40k-lore-chat

[bright anvil]

Pog

Love the emperors children

[proper helm]

Wait Deathwatch has a reputation?

Not really surprising I guess

[atomic pelican]

Yeah

Probs the least of the 3 since less popular overall but

Being The Xenophobic™️ marines helps

[vapid tiger]

don't tell them that the marines are having epic gay sex with one another

[brittle nebula]

Thx that reminds me of that one weird vid.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=gH6u5oiYMLI&feature=share

This abomination

[brittle nebula]

https://tenor.com/view/kronk-point-debate-argument-angel-gif-17274775

[frosty cobalt]

https://youtu.be/pHb5qomxRck

[brittle nebula]

https://tenor.com/view/40k-astartes-bolter-boltgun-dakka-gif-17604583

[storm jungle]

I'd rather fight for some people that give me free noodles so I can't object

[frosty cobalt]

Says the gravelord

Anyway i feel that most “normal” humans would prolly join the tau if given the chance

[storm jungle]

Nah they absolutely would

your other option is working to death in factories so

[shadow plover]

though they've been soaking in imperial propaganda all their lives so they might think it a worse option

[frosty cobalt]

Propaganda is good, but starvation and death is a better motivator

Also why i said “normal”. Plenty of people live in propaganda states and do not belive it, but go along with it because no other choice. If another better choice comes along, they would prolly take it

[brittle nebula]

Touché

[plucky moth]

based Tau

[broken bridge]

damn that was really good

[crisp heath]

Tau is Based and chad

[rose thorn]

Is there any good chaos knight houses lore?

[rose thorn]

Oh yea I’ve totally grown to really like tau

[frosty cobalt]

Honestly ive found that anyone who really dislikes them either does it cause they know nothing but memes, or just wants it to be the big angry factions for some reason

[plush mason]

so what is the deal with the shrine worlds?

[plucky moth]

The problem with Tau is the the ethereals aren’t dummy thicc

Whereas Emps used to be absolutely stacked

[shadow plover]

truuu

[frosty cobalt]

Guess what fuck the ethereals gimme my broadside pilot govt mandated GF

[plucky moth]

Based

[storm jungle]

Imagine Vatican but as a planet

thats it lol

https://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Shrine_World

[plucky moth]

I used flash photography in the sistine chapel

[storm jungle]

WHAT

wait no read that as "flash the sistine chapel"

[plucky moth]

oh, too crowded to really get a good angle for that

otherwise it was on the table

[storm jungle]

💀

[plush mason]

so they are all related to a saint got it

[plush mason]

so how many saints are there in the cult of the emperor?

[proper helm]

m a n y

Seriously make up as many as you want

[plush mason]

lol

so what have the grey knights been doing since the fall of cadia?

[cerulean wagon]

uh

lurking in the background and being a menace to society

they activley do more harm to the imperium than good

[plush mason]

lol

so the same old same old

[lyric ember]

What is communication like between forge-worlds?

[cerulean wagon]

Depends on the forge world

depends on wher eit is in the galaxy, what allegiance it has, all sorta shit

[lyric ember]

Dope

Good for me

Also, what do knight and titan "pilots" think of eachother?

More specifically, what do titan pilots think of knight pilots?

[cerulean wagon]

again, entirely depends

each school of knights n titans has their own ethos

same as everything else within the imperium, theres enough variability that anything goes

[lyric ember]

Y'know sometimes the constant ambiguity is annoying as hell

[cerulean wagon]

its nice for actually making content in the world

if you want an established relationship go for an established group

but the galaxy is big, so not everyone interacts the same

[lyric ember]

Yeah

[ripe igloo]

Very wise words! The galaxy is BIG indeed and that means incredible possibilities and variations. Not everybody grasp that 😉 Cheers!

[cerulean wagon]

Thanks, its something i really love about 40k, because most other settings forget this and end up feeling really small

[vapid tiger]

40k being a miniatures game where you were (at least originally) encouraged to do your own thing with the excuse that the setting is BIG helps

So 40k (accidentally, I don't think it's mostly on purpose these days outside of a few writers) actually grasps that space is big enough that EVERYTHING is in it so the setting can encompass EVERYTHING as long as it's in-line with the setting's tone and broader theming

Though I do think the clamoring for ALL the primarchs, especially and specifically loyalist ones, to return in 40k misses that point somewhat since just based on guilliman's treatment the writers would make the setting feel much smaller due to focus they would give to what amounts to space marine phoenix lords

The focus on primarchs in horus heresy makes sense since it's focused on an imperial civil war that's based around marines, wouldn't make so much sense in 40k where marines are far less important on a galactic scale and xenos/baseline human factions are far more prominent than in hh

[cerulean wagon]

Ye guillimans books, as much as they had good bits, do make the setting feel a lot smaller

[vapid tiger]

I mean I do think Guilliman on his own has been handled decently tho given that the main reason for his prominence is due to him assuming the role of Imperial Regent and LAST loyalist primarch, otherwise he and his kin would be less powerful and less important to the setting as essentially space marine generals (similar to their portrayal in 1st ed and early 2nd edition, where primarchs were just prominent space marine generals with enough influence to command multiple chapters)

[cerulean wagon]

seeing as he participated in, and resolved, the 3 most recent major conflicts in the setting

[vapid tiger]

But he also has had a little too much focus, yes

Due to him inheriting the "ULTRAMARINES MUST BE EVERYWHERE" writing issue

Which isn't even in the HH black books or even novels which is fucking weird

Like as much as I rag on the HH novels the grander HH narrative has the ultramarines taking an important but nevertheless limited role, they're handled well as a faction compared to 40k where they're just fucking everywhere

Just "oh the ultramarines legion are cut off from the rest of the imperium by a warp storm and the combined forces of the world eaters and word bearers, by the time they repel that assault and the warp storm dissipates they have to spend a while mustering before heading off to terra, where they are too late to have a role in the siege"

compared to 40k where they, as a MUCH SMALLER FORCE, are on armageddon, vigilus, deeply involved with the pariah nexus, were at the head of the indomitus crusade, fought off the plague wars, etc

Like I think just two of those would work

Just have them be involved with the indomitus crusade then the plague wars

There's little reason for calgar to be on the other side of the galaxy rather than some other important chapter master focused on that region of space, the ultramarines also don't need to be one of the main players in the pariah nexus given that they just got the shit kicked out of them by the death guard

And only managed to repulse them due to multiple ultramarine successors being involved in the conflict as well due to Ultramar expanding back to 500 worlds and Guilliman appointing multiple successors to help protect and govern it

[vagrant osprey]

If you go by the books, there's got to be at least a few million Ultramarines before you start counting successors

In the books the Ultramarines have lost more Astartes than have, officially, ever existed.

[atomic pelican]

Arent there only 1k ultramarines

Before successors

Since codex compliance

[vagrant osprey]

They've lost more than that in individual books.

[atomic pelican]

Yeah 1000 fighting marines per chapter

Of course theres like. The shields of ultramar which are 10 chapters

[cerulean wagon]

ye officially, but the books definetly aren't written like that is waht he means

[atomic pelican]

Yeee

Probs

[vagrant osprey]

GW has no idea how numbers work.

It's why the 3rd battle for Armageddon had a death toll of one million

Honestly, I just assume that everybody is fudging their numbers in the official reports and cheating on their tithe

Because that's the most lore-compliant reason you'll find for things not matching up.

Considering how many loyalists from traitor legions were rolled up into the Ultramarines, I could not possibly imagine them actually trusting the High Lords of Terra enough to be fully compliant.

[odd sparrow]

yeah numbers are one of the first things to ignore dsfh

it's particularly weird with marines, with the 1k number

legit with marine numbers i just mentally add a 0

[vagrant osprey]

Sometimes you need to add more 0s

[spare lion]

I just assume marines die fast and they're constantly creating new ones to just send off to wherever. That way they can get over the 1k number and still send them all over the galaxy

[odd sparrow]

idk that doesn't work great with the whole ~elite elder warriors~ vibe

i don't see any way to make 1k be a believable count for any galactic scale military force

[cerulean wagon]

they aren't supposed to be galactic scale

thats what the guard are for

but bad writting

[odd sparrow]

yeah ofc it's an elite special operations vibes, but it's still operating throughout an entire ass galaxy

there being only 1k should mean like,,,, they're basically unicorns.

