#40k-lore-chat

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scenic bolt
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Make it unique by painting them in camo colors specific to the mats you typically play on

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Legit had opponents forget units exist because of it

coral dew
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I'm not really new, that's why I was excited if I've finally seen something that wasn't just a namesake lol

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And you don't sound rude, Van, overall I'm a pretty braindead person so don't feel bad.

barren tapir
rose thorn
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ahh, yeah the only way i could really think was colorscheme or have certain type of units have special mutations that common in certain units or across your army

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like 'yeah my swarm fuckers have gills'

scenic bolt
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I forget which hive fleet it is but one of their official schemes is best described as molten rock

rose thorn
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or alot of your guys would have feathers

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actually thats a good idea im gonna save that in the brain vault

scenic bolt
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So brown base with bright oranges and reds

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I’ve also seen one army at an old FLGS that put a bunch of terrain and static grass on his nids so it looked kinda like a mix between ghillie suit nids and what if the nids were ents and dryads

rose thorn
scenic bolt
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Basically

rose thorn
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damn that seems like a huge opening for alot of biopunk style stuff

scenic bolt
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Think “they’re in the trees” but they’re actually the trees

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It was a good looking army but if they were in forest terrain you’d have to double check their numbers as an opponent

grand berry
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GET HIM

prime kernel
prisma lark
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ah yes, the famous "discrod"

rose thorn
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My friend literally just got diskorded :(

quick zealot
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Brug

rose thorn
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HE GOT HSI ACCOUNR BACK

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Hebeuwoie

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I’m so glad

mellow depot
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You should bully him

rose thorn
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There needs to be more eldar corsairs lore tbh

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They are too cool to just be

‘Eldar with jump packs’

atomic pelican
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the cool 'eldar with jumppacks' are just swooping hawks

rose thorn
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There should at least be 3 examples of eldar corsairs fleets

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My addiction to space pirates will never end,

Space elves fucking pillaging merchant ships and taking any job they can

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Fucl that path shit I just need loot

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Honestly I might buy the combat patrol for the eldar

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And make them all corsiars

odd sparrow
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Corsairs should be way more irregular than CWE

rose thorn
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Yeah 100% they would be more like Just random groups of space pirates and pillagers with some groups big enough to actually do crap

storm jungle
storm jungle
rose thorn
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Really? I’ve only seen like 2

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And one of them was just drukhari

storm jungle
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Who were they?

rose thorn
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They were the drukhari that pretended to be Corsair and attacked some SM chapter

storm jungle
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Lmao

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that sounds a bit dumb

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dark eldar are all technically pirates, why pretend

rose thorn
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Which caused a skirmish between a CW and said chapter

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Some how

storm jungle
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But yeah these are all the major corsair bands:

unknown.png
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now go and try googling any one of them

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good luck finding anything KEK

rose thorn
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Lmao

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Names are ducking sick

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I’ve actually read about void warriors

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Literally

storm jungle
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Yeee some of these guys are ancient

rose thorn
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Carcharadons

storm jungle
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Eldritch Raiders might have the "most" lore since its Yriel's crew

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otherwise its usually RPG booklets that explore corsairs a bit more but even then its really barebones stuff

rose thorn
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Damn

rose thorn
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I’m gonna make my own corsairs with blackjack and hookers

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Except they are more like pirate traders

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They will mainly carry value cargo and trade it with other CWs

barren tapir
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So merchants

rose thorn
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Yes

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With the occasional pirate shit

barren tapir
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So merchants

rose thorn
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Yeah

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Pirate merchants

Yeah basically pirate merchants

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Pimp them out with a lot of valuable silks, treasure, jewery, a lot of treasure pouches

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Silk Road

barren tapir
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Silk space lane

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Why in the future silk would still be used to indicate a rich trade route is beyond me, but hey, it sound cool

rose thorn
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Because silk is fucking cool

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I still have some eldar models I’ve never used for anything

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I’ll probably 3d print the jump-pack stuff and green stuff them some cloth and jewelry

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I just need a name and a color scheme

The silks will probably be 2 different colors depending on what unit they are in so my dodo brain wouldn’t get them mixed up

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But like the armor

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‘Yes we specialize in trading space silk and space spices’

storm jungle
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they are the middle ground between druks/CW

rose thorn
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Yeah

storm jungle
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as long as they arent big assholes they would do regular trading stuff with other eldar

rose thorn
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Oh yeah they would just assholes to like

People they can easily rob or any non eldar not worth a damn

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Also ynnari because I hate ynnari

storm jungle
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Yeee as with most 40k things its really interchangable

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Same as how you can just make your marine Chapter good or bad etc

rose thorn
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Yeah

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What’s a good corsair name?

I’m thinking like

Silver moons or something with silver in it

storm jungle
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Lmao trust me

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looking back at these names

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you can probably pick something much more cooler on your own

rose thorn
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Lmao

storm jungle
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BUT Silver Moons sounds pretty good!

rose thorn
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What ere craft worlds named usually anyway?

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Most eldar crap I see are just 2 word that are cool next to each other

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Oh it’s like

Just a splurge of letters

storm jungle
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Depends

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its usually just made up names

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scroll down and you can see them all

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the major craftworlds for example are named after irish holidays

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Just with a few changed words KEK

rotund siren
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huh

storm jungle
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YEP

rotund siren
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wow

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alright

rose thorn
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Letters

peak hamlet
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Lugganath example lookin sexy

rose thorn
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Imagine being supposedly one of the smartest races in existences but all your names are just Irish

storm jungle
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GW Moment

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but yeah krauss just go nuts, eldar culturally are a mix of Japanese, Indian and ırish

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so you got a lot of possibilities naming wise

barren tapir
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Who ever said that eldar were the smartest?

storm jungle
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😩

barren tapir
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No no, really, psychically powerful yes, smart not so much

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"Indicate their fall"

rose thorn
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Indian as in US or India Indians

barren tapir
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See, some were more smart, still not smartest

storm jungle
rose thorn
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Pog

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Silver Thorns of Magairians?

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(Just fucked magairlíní which means orchid

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Mehhh

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Maybe not thorns

storm jungle
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I think Silver Thorns works

storm jungle
rose thorn
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Pog

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What sounds better silver Thorns or silver moons!

