#40k-lore-chat

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storm jungle
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Yeah

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but not outright confirmed

lyric ember
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yeesh

plush mason
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i dont think lutin has a video on his 40k channel that isnt atleast 30mins long lol

storm jungle
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its mostly guessed that the Nids are just clustered around

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that and these are literally the tips

unborn iron
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a hive fleet...

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while we got a nurgle issue

storm jungle
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a Fleet of Hives if you will

unborn iron
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and an inqusitor on its way

atomic pelican
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Im just waiting for a fresh hivefleet to eat terra from above after the Princes' trolling the custodeez

shadow plover
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Check the Alfabusa's GSC noire video, good nid stuff

unborn iron
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that sounds like one of the biggest conflicts in 40k

lyric ember
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getting their feet wet

storm jungle
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That video

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haunts me

lyric ember
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what is it?

storm jungle
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basically

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private eye story but in te hive city

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and the psyker detective runs into a GSC cult

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when they tie him down he gets a psychic vision

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of a massive tyranid maw

shadow plover
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Just link it, I'm on my phone so can't bother

lyric ember
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yah

storm jungle
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coming to eat the galaxy from below

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let me get a link

lyric ember
storm jungle
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marked it

plush mason
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"we are conclusion we are the maw"

storm jungle
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its really unsettling lul

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the sound effects alone are just "nah fam"

plush mason
lyric ember
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OK

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FUCK

storm jungle
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THE ARTWORK IS FANMADE

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BUT

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YOU GET THE IDEA

lyric ember
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i forgot that alfabusa can make some scary ass shit

storm jungle
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Yeah that part is fucking horrifying

lyric ember
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fuck that

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watch it on acid now

storm jungle
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lmfao

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ultimate GSC experience

plush mason
storm jungle
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^

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tbh its literally the xenomorph queen

lyric ember
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a fucking what

storm jungle
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but atleast its something

lyric ember
plush mason
storm jungle
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Nah like uh

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they are basically the "moms" of hive fleets

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everyone hive fleet has one

lyric ember
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cant be too creative over there at GW huh?

storm jungle
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they basically design and adapt the nids on the go

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and send them out from the ships

lyric ember
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is there a picture?

storm jungle
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1 sec

lyric ember
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danke

storm jungle
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again fanart

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since no official art exists

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but this is literally what they are

plush mason
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yeah that was the artwork i was talking about

storm jungle
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basically the RTS equilavent of a player character

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who upgrades units and sends them out to fight

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thats their job in the fleet basically

lyric ember
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looks like that asteroid worm from star wars a bit

storm jungle
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But norn-queens as far as I know havent been mentioned since 4th edition

plush mason
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hell didnt alfabusa also commission the famous maw art of the nids?

storm jungle
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Yep

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alfabusa outsources outside artists a lot

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1-2 of my friends are some

plush mason
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its just funny how much he has done for the nids lol

storm jungle
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ikr

plush mason
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his take on kryptmann was also really funny imo

lyric ember
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doesnt he have a nid army?

storm jungle
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I think so

storm jungle
plush mason
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LOL

storm jungle
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Yeah this is like WAY older

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Script and video editing: Eliphas

Script proofreading: Yohan Gas Mask

Outside help: Yohan Gas Mask (ideas), Alfabusa (has animated a couple of short scenes that were more convenient to do with After Effects), Gods-and-kings AKA Riley (art of Godfrey)

------------Voices----------

Kryptman: Comradecrimson

Calato (Deathwatch champion): Yohan G...

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All musics names are further down in the description.

Script written by Eliphas/Eliphus, proofreading by Alfabusa and Yohan-Gas-Mask

Special thanks to:
Warekit for Tyranid models
Sleepydraw for helping with the Watchmaster art
Pythorogus for composing two musics for this
Joazzz for space marines models
SuperNinjanub for Battle Sisters models
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If you got nothing to do

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this is absolutely worth a watch

rose thorn
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so what do the adepta sororitas think of admech? i know they dont liek space marines and liek guardsmen

storm jungle
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Honestly not much

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they still somewhat worship the emperor so they got no beef with them

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also they make all their tech so lol

rose thorn
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ah fair

storm jungle
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they are nowhere near as antagonistic with them as they are with astartes

plush mason
storm jungle
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Kryptman was the first guy to go

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"AYO WHO THE FUCK IS THIS-"

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hes really responsible in making the Imperium realise the nids are a large threat

lyric ember
rose thorn
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OOO waht about imperial knights?

lyric ember
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oh they LOVE the mechanicus

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especially house Zavora

rose thorn
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I mean what do sisters think of knights

storm jungle
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Nothing tbh

lyric ember
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probably same thing as imp guard

storm jungle
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they are just good allies

rose thorn
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AH

storm jungle
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Yeah like

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they dont really have anything to beef with them?

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so hence why its not much to talk about

rose thorn
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Note to self

sisters of battle themed imperial knights

lyric ember
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mhm

rose thorn
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hUH makes sense

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i would think they wouldnt be a fan of their extreme cockiness

lyric ember
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although lore wise it'd probably be more so sisters aligned and inclined knights

storm jungle
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^

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best part of 40k as usual

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want a sister oriented Knight?

lyric ember
storm jungle
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just make their House on a shrine-world

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boom done

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lol

rose thorn
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OH SHIT GOOD POINT

storm jungle
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The sky is the limit drengbarazi

lyric ember
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best knight house still Zavora tho

rose thorn
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also i have a shit laod of extra heads from the khorne daemons Start Collecting and i have no clue what to do with them lmao

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i could just steal the horns and slap them on stuff

lyric ember
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this but heads

rose thorn
rose thorn
lyric ember
rose thorn
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OHhHHh yea

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i remember them now

lyric ember
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mhm

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as an admech fan im not biased at ALL

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also are there any major named admech characters besides cawl, kelbor, and kane?

rose thorn
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UHhHHHh, i know theres alto form HH

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and the admech game

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like a metric shitlaod from the game

lyric ember
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yah ive played it

