40k-lore-chat

[atomic pelican]

LMAO

[frosty cobalt]

lov the d cannon

[atomic pelican]

Good

[frosty cobalt]

lil doggo

[final spruce]

It was great because my friend was like "NUUUUU CALGAR IS IMMUNE TO ONESHOT LOOK AT DEM RULES"

[frosty cobalt]

i like to think guardian squads get attached to their d cannon

[atomic pelican]

Pet

[final spruce]

And I was like " The rule stipulates its not an instakill, you just remove the mini from the battlefield"

[frosty cobalt]

lol

[atomic pelican]

Sent to Brazil

[barren tapir]

He is not dead, he just went on vacation

[frosty cobalt]

emotional fisto man destroyed by eldar facts and logic

[final spruce]

Exactly

[atomic pelican]

Didnt vibro cannons use to literally rotate models?

[final spruce]

He just joined the grey knight chapter master

[atomic pelican]

I remember, I think, watchijg snipe and web talk abt a old eldar codex

And one of the support weapons could flip models to represent smthing

[final spruce]

Yep in 2nd edition

[cursive hull]

"TURN AROUND!"

[cerulean wagon]

eldar rules can be great

i wanna see em get an updat4e

always fun

[cursive hull]

That is fucking comical.

In just the best way.

[atomic pelican]

Oh yeah, im hyped

Esp since that leak continues to be true

[cursive hull]

Oh, your model with a rocket launcher has los?
Fires weapon, flips their model
Not anymore!

[atomic pelican]

CSM/Eldar time 2022

Im really hoping Battle Focus gets a complete look at and shift

Its a fun rule just because zoomies but It could be more creative

[cerulean wagon]

plastic aspect warriors please

🙏

[atomic pelican]

Yes god

Im literally buildinf a eldar army just out of the plastics rn

[cursive hull]

I might actually really like the Eldar models if they updated them.

[atomic pelican]

Dire avengers and Banshees + ths vehicles and wraith models fbdd

[cerulean wagon]

assuming u have looked at the banshee update carro?

[atomic pelican]

Banshees look Great

So do Avengers

[cursive hull]

I think so?

I don't remember

[atomic pelican]

Imo literally every updated model looks good

The chickenwalker has even grown on me

Esp since they can field so many bright lances

[cerulean wagon]

https://www.games-workshop.com/resources/catalog/product/920x950/99120104064_HowlingBanshees01.jpg

[atomic pelican]

Hoping for bright lances to get the Dark lance treatment

[cerulean wagon]

thats the new banshees carro

[atomic pelican]

Theres a helmetless option for the Exarch too which is Sneat

[cursive hull]

Hrm... Better than it was, but it'd be better with a less matte color scheme

What about the Dire Avengers?

[cerulean wagon]

arent the avengers still old?

[atomic pelican]

Nah they are plastic

[cerulean wagon]

i know they are plastic

[cursive hull]

The highlights do a lot of carrying on Eldar models, I feel

If the Banshee's had a similar scheme? I'd like them better, the matte white doesn't look great to me.

[atomic pelican]

Not sure when they came out tbh

I dont have a pic of my avengers, but I love the dual shuriken pose

Only pic I can find

[cerulean wagon]

they can be coloured however carro

[atomic pelican]

Yee

[cerulean wagon]

different craftworlds n all

ulthwe my beloved

[atomic pelican]

Its actually based on the shrine!

Aspect warriors dont color match to their craftworld

[cerulean wagon]

https://www.warhammer-community.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/10/40kCraftworldFocus-Ulthwe-Image3ofs.jpg

[atomic pelican]

Well, atleast not usually

[final spruce]

Dire avengers plastic were release the November 2006

[cursive hull]

Don't Dire Avengers typically match?

[atomic pelican]

Well, the main shrine ans the original colors are blue white yes

But

Different shrines have varied off

[cursive hull]

I think the Banshee's do usually have bone white armor, while Spiders have red armor, if I remember correctly.

[atomic pelican]

And have variations, diff colors

[final spruce]

I got all release dates on hand rn

[atomic pelican]

Yes those are the main shrine colors, ex) the first shrine colors

They are the most common

But much like teaching variations, colors may change

[cursive hull]

Fair

[atomic pelican]

Ex) there are often several shrines of one aspect on a craftworld

For every exarch on the board. There is a shrine

[cerulean wagon]

basically the uhh

traditional colour needs to be somewhere on the armour

[atomic pelican]

So for example, you may have 2 scorpion shrines on one craftworld. One who's teachings focus on the stealth of the jungle, camouflage and such. And one motifd on deserts

Yeah thats usually how I see it too

[cerulean wagon]

helmet, or chest markings or something

[cursive hull]

Basically different dojo's, etc.

[cerulean wagon]

but the majority of the armour can be w/e

[atomic pelican]

Yee

They respect their original shrine source while building their own

In colors and in training styles

It makes craftworlds a fun army to paint imo

Since you have your non aspect warriors matching the craftworld, then your aspect rainbow

[cursive hull]

yee

Guardians definitely match, they're just militia, vehicles, walkers, etc, weapon teams.

[atomic pelican]

Yee

Any nonaspect warrior

[cerulean wagon]

brightlance weapon team, my beloved

[atomic pelican]

YES

I put bright lances on all my warwalkere

Theyre gonna be mega hype when buffed to dark lance level

[errant mauve]

New White Dwarf heresy article confirmed my long claim that IW's were a Mark 2 legion

Feelsgoodman

[neat fiber]

Chaos undivided is the stupidest sounding name to me

[errant mauve]

Ok

[atomic pelican]

Chaos Indivisible

[errant mauve]

Chaos Agnostic

[scenic bolt]

Chaos United FC

[neat fiber]

Chaos. Just chaos...I'm not chaos

[tender igloo]

i'm here to kill chaos

https://tenor.com/view/chaos-final-fantasy-final-fantasy-origins-fuckchaos-imustkillchaos-gif-21963820

[cerulean wagon]

thats bullshit

[storm jungle]

GET EM

[serene jungle]

Is that the dude who will save 40k?

[crisp heath]

Chaos man is getting rekted by a bro in a V neck lmao

[peak hamlet]

Comically big sword

Also strong man 😳

[primal tide]

It is important to grasp the neck firmly

[storm jungle]

https://www.reddit.com/r/ShaskaisWarhamBits/comments/qi1dg4/interesting_bits_from_warzone_octarius_book_1_the/

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/368066737167400960/903760725204414464/unknown.png

Lots of memes and tragedy in equal measure from the looks of it.

Also some highlights I liked lol:

||Even though the strategy was a success, the Imperium still suffered. On the world of Gratu, the Tyranids consumed heretics and genestealer cultists alike but at the same time, they consumed the native livestock resulting in the near annihilation of the guardsmen regiments via starvation. Desperate guardsmen ate Tyranid flesh which ended with them in month-long quarantines or being sent on suicide missions.||

||On the world of Death of Bianzeer, thousands of ice-canid sled teams lured the Tyranids to the great lakes. The ice that covered the lakes was dangerously thin. To the untrained eye, there is no difference between the frozen ground and water. The sled teams navigated the lakes safely while the Tyranids swarms shattered the ice beneath them and fell into the freezing waters. The sled teams cheered and praised the Emperor but their celebrations were cut short when the Tyranids burst out of the water and ice unharmed. The sled teams were all but slaughtered with a few managing to escape.||

||Inquisitor Nashir strove in haste to find reinforcements from outside the sub-sector. He emptied entire worlds of their defenders, even those that were in the grips of heretical and xenos attacks. He intercepted reinforcements to other warzones and redirected them to Pankallis. The damage his efforts were causing did not concern him. He could not afford to care. The Pankallis sub-sector must be held no matter the cost. In less than a year, his grand project was on the edge of total disaster.||

||During their destabilization raids in Orctarius, Deathwatch team discovered an Ork invention that broke the synapse of the Tyranids. The invention was in the form of an electrical crown. Seeing the potential of the crown, the Deathwatch plunged into a battle between the Orks and Tyranids and took the crown for themselves.||

