reviving their "golden hawkboy" would result in the death company, their coolest thing in lore, not existing and make them way less interesting

#

and also be the worst goddamned thing to do to 40k's narrative aside from the emperor getting up or something

rose thorn
#

Lmao

vapid tiger
#

but nerds are not smart

rose thorn
#

I want Corvus back,m

#

I don’t even like raven guard that much

vapid tiger
#

well corvus never died tbf

rose thorn
#

It’s just a cool idea that his entire legion just fucking out of the blue

#

‘Yeha your demon dad is back.’

rose thorn
vapid tiger
#

honestly i want every single loyalist primarch aside from guilliman dead or just unwilling to fight under the banner of the imperium

#

Since that would actually be you know

#

dark

#

and convey that the imperium is fucked

#

have dorn be dead

rose thorn
#

lmao the lion would be a great for that

vapid tiger
#

have the lion just

never fucking wake up

rose thorn
#

That would be way funnier

#

I really hope that the salamanders quest turns out to do nothing

#

Like once they get all the shits it reveals a secret room with either a skeleton of a primarch or a note that’s like

vapid tiger
#

have leman russ be trapped in a tzeentch prison

have vulkan be chilling on a farm world and unwilling to work with the modern imperium, content to let it die

rose thorn
#

‘Yeah I lied.’

rose thorn
#

Maybe have that FUCKING DEMON AXE DO SOMETHINF

vapid tiger
#

I'd love if the salamanders gathered all the artifacts and it just gave coordinates to some empty farm planet

#

And vulkan was chilling and just told them

#

"Yeah no fuck this I'm done lmao"

#

"I'm gonna chill"

plush mason
#

that would be perfect

rose thorn
#

ITS NOT HARD GW,MAKE A BOOK ABOUT SPACE WOLVES SUFFERING FROM THEIR CONSEQUENCES

plush mason
#

but the space marines are the protags so they can never suffer the consequences. thems the rules

vapid tiger
#

thus is the rule of james workshop

rose thorn
#

THEIR LEADER HAS A FUCKING DAEMON AXE WITH A BLOODLETTER IN IT THEY STOLE FROM A GRAY KNIGHT THEY KILLED

#

AHGGGG

plush mason
#

no loyal SM chapter is allowed to suffer from their fuck ups

atomic pelican
#

How to troll BA fans: remind them that their pretty boy primarch's sword got turned into a pretty mask for a EC

rose thorn
#

YOU COULD PULL A FULGRIM AT FUCKING LEAST

scenic bolt
#

only chapter that can suffer for any period of time is the lamenters

#

theyre the certified down on their luck chapter

vapid tiger
#

how to troll 40k fans:

Tease lamenters special character release

Proceed to release a lamenters special character...for chaos marines, revealing they have turned after suffering enough bullshit

atomic pelican
#

How to troll swolf fans: remind them that Prospero was Horus' victory

scenic bolt
#

just say the word wolfwolfwolfwolfwolfwolfwolfwolfwolfwolfwolfwolfwolfwolfwolfwolfwolf, they already get enough of it in their codex that it'll pull them out of whatever tangent they occupy

rose thorn
#

Isn’t the point of the lamenters that they are a cursed legion because poeple just assumed they were curse

vapid tiger
#

They have bad luck

#

that's their entire thing

rose thorn
#

Nothing besides coincidences from how people perceived them

#

And their preformed judgement of the lamenters which caused a snow ball affect

#

Like, the fucking civilians they were trying to save from an ork slave camp just told them to give up and leave

scenic bolt
#

they get used as the punching boys because they were used as the punching boys in the past so whenever a writer needs a chapter to get punched they pull out the lamenters

rose thorn
#

I thought the astra claws were for that

#

Oh wiat

scenic bolt
#

theyre like the eldar of SM chapters, always losing, always on the backfoot, but never totally wiped out

rose thorn
#

@atomic pelican correct me if I’m wrong but aren’t Eldar doing pretty well atm?