[cerulean wagon]

yes

thats supposed to be the case

[odd sparrow]

It doesn't feel right

[cerulean wagon]

[odd sparrow]

dude

G A L A X Y

big

[cerulean wagon]

yes im aware

[odd sparrow]

100k would be a tiny force on this scale

they're elite and rare! doesn't get the writing out of this gvkufx

[cerulean wagon]

especially because they aren't written as such

its just bad writting

[odd sparrow]

yee that's true, a lot of the incongruency is def just marines being written like they're starcraft marines

[cerulean wagon]

SM posterboyisms sucks

makes the galaxy feel much smaller

[odd sparrow]

any BL writer who does the whole like

hm yes the battleline spanning this entire continent is occupied by marines thing should be executed

like. marine involvement in large scale planetary conflicts should be like one space marine cruiser arrives with 50 marines on board. they jump into a few key strategic locations, kill a few leaders, sabotage a few systems, and then they leave

not they're in the trenches

[cerulean wagon]

yup

[odd sparrow]

pov you're a genetically enhanced supersoldier that specialises in precision strikes but you're about to get killed by a howitzer 8km away cus the general decided to put u on the front lines

[cerulean wagon]

that general being biggy G himself

[odd sparrow]

i hate horus heresy marines

[cursive hull]

Less is more with Marines. Its more impressive for a small strike team to turn the tide than a horde of the bastards

The only time it feels justified is if its a Space Marine recruiting world, like Ultramar being attacked or something.

Or if its the marines voluntarily giving up their advantages, knowing the danger it puts them in because of their ideals (Salamanders pulling rear guard during the war for Armageddon.)

[cerulean wagon]

its like, for all its flaws, my fav part of DoW 2 is the campaign

where you have like, 4 squads vs an entire army

[vapid tiger]

i dislike hh novels but i think the hh has cool vibes

as a conflict

i think the whole "lots of marines fighting lots of other marines in dirty warfare" is very pulpy

but in 40k proper marines being spammed like that is less cool

it's why i like the hh black books more than the novels

though a few of them are okay by 40k standards

[barren tapir]

I think we can actually approve of this, less SM there are the better imo

[final spruce]

Yes, gettem banned

[cerulean wagon]

[broken bridge]

meme or is 40k lore that bad?

[vapid tiger]

There's some genuinely yikes takes on there that sometimes become popular

[storm jungle]

Sex servitors was the most infamous one

[vapid tiger]

"it wouldn't be rape, they are mind scrubbed"

[final spruce]

🗿

[storm jungle]

AAA-

[broken bridge]

b-b-b-but are servitors way more machine than person by that point

[storm jungle]

Tbh jokes aside

it would totally fucking exist in-universe but like

we dont need to hear about this shit lmao

[vapid tiger]

Only time I need to hear about this shit is when they're accompanying some villainous piece of shit creepy planetary governer the protagonist has to kill

[storm jungle]

Lmao yeah

like that one inquisitor who was horny for his teacher in the schola so when she died he turned her skull into a servo-skull lmao

[crisp heath]

WHAT

[storm jungle]

God I gotta find it

its so funny and creepy

[broken bridge]

https://www.games-workshop.com/en-BE/hb-the-vincula-insurgency-ghost-dossier-1-eng-2022

i have a big ass back log of books

am i really gonna add gaunts ghosts to that

yes

yes i am

[alpine ingot]

Gaunts Ghost is worth it friend.

[barren tapir]

It wasn't an inquisitor, it was a militant apostolic iirc... Mattieu...

[storm jungle]

YEP

that was it

[crisp heath]

Disgusting

[alpine ingot]

There was that one "inquisitor" that had a... thing for his Caledus assassin whenever she transformed into a tyranid creature.

God it fucking hurts me to type that.

[crisp heath]

😳

[alpine ingot]

Yeah old ass 40k novels are wild with what they were allowed to put out there.

I think that one book is so bad it is non-cannon both in universe and out

[storm jungle]

Jaq Draco

[alpine ingot]

He who shall not be named, but kink shamed with extreme prejudice.

[broken bridge]

tell me more of this jaq draco

[storm jungle]

Oh god i cant

you genuinely have to read his lexi page

this was back when 40k didnt have a lot of established lore so it was kinda off the walls

to the point that all his novels got rebranded

Hereticus Tomes iirc

https://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Inquisition_War_Trilogy_(Novel_Series)

[broken bridge]

40k illuminati is all i needed

lmao

[alpine ingot]

if you want, TTS did a podcast covering Draco here

https://youtu.be/LwKC5fxhIZo

it's... something.

[bright anvil]

Sewer goblin extraordinaire

[open summit]

Clearly it was all in-universe fanfiction written by a Slaaneshi cultist

[brittle nebula]

That is an understatement of that warp coke fueled episode.

https://tenor.com/view/god-emperor-warhammer-40k-gif-14288735

[plush mason]

is it real that bad?

[storm jungle]

Ian Watson spends like half the time in the book telling us about how much Imperial Fists like poop/scat

that episode doesnt even cover half of the stuff he wrote in these books

[plush mason]

wtf

[alpine ingot]

yeah it's pretty fucking bad.

[broken bridge]

aaaaand what is the basis for that writing?

[storm jungle]

"Restoring the brush to the altar, the Reclusiarch lifted the sharp little knife and the chalice. He knelt before Dorn and held up the knife.

The primarch’s hands were both missing…

Genuflecting, the Reclusiarch carved generous parings of amber from one toe, then another, dropping these into the chalice. Rising, he turned to the initiates and raised that cup, now glowing. Effervescence was occurring within. Aromatic white fumes arose from bubbling oil of amber.

“Respire corpus memoria! Breathe the memory of my flesh!”

As he bore the hot chalice along the row of initiates, so each in turn inhaled a heady, strangely fragrant whiff. Fresh molten amber must be added subsequently to the shaved toes to replenish what was taken – unless, unless the amber grew of its own accord like veritable flesh due to the miraculous proximity of those bones.

When the Reclusiarch passed back again, each initiate must hold out his middle finger, pointing stiffly forward from his fist. That little knife slashed sharply, circumcising the very tip of the digit, and even before the Larraman cells could clot – or perhaps because the blade was treated with some special anticoagulant – a sprinkling of bright blood fell like rubies from each fingertip to mingle in the chalice.

Lifting the chalice to his lips, the Reclusiarch drank the potion of hot amber oil blent with blood.

“Ego vos initio in Pugnorum Imperialorum fraternitate, in secundo grado,” he sang out. “And after you return from your first expedition as Scouts,” he promised, “other secretions from your body will be blent in this same chalice of the primarch – which was once His very drinking cup! – during your induction into the third degree of Brotherhood; though that in itself will only be the superficies of the third degree ceremony…”

...

Perhaps the strangest talisman – and one (or should one say many…?) which made those initiates feel themselves intimately a part of the Fists – was kept in a long crypt below the Reclusiam, reached by a dropshaft which would incinerate anyone who did not sport a Black Carapace beneath their skin.

The adamantium floor down there was inscribed with a maze of tiny coloured channels that bootsteps would never be able to wear away – in a pattern suggestive of a cosmic map – and along all of those channels were spaced little indentations the depth of a Fist’s thumbprint, each recess named with a rune. At one end of this seemingly arcane map or game-board an enormous plascrystal bowl held thousands of what at first sight appeared to be bloodshot ochreous eyeballs.

Each ball commemorated the initiation of a group of ex-cadets, throughout the aeons – each being a nugget of the liquid amber and blood drunk from Rogal Dorn’s own chalice by the Reclusiarch of whichever epoch, and defecated by him subsequently in this shape."

[broken bridge]

like did he just pull it from his ass?

[storm jungle]

Read lmao

its awful

but his 3 books are one of the few rare examples of GW outright declaring it non-canon

[brittle nebula]

For good reason

You know what I’m watching the TTS podcasts again just for laughs.