Also has some Inquisitorial Plot with a few Eldar near the end

[peak hamlet]

I choose to ignore the last bit, the others were cool tho

[storm jungle]

Dog-sleds save the day

https://tenor.com/view/gone-to-the-snow-dogs-gttsd-snow-dogs-husky-siberian-husky-gif-19963468

[errant mauve]

ice-canid sled teams

Doggo-nids soon

[storm jungle]

[peak hamlet]

Dog bugs

Based

[barren tapir]

The invading Orks went straight to Forge world of Karnak III. The warboss leading them had waged war before in the system and knew exactly how to dismantle the world’s formidable orbital defenses. The Orks used Admech and Imperial vessels captured from previous battles with the Admech to draw close to the world. The Blood Axes aboard the ships forced the humans crews to communicate with the Forge World and give the security codes. When the ships were close enough, they set them on collision courses. By the time the tech-magi realized the trick and opened fire, it was too late. The Blood Axes evacuated the ships and filled their dropships with laughter as the captured ships smashed into the orbital defenses, destroying and crippling most of the them. With the way open, the Ork armada descended on the planet.
What kind of BS is this??

Damn, such dumb plot forced points

[final spruce]

Blood axes, actually intelligent, smart and Kunning orks

Well ... for orks so a normal blood axe is barely as intelligent as a human but their boss are actually good tacticians even to the Imperium standards

[barren tapir]

Good thing that it wasn't what irritated me... I know that blood axes can be smart, for ork standards, no, what irritate me is the fact that the imperial are simply dumb, and not even normal imperial worlds, no, the Ad. Mech. ones, that i'm pretty sure keep track of what they lose, especially ships... But eh, i bet that they didn't thought about ships that were lost to orks that somehow managed to appear near a forge world...
Or how those humans happily complied to the orks orders... I bet they were hoping to be saved by their mushrooms overlords after all

If the summaries are really close on how it was exactly written then it sound more a fan fin where something had to go in an exact way without considering how...

[final spruce]

Oh nevermind then, I imagine the orks managed to keep the word from spreading once they captured the ships since they still had the humans inhabitants

[cerulean wagon]

you know canid means dog right

[cerulean wagon]

thats not that bad?

like

people fell for a trick because they didnt expect orks to do something like that

[barren tapir]

The deployment of Four Deathwatch companies turned the tide of the war. The marines struck at vital targets within the swarms and disrupted their ability to wage war in the system. The breathing space created by the marines allowed the guardsmen to organize and throw back the Tyranid attacks and grind the Tyranid invasion to a halt. It's without a doubt that the Deathwatch is the only reason why the system remains within the Emperor's realm.
This was after the ice-canid sled teams story... Of course SM were those who saved the day with a very fast and precise attack that shattered the cohesion and capacity to wage war of the nids in a system... FUCK SM

[cerulean wagon]

i actually like the sled bit until the nids come back up from the water

nids are not immune to ice

[barren tapir]

^^

Eh, nids had to come back otherwise SM couldn't win the day

And the guard would win, we all know that such thing cannot happen

[storm jungle]

@barren tapir I agree with the complaint, what the Blood Axes did is smart but like

an Imperial planet like that wouldnt be just

"give us your clearance code and you're home free"

but I guess you could say the orks just yolo'd it

[barren tapir]

Imperial planets have been know to shoot first and then ask later, forge worlds are even more isolationist that normal imperial worlds

[storm jungle]

Yeee this is obviously just codex-stuff you shouldnt care about but still

[barren tapir]

The orks did something completely plausible, it is the other side that simply went "ah ah ah, ship got codes feel free to go wherever you want"

No question like "why are you here and where have you been", like full report we thought you lost and all that

[storm jungle]

Thats not exactly the dumbest shit in this codex either

[barren tapir]

Nope, yeah, you have codes, maybe even old ones, but i guess they still check out

[cloud kindle]

look

tech priests are shitposters

[cerulean wagon]

also because of the warp i doubt travel delays are checked that often

[odd sparrow]

idk they're weird alien things

[cloud kindle]

so there is 100% possibility they let them pass just so they can make the old code memes

[odd sparrow]

i guess they just dont go into cold water shock or whatever

[cerulean wagon]

they are weird and alien but they are still biological

[barren tapir]

I mean, the nids had fins? Because how the hell did they swim?

[cerulean wagon]

nids have to specifically adapt to environments to deal with stuff, if these were terrestrial (which by the sounds they were) they wouldnt be adapted for swimming

[scenic bolt]

I always saw them sorta as tardigrades, still bio, but insanely resilient to environmental concerns

[cerulean wagon]

unless it was like, rippers

[barren tapir]

And if the teams knew where the ice was solid enough to keep them on, how did the nids break it so easily?

[cerulean wagon]

nids fat

[barren tapir]

Ok, so how the hell did they break ice on the ascent?

[cloud kindle]

cause they fat

[peak hamlet]

Nids hyper evolve and adapt to their threats. Unless they are meant to loose because codex moment

[odd sparrow]

maybe it was a v shallow lake idk

[barren tapir]

I was referring when they resurface, not when they fell

[odd sparrow]

i could see like gaunts doing a lil doggy paddle

a carnifex would just sink like a brick tho

[storm jungle]

Yall need to read further down

more eldar die again

[barren tapir]

I don't think they razor claws are good for swimming

[storm jungle]

[odd sparrow]

the spectre of gav thorpe approves

[scenic bolt]

eldar are forbidden from winning

[storm jungle]

same

[cerulean wagon]

na my fav dilara

[scenic bolt]

even in their own dex

[cerulean wagon]

is that despite there already being IG stationed in system

[barren tapir]

For being a dying race there are always some for when they have to die

[cerulean wagon]

its the deathwatch that are the first responders

[storm jungle]

IKR

also what the fuck is this book going on about planetary systems

HOW BIG ARE THESE THINGS

[barren tapir]

Tiny

[storm jungle]

a planet pops up with every sentence

[barren tapir]

They manage to go from one to the other so fast that they didn't even had to wait a week

And the best thing is that it is a so much controlled place of space that no one had a clue with their movements, i guess the listening station work only inside the system and no deep space outpost is present... Oh, wait, that is what the deathwatch should do

[storm jungle]

40k lore is bad

[barren tapir]

These stories are bad... They sound like bad fan fiction

[cerulean wagon]

on a positive note

[scenic bolt]

the curse of 40k

[cerulean wagon]

the deathwatch lose

[barren tapir]

FFS in one story they say that something didn't worked on the xenos and the successive one they did the same and was a super success

[barren tapir]

I guess i didn't reached that point, because for now it is the only imperial faction winning lol

Oh, wait, an IG victory...

[storm jungle]

Yeah everyone dies in the end lmao

well everyone as in DW and the Eldar

also the Inquisitor

[barren tapir]

On planet Irnwald, the battles between the Orks and Tyranids escalated to such intensity that it threatened to overrun a crucial Factorum city. The Imperial Guard was forced to step in to protect it. The heavy tanks of the Ultramar Auxillia and Cadian armored regiments dueled the bio-titans and Ork walkers. And many hundreds of thousands of guardsmen were drawn to the battle. It eventually ended in an Imperial victory though it came at the cost of 90% of the city being damaged beyond repair.
VICTORY!
Also, they should expand on this, because this sound like that the xenos were outside the city and the IG went lol, i wanna partecipate too

[barren tapir]

Lo, well, at least they died like they lived i guess... In a dumb way

Also it is incredible how an uprising on a world could be so strong that block it completely when here we have multiple uprising from both chaos cults and genestealers but seems like minor nuisances

Lol, the inquisitor that die isn't the same of the cordona something

Also show the eldar being scared by genestealers, while only the deatwatch kept their cool

Lol

-It's reported that the Skarboys of Octarius are the same size as the Beast Orks in Imperial Apocrypha records.
Ok, this interesting...

