#40k-lore-chat
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Nah, you just stated wrong stuff
the designer himself has said it was a space marine so your debunk has been debunked
Them Captain's making friends already
Lol, not even close
Sob are way later
and this guy is crying about the 40k community when he's acting like this 
how long until everyone is blocked and hes talking to himself
And were made to kinda fix the hole left by no female SM
so you just take the parts as fact that you care about
What is even being argued over right now
what
I feel like the topic is shifted
that games workshop were good at being sexist in making only male space marines or something
it's called touch some grass I beg your pardon
@supple viper, do you know Arch?
I like my good boy points from reddit weirdos


this mememachine is the funniest part I've seen in this server for a while
ain't that the truth

No one is coping about it, we know very well it, and also the causes of it
funny coming from you 
I think female space marines wouldnt work tbh
you keep on saying we're the ones projecting
It's not really the same thing.
look at yourself lol
You just randomly brought it up
what?
Yo he blocked me as well 
you can test it by trying to add an emoji reaction to one of his messages
yup
man is determined to be an echo chamber of literally a single person
p much
Honestly I don't see why anyone fuckin' cares about female space marines. You wanna have them and are a tabletop player? Just paint yours and say they're women. You don't? Whatever, move on.
I find SoB more badass than space marines anyway but it's whatever at the end of the day.
Mostly for representation
i mean, theres no reason they shouldnt be a thing
Yeah this too
sob isn't the face of the universe
^
Because its dumb
This went from an argument about bolter recoil to whatever the hell is going on right now
simple as
lmao its 40k
How is it dumb lmao
everything is dumb
explain please
40k is very silly
just say women evolved to be big muscle mommies
I just go with the flow
because it is
so
no reason
Also, i would like to state that there is no lore that contraddict female custodes
Yeah its just for marketing really
there really isnt any reason not to do it given how insanely flexible and campy and ridiculous 40k is
They have the sisters of silence
Not the same thing
who is they
again
lol
lmao
And the same is true for SM
you dont have to collect models of only the same gender as you lmao
"we've perfected the human genome and can create super soldiers but the female chromosome scares me"
I do
I’m fine with no female space marines, because all of the geneseed is based off of male primarchs. I think female SM are possible, they just aren’t as stable without more effort to do it, combined with lots of tradition
They are way more different... They cannot keep up as comparison with Sm >< sob
Should be female custodes tho
There isnt any reasons for it tho
also this
Like, I get that you want to jump through lore hoops to explain why female SM's dont exist, but at the end of the day its 40k and it doesnt matter
lore is a marketing tool
anything GW says goes
10 years already into warhammer, both fantasy and 40K

It’s out of lore reasons, just marketing
the only reason has traditionally been marketing to a tight demographic and some nice sexism
☝️
Don't bother he'll block you 
lore has been changed countless times to fit different more modern ideas
People don’t want to over write like 30 years of lore or whatever
Dudes are crying for female space marines to jerk off to
You know that SM are based on male and female genes?
everyone here has seen that already
"only guys can be it because science"
and yeah we have
Welcome to 40k lore then 
if you are that annoyed you can leave my dude
we arent really asking for your input

Tbf it kind of doesn't. Lore in 40k gets contradicted alot so why couldn't this?
Why should i ask for wrong inputs?
That goes against the will of the omnissaiah
and that's like 10 years old paragraph just copypasted for the new core book without re visiting any of the things written for those books
Okay so
Ok I’m out
lmao
15 minutes
man didn't even read your full response lara and posted cope gif
And he says we're the ones projecting
LMAO
<@&735928989146939404> we got one
Must be a new record
nah
they go much faster normally
most escalate to extreme shit in the first 5 messages
The fastest was like half a minute in the server
Guess ill go make tea 😔
Like third sentence and was ban
legit need one, im thirsty
Hol on... Did the captain left or got booted?
what dont we pay you for
messages weren't deleted so probably just left?
Nah he left i think
Wait sorry what word did he use?
LMAO yeah
cope indeed
he semed chill before
just a super transphobic post

the moment we mentioned women the guy went ballistic
Guess we were too entitled to be 40K players
Sh
Ah*
big oof
KEK
HOW THATS LITERALLY TRANSPHOBIC
you DIDNT?
NO
lmao
BRUH MOMENT
I didn't realize either bruh
no he was talking directly to you :DDD
Da hell Dil?

You are working?