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?

cerulean wagon
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uh depends

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thorns makes me think of aggressive strike raids, moon sounds like a seer council

storm jungle
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^ was gonna say lmao

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one is gentle the other is punchy

rose thorn
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Hmm, they are Corsiars so maybe thorns?

plush mason
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so is ulthan still stuck at the edge of the eye of terror?

rose thorn
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Or maybe pull out a fancy fantasy word like paladins

atomic pelican
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They are essentially in a spiral with it

plush mason
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so they cant just move away from it?

atomic pelican
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no

plush mason
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rip

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sucks to be them

atomic pelican
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They're sort of in a orbit with it

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Every once and awhile they pass close

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if you can see their trail

cerulean wagon
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so thats basically

atomic pelican
cerulean wagon
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3 dead craftworlds off the back of gathering storm?

atomic pelican
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Which ones?

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Ulthwe isn't ded

cerulean wagon
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its dying, just very slowly

atomic pelican
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Hmm I mean, they're not flying directly into the eye

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If you said that, you could apply it to basically every craftworld

plush mason
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i mean arent most craftworlds in that state by now?

cerulean wagon
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i mean, passing that close can't exactly be good for them

atomic pelican
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Oh yeah for sure

cerulean wagon
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biel tan is gone

atomic pelican
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But they also have some of the best psykers of the Aeldari + their populace is trained for it

cerulean wagon
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and so is another i forgot the name of

atomic pelican
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Also, Biel Tan still exists bieltan

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Even weakened

cerulean wagon
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barely

atomic pelican
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They're rebuilding

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The Swordwind still goes around owning crone worlds which is kind of hilarious

cerulean wagon
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how do you rebuild from demons in the infinity circuit

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and the craftworld being split in half

atomic pelican
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The Ynnari cleansed that + the circuit near detonated

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I shit u not the pieces of the craftworld are still being glued back together

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Biel Tan is p much just a fleet rn

plush mason
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is there something wrong with the ulthwe craftworld that prevents them from breaking the orbit or is it just more eldar melodrama/stubberness?

atomic pelican
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Uh honestly I'm not sure, because Craftworlds can move on their own

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I assume it has something to do with fate, since Ulthwe is the craftworld of Seers

plush mason
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yeah

storm jungle
rose thorn
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Pog

storm jungle
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🙏

rose thorn
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I’ll probably paint their armor

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Shocker; silver

storm jungle
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Silver eldar would be a striking look so you got my vote chief 👍

rose thorn
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Nice, and the more pastel look of the silks would work well with it

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And it will look good with the gold jewelry

storm jungle
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Yus, im pretty sure eldar with silver camo arent a thing either so you're free to go lmao

rose thorn
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Lmao

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Probably silver and black

With red eyes

barren tapir
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Silver and black slap

rose thorn
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Agreed

barren tapir
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Two of my fav colours

prime kernel
vast kindle
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y'all think other galaxies have eyes of terror or is just like a thing ours got as punishment for existence

prime kernel
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to such an extend that they started putting vorpal daggers on em.

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that rotated.

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and so they murder fucked a chaos god into existance.

storm jungle
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Yeah the eye of terror was man-made

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its not a natural phenomenon

vast kindle
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so other galaxies have got a nice separation of real and warp
no daemons coming out of space sphincters
must be nice

atomic pelican
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this galaxy is the disease

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tyranids are the cure

meager gale
vast kindle
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Joining a gene cult tho 🤢 I'll stick with my lazyboy skeletron thank you very much

meager gale
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super ultra big map

cerulean wagon
atomic pelican
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oh god that map

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Honestly the official GW map is.. nice and comprehensible

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also it's interactive

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which is cool

meager gale
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yeah this map is fucking dumb big lol

storm jungle
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NOOO

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ITS A NEAT MAP

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😩

meager gale
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i love it

atomic pelican
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at the bottom of this page

meager gale
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but it takes 8 years to load

storm jungle
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lmao

atomic pelican
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There's a map which shows every subfaction and such's location

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and a lore blurb

storm jungle
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thank god GW keeps this handy on their site

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oh wait

atomic pelican
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gigachad cult coverage

storm jungle
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digs through 10000 posts

peak hamlet
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Terrible map, doesnt show hive fleet advancing

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2/10 they tried

atomic pelican
barren tapir
storm jungle
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Realistically spekaing the GSC should have taken over half the galaxy by now

atomic pelican
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Oh they're everywhere

storm jungle
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plot armor stops those genes from spreading

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👁️

atomic pelican
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These are just the major cults

cerulean wagon
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WAIT

atomic pelican
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And some of their lore blurbs even specifically state, for example, 4AE, states they are basically everywhere the imperium is

cerulean wagon
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BAAL IS THAT DEEP INTO THE OTHER SIDE OF THE RIFT

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AND STILL SURVIVED FINE

storm jungle
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YES

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IT HAD UH

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PLOT ARMORIUM

atomic pelican
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LMAO

storm jungle
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courtsy of cawl

atomic pelican
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Blood Angel Plot Armor

storm jungle
peak hamlet
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IKR????? TANKED FUCKING HIVE FLEET LEVIATHAN

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STILL CRYING

atomic pelican
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ultramarines now escape my wrath for the sheer bullshit BA's asspull now

vast kindle
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will of the emperor

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get yours today

peak hamlet
prime kernel
atomic pelican
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Win

barren tapir
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It is because of the nipples on their artificer armours i bet!!

prime kernel
atomic pelican
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Very bottom of the page

prime kernel
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can i get a link please ?

barren tapir
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Anyway, where is baal?

atomic pelican
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For some reason It's not on a separate page

cerulean wagon
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link is above

atomic pelican
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You have to scroll to near the very bottom

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It marks p much every major faction and its subfactions locations

cerulean wagon
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love the fact

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of these main IG worlds

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5 were under siege

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as of rift

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catachan fixed itself cause that planet sucks dick

prime kernel
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wow

barren tapir
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Oh, looks like baal has two really near tomb world too

prime kernel
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Baal is fucked

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their all alone in the galactic north

atomic pelican
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They should be

