#40k-lore-chat

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storm jungle
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if you swapped places with him and Magnus in an alternate timeline IRL i doubt anyone would notice

rose thorn
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tbh

vast frigate
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What do they do

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Skin surgery?

storm jungle
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Basically psycho good guys

rose thorn
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they are just, nightlords

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yeah

vast frigate
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Noo

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Stop

storm jungle
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I like it that way ngl

vast frigate
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Noooooo

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I want them to be literal space lawyers lmao

rose thorn
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the entire appeal of nighlords is that they are space badnit phycos

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and now they just

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space phycos

storm jungle
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its the perfect example of how a few change of words can make a legion loyalist, same as how flesh tearers are psychopaths yet are SOMEHOW still officially loyal because muh blood angels

vast frigate
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Lawyers are psychos too

rose thorn
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ALSO BLOOD ANGELS FOLLOW NURGLE AND I KINDA LOVE IT

vast frigate
storm jungle
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wait WHAT

rose thorn
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wait wrong one

vast frigate
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Gotta infect your hemoglobbers

rose thorn
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it kinda

storm jungle
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jesus christ

rose thorn
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relaly really fits

storm jungle
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they got fucked

vast frigate
rose thorn
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yeah

vast frigate
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What do they suffer now, the green light and the black tire?

storm jungle
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will admit i think they got the nurgle deal mostly because Russ already fits the khorne archetype, hence why the writers probably tried to choose another legion to replace that slot

rose thorn
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I believe the bloodangels dont havbe the thirst anymore because a deal with nurgle

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little did they know

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making a deal with nurgle is the wrost thing possible

storm jungle
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lmao

vast frigate
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they got the brown sickness from it

storm jungle
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Morty Moment™️

vast frigate
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But like

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If youre murderfucking the lore to be better

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You can lose multiple people to one god

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I dont see why sangui cant fall to slaanesh as well

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Hes beauty in khornate

storm jungle
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Yeah

rose thorn
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also raven guard follow Tzeetch

storm jungle
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because birb

rose thorn
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yeah

vast frigate
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No surprises there

storm jungle
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damn it

rose thorn
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i think thats literally the onlyr eason

storm jungle
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LOL yep

vast frigate
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Stealthops

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Tzeentch does still do sneaky beaky

storm jungle
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as usual suffers from = "how can we change this legion when they're designed from the ground up to be loyal"

rose thorn
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just, why would tzeetch choose them? that feels kinda like a bad pick

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honestly tzeetch Salamanders would have been agood pick

vast frigate
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What if

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Wolvex

rose thorn
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tzeetch already likes fire

vast frigate
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Space wolves, but good

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Space cats

rose thorn
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god

vast frigate
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For the Litter box!

rose thorn
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i fucking love hoe the IP are just

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yellow

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chaos

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no difference

vast frigate
rose thorn
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just stock chaos but yellow

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I FORGOT DARKANGELS WERE A THING

vast frigate
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Ohnk

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Who do they serve

rose thorn
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ok let me read them

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they are just

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these are waht the traitors look like

vast frigate
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The fallen

rose thorn
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i think its literally the same as HH

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ok so

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lion was curious in chaos

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and dorian did a tatical strike on his ass

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apparently in DH lion was like

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the weird kid no one liked

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except Dorn

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so dorn flanked him and was like 'hey, wanna fuck over the emps' and he agreed

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then his entire legion got into a civil war

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OHH THE SALAMANDERS ARE FOLLOWING A MINOR CHAOS GOD

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Malal

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WHOS A FUCKING DRAGON

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THAT EXPLAINS

signal hill
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A minor Chaos god a Dragon, a cthan a Dragon
Some people at GW seem to think that dragons need to be evil

vast frigate
fervent prawn
eternal ledge
signal hill
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I know, poor dragons

atomic pelican
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The dragons of AoS are all good

storm jungle
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they dont have broken spines

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so thats one upside

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🐉

cunning wigeon
crisp heath
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I hope Sylvaneth would get Asrai and Forest Dragon

atomic pelican
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Ope

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Forgot abt fw models

cunning wigeon
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Only remembered it because it's like the one good fw AoS model

atomic pelican
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AoS has a oddity where most of its model are pretty except the few FW models it has

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Near opposite of 40k

cunning wigeon
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Are there any GSC fw models?

atomic pelican
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Nah

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Thankfully not

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Theyre rather new so thats probably why

cunning wigeon
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Oh yeah true, how old are they?

atomic pelican
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2017 Is when their first codex came out

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Youngest xeno army I think

cunning wigeon
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Damn, younger than I thought alright

crisp heath
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2017 for GSC ?

atomic pelican
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Yes

crisp heath
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Almost like AdMech

atomic pelican
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They existed in fluff before then. But 2017 established what they are now and their army

cunning wigeon
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Bought my first 40K models with the GSC collection

atomic pelican
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Pog

crisp heath
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GSC are good

cunning wigeon
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Probably painting them rusted claw colours

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Mad Max

atomic pelican
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Good taste

cunning wigeon
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Not a fan of all the bright blues

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Warm colours seem nice on them though

crisp heath
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If i take some...
Black, yellow, Red, violet and.... bronze

cunning wigeon
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Plus Rusted Claw sound like one of the more badass clans from what I read, them and the four arned emperor

atomic pelican
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Theyre all p good but Rusted Claw def rlly cool for nomadic biker gang vibes

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Also their trait focuses on jackals which makes them rlly fun

cunning wigeon
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yeah i saw that and the jackals are easily my favourite looking models for the GSC

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the wormlings just sounded depressing af

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and i dont really get the appeal of the pauper princes

atomic pelican
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Big focus on characters p much

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Also they hate ratlings which is p funny

cunning wigeon
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yeah because one of their leaders got headshot right?

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the whole thing with initiates putting their fingers in the hole

atomic pelican
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A ratling sniper tried to kill their patriarch and a magus mr presidented the shot

cunning wigeon
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i love the sub-title of the twisted helix too - "they who swallowed the bitterest pill"

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sounds straight out of the matrix

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do we know which cult is the one established on Terra with the new shadow throne stuff?

barren tapir
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Pauper princes iirc

cunning wigeon
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oh really? thought it would have been the hivecult given how close they are to terra

barren tapir
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AH! That would have required GW to know, and remember, their lore

cunning wigeon
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very true

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hadnt considered that

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also out of curiosity is it fanon or canon that the tyranids are fleeing something?

cerulean wagon
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fanon

storm jungle
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It was gonna be canon

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but BFG3 didnt happen

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but this is big leak stuff so KEK

cunning wigeon
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woah big acronym, sorry what does that stand for?

storm jungle
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Battlefleet Gothic 3

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basically they were gonna introduce a new race through the game

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but uh

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GW said the studio had to finance the game themselves

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so they just kinda gave up and never did it

cunning wigeon
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wait, gw was going to reveal a new race, for their own brand, through a developers game that they expected to pay fully out of their own pocket?

storm jungle
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Yep!