How the hell did you managed to be so present
these excel sheets are burning my eyes 💀
tea break
Oh
based spend your paid time talking to salty 40k weirdos
Praised be tea
I do love how you clearly said "would be cool if women were in the poster faction" and he just missed your point as if you were saying women werent in 40k
Bringer of time break and best drink
this is a certified Chad Stormcast Moment
next time someone starts ree'ing about le females I'll just ask rightaway if they're a transphobe
I asked him if he knew Arch, but didn't answered
Must have been a old banned person
probs
'Why do you want female space marines? we gave you women an equal representation faction"
You women
it only takes 30 google image results to see the first woman searching "warhammer 40k"
I mean, he sticked to old lore so much that was probably one that missed the point of its origin
"grrrrr my fucked up pandered to faction now includes two x chromosones? gw suck"
Which if even more funny when he was complaining about people missing the point of starship trooper
gw would just use it as a way to sell more minis tbh
And blocking anyone that disagreed with him
Yeah this tbh
Its funny how mad people get when I say female space marines are dumb and I don't elaborate on the subject
tbh he seemed pretty fragile, like when he couldnt think of anything to back himself up he just people were "simply wrong"
^
post any gigachad gifs if you want tho
I will
Noice.
cope gifs spam
maybe a couple seethes?
and just a pinch of mald
i think he already left
if youre feeling adventurous
Yeah he has
I love Chaos maxxing
you can ban people that still left i think
Ya
yee
possibly throw out a didnt ask or two
yeah but next time will probably just with another new account lel
No one that know the history of the lore get mad, it is the people that are ignorant of the history that get mad
even if he comes back its the matter of bringing up the same topic again 
and my man will go ballistic
i wonder how many times on how many accounts he has been banned on this discord already
He's going to make a YouTube type apology
My favorite part was how he got so hostile for no reason over a bolter chat of all things.
Like, some people like to think that SM are something that is well thought, when in reality it is just a mess with weak lore and awful history
good gif
bows
A chat that he clearly didn't knew anything about...
The most hilarious thing was him complaining about the 40k community
I just make fun of space marine simps
based
very based
Like, talking with me and Skele about bolters...
"You guys clearly werent in 40k for over a year"
Honestly, I'd like that
Meanwhile, I was into 40k lore when women werent even allowed to pilot Knights 💀
"NO! my imaginary gun can only be used by my favourite people! someone else cant just use the same one! thats heresy!"
i saw they are promoting this new horus heresy game and was like "so.. its JUST marines" why the fuck
I was into 40K lore when knights weren't even a thing

Gunnar is leaking

Or when Ad. Mech. was just a support thing
Say his name three times
Not a independent faction
And he shows up
one step away from saying its a weapon for the ubermensch
oh NO
Damn, why i didn't thought about asking this 😩
It reminded me of the guy who entered the server, started being racist and went "we are all 40K fans here right?
hahaha
oh no 
average 40K fan
theyre always so surprised that 40k doesnt mean a safe space for every -ism under the sun
b-b-but my imperium is fascist so that means I can be
They like to be racist and discriminatory as long they are the oppressors, when they are the oppressed they don't like it, and cry
haAHAHAHAHAHAH
I still haven't managed to understand how they hell they can think that discriminate is fine if they are the ones doing it, but the moment they are the discriminated one they cry without stop
Because they are insecure cry babies
mfw when Rhodesia
Yeah, i i simply cannot understand how they can "reason"... Like, they clearly think they are in the right, but how the fuck cannot you see such a plain contraddiction
You just have to accept people think differently
god reminds me of how a new friend I know actually likes 40k, I didnt really know this until I made a comment about this server and mentioned all the imperium fanboy chuds and he was like "wdym". I explained the people saying shit like the imperium is doing its best or its the best hope for humanity and he just agreed with them the entire time, was kinda surreal
i mean the imperium probably is humanities best chance at survival in the 40k universe
its just really fucking dumb and fascist
Bruh, i'm the one that most of the time think differently, but that is about not seeing the plain contradiction, and also convuluted thinking, which can be fine, just don't let it blind you
Dude I Love the imperium tho
but the fact its dumb and fascist prevent it from actually being a good defense against chaos/nids
like all the fascism just feeds into chaos and the stupidity makes the nids job a cake walk
i mean theyre doing ok so far i guess
but they've been on the back foot this entire time
there are genestealers on terra
most of chaos' ranks are humans
Can't wait for the 40k equivalent of Age of Sigmar
if every human system had to fight independantly for itself it would all crumble, imperium is dogshit but at least its mostly managed to keep all the humans on the same "side"
Where they throw everything out the window and reboot
Imperium is the only hope for humanity if they change their ways they are likely to die
tbf everything wasn't thrown out the window, mainly just reimagined
most factions stay true to their Whfb selves
imperium is set up in a way that its self sustainingly terrible, any attempted changing force just gets exterminatused before it can get going
The Imperium's eventual fate is to also die tho
but it isnt sustainable
it just hasnt because toy sales
it is dying
its not sustainable
huh
its probably the best shot humans as a whole have to slow their inevitable doom tho
yeah probably
even if that was truew
Bend over
but i dont see the main imperium structure literlly ever being able to change
it is only because the imperium has taken out any valid opposition
plug it
aren't most of chaos' ranks humans?
