It's only because they think their teleportation technology works
#40k-lore-chat
clever kiln
vast frigate
they basically hollowed out a moon and built a GIANT waaagh field generator inside of it
peak hamlet
Ah ok figures 🙏
odd sparrow
orks at their highest levels of mek nonsense have inherited technology that are a good deal ahead of the other races
vast frigate
this allowed them to turn the moon into a teleporting battlestation with artillery on the surface
odd sparrow
Like large scale teleportation
peak hamlet
It's only because they think their teleportation technology works
Not really, no. Teleportation has been a thing in 40k since forever and is used by most factions
vast frigate
I mean, remember that the orks were the Krorks, who were in their part, a highly militarist society far technologically outspeeding the necrons and eldar, but they couldnt keep up because FANCY PANCY SCHMANCY ELVES
odd sparrow
But yea like, generally orks don't have the i believe [reality shattering thing] can happen therefore it can happen! superpower
vast frigate
i should say on their path to outspeed eldar and necrons
odd sparrow
it's fun to meme about but nobody writes it like that
vast frigate
there needs to be a lot of shit that has happened before it actually goes that way
the amount of orks, even for orks, is immense
peak hamlet
But yea like, generally orks don't have the *i believe [reality shattering thing...
Yep exactly, alas fandom chooses to ignore that 😔
crisp heath
I just start covens and these eldar stuffs has had me eyeing ynnari
But I will keep True to my grotesques
vast frigate
i tend to explain it more as
The mekboys want to build... a plane
and the other orks see a plane and go
''Aye, das a plane''
but because they all in the back of their head go ''aye das a plane''... well, that makes it a plane
they dont actively want it, its knowing like how we know that when we look at a gun, itll probably shoot with munitions and a good interior
whereas the ork just sees a dakka, and he knows; its gonna dakka
its instinct like how we know how to walk and grab and sit and eat etcetera
they dont actively give a WANT mentally, they just see the big machine and the mek says itll work, and the orks see da mek make it work cause, zog it do be workin
it works by proxy, of the waaagh field
vast frigate
aye
genuinely i just stick with my local GW managers explanation
THE ORKS KNOW it works
so it works
they dont think about it
clever kiln
Exact how I've always thought about it
I wish the krork in taz's collection would break free, that would be interesting
vast frigate
Theyd be a fucking upgrade to the orks
clever kiln
Like major, could even see them mistaking him as Gork (or Mork)
Honestly could make a huge plot difference if everyone escaped from taz's vault. All races getting huge buffs
novel fulcrum
agreed, orks don't even give it a second thought
it's just supposed to work that way, it's the way it's always worked, and whaddaya know, it works
short solar
good evening
cursive hull
And I like the Night Lords.
Although, for Night Lords, I prefer the sorta power-fist with long nails look over the wolverine look.
meager gale
night lords ❤️
vast frigate
gnight lords
cursive hull
It still amuses me, and is why I like them, that the Night Lords could choose to be practicable.
They use terror tactics and rely on intimidation and small scale, spread out operations to keep the enemy guessing.
They dislike stand up fights and prefer marauding in the backline.
But they waste all that time killing civilians and intimidating people rather than be tactically sound and focus first on military targets.
(I also like them for the fact they hate one another just as much as they hate anyone else, to the point where the Legion is one in name only. They could be coherent, but they refuse to be so because that would be the worst thing conceivable to each and every one of them.)
errant mauve
This is also why they get folded every time they fight other SM
"Boo!"
"We literally fought on Mezoa together idiot"
cursive hull
Like, it becomes ultra clear that the Night Lords have literally no interest in being something that functions utterly flawlessly by itself.
They function best as part of a war plan with other people doing all the parts they don't want to do. Like back during the Crusades, or during some of the pushes from the Black Legion.
But without somebody to actually carry them, they fold like a house of cards.
And, yeah
Specializing in terror tactics makes their entire schtick fucking worthless against other Sm's
Which is another reason why I like them.
They suck hard at everything but what they really, really specialize in
But its so niche that it gets them into trouble
And all of it, is self imposed
They could be fucking scary because of how good they are at getting into the backline. If they focused on dealing as much damage to military infrastructure and garrisons as possible, and fought running battles against more powerful foes, they could easily be contenders in any Space Marine V Space Marine fight
But they just can't be arsed to do it
novel fulcrum
yeh, i will say that i enjoy the hyper-specialization, as opposed to groups that try to cover every base at once
plush mason
I love lighting claws
the old models where better than the new ones imo
cursive hull
Chaos lightening talons always seemed more aesthetically pleasing to me.
Where each finger is a blade
Rather than the blades being mounted on the wrists.
snow tundra
I prefer the wrist blades personally
cursive hull
Fair, and the setting does have both
errant mauve
30k LC and 40k LC are both cool to me
I really don't like the new primaris designs
so small
errant mauve
The Ghost Razors are my favourite
cursive hull
Ironically, I dislike using lighting claws on Termies. At least, on both hands.
Same reason why I dislike shields on terminators.
I feel better if my Termies have that storm bolter or twin-linked bolters or whatever the Chaos equiv is, I forget the name atm.
Combi-bolters?
cursive hull
Shrug But, yeah.
I want my big slow armored dudes to have the ability to shoot if I'm not where I wanna be with them yet.
Its fine if I have quick melee dudes like Assault Marines, Raptors, Warp Talons, etc, who can jump in, charge into cqc and spend as much time as possible right where they outta be
Also
errant mauve
For me
Termis can haver double melee if
- They are for zone mortalis
- They have a teleport homer and/or nuncio vox
- They are tartaros pattern
cursive hull
His face is what I imagine when I think about him getting a mountain dropped on him like in the books. "God damn it."
Also, yeah
Twin melee weapons is fine if they're in an enclosed space or can teleport directly where I want em to be
errant mauve
I guess a 5th one is if they're a body guard unit
like deathshroud
but they tend tro already fit one fo the previous reqs
cursive hull
Yeah.
shadow scaffold
https://twitter.com/WH40kbestof/status/1485756298440462338?t=qdN-yzFSou4t43Nn5db...
very nice art
cursive hull
If I'm putting terminators around somebody, they're usually a melee monster themselves.
cursive hull
TBH? I get it
errant mauve
They're my kryptonite
cursive hull
I'd have a Terminator Chaos Lord, no doubt.
snow tundra
Yeah but it looks cool
cursive hull
Its one of those power fantasies
Especially when it comes to a Lord, who functionally represents you on the table.
snow tundra
I may be alone in this, but I feel like since normal marines got their nice new shiny clean primaris armor, terminators should get something similar
cursive hull
Normal Primaris armor already lacks the pizazz or options for customization. I really hate to think of what a Primaris style termi suit would be like.
errant mauve
Terminators as a silhouette is simply too iconic
snow tundra
I'm not saying it has to be primaris style
I just want something new and more up to date
Terminators are old
cursive hull
Terminators as a silhouette is simply too iconic
This
errant mauve
We get new termis all the time
uin terms of sculpts
but if you mean indomitus
specifically
the latest non-character ones are in the Space Marine Heroes 2 mystery boxes
think these guys were 2016?
and I think the latest indomitus termi overall is Chaplain Tarentus
cursive hull
They really don't look that bad.
errant mauve
I love them
cursive hull
They're recognizably terminators
That's what you want out of em, and its what you get.
errant mauve
I have a bunch of them for conversions
snow tundra
think these guys were 2016?