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But like i said it got too hectic so hence why it was scrapped entirely

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I know because I'm friends with one of the devs

cerulean wagon
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honestly doesnt surprise me the devs dropped it, i kinda like the games but they got like no support

barren tapir
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You are one of the devs Dil!

cunning wigeon
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that sounds so overwhelmingly bullshit on gw

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wtf

storm jungle
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The aliens were basically gonna be their masters and the Nids were just loose bio organic weapons

atomic pelican
storm jungle
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I'll delete these later tho KEK

storm jungle
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Yeah

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like

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what did we expect from GW

cunning wigeon
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please tell me they werent another humanoid alien at least?

cerulean wagon
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we gonna go back to those lizard people being a nid slave race as well?

storm jungle
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almost humanoid?

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like the guy didnt obviously show me everything because nondisclosure stuff

atomic pelican
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Bit cringe innit

storm jungle
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and im just a rando on discord

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lmao

cunning wigeon
atomic pelican
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Yeeee

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They spread through a mining company

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So theyre a bit more everywhere than the other major cults

cunning wigeon
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yeah, helps that they are also incredibly covert even by cult standards right? with barely anyone in their cult being exposed to society at large

atomic pelican
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Yee

cunning wigeon
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the only big cult i know nothing about is the Glatchian Dynasty

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dont think they were mentioned in the codex

atomic pelican
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Not @ my codex rn so im unsure. Not a major cult of the codex tho

cunning wigeon
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yeah thats what i noticed, not mentioned in the codex but put on the map in the codex

rose thorn
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anyone have alist of in universe imperium meat companies?

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the only thing i can find are just grox burgers lmao

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actually, how fast are grox anyway?

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i wouldnt think very fast

odd sparrow
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Prolly not, they're meant to be like rugged cows

barren tapir
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They are big lizards, know to be quite aggressive... Now i didn't had much to do with cows, but that doesn't sound like cows to me

errant mauve
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Though nowadays, not so much

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Considering most of them are either lobotomized or sedated 24/7 with drugs

odd sparrow
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yee would figure they'd get livestock hampered p badly

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SELECTIVE BREEDING, SON

barren tapir
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They attack eachother

rose thorn
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damn

barren tapir
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That is why they get lobotomized

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While those used for reproduction are drugged

rose thorn
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i was thinking my innerwrym army, the bikers could be ridding grox, or maybe they infected their grox by feeding them infected meat and ride them like that

proper helm
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They are balls of rage and spite that are unique for every part of the body being at least vaguely edible

rose thorn
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or their bikes are used for herding

barren tapir
barren tapir
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Grox meat itself is also extremely palatable and nutritious

rose thorn
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yeah, they mainly infect meat and crap, but when they do an uprising on a meat processing planet they stole some grox and infected them because it would be harder to get bikes on the planet

barren tapir
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You don't know for what they use them do you?

rose thorn
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well that show i would flavor it

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yeah they are for eating

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i know

barren tapir
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Nope

rose thorn
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grox?

barren tapir
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I mean the innerwyrm

rose thorn
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OH yea h i know

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they jsut infect meat and crap

barren tapir
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Nope

rose thorn
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the genestealer cult?

barren tapir
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Yes

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They

final spruce
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Oh we talking GSC ?

barren tapir
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||The Cult is known to have spread its influence to other worlds by exporting Grox from the Agri-World of Peregrim's World with Genestealers hidden inside.||

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Read it if you want to know what the innerwyrm do with grox

barren tapir
rose thorn
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oh lmao

final spruce
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Yeah GSC have a lot of ways to spread their infection

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They sometimes poison water supplies aswell

barren tapir
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We discussed it before, it was me, Skele and Proud

final spruce
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Yeah I remember seeing that conv

crisp heath
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Love the Genestealer cult, and join them ❤️

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Please

barren tapir
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Eeehhh, no thanks

rose thorn
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i just imagine a meat processing planet, vibing, chillin, sudden 'yo this meat is loookin wierd' and 'hey ryan, why are you wearing chunks of flesh' than boom uprising

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tbh genestealer stealer cults are the only xenos army i like

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orks are too, eh, and the other ones are too advance for my taste

crisp heath
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Why Van Saar ?

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Tau, Eldars and GSC ❤️

final spruce
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GSC are neat

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They are xeno guardsmen

rose thorn
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i honestly dontlike meat, but i adore the innerwyrm, ulta bloodied and violent,

barren tapir
rose thorn
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just pure food horro

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r

barren tapir
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And the things they have in front too

plucky moth
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screw it

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joining the cult

rose thorn
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Culttide

crisp heath
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😳 Yes Mother

rose thorn
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someonedraw stewie griffin as a Genestealer cultist

barren tapir
plucky moth
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free hugs gang

eternal ledge
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No lie I love the lore of the Twisted Helix. Sneaking in the "kiss" via medicine.

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Also in game the boost to strength makes my Aberents ridiculous

atomic pelican
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Oh yes

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It's so much fun

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Honestly my favorite thing I've discovered lately is the Hulk Magus

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Their staff gives them a +3 strength

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I ran a magus and a acolyte iconward with the Icon of the Cult Ascendant

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And got him to like, 7 strength then casted Might From Beyond on himself for 8

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He beat a venom to death

final spruce
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He's been lifting and eating his eggs

atomic pelican
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Alternatively, if you ran a twisted helix magus with the same setup, you can get the free +1 S, then with Cult Magus cast both Mutagenic Deviation on target then Might on himself

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Then get a acolyte iconward near him for a s9 magus who gets a +1 to wound

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Is it effective? probably not, no

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is it really fucking funny?

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Yes

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My magus solo'd a entire group of incubi in that game after beating their venom to death

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Alternatively, instead of helix, you could run Rusted Claw beatdown magus and give him the Metallophagic staff

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Incubi vs a single magus armed with his clubbing staff

final spruce
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Damn

atomic pelican
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Should you stuff all of this on a character with 4 wounds who could very well be shot to death by anything if he's outpositioned(or the enemy just has a sniper)?

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Absolutely not

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will it stop me?

