Arch is iffy
#40k-lore-chat
storm jungle
like
go and watch his content if you want
but you'll kinda realise why people dislike lmao
empty current
Arch can be fine as long as you stick to his lore videos.
shadow plover
nah better if you don't
storm jungle
LMAO
shadow plover
he's a grade A multijackass
plush mason
all i know is arch has a MASSIVE hardon for the korps
empty current
sorta
crisp heath
Adeptus Ridiculous ? 
odd tulip
The real moderator is defeated by the automod
shadow plover
Arch is a proper neo nazi
empty current
he did a siege of vraks series that was pretty good.
rose thorn
Adeptus Ridiculous ? <:lul:825836255853674540>
Oh they are funny but ive grown to not take msot thinsg they say
storm jungle
Yep
they are entertaining but like
spawn so many memes
that are incorrect
lmao
crisp heath
Funni boy
rose thorn
considering they did a realms of slaanesh and didnt see the silve rknight of slaanesh
storm jungle
I kinda got tired of them after it became nothing but bricky going
GUYS
BUY OUR MERCH
REMEMBER OUR MERCH
yeah bricky i know
broken bridge
googles arch warhammer
finds "why do people hate arch" and "complete guide to warhammer community videos"
plush mason
Doge Vandire is great tho
vast frigate
i mean
crisp heath
No
vast frigate
:)
crisp heath
Janovich !
odd tulip
rose thorn
isnt fanboying them defeat the entire mssage of them?
empty current
the dude as 5 long ass videos about vraks alone lol
the dude has probably over a hundred of 2-5 hour long lore videos, if you want encyclopedic lore it's not a bad source if you wanna go secondary. Better is Luten or just read the fucking books.
plush mason
isnt fanboying them defeat the entire mssage of them?
fanboying any part of 40k defeats its "message"
final spruce
False, Guard get obliterated even in their iwn codex
rose thorn
pointless and zealous patriotisms
vast frigate
Luetin is probably the most actively and useful self-repairing youtuber who does lore
cerulean wagon
isnt fanboying them defeat the entire mssage of them?
yes it is, but remember that people are stupid
vast frigate
together with baldemort
crisp heath
I like Baldemort
rose thorn
yes it is, but remember that people are stupid
idk i probably sound like a huge asshole for saying taht tbh, i think its weird but they aer pretty metal
rose thorn
jdgsahfb thank you
crisp heath
I'm pompous ?
vast frigate
you buy eldar for championships
eternal rune
Arch is the loremaster
Knows more lore than anyone else
shadow plover
man just stop
vast frigate
oh no
shadow plover
you're done
rose thorn
Eldar Fanbase is like the race
ia ctually really like uhh, corsairs, i kinda wanan get a corairs army
final spruce
Wait
rose thorn
or exodites
vast frigate
if you really want to go there
arch made So many mistakes
blatant lies even
just to prop up his storytelling
final spruce
Isnt his profile based on the meme with the dog saying "I dislike gay people" ?
vapid tiger
Arch is the loremaster
Knows more lore than anyone else
Except me apparently since most of his lore is wrong
tender igloo
I think that krieg are cool and their lore is interesting. But people take it to such extremes that I feel uncomfortable saying i like them.
crisp heath
ia ctually really like uhh, corsairs, i kinda wanan get a corairs army
I create my own faction of Aeldari, so i'm pretty fine
storm jungle
I think that krieg are cool and their lore is interesting. But people take it to...
This is true
plush mason
idk i probably sound like a huge asshole for saying taht tbh, i think its weird ...
thats like the only reason most people like them. they look badass and fit the "grim dark" aspect of 40k 1000x better than the starship trooper rejects that are the cadians
rose thorn
i wanna make my own corsairs look liek uhhh
vast frigate
see the issue with krieg is the same issue as with ultramarines i think at this point
rose thorn
silk traders and crap
vast frigate
theyre cool factions
storm jungle
you can tbh
vast frigate
BUT
storm jungle
eldar corsairs are cool
crisp heath
Yup
vast frigate
theyre overdone in memes and bullied too much for people to say that they actually like them
cerulean wagon
I think that krieg are cool and their lore is interesting. But people take it to...
you can like em, just understand if you make a shovel joke i will find you
crisp heath
And open for creating lore
final spruce
I think that krieg are cool and their lore is interesting. But people take it to...
Nah Thane Ive been there a while and I can say you are the least cringe krieg lover here with an actual krieg pfp, along with the guy that does the comics
storm jungle
^
vast frigate
i love it
crisp heath
i wanna make my own corsairs look liek uhhh
I create some Corsairs who work with alot of other "pirates" like humans, Ork, Tau for just "Surviving" in a dying Univers
plucky moth
mashallah 🙏
broken bridge
theres a sigmarxism subreddit
rose thorn
I create some Corsairs who work with alot of other "pirates" like humans, Ork, T...
THATS COOL!
broken bridge
bruh this is the real warhammer lore right here
rose thorn
i lvoe teh dying universe shit of 40k
crisp heath
So i can play SM, Tau, Imperial Guard and Eldars in same shit
storm jungle
theres a sigmarxism subreddit
We got accused of being sigmarxists an hour ago so who knows
plucky moth
love escaping the dying universe irl to the fantasy of a dying universe in the future
shadow plover
Ultramarines have a lot of gay roman sex
I've got 6000 points worth of ultramarines I can confirm this
broken bridge
We got accused of being sigmarxists an hour ago so who knows
there is i just found out watching the vid on arch also this chat has been flying by so i missed that entirely
plush mason
ok so back to the lore. how many grandmasters do the grey knights have?
shadow plover
these are my hands
storm jungle
ok so back to the lore. how many grandmasters do the grey knights have?