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i moreso meant important to the overall story

rose thorn
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honestly i really like admech because htey feel the easiest to make a custom character for

lyric ember
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ehh

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pretty much any faction has that

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as long as you dont try to make them a chapter master or leader of a crusade y'know

rose thorn
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I mean making an interesting Space marine character is alot harder to make interesting then a tech pries t

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both visually and lore wise

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maybe because space marines are oversaturated

lyric ember
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most likely

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mechanicus, at least imperium wise, are pretty neglected in the lore in my opinion

rose thorn
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yeah, but the cahracters they do have are always super cool

lyric ember
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xenos def need updates more

rose thorn
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100% xenos need a boost in interesting characters

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eldar less so

lyric ember
rose thorn
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but like, how do you make an interesting ork character?

lyric ember
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something like Tuska demon killer

rose thorn
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'Yeah so his dakka is bigger then the other dakka'

lyric ember
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gotta give them a gimick

rose thorn
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true true

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Oooo good point

lyric ember
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maybe they try to lead through diplomacy more than krumpin or something

rose thorn
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Chaos characters i think struggle the most

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but when they hit they hit it hard

lyric ember
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i wouldnt know

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i know of fabius bile and thats about it

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he cool tho

rose thorn
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as a chaos fan, there are some trash tier and god tier characters

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I think the biggest part of a chaos character is motivation

lyric ember
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man this reminds me

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i need to keep working on my gryphonne IV shit

rose thorn
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Bile, s tier character

Abbadon, pretty lame

lyric ember
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im writing a thing about the survivors of gryphonne iv

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lemme find it rq

atomic pelican
rose thorn
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my favorite chaos characters

lyric ember
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part of it

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thats like the factions and a quote im trying to make

rose thorn
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OOO SHIT THIS LOOKS COOL

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is Typhus a goof character?

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good*

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i dont know much about death guard

shell pebble
viral vessel
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Typhus is an asshole.

shell pebble
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Literally

lyric ember
viral vessel
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One of the most hated.

rose thorn
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but like, id be the first to admit lucius is a fun gimmick but not where near as good character as Kharn

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Kharn mwah amaizng character, he doesnt even like his legion, hell he thinks they are a fucking failure

lyric ember
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I love how his single identifying feature is that he has one sleeve

rose thorn
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on the model yeah

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it hink his old model was litearlly that

barren tapir
lyric ember
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I know they were trying to relocate, didnt know they were being hospited

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Also it's easy enough to switch out some parts

barren tapir
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Following the planet's destruction, the forge-synod of the world's Mechanicus re-established itself on the Forge World of Tolkhan.

lyric ember
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Wheres that from?

barren tapir
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Servants of the machinie god anthology

lyric ember
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Ah

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Dont know what that is

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But it's whatever

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Again, i can just switch out some bits

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I just liked gryphonnes paint scheme

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Well like

barren tapir
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I mean, your stuff is based on some actual lore, i just wanted to point out that you could improve it with official parts that could come in handy

frosty cobalt
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Hes a great villain

lyric ember
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Well GW has probably forgotten about gryphonne

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So i can work that in

barren tapir
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Like, the torchbearers mission is lore official, as the gryphonne survivors are searching for a new planet where to settle

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Banes of the insectoid menace are similar to an official faction of the Ad. Mech. fully into fighting nids

lyric ember
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And who's that?

barren tapir
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Lmao Zhao Arkhad... You know some very unknown piece of lore

lyric ember
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Ohh

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Ok

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Actually i do know who that is

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Didnt realize they fought nids

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Arent they right next to gryphonne on the map?

barren tapir
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Circle Varnak- A sect spread across the Eastern Fringe dedicated to the destruction of the Tyranids following the fall of Tyran

lyric ember
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WAIT

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OHH

barren tapir
lyric ember
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IM DUMB

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Yah sorry

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I read thay completely wrong

barren tapir
lyric ember
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Har har

shell pebble
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Hes just a dickhead

barren tapir
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@lyric ember in the end i say that your work is very well done, i congratulate you on it, but i think you can improve it by adjusting some stuff, linking it to some official lore so to make it more robust to the judgment of some lore purist, or just as inspiration

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I pinged Kaelus wrongly lol

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Pls no ban Kaelus!

plush mason
lyric ember
plush mason
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so who was this Draken guy in kryptman's retinue?

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so the blood ravens where also a part of the early tyranid's lore

alpine ingot
barren tapir
plush mason
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like how much of these videos is canon?

alpine ingot
rose thorn
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i just like lucius because hes so fucking ridiculously evil, and yeah hes th perfect swordsman but ate shit plenty, i just think hes more of a gimmick then anything

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But Kharn
MWAH

barren tapir
plush mason
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All musics names are further down in the description.

Script written by Eliphas/Eliphus, proofreading by Alfabusa and Yohan-Gas-Mask

Special thanks to:
Warekit for Tyranid models
Sleepydraw for helping with the Watchmaster art
Pythorogus for composing two musics for this
Joazzz for space marines models
SuperNinjanub for Battle Sisters models
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rose thorn
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i dont even like melee armies that much but angron and kharn are too amazing

alpine ingot
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Kharn and Ahriman are both really good.

rose thorn
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yeah 100%

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their goals isnt just

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'make my god happy by doing stuff im good at'

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but htey have a personal motivation

alpine ingot
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Ahriman constantly battling suicidal thoughts and depression is really interesting

barren tapir
alpine ingot
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because it leads into fueling his desire to save his legion again

rose thorn
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im gonna be 100% honest, ithink EC need to have a huge lore shake up,. like someone rises from dirt and manage to rise the ranks of slaanesh's followers

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their 40k lore is just

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so

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so bad

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they arent even a threat

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night lords are doing more shit then them

alpine ingot
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Fulgrim would have been a more interesting character if they just kept to the fact that he was possessed by a demon rather than whatever the cracked reflection was.