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no

final spruce
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Wish I could do something similar with guard 😔

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Best I can do is 30 kids beating on a Ct'an shard and winning

atomic pelican
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Yeee honestly one of the big reasons I like cults is alot of meme potential from characters

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I still have to try the Paupers "everytime you kill a acolyte, they drop d6 flamer on you" build

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Before codex change

eternal ledge
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What I love doing is using a Magus to cast Otherworldly Strength on a squad of Aberents so now they are hitting on Strength 8 with ap 2 power hammers. I turned my friend's squad of immortals to aluminum cans with a charge

atomic pelican
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RIP yes

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Aberrants do be big slappers

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Love the damage 3 hammers

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Going to get even better with the next codex, atm they're sooo point costy

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Presumably they'll either price lower them, or make them worth their 30pt cost

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Hopefully atleast going to T5, or 3w, or smthing

atomic pelican
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That's smthing I've been wondering, and you talk about running aberrants alot so I figured you'd know

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Oh wait nvm, It's just rolling twice and choosing one

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Rather than what I thought

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I've never actually ran the biophagus that I have because elite slots 😩

eternal ledge
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Same

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I got the mini but haven't had a list that needed it

atomic pelican
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Yepp

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Getting everything I want into elites hurts, I kind of wish aberrants were heavy support for that reason

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since uh, the only thing that's even fun, much less 'good' to run in heavy support is the rockgrinder

rose thorn
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We should just get Proud Jeanstealer a button that says "ask me about genestealer cults"

atomic pelican
rose thorn
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I wonder, assuming that the grey knight of slaanesh was a grey knight

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how the fuck did the res of the grey knights react

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liek that seems like

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a dishonor to the entire fucking chapter

signal hill
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Fun fact: that was original supposed to be a full Fight
But someone wasn't feeling Well that day and they improvised

upbeat arch
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aight fuck it guys

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im goin in

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im doing all HH books in order

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(skipping just a notorious few)

storm jungle
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Dont

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YEP

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good decision

upbeat arch
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im trying to figure out which ones are DEFINITE skip...

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I've heard Battle for the abyss

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but other than that, not sure

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also

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releasing abridged audio books should be illegal

eternal ledge
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I'm listening to the series on audio book too. Via "methods"

upbeat arch
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I bought most of them either through audible or humble bundles over the years

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But the audible app has gotten so fucking bad that i just got the audiobooks through “methods” as well

meager gale
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whats wrong with the audible app? have never used it but was thinking about getting it so i can listen to 40k stories during workouts

upbeat arch
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My phone is an iphone 7 so take this with a grain of salt. Every update the app gets worse and worse. Random times the playback will slow down to like 25%, but then will start playing really really fast to catch up to where it used to be. Sometimes i have to hit the play button like 5 times before the app decides to play. Forget trying to import any audiobook files too, it never works. Any support questions always come to “go spend 1,000$ on a new phone”

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This app works 100% fine with no problems whatsoever though.

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Maybe it works on newer phones but I can’t say.

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And how long until they decide to break the app on that phone?

eternal ledge
meager gale
distant parcel
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planned obsolescence rip

meager gale
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idk if that's the case specifically for audible it's probably moreso they're lazy and dont want to optimize for older models

upbeat arch
upbeat arch
plush mason
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So what happens to an inquisitor that gets excommunicated?

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Like do they end up on the run or what

proper helm
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Generally other inquisitors hunt them down, which is made difficult by the fact that inquisitors have a lot of pull, even when they aren't legally inquisitors anymore

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also that information's hard to get everywhere it needs to be

marsh grail
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They are instructed to place their gun on the ground and then lie on their stomach with their arms at their sides to assume the heretic retrieval position until a heretic escort bot picks them up.

plush mason
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So it can very quickly turn into a galaxy wide game of cat and mouse

marsh grail
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Note there is a low percentage of compliant heretics

plush mason
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Is there a special ordo for hunting down excommunicated inquisitors or is that something the ordos keep internal?

marsh grail
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It’s probably just the normal heretic branch

proper helm
marsh grail
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Ordo Hereticus I believe?

marsh grail
proper helm
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That had a purpose beyond petty infighting, and I do believe Kryptmann was disgraced in some sense

plush mason
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He was still proven right in the end tho

proper helm
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He absolutely wasn't. Kryptmann's mess gave the Imperium the Octarius war, where two forces that grow off of conflict met each other and just kept getting stronger

marsh grail
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Yeah but they’d have eaten earth otherwise.

plush mason
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Exactly

proper helm
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Well, it's an unmanagable fight now or an unmanagable fight later so you have a point

marsh grail
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And earth is STRATEGIC VALUE ABSOLUTE.

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Man I loved the opening of space marine. That was hilarious.

plush mason
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Yeah holy terra becoming a bug snack is completly out of the question

marsh grail
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Here’s a real question. If something threatened earth so much would they make an attempt to relocate the golden throne?

proper helm
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That would be impossible

marsh grail
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Why?

proper helm
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largely due to the giant warp rift the Emperor is containing

plush mason
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Could they even if they wanted to?

marsh grail
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Why isn’t it mobile in the first place?

proper helm
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if they unplugged it from the webway gate it would blow up a segmentum

marsh grail
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With all the crazy things they put on hovers or legs you’d think the palace itself could move let alone the throne.

plush mason
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But if earth is falling would that really matter at that point?

proper helm
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The Imperium does not understand the golden throne

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The Imperium will likely never understand it

atomic pelican
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The only ppl who even slightly understand it are haemonculi

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Funnily enough

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Probably because its partly xeno tech

proper helm
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Putting a psychic mountain on treads is fine when that mountain doesn't spit out lighting bolts the size of skyscrapers

marsh grail
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If need be cut the chunk of earth around the Himalazan mountains and make a fortress monastery like the rock.

proper helm
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Again, that would destroy the sector before they had time to relocate

plush mason
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Didnt big E find it up in the mountains somewhere?

proper helm
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and also accompanying infrastructure that keeps the Imperium barely running

marsh grail
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Oh he didn’t create the throne he found it?

plush mason
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If earth is under attack and lossing the imperium is already dead at that point

marsh grail
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I’m just saying; something that can move is always better than something stationary.

proper helm
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I'm sure the bloodthirsters trying to crawl out of it would be fine with some renovation

plush mason
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I tought it was bird boy's demons attacking the human webway

proper helm
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I was scrolling through the page on the wiki when I saw this. Was what made me mention it

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"Hi I'd like some coffee"

marsh grail
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We’ve been trying to reach you about your web way portals extended warranty.

peak hamlet
storm jungle
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LMAO

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god he looks so stupid

prime kernel
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@storm jungle the demon or the sister ?

storm jungle
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the Emperor

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look at him

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hes just suspended up there in a stupid chair

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it doesnt look epic at all is what im saying lul

prime kernel
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Hahahahahah

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That looks silly as fuck

peak hamlet
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Big e just vibin

gaunt vector
eternal ledge
gaunt vector
plush mason
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Lol

plush mason
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So how do Vox communications work?