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But they're fueled by pure Blood Angel plot armor

cerulean wagon
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and mordia got saved by SM randomly ending a really cool storyline

storm jungle
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We should take Baal

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AND PUSH IT SOMEWHERE ELSE

peak hamlet
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God the sizes in 40k are INCREDIBLY fucked

barren tapir
storm jungle
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LMAO

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OF COURSE

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WHO ELSE

cerulean wagon
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its worse dilara

atomic pelican
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the most forgettable chapter too

cerulean wagon
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prior to them turning up

peak hamlet
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Like 1000 marines fuck over trillions of nids, yet most of these systems are big enough to house countless of thousands of subsystems with tons of planets, its insane

cerulean wagon
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it was mordia + ulthwe vs demons

barren tapir
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Like, people who leave their ally to die telling them to be strong or die go to rescue a planet...

cerulean wagon
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WHICH IS SO FUCKING COOL

barren tapir
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Sure, they still leave the majority of it to die because weak, but they decide to mount their last stand on the planet

peak hamlet
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Like if you have systems that big wouldnt it be neat to have maybe just A TAD MORE THAN 1 MILLION MARINES??? YOU COULD PUT EVERY SINGLE ASTARTES IN THE GALAXY ONTO ONE (1) PLANET AND NUKE ALL OF EM

prime kernel
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oh shit

peak hamlet
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GONE

prime kernel
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i didnt magnus got his planet back

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mah boi is back at it.

vast kindle
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ole one eye more like magnus sucks

cerulean wagon
prime kernel
vast kindle
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We got IG and SOB to hold the tide
plus the entire imperial navy

barren tapir
vast kindle
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flashlights in number!

prime kernel
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I DIDNT KNOW KRIEG WAS IN THE GALACTIC SOUTH.

unknown.png
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shit

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caps

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sorry 😦

vast kindle
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yeah they sent krieg to deal with nyds and orccs

barren tapir
vast kindle
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They're Helping team effort and all that

peak hamlet
barren tapir
vast kindle
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I thought space marines are like tactical y'know you only have one queen on a chess board but its still real strong

barren tapir
prime kernel
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oh.....

unknown.png
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oh no

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thats not good

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good to see that the imperial is basicly swiss fucking cheese.

atomic pelican
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good

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Also It's basically always been

peak hamlet
vast kindle
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warp makes distance all wonky

barren tapir
atomic pelican
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The amount of times(Xeno faction or chaos faction of your choice) shows up and just obliterates imperial space because they can't respond in time is

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near uncountable

barren tapir
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Or was it an hell forge?

storm jungle
prime kernel
storm jungle
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oh no [faction] destroyed [planet name]

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ANYWAY

atomic pelican
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Black Heart specifically

storm jungle
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LMAO YEAH

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they just came in to raid and fucked off and didnt do anything

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its amazing

atomic pelican
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That's one of my favorite parts about the Drukhari

prime kernel
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I just realized that the necrons are acting as a shield against the nids.

atomic pelican
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shows up
strips a entire planet + steals their sun
cope imperials, as they leave before the navy even can show up

storm jungle
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god I love them

prime kernel
vast kindle
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nids gonna eat the silent king and become flesh toasters with 10000 iq

atomic pelican
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unlikely

vast kindle
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sadge

atomic pelican
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Nids are professional jobbers

barren tapir
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Living metal is hard to chew though

cerulean wagon
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thats what the acid is for

atomic pelican
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They are, as a entire faction completely replaceable so even the largest amount of swarms can just spawn back in

plush mason
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i mean nids eat metal all the time. hell they even eat oceans

atomic pelican
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So they are p much just used as a "woah! mahrens killed six uadrillion nids?"

vast kindle
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WOW!

atomic pelican
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And yeah nids can digest metals

peak hamlet
prime kernel
atomic pelican
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P much but the zerg are better lmao

prime kernel
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yuuuup

atomic pelican
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+Actually get W's

odd sparrow
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idk tyranids have a better aesthetic

prime kernel
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the zerg have fucking atleast some story.

atomic pelican
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Tyranids have a better aesthetic, Zerg have better fluff

vast kindle
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zerg are cool

peak hamlet
plush mason
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and are way more of a threat than the zerg ever could be

cerulean wagon
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i actually prefer nid lore

prime kernel
vast kindle
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galaxy is smaller in starcraft

cerulean wagon
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"fuck you im going to eat your home and leave"

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its a mood

vast kindle
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I agree

odd sparrow
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plus doesn't do the dumb unknowable alien entity SIKE here's a character that directly humanises them and gives them human motivations

errant mauve
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Tyranids are cooler because they have the og screamer killer

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prime kernel
plush mason
vast kindle
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yeah I guess

cerulean wagon
vast kindle
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shes got high heels which is kinda wierd

peak hamlet
vast kindle
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cus its like chiten

barren tapir
atomic pelican
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Tyranids are in the same problem of old necrons wherein they're just unknowable destroyers with little personality

odd sparrow
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but yeah i hate the whole ~pretty well groomed looking lady subsumed with alien smthn~ trope

atomic pelican
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it's why cults are the better of the two nid factions

plush mason
peak hamlet
odd sparrow
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an actual society

atomic pelican
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Yee

cerulean wagon
prime kernel
odd sparrow
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and not just unknowable death robots, cus u cant write unknowable death robots

cerulean wagon
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a faction doens't need a reason to destroy or some big plan

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they hunger, that is all

prime kernel
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the second we know the secret.

vast kindle
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what you are saying is we should get sick tyranid books

prime kernel
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Their kinda boring

peak hamlet
atomic pelican
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It's boring.

