#40k-lore-chat

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vast frigate
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Demons rather but yknow

scenic bolt
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just kinda pop in, clear up a mess and pop out

vast frigate
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They arrive in times most dire

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Allegedly lead by Ferrus Manus

scenic bolt
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essentially

rose thorn
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Ohh

plush mason
vast frigate
plush mason
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ofc wasnt his hands made of metel or something?

vast frigate
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He drowned a necron construct in magma

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The necrodermis tried to survive and latched onto his arms

plush mason
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so it melted and fused to his arms?

vast frigate
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It skidaddled and left the construct to melt

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Necrodermis is living metal

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It is used to shape necron armor etx

plush mason
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oh i know next to nothing about the necrons other than they are older than the oldest shit and want to kill everything

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and they are more or less the reason the universe is fucked

plush mason
vast frigate
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Metal lmao

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Look up molten galium

plush mason
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oh

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so necrons=terminator 2000 kinda

vast frigate
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Only their armor

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Their plating sits over their skeletal frames

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If the frame gets damage the necrodermis tries to repair the hole

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Theyre completelt coated with it tho

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And it can take colors

marsh grail
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Exactly they can join the suicide squad and go on the most dangerous missions in the hope that they die.

plush mason
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lol

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cranial bombs included

marsh grail
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I mean that’s honestly what I imagine it being like.

plush mason
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yeah

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btw ogryn have the minds of like 3 year olds right?

marsh grail
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It widely varies since writers are inconsistent.

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It might help to think of them as the most intelligent dog breed

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Since they have an upper mental capacity limit but an old dog certainly is smarter than a puppy

plush mason
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ok so they could have the brain power needed to both commit a crime and to understand the consept of being convicted

marsh grail
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Perhaps. Perhaps not

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It could also be like Lenny from of mice and men

plush mason
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dont they weigh over a ton?

marsh grail
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I think so

plush mason
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thats just horrifying

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hmm maybe the ogryn we saw in the trailor was a bone head

marsh grail
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It must be

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For the lore to match up with us a normal human controller

plush mason
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yeah iirc the bone heads are near human level intellect

marsh grail
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Yeah think like 50-80 IQ or something. 100 is average right?

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80s being reserved for bodyguards most likely.

plush mason
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irl unknown has less than half of the world's pop has been tested

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imho 50-80 is a better theoritical average than the current 100-115

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but yeah as for the ogryn its funny the smart ones are called bone heads as that is normally used to describe a dumbass lol

marsh grail
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I was looking stuff up on elephants and their brain is massive and they have extra neurons but they are mostly for controlling their bodies so aren’t smarter than us.

plush mason
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big bodies take a lot of effort to control

marsh grail
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So since our brains are most likely the same as ogryns that would help explain why they don’t have lower mental capacity as humans it’s just used for their big bodies.

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Also muscle usage percentage control.

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So they have less neurons for voluntary thought.

plush mason
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"So I asks meself, what would Colonel Stracker do? Easy I says, ed' probably yell at me for bloody standin' about and not smashin' things with me mates. So that's what I did. They even gave me this ere shiny medal when I was through."
— Specialist Nift, Bone'ead 1st class, speaking candidly about his promotion

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oh so bone'eads are geneticly enchanced

marsh grail
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If they can do it to a human to make a space marine they can sort of do it to an ogryn

plush mason
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hell i use to thing all the ogryn where like that

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but no

marsh grail
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Some aren’t worth the effort

plush mason
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no i mean i thought the ogryn where just guardsmen that had been genemogged into what they are

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ofc its a lot more complicated than that

plush mason
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lol

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so if the SM have no fear

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that means they arent brave

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in fact thats true of most of the imperium's most powerfull forces

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ok so i just read Sigismund's last words

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what an utter badass

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You will die as your weakling father died...

Soulless

Honourless

Weeping

Ashamed”

-Sigismund’s last words to Abaddon

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btw

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what exactlly happened to horus' soul?

barren tapir
dense glen
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Horus got sent to the Shadow Realm

crisp heath
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Its much sad

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Horus is such a fun guy

barren tapir
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Quite bald for you to say that... Bold, i meant bold...

crisp heath
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He is my second favorite primarch

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Well he jumps between first and second

serene jungle
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Most intelligent dogbreed seems about right for Ogryn

signal hill
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they are also about as loyal

plush mason
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so is there any lore on how the imperium handles instances of fratricide?

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i image such things would be fairly common on most battle fields in the 40k universe

cerulean wagon
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Depends on whos in charge, which varies region to region

plucky moth
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Yeah skelly he means regions where the imperium is in charge smilezpyre

plush mason
storm jungle
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the Imperium is held together by lazy writing 🙏

rose thorn
storm jungle
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Yes.

plush mason
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lol

rose thorn
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Lmao

final spruce
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Well done

plush mason
crisp heath
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Necrons are cool

plush mason
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Necrons are what happends when you base an alien race off the grumpy old man that yells at everyone lol

rose thorn
crisp heath
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They actually treat humans really well in some dynasties

rose thorn
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*As long as they worship the necrons

plush mason
crisp heath
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Don't need worship just need to fulfill tasks

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But you get schooled, fed, and housed in exchange

rose thorn
plush mason
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so DOW1 had a unite of necron called the pariahs which where necron human hybrids. where those canon?

rose thorn
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They would literally do anything to feel above other people

crisp heath
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Pariah are in a weird canon spot rn

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Not exactly canon but are still in universe as pet projects of crypteks

plush mason
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i see

storm jungle
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Yeee tho largely they are retconned

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BUT

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since literally everyone agrees they are cool af you can just ignore that stupid decision by GW

crisp heath
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True!

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One of my dynasties crypteks has some

plush mason
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im kinda curious on how they are made

storm jungle
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We dont really know but id assume its painful lol

crisp heath
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^

storm jungle
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since you are basicaly a diet-necron

plush mason
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ima headcanon it as a 40k version of the cybermen from doctor who

crisp heath
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We know it's part of crypteks discovering the same process necrons where put through by the C'tan so it comes with soul removal

barren tapir
crisp heath
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How?

barren tapir
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Necrons can be attacked with warp, pariah cannot

crisp heath
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Necrons are taller and can regenerate where humans are weak flesh

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Oh ah

barren tapir
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Making a necron a blank would give them immunity from warp, and with their tech they have immunity from physical

crisp heath
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True

storm jungle
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Arent necrons already immune?

