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tbh
Basically psycho good guys
I like it that way ngl
the entire appeal of nighlords is that they are space badnit phycos
and now they just
space phycos
its the perfect example of how a few change of words can make a legion loyalist, same as how flesh tearers are psychopaths yet are SOMEHOW still officially loyal because muh blood angels
Lawyers are psychos too
ALSO BLOOD ANGELS FOLLOW NURGLE AND I KINDA LOVE IT

wait WHAT
Gotta infect your hemoglobbers
jesus christ
relaly really fits
Blind twinks
yeah
Nothing changed with 40k lore in that regard then
What do they suffer now, the green light and the black tire?
will admit i think they got the nurgle deal mostly because Russ already fits the khorne archetype, hence why the writers probably tried to choose another legion to replace that slot
I believe the bloodangels dont havbe the thirst anymore because a deal with nurgle
little did they know
making a deal with nurgle is the wrost thing possible
lmao
they got the brown sickness from it
Morty Moment™️

But like
If youre murderfucking the lore to be better
You can lose multiple people to one god
I dont see why sangui cant fall to slaanesh as well
Hes beauty in khornate
Yeah
also raven guard follow Tzeetch
because birb
yeah
No surprises there
damn it
i think thats literally the onlyr eason
LOL yep
as usual suffers from = "how can we change this legion when they're designed from the ground up to be loyal"
just, why would tzeetch choose them? that feels kinda like a bad pick
honestly tzeetch Salamanders would have been agood pick
tzeetch already likes fire
god
For the Litter box!

The fallen
i think its literally the same as HH
ok so
lion was curious in chaos
and dorian did a tatical strike on his ass
apparently in DH lion was like
the weird kid no one liked
except Dorn
so dorn flanked him and was like 'hey, wanna fuck over the emps' and he agreed
then his entire legion got into a civil war
OHH THE SALAMANDERS ARE FOLLOWING A MINOR CHAOS GOD
Malal
WHOS A FUCKING DRAGON
THAT EXPLAINS
A minor Chaos god a Dragon, a cthan a Dragon
Some people at GW seem to think that dragons need to be evil


Well England and its whole history of Knights vs dragons in stories
I know, poor dragons
The dragons of AoS are all good
What about the Khornate one, Valok the Skull host
I hope Sylvaneth would get Asrai and Forest Dragon
Only remembered it because it's like the one good fw AoS model
AoS has a oddity where most of its model are pretty except the few FW models it has
Near opposite of 40k
Are there any GSC fw models?
Oh yeah true, how old are they?
Damn, younger than I thought alright
2017 for GSC ?
Yes
Almost like AdMech
They existed in fluff before then. But 2017 established what they are now and their army
Bought my first 40K models with the GSC collection
Pog
GSC are good
Good taste
If i take some...
Black, yellow, Red, violet and.... bronze
Plus Rusted Claw sound like one of the more badass clans from what I read, them and the four arned emperor
Theyre all p good but Rusted Claw def rlly cool for nomadic biker gang vibes
Also their trait focuses on jackals which makes them rlly fun
yeah i saw that and the jackals are easily my favourite looking models for the GSC
the wormlings just sounded depressing af
and i dont really get the appeal of the pauper princes
yeah because one of their leaders got headshot right?
the whole thing with initiates putting their fingers in the hole
A ratling sniper tried to kill their patriarch and a magus mr presidented the shot
i love the sub-title of the twisted helix too - "they who swallowed the bitterest pill"
sounds straight out of the matrix
do we know which cult is the one established on Terra with the new shadow throne stuff?
Pauper princes iirc
oh really? thought it would have been the hivecult given how close they are to terra
AH! That would have required GW to know, and remember, their lore
very true
hadnt considered that
also out of curiosity is it fanon or canon that the tyranids are fleeing something?
fanon
woah big acronym, sorry what does that stand for?
Battlefleet Gothic 3
basically they were gonna introduce a new race through the game
but uh
GW said the studio had to finance the game themselves
so they just kinda gave up and never did it
wait, gw was going to reveal a new race, for their own brand, through a developers game that they expected to pay fully out of their own pocket?
Yep!
But like i said it got too hectic so hence why it was scrapped entirely
I know because I'm friends with one of the devs
honestly doesnt surprise me the devs dropped it, i kinda like the games but they got like no support

You are one of the devs Dil!
The aliens were basically gonna be their masters and the Nids were just loose bio organic weapons
Pauper Princes are also p close to Terra. Funnily enough, 4AE already had a cult on terra before shadoe throne too
I'll delete these later tho 
oh thats super boring
please tell me they werent another humanoid alien at least?
we gonna go back to those lizard people being a nid slave race as well?
almost humanoid?
like the guy didnt obviously show me everything because nondisclosure stuff
Bit cringe innit
yeah i remember reading that the 4AE are pretty much all over imperium space because they thought they were all just fine examples of hard working citizens or something
Yeeee
They spread through a mining company
So theyre a bit more everywhere than the other major cults
yeah, helps that they are also incredibly covert even by cult standards right? with barely anyone in their cult being exposed to society at large
Yee
the only big cult i know nothing about is the Glatchian Dynasty
dont think they were mentioned in the codex
Not @ my codex rn so im unsure. Not a major cult of the codex tho
yeah thats what i noticed, not mentioned in the codex but put on the map in the codex
anyone have alist of in universe imperium meat companies?