with more bodies
seems like they're getting bent over pretty hard to me
and offers it its biggest champions
Yes and they should die
LMAO
10th edition rulebook will be 5 pages long, chaos rift got really big and consumed the whole galaxy then burped afterwards
whether by chaos or the imperium humanity is enslaved
Sorry that they get manipulated to worshipping darker gods when the empire they serve to starves them to death
Do you see any other option
Yeah we do
What
lobotimization
Lol
and uh
no, the imperium killed all the better ones lmao
firing squads
Easiest tip to not suffer in the 40k universe: don't exist at all
or uh
dying in trenches
or uh
getting stabbed by rebel humans
or uh
dying any other horrific way
the Imperium doesnt care about anyone lmao
Yes, plenty actually
especially its own populace
my point was just that for most of the human species in 40k there is "no die fighting" it's as you would put it "get bent over"
Its because the Imperium is the Collective of humanity it doesn't care about the individual because there is to much at stake
"The Imperium is a better alternative than chaos guys trust me."
yeah sure looks like it
Im sure that is a picture of Psykers being sacrificed
Cant wait for me and my kids to get stapled to a floating parade platform because I wanted to steal some food to feed my starving family
Pretty metal
being worked to death in a factory, slaughtered by arbites for demanding better conditions, subverted by genestealers, tortured by drukhari, enslaved by chaos, or even just straight up being lobotomised for misdemeanors humans almost never get the option to die fighting
Looks like a fun amusement ride for the whole family :)
When big G tell you to stop being so shitty otherwise there is no reason for people to not switch to chaos you know you have reached a new low
yeah a large portion of the Imperium's populace is just slave labour
Muh liberty like bruh we are fighting against literal gods
and the enslavement and poor conditions only further those gods
its easy to act tough until you are faced with it
Dude the Chaos gods dont care either
they feed off negative feelings
so humanity being one giant pile of them only helps the chaos gods
The clown chat
🤡
the Imperium just helps with that yeah lol

wait a minute-
Bruh, we have examples of actual functioning societies that kick chaos ass every day
damn humanity is really zealous and obsessed with perpetuating the imperial truth
We had examples of societies that were doing super fine until the imperium arrived
sure do hope there isn't a chaos god who loves obsession
man the imperium is really stagnant and hates change
sure do hope there isnt a chaos god who feeds off of cycles and things staying the same
The imperium is simply the worst option humanity has... It is true that it try to prolong its life though, and that mean trying to not kill humans all by itself, although it is doing a fucking good job at trying
man humans do love scheming for power
Imperium is the only option
Its not lmao
sure do hope there isnt a chaos god who feeds off of scheming and backstabbing
No, it is not, it is the worst and the one we are stuck at, not the only one
man humans sure do love fighting in bloody conflicts
sure do hope there isnt a chaos god who feeds off of fury and bloodshed
What is the other option
America?
oh wait

all the ones the imperium silenced and or destroyed
There's the Tau Empire style of way of running things
Adrantis five, interex, hell even tau could work...
Well they are gone now so what is else
Family.
?????
Tau 😭
Votann are arriving 😎
Tau cringe, farsight enclave though
Dwarfs are chad so maybe
inb4 where stone
Also we have clear examples that in some places the situation is better and go way better than the imperium standard
We have examples of democracy on necromunda, although a slightly twisted one
I mean isnt guilliman making things better
We know that people started uprising for progress and democracy
there really isnt much point in continuing the subject Silver, no progress will be made
Yes, he did quite a lot, mostly telling imperial governor to stop being shit and treat their citizen better
But also admit that he couldn't make all the changes he wanted
I mean, the imperium is so fucked up that it gave big G depression
Not yet atm.
Right now they are getting lore drops through warhammer community. Last week we saw what their regular squads look like so they are drip feeding info at the moment, we'll probably get something proper when they get their codex
And they are basically the new squats?
