40k-lore-chat

[obtuse vault]

GUARD FAN

[barren tapir]

We had tons of examples of better civs that could even ally with xenos to kick chaos

[scenic bolt]

there's a reason why guilliman came back

[vapid tiger]

Incompetence and evil that's kept up because the people who reap the benefits from it want to keep it going

[scenic bolt]

and half thought maybe this should just die

[cerulean wagon]

i like guard cause i like dumb scifi military stuff

[plucky moth]

https://tenor.com/view/senate-guard-gif-21513317

[barren tapir]

Also stating that with big G return the imperium was gonna improve... I mean, kinda? Less shit people in power, but that doesn't mean they are not shitty

[vapid tiger]

All guilliman managed to do was replace many high lords with slightly less self centered candidates, make himself regent to give him emergency powers in order to slightly speed up the bureaucracy concerning military matters and let him bypass a lot of bullshit, and editing the codex

[plucky moth]

wait till he finds out big G is boinking a xeno

[vapid tiger]

In all other aspects he has faced so much pushback that uh

He's kind of deadlocked

[barren tapir]

The decent people are very few, and even big G admit that he cannot clean the house as much he want, so where the fuck they get that now the imperium is becoming a good place to live?

[vapid tiger]

And also busy fighting at the same time

[odd sparrow]

there's like eight chaos fans in the entire community

[scenic bolt]

guilliman fixing the imperium is like trying to bail out a sinking boat with a teaspoon

[odd sparrow]

the rest just aren't necessarily that endeared to the fascistic space catholic aesthetic

[scenic bolt]

yea it's technically doing something

[odd sparrow]

which to be clear is valid but

[barren tapir]

Also, there is a fucking event where the concepts of democracy and progress are called heretical!!

[vapid tiger]

Guy haley sees this, has a panic attack and quickly scribbles down a racist monologue from guilliman about him wanting to genocide the ynnari "once their use is expended" like hitler talking about mussolini

wait that happened thanks godblight

[plush mason]

the fall of cyreine right?

[barren tapir]

Nope

[plucky moth]

cawl and guli gonna replace the imperium with primarium

[plush mason]

lol

[barren tapir]

A part of the 4th quadrant rebellion

Susalid campaign to be precise

[obtuse vault]

who is big g and who is he boinking

this i MUST know

[barren tapir]

Although we have a democracy system in one hive of necromunda

[plush mason]

oh cuz the blood raven's home world was exterminatused for trying to start a democracy iirc

[barren tapir]

Nah, they were mutated in some way

[scenic bolt]

guilliman's boinking yvraine

[vapid tiger]

Blood ravens did the genocide themselves with the help of the Inquisition but yeah it was for some sort of mutant outbreak or some shit

[obtuse vault]

[barren tapir]

Although it is never stated which type of mutation, and knowing the imperium could also be that they wanted a different government that a feudal one

[vapid tiger]

Yeah

[plucky moth]

big Guiliman is boinking hokma

[barren tapir]

TBF seeing how much blood ravens have psykers it could have been an extreme development of psychic stuff that warped the people

[odd sparrow]

Bet Guiliman absolutely sucks at it

im thinking like

[vapid tiger]

Guilliman is boinking incan

[cerulean wagon]

must be hard with no penis

[barren tapir]

He sat unmoving for nearly 10K, if he still is capable to bang hard it would be quite impressive

[plush mason]

it still amazes me that the blood ravens are actually canon lol

[plucky moth]

10'000 year nut

[barren tapir]

Why?

[vapid tiger]

Guilliman sees incan and yells "I'M ROMAN" before embracing him

[plush mason]

cuz im use to most video games having their own lore that isnt a part of the wider setting

[odd sparrow]

Gboy - really clinical and rigid, just sucks at creating any atmosphere or mood even if he's aiming for the right spots
Magnus - breaks out the most esoteric kinks
Khan - absolutely phenomenal lover in every way
Angron - violence

[plucky moth]

and I say, Hi Roman, I'm Incan

[barren tapir]

Well, they are the worse type of roman, blue instead of red smh

[vapid tiger]

And then you get boinked by him.

[plucky moth]

based

[vapid tiger]

What a good romcom

[plucky moth]

space marines are gay, it's how it is

[barren tapir]

UUUHHHHHH

[odd sparrow]

correct

no part of marines should scream het to anyone

[cerulean wagon]

GW are pretty free on "if your game is good it gets too exist"
vermintide has been like, enthroned into lore aswell

[plush mason]

i see

[odd sparrow]

HELLO BATTLE BROTHER
GREETINGS BATTLE BROTHER
YOUR MUSCLES GLEAN WITH FERVOUS INTENSITY TONIGHT BATTLE BROTHER

[scenic bolt]

gw's somewhat hands on with the games as far as lore

[plucky moth]

BROTHER I AM STUCK IN THE VALKYRIE

[barren tapir]

I heard that the dark angel termi game is canon

[vapid tiger]

GW apparently does get stingy about lore shit concerning vidya games but still

[odd sparrow]

BROTHER WE'RE GENETIC MATCHES FROM DIFFERENT FAMILIES IM UNSURE OF THE ETHICS OF THIS

[cerulean wagon]

so
Blood ravens are real
Captain titus is real
the U5 exist, and infact can be summoned in TWWH2 (and have a reference in the WHF 4e RPG)

[vapid tiger]

It's weird that some people think GW makes warhammer video games

[barren tapir]

I heard that this is changing

[odd sparrow]

Obligatory reminder that canon is fake

[barren tapir]

Like, they are being more strict on which can get into the game, and that they are actually looking for someone to take care of the general lore

[cerulean wagon]

you're fake

[odd sparrow]

i am quite real

[cerulean wagon]

prove it

[vapid tiger]

Fuck you james workshop, the primarchs were all women!

[odd sparrow]

tf do you live boneboy

[barren tapir]

British civil war part 2, or 3, noice

[atomic pelican]

https://tenor.com/view/crying-emoji-dies-gif-21956120

ratty when phil kelly writes her out of existence

[odd sparrow]

if it's down south i wont come down to assault you

i have standards

[vapid tiger]

I'm down south

[barren tapir]

Wow, this is getting interesting

[plucky moth]

Ratty becomes canon

but in Ohio

[cerulean wagon]

it is, but not like, cornwall south, thank god

[odd sparrow]

you'll be six feet down south

[vapid tiger]

south of deez nuts

[barren tapir]

Two giants facing each other

[cerulean wagon]

please put me 6ft under 🙏

grant me escape

[plucky moth]

newcastle upon deez

[odd sparrow]

mood

[vapid tiger]

Can't believe it

The br*ts are awake

[odd sparrow]

fantasy world idea

[barren tapir]

So, no british civil war anymore?

[odd sparrow]

one of the settings set on the corpses of like gods or other gigantic entities

and you get towns named after the body parts they're built upon

andhaven upon collarbone

[vapid tiger]

Me when phil kelly is announced as writing yet another xenos book where they suck ass

[odd sparrow]

bellforth upon testes

[atomic pelican]

honestly the farsight novels actually aren't that bad imo

I don't really like fartsight myself but

He's pretty Win in them so I'm told

[odd sparrow]

I read some of the farsight stuff, it's not bad

[atomic pelican]

Gav Thorpe is the real devil

[vapid tiger]

Reminder of the fire warrior killing herself due to ETHEREAL MIND CONTROL !!!!!111

[plucky moth]

fantasy settings be like "just give everything welsh names"

[odd sparrow]

Not amazingly written and it misses some of the important tau beats but it's not awful

[odd sparrow]

cus welsh is literally a fantasy language cmon

I live here

[atomic pelican]

I know the segment ur talking about and I rlly think it's debatable that it was Le Mind Cuntrol

[odd sparrow]

i see welsh every day and it still looks like elvish

[cerulean wagon]

Farsight is like a mix

It has some good points, but also its kinda like.. it feels like it misses the point it is trying to make?

