40k-lore-chat

[final oxide]

since it's always about some human traitors

usually one Ork boss just krumps another

and this is like full blown civil war

they can even have some interesting historical allusions - Imperium can give them guns and supplies to destroy the Ork Waaaagh from within

and they krump Imperial forces after defeating the Orks, lol

with their own weapons

[empty current]

I'd want to see a Q'orl or Rak'Gol army be released before red grots

both of them are very interesting xenos, and the Q'orl have a larger empire than the Tau that's closer to Terra too, but they get no love

[final oxide]

wait I think I heard something like Rak'Gol from outside WH

did they have something like that in SW?

[empty current]

in Starwars there's a creature called a rakghoul, but not the same thing

The Rak'Gol are the xenos of the Khronus Expanse, and some the scariest and coolest motherfuckers in the galaxy. There's a surprising amount of lore and art for them for all that GW does fuck all with them.

[final oxide]

Wait

[empty current]

they've been around for a long ass time too

[final oxide]

they have like a different name

something weird

yignir or something

I forgot

[empty current]

idk

Rak'gol ships

[final spruce]

Snotlings and gretchins are a different orkoid specie than orks

Like squigs

[empty current]

yeah

[final oxide]

Do you remember some xenos that are like super parasites or something?

[final spruce]

The Nagi ?

[empty current]

There are the Slaugth

[final oxide]

maybe

basically in one fanfic Isha and Big E talked about them

[empty current]

The Slaugth are some of the scariest fuckers but they don't work as a faction they're much more of an inquisition threat.

They did cause the Rangdan Xenocide though

[final oxide]

Rangdan, yes!

But she also called them with some weird word

[empty current]

There's also the Yuvath who were responsible for the Angevin Crusade being a massive mess

[final oxide]

oh

I've found it

K'nib

"I did not wish to cure the K'nib. Those revolting parasites have always been monsters, and deserve only annihilation. The Krork, however, were valuable allies, once upon a time. I...I attempted to find a way to restore their sanity. I failed."

[novel fulcrum]

it's probably for the best that gw doesn't do anything with them now

[final oxide]

They are hiring new writers

Maybe they will be good

[novel fulcrum]

writers can't circumvent the direction of the board

if the surest investor-pleaser is more spess mahreens, we're gonna get more spess mahreens

[final oxide]

oi

I do loike does Spacy Morons

btw, is it true that Gork and Mork used to be one god?

[novel fulcrum]

i don't recall that, but i do know that the orks used to not be able to remember which one was which

[final oxide]

Isha was well aware that her ability to see Gorkamorka as more than just a living weapon had been because of the empathetic abilities she possessed as the Goddess of Life. Even the rest of her Pantheon had found the Two Headed Krork God to be strange and off-putting long before Gorkamorka had succumbed to madness.

[novel fulcrum]

in 40k it looks like gorkamorka is a world that got hit by a space hulk and infested with orks, but it also seems that gorkamorka is an age of sigmar god, essentially gork and mork fused into one

so yes, but not in this universe specifically

[final oxide]

Hulk that is in space... We'll call it Spacey Hulk!

[final oxide]

It's uncertain I guess

they didn't explore that part of the lore in 40k

[novel fulcrum]

well if it's entirely unspoken, as far as i'm concerned, it didn't happen

that's fair to assume, yeah?

clearly they already enjoy having recreated fantasy events in 40k, so if it was something they had wanted for it, i think they'd have done it

[final oxide]

🤔

or they were busy

with their Spacey Morons

and just forgot

[cerulean wagon]

its because GW doesn't technically own them

[novel fulcrum]

that'd explain it

[final oxide]

wot

really?

[cerulean wagon]

they are a faction created by FFG for the warhammer fantasy TTRPGs (specifically Rogue trader)

[final oxide]

copyrights are weird

[novel fulcrum]

there is quite a few things that have been in the setting, but isn't technically a full-on copyright-protected property

[cerulean wagon]

FFG no longer work with GW, or make TTRPGs for that matter, so the lore has ceased to be

[novel fulcrum]

and that too, some are held by other setting writers like that

s'why you never see maccabian janissaries

[final oxide]

lol imagine any major popular faction disappearing like that

The Great Copyright Chaos God took them

[cerulean wagon]

you mean like orks almost did?

we lost squats isntead

[final oxide]

I knew it

but I was afraid to ask

[final oxide]

The sacrifice has appeased the Dark One

😔

[cerulean wagon]

squats n orks were owned by the same guy

[final oxide]

did they pay him off?

[proper helm]

They're a fantasy flight thing so I don't know how much they can

[empty current]

They still deserve it though

and if not them then the Q'orl

they're literally said in lore to be the biggest minor xeno empire, bigger than the tau but limited by not having FTL

but we got nadda on them

[vapid rivet]

But aren't Squat supposed to return in the next version of the game as they wrote a thing about short guy in the psychic awakening about the mechanicum ?

[vast frigate]

Nah

Squats coming back would probably be part of a subfaction

Gw didnt like how they fit into the lore considering the mechanicus does the tech stuff and gsc do mining

So squats became space biker dwarves

[vapid rivet]

At least squat are named now , it is better than nothing ...

And I don't remember if it is in Ravenor books or Bequin books but the rogue trader who help Ravenor talk about short guy he met in one of his expedition , so we can speculate the mighty Dan wrote about squat ^^'

I think it is in the last Ravenor book

[cerulean wagon]

its not even that, they lost squats cause the guy who owns the tights to them and orks left, and they could only keep one

[dim totem]

who owns the squat tights 😳

[cerulean wagon]

u

[dim totem]

https://tenor.com/view/sexy-stockings-gif-9923394

[dim totem]

u like what u see, skelly?

[cerulean wagon]

[vast frigate]

Oh right yeah

I keep remembering the store managers explanation

[vast frigate]

GUYS GUYS GUYS

THE ELDAR ARE A DYING RACE

THE ELDAR ARE A DYING RACE GUYS

GAV THORPE SHOULDNT HAVE BEEN REMOVED BECAUSE ITS A DYING RACE GUYS

[storm jungle]

God I hate that piece of shit

lmao

[vast frigate]

seriously

they shouldnt have added this

As a race struggling for survival is fine

but they had to add A DYING RACE

[storm jungle]

Like, im not even mad.

Its more that saying they're a dying race is a bit ironic when their numbers are practically infinite since they gotta have a model-line

[vast frigate]

yeap

[storm jungle]

💀 Ah well no biggy

[vast frigate]

But

remember dilara

ITS A DYING RACE

i was trying to get information on how to play them in store today from a store manager and another employee KEPT GOING

''Careful dude, they gonna get squatted hahahaha''

[final oxide]

🐒

[storm jungle]

AAA-

I remember being in the UK, and one store owner tried to sell me those cringe-ass old guardian minis

"they look good for their age"

[final oxide]

I don't understanding anything but it's funny af

tabletop memes

[vast frigate]

uhh

Gav Thorpe tried ruining eldar lore by making the ancient elves dumb as rocks

and weak as a paper bag

And his entire Trope was ''Theyre a dying race that makes bad decisions!''