the only thing i can find are just grox burgers lmao
actually, how fast are grox anyway?
i wouldnt think very fast
Prolly not, they're meant to be like rugged cows
They are big lizards, know to be quite aggressive... Now i didn't had much to do with cows, but that doesn't sound like cows to me
They're 5M long lizards that are quite fast
Though nowadays, not so much
Considering most of them are either lobotomized or sedated 24/7 with drugs
They attack eachother
damn
i was thinking my innerwrym army, the bikers could be ridding grox, or maybe they infected their grox by feeding them infected meat and ride them like that
They are balls of rage and spite that are unique for every part of the body being at least vaguely edible
or their bikes are used for herding
They use them in a different way
Not vaguely, they are all edible and quite tasty too iirc
Grox meat itself is also extremely palatable and nutritious
yeah, they mainly infect meat and crap, but when they do an uprising on a meat processing planet they stole some grox and infected them because it would be harder to get bikes on the planet
You don't know for what they use them do you?
Nope
grox?
I mean the innerwyrm
Nope
the genestealer cult?
Oh we talking GSC ?
||The Cult is known to have spread its influence to other worlds by exporting Grox from the Agri-World of Peregrim's World with Genestealers hidden inside.||
Read it if you want to know what the innerwyrm do with grox
Not really, but we could
oh lmao
Yeah GSC have a lot of ways to spread their infection
They sometimes poison water supplies aswell
We discussed it before, it was me, Skele and Proud
Yeah I remember seeing that conv
Eeehhh, no thanks
i just imagine a meat processing planet, vibing, chillin, sudden 'yo this meat is loookin wierd' and 'hey ryan, why are you wearing chunks of flesh' than boom uprising
tbh genestealer stealer cults are the only xenos army i like
orks are too, eh, and the other ones are too advance for my taste
i honestly dontlike meat, but i adore the innerwyrm, ulta bloodied and violent,
Those many arms put me off
And the things they have in front too
Culttide
someonedraw stewie griffin as a Genestealer cultist
I heard they do mass hugs... Something that make me stay away more
free hugs gang
No lie I love the lore of the Twisted Helix. Sneaking in the "kiss" via medicine.
Also in game the boost to strength makes my Aberents ridiculous
Oh yes
It's so much fun
Honestly my favorite thing I've discovered lately is the Hulk Magus
Their staff gives them a +3 strength
I ran a magus and a acolyte iconward with the Icon of the Cult Ascendant
And got him to like, 7 strength then casted Might From Beyond on himself for 8
He beat a venom to death
He's been lifting and eating his eggs
Alternatively, if you ran a twisted helix magus with the same setup, you can get the free +1 S, then with Cult Magus cast both Mutagenic Deviation on target then Might on himself
Then get a acolyte iconward near him for a s9 magus who gets a +1 to wound
Is it effective? probably not, no
is it really fucking funny?
Yes
My magus solo'd a entire group of incubi in that game after beating their venom to death
Alternatively, instead of helix, you could run Rusted Claw beatdown magus and give him the Metallophagic staff
Incubi vs a single magus armed with his clubbing staff
Track used : Metal Gear Rising Revengeance Ost : It has to be this way
Original clip used : https://youtu.be/7FxAdOxGNmU
Standing here, i realize.
Damn
Should you stuff all of this on a character with 4 wounds who could very well be shot to death by anything if he's outpositioned(or the enemy just has a sniper)?
Absolutely not
will it stop me?
no
Wish I could do something similar with guard 😔
Best I can do is 30 kids beating on a Ct'an shard and winning
Yeee honestly one of the big reasons I like cults is alot of meme potential from characters
I still have to try the Paupers "everytime you kill a acolyte, they drop d6 flamer on you" build
Before codex change
Magus throwing these emo ass punks off his good biomass-filled lawn
What I love doing is using a Magus to cast Otherworldly Strength on a squad of Aberents so now they are hitting on Strength 8 with ap 2 power hammers. I turned my friend's squad of immortals to aluminum cans with a charge
RIP yes
Aberrants do be big slappers
Love the damage 3 hammers
Going to get even better with the next codex, atm they're sooo point costy
Presumably they'll either price lower them, or make them worth their 30pt cost
Hopefully atleast going to T5, or 3w, or smthing
Do you know if, when you use a alchemicus familiar's ability, if double-rolling the biophagus aberrant buff applies the same buff twice or if its's a reroll
That's smthing I've been wondering, and you talk about running aberrants alot so I figured you'd know
Oh wait nvm, It's just rolling twice and choosing one
Rather than what I thought
I've never actually ran the biophagus that I have because elite slots 😩
Yepp
Getting everything I want into elites hurts, I kind of wish aberrants were heavy support for that reason
since uh, the only thing that's even fun, much less 'good' to run in heavy support is the rockgrinder
We should just get Proud Jeanstealer a button that says "ask me about genestealer cults"

I wonder, assuming that the grey knight of slaanesh was a grey knight
how the fuck did the res of the grey knights react
liek that seems like
a dishonor to the entire fucking chapter
Fun fact: that was original supposed to be a full Fight
But someone wasn't feeling Well that day and they improvised
aight fuck it guys
im goin in
im doing all HH books in order
(skipping just a notorious few)
im trying to figure out which ones are DEFINITE skip...