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And already done to death

prime kernel
odd sparrow
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yee, it's a fine gimmick but it does mean that you can't really write anything about them besides using them as a beatstick for other actual factions

prime kernel
peak hamlet
atomic pelican
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Oh boy! Bugs from space which just eat!

cerulean wagon
barren tapir
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I cannot stop to chuckle when people say nids are boring, because to me that sound like they are digging underground lol

atomic pelican
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Truly a thrilling and original concept

cerulean wagon
atomic pelican
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This is why Tiamet is the only hivefleet I like

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They do something unique

barren tapir
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Gardener nids

plush mason
prime kernel
atomic pelican
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Yus

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They make a good antagonist

peak hamlet
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But like adding more lore to the nids (or even dumb stuff like nid diplomats) would kinda make the uninteresting. To me at least

odd sparrow
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40k end times wouldn't be them fucking up tbh

atomic pelican
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It seems they're floating towards making nids more interesting

cerulean wagon
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thats the fun part bobo]

odd sparrow
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it would just be 40k becoming none profitable and them finally swallowing the pill and AoS'ing the setting & boardgame

cerulean wagon
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there used to be nid diplomats

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it activley made them worse

odd sparrow
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so it's no longer a bloated travesty

atomic pelican
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The GSC Codex floats the idea that Tyranids may see GSC as more than just food. + Leviathan gaining emotion(hatred) against Baal

peak hamlet
odd sparrow
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Yee I like the development of nids' motivations

atomic pelican
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A tau scientist specifically floats that idea

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Which is interesting

odd sparrow
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I still don't think we should know them like, through and through, like that one BFG concept

cerulean wagon
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tbh thats not even more interesting, thats stuff i assumed anyway

odd sparrow
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but giving them discernible objectives besides just eat is good

peak hamlet
prime kernel
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im curious, how it will all end.

atomic pelican
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Stay tuned for a few decades to find out

cerulean wagon
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nids are a sentient hive mind, but they hunger and they learn. A greater intelligence lurks within that allows them to learn and adapt

odd sparrow
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in middilingly written novels in however many decades it takes for 40k to stop making money

prime kernel
peak hamlet
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Really depends on gw

vast kindle
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old ones need to sew up the hole the eldar made

atomic pelican
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I'm waiting on the Hivefleet arrives at Terra from the Princes' revolt plot

plush mason
prime kernel
vast kindle
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thought we had 1 left

atomic pelican
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Also the actual ending of the Ynnari plotline whenever that happens in a gajillion years

prime kernel
peak hamlet
cerulean wagon
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👀

atomic pelican
vast kindle
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gulliman off his smaller throne yet?

prime kernel
peak hamlet
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We all know terra is gonna fall last 😔

vast kindle
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the poor kriegs getting sent to the orc nyd convention that the inquisitor made

peak hamlet
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Even tho terra falling first would make an incredibly fun setting

prime kernel
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Besides Terra deserves to go. by by

peak hamlet
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You know like the remaining imperium breaking down into smaller ones and fighting for territory and stuff

prime kernel
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50k

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then 60k

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60k is depressing as fuck

vast kindle
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cant wait for warhammer 100k

prime kernel
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THEY DIDNT FINISH 60K !!! 😦

cerulean wagon
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50 and 60k aren't cannon tho

prime kernel
cerulean wagon
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k

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we are discussing actual lore currently

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so makin sure people are aware

plush mason
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yeah there is no way in hell humanity will make it another 10k years

peak hamlet
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Warhammer 1.000.000...(comically large amound of 0's)

prime kernel
cerulean wagon
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yes discussing actual 40k lore

prime kernel
prime kernel
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pats head

plush mason
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lol

vast kindle
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all 40k lore is just the fever dream of the emperor cus horus actually won all those years ago

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emperor just a family heirloom

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in the basement of terra

plush mason
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lol

vast kindle
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gw gonna hit us with just a far out plot twist and just go dark

prime kernel
vast kindle
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just like and this is my dad

marsh grail
snow tundra
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We all know Horus would have the Emperor's head right on the top of his armor

vast kindle
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replace the big eye of horus with the emperors head

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in like a fish bowl

inner dew
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The chaos-ork-nid hybrids?

signal hill
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That Sounds unsanitary

storm jungle
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Reddit Moment

peak hamlet
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Holy fuck 333 comments on just a statement lmfao

barren tapir
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Uhm

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I bet that it was becoming a bit too heated in there

peak hamlet
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40k lore stans on their way to explain how ppl not wanting to be slaves actually makes them the bad guys

vast frigate
quick zealot
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Can’t help but feel that that description might not be the most fair depiction of what occurs

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Especially considering the type of people that say they’ll be slaves no more typically end up with a funny looking star tattooed to their chest, assuming they haven’t gotten one before the revolution party starts

cerulean wagon
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i mean

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like 80% of revolutions in the imperium have nothing to do with chaos or xenos

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its just the imperium falling apart

odd sparrow
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Ye

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Chaos in general isn't rly as big of a deal throughout the imperium as it's presented imo

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Most traitors aren't chaosy

quick zealot
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Most traitors either die young or get corrupted

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The amount of renegade astartes that don’t end up growing new limbs and other mutations from their new patrons are a pitiful fraction of the total

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The reach of Chaos is incredibly pervasive, to say nothing of xenos subversion from no fewer than 3 separate species

barren tapir
#

The amount of imperial rebellion without chaos is tooo dam high!! To read like the meme

cerulean wagon
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its high cause the imperium doesn't treat its subjects well

quick zealot
#

9 out of 10 rebellions have Chaos, Eldar, Tau, or Tyranids inciting and aiding them

barren tapir
#

It is the inverse

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With some special exception

cerulean wagon
#

eldar don't tend to do anything with rebellions

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its just most stories cover the external influence on the imperium covering it because people want to read about factions interacting

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as far as GW is aware no one cares for random no name rebellions (they do but thats their loss)

barren tapir
#

I do indeed, and i have some fav too

quick zealot
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Eldar incite whatever they believe will cover their asses

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Including redirecting whole WAAAGHs

barren tapir
#

Anyone ever heard of the fourth quadrant thousand rebellions? Or the susalid campaign?

cerulean wagon
#

i'm a fan of the severan uprising

barren tapir
#

That was less an uprising and more a secession though

quick zealot
#

The Fourth Quadrant was a mess of Xenos, heretics, and mutants

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An Inquisitorial field day

barren tapir
#

I understand that i might be a bit picky on terms and words, but eh

barren tapir
quick zealot
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Plus a singular fallen Dark Angel

cerulean wagon
#

secession is its own form of uprising tbf

barren tapir
#

And you are way too much generalizing it

storm jungle
storm jungle
quick zealot
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Those are just examples of their actions

storm jungle
#

the entire reason Imperial worlds start rebellions as skelly said is because its a shit system

barren tapir
#

Fourth quadrant was an entire mess, that is true, with some chaos and even xenos stuff, but the majority of it was plain imperial rebels without external help

storm jungle
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Chaos usually has nothing to do with

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even when it does its because people dont wanna read random rebellions without a faction behin dit most of the time

odd sparrow
quick zealot
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Chaos is usually the match that sets off rebellions

storm jungle
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Its just a more overexposed book thing

odd sparrow
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Cus nobody wants to write the nobody's rebellion of random peasants

storm jungle
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YEP.