[atomic pelican]

Gav moment

[barren tapir]

Orks bigger than a primarch, and while once there were what? Seven? Now they are definitely more...

[primal tide]

quality writing

[atomic pelican]

Im fairly certain the people that write 40k now are in a rush to the bottom

[barren tapir]

Oh nice, so those skarboys are the size of a small gargant... And i'm going with the smallest beast size that the imperium could have met and recorded... So, yeah, or someone didn't checked established lore before or we have small titan size mushrooms going around in great enough number to be nothing unique... Noice

[errant mauve]

@frosty cobalt do tau smoke?

[atomic pelican]

Big weed

[odd sparrow]

tau have incredible amounts of medicinal weed in like, neat orderly tablets and stuff

as opposed to the other weed faction, exodites, who just put it in literally everything and anything

[atomic pelican]

Big doinks

Legendary Elf weed

Each aeldari faction has their own drug

Asuryani have downers, Exodites smoke fat doinks, and Drukhari do turboheroin

[odd sparrow]

asuryani just have fucktons of entirely warranted antidepressants

drukhari drugs cause you to bleed out of hitherto undiscovered orifices

[atomic pelican]

Reminder that theres a canonical drukhari drug called liquid agony

Which just sounds swell

[odd sparrow]

lmao

in character

[frosty cobalt]

I think ive seen a pipe mentioned once, but il not 100% on that

[errant mauve]

Thank

I like the idea of a fire warrior looting IG bodies for cigarettes

[final spruce]

No ! No the sticks !

[errant mauve]

your lho sticks belong to the greater good now

[final spruce]

So that's why they are recruiting Guevasa

Note to self for the Next Only War session, use my ratling skills to steal as much Lhos ticks as possible from the Taus

[errant mauve]

Warcrimes

[final spruce]

Oh we already did that plenty

Killing earth caste "civilians"

[cerulean wagon]

its only been a few so far

[final spruce]

so far

[odd palm]

Common sense opinion inbound

Space Wolves are a joke

[glad prism]

Space Wolves are my life (my life is a joke)

[odd palm]

Don't demean yourself to the levels of the SW, smh

[cursive hull]

I don't mind the Space Wolves when they aren't being flanderized.

Not my favorite chapter but I get the appeal

(And besides that, they aren't the first thing in history to be wolf'd into oblivion.)

(the Legend of Lycaon, for one)

[errant mauve]

Rare luximus sighting

[peak hamlet]

Agree with carro on this

[prisma lark]

same with every other chapter, really

even the Ultras can be interesting when not flanderized/Ward'd

[vast frigate]

It wasnt matt wards fault

[glad prism]

Really wasn't, he was contracted to write an Ultramarines codex that was retroactively decided to be made into Codex Space Marines by management

You can shit on Ward's abilities as a writer and for what rules he did come up with though, but it wasn't his fault that GW took the root it did. Definitely not all of it

[final spruce]

Matt Ward was good at making Fluffy rules but that were overpowered compared to other codexes

[storm jungle]

https://www.reddit.com/r/40kLore/comments/qjmgdw/40ks_halloween_history_vampires/

rip

[peak hamlet]

Valrak my unbeloved

[barren tapir]

Well, Valrak was right, his friend was an asshole

I mean, i would say to go back to twilight to my worst enemy... It is too harsh even for him

[glad prism]

I mean, Blood Angels, all well and good. Don't think having other vampiric creatures or races would really be all that out of line.

[cerulean wagon]

ye but valrak only does SM

its literaly no surprise

[odd sparrow]

yee he's v focused on marines

[storm jungle]

Hard to notice at first ngl

[dim totem]

tbf

i like robert pattinson

[placid timber]

What sucking space marine cock constantly does to a mfer

i do not like valrak very much

[cerulean wagon]

nore do i

although thats not helped by him being one of the faces of the community and still spreading DT misinfo

😩

[rose thorn]

Flayed tau skin is blue right?

[odd sparrow]

yee should be

i believe their blood is meant to be red so it's not influenced by the blood, it's just tau skin having a weird pigmentation

[rose thorn]

Ok because I never see any models wearing tau skin so I thought there was some weird ass shit

Or normal skin looks better

That’s probs why

[odd sparrow]

ye

[rose thorn]

Also I’m pretty sure no one wears ork skin because it just becomes fungus, so there’s not real point unless you fucking soak it in chemicals

[serene jungle]

Do you become an ork if you wear it long enough?

[odd sparrow]

strictly speaking orks aren't meant to be fully fungal, they're just a regular animal with symbiotic fungal reproductive cycles and organs

[serene jungle]

Is that why Yarrick can speak fluent ork?

[odd sparrow]

plus food

[rose thorn]

I’m pretty sure it’s it’s because Yarrick is kinda fucking insane, and his power claw is dependent on the orks

[serene jungle]

His suit is made out of ork fungus 😄

its canon you heard it here first

Cool

Thanks for enlightening me

[rose thorn]

I would consider letting a model wear tyranid skin, but it’s kinda pointless

Because it’s just an animal

[cerulean wagon]

hes not the only one that understands orkish

theres a few characters that do cause its like

a weird semi established language

[rose thorn]

True

[vast frigate]

Valrak is really just a gw space marine simp

Hes a great guy

But hes a heavy gw stan

[open summit]

I just now saw one of the last reveal videos... Genestealers on Holy Terra itself!?

[odd sparrow]

that's been a thing for ages yee

[vast frigate]

Yeah

[open summit]

Legit I've never seen a reference to that until now.

[vast frigate]

There was a single stealthy boi who got frisky with a girl

And that cult went deep

[odd sparrow]

u may think that terra should be this magnificent impregnable planetwide fortress occupied purely by the nobility and military

but it's actually just as much of a clusterfuck as any other hive world

[vast frigate]

Then again theres been hints of the tyranids from since before the dark age so

[open summit]

I know it's the most overpopulated world in the imperium.

[odd sparrow]

that comes with the routine cult presences

[vast frigate]

Like

[odd sparrow]

idk how far back it's mentioned but im p sure the last GSC codex mentioned it

[vast frigate]

Theres magos biologis that have found data on tyranids from the yesr 25.000

[odd sparrow]

cus the last GSC codex mentioned it relevant to like,, just about any remotely well known 40k planet

[vast frigate]

So thats atleast 6000 years before the heresy

[open summit]

I wonder if this means Genestealers (and maybe Tyranids) are getting a Codex refresh?

Since the former is getting new models.

[vast frigate]

Refreshes dont happen

[open summit]

I meant a new codex

[vast frigate]

Only one per edition and then supplememts

[odd sparrow]

yee GSC are

i dont think we're getting news on nids

nid fans are all hollows at this point

[vast frigate]

If the codex is out a new one is off the table

Only supplements

:(

I want nids to have cool new models

[odd sparrow]

i have a nid fan friend and man the depression is real

poor bug hours

[open summit]

I don't think Genestealers have a 9e codex yet.

[cerulean wagon]

their codex just got announced yesterday

[open summit]

I didn't notice it

I'm super behind on reveals

[final spruce]

They just got the Octarius supplement tho

[atomic pelican]

Yes Cults have been on Terra since their first codex officially

Hell the last major cult on Terra was actually 4AE, which is funny since this uprising is Pauper Princes

[barren tapir]

Which before now never had anything linking them to terra

[odd sparrow]

throw a rock at any even remotely major planet in the imperium and watch as a bug crawls out of the nearest hole to rocksaw it

[atomic pelican]

No, the codex specifically said terra was a source world for the 4AE

And yeah

[barren tapir]

I was referring to the pauper princes

[atomic pelican]

Theres a cult on basicallt every major world

[barren tapir]

4AE was definitely based on terra

[atomic pelican]

O oki

Yee

[barren tapir]

And the scratching inside the lair were... Weird

And TBF on terra there are so many different genestealers cults that for each one that get putted down two more spawn

[atomic pelican]

Yeee

[barren tapir]

And the custodes are simply, lol, they don't threat the palace, we don't care

Then one go "ah ah, i'm gonna scratch the wall" and the custodes go "cowabunga it is!!"

