#40k-lore-chat

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odd sparrow
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CWE use fancy rocks to prevent their souls from going to slaanesh in the first place and live v monastic lives specifically to avoid making them too horny, drukhari just pay the slaanesh suffering tax™️

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Exodites smoke way too much weed to care

primal tide
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Do we have any examples of individuals in one of the eldar factions making use of another group's methods of avoiding slaanesh? Like a drukhari getting zonked because they ran out of torture subjects, or an exodite starting a rock collection cuz someone stole their weed? Or are they each pretty much locked in to their own methods at this point?

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(goofy phrasing, honest question tho)

final spruce
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Drukhs do alot of drugs so no wonder here

primal tide
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Good point haha

final spruce
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And each faction ahs their own way to cope

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Like the whole point of the path is so that eldars can focus on a single thing to keep them occupied

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Kinda how you'll focus on work or your hobby to avoid stress and anxiety

odd sparrow
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would need to poke the supreme elf couple for in depth fluff but i asssume u can write them as sorta merging with corsairs?

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they're sorta the inclusive middle ground where they all go

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Otherwise idk

final spruce
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If we reference to proud's elf schematics, the corsairs do pull from most of the eldar factions

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Maybe they just do mass weed group sessions

odd sparrow
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yee corsairs are just any elf that's decided to elope from home and go on a drug & adrenaline fuelled romp in interstellar piracy before being turned to slag within a few years

final spruce
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I know that some corsairs like the eldar prince autarch with the cursed spear and the rangers actually still kind of keep to their path even after abandoning their craftworld

primal tide
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Yeah, I'm just wondering if there is any capability for an individual eldar to make use of any method to avoid the soul eating, or if they're sorta, ancestrally locked in?

odd sparrow
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it's kinda a weird topic ngl

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is a thing with WHFB too, with elves just being ~randomly eternally cursed to get eaten by slaanesh~

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I remember the explanation for 40k was smthn to do with uh. a thing. there was an explanation

primal tide
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It's like they invent this neat cursed backstory and are very handwavey about how that actually affects them sometimes
At least that's ill-informed my perception

final spruce
atomic pelican
barren tapir
atomic pelican
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Exodites do it by having their soul bound to the worldspirit

primal tide
atomic pelican
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And engaging in wholesome Isha lifestyle

barren tapir
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In fantasy it is just that elves have stronger emotions than humans, so slaneesh like them most

final spruce
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Very similar in 40k

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Since eldars are way more sensitive to emotions and feel them with more extremes

atomic pelican
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Yee. Essentially any eldar in realspace will start to have issues without some sort of protection. Fortunately the only eldar really like that are Corsairs

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Drukhari dont stay in realspace long enough to hurt ususlly

barren tapir
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Yeah, the difference is that it wasn't the elves that birthed slaneesh in fatasy, so not really exclusive souls for them

atomic pelican
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Funnily enough the Drukhari's curse can double as a boon if they are one of the more powerful ones

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Torment can make a Drukhari effectively immortal

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Even without the Haemonculi's craft

primal tide
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That's pretty spooky

atomic pelican
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Yeah there are Archons alive who were nobility of the aeldari empire

barren tapir
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That just mean that to defeat dark eldar we need regiments made up of masochists

eternal ledge
odd sparrow
barren tapir
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They are nihilist, not masochists...

primal tide
storm jungle
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Nah they always need the torture thing

primal tide
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And the rest of the time when they're in the webway or w/e.. it's just for fun?

storm jungle
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dark eldar's entire existence is a bucket with a hole in it

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you need to constantly fill it up with water (aka torture in this case)

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its why their lifestyle in general is so tragic in a way and has a clear doom

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that and mostly also why most of them go to join the ynnari lol

primal tide
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I'm confused about that comment I replied to then

storm jungle
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Yeee like they ALWAYS need torture

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they just have fun doing it because they're assholes

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so its like a win-win lol

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but they wont exactly instantly shrivel up and die in a day if they dont

primal tide
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But onut said realspace

storm jungle
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Hm?

atomic pelican
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Yes they need to do MORE torture to sustain in realspace

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But also in the webway

primal tide
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Ohh

atomic pelican
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Realspace makes them leak torture fuel if that makes sense

primal tide
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Very daemon-y

atomic pelican
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Its why they stay in Commoragh/other webway places and only come out for short periods typically

primal tide
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I see

atomic pelican
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Its p much because realspace is more exposed to daemons than webway tunnels/Commoragh

primal tide
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Yeah

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That makes sense

cerulean wagon
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except the aparent just

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demon door

storm jungle
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Khaine's Gate™️ was an inside job

slow prawn
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Melta fuel can't melt wraithbone beams!

storm jungle
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@atomic pelican

unknown.png
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Has different cults ever actually encountered one and another in lore lol

cerulean wagon
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uh i think so

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if they are from different hives its a fight tho

storm jungle
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Damn

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no swinger party? 😫

odd sparrow
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dammit

atomic pelican
odd sparrow
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no cult solidarity

storm jungle
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GOD DAMN IT

atomic pelican
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If they were sired from different hives

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They would also likely fight over dogma and such

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Since each cult tends to build their own

storm jungle
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Oh my god

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its literally

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that monkey fight meme

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the monkeys are the cults and the adults are the hive fleets

odd sparrow
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yep

atomic pelican
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Literally

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Theyll also fight hivefleets that didnt sire them

storm jungle
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Oh shit

odd sparrow
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bug on bug violence

primal tide
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Only one hive is allowed to turn us into nutrient soup!

smoky mauve
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The look the cultist gives you from across the heretical gathering when they say they love your energy and if you wanna meet up with them and their coven for drinks after the ritual sacrifice

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final spruce
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I mean, unless it was retconed, usually GSC wants a lot of children

storm jungle
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sorry babe

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the mining gear stays ON during sex

final spruce
rose thorn
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I was thinking to make a space marines killteam that are shorter and love underground warfare, that were made to fight off underground tyranids

Then I realized I’m just making 40K deep rock galatica

peak hamlet
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Squat killteam 😳

rose thorn
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Squat marines

peak hamlet
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Based

marsh grail
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Could a chapter recruit from Krieg?