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Like it would make for an engaging thing but factions have to be behind something most of the time.

odd sparrow
#

Ofc ultimately it's all up to ur interpretation of the setting but that's how I rationalise it

barren tapir
#

And tbf chaos in the fourth quadrant rebellions was just an opportunistic player

quick zealot
#

A faction that literally preys on the dark thoughts within a person's soul has no issue with kicking off rebellions where hatred, desire for change, plain desire, and the complete lack of hope fester

storm jungle
#

Again

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Its not all chaos.

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I get that you like the faction but they arent behind everything

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they just hog the spotlight too much since they're the Badder Guys as antagonists

quick zealot
#

I really don't like Chaost in their current state

cerulean wagon
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its pretty great

odd sparrow
#

Yee I dislike the chaos is literally everywhere vibes

odd sparrow
quick zealot
#

But they're an utterly pervasive threat because their sway is galactic

storm jungle
#

Kinda

cerulean wagon
#

eh their sway is galactic but patchy

storm jungle
#

chaos' power is too overplayed

odd sparrow
#

Sure, they'll have cults on virtually every world

barren tapir
storm jungle
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Sometimes they are an intergalactic threat sometimes they act like literal children.

cerulean wagon
#

same as how the imperium "owns large swathes of space" but its actually just disjointed clusters

storm jungle
#

Its inconsistent.

odd sparrow
#

But those cults won't be behind every rebellion

storm jungle
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Yeah pretty much

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as much as GW fails to show it the Emperor himself has said the Imperium shall be a failing empire

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its not just chaos, it is its own worst enemy

cerulean wagon
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Its why i love the RPGs van, they do a great job of making places that are believable

barren tapir
cerulean wagon
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its not just "so ye everything was chaos"

barren tapir
#

These bad boys!!

quick zealot
#

The RPGs are a blast

storm jungle
#

its lazy

quick zealot
#

FFG shamelessly loves the AdMech, and as a result there is a bunch of kickass AdMech toys

barren tapir
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FFG had to make stuff dor the Ad. Mech. alone since GW didn't cared

quick zealot
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Like Powered Carapace armor and Metal Jump Pack Wings that give a fear rating

barren tapir
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I would even say that it was because of FFG that many wanted Ad. Mech. developed and we got it with new skitarii

quick zealot
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And Integrated Weapons like the Lathe Lasgun

cerulean wagon
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FFG loved all of the factions, its kinda great

barren tapir
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Also the crimson guard armour, that was really nice

cerulean wagon
#

the avatar of khaine has a 2 page spread of lore and stats in Rogue Trader

quick zealot
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It's very nasty

barren tapir
#

The guard got finally all the spotlight it deserve

quick zealot
#

Although I'm more afraid of Tau battlesuits and meganobs, because those things can move in groups

barren tapir
#

Damn, how much i wish for more Only War style TTRPG but with more factions

final spruce
#

Just grab OW and put adapt it a bit with the RT rules

quick zealot
#

Just use Rogue Trader honestly

final spruce
#

Since RT has Eldar Drukharis, Orks , Kroots, Taus

barren tapir
#

I mean, i think i even got Ad. Mech. fan made rules

quick zealot
#

Maybe borrow requisition rules from another FFG 40k RPG

final spruce
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Nah After playing DH2 and OW , I do not wish to play RT anymore

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Rules wose

quick zealot
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But playable orks

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I prefer Black Crusade

barren tapir
#

And my problem is also with lacking people and stability to play with

quick zealot
#

Honestly, the amount of freedom it provides players is second to none

cerulean wagon
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I run OW and DH2 using the races and rules from the older RPGs

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cause they can be converted across

eternal ledge
storm jungle
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Kinda false

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40k rpg's also got big titty women bait in it lmao

barren tapir
storm jungle
#

also half the old rogue trader covers having full-sails-forward cleavages of female characters too

quick zealot
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Yeah, but those women can still disembowel you for so much as looking at their "assets"

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Rogue Trader has some great art

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Dripped out of their minds

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If your astropaths aren't sporting bionic eyes, then you're doing it wrong

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I actually rolled up a set of carapace armor recently after my previous set (and several vital organs) were destroyed in a bombing incident because one the Tech Priests on board stared too long into the abyss

cerulean wagon
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astropaths don't need eyes tho

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sicne they can see anyway

quick zealot
#

It's not about necessity

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It's about showcasing excessive wealth

#

Hire yourself a Jokaero, wait for him to finally reduce that Demolisher Cannon by a size category so it can be man portable

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Not because you even need such a weapon

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But because the message it sends will be talked about at every ball you attend

vast frigate
#

BIGGEST BAD!!!!!!!!111!!!!!11!!!!@!@!!!!

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WHY ELSE WOULD GEEDOUBLEUW CENTER THEIR BOXES AROUND IMPERIUM VEROES KJHAOS

potent swift
#

My copy of Twice-Dead King: Reign just arrived in the mail, today is a good day

errant mauve
#

You're right

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Chaos isn't the big bad

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It's the big good

rose thorn
#

Chaos is the big chad

vast frigate
upbeat arch
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Does baal have any tactical significance in the scope of the imperium?

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Im thinkin about how hard they fought to defend it but like….

