40k-lore-chat

[odd sparrow]

there's a charm to blob

[storm jungle]

and rock

also might as well post the tau chart

[odd sparrow]

i love how sci fi the tau ones are

particularly the longboi merchant ships

[storm jungle]

🙏

[odd sparrow]

also the big tau battleship here is SO fun to use in bfg

tl;dr ur better at dakka than the orks, the orks just have numbers and ramming

apply plasma to problem until it is solved

[cerulean wagon]

weapon loadouts are not locked to specific designs in 40k, its pretty neat tbh

[odd sparrow]

i wish the tabletop battlefleet gothic was still going ngl

[dim totem]

yehh

seems neat

[odd sparrow]

these look cool af

[cerulean wagon]

it is ratty

[odd sparrow]

!! wait really?

is it fw

[cerulean wagon]

ye theres a new edition for GW im pretty sure, its just smaller now

or wait

[odd sparrow]

ik there's the aeronautics game

[cerulean wagon]

im thinking of aeronautica ye

[odd sparrow]

but yeah that's like, lil ships

[storm jungle]

That and as we know planes are boring

[odd sparrow]

I am also tempted to get that tho just cus i adore tau ship designs in general

[dim totem]

yh but aeronautica

[storm jungle]

smh

[dim totem]

i really odnt like IG planes

[odd sparrow]

Yeah me neither

[cerulean wagon]

planes are fine dilara

you strange boomer

[dim totem]

theyre dumpsters with wings

[storm jungle]

LOL

[odd sparrow]

imperial planes in general are just blocks

brick with wings

vrooom i am defying every law of thermodynamics

[dim totem]

which is fine kinda

so are their tanks

[odd sparrow]

one sec

[dim totem]

but they look dull

[cerulean wagon]

look

the IG one is atleast fine

https://www.forgeworld.co.uk/resources/catalog/product/920x950/99590108017_ThunderboltFighter01.jpg

[dim totem]

yh i guess

[cerulean wagon]

and isnt this

https://wh40k.lexicanum.com/mediawiki/images/b/b1/StormTalon01_873x627.jpg

[odd sparrow]

! actually those designs aren't so bad

[dim totem]

it looks like someone tried to build a messerchmit in minecraft

[storm jungle]

god

those are literally

[odd sparrow]

they're at least like

[storm jungle]

just fucking toys

[odd sparrow]

noticeably not less thermodynamic than ork planes

[cerulean wagon]

thats the actual IG fighter design, everyone thinks of the space marines tho for some reason

[odd sparrow]

like it is with regular 40k imp flyers

like

i can see this flying more than i can see those SM designs flying

[cerulean wagon]

IG is thunderbolts, valks and marauders

[odd sparrow]

they have wings

[cerulean wagon]

and i fucking

live for the marauder aesthetic

[odd sparrow]

i like valks purely cus they have halo vibes

[cerulean wagon]

https://www.games-workshop.com/resources/catalog/product/920x950/99121808002_AIImperialMarauderBomber01.jpg

[dim totem]

call me lame but this is still my favourite like "airplane" sci fi design in anything

[storm jungle]

same

its so cool

[odd sparrow]

it is unique af

i can appreciate it

[cerulean wagon]

the valk is based off the Hind

[storm jungle]

the vietnam inspiration helps a lot

[cerulean wagon]

same as the LAAT actually

this lad

https://photo.weaponsystems.net/image/s-carousel/c-640-400/n-hel_gsh_super-hind_p06.jpg/--/img/ws/hel_gsh_super-hind_p06.jpg

[storm jungle]

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/49/41/7d/49417d43a3dfac35df79e8fe552e12bb.jpg

👀

[cerulean wagon]

i know

its hot

[storm jungle]

its

chonky

[odd sparrow]

god

SM flyers are not valid

[dim totem]

those i dont mind actually just bc i love the uh

[storm jungle]

they're TOO THICK

[dim totem]

the main building from dow 1

[odd sparrow]

the ominous hovering dumpsters

[storm jungle]

that sentence lmao

im stealing it

[cursive hull]

I don't mind the Thunderhawk in its intended role

[dim totem]

how would you even fix wh40k planes to make them look cool across the board

[storm jungle]

Your doom approaches

[odd sparrow]

just redesign the big offenders

[cursive hull]

When you take it out of "Bulk transport for super humans" and shit it becomes less effective as a design.

