40k-lore-chat

[cerulean wagon]

🙏

[trim cypress]

Archaon the neverchosen was lonely

[wind flicker]

Please stop being racist to elves ok

[cunning wigeon]

L + only had two of their gods exist and one immediately died

If even AoS forgot about them it's not really my fault

Amen

[atomic pelican]

LMAO

[cerulean wagon]

in this case its not even about racism to elves, its "why does every main male character need an elf wife, why can't people shut up about this"

[cunning wigeon]

Becuase hurr Durr elves

[cerulean wagon]

see: gooliman

[wind flicker]

They can be a deep kin elf

[atomic pelican]

le SEX

[hushed kayak]

AoS seems to have a decent lore. What’s it like compare to the other universe

[atomic pelican]

LE BOOBEY

[hushed kayak]

[wind flicker]

https://c.tenor.com/ZW7qUbPs-4wAAAAM/neco-arc-bestie.gif

[atomic pelican]

WHEN I SEE A WOMAN CHARACTER THEY ARE IMMEDIATELY SOMEONES WAIFU HRHRHRHR

Brainrot

[cunning wigeon]

Only the male protag though

[atomic pelican]

Yeah

[cunning wigeon]

Because God forbid diversity

[wind flicker]

Hey isha can have an elf wife too

i dont discriminate

[cunning wigeon]

Less bloated, more humour, still pretty dark

[cunning wigeon]

Hopefully not a namarti lol

[atomic pelican]

Best rules of the big warhammer games

[hushed kayak]

i notice that with vermintide lol

[wind flicker]

I dont know the lore that well, I just like elves

[cunning wigeon]

Namarti are the eyeless deepkin

[cerulean wagon]

its really good just need to adjust to it being slightly higher fantasy (although still has pockets that are basically still WHF)

[wind flicker]

Is isha related to eyes or smth

[cerulean wagon]

its not my cup of tea but i can see the appeal

its fine to like elves but please don't ship them with literally every character

[wind flicker]

Does AOS have thousand son femboy faction

[storm jungle]

oh my god

AAA

[cerulean wagon]

its part of the reason elves get any shit is because the fanbase does that

[cunning wigeon]

No, but the namarti don't really live long (60 years)

They don't have eyes because souls from slaanesh were, to no one's surprise, fucked beyond belief

[atomic pelican]

Technically they could live longer but soul quotas mostly go to Akhelian and Isharaan castes

[cunning wigeon]

Yeah, but there is an upper limit still

[atomic pelican]

Yeeee

Diminishing returns and what not

[cunning wigeon]

And to making baby namarti live through childhood

[atomic pelican]

Idoneth are like Drukhari except they didnt cause their own problems

One of my favorite factions

True survivors

[cunning wigeon]

And don't really hate the people they fight

[atomic pelican]

Yeee

[cunning wigeon]

It's just necessity

[atomic pelican]

Its really sweet, they often trt to make the soul rending painless

[cunning wigeon]

Unless you are the child killing Fuethan

[storm jungle]

Okay so question

[atomic pelican]

For example, they often just let soul rended victims lull away in a coma to death

[wind flicker]

Is it more acceptable to ship everyone with skaven

[atomic pelican]

Rather than torment them

[storm jungle]

what do Idoneth get slaves for?

[atomic pelican]

Slaves?

[rose thorn]

Dman the blood pact is super fucking cool

[atomic pelican]

The Namarti are sort of slaves

[cunning wigeon]

Yeah, and take away the memories of the lost and violence

[storm jungle]

Oh they dont get slaves? I heard they do dark eldar-esque raids

[wind flicker]

Do the souls live on within the ido, i forgor

[atomic pelican]

They do but for souls

Not slaves

[storm jungle]

AH

got it

[cunning wigeon]

Souls are their lifeblood

[wind flicker]

So they're like slave batteries?

[cunning wigeon]

More important than air too them

[wind flicker]

Fmabh style

[storm jungle]

Gotcha

[cunning wigeon]

No, namarti are treated pretty normally if you consider isharann and akhelians as royals

[wind flicker]

No I mean like the souls themselves

[atomic pelican]

Im starting Idoneth now that my DoK are complete, their Vanguard is rlly hype

[cunning wigeon]

They are just second class citizens but outnumber the first class so are still treated with decency

[atomic pelican]

Yeeee

[cunning wigeon]

Oh they are seen as everything

Currency to some

[wind flicker]

Yeah but like

Are the souls mutable

[cunning wigeon]

Yeah

[wind flicker]

Are they food orbs

Etc

[atomic pelican]

Akhelians and such also are pretty likely to give birth to Namarti themselves too iirc. So no reason to mistreat them too poorly

Since their Heirs could be Namarti

[cunning wigeon]

They are infused into children to keep the namarti alive

And the isharann and akhelians need souls less frequently

[wind flicker]

Do the souls get absorbed into the ido consciousness or just slorped

[cunning wigeon]

Yeah and namarti can have akhelian and isharann kids

[atomic pelican]

Yep

No nespotism

[cunning wigeon]

Just the life force really

[atomic pelican]

The Akhelian nobility actually have precedence to be benevolent

[wind flicker]

Ah so batterie yea

[cunning wigeon]

There is the suggestion of some form of minor memory transference

The ones that use Ork souls are more savage for example

But that could just be because they are from the realm of beasts

(more likely)

[wind flicker]

I feel like the ido could farm orks

[cunning wigeon]

Oh they do

Orks don't really stand a chance Vs idoneth

Both on TT and in lore

[wind flicker]

Since orks are like myconids

[cunning wigeon]

Oh you mean like that

Lol

They probably could but Ork souls are worth very little

[atomic pelican]

Arent cruelboyz like megastrong atm?

Someone told me they turned 6s into MWs armywide

[cunning wigeon]

Yeah for shooting

But uj

[atomic pelican]

Ah

[cunning wigeon]

Idoneth can't be shot easily

[atomic pelican]

Idoneth hardcounter shooting

Yeah

[cunning wigeon]

Forgotten nightmares ftw

Plus one you charge into them it's over

[atomic pelican]

That and turn 1 no shooting beyond 12"

[wind flicker]

Idoneth are probably my favorite elves because they take so much design inspiration from hpl

[cunning wigeon]

Morrsarr do enough damage on a charge to kill a double reinforced unit of boltskewers

Just a massacre

[atomic pelican]

I wish the Vanguard came with an Akhelian King or any other Isharaan

The soulscryer doesnt rlly have use at small games imo

[cunning wigeon]

Ironjawz can cause problems though

Mawcrushed bane of them

[cunning wigeon]

Yeah and the soulrender sees limited use too

Namarti lists are cool but idoneth don't work as a horde faction

Maybe if we had some on foot akhelians

[atomic pelican]

Soulscryer's ability doesnt make sense to me since deepstriking is just worse since theyre so fast

I gotta get a tidecaster for the 2 rituals

[cunning wigeon]

Honestly most relatable thing about the idoneth is that they just hate having to interact with each other at the dinner table because it's always political

[atomic pelican]