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Why

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That place is a shithole

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Was it just a matter of pride?

storm jungle
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Pretty much

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its a Founding Legion's homeworld

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you cant exactly just give up and not defend it

storm jungle
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aka if your planet wasnt a shithole people would fight tooth and nail for it

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for example its the same reason why the Ultramarines are so protective of Macragge, its literally their home

plush mason
#

wtf is wrong with baal anyway?

storm jungle
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Its just a red desert planet

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filled with hostile wildlife and even the water wants to kill you

plush mason
#

so its a death world

storm jungle
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it was also once a verdant world before it got nuked during a civil war

plush mason
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lol

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typical

storm jungle
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looks at us now

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Pretty much.

plush mason
#

krieg was almost a paradise world before it's civil war

storm jungle
final spruce
#

In short Baal has replaced Cadia

plush mason
#

what is it with SMs and recruiting from death worlds?

final spruce
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Hardy recruits

plush mason
#

fair

storm jungle
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Eh kind of

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its mostly to be edgy

final spruce
#

But not all chapters do that

storm jungle
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Yeee

#

realistically speaking harsher upbringings have nothing to do with it

final spruce
#

Dilara did mention Ultras and they mostly recruit normal people

storm jungle
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you can make an elite fighter out of anyone with the right training regimen

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its mostly just because Deathworld recruiting is a 40k schtick they took from Dune so its why its around

plush mason
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and or brainwashing

final spruce
#

Brainwashing and endoctrination are the 40k trademark

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Looks at Custodes

barren tapir
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SM like hard places from where recruit because they think that it will give them better genetic pool from which take recruits... Also the fact that they think that a born killer from those place will be harder to kill from virus... Not really true, but eh whatever

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Many SM have feudal worlds or death worlds as recruiting ground, while other have more civilised place

storm jungle
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Yeah basically what blank said too

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its mostly to show the Imperium being ignorant

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well that and not a lot of people would enjoy reading that every Marine takes recruits from normal worlds with nothing on them lmao

plush mason
barren tapir
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Also very backward places fall more in line when some very big guy come from the sky and demand stuff

storm jungle
#

^

barren tapir
#

Hive worlds are also an appreciated recruiting ground for SM, again, because the life on the underhive is very similar to a death world

plush mason
#

like the cities of necromunda for the imperial fists

final spruce
#

I know IF do recruit from Terra aswell

plush mason
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yeah but terra doesnt have a tt game lol

barren tapir
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Yup and yup

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It was the IF that named necromunda necromunda

plush mason
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yeah after the system told the imperium it could become their vassle lol

barren tapir
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After they got their asses slapped hard from a fleet of unknown xenos that destroyed most of the system and the planet

plush mason
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that too

barren tapir
#

Necro (dead or of the dead) munda (weird latin term for world)

plush mason
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yup

barren tapir
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IF1: "you, what was the name that the people we killed called their world?
IF2: "no idea bro, i was killing them, not listening to them"
IF1: "ok, so what do we call it now?"
IF2: Looks left and right surrounded by dead bodies "uhm... World of the dead?"
IF1: "you MF, you nailed it!"

plush mason
#

i still laugh thinking about the fact that the IF are a part of necromunda's tt mechanics lol

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just the mental image of some random giant yellow man watching gangers fight and then going into the fray and yoinking the best preforming ones from the battle is funny to me

chrome dragon
#

Underhive wars are just Imperial Fist recruitment campaigns

plush mason
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lol

upbeat arch
storm jungle
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Yeah they were actually losing the battle too before the Rift snapped open

cerulean wagon
#

its so far away from the great rift

plush mason
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then how was it hit by it opening?

barren tapir
#

New cadia is vigilus

cerulean wagon
barren tapir
cerulean wagon
#

The great rift doesn't hit anywhere particular, psychic stuff is just sort of happening

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pluss Baals issue was nids, not demons

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infact the demons appeared and saved baal later

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because jesus fucking christ who wrote this garbage

final spruce
cerulean wagon
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oh that?

barren tapir
cerulean wagon
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na see

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anyone can just cross the rift

final spruce
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I know but its dangerous

cerulean wagon
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aparently not seeing as all the places on the other side of the rift have now received relief forces

final spruce
#

And no Astronomicon

cerulean wagon
#

except maybe valhalla?

plush mason
#

are those 2 smaller rifts at the north and south?

cerulean wagon
barren tapir
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Theoretically speaking the only way to cross the rift is via the nachmund gauntlet, which is ablaze with stuff, but it seems that it is not prob for the imperium... Lore wise the only guys who can cross the rift freely are the tau lol

cerulean wagon
#

its supposed to be nachmund yes

chrome dragon
cerulean wagon
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but guilliman has now freely crossed it like 3 times

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and then the iron hands have also crossed it free of issue

cerulean wagon
chrome dragon
#

Wrong one

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The one closer to the eye of terror

plush mason
chrome dragon
#

@cerulean wagon

plush mason
#

i cant unsee that now

chrome dragon
#

Yeah the Salamanders

cerulean wagon
#

oh that one

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ye

chrome dragon
#

The real reason Vulcan went insane

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He noticed what his chapters logo really was

plush mason
#

lol

plush mason
#

so whats the lore on the godslayer demon prince?

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if anyone knows it

quick zealot
plush mason
#

lol

quick zealot
# plush mason what is it with SMs and recruiting from death worlds?

Besides the evolutionary pressures weeding out genetic traits that aren't favorable among recruits, Death Worlds double as excellent training grounds, and very seldom offer other resources that can be taken as a tithe anyways because of a lack of industry or agriculture

vast frigate
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so im working on the lore for my techpriest cosplay

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a follower of the arc-cult, the same that houses the workers of the Electro mancers and the taser fanatics,

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Im thinking of wrapping two tubes in coils/leds to simulate the arc coils and mount them to my backpack, as well as making a custom arc rifle.
The arc coils on the backpack are supposed to accelerate allied firepower, by charging the barrels of ballistics and reloading the batteries of energy weapons

quick zealot
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What material are you using on the coils?

vast frigate
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probably lighter grade PVC pipe

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since the backpack will be acting as a counterweight to my chestplate and therefore be framed in heavier PVC

quick zealot
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Nice

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Are you doing any wiring on it for looks? If so I think the tubes that are used on vacuum cleaners might actually be a good representation of the cable coverings, based off the models we have

vast frigate
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might do so, ive gotta look to the base of the shape ill build for it before i actually make a choice on how ill actually build it

rose thorn
#

Lmao House Mamaragon is amazing

They have special knights that can be used under water and constantly make fun of people who live on land

past glade
#

so... if darktide is going to be vermintide 40k edition... what specials, elites, and monsters do you expect to see with the current faction of 'chaos cultists'