Okay I like these
errant mauve
(recasters arre your friends, folks)
cursive hull
The guy with the missile launcher looks so fucking excited
snow tundra
But like generic assault termies are still pretty old
errant mauve
The latest terminator model overall was the UM praetor
man, good thing I don't play Ultras in 30k
I honestly think the assault terminators look fine
But I am old and I am groggy
And thus come from a place of bias
errant mauve
His model is really nice
I converted my blackshield reaver lord out of it
Back when he was a humble man with a more reasonable sized top knot
errant mauve
Yeah, I remember now.
You should check out the Forge World Character Series models if you haven't already carro
their armour is quite cool
cursive hull
I should.
peak hamlet
think these guys were 2016?
The best one is missing 😔
There
I got him in fact
Not sure what to do with him tho
errant mauve
Servo skull friend
peak hamlet
Guess ill paint him in random loyalist chapter colors and then cross out the chapter markings
peak hamlet
Servo skull friend
Ngl that was pretty much the only reason i bought him
peak hamlet
Ah i see :(
marsh grail
and I think the latest indomitus termi overall is Chaplain Tarentus
Are those CVS receipts?
chrome dragon
Back when he was a humble man with a more reasonable sized top knot
Why does it have arms
alpine ingot
Just thought about this the other day, depending on the book or audio drama it's a bit different but if Legionaries were often said to be taller then modern (pre-primaris) space marines. Wouldn't that mean that Primaris marines are the same height as legion era space marines?
barren tapir
Good question...
alpine ingot
at the very least that's my head cannon. Then there is also the thought that Primaris are a way of restoring some of the lost "bite" the Astartes has lost over the 10k years since the heresy. This is based on my listening of the Space Wolves audio drama collection and Bjorn making the observation that already the level of skill, speed and power were degrading a few hundred years after the scouring in his story.
cunning wigeon
So with the lore around what Corvus is now, are the primarchs just warp entities with mortal shells?
alpine ingot
they were always part warp part material flesh. Corvus just decided to yeet himself into his warp form to carry out vengeance against the traitor legions.
and as the meme goes, he's the reason Lorgar hasn't done shit for the last 10 thousand years and is still "meditating"
cunning wigeon
But it says on the wiki that all the warp exposure did was peal away the emperor's facade for the primarchs
steep rover
Guess ill paint him in random loyalist chapter colors and then cross out the cha...
Luckily these termies dont have any chapter markings so you can paint him anything you want 🙂
peak hamlet
Yeeep thats the main reason i bought him in the first place
potent swift
Been reading through TDK: Reign and 'Thuggish Mystic' is hands down the most dismissive description of the Emperor I have ever heard and I love it.
proper helm
"Thuggish Mystic" yeah that's perfect
alpine ingot
in Ruin Oltyx called the Emperor the "God Ape" or something along those lines
vapid tiger
That actually is neat that the necrons would hear about the emperor and just go
"Yeah that guy ain't shit lmao stupid alien"
plucky moth
Based
leaden bolt
That actually is neat that the necrons would hear about the emperor and just go
and if they would get off their asses and stop infighting, they would be right
storm jungle
Necrons kinda suffer from the fact that they're too OP 
You gotta write in too many reasons as to why they cant just kill half the Imperium.
Dementia usually works
serene jungle
terminator boomers?
novel fulcrum
dementia and honor mostly afaik, or perhaps more like a sense of duty by abstainence
nova meteor
splitting also
all dynasties are split from each other and not working together that much currently
storm jungle
Yeah those reasons are mostly acceptable.
nova meteor
besides some efforts from imotekh and szarekh trying to reunite them slowly i think
nova meteor
yeah
idk i like where necrons are right now
i wasn't interested in them but the infinite and the divine and the twice dead king really got me invested
storm jungle
Yep those are probably some of the best cron books in the last decade 🙏
nova meteor
i dont dare touching the others of fear of feeling underwhelmed haha
storm jungle
haha yeah that happens
so much so that I actually downloaded those two necron books for free just to read them but then just bought actual copies that I won't really touch but knew the author could use the support
always about the sales
nova meteor
yeah, i feel you, i got the audiobooks personally but i almost wanna get physical copies for the collection 😭
storm jungle
That last part is relatable 😩
well that and "Oh hey Dilara what are you reading during workshop class?"
Me: shows cover
"It's sci-fi stuff you wouldn't get it."
nova meteor
LOL
it's always funny to show the oddest covers and still manage to get someone invested afterwards
storm jungle
Lmao yeah its great, I even feel a great sense of pride when people lean to look at what I'm reading from the cover
"Hm I wonder what thats about..."
nova meteor
the HH covers are really good at selling the book i agree
storm jungle
They got a bit of that awkwardness with the first few ones
since like
i think its computer generated stuff? So looks kinda janky
but its still charming yeah
nova meteor
when i was 10 i couldn't tell, to me it just felt like omg big space boys fight that's so cool!!!
storm jungle
LMAO yeah now its like
"wow half of these helmets dont even exist"
because im a nerd 😩
nova meteor
i like to imagine they're some variations that actually existed but just never got much representation
nova meteor
the proportions on this guy
i finished fulgrim last, contemplating whether i wanna continue getting them in order or skip the less relevant ones
storm jungle
Skip the less relevant ones
HH is overhyped as shit but the only good ones are the Abnett ones mostly
also Know No Fear which is pretty infamous
nova meteor
i had a list i need to find it back
i think my objective is to skip as many as possible but without missing too many elements to get up to the siege of terra
storm jungle
Yeee like you really need to know only a few critical books which is thankfully not many
the Heresy suffers a lot from "we gotta pad this series out" its why you can entirely skip some stuff like 8 salamander books
nova meteor
i was considering going the prospero burns route but maybe i can skip even those and go to slaves to darkness or buried dagger directly
storm jungle
Yeee those arent much either unless you're a T.Sons fan
those novels also suffer a lot from "Magnus has to fall to chaos and we dont know how, just add some demon tricking everyone in there while he watches half his legion die while sulking in his pyramid."
💀
storm jungle
Yeeee
nova meteor
unless a miraculous necron book releases out of nowhere
i also got a couple of ciaphas cain books which i was quite pleasantly surprised by, after going in with the expectation of boring books about the goofiness of a coward commissar
storm jungle
Yeah Cain books sound silly on the surface but are really fun unless you just want to nitpick it apart
nova meteor
they also suffer a bit from the old lore part for some factions cough
but yes, very good read
storm jungle
Yeee but thankfully can be mostly ignored on the old lore stuff
valid ermine
Hero of the IMPERIUM!
storm jungle
nova meteor
held the imperium together better than robust gingerman
alpine ingot
it's hard for me to tell if I hated listening to Fulgrim, or the First Heretic more to be honest.