So GW kinda let him go on the official writing department because his books simply arent popular
But theres still anti-eldar players, mostly marine chuds, who think his books are fine

so to that end, he posted on twitter that its sad, because theres a big audience waiting for his books

[final oxide]

https://c.tenor.com/3y7quG_irCwAAAAM/concern-concern-meme.gif

wtf

You know

I'm getting more and more concerned the more time I spend on this server

copyright disputes

weird writers

wh40k seems to have some problems

I mean, more problems than I thought

[storm jungle]

40k usually has that issue because it spawned from pop culture

so its birth was uplifted by many other franchises and it borrowing things from them

[storm jungle]

Sneaking.

[vast frigate]

CREEEED harharhar

[gusty fulcrum]

I like how their flag is just a dirty sock

[final oxide]

Did Guilliman tried to do anything with the Emperor?

[errant mauve]

He had a chat with him

[final oxide]

like a "chat" chat or like an incoherent psychic stream of thoughts and concepts "chat"?

[final spruce]

The second one

[final oxide]

I knew it

[novel fulcrum]

iirc emps called him a tool

[final oxide]

🤨

too horny for dat eldar gf I guess

"Ha! Simp."

[storm jungle]

https://tenor.com/view/are-you-serious-jay-bauman-half-in-the-bag-break-the4th-wall-look-at-the-camera-gif-17253460

[final oxide]

🐒

eldussy

[storm jungle]

stop lol

[snow tundra]

https://tenor.com/view/metal-gear-rising-jetstream-sam-dies-of-cringe-metal-gear-maxor-gif-24590613

[final oxide]

https://tenor.com/view/metal-gear-rising-raiden-metal-gear-rising-senator-armstrong-opinion-rejected-anime-gif-24774461

[snow tundra]

not anime tho

get destroyed by facts and logic

[final oxide]

https://tenor.com/view/angie-tonge-angelique-tonge-ange-tonge-dave-tonge-dave-and-angie-tonge-gif-14893725

[snow tundra]

bro do your research it's a webcomic

[vast frigate]

https://tenor.com/view/metal-gear-rising-raiden-metal-gear-rising-senator-armstrong-opinion-rejected-anime-gif-24774461

[tranquil mist]

Lmao

I agree

[snow tundra]

https://tenor.com/view/discord-discord-drama-drama-argument-political-gif-24419538

[final oxide]

https://tenor.com/view/senator-armstrong-metal-gear-metal-gear-rising-out-senator-armstrong-out-gif-23706021

[storm jungle]

https://cdn.kapwing.com/final_6212ddc6b0fb2500f16c8993_265144.gif

[vapid tiger]

skull facemask pfp detected

opinion discarded

[final oxide]

https://tenor.com/view/bruh-gif-23163386

[storm jungle]

Lmao

also i gotta spam this whenever anton asks lore stuff again

https://cdn.kapwing.com/final_6212ddc6b0fb2500f16c8993_579907.gif

[vast frigate]

https://cdn.kapwing.com/final_6212ddc6b0fb2500f16c8993_579907.gif

[final oxide]

😎 I already know everything I need

mostly from memes channel

[storm jungle]

Explains the brain rot

[final oxide]

hoi4 side effect

😔

[chrome dragon]

Anyone who still plays HOI4 wears thigh high stockings

[final oxide]

https://tenor.com/view/ice-eating-ok-and-gif-19666657

[snow tundra]

I don't play whatever that is but I still wear thigh high stockings

[errant mauve]

Another good day to not play HOI4

[final oxide]

https://tenor.com/view/jeststream-sam-gif-24832446

I was addressed as a girl 100 of times anyways, so... 😎

wait, hoi4 demons, get of my head

🙈

https://tenor.com/view/gu-p-girls-und-panzer-cosplay-bokoen-hoi4-gif-24100448

[final oxide]

https://tenor.com/view/hoi4-micromanage-gif-20717885

[errant mauve]

Army composition? Why don't you compose yourself a social life.

[final oxide]

We have a popular meme template in the Russian web rn. It's a cool looking skeleton saying phrases like this.

[errant mauve]

Based

[chrome dragon]

Is it a Skeleton doing Mk11 terminator victory animations

https://tenor.com/view/schizophrenic-schizophrenia-wins-mortal-kombat-skeleton-gif-24683632

[final oxide]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/319031179149836289/943282725207556136/da05dc05553751076adf06ce36363b03.mp4

[proper helm]

Oh yeah there's something kinda similar to that with english speakers

Also, ah yes

40k lore

[final oxide]

[odd sparrow]

roboass

[vast frigate]

[vast frigate]

Robobooty is acceptable as well

[final oxide]

https://tenor.com/view/robot-glutencord-discord-admins-gif-19155051

[plush mason]

heresy

[alpine ingot]

"what are you going to do, blow me?"
"Well yes in a sense."
"Oh! well let me jus-"
** FUS RO DAH**
"I was mislead!"

[plush mason]

do eldar have a titan sized class of war mechine?

[cerulean wagon]

yes

eldar titans

[plush mason]

lol

are they just giant wraithlords?

[final spruce]

https://sm.ign.com/t/ign_ru/video/w/warhammer-/warhammer-40k-dawn-of-war-3-eldar-wraith-knight-reveal-ign-l_m14g.1200.jpg

Wraithknight

[cerulean wagon]

Phantom and reaver titans

[plush mason]

so yeah giant wraithlords more or less

[cerulean wagon]

in the same way titans are giant sentinels i guess

[plush mason]

hell warlord titans are just giant knights lol

[vast frigate]

When has "Make gun bigger" not turned out fairly well

Er.. except germany

[storm jungle]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/735819155608961044/892537539406233660/m8hc21llvaq71.mp4

[azure wing]

Anton noooooo

dont fall to the dark side

[plush mason]

lol

[crisp heath]

Thought id drop this here. Still gotta paint him.

[storm jungle]

A lethal boyo

man I gotta fiddle with heroforge more

[vapid tiger]

Heroforge more like heroBORE

[rose thorn]

Aw man miltiarum tempestus regiment specific lore kinda blows

Like over all lore is super cool

But by them selves it’s kinda eh

All the scions regiments are all pretty samey

[barren tapir]

Samey? I wouldn't say that... Lambdan lion are tech savvy scions, then we have anti eldar scions, anti psykers scions, anti nurgle scions... They are quite different, sure not to the same extent of imperial guard regiments, but still different

[rose thorn]

Fair

[barren tapir]

So, what do you like? Probably there is a regiment that do that

[storm jungle]

Nah they’re right still

Scions might he unique in tactics but they still look samey. The surface lore does a bad job of presenting it.

[errant mauve]

Cyborkpunk

[final spruce]

^

Scions suffer from being "new" and being part of a forgotten army

[barren tapir]

They should have went further into them as new guard imo

[proper helm]

yeah... yeah

[barren tapir]

Primaris guard well before there were any primaris

[proper helm]

weren't stormtroopers part of the guard for a long time before?

[final spruce]

Yeah, kaskrins even had their own metal minis

You would use their minis for stormtroopers

[barren tapir]

Stormtrooper akin troops are still part of the guard though... Kasrkin are one of such types, then we have krieg grenadiers, catachan devils for catachans

[proper helm]

Had those cool gas masks

[final spruce]

We're talking tabletopt ho

[barren tapir]

Oh

[final spruce]

But yeah kaskrins and stormtroopers are still part of the lore too

like Blank said

[proper helm]

I guess you could use veterans or scions, but the scions don't get regimental stuff and veterans are still wearing cardboard

[barren tapir]

Weren't veterans allowed to use carapace once?