proper helm
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Like an ordinary radio?

plush mason
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I heared they use the warp somehow is that true

final spruce
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they don't

proper helm
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That's astropaths

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They are psykers who use their abilities to send messages across the warp to other astropaths. The kicker is that those messages are pictograms I think?

final spruce
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Now the thing is depending of writer it may depends but usually yeah its pictograms

upbeat arch
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every time i re-read the horus heresy, i root for horus not to turn even tho it always ends up the same 😢

eternal ledge
upbeat arch
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listen to magnus, lupercal! erebus is a fuck!

eternal ledge
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#FuckErebus

upbeat arch
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it really cant be overstated how much erebus sucks, it really cant

errant mauve
tranquil mist
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Erebus deserves to get hit by a truck

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Or worse

marsh grail
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Don’t you mean Orabus?

meager gale
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you think we'll get more substantial info on the dark krakens anytime soon? found out about them about a month and quickly sucked down all the information available. i want to say they're my favorite astartes chapter but they don't really have much media so i can't actually... but thematically they check all the boxes for me - terrific color scheme, ocean-themed, and a salamanders (my favorite astartes) successor chapter

https://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Dark_Krakens

final spruce
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Love purple

errant mauve
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But there are a fair amount of filler chapters that eventually get a lot of fleshed out lore

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i.e Doom Eagles or the Badab War chapters

tender igloo
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i'm going to start a thing on here where we say something nice about the parts of 40k we hate, so here's mine: i think the eldar aesthetic is really cool and sleek

errant mauve
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I'll join

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Space Wolves serve as strong narrative foils to the more centralized aspects of the imperium

storm jungle
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mayo

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no lies

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WAIT A MINUTE-

odd sparrow
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i love that

errant mauve
storm jungle
tender igloo
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another one for you: despite my opinion that he's used too much, nurgle is a really good choice to show off how horrific chaos can be without going too far

storm jungle
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I think hes the best and vermintide really sold me on him in general

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unlike khorne or others you can just make giant infected structures/aesethetics to show how wide his corruption really goes

tender igloo
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i just want more of the horrors of the other chaos gods in warhammer games

storm jungle
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Khorne had the chair for awhile before Nurgle came in so i hope Tzeentch or Slaanesh is next tbh

plucky moth
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tzeentch I hope is the next big thing

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since madness and deception would make for some hella interesting content

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(potentially)

meager gale
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also the thousands sons have the best aesthetic out of all the chaos marines (in my opinion)

serene jungle
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They do

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They just need to be better

potent swift
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Age of Recknoning was peak Tzeentch content, at least aesthetically. The Ravenhost are still my favorite Warband to this day

plush mason
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that game was far from canon in many areas sadly

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it was still the best

plush mason
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wait so there are space wolf successor chapters now?

barren tapir
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Yes, like there are also salamanders successors now

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Both chapters were extremely unstable and pretty much hadn't nay successor, since that limited the creation of SM for fans to buy minis they pulled out a cawl from the pocket and solved it

plush mason
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ima assume they are all primaris and that cawl managed to fix the problem with the canis helix

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wait what was wrong with the salamanders' geneseed?

barren tapir
barren tapir
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Like with the space wolves it seems that only the people from that world are suitable for their geneseed

plush mason
#

with the space wolves its a flaw with the canis helix itself. which is a core part of their geneseed

barren tapir
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Turns out that living, and surviving, on a highly volcanic world with huge solar radiation change you in interesting way uh

plush mason
#

i thought it just made their skin black and eyes red

barren tapir
barren tapir
plush mason
#

where the wolf brothers from feniris?

barren tapir
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The first recruits? Probably

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Cawl went kidnapping people all around the galaxy for those marines

plush mason
#

the wolf brothers all became wolfen and had to be put down iirc

barren tapir
#

And some were taken even before horus betrayl iirc

barren tapir
#

The problem with that was that those people didn't had... something, like the fenrisian have, to stabilize the canis helix in the geneseed

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With those people i meant the recruits

plush mason
#

that lead the space wolves to ask the sanquinairy priest hood to fix their geneseed

barren tapir
#

??

plush mason
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yeah one of them set up a lab and started work on stabilizing the canis helix

barren tapir
#

I think that they never saw it as a problem, unlike the blood angels, that tried many times to fix their flaws

plush mason
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no they did. magnus himself destoried the lab and its data and killed the priest working on it

storm jungle
#

^

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its one of the major points of the Fang book

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but now it doesnt really matter since they can make successors anyway

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good job GW KEK

plush mason
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yup

barren tapir
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Oh, just found info, it wasn't a sanguinary priest, it was a space wolf high priest

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But interesting enough, bjorn would have destroyed the lab if magnus didn't that first

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That show that we were both correct, some wanted to fix it, others to not fix it

plush mason
#

it was a highly controversial project

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the canis helix was made my the emperor himself so changing it was seen as a major taboo by many

prisma lark
barren tapir
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Yes, and the status is?

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Nearly declared excomunicate because their geneseed is bonkers

prisma lark
#

but the matter is, Salamanders successor chapters are not technically "new"

errant mauve
barren tapir
#

Like space wolves aren't "new"

prisma lark
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granted, they've had a lot more in the Ultima Founding that they ever had before

barren tapir
#

There are actually few space wolves successor before ultima founding, but all ended badly

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Same for salamanders

plush mason
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afaik only the wolf brothers where started

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they never tried again

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they where only going to after they fixed the canis helix

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its why they are a non codex compliant chapter with anymore than 1k SMs

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tho exact numbers are unknown

signal hill
#

I might be late to the party but...are dreadnaughts (aside from the lobotomy) are kind of like...hyper servitors?

storm jungle
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Kinda?

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the only similiarity is them both being cyborgs

barren tapir
#

What?! No

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Dreadnought aren't lobotomised

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They aren't even servitors

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WTH

storm jungle
#

It was just a question lul

barren tapir
#

And mine were just answers

signal hill
#

also I said >aside from the lobotomy<

prisma lark
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the lobotomy is what makes servitors servitors

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otherwise that's just a cyborg

barren tapir
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Oh, i read it differently lol

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My bad

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Sorry

signal hill
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happens

barren tapir
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But no, they aren't servitors, they are more suits, see them as iron man suits just permanents

signal hill
#

but the space marine in a dreadnaught is basically stripped of most what made them even remotely human and every dreadnaught line I've heard/read seems like they are even more indoctrinated then regular space marines
especially from that one dow 2 dreadnaught (who started as regular marine in the campaign)

prisma lark
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I think only the sarcophagus itself is permanent?