I think it's got to be First Heretic.
because, I really tried to give Lorgar a shot, but his book just sealed all my hatred for the bastard.
alpine ingot
not once did he ever stop and go "maybe I was actually wrong and they all had a point." nope, just "oh woah is me, everyone hates me because all I do is wish to speak the truth and I have never done anything wrong ever."
as much as people dog on Angron, at least for him I can feel a bit sad about because we will never see the Angron that was meant to be due to the butcher nails. He was a blunted blade on the verge of breaking when he was found and that's his tragedy. Lorgar... Lorgar was a complete and utter failure.
plush mason
facts
nova meteor
i don't know much about lorgar but i feel like erebus' overwhelming role in the first hh books just ruins anyone's vision of yhe WB
plush mason
lorgar and his world should have been purged by his sons apone the imperium finding them
which is actually what the imperial heralds did before lorgar turned them into the word bearers
alpine ingot
Lorgar's major flaw is that he NEEDS to worship something, when the Emperor chastised him for telling everyone he was a God, Lorgar reaction to this was to switch his faith to the Chaos gods pretty much on the spot once Erebus told him there were gods in the warp.
vapid tiger
He should've turned to worship of dis
nova meteor
deez nuts
plush mason
Lorgar's major flaw is that he NEEDS to worship something, when the Emperor chas...
yeah like why did he need to worship something anyway?
barren tapir
Upbringing
plush mason
fair point
barren tapir
He grow thinking that worship was all it mattered
That there was something bigger than you that you had to worship and to serve
plush mason
something his primarch brain should have never been able to do imo
barren tapir
Primarchs mind were blank slate at start, they kinda took what was taught them first and improved on it, that is why each one of them didn't changed much from their original cultures
barren tapir
Big E knew the end of the path, but not the path that would lead to such end... He foresaw much of their future cultures, but couldn't see if it was him teaching them those cultures or something else
Like, you can see the peak of a mountain, you can see yourself on that mountain, but you cannot see which is the path you will take to get there
prisma lark
well that was stupid of big e
Warhammer 40k lore in a nutshell
plush mason
true
plush mason
Big E knew the end of the path, but not the path that would lead to such end... ...
that shouldnt have matter. he should have said "i will be the one to teach them these things" and then made pains to ensure that version of the future came to be
barren tapir
Then it became a time paradox, is the future you saw the one that would happen because you saw that, or you can actually change the future by foreseeing it?
plush mason
yes as the future can not be fortold
barren tapir
He wanted to teach the primarchs, he even built houses for them
cunning wigeon
Warhammer 40k lore in a nutshell
if you only consider the imperium
plush mason
it is shaped by your actions and the reactions of others to those actions
barren tapir
yes as the future can not be fortold
Then he couldn't make plans to ensure that the future would go as he wanted
Since future cannot be foretold
cunning wigeon
The curse of foresight or whatever its called
plush mason
eh the possible futures are endless. and by the actions we take and the choices we make everyday we narrow down that number
cunning wigeon
and contribute to it
plush mason
yes
barren tapir
Do you? Or you simply follow the only future that was possible?
barren tapir
No one said probable, both you and i said possible
cunning wigeon
but by working to ensure something he could just be guaranteeing the future he saw never happens, thats blanks point. If you see the future you dont know if it caused by your action or inaction so picking a path is pointless
plush mason
fair point
cunning wigeon
whatever will happen was always supposed to happen
barren tapir
I'm shit at explaining this stuff btw
barren tapir
You can feel you have changed the future, but in reality you always followed the only one that could ever have happened
cunning wigeon
remember having to give a presentation on the nature of fate and free will in school
plush mason
its philosophy lol no one can truely explain it
cunning wigeon
yeah exactly
barren tapir
remember having to give a presentation on the nature of fate and free will in sc...
Damn, this sound hard AF
cunning wigeon
haha wasnt fun, to top it off i had to link it to macbeth for the grade
plush mason
remember having to give a presentation on the nature of fate and free will in sc...
the 2 are axium to eachother. for if there is fate there can be no fighting it there for there can be no free will and if there is free will nothing can be pre ordaned and thus there can be no fate
cunning wigeon
exactly, i just made the argument that since fate is unknowable there cant be an argument for free will
plush mason
yup
plush mason
some strange dark age tech used to control human slaves iirc
verbal grail
I wonder if guardsmen ever eat dead tyranids, I mean eating dead xenos isn't heresy for the Blood Angels.
If so wonder what they taste like
nova meteor
i may be wrong but isnt their blood acidic
barren tapir
They did iirc
nova meteor
xenomorph style
barren tapir
But got sanctioned for it iirc
nova meteor
oh yeah no
plush mason
i may be wrong but isnt their blood acidic
only some of them
nova meteor
fair
plush mason
if the given hive fleet finds there is a need for that bio morph it will produce it
nova meteor
ye i always forget how tyranids are lore wise
in their capacity to make literally anything
alpine ingot
what were the butchers nails?
To sum them up rather quickly, they are pain godes( or however that word is spelt) that are surgically implanted into someone's brain driving them into a constant state of rage that only ever becomes bearable if they are carrying out acts of violence. Angron mind was ruined because of these things and he couldn't get them removed else he'd literally would die as a result due to the hack job they did on implanting them in the first place.
And any of his sons who had the nails implanted after he was found, got a "tame" version implanted
errant mauve
what were the butchers nails?
Nail in head go hurty make you angy
plush mason
lol
potent swift
Ok, so I binged TDK: Reign in like two days. Hands down one of the best BL novels I've ever read. ||I never thought there'd be a book where I'd be rooting for the Flayed Ones.||
frosty cobalt
Ok, so I binged TDK: Reign in like two days. Hands down one of the best BL novel...
Become Valgûl, the Fallen Lord
Aka caretaker of angry cats
unborn ruin
i may be wrong but isnt their blood acidic
let them bleed out and make a BBQ party 😄
vapid tiger
she letting out that fart
storm jungle
awful
peak hamlet
Delet
barren tapir
What is the name of that awful author?
storm jungle
Goto?
barren tapir
No, the one that made old art for warhammer
The one that love spiky things
John blache! His art is awful and should be yeeted and incinerated
barren tapir
Wrong
It is awful
And much of dumb shit we still have is because of such awful art
barren tapir
This is kinda good, but it is rare
barren tapir
blank how could you
I have good taste dunno
I just cannot stand blache art, it is awful to my eyes
vapid tiger
but it's like
peak 40k outside of the old old rogue trader artwork
better than IGOR SID
barren tapir
peak 40k outside of the old old rogue trader artwork
For me it is bottom 40k, old rogue trader is hilarious tbf, bare chest with only a slip custodes always make me chuckle
vapid tiger
Better than whatever this is too
barren tapir
This is bad too, but i will take this over blanche thank you
vapid tiger
horrible taste
barren tapir
better than IGOR SID
Who?