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would have made his perfect clone feel like it was much more important and an interesting story line.

plush mason
rose thorn
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I think it sreally fitting he gave up and kinda jsut accepted chaos, most slaanesh followers just emotionally crumble under the stress of seeking slaanesh's gaze

rose thorn
plush mason
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also cyrus is in the deathwatch team under kryptman's command lol

barren tapir
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Cyrus fought the necrons afaik

alpine ingot
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well he did give up after he realized he was the one that killed Ferrus, but rather than giving him the oblivion he sought, the Demon stuck his soul in that god awful painting he had done by that one remembrancer.

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I wish it was left as that

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so he could watch his legion eternally fall into further damnation and be unable to do anything about it.

rose thorn
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OH YEAH THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN AMAZING

plush mason
rose thorn
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and maybe he just becomes a toy for slaanesh and is tortured for eternity or something

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it would fit slaanesh for being the one who abuses and tortures their primarch while others at least respect them

alpine ingot
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would have been better then the corner the wrote themselves in and the inability to use his perfect clone. and then all that just for him to get sold off to Trazyn like a used car.

rose thorn
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the only way i think they can save it is if trazyn trades slaanesh the real fulgrim for the fake one

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since real fulgrim has been just sitting on his pleasure planet not doing anything

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broken of will since rylanor

alpine ingot
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wait. is it cannon that he's been sulking this entire time since Rylanor suicide play?

rose thorn
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yeah

barren tapir
rose thorn
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he didnt even participate in the fall of cadia

alpine ingot
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and here I though Lorgar was a fucking disappointment

rose thorn
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NAh lorgar left his tower a while ago

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hes actually doing shit

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meanwhile fuckin fulgrim is sitting in a flesh hot tub

alpine ingot
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now after Corax has been Caawing at him for 10,000 years.

rose thorn
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i know the next loyalist to return will be either lion or dorn

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but man i wan corax back

alpine ingot
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Lorgar better have a vendetta against the Raven Guard because of that

rose thorn
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it would be so cool to see a bird daemon model

rose thorn
alpine ingot
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Eternally malding ever since Monarchia

serene jungle
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famous last words

rose thorn
# alpine ingot Eternally malding ever since Monarchia

to be fair, what if you spent your entire life working toawrds something then to have your dad/god and brother destroy it and say you have failed him, you are a disappointment, and that you are so horrible your step cusions will have to baby sit you so you dont fuck up again while you undo everything you worked for

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i think word bearers also have anti custodies stratagem as well as an ultra marine one

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it is more then reasonable you would hold a grudge

hushed kayak
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did learn about Erebus yet

rose thorn
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no lmao

hushed kayak
rose thorn
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ive been super busy

hushed kayak
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all good lol

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speaking of Corax, this guy is probably still hunting traitors to this day

rose thorn
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yeah

alpine ingot
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Word Bearers are a really mixed topic for me, because they have some really good characters, then there are some that absolutely shit the bed and make everything involving them really awkward. Lorgar in my opinion is that character. He was told countless times that the Emperor did not want to be worshipped as a god and that there was to be no gods in the Imperium, fuck he could have preached the Imperial Truth as his "god" but he really wanted something higher then him to lay all his blames on, and something he can point at and shift responsibility towards in my opinion. Doesn't help when characters like Argel Tal feel fucking embarrassed sometimes being a son of Lorgar.

rose thorn
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i really hope if he comes back he stays super warp fucked and maybe some of his kin try to do the same thing as thier dad and become warp monsters as well

rose thorn
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He never betrayed the truth, the truth betrayed him

alpine ingot
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besides Corax the only one I see being transformed is Russ due to the Wolfen curse.

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and I doubt they'll do that

hushed kayak
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Lorgar was a good guy, erebus just pushed him to the edge after the emperor and Gulliman destroyed the palace

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Gulliman didn’t even wanted to do it

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GULLIMAN DIDNT WANT TO DO IT

alpine ingot
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meanwhile jaghatai is fucking bike racing the Dark Eldar in the webways and the back alleys of Commorragh

hushed kayak
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Lorgar ngl, was at fault as well, but the guy grew up with religion

rose thorn
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also they were never really told lorgar to not create the religion and they did amazing job nto only claiming planets but rebuilding completely loyal civilzations

alpine ingot
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I refuse to believe Jaghatai would be made a slave or could ever be killed by a dark eldar

rose thorn
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i cant find anything telling him to stop before pre burning

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it doenst helkp that word bearers are the punching bag of reddit

rose thorn
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i think there was someone who said he killed him but he might be dead

hushed kayak
rose thorn
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yeah :<

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its so hypocritical lmao

hushed kayak
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so far how many books did you read on the Horus Heresy

rose thorn
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UHHHHHhhhh cahpter 5 atm

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i only listen to books while i work on models and ive been busy af

alpine ingot
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Monarchia was just a shit show from all sides and that's what makes it such a tragedy.
Hell, my take on what happened afterwards is that Lorgar didn't even care if Guilliman wanted to or not burn the city. He wanted someone to hate.

rose thorn
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I iwll never understand people who hated the word bearers while congratulating the black templars

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huh?

hushed kayak
rose thorn
crisp heath
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Word Bearers are famous for saying words.

hushed kayak
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oh god damn it i can’t even spoil it smh

rose thorn
hushed kayak
barren tapir
alpine ingot
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you mean the first heretic?

rose thorn
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OH MY GOD I JUST REALIZED THAT THE START OF THE BURNING IS BASCIALLY THE EXACT SAME AS THE LAST CHURCH LMAO

hushed kayak
rose thorn
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AHAHAH THATS ACTUALLY GREAT, Ultramarines/emperor tell priest/religious citizens to leave and give up faith

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priest/citizens protest

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death and fire

hushed kayak
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REVELATION

rose thorn
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THEY BOTH SAW THE EMPEROR AS GOOD

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GOD*

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AHAHAH

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history repeats it self i love it

hushed kayak
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lol

plush mason
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ok so. wtf is a "xeno horrificus"

hushed kayak
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i can’t tell if this is a joke lol

plush mason
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its not lol

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i have never heard of this term before

hushed kayak
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another fancy word with latin combined with horror