LMAO

[cunning wigeon]

Just leave us to vibe on our continent sized turtle in peace please

[wind flicker]

I can no longer say I dont want to buy any figures

http://warpaint.laughingorc.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/05/Deepkin-5333.jpg

[cunning wigeon]

Soulrender my beloved

Shame mor'phann have shit rules

Love the lore and look of them

Death realm deepkin

[wind flicker]

God their models are so pretty

[cunning wigeon]

Ignore the akhelian thrallmasters hat

[wind flicker]

Yea i see it

Lol

[cunning wigeon]

Replaces the head of mine with a morrsarr prince

Looks cooler

[storm jungle]

THEY JUST

SHOOT FISH AT YOU

YEET

[wind flicker]

You call throwing fish a martial art

"hey, as long as it works"

[atomic pelican]

One thing I wish Idoneth would get

Is a actual sea serpent

[cunning wigeon]

The lore for that is funny too, enemy just see the fish swimming through the air and just think wtf so bad they ignore the rest of the idoneth symptoms

[atomic pelican]

The leviadon I loce

But I want a big ass traditional sea monster

A kraken or serpent

[cunning wigeon]

Mor'phann have a cool animal in lore that is like a giant shark octopus thing

I want a model of that

[atomic pelican]

Theres a kraken mentioned in the new tome as a relic

Kraken's Fang

[cunning wigeon]

Yeah! Honestly seeing their dedication to Mathlann I'd kill for a centrepiece that is the giant fish that defended ulthuan

Forgot it's name

[atomic pelican]

Amanar

[wind flicker]

Shoggoth snake

[cunning wigeon]

That's the one

Giant fish fella

The eidolons look great too

[wind flicker]

I wonder how difficult an idoneth cosplay would be

[cunning wigeon]

With lore and rules to match

[atomic pelican]

I like the Eidolon and such

I do wish Lore of the Deeps was a bit better

Most of the spells seem kind of lackluster

But then again, not a super magic focused army

Im used to Tzeentch spells and DoK prayers so

[wind flicker]

Floating fish is pretty magical

[cunning wigeon]

Yeah but they don't think about that

Just sorta happens

The worst thing about being an idoneth is the constant taste of salt in your mouth

Imagine that gets old rather quickly

[wind flicker]

Love me salt

[cunning wigeon]

Then you're in the right place

Oh yeah @atomic pelican any new lore in the 3rd ed DoK tome?

[atomic pelican]

Not sure if its new since I didnt have the 2nd ed one but theres alot I found rlly neat

For example, Morathi killed the Queen of the Kraith because she questioned Morathi's godhood

And there are cracks in the temples unity

Many question her godhood, and there is a shadowy group called uhh

The Crone's Eyes

[cunning wigeon]

Oooh cool name

[atomic pelican]

Who believe her to be a heretic

Which she is

Since Morathi claims to be Khaine reborn, she is not

[cunning wigeon]

Yeah she fucked up khaines attempt at genuine resurrection too right?

[atomic pelican]

The anti-Morathi group is hunted by the Shadoestalkers and Melusai

[atomic pelican]

I dont think so, the Crone Eyes say that there is no ressurection prophecy

That Morathi just invented it

Theres also some new syuff that says the Shadow Queen is developing a mind and will of its own

Beyond Morathi's control

[cunning wigeon]

Yeah but didn't she steal the last of khaines essence to become a goddess?

[atomic pelican]

Yeees

She still holds his ironheart

Where it is

[cunning wigeon]

Ooooooh

Now that sounds neat

[atomic pelican]

The Shadow Queen occasionally just runs off into the shadows of Ulgu and concerns Morathi since it could get both of them killed

[cunning wigeon]

Still love that some fucking random elven prince fucked her up that bad she got split in two bodies

[atomic pelican]

LMAO YEAH

The book also mentions that the old statues of Khaine are being torn down and replaced with statues of her

Wonder if they will ever update the Avatar models

For that

[cunning wigeon]

I would want it to be Aenerion but I'm fairly certain his soul got evaporated and slaanesh definitely couldn't contain that much Chad soul energy

[atomic pelican]

In the book it mentions that its alot of souls that tear her apatt

Aenarion makes alot of sense tho

[cunning wigeon]

This is for making my son a weirdo

[atomic pelican]

LMAO

[cunning wigeon]

Even if he is more of a Chad now than in the world that was

[atomic pelican]

Another neat bit I found was that, Morathi makes Ironscales with magic resistance but ensures her magic still works on them

[cunning wigeon]

An avatar where it's morathi would look sick

[atomic pelican]

Which implies even the highest ranking Melusai could revolt

Yessss

[cunning wigeon]

Oh that is neat

I always thought they were almost completely enthralled

[atomic pelican]

Im betting there's gonna be a big split in the DoK later on

[cunning wigeon]

Probably with the Umbraneth release

Since they also worship Khaine right?

[atomic pelican]

Ironscales and Melusai are born of Morathi's magic but they arent thralls

Umbraneth probably worship Malerion since hes a full on God

[cunning wigeon]

But does Malerion no longer workshop Khaine?

[atomic pelican]

Nah

I dont think so

[cunning wigeon]

I guess once youre a god it looks weird worshipping others

[atomic pelican]

He probably knows that Khaine is dead-dead

And can see thru his mother's ruse

[cunning wigeon]

Like nurgles weird ass obsession with Allariele

[atomic pelican]

LMAO yeah

[cunning wigeon]

I'd love to see the kurnothi developed more too

[atomic pelican]

Same. Theyre rlly neat. I kind of hope Kurnoth is revived

Very sad that he died in fluff before the setting rlly started as a game

[cunning wigeon]

Yeah same, his spear was saved so maybe there is hope

[atomic pelican]

Yessss

[cunning wigeon]

But his followers are just so bad ass

[atomic pelican]

Also hes Kurnous, known for rebirth

Just like Alarielle

[cunning wigeon]

Didn't even think about that

Man literally died every year in the world that was

[atomic pelican]

Yep LMAO

I would love for him to be back so Alarielle could feel better + special rules for running them together

[cunning wigeon]

If he came back that would be so hype

[atomic pelican]

I also hope the Wanderers and Sylvaneth reconcile

[cunning wigeon]

Oh god synergy rules would be sick

[atomic pelican]

Yessss

[cunning wigeon]

"Darling, may I have my javelin back?"

[atomic pelican]

I wouldve rlly liked if it was Kurnous who saved Alarielle instead of Sigmar

One Day i hope he returms

[cunning wigeon]

They were like married or something right?