barren tapir
horrible taste
Good taste
peak hamlet
Better than whatever this is too
Remove big g and abaddon and only focus on the smol battle and the ships, very pog
barren tapir
Latest art is kinda hit or miss, but blanche is just miss imo
vapid tiger
It is SOULFUL artwork
barren tapir
Ironic, i would say the same about blanche, just spikes and awful stuff in one art doesn't give it soul
barren tapir
Ah
Messed up the reading
Imo blanche is just random things mixed together
Spikes, heels, something about body horror and done
vapid tiger
rad.
barren tapir
Rad as radioactive right?
cold parrot
To each their own ofc but ur outta line 
peak hamlet
To each their own ofc but ur outta line <:laspistol:865679890325831730>
Based
cold parrot
That's why explosives were invented
But what's top tier art for you? Stuff from around 5th ed?
barren tapir
But yes, to each their own is absolutely correct
cold parrot
Smaken är som baken as we say in Sweden
barren tapir
Latest art is kinda my jam, i hardly know from which ed it is though
Give me a sec, i will get my archive
peak hamlet
This i like
vapid tiger
These are fine
barren tapir
I find some of the most recent hit or miss
peak hamlet
This is one of my favourite 40k pieces
barren tapir
See, i find these hilarious, but not as bad as blanche art
barren tapir
This is also nice art imo... I hope that SM 2 will give more nice art with guards
peak hamlet
Real jam
Love these
Also hr giger vibes from some bits
The gun in the first pic for example
peak hamlet
This is also nice art imo... I hope that SM 2 will give more nice art with guard...
Oof
barren tapir
I think that is pretty standard reaction when you are getting shoot without cover by orks
peak hamlet
This looks awesome
barren tapir
Nice
vapid tiger
That's modern but looks nice
storm jungle
John blache! His art is awful and should be yeeted and incinerated
Late but
this statement is so wrong
I may not like Blanche's style but he was the one that pioneered the gothic style for warhammer
barren tapir
You are wrong >:C
barren tapir
I may not like Blanche's style but he was the one that pioneered the gothic styl...
And yet, the fact that he might have pioneered it doesn't make it absolutely the best
peak hamlet
This i love too
barren tapir
This i love too
This is nice indeed
storm jungle
This i love too
WHAT IS THIS, I CAN SEE WHATS GOING ON? WHY ARENT ALL THE FACES BLURRED AND SHITTILY DRAWN LIKE MODERN 40K ART!
vapid tiger
man i wish marines were portrayed as being as fragile as they are on tabletop in the fluff rather than them being superheroes in the fluff
Like you can have then be super strong gorilla men in power armor without them being the most op shit ever in the fluff gw, especially in codices since it at least can kind of make sense in novels
barren tapir
WHAT IS THIS, I CAN SEE WHATS GOING ON? WHY ARENT ALL THE FACES BLURRED AND SHIT...
Details!
cold parrot
I love the 5th ed IG codex art, but I'm biased cuz that was my first real army
40k art is best when it's a bit scruffy imo
peak hamlet
aaaaaa
Out of focus, no need to be detailed af. Also gw having narrow deadlines and underpaying their artists prolly
storm jungle
The details are what gives 40k art identity
I dont care about the excuses lmao
this is fanart quality
barren tapir
The details are what gives 40k art identity
True, that is why blanche is bad!
vapid tiger
No one cares about what I have to say about spess mehreens wow wee
peak hamlet
https://www.warhammer-community.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/12/m7BrFqEosZ5XfPK3....
Tbf thats an incredibly awful example
vapid tiger
True, that is why blanche is bad!
But blanche does detail
barren tapir
Where? All i saw was just tubes going everywhere, spikes and heels...
vapid tiger
blind
peak hamlet
This i love too
Pencil and watercolour obvs wont be as detailed as this for example
vapid tiger
I wonder just how much blanche artwork is unreleased
Never to be seen by the general public
Since he's the guy who does most of the concept sketching for miniatures and factions and whatnot
Like apparently when they were in the early stages of coming up with aos they had this room only a few higher ups and creative heads could enter and the walls were allegedly just covered in blanche's sketches of all kinds of stuff
vapid tiger
Yeah he good
barren tapir
You are joking right?
vapid tiger
blind
odd sparrow
i see ppl are bitching about not all art being super detailed again
rose thorn
https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-Vwr26iKJA48/U7bB07UP92I/AAAAAAAAEyg/Q0aDZt43GPY/s1600...
Who that all the way to the right?
odd sparrow
colour pallet? anatomy? action? nah all that matters is how far into the background i can zoom before it becomes indistinct
peak hamlet
Who that all the way to the right?
Renegade militia enforcer
Basically vraks version of a commissar
peak hamlet
Also holy shit even his non 40k stuff looks like it could fit into 40k lmao
peak hamlet
colour pallet? anatomy? action? nah all that matters is how far into the backgro...
Ikr??
odd sparrow
Also holy shit even his non 40k stuff looks like it could fit into 40k lmao
ah yes
stealthsuits
barren tapir
ah yes
stealthsuits
So stealthy that they infiltrated even other setting... Damn tau are insidious AF
odd sparrow
But yee the weird focus on detailing from ppl here is dumb and i don't get it
barren tapir
burn museums
peak hamlet
But yee the weird focus on detailing from ppl here is dumb and i don't get it
I think thats only dilly and blank tbh
barren tapir
I think thats only dilly and blank tbh
Not even Dil, it was just me saying that i dislike blanche lol
peak hamlet
https://www.warhammer-community.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/12/m7BrFqEosZ5XfPK3....
Like here i agree with em, details pls, doesnt look finished but the other stuff is more than fine
storm jungle
the previous ones all used to be so detailed, I dont want half the shit I look into being a blurry mess
odd sparrow
i have not even seen it once outside of this server
storm jungle
Yeah because not a lot of people talk much about 40k art most of the time
odd sparrow
and more specifically like, u and skele or whoever it is else that gets angry that u can't put ur pupil 1mm from ur pc monitor without the detail of the piece being effected
peak hamlet
Looks good to me
storm jungle
Yeah clearly
LOL
Even the front and center people are barely acknowledgable like oof
odd sparrow
oh no look at how bad it looks when i zoom 500% into it
peak hamlet
Noooooo my brain cant process what that smol blur could possibly be, art bad!!!!!!
storm jungle
ITS RIGHT AT THE FRONT
barren tapir
**oh no look at how bad it looks when i zoom 500% into it**
Bad is bad truth be told
storm jungle
storm jungle
Bad art according to dilly
No because in that they are actually well drawn you doofus
lmao
theres something to actually focus on
odd sparrow
but yeah i'll stop memeing, that piece in particular is p bad cus the blending looks bleh in a few areas and there's no focal point you're meant to focus on
peak hamlet
but yeah i'll stop memeing, that piece in particular is p bad cus the blending l...