I've heard Battle for the abyss
but other than that, not sure
also
releasing abridged audio books should be illegal
I'm listening to the series on audio book too. Via "methods"
I bought most of them either through audible or humble bundles over the years
But the audible app has gotten so fucking bad that i just got the audiobooks through “methods” as well
whats wrong with the audible app? have never used it but was thinking about getting it so i can listen to 40k stories during workouts
My phone is an iphone 7 so take this with a grain of salt. Every update the app gets worse and worse. Random times the playback will slow down to like 25%, but then will start playing really really fast to catch up to where it used to be. Sometimes i have to hit the play button like 5 times before the app decides to play. Forget trying to import any audiobook files too, it never works. Any support questions always come to “go spend 1,000$ on a new phone”
This app works 100% fine with no problems whatsoever though.
Maybe it works on newer phones but I can’t say.
And how long until they decide to break the app on that phone?
Ive been using 40kaudio.com via Chrome on my phone
that really sucks. i have an 11 pro max so idk if i'll run in to the same issue but id rather not get invested in their ecosystem if that's how it's going to be when my phone gets older
planned obsolescence rip
idk if that's the case specifically for audible it's probably moreso they're lazy and dont want to optimize for older models
It really is a damn shame. I LOVED audible like you wouldn’t believe. The ease of it, the deals, the interactivity.
Yeah that’s probably the case, but why release the updates on the older models at all? The app used to run perfectly.
So what happens to an inquisitor that gets excommunicated?
Like do they end up on the run or what
Generally other inquisitors hunt them down, which is made difficult by the fact that inquisitors have a lot of pull, even when they aren't legally inquisitors anymore
also that information's hard to get everywhere it needs to be
They are instructed to place their gun on the ground and then lie on their stomach with their arms at their sides to assume the heretic retrieval position until a heretic escort bot picks them up.
So it can very quickly turn into a galaxy wide game of cat and mouse
Note there is a low percentage of compliant heretics
Is there a special ordo for hunting down excommunicated inquisitors or is that something the ordos keep internal?
It’s probably just the normal heretic branch
Yep. Also, the requirements for getting excommunicated as an Inquisitor are ridiculously high. An infamous example is an extremist puritan literally doing exterminatus on a world to prevent a rival inquisitor from acquiring a xenos anti-chaos artefact there, which got every ideological leaning of the order to blacklist him
Ordo Hereticus I believe?
What about the scorched earth policy inquisitor that discovered the tyranids?
That had a purpose beyond petty infighting, and I do believe Kryptmann was disgraced in some sense
He was still proven right in the end tho
He absolutely wasn't. Kryptmann's mess gave the Imperium the Octarius war, where two forces that grow off of conflict met each other and just kept getting stronger
Yeah but they’d have eaten earth otherwise.
Exactly
Well, it's an unmanagable fight now or an unmanagable fight later so you have a point
And earth is STRATEGIC VALUE ABSOLUTE.
Man I loved the opening of space marine. That was hilarious.
Yeah holy terra becoming a bug snack is completly out of the question
Here’s a real question. If something threatened earth so much would they make an attempt to relocate the golden throne?
That would be impossible
Why?
largely due to the giant warp rift the Emperor is containing
Could they even if they wanted to?
Why isn’t it mobile in the first place?
if they unplugged it from the webway gate it would blow up a segmentum
With all the crazy things they put on hovers or legs you’d think the palace itself could move let alone the throne.
But if earth is falling would that really matter at that point?
The Imperium does not understand the golden throne
The Imperium will likely never understand it
The only ppl who even slightly understand it are haemonculi
Funnily enough
Probably because its partly xeno tech
Putting a psychic mountain on treads is fine when that mountain doesn't spit out lighting bolts the size of skyscrapers
If need be cut the chunk of earth around the Himalazan mountains and make a fortress monastery like the rock.
Again, that would destroy the sector before they had time to relocate
Didnt big E find it up in the mountains somewhere?
and also accompanying infrastructure that keeps the Imperium barely running
Oh he didn’t create the throne he found it?
If earth is under attack and lossing the imperium is already dead at that point
I’m just saying; something that can move is always better than something stationary.
I'm sure the bloodthirsters trying to crawl out of it would be fine with some renovation
I tought it was bird boy's demons attacking the human webway
I was scrolling through the page on the wiki when I saw this. Was what made me mention it
"Hi I'd like some coffee"
We’ve been trying to reach you about your web way portals extended warranty.
Love how big e is just sitting there
@storm jungle the demon or the sister ?
the Emperor
look at him
hes just suspended up there in a stupid chair
it doesnt look epic at all is what im saying 
Big e just vibin
I'm just imagining the emperor letting out a psychic reverb fart and yeeting the deamon back through the hole.
"By the Skull Throne thats rancid... did you sign a pact with Nurgel... oh ... oh Khorn I'm gonna throw up"
and then the sister is just bamboozled af because nulls can't be effected by this
Lol
So how do Vox communications work?
Like an ordinary radio?