Just 1 i think
atomic pelican
Guy is Super roman
storm jungle
lemme get my Chart™️
plucky moth
Guy is Super roman
a manlet? 
shadow plover
shadow plover
shortest astartes known to man
plucky moth
based
shadow plover
holy shit that's a great ai generated image what the fuck
final spruce
Thus why I like Cato
Murder
plush mason
Just 1 i think
cuz in the daemonhunters game Kai is said to be a grandmaster not the grandmaster
shadow plover
2 if you count grandmaster and grandmaster supreme
plush mason
ok that makes sence
plucky moth
xXgrandmastersupremeXx
shadow plover
think each brotherhood has their own grandmaster?
rose thorn
I create some Corsairs who work with alot of other "pirates" like humans, Ork, T...
my corsiars, the silver talons, mainly try to do trading and mercenary work. Im thinking maybe they are still a CWE but they got hit by so much bullshit they died off and splintered away and who ever is left is trying to repair they fucked up CW
storm jungle
think each brotherhood has their own grandmaster?
Yep
plush mason
think each brotherhood has their own grandmaster?
can purifiers not take command or something?
storm jungle
a grandmaster for each
then its down the command chain on who takes lead in the field
shadow plover
aren't purifiers a line unit or something
plush mason
i guess
vast frigate
Thanks
shadow plover
but I guess field promotions can happen to anyone
as it does in the game
Actually I don't know who or what the PC is in Daemonhunters
astartes pretty sure
and a grey knight
plush mason
i asked cuz ectar in game says his vows prevent him from taking command of the ship
plush mason
and a grey knight
||yes appointed acting commander after the commander dies slaying a demon||
meager wing
https://i.redd.it/kqdmzgsitlf71.png What's the unit on the right called
shadow plover
yeah I've got a few mission in, but I don't know what his role was before hand
vast frigate
wolfdawgart is great
plush mason
yeah I've got a few mission in, but I don't know what his role was before hand
mine may as well have been a serf lol. im getting my ass beat "c
vast frigate
https://i.redd.it/kqdmzgsitlf71.png What's the unit on the right called
thallax
meager wing
ty
shadow plover
https://i.redd.it/kqdmzgsitlf71.png What's the unit on the right called
doesn't look like a regular mechanicus unit and I can tell this is Wolfdawg fanart so it could be just about anything
shadow plover
I concur
vast frigate
They are the ultimate mechanicus creations when melding flesh and steel
plush mason
vast frigate
their bodies are physically joint with the machine
high power implants, heart attachments, diesel for blood
plush mason
sounds fun
vast frigate
they are very often the most violent and willing of the mechanicus
other times, they are prisoners
who have their flesh stripped layer by layer for every implant
plucky moth
diesel for blood is some peak highschooler writing
vast frigate
naturally
vast frigate
diesel for blood is some peak highschooler writing
its GW
crisp heath
You want Grimdark with your suppleant Grimdark ?
plush mason
very eldar looking tbh
vast frigate
thats just because its a smooth mask
what, do eldar now have a copyright on smooth surfaces?
crisp heath
Always
plush mason
what, do eldar now have a copyright on smooth surfaces?
nah
vast frigate
gonna go over to commoragh and file a lawsuit
motherfuckers like excess, how about this paperwork
crisp heath
XD
plush mason
lol
broken bridge
major kill seems pretty cool
plush mason
his videos are more meme than lore
vast frigate
that too
shadow plover
he's a silly edgy boy with some stupid memes but mostly he is alright
vast frigate
arc-
plush mason
**he could always be Gamza**
who?
plush mason
no im really asking. i have never heard of this person
vast frigate
Well
plush mason
rip Dilara being a bad influence
atomic pelican
never trust the man with the commissar cosplay
plush mason
never trust the man with the commissar cosplay
what kind of commissar? meme or true to lore?
plush mason
oh rip
vast frigate
okay so gamza is one of those... ''GW IS SHIT NO ADVERTISING AND POLICING AND THEY FORCE MODEL CHANGES THEY DONT LIKE ANYTHING AND THEY BAD BECAUSE SJW BUZZWORD''
plush mason
i see
plush mason
plucky moth
that's what he looks like?
vast frigate
yes
plucky moth
pffft
vast frigate
you have to imagine that the IG are still soldiers
even more than most modern ones
Most of us can make that branch with training
but guys like him?
broken bridge
what im getting from these thumbnails is he really enjoys screaming about things
vast frigate
there is a reason why theres a meme around with a sister of battle going
''Loud and bloated citizen, where is your workstation overseer.''
that meme pokes at these youtubers
and for those who havent seen Arch, hes your typical.. goatee weird dude
plush mason
and for those who havent seen Arch, hes your typical.. goatee weird dude
not just that. he is your typical blond blue eyed neo nazi lol
vast frigate
Oh yeah
atomic pelican
get fat and enjoy either post-scarcity life or just advanced sci-fi luxury
Actually
Hell you could be on a CORE NAMED sept world and be pretty safe
I don't think the 1st sphere like ever gets attacked
vast frigate
you could be on any world and be pretty safe, unless its an unsafe world
plucky moth
plucky moth
yeah I suppose everyone is safe unless they aren't safe
barren tapir
<:ThinkingNoose:325664936011497482>
NO
vast frigate
i do love how GW implemented a few ways for modern humans to end up in 40k
and all of those examples ended up in them humans going ''Nope, nope nope nope, so much nope''
rose thorn
so, Traitor guard, is there a reason not all chaos cultist just join their closest traitor guard? and is there a reason they look less corrupt then like, cultist un general
vast frigate
because traitor guard doesnt mean theyre chaos worshipping
plush mason
<:ThinkingNoose:325664936011497482>
i want that lol
vast frigate
they could just be sick of the guard and become renegade/traitor
being attached to a marine group is also helpful
plush mason
yeah not all treason is heresy
rose thorn
ahhh,
vast frigate
because you have more certainty of survival
rose thorn
So wearing the like, sigils of chaos is less of a worship and more of like
proof of allegiance?