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but

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it is an order part of the ordus xenos

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inquisitors that hunt specifically aliens

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i think

rose thorn
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wait thats the ordos xenos it hink

plush mason
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im asking about the xeno called Draken that was working with kryptman whom kryptman calls a "xeno horrificus"

hushed kayak
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oh

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the tyrannids

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He was a tyrannid the entire time

plush mason
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well Draken wasnt a nid. not exacly anyway. nore was he a genestealer it seems

hushed kayak
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i don’t think he was genestealer, the way how it was stated

plush mason
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yeah

rose thorn
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i didnt realize Lorgar looked most like big e

hushed kayak
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let me check my book

hushed kayak
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Konrad Curze has long hair like the emperor

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@plush mason okay so apparently xeno horrificus is a class of dangerous aliens

rose thorn
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holy shit im half way chapter 5, damn poor lorgar

hushed kayak
rose thorn
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i didnt realize how much even his adoptive father gave up on the emperor

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while lorgar still had faith in him

hushed kayak
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explain lol

plush mason
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you mean his adoptive abuser?

rose thorn
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true

plush mason
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the man had one of the most shit upbringings of the lot

rose thorn
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but also, Lorgar was a broken man from the start

plush mason
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yup

rose thorn
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and the only hting keeping him together was his faith

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that is

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respectable as fuck

plush mason
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not when said faith was so horribly misplaced lol

hushed kayak
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exactly

rose thorn
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if the emperor actually fucking cared then he could have been probably one of the best primarchs

hushed kayak
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wait did you read Betrayer yet?

rose thorn
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no

plush mason
hushed kayak
rose thorn
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bet

hushed kayak
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wait no

rose thorn
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i was gonna listen to fulgrim but im not gonna work on EC for a while

hushed kayak
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How far are you in the Horus Heresy books?

rose thorn
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first heretic is my first but i know most of the lore alread

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jut not the specifics

hushed kayak
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so you know about Lorgar and Angron fighting Guilliman?

rose thorn
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Yeah

hushed kayak
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Lorgar felt so much shame when he met Guillman

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When he saw him obviously he saw hatred. But it wasn’t genuine anger on “YoU BetRaY tHe EmPeRaaR”

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i have it on kindle let me find it

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*In Guilliman's eyes, Lorgar saw a wealth of purest,
depthless hared. A hatred not formed from one action
and one event, but a chemical cauldron of emotion
strong enough to twist even the calmest, most
composed demigod in the Imperium. Anger flared in
those eyes, of course. More than anger, it was rage.
Frustration tainted it further; the desperation of not
understanding why this was happening, and the
ferocity of one who still believes he might find a way to
stop it.
Hurt - somehow, seeing the hurt in Guilliman's eyes
was the worst of all - also poisoned the mix and made it
rancid. This wasn't the pure rage of Corax on the killing
fields - the fury of a brother betrayed. This fury was
saturated into something much harsher and much more
complex.
It was the pain of a builder, an architect, a loyal son
who had done all that was ever asked of him, and had
seen his life's work die in foolish, spurious futility.
Lorgar knew that feeling, had known it since he knelt in
the ashes of the Perfect City, the entire settlement
destroyed by Guilliman's fleet on the Emperor's orders.
For the first time in all the years of their wildly disparate
lives, Lorgar Aurelian and Roboute Guilliman connected
as equals.
To his amazement - and the shock leaving him cold
blooded - Lorgar felt ashamed. In his brother's face he
finally saw real hate, and in that moment he learned a
lesson that evaded him all these decades. Guilliman
had never hated him before. The Ultramarine had never
undermined his efforts; never hidden his sneers while
presenting false indifference; never held a secret joy
over humbling Lorgar's religious efforts in Monarchia
and the Great Crusade beyond.
Guilliman hadn't hated him. Not until now. This was
hate. This was hatred in totality, fuelled by a fortune
pathos. This was a hatred deserved, and it was a hatred that would see Lorgar dead, with the song
unfinished and the False Emperor still enthroned at the
head of an empire he didn't - in his ignorance - deserve
to lead.
The Bearer of the Word felt a sudden, burning need to
explain everything, to justify himself, to tell how this
was all necessary, all of it, to enlighten humanity.

rose thorn
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DAMNNNNNNNNNNN

hushed kayak
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The most fucked up thing is, if Lorgar had just talked to any of the loyalist Primarchs. He probably could’ve not been part of chaos

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maaaan I HATE THIS SHIT

rose thorn
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I fucking lvoe it, taht all of the primarchs fall is from the worst series of events that could possibly happen did

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If angron was saved on any other day

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if the emperor put any less faith in Fulgrim

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If the emperor bothered to care in lorgar

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If The emperor actually helped control Conrad's home world

alpine ingot
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god... Angron's introduction.... I hate it for so many reasons, I honestly rather have his fall be due to the nails poisoning his mind rather than Big E beaming him up and fucking off from Angron's homeworld

hushed kayak
#

Biggest question is why didn’t the emperor helped him

rose thorn
#

If Mortarin was able to complete his goal

rose thorn
#

But Khan and Fulgrim got switched

hushed kayak
rose thorn
#

but big E wasnt aware it was his own actions that caused them to become traitor

storm jungle
alpine ingot
#

I can already see what Fulgrim would have done instead of Jaghatai

hushed kayak
#

everyone remembers the Nikea fuckfest council for magnus? holy shit

hushed kayak
storm jungle
#

Again, lazy writing

#

there was no reason for Nikea to be this rigged

#

its entire purpose is the writers going:

#

"How do we make magnus turn traitor"

rose thorn
#

worth possible series of events i say

#

but i also only know heretic lore

#

because my lore for chaos will never faulter

#

love*

hushed kayak
#

@rose thorn me as an Alpha legion fan

rose thorn
#

lmao yeah

#

I honestly think alpha legion is heretic, but not because they hate the imperium but because they wanna end chaos