[odd sparrow]

make SM planes actually look like planes

[cerulean wagon]

i hate space marine ships other than the thunderhawk

[odd sparrow]

u can have the grungy brutalist imp aesthetic without making it thicc af

[cerulean wagon]

sicne thunderhawk is designed for space

[storm jungle]

40k designers sometimes cannot do brutalist designs right

[cerulean wagon]

and not air to air engagements

[odd sparrow]

in particular as it relates to SM designs lol

[cursive hull]

That's what I always got, for the Thunderhawk

Its a void craft first.

At least in space, its design isn't necessarily bad.

[storm jungle]

I mean

its just a plane

it kind of works in any area

✈️

[cerulean wagon]

na its specifically a boarding transport for ship to ship engagements

[odd sparrow]

! oh yeah my fav is uh one sec

[cerulean wagon]

it can just double up as a landing craft

buuuut SM lore is bad so ofc they dogfight with it and shoot down eldar somehow

[storm jungle]

lmao

Eldar and Necron are the superior aircraft in general iirc

since its just

ZOOM

Instakill

[cursive hull]

Flying croissant

[storm jungle]

also this very important

🥐

[odd sparrow]

the lil flying drones ❤️

they're so cute

[storm jungle]

AWWW

just add a small "uwu" on them and we're set

[odd sparrow]

i do also have a sweet spot for these bois even if they do look quite weird

[storm jungle]

comin' in to bomb your towns

WITH style

[odd sparrow]

nods

also just like

the like seven seperate tau designs that look like stealth bombers

thinn

[dim totem]

those are fine

the manta ship is still cool

never gonna buy it but

[odd sparrow]

yee i love how the tau ships do look vaguely aerodynamic

like, i can picture how the air is meant to move around them

[dim totem]

looks like the camo was a bitch to paint though

[odd sparrow]

god yeah all the tau camo the pro painters use is beyond me

even if i do like the vibes, esp with like. digital camo

[cursive hull]

I do enjoy that the T'au employ drones as turrets on their larger hover vehicles and flyers.

[odd sparrow]

fits tau really well

same

i'm into IT things being modular makes me wet

[cursive hull]

And, ye, Digital Camo looks legit on T'au, though, yeah, how you manage to paint that on a model I don't know.

It seems a lot easier on a full scale vehicle.

[odd sparrow]

yeah me entiehr

prolly gotta have some amount of experience with freehanding stuff

[smoky mauve]

Apparently it's a lot of layering or you can use a template. I've seen it on gunpla

[smoky mauve]

I mean I'm pretty sure a lot do freehand but a template saves time and energy lol

[proper helm]

lmao it has the Occurrence Border

[frosty cobalt]

These boys i love, and the swept back ion lads on the other plane you posted are also 👌👌

Like u rarely see it in art but the air battles with tau would be Filled with drones

Like 10 drones to each tau plane

Not including the ones the plane already has

[errant mauve]

congestion in tau space must be awful

[frosty cobalt]

Well no its a huge drone network! I imagine it be way better than the mess around terra

[errant mauve]

Terra is all around not a fun place it live in eh

[odd sparrow]

Yee tau warfare in general is just dronetide

[cloud kindle]

sentient drone uprising when

[odd sparrow]

tbh I hope they find a more fun way to approach that

like, maybe go into drone rights into the empire more significantly and the implications of the creation of artificial sentient life

get into star trek-y sci fi concepts, tau are the token sci fi race idk why it's not explored more

[proper helm]

yeah Terra's probably one of the worst places to be poor in

[errant mauve]

The description of Terra in the Vaults of Terra is cool as heck

but I do not envy the folks living there

[neat fiber]

Honest question is there any other necron light/energy colors than green? because i keep seeing art works and models that have blue, orange or even red

[odd sparrow]

I assume the general meme is green but u can choose anything. Its just ~scifi strobelights~

[errant mauve]

I think it can be any colour?

there a bunch of canon blue boys

and the FW dynasty necrons are primarily orange energy stuffs

[crisp heath]

RGB Necrons when

[marsh grail]

Gamer necrons

[rose thorn]

I don’t know why but I really dont like nurgle, he seems right up my valley but I just can’t like him.