[atomic pelican]

Yeees

King and Queen

[cunning wigeon]

Thought so

Didn't he die in a badass battle Vs a giant Nurgle army with some of his followers

[atomic pelican]

Yeep

He died and then a brancmaiden brought his spear to Alarielle

And thats what made her lose hope and sob

[cunning wigeon]

Sadrielle

[atomic pelican]

Leading to the severe fucking of Ghyran(not that it wasnt already doing badly)

[cunning wigeon]

And now she is madrielle

[atomic pelican]

Yesss

[cunning wigeon]

Song of war time

[atomic pelican]

Alarielle is probably one of the most tragic Gods

Shes lost so much

[cunning wigeon]

The fact that alot of the new models all reference kurnoth some how is a good sign

[atomic pelican]

Yesss

I kind of hope Kurnous comes back as like a hyper elite, character, kurnoth hunter

[cunning wigeon]

From the spiteclaws resembling wild riders to the lady having kurnotheal as her weapon

[atomic pelican]

Oh yess

I will say thats because the free spirits are echoes of wood elf souls tho

The revenants and such

[cunning wigeon]

And wants the least, she just wants ghyran to be left the fuck alone

[atomic pelican]

Yepp

Shes also one of the few who had to brunt the age of chaos p much alone

[cunning wigeon]

It also mentions the dragon Spites survived the fall of the old world and remember it vividly

[atomic pelican]

Yessss its great

[cunning wigeon]

With their annoying brimming with life rule description

[atomic pelican]

LMAO

[cunning wigeon]

Full heal time

[atomic pelican]

My partner is hype for that

Full heal on a army where you can revive models at 1w

Or rally on 5s

[cunning wigeon]

Revenant armies will certainly be better off

Good too because I hate the dryad models

[atomic pelican]

Kurnoth hunters and revenants def

Yeah dryads are ugly

We have to get 10 of them just for the Lady of Vine's free summon

[cunning wigeon]

Love the lore stuff between sylvaneth and idoneth, sad they removed some of their combo stuff

[atomic pelican]

Yep rip

No more Ionrach ally shenanigans

[cunning wigeon]

Giving a tree man first strike was funny

[atomic pelican]

Well, now they can fight last enemies on a 3+

[cunning wigeon]

True

[atomic pelican]

I also rlly love new Envoy of the everqueen

Even tho its a 4+

[cunning wigeon]

I can see kurnoth coming back as a character but I wonder what the synergy would be with Allariele lore wise

She is currently full war mode

[atomic pelican]

Tru

[cunning wigeon]

And he is known to be head strong

I'd appreciate it if they made him come back as his spring form so he is more like "let's just chill out and think about this rationally"

Becuase if he was summer form he'd just be like "yass queen let's invade the eight points whilst we're at it"

[atomic pelican]

LMAO

Is Katakros still fightint at the 8points

[cunning wigeon]

Nah Archaon kicked him out

[atomic pelican]

Ahh

[cunning wigeon]

But I see it as a win

If Archaon needs to show up then you know you did something right

[atomic pelican]

Got a snippet of Archaon and Katakros fighting

Surviving vs Archaon is always a win

[cunning wigeon]

Plus it didn't help that Nagash fucked off and the light twins did their dumb war for hope in Hyish

[atomic pelican]

LMAO

[cunning wigeon]

"ah yes let's fight for hope in the realm of the dead and dying"

How could it back fire

[atomic pelican]

Shows up, rides boulders, topples your statues

Leaves

[cunning wigeon]

God I hope a Legion is sent into Hyish

Fuck those light twins

Pick your battles

[atomic pelican]

Throws Arkhan off a realm

LMAO

Rip a real boneboy

[cunning wigeon]

I think the Null Myriad are the main reason the obr pulled out of eight points aside from Archaon

[atomic pelican]

Katakros is like the only responsible Mortarch left

[cunning wigeon]

They got mad Arkhan got fucked so left

[atomic pelican]

LMAO

[cunning wigeon]

Literally, the two vampires couldn't care less

Arkan gone

[atomic pelican]

Nagash no longer around to handout spankings for the time

[cunning wigeon]

Katakros was just pretending everything was fine for ages

[atomic pelican]

LMAO

I wonder who will help Nagash ressurect

Since usually its Arkhan

[cunning wigeon]

I think he doesn't need to much help thanks the necroaquake and Shyishian Nadir

Just time and some peace and quiet

[atomic pelican]

Also Im still hoping they revive the Arkhan-Neferata Romance that The Real Housewives of Shyish needs

Tru

[cunning wigeon]

Ah yes the best ship

[atomic pelican]

What are the chances that Mannfred tries to sabotage again

[cunning wigeon]

Im still a fan of Katakros having a bromance with Arkham and admiring Lady Olynder

She freed the man

[atomic pelican]

Oh yes

[cunning wigeon]

And her wraiths were his hand maidens for a bit

Sounds like potential for sauce to me

Given he is still pretty sane so I don't rate his chances at looking beneath her veil but hey ho

Sane for a mortarch anyway

not a high bar

Nagash even made Luther Harkon a mortarch and that man was completely fucked

[alpine ingot]

Archon Urlock Gaur is the lord of the Blood pact. A Chaos Space Marine at that.

Also Jesus christ I guess I missed a fair bit since I got off my lunch break.

[wind flicker]

Yeah welcome back 5 people got banned

[humble lynx]

It’s a slow day

[barren tapir]

5? I stopped at 3! Who are the last 2?

[wind flicker]

I dont even remember they said like 2 things

[alpine ingot]

I get hating end times... but, you can read and separate the setting of AOS and old Fantasy if you want. I do not see why that was enough to set the first guy off the rails.

I guess people just like being mad

Wait this is a 40k server, of course people joining this discord like being mad to some extent.

[wind flicker]

True

[tender igloo]

Fantasy is still my all time favorite warhammer setting, but I always liked chaos in 40k much more. It always felt like it had more dimension to it over fantasy where they were just Viking raiders who wanted to pillage and destroy the world of man just because.

Archaon excluded from that of course.

[plush mason]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/823661595884257340/984223061790302228/v12025gd0000caged8jc77ub9d0qigqg.mp4

[vapid tiger]

Delete this

literally just

READ

LEXICANUM

[plush mason]

lol

he is right tho

they are just an army of rambos

[atomic pelican]

This tiktok man is one of the few lore video ppl I can tolerate

Mostly because the format forces him to be fast

And not drag

[plush mason]

weswarhammer iirc

[tender igloo]

i also really enjoy arbitor ian. his video on the badab war is pretty good, simply because it was only 25 minutes and explained it very concisely and quickly.

instead of droning on for like 10 hours on 1 minor part

[storm jungle]

Or in short

don't pay your taxes kids

[alpine ingot]

Big D that you?

[storm jungle]

[plush mason]

hm. having dark angels and space wolves in the same deathwatch kill team must make for some interesting banter/team dynamics

which leads me to the question of how the deathwatch deals with such chapter rivalries

[viral vessel]

I thought all chapter rivalries and other backgrounds are dropped/essentially postponed for the duration of their tour with the Deathwatch.

Their past identities don't matter in the Deathwatch.

[alpine ingot]

These are space marines, that shit is ingrained into their Geneseed at this point. No they tolerate one another, hell given enough time they tend to bond, but the rivalry will always pop up in some minor form.

Vox tenebrus does a decent job showing this off in audio drama format.