I remember them being really good infantry squad

[final spruce]

Yeah scions used to get it but since Nachmund you're not allowed to have a side detachment that isn't your main keyword

[final spruce]

They "used" to that's the issue

[barren tapir]

Yeah, i know, they were too good for being infantry of the IG amirite? Fokken meme about guards being noob

[final spruce]

It was also came with pretty lore bit where vets would literally steal it but the officers wouldn't say anything because those guys had more experience than them

Or looking for it at the black market / local ratling

[proper helm]

I love that 50% of a veteran's arsenal is stolen or bartered

[barren tapir]

That was the best part lol, people that survived long enough to get a suit from battlefield and the officers that let it pass because they were great soldiers... Also why the fuck a guard shouldn't be capable to own a carapace armour? This smell like officers classism and elitism to me...

[proper helm]

classism and elitism are the pillars of the Imperium, along with fascist death cultism

[barren tapir]

No no, never give good stuff to guards, or they might start to think they are valuable troops gne gne gne

[proper helm]

I'm 90% sure that even commanders are stuck on a 5+, so they don't have carapace either

[barren tapir]

TBF it is how i always picture british officers during the redcoat times

But probably it is also sharpe that affected my POV

[final spruce]

Yeah they are now stuck to 5+ too, carapace was too good I guess

[novel fulcrum]

afaik the guard rely more on their refractor fields

for officers and the like

[final spruce]

But that's msotly so that they stay pretty cheap since they got that refractor field with a 5++

[novel fulcrum]

yeh

[final spruce]

You were faster

Yeah platoon and company commanders get'em

Priests have a better invul than them

[atomic pelican]

guard are the only army GW wants to be actively affected by assassins

which is mildly hilarious

[novel fulcrum]

priests are closer to god

[final spruce]

Just put the guy in a tank, he should be safe from it

Not the incoming melta tho

[atomic pelican]

Thats what you think

[novel fulcrum]

simply assassinate the tank

[atomic pelican]

I once had a sanctus kill a TC with the Gift

[final spruce]

I'm not surprised lmao

[atomic pelican]

https://youtu.be/toxgPV8tuw8

[rose thorn]

I’m thinking or making a tallarn guardsmen desert raiders veterans guardsmen killteam

And probably end up never playing killteams

oh yeah indigan praefects

they haveno lore but i love them so much i cant pass up on them

[proper helm]

they're the poor bastards that have to deal with the environmental disaster that was their planetary governor's 'pets' getting loose

and covering their world in megafauna

so they get called up to deal with the 'nids, because the reward for good work is more work

That's basically all their lore, but it's really funny lore

[rose thorn]

It’s SOOOO GOOOD

I love them so much

But they have so little content to work off of

I also love the middle eastern looks of the tallarn raiders

While they look middle eastern they don’t have very middle eastern like culture

[plush mason]

what do they look like?

[rose thorn]

https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/warhammer40k/images/c/c0/TallarnDesertRaiderMal'harof.PNG/revision/latest?cb=20171017200644

Their lore is kinda just, sad

But i like their battle style as they mostly focus on guerrilla warfare tatics and fast hard hitting tanks and sentinels

[plush mason]

oh those are the desert raiders

[rose thorn]

Yeah

I love the middle eastern aesthetic so much

In basically everything

[plush mason]

are these a special battalion of the raiders?

[scenic bolt]

theyre a separate regiment

[rose thorn]

no they are their own thing

the basically were animal control for a rich guy's zoo

which had the most dangerous animals in the galaxy

turns out that skill translate pretty well to killing tyranids

They do it purely for the money and their absolute hatred for tryanids

[meager gale]

winter fire warrior by hector martinez

[proper helm]

oh fuck yeah

[brittle nebula]

Tau Xenos detected… activating melee protocols…

[proper helm]

yeah with the new edition that ain't gonna always work

[brittle nebula]

Query, new addition?

[proper helm]

The Etherial Aun'Shi got added. He's got a goddamn 2+ Weapon Skill

and these

Aun’Shi’s close combat attacks have AP -2.
Re-roll failed invulnerable saves for Aun’Shi.```

[atomic pelican]

Aun'Shi is a absolute gigachad now?

Pog

[proper helm]

Also there's some silly shit you can do with their suits I think

[atomic pelican]

Yeee

Melee commander is real now

[brittle nebula]

Remark, bring a titan… warlord class = can’t block that you filthy casual

[proper helm]

That's like bringing a nuke to a gunfight

you just blew up whatever you were fighting over and made the whole thing pointless

[brittle nebula]

Correction warlord class = overboard

Warhound should be fine

[atomic pelican]

You say that but

@proper helm what is aun'shi's invuln?

[proper helm]

That's what the actual guns are for

4+

[atomic pelican]

He could likely fight a titan to a stanfstill

YEAH

He could

In melee

[proper helm]

wounding on 5+

not terrible

[atomic pelican]

Esp with rerolls

4++ with reroll saves

[brittle nebula]

Calculating… error… doesn’t compute

[proper helm]

funni

Just get Aun'Shi into melee and tie up the warhound with the invuln reroll

[brittle nebula]

Calculating… Warbringer titan = versatile capable of equipping melee weapons

[proper helm]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XDQHlfYc7oc

[plush mason]

wtf did the first order put turbo lasers on the back as well?

the damn things already had 4 of them

[proper helm]

More dakka

[brittle nebula]

Mega caliber 6… calculating… can’t withstand power of emperor class main cannon

They have many… emperor class only needs one… non can withstand the will of the Omissiah

[muted shore]

Invuln rerolls? throw a nightbringer at it, call it a day

[plush mason]

wtf does the dark mechanicus even do in the current setting?

[brittle nebula]

Calculating… don’t know I may be a rogue tech priest… but I’m not apart of that faction

[plush mason]

wait i thought you where a logic engine

..........

we may be dealing with an A.I. here

[brittle nebula]

It’s not my fault… well it is my fault I’m… metaphorically under a rock… being in a unknown system has some pros and cons

I haven’t been in the Imperium in… 1,000 years

Calculating new subjects… maintenance and upgrades for… communications array

[final oxide]

I now have your IP address

All your toasters will be mine soon

1000 years of hiding and you just enter an unprotected system

[brittle nebula]

Calculating… new flight vector… calculating new system charts… jump in 3

2

1

Warping…

…communications terminated…

[final oxide]

My daemon friend is tracking you

😎

keep your gellar fields strong

[brittle nebula]

…communications reestablished…
New system… found scanning system… unpopulated… clear… activating all research systems and communications array extending

[novel fulcrum]

had a friend's only war campaign in which one of the supporting cast so to speak was a magos that had been living on an imperial world convinced to secede by the tau for hundreds of years, ended up portraying 'em as someone with two different personalities, the face that integrates with the people, and the backbone that keeps the mechanicus' work alive there

suffice to say, the deeper, mechanicus backbone precepts weren't very happy with us asking too many questions, until we became essential to their plans

[signal hill]

I hate the Design of those things...almost as much as that stupid 'mega' class Star Destroyer

[vast frigate]

i still love the idea that titans are on size with jaegers

gipsy danger alone is taller than an imperator, at 78m

[storm jungle]

We made a chart together here regarding this awhile back

Its a bit funny

[vast frigate]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/329719332517052426/945644416545214514/unknown.png