[broken bridge]

wait wait wiat

just to make sure im understanding

[alpine ingot]

and watch HTP while you're at it, it's less brain cancer then trying to sit through this train wreck alone.

[broken bridge]

they are lopping off body parts to put blood into a chalice and then drinking it after mixing with rogals

[brittle nebula]

Yes

[broken bridge]

https://tenor.com/view/dog-bone-funny-face-me-watching-any-scary-movie-scared-gif-15910947

[brittle nebula]

That reaction will be far worse after reading these books.

https://tenor.com/view/internal-screaming-robert-downey-jr-rdj-avengers-the-avengers-gif-10172248

[plush mason]

how much warp coke did Ian snort during this writing?

[storm jungle]

Dont forget the "defecation" part

[brittle nebula]

https://tenor.com/view/jim-and-pam-yes-gif-21499107

[storm jungle]

I genuinely do not understand what this guy had with like

human shit

but beats me

it was the 1980's

[broken bridge]

https://tenor.com/view/rick-james-cocaine-gif-19346294

[brittle nebula]

Shit I just remembered that that Mr. Watson also wrote a book… I can’t put the name up because I’m afraid of getting kicked.

[storm jungle]

These are his only 40k books

The others are uh

*: French title of The Woman Factory, never published in UK. It was rewritten and published in Japan with the same title: Orgasmachine.

[brittle nebula]

That’s the one I was afraid to say

[plush mason]

?

nvm i dont want to know

[brittle nebula]

It’s best you don’t.

https://tenor.com/view/family-guy-stewie-griffin-reaction-scared-shocked-gif-4172981

[alpine ingot]

just reading some of these titles you can tell he was on an acid trip or something writing these

[brittle nebula]

The front cover is enough to hurt your mind.

[alpine ingot]

you don't even get to laugh at the absurdity of the title like you would with a Chuck Tingle book

[storm jungle]

Yeah Watson books are mostly treated as "time capsules" now

thye got interesting lore bits of what 40k was like back then but otherwise its just weird fetish stuff

[brittle nebula]

Time capsules of a drug addict mixed with a porn writer more like.

[vapid tiger]

he do be shittin

[brittle nebula]

https://tenor.com/view/flying-wave-rainbow-colorful-gif-17178100

Watson be like

[plush mason]

idk if i can go the distance but i cant stop watching

its a literal train wreak

[brittle nebula]

Your watching the tts podcast?

[plush mason]

yes

[brittle nebula]

https://tenor.com/view/strong-love-elijah-gif-5539993

[plush mason]

im trying to my lord. im trying to

[brittle nebula]

https://tenor.com/view/parks-and-rec-ron-swanson-screaming-scream-screams-gif-21763857

You can do it I’m only 40 minutes in

[alpine ingot]

I purpose alcohol as a viable supplement

[plush mason]

im sorry but what is this khoase thing?

[brittle nebula]

It’s a sensor they can’t say chaos unless they want to get beeped

Your watching the last church right?

[plush mason]

||also the word "fuck pouch" should never have been entered my vocabulary let alone being used on a genestealer cultist||

[plush mason]

i wish

[brittle nebula]

Welcome to TTS videos in a nutshell

[plush mason]

no welcome to the mind of Ian Watson lol

[brittle nebula]

https://tenor.com/view/elmom-puppet-blue-wow-color-gif-3571251

Yes

[plush mason]

i did it. i lived thru the entire episode

[brittle nebula]

https://tenor.com/view/good-evil-star-wars-emporer-palpatine-darkside-gif-4624104

You have past the first trial.

[plush mason]

first?

no im done

i cant survive any more of Ian's mind

[brittle nebula]

https://tenor.com/view/you-must-serious-pissed-eyebrow-raise-father-blackwood-gif-12678360

[plush mason]

no

[brittle nebula]

https://tenor.com/view/we-lost-him-charlie-hudson-hudson-and-rex-he-shook-us-off-lost-our-trail-gif-23973533

You could have been the toughest mind in the word but you have failed. The books of Watson prepare one’s mind from the worlds horrors.

[plush mason]

please tell me there is more of these

cuz i know its a 3 part book. somehow

[brittle nebula]

These what? The tts break down vids?

No there’s only the one vid.

[storm jungle]

Nah

they just cover like BARELY the part of one book

[plush mason]

good

that was a trip i didnt want

[storm jungle]

Lmao

[plush mason]

GSC fuck pouch is how in my vocabulary and i hate it so so much

[gusty fulcrum]

The Necroscope series of what ive read of it is too but it doesnt quite got to 'fuck pouch' levels if only cuz the writer has a better vocabulary lol

but it can get pretty mental in his descrptions of scenes

[rose thorn]

Holy shit, dawn of war 2 retribution is banger

[broken bridge]

hell yea

[serene jungle]

The Freebootaz campaign is fucking litty

Seitz is sure having a ball with that role because shit, it's just nonstop hilarity

[broken bridge]

Who's more badass catachans or Indigan prefects

[final spruce]

Well catachans were made to look like badass 80's action movie heroes. So Id say indigan are more badass

[plush mason]

ok so wtf is polymorphine?

[storm jungle]

https://warhammer40k.fandom.com/wiki/Polymorphine

Shapeshifting drug

[plush mason]

another question. why are the 4 temples gendered?

[storm jungle]

They aren't gendered

Its just marketing

[plush mason]

https://warhammer40k.fandom.com/wiki/Callidus_Temple

[storm jungle]

Male Calliduses exist

[plush mason]

oh lol

[storm jungle]

its just that "female members are preferred"

also its latex women so im not exactly complaining

[plush mason]

LOL

[storm jungle]

but the rule also applies to the other temples

so female Culexus, Vindicares and Eversor exist

[plush mason]

tbf all the assassin wear latex bar the vendicare

[storm jungle]

Yeah its something called "synskin" iirc

which is literally latex but sci-fi lmao

Synskin is a specialized form of body-suit used by the Imperium, most notably by the agents of the Officio Assassinorum. Once sprayed onto the body, it forms a black outer skin which protects the wearer from the environment and enhances strength.[1] It is bio-reactive and molds itself to the wearer's form. It is also non-reflective and reduces the wearer's infrared profile, facilitating infiltration.[2][3]

there it is

[plush mason]

i see

weird the vendicare dont use it

and it has to be sprayed on?

[storm jungle]

Thats what the RPG supplements say

[storm jungle]

They kinda do?

The Vindicare Temple has a long-standing pact with the Adeptus Mechanicus to craft these exquisite suits, each one combining Cameleoline-laced materials with a complex version of "synskin" to allow its wearer to blend in with his environment.

but as you can see its just "altered"

[plush mason]

i see

[storm jungle]

Yeah not a big thing, but pretty curious

[plush mason]

also do the other assassin just carry around spray cans of synskin?

[storm jungle]

Nah its applied before mission deployment

its not really explained how its ever "put on"

[plush mason]

hell i wouldnt be surprised if there was a vat of the stuff and they under went a ritual bath to apply it before their mission deployment

[storm jungle]

Yeah it usually depends with each temple

or you can just be a Eversor aka permanently in a fucking fridge until you are called upon

[plush mason]

yup

[storm jungle]

https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/warhammer40k/images/c/c9/Cryo-Stasis.jpg/revision/latest/scale-to-width-down/641?cb=20110921040535

[plush mason]

arent they also walking chem bombs?

[storm jungle]

Yep. If you manage to damage them really badly they just bloat up and explode as a chembomb

mostly as a last resort

[plush mason]

those guys and gals are one of the most metal things about the imperium imo

[broken bridge]

what kinds of targets is an eversor sent after anyway

[storm jungle]

Indeed.

[storm jungle]

Honestly anyone

their job is more to kill a large group

or a really OP target

[plush mason]

what Dilara said

[storm jungle]

Yeeee

like any assassin could do their job?

But its basically also a terror weapon

Choosing a Temple to send after someone is pretty much like choosing what melee weapon you're gonna chop up someone with

[plush mason]

they are dropped in from orbit while still in cryo and have the mission parameters downloaded into their brains during decent iirc

[storm jungle]

Yep also that

[plush mason]

they are like the winter soldier but 1000x crazier

[storm jungle]

In many ways an Eversor Assassin has more in common with a living bomb than with a human operative. Rather than taking out a single target like the other Officio Assassins, an Eversor Assassin is usually employed to clear a large number of targets in a short amount of time.