#

by ending humanity

storm jungle
#

Nah

#

the alpha legion are fully traitors

#

they do not do ANYTHING to help the loyalists

#

at all

#

thats entirely a myth made by the fandom

rose thorn
#

THey also fuck up chaos alot

storm jungle
#

Examples?

rose thorn
#

wait shit i forgot half of the alpha legion lore was cannonically fucked

#

lmao

storm jungle
#

Its not really fucked

#

they never helped the Imperium lol

#

like I said thats just fans doing mental gymnastics

rose thorn
#

alpha legion is a mental gymnastics

storm jungle
#

They really arent

hushed kayak
#

Head of the Hydra, Legion book???

storm jungle
#

Okay? I read it, doesnt do much

#

anyway, the only ""mystery"" is the dumb plot of the entire book which can entirely be taken as a lie since Alpharius says it so lol

hushed kayak
#

the alpha legion did betray the imperium, but most didn’t concede to chaos

storm jungle
#

Still the same thing

#

they are traitors at the end of the day

dusk knot
#

I find the alpha legions reason for turning dumb

storm jungle
#

Oh its absolutely dumb

hushed kayak
#

they listens to xenos

storm jungle
#

but now they fully serve chaos

hushed kayak
#

like why tf

rose thorn
#

SLAMS HANDS ALPHA LEGION IS A MEME AND I LIKE IT A MEME

storm jungle
#

Its dumb

#

and misleading

rose thorn
#

THATS THE ALPHA LEGION

storm jungle
#

No lol

#

the memes try to make them more complex than they are

#

they are just a silly traitor legion

rose thorn
#

if alpha legion waws perfectly explained then they would be lame

#

the bullshit is fun

storm jungle
#

I mean

#

its already explained

#

theres no bullshit

#

the fans just run around in circles making shit up

hushed kayak
#

pish posh my people why don’t you

storm jungle
#

I can and I will

#

I hate the alpha legion lmao

#

though I do love stuff like Rob Sanders' excellent Sons of the Hydra has a group that believe they're serving the Imperium by making it stronger. ||They turn out to none of them be original alpha legionnaires, and the original alpha legionnaires they meet are fully tentacled. One warlord is obsessed with killing ultramarines after Guilliman killed Omegon/Alpharius as Eskrandor. The protagonists are 'just' imperial renegades who read old Alpha Legion material and rebranded themselves.||

#

absolute kek

rose thorn
#

Also i need to find a loyalist space marine chapter taht i like but i hate 99% of them lmao

storm jungle
#

Yeah uh

#

good luck with that

rose thorn
#

White scars are cool tho

#

blood eagles are neat, but they have 2 sentences of lore

#

UhhHh, Fucking the burning skeleton guys

storm jungle
#

Yeah

#

welcome to loyalist marine lore

#

unless you are a founding legion or a successor that is popular you are getting nothing

rose thorn
#

yeah :<

#

better then uHhh

#

chaos which have zero successor lore

hushed kayak
#

now that i think about it the closest alpha legion i can think of that doesn’t serve either is The Unsung

storm jungle
#

but like... almost every chaos band is the same

#

lmao

rose thorn
#

yeah

#

Uhh red corsairs are neat

#

hmmm who else is there

#

chaos warband wise

#

oh creations of bile

plush mason
hushed kayak
#

not sure how that theory came to be

storm jungle
#

Their saying mostly

#

and expertise in librarians

plush mason
rose thorn
#

pff why not i think thats cool enough

plush mason
#

so many that some think their geneseed is ether tainted or from magnus

hushed kayak
#

makes sense but FUCK YOU MALCADOR

hushed kayak
#

to this day acts as ultramarines

plush mason
#

yeah there are a lot of loyalist marines from traitor legions iirc

rose thorn
#

mannnn i should get necrons, they are cool af

hushed kayak
#

NOOOOOOOO

#

ptsd kicks in. fighting necron players at my local store became too meta

plush mason
#

lol

rose thorn
#

i just like illuminator

#

hes fucking awesome

#

Illuminor Szeras

storm jungle
#

He just wants to turn people into goop or cut em open

#

hes based

rose thorn
#

He wants to become god

#

its great

storm jungle
#

He was the one being the biotransference process as well

#

so even more ironic

rose thorn
#

well he fucking loves being a robot

storm jungle
#

Hes jus a SILLY LITTLE GUY

rose thorn
#

'Pff why the fuck would you wanna even go back, this shit is great'

tawdry escarp
#

So

#

Do you think they're going to address Titus' warp resistance in the next SM game?

storm jungle
#

100%

#

he has an inquisitorial badge hanging off his gauntlet too

tawdry escarp
#

Plus he's primaris now

storm jungle
#

Yup

#

shame that trailer literally revealed nothing lol

#

aside from like

#

3 screenshots 💀

cerulean wagon
#

it had some gameplay at the end but ye

#

very limited

#

mostly cause the game is atleast a year out

storm jungle
timber hull
#

thought so it just took a bit to get it

tawdry escarp
#

We all have those brain fart moments

steep rover
tawdry escarp
#

Titus librarian maybe?

real stone
#

No, dumb

#

no hood

storm jungle
#

Librarians are ULTRA psychic dudes

real stone
#

normal armor, normal colors

storm jungle
#

Titus just had a resistance to the warp

tawdry escarp
#

I know

storm jungle
#

too late

tawdry escarp
#

Just shitposting

storm jungle
#

off to the guillotine

tawdry escarp
#

If anything he might be a Blank

real stone
#

Or, and hear me out. He's just an absolute chad who doesn't need no otherworldly, reality bending, powers.

tawdry escarp
#

Magic resistant by sheer force of will, like Georgius de Lydda from the Nasuverse

vapid tiger
#

Marines getting bludgeoned

rigid cloak
hushed kayak
lyric ember
#

Beastman

spice stratus
prisma lark
#

no way the chapter's librarians wouldn't have noticed it during his screening as a novice

idle totem
#

I just prsumed Titus just had the kind of unshakeable will required to just N O psychic shit.