[tender igloo]

https://tenor.com/view/talons-of-the-emperor-warhammer40k-land-raider-wh40k-adeptus-custodes-gif-19456934

[final spruce]

Seems like in the Custodes 8th edition the banana boys already had to eradicate a GSC cult and actually lost a decent bunch of custos

[atomic pelican]

Yeee that was the 4AE

Thats why Custode fans malding makes such little sense now

Its already happened before

[plucky moth]

Tbh idk jack shit about GSC lore

Seems interesting tho

I’d like 2 extra arms

[atomic pelican]

Yess

Oh speaking of extra arms

Its really interesting to me that Thrayk seems to be a 4th gen cultist yet has 3 arms, 2 of which are 3rd gen style

Its nice to see 4th gens with more mutations than just bald human

[plucky moth]

Oh I wanna keep my hair tho

[smoky mauve]

Everyone needs more full heads of hair

[primal tide]

imagine being able to paint minis with an extra hand

[atomic pelican]

Powerful

[frosty cobalt]

Nid skulls of tyrants and lictors would be a good prize tho

[rose thorn]

True, but skulls aren’t really slaaneshy

[smoky mauve]

That's not what a Slanesh cultist would say. Anything can be sexy if you're touched enough by the monarch of excess

... plus it would piss of Khorne.... lmao

[rose thorn]

True lmao

Also, I’d like to say, Followers of Slaanesh cannontically can have female space marines

[marsh grail]

Really?

Got any examples?

[neat fiber]

https://tenor.com/view/if-the-emperor-had-a-text-to-speech-device-slaanesh-patrol-gif-14922012

[distant fable]

Started reading the first Horus heresy book so far it’s pretty fuckin good glad I picked it up

[storm jungle]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/368066737167400960/904710286919991326/image0.jpg?width=608&height=608

[serene jungle]

So how did that go for them?

[eternal ledge]

Seize the means of mekboy production

[rose thorn]

Slaanesh’s gift Hermaphrodite let’s the them change their gender, and let’s them be both genders at the same time

[odd sparrow]

nb chaos marines u say

[marsh grail]

Wow

[cursive hull]

I don't think it quite works like that.

To my knowledge, Slaaneshi blessed marines do take on an Androgynous appearance, similar to most things Slaanesh.

But its not an active process to my understanding.

But I don't know for sure.

[storm jungle]

Basically depends on the plot

its an active ability from older warham stuff too

[primal tide]

Infinite variations, all according to the authors whim

Truly, tzeentch is pleased

[rose thorn]

Well it’s my excuse to make my master of possession a female

[storm jungle]

All the more power ✊

[ashen lake]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ddOW-LCCo_Q

[storm jungle]

On today's reddit-moments

https://www.reddit.com/user/Moonreaper666/

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/294604960614842368/905200403942101032/unknown.png

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/294604960614842368/905200451815895111/unknown.png

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/294604960614842368/905200528336756777/unknown.png

😫

[barren tapir]

GSC killed trajan predecessor?

[peak hamlet]

Medic moment

[storm jungle]

Eerily accurate

[barren tapir]

I think that GSC killing the predecessor of trajann is wrong

[storm jungle]

Oh yeah this guy is just speaking out of his ass

[barren tapir]

The guy simping for CSM is clearly dumb, but the OP, called wallname_liability, is simply wrong stating that GSC killed trajann predecessor

[storm jungle]

[cursive hull]

Real big medic moment

I mean, really.

"Loyalists suffer from aging."

So how come not one loyalist space marine has died of old age yet?

[storm jungle]

His account speaks for itself tbh

[storm jungle]

Also hey, we also suffer from aging

🧠

[errant mauve]

Rare CSM simp spotted

I shall turn this into a cryptocurrency

[barren tapir]

WTH is this shiz?

[storm jungle]

pain

[errant mauve]

NFTs but it's 40k Reddit profiles

[peak hamlet]

https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/warhammer40k/images/8/82/The_lost_and_the_damned.png/revision/latest/scale-to-width-down/865?cb=20150621064430

Gw when

Plastic vraks militia wen

https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/warhammer40k/images/5/5c/Vraksian_Renegade_Militia1.jpg/revision/latest/scale-to-width-down/697?cb=20130226045228

Also renegades & heretics in general

Only faction without gw rules yet 😭

https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/warhammer40k/images/7/7d/Traitor_Guardsmen-0.jpg/revision/latest/scale-to-width-down/988?cb=20160821154456

PLEAS

[tender igloo]

i hope to god instead of the codex being called chaos space marines it's called the lost and the damned again

[peak hamlet]

God yes please

Lost and the damned > ChAoS sPaCe MaRiNeS

temporary typo moment

[tender igloo]

chaos space marines are a big part for sure, but i want to see traitor guard and cultists play a bigger role

[peak hamlet]

Yeah, i want to be able to make a renegade force without marines. Not that i would do that but i just want to be able to do so

Also add these when you are at it https://wahapedia.ru/wh40k9ed/factions/renegades-and-heretics/

[smoky mauve]

Having no rules for renegade guard is a travesty.

[peak hamlet]

Yee u basically have to buy 500 different forge world books and try to figure out which ones work with 9th edition and which ones dont

[smoky mauve]

Dint they realize how many more guard units would sell, AND kits with nice warpy bits?

[tender igloo]

GW: "LOL buy more books scrub"

although i can't say much because my orks got a refresh and i'm happy

[smoky ferry]

If the leaks are to believed then chaos gets cultists/traitor guard

[visual pumice]

Yer

[tender igloo]

i mean the leaks have been 100% accurate so far

no reason to bet against a winning horse now

[visual pumice]

Traitor guard will just be the blackstone models though

[peak hamlet]

Yee, i highly doubt they will look as good as the fw ones tho :(

[visual pumice]

Can forsee it

[smoky ferry]

yeah and it makes sense narratively

not for sure, they didn't just re-do the black reach ork copters

[cerulean wagon]

thats not bad tho

[peak hamlet]

Like this lad 🥵

[visual pumice]

Not at all

[peak hamlet]

I still have to aquire him at some point

[smoky ferry]

they could easily use cadian base, and just add an upgrade sprue...

[visual pumice]

Just have bought two sets of them already

[peak hamlet]

Problem is at ebay hes like 200€ or some shit atm, not gonna pay that lmfao

[smoky ferry]

like with cadians, GSC etc

[peak hamlet]

Like the forgeworld renegade militia kits :)

[smoky ferry]

not too knowledgeable on FW

so probably?

[peak hamlet]

Also

https://miniset.net/files/set/gw-99550102067-0.jpg

But here are the regular lads (upgrade kit)

https://miniset.net/files/set/gw-99550102051-2.jpg

[tender igloo]

bobo i could send you a link to a place where you could find them if you want

[peak hamlet]

Oh i know a polish recast dude where i can buy them for cheap

Thx anyways

[tender igloo]

cool

[peak hamlet]

(Only problem is hes only selling 1 of their ogryns)

:(

[tender igloo]

the link i have has all the ogryns i think

let me make sure

[peak hamlet]

Oooo 👀

[tender igloo]

looks like it. 5 regular and 3 plague ogryns

[visual pumice]

Blackstone fortress ogryn is nice aswell

[peak hamlet]

Pöst like ples 😳

[peak hamlet]

Yee but i prefer the cloth face cover thingy

[visual pumice]

Fair

It’s weird how cultists are just gone now though

[peak hamlet]

Holy fuck just 11.38$ per ogryn 😳

[tender igloo]

i bought a warboss on bike from them, and the quality was good

[peak hamlet]

This lad?

[tender igloo]

ye

[peak hamlet]

Hell yeah!