[vapid tiger]

Yeah my headcanon is that it wasn't

[plucky moth]

Pharsite

[vast frigate]

i terrorize my campaign players by giving all NPC's russian names

[odd sparrow]

iirc the farsight novels don't push the P H E R E M O N E S bs that hard

[scenic bolt]

true facts the tolkien elves are welsh

[atomic pelican]

Yee

[odd sparrow]

they just write the ethereals as disney vilains

not good

but at least they're not ant queens

[cerulean wagon]

how horrifying

[barren tapir]

You are welsh?

[odd sparrow]

imagine elves with actual welsh accents instead of posh english ones

[vast frigate]

it reminds me of the scottish pokemon character

[cerulean wagon]

no, worse ratty

[odd sparrow]

nah I'm just near wales often

[cerulean wagon]

imagine elves speaking welsh

[odd sparrow]

ngl welsh is really pretty as a language

so this is in character

[atomic pelican]

https://tenor.com/view/morshu-zelda-you-will-buy-from-me-gif-16437133

[cerulean wagon]

its also entirely incomprehensible

[vapid tiger]

The pheromones never happened actually it's just a campfire story deathwatch marines tell each other as they duct tape skulls to pulse rifles and make silly anti psyker devices from eldar heads

[atomic pelican]

BL on their way to explain how ethereals, who most tau might see once in their life in person, exhibit le pheremones to control the populace

[vapid tiger]

Real btw

[vast frigate]

the fucking bayonet

it gets me every time

[barren tapir]

The head isn't anti psyker, it is a communication device

[odd sparrow]

i so wanna see a scavenged tau weapon in DT purely cus of that depiction

[cerulean wagon]

honestly i ignore the pheromone stuff and just do ethereals as slimy politicians

[odd sparrow]

like, ik it wont happen

[cerulean wagon]

its more fun

[odd sparrow]

but i want it

Ethereals are mystics

[atomic pelican]

They are already pseudo-psykers on the table

which I love

[vapid tiger]

Deathwatch 9th edition codex b like

"Wait a minute, these guys are not only evil, their original fluff had them be the most racist motherfuckers around!"

[odd sparrow]

they've got superhuman charisma, a pseudo-religious order built around them, and the complete loyalty of billions

[atomic pelican]

Deathwatch and Black Templar are the duo of edgiest player base for marines

[odd sparrow]

That's their gimmick

the whole allure of ~how are they so charismatic~ is broken when it's just heehoo

they fart mind control gas

[vapid tiger]

And then there proceeds to be a weird, weird blurb about how the deathwatch are "the only bulwark against EVIL ALIENS THAT WOULD KILL US OTHERWISE WE MUST TORTURE THEM"

what the fuck are gw writers huffing

[cerulean wagon]

yup, and they are great diplomats

which, i stand by cain doing the best interpretation of tau from an imperial perspective

[odd sparrow]

yeah!!!

I haven't read all the way through cain but I liked what there was

[vapid tiger]

Ethereals just have loaded dice on their charisma rolls

No mind control necessary

[cerulean wagon]

doing everything they can to make a diplomatic envoy off balance, even going so far as to choose guevessa escorts and uncomfortable chairs

[odd sparrow]

grsh i love water caste when they're written well

So slimy

[atomic pelican]

aun'va new canon voice

richard nixon

[odd sparrow]

,,, why

[atomic pelican]

WATER(CASTE)GATE

[odd sparrow]

i just imagine him as the YOU SHOULD KILL YOURSELF <<NOW>> dude

[vapid tiger]

all for that punchline

[atomic pelican]

LMAO

[cerulean wagon]

but ye just

super slimy diplomats

who try everything underhanded they can to achieve a goal

[odd sparrow]

earth caste is understated, humble technicians and innovators with the additional spice of like

half of a moral compass

[atomic pelican]

It wouldn't make sense but I'd love earth caste models

stocky tau

[vapid tiger]

Reminder of the earth caste hero who just makes crazy riptide variants

[odd sparrow]

which conveniently widely accommodates the creation of more war crime machines

[cerulean wagon]

i had non-com earthcaste in my tau only war campaign

[barren tapir]

IIRC we have a single hearth caste tau that actually fought at the frontline

[cerulean wagon]

and made my players feel terrible for killing them

[odd sparrow]

Earth caste writing = more unhinged the better

[odd sparrow]

you're mean

[cerulean wagon]

then dropped an XV-8 into the compound

[odd sparrow]

lmao

[vapid tiger]

Earth caste are just dwarves

[odd sparrow]

They are tbh

[vapid tiger]

Specifically from dwarf fortress

Where they just do unhinged shit

[odd sparrow]

the humble sorta-asshole dwarves

not the WHFB melodramatic dwarves

[cerulean wagon]

it was basically just a bunch of civil engineers working to keep a depot running

[odd sparrow]

they sound like brok from GoW

[atomic pelican]

Waiting on the earth caste to accidentally rip another hole in the galaxy

[cerulean wagon]

and 2 of the players went at them with chainswords

[odd sparrow]

i'll tear another wormhole halfway across the galaxy if it so pleases you son of a bitch

[barren tapir]

Anyway, gotta go, it was fun bashing that lore ignorant and this is a nice discussion, but eh, sleep call...
Good night everyone

[vapid tiger]

"HEY ETHEREAL I MADE THIS BIG STATUE OF SHADOWSUN AND I GAVE IT A DICK CANNON AND I PUT IT ON TOP OF THE HIGHEST BUILDING SO IT CAN DEFEND THE CITY"

[atomic pelican]

Apparently the Tau are showing up in the new warzone book, and they've already been shown to be developing faster warp tech

[odd sparrow]

gfdh ethereal just glares in patriarchal disapproval

[atomic pelican]

So people are thinking the Tau will become a more global player soon

[odd sparrow]

why did we selectively breed a caste this cracked

[odd sparrow]

Cmon GW do it

give them pervasive wormhole technology

so they can spring up literally everywhere in subtle ways

[vapid tiger]

They already have the startide nexus but that only works as an excuse for them to fight blood angels

[odd sparrow]

Lots of tau exclaves around the galaxy, plus occasionally just opening a smol wormhole for diplomatic and trade envoys

so nowhere is safe from the straw hat blueberries

[vapid tiger]

Love how the tau are like

"Man we love diplomacy and aliens! ALSO EUGENICS! WE REALLY REALLY LOVE EUGENICS!"

[cerulean wagon]

give em stargates

fuckin do it

[odd sparrow]

yes

Cmon it's like

[vapid tiger]

"We go harder on eugenics than the fucking actual space nazis!"