sign of allegiance more liek
lyric ember
So similar to say, night lords or iron warriors
rose thorn
yeah aligmnet thats the word
lyric ember
The enemy of my enemy is someone elses problem and all that
rose thorn
obviously some people will be more into it then others, liek teh
Ogryn and the commissar models
vast frigate
aye
rose thorn
thats prettu sick, 'fuck the imperium i dont want that shit'
'i want to commit crimes against life on my own terms'
lyric ember
So what weapons are considered like a bit "too much"
Like how we regard flamethrowers
rose thorn
i think in 40k is more of a how you use it
lyric ember
Obviously something like exterminatus is considered extreme, but im curious about handheld weapons
Or just infantry level
rose thorn
like the betrayer murdered like, everyone in hsi camp
adn there was an inquisitor who just spammed exterminatus too much and got kicked out
lyric ember
Kharn the betrayer and kryptman, yes
plush mason
kryptman is nothing but a b movie mad scientist lol
final spruce
so, Traitor guard, is there a reason not all chaos cultist just join their close...
Traitor Guard are still guard and as such, still maintain a power structure with officers and commissars
Cultists tend not to like stuff like authority since its the very tjing that usually makes them turn to Chaos so they dont fit well
plush mason
Traitor Guard are still guard and as such, still maintain a power structure with...
a lot of them do end up falling to chaos but rarely start out that way iirc
final spruce
Altough some cultists, if they show enough merit or potential can join traitor guards
rose thorn
oH SO IT SLITERALLY JUST CHAOS VERSION OF THE ASTTRA MILITARUM
cultists are liek the citizens
lyric ember
Yes but actually no
rose thorn
and the traitor gaurd ar eliterally the guard
final spruce
a lot of them do end up falling to chaos but rarely start out that way iirc
Indeed but we are talking about cultists aka chaos people joining chaos guard
Blood Pact are amongst the best known chaos guard if you wanna read more about them
lyric ember
Yeah they're cool, i reccomend checking them out
So, what happens to surviving mechanicus forces when their forge world is taken out
Such as with Gryphonne IV
rose thorn
So, what happens to surviving mechanicus forces when their forge world is taken ...
OH I KNOW THIS
usually they just say fuck it and if they can try to join a new forge world, or stay and try salvage what they can
lyric ember
Thats
Mildy surprising
Honestly i figured they'd just kill themselves or worship the ruins
rose thorn
well they have valuable info
and also, admech actually dont completely hate other forge worlds
barren tapir
Such as with Gryphonne IV
Gryphonne are still trying to find a world to settle afaik
lyric ember
What does afaik mean
barren tapir
As far i know
lyric ember
I see
Theres a surprisingly little amount of lore for them despite how supposedly badass and important they were
Which sucks, cause i love their colors
Also another weird question, if you nuke the mechanicus, as long as they dont get taken out by the fireball, do they honestly even care?
Like the radiation probably isnt as bad as what they inflict upon themselves
rose thorn
Like the radiation probably isnt as bad as what they inflict upon themselves
id assume they would actually not do too bad, if they can surivie teh nuclear winters then tehy should be okay
lyric ember
Id love a story that had people trying to nuke some mechanicus forces and then they just shrug it off and keep on with their life
barren tapir
Also another weird question, if you nuke the mechanicus, as long as they dont ge...
If you nuke them you destroy their machines, but i guess you are more asking if they care about being irradiated... And that depend on the forge world, some forge worlds are already completely irradiated so they wouldn't care much, others might care more
lyric ember
Hm okay
This is what i like about warhammer
The little tidbits
The small details that arent useful in any manner whatsoever
barren tapir
Remember that the genetors, one of the 4 ruling classes, were exactly made to deal with the mutations that were the consequences of radiation on mars... And that they are among the most important in the adeptus mechanicus hierarchy
lyric ember
Ive not heard of them
barren tapir
Also, in one short story of when the cicatrix was still forming iirc, it is shown that tech priest actually try to not get irradiated since seems to mess with their bionics
lyric ember
Thanks
barren tapir
You probably heard them being called in other ways, like magos biologis and similar
lyric ember
Ohhh
broken bridge
if fatshark does a button in game to yell lines like drg does for "rock and stone" what would make some good lines other than " for the emperor"
barren tapir
"I wish i wasn't here"
cerulean wagon
honestly, hope that button isn't in
because voiceline interrupts are bad enough in VT2
so many people having joined the discord without knowing the characters have stories in VT2
crisp heath
They have one
cerulean wagon
?
barren tapir
so many people having joined the discord without knowing the characters have sto...
But Skele, what if i want to create my char uh?
cerulean wagon
blank, i will fight you
atomic pelican
lime green boston basher guardsman with boombox on back + Buds(cost me 22 keys)
barren tapir
Also, some people seems to be interpreting the fact that we haven't got a 5th char revealed already as an indication that we might be capable to create our char
barren tapir
blank, i will fight you
cerulean wagon
Also, some people seems to be interpreting the fact that we haven't got a 5th ch...
ye because people are dumb
atomic pelican
that's a hilarious, yet so unlikely theory
Imagining 4 well crafted stories and aesthetics
then
cerulean wagon
imo we have already seen 5 characters
atomic pelican
the player created character
cerulean wagon
seeing as we have had 2 different guardsmen with the other 3
atomic pelican
John Warhammer
barren tapir
ye because people are dumb
Eh, go tell them that tiger, it is a post in the forgotten place that is steam forum
barren tapir
OOF
plucky moth
I’m the 5th character, class ability is shitposting
crisp heath
x)
broken bridge
Eh, go tell them that tiger, it is a post in the forgotten place that is steam f...
that reminds me its time to see if theres another ragepost about women in warhammer
tender igloo
don't forget about his brother, Arthur fourteekay
atomic pelican
LMAO
barren tapir
that reminds me its time to see if theres another ragepost about women in warham...