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but it can be placed in dreadnaught after dreadnaught if need be

barren tapir
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Removing a sarcophagus from a dreadnought is in general a traumatic event, so it isn't really done

prisma lark
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ah, I'm not really well-versed in that part of the lore, sorry

signal hill
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okay I probably lack a little knowledge about how dreadnaughts are built too 😛

prisma lark
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like, why are Redemptor called "Primaris dreadnaughts"? The sarcophagus appears to be the same, just up-armoured?

barren tapir
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In general dreadnought tend to go crazy in due time, something about their minds simply not grasping their new bodies or something...

prisma lark
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so couldn't you intern any firstborn marine in one?

errant mauve
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So you're spot on there

errant mauve
barren tapir
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Oh, one thing about dreadnought i just remembered, among SM it is seen as an honour to be entombed in a dreadnought, among custodes is ill seen lol

signal hill
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I think the 'primaris dreadnaught' are called that because

  1. they are basically new and were introduced with the primaris
  2. have several new quirks
  3. are (because of their introduction) mostly used by primaris (so far)
errant mauve
#

We've seen in fluff firstborn wear primaris armour with little issue, so I feel distinction of primaris is mainly for tabletop.

#

A dreadnought of any stripe is piloted using a Mind Impulse Unit

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nothing primaris exclusive bout that

plush mason
#

iirc they are also hella powerfull. so powerfull in fact they tend to burn out their pilots quickly

signal hill
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^that was the mentioned quirk

errant mauve
#

Yeah, their reactors are very powerful

signal hill
#

they put enormous strain on their pilots and just burn them up
which is of course a double edged sword

errant mauve
#

But yeah, if a SM of any stripe can use a Mind Impulse Unit, he theoretically can be fit in any dread.

plush mason
#

i mean there is no reason a first born couldnt be put in one of the new classes

storm jungle
#

Its basically just grimdank

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you can as easily write in any lore line to explain that theres no thing stopping it but hey

plush mason
#

tho its likely they would die even quicker once plugged in

errant mauve
plush mason
#

tbh its likely just due to the fact the primaris and the new dreads are so new to the setting that we havent seen stuff like this happen yet

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there also likely isnt many of these new dreads to go around rn

barren tapir
#

This is it, i'm putting a skitarii in a dreadnought

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Ah, not even a skitarii, a guard

signal hill
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well, there are at least not many limbs to cut off, just a few screws to remove

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(with the skitarii I mean of course)

marsh grail
#

Do you think the emperor will ever recover and leave the golden throne? If so do you think He and at least a few more primarchs will become playable models again?

storm jungle
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100%

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but id say deffo in a few years

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Big E will only get off the throne when 40k is most likely gonna be nuked tho

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so thats awhile off

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Primarch minis on the other hand?

tender igloo
#

we will probably see more primarchs come back at least

storm jungle
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YEP

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was just gonna spam the money symbol lul

#

Marines make money in the end

tender igloo
#

the lion is already a cool forge world mini

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i want to see what he would look like in plastic

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we will most likely see angron come back first as the holy prophecy says

dim totem
#

Do people think 30k is on its last legs?

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Not to open a can of worms but wondering

tender igloo
#

no

atomic pelican
#

I dont think so

dim totem
#

I imagine lockdowns did the hobby gud

atomic pelican
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Its still getting updated

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Not many ppl play it but its a mega whale game so

tender igloo
#

i think its just in that weird period where it's going to get a big overhaul

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but they have to devote all their resource into that

#

so they can't do big updates to the current version

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kind of like kill team was

dim totem
#

What are the odds of us getting another faction ever?

#

I never see ppl briging that up

tender igloo
#

like are we talking new faction as in world eaters and emperor's children, or new as in completely new?

atomic pelican
#

Pretty likely if ur timeframe is infinitum

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40k isnt going anywhere anytime soon

#

And we get new armies p often

#

It just depends on ur definition of new I suppose

scenic bolt
#

Dark Mechanicus has been the rumor for years in 30k, but again, years

atomic pelican
#

Very possible. Those kinds of plans can take years to manifest anyways

tender igloo
#

yeah, GW plans a lot of things at least a couple of years in advance

slow prawn
#

Personally I think 30k is going in a good direction

#

They’re releasing little miniature books of certain battles, with a new set of models to go with it, and rules to play that battle

tender igloo
#

don't forget the leaked box set

slow prawn
#

Oh yes, the eventual plastic stuff

errant yacht
#

Is it bad that i want the Emperor's Shadows to actually have some lore? Or heck, be featured in future 40K media?

#

Somehow, i imagine them shouting their attack names due to being a Space Marine chapter with Japanese influences

lofty storm
tender igloo
lofty storm
#

Oh shit... New plastic Contemptor...

#

I may have to peep.

tender igloo
#

@lofty storm

lofty storm
#

Beautifulllll

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I'm game.

tender igloo
#

i forgot about the cataphractii terminators as well

plush mason
#

so what was that gun the ogryn had in the game play trailer?

#

the one that kinda looks like an old nam era nad launcher?

errant mauve
#

ripper gun

plush mason
#

this was a single shot

#

break action

#

that

#

and afaik rippers are automatic

cerulean wagon
#

might been a mauler cannon

#

idk

plush mason
#

idk i cant find any info on it

rose thorn
#

what the fuck is word bearer's named characters lore like

#

like, emperors children is just either super bad ass or sociopath

#

iron warriors are stubborn fuckers

plush mason
#

umm they where the first to fall to chaos

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have worshiped it on their home world where lorgar was found

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also erebus isnt actully erebus

rose thorn
#

so lorgar, went from chaos to loyalist to chaos

plush mason
#

when he was growing up erebus was the golden boy of his community. so the fucker that is now erebus killed him and took his name

rose thorn
#

how the fuck was taht supposed to not fail

plush mason
#

the only reason the imperial heralds didnt wipe that world clean of life is due to lorgar being there

#

the imperial heralds are the original name of the word bearers

errant mauve
#

if you're looking for adjectives to describe them

storm jungle
#

^

rose thorn
#

makes scenes

storm jungle
#

if you want the short sense

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"they're lovable fucking assholes"

#

but like

#

in this way:

rose thorn
#

alpha legion, is alpha legion

errant mauve
#

People shit on Erebus but the man has a tongue of pure silver

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and a mind sharper than a razor

plush mason
errant mauve
rose thorn
#

lmao

#

i kinda like how every legion kinda has a similar personality

errant mauve
# rose thorn makes scenes

If you want to see how Erebus can manipulate people without honeyed words, read the Kharn vs Erebus fight, but focus on what Erebus was doing in the pits before Kharn showed up.