In essence, Eversor Assassins are one-person special forces units. In fact, because of the amount of ability-enhancing drugs running through his or her body, when an Eversor Assassin is brought down and killed in combat, the drugs will react violently to the metabolic onset of death and cause the Eversor's corpse to explode, providing a final opportunity for the Assassin to kill the enemies of the Emperor.

[plush mason]

now i really want to see a female eversor

cuz i have only ever seen the male art

[storm jungle]

Yeah female eversors exist in books but artwise they are non-existant

you only get like a female Culexus and its at the cover of a HH book

[plush mason]

missed opportunity

[storm jungle]

https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/eswarhammer40k/images/1/15/Asesina_Iota.jpg/revision/latest/scale-to-width-down/400?cb=20161003145709

[broken bridge]

who an eversoor ever go after a non human target?

[storm jungle]

Yes.

[broken bridge]

like a decenttly power ful csm or something

[storm jungle]

Also yes.

[plush mason]

https://tenor.com/view/scaroused-futurama-philip-fry-gif-17514196

[storm jungle]

Lmao

[storm jungle]

Also here

its a bit of a read but

Sylas Torq was an Eversor Assassin who had a reputation of ill-repute as a psychopathic killer. Thus, he was chosen as part of an Execution Force to take part in the vital mission in the Achyllan System during the 13th Black Crusade. The Sorcerer Lord Severin Drask, of the Crimson Slaughter Renegade Chapter, was intent on utilisng an ancient Chaos construct known as the Temples of Shades to extinguish the system's primary star and create a new Warp Rift that would extend from the Eye of Terror and all the way towards Terra itself. As the Crimson Slaughter led a series of diversionary, murderous raids throughout the Segmentum Obscurus to distract the Imperial forces from their intended target, Drask led a pre-planned raid upon the barely defended world of Achyllan Prime, and quickly swept aside all resistance from the Cadian Astra Militarum Regiments.

During the ensuing battle, thanks in no small part to the efforts of Primaris Psyker Lunst Cataboldine, he was able to pull the plans for the Achyllan Atrocity from the Sorcerer Lord's mind, and sent a desperate astropathic message through the Warp. Though Lunst died in the process, the Imperium learned of Drask's ultimate plan.

To counter this threat, the High Lords of Terra decreed that an Execution Force would be despatched to assassinate Drask and foil his plans. Launching 'Operation Deathblow', the Imperium sent an Execution Force comprised of Eversor Assassin Sylas Torq, Callidus Assassin Klara Rhasc, Culexus Assassin Noctus Kord, Vanus Assassin Kurei Adamta and Vindicare Assassin Viktor Zhau to carry out this vital mission. The Assassins successfully landed upon Achyllan Prime, and were able to locate the Sorcerer Lord's whereabouts, but had to fight wave upon wave of Daemons, Cultists and Chaos Space Marines in order to reach Drask in the Temple of Shades.

In the ensuing battle, it was Sylas Torq who sacrificed himself in order to achieve their objective, by blowing himself up and killing the Sorcerer Lord. Only the Vanus Assassin Adamta survived the mission.

[real stone]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eyrtiXwlyD0

[plush mason]

the Culexus are those ones with the big helmets right? the anti psyker specialist

[storm jungle]

Yep

basically the ones you send to fully eradicate an enemy psyker

[shadow plover]

read Kingmaker

good shit

[plush mason]

my first thought when i first saw them was "the alien human hybrid from alien 3"

[shadow plover]

assassins going after a knight

[storm jungle]

That vindicare getting shit-talked by the callidus is

[plush mason]

or was that in 2 i can never remember

[storm jungle]

Honestly any type matches since they got that long skull like the xenomorphs

Also one famous Culexs short story I like is from an old codex entry where an Eldar craftworld goes off and actually finds the planet which Culexus's are made in.

It has no sun and is literally a pitch black planet. The Farseer is preparing a full-fledged assault there since his sister was murdered by a Culexus

so he divines the fates to see what the battle will be like and just sees his craftworld destroyed as a result in every timeline

so he cancels the attack and changes the courses of the ship, leaving the planet alone

[shadow plover]

hmm, better not

[storm jungle]

Yep

[broken bridge]

holy shuit\

[storm jungle]

its really spooky as well

i cant do it justice

especially since the planet is also out of the range of the astronomican

so its FAR on the Milky Way most likely

[shadow plover]

if it's out of the range of the astronomican how do the temple people find it

[plush mason]

how exactly do the people in the imperium that live outside the astronomican travel?

[storm jungle]

Just by normal ships

so a looong trek

[plush mason]

oof

[storm jungle]

but you cant really be out of range? Like maybe barely if you are at the edge of the milky way?

Since it mostly encompasses the entire galaxy, the Segmentums of the imperium are based on its borders

[plush mason]

oh i thought it didnt reach that far

[storm jungle]

According to the books it has a reliable range of 50,000 light years.

[plush mason]

50k............

[shadow plover]

missed opportunity

[storm jungle]

lmao

it sfine

some books say its 70k or 30k

because warhammer

[plush mason]

still thats not even a fraction of the milkyway

[shadow plover]

it's half

[storm jungle]

If it helps, look at this in the lexicanum

even they got no idea

[shadow plover]

lol

[real stone]

Essentially, it goes as far as they need it to for the plot

[storm jungle]

Yeah that

[shadow plover]

70k seems pretty accurate because then it would reach both ends of the milky way, terra being a bit more on the western side

[plush mason]

nvm the milky way is only 52k light years across

[storm jungle]

for example Warmaster Macharius expanded some portion of the Imperium's borders to the edge of the Milky Way but then couldnt go further because his army didnt want to travel beyond the light and range of the astronomican

get it

[plush mason]

andromeda is 110k

[storm jungle]

like alexander the great?

[shadow plover]

isn't it a bit over 100k?

[plush mason]

nope thats andromeda

[shadow plover]

are you reading the radius or diameter

[plush mason]

radius. diameter is 100 to 200k

[storm jungle]

The segmentums are basically the best range you can get of the Astronomican

with earth being at the center of it

however its also important to remember that the more you move away from the astronomican the more difficult traveling gets

since its basically a lighthouse

[plush mason]

why the fuck is the ultima segmentum so damn big?

[storm jungle]

Its never explained

[shadow plover]

because terra isn't centered to the galaxy and each segmentum is about 90° arc from it

[storm jungle]

^ that too

the GW guys making the segmentums IRL probably just said that to each other

and drew the arcs around it

[shadow plover]

that's pretty much my reasoning, no in lore explanation afaik

[storm jungle]

Yeah theres nothing

[plush mason]

that works

[storm jungle]

they probably drew the left segmentums

then went

"Ah fuck, we forgot that part, uhhh just extend the lines"

✏️

[shadow plover]

But I do like the asymmetrical look of it

[storm jungle]

Same

its not a perfect circle either which is great

with some portions going outward/inward

[plush mason]

its hard to make a circle of a spiral

[storm jungle]

lmao yeah

[plush mason]

here is the real milky way

[storm jungle]

Yeee, 40k's is a lot more stylized

mostly because they probably couldn't be arsed which I cant blame them, I wouldnt either

https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/warhammer40k/images/1/17/Wh40k_starmap.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20090226111632

[shadow plover]

how much would the galaxy shift in 38k years

like is that taken into account at all

[storm jungle]

Nope

[shadow plover]

if it even would noticeably

[plush mason]

unknown afaik

[storm jungle]

40k is the same universe where everyone forgets space is 3D

so i doubt they take any IRL stuff into account

and just yolo it

[shadow plover]

well they do make a point of some of the hive fleet tendrils coming from "below" or "above" of the galaxy

[storm jungle]

Yup

i think thats like THE only time they acknowledge that lmao

[plush mason]

i cant wait for the 4th. and the 5th and the 6th and the so forth and so on

[storm jungle]

https://external-preview.redd.it/7ILxJby90IKWmI_Ema3-gL6slmj5yVGkwjorfsz4faE.jpg?auto=webp&s=9fc2111981e369f9174f89faea96fcf7583f224d

[plush mason]

if they ever decide to do to 40k what they did to fantasy battles the nids are the best option for that

[shadow plover]

the 9th edition map was pretty nifty

[plush mason]

well yeah the galaxy was almost ripped in half

[storm jungle]

Nah its fine guys

we found a way through the rift

so much for that

[plush mason]

is it not expanding still?