If they are able to find more primarchs maybe they could go back to the way they were in 30K
Ah, could be interesting
Ye its gradual atm so we'll see
I mean, if some primarch stopped hitting snooze on the alarm FFS
Fr Lol
But that would also mean civil war
So I will not be able to play, as I left the shit show that was my local 40k group lol
Lmao oof
I think Lionel could help a lot
Lion would just march on the ecclesiarchy and murder them all
Remember, even russ was more cool headed than the lion on some topics
We obviously need loyalist angron, he would be a good politician
He was meant to be the more empathetic primarch indeed
They need a strong leader like Lion
more like empathetic lol
Also, based XCOM 2 pfp
Reapers are based
Yes
What do you mean it's OP to have a full squad of max level reapers that are always concealed
Feth, typos are gonna be my end, thanks for the correction
Dream squad
no wasnt a correction lol
was just throwing in the pathetic part
But i also loved single reaper destroy facility, kill the bers queen and extract without being seen
Solo bers queen or finishing her off?
I always tried to recreate the reapers in phoenix point but it never quite worked out the same
Finishing her off with more than half the HP
Oh damm
I tried to get into phoenix point several times, but it always lost me
Remote detonations, claymores, sting and last shoot with blood trail with crit
yeah it for sure has problems, which sucks because it is actually really good if you can see past some flaws
True, but i like new jericho there, big guns will drop everything, and if they don't, bring bigger guns
Sinderion is also nice
It has a neat idea with those dynamically evolving enemies
ah shame, new jericho I could never get behind, their ideology was just too whack for me
sinderion were based if a little too naive
I mean... Their first mission is them being scammed lol
Amazing
and we dont talk about disciples of anu, im only here for my mutant abilities i dont want your alien transhuman religion
Lol
I loved it, but was wary of them, since it could become very bad in very short time, but the leader is a good man, not so much one of his liutenants
and also the fact that new jericho made the pure is just not cool man, I mean the pure are cool but abandoning the cybernetics program was sucky
They were the ones that couldn't follow for me... I did some of their missions, and i could appreciate that they are very focused on food production, but they are playing with things they don't understand imo
They are playing with fire
At least new jericho stick with true and tested stuff, unless you are a peculiar liutenant...
yeah if you get into them it turns out they actually understand the pandoravirus quite well and can predict its mutations because of their weird ass leader, but i get not wanting to be a part of their whacky cult
Eh, i think she felt the pandoravirus, but didn't understand it... I like that you can get a psyker with normal head from them
But yeah, not the path i would like for mankind
they dont use the rampant pandoravirus, they have a stabilised version they use
super cool but i agree, very freaky
A stable virus?
yeah, they have a stabilised strain they induce mutations with
dw pandoravirus isnt actually a virus
just name it was given
I mean, i understood that they kinda immersed them in the mist to get mutations, with some mix of drugs to kinda drive the mutation where they want
Was about to say
Similar to the green flu in left 4 dead?
uh not familiar with it
pandoravirus was found in the artic, 97% of its genes never seen before
humans fucked around
it got into the oceans
mutates fish into weaponised bioforms
then releases an airborne strain to cloud the thinking of humans until the immerse themselves in the ocean
where it then mutates them as well
Humans were also infected and committed suicide to prevent its spread in different events through history
That sounds like interesting lore
It is, and if you have read lovecraft you will get the hang of it
It is a "giant virus" with an enormous genome size -- over three thousand times larger than most viruses -- and only about one percent of its genes match anything recorded up to its first discovery.
You got mostly right
The cat
Anyway
Does sound interesting
its a pretty cool game, and worth a pick up if you like xcom
especially if it is on sale
Well, I like XCOM (but only really played the new remakes), but I didn't enjoy it
Got it first when it released, and then a couple weeks back again to try it
oh okay, what didnt you enjoy?
Seemed better, but still
I can't exactly explain it, it was a few things. The whole feel of the game was off at least imo
ah okay
Probably because I only got into the series thanks to the remakes
How about Wasteland 3? personally I had a lot of fun.
@storm jungle waaaaaaahhhhhh leagues of votann are mary sues because they are not racist enough >:((((((
r/40klore moment
This is correct.
so true bestie
40k reddit making "le xenos" and "le heretic" jokes towards every faction and then getting mad whenever anyone calls out the Imperium in the same manner
Do y'all think that the machine god is either
A. A real god
B. Just the c'tan shard
C. Coincidence
D. Rogue sentient machine spirit
Probably a mix of A and B

Thats just an ai that doesnt wanna deal with humans
Emergent property of anyway
I get your point
Yea
I know stcs can do that
Ctan shard probably affected it at some point
But we already have votann now so i dont that'll happen
So a ctan affected banned machine spirit worshipped and turned into a god
If it does in like 2 years i hate you
I don't make the rules
Superstition and also B
The Omnissiah is big e, recognized by Mars as the Prophet of the Machines god
@tawdry escarp
The void Dragon is the Machine god though
At least according to some sources @_@
Never take gw Lore for a fact lol
the void dragon is lasgun recoil
So the truth finally comes out. Lasguns have recoil because the Void Dragon commands it so
Makes as much sense as anything else in 40k

wrong, It's from a reference to Alduin from Skyrim
source: It just works
with enough scrap code, why not
in the mechanicum book the bad bois used corrupted servitors too
Because that could be fairly terrifying
That's basically what an Ogryn brute is.
so the convo in gen chat has me thinking. there has to be a massive black market in the imperium
Yep
Yes
Rogue traders go brrrr
100 hundreds of worlds level of Big!