[plush mason]

i see

so it really would only effect the banter more or less lol

[dry current]

https://tenor.com/view/monkey-mojothemonkey-zzsoobn-monkey-sleep-sleepy-gif-22926696

[alpine ingot]

yeah, Dark Angels and Space Wolves would go at it constantly. It's also why veteran DA's are usually tasked with overseeing any Blood Claws from the SW's that join the Death Watch kill team

when they work together, rather than against one another you end up with getting something quite amazing.

[plush mason]

like what kind of combat do the DA specialize in anyway?

[steep swan]

depends, The Deathwing, The Ravenwing, and the remaining 8 companies fight very differently

they are THE all rounders, they were the first Legion, fought with Big E before any others existed,

[plush mason]

i see

[hushed kayak]

does anyone realize the Eldar in some sense, are librarians in a literal sense?

The black Library is made by Eldars

[steep swan]

Nice try Alpharius, nobody is giving up the secrets of the Black Library that easy 😎

[storm jungle]

It's just one craftworld that is the Black Library so

💀

[hushed kayak]

with every knowledge in history

[storm jungle]

Yes.

Thats a library.

https://tenor.com/view/library-books-librarian-eyeglasses-gif-15931776

[hushed kayak]

[cunning wigeon]

I can appreciate that he tries to be quick and concise but he also has 40k induced brainrot to the extreme, he's claimed before that 40k has the highest "power level" (whatever the fuck that means) compared to any other sci fi series

[fierce pendant]

why do people argue about it even, what does it matter when all these settings are fictional e-e

[cunning wigeon]

yeah exactly

I think they equate their settings "power" to the settings worth or something

[dry epoch]

It’s fun to have competing ideologies in a Deathwatch squad.

[hushed kayak]

All sci-fi has some crazy shit tbh

[storm jungle]

Yeah like

[cunning wigeon]

Yeah exactly

[storm jungle]

people boast about 40k's power levels

[fierce pendant]

ye

[storm jungle]

when your average star trek crewman phaser can insta-kill an astartes

[cunning wigeon]

or in destiny where your average guardian may as well be a god

[storm jungle]

LOL YEAH

so 40k has enough settings to be basically equals really

but this is mostly an effect/leftover from the mid 2000's era of 40k

where the star wars salt for the setting was really bad

like im talking constant

[hushed kayak]

people really sleep on Destiny lore

[fierce pendant]

the surge of youtube videos comparing the two...

[storm jungle]

YEP

also memes

[cunning wigeon]

oh I was really not aware of this

[cunning wigeon]

absolutely, probably because of the whole grimoire card thing in destiny 1

[storm jungle]

Yeah the mid 2000's 40k was fucking bad

[fierce pendant]

damn that will be a good bait now that I think about it

[cunning wigeon]

where they just bitching about star wars the whole time or comparing 40 to star wars?

[fierce pendant]

talking about star wars in general chat channel after the trailer drops

mmm

[storm jungle]

want a trip down memory lane

https://i.pinimg.com/550x/81/12/92/811292a1d4f7cd6ea009ecce9e730036.jpg

https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/711/674/853.jpg

https://img-9gag-fun.9cache.com/photo/aGj1GMK_460s.jpg

[hushed kayak]

yeah, but it kinda piss me half the time because they didn’t know what they were talking about sometimes. Because back then they had “indie writers”

[cunning wigeon]

oh yeah, much more concise nowadays

[hushed kayak]

for real

[cunning wigeon]

and thanks dilara, you've just taken years off my life

[storm jungle]

You're welcome

🙏

also man back when I thought 40k's lore was complex, then I see destiny's plot

[cunning wigeon]

paracausality do be a bitch

[storm jungle]

Destiny's space magic is so weird

AAAA

[dry epoch]

Warframe has amazing lore.

[cunning wigeon]

gets worse depending on which faction we're talking

[storm jungle]

Warframe and Destiny lore are on par yeah

the actual game just sucks

[hushed kayak]

again i blame the writers on that

[cunning wigeon]

most guardians just manipulate light

hive are just wtf witch magic

[hushed kayak]

dark magic lol

[cunning wigeon]

stasis is fucking entropy incarnate

[storm jungle]

I love how like

they give these magic powers the most silly name

but the actual lore for it is dark af

[cunning wigeon]

or super edgy names for simple concepts

like the hive have "sword logic"

which is just survival of the fittest lol

[storm jungle]

Lmao yeah

then you got lads like Rhulk, who makes chaos champions look like chumps

https://tenor.com/view/rhulk-disciple-of-the-witness-rhulk-kicked-ratio-destiny2-gif-25063797

[hushed kayak]

especially void, jesus

[shadow plover]

Warframe is the most played game on my steam account and I couldn't care less for it's lore or story

[dry epoch]

Destiny was a lot of fun. Then D2 happened and it all went wrong. Warframe desperately needs raids to make it better.

[cunning wigeon]

the guy who we only beat because he didnt bother taking us seriously

[storm jungle]

YUP

but also sick track so

https://youtu.be/1Nb3RIVb_hM?t=394

[cunning wigeon]

the new lore for caitl and calus made me sad though

[shadow plover]

Is it worth it to restart playing D2 after only playing it through once or twice back when it released

[cunning wigeon]

why the fuck he kill her dog like that

[storm jungle]

Kinda

[hushed kayak]

warframe lore is just amazing, i wish they focus the story a bit harder than the content grind. Which if you’re a veteran, it’s as dry as a mofo out here

[storm jungle]

they removed stuff like the Red War

[shadow plover]

Don't I have to buy like gazillion expansions

[storm jungle]

which is a bit like 40k erasing the horus heresy from existence

and you got no idea what the fuck is happening

[storm jungle]

Yes.

[shadow plover]

[hushed kayak]

half the expansions are useless lol

[storm jungle]

^

[shadow plover]

lovely

[cunning wigeon]

yeah being a new player getting into destiny is a nightmare

[shadow plover]

what the fuck was the red war

[hushed kayak]

so far it’s beyond light and witch queen dlcs you really want. Because the story just went UP

[cunning wigeon]

red legion (cabal special forces( cabal being space rhino warriors that destroy everything)) came to the last city, blocked the light for a while, killed most of the guardians and wiped out half the city

[shadow plover]

Only thing I know about the story anymore is that the funny robot man died

[storm jungle]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/417382962489720873/964153850586087424/ezgif-4-5dc2db4df3.mp4

[cunning wigeon]

on a side not caitl is badass

[storm jungle]

Caitl is ❤️

space rhino gf

[hushed kayak]

man HOW TF ARE GUARDIANS STRUGGLING WITH THIS SHIT

[shadow plover]

wait so the main story of D2

[cunning wigeon]

wanna be broken over knee like that traitor cutscene?

[storm jungle]

LMAO

[storm jungle]

honestly the Red War I can kinda get, they'd have probably repelled the invasion if Gaul didnt chastity-caged the Traveller

[cunning wigeon]

yup

called the red war

[shadow plover]

and it was removed?