[storm jungle]

Hes pretty toxic so its understandable

[crisp heath]

cries in hundreds of dollars worth of nurgle models

[odd sparrow]

I can never get behind the nurgle aesthetics ngl

[storm jungle]

It looks cool but isnt my thing tbh

thats my vibe

[errant mauve]

Old Nurgle Aesthetics

[storm jungle]

a bunch of smelly boyz

[errant mauve]

New stuff

[storm jungle]

get your clean white plates out of 'ere!

[visual pumice]

I don’t like nurgle daemons very much

The mortal units are much more interesting

[cerulean wagon]

thats the same for chaos in general imo

cults n heretic guard are interesting af

[storm jungle]

Its why I legit hope the leaks are true

the ground troops need some love

[rose thorn]

I think i just dont like the more fantasy nature of them, like cyclopes and crap

[final spruce]

Didn't the pox get a new look with the DG release in 9th ?

[errant mauve]

no

[final spruce]

I swear I saw new minis

[errant mauve]

They did in 8th

poxwalkers

if that's what you're talking about.

[rose thorn]

hey was that leak of new cultist minis true?

i saw it like, a year ago i thinkj

[storm jungle]

Not yet that we know of

[final spruce]

Maybe ? The one with the labcoat

[storm jungle]

we do know that the entire black templar leak was true tho

since every unit turned out to be legit

and those two lists were released together so we can only hope

[errant mauve]

I hope we get Ground troops but all of Chaos is rolled into 1 codex with supplements.

[storm jungle]

Yeee same

would make sense

[errant mauve]

GW out here treating CSM/Chaos like they're Space Marine chapters or something

[odd sparrow]

the only daemon range I like is slaanesh cus of how like, Christian satan ish it is? The new keeper of secrets esp

Has the flat featured and everything

[rose thorn]

No it was a chaos leak in general

[odd sparrow]

*goat features

[storm jungle]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/735941248036241489/892067683795861564/bnc.png?width=700&height=587

@rose thorn

[rose thorn]

yea thats it

[storm jungle]

Yee

[errant mauve]

Old Nurgle Chaos Lord

[storm jungle]

Hes on a road trip!

[errant mauve]

New Nurgle Chaos Lord

[rose thorn]

actually i saw at the warhammer store i go to they were advertising a new eldar codex

it was just a sticker slapped on a wraith knight

[odd sparrow]

Ngl the older one is more aesthetic

[cerulean wagon]

but you see mayo

[errant mauve]

ik we kind of left the nurgle discussion

[cerulean wagon]

they need to make weird happy nurgle

so people can try and say hes a good chaos god

[storm jungle]

LOL

[errant mauve]

But the reason why to me Old-gle will always be superior is because it play's up the grimness of rot and decay, rather than "haha funny fat guy"

I miss old Plague Marines

[storm jungle]

"I swear guys having fucking mutant tumors and maggots spill from your rotting skull is only happening because Nurgle loves youuuu" ❤️

[peak hamlet]

Im 99% sure that was a named character

[errant mauve]

It was

But it was also the only Nurgle Lord sculpt I could find a picture of easily

[final spruce]

hey don't forget Isha stays with Nurgle outta love

[storm jungle]

She does tho

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/cf/7c/e4/cf7ce49c8ad0d5442199cc172b47cfcc.png

👀

[final spruce]

I hate it

[storm jungle]

dskjdskj

[errant mauve]

[rose thorn]

lmao

[storm jungle]

owned™️

Its as old as the argument of "chaos gods have positive aspects"

like.... stfu

[errant mauve]