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they dont even have souls

barren tapir
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Nope

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Why do you think that they hate the eldar? Or chaos

crisp heath
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Necrons don't have a good way to deal with psychic

storm jungle
barren tapir
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Or the blackstone fortress, which how are they called by the eldar?

storm jungle
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Yeah but necrons never really needed a counter against chaos

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their weaponry is already OP as it is

crisp heath
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Which is why removal of praiahs sucked

barren tapir
# storm jungle Because long history?

Yes, but less long history and more that eldars were used as weapons against them since they are extremely vulnerable to warp, which eldar use even to go to take a shit

barren tapir
barren tapir
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Blanks on the other hand actively repulse warp

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And with that chaos, but that is too reasonable for the imperium to get and still try to kill blanks

storm jungle
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Hmmm think

glad prism
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Look, I get them being potentially subject to warp shenanigans, but not really to any great effect outside of someone casting psychic powers on them. But things like ferric blight make me want to punch whoever thought to write about it.

plush mason
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so im playing warhammer 40k battlesector and i just encountered a nid called a thornback. are those a newer bio form?

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at first i thought it was a tyrant guard

atomic pelican
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Nah theyve been around

plush mason
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they almost look like a mini carnifex

rose thorn
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Hey who ws the first noise marine again?

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I can’t remember if he actually had a personality or not

storm jungle
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opens copy of Fulgrim

storm jungle
plush mason
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ok so what is this angelican they keep talking about in battlesector?

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i assume its the name of the blood angels main stronghold on baal

rose thorn
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That face

rose thorn
plush mason
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its a face only a follower of slaanesh can make

rose thorn
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He knew

storm jungle
rose thorn
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He 100% knew

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The moment he picked up that gun his new obsession

plush mason
storm jungle
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Nobody is expert on marines trust me lmao

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but yeah its their fortress monastery

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Lexicanum is your friend!

errant mauve
plush mason
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in both senses of the word at that lol

lofty storm
rose thorn
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God fucking Genestealer cults are doing more damage to the imperium then chaos has done ever

signal hill
gaunt vector
# plush mason ok so what is this angelican they keep talking about in battlesector?

Its their chapter's Fortress Monestary. It was the home base of the entire Blood Angels Legion pre codex. A lot of it was lost/ unexplored because there just werent enough marines for the entire thing but due to recent renovations in anticipation of the tyrannids, by the tyranids and after the tyranids its regained a fair ammount of what had been lost. Its also where they keep Sanguinius. Mephiston's library is within the Arx but the chapter's Recclusiam is at a secret location on Baal. Outside of the Blood Angels Chapter only IX legion Chapter masters are allowed to know where it is. Even Gabriel Seth respects that rule.

rose thorn
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is there a special name for grey knight's powersword

errant mauve
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nemesis [weapon name]

rose thorn
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thx

gaunt vector
rose thorn
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thx i just needed know the name for the bit for my Silver Knight of Slaanesh

storm jungle
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the Imperial simping on this thread is killing me

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really seeing the grey 😔

eternal ledge
storm jungle
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NOOO-

tender igloo
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I like the imperium because it's fun to pretend to be evil

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End of story

storm jungle
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Decepticon Moment™️

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and I approve 🙏

peak hamlet
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I like the imperium because big cathedral. Thats it basically

storm jungle
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Also guns are cool

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at least thats my reasoning

peak hamlet
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Also they are responsible for csm so thx for that big e 🙏

tender igloo
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I also love my space knights/monks

storm jungle
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okay this made me laugh tho

final spruce
barren tapir
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Well, ok, this is true, we have heroes like ibram gaunt and assholes like... check notes... Pretty much anyone else

barren tapir
# storm jungle

This is both ignorant and awful, tau treat humans better than other humans, and even humans that aren't imperium treat humans better than the imperium...

lofty storm
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I like the Imperium because they personify everything I believe in real life.

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That religion, religious organizations and zealots are dangerous and evil people.

errant mauve
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It follows the inverse chad wojak law

storm jungle
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like I admit I dont like posting here weekly about how the Imperium is bad but jesus christ

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its so fascinating how defensive they get

errant mauve
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The more likely a faction is to be portrayed as "chad" the less chad the fanbase is

lofty storm
errant mauve
lofty storm
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😂

smoky mauve
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All i wanna do is paint my golden boys and hum the pillarmen theme

lofty storm
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This is a good goal.

smoky mauve
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Its acheivable within my lifetime is what counts lmao

lofty storm
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I'm enjoying painting my human extremist religious zealots. 🙏

final spruce
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I don't enjoy the Imperium much, I like the guards because they are amongst the more reasonable Imperium factions, more utilitarian

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Reasonable for 40k with all the grimdark that is

storm jungle
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The Guard have all those good moments

lofty storm
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Guard is the most human experience in 40K.

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The absolute insanity and larger than life scale of death happening all around.

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The insane odds.

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Just your fleeting moments wondering what the point of life even is until ripped apart by a Tyranid.

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🙏

final spruce
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It's mostly that that kept me to 40k

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What got me in was the eldars

gaunt vector
# storm jungle

its both. the collective salt of the 40k fanbase is singlehandedly keeping cheetos in business

lofty storm
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I got sucked in by the Astartes animation, but more than anything it's the environment and history of pre-30K that I liked so much. The stories of the Old Ones and shit are just so cool.

gaunt vector
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I like the Imperium because I like the cool space people who beat massive odds. Also the way that the take medieval European culture/ architecture and then project it into space is IMMENSELY cool

lofty storm
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Very cool.

barren tapir
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-.-

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It seems that the only one that don't like the imperium now is me

gaunt vector
storm jungle
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Just ignore the religion!

barren tapir
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I can appreciate the guard

gaunt vector
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and the Knight houses being actual knight houses but with tech now

barren tapir
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But pretty much everything else is kinda bad

gaunt vector
barren tapir
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I don't consider the Ad. Mech. part of the imperium just to clarify

barren tapir
gaunt vector
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the imperium doesn't need to be good to be cool/fun and I like it because it is cool/ fun not because it is good

final spruce
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Well Admech is part of the Imperium but they manage to be even worse than the average Imperium

barren tapir
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Knights are neutral, but more leaning in dumb territory for me

gaunt vector
gaunt vector
atomic pelican
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Most civilian humans heck

lofty storm
gaunt vector
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If it helps, my second favourite faction is the Craftworld Eldar

barren tapir
gaunt vector
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guard are cooler than gsc no offense

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imo

lofty storm
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@atomic pelican You have been slandered.