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specials i expect; heavy stubber guy, flamer guy and sniper guy

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elites i expect; plasma guy, gang leader, and berzerker

#

monsters i expect; chaos spawn and possibly a chaos marine

still atlas
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aspiring champion, I'd wager, with possibility of becoming a spawn perhaps. daemonic poxwalkers as big melee guys, hordes of nurglings to be sneaky mobbers. could see a plague marine as a boss character, sort of like a storm fiend, but instead of flamethrowers it's blight grenades

final spruce
#

To be honest, I'd prefer if there were no csm in this game

still atlas
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hah, I could see a take on the loot rat where it's a slaaneshi cultist hoarding items, or a daemonette. could be interesting if they made it dangerous enough that nurgle worshippers want to kill them too--they die to enemy actions, you lose loot, or on higher difficulties more enemies can spawn to celebrate a victory for papa nurgle

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if csms get involved at all, they would HAVE to be a major boss fight, nothing less

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leastaways imo, God knows I ain't making the game, lol

#

oh man I just had a thought

scenic bolt
#

or a chaos ratling

still atlas
#

gutter runner equivalent: beast of nurgle

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they sprint and jump to pounce things, but they're like super friendly dogs, tackling things to the ground to lick and slobber all over their face. they just don't realize they are filled with nurgle's rot and their drool is caustic.

vast kindle
#

good boys

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but they bad boys ;-;

still atlas
#

instead of whispers and jeers for hordes to distract, you hear gleeful, frantic barking and panting, with clicking claws mixed with slithering mucus and tentacles

scenic bolt
#

the gutter runner's prolly gonna be the hounds of xaphan that were in the trailer

still atlas
#

cue the ogryn sadly bemoaning having to put them down, with an ig little'un reassuring or the inquisitor being all fiery about how they're bad doggies

plush mason
#

i thought that was some kind of damn fleshhound or something

scenic bolt
#

its from a model that was for lost and the damned, fairly limited print, and currently OOP

#

FW model

plush mason
#

oh

final spruce
#

Wait that's exactly how they look

scenic bolt
#

yea

final spruce
#

Damn I've been searching what they were for a while

#

Time to edit the Steam post

plush mason
#

yeah that is exactlly the same beast in the trailer

final spruce
#

Ty very much Vet

plush mason
#

oh martyr had those things to

final spruce
scenic bolt
#

I only remember this from the convo sparked from the trailer discussion last year

#

people were doing a rundown on what all the stuff in the trailer was

#

like honestly for as limited as lost and the damned was, a lot of the stuff in the game trailer was from that line

cerulean wagon
#

ye cause LatD is the only like, none marine lore that exists with physical 3d models to work with

#

hope they do some of their own stuff as well, but its cool seeing it

scenic bolt
#

if gw had the gumption they couldve fleshed it out as its own faction, but it sorta seems like the baddie human chaff army went to gsc instead

potent swift
#

Tbf, GSC is pretty great though

odd sparrow
#

,,, huh that does line up surprisingly well

cerulean wagon
#

ye it was discussed a while back

#

theres a bunch of old hound creatures

shadow igloo
#

Hey so I looked at the trailer and what is the big guy meant to be?

#

Like why is a guardsmen with this big ass dude

cunning wigeon
#

you mean the ogryn?

chrome dragon
#

He is retard strength

cunning wigeon
#

not too big on 40k lore but fairly certain its just a mutated human thats alot stronger, bigger and robust but equally as dumb

chrome dragon
#

They lived on high gravity words

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Which were death worlds on steroids

#

So they evolved for 1000s of years to survive the harsh environment

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Which meant they got stronger and dumber

cunning wigeon
#

the guard like using them as shock troops due to their stature

#

and they are easy to manage as they arent much smarter than children usually

#

right?

chrome dragon
#

They are scared of getting into troop carriers

#

Yeah

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Commissar is their baby sitter

cunning wigeon
chrome dragon
#

They have claustrophobia

#

So you can only fill half of it with ogryn

cunning wigeon
#

oh okay

chrome dragon
#

Balance reasons im guessing

#

Imagine if you just had troop carriers transport full squads of ogryn to the frontlines

shadow igloo
#

Ohhhh I was told he was a failed space marine

#

Thank you for the info!

storm jungle
#

@shadow igloo The lexicaum is your friend buddy

#

you wont find a simpler condensed form of 40k lore anywhere else lul

final spruce
#

Ogryn my beloved

plush mason
#

so just how advanced are most knight worlds?

#

tech and culture wise

storm jungle
#

During the Age of Strife, these worlds were cut off from the rest of the realm of man by warp storms, but were often well-placed to avoid the conflict of that age due to their martial traditions and conservative outlook. During this long isolation, the Knight worlds tended towards feudalism, with a hierarchy of nobility controlling both the Knight suits and the worlds themselves.[1c]

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Pretty much purely feudal or Techno-feudal

#

not much goes into it

plush mason
#

so a 40 foot tall mech stomping up to some medival huts and demapnding their taxes would not be an uncommon sight?

storm jungle
#

Nah

#

remember that if you grew up in a feudal life but still saw giant mechs everywhere you'd get used to it

#

its how humans work

plush mason
#

true

snow tundra
#

Basically just real life knights

storm jungle
#

Lmao yep

#

just in robot suits

snow tundra
#

Except the armor got a lot lot bigger

#

I like how freeblades are pretty much just ronin mercenaries

plush mason
#

how do knights pilot their suits anyway?

cerulean wagon
#

steering wheel

storm jungle
#

Neural connection and buttons

snow tundra
#

Lmao

storm jungle
#

i wouldnt be surprised if some had wheels tho KEK

snow tundra
plush mason
storm jungle
#

40k navy ships?