[storm jungle]

yep

for space i assume

now you get a new tutorial

which sucks

[cunning wigeon]

along with the first year of dlc

[shadow plover]

yeah I remember discourse about that

lmao so I can't even play the first expansions

[storm jungle]

Its hilarious because the Red War is literally the Siege of Terra of destiny 2 and an incredibly important plot point

[cunning wigeon]

you dont want to

they were all shit

[hushed kayak]

that was the very few times we saw the guardians at their lowest. The other two were the hive and siva stuff

[storm jungle]

Yeaaaaah

it just fluctuates

[cunning wigeon]

and uhh with house of devils

[shadow plover]

so how many expansions are there that I can play

[hushed kayak]

we don’t talk about that dlc

[shadow plover]

I think I actually played the first dlcs

house of devils sounds familiar

[cunning wigeon]

nah i just mean in the lore, house of devils with the battle of twilight guardians barely won

and the city got fucked in the process

then saint 14 went and became the doomslayer to the fallen

[hushed kayak]

my bad lol

i thought you said house of wolves

[cunning wigeon]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MH_Tnpx332U

[hushed kayak]

no they got their ass BEAT

[cunning wigeon]

kell of kells my ass

[hushed kayak]

Lord Saladin past scene was amazing

i was actually surprised they did my boy justice

[cunning wigeon]

the iron lords were badass as fuck

||which makes sense given Felwinter was a warmind in exo body||

[storm jungle]

Are iron lords basically the techno-barbarians of Destiny 2

[cunning wigeon]

they were the first guardians to guard

they are responsible for the last city being made

[hushed kayak]

techno/space wolves

[storm jungle]

oooh

[cunning wigeon]

as they defended the fuck out of the small human tribes in the area

[shadow plover]

are there any new factions

[cunning wigeon]

their lore is exceptionally badass

[hushed kayak]

Besides the “darkness”

[cunning wigeon]

to fight or in general?

[shadow plover]

to fight

[cunning wigeon]

we now have the lucent brood, hive with the power of the light

after killing them you need to kill their ghost otherwise they respawn like a guardian

[shadow plover]

😩 of course there is "the hive but different"

[cunning wigeon]

and they can use supers

[hushed kayak]

that and my best answer is “darkness”

[cunning wigeon]

acolytes can use blade barrage, knights sentinel shield and wizards stormtrance

[shadow plover]

so they're dark souls npc invaders basically

[cunning wigeon]

kinda

[hushed kayak]

i can see where you’re coming from lol

[cunning wigeon]

I believe they are probably just tests for how guardian vs guardian combat will be in lightfall

i bet my ass we fight dark guardians

[hushed kayak]

well seeing how they kept teasing that in season of the lost

probably

[cunning wigeon]

im just having a blast with solar 3.0

made hunter more fun for pve

[hushed kayak]

the only problem i have with it as a warlock main

[cunning wigeon]

cant see anything through the infinite grenades?

thats my problem with having warlock team mates atm

[hushed kayak]

THEY TOOK MY HEALING GRENADE TO ITS OWN THING

i can’t do any alts with it

that’s my only problem

[cunning wigeon]

yeah they buffed heal warlocks in a patch I think, or said they would next patch

i just find it funny how the new warlock can essnetially be a d1 sunsinger with their absurd grenade cooldown

[hushed kayak]

i would like it if you can alternate between them. That was the niche of a solar warlock

[cunning wigeon]

its also funny how with a buff now called radiant, well of radiance doesnt make you radiant

[hushed kayak]

with how a disgusting build you can damage in pve. This is d1sunsinger fusion all over again

[cunning wigeon]

was worried theyd bring the self res back with solar 3.0

thank fuck they didnt

there are enough warlocks in raids as is

[hushed kayak]

HAH i hated that super in pve and pvp

y’know how many times i get 1 hit melee in trials??

[dry epoch]

I keep thinking of going back to D2 but every time I’ve ventured into it I just don’t feel it any more

[cunning wigeon]

shoulder charge titan with twilight garrison running towards you at mach speed will always induce sheer terror

[hushed kayak]

the thing is, it’ll be a nightmare to grind if you’re a new player. Just like warframe it’ll be exhausting, but warframe is a bit nice on that part

[dry epoch]

I go through Warframe peaks and troughs. I love the lore and I love certain elements of it but I’m not great at grind.

[hushed kayak]

bro that and the one exotic that gave them overshield

[dry epoch]

My attention span skips off.

[hushed kayak]

oh boy, darktide is gonna be like that since it’s a live service game that’ll you need to grind

[dry epoch]

Some days I can grind like a champ. Other days I need more.

[hushed kayak]

nah that was me like in warframe as well

[cunning wigeon]

probably not as big of a deal gameplay loop wise

destiny is held up because its gunplay is just solid

if darktide is like vermintide it'll be fun for the challenge factor and quick progression

[hushed kayak]

gets ptsd from D1 low legendary and exotic drops before taken king

[cunning wigeon]

three of coins was the best thing d1 did

[dry epoch]

We used to have fun with the Destiny raids, but we played for fun and didn’t mind repeatedly dying. I miss those days.

[hushed kayak]

and they took it away maaan. Then again it’s not like D1

speaking of raids cheesing crotas end was the best experience with my friends

also vault

[cunning wigeon]

yeah exotics are either super common now or behind the heroic lost sectors

OMG

thank you for reminding me of doing that with my mates

"oh yeah it'll be easy 30 mins tops"

[hushed kayak]

THE SWORD

and the dc loop lol

[cunning wigeon]

hour later still trying some dumb sword jump cheese

[dry epoch]

Was it the Vault that had that annoying jumping puzzle bit? I am DIRE at anything involving jumping.

[hushed kayak]

you either hand a good hunter or a warlock because of the jumps

[dry epoch]

The number of times I fell screaming to my death

Guardian all the way here

[hushed kayak]

did the platform keep disappearing

[dry epoch]

That sounds familiar

🙂

[hushed kayak]

probably vault lol

[dry epoch]

And those moments where someone would briefly go afk and we would push their stationary body to the edge of the map… then push them off. Small pleasures.

[hushed kayak]

https://tenor.com/view/antonio-banderas-oh-sweet-impressed-not-bad-gif-9592821

nostalgia man

[cunning wigeon]

if i dare go afk now my titan mate just shoulder charges me into a wall and lets the architects kill me

[dry epoch]

Like the old days of Overwatch when you could drop your Symmetra portal at the edge of a map.

[hushed kayak]

old overwatch was amazing they had something. Now they just ruined it, i hope Gundam Evolution succeeds. where overwatch failed

[dry epoch]

I still love me my OW. Never have I owned a game that I hate and love in equal measure.

[hushed kayak]

closest to that was counter strike

[cunning wigeon]

for me siege

over 3k hours on all my accounts

[hushed kayak]

bro you too?