Would look great if the artish had more time, yee
But still
eternal ledge
Really holding back links to early Battletech art
dim totem
No because in that they are actually well drawn you doofus
@peak hamlet doofus
odd sparrow
I'm chill with indistinct backgrounds and generally less precisely drawn details, but there's gotta be a focal point in the forefront or middle that's supposed to grab your attention
peak hamlet
Some of the complaints here are really over the top
storm jungle
It realy isnt tho
odd sparrow
Which should be reasonably well detailed, and framed by the background & surroundings
peak hamlet
<@!598076731039023104> doofus
😭
dim totem
storm jungle
But eh whatever.
odd sparrow
You don't have to be able to glare over every single square cm of it for it to be decent art
barren tapir
Details >>> awful mess without defined things
peak hamlet
You don't have to be able to glare over every single square cm of it for it to b...
Like if you dont zoom in the sob one is great
odd sparrow
ehh that one still kinda sucks regardless
storm jungle
Details >>> awful mess without defined things
Thank you, christ.
odd sparrow
the vaguely lime green vomit that is the flamer fire taking up the forefront doesn't help lol
storm jungle
People make it sound like I'm expecting a picasso out of everything
peak hamlet
Love the background thingies
peak hamlet
People make it sound like I'm expecting a picasso out of everything <:lul:825836...
You make it sound like that tbh 👀
barren tapir
Thank you, christ.
Confused scratching my head
Weren't you... wa... Uhm....
dim totem
i dont mind the art style, reminds me of ck3 and aoe4 nowadays
then again i dont mind a lot of things
peak hamlet
*Confused scratching my head*
Weren't you... wa... Uhm....
Wa..??
peak hamlet
I mean it is the worst possible example
dim totem
peak hamlet
https://preview.redd.it/d62vzfpfchz41.jpg?auto=webp&s=aed9a2ccefb894318e6d2d55db...
This is great
odd sparrow
https://preview.redd.it/d62vzfpfchz41.jpg?auto=webp&s=aed9a2ccefb894318e6d2d55db...
kill
peak hamlet
Ok stab =/= kill i see
barren tapir
Yup
barren tapir
Caesar required 28 stab iirc to be killed
peak hamlet
Omw to stab some folk (not murder actually)
barren tapir
Omw to stab some folk (not murder actually)
Aggression actually, but if they don't die it is not murder
odd sparrow
But yee idc that much abt details so long as it's got a distinct attitude and motion to it.
the linked gsc art just,, highkey doesn't
nothing is happening
scenic bolt
I kinda like gallagher he was one of the bridges between the og 40k style and the new stuff without losing his charm completely
odd sparrow
yee landscapes are a whole other vibe to 40k combat scene stuff
peak hamlet
Combining landscapes with other stuff works really well too
dim totem
yeah sorry im just a huge fan of the ckiii and aoe4 art after looking at them for hours
odd sparrow
Some of my favourite 40k art has been the uh, i think it was the KT chalnath booklet artwork? With tau vs SoB
which is REALLY stylized, v little detail to speak of
peak hamlet
Post!!
odd sparrow
one sec it was posted here a while ago
from what dil posted a few months ago, p sure that's from chalnath
p much framed like comic panels and i LOVE them
dim totem
oh yeah
odd sparrow
I wish there was more like it
peak hamlet
Yeah its neat but idk i prefer karl kopinskis stuff
odd sparrow
Reminds me a lot of the dark knight returns, with how much it plays around with motion and less literal elements
super monochrome etc
dim totem
Yeah its neat but idk i prefer karl kopinskis stuff
bobo karl kpinski simp confimed
scenic bolt
its fun and different
dim totem
jk i dont know who karl is
peak hamlet
bobo karl kpinski simp confimed
Based
odd sparrow
so long as it's not like
the full on senseless bolter porn art
which is the only stuff i genuinely don't like
peak hamlet
jk i dont know who karl is
scenic bolt
jk i dont know who karl is
dim totem
oh yeh those are neat
peak hamlet
That might be from him too, no idea tho
eternal ledge
Drip Calgar
peak hamlet
That *might* be from him too, no idea tho
Similar artstyle at least
odd sparrow
That *might* be from him too, no idea tho
i hate this one purely cus of the ominously floating starship looking thing in the distance
spaceships do not work like that
vapid tiger
spaceships do not work like that
They do in scifi
scenic bolt
I would like to say kopinski was inspired by my boy gallagher though
vapid tiger
Star destroyers ominously float around in atomsphere in star wars why not 40k
odd sparrow
They do in scifi
awful
peak hamlet
i hate this one purely cus of the ominously floating starship looking thing in t...
Pretty sure thats a fortress and not floating
storm jungle
i hate this one purely cus of the ominously floating starship looking thing in t...
Thats probably an eldar transport craft
they do have them in lore
vapid tiger
I would like to say kopinski was inspired by my boy gallagher though
Peak shit
storm jungle
small dropships
vapid tiger
Why can't I have my oldhammer flavor injected back into modern 40k
vapid tiger
You don't need to alleviate the grimdark with "okay but the imperium is angelic and good" just inject some humor and absurdity into it
Some LIFE
storm jungle
- Oldhammer™️
vapid tiger
Despite all the pipes 1e's version of 40k feels more lived in and like
odd sparrow
You don't need to alleviate the grimdark with "okay but the imperium is angelic ...
bring back angry gorilla marines
vapid tiger
A place where people can live? But still hellish
peak hamlet
also cus oldhammer looks like ass
odd sparrow
Also yes I know exactly what art ur referencing with the angelic imperium bit
i also hate it
odd sparrow
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/745324840097153167/936255125968809984/fuc...
still wanna hug that ork
so tiny
peak hamlet
Angry dwarf ork
odd sparrow
he could not run faster than a mouse
vapid tiger
It's like gw thinks its consumers are stupid
okay tbf a lot of 40k fans are stupid but it's like they're trying to market as if everyone is stupid
"Okay guys the zoomers won't buy our shit unless we have the space marines be marketable good guys"
storm jungle
Yeah thats what I love about 40k marketing
peak hamlet
You can just pick him up and hes gonna flail his arms around
storm jungle
on the surface its suppose to look like a space adventure
peak hamlet
Helpless
storm jungle
BUT THE MOMENT
you open a codex
its filled with gory page decorations
and other horrors
vapid tiger
That's the weird part
storm jungle
odd sparrow
it's cus u wanna sell this to kids as well
vapid tiger
Because you get that but then like
vapid tiger
For example the deathwatch codex has horrifying artwork and implications
But then also is like
odd sparrow
You don't want your big sci fi tabletop thing to be full of gruesome body horror the moment little timmy buys his first rulebook
vapid tiger
"DEATHWATCH ARE HEROIC AND TOTALLY NECESSARY FOR THE IOM TO SURVIVE, MANKIND WOULD GO EXTINCT"
eternal ledge
Hahaha
odd sparrow
The whole necessary for humanity thing is what irks me
cus like
how far do u have to go to translate it over to fascistic rhetoric lol
storm jungle
Its stuff like that Erebus guy always blabbers about
"humanity wouldnt survive with the imperium"
no they would
stfu
vapid tiger
I think in the 9th ed core book there's literally a blurb that's just a reddit comment
Like it's literally just "MANKIND WOULD GO EXTINCT WITHOUT THE IMPERIUM SO DESPITE ALL THE HORRORS THEY'RE JUST DOING IT BECAUSE THEY HAVE NO OTHER CHOICE"
And it's like jfc can you not
odd sparrow
just swap out all the ~threatening xenos races we must unite against~ with the ethnic minority of the week
storm jungle
the Imperium's eventual fate is basically to be broken up into warlord states in the future
and just become a segregated empire
peak hamlet
Tfw a handfull marines got black armour and silver shoulderpads so now they are better at fighting various alien races that dont have any similarities and thus are impossible to specialise on
odd sparrow
I think in the 9th ed core book there's literally a blurb that's just a reddit c...
justify fascism through the lens of a fictional setting or pull 24
peak hamlet
the Imperium's eventual fate is basically to be broken up into warlord states in...