#

Since theres plenty of precedent for that anyway

tawdry walrus
#

the good ending on spehhs mehreen 2 is titus bitch slapping leandros

#

with a power fist

idle totem
#

I don't think Titus could hit him hard enough to out-do the damage hhe already dealt with his stare and disappointment at the end of SM.

tawdry walrus
#

He could put a very manly set of googly eyes into his power fist?

rose thorn
#

I love chaos but fucking damn AOS chaos is so much cooler then 40K chaos

#

And on the flip side, make everyone fighting chaos cooler

storm jungle
#

40k chaos is one-dimensional as fuuuuuuck

rose thorn
#

I feel like it does the metaphorical corruption and literal corruption way better

#

While also embracing the chaotic and religious aspects of it really well

#

I think chaos is only like, well made if it’s winning

#

If kharn was eating shit and gets his face kicked in by anyone who is also good with an axe then he’s kinda lame

#

But because he’s so threatening and has caused serious damage single handedly that instantly makes him alot more interesting

#

‘Yeah this is the literal perfect swordsmen of all of the imperium and in his seek for perfection he joined chaos… but yeah he got offed like 20 times’

cerulean wagon
#

The interest for me is less in the individuals, and more the overal corruption side of it

#

which has been done really well in 40k before, but not in the mainline stuff

#

when an enemy group stands up and goes "we are chaos die imperial" thats lame, which is why HH is lame and the fall of cadia

#

the fun part of chaos is the sense something here isn't right, and by the time they figure it out its too late

bright anvil
alpine ingot
#

Blood Pact I feel is a good way to show off chaos as well. They are an army dedicated to chaos and yet they do not let insanity take them like the cultists hordes. They are disciplined and everything they do is to further the goals of their lord and the ruinous powers.

cerulean wagon
#

which fits as they are under khorne, effectivley a god of war

#

why wouldn't they be disciplined

barren tapir
#

Skele, because muh berzerkers are raving band of rabid animals! And they are the best example of corn right?!?!?!11'1'1

storm jungle
#

🌽

barren tapir
#

Ah, you saw my hidden message, well done fellow kin

storm jungle
#

bows

storm jungle
#

Yes hello im here

#

@fast tendon

#

Chaos in 40k is really just one dimensional mustache twirlers with no serious identity

#

AOS delves into it in a much larger picture

#

that and theres no chaos space marines to hog the spotlight

#

so it explores regular run of the mill humans a lot more

#

I just said how.

#

The Imperial guard are normal humans too

#

and cities of sigmar exist, where pretty much your guard equilavent humans reside

#

....Yes?

#

I cant because the setting is brand new lol

#

Im talking about this point

#

it has good book series' for all the factions

#

unlike 40k which is just majorily marine wank

#

No?

#

Its for people that dont like sci-fi and want high-fantasy

austere ridge
#

maybe i would enjoy more of AoS or warhammer fantasy

upbeat arch
#

Damb, this guy really has a head injury doesnt he?

austere ridge
#

but i have been cursed with the preference to sci fi

odd tulip
#

i leik space marines

odd tulip
#

big metal men do shooty punchy

storm jungle
#

Its AOS

#

but okay

barren tapir
#

What the fuck am i seein in my hallowed channel???

austere ridge
storm jungle
#

she does

upbeat arch
#

What

storm jungle
#

wha...

upbeat arch
#

Bro

austere ridge
#

isnt slaanesh like

upbeat arch
#

Just stop…

upbeat arch
#

Please

austere ridge
#

imprisined or smth in AoS?

crisp heath
#

They them pussy

cerulean wagon
#

tell me you dont know warhammer lore without telling me you don't know warhammer lore

crisp heath
#

Yeah

#

That's why I said that

storm jungle
#

Okay

#

ban time

#

lmao

barren tapir
#

🤨

austere ridge
#

yeah i think imma just

austere ridge
#

go back to xcom

storm jungle
#

dude

#

LMAO

barren tapir
#

<@&735928989146939404>

austere ridge
#

work on my little spark unit

barren tapir
#

Yes

vast frigate
#

we dont take to that behavior kindly, stranger

storm jungle
#

he got banned

#

kek

odd tulip
vapid tiger
#

bruh

barren tapir
#

Oh, lel

austere ridge
#

and he's gone

vast frigate
#

:kek:

vapid tiger
#

MY ENTERTAINMENT

viral haven
#

LEAST SCHIZOPHRENIC MAN ON DISCORD

crisp heath
#

So about slaanesh, is it considered gay to worship him?

fierce pendant
#

141!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

vapid tiger
#

EVERY DAY

barren tapir
#

I wanted to see how he reacted to my yes

paper cedar
#

Disappointed - whats so hard about staying on lore topic? lol

cursive hull
vapid tiger
#

EVERY DAY THERE'S ANOTHER

plucky moth
#

Ah I was beaten to it this time

vast frigate
#

@odd tulip can you check for me

fierce pendant
vast frigate
#

how many people have been banned

fierce pendant
#

He didn't even last 30 minutes

plucky moth
#

It’s 141

vast frigate
#

It is

vapid tiger
#

EVERY DAY THERE IS ANOTHER ONE

vast frigate
#

Juicy

fierce pendant
#

141

upbeat arch
#

Thank god

fierce pendant
#

stomp stomp

paper cedar
#

back to general chat, if we are just gonna insult each other we should do it there

vast frigate
#

i swear i saw it happen in general and i was like; whot

barren tapir
#

I mean, when they mentioned people getting roped and trump they sealed their fate

fierce pendant
#

I like how he called us all communists

storm jungle
#

the moment I saw his name I knew it was over

fierce pendant
vapid tiger
#

p sure he was talking about minorities when he said "MODERN 40K"

viral haven
vast frigate
#

what was his name

storm jungle
#

Oh well

vast frigate
#

i forgor

humble lynx
#

Those numbers are much lower than I was expecting Aquila.