[cunning wigeon]

yup, played in a 5 stack with friends from highschool at the time

[hushed kayak]

i hate blitz and cav

i never understand why they exist, when they’ll get ban most of the time

[cunning wigeon]

blitz absoultely

cav was just a meme pick

anyone with a mic countered her

I remember only myself and one other friend were any good at it

[shadow plover]

Siege was so good during the pre-season 1 and season 1 era

all went to shit

[cunning wigeon]

we only peaked plat because the others we played with being average

[cunning wigeon]

year 1 and 2 were alright

where we had the most fun anyway

afterwards was a complete mess

[shadow plover]

when ranked opened me and the boys had a 87 game win streak

good times

[hushed kayak]

i enjoy playing fuze, Kapkan, and dokkabei

[cunning wigeon]

haha when we opened our pc accounts we went on a massive win streak

I was used to controller and still peaked plat so playing on pc with a mouse was easy as fuck, was like finally being able to properly aim

played the shit out of thatcher, mute, smoke

SAS are too chad for me to resist

[hushed kayak]

the russians were so enjoyable, tachanka was such a meme

[cunning wigeon]

later days i was our roamer, played vigil so much in defense

[shadow plover]

Jäger AGOC and enemy team wipe in 10 seconds was the jam

[cunning wigeon]

dokkaebi, thatcher, maverick or nook depeding who was banned on attack

[hushed kayak]

i feel bad for players that plays doc at the time lol

[shadow plover]

too bad the stat trackers only started working after operation health

[cunning wigeon]

dont, my friend did just for the acog mp5 and would ace almost every round

[shadow plover]

or rather season trackers, stats are all correct

ROOK was my goto after jäger lost his agoc

[cunning wigeon]

yeah my friend went doc

so fucking tanky

never saw him heal many people

[hushed kayak]

OMG THE ACOG SCOPE ON THE BOSG

what a trend

[cunning wigeon]

hahah we had a bugged lobby once where the bosg had 3 shots

two shells loaded in the bottom barrel

[shadow plover]

[hushed kayak]

i’ve never seen an ash play time like that even the kd. Jesus

[shadow plover]

She was the early seasons killer

everyone hated her for it

[shadow plover]

ah, yes. 40kLore

I do miss the old siege

[cunning wigeon]

more than anything

but it isnt that game anymore

and it never will be again

miss playing with all my mates but thats in the past

[cunning wigeon]

channels are suggestions here in darktide

[signal hill]

I know that Feeling from dead cells, but it actually became good again :P

[upbeat arch]

Yall guys i got a lore question

Almost done reading The Lord of the Night and i know most of it is not canon

But there’s a part where he’s talking about that time Curze tried to warn Fulgrim about the Heresy and then Dorn tried to fuck with him and Curze beat the shit out of him

But then Sahaal says that Curze ran away and someone sent an imperial assassin to try to kill Curze

Did that last part actually happen canonically?

[storm jungle]

Curze gets killed by a Callidius Assassin yeah, its how he dies

[upbeat arch]

This was pre-heresy

Sahaal is trying to make the point that the emperor turned on Curze long before the heresy

[storm jungle]

Later a campaign with the Imperial Fists and Emperor's Children in the Cheraut System he learned of the renewed crime and anarchy on his homeworld. Falling into anguish, the Night Haunter tried to confide in his brother Primarchs Fulgrim and Rogal Dorn, but they had never been close to them in the beginning, and their reaction was less than favourable to his claims. When Fulgrim revealed Curze had told him of disturbing visions of civil war, Dorn confronted the Night Haunter on the matter. Finally snapping from Fulgrim's betrayal of confidence Curze attacked and wounded Dorn as well as massacring several Imperial Fists that were guarding him before taking the Night Lords fleet to Nostramo. A few Imperial pursuit craft arrived just in time to see the Night Lords' laser batteries firing into the hole left by Night Haunter's arrival decades earlier. Nostramo's core overheated and the world exploded.

After this Curze wasnt really declared a Traitor and more was just recalled by the Emperor to answer for the charges against him

before the Night Lords reached Terra tho the Heresy broke out and Curze threw his lot in with the Dropside Massacre

...I dont really remember any assassin claims around this period

[upbeat arch]

It would make sense that was the final straw that broke him entirely…

[storm jungle]

Yeah that was when he pretty much went "FUCK ALL YALL"

then the chaos corruption started

[upbeat arch]

Hey, curze hated chaos

I like to imagine while horus was embracing the whispers of chaos, listening to everythinf they said

Curze is just sitting on his throne of sewn bodies like “can somebody make these people scream louder to drown out these annoying chaos gods?”

[vapid tiger]

you can hate chaos while also still being corrupted by it

see ahriman, angron, perturabo, archaon in fantasy

[rose thorn]

idk if this is 40k lore specifically, but how the fuck would a like, laser mining drill even work?

like, i feel like it would just be a waste of energy and health hazard to mine with a laser then a drill

[wind flicker]

youd have it turn the material you dont want into dust

so you can extract it wit hair

[dusk knot]

the main problem with lasers is heat dissipates quickly

[wind flicker]

instead of having to manually remove it

[rose thorn]

wouldnt that risk damaging some materials you would want?

[wind flicker]

not if you use the right temperature and the right strata

[rose thorn]

fair

[wind flicker]

like if you were mining iron in limestone

[rose thorn]

i think im more concerned because it can be used to fucking melt tanks and space marine armor, i get the imperium is fucking retarded but if you are any wroied at all with a revolt whyw ould you give them tools that are stronger then fucking meltas

i mean people arent told about genestealer cults

[bright anvil]

Horus heresy Ahriman is a cool dude

[atomic pelican]

Mining lasers arent stronger than actual meltas + assume the ones wielded as weapons have been tampered with too

This is even represented on tt as stratagem

Overloaded fuel cells

[wind flicker]

ahriman 💦

[rose thorn]

ah okay makes sense

[storm jungle]

GSC basically do the DRG shit of "We gotta upgrade these tools to kill shit"

[atomic pelican]

Yeeee

Also the mining lasers they wield arent hand ones

They are mounted

[wind flicker]

delicious laz0r

[atomic pelican]

Thats why it takes a acolyte to carry them

[rose thorn]

I would ask why it seems so easily to cause a revolt but oh yeah GSCs have been in the makings for decades

[atomic pelican]

Basically impossible to wholly disarm a population, esp when ur as bureucratically backwards as the Imperium

[storm jungle]

Also being ruled over by actual fascists helps

[atomic pelican]

Yeee

[storm jungle]

yep LOL

[atomic pelican]

If it wasnt mining tools, theyd be cutting down guardsmen with pipe wrenches and plungers

Tools needed for work turned to deadly tasks

[shadow plover]

"arm the miners so the cults won't bother them!"

[atomic pelican]

LMAO

[rose thorn]

EHHAHAHA

for some reason when vever i think of the GSCs i think of the Pitt dlc for fallout 3

[atomic pelican]

Ive always imagined that most of the damage GSC cause early on is infastructural

Kind of hard to fight when all the workers below you have turned off all your sewage systems

And food supply

Since they sort of embed in the lower castes of the Imperium, which like real life, are the actual backbone

[storm jungle]

Can't believe the Planetary Governor's car exploded due to cut brakes

[atomic pelican]

LMAO

[storm jungle]

Also yeah what Proud said

the upper caste get the benefit but its always the lower folk that do the job

[twin shoal]

its those electric cars surprisingly flammable

[atomic pelican]

The most resistance cultures to GSC are those that treat their 'lowers' well

So

Tau

LMAO

[rose thorn]

hey so, im not sure if im thinking of 40k or AOS but theres custom rules for campaigns, like artifacts and stratagems only in campaign mode

[twin shoal]

must be a musk built one

[atomic pelican]

Which is why the tau dont have a major GSC problem

[rose thorn]

But how would GSCs work in a campaign setting?