Speaking of which I hope that rogue trader game is good.
We are going to see a part of the imperium that is to my knowledge. That are barely written about.
That’s the most exciting part.
Where’s our 40k han solo
Exactly
Its pretty much the same as star wars
criminal syndicates, cabals, cartels, any sort of criminal enterprise exists in lore because humans be humans
its just not really explored as usual because, you know, big gun war game
yeah ofc black markets are a part of war time
and i really really hope the new rogue trader game will let us explore said underworld in great detail
UEEE IM SO HYPE
Also I hope rogue traders come back to table top
Either killteams or anytning like that
who knows. if the game does well enough GW might restart it if they see enough interest being generated for it
As long as they are competent it will be a blast to play.
loyalists,Traitors and whatever else is out there i got a question that still confuse me are Alpharius, Omegon and the XXth Legion actually Traitor or Loyalists "working in the shadow"
like iirc the whole legion broke up into 100s of warband and scattered all over the galaxy
some are loyal and others are traitor
inside that rabbit hole one will find a cuckoos nest which surpsingly covers another rabbit hole
Okay so
They are fully traitors.
The Alpha Legion havent done a single thing to help the imperium since the horus heresy. The fans just love making a molehill out of them and "theories" without any sort of evidence for the sake of memes
i thought the new book about them more or less confirmed the whole warbands thing
hell i still cant remember which of the twins it said died lol
Rob Sanders' excellent Sons of the Hydra has a group that believe they're serving the Imperium by making it stronger. They turn out to none of them be original alpha legionnaires, and the original alpha legionnaires they meet are fully tentacled. One warlord is obsessed with killing ultramarines after Guilliman killed Omegon/Alpharius as Eskrandor. The protagonists are 'just' imperial renegades who read old Alpha Legion material and rebranded themselves.

so yeah they are traitors, nothing more
Nah thats not a good book
LOL
but he is alpharius so how do we know that also isnt a lie?
but he is alpharius so how do we know that also isnt a lie?
Because Alpha Legion always hide the truth infront of you and make you overthink
thats their entire schtick
they arent that mysterious
or are they? 😛
Nah.
im trolling btw
Ah okay thx for explaining it the question confused me for month lol
i do genuinely recommend this book even if the alpha legion are full traitor at this point. it's a really fun read and probably in my top 5 primarch books
I will give it a read thx for tipp
all primarchs must die
is the celestial orrey making stars go boom still a thing in 40k ?
Yeah.
The dynasty using it is pretty responsible and its not that old of a lore point so it aint going anywhere
They have no real need to use it
Are there any Ork Clans who uses Purple as their main color scheme ? (Given Purple is for Stealth)
We don't know, we can't find 'em
Indeed
made a small group called "Big Smartiez" where they are purple
the truly crazy thing is. as orks more or less cant see purple. all the purple orks can even seem themselves. thats why they never do anything
Orc logic in WH40k is the best
I love how it's essentially a combination of stupidity and imagination
If you think something works like so
It just does
I wish i had that easy lol
The Ork WAAAAGH effect may make them reality warpers, but it doesn't just outright replace causality itself. It's more of a reality grease that makes things run more smoothly so their logic works the way they want it to.
The memes misdirect it too much as usual.
It makes me laugh how they are pretty much impossible to wipe out since they are mushrooms
Stop touching it what the fuck
lol
Purple doesn't have orky effects in the 40k lore, its just a meme
still funny tho
the idea that some orks once painted themselves purple and just basically stopped existing due to not being able to see themselves is a very funny one
Do you think that Slaanesh has a special piece of defensive equipment that's like one of those spiked targes but instead of a spike it's a dildo. It's called a Fuckler.
i mean tehres a gift of slaanesh thats just a needle tipped with a poison that makes you a vegetable except everything you feel is amplified to the umph degree and makes you hyper aware.
no
funfact if you actually learn about what slaanesh provides its fucking horrifying
less in a literal way and more of a
makes you itch your skin, and the idea people willingly accept these and spend their lives work for it
Like the Chelsea Lovers scene from Man With a Golden Torc?