[odd sparrow]

a unique way to give them transport around the galaxy

it's not just giving them imp warp drives

it's clunkier in some ways, but better in others

Fits tau perfectly

[cerulean wagon]

i do love how fucked up their attempt at reverse engineering warp drives went

[odd sparrow]

extreme collectivism pov

Mind u

the space nazis arent competent enough for successful eugenics programs so

[odd sparrow]

same

There is a lot of just,, tau torture porn in existence

but that's the one area where it's always hilarious

[cerulean wagon]

I love first contact stories

[odd sparrow]

in any sane universe they should be fine

unfortunately u crawled out into the wrong hellhole

[cerulean wagon]

its why i kinda prefer old necrons, because getting books about "wtf is this glowy green shit?" was fun

[vapid tiger]

The red scorpions will not stop trying anyway

[odd sparrow]

I prefer old crons when they're written as the enigmatic enemy

new crons exist so you can write from their pov

[cerulean wagon]

yup

which is fine but like

eh?

[vapid tiger]

infinite and the divine makes newcrons worth it

[cerulean wagon]

i feel about it the same way i feel about us now getting ork books

[odd sparrow]

the aesthetic of the dead silent undead machines without explanation or defined goals or whatever is neat

it makes the universe feel bigger? like, that this shit can just happen

ancient forgotten alien races do be a thing

[cerulean wagon]

yup

also like

did i ever share the darkheresy necron entries?

[odd sparrow]

i dont think so?

[vapid tiger]

skeledad having that halo community moment when halo 2 released when they said that the arbiter ruined the covenant

[atomic pelican]

Rlly love the few authors who remember not just that there are random xenos, but also the weird non-chaos things/xenos that live in the webway too

[cerulean wagon]

where the weapons are just under imperial designations

cause they dont know what necrons are

[vapid tiger]

Wasn't that uhhhh

[cerulean wagon]

gimme a sec i'll grab it ratty

[vapid tiger]

Those guys in the eisenhorn trilogy

[atomic pelican]

Andy Chambers in Path of the Deldar is the one I'm remembering

[vapid tiger]

Those chaos guys who are this ancient mutated alien species

[atomic pelican]

But perhaps there too!

Or sorry, not path of the deldar but

Masque of Vyle

Also by Chambers

[vapid tiger]

I need to read path of the deldar

[atomic pelican]

There's a entire ancient alien race in the webway who have been enslaved

Not in Commoragh either, another livable subrealm

[vapid tiger]

by me

[cerulean wagon]

@odd sparrow

[vapid tiger]

i needed a car wash

[atomic pelican]

LUL

[cerulean wagon]

nothing has the right name, they don't know what race it belongs too

[vapid tiger]

Enemies without right

[odd sparrow]

luv it

[cerulean wagon]

like, i get people want necron characters

but i loved like

reading about people exploring the setting and not knowing what things were

it adds an extra layer

unfortunatley the average reader goes "but why doesn't this random person know what a necron is?"

[vapid tiger]

40k fans when characters don't know everything about the setting

[cerulean wagon]

and ye its enemies without

[vapid tiger]

"Why doesn't this random guardsman know what the chaos gods are and everything about them?"

"Haven't they read the codices!??!?!?!?!??!?!"

[cerulean wagon]

yup

its some of my fav shit in the setting tho, and what made necrons interesting to me

[vapid tiger]

and then write really really shitty memes where guardsmen chat and make jokes about khorne berserkers and necrons and whatnot

like those shitty dnd memes where the characters all start talking about monster behaviors that they wouldn't know about unless they had a monster manual

[odd sparrow]

lowkey this is one thing that some writings get wrong imo

[vapid tiger]

Played on a 40k rp server once and the inquisitor interrogated some guy because his character kept talking about chaos gods

Was apparently pissed when told it was metagaming

[odd sparrow]

Like, I love all the texty lore blurbs in gladius but it treats the setting like everyone knows what everything is

cmon leave some ambiguity, random tau or guardsmen aren't omniscient

[vapid tiger]

Haven't played gladius

Give an example

[odd sparrow]

There's I think a Tau technology blurb (they're written in-character as a tau) that mentions <yeah the imps dont use em cus of the men of iron rebellion>

and all i can think is pls

dont gotta name everything

it makes the setting feel small

[vapid tiger]

But yeah it was like

Guardsman going "do we know what kind of chaos cult it is? I suspect nurgle due to the shit I've seen lying on the floor in the village"

Inquisitor present at the briefing grabs him

Takes him to the interrogation room and starts screaming

"WHAT THE FUCK IS NURGLE"

"TELL ME EVERYTHING YOU KNOW"

[vapid tiger]

Really weird

[vapid tiger]

Again

"Return the primarchs" type fans fuming rn

[odd sparrow]

But yeah, this stuff is made better by easing you into it. Say like, The Gue'la are revolted by our technology by some religious or mythological aversion, as typical of superstitious kinds

The far past should feel dark and obscure

horus heresy and 3 decades of bloat beyond that have put everything in the universe under a floodlight, it's an issue

[vapid tiger]

Like the only people who would know about the men of iron would be like

Senior mechanicus members, historitors

Inquisitors, high ranking imperium folks basically

[odd sparrow]

giga old AI, old high ranking admech types, and old high ranking imp vibes yeah

plus eldar ig

[vapid tiger]

Even a standard line marine might not have heard of them and has only heard that machines being sentient leads to bad shit

[odd sparrow]

Yeah, after 10k years it shouldn't be a rational argument

[vapid tiger]

But a captain? Eh sure

[odd sparrow]

It's a cultural taboo

[vapid tiger]

Like if calgar and azrael start chatting about the men of iron okay sure they're chapter masters they probably have heard about it

But if skrat the peasant is discussing the men of iron rebellion with jimmy the peasant then uh

no

[odd sparrow]

yee

[vapid tiger]

What I think is weirder is uh

People who think anyone beyond maybe a few dozen people in the Imperium know about the war in heaven

Like no one will know that shit aside from the eldar and necrons

And like

[odd sparrow]

Yeah, if you know about it it's cus you got it from an elf

[vapid tiger]

High ranking inquisitors and whatnot

Yeah

[cerulean wagon]

and even then, the war in heaven is forgotten by even the eldar

[atomic pelican]

Even most Eldar don't live that far back, so no real personal experience just old tales

Yeah

Their mythology covers it

[vapid tiger]

Yeah

[cerulean wagon]

because it was just that long ago

[odd sparrow]

yeah it's mythologised

[vapid tiger]

To the eldar it's myth

Hence why it's called the war in heaven

[atomic pelican]

Technically there COULD BE Archons alive who lived that far back but they'd be pain-raisins by now

I believe even Vect's age got retconned from being 10k

[vapid tiger]

Because the eldar throw their gods into the war in the mythology

[cerulean wagon]

basically to sum it up using an experience from being a GM

[atomic pelican]

Tbf this did actually happen

[vapid tiger]

Yeah

[atomic pelican]

Mfing

Khaine BTFOing the nightlord

[vapid tiger]

Blackstone fortresses probably being literal creations of Vaul

[cerulean wagon]

I had a character say a wrong piece of information, because they didn't know the actual truth, and instead of going "he's lying" or correcting him, one of the players went
"well actually GM, it would be this"

[cerulean wagon]

the shattering of khaine and the fact we dont know the truth of if the umbra are his remaining shards is super cool to me

[odd sparrow]

if the last few years of american history should tell u anything, extreme dogmatic religiosity invents its own reality

rando cult of the emperor grunts should have totally off tilt worldviews

[cerulean wagon]

yup

people are allowed to be wrong

[vapid tiger]

What

Did they try to metagame

[cerulean wagon]

yes

[vapid tiger]