[atomic pelican]

For both yes

GSC have crusade rules

[rose thorn]

AHHH crusade thats it

[atomic pelican]

P much ebery 9e book has special narrative

GSC subvert worlds by taking over chunks of their culture

I have taken 3/4ths of a world in our LGS Crusade

It takes awhile

Path to Ascension is what its called

[shadow plover]

yeah crusade game narratives are NOT quick in general

[atomic pelican]

Yeee

[rose thorn]

OohHHh, so its more like rallying people to the cults cause?

[atomic pelican]

Tho it depends alot on the army

[atomic pelican]

P much

[shadow plover]

we started one and played for half a year with 4 people but never got to more than 100PL games

[atomic pelican]

You get bonuses for every planet you take

Tbf 100pl is a good cap

Since games beyond 2kpts(or 100pl) take ages

[shadow plover]

well two of us got to 100pl

[atomic pelican]

Ah

[rose thorn]

thats actually really fucking cool

[atomic pelican]

Like, GSC takes forever to complete their narrative objective but Harlequins can get a grand performance done in like 3 games

Doesnt rlly matter since its just fun narrative stuff but its funny

[shadow plover]

SM was really boring to play crusade with tbh, no real special rules

curse of the early codex

[atomic pelican]

Probably will get them with the 2nd SM codex

[shadow plover]

most likely

[atomic pelican]

CWE's crusade rules are boring as hell

Sadly

Their entire narrative basically just lets them turn units into other units and thats It

[rose thorn]

I was gonna ask chaos daemons crusader rules but their codex aged like milk

[atomic pelican]

They dont have crusade rules I'd assume

Beyond the general

[shadow plover]

SM is pretty much the same but only with characters

[atomic pelican]

Guard didnt either until a small supplement but they still only have like just a crusade rel8c

No narrative

[rose thorn]

'wow you mean yuou have all the fluff text of AOS with all the confusing rules of 40k???"

[shadow plover]

Guard will get proper crusade rules once their 9th ed codex drops

[rose thorn]

"IN THE FUCKING STAT BLOCKS"

[supple plume]

They better

[twin shoal]

you are tolate ive already put dilara into a stat block

[final spruce]

Lmao

[supple plume]

Guard needs some love

[final spruce]

They do y

[supple plume]

And not only cadia

[atomic pelican]

Crusade is genuinely the best way to play 40k

It reignited my interest in playinf

Crusade gets comically busted the higher you go but everyone does

[shadow plover]

it has rather many rules and quirks to remember but it's fun yeah

[rose thorn]

Im worried tbecause im a chaos fan, so i jsut expect to get fucked every step of the way

[atomic pelican]

I have a Solitaire at s8, ap-5, dmg 3 who can run like 24" on average durinf his blitz

[shadow plover]

though I do prefer one off matched play matches

[rose thorn]

like the book s

[atomic pelican]

Just wait until codex CSM in July

[rose thorn]

'wow the only chaos books i can enjoy with out eating shit every step of teh way is the HH books'

[atomic pelican]

The Chaos Knight crusade narrative is rlly cool so I imagine CSM will be good too

[rose thorn]

OH yeah ive been thinkinga bout getting knights of chaos knights

[shadow plover]

Chaos Knights got a real fun codex in general

[atomic pelican]

Yeeee

[rose thorn]

ive heard they are really fun

[atomic pelican]

They still struggle to win but thwyre rlly cool

I would say a CSK is good as a supplement to a CSM army tho for sure

[rose thorn]

ive done research and the most fun way to play them is just to make your own house lore wise to paint htem

but yeah why is most of the hcaos knights lore kinda

mid

not counting you know

[shadow plover]

relatively new faction

[atomic pelican]

Yeah, Knights as a whole dont rlly have alot of lore?

[rose thorn]

the uhhh, free lance knights

[shadow plover]

with not that interesting 8th ed codex

in 8th the Chaos Knights were pretty much just tacked on imperial knights for chaos

[rose thorn]

ah

OH YEAH HAVEYOU HEARD LAND TRAINS ARE COMING BACK???

[atomic pelican]

Les goo

[rose thorn]

FUCK YEAHHHHHHHHHHHHH

[shadow plover]

saw some leaks about them being confirmed, just a mention in a stratagem or something. Nothing concrete yet sadly

[rose thorn]

'So you have 2000 points of land trains?

'and nothing else?'

'yes'

[atomic pelican]

Yeah the Votann strat cards leaked

[storm jungle]

https://youtu.be/GR7I2D6ENrA

[full nebula]

Fun fact I learnt recently; The collars on Primaris armour and Mk VIII Errant armour was made primarily to remove Shot Traps

Basically, aiming below the head had a chance for the bullet to bounce back upwards into a softer piece of armour

[final spruce]

So like 14th century plate armour

[full nebula]

Maybe? I am unfamilar with plate armour ^^'

Tanks are a good example as well though, that Id know

[steep rover]

Ya theyre gorgets. plate armor had them as well for the same reason 🙂

[rigid cloak]

I love the 'friendly' UI

Is it just me or is the psyker in this trailer a different one to the story trailer?

[next willow]

seems to be the same, the lighting might change how he looks to you, or some of the details of the outfit might have changed?

[rigid cloak]

Accent appears to be german. Hand skin tone is different, but this is probs just an oversight. After some thinking i think its just a few detail oversights.

[wind flicker]

Its the lighting and them using skins

[rigid cloak]

DRG style hacking is very cool too

[final spruce]

He seems to be the same yeah but he does switch weapon from phase 1 to phase 2

[shadow plover]

https://youtu.be/wL39MSbwTOg

[serene jungle]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EjIe6V_jZKY

would you say this is an accurate depiction?

[barren tapir]

Yes, but only for the forge world that rely heavily on servitors to fight

Or machines in general than infantry like skitarii

[vapid tiger]

a guard fan is transported into 40k and made into a guardsman

he screams "FIX BAYONETS! SHOVELS XD! CADIA FELL BEFORE THE GUARD DID! THE EMPEROR PRO-"

the commissar shoots him for speaking out of line repeatedly

his headless remains are left unburied and he will not be remembered.

[dusk knot]

gets shot for admitting cadia fell

[fierce pendant]

tell me more

[vapid tiger]

what more is there to tell

[fierce pendant]

like more fates of 40k guard stans dying

it's like porn

addicting

[wind flicker]

40k isekai but its just arch fans getting eaten by tyranids

[fierce pendant]

tell me more mmm

im gonna coom

[vapid tiger]

a guard stan is teleported into 40k, dressed as a krieger. His squadmates recall him as if he is one of their own. He does not have a name, but a number he has not memorized.