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Don’t tell them about the rubicon primaris.

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You mean to tell me I can become a stronger tool for the emperor or die trying? Where do I sign up?

frosty cobalt
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Naw krieg is exempt from all sorts of tithes except military regiments

marsh grail
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Darn

errant mauve
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You'd need to get all the High Lords to agree to lift the exemptions on Krieg to do so

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(assuming you can get their heads out their asses first)

barren tapir
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It is less that and more than Krieg was thought lost until they poped up with a lot of regiments

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So the imperium was "eehhh, ok"

marsh grail
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It’s probably not worth it anyways. Sure they might make good marines but they are expensive and I know the memes exaggerate but a krieg still has less self preservation than a marine should have. You know in war movies when they say no hero’s because they are all dead? All kriegers want to be the hero. Besides they work just fine as cheap expendable troops.

proper helm
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also half of your aspirants dying of radiation caused cancer isn't helpful for recruitment

fervent prawn
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i have a theory

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that watchers in the dark are more than we think

vast frigate
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You mean those small dudes on caliban?

storm jungle
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the jawas yeah

fervent prawn
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ye

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well whats left of caliban

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now its quote on quote the ROCK

storm jungle
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I mean

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the rock

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nothing else lmao

fervent prawn
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ye

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lol

barren tapir
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I mean, it is a rock after all

fervent prawn
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nuked by the fallen

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ye

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just a fortress on a bit of caliban

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but the watchers were never fully explained

barren tapir
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It is part of their char

fervent prawn
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you dont know what they are up to

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ye i quess

barren tapir
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You know a bit, they fight chaos

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They kinda share some similarities with blanks

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Since they can pass unnoticed to normal creatures, and seems to be invisible to chaos creatures

fervent prawn
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and if you look at their feet, power armor

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ye

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midget power armor

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you think they are psychic?

barren tapir
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I think they are soulless

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Although they seems to have some sorta of psychic power iirc

fervent prawn
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ye

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theyre cool

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tho

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i play dark angels so i find them interesting

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i like how they're Primarch is f*cking sleeping

barren tapir
fervent prawn
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watchers be like" im betting another million years"

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ye

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you think eldar can get back to they're demi god/ stronger forms?

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or the orks return to kroaks

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kroorks

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idfk

barren tapir
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By the last lore on orks they are already returning to krorks imo, since nobz in the octarius sector are already beast size... And the beasts were noted to be extremely intelligent, to the point of speaking better high gothic that most of the imperial

fervent prawn
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ye i guess

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blood axes are first im quessing

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guessing

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there most intellegent

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the'yre

barren tapir
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If eldar get back to their former self then they will need to be balance somehow, and that would require them to be so few that are manageable or that mankind too recover its lost power

fervent prawn
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i mean... ye

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what was the battle called the necrons vs eldar before humanity

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even started

barren tapir
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Remember lore, like TT, follow an horizontal balance, all must be viable and not too powerful to tip off the balance of power

barren tapir
fervent prawn
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thats the one

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what were the necron gods?

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the

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...

barren tapir
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C'tan

fervent prawn
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yep

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are they wipped out?

barren tapir
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Them being gods though has been slightly retconnected

fervent prawn
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o

barren tapir
fervent prawn
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mhm

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i love 40k lore

barren tapir
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And you are new to it

fervent prawn
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yep pretty

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ive been playing for 7 years

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but wasnt into lore until now

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wait... do you like xcom

barren tapir
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Yes

fervent prawn
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same here

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ive completed everything in every game

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yes that includes the ufo games

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but i uninstalled them

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ages ago now

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tell me everything you know on dark angels

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plz

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plz

barren tapir
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Not much tbh...

fervent prawn
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is fine

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sounds like alot

barren tapir
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They are obsessed with the fallen, like plasma weapons and probably have some unique pattern they keep for themself, they were also among the few to have still grav bikes in the 41 millennium, and again hinted to have schematics for them that they don't share

fervent prawn
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yep nice

barren tapir
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They are also obsessed with their honour

fervent prawn
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ye

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and they are assholes thats why i play them

barren tapir
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They are at odds with quite some other SM chapters

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And with the inquisition

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And with the mechanicus

fervent prawn
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they're so obsessed with fallen, they've destroyed planets to get to them

barren tapir
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Campaigns have been lost because they left their positions to go after possible fallen

fervent prawn
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ye

barren tapir
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They have killed imperial agents that were investigating them for such behaviours

fervent prawn
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buuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuut

barren tapir
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They are kinda paranoic about that topic

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To the point of not sharing info to the new primaris SM they received

fervent prawn
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they have the coolest pre horus heresy backstory in my opinion

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ye wierd

barren tapir
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I think they also stalked the custodes ship that departed terra to apprehend Cypher too

fervent prawn
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ye ik

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lunar also escaped

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in new law

barren tapir
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Now, if you have an half functioning brain you don't try to do such things to custodes

fervent prawn
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ye they will end you

barren tapir
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Ah, yeah, luther escaped too

fervent prawn
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custodes

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my friend does them shudders

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but pre horus heresy they're planet was filled with giant hentai monsters i like to call them

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and they're power armor looked the best

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quiz... what happened to the iron warriors

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before the space marines

barren tapir
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They are still iron warrering

fervent prawn
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not iron warriors

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the things before space marines

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the wierd ones

barren tapir
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Thunder warriors?

fervent prawn
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yeyeyyeyeyeyeye

barren tapir
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Mostly died, some survived

fervent prawn
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ye

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but still are hunted

barren tapir
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Custodes don't like to leave jobs unfinished

fervent prawn
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😅

barren tapir
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Nor to leave around proofs of them kinda failing

fervent prawn
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ye

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you play any warhammer games?