Honestly any fanbase trying to explain why their factions is "totally good guys I swear" is cringe

Embrace the villainy of the setting

[final spruce]

I fully embrace the cherubins

[storm jungle]

Tbh I'd understand that argument if the cause of the factions are just

[final spruce]

Gotta find a use for useless babies

[errant mauve]

Zher gets it

[storm jungle]

[peak hamlet]

Ah my point finally gets supported i see :)

[primal tide]

The couple that cooks up plagues together, stays together

[errant mauve]

Salamanders fans explaining why using radium is not ok but incinerating protesting populations is morally correct:

https://tenor.com/view/morshu-zelda-you-will-buy-from-me-gif-16437133

[storm jungle]

LOL

Goddamnit, I gotta go make a meme now brb

[final spruce]

Well, hard to cook new things when your pot is smashed I guess

[peak hamlet]

But yeah this is still my favourite warhammer fantasy nurgle mini tho:

https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/warhammerfb/images/f/ff/Festus_the_Leechlord_Nurgle_Chaos_Warriors_7th_Edition_miniature.jpg/revision/latest/scale-to-width-down/873?cb=20200423151000

[final spruce]

Damn, very gnarly

Nice

[errant mauve]

Exquisite taste

[peak hamlet]

Look how happy the dude is to recieve nurgles sweet green juice

[errant mauve]

Festus is an absolute based king

[cerulean wagon]

its because salamander fans are hidden dwarf fans and use any excuse to disguise racism as elf hate

[errant mauve]

His WHFB was really funny

[final spruce]

But what about the dwarf fans that ship with the elves ?

[primal tide]

Sumthn sumthn that's going in book

[errant mauve]

"I wish I could understand all diseases, so I could cure them!"
Gets infected with every disease all at once

Festus moment

[primal tide]

The ultimate uno reverse

[errant mauve]

I love festus so much

[proper helm]

The chaos gods in Fantasy are such trolls

[errant mauve]

tfw am dwarf fan

ohno

[cerulean wagon]

smh

[errant mauve]

I don't actually hate elves though

😎

[cerulean wagon]

truely a rare individual

[errant mauve]

They just don't particularly appeal to me

on a more visual level

Unlike Minecraft block men

wide as they are tall as they are thick

[rose thorn]

i also heard that world eaters are supposed to get a new codex

but i honestly

dont believe that for 1 second

[final spruce]

So many rumours

[atomic pelican]

Perhaps next year

the leak which has been right so far said Chaos was getting alot next year

same for CWE

But for now It's just GSC/Custodes December, then Tau in January

[rose thorn]

arent tau getting some killteams stuff soon?

[atomic pelican]

Yeah

The Pathfinder KT

Which.. the leak also was right about FHNF

[rose thorn]

yea

[cerulean wagon]

btw proud

the pathfinder KT is a kit upgrade

[atomic pelican]

Yeah I figured

[cerulean wagon]

like the IG upgrade

[atomic pelican]

I assume they'll still get unique rules for KT since boxset

We shall c

[final spruce]

Enjoy paying more for basic troups I guess

[rose thorn]

and im pretty sure tryanids are getting killteams stuff too

in part 2 of octarius

[atomic pelican]

Tyranids have been getting new little rules added in Octarius yee

like the new synapse rules

[crisp heath]

I’ve heard a lot about a chaos guardsman type legion or croup called the Bloodpact

I have no idea what they are

[final spruce]

Guardsmen that follow Khorne essentially while still keeping the normal structure of Imperial guard and samey doctrines

[crisp heath]

Why are they the most talked about out of the other chaos guardsman

Are they huge or do they just stand out

[final spruce]

Because they are one of the most fleshed out ones and even used to be playable in the earlier editions

[errant mauve]

they're the most standout group of R&N after the fellas on Vraks and the Severian Dominate

[eternal ledge]

I think that's why I like ADB's books. When he writes bad guys they know they are bad guys

[crisp heath]

I heard once that they are more effective and operate more widely than the world eaters