Don't think so, both Hedge and Aqshy seems more active now, and are doing good work cleaning the place
plush mason
i hate that
plucky moth
Men, Women and Guardsmen; the gender trinity
crisp heath
cerulean wagon
that reminds me its time to see if theres another ragepost about women in warham...
there was yesterday iirc
it was somethin
plush mason
Men, Women and Guardsmen; the gender trinity
oh what was the death korp meme along those lines
plucky moth
Anyway all non-mechanicus entities are technically non-binary
This is canon
broken bridge
Don't think so, both Hedge and Aqshy seems more active now, and are doing good w...
true but theres still people mad if they cant just play 4 generic guardsmen because they are scared of "rainbow characters"
barren tapir
Anyway all non-mechanicus entities are technically non-binary
This is canon
BS, even some mechanicus entities are non-binary
And that is canon
plucky moth
0s and 1s
crisp heath
Actually, i'm fine with those characters, i could be more happy with a Mechanicus or Eldar, but, meh, it's ok
plucky moth
Also imagine getting mad about “rainbow characters” when SM have always been incredibly gay
broken bridge
"the initial trailer showed that it was possible, I was wondering if this was just a rugpull just to include rainbow characters once players got interested in the game?" I dont get why someone would consider this a rugpull they didnt just pull this stuff out of their ass a lot of it has been lore for decades
atomic pelican
Gay mariachi band chapter
plucky moth
And they are based
atomic pelican
ugh god I just remembered how good the deathwing trailer was
I wish the game didnt suck LMAO
atomic pelican
Truuu
plucky moth
February 2023 hype
cerulean wagon
broken bridge
barren tapir
Personally i don't get the hate for the diverse cast... I mean, in l4d i sometime ended playing as the woman which i don't remember the name, and it wasn't the end of the world lol
atomic pelican
February 2023 hype
I think this would make DT the first game I've seen get uh
4 delays?
barren tapir
Or how people enjoyed playing unique char in VT2
atomic pelican
Or would that be 3
plucky moth
3
atomic pelican
Nvm then I think CPDR also had 3
plucky moth
4th will be August
broken bridge
wait did they delay again
atomic pelican
no just meming
crisp heath
Or how people enjoyed playing unique char in VT2
Me
cerulean wagon
people dont like the cast because they are sexist, and only feel truely a man when they are pretending to be a man on the internet
plucky moth
Same
plucky moth
I do believe in sexiness
crisp heath
Only Kerrilian
plush mason
them eyes tho
plucky moth
crisp heath
XD
crisp heath
It's.....cringe XD
plucky moth
atomic pelican
crisp heath
Bruh
plush mason
btw i love the meme that all the SMs and custodies are male cause big e was gay. namely cause it might as well be true
crisp heath
Incan you cringe me XD
broken bridge
im stealing that
plucky moth
I've never seen that emote before
Citrus is a magician
atomic pelican
LMAO
atomic pelican
<:shadeW:643224164064428037>
stung by bees
cerulean wagon
<:BOOMERELF:643224030320525353>
god i forgot this
plucky moth
crisp heath
XDDDDDDDDDDDD
plucky moth
plush mason
🗞️
cerulean wagon
terraria music 
storm jungle
💀
plush mason
lol
plush mason
so anyone know who the supreme grandmaster of the grey knights is in the current setting?
broken bridge
kaldor draigo according to wiki
plush mason
LOL
ofc the DOOM slayer of 40k would be
wait how does he lead if he is stuck in the warp?
does he just yeet himself out of the warp sometimes to tell people what to do then yeet himself back in?
broken bridge
he sends positive vibes to the other knights
barren tapir
All grey knight brotherhood are pretty much independent, the title is more an honour that one that actually manage stuff
barren tapir
does he just yeet himself out of the warp sometimes to tell people what to do th...
Well, he sometime manage to snip out the warp, mostly in big warp rift events, and since the grey knight are the ones that tend to handle that stuff they reunite, kick some demonic asses and then draigo get sucked back to the warp
So, yeah, he sometime lead them in battle when warp rifts opens
plush mason
||that happens in daemonhunters as well||
real stone
wait how does he lead if he is stuck in the warp?
You doubt Kaldor Draigo go?
plush mason
You doubt Kaldor Draigo go?
no
proper helm
real stone
vapid tiger
https://youtu.be/R9e7nSc-iKo
NEW PANCREAS WOOOOO
plush mason
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ThYFuz_tRo
lol
brittle nebula
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ThYFuz_tRo
I need to watch through these again.
coarse tree
In 40k if a human was on X world(Not Terra) and they saw a star associated with that world overhead, would they refer to it as the "sun" or do they use a specific name for that star?
storm jungle
In 40k if a human was on X world(Not Terra) and they saw a star associated with ...
wat
barren tapir
Let me rephrase...
If you are human on a planet, do you call the star that shine on such planet with a unique name or with sun?
dusk widget
If you're born and lived your whole life on any given planet, you've not known (other than an academic sense, anyways) any other "sun", so it would seem natural to call it the sun. Or maybe special names if there are binary/trinary stars in the system I guess.
storm jungle
i agree
lyric ember
Hows tuska-demon-killa doing?