I heared they use the warp somehow is that true
they don't
That's astropaths
They are psykers who use their abilities to send messages across the warp to other astropaths. The kicker is that those messages are pictograms I think?
Now the thing is depending of writer it may depends but usually yeah its pictograms
every time i re-read the horus heresy, i root for horus not to turn even tho it always ends up the same 😢
When the got to Davin I was the same
listen to magnus, lupercal! erebus is a fuck!
#FuckErebus
it really cant be overstated how much erebus sucks, it really cant

Don’t you mean Orabus?
you think we'll get more substantial info on the dark krakens anytime soon? found out about them about a month and quickly sucked down all the information available. i want to say they're my favorite astartes chapter but they don't really have much media so i can't actually... but thematically they check all the boxes for me - terrific color scheme, ocean-themed, and a salamanders (my favorite astartes) successor chapter
Love purple
Probably not, most chapters like these are designed to be filler chapters with a couple blurbs of lore unfortunately :(
But there are a fair amount of filler chapters that eventually get a lot of fleshed out lore
i.e Doom Eagles or the Badab War chapters
i'm going to start a thing on here where we say something nice about the parts of 40k we hate, so here's mine: i think the eldar aesthetic is really cool and sleek
I'll join
Space Wolves serve as strong narrative foils to the more centralized aspects of the imperium
i like it for their vehicles, but idk i can't get behind it for their troops. Outside of the like, warlock/farseer aesthetic
i love that
I really do like Imperial factions as a whole but can never fully enjoy them due the overmarketing of that one faction 
another one for you: despite my opinion that he's used too much, nurgle is a really good choice to show off how horrific chaos can be without going too far
I think hes the best and vermintide really sold me on him in general
unlike khorne or others you can just make giant infected structures/aesethetics to show how wide his corruption really goes
i just want more of the horrors of the other chaos gods in warhammer games
Khorne had the chair for awhile before Nurgle came in so i hope Tzeentch or Slaanesh is next tbh
tzeentch I hope is the next big thing
since madness and deception would make for some hella interesting content
(potentially)
also the thousands sons have the best aesthetic out of all the chaos marines (in my opinion)
Age of Recknoning was peak Tzeentch content, at least aesthetically. The Ravenhost are still my favorite Warband to this day
wait so there are space wolf successor chapters now?
Yes, like there are also salamanders successors now
Both chapters were extremely unstable and pretty much hadn't nay successor, since that limited the creation of SM for fans to buy minis they pulled out a cawl from the pocket and solved it
ima assume they are all primaris and that cawl managed to fix the problem with the canis helix
wait what was wrong with the salamanders' geneseed?
Indeed, all the successors of those two chapter were formed with the indomitus crusade and the grey guys...
Extremely unstable, the radiations of their worlds messed up heavily
Like with the space wolves it seems that only the people from that world are suitable for their geneseed
with the space wolves its a flaw with the canis helix itself. which is a core part of their geneseed
Turns out that living, and surviving, on a highly volcanic world with huge solar radiation change you in interesting way uh
i thought it just made their skin black and eyes red
Kinda, canis helix is indeed part of it, but it can only work on fenrisian people, if you try to implant it in others they simply die, now, why fenrisian can handle it? Something something is sus, and maybe very old reason
That is what nocturne's radiations do to Sm yes, and the skin thing is because the organ they have try to protect them by darkening the skin
where the wolf brothers from feniris?
The first recruits? Probably
Cawl went kidnapping people all around the galaxy for those marines
the wolf brothers all became wolfen and had to be put down iirc
And some were taken even before horus betrayl iirc
Ah, that chapter, no, they might have been a group of space wolves that got a world for building a new chapter, it is one of the modus operandi for making a new chapter, you take some marines, you give them a world, they multiply taking recruits from such world and boom, new chapter
The problem with that was that those people didn't had... something, like the fenrisian have, to stabilize the canis helix in the geneseed
With those people i meant the recruits
that lead the space wolves to ask the sanquinairy priest hood to fix their geneseed
??
yeah one of them set up a lab and started work on stabilizing the canis helix
I think that they never saw it as a problem, unlike the blood angels, that tried many times to fix their flaws
no they did. magnus himself destoried the lab and its data and killed the priest working on it
^
its one of the major points of the Fang book
but now it doesnt really matter since they can make successors anyway
good job GW 
yup
Oh, just found info, it wasn't a sanguinary priest, it was a space wolf high priest
But interesting enough, bjorn would have destroyed the lab if magnus didn't that first
That show that we were both correct, some wanted to fix it, others to not fix it
it was a highly controversial project
the canis helix was made my the emperor himself so changing it was seen as a major taboo by many
Black Dragons have been a thing for at least 15 years...
Yes, and the status is?
Nearly declared excomunicate because their geneseed is bonkers
but the matter is, Salamanders successor chapters are not technically "new"
Black Dragons were only confirmed Salamanders successors last year 
Like space wolves aren't "new"
granted, they've had a lot more in the Ultima Founding that they ever had before
There are actually few space wolves successor before ultima founding, but all ended badly
Same for salamanders
afaik only the wolf brothers where started
they never tried again
they where only going to after they fixed the canis helix
its why they are a non codex compliant chapter with anymore than 1k SMs
tho exact numbers are unknown
I might be late to the party but...are dreadnaughts (aside from the lobotomy) are kind of like...hyper servitors?