atomic pelican
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By who

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One must consider the person giving the opinion

final spruce
atomic pelican
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A marine fan

lofty storm
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LMFAO

atomic pelican
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Discarded

gaunt vector
scenic bolt
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gsc was cooler when they had limos and not dirt bikes

final spruce
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Dirt bikes cool tho

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Like they are the only 40k bikes with suspensions

atomic pelican
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Only realistic bikes

final spruce
atomic pelican
scenic bolt
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gonna pull out my SM go kart with wheels that cant turn

barren tapir
gaunt vector
final spruce
barren tapir
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GSC dirt bikes would be amazing for kitbash some serious skitarii rider

lofty storm
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@scenic bolt It doesn't turn. The anti-grav lifts kick in and the entire cart is set in the direction it needs to go.

gaunt vector
barren tapir
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And to say they don't really care is wrong imo, they still care for some stuff with their manpower

final spruce
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Because its literally written in the Skitarii codex that they have a broader pick range for whom will be servitored

lofty storm
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Uh-oh.

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It's starting.

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I'm out.

barren tapir
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The PoV of Ad. Mech. being dumb is one that i simply cannot share, or that they are comically evil in their management of worlds

barren tapir
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We need a BT referee!

lofty storm
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LMFAO

gaunt vector
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XD

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Can a BA fan help?

lofty storm
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Y'all need a chaplain? Smug

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We're both good for those.

barren tapir
gaunt vector
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wheres that fulgrim pfp gone?

barren tapir
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BA aren't blood angels?

gaunt vector
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we angy

barren tapir
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So, yes, my point stand

gaunt vector
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not horny

barren tapir
barren tapir
final spruce
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Nah 9

gaunt vector
final spruce
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lemme get you the excerpt if you wanna do your Medic

barren tapir
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I trust you

gaunt vector
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I know that it is legally required to be at least a little bit gay for Sanguinius but the prevailing tone of the BA is angy and drincc

barren tapir
lofty storm
atomic pelican
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The bravest skitarii are the great warriors of the bladed cog

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Who threw the fab general off their world

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And onto the top of their banner

gaunt vector
barren tapir
atomic pelican
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Skitarii

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The patriarch thralled them and their skitarii prime

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Who now serves as the cult nexos

barren tapir
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Damn, i should have added a /j

storm jungle
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Yeah i think that was as usual 40k suffering from "we cant make any GSC that isnt default cult models because tabletop"

atomic pelican
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Yeee

gaunt vector
atomic pelican
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Bladed Cog's brood brothers canonwise are skitarii

gaunt vector
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tyranid version of godzilla and mechagodzilla

final spruce
storm jungle
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but as said before gotta be cult minis otherwise it'd be confusing lmao

barren tapir
storm jungle
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Reading more of their lore now

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Unlike the bionic-obsessive Mechanicum, the Bladed Cog welcomes organic and cybernetic alike and this has seen their ranks swell from the underclasses of Forge Worlds

atomic pelican
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Yeeee

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Its Cool

storm jungle
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leave it to the GSC to be more questionably noblebright than the imperium lmao

atomic pelican
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They also did legit put their fab general's head on their flagpole

storm jungle
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Yeee its in their banner artwork i think?

final spruce
atomic pelican
storm jungle
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lmao

final spruce
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Wait nevermind I forgot Iron Warriors were a thing

storm jungle
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oof

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too soon 😔

barren tapir
gaunt vector
scenic bolt
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pouring one out for the interex, what could've been

gaunt vector
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indeed

barren tapir
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Another for adrantis five pls

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And for the diasporex

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And for the auretian technocracy

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I mean, if we go with drinks for every human civ destroyed by the imperium we will get drunk

scenic bolt
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pmuch

gaunt vector
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do u reckon there is a shrine world where all they do all day is pour one out for each individual martyr every single day?

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they have rising sea levels of nothing but alchohol

scenic bolt
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thatd be neat

gaunt vector
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and no one can agree on how to prounounce its name because by the time u have been on the world long enough to ask u have inhaled too much alchohol to speak clearly

eternal ledge
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I could see the ministorum finding a way to commission the mechancus to make a alcohol rain weather control system

cursive hull
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There being Forge world GSC makes me very happy.

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Probably how I'd do GSC if I were to have a GSC army

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It also feels like it'd be infuriating to be a Fabricator General and learn your workforce is infested and subverted.

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...Matter of fact, presuming a Skitarii still has flesh on them, could they be subverted by a Genestealer?

Like, on the one hand, some Skitarii are basically micro-managed or directed/made unnaturally loyal to their Tech Priest masters using implants.

But on the other hand, Genestealer subversion is really powerful, to the point where it can basically fuck up anyone.

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...Although, one imagines something like a Skitarii Vanguard would be a really poor choice to subvert.

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Oh, this guy with acute radiation poisoning who's probably sterile has been subverted! Oh noooooo.

atomic pelican
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There are 2 means of 'infection'

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Psychic thralling and biological infection

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Though, most skitarii/such are still biological enough to be infected directly

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In the case of Bladed Cog, the Patriarch thralled a large swath of them

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Funnily enough, in Spiral Dawn, a SoB is subverted from like, miles away by a patriarch

cerulean wagon
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a strong broodmind or just a weird writting bit?

atomic pelican
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Uhh hard to say, it was a brand new cult

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So probably not a incredibly strong broodmind

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Infact, this was within only like a week of the purestrains landing iirc

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The patriarch had like, just ascended

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He reached into her mind and drew her to the mountain, where she was biologically infected

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Planted seeds of doubt into her mind, etc etc

cerulean wagon
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idk the strength of a fresh mind, but that seems weird to me

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may just be me tho

atomic pelican
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If it helps, I believe she was also a younger sister

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Patriarchs are incredible psykers

cerulean wagon
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its less to do with the persons mental strength and more the distance lmao

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always assumed fresh cults were relativley small on influence and needed to expand the web

atomic pelican
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Yeah that's generally the case, Patriarchs psychic power generally grows with the broodmind

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same for magi

barren tapir
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GSC have a version of waaagh energy unique to them, got it

signal hill
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what did again happen when a tyranid swarm lands on a broodminded planet? do they just gobble them up or is there more to it?

odd sparrow
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what like, a GSC dominated planet?

atomic pelican
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typically yes but there are some exceptions

odd sparrow
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i was already gonna ping u for bug matters fdhks