[storm jungle]

Its stationary atm

[plush mason]

LOL

[storm jungle]

Yeah its basically a scar

but like, also a literal spawnzone

for anything chaos to come out of it

since the gods just took the Eye and stretched it on microsoft paint

[plush mason]

LOL

[storm jungle]

So realistically speaking the 90% of Imperial planets should be entirely overrun

since demons wont fucking stop coming out of those red areas

[plush mason]

but plot armor

[storm jungle]

Pretty much

that and we gotta sell toys

[plush mason]

yup

thats why the plot armor exists

[storm jungle]

🙏

[shadow plover]

I do like the gauntlet story so far, think it's interesting

though I'm not too well versed in it, haven't read any of the book releases myself

[storm jungle]

1 sec fam I got u

[atomic pelican]

Have u seen the video summarizing it?

It's actually real good

[storm jungle]

Yeah either watch the vids or follow this guy

https://www.reddit.com/r/ShaskaisWarhamBits/

He summarises Codex and Warzone releases really well

he just released a finale summary of the Nachmund storyline a day ago

Rakarth does some trolling in it

[shadow plover]

that takes some commitment

[atomic pelican]

holy fuck rakarth came back?

[storm jungle]

Yup

[atomic pelican]

He hasnt done anything in like

Forever

[storm jungle]

YE

Wait let me get it

his part is really small but

fucking memey

The Fate of Bade:

The Urien Rakarth came to the Nachmund Gauntlet looking for a fresh supply of flesh for his experiments. He knew that the population of a human world would be able to sustain his scientific and artistic pursuits for several months.

Urien selected a suitable world. It contained a sizeable population of 20 billion and it was isolated from the conflict between the Imperial and Chaos forces. It would have been easy to take the world by force or threat but Urien had others ideas for the planet.

He wanted the humans to willingly give themselves to his care. He wanted them to be grateful for the opportunity and then watch their joy twist into horror when they realize what he has in store for them in the Dark City. It would be a moment he would so relish.

Urien bid his minions cut all communication from and to the planet. For this task, they used torture engines that were linked to human and alien nulls. The torture engines amplified the nulls' abilities and extended them to cover a vast area. This way no psychic communication can leave or enter the planet.

Urien baited an Ork fleet to the planet. It was an external force that threatened the humans but it was within his abilities to defeat it. The Ork invasion would kill many humans but end result would be worth the loss.

Urien watched patiently as the Orks and humans fought. He waited until the humans became desperate enough to accept his aid. When that time came, Urien and his allies sprang into action. Urien's own coven and their allies were given strict orders not to harm the humans. The slaughter, for now, was directed at the greenskins. It was a staged war but the Orks were still dangerous foes. Many Drukhari lost their lives to Ork choopas and guns. Urien ensured that the least liked of his followers or allies were positioned in the most dangerous warzones.

As the Drukhari extended aid to the Imperial defenders and civilians, gradually they earned the humans' trust. Soon both Drukhari and humans fought side by side securing victory over the Greenskins. In the great victory celebration, Urien was honored by the planet governor.

Urien offered the governor to relocate the population of Bade to his "homeworld" where they will find sanctuary from the Orks and other threats. The governor agreed to this offer. In the months that followed, the Drukhari transported billions of humans to the flesh farms of the Dark City where they became playthings to the cruelest of sadists and fodder for Urien's experiments. From their tortured flesh, Urien fashioned some of his newest horrific creations proving to all his mastery over his craft.

https://tenor.com/view/we-do-a-little-trolling-trolling-trolled-troll-wwe-gif-20809728

[atomic pelican]

LMAO

[storm jungle]

THE GOVERNOR

TRUSTED A GUY

LOOKING LIKE THIS

HOW SMOOTHBRAINED DID THOSE HIVE CITY FUMES MAKE YOU

[atomic pelican]

Tbf hes not much worse looking than your average ancient noble

[storm jungle]

ok actually fair point

[plush mason]

lol

[shadow plover]

There is just so much going on in Nachmund I wonder is anyone truly fully aware of everything that has happened there

[plush mason]

ofc not

[storm jungle]

Oh boy

you should see the last post from Shaskais

its a fucking MESS

[shadow plover]

I tried to read it a bit but couldn't concentrate enough

[storm jungle]

LMAO

yeah it has so much shit

[shadow plover]

dyslexia doesn't help, the biggest reason I prefer audiobooks

and this shit doesn't get an audio release

[storm jungle]

Yep

you either gotta soldier through and read it or just dont lmao

[plush mason]

yeah my own dyslexia is why i dont read all of these books and web pages lol

[shadow plover]

Indeed, I've gone through all of mainline Horus Heresy novels through Audible (or humble bundle). Only took me a bit less than 2 years to catch up on releases

think it was around Mortis, that one had a much later audio release compared to the physical book iirc

speaking of Horus Heresy, can't fucking wait for the new edition's release next month

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/735819155608961044/802253683286999070/storm-vermin.gif

Will probably start a Sons of Horus army

(or Night Lords, or Death Guard, or World Eaters)

[cerulean wagon]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C3a6zzNW8AAo49E?format=jpg&name=small

@storm jungle

[storm jungle]

sigh

[cunning wigeon]

tf is a face eater?

[cerulean wagon]

https://wh40k.lexicanum.com/mediawiki/images/c/c1/Faceeater.JPG

https://preview.redd.it/lgb69uqp4fg51.jpg?width=640&crop=smart&auto=webp&s=bd7895bfcafd8404bda54a13d95ebd5dff05b84d

https://i.redd.it/4rzfjvqp4fg51.jpg

effectivley deadly flesh towels

[cunning wigeon]

what do they like dissolve you or something

[cerulean wagon]

yes

they latch on and then secrete acid

[vapid tiger]

lmao

40k is monty python moment

[rose thorn]

im pretty mixed about sisters of battle, but i also dont know much of their lore

[frosty cobalt]

They were in response to the church being told that they couldnt have a standing army of Men, also made as eye candy for the higher ups of the church

Smth like that im not too well versed too

[cursive hull]

TLDR:

The Sisterhood is indeed a result of trying to get around the rule that the Ecclesiarchy cannot have men under arms.

But also from an elite all female guard that a particular crazy person made at one point.

Rather than throwing this life guard detachment into the bin, they were adopted by the Ecclesiarchy instead

The greater bulk of Battle Sisters are at least slightly crazy.

The worst offenders are very crazy.

But they're mostly just fanatical

Space Marines? Vile mutants.

Imperial Guard not following orders? Heretics not following the word of their superiors who must be burned.

They're normal human women in power armor.

The middle ground if you will, between Guard and Marines.

[broken bridge]

they dont get any bio enhancements?

[brittle nebula]

Non that I know of

They are just plain old default vanilla ass Women.

[cursive hull]

No

They're entirely without modification. They can however, like all Imperial citizens, receive bionics like cybernetic eyes n shit

[cerulean wagon]

only mods they have is the plugs for the suit

[brittle nebula]

Cyber tits? Fuck me I had to say that. 🙄

[cerulean wagon]

did you want us to clap?

[brittle nebula]

No I’m just wishing I didn’t send that.

[cerulean wagon]

then dont

ez

[brittle nebula]

I am realizing how much of a degenerate I have become.

https://tenor.com/view/facepalm-picard-star-trek-the-next-generation-disappointed-gif-23456183

[plucky moth]

“Become”

[broken bridge]

back to the sob does that mean that technically karskins are stronger since iirc they do receive some for of gene enhancements

i could be thinking of the wrong people

[plush mason]

in dow1 they could be given limited gene modding but idk if thats canon

also the sob still have better armor and weapons that the karskin afaik

[cursive hull]

Considering Karskins are just wearing the best standard armor (Carapace) and SoB wear power armor which enhances their strength and endurance?