It was just a question 
And mine were just answers
also I said >aside from the lobotomy<
happens
But no, they aren't servitors, they are more suits, see them as iron man suits just permanents
but the space marine in a dreadnaught is basically stripped of most what made them even remotely human and every dreadnaught line I've heard/read seems like they are even more indoctrinated then regular space marines
especially from that one dow 2 dreadnaught (who started as regular marine in the campaign)
I think only the sarcophagus itself is permanent?
but it can be placed in dreadnaught after dreadnaught if need be
Removing a sarcophagus from a dreadnought is in general a traumatic event, so it isn't really done
ah, I'm not really well-versed in that part of the lore, sorry
okay I probably lack a little knowledge about how dreadnaughts are built too 😛
like, why are Redemptor called "Primaris dreadnaughts"? The sarcophagus appears to be the same, just up-armoured?
In general dreadnought tend to go crazy in due time, something about their minds simply not grasping their new bodies or something...
so couldn't you intern any firstborn marine in one?
"Although a Dreadnought can be damaged and disabled, it can survive unless the actual armoured tomb containing the occupant's form is destroyed." (Imperial Armour 2, page 131)
So you're spot on there
I'd say fluffwise there's no reason you can't
Oh, one thing about dreadnought i just remembered, among SM it is seen as an honour to be entombed in a dreadnought, among custodes is ill seen lol
I think the 'primaris dreadnaught' are called that because
- they are basically new and were introduced with the primaris
- have several new quirks
- are (because of their introduction) mostly used by primaris (so far)
We've seen in fluff firstborn wear primaris armour with little issue, so I feel distinction of primaris is mainly for tabletop.
A dreadnought of any stripe is piloted using a Mind Impulse Unit
nothing primaris exclusive bout that
iirc they are also hella powerfull. so powerfull in fact they tend to burn out their pilots quickly
^that was the mentioned quirk
Yeah, their reactors are very powerful
they put enormous strain on their pilots and just burn them up
which is of course a double edged sword
But yeah, if a SM of any stripe can use a Mind Impulse Unit, he theoretically can be fit in any dread.
i mean there is no reason a first born couldnt be put in one of the new classes
Its basically just grimdank
you can as easily write in any lore line to explain that theres no thing stopping it but hey

tho its likely they would die even quicker once plugged in
that is literally what I am saying

tbh its likely just due to the fact the primaris and the new dreads are so new to the setting that we havent seen stuff like this happen yet
there also likely isnt many of these new dreads to go around rn
This is it, i'm putting a skitarii in a dreadnought
Ah, not even a skitarii, a guard
well, there are at least not many limbs to cut off, just a few screws to remove
(with the skitarii I mean of course)
Do you think the emperor will ever recover and leave the golden throne? If so do you think He and at least a few more primarchs will become playable models again?
100%
but id say deffo in a few years
Big E will only get off the throne when 40k is most likely gonna be nuked tho
so thats awhile off
Primarch minis on the other hand?
we will probably see more primarchs come back at least
the lion is already a cool forge world mini
i want to see what he would look like in plastic
we will most likely see angron come back first as the holy prophecy says
no
I dont think so
I imagine lockdowns did the hobby gud
i think its just in that weird period where it's going to get a big overhaul
but they have to devote all their resource into that
so they can't do big updates to the current version
kind of like kill team was
like are we talking new faction as in world eaters and emperor's children, or new as in completely new?
Pretty likely if ur timeframe is infinitum
40k isnt going anywhere anytime soon
And we get new armies p often
It just depends on ur definition of new I suppose
Dark Mechanicus has been the rumor for years in 30k, but again, years
Very possible. Those kinds of plans can take years to manifest anyways
yeah, GW plans a lot of things at least a couple of years in advance
Personally I think 30k is going in a good direction
They’re releasing little miniature books of certain battles, with a new set of models to go with it, and rules to play that battle
don't forget the leaked box set
Oh yes, the eventual plastic stuff
Is it bad that i want the Emperor's Shadows to actually have some lore? Or heck, be featured in future 40K media?
Somehow, i imagine them shouting their attack names due to being a Space Marine chapter with Japanese influences
What's supposed to be in it?
a plastic spartan assault tank, a new plastic contemptor dreadnought, a bunch of mk 6 marines and a couple of plastic praetors i think
@lofty storm
so what was that gun the ogryn had in the game play trailer?
the one that kinda looks like an old nam era nad launcher?
ripper gun
this was a single shot
break action
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and afaik rippers are automatic
idk i cant find any info on it
what the fuck is word bearer's named characters lore like
like, emperors children is just either super bad ass or sociopath
iron warriors are stubborn fuckers
umm they where the first to fall to chaos
have worshiped it on their home world where lorgar was found
also erebus isnt actully erebus
so lorgar, went from chaos to loyalist to chaos
when he was growing up erebus was the golden boy of his community. so the fucker that is now erebus killed him and took his name
how the fuck was taht supposed to not fail
the only reason the imperial heralds didnt wipe that world clean of life is due to lorgar being there
the imperial heralds are the original name of the word bearers
Charismatic and Manipulative demagogues if they're focused on Daemons, or Zealous and borderline-psychotic if we're looking at late heresy
if you're looking for adjectives to describe them
^
makes scenes
if you want the short sense
"they're lovable fucking assholes"
but like
in this way:

alpha legion, is alpha legion
People shit on Erebus but the man has a tongue of pure silver
and a mind sharper than a razor
likely due to sticking it up every demon ass he finds 😛

kmai
lmao
i kinda like how every legion kinda has a similar personality
If you want to see how Erebus can manipulate people without honeyed words, read the Kharn vs Erebus fight, but focus on what Erebus was doing in the pits before Kharn showed up.