glad prism
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If any were left they all got super cancer and died anyway later

fervent prawn
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🤣

barren tapir
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I played ages ago DoW soulstorm, i also palyed the campaign of DoW 2

fervent prawn
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nice

barren tapir
fervent prawn
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i got hired gun 2 hours ago

barren tapir
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In fact soulstorm was my entry in the setting

fervent prawn
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nice

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nostalgia

barren tapir
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I hope to be capable to enter TT too in the future

fervent prawn
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i got into 40k agggggggeeeeeessssss ago

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8 years ago not 7

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anyone like totalwarwarhammer?

barren tapir
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Me, but still haven't played it

fervent prawn
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i have 1&2 preordered 3

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😎

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you heard that they are gonna release a 40k version?

barren tapir
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What?! No

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Didn't heard anything about it

fervent prawn
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ye they've givven huge hints

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not announced

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huuuuuuuge hints

barren tapir
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I think i will get 3 too, but i would love to see Tilea being developed by CA

fervent prawn
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ye

barren tapir
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Eh, for 40K total war we will see... Many think that it wouldn't translate too well... But who know

fervent prawn
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ye i guess

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i am preordering darktide as soon as it comes out

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in preorder that is

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looks awesome

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how long have you been doin the hobby for?

barren tapir
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2008 was the release year of soulstorm iirc, so lets say i'm reading stuff about the setting since 2009

fervent prawn
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k

barren tapir
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I have some books too

fervent prawn
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wow

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😐

barren tapir
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to such info

fervent prawn
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k

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2009 is a long time

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😐

barren tapir
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Yes

fervent prawn
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wow

barren tapir
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But there is a lot to read too

fervent prawn
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ye

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what got you into xcom?

barren tapir
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Xcom: enemy unknow, the concept of defending terra from alien invasion was nice, i also liked the style of gameplay... Before that i finished ufo:aftershock, so i saw xcom like a continuation of it

fervent prawn
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cool

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buuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuut

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its earth not terra

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xcom not 40k

barren tapir
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No no, it is terra there too

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Just depend on the language

fervent prawn
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i like fantasy law aswell

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you?

barren tapir
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Praise Myrmidia...

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Which is a yes

fervent prawn
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k

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you play tabletop?

barren tapir
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No, not yet, maybe in the future

fervent prawn
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you should

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start small

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because expensive

barren tapir
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I think i would start, and remain, with killteam, or maybe just low points armies

fervent prawn
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ye

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always good

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but kill team requires all the rule books you have to buy

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sucky

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it is still good tho

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have you realized that bugbears and ambots are basically the same

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?

barren tapir
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No, not yet... Humber hulk i found more similar to ambulls

fervent prawn
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ambulls not bugbears sorry

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dnd logic

barren tapir
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Ambots are made by ambulls

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Take ambull brain, put into robot get ambot

fervent prawn
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wait whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!

final spruce
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He right

fervent prawn
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did not know

barren tapir
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Van Saar make them on necromunda iirc

fervent prawn
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Van Saar Ganger - Blank

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i see where you got the name

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i always thought they were made for blackstone fortresses

final spruce
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Nope Ambull have been in the lore for a while

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They are a big enemy for example in the ttrpg rogue trader from 2012

fervent prawn
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ye

final spruce
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One of the premade scenarios is your RT team cleaning up an ambull infestation in an old RT ship from a rival and earn the ship if you manage to do so

fervent prawn
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oh ye

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random question.

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are vortex genades still a thing

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?

barren tapir
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Yes

fervent prawn
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nice

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vortex nuke

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how can chaos space marines withstand the warp but not space marines?

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?????

barren tapir
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Who said that CSM can withstand warp energy without consequences?

fervent prawn
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and what about legion of the damned

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?

barren tapir
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Assumptions and hypothesis are what we have about them

fervent prawn
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k

barren tapir
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Although they are probably an imperial "demon"

fervent prawn
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i like them in eternal crusade

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or liked

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probably not "demon"

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actually

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they can appear and disappear, but not with a warp gate

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how?

barren tapir
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These days warp gates aren't really necessary, or at least aren't really limited...

fervent prawn
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how so?

barren tapir
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Warp is kinda everywhere, or at least the barrier between the materium and the immaterium is very thin pretty much everywhere

fervent prawn
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ye

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i guess

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have you heard of malal

barren tapir
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Yes, have you heard of his sons?

fervent prawn
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the 2

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or the space marines

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the 2 gods

barren tapir
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The SM

fervent prawn
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ye

barren tapir
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Although here are called sons of malice

fervent prawn
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they hate everything

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but

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have

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you

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heard

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of

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the screaming god child

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actual thing btw

barren tapir
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Screaming gold child? You mean the personification of the astronomican?

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Imperius iirc

fervent prawn
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it has been locked away by the chaos gods

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only revealed once ever.......

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only to suffer

barren tapir
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No, never heard of it

fervent prawn
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and then theres the chaos gods of order

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try to be good but still bad

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also the chaos dwarf god

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search these up

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real things

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but the screaming god child could destroy everything in existence scary

barren tapir
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Oh, are we talking about fantasy?

fervent prawn
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ye

barren tapir
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Damn, i thought we were on 40K

fervent prawn
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but the gods watch over both worlds!