plush mason
#

yup

storm jungle
#

Ah yep they are

#

since the Imperial navy is heavily stylized after the mid century ships

snow tundra
#

That reminds me, I need to play battlefleet Gothic armada 2

storm jungle
#

hence why they still ram stuff

final spruce
#

^

storm jungle
#

or use broadsides

snow tundra
#

For the longest time I didn't even know it was a 40k game

storm jungle
#

Oof id say watch Mandalore's review first

#

the gameplay is legit hit and a miss and depends on the person

#

if you dont wanna play it ABSOLUTELY watch its cutscenes

#

they are spectacular

snow tundra
#

I've read a lot of reviews

#

I would like to play it

#

I love love love Imperial ship designs

cerulean wagon
#

keep finding this RT group whenever i look at 40k art

snow tundra
#

Fortress monasteries are badass

cerulean wagon
#

still love em

storm jungle
storm jungle
snow tundra
#

Apparently it has necrons and tau too which should be interesting

#

Considering the only like actual air unit the Necrons have is the scythe

storm jungle
#

Ah no they got other ships

#

its just that half of them are literally the same chassis but bigger

#

1 sec

cerulean wagon
#

its based off the old gothic armada tabletop

#

which had necron ships n stuff

snow tundra
#

Ah I didn't know that

storm jungle
cerulean wagon
storm jungle
#

god lmao

cerulean wagon
#

angry croissant noises

plush mason
cerulean wagon
#

probably not

plush mason
#

i mean if the balance was bad enough it would hurt sales

cerulean wagon
#

it was discontinued, but more likely its because it stopped making money due to popularity, far as im aware the people who played it liked it well enough tho

snow tundra
#

I see the Necrons like a very specific design lmao

final spruce
storm jungle
#

they got the short end of the stick

snow tundra
#

Were the tau ships good?

plush mason
scenic bolt
#

theyre like the tau

#

pew

storm jungle
snow tundra
#

I mean like, cool

plush mason
snow tundra
#

Orbital city 👀

#

Poor Tau, they will forever sit unpainted

cerulean wagon
snow tundra
#

I bought a bunch of Tau and painted one model before I inexplicably just lost interest in the faction

cerulean wagon
#

honestly its comfy looking at BFG tables

snow tundra
#

I bet painted a fortress monestary was an absolute pain the ass

#

So many tiny cathedrals and shit

plush mason
#

which is bigger a battlebardge or an imperial battleship?

barren tapir
#

Yo, a little TLDR of what you are chatting about?

cerulean wagon
#

battlefleet gothic tabletop

cerulean wagon
plush mason
#

got ya

storm jungle
#

@plush mason 1 sec fam i got u

cerulean wagon
#

Also general rule of thumb is any other imperial faction has better vehicles than SM do, but SM get a lot more spotlight of theirs winning

storm jungle
#

ENJOY SCROLLING DOWN THIS

snow tundra
#

I cannot read the ship names

storm jungle
#

Gotta open it in tabs!

cerulean wagon
barren tapir
#

Battle barges are also a class of imperial battleship, just different name to indicate them... Oh, and they are more about planetary invasion than space battles

snow tundra
storm jungle
#

right click + open link

snow tundra
#

got it

storm jungle
#

should open a page for you on a google tab

cerulean wagon
#

man

#

this convo today has made me start planning 2 new campaigns

#

😩

storm jungle
#

lmao

#

🛳️

cerulean wagon
#

boat campaign and Lancer style imperial knight campaign

plush mason
#

as with any sci fi the navy is a big and important part of the setting

#

cant counqour the stars without ships

storm jungle
cerulean wagon
#

yup

#

its why i love the 40k rpgs

snow tundra
#

why does 40k have to be such a good universe 😩

#

I can't get enough of it

cerulean wagon
#

that image above dilara posted is a condensed list of art and sizes from Rogue Trader

#

which had entire books dedicated to taking a ship hull and customizing it

final spruce
#

The old 40k rpgs are full of love

#

After playing both gens I prefer the second but the first I still OG material and very solid

storm jungle
final spruce
#

Unique

snow tundra
#

No don't speak such heresy

final spruce
storm jungle
#

IM BEING NICE ZHER

cerulean wagon
#

The setting is great, its the main lore that isn't

storm jungle
#

lmao

cerulean wagon
snow tundra
#

I like the lore

final spruce
snow tundra
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I like the lore that is written well

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OKAY

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now this is a smart man

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Well sadly its a part where you gotta dig through alot oft rash in 40k

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When its written well its amazing, cherish the bits you enjoy and ignore anything else

snow tundra
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But I also like primaris

final spruce
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Especially if you wanna read books

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the setting is large enough you can pretend primaris aren't real

final spruce
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Gotta avoid all the SM wank bolter porn books released every 2 weeks

snow tundra
plush mason
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kekw

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This is the path you must follow with 40k:

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barren tapir
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Dan abnett books are a great start imo

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literaly the only thing to kill primaris en masse so far is just bigger golder marines

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barren tapir
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Also some Ad. Mech. books are really great imo, but the older ones are clearly not so connected with the current lore of the Ad. Mech.

snow tundra
plush mason
final spruce
cerulean wagon
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Also currently blood angels take the cake for plot armour, outranking even UM

final spruce
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Blood angels are the new UMs now

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Kek

plush mason
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lol

barren tapir
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Zher and Skele are one the same wave

snow tundra
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I just want to see any other damn chapter in a video game that isnt UM or Blood Angels / Ravens

final spruce
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No, that's just because its true

barren tapir
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No, soon you will be able to complete each other phrases admit it!

final spruce
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Nah Skelly and I are the literal opposite

plush mason
final spruce
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The Ying and Yang of Ig fan

barren tapir
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Ah i see

snow tundra
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yeah but they're pretty much the same as the blood angels who you follow in Battlesector

plush mason
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fair

storm jungle
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Yeah thats another problem with 40k you dont notice at first

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its cool and all as a setting

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then you realise even as the Imperium the marines hog everything

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snow tundra
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yeah but marines are the best part

plush mason
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no

snow tundra
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I just want chapters to be represented that are like, cool

cerulean wagon
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unfortunatley that requires them to be cool in the first place

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DAMN

snow tundra
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this game had space wolves, so that was nice

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the curse of any and all main line SM chapters

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