rose thorn
#

in the legion

#

so it makes making custon named characters easier

errant mauve
#

A lot of people focus on Kharn beating up Erebus, but the entire time Erebus was pushing Kharn's buttons until he got him to do what he wanted (fully submit himself to Khorne)

plush mason
#

erebus should have died there

errant mauve
#

No, he shouldn't have. While it may be satisfying for some, ADB's goal there was to show how manipulative and slimy Erebus can be, as well as Kharn being a badass.

plush mason
#

fair

errant mauve
#

I know folks really don't like Erebus

plush mason
#

hell is erebus even relivant to the current lore events?

errant mauve
#

But he's got a purpose, and he's well written for it

errant mauve
#

He's in a position where he's kind of... already completed his main quest

#

and is just fucking around with side quests rn

plush mason
#

lol

errant mauve
#

Recently he's uh

#

gone a sacrifice spree

#

with the 13th Black Crusade

#

killing a ton of worlds for the dark gods

#

but other than that, he's just big chillin

plush mason
#

wtf is lorgar are any of the other traitor primarchs doing rn?

neat fiber
#

Lorgar is fist fighting a bird

plush mason
#

lol

neat fiber
#

And losing

plush mason
#

its corvus right?

neat fiber
#

Which is funny because thats basically entirely what hes doing

#

Yeah

plush mason
#

wtf is pert doing?

#

seeing as dorn is dead what has he done lately?

dusk blade
#

Looking for his keys in the iron cage.

#

dropped them in a grate, been stuck there for years.

plush mason
#

did he really lock himself in?

#

aka reach the final stage of all imperial fist/ iron warriors progression

errant mauve
#

currently planning smth with Honsou

#

Has been focusing on expanding IW numbers

plush mason
#

hm

#

part of me wants to know what captain danger noddle is up to. the rest of me is fine not knowing

plucky moth
#

god pert is based

#

total cunt

plush mason
#

and fulgrim is just....

#

a mistake

dusk blade
#

no I think lorgar was the biggest mistake

neat fiber
#

Fulgrim is crying in a corner because he got his feelies hurt

plush mason
#

by fulgrim i mean demon fulgrim

plush mason
#

well he is know for being melodramadic

#

is angron still locked ina box?

errant mauve
#

Pert's just dicking around omegalul

plucky moth
#

amazing

plush mason
#

im liking pert more and more

errant mauve
#

a bagle worm is a computer worm

#

but yes

#

what he did

#

was design a lined of accursed scrap code

#

that when it infected a FW's comms

#

resulted in massive, sandworm, like beasts made of the wires of the forgeworld

#

to sprout of the ground in 7 days, corrupting the world

plush mason
#

he sounds like my kind of guy lol

errant mauve
#

Memes may rag of Pert but he's a real g mayo

plucky moth
#

malware in 40k is something else lmao

rose thorn
#

i love how deathguard can make computer virsues and crap lmao

#

nurgle

#

i mean

#

like demon computer viruses

plush mason
#

a viruses is a viruses i guess

odd sparrow
rose thorn
#

i wanna make a computer virus themed deathguard killteam

plush mason
#

speaking of the deathguard. isnt their champ suppost to have an amazing voice or is that just a joke/meme?

rose thorn
#

i know one of the great unclean one has like a beautiful humming voice

plush mason
#

daemons are weird

rose thorn
#

yeah the demons of nurgle have amazing moral

plush mason
#

daemons actully

rose thorn
#

true actually

plush mason
#

a demon and a daemon are 2 very different things

#

i still wonder if GW knew that or they just thought the a made it look cooler

meager gale
#

I know it’s gross and fucked up but if I HAD to worship a chaos god I would worship Nurgle. He’s the only one that truly loves his worshippers. And even though you’d become a pestilent mass of diseased flesh, at least you’d do it painlessly and in great, jovial spirits.

Also apparently the Death Guard call nurglings ‘little lords’ cause they look like their papa and if that isn’t the cutest thing ever

rose thorn
#

The hard part is not vomiting your guts out first or going insane from disease

#

Or living from said disease

#

Also you need to literally accept the fact you will end up killing countless numbers of men women and children in one of the slowest and painful ways possible

#

But after that you are in da squad

meager gale
#

Oh for sure. Though I’d rather have that then become a Tzeentchian chaos spawn or be subject to Hellraiser-level and worse Slaaneshi stuff.

The ruinous powers are all pretty fucked honestly haha which is why I would never worship a Chaos god willingly it’s just I had to I’d be going for Papa Nurgle.

#

Also unrelated but every time I see your avi it makes me giggle lol

rose thorn
#

Tzeetch it’s required to be insane

plucky moth
#

tzeentch is the only one I can see myself going for if only because I'd totally be susceptible to getting memed into it

rose thorn
#

Saved by Slaanesh babyyy

plucky moth
#

forbidden knowledge is tasty

rose thorn
#

Only chaos god with realistic things it can offer

#

And 100% chance If dying happy

errant mauve
#

Undivided gang

plucky moth
#

undivided is pretty based indeed

rose thorn
#

True

#

Realistically unless you have a nail in your brain why would you join Khrone

errant mauve
#

Power

#

The twisted sense of honour the god has that the other 3 really don't

atomic pelican
#

Being red

meager gale
#

I just want a god that loves and appreciates me, even if he might be a Plague god

plucky moth
#

when the festering disease heap is more caring than the guardian of mankind

#

big sad

dusk blade
#

As much as the emperor may care, I'm pretty sure he's got bigger problems than our little hive world to notice.

#

we'll have to make do until he can get time to check his email backlog

meager gale
#

This is a very loaded question, and definitely hard to answer because it’s all relative in a grim dark universe. We all (should) know the Imperium aren’t the good guys but what would you say the most ‘evil’ major loyalist Space Marine chapter is? Not based purely on actions but also motivations.

Deathwatch? Black Templars?

scenic bolt
#

marines malevolent hands down

#

theyre about as close to a chaos space marine chapter that still??? follows the imperium

atomic pelican
#

If only major chapters, I suppose Deathwatch

#

Its hard to say really

#

Problem is that most chapters do evil, it just depends on where your sympathies most lie

meager gale
#

Yeah I wouldn’t classify Malevolant as major but they def fit the bill for sure.

And yeah they’re all varying levels of fuckedness lol

errant mauve
#

While Marines Malevolent sort of have it in their name

#

If you're classifying "evil" as "malevolent"

#

I'd honestly wager the cursed founding minotaurs

meager gale
#

Evil is nebulous in the grim dark context but I feel like a chapter explicitly created to do genocide like the Deathwatch kinda fit what I was asking

errant mauve
#

by cursed founding minos I mean these guys

atomic pelican
#

I vote Deathwatch just for their role in nearly snuffing the Ynnari plan, which is perhaps the only plan capable of actually killing a chaos god

errant mauve
#

not these fellas

scenic bolt
#

yea

errant mauve
#

I say the cursed founding Minotaurs because in their fluff they genuinely... take joy at the suffering of others. Be it friend or foe.