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neuron activation

atomic pelican
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yes

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Bug activation

rose thorn
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@atomic pelican Hey what’s the pistols that the cowboy genestealer guy use called?

atomic pelican
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Liberator autostubs

rose thorn
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Thanks

plush mason
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cowboy genestealer?

final spruce
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Kelermorph

barren tapir
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Maybe it would be more appropriate to say groxboy though... Doubt there are still cow in the grim darkness of the far future

plush mason
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wtf is a grox?

barren tapir
smoky mauve
plush mason
barren tapir
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More a lizard but fair

plush mason
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lizard cow

signal hill
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wait...wasnt there a caveman who accidently poisoned his tribe with grox shit and as a 'reward' was turned into a nurgling?

rose thorn
digital sapphire
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I know enough about the Doom of Malan’tai and Swarmy, but y’all got any juicy details about other Tyranid characters? Like that parasite dude, or One Eye?

atomic pelican
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Most of them don't really have much 'character' to them, as much as being unique biomorphs who's format was then adopted b y other hivefleets

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Ex, Old One Eye being a especially vicious carnifex

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However, there is lore that suggests the original One Eye is still alive

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Frozen beneath ice, being worshipped by a Cult dedicated to him

rose thorn
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Are there any special effects of a genestealer infecting grox or other cattle?

atomic pelican
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no, infact I can't even recall a instance where a purestrain has infected a random animal like that

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They probably could, but there's no point

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Genestealers are vanguard organisms, intended to infect the sentient population of the planet

rose thorn
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Ahh alright, I was thinking of making innerwyrm style genestealer cultists ride grox for bikers, and I was wondering if they should be infected too or not

atomic pelican
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Don't need to be infected to ride

rose thorn
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Makes sense

placid timber
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GW saw Wisconsin's state cryptid and stole it

storm jungle
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DUDE ITS LITERALLY THE SAME PICTURE

upbeat arch
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Based bundle

placid timber
rose thorn
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I wonder what Slaanesh familiars look like

marsh grail
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Yes

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Do you mean like a slaneeshling?

rose thorn
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I think?

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like this guy for example

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weird little pyker dudes

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Oh ut apparently looks like a minitor

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and a tits our demon lady with no arms

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tbh i kinda

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love them

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they are so stupid looking

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and off tone

rose thorn
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Thinking about how the tau killed a noise marine warband and thought it was Slaanesh himself

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Like silly little blue alien men :) if you had a personality and real emotions you would have been killed in an instant

cunning wigeon
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Smh gatekeeping emotions

storm jungle
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Tau have personalities and emotions

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you wont explode into a chaos spawn just because of having them

odd sparrow
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^

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The only limitation for tau is that they're basically unable to feel warp stuff. So like, they can still perceive daemons and all, but they're blind to the whole this planet definitely had daemons on it at some point and i dont wanna be here thing warp sensitive species will get

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it's kinda inconsistent cus tau can still apparently get fucked up by blanks but

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But beyond that they do have a full range of emotions, they're not stunted. They're just not v individualist

serene jungle
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So like Imperialist Asia

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Everything for their respective Emperors

dim totem
upbeat arch
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Tom Holland wants to play 40k with Henry Cavill

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I cant get the idea out of my head that he would play that one interrogator from Eisenhorn that gets daemonhosted

upbeat arch
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Let us begin

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crisp heath
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Thats a good one

cunning wigeon
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why do the GSC even exist? just to soften up planets for a hive fleet invasion?

final spruce
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Yep

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When a Hive will attack a planet it will send a psychic feedback to the GSC there to start riots

peak hamlet
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@atomic pelican gsc talk

final spruce
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A gsc cult that has attained max presence will also attract hive fleets

cunning wigeon
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I suppose them assimilating into garrisons and things would also leave a planet defenceless right?

final spruce
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that's the brood brothers job yeah they will infiltrate the ranks of local guardsmen and pdf , taking control of their weapons during the invasion or the rebellion yes

atomic pelican
#

Yes zherlum is right

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Infact, when a hivefleet nears, special generationa will begin to be born

#

Hybrid metamorphs

peak hamlet
#

Luv em

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Gonna get a squad of them at some point

cunning wigeon
#

the choncy bois

final spruce
atomic pelican
#

Yus

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Theyre kind of a weird unit tt wise so theyre easy to forget

cunning wigeon
#

as the generations go on do the cultists get more tyranid like or more human? if neither why does it bother mentioning their generations?

final spruce
#

They become more humans

atomic pelican
#

More human like then it cycles back

final spruce
#

In short it goes from 1 to 5th gen, 4 th is the most human one, 5 is pure genestealers so another patriarch can be born and spread the cult

#

Unless Proud thinks i'm wrong

atomic pelican
#

No thats right, but gen 5 and 1 are the same

#

I usually just say 1-4->1 again

#

Since step 1 is purestrains

cunning wigeon
#

What are the familiars some of the GSC are gifted?

atomic pelican
#

Psychic manifestations of the patriarch essentially

#

Like mini-mes but used for psychic folley

storm jungle
#

archived footage

cunning wigeon
#

except hopefully having telepathic communication would lead to better dancing

crisp heath
#

I actually really like GSC

#

They are currently the only traitor humans that have a line of models that have rules

#

Chaos humans (lost and the damned or somesuch) sort of exist but not really

#

I would like non chaos aligned, non xenos aligned and non Imperium aligned humans but alas I doubt we ever see those

crisp heath
cunning wigeon
#

Like independent world's?

crisp heath
#

Or rebels that don't fall to chaos

rose thorn
#

Most rebelling worlds usually mysteriously become radiation planets over night when the imperium hears about it

crisp heath
#

Doesn't mean there aren't any

rose thorn
#

Fuckin crabs that only make plasma reactors

Rip

odd sparrow
#

Tbh those species might be willing, we know so little abt them cus GW isn't interested in fleshing the auxiliaries out

rose thorn
#

I’d fucking kill for more tabletop minor Xenos tbh

frosty cobalt
#

As a tau main you and me both

#

“Oh we have an aux species that could toss a baneblade with their mind??? And ur not giving me more lore????