Would be so much better than current day 40k man
vapid tiger
Like I think there's a difference between marketing space marines like it's space crusade and they're heroes and like
Writing down fascist rhetoric that feels creepy
Like you can do the former and not do the latter gw
odd sparrow
Yeahh
least you can do is go all the way and not make ur newly minted good guys fascistic
storm jungle
Yeah its the same reason why I roll my eyes when people say 40k isnt satire anymore
as long as the Imperium exists it will always be satire
its not in your face about it but its still there
vapid tiger
Like you can market the space marines as goodies and I'm not gonna like
I'm not gonna like it but fine whatever idc they're space marines
But I think the IoM justification COMES FROM the aggro space marine marketing because for some reason the britbrains at gw try to make the connection of "space marines good, so imperium good too right? Heroic?"
peak hamlet
Yeah its the same reason why I roll my eyes when people say 40k isnt satire anym...
No thats actually the problem, since it isnt obvious that it is satire anymore ppl actually believe the imperium are the good guys
vapid tiger
And then they remember "but it's grimdark"
And try to have their cake and eat it by writing down that the imperium does horrific shit
But then "oh yeah but it's noble and necessary"
odd sparrow
it's so easy to balance the two out too. Just push it as space marines were meant to be good and remain good by nature, but the imperium has degenerated from their dads' vision so all they can do is pick up the pieces
imperium god awful fascistic hellhole, u get ur nice marines
eternal ledge
it's so easy to balance the two out too. Just push it as *space marines were mea...
The Guiliman Paradox
vapid tiger
like I remember someone linked that dated flashgitz black templar video in another discord and said "it so perfectly encapsulates 40k's themes of noble sacrifice, they exterminatus to survive" and like
it's entirely gw's fault despite their statement about "they are NOT the goodies"
Like you can't say that but also write them to where fans will say shit like the above
eternal ledge
Fucking hates the way things are but puts up with it to keep the Imperium going
barren tapir
it's so easy to balance the two out too. Just push it as *space marines were mea...
With the exceptions of some SM, since BT are batshit fanatical crazy biological weapons that would be probably annihilated by big E if he ever return to what he was before the great crusade
peak hamlet
Also pls add a few zeros to ur marine numbers gw, 1000 marines is a joke on an earth sized planet
vapid tiger
Guilliman: "the imperium is terrible"
gw: "guilliman is good"
also gw: "the imperium is also good too btw"
ALSO ALSO GW: "the imperium is not the goodies"
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
peak hamlet
Even current day earth would fuck 1000 marines up
storm jungle
LITERALLY
barren tapir
Also pls add a few zeros to ur marine numbers gw, 1000 marines is a joke on an e...
Also the size of planets, somehow all planets are the same size
peak hamlet
God ikr?
storm jungle
A good shot from an abrams would like kill a single tactical marine
odd sparrow
I mean, wouldn't most habitable planets be a similar size
habitable by humans anyways
barren tapir
I mean, wouldn't most habitable planets be a similar size
Not really
vapid tiger
I just entirely disregard space marine chapter numbers and just scale it up by 10x whenever I see or hear space marine numbers
peak hamlet
"ThE sIzE oF aSmAlL mOoN" holy shit gw moons range from tiny to gigantic give us numbers
barren tapir
Earth could have been bigger too, if it wasn't for other planets that attracted more mass
odd sparrow
I just entirely disregard 40k in general
yeah but like. gravity? unless that's significantly effected by the composition of the planet
vapid tiger
Like I love oculus imperia's videos but it gets ridiculous when he posts a video and lists off lexicanum numbers and is like
"And so a GRAND PLANETARY INVASION ARMY WAS ASSEMBLED consisting of a whopping ONE MILLION NORMAL HUMANS"
Like one million guys is not enough to invade a planet
odd sparrow
idk if we have any cosmologists around here
barren tapir
yeah but like. gravity? unless that's significantly effected by the composition ...
Oh, yeah, also high gravity worlds... GW FFS what the hell this mean??
peak hamlet
A good shot from an abrams would like kill a single tactical marine
Doesnt even need an abrams, ifv's would absolutely tear through marines, 30mm autocannon with more than 1km range and your marines are dead
odd sparrow
Like I love oculus imperia's videos but it gets ridiculous when he posts a video...
ah yes, a few dozen roman legions
eternal ledge
Only time I've seen anything special about larger than normal planets was Lorgar's homeworld
odd sparrow
damn really a galactic scale invasion
vapid tiger
A fucking barret anti material rifle would tear through a space marine
This is the truth gw doesn't want to tell you
eternal ledge
It's like 140% earth's size
odd sparrow
EVERY. PLANET. IS. SORTA. LIKE. EARTH.
tbh idm this, if it's habitable by humans then like
yeah
barren tapir
Doesnt even need an abrams, ifv's would absolutely tear through marines, 30mm au...
Yup, and that is another thing that i like to point out to imperial stans, it is not that SM are super strong, it is that the imperium make sure that every planet under them is at piss poor level of defence, otherwise they would be harder to get under the heel
peak hamlet
Good luck with your 1 million "planetary invasion"
odd sparrow
not really, the reason why marines are a big deal is cus they're meant to be like. spec ops vibes. Precision strikes behind enemy lines etc
u dont attack terrestial defenses with marines
vapid tiger
ah yes, a few dozen roman legions
PLANETARY INVASION FORCE
siege of vraks b like "THIS IS ONE OF THE WORST CONFLICTS IN HUMAN HISTORY, SLAUGHTER ON A PLANETARY SCALE, ALL THE MUD IS COVERED IN BLOOD AND LAYER UPON LAYER OF DECOMPOSING BODIES BURIED UNDER RUBBLE AND MORE MUD, IT IS LITERALLY HELL"
Total casualties: less than half of those in ww2
scenic bolt
Like in normal circumstance thisd be the colors of a demon planet
barren tapir
not really, the reason why marines are a big deal is cus they're meant to be lik...