Great book. Weird chapter.
gonan be honest i hvae no fucking clue what that is
Simon R. Green is a great author
He has a series of books called the Secret Histories where the main character is basically a supernatural secret agent and all the titles are James Bond references
Man With the Golden Torc is the first book
Chaos shit is weird and we meme about it so we don't have to think about all the weird shit
40k is weird shit
there was this pyker called the uh
war singer i think
basically they were gifted by slaanesh and they sang in battle
which caused both sides of the battle to begin tearing each other apart
literally
if you wanna hear about a great rundown of what slaanesh actually standsfor i suggest you read up on the dark prince's realms
Oh, I've read some shit, my guy
It's why I'll never touch anything remotely close to Slaanesh
I'm not a fan of Chaos in general but Slaanesh holds a special place of contempt in my brain
Not to mention I actually like the Eldar and she/he/it likes to eat their souls
I like slaanesh
Slaanesh fits the classical idea of satan in my mind
Prince of darkness, all about temptation etc
Some people want to watch the world burn
Nothing that a good old exterminatus cant fix
The Imperium isn't without it's flaws but Chaos is just destruction for destruction's sake
I wish there were independent human factions, unburdened by all of the Imperium's baggage
It's bloated with corruption and extreme zealotry
It's one thing to have Faith. The Imperium takes it too far
yo what the fuck this man's got 1488 in his username
uhhhhhhh
no i think it's funny
it's edgy
Cool your jets, dude
also the 1488 in your username suggests you are a nazi but i won't call mods yet
sifhajsdfhdsghfg
what the fuck
this is hilarious
average chaos hater
LMAO
damn
that guy was your buddy mecha
Fuck that noise
you were bonding over disliking chaos or w/e
I’m on the opposite, I fucking LOVE CHAOS
chaos has been somewhat essential to 40k ever since the realm of chaos books in 1989
‘DEATH TO THE FALSE GOD, BURN THE GALAXY, FOR CHAOSSSSSSS’
Oh yeah I have wholeheartedly accepted that my favorite faction will be nothing more then a plot device
I play chaos daemons for fuck sale ‘I AM THE PLOT DEVICE! YOUR MCGUFFIN IS BECAUSE OF ME MWAHAHAHAHAH’
they should be more threatening imo
YUp
Have abaddon carve out a dark empire around where horus's was
And also base it in the istvaan system like horus did
I like the BL but idk shit about this
I mainly like WB and EC
And I still hold an eternal vendetta against SWs
My bad I was malding abour the axe thing again
fellow traitor 
I’m so hype for that EC short story
Fucking MODERN EC in a fucking story
I’ve been waiting for this for years
Tbf CSM are the main threat to the setting
Its just the setting has to survive
But they still remain more threatening than like, the supposed big nid threat who gets slapped at every corner
Yeah they are the main threat, but when was the last time we got a major proof of strength
The 13th Black Crusade
Which wasnt that long ago
Abaddon tore the galaxy in half
Setting could still survive if there was a chaos empire up in the imperium nihilus
Yeah but imperial plot armor
The area literally described by a writer as "what would happen if chaos won"
And that affected like… 2 books?
Instead it's just
Its affected the setting as a whole, just anyone with imperial plot armor gets to jump over it
Blood angels doing their thing
While in a small corner things are actually fucked with the emperor's spears and whatnot
Yeah, and I’ve only seen chaos realky clash with the imperium
Mephiston is more bullshit plot armored than any ultramarine could ever be
Fuckin blood angels
I guess uhh… bolter and hammer that one episode
Which was a really good episode
From what I heard
Yeah, tbf when organizes, Chaos' main beef is with the imperium
Organized*
Death to the false emperor and all
Yeah true
Reminder that Blood Angels I believe have been 'nearly wiped out' like a gillion times
Maybe but I mostlt hear BA abt it
Yes
Black Legion and Nids have both nearly wiped out their chapter
‘Space wolves were almost wiped out, imperial fists were almost wiped out, ultra marines were completely fine
It is hilarious
Ultramarines were also nearlt wiped by nids LMAO
OH YEAHHH
Because gw almost only focuses on the first founding chapters despite them making up less than 10% of all chapters
salamanders are even smaller than most marine chapters
and apparently are routinely threatened
space wolves nearly got wiped by the thousand sons and dark angels after warzone fenris
only to get primaris reinforcements
Imperial Fists WERE wiped out in the war of the beast
‘Guys how do we make this space marine chapter who has basically never suffered for the entire HH sympathetic?’
‘They were almost whipped out.’