: )

[shadow plover]

different sources say different things about Imperator height

[vast frigate]

gipsy danger alone, one of the shorter jaegers, is taller than an imperator

at many variants of the lore

Imagine the imperium fielding this typa stuff against the t'au

orks would sob in happyness

[storm jungle]

Yep. Basically in the end people tend to REALLY wank titan sizes

[vast frigate]

they do

[storm jungle]

Gypsy could just push over half of these

[vast frigate]

writers going ''THE IMPERATOR STOOD OVER 300m TALL, ITS HORNS BLARING''

chief, besides it being fiction

no

[shadow plover]

most art makes them also look larger

[storm jungle]

Lmfao yeah

the guy in charge of that basically said his word is law at one point

and to tell the artists to knock it off

[vast frigate]

i have the TITAN comic book in hardback

and even there the titans are ON Size

mainly cause the warmachine (not the franchise) lore dude was directly involved

[final oxide]

Lol, it says they can hire Blood Axes Orks as mercenaries

we need more Imperial Orks

[vast frigate]

imagine

instead of ''Boat, engaged''

[final oxide]

and Imperial officers giving orders in Ork slang

[vast frigate]

we get

''Imperator, engaged''

[storm jungle]

Lmao if only

[vast frigate]

whack a broadside flat into the floor with an imperator

[storm jungle]

Pacific Rim is like the only movie in existence to give giant walker machines weight

https://tenor.com/view/gipsy-danger-walk-in-the-rain-jaeger-pacific-rim-gif-16632271

[final oxide]

How would Orks react fighting together with Imperator

[vast frigate]

and then part 2 came around

[storm jungle]

god

power rangers LETS GOOO

[vast frigate]

i think the best part of 1 is cherno

They really show the weight there

[final oxide]

Imagine how pissed CSMs would be seeing humans fighting together with Blood Axes against them

Do they have a special Ork teeth reserve

just in case

[vast frigate]

https://youtu.be/gOha8xh-Ha8?t=88

[final oxide]

Cherno is based

[storm jungle]

Walking chernobyl reactor boi ❤️

[shadow plover]

this is the only titan scale chart you need

[vast frigate]

probably scrap

[final oxide]

SHIT

[vast frigate]

YES

[final oxide]

I was about to make dat joke

[storm jungle]

Gonna be borrowing this

[vast frigate]

But gonna be honest

[final oxide]

curse you, you Elfin witch 😠

[vast frigate]

one direct rail shot to chernos upper dome and its probably finished

[shadow plover]

oi I stole it from the internet with me own hands

[final oxide]

stealing my jokes!

[vast frigate]

OIOIOI WOTSALLDISDEN?

[final oxide]

Special Imperial subfaction - Ork mercenaries

with human gubbinz

[vast frigate]

ive been looking at making Upright knights

[final oxide]

and if you run out of teeth they will attack you

[vast frigate]

its harder than you think without third party bits

imagine if the imperium had half-decent mech construction man

dont get me wrong, i love Knights

but any form of upright battle unit would be pog

Even the T'au do sticc legs

[crisp heath]

the game is dead

no updates

[cerulean wagon]

interesting lore

[barren tapir]

But wrong lore nonetheless

[marsh grail]

Now maybe I’m just oblivious but why doesn’t it seem like Horus’s space marines are significant anymore? In fact I had to look on the wiki just now to even know they are the Luna Wolves.

Otherwise I’d have to say the word bearers or eaters are most infamous.

[atomic pelican]

Like for CSM warbands?

I think Black Legion is probably the most known one

[marsh grail]

So then it is just me.

Ok

[storm jungle]

The Black Legion are the posterboys for CSM

they are pretty prevalent

Its more that they changed their name like 3 times in lore, so it gets a bit mixed

[marsh grail]

Oh ok

[rose thorn]

They are kinda lame tbh

[rose thorn]

I believe only the loyal members of the sons of Horus still use Luna wolves, but there’s only like 10 Luna wolves left and most of them are black shields

If even 10

I know there was a pretty badass one that vibes on terra

He might have died thought.

[errant mauve]

Pretty all the Luna Wolves are dead save 1 that was mentioned in the 7th CSM codex as of m41

The Sons of Horus as a legion died with Horus.

[cerulean wagon]

the survivors are scattered to other chapters ye

mostly grey knights

a fate worse than death

[errant mauve]

Black Legion suffers from the fact that Red Corsairs do their gimmick but way better (and they're also pirates so thats a bonus).

[plush mason]

they also suffer from having abaddon as their leader lol

[storm jungle]

Chaos suffers from having GW as their writers

[peak hamlet]

What is the black legion gimmick tho? The only things i know about them is that they are the strongest chaos force, the successors of horus bois and that they have a sick color scheme

[frosty cobalt]

its a warband, ,so it recruits from all legions/chapters

[peak hamlet]

But dont most all other chaos warbands do that? Like they take any marine they can get hands on

[frosty cobalt]

fair, but a lot of them are very legion specific

[peak hamlet]

Yee but like their legion specific stuff kinda just gets transferred to the new recruits

And i have no fucking idea what the black legion does besides having black armor

[errant mauve]

They're gimmick is that they're made up of all who wish to join, fighting directly of their own wills against the Imperium, serving no puppet master from the warp nor the daemon primarchs attached to their strings.

[atomic pelican]

Yee I actually kinda like them

Abby too

Hes no Archaon but still

I might paint the CSM KT as Black legion but idk how to make flat black look good rlly

[errant mauve]

Abaddon is very much trying to represent the will to power that ADB likes to really wank

But like

Huron is just way better at it?

[plush mason]

tbh abaddon isnt a bad character he is just kinda lame for a warmaster

[peak hamlet]

Fair i guess, still dont see much of a difference to other warbands

[errant mauve]

You either gotta do some chipping or highlight in a nice bright blue or grey if you don't like the look of a pure-ish black (I'm assuming no airbrush)

[errant mauve]

I'm gonna be real, if you look at any legion hard enough they have much of a difference to other warbands, or any other faction with their subfactions.

[peak hamlet]

Or u go for the eavy metal approach and dish out some sick edge highlights

(Pls do)

(Pretty please)

[errant mauve]

Black Legion's gimmick is that they're a large, unified force taking in any and all, and that they have no dedication to the dark gods as a basis. AKA something Red Corsairs do better.

[peak hamlet]

No i mean like, word bearers ofc are this demon summoning thingy, death guard is nurgle, red corsairs are space pirates, night lords have their terror/fear thingy going on but black legion doesnt really have anything that sets them apart besides numbers and the fact that they are pretty much the chaos og's

[errant mauve]

Many warbands do daemon summoning, there are a ton of nurgle warbands, almost all CSM warbands are piratical in some form, terror tactics are common amongst CSM and SM, etc

If we boil it down

Anything can be said to be without a gimmick.

[plush mason]

arent they just the sons of horus renamed?

[errant mauve]

Not exactly.

[peak hamlet]

Oh yee but the "anybody can join" thing is something all chaos warbands do

[errant mauve]

But so is like

Daemon summoning

It's just that BL are the ones with that on the forefront

much like how WB are on the forefront for daemon summoning

I think you're talking about an Aesthetic

And you're right that BL doesn't have a strong aesthetic compared to pretty much any other legion

[peak hamlet]

No faction focuses as heavy on the demon summoning part as the word bearers do, there prolly are even tons of warbands that dont engage with demons at all since demons tend to attack anybody

[errant mauve]

Just like how no faction focuses on the no gods, no child kings; confederation of individual warriors; or anti-primarch + chaos gods; and goal oriented focus as much as the Black Legion?