storm jungle
#

back to the norm

fierce pendant
#

yep

vast frigate
#

waiting for the next?

fierce pendant
#

think we'll hit 200 before the end of the month

plucky moth
#

We average like 3-5 a week

fierce pendant
#

ye but gameplay trailer

crisp heath
fierce pendant
#

tomorrow

#

it's like a lure for these people

storm jungle
#

Okay 5 bucks bet

#

we will ge tat least 1 marine guy

still atlas
#

the heck happened in here

crisp heath
#

10 for slaanesh

storm jungle
#

and then made fun of trans people and got banned lol

barren tapir
#

Someone ruined the mood of this hollowed channel

#

We don't like such things

crisp heath
#

General chat 2.0

fierce pendant
#

gonna always bring up "40k is satire" with people like that

#

ez bait

plucky moth
#

Transphobia is 100% not tolerated

still atlas
#

this is not Barrens Chat 40,000

plucky moth
#

Or any sort of bigotry for that matter

#

Only against marines

still atlas
#

I should hope not

vast frigate
#

ill make a bingo guys

#

brb

plucky moth
#

You can be bigoted towards ultramarines and iron hands

#

No one else

plucky moth
#

Imagine being called Ferrus Manus lmao

tranquil umbra
#

iron hands loose their dad and get bullied

distant parcel
#

i started with ultramarines when i was 11 years old 😫

#

will never forgive my child self

humble lynx
#

Iron Warriors are vastly better than Iron Hands

cerulean wagon
distant parcel
#

sold em all on ebay tho

#

some amount of redemption

tawdry wyvern
#

I think it's fair to add the Raven Guard to that group

vast frigate
#

5x5 is enough right?

#

or do we need a bigger bingo sheet

storm jungle
#

I think its good

tranquil umbra
#

kinda lost but what for

vast frigate
#

alright lets fill it up

final spruce
#

Ah, you're reworking the bingo set ?

vast frigate
#

racism/bigotry in one slot or?

vast frigate
#

wheres the old sheet

tranquil umbra
#

sounds about right

final spruce
#

Also yeah, should be done in memes

tawdry wyvern
# vast frigate

Add "reasons why prominent painter from Austria was right/had a point"

vast frigate
#

PFPOHJBKFWAKJ

tawdry wyvern
#

And something krieg related 🤔

final spruce
#

Already got krieg I believe

humble lynx
#

"Accuses mods/server of being commies"
"Accuses mods/server of being fascists"

Bonus points if it's the same person

plush mason
#

lol

final spruce
#

Old one is there

tawdry wyvern
#

Lol, bottom left

final spruce
#

Tell me I'm wrong lmao

tawdry wyvern
#

Ah, I'll wait until she sees it 🤣

final spruce
#

She already knows

#

It's almost 1 y old now I believe

vapid tiger
#

What are the lore implications of this

tawdry wyvern
#

So there is another thing I missed then

cunning wigeon
#

Hang on a minute @storm jungle doesn't usually talk to themselves...did I miss a chud getting banned again?

#

Damn and they were talking about AoS

#

Even bigger shame

storm jungle
#

Yeah but it wasnt worth anything you could added

#

basically just

#

AOS has less books, shit setting

#

I post violent slaanesh art

#

"obviously for kids"

cunning wigeon
storm jungle
#

Also he complained about uh

#

there being no Imperial guard or something?

#

I just pointed him at Cities of Sigmar

#

but he didnt really get it

cunning wigeon
#

Nobody complains about 40k bloat

#

What were they hoping to achieve lol

atomic pelican
cunning wigeon
#

Everyone to say AoS is shit or something?

plush mason
storm jungle
#

Also like

#

he talked about how theres no struggle of regular humans

cunning wigeon
#

???

storm jungle
#

and I just wanted to scream

#

LMAO

trim cypress
#

Is Robot the only loyalist Primarch that's alive currently?

atomic pelican
storm jungle
#

DFSJDSFJDS

#

PROUD NO

cunning wigeon
#

Oh yeah humans have it so great in AoS

vapid tiger
#

Basically the guy from earlier

cunning wigeon
#

No Orruks hunting them for fun

storm jungle
#

Have yall watched the new AOS Hammer and Bolter episode

vapid tiger
#

OMG THAT ONE IS GREAT

cunning wigeon
#

No Aelves hunting them for fun

atomic pelican
#

BEAR

#

BEAR BEAR

storm jungle
#

where a city is about to get sieged and the stormcasts cant even do anything

cunning wigeon
#

No trees hunting them for fun

vapid tiger
#

BEAR EATER BEAR EATER

#

HAMILCAR!!!!

cunning wigeon
#

No forces of death hunting them for fun

storm jungle
#

FUN

atomic pelican
#

And Chaos controls 90% of the setting

cunning wigeon
#

So relaxing and calm

storm jungle
#

dfskfdksj

vapid tiger
#

He needs his own show

#

Give him his own show

atomic pelican
#

He does

cunning wigeon
#

Archaon is human and he gets to chill therefore no problem

#

Maybe this was the same guy from a month or two ago who thought medieval life was cushy and not that bad

storm jungle
#

lmfdfjsfds

#

god please

#

Also ngl I love how this is the first AOS episode of the show

#

and its instantly fucking great

cunning wigeon
#

Oh yeah

#

Only real complaint was some of the orruk voice acting

storm jungle
#

Yeee same

#

I legit was expecting Hamil to defeat the ork boss in some cliche way, but him just using a lightning to smite him and let the orks kill each other was ingenius

#

also big buff stormcast lady with a booming voice

final spruce
#

Amazing

atomic pelican
#

LMAO

cunning wigeon
#

I loved the smite part because my head canon was just Sigmar over hearing some random stormcast about to share reforging so hurled a lightning bolt and Hamilcar just lobbed the boss in front of him

#

(obviously stormcast don't know how to reforge but moving on)

storm jungle
#

Yeah its a fair bit of "I can ignore this because it makes the plot more awesome" moment

cunning wigeon
#

And the fact the Chad just wanted ale after

#

Really hope they make some more top quality AoS ones

storm jungle
#

Same, like anything AOS is good imo.