He does not respond to orders when identified by this number, and is pistol whipped by his sergeant for this, who assumes a simple case of shell shock.

He then notices that his squadmate has a trench club strapped to his belt rather than his entrenching tool, and proceeds to argue that a shovel would be better and "more comedic." His sergeant reprimands him once more. His squadmate says nothing

As the orks charge screaming gibberish, the guard stan, once a fervent believer in "the masculine need to die on an alien world," screams to "BRING UP ZE FLAMMENWERFER." His squadmates ignore him and are more focused on the enemy, and are slightly confused. He pussies out after firing a few lasgun shots that manage to miss, and is bludgeoned to death by his fellow guardsmen with lasgun butts for being a disgrace to his world and regiment. They regard themselves as little more than meat made to dying fighting, not individuals, and this cowardice is used as an example to his regiment of the dangers of individuality.

[fierce pendant]

perfect, i'm gonna print it, laminate it and put it on the fridge

[errant yacht]

I can imagine a worse fate of those guard stans

[wind flicker]

being put near tau

[errant yacht]

What if they woke up as aspirants on Ultramar?

And miraculously pass with flying colors?

They would live multiple lifetimes knowing that they have been denied their fantasy of being in their favorite faction

[wind flicker]

lol

[errant yacht]

All while bearing the heraldry of their least favourite chapter

or worse, they became a Marine Malevolent.

[tawdry escarp]

Do guard stans hate Ultramarines?

[final spruce]

Guard stans hate everybody so most likely

[storm jungle]

As an expert

less hate

more just... "Guard are braver and more badass" etc etc

something something "adamantium ballz"

[tawdry escarp]

Than Marines?

[storm jungle]

Yeah

[tawdry escarp]

I'm no marine fanatic but i call bullshit

No doubt Guard are brave

[storm jungle]

Guard are brave but like I said they over glorify it a bit yeah

but this has been going since like the mid 2000's

[tawdry escarp]

But Marines face shit that would make them die of fear

[storm jungle]

Mostly yep

but yeah its mostly just faction rivalry

[tawdry escarp]

The only ones I can think of with the same kind of fearlessness as Marines are Kasrkin

And that's just because they live next to the Eye

[fierce pendant]

ye that's the point for the dislike

[tawdry escarp]

Well, lived

[storm jungle]

wow

too soon

💀

[fierce pendant]

like bruh, ig in a nutshell is more like a group of civies, scared shitless and ordered to fight against the horrors of this universe

it's fun giving them credit where credit is due

but like

[tawdry escarp]

I'm assuming Guard stans act like every guardsman is the Doom Slayer

[storm jungle]

It's a bit like watching U.S Marines flex over every army in the world

[fierce pendant]

Ye didn't know how to describe it, what you said ^

[storm jungle]

Lmfao yeah

like with the USMC they are literally drilled and indoctrinated to think they are the best of the best

so i dont want to throw shade too much

[fierce pendant]

it's just fucking tiring, guard has cool moments but these people just feel entitled to disregard what other factions do, marines, SoB or w/e else

[storm jungle]

Yeaaaaaaaaaah

just be glad you werent around in like

2009

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BLym2QKCUAAWWDF.jpg

[tawdry escarp]

Sororitas is fucking awesome

[fierce pendant]

I mean i know the shitty memmes

black background and text

[storm jungle]

LMAO

[fierce pendant]

I don't know the forums

I don't want to

[storm jungle]

yeah dont

[fierce pendant]

yes

[fierce pendant]

just not the non-cannon gray knights bloodbaths

[tired umbra]

To be fair. Astartes are a bunch of genetically engineered walking tanks who are beaten into not feeling fear.

The guard just go out there with lasguns and flak armor

[fierce pendant]

or should I say crimson skinny dipping

[tawdry escarp]

Real IG would probably watch the idiot that rushed a tank with a bayonet and laugh at him later

[crisp heath]

as a guard fan i agree. a lot of guardsman also would just run away

[fierce pendant]

It's mostly annoying around the memes that formed by these stans, like "BANG Comissar kill funny"

[storm jungle]

Run away and just shoot at em

it works in cod

[fierce pendant]

^

[storm jungle]

😎

[wind flicker]

RUN OR SHOOT?

both

[fierce pendant]

both

[storm jungle]

BOTH.

[crisp heath]

both

[storm jungle]

Bill knows whats up

[fierce pendant]

that's my secret tactic for Darktide

Run into teammates with ripper gun and shoot at them

[wind flicker]

Im not saying Im gonna be wallrunning as psyker

but Im gonna be wallrunning as psyker.

[fierce pendant]

Parkour

[tawdry escarp]

No commissar means we can retreat

[storm jungle]

To be fair

we can just teamkill the player playing the commissar

3 vs 1

[tawdry escarp]

Hah

[fierce pendant]

yesss

[tawdry escarp]

True

[fierce pendant]

the moment I see you wearing that 1000 aquillas comissar bundle larping

is the moment I stick that funny bayonet up your ass

[tawdry escarp]

Bring back fragging

Just for that guy

[crisp heath]

It's more fun for me and my pals to make fun how weak guardsman actually are in small groups, than say we are rambo

[fierce pendant]

ye

I mean they also got their rambos regiment

[crisp heath]

true

[fierce pendant]

so it's not like guard isn't acknowledged

[storm jungle]

Catachan are literally a mary sue regiment made canon to be fair

[fierce pendant]

yep

[tired umbra]

The whole setting is just mary sues tbh

[crisp heath]

yes

xD

[fierce pendant]

I still belive that TTS equivelant of describing them is canon tho

[storm jungle]

If I told you guys I made a guard homebrew planet thats so badass that the planet itself kills its invaders you'd ridicule to shit out of me

[storm jungle]

Nah

mary sue is literally just "We have no faults and do everything right"

SUS.

[fierce pendant]

Somewhere, titus cries

for whom he fights for

Titus would be a better blood raven than ultramarine given he yoinked that chaos artifact

[final spruce]

I did ridicule the votann for a very similar reason

[storm jungle]

DAURGH-

[wind flicker]

steam forums

[crisp heath]

fun

[wind flicker]

DARKTIDE DEDOTATED SHUTDOWN

(playing warframe)

[fierce pendant]

lmao

[storm jungle]

okay that got me

holy shit lmao

[wind flicker]

https://steamcommunity.com/app/1361210/discussions/0/3416557114753883283/

I hope these people are trollin

but poes law

[final spruce]

Im just sad FS decided to give in to the larpers

[storm jungle]

I hope it gets shutdown 1 month in

[fierce pendant]

guys

did you know darktide is dead

when there's power shortage in my house

like

don't buy it

you can't even turn on pc

smh

can't believe Fatshark would sell such a product

[crisp heath]

Nothing last forever. Just enjoy things, geez

[fierce pendant]

I'm memeing on the steam forum post ;y

[crisp heath]

i talked about the steam guys

[fierce pendant]

a

[crisp heath]

not you xD

[fierce pendant]

xddd

[crisp heath]

all good

[storm jungle]

double kill