It's the exact same line of logic.

There are tons of Legions and their subsidiary warbands that won't accept individuals without certain requirements.

[peak hamlet]

Most factions dont align with any god, tf u mean with child kings (serious concern), the other stuff kinda fits into the first sentence as well

[errant mauve]

IE DG and the Mark of Nurgle

EC slaanesh

etc etc

[peak hamlet]

Sure but like red corsairs ->??? iron warriors ->??? nightlords ->??? ect ect

[errant mauve]

Name 3 warbands off the top of your head in 20 seconds other than BL and RC that are actively taking the stance against chaos.

[peak hamlet]

Also black legion does have ppl who heavily support gods and chaos in general

Like tons of sorcerers, his dedicated khorne berzerkers/plaguemarines/noisemarines/thousand sons warbands

[errant mauve]

But the point is that

Black Legion's goal does not serve any 1 chaos god, nor any of them as a whole

The Black Legion is Abaddon's to command

[peak hamlet]

Never really saw them as anti chaos tbh, the "only serve their biggest top lord" kinda applies to other factions too (red corsairs for example)

[errant mauve]

Iron Warriors
Perturabo is a daemon primarch serving Chaos
The Largest IW warbands (Pact of Blood, 27th Grand Battalion, Barban Falk's Dreadfleet) all worship Chaos (Undivided, Khorne, Khorne)
Obliterator Virus came to existence from a marine getting possessed by a Daemon, made after Pert and Morty worked with Nurgle

Night Lords
Largest Night Lords Warband is dedicated to a Daemon Prince of Khorne (The Painted Count)
Host the Largest amount of the Raptor Host and Warptalons
Talos is quite literally written as an exception to rule

[peak hamlet]

Yes but the point was not dedicated to any god in particular

[errant mauve]

I've said a few times already in that they're anti-chaos in the sense that they don't serve the will of the gods, the Black Legion ultimately bend to the will and whims and Abaddon, and the Red Corsairs to Huron. Both are not minions of the gods directly, not least Abaddon, who outright refuses the position, and pursue goals directly of their own.

[peak hamlet]

Ok but whose faction leader (besides the ones that are serving chaos gods (minus the thousand sons kinda?)) are actively following the gods wills?

[errant mauve]

All of them?

With the exception of maybe Perturabo (mainly due to a lack of clear lore), the other Legions serve the goals of the gods, and many of their splinter warbands either serve the gods outright or the will of their primarchs. The Black Legion, of the Legions, is unique in that they're a unified, unfractured legion that does not ultimately serve any of the gods in their end goals, even if they line up sometimes.

Why do you think the traitor primarchs are referred to as "Slaves to Darkness"?

[atomic pelican]

Yee Abaddon has the same schtick that Archaon does, serving their own purposes. + their legions followjng them rather than the gods

[errant mauve]

Fuck, Mortarion's whole character is that he's a mopey emo teenager that doesn't want to serve Nurgle but he has to

[peak hamlet]

Thats not one, i need examples

[vapid tiger]

retcon space marines out but not the csm

[peak hamlet]

How should csm exist without sm? 🧐

Wait evil big e who was chaos all along

[vapid tiger]

chaos warriors in space with power armor, ez

It's what csm already are

And why they're better than loyalists

[peak hamlet]

😩

[storm jungle]

I always loved chaos warriors

but then im like

"Chaos marines got GUNS."

thus 40k is more based

[peak hamlet]

Correct

[storm jungle]

🧠

[peak hamlet]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/710114662582321212/945476096239996928/IMG_9259.jpg

Can anybody confirm?

Not too much into sm lore

[vapid tiger]

Yeah just retcon the loyalists out and give imperial guard some power armored space operating specialists instead to fill the void

You have thus improved 40k by 99.9999999%

Just say the csm are chaos enhanced humans who got their power armor from the dark mechanicus

[rose thorn]

Yea, also I need to do my red corsairs detachment for those beautiful beautiful CP points, they are so good especially for EC noise marine army

[vapid tiger]

literally space chaos warriors

[rose thorn]

And alpha legion too

[vapid tiger]

no more hh novels = good

[peak hamlet]

More like let big e die, throw the imperium into a galactic civil war and split the imperium up into many small empires that fight on their own for survival

[vapid tiger]

that would be based as well but like

space marines are boring

[errant mauve]

Magnus the Red during the siege of Terra
Magnus during the Invasion of the Stygius Sector
Mortarion during the entirety of the Plague Wars
Mortarion during the War of Rust of Iron
Morty literally locking himself away from the materium for 10k years to serve Nurgle directly in the great game
Perturabo during the 8th Black Crusade
Perturabo during the 10th Black Crusade
Perturabo during the Invasion of Toil
Fulgrim during the 10th Black Crusade
Fulgrim during the 12th Black Crusade
Fulgrim during the 13th Black Crusade
Fulgrim during the Legion Wars
Angron during the 1st war for Armageddon
Angron during the Legion Wars
Angron during the 12th Black Crusade

I could keep going

but I hope this gets the point across

[storm jungle]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/923988648620339220/927905933772865636/Horus-Heresy-Boogalo.mp4

[peak hamlet]

🤨

[errant mauve]

Which faction leaders are following the gods (except the ones who follow the gods)

bruh

[storm jungle]

Im gonna kill you both

so this madness stops

[errant mauve]

Even then, Perturabo and Lorgar are both undivided primarchs

[peak hamlet]

?

[errant mauve]

?

What do you want, I'm so confused

[peak hamlet]

Bruh majo think

[errant mauve]

Show me a single leader that follow's the gods' wills
Except for the ones who serve the gods

[peak hamlet]

Which 4 chaos factions dedicate themselves to one of the 4 gods?

Hint they even share their colors

[errant mauve]

Whats your point man?

If you want

non-legion warbands

that serve the gods

[peak hamlet]

You said pretty much any chaos warband follows the gods in one way or another, i asked for examples (besides the obvious 4 ones)

[errant mauve]

Purge - Nurgle
Scourge - Tzeentch
Crimson Slaughter - Khorne
Flawless Host - Slaanesh

Iron Warriors - Various warbands following various gods (as mentioned prior)

[plush mason]

lol

[peak hamlet]

Now thats what im talking about

[vapid tiger]

U know what

Fuck 40k

[errant mauve]

I literally mentioned that beffore though

[errant mauve]

^

[peak hamlet]

Various black legion warbands are following various gods too

[vapid tiger]

This now a warpstar server

[storm jungle]

lmfao

[errant mauve]

Name one.