Nah, Karskins aren't superior, physically.

But, yes. Outside of their armor, the SoB are basically just bog standard humans

Which is why Sister Repentia squads are, you know, basically a punishment detail.

[plush mason]

and the obligatory thirst magnets

[signal hill]

One morsel about sob seems to be that they have an unique (or at least very strong) Link to the imperial faith, which is used as deus ex machina to explain them withstanding unlikely odds
Also it is in the rules here and there iirc but don't ask me about Details for that
And their living Saints are kinda imperial daemons

[final spruce]

Lore wise Kaskrin get small gene enhancements and body mods in a 1v1 without armour it will give em an edge.

However like you said, power armour is busted and is worth more than the gene mods the kaskrins get.

[barren tapir]

It depend on the scions, some are trained on high gravity worlds that let them develop stronger musculature normally

[storm jungle]

This is why they were updated appearance-wise with their latest minis lol

[final spruce]

Didnt stop you though

[storm jungle]

[final spruce]

Sisters make for a good counterpart to marines

[brittle nebula]

I still kind of wish they were genetically modified though. It would make more sense then just being really really faithful.

But then again they would just be like any other space marine.

[storm jungle]

Its not just being "really faithful" though

they got pretty advanced equipment and training on par with Scions

they go through pretty high-end stuff to even be basic battle-sisters let alone any high ranks above that

[brittle nebula]

I know there’s more then just faith. I was just making a point.

[storm jungle]

[tender igloo]

i always did like sisters of battle for their ability to go toe-to-toe with a space marine and be on equal footing or in some cases surpass them.

[brittle nebula]

I’d say there smaller size plus the power armor and intense training makes them just as fast.

Not a flat out spring though

[storm jungle]

Sisters also work as shock-troops so they usually tend to take most other things by numbers and firepower too

otherwise they can die just as much as anyone

[brittle nebula]

I feel sorry for that one marine with the scarab problem.

[tender igloo]

call pest control for the poor lad

[storm jungle]

Dont worry all the other scarabs just left them alone

they know to respect plot armor 🙏

[brittle nebula]

https://tenor.com/view/space-marine-warhammer40k-flamer-flame-thrower-fire-gif-15886552

[final spruce]

Id argue above since scions dont even get PA

[brittle nebula]

I just remembered that one time in the old lore during the age of apostasy that some Grey Knights killed several Sisters and bathed in there blood. Is that still even cannon?

[crisp heath]

No

Matt Ward moment

[brittle nebula]

Good because that moment made no sense

[storm jungle]

It was after the Age of Apostasy and around modern 40k

but yeah it got soft-retconned next edition

[alpine ingot]

It was a rather lucid moment where GW went "wow, this makes absolutely no sense at all. Why did you think this was okay to write?"

[storm jungle]

Matt Ward has said that it was to make the Grey Knights look like absolute assholes. Which is understandable but like

Have them murder more civilians or something, not that

[rose thorn]

What the fuck is a Phobos marine and why does their existent make me irrationally annoyed. Like they have their own warlord traits and everything what the fuck are they

[tender igloo]

an attempt to appeal to the tacti-cool people which only kind of sort of worked, but also was just an excuse to release new space marine stuff

[cerulean wagon]

they are marines

therefore, they suck

[broken bridge]

i dont hate it

[storm jungle]

Another variant of the Mk.X is the Mk.X Reiver or Phobos pattern. The suit’s lighter-weight ceramite and streamlined design allow for greater mobility, and its servo-motors are engineered to be completely silent. The design however sacrifices protection for stealth and speed.
As their name suggests, they are used by Reiver Squads and Vanguard Space Marine Squads.

Also what Terror and Skelly said

they basically were made with tacticool in mind first

the lore for them came later

[tender igloo]

i like it too and even i say as someone who genuinely loves space marines, it was not necessary

[shadow plover]

infiltrators are really nice but the rest are pretty whatever

well the cap is cool too

[storm jungle]

I like the reason for the skull mask

"to intimidate enemies"

yeah like im not gonna be scared by a fucking walking tank ripping my spine out as it charges at me

https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/warhammer40k/images/8/81/Reivers2.PNG/revision/latest?cb=20170711081848

[tender igloo]

may as well double up on the intimidation tactics

[storm jungle]

Imma double up on you in a second

[crisp heath]

I like Phobos marines.. i'm pretty in for tacticool 😔 please don't judge me cuz i start and Sororitas army and next some Primaris

[tender igloo]

hot

[broken bridge]

i actually like this a lot

[rose thorn]

I don’t hate hate it

[tender igloo]

i don't mind the aesthetic at all

[rose thorn]

But I hate the taticool aesthetic

I liked the classic Roman look

Of first born

[tender igloo]

it really does hinge on whether or not you like tacti-cool

[rose thorn]

Yeah

[cerulean wagon]

i just hate that it makes no sense

"ye its the stealth power armour"

dude plus armour weight 2t all in

[crisp heath]

Should i start WB army or Raven Guard Army...

[cerulean wagon]

same reason i hate the stealth dreadnought

[rose thorn]

…. Excuse me?

[tender igloo]

which color scheme do you like more

[cerulean wagon]

you heard

[shadow plover]

Can't dislike my tacticool dudes 😎

[rose thorn]

EXCUSE ME WHAT

[crisp heath]

World Bearer

[cerulean wagon]

https://external-preview.redd.it/lSUWwQKTN_XMYwhZE3u4x7_70Gu-GT2QsLim65BW_lw.jpg?width=640&crop=smart&auto=webp&s=9a5bcb4071d3c2ec7609127cd40b95e4aed6b296

[shadow plover]

it's not a dreadnought per se

[tender igloo]

your ultramarines paint jobs are very inspired

[cerulean wagon]

DESIGNED FOR STEALTH

[storm jungle]

HOW THE FUCK

[rose thorn]

WHAT?!

[shadow plover]

Thanks!

[broken bridge]

nO

[tender igloo]

then i say go word bearers

[broken bridge]

what is the god damn point

[rose thorn]

I THOUGHT IT WAS LIKE THAT MECH SUIT FOR THE GREY KNIGHTS

[cerulean wagon]

SPACE MARINE CAN INTO STEALTH

HE NO HAVE NO DOWNSIDE BECAUSE HE DO THE BIG SILENT

[tender igloo]

i think people would be less mad if it had been called like a scout mech or something

[cerulean wagon]

even then

scout

dread

[rose thorn]

And the baneblade in the dark age of technology was a scout tank

[cerulean wagon]

"dreadnought" literally means "fear nothing"

[rose thorn]

And they forgot how to make it go fast

[barren tapir]

This remind me of creed scouting with titans

[cerulean wagon]

and boi, do i fear getting shot in my exposed roll cagge

[shadow plover]

It's more of a scout mech than a stealth dread

[tender igloo]

i agree

[cerulean wagon]

thats not even true im pretty sure thats a community meme

because it makes no fucking sense

[barren tapir]

It is more a dumb abomination that anything else

[storm jungle]

Inb4 the Techmarine C4's the Scout Mech

[rose thorn]

To be honest I have no clue if we would be ever to see if it’s true

[shadow plover]

it has a heavy bolter as a pistol which totally redeems it with the cool factor alone

[tender igloo]

look i won't lie, i have an affinity for this goofy looking stuff simply because it makes me laugh

like this guy

[rose thorn]

My favorite thing to do on the 40K wiki is to look at the stuff that’s marked ‘need citation’

[broken bridge]

https://tenor.com/view/gollum-gif-20509232

[cerulean wagon]

we already can, baneblades are slow, lowd and fucking huge. in what world is it designed for any form of scouting

[shadow plover]

look at this amazing thing

[tender igloo]

i unironically love my little space marine go kart

as bad as it is

[barren tapir]

In the world where scouting mean just thing you use to attract fire and see where enemy is

[cursive hull]

In fairness having your mech hold its gun isn't new

[rose thorn]

I heard that they lost the parts to make the baneblade go fast or something

[cursive hull]

That's been a thing forever.