Any updates on him or is he still just doing his thing
worn fern
Does that every annoy anyone, when these really big bad characters show up in a book, and then arent really dealt with and then nothing is mentioned again of them?
storm jungle
Eh kinda
40k is a big universe, and has character bloat
its bound to happen constantly
odd sparrow
i honestly prefer it, having the same cast of characters throughout everything makes settings feel smaller
worn fern
just in one of the books I read the ending was akin to more a wink at the camera that the big bad is still around
and then there has been nothing else ever spoken about him
and its eh, I'm not too bothered as I suppose as the "canoness" of the book is sorta weird
vapid tiger
i honestly prefer it, having the same cast of characters throughout everything m...
"Bring back all the Primarchs" fans fuming rn
vapid tiger
"Akshully the Imperium is quite reasonable!" cried the Imperium fanboy as the enforcer nailed him to a breaking wheel
cerulean wagon
tbf thats prob cult stuff
vapid tiger
Probably but the Imperium will still do that
storm jungle
"Akshully the Imperium is quite reasonable!" cried the Imperium fanboy as the en...
also yeah
when archo-flagellants exist i wouldnt put it past them
but according to him all servitors are artificially made
clearly a superior mind
vapid tiger
I think there was a necromunda comic that had a visual gag about imperial cultists like redemptionists not being all that dissimilar to chaos cultists
storm jungle
lmao yeah
shadow plover
Show me
barren tapir
There is a reason if many chaos cults, or xeno ones, manage to act fully in the light in the imperium...
shadow plover
oh for sure, not disputing that. I'd just like to see that comic page
vapid tiger
It was from one of the issues of uh
storm jungle
Theres a lot to dig through
vapid tiger
What the fuck was that comic called
vapid tiger
I think it was the redeemer yes
storm jungle
Redeemer has a lot of wacky shit yeah
vapid tiger
Redeemer is funny
But yeah when you're on a hive world and there's multiple groups who run around in the streets flagellating themselves, assaulting people, sacrificing people etc for the Emperor, a chaos cult is going to be difficult to detect compared to those
Hence why the ordo hereticus is a thing
also because someone has to keep the ecclesiarchy in check
rose thorn
That’s FICKING metal, that would be super cool Uhg, word bearer cultists
I find it funny that like
‘Library stubber, heavy stubber, bolter’
Then you have
‘Shotgun.’
vapid tiger
Library stubber?
vapid tiger
Which image
rose thorn
I mean it’s GSCs weapon
For the fucking cowboy
But I just find the names of like civilian weapons funny
That the shotgun has always been shotgun
vapid tiger
Oh right
Yeah that is kind of funny
But I suppose shotgun fits the whole
Lasgun, stubgun, boltgun designation thing
eternal rune
Why would they be using wooden carts?
storm jungle
Why would they be using wooden carts?
Because the Imperium is a backward hellhole
they literally use anything from medieval times
with like
skulls slapped on it
which is pretty based
eternal rune
Seems a bit grimderp when it's the year 41,000
eternal rune
I like the cool power armored knights kicking ass in space, not the weird shit thrown in to make it needlessly edgy and nihilistic in an otherwise nostalgic and traditional scifi setting
storm jungle
Thats literally 40k
The one where they used lobotimized cyborg slaves to do manual labor because AI is outlawed
Grimdark is kinda the point
cerulean wagon
I like the cool power armored knights kicking ass in space, not the weird shit t...
but the marines are the main part of the needless edge
see: teh 2 vampire SM chapters
and vulcan burning children
storm jungle
They weren't human children
Still younglings of a sentient species
eternal rune
The needless edge mainly comes from "imperium is backwards for no reason ohhh noooo they're the real baddies!"
eternal rune
Still younglings of a sentient species
who want to rape and murder you and are fundamentally different, like gremlins
eternal rune
have you ever read the opening text of 40k
Every other race is worse
storm jungle
Thats just your alien racism talking
You do realise the Imperium enslaves human populations that resist them too right
eternal rune
Only if they resist
storm jungle
Spoken like a true fascist
eternal rune
To prevent them being possessed by demons
eternal rune
Spoken like a true fascist
buzzwords much?
storm jungle
You are literally saying the word "rape" and "slavery" constantly lol
So dont go point fingers at me first.
eternal rune
Fair enough.
storm jungle
The Imperium is just as worse as anyone else in the setting.
eternal rune
But they are humanity
storm jungle
If you dont really want to accept that its kinda your fault
storm jungle
But they are humanity
Who kill each other more than the actual aliens
storm jungle
They arent
eternal rune
Imperium is a lot better than it was before Guilliman.
storm jungle
The survivors of Cadia for example got enslaved after going to a forgeworld
And servitorized
lol
eternal rune
So I'm not sure why fatshark is adding WOODEN CARTS like the citizens of the imperium are medieval peasants when the imperium is currently in a technological and cultural renaissance and age of rediscovery, where it's beginning to become the more noblebright 30k imperium again
eternal rune
Should be seeing regular citizens be able to afford hover cars or something
storm jungle
Hover technology isnt everywhere
the Imperium is a backward hellhole, as said before
vapid tiger
God fuck
vapid tiger
Primaris marines do not represent the majority of the imperium it's still a fascist hellhole
eternal rune
Primaris marines do not represent the majority of the imperium it's still a fasc...