[peak hamlet]

Hounds of abaddon for example

[errant mauve]

Now

explain how

that is relevant

to my point that

The ultimate leadership of the black legion

The ezekarion

Serves abaddon

not Chaos

[peak hamlet]

Smol black legion warband follows god >:c irrelevant
Smol iron warriors warband follows god >:) relevant

[errant mauve]

bobo

holy shit

Have you not been reading what I've been writing

[vapid tiger]

What the fuck are y'all even debating

[peak hamlet]

The iron warriors follow perturabo or their local chaos lord, not chaos as a whole

[errant mauve]

Alright bobo

tell me

Who does Perturabo serve

[peak hamlet]

That just really fucking depends on your definition of chaos as a whole

[errant mauve]

Perturabo directly serves the gods, literally submitting himself to the gods on Sebastus
Perturabo serves chaos directly

Abaddon has never submitted himself to the gods, it is one of his central characteristics and a key part of his character during the novel series
Abaddon does not serve chaos

🤯

[peak hamlet]

If abaddon woulnt serve chaos in one way or another he would have 0 sorcerers, 0 demons ect

Like bro hes the main chaos faction, if he doesnt follow chaos nobody does

[errant mauve]

Thats literally not the fluff though

Please

for the love of god

read the black legion series

[storm jungle]

FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK

[peak hamlet]

Ok so mayo pls. How does one serve chaos. Just tell me. Is it the goal to transform reality into warp? Is it to just kill ppl in the name of the gods? Is it to kill big e?

[storm jungle]

@peak hamlet

https://tenor.com/view/bart-simpson-strangle-gif-10314540

[final spruce]

Bobo

Chaos corruption

[peak hamlet]

Chaos corrupts, yes

[storm jungle]

We must eliminate him

someone hold him down

[final spruce]

Plus Chaos destroying the Materium would mean chaos killing itself

Unless they pull an End times and fuse the Materium and Immaterium itself

[peak hamlet]

Idk man, if that would fuck them over then they wouldnt keep doing that 24/7

[errant mauve]

Abaddon does not serve the gods, he never has. He wages war against the Imperium because he himself wants to see the Imperium destroyed. The gods support him because he ultimately is doing something they want, and have offered him their gifts and blessings hundreds of times, but Abaddon refuses everytime, choosing to at best keep Chaos at an arm's length from himself. Anyone can join the Black Legion, Chaos worshipper or not, but you bend to the will of Abaddon. Not a chaos god, not one of the daemon primarch puppets. Do what you want but you listen to Abaddon, who as mentioned prior, does NOT serve Chaos directly.

Once again if you want the source for this read the Black Legion novels

Its about the means, not the ends.

The Hounds of Abaddon worship Khorne, but they're called the Hounds of Abaddon for a reason. Abaddon tells them to jump, and they fucking jump.

[peak hamlet]

Ok sure, he doesnt. Some of his followers do but again, that wasnt the original argument. Your point was that "all" chaos factions serve the gods. I still dont see that

(Minus bl ofc)

[errant mauve]

No, my original point was on the gimmick of the Black Legion, which you for some reason do not accept despite it being emphasized in the canon. I made, admittedly, an overgeneralization for a point (chaos warbands) because it did not relate to the original point, and you've now moved goalposts.

[vapid tiger]

Holy shit

he's typing

[peak hamlet]

The gimmick of the black legion is that everybody can join and that they follow abaddon, not the gods. My point was that that isnt a thing unique to them

[errant mauve]

Ok? But daemonlogy also isn't unique to WB?

Siege Warfare and Daemon Engines isn't unique to IW?

Melee isn't unique to WE?

[peak hamlet]

God mayo

So

[storm jungle]

WHAT IS THIS ARGUMENT

[errant mauve]

Being fat and smelly isn't unique to DG (it is quite common amongst Loyalist Space Marine fans)

[storm jungle]

Mayo's pretty much sensibly spelling out everything

whats the point in arguing against all that

[vapid tiger]

I'm not even sure who is arguing what

[peak hamlet]

The black legion does have those aspects you named. However! those arent nearly as strong as the summoning demons aspect of the word bearers, the terror aspect of the night lords ect. Sure they do appear on other warbands but not nearly as often as the black legion traits you named

[final spruce]

https://tenor.com/view/kill-steve-harvey-family-feud-yes-kill-gif-22934983

[errant mauve]

The OG legions are distinct because they set those gimmicks first. There are dozens of named Warbands who fulfill the gimmick just as well as the OG legions, Crimson Slaughter, Khornate Warband, does Siege Warfare and Daemon Engines just as much as the Iron Warriors, the Lords of Silence do terror warfare way better than any NL and worship nurgle better than the DG, etc.

[peak hamlet]

"""Sure they do appear on other warbands but not nearly as often as the black legion traits you named"""

[errant mauve]

Why do people know more about the the DG than the LoS? Why do people know more about the IW than the CS? Because they came first, set the trend, and are best known for it

Guess what the Black Legion does?

Also, if we're by just, level of appearance

WE have no gimmick.

They just melee.

That's their deal.

[peak hamlet]

The anybody can join thing is almost universal to every single warband, the "our leader doesnt bow to the gods" is rarer admittedly but still a thing

[plush mason]

what is even going on rn?

[storm jungle]

https://tenor.com/view/warhammer-warhammer-fantasy-total-war-warhammer-handgunners-gif-16598419

[final spruce]

https://tenor.com/view/bardin-gorreksson-vermintide2-warhammer-dwarf-slayer-gif-22593944

[peak hamlet]

Ok not sure how to word it but

?

[storm jungle]

CHAOS MARINES

ARE CHAOS MARINES

[peak hamlet]

Like their scheme?

[storm jungle]

MOVE ALONG

[plush mason]

lol

[peak hamlet]

Their decoration ect

[plush mason]

https://tenor.com/view/angry-warrior-chaos-blood-gif-13932012

[final spruce]

I think the Darktide brainrot finally infected Bobo

There is only one solution

https://tenor.com/view/drake-morphin-gun-shoot-weapon-gif-13537279

[peak hamlet]

Night lords, world eaters, tsons ect have much more of a clear appearance thingy than black legion, even if all of them would be painted grey you could still make them out much more easily than the black legion

[plush mason]

what is even being argued at this point?

[errant mauve]

What warband is this.

[final spruce]

Also Bobo

https://cdn.kapwing.com/final_6212ddc6b0fb2500f16c8993_579907.gif

[plush mason]

lol

[peak hamlet]

I was literally arguing against this point

WE gimmick is khorne iconography and those weird khorne looking helmets

[plush mason]

they serve khorne so there isnt much to build on for a gimmick beyond rage blood and skulls

[rose thorn]

Wait what space marines don’t have bones?

[errant mauve]

What warband is this.

[final spruce]

Nope no bones, only Jelly

[peak hamlet]

Mayo "world eaters have no gimmick" was the point

What is your intention in posting these?

[rose thorn]

That’s

Fucking stupid actually, they are like what’s his name from Futurama

What is the point of them having no bones

[vapid tiger]

They have bones you idiots stop falling for the trolling

[final spruce]

[peak hamlet]

Nooo stop dont tell em

[plush mason]

LOL

[rose thorn]

Oh

[errant mauve]

I'm pointing out that Khorne Iconography is not endemic to WE, nor Nurgle Iconography to DG, nor Tzeentch to Tsons, and so on. They are endmic to the gods themselves. Thus, any warband can have those aesthetics, and it cannot be argued as a unique gimmick to WE by the definition you set.

The importance of a gimmick are the means, not the ends.

WE have a gimmick not because of the end result, but how they got there.

Same with IW

EC

TS

DG

and BL

[final spruce]

https://tenor.com/view/discord-discord-drama-drama-argument-political-gif-24419538

[rose thorn]

Khrone are amazing melee and great anti pyker

[errant mauve]

Correct.