A lot of people focus on Kharn beating up Erebus, but the entire time Erebus was pushing Kharn's buttons until he got him to do what he wanted (fully submit himself to Khorne)
erebus should have died there
No, he shouldn't have. While it may be satisfying for some, ADB's goal there was to show how manipulative and slimy Erebus can be, as well as Kharn being a badass.
fair
I know folks really don't like Erebus
hell is erebus even relivant to the current lore events?
But he's got a purpose, and he's well written for it
Sort of
He's in a position where he's kind of... already completed his main quest
and is just fucking around with side quests rn

lol
Recently he's uh
gone a sacrifice spree
with the 13th Black Crusade
killing a ton of worlds for the dark gods
but other than that, he's just big chillin
wtf is lorgar are any of the other traitor primarchs doing rn?
Lorgar is fist fighting a bird
lol
And losing
its corvus right?
Looking for his keys in the iron cage.
dropped them in a grate, been stuck there for years.
did he really lock himself in?
aka reach the final stage of all imperial fist/ iron warriors progression
He has an empire in segmentum tempstus
currently planning smth with Honsou
Has been focusing on expanding IW numbers
hm
part of me wants to know what captain danger noddle is up to. the rest of me is fine not knowing
no I think lorgar was the biggest mistake
Fulgrim is crying in a corner because he got his feelies hurt
by fulgrim i mean demon fulgrim
still?
well he is know for being melodramadic
is angron still locked ina box?
he most recent thing he's gone and done against the Imperium is literally design a bagle worm but for forgeworlds
Pert's just dicking around 
wait like the robot worms they used in the dark age of tech?
im liking pert more and more
a bagle worm is a computer worm
but yes
what he did
was design a lined of accursed scrap code
that when it infected a FW's comms
resulted in massive, sandworm, like beasts made of the wires of the forgeworld
to sprout of the ground in 7 days, corrupting the world
he sounds like my kind of guy lol
Memes may rag of Pert but he's a real g 
malware in 40k is something else lmao
i love how deathguard can make computer virsues and crap lmao
nurgle
i mean
like demon computer viruses
a viruses is a viruses i guess
'a servitor getting ill'
i wanna make a computer virus themed deathguard killteam
speaking of the deathguard. isnt their champ suppost to have an amazing voice or is that just a joke/meme?
i know one of the great unclean one has like a beautiful humming voice
daemons are weird
yeah the demons of nurgle have amazing moral
daemons actully
true actually
a demon and a daemon are 2 very different things
i still wonder if GW knew that or they just thought the a made it look cooler
I know it’s gross and fucked up but if I HAD to worship a chaos god I would worship Nurgle. He’s the only one that truly loves his worshippers. And even though you’d become a pestilent mass of diseased flesh, at least you’d do it painlessly and in great, jovial spirits.
Also apparently the Death Guard call nurglings ‘little lords’ cause they look like their papa and if that isn’t the cutest thing ever
The hard part is not vomiting your guts out first or going insane from disease
Or living from said disease
Also you need to literally accept the fact you will end up killing countless numbers of men women and children in one of the slowest and painful ways possible
But after that you are in da squad
Oh for sure. Though I’d rather have that then become a Tzeentchian chaos spawn or be subject to Hellraiser-level and worse Slaaneshi stuff.
The ruinous powers are all pretty fucked honestly haha which is why I would never worship a Chaos god willingly it’s just I had to I’d be going for Papa Nurgle.
Also unrelated but every time I see your avi it makes me giggle lol
Tzeetch it’s required to be insane
tzeentch is the only one I can see myself going for if only because I'd totally be susceptible to getting memed into it
Saved by Slaanesh babyyy
forbidden knowledge is tasty
undivided is pretty based indeed
Being red
I just want a god that loves and appreciates me, even if he might be a Plague god
As much as the emperor may care, I'm pretty sure he's got bigger problems than our little hive world to notice.
we'll have to make do until he can get time to check his email backlog
This is a very loaded question, and definitely hard to answer because it’s all relative in a grim dark universe. We all (should) know the Imperium aren’t the good guys but what would you say the most ‘evil’ major loyalist Space Marine chapter is? Not based purely on actions but also motivations.
Deathwatch? Black Templars?
marines malevolent hands down
theyre about as close to a chaos space marine chapter that still??? follows the imperium
If only major chapters, I suppose Deathwatch
Its hard to say really
Problem is that most chapters do evil, it just depends on where your sympathies most lie
Yeah I wouldn’t classify Malevolant as major but they def fit the bill for sure.