Didn't the IG get a hovertank recently?
storm jungle
No
eternal rune
It might still be bad but like
once the other primarchs return we'll be all good in the hood and crusading in the woods
storm jungle
Crusading who
storm jungle
aliens who just get genocided?
eternal rune
Crusading who
Aliens and filth
storm jungle
Because might makes right
eternal rune
Four satans
storm jungle
Not every non-imperial worships chaos
eternal rune
Because might makes right
God makes right
storm jungle
you know this right
plucky moth
God in 40k is the chaos gods tho innit
plush mason
big e isnt a god lol
storm jungle
Last I checked Jesus was a chaos god
odd tulip
big e isnt a god lol
He wasnt, but he is now
eternal rune
He is
storm jungle
So do you approve of killing an unarmed child and mother because they arent a part of the Imperium?
vapid tiger
@eternal rune hey you know the Emperor is literally a perfect analogy for Satan right
plush mason
He wasnt, but he is now
poor basterd
odd tulip
poor basterd
Literally. Became the very thing he swore to destroy.
plush mason
yup
vapid tiger
eternal rune
Uhhhh
storm jungle
Its like being a brainwashed zealot is bad or something
eternal rune
What?
eternal rune
He's literally a christ figure
odd tulip
no
eternal rune
Sacrifices himself for the greater good and all
plush mason
no
storm jungle
He didnt
he got
fucking stabbed
LMAO
You do realise he never wanted to be on the throne right
plucky moth
his sacrifice was due to bad parenting
vapid tiger
He's literally Satan, specifically revelations satan
plucky moth
pretty much a Kronos figure
vapid tiger
He expunges all faith in exchange for his mark and worship of worldly things
Ends up entombed for 10,000 years
odd tulip
He's literally a christ figure
In modern cannon most of emps' power is stolen from the chaos gods, and his 'ascension' to the throne is an equivalent for lucifer being cast from heaven
eternal rune
But he planned to be worshipped
plucky moth
Emps doing a necron cosplay
storm jungle
LMAO
vapid tiger
In modern cannon most of emps' power is stolen from the chaos gods, and his 'asc...
That too
odd tulip
He hated being worshipped
vapid tiger
Thank you for beating me to it
storm jungle
HE LITERALLY
plush mason
But he planned to be worshipped
no he did not
eternal rune
Well that's just shitty nulore from mike brooks or something
storm jungle
DO YOU READ ANY BOOKS
eternal rune
or adb
vapid tiger
Ah yes
storm jungle
Blaming authors now
vapid tiger
The big bad evil adb and mike brooks
storm jungle
lmao
vapid tiger
Did they do a communism on you?
storm jungle
Communism is pretty based tho
odd tulip
All horus heresy books are cannon, doesnt matter on the writer
eternal rune
Communism amongst gw and the community is a real threat to the setting considering the active contempt gw has for it
storm jungle
KDSDFKS
odd tulip
WHU
vapid tiger
storm jungle
GW are a soviet based company yes
plucky moth
do you find ADB has a tendency to nag 40k?
eternal rune
HAVE YOU SEEN MODEL PRICES
Yeah
plush mason
LOL
eternal rune
Artificial inflation
vapid tiger
Man
I can't believe the corporation in a system built on greed is being greedy!
It must be....
odd tulip
GW would stab its own mum for a stack of pennies
storm jungle
ADB is a communist last time i heard
vapid tiger
Did arch tell you that?
storm jungle
because he writes bad books
plush mason
GW would stab its own mum for a stack of pennies
a stack? try just one
storm jungle
Next you'll tell me gay people dont exist in 40k
eternal rune
One at a time, people!
plucky moth
they do exist, they're called space marines
eternal rune
Next you'll tell me gay people dont exist in 40k
I mean they do
imperium just doesn't give a shit
storm jungle
But
odd tulip
did hedge fix homoerotic being banned as a word
odd tulip
yay!
storm jungle
also yeah he did i think
eternal rune
they do exist, they're called space marines
???
plucky moth
space marines are hella gay
eternal rune
you said the Imperium loves its citizens
It does, let me find the quote
storm jungle
DSFKDFKJS
plucky moth
you can't put that many hairless muscle men in a room together without some Spartan love going on
plush mason
lol true
odd tulip
just gunna put this here
eternal rune
"Tl;dr the Imperium of Man has more in common with the United Federation of Planets in terms of government structure than it does with the Galactic Empire. They're allowed to rule with relative independence, as long as they pay their tithes and obey the Imperial Cult. This does, of course, lead to many worlds being shitholes ruled by greedy homicidal tyrants, but there are plenty of examples of peaceful and even prosperous worlds. It really depends on galactic location and just chance. As long as you're not a xenos race or attempt to cut ties with the Imperium, you have a chance of living a comfortable life. And with millions of worlds with trillions of people inhabiting them, those chances might actually be decent."
"The vast majority of worlds are Civilized Worlds (also known as "Imperial Worlds", but that is a stupid and confusing name so fuck that) and the vast majority of Civilized Worlds are quite pleasant places to be and are still pretty much what the Great Crusade created barring the addition of the Imperial Creed over the Imperial Truth. Most of the grimdark happens on a handful of worlds in the Imperium and even then only specific spots (like the Underhive of a particularly harsh Hive World). For all but a minuscule number of humans, life in the Imperium really is pretty great. You have a guaranteed job (that is not going to hurt you, unlike working on a Forge World), a higher standard of living than a modern first world country (civilian technology is quite advanced still since nearly every world produces it so it can't really be lost, unlike advanced military tech), easy access to extremely cheap transportation, etc. So, as long as you can dodge the draft into the Guard, you'll be totally good (until the Commissar or local priest comes looking for you for dodging). Although, there aren't drafts for the Guard (depending on world, but it's rare). Conscription is performed on rare occasions to provide manpower to nearby warzones temporarily and once that battle is over they are returned home. This might seem oddly generous, but remember: the Imperium genuinely cares about its citizens."
vapid tiger
Zamn
storm jungle
AN OFFICIAL GW WRITER, actually mocked this 4chan entry
vapid tiger
They do be using 4chan lore now
plush mason
just gunna put this here
Papasmurf took the words right out of my mouth
eternal rune
AN OFFICIAL GW WRITER, actually mocked this 4chan entry
Link it.
storm jungle
1 sec
eternal rune
Because by all accounts it's right
odd tulip
literally copypastaing 1d4chan now huh
storm jungle
Its not
eternal rune
It wouldn't surprise me tho
storm jungle
now be quiet
eternal rune
Considering how much GW hates 40k and seems to walk to kill it in favor of AoS
odd tulip
this is actually from a 40k book
barren tapir
"The vast majority of worlds are Civilized Worlds (also known as "Imperial World...