rose thorn
#

I honestly don’t like tau, I don’t like the gundom crap but I fucking adore the Kroot and those bug guys

gaunt vector
#

there's a lot that GW do with their models that doesn't make sense

rose thorn
#

Also there should definitely chaos Xenos for table top

odd sparrow
#

Nicassar when

#

Local floating bear says you're inside out now

#

Telekinesis hours

rose thorn
#

Lmao

#

I fr love how alphariusomegon spent the entire Horus heresy fucking circlejerking their war tactics and fucking with everyone while contributing absolutely nothing

odd palm
#

To be fair that was half the traitors

#

But not my boi Pert

#

Man carried

errant mauve
#

Lux online

#

👁️

odd sparrow
#

is that the other pert stan

#

are yall multiplying

errant mauve
#

I see the Aus has awoken from his Halo induced slumber

odd palm
#

Mayhaps, we just have good taste

errant mauve
#

No Lux is a disgusting C*rax lover 🤢

odd palm
errant mauve
#

uh oh

cerulean wagon
#

no they are just horny for russ

odd palm
#

🤢

rose thorn
#

Magnus is hotter

errant mauve
#

Wait sorry, you like Dark Angels even more. My bad trole

odd palm
errant mauve
odd palm
#

I have good taste mayo, honest bruv. I like the Scars and Fists

cerulean wagon
#

Thats good taste?

odd palm
#

Ye

errant mauve
#

We have started the taste wars

cerulean wagon
errant mauve
#

Excellent taste in legions

odd palm
cerulean wagon
#

ew god no

#

what do you think i am, some kind of savage

odd palm
#

Mayhaps

errant mauve
#

I like that we all agree on the nastiness of Blood Angels

odd palm
#

Indeed

#

Very cringe

cerulean wagon
#

incredibly

atomic pelican
#

Bit cringe innit

odd palm
#

Honest bruv

rose thorn
#

Tbh fulgrim is a bit of a femboy

errant mauve
odd palm
#

I’ve been drinking copious amounts of tea. Might be the reason

errant mauve
#

Read anything new

#

or are we still in the "no fun lore" trench

odd palm
odd sparrow
cerulean wagon
#

I'm a IG/Eldar boi

odd sparrow
#

primarchs wise i like fulgrim and sangy cus they're hot and no other reason

odd palm
errant mauve
#

Mainly homebrew Pepega

odd palm
#

XD

errant mauve
#

But I recently got my hands on a uhhh

#

what do you call it

#

rules supplement

odd palm
#

Supplement?

errant mauve
#

for Clan Raukan

odd palm
#

For?

#

Oh

errant mauve
#

You know what

odd palm
#

Decent?

errant mauve
#

maybe the IH are not super crintge

#

just normal cringe

odd palm
#

Classic

#

I just want an Autek Mor reborn and make his signature and frequent move, dropping moons on enemies

rose thorn
errant mauve
#

What I would do for a War of the False Primarch Imperial Armour

odd palm
#

Mmm

#

If only

odd palm
cerulean wagon
#

Oh god no

odd palm
#

Very good

errant mauve
#

Skelly is based

odd palm
#

Indeed

cerulean wagon
#

most of the krieg stans have been beaned

odd palm
#

Perfection

#

Thoughts on Harakoni?

cerulean wagon
#

They are neat, but i'm more of a valhallan kinda guy

#

snow camo my beloved

#

whish i could pull this off tbh

odd palm
#

Based

errant mauve
cerulean wagon
#

probably

final spruce
marsh grail
odd palm
#

Oh dear

rose thorn
#

Stupid question:

In warhammer 40K are clones more nurture or nature?

#

Like I know in some media clones are literally one for one while other times clones are basically the same as a child growing up

proper helm
#

It's weird. Horus has been cloned a few times, with the intention of recreating him. The clones never really stack up to the real one, though the reasons could vary from the fact that it's a being without the supercharged energy of every chaos god to the Emperor having deleted Horus's soul.

marsh grail
#

Wait what’s that bit about supercharged chaos energy?

glad prism
signal hill
lofty storm
#

One sec.

#

Tamiya Weathering Master.

#

Just dusted the entire thing with the Snow effect

#

That stuff is 10/10 though.

final spruce
upbeat arch
dim totem
#

big read but my brain small

upbeat arch
#

^ADB posting about Drachnyen and why the Emperor fears the daemon. Pretty damn interesting. Surprising it has only 60 upvotes.

dim totem
#

ohh neat

#

gave it an updoot

upbeat arch
#

God damn this guy posted on reddit a lot

crisp heath
#

Its a good post

lofty storm
#

Best 40K author along side Dan.

#

Gets the lore really right and makes the characters a lot more than 1 dimensional tacticool himbos.

#

Depth, character development, etc.

eternal ledge
#

I love his Black Legion series

#

Space Marines know no fear but oh by do the get depressed

lofty storm
eternal ledge
#

Where's book 3 damn it

storm jungle
#

I saw a really good rant about Dan today actually

#

Which brings us back to I think the two greatest problems of The Horus Heresy series. Dan Abnett and the Perpetuals. I know Abnett is beloved on this subreddit, but it drives me insane on his insistence to force his vision on what is essentially a community project. Nearly every other major 40K author is tonally coherent with each other - I can read Wraight and then ADB and I feel like I'm reading the same universe.

Then Abnett shows up and I'm in a completely different genre - the Eternals Perpetuals feel like something he's pulled from his work in Marvel and shoved into 40k (Erda is Reed Richards to the Emperor's Doctor Doom, change my mind).

There's a reason they're routinely cited as sucking and I swear Abnett keeps shoehorning in Perpetuals in order to try and redeem them for the fanbase. It doesn't help that I feel like Abnett's work in the Horus Heresy is more about completing his Inquisitor trilogy then it is about the Heresy.

"Eununcia in Eisenhorn? Did you know humans figured it out at the Tower of Babel, the Emperor wanted to steal it, but then MY Perpetual ended up destroying it?" You learn that from reading the Horus Heresy books! "Did you know my perpetual was also the first warmaster?" "You like Valdor - just wait till you see him in 10,000 years later!" .*

They're plot fillers who I think Abnett wants to use to make grand statements about the human spirit, but they almost solely exist to sprout exposition about why the Emperor and 40K sucks. Which, to be fair, more fans should recognize, but the way Abnett does it isn't interesting or fun.