And yeah they’re all varying levels of fuckedness lol
While Marines Malevolent sort of have it in their name
If you're classifying "evil" as "malevolent"
I'd honestly wager the cursed founding minotaurs
Evil is nebulous in the grim dark context but I feel like a chapter explicitly created to do genocide like the Deathwatch kinda fit what I was asking
by cursed founding minos I mean these guys
I vote Deathwatch just for their role in nearly snuffing the Ynnari plan, which is perhaps the only plan capable of actually killing a chaos god
not these fellas
yea
I say the cursed founding Minotaurs because in their fluff they genuinely... take joy at the suffering of others. Be it friend or foe.
The Marines Malevolent might be dicks who obey orders to the letter, but they're just there to get the job done.
No matter the cost.
The Cursed Founding Minotaurs have been noted to actively pursue maximum casualties for the sake of it.
well I'd say MM to an extent cause theyve pissed off entire segments of the imperium to the point of being persona non grata
I mean I know even some ultramarines can be right evil fecks with pride enough to make eldar blush.
personally I'd say the most evil ones can be corrupt gverment officials
like the mechanicus wont give them stuff, the munitorum wont give them stuff, the ministorum wont give them stuff
Is that they aren't really doing it... for the purpose of pissing people off
it's a wonder how they secure gear
They get told to do something, they do it, if someone's got a problem, they don't give a damn.
The Imperium itself is evil I’m mainly just asking about the baddiest of the baddies in terms of loyalist Space Marine chapters
The cursed minos will actively ignore command-trees and battle-plans completely to simply maximize carnage.
There's also the fact that MM are still around and the cursed minos magically disappeared in m41, only for the bronzed minos to magically reappear 👀
I guess that also begs the question if extent counts or not
yeah
I mean we're all past technicality since none of the above are major (Im assuming major being as popular enough in lore to get their own codex)
so it's just more thoughts thereof
the new minotaurs are too now that I think about it

enters terra
destroys entire hivespire to root out Chaos cult
tells Imperial Fists to suck a dick
does not elaborate
leaves
Yeah it was for codex stuff but the 2 obscure answers are quite interesting tbh
I mean I'm just gonna say ultramarines because I'm pretty sure they've edited the hard working guardsman and mortal heroes out of their historical novels to make themselves look better.
Just say lamenter casualties.
"and the 30 ultrmaines kill the 10'000 orks in a knife fight, without any backup or artilery support at all."
you're thinking of bronzed minos
these are ketchup and mustard minos
Oh
no lamenters cucking yet
what about something like grey knights
Oooh
the org itself isnt evil
that's a good one
but the measures around it are
but do we consider the GK responsible for the actions of ordo malleus?
like some bit of lore places that you need 1 billion psykers to make 1 grey knight
and you need a billion people to produce 1 psyker
Motivations are important also
obv the math doesnt add up when you think on it literally
also the fact they/the inq will straight up murder anyone who hears sees or knows of the grey knights
for no good reason
Irl undercover cops have a higher chance to become dirty because of what they are exposed to and must tolerate. The same could be said about grey knights and the ordo malleus. They are constantly in contact with daemons and the warp.
other than super secrets
grey knights have constant mind wipes for that very reason
Add on the fact no ones “good” in 40k and things get ugly.
prety sure grey knight brain damage is common
so I was more thinking on the collateral bodycount that piles up just by the chapter existing
from the silencing and the process of trialing new members
black templars probley have high collateral
and thats before the purges of people that look "off"
I'd say by motivation... the Carcharodons very much a malevolently motivated chapter.
Is it even collateral damage if it doesn’t exceed the daily sacrifice to keep the emperor alive?
well the grey knights help fuel that to a degree
if you fail but live you pretty much golden throned
cause of the SECRETS
There are far worse punishments and fates.
At least you still serve a purpose.
Someone has to go in that blender.
The Minotaurs brutalize and slaughter because they are the attack dogs of the high lords
The Marines Malevolent cause civilian casualties because they only care about the order, not the means
The Carcharodons torture, conquer, enslave, and kill in the outer realms because they can
So yeah, if we're counting motivations, I'd put the Carcharodons up there
motivation wise I'd say the grey knights and deathwatch arent exactly up there
unless you're a demon, or xeno
grats on getting the chat alight with conversation
Generally speaking the more you operate with the centralized imperium the less directly malevolent your motivations are
whereas the others cause more harm to imperium as well
Chapters that are less under supervision probably are much more malevolent in their motivation
which chapter got ork snipered by the inquisition
Celestial Lions
oh right right
What was that space marine chapter that accidentally was worshipping a chaos god?
also Silver Skulls to a lesser extent
you're gonna need to specify 
Then declaimed war on chaos after they were kicked out of thr imperium after an inquisitor saw their cannibalism ritual and the accidentally killed said inquisitor
Declared war*
So now the imperium is hinting them down while they are hunting down chaos
flesh eaters?
They aren’t considered loyalist
Also I think flesh eaters is too on the nose
Yeah nope
Not them
i've sadly put very little research into space marines
Are you sure that’s sad?
yeah nah it aint, i mostly focused on guardsmen regiments
I just know Slaanesh shit and nothing else lmao
tau aesthetic is iconic
If you're talking about Flesh Eaters, they're still very much considered loyal
Yeah not the flesh eaters
Question are tau or eldar closer to Starcraft Protoss? Or perhaps another faction?