[shadow plover]

no but it's cool

[cerulean wagon]

[rose thorn]

I forget is thsi the stand in for primaris bikers?

[cursive hull]

Also, the Baneblade will never, and has never, gone fast.

[rose thorn]

O

[cursive hull]

Its lucky that it goes as fast as it does

[cerulean wagon]

send me back to before primaris

[cursive hull]

Which isn't very

[shadow plover]

outriders are the primaris bikers

[tender igloo]

no it is more like a primaris attack bike equivalent

if you can even call it that

[cerulean wagon]

id sacrifice the guard not getting the update they are never getting anyway to not have any of this

[rose thorn]

Oooo

https://www.games-workshop.com/resources/catalog/product/920x950/99120101285_SMOutridersLead.jpg

[barren tapir]

I think i have to agree, but my grudge is against the awful new Ad. Mech. models

[cerulean wagon]

mood

[barren tapir]

Cowboys and archeotopter

[rose thorn]

WAIT THEY NEVER FIXED THE MAIN ISSUE WITH THE FUCKING BIKE THAT THEGUNS ONLY FACE FORWARDV?

[cerulean wagon]

admech fliers make me vomit

[cursive hull]

I still say the mounted bike equivs for the Ad Mech are fine

[barren tapir]

Fuck yes

[cursive hull]

Its not that big a deal

The fliers I can understand as offending tastes

[barren tapir]

The archeotopter is an abomination, valkyrie should have been made available

[rose thorn]

Tbh I love this model

[barren tapir]

Also yeet the awful flying BS infantry

[tender igloo]

i will always hate this though

[shadow plover]

that's pretty much the only model that I really dislike in the whole range

[rose thorn]

Gonna be honest. I’ve never seen the issue with it

[cerulean wagon]

exposed man

defeats purpose of dread, is supposed to be better dread

[barren tapir]

No they aren't fine, they are awful

[cursive hull]

How?

Its mounted robocav

[shadow plover]

they're fucking neat

[brittle nebula]

to quote the Emperor. "baby carriage." TTS quote

[rose thorn]

Do grey knights even have dreads?

[tender igloo]

i think it looks great

[barren tapir]

Exactly because of that

[shadow plover]

yes

[rose thorn]

HuH

[cerulean wagon]

: )

[tender igloo]

just venerable dreadnoughts i think

[brittle nebula]

they are mostly support dreads

[shadow plover]

these are fucking great

[rose thorn]

THEY ARE AMAIZNG

Idk rules wise

But I love them

[barren tapir]

They are awful

[cursive hull]

https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/humankind_gamepedia_en/images/c/c7/Dragoons.png/revision/latest?cb=20210222090723

[barren tapir]

I mean for models

[cursive hull]

Dragoons

[rose thorn]

I’d love to make an admech Calvary army

[barren tapir]

Give me an advanced dirt bike like the damn omnissaish command dammit!

Or better yet, since they now have anti grav tech out of their asses, give me anti grav bike!!!

[cursive hull]

Although, ironically, those are giant dog bots, not horsebots.

Which is fun.

[cerulean wagon]

humankind 🙏

[cursive hull]

I hear mixed things about Humankind

I have considered it though

[shadow plover]

The flamer one is nice as well but I prefer the one I posted first

[cerulean wagon]

i think its fun, looking forward to more updates

[cursive hull]

I might pick it up someday

For now, I'm needing to save my cash, given I just spent almost 350 USD for a new Graphics Card

[shadow plover]

How can you dislike this Silver

[cursive hull]

If all goes well, I'll be able to get that Dune game, and then I'm entirely out of personal spending money for the next several paydays.

[tender igloo]

i will give the GW art team credit, they have never let me down when it comes to the aesthetics of each faction

[shadow plover]

I agree

[barren tapir]

I don't dislike it... I despise it...

[rose thorn]

I have some admech cowboy heads, actually hey is there any good admech subfactions for like a raiders army?

[barren tapir]

Mostly because i don't feel it as part of Ad. Mech.

I still remember the meme where a genestealer was riding a bike and using guns and a cowboy abomination was trying to catch him with a sword

[tender igloo]

i am really digging all the new chaos art and models coming out especially

[barren tapir]

Well, i have nothing against their head, or the model of the rider tbh, it is the mount the problem for me

[rose thorn]

I think it works well! They are very steampunk and Diesel punk

[shadow plover]

hell yeah

[barren tapir]

Eehhhhh, i like both of those styles, but i think they would have done a better job at giving them bikes

[cerulean wagon]

i think the dog robots fits tbh, i'd believe the admech are petty enough to make cyber versions of organisms

[shadow plover]

Bikes aren't ad mech

[barren tapir]

Yes they are

[rose thorn]

Bikes are too civilian for them

[cursive hull]

Its less diesel punk and more... What's the word...

[shadow plover]

they literally do silly walkers instead of anything with wheels

[tender igloo]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/955588087180849263/966932257522724864/20220422_002234.jpg chosen have been my focus for the moment when it comes to painting. then my next one is onto a forgefiend

[shadow plover]

ad mech is either tracks or legs on their vehicles

[cursive hull]

Its like the drawings that Da Vinci

Did

Like

[barren tapir]

Oh come on, i said bikes but we all know they would have been unique, like the SM ones, that are blocky and seems a single piece of metal

[shadow plover]

Very cool

[barren tapir]

A lot of stuff is stated to be of Leonardo, when in reality it was added later

I constantly see this

People like to assign to Leonardo a lot of things he never did

And, i don't want to be discriminatory with this, or offensive, i see mostly americans doing this

[rose thorn]

I feel like it wouldn’t really work for admech, I mean how many of their models even have wheels?

[barren tapir]

That would make them unique!

[shadow plover]

but a giant robot dog is more unique

and more ad mech

[barren tapir]

And also more awful

[cursive hull]

I was being broad on purpose

[barren tapir]

Nooooooooo

[cursive hull]

Surely Da Vinci did draw something

Hence why I wasn't specifying one

[rose thorn]

But it’s bikes, admech always over complicate things, ‘no dumbass you can’t tighten that bolt. You need to get 12 guys worshiping it first.’

[barren tapir]

Lets open the can of sacred oil

[rose thorn]

‘No we can’t use the lesser human bikes, we need giant chicken walkers with plasma powered rail guns and 12 foot tasers’

[cursive hull]

In theory, the dog-horse design allows for better traveling over rough and uneven terrain than a bike would.

Excepting for the idea that one could use hover tech instead.

[barren tapir]

Yeah, like the new tanks they got

[rose thorn]

Side note, I love the new squat’s hover bikes.

[barren tapir]

Which aren't that great, but at least feel Ad. Mech. to me

[shadow plover]

ye it's great

[rose thorn]

I’d totally get a leagues of what ever the hell it’s called and make a bike sentric army

[barren tapir]

Votann

[rose thorn]

Or hover sentric

[cursive hull]

The leagues make me sad

[barren tapir]

It is quite simple to remember

[rose thorn]

Thank you votann

[barren tapir]

Me too, i was expecting them to be less "dwarfs in space"

[cursive hull]

I was expecting something a bit more unique, yeah.

There are ways to do the same traits as dwarves without being dwarves

Stares at Klingons

[rose thorn]

I think they are super unique, admech took the steam punk mantle so the leagues went with a bit more classic scifi and like, diving suit style

[shadow plover]

Well we've only seen two models and a half a page of lore so far

[rose thorn]

Like they look like if you slap a helmet on their mech guys you would have a big daddy

[cursive hull]

The Leagues are faulty clones with the same artistic aesthetic as the Dawi from WHFB.

It works in WHFB, it does not in 40k.

[shadow plover]

I don't really see the same artistic aesthetic

[cursive hull]

Same runes, same etchings, same statue designs.

[rose thorn]

????

I, don’t see it

Old squats were like that yeah

[cursive hull]

https://www.warhammer-community.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/04/ak3AleqQ6Za7qypx.jpg

[rose thorn]

?????