#

Especially harlequins with teh laughing god finally revealing his plan

atomic pelican
#

Prettt much in the same state theyve been

#

The Ynnari arent going anywhere

scenic bolt
#

eldar are just spinning wheels

rose thorn
#

Man on the GW site they should move eldar to their own category

#

It bugs me so much and I don’t know why

scenic bolt
#

seeing as they got like 5 subfactions now

rose thorn
#

Like, they have waht 4 factions

atomic pelican
#

3

rose thorn
#

CW
Drukhari
Harlequins
Ynnari

atomic pelican
#

Ynnari arent their own faction tho rlly

tawdry escarp
#

Exodite?

rose thorn
#

And drukhari are basically 4 factions in one

#

Or was it 3?

atomic pelican
#

3 but only sort of

scenic bolt
#

I was chalking up corsairs, ynnari, harles and then the 2 big ones

#

but corsairs are pmuch kt only

rose thorn
#

But they don’t feel like xenos, they are way too big to be slapped in the xenos category

atomic pelican
#

Yeah but corsairs and Ynnari arent rlly full model lines

#

So its p much 3

rose thorn
#

I pray corsairs get more

granite gull
#

why have i seen the same necron gun shoot in like 37 different ways

scenic bolt
#

40k needs the aos sea elves

#

but in space

granite gull
#

the gauss gun

atomic pelican
#

Drukhari

granite gull
#

axe thing

rose thorn
#

the Corsair Prince got new rules to specifically affect corsairs

atomic pelican
#

Drukhari and Idoneth share so many thematics

granite gull
#

ive seen it burst ive seen it shoot like las gun

#

and now it shoots a beam

rose thorn
#

Well less new rules

atomic pelican
#

IDK are just sympathetic

rose thorn
#

Mannn idk if I’d like drukhari, they are everything I like about Slaanesh

scenic bolt
#

theyre kinda similar in disposition but I meant more along the lines of aesthetics

rose thorn
#

But I also really got into it when they were super super busted

#

And was scared off of associating with the same people who bought 2k points of tyranids that are now selling siad army on eBay

scenic bolt
#

dont get too hung up on power levels

tawdry escarp
#

Yeah, the Exodites are coming back

scenic bolt
#

every faction rises and falls

#

the rise and falls happen quicker now since they started doing CA stuff

rose thorn
#

I just really really hope that daemons don’t get fucking busted

#

Please gw, just make like seekers, chariots, and blood crushers useful.

#

That’s all I want

#

and nerf splitting spam

#

OH SUMMONING FUCKING JIST

#

PL summoning is older then my sister

atomic pelican
#

Yeah itll die

#

Summoning likely to become akin to AoS summoning

#

Because holy shit it sucks in 40k

rose thorn
#

I love AOS summoning so hope

plush mason
scenic bolt
#

theyre still reeling from the summoning implications that early 8th engendered

#

which they corrected nicely in aos

atomic pelican
#

Yeah p much

scenic bolt
#

but hasnt translated to 40k

atomic pelican
#

Thats why CS daemons suck currently, still on ancient 8e

#

Like REALLY ancient 8e shit

plush mason
#

aos having a better system than 40k? what heresy is this?

rose thorn
#

Also please make a new khorne support model, Slaanesh anytning, and maybe tzeentch and bam

#

Perfect daemons

scenic bolt
#

aos has been better than 40k for awhile

#

imo

atomic pelican
#

Yeah

plush mason
atomic pelican
#

The only thing better in 40k for tabletop is Crusade

full nebula
#

Today I have learned about the Tower of Skulls and the Plaguereaper
Who knew there were Chaos Baneblades.

scenic bolt
#

oh ok it went over my head then

atomic pelican
#

Crusade is wayy better than PTG

plush mason
#

its the new title so they tend to be better for a lot of reasons

rose thorn
#

Lmao assault drop pods is basically meta for EC

plush mason
rose thorn
#

Everybody gangster till the baneblade gains sentience

rose thorn
atomic pelican
#

CSM stuff is abt getting phat glory

#

And potentially getting slapped with spawndom for failure

rose thorn
#

Shit not bad

#

Top is basically purely WEs thematically

#

EC could really shift between all of these

#

Word bearers would be middle

#

Know what this fucking bangs

atomic pelican
#

U get all 3

#

Which slaps

rose thorn
#

OH FUCK PUNISHMENTS

#

Wiat idk much abour crusade

#

Do all factions have punishments

atomic pelican
#

Nah but its likely you gotta FuckUp somehow to prompt getting Forsaken

#

GSC can be discovered and forced to fight an Ascension battle

#

For example

rose thorn
#

That sounds like

#

You could get fucked up right off the bat

atomic pelican
#

In the case of cults you have to be at a certain point for that to ever happen

#

And its easy to avoid

rose thorn
#

Ahhh

#

I wonder how daemons and… is it legion of the first prince in 40K?