How'd you respond

[odd sparrow]

umbra are a pain in my ass is what they are

fuck oFF tentacle spheroid

[cerulean wagon]

hydras splat them good

🙏

[vapid tiger]

Once had a corpse in a game have a hydra tattoo

And a player playing a random skitarii was like "LOOK HE WAS AN ALPHA LEGION SPY"

[cerulean wagon]

i don't remember but i think its the same player i ended up kicking out after they tried to challenge what he thought was a warboss to a 1v1, cause he knows in lore if thats done the nobz have to leave them alone

except it wasn't a warboss so he just got shot by the other orks and got mad

[odd sparrow]

why get mad

that's hilarious

i challenge you to a DUELLL!
<gets fucking capped>

[vapid tiger]

And I had to explain that he was metagaming before noting between sessions that his character had suddenly gone missing and dming him that his character had been kidnapped

By the alpha legion

for knowing who they were

[cerulean wagon]

because he couldn't believe i would dare to get lore so wrong as to shoot him after he declared a challenge, because no war boss would allow people to interrupt his challenge

[vapid tiger]

as a random grunt

[cerulean wagon]

it wasn't even a warboss, it was a runtherda

[vapid tiger]

A warboss is not obliged to accept a challenge from a humie

[odd sparrow]

yeah orks dont exactly have a code of honour in fluff afaik fjhds

[vapid tiger]

closest it comes to is respecting ork 1v1s

[atomic pelican]

imagining some random geek just getting ownzoned by a 12ft tall ork after demanding a challenge

Punched through the head

[odd sparrow]

pov the fungus is 400 ibs of pure muscle

[vapid tiger]

"TAKE HIM TO THE FUNGUS BREEDING PITS"

[cerulean wagon]

uhh technically if a warboss gets challenged, his nob guards won't step in unless he gives the go ahead, because to do otherwise would be to call your warboss weak

so he wasn't wrong in that knowledge, he just pointed at the wrong ork

the warboss didn't turn up for another like, 20 sessions cause this was only session 4

[odd sparrow]

nods that clocks

[vapid tiger]

That clocks

[cerulean wagon]

funnily enough i only know this because its in one of the cain books, because jurgen brings it up

whos a valhallan, so ofc he would know

[vapid tiger]

I mean I had a space wolf player once kill himself in a deathwatch campaign and get mad about it despite me warning him multiple times "you are going to get yourself killed if you do this"

He kept trying to use a meltabomb as a melee weapon.

[cerulean wagon]

that does like

4d10+10 dmg

ofc hes gonna die

[vapid tiger]

Had the techmarine wire it to explode on impact. Techmarine did it with the understanding that he was gonna toss it somewhere

No, fucker starts running towards the target with the meltabomb in hand ready to swing it

Other players warn him

I go "YEAH YOUR CHARACTER KNOWS THIS THING HAS THE POWER TO CUT THROUGH A BUNKER WALL LIKE BUTTER"

And then he swung at the target, an ork walker, anyway

well he took out the walker

He also killed himself

spent his last fate point to survive

When told he had no limbs and had to become a dreadnought he got pissed

[atomic pelican]

He was roleplaying a space wolf's intelligence appropriately

[cerulean wagon]

lmao

ye i've had some

funky players

[vapid tiger]

Another troublesome player in a black crusade campaign was a ranged specialist and then bitched after he charged a melee horde with his heavy bolter and had to spend a fate point

Then killed his own character off when he cheated his daemon weapon die rolls and we all called him out on it

Made a new character, he suddenly gave her a ship out of nowhere

When told "no you can't do that"

left the game

Best player was a rogue trader whose attempts at diplomacy were like

"Mmmmm yes" sips tea "Bomb the planet yes"

"until i get what i want"

Encountering a long lost imperial world split between mechanicus and ecclesiarchy elements with the mechanicus offering archeotech in exchange for favors to help them in their cold war?

Ehhhhh, start bombing the priests from orbit, start a war on the planet, mechanicus gets upset

Bomb the mechanicus

Grab the archeotech

Run

Funny player

Very rough summary

[wispy peak]

Mmmm yes bomb the planet

[plucky moth]

Your profile is weirdly fitting for that line

[alpine ingot]

you call it a war crime, I call it bartering by different means.

[plucky moth]

[wispy peak]

[vast frigate]

''making sure'' is another term

[alpine ingot]

that meltabomb story reminds me of the artwork that showed off a Elysian drop trooper going at a traitor marine with a primed meltabomb in hand

except your player doesn't understand how explosions work I guess

[vast frigate]

punching the primed melta grenade into someones face is enough

[alpine ingot]

the artwork just screamed "this trooper doesn't give a single fuck about his life, all he wants to do is make sure this traitor is dead"

[shadow plover]

Shame I missed the final Dach showdown 😔

What a tool

[cerulean wagon]

man got obliterated with an ion cannon

[plush mason]

LOL thats a good one

[cunning wigeon]

Went to sleep wondering how far he was willing to push it, woke up to them being banned. Shame I missed some of the fun

[odd sparrow]

f

[vapid tiger]

Most Imperial worlds are comfy guys!!! Also medieval life was cushy too!!!!! Monarchism was just an alternative form of government and things were otherwise just fine!

What a clown

[vast frigate]

[plush mason]

arent black blades holy weapons?

[vast frigate]

No, the rolling stones got their hands on them

[plush mason]

LOL

[broken bridge]

What do you mean it wasnt a comfy life when your whole family could be dead by the age of 30 because some asshole didnt wash his hands

or the harvest went to shit

[plush mason]

lol

give it a rest. he gone

[lyric ember]

What the hell happened here

[vast frigate]

the daschhund guy tried his luck

[lyric ember]

Dunno who that is

What did they do (if you're allowed to talk about it)

[barren tapir]

That is one way to say that they didn't knew even basic lore and tried to lecture us on the setting

[lyric ember]

Oh

[cunning wigeon]

Essentially say imperium is the best faction in the setting, most peoe live comfy lives, slavery wasn't bad, medieval people lived comfy lives etc

[barren tapir]

Oh, and that the imperium is underpowered

[lyric ember]

Only one part of that is slightly right

Everything else...

Yikes

[vast frigate]

i mean yeah, if you have to work to survive each day, you have little time to think about how shitty your lives are

but dont ask me

[cunning wigeon]

And that everyone who disagree with him was a chaos fanboy

[vast frigate]

let me introduce you to korean mine workers : )

[lyric ember]

Laughs in lobotomized human slaves

LOL

We had the same idea

[barren tapir]

Well, a part of those still are vat grown, but that just mean being immediately lobotomized the moment they get out of the tube

[lyric ember]

Mechanicus vat grows everything too

[vast frigate]

it depends on the forgeworld

never forgetti forgeworld spaghetti

[lyric ember]

Mhm

[vast frigate]

touch the valves and your mind becomes splatetti

[lyric ember]

Not enough holy oil we do surgery on you to make sure your nervous system is extra sensitive and durable and then burn you at the cross while keeping you alive as long as possible and then using whatever remains as a meal for the rest of your family

(Note, there is no explicit mention of this but it's 40k)

[cunning wigeon]

Yeah for some reason we get a few of those people's on this server

[broken bridge]

God shut up you chaos fanboys

icant handle it anymore

[cunning wigeon]

Hate to think how many people like that there are here that don't type, but so long as they don't type guess it doesn't effect anything

[lyric ember]

Mhm

Also, i just remembered some grimdark stuff from star wars

Lemme find it

[lyric ember]

Krytos virus

Engineered by the empire in Legends, was meant to specifically target aliens. Resulted in the deaths of millions across coruscant

Also, did not target your nervous system, meaning you felt everything

[cunning wigeon]

Wasn't there a zombie one in start wars too?