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you see

barren tapir
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Not all

fervent prawn
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mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

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ok

storm jungle
fervent prawn
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nooooooooooooooo

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dont say that

storm jungle
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the entire concept of chaos is stolen from Michael Moorcock to begin with lol

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like

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down to the actual chaos symbol

fervent prawn
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i ttw3 they could bring back some chaos gods

storm jungle
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they wont

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not really a point to do so

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they dont have armies

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or special units

fervent prawn
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how about malals demons

storm jungle
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Malal isnt GW property

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so no

fervent prawn
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malice

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then

storm jungle
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and seeing the gameplay of the demon armies its already lackluster and they dont have much to begin with

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so doubt he'll appear in any form

fervent prawn
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awwwwwwwwwwwwwwww

storm jungle
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ye

fervent prawn
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but what of the chaos gods of order

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or the screaming god child

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once again an actual thing

storm jungle
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they dont exist

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like i said they're an abandoned concept

fervent prawn
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ye

storm jungle
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that was GW as usual trying to copy moorcock since hes the person that created the concept of Chaos Gods and Order Gods

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but you know

fervent prawn
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but i like the concept of the screaming god child

storm jungle
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they kinda uh

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lack the writing ability to make that legit

fervent prawn
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ye

storm jungle
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ye

fervent prawn
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he could. could destroy everything

storm jungle
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He just appears in one Malus book

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so probably not

fervent prawn
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ye

storm jungle
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ye

fervent prawn
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but he was locked away for what reason

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well never know

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kinda sad tho

storm jungle
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Because he was a one-time villain for a book

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they dont really need him again

fervent prawn
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but he is the strongest chaos god

storm jungle
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he isnt

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lol

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Hes not even a deity, just an entity

fervent prawn
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thats what i heard

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so thats busted

storm jungle
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rip

fervent prawn
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f in the chat boys

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f

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f

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f

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f

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f

storm jungle
fervent prawn
storm jungle
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that and he looks like a shitty creepypasta character

fervent prawn
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ye

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ik

storm jungle
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ye

fervent prawn
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face funny

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i think games workshop should stop stealing shitty designs and make theyre own

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they are so desperate

storm jungle
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they kinda can and dont at the same time

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GW's been moving away from stealing ideas for the most part but the genesis of Warhammer Fantasy and 40k has been pretty much just stealing from other IPs in the beginning

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now with today's legal world thats harder to do lol

fervent prawn
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ye

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lol

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you think they are gonna bring back chaos dwarfs in tww3

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?

storm jungle
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Most likely?

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They arent an obscure faction

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and got a pretty nice following

fervent prawn
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i think it would be awesome

storm jungle
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if Ogres and Cathay are a thing i dont see why not

fervent prawn
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ye

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cathay is the long lost faction

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since 1st edition

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no miniatures

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no rules

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ogres were always pretty big tho

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i think they should add a law encircled game for 40k

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like playing in the horus heresy

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you?

storm jungle
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...you mean 30k?

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not sure I follow

fervent prawn
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ye

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basically

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like you could play different factions perspectives in it

storm jungle
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GW is too lazy to do that so idk

fervent prawn
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ye but cool concept

vast frigate
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Gw has to proof run every game they make 6 times due to stakeholdeds

fervent prawn
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mmhmh

vast frigate
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Neccy mundo new edition was revamped 4 times before it was approved

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HH is forgeworld sold but geedubs make the rules because shareholders didnt like the sales

fervent prawn
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kind of following

storm jungle
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Yeah its pretty much all about the money

fervent prawn
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these days

storm jungle
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minis and cool-stuff™️ come second

storm jungle
fervent prawn
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the old ceo was at least better

storm jungle
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He wasnt

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thats why he was fired lmao

fervent prawn
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the one before that?

storm jungle
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that idk

fervent prawn
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one that actually played

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the game

storm jungle
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all CEOs are kinda the same corpos in suits to me

fervent prawn
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sometimes

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i remember hearing there was one, well at least improvement

vast frigate
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Basically what happened cross is that

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The guys who have high investments in a company can inject their info/opinion during board meetings

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Becusee they hold the shares

fervent prawn
#

ye ik

vast frigate
#

But these guys in the sad case for geebubs

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Also play the games

storm jungle
#

Holy shit really

#

that kinda makes it worse lmao

fervent prawn
#

ye

vast frigate
#

A lot of the larger shareholders do

storm jungle
#

ooftttt

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i never knew that actually

#

explains a lot...

barren tapir
#

Yeah, it explain why some games are shit

fervent prawn
vast frigate
#

So geedubs and their codex decisions are luckily partly influenced by actual players

#

BUT

barren tapir
#

They didn't enjoyed them, so they thought it would sell well

vast frigate
#

They have a bias of course

#

Its how admech got its overhaul

storm jungle
#

Im glad my guess on 40k never being balanced is true at least

fervent prawn
#

were primaris fan suggested

vast frigate
#

Vote info from that meeting was a 58% agree on overhauling non marine factions

final spruce
vast frigate
#

Primaris has been on the table for 4 years before they were announced @fervent prawn

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Geebubs plans 4 years ahead

fervent prawn
#

mmmmmmm

storm jungle
#

Yeee Primaris was the most obvious corpo-choice in warhammer's history

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since its just marines, but bigger

fervent prawn
#

ye

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i dont like them

#

kind of shit

final spruce
#

They are just a product of the Deus Cawl Machina

vast frigate
#

Not completely but the entire agenda is planned 4 years ahead of time, so when those agendas leak, we get info on releases

barren tapir
storm jungle
vast frigate
#

I mean marines are hypno trained ro be able to wield al weapons

fervent prawn
#

ye

vast frigate
#

Anyway im in the store atm so i can provide limited info

#

But the geedubs board has been influenced by shareholders since 2006

fervent prawn
#

FIRSTBORN are BETTER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

final spruce
#

Makes sense, specialized units sell more and are easier to quick fix than a unit good enough for most things

vast frigate
#

the tau are a product of shareholders btw

barren tapir
fervent prawn
#

tau are weeaboooo space communists

vast frigate
#

Basically a vote was made on how to enter the asian market

final spruce
#

Especially when GW's sales mechanics for a long time was and still is : we are releasing this op miniature that doesn't come its own standalone box that will rekt the game for 4 months, then 2 weeks after they get their standalone box and everybody has time to buy them, we nerf'em so that the people disliking the metas are pleased and we got our money