And yet, they fail at that too, since going around in powered armour and shouting "for the emperor!!" isn't exactly spec ops thing
vapid tiger
Marines are often portrayed as fighting like frontline troops despite the spec ops thing
That's a fan rationalization of gw writers having no sense of scale
scenic bolt
the true eye of terror
barren tapir
SM are not special troops, they are just overglorified shock troops, the kind of guys that you send to die
dim totem
more than one climate
vapid tiger
I do not take 40k's hard numbers seriously and instead focus on the broad strokes and concepts
There are as many space marines in each chapter as the plot demands
eternal ledge
more than one climate
Armageddon
scenic bolt
40k numbers are handwaved
like the number of people on terra is in the quadrillions in some books
eternal ledge
North pole is a volcano filled hell hole
scenic bolt
and the number of people waiting to get on terra is in the quintillions
odd sparrow
more than one climate
that's a sci fi issue in general
scenic bolt
aint 1000 marines protecting that
odd sparrow
thanks dune & star wars
ah yes this is a desert planet
a jungle planet
an arctic planet
vapid tiger
Space marines are fighting like frontline troops? Fuck it, that chapter must have enough marines to spare (a shitload)
Space marines deployed as single operatives in warzones ala the marines in gaunt's ghosts and the mentor legion? Fuck it, the chapter might get away with 1000 men then
peak hamlet
Just look at it on a galactic scale, there are way more systems than there are marines
dim totem
ah yes this is a desert planet
a jungle planet
an arctic planet
i think about this a lot and i dont know anything about astrolonomology
odd sparrow
i hc there being like a few million marines all in all
dim totem
but isnt mars and the moon and shit like that
scenic bolt
depends a lot on the season
peak hamlet
i hc there being like a few million marines all in all
Hc?
odd sparrow
hosing canopies
barren tapir
but isnt mars and the moon and shit like that
Some planets can have only one climate, it depend on a lot of things, but if they are in the habitable distance ring they tend to be more variable in their climates generally
barren tapir
Head cache
peak hamlet
Yes
scenic bolt
habitable satellites get tricky cause then you got its parent messing with sunlight
dim totem
Some planets can have only one climate, it depend on a lot of things, but if the...
you mean a specific habitable distance from their sun?
scenic bolt
depends how hard something gets tidally locked like the moon you got hemispheres that go through long periods of day and night
odd sparrow
gonna be living on a very slow moving planet in which days are a reasonable temperature and nights instantly kill u, so all cultures are nomadic and constantly moving with the sun
barren tapir
you mean a specific habitable distance from their sun?
Yes, the habitable zone
dim totem
right
odd sparrow
or maybe the reverse and nobody knows what the sun looks like cus it heats u to death immediately
dim totem
so why is the moon the way it is
barren tapir
or maybe the reverse and nobody knows what the sun looks like cus it heats u to ...
Ratty, this is mordia...
odd sparrow
the moon is rock in space wdym
dim totem
and the earth is not?
odd sparrow
idc about mordian fluff they're an aesthetically poor regiment
barren tapir
so why is the moon the way it is
There are various theories, one is that its atmosphere was eaten by terra
scenic bolt
but you could pick a fun world thats tidally locked with its star, where the sunside is a hellhole and the nightside is permafrost and the habitable region is the twilight area between the two
dim totem
There are various theories, one is that its atmosphere was eaten by terra
what by what
scary stuff
dim totem
but we need that for like
scenic bolt
you mean to tell me moonfall isnt real??????
dim totem
seas
barren tapir
Each year it get 3 mm more distant iirc
odd sparrow
if u mean like, the irl moon, consensus is that it's the product of debris in the wake of an asteroid impact on earth. It never had an atmosphere, it can't maintain one
scenic bolt
moon ejectaaaaa
dim totem
bring back the moon
vapid tiger
Alright blank
barren tapir
Oh, and btw, it seems that a space x rocket is gonna crash on it
odd sparrow
mars did have one before, but it got borked
peak hamlet
I keep saying this, lets nuke the moon, just to see what happens
scenic bolt
but fr earths moon is a freak
vapid tiger
Which john blanche primarch is your favorite
dim totem
lucky william shatner wasnt in that one
scenic bolt
normal moons are not that big in proportion to the planet
barren tapir
Which john blanche primarch is your favorite
Awful all of them
peak hamlet
Which john blanche primarch is your favorite
Sanguinius and horus
vapid tiger
Fulgrim with da pickelhaube
dim totem
Awful all of them
fight me
barren tapir
Hey, you asked my opinion i delivered
peak hamlet
Petition to ban blank for having incorrect tastes
cold parrot
thanks dune & star wars
Hey don't blame dune, Arrakis does have polar caps and there's LORE to explain why it's all sand. I don't remember them talking much about other planets' climates
vapid tiger
Sanguinius and horus
Lovers
barren tapir
Petition to ban blank for having incorrect tastes
:C
This is clearly the effect of the blank status
vapid tiger
Ironic that a discord community based around a 40k vidya is more critical of 40k than any other 40k based discord I'm in, including community ones
odd sparrow
Hey don't blame dune, Arrakis does have polar caps and there's LORE to explain w...
it still def popularised the concept of planets having bespoke climates, but tbh idm it. Sci fi planets function like cities or countries in conventional fiction, they're meant to have a distinct vibe
doesn't rly like,, work that well,, if it's as nuanced and funky as earth
dim totem
it still def popularised the concept of planets having bespoke climates, but tbh...
i dont mind either but it nags my peanut brain
scenic bolt
its simpler from the perspective of a writer
treat the location of a planet as A location
different location different planet different locale
vapid tiger
imagine how awful the primarchs must have smelled
Evens sanguinius and fulgrim
scenic bolt
still nags me somewhat
odd sparrow
yee
vapid tiger
They are soldiers
odd sparrow
imagine how awful the primarchs must have smelled
Evens sanguinius and fulgrim
why would they smell bad
big e prolly engineered sangy to smell like roses & perfume
scenic bolt
armor interior sanitation tech was lost to the dark ages
peak hamlet
why would they smell bad
Humanity forgot how to make deodorants in 40k 😭
vapid tiger
Actually the primarchs are actually sometimes portrayed as armchair commanders who only get into combat when it looks like they can get to be glory hounds so like
Maybe they smelled fine during most conflicts
dim totem
i bet ferrus mannus smells like grease and motor oil
scenic bolt
shower thought did they have to make primarch sized loos
vapid tiger
Like ferrus manus just kind of sat around giving orders and berating his sons for not being good enough
dim totem
primarchs dont shit
odd sparrow
Fulgrim def showered regularly
dim totem
do they?
odd sparrow
guilliman showered only as regularly as is necessary that his smell wouldn't interrupt political proceedings
scenic bolt
if theyre in the armor I imagine that handles all of that
vapid tiger
They're just big space marines
odd sparrow
perty never showers and maintains it is objectively inefficient
vapid tiger
if theyre in the armor I imagine that handles all of that
Okay so like
Question about space marine armor
dim totem
do big E’s genetically engineered super soldiers have cornholes?
odd sparrow
he has not left his armour in 6 years
vapid tiger
Does it recycle the poo or does it like
peak hamlet
Fulgrim def showered regularly
Sangy too, they are the ones that def would allways smell good
vapid tiger
Collect in a diaper
scenic bolt
SPACE MARINE DIAPERS
odd sparrow
yee
peak hamlet
perty never showers and maintains it is objectively inefficient
Mofo got half his head covered in cables, he would just die if he would get into contact with water
odd sparrow
Smells good: sangy, fulgrim
Doesn't smell: khan, guilliman, lion, alpharius
Smells p bad: wolfboi, perty
Smells horrific: morty
vapid tiger
no i need to know logistics of the shit
Because I can realistically believe that the piss gets recycled into drinkable liquid since you can technically drink piss but how would that work with feces
scenic bolt
Im guessing the armors gotta do it, cause if theyre on a world thats not habitable for extended periods its a hassle to have to go back to their fob to shit
odd sparrow
how abt we just
peak hamlet
Smells good: sangy, fulgrim
Doesn't smell: khan, guilliman, lion, alpharius
Smel...