[lyric ember]

Blackwing, AKA Project 171A

Iirc

Thats the "zombie" one

Theres another i cant remember

[barren tapir]

Kotor

[broken bridge]

was that also responsible for those mutants in the sewers in kotor

[lyric ember]

Blackwing, no. The one you're thinking of is far more sith related

[vast frigate]

i have a collection of screenshots

[lyric ember]

Also other notable zombie "infections"

[cunning wigeon]

Uh oh am I being exposed

[vast frigate]

no no

behold

[lyric ember]

Geonosion Brain Worms, and the Nightsister magic BS

[vast frigate]

dakkatide, the steam forum limited edition

[broken bridge]

https://tenor.com/view/arnold-schwarzenegger-searching-binoculars-spying-stalking-gif-4679835

[vast frigate]

ye

i love it

[lyric ember]

Rakghouls

[vast frigate]

''ogryns shouldnt be playable, theyre dumber than a bag of bricks''

suits them just fine then?

[cunning wigeon]

You can't expect people that play a faction of solely males to understand women exist, especially since chances are slim they've properly interacted with one in real life

[proper helm]

the only valid thing I found in there is "is it really going to be possible to play a 10ft tall slab of meat of a person and not just get shot to shit and block everyone's LOS"

[proper helm]

slim to negative % somehow

[broken bridge]

where are the space marines

oh my lord

[lyric ember]

Damage resistance and larger health pool probably

Also there could possibly be different hitboxes

[proper helm]

probably

[vast frigate]

i sure hope so

[lyric ember]

One for damage, one for movement, one for teammates

[vast frigate]

imagine the hitbox for the ogryn

Just the hit box for a human but 5ft off the ground

[proper helm]

Can't you move through allies in vermintide?

[vast frigate]

idk can you

[lyric ember]

Yee

[cunning wigeon]

One time I was at my local game store with my girlfriend of a year or so and some space marine fanboy came up to us and solely talked to her about some random space marine lore claiming they were essentially the greatest soldiers in any sci fi setting for what felt like hours, was mad uncomfortable

[vast frigate]

hey

[lyric ember]

Yikes

[vast frigate]

i had a literal champion of slaanesh in my local

[barren tapir]

Yes

[vast frigate]

my man was interested in all forms of excess and proud of it

this hobby has some unique people

[cunning wigeon]

This isn't a cringe competition thankfully, I'd be fearful I'd lose

[cunning wigeon]

Don't really know what attracts them particularly

[lyric ember]

Y'all ever go to a store and find someone genuinely cool but you have to restrain yourseld from nerding out with them

[cunning wigeon]

What part of 40k brings in the mega chuds

[broken bridge]

My god i love this compilation so much

so many people just whining to whine

[vast frigate]

nah its more that ''yeah, i know the feel''

[cunning wigeon]

It was when I was trying to convince her Warhammer isn't that bad too

[vast frigate]

oof

[cunning wigeon]

Nah it's fine, she likes nighthaunts now

[vast frigate]

pog

[lyric ember]

Nighthaunts?

Are those the mechanicus conversions?

[cunning wigeon]

From AoS

I don't play 40k

Yet that is

[lyric ember]

I see

[lyric ember]

OHHH

From the pirate faction?

[cunning wigeon]

No night haunts are the ghosts

[lyric ember]

What're the big blue ghoul dudes

[barren tapir]

Undead

[cunning wigeon]

Mournghul?

[barren tapir]

They are the undead that are not vamps

[lyric ember]

I see

[cunning wigeon]

They do have them to be fair

Nighthaunts

[lyric ember]

I see

[cunning wigeon]

And I play Ossiarch Bonereapers

So I suppose you could say we are one in Nagash

[lyric ember]

I dont know jack about sigmar

Thats more of a meme side for me

[cunning wigeon]

Really?

[lyric ember]

Yeah

[cunning wigeon]

As in you think AoS is more memey than 40k?

[lyric ember]

No

[cunning wigeon]

Ah good

[lyric ember]

I just enjoy it through memes that i have no context for

Like the YT channel Okoii

And the vermintalks stuff

Not really ready for the lore atm

[cunning wigeon]

Oh that is mainly Warhammer fantasy, the world that was for AoS

Basically the prequel to AoS

[lyric ember]

Mhm

[cunning wigeon]

What factions do you like in 40k? Admech and knights right?

[lyric ember]

All i know about AoS is that Sigmar is cooler than big emps, Karl Franz is supposodly the coolest human, stormcast eternals are ultra marines, and saltzpyre isnt as holy as we think

[lyric ember]

Admech, and then knights but only really house Zavora

I do like those trader xenos in one of the unknown regions though

They look like dogs or something

Dont remember their name

[cunning wigeon]

Ah okay, well the AoS equivalents of the admech in terms of near autonomous soldiery and unthinking discipline is the Bonereapers, in terms of technology it would be the kharadron overlords

[shadow plover]

Holy shit is that a painful picture

[broken bridge]

its pretty glorious

i didnt know so many people were mad about ogryn

[shadow plover]

Steam forums were a mistake

[broken bridge]

most forums are

[shadow plover]

this was probably the most painful one

how dense can one be

[cunning wigeon]

Apparently denser than the ogryn

[broken bridge]

people really projecting this hard because females

[lyric ember]

Omnissiah save us

[odd sparrow]

Probably a troll but [female character isn't a gorgeous supermodel with long flowing hair = trans] is a trend here

[broken bridge]

also wait what black guy?

[shadow plover]

yeah dunno, don't recall one being black

[broken bridge]

was he in the bar in the release date trailer?

[barren tapir]

This clearly show us that we also need a black ogryn

[lyric ember]

We need ogryn in lingerie actually

[lyric ember]

I feel like the unplayable at the end makes it a troll

Maybe not though

[shadow plover]

You just can't know with these types

[lyric ember]

People are this dumb so i have no clue

Mhm

Honestly, these gender supporting meat bags are pretty fucking stupid

Replace your crotch with a neutron laser and your ass cheeks with shield generators

[vast frigate]

spikes

[lyric ember]

I see

That makes more sense

[vast frigate]

studs

[lyric ember]

Though dante was looking like a mutated unicorn under his mask

[vast frigate]

studdiest

[lyric ember]

Who dat

I like cogs

And a 3-in-one is cool

[vast frigate]

iron hands

[lyric ember]

Huh.

Also thats a bigass bolter

[shadow plover]

these are service studs

not the ones on the armour

[vast frigate]

Those are implants

some chapters call them marks of surgery

but they are also implanted as specific years to the chapter

theyre not just metal patches

[lyric ember]

grabs metal popcorn

[vast frigate]

they serve a purpose

[shadow plover]

https://warhammer40k.fandom.com/wiki/Honour_Badges_(Space_Marines)#:~:text=weapons and belts.-,Service Studs,-Service Stud examples

[vast frigate]

Fandom

[shadow plover]

that's literally everywhere

[vast frigate]

anyway

[lyric ember]

Is that where Sicarians come from

[vast frigate]

they still serve a purpose

[shadow plover]

anywhere you look for service studs that's what they show

[vast frigate]

theyre not just badges

marhreens

[lyric ember]

Is this guy an actual person

Or just a random name

[shadow plover]

but at least don't call the molecular bonding studs service studs

[shadow plover]

he is

[vast frigate]

These?