storm jungle
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they arent

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lets not do this

vast frigate
#

🧐

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Achtually

fervent prawn
#

its to much

vast frigate
#

Tau are-

fervent prawn
#

its to much

#

its to much

#

info

storm jungle
#

what info

fervent prawn
#

nooooooooooo

#

to much

vast frigate
storm jungle
#

are you having brain damage

fervent prawn
#

wdym

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the info everywhere

storm jungle
#

...you literally asked for it

fervent prawn
#

at the start

storm jungle
#

I mean its a few sentences

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its not that hard to read

vast frigate
#

Monke

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We l are

fervent prawn
#

then attracted more and more attention

storm jungle
#

but yeah Tau are fine i think

vast frigate
#

Uwu

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Tau cute

storm jungle
#

even if its for the asian market i find them cool

#

they arent pandering either

#

they got their aesthetic and other stuff that can appeal to most people that are into it

vast frigate
#

People whine about inferior in muscle etc

#

But recently we had tau breaking the arms of soldiers

storm jungle
#

Ely its 40k, people whine about everything

fervent prawn
#

they are weak tho

vast frigate
#

Nope

final spruce
#

I'm fine with Taus as long as they don't ruin my tabletop games

vast frigate
#

An earth caste member can snap your spine

final spruce
#

I got PSTD from those bastards

fervent prawn
#

and they try to be good so they must be PUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUURRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD

vast frigate
#

And then he does the texas

storm jungle
vast frigate
fervent prawn
#

tau

storm jungle
#

Yes

#

thats their name

#

good work

fervent prawn
#

must be

final spruce
fervent prawn
#

purged

vast frigate
#

Uwu fireblade sama

#

G8mme a fucking gun

storm jungle
#

1 sec

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@fervent prawn Why do you think tau are communists my friend?

fervent prawn
storm jungle
#

🗒️

fervent prawn
storm jungle
#

oh no his brain turned into mushrooms

vast frigate
#

Gonna load the groceries onto my car

fervent prawn
#

we all know orks are superior here

vast frigate
#

Later memers

fervent prawn
#

bye

final spruce
#

That wasn't the most exquisite of dodges

fervent prawn
#

orks

#

are good

#

ork logic is good

storm jungle
#

Senselessly killing innocent people amirite

fervent prawn
#

ye

#

cool

#

right

storm jungle
#

yeah guessed as much

#

lmao

fervent prawn
#

what else did you expect out of me, actually logical ghfgvjshgvfusgvfguyefs

#

the battle is over

#

the info is gone

#

is normal again

#

tau take they're place as try to be good and deserve to be purged

#

with they're small pp power

storm jungle
#

Learn to read

fervent prawn
#

what?

storm jungle
#

ye

fervent prawn
#

orks

storm jungle
#

Please stop posting orks

#

you insult their own intelligence

fervent prawn
#

but

#

but

storm jungle
#

wait

fervent prawn
#

but

storm jungle
#

Flesh

#

is that you

fervent prawn
storm jungle
#

ngl you are kinda really reminiscent of him

fervent prawn
#

of what

#

ghazghull

storm jungle
#

the way you act i mean

fervent prawn
#

oh

storm jungle
fervent prawn
#

i act like an asshole

storm jungle
#

Not like an asshole

#

just...moronic

#

if that makes sense

fervent prawn
#

i prefer asshole

storm jungle
#

Well you arent acting rude so it doesnt count

#

its more akin to a toddler

fervent prawn
#

tau are weeeaaaaabooooooo space communists

#

there?

storm jungle
#

Perfect thanks for supporting my example

fervent prawn
#

tau small pp

#

there?

#

asshole

#

im an asshole

#

now

storm jungle
#

👍

fervent prawn
#

nice

storm jungle
#

Anyway nice chat but I got art references to prepare

#

yeet

fervent prawn
#

bye

#

seya later

#

in this chat probaly

#

probabley

#

you guys still there?

#

bye

#

ima go

vast frigate
barren tapir
#

Dilara!

#

Put that link back!

storm jungle
barren tapir
#

I was reading!

#

Thanks, now you can delete if you want

storm jungle
#

LMAO nah nvm

barren tapir
#

Crap, i just read the title and already regret it

storm jungle
#

same

barren tapir
#

God, so fucking edgy and also ignorant on what servitors are... For the we will not have to pay for keeping them all their live remind me of my edgy moments when i was younger...

storm jungle
#

Also like, the entire reason servitors exist is because AI is outlawed

#

we'd just use robots KEK

#

you can already make convicts do safe chores by other means

barren tapir
#

The sixth point is so shortsighted that not even your noose can be seen if you try

storm jungle
#

Pretty much

vast frigate
fervent prawn
#

the asshole is back, hi everybody its your local greenskin

proper helm
#

The human rights respecter has logged on

storm jungle
#

Get em

proper helm
#

jesus some of their other posts

#

This is kinda fucking nasty so I'm gonna spoiler it
He asked in the rimworld subreddit if it would be possible to ||harvest wombs to use for cloning purposes||

storm jungle
#

bruh

#

yeah I made a mistake i think lmao

barren tapir
#

The guy of the reddit post?

peak hamlet
#

Average imperium fan

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"Yoo we made this super terrible faction doing super terrible things, we cranked it up to 11 so nobody will think they are the good guys right? right?"

cerulean wagon
storm jungle
#

because wew

cerulean wagon
#

oh

#

havent touched it yet

#

that bad?

storm jungle
#

Just... take a peak

#

the title alone is fine

plucky moth
#

why not just fuckin make an artificial one at that point anyway

#

Grimdark nerds forgetting tech advancement and the sciences are a thing

eternal ledge
#

Right?

#

I swear they always miss the fact that 40k's setting is mostly satire in the early editons

#

The 40k Imperium is NOT something to aspire to

#

It's one of the things I hate about American 40k fans

plucky moth
#

yea it's straight up a cartoonishly dystopian parody

#

which makes for good content but not a fuckin instruction manual lmao

cursive hull
#

So like

#

They'll do anything that tickles their pickle even if they forgot we fought a war against a regime with similar views

#

The US is unironically now filled with people who would have been okay with the Nazi's, so long as it was an all American group

primal tide
#

Not that different to before the US got into wwii

cursive hull
#

Of course.

primal tide
#

Plenty of people didn't want to get involved and were a-ok with what was going on over there

cursive hull
#

But again, the people I'm talking about are empty headed and think the still very conservative US has somehow changed a great deal.