Man fw orks are seriously underrated

[peak hamlet]

Based chaos warband

https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/warhammer40k/images/a/a1/Punishers2.jpg/revision/latest/scale-to-width-down/449?cb=20120730085940

https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/warhammer40k/images/4/4e/Dark_Hunters_vs_Punishers.jpg/revision/latest/scale-to-width-down/1000?cb=20151011192325

I really like that color scheme

[final spruce]

Spooky vibes

[peak hamlet]

Skelly marines

Inverted skelly marines

[eternal ledge]

Isn't there a loyalist marine chapter that does the same but white bones on black paint?

[peak hamlet]

Legion of the damned?

[eternal ledge]

Not full Legion of the Damned

I might be thinking of something from gundam

But I could have sworn a group of Loyalist marines did it too

[dim totem]

the fuck is that

[peak hamlet]

Skelly but gundam

[eternal ledge]

https://gundam.fandom.com/wiki/Dokuro_Zaku

[dim totem]

i hate it

i love other zaku though

[eternal ledge]

OG Zaku II

[visual pumice]

I was contemplating getting a gundam model

Zaku

[eternal ledge]

Depending on the kit Zakus are fun builds

[dim totem]

I want a zaku too

Are there any more interesting paintjobs in lore for zakus?

[eternal ledge]

Oh there's tones

Like 50 different variants and all sorts of ace custom paint jobs

High mobility variants, heavy armor types, aquatic, desert, cannon, etc

https://www.mahq.net/mecha/gundam/bawmw-uc.htm

Gundam mechanics lore is about as deep as any other franchise

[dim totem]

Neat

[serene jungle]

is this GW original? I remember that someone made a bike like this way back in the early youtube days that had the gork/mork iconery on the front of the bike, with the underbite on the wheel part and whatnot

Custom job entirely

And someone saying GW just decided to have it for themselves thereafter

[peak hamlet]

Thats a forgeworld mini

[serene jungle]

he used some really thin white (but hard) plastic and just cut out shapes and bits/bobs and spikes and whatnot

[peak hamlet]

Well a recast of one

[serene jungle]

Think it looked like this to begin with

[peak hamlet]

Oi that looks sick already

[serene jungle]

again it had no gork/mork iconery on it when he began

And I remember me in school being like "HOW CAN HE BE THAT GOOD"

And now I see it constantly and it makes me think if he was the reason it became like that

Since he had gripes that the warbikes/traks(?) wasn't orky enough, and so just added the spikey bits and bobs

And even clipped off small tiny bits to emulate the rivets that would be attached in its place

It's such an old old clip

He even used fantasy parts* for some mammoth-skulle eqsue thing as well

But I still remmeber him just cutting out pieces out of the white plastic and making his own gork/mork iconery and it was so dang cool

then he spray painted it and painted the rest in in black and red just like that one up there

[peak hamlet]

Holy shit 😳

[serene jungle]

It was before 2010, been actively looking for it, might not even be up anymore which would be a god damned heartbreak

[marsh grail]

So you know the emperor said how there are no gods and everything with the imperial truth right? Wouldn’t it have been better to actually tell the truth and say that there are gods but they’re evil because I feel like maybe Lorgar would’ve been more understanding if he knew what was going on.

[storm jungle]

Bad writing strikes again 😔

[eternal ledge]

The Emperor was not a good dad

About 90% of the problems in 40k come back to "Big E is a bad dad"

[barren tapir]

But the truth is that there are no gods... Just entities that feel entitled to be called gods

[glad prism]

With all of the status and powers befitting a god, so that's convenient

[frosty cobalt]

they arnt gods, just huge collections of power, fueled of belief, that inspire a following that bases itself around what that power projects itself as.

ya know, like a god would

[marsh grail]

I mean that kind of defines a god.

[rose thorn]

I hope rogue traders get their own killteams rules

[barren tapir]

They already have

[rose thorn]

i mean in the new killteam

[final spruce]

👀

[barren tapir]

Oh

[final spruce]

She was pretty cool with her crew

[barren tapir]

https://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Elucidian_Starstriders

[rose thorn]

yea, sadly they are like impossible to get

[vast frigate]

oh no theyre not.

May i introduce you to recasters from russia

they have proper quality and no issue whatsoever with shipping.

also, once painted; indistinguishable from the plastic product

[frosty cobalt]

Thats the point i was making lmao

[barren tapir]

Warhammer 40,000 rules for Rogue Trader crews, and more.
Taken by an article of GW... It seems that the new book of octarius war will have them

[elfin isle]

Is there any novels on the Octarius conflict scheduled ?

I'm fairly curious to discover the nature of the Waaaagh once faced with the Great Devourer.

Since there's no scrap to loot, are the ork armours and weapons made out of chitin ?

[barren tapir]

As now the orks have entire imperial planets to loot

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2021/11/03/get-an-early-peek-at-the-climax-of-the-octarian-war-in-our-critical-mass-preview/

Take a look

[elfin isle]

I've taken a look. It's almost a shame : chitin cladded orks wielding bone choppas sounded awesome.

[errant mauve]

I recall there being a Night Lords(?) CSM warband that did that

[glad prism]

It sounds like a homebrew chapter or two I have come across, but if it's not very skeletal heavy, Mortifactors might be it(?)

[rose thorn]

UM SORRY WHWT, THERE IS A GENESTEALER CULT ON TERRA?

THAT SEEMS LIKE

A HUGE FUCKING PROBLEM

[barren tapir]

Many actually

[rose thorn]

WHAT

[barren tapir]

MANY!

[rose thorn]

HOW DID THE INQUISITION LET THIS HAPPEN

[barren tapir]

You thought that terra was free of such cults?

[rose thorn]

YES

[barren tapir]

The inquisition try, but it is not easy

[barren tapir]

Well, there are many chaos cults and genestealers ones too

[rose thorn]

HOW IS THIS NOT A TOP PRIORITY???

LIKE, CHAOS CULTS, THEY COULD MAKE THE SHIELD BARRIER CRAP REDUNDANT IF THEY GET ENOIGH FOLLOWERS

It would be like, an entire hive city

But still

[cerulean wagon]

its kept tabz on but like

terra has a pop in the hundreds of billions to trillions

[barren tapir]

It is for the inquisition, and they squash cults daily... But you know, the planet is very big, and there are very many people...
Custodes care only if they cults threat the imperial palace, otherwise they don't care

[rose thorn]

It sounds extremely sloppy to get even a genestealer cult big enough to actually cause problems

Besides missing military equipment and mining equipment

[barren tapir]

Well, they try to get them before they make problems... Like with the 4AE... Custodes heard they wanted to throw a cargo full of explosives at the palace and stormed the lair

[rose thorn]

Also it would probably only require like, 10 grey knights at most to go clear shit out

[barren tapir]

BTW, did you know that Terra was lost to anarchy and only the imperial palace remained in order after the cicatrix maledictum formation?

[odd sparrow]

It turns out that the imperium is wholly dysfunctional and incompetent

Who knew

[rose thorn]

Lmao

[barren tapir]

Colour me surprised

[cerulean wagon]

and how are 10 guys going to find all of the cults

[rose thorn]

Idk GW magic

They are grey knights

[barren tapir]

Asking nicely probably

[odd sparrow]

At that point cults would be reproducing and expanding faster than u could kill them, even if you were none stop massacring bugs 24/7 hjhhuhbju

[barren tapir]

Yes, and they fight demons mostly, not cultists

[cerulean wagon]

put the greyknights

in the bin

[barren tapir]

That is what the arbites, the sororitas, the guard, the enforcers and more are for

[rose thorn]

Also, don’t they clean out an entire section of the Milky Way they claim is Xenos free?

[cerulean wagon]

who?

[rose thorn]

Which I don’t believe for one fucking second

[barren tapir]

What?

That sound something that the deathwatch would do

[rose thorn]

The imperium

[cerulean wagon]

the imperium has xenos denizens so like

no?