[lyric ember]

Is he where sicarians come from?

[shadow plover]

those

[vast frigate]

Sicarian whats?

rust stalkers are admech stuff

[lyric ember]

Sicarian ruststalkers/infiltrators

[vast frigate]

nope

definitely not marines

[lyric ember]

M'kay

[vast frigate]

sicarians are the last line equivelant of dreadnoughts

skitarii dies honorably in battle

except the death was highly exaggerated

[lyric ember]

I thought they were strike troops

[vapid tiger]

In rt it was "10 years of service = one stud" but they changed it to be based on chapter and for the ten years thing to be something certain legions did during the gc due to the attrition rates at the time

I imagine the high attrition rates of a chapter like the marines malevolent might still have the ten years equals one stud thing

[cerulean wagon]

ye, head studs are service, shoulder studs are bonding

[vast frigate]

sicarian infiltrators and rust stalkers are admech assassins and data jacks

[cerulean wagon]

its why titus in the SM2 trailer havin the studs he has is a big deal

[vast frigate]

i have been told from day 1 that the armor studs are also service

[lyric ember]

Why'd you say last line then? Did you mean same value relative to troops?

[vast frigate]

what

[vapid tiger]

I'm gonna find that really good rt art piece

[vast frigate]

what last line

be specific

we said a lot of things in the last minute

[vapid tiger]

Of a marine with the head studs

[lyric ember]

.

[vapid tiger]

Lemme look in my scanned copy

[vast frigate]

The last line equivelant

theyre the closest

because admech dont use dreadnoughts

they use big beepboop upgrades

[lyric ember]

M'kay

Just making sure, im not the smartest

[vast frigate]

well i mean except for that one techpriest that embedded himself into a dreadnought and then modified the fuck out of it

[lyric ember]

IM SORRY WHAT

When did that happen

[vast frigate]

: )

lore scraps hit hard man

[lyric ember]

Bruh

[cerulean wagon]

na armour are bonding studs, idk whos been saying otherwise

[lyric ember]

That would have been fucking lit

[vast frigate]

its one of those things gw mentions once and then never comes back on it again

[cerulean wagon]

its why the studs on armour only appears on specific MKs

[vast frigate]

store managers

imma slap em next time i see em

i know very little of marine lore so like i assumed the marine players would know

[cerulean wagon]

im not a big marine boi so idk the full specifics but i think its usualy MK V that has the studs?

[shadow plover]

yes

[vapid tiger]

Any mark can have studs but it's usually v and vi

VI has the studded left pauldron

[shadow plover]

some incorporate them to any armour marks

mostly because of lack of better resources etc

[vapid tiger]

Yeah it's a cheap up-armament method

The reason why it's standard on the vi is due to cost cutting purposes

[shadow plover]

some uses like this are also seen throughout the legions

[vapid tiger]

Yeah I imagine the added weight can help with other shit too

I mean they'd probably make p good shock absorption with a shoulder mounted heavy weapon so that a shoulder mounted plasma cannon doesn't kick the shit out of the marine's shoulder over prolonged use

There he is

Glorious bastard

Also neat diorama

[plush mason]

do grey knights have tech marines?

[lyric ember]

Mhm

1st brotherhood

Whatever that means

[plush mason]

as far as i can tell all the different grey knight units are part of a special order called a brotherhood

[cerulean wagon]

quick question to make sure im not crazy

watchin the 9e trailer again

https://i.imgur.com/wuWsu7f.png

is that a laspack embedded into the helmet?

[brittle nebula]

That could just be a short range radio in the helmet

[final spruce]

What the other side of the helmet looking like ?

[brittle nebula]

There is something sticking out on the other side.

Just watched the trailer. I’m now sure it’s a short range radio of some kind on their helmets

https://preview.redd.it/pds7f34l5j151.gif?format=png8&s=845f4d21666cc3cdfa37d666cbafafbfa4e1a8f2

[barren tapir]

Pretty sure that it isn't a laspack

[brittle nebula]

I just said that

[cerulean wagon]

same thing

[vast frigate]

thats just a power pack

for comms

power packs are the same as laspacks tho

[signal hill]

ah yeah, the greatful multi-use energy pack which can just be charged by forgetting it in the sun or throwing it into a fucking campfire

[lyric ember]

Also a grenade

[lyric ember]

What weapons are good against nids?

I understand that they evolve quickly but i assume plasma doesnt really give a shit

[storm jungle]

Since the Tyranids have a range of organisms, practically every weapon in the Imperial armoury can find its niche in engaging the targets they are made to

The real problem, instead is: Do you have enough ammunition

[proper helm]

the answer is no

[storm jungle]

Exactly

[lyric ember]

Do you ever have enough ammo ever with anything

[storm jungle]

Yes

[lyric ember]

Also can mechanicus use the small bolters like commissars and SoB

[storm jungle]

Yes

they are just mainly shown using Arc weapons since its their tabletop schtick

[lyric ember]

Mhm

Are those anti-nid acid rounds that the deathwatch use available for the small bolters

[storm jungle]

Everything Deathwatch uses down to the most simple equipment is specifically made for them since they are a small task force

other Imperials dont have access to such things

[lyric ember]

M'kay so like grey knights

Damnit

[storm jungle]

Writing something?

[lyric ember]

Yep

Gryphonne IV survivor factions

One of them is hellbent on revenge and hunts nids

[cerulean wagon]

Technically it would not be outside of anyones capacity to have those acid rounds, but they would need to be special made after research

[lyric ember]

Nah i try to follow the rules

I dont like the "technically" stuff

[cerulean wagon]

I mean technically in that "you can manufacture it, it just won't be the exact same"

because it would be their own offshoot product from their own research, designed for a smaller projectile

[lyric ember]

I think imma just make em use Arquebes or however you spell it

[plush mason]

is body heat enough to charge them?

[final spruce]

Yes albeit slowly

[serene jungle]

The better question is, do you have enough chaff to throw into the breach?

Yes

The ammo only lasts for as long as the person firing it after all

[cunning wigeon]

more biomass means more nids though

[plush mason]

do imperial ships have transponders?

[vast frigate]

I mean.
Why wouldnt they?

[plush mason]

cause the imperium isnt known for its sensible and practical tech lol

[vast frigate]

im not gonna comment on that

[brittle nebula]

https://tenor.com/view/falcon-out-line-but-right-gif-22029772

[plush mason]

i mean they have some very sensible and practical tech. but thats a minority

[brittle nebula]

True

This subject is highly debatable though.

It can go either way

[plush mason]

very little in 40k is sensible or practical and thats kinda the whole point of the setting lol

[cerulean wagon]

a lot of the standard tech is practical

its just not mentioned becuase it doesn't fit in bolter porn media

[plush mason]

the is nothing practical about anything the SMs have bar their tanks lol

[cerulean wagon]

gets brought up in some IG stuff tho, anything that you sit and go "well it'd make sense for people to have X" probably exists, it just might not always be available

in the case of transponders and IFF, yes they do exist

[plush mason]

ok so one to the next question. does the imperium have any tech to cloak its ships from scanners?

[barren tapir]

Yes

[brittle nebula]

Bolter what?