#

The Marines Malevolent might be dicks who obey orders to the letter, but they're just there to get the job done.

#

No matter the cost.

#

The Cursed Founding Minotaurs have been noted to actively pursue maximum casualties for the sake of it.

scenic bolt
#

well I'd say MM to an extent cause theyve pissed off entire segments of the imperium to the point of being persona non grata

dusk blade
#

I mean I know even some ultramarines can be right evil fecks with pride enough to make eldar blush.

personally I'd say the most evil ones can be corrupt gverment officials

errant mauve
#

The thing with the MM

#

as I wagered before

scenic bolt
#

like the mechanicus wont give them stuff, the munitorum wont give them stuff, the ministorum wont give them stuff

errant mauve
#

Is that they aren't really doing it... for the purpose of pissing people off

scenic bolt
#

it's a wonder how they secure gear

errant mauve
#

They get told to do something, they do it, if someone's got a problem, they don't give a damn.

meager gale
errant mauve
#

The cursed minos will actively ignore command-trees and battle-plans completely to simply maximize carnage.

#

There's also the fact that MM are still around and the cursed minos magically disappeared in m41, only for the bronzed minos to magically reappear 👀

scenic bolt
#

I guess that also begs the question if extent counts or not

errant mauve
#

yeah

scenic bolt
#

I mean we're all past technicality since none of the above are major (Im assuming major being as popular enough in lore to get their own codex)

errant mauve
#

But the MM are definitely up there for just

#

bastards

scenic bolt
#

so it's just more thoughts thereof

errant mauve
#

the new minotaurs are too now that I think about it

#

enters terra
destroys entire hivespire to root out Chaos cult
tells Imperial Fists to suck a dick
does not elaborate
leaves

meager gale
#

Yeah it was for codex stuff but the 2 obscure answers are quite interesting tbh

dusk blade
#

I mean I'm just gonna say ultramarines because I'm pretty sure they've edited the hard working guardsman and mortal heroes out of their historical novels to make themselves look better.

dusk blade
#

"and the 30 ultrmaines kill the 10'000 orks in a knife fight, without any backup or artilery support at all."

errant mauve
#

these are ketchup and mustard minos

marsh grail
#

Oh

errant mauve
#

no lamenters cucking yet

scenic bolt
#

what about something like grey knights

errant mauve
#

Oooh

scenic bolt
#

the org itself isnt evil

errant mauve
#

that's a good one

scenic bolt
#

but the measures around it are

errant mauve
#

but do we consider the GK responsible for the actions of ordo malleus?

scenic bolt
#

like some bit of lore places that you need 1 billion psykers to make 1 grey knight

#

and you need a billion people to produce 1 psyker

meager gale
#

Motivations are important also

scenic bolt
#

obv the math doesnt add up when you think on it literally

errant mauve
#

If we're going by motivation

#

hm

#

good question

scenic bolt
#

also the fact they/the inq will straight up murder anyone who hears sees or knows of the grey knights

#

for no good reason

marsh grail
#

Irl undercover cops have a higher chance to become dirty because of what they are exposed to and must tolerate. The same could be said about grey knights and the ordo malleus. They are constantly in contact with daemons and the warp.

scenic bolt
#

other than super secrets

dusk blade
#

grey knights have constant mind wipes for that very reason

marsh grail
#

Add on the fact no ones “good” in 40k and things get ugly.

dusk blade
#

prety sure grey knight brain damage is common

scenic bolt
#

so I was more thinking on the collateral bodycount that piles up just by the chapter existing

#

from the silencing and the process of trialing new members

dusk blade
#

black templars probley have high collateral

#

and thats before the purges of people that look "off"

errant mauve
#

I'd say by motivation... the Carcharodons very much a malevolently motivated chapter.

marsh grail
#

Is it even collateral damage if it doesn’t exceed the daily sacrifice to keep the emperor alive?

scenic bolt
#

well the grey knights help fuel that to a degree

#

if you fail but live you pretty much golden throned

#

cause of the SECRETS

marsh grail
#

There are far worse punishments and fates.

#

At least you still serve a purpose.

#

Someone has to go in that blender.

errant mauve
#

The Minotaurs brutalize and slaughter because they are the attack dogs of the high lords
The Marines Malevolent cause civilian casualties because they only care about the order, not the means
The Carcharodons torture, conquer, enslave, and kill in the outer realms because they can

#

So yeah, if we're counting motivations, I'd put the Carcharodons up there

scenic bolt
#

motivation wise I'd say the grey knights and deathwatch arent exactly up there

#

unless you're a demon, or xeno

dusk blade
errant mauve
#

Generally speaking the more you operate with the centralized imperium the less directly malevolent your motivations are

scenic bolt
#

whereas the others cause more harm to imperium as well

errant mauve
#

Chapters that are less under supervision probably are much more malevolent in their motivation

scenic bolt
#

which chapter got ork snipered by the inquisition

errant mauve
#

Celestial Lions

scenic bolt
#

oh right right

rose thorn
#

What was that space marine chapter that accidentally was worshipping a chaos god?

errant mauve
#

also Silver Skulls to a lesser extent

errant mauve
rose thorn
#

Then declaimed war on chaos after they were kicked out of thr imperium after an inquisitor saw their cannibalism ritual and the accidentally killed said inquisitor

#

Declared war*

#

So now the imperium is hinting them down while they are hunting down chaos

dusk blade
#

flesh eaters?

rose thorn
#

They aren’t considered loyalist

Also I think flesh eaters is too on the nose

#

Yeah nope

#

Not them

dusk blade
#

i've sadly put very little research into space marines

marsh grail
#

Are you sure that’s sad?

dusk blade
#

yeah nah it aint, i mostly focused on guardsmen regiments

rose thorn
#

I just know Slaanesh shit and nothing else lmao

meager gale
#

I like Tau lol

#

Mechs and blue aliens are my jam

scenic bolt
#

tau aesthetic is iconic

errant mauve
rose thorn
#

Yeah not the flesh eaters

marsh grail
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Question are tau or eldar closer to Starcraft Protoss? Or perhaps another faction?

rose thorn
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I’m Pretty sure they are yellow? They have that wierd color split thing

scenic bolt
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gut feeling is tau

errant mauve
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The other chapter I can think of that are cannibals are excoriators

scenic bolt
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but prolly a mix

errant mauve
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but they're loyal too

rose thorn
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Damn I really like the blood eagles, their design is actually really cool

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They are the only blood angels anything I actually like