Apparently not

eternal ledge
cursive hull
rose thorn
#

What does the imperium usually do with ocean planets?

plucky moth
#

They drink them

#

Actually dunno, I imagine any sort of industry that requires ocean access?

primal tide
#

Lithium production?

rose thorn
#

Ah makes sense.

dim totem
storm jungle
#

its basically the Imperium's policy with most worlds even if it takes multiple decades etc

smoky mauve
#

Shark themed marine chapters

final spruce
rose thorn
#

The most chaotic loyal legion

peak hamlet
primal tide
#

too many fingers

#

and proportionally still way too large

odd tulip
rose thorn
#

True

plucky moth
marsh grail
storm jungle
#

I mean

#

looks at real life

#

Yeah

marsh grail
#

I can’t wait till we can colonize Mars and take all its resources. That planet is so greedy hogging it all to itself.

smoky mauve
#

Delicious red sand

proper helm
#

Would blasting Orks with defoliant do anything?

cerulean wagon
#

uhhh

#

dont think so? depends

#

fungi aren't plants so its down to the defoliant in question

#

i'd say it'd prob kill the spores tho

proper helm
#

The most dangerous lawnwork

primal tide
#

Fungicide

fervent prawn
#

so now we talking about the 21st founding

#

the cursed founding

storm jungle
#

Not much to really talk about

#

its left obscure intentionally

rose thorn
#

Don’t like, most of the thousand sons despite Tzeetch?

#

Despise*

#

Actually, doesn’t the death guard hate Nurgle too?

#

At least EC and WE are at chill with their gods-

#

WE less so-

eternal ledge
#

Alot of the Thousand Sons who joined the Black Legion are like that

rose thorn
#

Yeah, I believe a huge chunk of the TS tried to kill Magnus actually-

#

I mean, they got fucking mulched

peak hamlet
cerulean wagon
#

Na they do, its not a fun experience

#

especially since marines are resistant to some of the psychic stuff so unlike standard nurgle followers would be fully aware of their current state

visual pumice
#

Yeah, they still can’t feel any of it as far as i know but they are fully aware of what they have become and most don’t enjoy it

storm jungle
#

Yeah its established that a lot of the Death Guard are delusional and got no idea whats going on around them hence why they're just so jolly

peak hamlet
#

Dilly proves my point, not knowing you dont enjoy it means you do enjoy it 😎

#

My logic is flawless

storm jungle
dim totem
#

man i wish i was a death guard marine

rose thorn
storm jungle
#

Yes.

rose thorn
#

ah

final spruce
#

I believe there is that moment with DG vs Saint Celestine when an anti warp bomb goes off and half of the DG scream in terror because they realised what they had become

peak hamlet
#

Wount that work just as well with khorne berzerkers and emperors children too?

cerulean wagon
#

less so with khorne, depends with EC

final spruce
#

Khorne berserkers not that much because their folly comes from their Butcher's Nails so its not warp related to some point

#

And EC yeah it depends

storm jungle
#

So, how do these seismic conflicts compare to a Genestealer Cult taking root below Terra’s surface? Well, the threat comes not from the uprising itself, but the fact that the Patriarch – known to its followers as the Begetor – is a psychic homing beacon for the Tyranid Hive Fleets whose tendrils are slowly, inexorably encircling the galaxy. That’s right – the Hive Mind now knows where we live!

#

Loving this shitty false-hype marketing KEK

scenic bolt
#

that or we're getting 40k endtimes

storm jungle
#

Not yet

peak hamlet
#

God just imagine the reee from all the custodes stans

storm jungle
#

40k is still making money

#

also man I HOPE SO

barren tapir
#

Nids knew where we lived since the pharos exploded during the horus betrayal

#

And since then, the more they close in our galaxy the more they see a giant lamp in the warp, which is the astronomican... In fact in older lore it was just the astronomican that was attracting the nids

#

Then they added that the first signal was the pharos exploding

peak hamlet
#

The tendrils closest to terra were destroyed, it would take ages for a new fleet to arrive

barren tapir
#

Genestealers on terra is just a minuscule lighthouse compared to the astronomican

#

the epicentre of a Genestealer Cult infestation!
FFS GW, there were and still are many cults on terra, this cult isn't the only one, nor it the first one

storm jungle
#

this post is cheesy af lul

barren tapir
#

During Goge Vandire’s ‘Reign of Blood’, civil war was rife across the galaxy. Vandire’s usurpation of the High Lords of Terra had been largely concealed by his shrewd manipulation of the Imperium’s glacial bureaucracy, so few were aware of the extent of his tyranny. Only when a Black Templars fleet returned to Segmentum Solar for resupply did they chance upon the gravity of Vandire’s actions.

Outraged that such treachery had been allowed to unfold unchallenged, High Marshal Sigenandus declared a Crusade against Holy Terra itself, and the corrupt tyrant at its heart. Other Chapters rallied to their cause, including the Imperial Fists, as well as Ecclessiarch Sebastian Thor’s Confederation of Light, and together they set foot on the Throneworld, though not as protectors but invaders.

The fighting was bloody, and dragged on for many months. The deadlock was eventually broken when Alicia Dominica, head of Vandire’s bodyguard, was granted an audience before the Golden Throne by a Companion of the Adeptus Custodes. She learned the truth of her master’s heresy, and beheaded Vandire shortly after, bringing an end to the internecine conflict.
So many fucking retcons in just so few phrases FFS

storm jungle
#

Retcons? Where

barren tapir
#

The Lion’s Gate Spaceport was all but overrun, with even a combined force of Grey Knights and Custodian Guard unable to stem the tide. Only the timely arrival of Roboute Guilliman and his battle-hardened reinforcements prevented the loss of the Emperor’s Palace itself.
The amount of plot armour had to be way more than the amount that Custodes have... YKES

barren tapir
# storm jungle Retcons? Where

Outraged that such treachery had been allowed to unfold unchallenged, High Marshal Sigenandus declared a Crusade against Holy Terra itself, and the corrupt tyrant at its heart.