[barren tapir]

Ah, nope, the imperium like to say it do stuff but it is just exagerrated

[rose thorn]

Yea probs

[barren tapir]

Like, sure, we totally eliminated the xenos from here... But in truth they couldn't even reach the place lol

[cerulean wagon]

or its been cleared in so much that "the orks on this planet are dead. for now."

[rose thorn]

Also shout out to necrons for being like, the only faction who don’t abuse their artifacts of total destruction

On the daily at least

[cerulean wagon]

uh

sure

[rose thorn]

Lmao

[barren tapir]

BTW, necrons have a deal with the grey knights, unless it has been retconnected

Necrons give them tesseract vaults, and the knights imprison in them demons

[cerulean wagon]

even if they did itd just br a deal with a specific dynasty

[rose thorn]

I love that crap, that necrons are able to negotiate

[barren tapir]

Necrons mostly adhere to a very strict code of honour

[rose thorn]

And it’s not the lame kind either

cough tau cough

[cerulean wagon]

tau have some neat stuff outside of the memes

its just never covered well

cause the guy in chargr of tau writting now is dreadful

and the 40k community are worse

[rose thorn]

Yea

Like, join us or die doesnt even sound evil enough for 40K

I know they make entire species become nothing more then work camp workers

But that’s kinda it?

[cerulean wagon]

its a different kind of evil, instead if like

chaos cartoon villain, tau are like politicians

[barren tapir]

It is subtle evil instead of being direct evil

[rose thorn]

When was 40K about subtlety v

[cerulean wagon]

a fair bit of it actually is

people just suck

[rose thorn]

Lol

[cerulean wagon]

see: cultists being the best part of chaos specifically because its about the slow corruption and downfall of man

[barren tapir]

Raven guard, genestealers cults, tanith first and only, (FUCKING) eldar!

[rose thorn]

Oh yes, my bad I only play Slaanesh so Eldar are nothing more then a punching bag, Kinda forgot about them

[barren tapir]

Hell, even nids can be subtle

[rose thorn]

Also, I know fucking nothing about Raven guard

[barren tapir]

Sneaky space marine

[rose thorn]

OH

[cerulean wagon]

tau give an interesting dynamic to work with since you can have diplomacy, and have a much more background evil

[rose thorn]

THE CROW GUYS?

[barren tapir]

Yes, the raven guys

[rose thorn]

OHHHHHHHHH

[barren tapir]

The chapter which primarch is called just raven raven in latin

[rose thorn]

I love their Helmets

[rose thorn]

Subtle

[cerulean wagon]

tau literaly snuff out tradition, cultures, basically entire civilisations

[barren tapir]

See, you are starting to get the full picture

[cerulean wagon]

but no one discusses it cause people are too busy being upset they arent evil enough or the fact they arent the good guys

[storm jungle]

I'd absolutely recommend reading about the Raven Guard they're great

also a lot of of them tend to be really cool/humble

since Corax is a pretty chill dude

[barren tapir]

They are idealistic freedom fighters

[cerulean wagon]

corax is great bar his name

[rose thorn]

It would be funny to make the stealthy guys into the complete opposite, like noise marines or something he he

[storm jungle]

They are basically what the Night Lords would be as "Good Guys"

Curze literally gets jealous at Corax because of it

[rose thorn]

Lmao

[cerulean wagon]

corax literaly being the symbolic version of "the road to hell is paved with good intentions"

[storm jungle]

^

[rose thorn]

BRB ima shower

[storm jungle]

Yeah pretty much one of the few primarchs that accepted the brutality of the Imperium at the time so it could be fixed once the Great Crusade was wrapped up

that didnt age well

[cerulean wagon]

that and him trying to fix the uhh

side effects of his gene seed

and it fucked his entire chapter

[storm jungle]

Turning into a goth is pretty grimdark ngl

[cerulean wagon]

lol

but man

getting to use tau for only war has let me really enjoy how fucked it is

wanna get people to hesitate? why not have human civilians working int he tau military compound

[barren tapir]

He tried to spawn marines faster iirc, not fixing his geneseed

Too bad that alpharius/omegon heard about that

[barren tapir]

You evil!

[cerulean wagon]

i also had a battlesuit offer them surrender

and the player was caught off guard by it

[barren tapir]

Bonus xp for great roleplay i hope

[cerulean wagon]

they didnt accept and then the bomb they had planted went off

[barren tapir]

I mean, if i could use their weapons, i too would have thought about it a bit

[cerulean wagon]

it they had surrendered they would have been tortured for info on the rest of the parties location

luckily they decided no, and one of the 2 of em survived to get back to the party

[rose thorn]

I wonder how tau would do against emperors children,

Like lore wise

[cerulean wagon]

i actually dont know because the effectiveness of warp stuff on tau isnt clear

but otside of that about as well as they do against SM

[barren tapir]

As now, when they faced chaos, they got slapped pretty hard, although they still managed to survive well enough

[rose thorn]

I know they have a small presence in the warp

[cerulean wagon]

which is to say they give as good as they get

[rose thorn]

So they might not provide as much suffering and pain for Slaanesh

[barren tapir]

Like, they got pounded by the death guard, which wasn't even focusing on them

They got butchered by khorne berkserkers until seven ethereals managed to restore order

[rose thorn]

Didn’t a lot of those tau then turn to khorne?

[barren tapir]

They fell under its influence, but the ehtereal presence lifted it somehow

[cerulean wagon]

nope, current tau head of lore has said they will not write chaos touched tau

[barren tapir]

For tau corrupted there was a water caste one that got possessed

[rose thorn]

Ohhh

It would be fun to make a corrupted tau army

I’d probably make them either khrone or burgle

Nurgle

[frosty cobalt]

Its not tourture its just a lil worm boy having a peek in ur noggin nothing bad i promise

And yea the tau lore basically got butchered between 5-8 i think

No more non warp ftl, no more actually trying to understand anything, the FSE got muddled too cause too many people wrote farsight

It sucks

[frosty cobalt]

It depends, most tau forces are just now “getting used to” CSM, in terms of the sheer WTFness, so if the EC attacked a cadre that hadnt been briefed or seen CSM before, the EC would prolly do a lot of dmg but also take a lot more casualties than if they were attacking some rando imp world

The tau have been making so many “fuck the gue’ron’sha” weapons as of late so it really depend on how ready the cadre would be to fight that amount of warp fuckery

[barren tapir]

True, but i will also add that they tau are definitely more equipped than the normal imperial guard... And that is why they would fare better than an imperial world

[frosty cobalt]

Thats what i mean, the tech deffo gives them an edge vs anything, chaos or not

[odd sparrow]

Ayup

And yee don't matter if ur a fancy CSM or not a railgun will still instagib you hiyhivjut

[frosty cobalt]

Pathfinder 1: these gue’ron’shas are mindbending, the sounds they produce scratch at my ears!
Pathfinder 2:lining up their railrifle yea but they are also wearing purple in a grey city, so watch this drive.

[odd sparrow]

Pathfinders are the true tau chads

[barren tapir]

Yeah, i always chuckle when thinking of the enemies of the SM that see those super colourful, depending on the chapter, things going around

[atomic pelican]

Thinking about how major of a difference the Ynnari actually doing something wouldve been to the plot

Slaanesh dying, or even being injured/incapped, wouldve elevated CWE to one of the strongest factions in setting

Fluffwise

[frosty cobalt]

“Wait you mean eldar can now use the incredible latent psychics without dying to slaanesh?”

Gw:no

[atomic pelican]

Yeah exactlt

[frosty cobalt]

Yea it would have been incredible

[atomic pelican]

Considering I think the only unhindered psychics we can see are Solitaires and Eldrad to some extent

[frosty cobalt]

Id honestly would have had it where a lot of the CWE perish but the remains get fuckin super sayian power ups

[cerulean wagon]

Honestly i wouldn't even want them powered up, just renewed with purpose

take up the flag of biel tan and reclaim the maiden worlds

[atomic pelican]

Chad

Yes

[cerulean wagon]

that would have been a sick story beat

"well the threats over, what now?"