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Damn I hate blood angels

scenic bolt
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lamenters aren't too bad

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easily one of the more unique chapter insignia

rose thorn
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Oh yeah

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Everyone likes lamenters

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I legit forgot they were blood angels because how unique and cool they are

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And depressing

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OH I WAS THINKING ABOUT YHR SONS OF MALICE I THINK

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God I really really like the hyper religious space marine chapters aesthetics tbh

Like melting holy candles on their armor, literal books Worth of holy parchment stamped on their bodies

Damn I want flame falcon army

karmic gulch
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How long would the yoink war between The Blood Raven's and Trazyn be?

barren tapir
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Eternal

eternal ledge
vast frigate
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remember

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this is lore accurate

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"Always remember that the "loyalist" tech priests are only about as loyal as the distance and relative firepower of the nearest inquisitor and their give a damn levels are always below that.'

barren tapir
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From where it is lore accurate?

vast frigate
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have you read anything including techpriests, skitarii, mechanicus and the rest of the imperium?

barren tapir
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Yes

vast frigate
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these motherfuckers are so petty they will get longer leg augments to be the tallest in the meeting

barren tapir
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And that phrase isn't lore accurate

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They can be pretty petty that is true

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Did you heard of mezoa?

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I guess they aren't really loyal too then

storm jungle
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A techpriest is as loyal as the plot demands them to be

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basically all the Imperium

barren tapir
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Like with SM smh

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They were super loyal, until they weren't lol

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And this all because plot demanded

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Same with primaris

storm jungle
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yeah or like the Flesh Tearers

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without plot-carapace those guys would have fallen to khorne long ago lmao

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"controlling muh rage" my ass

barren tapir
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I remember reading of a flesh tearer that fell to chaos and was present in an arena... Something with honshu or whatever his name was

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Also blood angels fall in that category too

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Yeah, SM that can go berserkers that a khorne berz would be scared of them too but yeah, they don't get corrupted no no

vast frigate
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but at the same time due to the leeway the mechanicus gets

ebon plinth
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are the custodes and sos still fighting in the broken webway ?

storm jungle
eternal ledge
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On top of powering the Astronomicon Emps is powering a barrier to block Chaso from flooding into Terra via the Webway

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Avoiding another Eye of Terror on Terra

plush mason
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so are the memes about the nids running from something worse a confirmed lore fact or just bs?

atomic pelican
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It's bullshit in the finest 40k way, which is that it's essentially just fanfic

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But it's one of those things that 'could' be true

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So it's w/e

plush mason
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thought so

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and imo the nids lore is better. as it makes them into an intergalactic predetor that has cought sight of prey

hollow sonnet
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Tau codex coming soon right

atomic pelican
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Yes

hollow sonnet
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I'm hoping for more lore on 4th sphere expansion's chaos corruption

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it would be

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supremely cathartic

atomic pelican
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January/February with GSC/Custodes

hollow sonnet
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to see an ethereal caste get a gift from papa nurgle

atomic pelican
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Also doubt, the main tau writer recently confirmed they cant rlly get corrupted as we know it

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Influencee yes

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Corrupted not so

hollow sonnet
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there is no justice in this world, only pain

plush mason
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i thought the tau had little connection to the warp

atomic pelican
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That is true

hollow sonnet
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oh well, i just hope the lore from it is good

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Last i read up on it, 4th sphere was getting 're-educated' back on tau homeworld

barren tapir
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I can share the excerpt of the tau falling to the influence of khorne, at least until 7 ethereals were mustered if you want

atomic pelican
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That was before Phil's recent statement

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Which will likely be the trend for the future

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They certainly have before

hollow sonnet
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I hope they will again

atomic pelican
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I think you just want to tau salt

hollow sonnet
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I want to see Commander Farsight descend like an angel before the Tau masses and free them from the ethereals

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and then all hell break loose as a tyranid swarm invades and a tomb awakening happens

barren tapir
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It is still canon though, heretic astartes 8 ed codex iirc

hollow sonnet
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in all honesty I'm just interested to see what they'll do with 4th sphere and 5th sphere stuff

barren tapir
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4th sphere is definitely an interesting topic, that i too would like to be developed

hollow sonnet
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and any more lore on farsight is always welcome

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Oh also the return of Titus

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was very awesome

barren tapir
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Yes, the excerpt with tau falling under the influence of khorne is from the 8 ed chaos astartes codex, which, afaik is the most recent one for them

hollow sonnet
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Imagine a tau ripping and tearing out of their battle suit in order to engage in honorable melee combat cuz of khorne corruption

barren tapir
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That is too much grimderp, they simply close in to shoot people in da face

plush mason
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BFG3?

storm jungle
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Battlefleet Gothic 3

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those big ship boi games

plush mason
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oh you mean the TT not the video game

storm jungle
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nah the videogame

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basically long story short

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the plans were all set for the 3rd game

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but GW said the company has to fund the game itself without any financial backing from GW

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so uh

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they understandably didnt go with it lul

plush mason
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yeah the first 2 didnt do very well

storm jungle
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it did?

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but not as nearly as it should have

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so its a bit of a tricky busines ssituation alas

plush mason
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1 did ok. 2 was a let down

storm jungle
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no?

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Its like one of the best 40k games out there lmao

atomic pelican
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Yeah 2 is just a upgrade of 1 p much

storm jungle
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tyranid campaign is best campaign

atomic pelican
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Theyre nearly the same game

storm jungle
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"HOLY EMPEROR I CAN HEAR THEM IN THE WALLS"

plush mason
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are we talking about the same BFG2? the one with the massive bugs and balancing issues?

storm jungle
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i just played it for the campaign

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so yeet

plush mason
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same

atomic pelican
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Yeah the campaign is fine

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The multiplayer is

plush mason
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a joke

atomic pelican
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Wildly imbalanced

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Yeah

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Ah yes

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Megamind Navy players sitting in a corner and going to sleep then winning

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Or admech

plush mason
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wasnt balancing problems the main downfall of the TT version as well?

atomic pelican
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Vs eldar doing 6000 moves then exploding because their sail died

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No idea

plush mason
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so any idea what the average age of a SM force commander is?

odd sparrow
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BFG2 is excellent tbh, it's a really well made game

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just def not one you'd host like. big mp stuff in. it's a smol game at the end of the day

atomic pelican
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Yee

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Its also like.

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Vaguely unfinished?

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Not in a broken way but

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Its like theres clear signs of planned expansion that never happenef

odd sparrow
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Yee it feels like if TWWH ended at warhammer 1

plush mason
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tbh BFG2's only problem was its multiplayer

odd sparrow
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it's fun for coop at least

plush mason
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there is coop?

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all i saw was the pvp multiplayer

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but then i only played it at launch