Who is the idiot that wrote this crap?
eternal rune
Yeah, and this is why he improved the Imperium. AKA no fucking wooden carts
odd tulip
Considering how much GW hates 40k and seems to walk to kill it in favor of AoS
yeah Im sure GW hates its most profitable product
odd tulip
he is trying to improve the imperium
he his hitting a lot of walls
please read the actual goddamn books
eternal rune
He is killing heretics and xenos while also purging incompetency and evil, improving the lives for the everyday citizen through reforms that should allow normal citizens to have comfy lives
even on hives
barren tapir
Oh god, it was 1d4chan...
storm jungle
He is killing heretics and xenos while also purging incompetency and evil, impro...
Nobody in 40k has comfy lives
unless you are a rich person
like IRL
odd tulip
THAT HAS DEVELOPED TECH
Hive worlds are built over thousands of years and much of the tech used to create them is lost. They arent pinnacles of technological wonder, and almost everyone living in them is about as smart as a medieval peasant
barren tapir
Well, this is what happen when people just get the first contact with the setting
vapid tiger
1d4chan is one of the capital reasons for so many imperium defenders
When it was recommended as an entry source for new fans for lore constantly
And its imperium article was just
Riddled with that sort of shit
plush mason
Oh god, it was 1d4chan...
i want to know who the idiot was that wrote that BS on 4chan tbh
barren tapir
I asked the same thing
eternal rune
Hive worlds are built over thousands of years and much of the tech used to creat...
then the imperium would not function
odd tulip
It DOESNT
eternal rune
Guard work is even like
storm jungle
THE LORE SAYS THIS
odd tulip
The imperium is constantly on the backfoot
plush mason
then the imperium would not function
thats the whole fucking point
plush mason
no
eternal rune
conscription is only done when necessary
odd tulip
LMAO
eternal rune
hence why conscripts have worse stats ingame
storm jungle
??????
plush mason
no
vapid tiger
hence why conscripts have worse stats ingame
Oh Oh I know this one guys
barren tapir
The imperium is actually burning, and the reason it is lasting so much is that it is hella big
vapid tiger
Okay so like
The fluff of conscript units in the actual wargame is that they are child soldiers.
That is why they have worse stats.
barren tapir
Guard isn't volountary, it is mandatory for worlds to give people
vapid tiger
They just can't call them "child soldiers" ingame and just sneak that bit into the codex itself
barren tapir
And in very bad cases they conscripts even more
plucky moth
planets literally pay man power tithes to fuel guard numbers
vapid tiger
Or uh
"Slave stock given a lasgun and told to shoot with no training"
eternal rune
that's fucking grimderp
storm jungle
its not
barren tapir
There is actually one instance of voluntary recruitment, and it is elysia
And even then it is just a minor part
plush mason
that's fucking grimderp
nah its official lore
eternal rune
Only would make sense if the world was falling and they needed emergency recruits, like in Berlin
plucky moth
that's...what's happening
eternal rune
Where it made sense since the country had already collapsed by then
plucky moth
the imperium is burning on the regular
vapid tiger
Okay why
barren tapir
The fluff of conscript units in the actual wargame is that they are child soldie...
Those are the whiteshields
vapid tiger
Anyway
vapid tiger
the imperium is burning on the regular
THIS
plucky moth
Cadia fell m8
obtuse vault
NOOO WAAYYU
odd tulip
All imperial planets pay a tithe. That tithe includes a portion of its population for the Astra Militarum. The administratum is none to picky over who they get sent- be it raw recruits or experienced veterans. This means that most worlds choose to send conscripts over their experienced soldiers, as this way the good soldiers can be kept as PDF. The guard then trains those recruits over a pretty short period of time to be perfect cannon fodder.
storm jungle
NOOO WAAYYU
Same guy that called Eldar rapists and molestors btw
barren tapir
The Imperium is too busy winning, chaos fanboy
Why don't you go back to your shitty source for lore and leave actual experts talk about it?
obtuse vault
whoops wrong chat ill be back lovelies~
Making fun of this guy elsewhere my apologies
plucky moth
eye of terror still be banging out, Tyranids are still an ever present threat
gene stealers fucking dabbed on custodes recently
plucky moth
etc. etc.
eternal rune
you're losing
odd tulip
The Imperium is too busy winning, chaos fanboy
The whole point of the IoM is that it isn't winning. It is constantly hanging off the edge of a cliff, just barely clinging to life.
vapid tiger
Is that fucking valrak
eternal rune
The *whole point* of the IoM is that it isn't winning. It is constantly hanging ...