#

It wasn't this once, it was vandire wanting to command the SM, and the SM wanting none of his BS

barren tapir
# storm jungle Retcons? Where

The deadlock was eventually broken when Alicia Dominica, head of Vandire’s bodyguard, was granted an audience before the Golden Throne by a Companion of the Adeptus Custodes.

storm jungle
#

Nah thats still there

#

they just skipped it

barren tapir
#

Custodes nearly had to beg her to follow them

storm jungle
#

High Marshal Sigenandus - Sigenandus was the High Marshal of the Black Templars during the tumultuous era known as the Wars of Apostasy in the 36th Millennium. A fiercely vengeful warrior, High Marshal Sigenandus was amongst the most fearsome warriors ever to command the Black Templars. Upon declaration of a Crusade, whichever foe was to be fought was doomed from that moment onwards as there would be no mercy shown until every last remnant of the enemy was destroyed.

Great was Sigenandus's rage after discovering the destruction of his Chapter's keeps in the Segmentum Solar by the traitorous High Lord Goge Vandire's fleets and, in retribution, in 378.M36, he gathered four Crusade fleets and set off towards Terra, and vengeance. The Black Templars, together with the Imperial Fists and two other Chapters, the Soul Drinkers and the zealous Fire Hawks, and elements of the Martian Skitarii, took the fight to Terra itself and laid siege to Vandire's Ecclesiarchal Palace. The Terran Crusade fell upon Vandire's forces like a thunderbolt, smashing into the deluded followers of the insane High Lord with terrifying fury.

The siege of Vandire's palace lasted many months and, together with Chapter Master Lazerian of the Imperial Fists, Sigenandus fought his way towards Vandire's chambers. The two warriors fought side by side with their Thunder Hammers, crushing all before them. At battle's end, with Vandire dead at the hands of his own bodyguard, the Brides of the Emperor, High Marshal Sigenandus still burned with fury at the destruction of his Chapter's keeps and the scale of the High Lord's betrayal. Determined that none should escape his vengeance, High Marshal Sigenandus set off from Terra to hunt down all those who had broken faith with the Emperor. Worlds burned as his quest took him throughout the galaxy until his eventual death in 522.M36.

#

these blog posts tend to skim over that stuff

barren tapir
#

Well, then they didn't just skimmed, they just ignored, they could have stated that in retribution for unprovoked attacks to their fortress, but on how they worded it it seems they just returned, took a look and went "oh boy, this isn't right"

storm jungle
#

Its fiiiiiiine

#

like i said the people that run the warhammer blog are just yes-men anyway

#

its not that important

barren tapir
#

You can learn more about the Talonhunt – the deadly quest undertaken by an elite strike team of Adeptus Custodes and Sisters of Silence to capture the Begator alive
Just why?!?! I guess they want to refill some dark cells... Dumb decision

eternal ledge
#

Also I was pretty sure the Astronomicon was attracting the bugs to Terra

#

They wouldn't need the cult to attract them. Maybe to act as a vanguard and sew chaos (lowercase c) in advance of the fleet

storm jungle
eternal ledge
storm jungle
#

Ngl I actually never seen SoS go against GSC before

#

hope they mention that 👀

eternal ledge
#

SoS getting updated rules period is good news

cerulean wagon
#

blanks vs nids is always fun to me

#

because it doesn't make it safe, it just makes them less organized

eternal ledge
#

But yeah it'd be interesting if there is in game rules for the brood-mind and if the SoS can break it and even the synaps creatures for the regular nids

cerulean wagon
#

they go from "very angry swarm of animals trying to kill you with one will" to "very angry animals trying to kill you"

odd sparrow
#

THIS IS BETTER BUT STILL NOT OKAY

storm jungle
#

JUST LIKE REAL LIFE

peak hamlet
peak hamlet
eternal ledge
vast frigate
barren tapir
#

I'm kinda intrigued as why they want the patriarch alive... I know that SoS know how to do some weird things with psykers... Like, make their head, and the heads of those connected to them, pop like pop corn in a microwave oven

cerulean wagon
#

maybe as a lure for the rest of the brood

frosty cobalt
#

Yea do the weird blank thing they did with the orks during the war of the beast

#

Also i learned that the T’au have a large variety of booze, but they have a really efficient filter system so they rarely get wasted

odd sparrow
#

The filter system ensuring alcohol doesn't get wasted is a group of squat-adapted kroot

frosty cobalt
#

Lmao

#

But i just imagine like some imperial trying to poison a tau and the taus just like “dang this drink is off, oh well”

#

Xv 15 i miss you

#

I like the sussy suits but dang they look un-agile

frosty cobalt
#

A slannesh daemon corrupts a bretonian knight

storm jungle
#

hot

#

also borrowing

glad prism
#

Same

errant mauve
# frosty cobalt

Extra spiky elbow pad to execute the people's elbow on unsuspecting victims

odd sparrow
storm jungle
peak hamlet
#

Leviathan heading to terra after eating the orks? Very based

#

Man reading that was a pain, can we maybe depics nids as not fucking dumb for once?

#

||Glad they won on octarius tho||

storm jungle
#

||The Swarmlord having to get slapped around at first even if he wins later on is so shitty lmao||

peak hamlet
#

||If enemy good at melee dont melee, shoot him instead. Gw writers at its best again||

odd sparrow
#

<@&735928989146939404> scam

barren tapir
lofty storm
#

Alright. It's official.

#

I found the inspiration. The reason I love the BT and how I think of them.

#

There's an excerpt from Helsreach that paints Grimaldus and his retinue as zealots in the name of Dorn and I think this is the balance I like to see from them.