Angron would prolly smell badly sweaty 24/7, doubt he showers
odd sparrow
say that they take off a portion of the armour to poop
vapid tiger
no i need to know power armor logistics
odd sparrow
fancy sci fi power armour doesn't have to build in EVERYTHING
barren tapir
The armour recycle human waste
odd sparrow
idk which setting is to blame for this gimmick
vapid tiger
how does iron man shit
scenic bolt
ratty is team diapers
odd sparrow
but i hate it
odd sparrow
Angron would prolly smell badly sweaty 24/7, doubt he showers
ye angron would have gamer syndrome imo
odd sparrow
Yeah but like
barren tapir
Since they recycle shit too
odd sparrow
stillsuits have a REASON to work like that
they exist to maintain moisture
tf does power armour need to work like that
peak hamlet
say that they take off a portion of the armour to poop
If ppl could do it in the 1400's onwards they can prolly do it 30k years later too
dim totem
Smells good: sangy, fulgrim
Doesn't smell: khan, guilliman, lion, alpharius
Smel...
i think khan smells like a stable
odd sparrow
khan smells like dirt
dim totem
lion probably smells manly
barren tapir
tf does power armour need to work like that
To recycle stuff to extend operational time
vapid tiger
Do you know how the freemen suits work in dune? Exactly that
Did the stillsuits like
Recycle poop?
Or just sweat and piss
odd sparrow
Russ refuses to shower cus he maintains it isn't manly
peak hamlet
Corax smells like cheap deodorant
dim totem
wet dog
scenic bolt
and if youre on a planet where your armor has to maintain an airtight seal due to extreme pressure or temp or gas comp
barren tapir
No, the stillsit just sweat, piss, tears all body liquids
dim totem
corax smells like this balls of fat you hang in the garden for birds
barren tapir
But SM armour go about everything
dim totem
or a chickencoop
barren tapir
What about the solid waste
Stillsuit need to be taken off to shit iirc
scenic bolt
It had something to do with that
where it extracted all the moisture out and left chalk basically
vapid tiger
What does this buzz lightyear looking mf do when he's gotta shit in the active warzone
Are they hypno indoctrinated to hold it in for weeks
barren tapir
What does this buzz lightyear looking mf do when he's gotta shit in the active w...
Shit in his armour, and then continue shooting
vapid tiger
BUT LIKE
scenic bolt
marine musk
barren tapir
SM armour can process it
vapid tiger
IF HE SHITS IN THE ARMOR
THEN HE WOULD BE WEARING A DIRTY DIAPER FOR WEEKS
THAT CAN CAUSE INFECTION
dim totem
guilliman smells like old books and eldar **** ******** and *** ****** ****
barren tapir
There is no diaper, it get processed and then if something that cannot be recycled it get ejected
peak hamlet
SPACE MARINES DONT SHIT INTO THEIR ARMOUR WHATS WRONG WITH YOU LOT
dim totem
oh wait that didnt come out good
vapid tiger
HOW DO THEY SHIT
barren tapir
SPACE MARINES DONT SHIT INTO THEIR ARMOUR WHATS WRONG WITH YOU LOT
They do, like they eat into them too
dim totem
they dont
scenic bolt
that we can all agree on
vapid tiger
they shit everywhere
dim totem
why would you not genetically engineer the meed to shit
scenic bolt
now onto the other 17 chapters
peak hamlet
They can survive months without food, they need to shit like once a month too
barren tapir
What a shitty explanation
vapid tiger
Reddit has an answer
"For some reason I always imagine that Astartes poop like Nibbler from Futurama: very infrequently as they metabolise 99% of what they ingest, but when they do it's super dense faecal matter that weighs about as much as a mortal, possibly only about the size of a pint glass."
barren tapir
This is a fan made one though
vapid tiger
200 pound shit the size of a pint glass
eternal ledge
I imagine they take massive dumps before departing their battleships and the ship recycling into fuel
vapid tiger
no this is now my headcanon
barren tapir
200 pound shit the size of a pint glass
Super useful as fuel maybe?
scenic bolt
part of the geneseed is reinforcing their bowels
odd sparrow
What does this buzz lightyear looking mf do when he's gotta shit in the active w...
i imagine they just,, poop
maybe they have a hatch idk
scenic bolt
reinforced against the super dooce
eternal ledge
200 pound shit the size of a pint glass
barren tapir
Remember, poop can be used to track you, if SAS operators had to shit in bags that they would keep on them i imagine that SM do the same
peak hamlet
Ping me when we arent talking about poop anymore 🚶
vapid tiger
Space marines can eject the bags
barren tapir
And death guard one double as hand granades
scenic bolt
I think the nightlords would do so as well
barren tapir
Only against hyper sanitizer worlds
scenic bolt
screaming bat super man chucking poo at you like the mon keigh they are
barren tapir
BTW, i cannot believe that all this started by me stating that blanche art was shit... I guess we have gone full circle now, and can let this chat rest
vapid tiger
wait
dim totem
wait?
vapid tiger
wait i think boltgun projectiles are supposed to fire projectiles that look like blaster bolts but are actually physical projectiles
that would explain the more generalized description of "big bullet guns" from rt
and the name boltgun
peak hamlet
What
scenic bolt
unless it meant these
vapid tiger
It would explain them looking like laser guns in rt artwork
past glade
after reading the inconsistencies in power armour, i have come to say; they have a sub-system in their power armour, which allows them to recycle nutrients. space marines are still genetically human and therefore we can expect many of the same biologial processes. my source is the deathwatch core rulebook, the exact text goes like this: Nutrient Recycling: Filters in the armour capture and
purify body waste, re-constituting it into a nutrient solution that
is intravenously returned to the body. This can sustain a Battle-
Brother for long periods of time, but not indefinitely. For every
two weeks that no other source of nutrition is ingested, make
a Toughness Test or suffer one level of Fatigue until nutrition
is consumed. The Difficulty of this test increases one step for
every two weeks that passes without food or Preomnor-derived
sustenance.
vapid tiger
who would win
past glade
basically allows space marines to fight starvation and dehydration for longer, but considering the betchers gland, preomnor, neuroglotis and oolitic kidneys, they can eat a lot more than a human can
vapid tiger
Genetically augmented superhuman marine with decades of service
vs
an egg
Who wins
barren tapir
The egg, and it is canon