At least night lords are fucking cool about it
"Buh buh sanguinius!!!"
The only reason they all are still under the banner night lords is because the name strikes fear into people
Otherwise they would fuck off and die in the warp
blood angels fans when you tell them that reviving their "golden hawkboy" would result in the death company, their coolest thing in lore, not existing and make them way less interesting
and also be the worst goddamned thing to do to 40k's narrative aside from the emperor getting up or something
Lmao
but nerds are not smart
well corvus never died tbf
It’s just a cool idea that his entire legion just fucking out of the blue
‘Yeha your demon dad is back.’
YEAH HE ISNT EVEN FUCKING WITH LORGAR ANYMORE
honestly i want every single loyalist primarch aside from guilliman dead or just unwilling to fight under the banner of the imperium
Since that would actually be you know
dark
and convey that the imperium is fucked
have dorn be dead
lmao the lion would be a great for that
have the lion just
never fucking wake up
That would be way funnier
I really hope that the salamanders quest turns out to do nothing
Like once they get all the shits it reveals a secret room with either a skeleton of a primarch or a note that’s like
have leman russ be trapped in a tzeentch prison
have vulkan be chilling on a farm world and unwilling to work with the modern imperium, content to let it die
‘Yeah I lied.’
nurgle*
Maybe have that FUCKING DEMON AXE DO SOMETHINF
I'd love if the salamanders gathered all the artifacts and it just gave coordinates to some empty farm planet
And vulkan was chilling and just told them
"Yeah no fuck this I'm done lmao"
"I'm gonna chill"
that would be perfect
ITS NOT HARD GW,MAKE A BOOK ABOUT SPACE WOLVES SUFFERING FROM THEIR CONSEQUENCES
but the space marines are the protags so they can never suffer the consequences. thems the rules
no
Space wolves cannot suffer outside of the horus heresy
thus is the rule of james workshop
THEIR LEADER HAS A FUCKING DAEMON AXE WITH A BLOODLETTER IN IT THEY STOLE FROM A GRAY KNIGHT THEY KILLED
AHGGGG
no loyal SM chapter is allowed to suffer from their fuck ups
How to troll BA fans: remind them that their pretty boy primarch's sword got turned into a pretty mask for a EC
YOU COULD PULL A FULGRIM AT FUCKING LEAST
only chapter that can suffer for any period of time is the lamenters
theyre the certified down on their luck chapter
how to troll 40k fans:
Tease lamenters special character release
Proceed to release a lamenters special character...for chaos marines, revealing they have turned after suffering enough bullshit
How to troll swolf fans: remind them that Prospero was Horus' victory
just say the word wolfwolfwolfwolfwolfwolfwolfwolfwolfwolfwolfwolfwolfwolfwolfwolfwolf, they already get enough of it in their codex that it'll pull them out of whatever tangent they occupy
Isn’t the point of the lamenters that they are a cursed legion because poeple just assumed they were curse
Nothing besides coincidences from how people perceived them
And their preformed judgement of the lamenters which caused a snow ball affect
Like, the fucking civilians they were trying to save from an ork slave camp just told them to give up and leave
they get used as the punching boys because they were used as the punching boys in the past so whenever a writer needs a chapter to get punched they pull out the lamenters
theyre like the eldar of SM chapters, always losing, always on the backfoot, but never totally wiped out
@atomic pelican correct me if I’m wrong but aren’t Eldar doing pretty well atm?
Especially harlequins with teh laughing god finally revealing his plan
eldar are just spinning wheels
Man on the GW site they should move eldar to their own category
It bugs me so much and I don’t know why
seeing as they got like 5 subfactions now
Like, they have waht 4 factions
3
CW
Drukhari
Harlequins
Ynnari
Ynnari arent their own faction tho rlly
Exodite?
3 but only sort of
I was chalking up corsairs, ynnari, harles and then the 2 big ones
but corsairs are pmuch kt only
But they don’t feel like xenos, they are way too big to be slapped in the xenos category
I pray corsairs get more
why have i seen the same necron gun shoot in like 37 different ways
the gauss gun
Drukhari
axe thing
the Corsair Prince got new rules to specifically affect corsairs
Drukhari and Idoneth share so many thematics
Well less new rules
IDK are just sympathetic
Mannn idk if I’d like drukhari, they are everything I like about Slaanesh
theyre kinda similar in disposition but I meant more along the lines of aesthetics
But I also really got into it when they were super super busted
And was scared off of associating with the same people who bought 2k points of tyranids that are now selling siad army on eBay
dont get too hung up on power levels
Yeah, the Exodites are coming back
every faction rises and falls
the rise and falls happen quicker now since they started doing CA stuff
I just really really hope that daemons don’t get fucking busted
Please gw, just make like seekers, chariots, and blood crushers useful.