#

||They dropped into the cathedral atop Stormherald and surrounding them are statues carved of the Primarchs. But these are not grand or extreme statues, just natural depictions if their Fathers. Above Bastian is the statue of Rogal Dorn. "Dorn stood apart from his brothers, neither facing his kin, nor looking into the skies above. His regal visage was aimed at the ground to his left, as if the Primarch stared at something vital only he could see. The robe he wore was plainer than those adorning his brothers' icons, thought it showed a cross on its breast, sculpted with care. Although he had been the Golden Lord, the commander if the Imperial Fists, his personal heraldry had inspired that of his Templars sons who followed. His hands were what drew the knights' eyes more than any other aspect in this gathering of demigods. One was held to his chest, the fingertips joined to the cross there, frozen in mid-stroke. The other was held out in the direction Dorn stared, palm up and kindly, as if offering aid to one who would rise from the floor. It was quite the most humble and exquisite rendition if their gene-father Grimaldus had ever laid eyes on. He fought the sudden burning urge to fall to his knees in reverent prayer."||

#

My head cannon that Grimaldus' best vision of his father is one where his father is humble and not in the throws of violence, but extending a hand to help another in need.

#

Some like... Actually morally decent shit.

visual pumice
#

I thought Grimaldus was a title?

storm jungle
#

wait WHAT

lofty storm
#

Reclusiarch is the title.

#

Grimaldus is his name.

lofty storm
lofty storm
visual pumice
#

I didn’t know that

lofty storm
#

Yee

storm jungle
#

Thats up there with Emil Darkhammer

visual pumice
#

Malus Darkblade

final spruce
#

Or John Land

#

The guy that found the STC for the Land Speeder

barren tapir
#

Arkhan

peak hamlet
#

John warhammer

barren tapir
#

It was arkhan land

#

This guy

visual pumice
#

Jimmy Space

#

Leader of the Space Marines

barren tapir
#

Also arkhan land gave the name to the currently used galvanic rifle pattern... Something something Ad. Mech. never innovate

peak hamlet
rotund siren
#

The myth

primal tide
#

The beans

storm jungle
#

The fucko

lofty storm
#

Bro. And then this chapter ends and makes me wanna cry.

#

😔

crisp heath
#

Cool tech grandpa

#

o7

proper helm
#

Is it actually true that the Leman Russ can run on basically anything?

final spruce
cursive hull
#

Which is based on real multifuel engine concepts, all originating from the Cold War fear of gasoline going kaput.

#

Its a good idea, and its actually a great example of the Imperium not being stupid

#

The design of the Leman Russ, we can talk about

#

But a multifuel engine ain't a bad idea in their case.

cerulean wagon
#

based chieftan multi fuel engines

#

🙏

fervent prawn
#

i just realized heaps of law behind the emperor and that in 40k they had a robo uprising.

storm jungle
#

and yeah every sci-fi universe kind of has a robot uprising

fervent prawn
#

i is suprised

#

also there is lost primarchs

storm jungle
#

Yes, these are are known things

fervent prawn
storm jungle
#

Theres nothing to know

#

they're just dead

#

the books drop hints but they arent really ever gonna be revealed

peak hamlet
#

Hopefully

barren tapir
# storm jungle they're just dead

Pretty sure that big E simply lost them in the galaxy, you know, he doesn't really pay much attentions to his tools... Sons i meant...

storm jungle
#

it kinda depends

#

lexicanum has a really good page on them both

#

and its filled with contradictiong bullshit

barren tapir
storm jungle
#

since its from so many book accounts

fervent prawn
#

but the legions could have still lived

storm jungle
#

Nah

peak hamlet
#

There are just some parts of the lore that dont need to be explored further. Dont ruin it gw

fervent prawn
#

executed?

barren tapir
storm jungle
cerulean wagon
#

they were put in by the original author with no intention to expand on them

storm jungle
#

^

peak hamlet
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Im pretty sure they were just put into other existing legions

cerulean wagon
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its literaly just there for the mystery

fervent prawn
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what was the aliens that the dark angels go extinct?

storm jungle
cerulean wagon
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a lot

storm jungle
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its just there as a nod to the lost roman legions

peak hamlet
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Like the remaining.. uuhhh idk but something got put into the ultramarine legion, forgot what it was

storm jungle
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also you mean the Rangdan i think

fervent prawn
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no the aliens they wiped out

storm jungle
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I mean

fervent prawn
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the race

storm jungle
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that doesnt narrow down anything

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LMAO

cerulean wagon
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there was a lot crossbow

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there was a great crusade across the galaxy

storm jungle
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Its like asking what country the U.S invaded

cerulean wagon
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lotta aliens went extinct

fervent prawn
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when the great crusade was happening

storm jungle
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again

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a lot

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you gotta be specific

fervent prawn
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only the dark angels got involved

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and ye

peak hamlet
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They just went through the galaxy and eradicated any alien race they could find

fervent prawn
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not all

storm jungle
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Yeah this doesnt really narrow it down

peak hamlet
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Yee not all ofc

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But like a lot

fervent prawn
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humans still live with aliens, space marines still hate them

storm jungle
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Ehh

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depends

cerulean wagon
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Humans live with abhumans, which are just mutant humans

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the only xenos really in human territory is the monkey bois

peak hamlet
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Im not aware of any humans that live with xenos

storm jungle
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Yeah its not like other sci-fi humans. The Imperium's racist outview against other aliens make it hard

peak hamlet
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Well besides tau

storm jungle
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they appear in one book as a peaceful civilization with humans and aliens

peak hamlet
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Imperial humans i mean

fervent prawn
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you know the emperor was made of multiple souls? of the first psykers. is cool concept

storm jungle
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AH my bad

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fervent prawn
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ik

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but

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still

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cool

storm jungle
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very

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cool

visual pumice
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humans in scifi cringe

scenic bolt
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well the dangles may be working with xenos