But that is not endemic to WE, does that mean they are without a gimmick?

[peak hamlet]

Sure, khornite warbands do look similar if you ignore the scheme but now look at the black legion. Khornite warbands are looking alike and so are nurgle, tzeentch and slannesh ones. Black legion however looks like any single other one if we go by that

Night lords, iron warriors and some others have strong "themes" going on for example but the black legion doesnt

[errant mauve]

^?

I've mentioned this already

and you know why>?

[rose thorn]

Black legion’s cosmetic gimmick is they have no gimmick

[errant mauve]

It's because the Black Legion aesthetic is the Chaos Space Marine aesthetic. The models are based on how the modellers (and jes goodwin) think the Black Legion look.

[peak hamlet]

Why are you arguing about it then? If world eathers have no gimmick according to you, then the black legion doesnt either. World eaters have a much stronger theme

[errant mauve]

No, I think WE have a gimmick, I was using your line of logic to show how it can used to assert any god specific legion also has no gimmick.

[storm jungle]

Oh m god

is this still going

@peak hamlet STOP.

😩

[rose thorn]

World eaters do kinda have a gimmick

But khrone is such a well known chaos god that it kinda infects all of the CSM models

[storm jungle]

And no it doesnt

WE have an aesthetic

its just that they got no minis

aside from those ancient ones

lmao

[rose thorn]

Yeah

[storm jungle]

vampire teeth lookin ass 😩

[peak hamlet]

When did i say chaos warbands aligned to gods have no gimmick? Now you are making shit up

[errant mauve]

Bobo

you are getting reading comp diff'd

I'm not saying you are

[vapid tiger]

AAAAAAAA

[errant mauve]

I'm saying if we apply your line of logic in justifying BL being gimmickless to any Cult Legion, we can say they have no gimmick either.

[rose thorn]

Emperors children make me so fucking sad. I love them so much but you have to either buy the over priced noise marine upgrade kit or buy third party parts

[vapid tiger]

Shifting the topic

look at the cool eldar art

look

[rose thorn]

;-; why GW, why must you curse us to spend 15 dollars for 2 heads a gun and a doom siren

Or 15 dollars for a handful of sonic guns and nothing else

[errant mauve]

This is not a hard concept to grasp.

The gimmick of the Black legion is that:

1. Aesthetically, they are Chaos Space Marines at the purest. Little influence from specific gods affect the models, and mutation is at a minimum.
2. Mechanically, they serve Abaddon, even if they worship Chaos, and thus focus on running Abaddon or big squads of characters.
3. From a lore perspective, they are unique in that their leader, Abaddon, actively rejects Chaos, and they are a totally unified Legion serving not a god, or primarch, but rather one of them, an Astartes, accepting all and any.

[errant mauve]

That is excellent AoK art.

[atomic pelican]

Holy fuck a depiction of a CW that isnt the Banana fleet

Finally

[peak hamlet]

M8 my point the entire fucking time was that the amount of warbands similar to black legion is incredibly high compared to warbands dedicated to one of the 4 gods. And even if we ignore the gods, stuff like the night lords or the other non god aligned original chaos legions have a strong aestetic/theme going on. The amount of warbands similar to the night lords is much smaller than the amount of warbands similar to the black legion

[errant mauve]

Banana fleet
huh?

[atomic pelican]

Lemme find it

[vapid tiger]

The big glowy yellow one

The art

[rose thorn]

Is it just me or in older art craft worlds always looked kinda small

[peak hamlet]

A lot better than the old craftworld depictions for sure

[atomic pelican]

Banana

[rose thorn]

I know it’s supposed to be fucking huge

But it still seems small

[peak hamlet]

The new one or the one onut posted?

[rose thorn]

The older art

[peak hamlet]

Oh yee thats cuz its far away lol, things that are close always look bigger (i think)

[atomic pelican]

I believe the largest craftworlds are abt planetoid size

Like Iyanden iirc

[peak hamlet]

Also like place a space marine next to a human and he looks big, place him next to an titan and he looks small

[peak hamlet]

Werent they like even bigger?

On average at least

[errant mauve]

Bobo, you're looking at the ends again. This whole time I've said again and again the gimmick of the original legion-warbands are the means of how they got there, and there is no warband like the Black Legion in that regard. As I've also mentioned again and again, if we examine it through the ends - the end effect of what the legions do, and not the means - how they got there, why they do it, and how they do it, very little can be identified as unique in Chaos, because there are only so many unique ends that can be achieved, but an infinitely sprawly number of means.

I'm dropping the argument here, if you still don't agree either go read the Black Legion series or the Abaddon short stories, because I can't think of another way of getting it through.

[errant mauve]

Oh

the death dildo

[peak hamlet]

Or im mixing up stuff rn but i always thought they were multiple times the size of the earth

[storm jungle]

Im tired

[atomic pelican]

Nahh

[storm jungle]

of

art

being

reused

AAAA

[errant mauve]

Craftworlds are mega-continent sized

Aren't they

[storm jungle]

Mostly yeah

they got "world" in their name for a reason

[atomic pelican]

Yee

[errant mauve]

Clearly they have world in their name because they serve as video game levels for Marines to rampage through smh

[storm jungle]

😩

[errant mauve]

Super Marneus Bros world 1-1: Iyanden

[storm jungle]

DSFFDSK

god

[errant mauve]

Stomp on the Eldar civilians to earn points!

[storm jungle]

💀

[final spruce]

You also forgot nids

[errant mauve]

didn't like

Prince Yriel

[final spruce]

That Ma'lantai dude has one of the biggest KDA

[errant mauve]

btfo some nids

[peak hamlet]

"the gimmick of the original legion-warbands are the means of how they got there" fundamental disagree. Dont think we had the same thing in mind the entire time

[storm jungle]

He did yeah

Iyanden was saved from a swarm thanks to him

[atomic pelican]

Maugan Ra and Yriel solidarity

[storm jungle]

Funnier in retrospective since he was exiled from Iyanden beforehand

[peak hamlet]

Eh its fine imo. Sure i would love some more new stuff but i really love some of the old art so i dont mind seeing it at all

[storm jungle]

It gets tiring seeing the same fucking craftworld art

lmao

[atomic pelican]

Isnt the cw new?

Ive never seen it

[storm jungle]

Oh yeah for once

the undershot one is new yep

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/745324840097153167/945800251397267466/FMIQWcSXEAAuQ3D.jpeg

[final spruce]

So are the two Avatar arts

One where he bullies a keeper

The other Dili posted

[storm jungle]

the one where he has a chair yeah

https://preview.redd.it/yrzkgedop7j81.png?width=640&crop=smart&auto=webp&s=c7a0ffbdfd6ab45597260afecfd493201b4e1678

[final spruce]

https://tenor.com/view/rock-one-eyebrow-raised-rock-staring-the-rock-gif-22113367

[storm jungle]

[peak hamlet]

Like this for exampl i dont mid at all, reuse it as often as possible pls

[storm jungle]

I'd still like some new art plox

[peak hamlet]

Typing ability has left my hands

[storm jungle]

Whos fingers do I gotta crack open

🔨

[peak hamlet]

Oh sure, new stuff always is nice but as said, keep some of the cool old sstuff plssss

[final spruce]

I literally remember that art from the 4th edition codex

5 editions onwards and its stillr ecycled

[peak hamlet]