I’m Pretty sure they are yellow? They have that wierd color split thing
gut feeling is tau
The other chapter I can think of that are cannibals are excoriators
but prolly a mix
but they're loyal too
Damn I really like the blood eagles, their design is actually really cool
They are the only blood angels anything I actually like
Damn I hate blood angels
Oh yeah
Everyone likes lamenters
I legit forgot they were blood angels because how unique and cool they are
And depressing
OH I WAS THINKING ABOUT YHR SONS OF MALICE I THINK
God I really really like the hyper religious space marine chapters aesthetics tbh
Like melting holy candles on their armor, literal books Worth of holy parchment stamped on their bodies
Damn I want flame falcon army
How long would the yoink war between The Blood Raven's and Trazyn be?
Eternal
remember
this is lore accurate
"Always remember that the "loyalist" tech priests are only about as loyal as the distance and relative firepower of the nearest inquisitor and their give a damn levels are always below that.'
From where it is lore accurate?
have you read anything including techpriests, skitarii, mechanicus and the rest of the imperium?
Yes
these motherfuckers are so petty they will get longer leg augments to be the tallest in the meeting
And that phrase isn't lore accurate
They can be pretty petty that is true
Did you heard of mezoa?
I guess they aren't really loyal too then
Like with SM smh
They were super loyal, until they weren't lol
And this all because plot demanded
Same with primaris
yeah or like the Flesh Tearers
without plot-carapace those guys would have fallen to khorne long ago lmao
"controlling muh rage" my ass
I remember reading of a flesh tearer that fell to chaos and was present in an arena... Something with honshu or whatever his name was
Also blood angels fall in that category too
Yeah, SM that can go berserkers that a khorne berz would be scared of them too but yeah, they don't get corrupted no no
this
but at the same time due to the leeway the mechanicus gets
are the custodes and sos still fighting in the broken webway ?
Nah, they pulled out long ago
On top of powering the Astronomicon Emps is powering a barrier to block Chaso from flooding into Terra via the Webway
Avoiding another Eye of Terror on Terra
so are the memes about the nids running from something worse a confirmed lore fact or just bs?
It's bullshit in the finest 40k way, which is that it's essentially just fanfic
But it's one of those things that 'could' be true
So it's w/e
thought so
and imo the nids lore is better. as it makes them into an intergalactic predetor that has cought sight of prey
Tau codex coming soon right
Yes
I'm hoping for more lore on 4th sphere expansion's chaos corruption
it would be
supremely cathartic
January/February with GSC/Custodes
to see an ethereal caste get a gift from papa nurgle
Also doubt, the main tau writer recently confirmed they cant rlly get corrupted as we know it
Influencee yes
Corrupted not so
there is no justice in this world, only pain
i thought the tau had little connection to the warp
That is true
oh well, i just hope the lore from it is good
Last i read up on it, 4th sphere was getting 're-educated' back on tau homeworld
I can share the excerpt of the tau falling to the influence of khorne, at least until 7 ethereals were mustered if you want
That was before Phil's recent statement
Which will likely be the trend for the future
They certainly have before
I hope they will again
I think you just want to tau salt
I want to see Commander Farsight descend like an angel before the Tau masses and free them from the ethereals
and then all hell break loose as a tyranid swarm invades and a tomb awakening happens
It is still canon though, heretic astartes 8 ed codex iirc
in all honesty I'm just interested to see what they'll do with 4th sphere and 5th sphere stuff
4th sphere is definitely an interesting topic, that i too would like to be developed
and any more lore on farsight is always welcome
Oh also the return of Titus
was very awesome
Yes, the excerpt with tau falling under the influence of khorne is from the 8 ed chaos astartes codex, which, afaik is the most recent one for them
Imagine a tau ripping and tearing out of their battle suit in order to engage in honorable melee combat cuz of khorne corruption
That is too much grimderp, they simply close in to shoot people in da face
It kinda is?
BFG3?
oh you mean the TT not the video game
nah the videogame
basically long story short
the plans were all set for the 3rd game
but GW said the company has to fund the game itself without any financial backing from GW
so uh
they understandably didnt go with it 
yeah the first 2 didnt do very well
it did?
but not as nearly as it should have
so its a bit of a tricky busines ssituation alas
1 did ok. 2 was a let down
Yeah 2 is just a upgrade of 1 p much
tyranid campaign is best campaign
Theyre nearly the same game
"HOLY EMPEROR I CAN HEAR THEM IN THE WALLS"
are we talking about the same BFG2? the one with the massive bugs and balancing issues?
same
a joke
Wildly imbalanced
Yeah
Ah yes
Megamind Navy players sitting in a corner and going to sleep then winning
Or admech
wasnt balancing problems the main downfall of the TT version as well?
so any idea what the average age of a SM force commander is?
BFG2 is excellent tbh, it's a really well made game
just def not one you'd host like. big mp stuff in. it's a smol game at the end of the day
Yee
Its also like.
Vaguely unfinished?
Not in a broken way but
Its like theres clear signs of planned expansion that never happenef
Yee it feels like if TWWH ended at warhammer 1
tbh BFG2's only problem was its multiplayer
it's fun for coop at least