#

I think it’s called something different

atomic pelican
#

For belakor hes just daemons too

#

Just a army of renown

rose thorn
#

Ah

atomic pelican
#

I think thats right

rose thorn
#

Well for a mixed chaos dameon force

#

I wonder how that would work for crusade

#

Thematically at least

atomic pelican
#

Will be revealed when their codex comes

#

Probs gonna have similar rules to Drukhari realspace raid

#

With incentives to bring all 4 gods

rose thorn
# atomic pelican

I love the idea of failing warfleet is literally just your soldiers not getting enough ammo and shit

atomic pelican
#

Or several

rose thorn
#

Yeah, maybe a sort of mix of raids, contacting cults, and baby sitting all 4 gods precious egos

#

Or if it’s a single force it’s just taking care of the one

thick badge
#

The great tabu of AI and the reason mankind like to semi-lobotomize human being into machine is because ''Hell naw AI fucked mankind before'' but how do they know of it? didnt all of mankind go through a stone age before Emp showed face? Or is it simply the Emperor that went ''No religion, No AI.'' as his 2 laws? and everyones like ''Hell nah daddy said no AI''

frail rune
#

I love how the Adeptus Mechanicus does not give a shit about the Emperor but are not prosecuted since they produce pretty much everything the Imperium uses

storm jungle
#

A majority of the admech does since they literally worship him

#

some sects dont though since every religion has its different views

hot lion
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The Emperor is the Omnissiah

storm jungle
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Yeah we know.

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either way hes just a Messiah ala Jesus, he isn't considered the Machine God

hot lion
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I mean, he clearly doesn't lmao

frail rune
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???

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I thought the Emperor and Omnissiah were two diffrent things

storm jungle
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Nah

frail rune
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Then again i still know half of the lore

storm jungle
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like i said hes basically their Jesus/Messiah

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the Machine God is the main deity

frail rune
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by halfi mean 2%

storm jungle
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that makes more sense?

frail rune
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So they refer the Emperor as the Messiah ?

hot lion
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Basically

storm jungle
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Omnissiah

frail rune
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Yeah that

storm jungle
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they just put "omni" at the beginning

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otherwise same thing

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They see him as the avatar of the machine god

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hence my Jesus example

frail rune
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One thing that Fantasy Warhammer (Not Age of Sigmar) has over 40K is that their Emperor is not a vegetable on life support

storm jungle
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Yeah the high fantasy angle allows other gods to actively do stuff

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meanwhile half the gods in 40k are in old folks home

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👨‍🦼

hot lion
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Most of them are outright dead

storm jungle
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in short, Sigmar good

frail rune
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My only real gripe with 40K is that Skavens are not a thing, sure Tyranids are a thing but they dont have a lot of personality

storm jungle
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yeah thats a common complaint

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space rats would be neat

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but alas

frail rune
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I love how in fantasy they are probably THE most advanced and could potentially destroy everyone

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but they fight amongst themselves every 13 minutes

storm jungle
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Not even a joke

plush mason
storm jungle
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skaven from birth are basically made to not trust anyone

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thats why they didnt just flat out win very early on

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"A tale is told of two Skaven, birthkin from the same breeder. While scouting the woods above their home, they encountered a ravenous Minotaur. Wisely, they fled the beast, but it gave chase and pursued them for many miles. "Surely," said the first Skaven, panting, "we cannot-cannot outrun this horrible creature."

The second chittered his agreement.

"Nor do we have to," he replied. Unsure of his birthkin’s motive, the first Skaven asked, "What do you mean?".

By way of response, the second Skaven tripped his companion, answering, "I--I only need to outrun you!""

—A Fable from the Lessons of the Horned Rat