[frosty cobalt]

CONQUEST

[atomic pelican]

Biel Tan doing anything woulve balled

[frosty cobalt]

https://tenor.com/view/the-walking-dead-negan-and-gleen-gif-18300331

Eldar going after chaos after the event

[cerulean wagon]

theres so much you can do with eldar

GW just don't

i wanna run an eldar themed campaign at some point but man

i don't think i can do em justice

[atomic pelican]

Eldrad: solos Abaddon, a keeper of secrets, awakens a fucking god

also gets killed by edgy steve and the deathwatch 5

Even Asurmen and Zar said Eldrad wws reaching power levels not often seen post-fall

[cerulean wagon]

Yup

It was sorta his and ulthwes deal

keep the path of the seer as close to its peak as they can

and use it to keep the eldar alive

[atomic pelican]

I didnt even know he'd fought Abby until recently

Which is kind of funny because he beat him by stabbing, rather than like, crushing him like a can via psychics

Same for the Keeper actually

[cerulean wagon]

lmao

fair enough

You know what else would be cool proud

a cut of sect of CWE that had set up on a maiden world again

and actually had a home and cities

[atomic pelican]

Tbh Biel Tan would be perfect for that

Bring down whats left of the splintered craftworld to one of the many ally exodite worlds of Biel Tan's mini empire

[cerulean wagon]

ye

[vapid tiger]

40k lore hot take

40k would be a lot more interesting and less fashy if they combined the old rt idea of the Imperium being polytheist

with chaos

Just have the chaos gods be part of the Imperial pantheon, with the god-emperor on top and a lot of hard rules when it comes to the worship of chaos (no demon stuff, more taxes for sanctioned priests, etc), and have chaos cults and marines be very literal heretics who believe the god emperor is dead and that the chaos gods should be revered above him, which includes lifting the sanctions and rules placed on chaos god worship

The chaos vs the imperium conflict becomes more interesting, an internal holy war rather than this "evil subversive external threat"

Also lends itself more to the narrative of the Inquisition and the "heretic" spam

Because chaos worshippers would be actual heretics rather than what they technically are in official lore

Which would be heathens

Would also be way darker and more frightening, and more in line with the og fluff without having to retcon all that much

You could probably keep the entire horus heresy for example

[errant mauve]

The take definitely do be hot

[rotund siren]

I love how 40k fans really be out here thinking up entire idea threads on how to make 40k 400% better. Like, damn, it just makes what we have seem more disappointing

[odd sparrow]

yee that would be way more interesting tbh

cus current dynamics with chaos just like. idk

there isn't much going on

[proper helm]

They're either fucked up weirdos inside the Imperium or evil savages with practically no redeeming traits in either case.

To be fair in 40k the word "heresy" basically is just "thought crime"

[primal tide]

As with everything 40k, the chaos stuff is most interesting imo when its shown through the lens of mundane life happening to some working stiff

Outside of that chaos as just a general thing gets a lot less interesting to me

It's why genestealers are so neat, because of how just about anything about them is closely tied to the lives of random downtrodden regular dudes

Compared to grand stories delving into the horror of war vs tyranids (tho there are some genuinely good peices about that as well)

[cursive hull]

NGL, its a big reason why I enjoyed the Arbites book omnibus I read.

Chaos insurgents just being disillusioned and irate workers rioting and attempting to destroy imperial property, with them reaching out to Chaos more as an action of spite than actually doing so to do so, if you know what I mean.

[proper helm]

That's pretty much a core tenet of all of my 40k RPG games

[primal tide]

I think one of the reasons I frequently see people wanting stories about genestealers and chaos cults in Tau society is because its a great window into an aspect that we don't see often enough

[cursive hull]

Would clarify how they handle domestic affairs

Do they have actual police? Maybe even police battlesuits?

Do they use drones to do it?

[proper helm]

Do they get the military's hand-me-downs?

[cursive hull]

Yee

Like

Stuff like that would be neat to know

[odd sparrow]

i imagine soon into tau occupation would be the most interesting period to explore

[atomic pelican]

Water Caste CSI Miami

[odd sparrow]

cus ur sorta like. the full tau infastructure isn't in place but their governance is

so how do they make do

[proper helm]

Weirdly the All Guardsman Party's delve into a Tau world is one of the more in-depth examples

and it's well

it's the AGP

[odd sparrow]

agp?

[proper helm]

All Guardsman Party, it's a Dark Heresy series about a bunch of hapless grunts who get drafted into the inquisition after their regiment got mauled by orks, renegades, more orks, tyranids, and their own leadership

that last part is almost verbatim from the writer

I'm 90% sure it was my entry into the setting

One of the really funny things was them arriving at a border world between the Tau Empire and the Imperium and being genuinely unnerved at how not-miserable everyone was.

[odd sparrow]

lmao

[proper helm]

that creeped them out more than the actual xenos walking about alongside humans

[scenic bolt]

AGP? Time for Spot posting

[proper helm]

Spot my beloved

[primal tide]

I love him

@cerulean wagon cosplay idea 4 u

[cerulean wagon]

thx

[storm jungle]

Tbh the best part is

most common imperial peasantry/cititzens would actualy buy this because of the skull at the top

[cursive hull]

Yeah, pretty much

[final spruce]

Nah it lacks purity seals

[cursive hull]

It has the Inquisitorial Rosette on it

Kinda...

Spooks most of the lower level folk

[barren tapir]

Yes they do, they do all you asked

In fact, there is a story about an investigation, tau investigator and human one, need to find out why some supplies go missing and why some bad stuff happen...

[rose thorn]

Which faction do you think Has the most harems?

My guess is tau and planetary governments, oh yea also Slaanesh

[storm jungle]

Dark Eldar are also up there

[rose thorn]

Ohh yea

Maybe necrontyr

Before the furnaces

[storm jungle]

Some necrons actually do live like old egyptians for the hell of it

so they might also be up there

[frosty cobalt]

tau dont mate unless ordered by higher ups, and only produce 1 child

[storm jungle]

smh you get a robot-egyptian-terminator sugar daddy but hes all necrodermis

[frosty cobalt]

tau do not bang, they are all 1 and done BY LAW

its so funny to me

[rose thorn]

Lmao that was probably literally made because people kept making porn of them

[rose thorn]

I love this

[frosty cobalt]

naw its been a thing since like 4th

the ta'lissera

i might be wrong on the edition but its been a thing for a while

[cursive hull]

Maximizes work efficiency and keeps troops on deployment for the maximum amount of time.

Its almost downright Imperial.

[rose thorn]

wait wtf do chaos space marines and cultist eats?

And where do they get IT

[cursive hull]

ITV?

Also, one presumes the Chaos Space Marines eat people, food they get in raids, produced food in hydroponics, etc.

Cultists eat... Well, depends on what cultists/traitor guard.

[proper helm]

And whatever the CSM don't want

[rose thorn]

Ahhh

I was wondering how would I represent like, a Slaanesh cultist eating horrifically large amounts of food, and cannibalism works

[cursive hull]

Yee

[odd sparrow]

isn't that the vaguely marriage-ish interpersonal bond from bonding knives

i dont even recall it involving sexual relationships

[vast frigate]

Necrodermis can shape to will

Remember inkary

And remember that he makes it work

[storm jungle]

[odd sparrow]

STOP HAREMPOSTING

it's a weird genre

[storm jungle]

Nice

[vast frigate]

Mmmm

Inkary pog

[odd sparrow]

as i understand it historical harems were uh,,, very very different igbvsf

[storm jungle]

PARIAHS IS THE SAME THING

[vast frigate]

Indeed

[storm jungle]

Smh perhaps the real Necrontyr was the harems we made along the way 😔

[vast frigate]

Maybe the real harems was the huge beefcake daddies we recruited along the way

[odd sparrow]

cease

[vast frigate]

Dont you want a cadian to watch exploding planets with?

A steel legionaire to cover your shoulders with his or her coat as you sit in the returning dropship?