#

Its kinda long but it sums up why I don't really like the guy much

tender igloo
#

he is also really good at writing bog-standard humans in 40k and so i like his work for that reason

final spruce
storm jungle
#

LMAO

#

sad but true

plucky moth
final spruce
#

But I agree that is a clear witness of Dan and mostly why I can't read too much of his work in a row

#

I bet a krieg dlc that one of the PCs / NPCs of DT will be a perpetual

errant mauve
storm jungle
#

GOD

#

i hate that he'd actually do something like that

errant mauve
#

Teh great old ones were pepetuals

#

they spread the myth of the war in heaven to keep the eldar complacnet

storm jungle
#

no no Mayo its THE Old Ones™️

#

watch that branding

errant mauve
dull osprey
#

Honestly I agree with this aspect, Perpetuals were one of the dumbest things to come out of recent 40k lore

#

I love Dan for most of all his other stuff, but Perpetuals are just dumb

storm jungle
#

I never made the Eternals/Marvel connection ngl

#

but it sounds FAR too accurate

dull osprey
#

That is an interesting point that I didn't really consider before

#

Which I liked most of his stuff at Marvel, he was responsible for Guardians getting popular, his run was great

crisp heath
#

I did enjoy the perpetuals when there were like 3 total and never really had lore besides them existing

storm jungle
#

same tbh

dull osprey
#

Like it was a oh cool, interesting, don't need to know more about them

#

Like the Minor Ordos of the Inquisition

#

There are blurbs about them

#

But don't need to go into them

#

My imagination will do a better job at filling in the gaps

barren tapir
#

Perpetuals are an amazing concept but awfully developed and pushed hard into many places that didn't required them...

rose thorn
#

Having a genestealer cultist on your roguetrader crew probably sucks

cerulean wagon
#

yes

rose thorn
#

‘No, we will not stop by the hive city that will only communicate with you.’

#

‘No, we will not stop and steal mining equipment’

cerulean wagon
#

they dont need to steal mining equipment tho

#

anything will do

rose thorn
#

True

barren tapir
#

Why steal it when you can simply get it assigned to you legally?

dull osprey
#

I doubt a Rogue Trader would keep a GSC on his crew tho, what benefit would he get from it? I think the cons would way outweigh pros

atomic pelican
#

More the idea of that they simply wouldnt know

upbeat arch
#

Can a GSC ever separate from the cult and live his life in peace. J chillin? Has that ever happened before?

cerulean wagon
#

the only people stupid enough to keep nids about are the admech

atomic pelican
#

They COULD but they wouldnt

cerulean wagon
#

and it never goes well

atomic pelican
#

Cultists have a inbuilt fervor to work to the cult's objectives

upbeat arch
#

Tru

#

But WHAT IF

#

you know how there’s those stories of gsc fighting back against the nids?

atomic pelican
#

There are a few examples, but in all, they are still under the directive of their cult and patriarch

#

Usually fighting a hivefleet which did not sire them

upbeat arch
#

So what happens if they fight back and win?

#

Are they just like

atomic pelican
#

They continue in

#

On*

cerulean wagon
#

they wait for the right fleet to turn up

atomic pelican
#

Yes

upbeat arch
#

“Oh fuck lets call another”

atomic pelican
#

Wait and spread

#

Just like before

#

P much resumes the status quo of the cult

cerulean wagon
#

they have limited free will, but the patriarch basically has them all on a psychic leesh

atomic pelican
#

Yeee

upbeat arch
#

I imagine a gsc guy staring through binoculars.

cerulean wagon
#

if you consider leaving he'll nudge the thought aside and towards something more beneficial

atomic pelican
#

They keep their personality and such, but wont stray far from the cult

#

Geus

#

Yeus*

upbeat arch
#

“IS THAT THEM? IS THAT THE GODS”

#

“Nah nah, these are yellow”

#

“FUCK NOT AGAIN”

atomic pelican
#

Not even neccesarily the patriarch himself, just the like, inbuilt loyalty to other cultists

#

Connection to the broodmind

#

Ontop of that, a Cultist has lived and been taught the dogma and socialized that way their entire life if they are a born hybrid

#

Even without the Broodmind, It'd be unlikely theyd ever leave

barren tapir
#

I remember an excerpt of a cultist "opening their eyes" to what they were and were doing and seemed having quite free will, but that happened after their patriarch was killed iirc

atomic pelican
#

A patriarch dying alone won't do that. You may be thinking of a few examples of hivefleets consumptions which dissipate the broodmind

#

Tho, even in those cases, it doesnt make much sense to me

#

A patriarch dying wont end a cult, a new one will just rise

barren tapir
#

No no, i remember the cultis awaken from an attack, and she see all other cultists in a different way, she doesn't feel anymore their connection, she see them as "monster" and she was scared that all them would recognize her and remember what her ordered them to do and would try to kill her

cerulean wagon
#

that sounds like weird writting tbh

atomic pelican
#

Yeah

#

There are some canon things that conflict and things which I disagree with for that reason. Ex) GSC Khaine

cerulean wagon
atomic pelican
#

Another thing I genuinely preferred was old throw yourselves into da goo cultists

#

Why would a hivefleet make a fight for itself?

#

Legit just for muh grimderps

cerulean wagon
#

ye like

#

i can understand cults fightin other fleets

#

but other then that feels like they should basically just get brain fried by the connection to the actual hive once it arrives

barren tapir
#

Found it, it was the novel fist of the imperium

atomic pelican
#

"Well, we have this huge amount of biomass willing to die in a religious fervor. Lets cut that so theyll fight us because xd!"

barren tapir
#

Read and cry... Or laugh i dunno

atomic pelican
#

Yeah that aint right

#

Cult of the Spiral has a patriarch die and no cultist loses their faith

barren tapir
#

¯_(ツ)_/¯

atomic pelican
#

Oh its a marine book

#

That explains alot

barren tapir
#

We also had a GSC being left alive which is stated to be weird

cerulean wagon
#

GSC being left alive by a fleet is fine cause thats an infection vector they can use

barren tapir
#

From what i got it is a GSC book too, at least that is what a guy said

atomic pelican
#

SHES A MAGUS TOO

#

Yeah thats comically stupid

barren tapir
atomic pelican
#

Also its a marine book

#

Accordjng to google

#

No thats wrong saar

#

Hivefleets let cultists flee often

#

To spread

barren tapir
atomic pelican
#

Marine books must be discarded

#

As they are garbage

#

Esp when they conflict with a better book (Spiral)

barren tapir
#

Seem quite a biased PoV

cerulean wagon
#

because it can destabalize shit ahead of the main hive fleet, who cant keep up because they cant use the warp

atomic pelican
#

Yee, theres examples of ships fleeing planets stuffed with cultists

#

Before consumption

cerulean wagon
#

and ye that book is so bad

barren tapir
cerulean wagon
#

they are GSC by birth

barren tapir
#

I was referring to this cult

cerulean wagon
#

thats a single cult, we are talking cults as a whole

barren tapir
#

On the Agri-World of Taurensi IX, a force of Voidbrood surprisingly survived the Tyranid invasion they helped engineer.