40k ones are fine but like AOS has that Jolly-Gore'y™️ adventure feel

cunning wigeon
#

I think what also helped is that the fan reaction was generally appreciative whereas with some of the 40k ones people were splitting hairs over whether a grenade was worthwhile to kill a ripper swarm

rose thorn
cunning wigeon
storm jungle
#

Lmao yeah

#

AOS imo is basically Guardians of the Galaxy but Rated-R

#

its a grim but fun setting

#

40k is the one I love because gunz but i can appreciate AOS for what it is at least

#

also the sexy models

#

😌

cerulean wagon
#

dilara really boutta ask to be stepped on

cunning wigeon
#

god I love the models but yeah I appreciate that here the 40k fans aren't all spamming Age of Shitmar

cunning wigeon
storm jungle
#

AOS also has the advantage of being geared towards a modern audience

#

you dont have that 30 years of lore bloat

#

unisex factions are 👌

cunning wigeon
#

Absolutely

#

Makes it feel more genuine too

#

Why the fuck would a force desperately fighting against chaos demand you have to be male to join

#

Makes no sense

storm jungle
#

Yeah 40k kinda suffers from 80's machismo a lot but its getting better

cunning wigeon
#

Only exceptions being Daughters of Khaine because well...they're the daughters of Khaine

#

And I guess Ossiarchs as they've moved beyond gender

storm jungle
#

also uh

#

too much warhammer fantasy models to re-use

#

but ssssssh

cunning wigeon
#

Sexy snake ladies are where it's at

#

Who cares about witch Aelves

storm jungle
#

alas, poor witch elves 💀

#

you and your bad models will be cherished

atomic pelican
#

DoK are powered by Morathi's misandry

cunning wigeon
storm jungle
#

non-binary stormcast is gooood

#

as usual leave it to RPG companies to make better lore than the actual company

#

It took like 30 years for 40k rpg's to get a black person on the cover art

atomic pelican
#

Even the DoK have NB slaughter.. leaders?

#

Who have to be reconciled with the temple at large

final spruce
fierce pendant
final spruce
cunning wigeon
atomic pelican
#

Depends on the temple but usually no

#

Men made by Morathi or born of DoK are cursed by her

#

They are the Leathanam

#

And will usually be weakly

storm jungle
#

my boyz getting discriminated 😩

atomic pelican
#

The highest leathanam are usually doomfire warlocks

#

And they still have control bands

cunning wigeon
#

Oh it's just in the new Khainite stalkers warband for Underworlds it mentions that the dude earnt his position on the warband but is seen as inferior to the women

#

To the point he can't look at the umbral queen's face

#

Or mask rather

atomic pelican
#

Yeeee, the Stalkers are outside the usual DoK ranking too

cunning wigeon
#

Ah gotcha, the two women are former witch Aelves so I thought they were related

shadow plover
#

oh no did I miss a ban

atomic pelican
#

Im pretty sure theyre actually Umbraneth agents employed to be her left hand, though we will know more when Malerion's faction releases

#

According to the tome, the Stalkers are like directly under Morathi and are sort of outside DoK power structure

storm jungle
#

AOS bad etc

#

the usual

vapid tiger
#

Think 40k is satire?

#

You must be a communist!!!!!

shadow plover
#

lol

vapid tiger
#

And a...democrat...???

shadow plover
#

was he someone newe

storm jungle
#

yes

#

lmao

vapid tiger
#

Yep

atomic pelican
#

It should be noted that, since AoS is baller, there are Khainite temples who have different views from the main set

vapid tiger
#

Every time

storm jungle
#

2 people got banned after him

atomic pelican
#

Including on gender

fierce pendant
cunning wigeon
#

Sleepy Joe is a well known age of Shitmar fanatic (s)

atomic pelican
#

LMAO

storm jungle
#

Yeah like i said AOS is incredibly inclusive which is great

vapid tiger
#

Wha

storm jungle
#

Yeah mostly people telling me iw as being political for calling the Imperium fascist

cunning wigeon
fierce pendant
storm jungle
fierce pendant
storm jungle
#

"HOW WILL I BE A GENOCIDIST NOW"

cerulean wagon
wind flicker
#

Im stealing this

cerulean wagon
#

they had the plant icon still

cunning wigeon
#

How can I argue that the humans had no choice but to be dickheads now

#

The humans are actually trying to get along with everyone they feasibly can

vapid tiger
#

Holy shit

storm jungle
#

AOS be like:

"We genocide skeletons in this setting sir."

vapid tiger
#

THREE PEOPLE

#

Is that a new record???

storm jungle
#

also it is lmao

#

incan had no shits to give

cerulean wagon
#

the first guy was transphobic, the 2nd agreed with him and the 3rd tried to defend them

storm jungle
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im sorry

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Agreed

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Is it lore unfriendly for SOR being unscarred and extremely sexualized

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lmao

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I'll be taking myself and my calcium rich homies elsewhere

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I like the outfits

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Sigmar canonically went on a killing spree after seeing ppl being racist in Azyr

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Literally Dark elves, High Elves, Tree spirits, the fucking undead and humans all United under one pantheon

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Age of Myth lets GOOO

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Even the fucking orks for involved

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Pretty pog tbh

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A past to actually be proud of

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sugma d- KotaroBonk

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classic

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Like the old world Bois (and gals) were back in town on a mission to kill chaos

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Oh and I can't forget dwarves, otherwise I know I'm going to see that same "that's going in the book" meme for the 5000th time

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My favorite story is Sigmar wrestling Gorkamorka which created alot of Ghur's landscape features

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Do you think sigmar has a cute elven wife

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Sigmar's wife is his warhammer

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Soul eater hammer elemental, i dig it

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dwarves are most interesting when they aren't touched by their fandom