A valhallan to share their alcohol with you?

[peak hamlet]

😳

[vast frigate]

Inkary bobo

He proved that necrodermis does not prevent fat penis

[glad prism]

I always forget what comes about when this channel is left to its own devices

[vast frigate]

✅

[barren tapir]

Harem in origin indicated a room, where all wives pretty much lived and did their stuff, then it become synonymous of group of concubines/wives...

It was more a place than a room tbh... One where women ruled

[glad prism]

Mara Branković has entered the chat.

[vast frigate]

yeah but what if man harem

Or muscle girl harem

[frosty cobalt]

Yes and yes actually, most fire caste children are born from bonded pairs if possible. If not the ethereal and commander will choose the pair

[odd sparrow]

Yee I've never read that, I always interpreted it as a platonic ish bond

[frosty cobalt]

It is, and then ur officers tell u to fuck lmao

[odd sparrow]

But that's prolly largely cus no GW writer is capable of even touching on romance or relationships hiuhuugh

[frosty cobalt]

Its kinda fucked up which i love

[storm jungle]

^

romance and girls are icky

still waiting for my Sisters of Silence f/f novella tho

[odd sparrow]

SoS radiate either ace or cranky lesbian energy

In either case they deeply intimidate men

[storm jungle]

Also them being blanks and having the entire attitue of "we gotta stick together" is ❤️

awkward mouth-grill pecks is allowed 👍

[odd sparrow]

I approve

[final spruce]

I like their interactions with the custodes

[frosty cobalt]

The real funny/fucked up thing about it is that the etherals prolly would have made shadowsun and farsight mate if farsight stayed around

But we all know they both want Kais

[odd sparrow]

petition for fire warrior kais to be named chad kais so we can differentiate them from dawn of war kais and farsight kais

it's the tau version of being called john smith

[frosty cobalt]

I just call farsight farsight

If i say kais im talking bout the chad

[odd sparrow]

everyone wants chad kais

[frosty cobalt]

Yuh

I just wanna model a rando firewarrior with a chaos heavy bolter, for the memes

[barren tapir]

AHEM! No, they don't... Wait... Those this mean something to me?

[serene jungle]

So what you are saying is Sisters of Silence is an unintentional anime thrope of the little sister character to the characters of the story who is silent and awkward and only communicates in nods and motions?

[frosty cobalt]

Except to all other non blanks she looks terrifying and non human

Id watch it

[tender igloo]

Read the lore for octarius book 2. I'm actually satisfied

[storm jungle]

Only post I found so far

https://www.reddit.com/r/40kLore/comments/qnxtq5/octarius_2_spoilers/

Sounds a bit meh

[tender igloo]

I liked it simply because the imperium failed. They only barely succeeded in one objective and royally screwed up their 2nd one, which will come back and cause them to fail the 1st objective as well.

[storm jungle]

They recover on the next battlefield no worries

[tender igloo]

Maybe, but they also lost really badly in Charadon as well

Lost a vital forge world and the homworld of house raven was turned into a daemon world by be'lakor

[frosty cobalt]

God i lov that scuffed up pathfinder

No markerlight tho lmao

Also the first time ive seen a riveted design for a tau helmet

[barren tapir]

Am i wrong or that gun looks like jury rigged?

[visual pumice]

Might just be the colour

[barren tapir]

It seems riveted

[visual pumice]

Ah i see what you mean

[barren tapir]

Like they had to repair it with what they could find... Which being inside imperial territory means with scraps

[visual pumice]

Yeah

Would make sense for pathfinders

[frosty cobalt]

Yea ive never seen riveted designs in tau tech, looks intersting

[odd sparrow]

yee that's my assumption if this is like, behind enemy lines kill teams winging it

[rose thorn]

I’m thinking about making my forge world harvest metal from a blown up space hulk by the planet. Would any parts of the imperium be more or less interested in the metal and supplies abs crap from a space hulk?

I know Greg knights might have some interests, for better or for worse

But besides that I’m not too sure

Or maybe they wouldn’t care

[atomic pelican]

Greg Knights

Also yeah theres plenty of reasons to be interested in a space hulk

Just insert Macguffin, since hulks can comprise of so many ships/have so much

[rose thorn]

Lol, yea I’m thinking that they might just have some vault full of nice warp space hulk bullshit they have that they don’t wanna give up

So that’s why they would be attacked

[primal tide]

could be a pretty lucrative business, you could find all kinds of lost tech and artifacts besides all the usable raw materials

[rose thorn]

They could have a really good relationship with the grey knights, just like ‘Heyo we found this Demon sword, you can have it just help us clear out this shit’

My bad

Daemon

[primal tide]

and its all secretly run by genestealers who have assimilated from within the hulks

the Brotherhood of the Junk Heap

the Gaping Maw of Recycling

the Cult of Inexorable Reuse

[smoky mauve]

I know it was a mistake but God. Greg Knights in 40k lmao

[odd tulip]

gunna make a homebrew chapter called Greg Knights now. Lead by chapter master Gregimus Maximus

[cursive hull]

Grand company of Hank

Chapter master Hank

First captain Wank

Second captain Crank

[dry coyote]

A rather gregarious bunch

[odd sparrow]

die

[primal tide]

they are known for their ruthless methods; stories are told of their bloody, gregory campaigns

[proper helm]

So how rampant do you think warlordism is in the Imperium Nihilus? I don't just mean chaos ones, I also mean petty "loyalist" statelets fighting each other and chaos

[cursive hull]

Very

This is mostly my guess, but given similar settings in similar or even lesser circumstances?

Definitely a lot of independent systems with the local Planetary Governors, Admirals, Generals, etc taking command of their planet/system/etc

Especially if a fleet was stationed in orbit.

Starships, the larger types especially, tend to play a role in sci fi where such fracturing occurs.

[proper helm]

Understandably so

[cerulean wagon]

we have a simgle resource book for covering the other side of the rift from uhh

wrath and glory

it the solar system it coverd is definetly sufferin from it

it also has an ecclesiarchal church trying to declare the warp storm ie the mechanicus fault and attempting to oust them

[barren tapir]

Filthy ecclesiarchy!

[cerulean wagon]

tbf they arent wrong

cawl fucked with the pillar

[barren tapir]

Cawl managed to make them work

They could have probably prevented the cicatrix if some armless guy who no one remember his name didn't thrown an entire blackstone fortress against a world

[vast frigate]

Aye

He ran out of time

Trazyn even offered his help

[cerulean wagon]

and he still cocked it up

[cloud kindle]

trazyn got distracted by a mint condition creed

[vapid tiger]

good

[storm jungle]

Old tweet but

https://twitter.com/adembskibowden/status/1412153804443762691

Aaron Dembski-Bowden (@adembskibowden)

@Manfred1943 @ProtoKraken @NerdnamedDan It's Cain. Was Cain ever "canonical"? Besides, that word doesn't exist in Warhammer.

I'm being as honest as I can. I'm not guessing. It's not a random assumption. I'm telling you, directly, what all designers and authors know and publish. It's not M42. We've never said it was.

Twitter · Jul 5, 2021, 8:57 PM

Tbh isnt the only thing in canon what GW says it is? I never understood what that statement of "theres no canon" ever really meant since its obviously was just thrown out there to patch up the mess of a narrative 40k has lol

[odd sparrow]

It just means we don't care what u wanna consider canon we're just publishing books in a loosely defined setting

[storm jungle]

Yeee

[odd sparrow]

So idk why ppl got antsy about cain

It's p confusing

[storm jungle]

Cain is pretty memey

[odd sparrow]

Yes 0/10 not enough grimdark

Cannot be 40k

Goofyness has no place in warhammer
standing conspicuously in front of the entirety of WHFB

[storm jungle]

lmao

yeah its why I just dont like it when people go

"THE AUTHOR SAID THIS ON TWITTER, IT MUST BE TRUE"

[odd sparrow]

yep

It's bad

[cerulean wagon]

yeah