[cerulean wagon]

Bolter porn, any books handling Space Marines, which are just dumb action flicks with not much depth to em

which makes up around ~80% of 40k media

[storm jungle]

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2022/05/10/the-lore-of-the-leagues-who-are-the-kin-and-where-do-they-come-from/

https://www.warhammer-community.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/05/URroZg8GwH180iYr.jpg

The eventual fate of the First Ancestors is uncertain, for Kin myth solidifies into intelligible history only after the long-march fleets began to arrive at their destinations near the galactic core. The records of this period boast the last references to the First Ancestors – and the earliest mentions of the Ancestor Cores.

Likewise, it is a First Truth that the Kin have been a cloned people from the very start.

The First Ancestors are held responsible for the cloneskeins – the systems of stable mutations that underpin the entire genetic structure of the Kin to this day. The gene pool drawn upon by the Leagues of Votann is stable, deep, and varied – this is no race of identical clones. In practical terms, the cloneskeins have produced a species with denser bones and muscles than baseline humans, higher red and white blood cell counts, and formidable strength and resilience.

Such was the craft of the First Ancestors that even Kin souls are engineered – they shine more dimly against the tides of the warp than their distant human cousins, with no evidence of uncontrolled psychic mutation. Indeed, only those with the appropriate psychically active cloneskein can activate the so-called barrier-tech the Kin employ to access the empyrean.

https://www.warhammer-community.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/05/kzSbJ9vjruQGevUD.jpg

Cloneskeins differentiate the division of labour in Kin society, and impart useful abilities on those who possess them. Some Kin might have enhanced reaction times, the ability to see the infrared spectrum, or limited resistance to cosmic radiation and extremes of temperature or gravity. Many cloneskeins manifest in visible fashion, with giveaways including distinctive bodily odours, unusual eye colours, or thick subdermal layers. Such physical variations would be a cause for concern in Imperial society – but to the Kin, they are a badge of honour.

[cerulean wagon]

oh boy, clones and immune to the warp?

daring today aren't we GW

[final spruce]

So they are indeed like tau in more than design

[shadow plover]

that doesn't mean immune does it

[final spruce]

More resistant

[cerulean wagon]

its written the same way tau are described

so

[final spruce]

Lets just hope Guy Haley doesnt write them then

[storm jungle]

LMAO

[cursive hull]

Wait

So the Leagues are made up of clones?

[cerulean wagon]

yes

[cursive hull]

https://tenor.com/view/snore-stop-snoring-sleep-time-sleeping-tired-gif-17845437

[cerulean wagon]

literally an entire faction of medic bait

[storm jungle]

the castes being, in this order, driller, engineer, gunner, scout

[cerulean wagon]

[cursive hull]

I am automatically disinterested in the Leagues now.

I just don't care.

[cerulean wagon]

i would be fine with the clones on its own seeing as its imperfect clonning

but the fact they are also warp immune, and worship ai and the other bits

its honestly just sounding like a weird run of the paranoia TTRPG

[cursive hull]

Pretty much.

[cerulean wagon]

if any of the cores are called anything close to friend computer i give up

[odd sparrow]

That's pretty boring fluff

Feels weird for dwarves in particular, given the big focus on family and ancestors

[cerulean wagon]

it seems they have focused more around the memey bits of WHF dwarf fluff that people like

[odd sparrow]

They better not include grudges

[cerulean wagon]

even if they don't, you know the community will

grudges and hatred of eldar

[odd sparrow]

Probably

[cerulean wagon]

not even probably, its already started and they aren't out yet

[storm jungle]

Blockchain of grudges

[odd sparrow]

Awful

[storm jungle]

[cerulean wagon]

dwarves operating on an NFT economy

they fucking would aswell

[storm jungle]

LEGIT

also to not miss the artwork

[cerulean wagon]

u already posted em

[storm jungle]

I know but

bulbous head

[cerulean wagon]

hideous dwarves is pretty great

[storm jungle]

tiny creatures

[tender igloo]

I will reserve judgement until I see everything they have to offer with the leagues

I want to see how all the different parts work to bring the faction together before I call it good or shit.

[cerulean wagon]

so far i'm not seeing any particulary good parts

[tender igloo]

That's also based on your opinion. I see some stuff I like and a couple things I don't

[atomic pelican]

Shouldve just made em tau aligned and updated them into the demiurg

Theyd fit Tau vibes way better

[cerulean wagon]

demiurg aesthetic is also cooler

[atomic pelican]

Yeee

[drifting fog]

mmm fresh bacon

bacon for bacon gods

[final spruce]

@storm jungle I GOT AN EPITHANY

About LoV being the Gary Stu of 40k

[cerulean wagon]

[gusty fulcrum]

So i was just remembering something kinda interesting ive read but cant rember where: even though “high gothic” imperial language is written and said as psuedo latin ive heard its actually a blend of all of Terra’s “old languages” aka all the languages we have today all blended together while “low gothic” is usually just the actual langauge of your native human culture

What do you guys think it actually sounds like?

[final spruce]

Latin English but worse since English is already 3 languages in a trenchcoat passing as one language

[cerulean wagon]

it differs planet to planet

[gusty fulcrum]

High gothic is suppose to be universal

[storm jungle]

I just headcannon Low Gothic as English with some words thrown in, the lore never really bothers to flesh it out and its kind of the easiest way for me to grasp it

especially when even models use english letters

[atomic pelican]

Complete lack of cuss words

[cerulean wagon]

it can be universal, but you still get regional dialects and slang

because galaxy

[gusty fulcrum]

No like high gothic is like the fancy unchanging language like lecticio divinatatus or astronomican

[cerulean wagon]

yes but

dialects

just because the language doesn't change, doesnt mean people don't do it differently

if you think of the difference in dialects between cities, then expand that to a galactic scale

wew

[gusty fulcrum]

From my understanding its suppose to be free of slang words though

That falls back under low gothic

[storm jungle]

No language is ever really free of slang words

[cerulean wagon]

^

[storm jungle]

Humans do be like that

its why in comparison literally every other faction has a single universal language

[atomic pelican]

Tbf most of the other factions with a coherent language are way more unified/compact

So likely alot less variation

[gusty fulcrum]

High Gothic (represented in-universe by pseudo-Latin) is unintelligible to most Imperial citizens. It is only the language of important adepts and members of the Inquisition, and even among those who can speak it, it is only a second language.

Its like how most peasents couldnt read or speak latin but preists could

I guess its also what most code is written in

[storm jungle]

Its just bad writing

[cerulean wagon]

code is written in code cyphers

they use their own shit

[storm jungle]

that and 40k writers dont understand how humans work

or language for that matter

💀

[gusty fulcrum]

No like computer technical coding

[cerulean wagon]

i think they just code direct in binary

[gusty fulcrum]

Like program codes are written in high gothic

[cerulean wagon]

since you know, tech priests can speak it

[gusty fulcrum]

Tech manuels are

[cerulean wagon]

and direct interface

[gusty fulcrum]

High gothic is also known by Tech

[real stone]

The interface may be, but I don't think we have any real confirmation of what language they're coding in

[gusty fulcrum]

High Gothic is also known as "Tech" because it is a version of the language in which the technical rituals of the Adeptus Mechanicus and other ancient works are recorded.