That’s all I want
and nerf splitting spam
OH SUMMONING FUCKING JIST
PL summoning is older then my sister
Yeah itll die
Summoning likely to become akin to AoS summoning
Because holy shit it sucks in 40k
I love AOS summoning so hope
tbf that may not mean much lol
theyre still reeling from the summoning implications that early 8th engendered
which they corrected nicely in aos
Yeah p much
but hasnt translated to 40k
Thats why CS daemons suck currently, still on ancient 8e
Like REALLY ancient 8e shit
aos having a better system than 40k? what heresy is this?
Also please make a new khorne support model, Slaanesh anytning, and maybe tzeentch and bam
Perfect daemons
Yeah
i know thats the joke
The only thing better in 40k for tabletop is Crusade
Today I have learned about the Tower of Skulls and the Plaguereaper
Who knew there were Chaos Baneblades.
oh ok it went over my head then
Crusade is wayy better than PTG
its the new title so they tend to be better for a lot of reasons
Basically everything imperium on forge world also has chaos rules
Lmao assault drop pods is basically meta for EC
everybody gangster till the baneblade starts firing bloodletters lol
Everybody gangster till the baneblade gains sentience
I’m curious of what new daemon and CSM crusade stuff is gonna be
CSM stuff is abt getting phat glory
And potentially getting slapped with spawndom for failure
Shit not bad
Top is basically purely WEs thematically
EC could really shift between all of these
Word bearers would be middle
Know what this fucking bangs
Nah but its likely you gotta FuckUp somehow to prompt getting Forsaken
GSC can be discovered and forced to fight an Ascension battle
For example
In the case of cults you have to be at a certain point for that to ever happen
And its easy to avoid
Ahhh
I wonder how daemons and… is it legion of the first prince in 40K?
I think it’s called something different
Ah
I think thats right
Well for a mixed chaos dameon force
I wonder how that would work for crusade
Thematically at least
Will be revealed when their codex comes
Probs gonna have similar rules to Drukhari realspace raid
With incentives to bring all 4 gods
I love the idea of failing warfleet is literally just your soldiers not getting enough ammo and shit
Or several
Yeah, maybe a sort of mix of raids, contacting cults, and baby sitting all 4 gods precious egos
Or if it’s a single force it’s just taking care of the one
The great tabu of AI and the reason mankind like to semi-lobotomize human being into machine is because ''Hell naw AI fucked mankind before'' but how do they know of it? didnt all of mankind go through a stone age before Emp showed face? Or is it simply the Emperor that went ''No religion, No AI.'' as his 2 laws? and everyones like ''Hell nah daddy said no AI''
I love how the Adeptus Mechanicus does not give a shit about the Emperor but are not prosecuted since they produce pretty much everything the Imperium uses
A majority of the admech does since they literally worship him
some sects dont though since every religion has its different views
The Emperor is the Omnissiah
Yeah we know.
either way hes just a Messiah ala Jesus, he isn't considered the Machine God
I mean, he clearly doesn't lmao
Nah
Then again i still know half of the lore
by halfi mean 2%
that makes more sense?
So they refer the Emperor as the Messiah ?
Basically
Omnissiah
Yeah that
they just put "omni" at the beginning
otherwise same thing
They see him as the avatar of the machine god
hence my Jesus example
One thing that Fantasy Warhammer (Not Age of Sigmar) has over 40K is that their Emperor is not a vegetable on life support
Yeah the high fantasy angle allows other gods to actively do stuff
meanwhile half the gods in 40k are in old folks home
👨🦼
Most of them are outright dead
My only real gripe with 40K is that Skavens are not a thing, sure Tyranids are a thing but they dont have a lot of personality
I love how in fantasy they are probably THE most advanced and could potentially destroy everyone
but they fight amongst themselves every 13 minutes
Not even a joke
give us the space rat GW
skaven from birth are basically made to not trust anyone
thats why they didnt just flat out win very early on
"A tale is told of two Skaven, birthkin from the same breeder. While scouting the woods above their home, they encountered a ravenous Minotaur. Wisely, they fled the beast, but it gave chase and pursued them for many miles. "Surely," said the first Skaven, panting, "we cannot-cannot outrun this horrible creature."
The second chittered his agreement.
"Nor do we have to," he replied. Unsure of his birthkin’s motive, the first Skaven asked, "What do you mean?".
By way of response, the second Skaven tripped his companion, answering, "I--I only need to outrun you!""
—A Fable from the Lessons of the Horned Rat