Also the one where they gun down nids, cant find it atm

[final spruce]

I know GW mainly sells plastic but that's another level of green recycling rn

[storm jungle]

Yeah like i remember 9th edition's dark eldar codex

it only had like 3 new artwork lmao

[final spruce]

That shit bad

[storm jungle]

I kinda miss when every new codex had brand new pictures to go with it

but its fine i guess

[peak hamlet]

I think the one i saw the most often so far was this chaos thingy that got cropped and cut off at different points

[final spruce]

Well seeing how you don't really like the new art unless its hot women, I can see why Dilara

[peak hamlet]

This fucking thing

[errant mauve]

Kino Art

[peak hamlet]

Damn

[storm jungle]

Thats another oldie yeah I love it

[errant mauve]

Its not that old >:(

It's from 5th

[storm jungle]

owned

[errant mauve]

Th-thats young

https://tenor.com/view/copium-attack-on-titan-thunder-spear-titanfolk-gif-21192395

[storm jungle]

https://tenor.com/view/jetstream-sam-true-metal-gear-rising-gif-24875505

[peak hamlet]

I fucking wont, im gonna buy it and then brun it just to anger you

(Also i may or may not have read the german version ages ago)

[errant mauve]

Bobo polluting the planet

typical of the average talon of horus not-reader

[peak hamlet]

That was the one where they fucked over horus clone at the end right?

[errant mauve]

No I believe that's Black Legion

[peak hamlet]

And yeah major black library moment, they cant agree on shit. I loved ahrimans depiction in his books but the codexes and everything just make an entirely different character out of him

[errant mauve]

Also

Codex Abaddon is just Talon of Horus Abby

since ADB and McNeil write the Chaos Codices

[peak hamlet]

Yeah no, im 100% certain i didnt read that one, thats for sure

[errant mauve]

Oh yeah Clonerus was ToH

[peak hamlet]

https://www.reddit.com/r/40kLore/comments/7wfy7q/book_excerptthe_talon_of_horus_abaddon_faces/

Found i

Oh

Yea

Fair

[errant mauve]

But ToH ending was Abby vs Siggi

[peak hamlet]

Siggi?

[errant mauve]

Sigismund

the cringe templar 🤮

[peak hamlet]

Major confusion

[atomic pelican]

This + the 2e eldar codex art are my faves

[barren tapir]

The first black crusade

[peak hamlet]

U mean black leagion mayhaps?

[errant mauve]

Oh yeah I mixed the two around

woops

lemme edit my meme

ez

Talon of Horus was the one with Bile

Mixed up the names kek

[peak hamlet]

Man i really can see how someppl like old art but the "HERE HAVE COLOR IN YOUR FACE" approach some of the older stuff really isnt my taste

[peak hamlet]

Fair 😔

Black/white art my beloved

Wait is it even called that

[errant mauve]

SOUL

[peak hamlet]

Did i confuse ppl all the time?

FUCK ITS GREYSCALE

[errant mauve]

Bobo spreading misinformation and mischeif

[atomic pelican]

It's like, Eldar's entire schtick

Being super colorful

The aspect rainbow

[errant mauve]

Eldar are allies

[atomic pelican]

yes

[errant mauve]

Technically ig that makes SM and CSM also allies?

Since they have a real rainbow of colour schemes too

[atomic pelican]

tru

Tho I will say

there is one TRUE trans ally

tzeentch

the 'base' color scheme for Lords of change is trans flag colors

[errant mauve]

If eradicating tzeentchians means the Trans community lose one ally

I must apologize to the Trans community

[atomic pelican]

FUHN

[peak hamlet]

Tbf mean all factions pretty much have all colors represented in one way or another

[errant mauve]

https://tenor.com/view/skullcrushers-of-khorne-warhammer-fantasy-khorne-skullcrushers-chaos-juggernaut-gif-22108162

[peak hamlet]

Love instead of war in 40k if everybody is allied tho?

[errant mauve]

No

I refuse to ally with Tzeentcucks

[peak hamlet]

Cringe

Unbased

[errant mauve]

So be it

[peak hamlet]

Join your local birdmen

[edgy robin]

the best cavalry

[errant mauve]

(please ignore my large Mark of Tzeentch contingent in my IW)

[atomic pelican]

I just like the magic phase

and also funny little pink bubblegum men

[peak hamlet]

???

The fuck

Explain pls?

[atomic pelican]

omg bobo literally speaks nazi??!?!?

[errant mauve]

https://tenor.com/view/dies-of-death-gif-23505693

[peak hamlet]

Ur literally american

Kinda cringe ngl

[errant mauve]

U literally like France

Kinda cringe ngl

[barren tapir]

https://tenor.com/view/popcorns-crackhead-eating-popcorn-food-junk-gif-14546221

[cunning wigeon]

Now is not the time for European politics

we can all agree the french suck and just move along

[peak hamlet]

Thats literally racist m8

Like fr fr

[barren tapir]

Must say that these exchanges are quite entertaining

[atomic pelican]

fr???

like

france?!?!

[peak hamlet]

Like fr fr

I would literally sign any contract to fuse france and germany into a single country without hesitation

[errant mauve]

wtf fr = france????

[peak hamlet]

Even if that means we get paris

[errant mauve]

never using this abbreviation again

[atomic pelican]

bobo repeats the invasion of france(he's german he can't help it)

[cunning wigeon]

nah germans are chill

[errant mauve]

German
Likes talking about tanks
Obsessed with "fusing" France and Germany?

Curious

[barren tapir]

Interesting, can you expand on this?

[cunning wigeon]

the french however, they need to pronounce the letters in their words

none of this leaving out the last letter bullshit

[peak hamlet]

Bro what

[cunning wigeon]

german at least has strict rules for the way you speak it

[atomic pelican]

@peak hamlet Did you at any point live in argentina

[peak hamlet]

"Likes talking about tanks" what

[cunning wigeon]

french they couldnt care less

[peak hamlet]

14th to 16th century armour =/= tanks

Mayo i am literally offended rn

[final spruce]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/672135044692836353.gif?size=96&quality=lossless

[cunning wigeon]

knights where simply medieval tanks

didnt you know

[peak hamlet]

No. I would just sign a contract like that

[errant mauve]

hahahahahaha se faire baiser

[peak hamlet]

😩

[errant mauve]

Sorry buddy you're a tank liker now

[peak hamlet]

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[barren tapir]

So like a federation, like an European Federation? I despise the name united states of europe btw

[errant mauve]

Just the rules innit

You are not cringe

[cunning wigeon]

Like my language is fucked but at least isn't entirely French

[errant mauve]

Imagine being French

could not be me

(I am not french)

[atomic pelican]

english was made far worse by the french influences

[cunning wigeon]

Truly

[peak hamlet]

No just like "its a country now". Franmany or smthn idk

[errant mauve]

I've only got some level of fluency in French because of school

[cunning wigeon]

Why use words like odour when smell and stink already existed in our vocabulary

[peak hamlet]

Mayo is french fr????

[errant mauve]

They should name it Mayo-land and put me in charge

[cunning wigeon]

Based

[atomic pelican]

they should name it jean land and put me in charge of you

[cunning wigeon]

Who would succeed the position after you?

[peak hamlet]

We will name it mayo land and lock you away in some random cave

[cunning wigeon]

Your answer affects how based this is