[cursive hull]

So that face doesn't look like those carvings on those shields?

https://www.warhammer-community.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/04/DvV1IxenyZXXaI59.jpg

Look at this chap's armor

[rose thorn]

I kinda see, but they also look very diving suit esq, it’s not really the same and feel more inspired

[cursive hull]

Are you telling me those embellishments and other additional decorations aren't stenciled on from the WHFB style of Dawi runic decroation?

[rose thorn]

Also they are basically equivalents

[shadow plover]

WHFB runes look a lot more nordic, these are scifi runes

[cursive hull]

???

[rose thorn]

‘Yeah these are dwarves in 40k’
‘Yeah these are orcs in 40k’

‘Yeah these are elves in 40K’

[rose thorn]

Also I can not tell every time an orc model is released if it’s 40K or AOS from a glance, literally it’s the easiest kit bash ever to make an AOS work into 40K

For orks

[dusk knot]

what about chaos demons

[rose thorn]

they are literally the same models lmao

[dusk knot]

yes

[rose thorn]

It’s hilarious

I love it

I was considering getting a khrone army just so I can spray paint them red and have an army for 40K and AOS done in like an hour

[dusk knot]

speaking of

world eater codex

very excite

[rose thorn]

HYPEEEE

I use to hate khrone but while playing Dawn of war 2 they grew on me so quickly

[shadow plover]

That one makes me more hyped for the inevitable Emperors Children Codex (in 5 years maybe)

[dusk knot]

khorne is my boy

I hope they get some good models

[rose thorn]

YESSS I LICE EMPERORS CHILDREN SO MUCH

Love*

I actually think they might get one in 10th edition

[shadow plover]

yeah and their model range is very lacking

as is world eaters'

[rose thorn]

The leak that got everything right so far said they are getting new stuff

EC I mean

[shadow plover]

did it?

[rose thorn]

Yeah

Sonic dread naught and noise marines actually

[dusk knot]

the world eaters have 2 exclusive models basically

Kharn and the beserkers

[rose thorn]

I heard they are getting like, 2 more new modes

Models*

[shadow plover]

yea and the berserkers look like ass

[rose thorn]

But also WEs aren’t too crazy different from rest of chaos? So that’s all they need

[shadow plover]

prolly Angron

[rose thorn]

Like looking at an old WE army it’s was mostly just berserkers

[shadow plover]

they'll probably get a whole bunch of unique shit now that it will be a whole codex for them

[tender igloo]

maybe a couple khorne daemon engines as well

[shadow plover]

looking at Thousand Sons and Death Guard

[rose thorn]

I’m just curious how the sub factions will work

[dusk knot]

maybe like a berserker helbrutes?

[rose thorn]

They are probably having the master of executions transition to their codex too

[crisp heath]

Angron

[rose thorn]

Fulgrim and angron for chaos

[crisp heath]

Chad

[dusk knot]

the lion

[rose thorn]

Loyal uhhh, shit idk

Who is the raven guard primarch?

[dusk knot]

corvuus corax

[crisp heath]

I think my favorite Loyalist is Dorn or The Lion

[rose thorn]

Yeah him, mainly because he became a daemon

Fuck should I get the daemons of khrone start collecting?

I get paid tomorrow

[dusk knot]

mfw you have no income ;-;

[crisp heath]

I want to start building an Imperial Guard army but I heard there are new models coming soon for them so I might wait

[rose thorn]

???

[dusk knot]

I don't work, I'm a student

[rose thorn]

Oh

[crisp heath]

No money

I want these

[dusk knot]

drip

[crisp heath]

So drip

They need more official guard models that aren’t Cadian or catachan

[dusk knot]

yeah

I want mordians

[crisp heath]

That would be awesome

[rose thorn]

Fuck should I get the khornstart collecting?

I want to get into AOS and I play 40K

And they look easy to paint too

[crisp heath]

I want official models of Ventrillian Nobels so I wouldn’t have to kit bash if I wanted to make them

[rose thorn]

Fuck it I bought it

Shits been rough and I wanted to get my mind off stuff

[crisp heath]

https://tenor.com/view/warhammer40k-angron-primarch-angry-ultra-angry-gif-17080819

[rose thorn]

Yessss

[crisp heath]

World Eaters are the best

[rose thorn]

I love emperors children so much

But world eaters are my second favorite

[real stone]

https://tenor.com/view/why-not-both-por-que-no-los-dos-yey-gif-15089379

[rose thorn]

Also how can I deny a fucking blood daemon motorcycle

The blood throne is way too metal especially for AOS it’s amazing

I know most AOS daemons work in 40K

Like all of trh daemon start collectings work in both games

[tawdry wyvern]

were these the nobles from gaunts ghosts? that were behaving like utter assholes?

[rose thorn]

So I got a 2 armies for the price of 1 bundle

[crisp heath]

I’ve never read Gaunts Ghosts so idk

[tawdry wyvern]

ah, then probably not

[crisp heath]

They’re an imperial guard regiment

So they aren’t like nobility in that sense

They just got drip

[storm jungle]

Nah

random throwaway regiment in the codex

[crisp heath]

😦 they should get official models

[barren tapir]

From the ghost we get the volpone and the vitrian dragoons iirc

[storm jungle]

^

[barren tapir]

Which are lit btw

[storm jungle]

Was gonna say yeah

https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/warhammer40k/images/c/c7/VitrianDragoon.jpg/revision/latest/scale-to-width-down/250?cb=20201007201121

[tawdry wyvern]

best ones

[crisp heath]

So drip

[storm jungle]

1 sec gonna do an edit

[barren tapir]

Volpone got drip too, but they are elitists shits

[tawdry wyvern]

volpones or blue bloods? they were it probably, wait I'll search it, totally forgot their name

[crisp heath]

As they should be

[barren tapir]

They are the same lol

[crisp heath]

I would too if I was that drippy

Hell the space marines do it all the time

[tawdry wyvern]

yes, I meant the ghosts called them so from time to time

[alpine ingot]

It's the Volpone Blue Bloods

[storm jungle]

Done

Based?

More like dumb af

thats literally out of Austin Powers, Dr Evil would do better

[rose thorn]

Well the pros of thsi su you can make your own lore for them and your own characters with our worrying about lore

[crisp heath]

They deserve no better

[storm jungle]

oh god

not this shit again

[crisp heath]

[storm jungle]

Go back to 2009

pls

[crisp heath]

Yea I’m evil keep moving

[rose thorn]

It’s not that much mind control but yeah their leaders are huge assholes

[crisp heath]

I literally just said I love the World Eaters

[alpine ingot]

you mean in the same book where the fire warriors are constantly getting annoyed with the interference of the ethereal caste?

[storm jungle]

I mean

if you are smart

you will defy the Imperium

[cerulean wagon]

https://tenor.com/view/facade-trip-gameplay-squint-huh-drawing-gif-17518311

[storm jungle]

sorry but i dont wanna die in a factory as my family starves to death

[crisp heath]

It be like that sometimes

[storm jungle]

Are you one of those people that says the Imperium is the good guys, I'm gonna jump into a wall if you do

and please do not compare IRL shit like Rhodesia to the tau

[rose thorn]

The reality is that most likely if you are apart of trh imperium, you can’t leave. Unless you get enough people to join the cause, then you are shit out of luck from that point forward

[storm jungle]

To be fair

[alpine ingot]

on most fringe worlds that do not give a single flying fuck about the civilian populations needs or wants. anything is better then what they are dealing with at that moment.

[storm jungle]

I do like getting shot at the back of the head

[rose thorn]

Lmao

[alpine ingot]

why do you think chaos corruption is so prevalent

[storm jungle]

LOL yeah

theres a chaos cult in like

literally every imperial planet

[barren tapir]

Hey hey hey, where is the video where the gue'vesa tell about being called a traitor?

[rose thorn]

The best way to leave the imperium is tau, or chaos

[storm jungle]

Yeah pretty much

[cerulean wagon]

every planet has multiple traitors

its great

[crisp heath]

I mean you wouldn’t be shot if you just love the emperor enough to die bravely

[barren tapir]

FREEEEEEEDDDDOOOMMMMM!!!!!!!

[storm jungle]

Why would I love a corpse on a chair that doesnt care about me