It's literally going to close the rift soon
plucky moth
custodes when they find a mining charge
odd tulip
Based on what???
plush mason
this dude
eternal rune
and chaos will be back on the backfoot
storm jungle
FDSFJDKS
plucky moth
Crons will win the setting anyway
eternal rune
What's wrong with valrak
obtuse vault
Same guy that called Eldar rapists and molestors btw
plush mason
Your brain on chapter master valrak???
sounds like it
eternal rune
Same guy that called Eldar rapists and molestors btw
THEY WERE DRUKHARI
plush mason
Crons will win the setting anyway
nah nids will
storm jungle
YOU FUCKING MORON
eternal rune
DRUKHARI CHILDREN WHO STILL NEED TO FEED ON PAIN TO SURVIVE
storm jungle
okay now this is just wrong lore
peak hamlet
🍿
vapid tiger
r/40klore moment
barren tapir
all will be right
Why don't you go back to the pain glove? I think you might enjoy it since you like awful lore
plucky moth
don't mess with 40k fans
plush mason
dark eldar dont have kids afaik
plucky moth
we can't read
storm jungle
dark eldar dont have kids afaik
Trueborns exist but are all in commorragh and uh
you know
eternal rune
Shut the fuck up
storm jungle
not on a random agri planet
storm jungle
Shut the fuck up
plush mason
Trueborns exist but are all in commorragh and uh
oh lol
barren tapir
okay now this is just wrong lore
Come on, they didn't stated anything right about lore
eternal rune
Are you gonna accuse agri worlds of being hellholes too you chaos fanboy?
odd tulip
Shut the fuck up
r e a d t h e b o o k s
vapid tiger
Are you gonna accuse agri worlds of being hellholes too you chaos fanboy?
Yes, actually
plucky moth
Are you gonna accuse agri worlds of being hellholes too you chaos fanboy?
man you're being real naggy rn
eternal rune
oh my fucking god
barren tapir
Are you gonna accuse agri worlds of being hellholes too you chaos fanboy?
Some are
obtuse vault
dark eldar dont have kids afaik
Yeah some drukhari do have real kids. They are even a feature in the tabletop game- they have better weapon skills than their regular Kabalite counterparts
storm jungle
peak hamlet
I heard hes afraid of chaos fanboys, im glad to inform you that i am, in fact, a chaos fanboy
storm jungle
GUYS LOOK
barren tapir
There are agri worlds that are actually hell holes
storm jungle
WHAT A PARADISE
odd tulip
There are very, very few fun places to live in the IoM
vapid tiger
He's typing
plucky moth
anyway I banned him, sorry funs over
storm jungle
dfdskjds
plush mason
rip
peak hamlet
anyway I banned him, sorry funs over
Noooooo
obtuse vault
anyway I banned him, sorry funs over
NOOOOO
peak hamlet
Just got here
storm jungle
When he started defending medieval slavery and plantations it was game over
cerulean wagon
https://64.media.tumblr.com/119e2ce3c80245cebc30f6a22c93bb91/a2fe3b828ecfd92c-6f...
vapid tiger
IT WAS SO ENTERTAINING
cerulean wagon
thanks C7
barren tapir
anyway I banned him, sorry funs over
Not even solitary confinement?
cerulean wagon
pogchamp
obtuse vault
When he started defending medieval slavery and plantations it was game over
It was a waiting game from then on lol
vapid tiger
He said "dreadanon is based, he hates naggers"
peak hamlet
Time to head out again, fun over 😔
plucky moth
(I was gonna ban him like 10 minutes ago, he was already dead I was just seeing how deep he wanted to dig)
vapid tiger
Pretty sure we know what he meant to say
obtuse vault
Imperial fans b like "well have you considered the benefits of slavery?"
plucky moth
the "naggers" bit sealed the deal yeah
barren tapir
He literally didn't say one, ONE!, thing right about lore
vapid tiger
As he went "EHEHEHEHEHHE NAGGERS HEHEHEHEHHE I BET THEY'LL NEVER KNOW"
cerulean wagon
ye i saw that and just, assumed he was dead
plucky moth
that+"arch is based" is like yeah ok that's not even a little subtle my dude
vapid tiger
Valrak fans b like
plucky moth
like yesterday or day before
vapid tiger
valrak seems like a nice guy tho
vapid tiger
Shame every single fan of his I've encountered has been some sort of weirdo or fascist
plucky moth
also can't believe he called me a chaos fanboy....I like guard and orks
barren tapir
Valrak has a very light take on lore, it is not something that can be blamed, but it is easy for others to jump on what he say and the warp it even more
vapid tiger
2nd battle of damnos
broken bridge
god i always miss the good shit
cerulean wagon
damnos ye
vapid tiger
Valrak has a very light take on lore, it is not something that can be blamed, bu...
Valrak is a nice guy but is very much an Imperial fanboy who just wants to see the space knights crush the bad space knights and the aliens
Which you know what good for him but uh
Not my style
barren tapir
also can't believe he called me a chaos fanboy....I like guard and orks
He called us chaos fanboys, i mean, i never touched chaos stuff... Always guard and Ad. Mech.
vapid tiger
There's a subculture, specifically on 4chan and reddit, of imperium fanboys calling anyone who criticizes it a "chaos fanboy" especially if adb is brought up
Usually by them first
barren tapir
Like, we have some chaos players, but they weren't even present at the time
cerulean wagon
i guess guard/GSC player atm
cause i refuse to play eldar in theri current state and make other peoples games unfun
barren tapir
There's a subculture, specifically on 4chan and reddit, of imperium fanboys call...
Great, i never read adb too
vapid tiger
ADB's p good
obtuse vault
also can't believe he called me a chaos fanboy....I like guard and orks
FUNNIEST SHIT I EVER SAW
barren tapir
Literally all he said about chaos fanboy is completely missing the point on many of us
vapid tiger
No no you see if you think the imperium is bad then you obviously are just a chaos fanboy etc etc
scenic bolt
obviously I'm the superior person in chat cause I think the imperium is epic and based and chad
plucky moth
I like the guard because they have to struggle against the wider world including their shitty government
barren tapir
I literally cannot stand people that try to justify the imperium because "they are humanity!" or "they are the only hope for salvation from chaos!"
NO FOR FUCK SAKE!
The imperium is the reason the shit is keep going!
vapid tiger
I literally cannot stand people that try to justify the imperium because "they a...
they are the reason why chaos is so powerful