I think they just mean any tech manuels they find are written in high gothic

[real stone]

My guess would be Binaric, based on how the mechanicus prays in binaric, speaks in binaric, etc etc

[gusty fulcrum]

Which would make sense sine most tech manuels and books would proabably be from the dark age

It might be bad writing but its still interesting to look through and study a little

And talk about

[vast frigate]

tell them to talk to tolkie- oh right

[vast frigate]

Lingua-technis is a separate language

it comes out as bursts of noise

incomprehensible if you dont have a lobe augment

[gusty fulcrum]

Techno lingua isnt Tech

tehcs just a nickname

Like i said based on the way its written i think it comes from probably tech manuals from the dark age

[barren tapir]

High Gothic (or "Tech")

[vast frigate]

oh in that manner

sorry

[barren tapir]

High Gothic is also known as "Tech" as it is a version of the language in which technical rituals and ancient works are recorded. This developed during the Dark Age of Technology. It derives from the common tongue of the time, in the Merican/Pan-Pacific region. This was the universal medium of written record until the Age of Strife, and was spoken as a first language by many and as a second language by almost everyone. Its idioms and vocabulary now appear archaic and mystic, and many of its words have acquired religious significance over the years. It is the language of the Tech-priests and of forbidden books.

[vast frigate]

i was thinking youre comparing the Lingua-technis to gothic

lmao

[barren tapir]

I just discovered how to make these

[gusty fulcrum]

Ya so i think that means its cuz old tech manuals and books on technology woulda been written in high gothic

Which would make sense

[barren tapir]

Correct

[vast frigate]

i mean

[barren tapir]

Once upon a time, in a galaxy very close, high gothic was the common language of the human federation

[vast frigate]

you can code in dutch, german, french etc

coding in the most common language is just better

so yeah, probably high gothic

[gusty fulcrum]

Ya but the language of the time is ALL these

think liek the episode of southpark with the future people

where their langauge is suppose to be all languages combined

[barren tapir]

Actually it state them as merican/pan-pacific languages

[gusty fulcrum]

My bad then

So what would that consist of?

[barren tapir]

Which is hilarious, since now many stuff is in british english afaik

[gusty fulcrum]

Well we gotta remmeebr it was written in the 80s and might still be based from the old lore

[barren tapir]

American english, and probably asian languages that face the pacific ocean

[gusty fulcrum]

we dont know how often theyve updated the lore on gothic language

[plucky moth]

polynesian languages

[barren tapir]

Yup

Also aussie english

[gusty fulcrum]

Woulda been more interesting if they actaully tried to make words based off that arguebly

[plucky moth]

you'd end up with NZ slang real fast

[gusty fulcrum]

lol

the highest and most complicated langauge of the human toungue

[plucky moth]

which I'm fine with, pretty much what I grew up with to begin with lmao

Chur

[gusty fulcrum]

Just imagine the emperor speaking now

[bright anvil]

God the fact the interex were so close to warning the imperium about choas

[dusk widget]

Fuckin Erebus

[storm jungle]

Lazy Writing Moment

[bright anvil]

Fuckin Erebus

[storm jungle]

Erebus is Based

[tender igloo]

https://tenor.com/view/war-hammer-fantasy-gif-19395056

[plucky moth]

The erebussy

[vapid tiger]

So what's the lore behind warhammer fans being racist

[odd sparrow]

daddy issues

[alpine ingot]

An inability to separate real life from fiction

[plucky moth]

Rejection issues

[storm jungle]

LOL

[atomic pelican]

Wargame + Aimed at middle school boys originally(now manchildren) + Fascist main character syndrome + Lack of women in hobby for aforementioned reasons

+L

[storm jungle]

M-M-Muh Theocratic oligarchy tho

[cerulean wagon]

[atomic pelican]

Honestly I'd remove wargame even because AoS players are normal

The only Problem ones are 40k and like ww2 historicals

[storm jungle]

I will save the champagne for when 40k finally gets nuked in a decade or two and all that 30 year old lore bloat is cut out

[cerulean wagon]

[tender igloo]

David Haire artwork of Magnus. is very good

[vast frigate]

Mangnus

[tender igloo]

can i be honest? while it is a problem that needs to be dealt with for sure, i think you're making it out to be a bigger problem than it actually is.

[atomic pelican]

Hey man, bury ur head in the sand all u want, we ban someone for this every like 2 days

Also krieg pfp opinion invalid etc

[tender igloo]

i literally said it is a problem that needs to be dealt with, also get a better joke

[atomic pelican]

Its not a joke if its true

[storm jungle]

I'd be in the same mindset as Thane if it wasnt for the fact that as Onut says we ban actual imperial stanning fascists here like every month

before i joined this server i genuinely had no idea there were people like this

[atomic pelican]

Yeah that and its rlly easy to encounter them irl too LMAO

Someone once told me Swolves had a tendency to be sussy alongside the usual suspects of Krieg/Bt/Deathwatch

Wasnt sure until the first swolves player I met irl was a tattoo'd neonazi

Lul

[storm jungle]

yikes

[cunning wigeon]

It is always worrying that the people that get banned are usually completely serious (unless they are trolling that well)

Because at the end of the day I'm baffled that it's a real person that believes what they are saying, it comes across as completely detached from reality

[storm jungle]

We kinda only had 2 trolls atm if the last guy is to be counted as one, the others are usually fully sold on the idea of the Imperium lol

[cerulean wagon]

ofc they are detatched from reality, they think a weird grimdark fantasy ideology makes sense

[cunning wigeon]

Well it's less the investment in a game and more the fact they just completely ignore or rewrite history

And whilst I'm sure they aren't super common and one could go forever without seeing them, we seem to get a few every month or so in this server and I've both seen myself in person and read the stories myself of the weirdos that hang around tournaments and local game stores

While most could be written off as just trying to edgy the fact most people can say they know one of these people is just weird

[atomic pelican]

Yeah the good part is while weirdasses def are around irl theyre mostly in the cringe internet zone

While there are exceptions of course, actually playing the game requires some social modem

So freaks tend not to show up too too often

[barren tapir]

Or that is desirable

But, alas, everyone like to think as themself as the hero of the story

[storm jungle]

"Xenos should be just NPCs"

[tender igloo]

again i agree there is a problem that needs to be dealt with. but i cannot agree that the problem is that dire simply from dealing with weirdos on the internet and the occasional shithead in real life that i have also had to deal with.

[cunning wigeon]

Oh yeah that's what I was saying, they exist within the community but tend to keep to themselves

It's just kinda sad they must echo chamber their weird beliefs to eachother until they believe it

[final spruce]

Also that I happen to meet those people

We already got enough everyday, I don't need my hobby, my way to healthily vent and have fun, be ruined by weirdos and human dregs

Actually weirdos are fine, the others are not

[signal hill]

Just saw a picture of abaddon

for all his achievements...he's never going to be a fashion icon, that's for sure

[storm jungle]

👁️

[cerulean wagon]

ohno

[cerulean wagon]

dont do this to me

im not strong enough

[tender igloo]

time to put on the big boy pants

[brittle nebula]

Lol I’m watching this right now! 🤣

[vast frigate]

welp

Here we go

my mic arrives tomorrow so only then can i scream into the void

[brittle nebula]

https://tenor.com/view/controlmypc-cat-screaming-discord-gif-20582295

[alpine ingot]

now with external possum screeching

[lyric ember]

The story of Zhao-Arkhad is rather interesting, if not important to the overall 40k setting

There's some serious tech-heresy shit going on with it too

[bright anvil]

What about Fabius bile fans tho

[atomic pelican]

Basado

CSM fans always friends