#

How should this be interpreted then?

#

Why they were spared is unknown,

#

Also this

atomic pelican
#

Yes

#

Sometimes hivefleets spare the cults

cerulean wagon
#

the nids let them live to spread the GSC infection

atomic pelican
#

That's what we were saying(?)

cerulean wagon
#

because, why wouldnt they?

#

its an effective tactic

atomic pelican
#

The relationship between Hivefleet and Cult varies alot, that's why you get so many examples. It's rare that there's a single right answer for every cult

cerulean wagon
#

arrive in new system "we are seeking refuge, our previous planet was eaten"

barren tapir
#

Because that state that sparing them is not the norm, and it is an exception to the rule

atomic pelican
#

It isn't that big of a exception

#

Tiamet has a unique relationship with acult, where it has a ferryman bring new cultist sinto the system

#

There's another cult which has no based planet, but orbits the hivefleet in orbital stations

#

Following it and helping it

barren tapir
#

I still haven't found an example of a cult being left alive from nids other than the voidbrood tbh

atomic pelican
#

Tiamet

cerulean wagon
#

don't look at named broods, look at general lore

barren tapir
#

Tiamat hivefleet?

#

The gardener nids?

atomic pelican
#

Yes

cerulean wagon
#

yes

atomic pelican
#

There's a Ferrymen cult leader

#

Who brings new people into the system

#

It's unknown

#

What they are doing

barren tapir
atomic pelican
#

but the ferryemn comes and leaves

#

It's actually rlly neat

#

I do hope they do something with Tiamet's plot, they're my favorite hivefleet

storm jungle
#

Tiamet's schtick has been mentioned at the end of the Octarius book iirc

cerulean wagon
#

new bio titan variants

storm jungle
#

so at least its not a forgotten plot thread as of yet

cerulean wagon
#

We haven't had variant bio titan lore since jericho reach for deathwatch

storm jungle
#

ooft rip

atomic pelican
#

Iirc they're building some massive beacon to attract the larger bulk of the Tyranids

#

In their system

#

I'm mostly curious as to what purpose the cult itself serves, because It's far too inefficient to just be for biomass

cerulean wagon
#

cant wait for the SM to kill it

atomic pelican
#

LMAO

storm jungle
#

god

#

i was resisting

#

LOL

cerulean wagon
atomic pelican
#

That's what I was thinking

#

Or like, using the mass of a cult's worship to feed psychic energies into the thing

#

My guess is: The beacon itself amplifies the fuck out of a patriarch's signal

barren tapir
#

The Hive Fleet has also begun capturing ships that near the Tiamet System and have also created Genestealer Cults that leave their worlds to travel to the System.
I guess this wwas what you were referring to when you said that tiamet spared the GSC cults... It doesn't seem entirelly correct

atomic pelican
#

No, not that specifically, but that too

cerulean wagon
atomic pelican
#

Finally

storm jungle
#

post that megatron gif DO IT

cerulean wagon
#

which one

storm jungle
#

the one where he lifts lincoln and sits on his chair

atomic pelican
#

This is the part about the Ferryman

#

The Conduit

cerulean wagon
atomic pelican
#

The Nids let them leave, to become missionaries

#

It's really cool

#

I really do hope they don't lulmarine Tiamet, because IMO, It's the most interesting hivefleet

cerulean wagon
#

they will, kryptman is involved

#

and he fucking sucks

atomic pelican
barren tapir
# atomic pelican

This is the same i wrote with different words... It is stated that GSC from other worlds go to the tiamet system...

atomic pelican
#

AND come back out

#

As in, people are coming in, then leaving

#

Which means that Tiamet isn't just eating them

cerulean wagon
#

it literaly says they leave at the end blank

barren tapir
#

Yeah, but tiamet isn't even conquering their world, and we were talking about what happen to GSC when an hivefleet conquer their worlds, or did you forgot?

#

And again, tiamet is an exception, a great one tbf, from all other hivefleet, so it just confirm what i said, that GSC being left free to go away isn't exactly the norm

atomic pelican
#

The point is that Tiamet is sparing them, which shows that Hivefleets can see further into planning than just "lmao eat"

#

Letting them spread to help the fleet

glad prism
#

^

atomic pelican
#

Which happens too, on a smaller scale

#

At planetary consumptions

glad prism
#

Its like how a tiger can toy with or plan hunts

barren tapir
#

I'm not stating that hive fleets cannot let them go away, i'm stating that it is not the norm

#

And as now, we have the example of the voidbrood, which has stated that it is surprising that they were left alive, and tiamet, which is such a unique hivefleet that don't even consume the worlds they settled that using it to prove that hivefleet leave GSC alive as norm is... Well, not really solid based

storm jungle
#

Eh

#

the entire base of 40k lore is just write a good enough excuse and roll with it

#

so its not that important imo

cerulean wagon
#

We never said its the norm, its nids so theres no real established norm

#

its just something they do, it differs fleet to fleet and cult to cult

barren tapir
atomic pelican
#

Yee

#

No norm with nids, they evolve based on their needs

#

Same as Cults

barren tapir
#

You were not stating a named hivefleet, you were saying nids, like it is a shared behaviour

cerulean wagon
#

yes, because multiple fleets have done it, in various anecdotal lore bits that have been mentioned in here over the last year that i dont remember off the top of my head

barren tapir
#

Aaah Ah! If they get on top again feel free to ping me, i wouldn't shy from updating my knowledge on nids and GSC since they seems to be both becoming big players in the galaxy

glad prism
#

The named cults we know about are just the ones that haven't been consumed. Yet.

barren tapir
#

Pretty sure we can have a named cult that got munched in the end...

glad prism
#

With how GW works, probably not

barren tapir
#

BTW, i remember one asking if GSC can infect animals like grox, it seems they can, and they will if they can use them to spread infection

atomic pelican
#

None of the major cults, no

#

They can, but not in the way you're thinking of

#

There's a cult which infects the meat of grox, but not the animal itself

#

then packs and ships it to be eaten by other worlds

#

They also probably can regularly infect grox, they can infect nearly anything alive

#

But there's no real reason to

glad prism
#

The incoming nids will see to that by just eating them all anyway

barren tapir
#

The grox thing is gross, they ship grox with inside genestealers...

atomic pelican
#

Parasites, not full grown genestealers

#

Atleast in that specific example

#

No reason they couldn't do that tho

barren tapir
#

The Cult is known to have spread its influence to other worlds by exporting Grox from the Agri-World of Peregrim's World with Genestealers hidden inside.

#

Is the parasite also know as genestealer?

#

Or it has a specific name?

cerulean wagon
#

genestealer is a catch all term

#

specific name for the big uns is pure strain

barren tapir
#

I mean, i don't know how much big a grox can be, but it need to be biiig for getting a genestealer

cerulean wagon
#

genestealer can literaly be anything tho

#

from a small parasite or human through to a patriarch

atomic pelican
#

Ye

#

In the case of the Innerwyrm, they're leaving the parasite that purestrains produce to infect people in the meat

#

It's much easier to ship than a whole grown purestrain

#

But like I said, they may just as well ship purestrains too under the guise of food shipments

#

It's w/e really

#

You may actually be right about the corpse stuffing

#

Infact, you are!

barren tapir
rose thorn
#

god the dornian heresy is so cool

vast frigate
#

Great concept

#

Love the armor as well

storm jungle
#

I love it more for the case that its good to read some of the traitor primarchs actually having good lives

#

it goes to also show how lazily written the actual Horus Heresy also is lmao

#

Big E didnt help Angron because eh idk, nails were there too long

#

Meanwhile Dornian Heresy Big E is just "lol lemme remove those real quick, its not like im not a super genius science person that can pull a mcguffin out of anywhere at any time or something"

rose thorn
#

the onlyt hing i dont like is that xenos have litearlly zero presents

#

like, ultramarines are Tau

#

iron hands are necron

#

which is super fucking cool

#

and deathguard are eldar

storm jungle
#

wait WHAT

#

I DIDNT KNOW THAT LAST ONE

rose thorn
#

yeah they follow Isha and are trying to free her from nurgle

#

thats what they do 24/7

storm jungle
#

Ooooh thats really neat

rose thorn
#

ikr

storm jungle
#

looks like ill have to read their page

#

they're the only ones i skipped because i dont like DG lmao

rose thorn
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i think one of the traitor chapters are genestealer like but im not sure, probably not

rose thorn
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like 'papa nurgle' but what about 'milf slaanesh?'

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also in dornian heresy the luna wolves become the black templar

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literally zero difference

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and the alpha legion are also

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exactly the same

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but maybe they are secretly chaos

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but loyalist

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or some bullshit

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OH YEA THE THOUSAND SONS ARE SO FUCKING COOL

storm jungle
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YOOO

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T.Sons get the best fucking deal

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aside from going blind

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also another case of the HH being lazily written

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Magnus just asks for a private audience with Big E in nikea

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and boom problem solved, thats it

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no needless bullshit drama lul

rose thorn
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im not 100% sure but im pretty sure what happened was magnus was being tempted by tzeetch but big E warned him and like taught him how to limit his powers

storm jungle
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Yeee, like Magnus like the other legions was basically fated to fall to chaos with his gimmick

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with Angron its rage, with Morty its Death, etc

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so its why their falls tend to be a bit "eh"

rose thorn
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Leeman is still a huge fucking asshole in DH

storm jungle
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LMAO he is

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its like once you remove all his plot armor he becomes uh

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you know

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wild psychopath

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rightfully so

rose thorn
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exactly

storm jungle
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but also ngl

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White Scars work way too strangely well as a slaanesh legion

rose thorn
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emperor's children like, litearlly jsut didnt find the sword

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YEAh

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i mean the theory in HH is that Fulgrim and Khan were switched by the laughing good

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so it makes complete sense

storm jungle
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Oh no thats canon

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so i think its why it makes even more sense

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especially the centaur stuff

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which again strangely fits REALLY well with them

rose thorn
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yea while HH EC focused on being perfect, DH focus on just pre fucking joy with their love of speed

storm jungle
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Yep like in an alternate earth im pretty sure no one would bat an eye at this change

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its more smooth compared to the ones like the Fists where it gets a bit clunky

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since they were designed from the start to be loyalists so it gets difficult to explain it

rose thorn
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i dont think its too bad, Dorian loves the emperor lik ehow Horus was

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im not too sure who cused dorian to become chaos tho

storm jungle
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Yeee i meant more that I'm too used to the Fists being the boyscouts

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so its a bit hard to imagine

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probably the same reason why they didnt make the Ultras fall to chaos in this version since its even MORE hard to fantasize it lul

rose thorn
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yeah, Guill didnt like how how Big E was running the emperium so he was like 'Ill run my own Emperium, with peace and me being in charge'

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i, dont know how the big event where em became disabled

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since half of the traitors didnt join chaos

storm jungle
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Yeee

vast frigate
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Wait

rose thorn
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i can see how iron hands would help, they became AI, but why would the guy who wants the perfect society want to help the people embodying terror and murder and crap

vast frigate
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Slaaneshi centaurs.

storm jungle
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Yes

storm jungle
vast frigate
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You see my point dont you, dilara.

storm jungle
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I do

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🔩

vast frigate
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Equipped for all warfare

rose thorn
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yeah, did the iron hands just use a soul furnace or did they do brain transfer>

vast frigate
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No but seriously centaurs fit slaanesh in all aspects

storm jungle
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Oh yeah they do, i think its just the Slaangors atm that fill that aspect, even if they arent centaurs but eh close enough

storm jungle
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i need to read up on them

vast frigate
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the emperor staring at one of his entire legions becoming abhorrent ai and telling the mechanicus its fine

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rose thorn
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LMAO

storm jungle
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He's powerless against the plot

rose thorn
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i would talk about Vulcan

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but his wiki is under heavy construction

storm jungle
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Lmao yeah

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but again he also works a bit too well as a demon

rose thorn
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yeah

storm jungle
rose thorn
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100%

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i jsut wonder how he would join chaos

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oh probably

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because he would want to be worhsipped

storm jungle
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Yeah its the same problem as the other loyalists

rose thorn
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matches him

vast frigate
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Wolfdawgart

storm jungle
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aka you need a good enough excuse

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speaking of Wolf actually

vast frigate
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Easy

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Dorn was stuck up

storm jungle
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lmao

vast frigate
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Lemans a raving lunatic

storm jungle
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I was gonna say

vast frigate
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Vulkan snapped

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Several timws

storm jungle
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Leman is also strangely a perfect khorne guy

vast frigate
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Its because he has no temper

rose thorn
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I really dont like nightlords in DH