[errant mauve]

That's not a hard thing to be

[frosty cobalt]

Sons of setek is another one

Also these guys, the Stigmartus

[storm jungle]

almost read that as Sigmatus for a second

[frosty cobalt]

Yea ikr

[storm jungle]

[frosty cobalt]

Whats r&n in this case

[errant mauve]

Renegades and Heretics

[cerulean wagon]

severain aren't R&N tbf they are just renegade

[errant mauve]

oh shit

I wrote R&N

not R&H

mb

[errant mauve]

Renegades and Heretics, not Renegades who are also Heretics :^)

[frosty cobalt]

I always go for lost and dammed

Theres the sighted from the bale stars crusade

[errant mauve]

Genestealer cults are cringe because they no longer have the Hover limo

[atomic pelican]

SAD

[errant mauve]

destroyed with facts and logic

[odd sparrow]

no more old patriarch

why even live

[atomic pelican]

I saw one 3d printed online I should buy the limo

[errant mauve]

https://tenor.com/view/laughing-ben-shapiro-lol-lmao-gif-18133775

[atomic pelican]

Also old patriarch was ugly as fuck

Literally just a fat little man

[errant mauve]

Me after telling my 40k opponent there is no way that facts and logic could allow Space "Marines" (they are in space not water)to exist

[atomic pelican]

He looked like grimace

[errant mauve]

the patriarch gazes disapprovingly at you

[atomic pelican]

His claws are made of rubber

Tf is he gonna do, roll over to me? Meanwhile the Chad new Patriarch has been making gainz on his workout pipe

[primal tide]

Thanos' creepy uncle

[errant mauve]

GW fears the old genestealer patriarch User

you hold immense power if you use that model

[frosty cobalt]

Sigmarxism is eating itself, as per the monthly schedule

[atomic pelican]

Im waiting on the liberal purge

Reading comprehension on sigmarx dropped 500% when big youtubers covered it

[primal tide]

Oh no

I haven't been there in a while

Is it a shitpile now?

😩

[atomic pelican]

Its not that bad, Im just being melodramatic

Its mostly just hobby posting now, which is nice and good but I just feel theres already a jillion hobby subs

[primal tide]

There really are

[atomic pelican]

Or the average softbrain coming to ask everyone, "Can I make my space marines based on Africans? Theyre named the ungs bungas and are always evil and eat babies. Is this problematic?"

Like. Why

[frosty cobalt]

Yea a lot of the good fink pieces are from a while ago, and most memes are “arguing” over which faction is most woke

[atomic pelican]

Yee

I liked the fink pieces

They were fun

[primal tide]

I want to die

Same poster as that dude who wanted pygmies here

[errant mauve]

Sigmarxism when reading theory

Sigmarxism when Ogre

[frosty cobalt]

Yea basically

Big_bolters top 5 are always good

[atomic pelican]

Ive seen ppl get downvoted for posting/referencing actual Lenin, which shows me reading comp has downgraded to socdem levels

The self defeating pain of popularity

Suffering from success

[errant mauve]

On a side note

[crisp heath]

So since most csm legions keep getting fucking destroyed is there any one of them that actually does significant and effective shit

[odd sparrow]

leftists principle hobby is cannibalising their own movement™️

[atomic pelican]

Yeah but sigmarx doesnt even have leftists anymore. Legit mostly socdems I'd bet now

[errant mauve]

I've unironically had someone for my Heresy AU ask him they could make a "tribal savages" Legion and when I asked them to specify they just effectively listed every single non-white group of people

[atomic pelican]

Anarchists and else are fine

[atomic pelican]

OOOOOFF

[odd sparrow]

oh is this a subreddit

yikes

[atomic pelican]

Well, it does, just uses to there was a majority it seemed

[frosty cobalt]

Its the “leftist” wargaming subreddit

Usually p good, lately been kinda meh

[odd sparrow]

saddening

[atomic pelican]

I liked it when it was niche

And u had crackheaded finkpieces describing the tau and On Authority

That was so fun

Any fun, creative way of interacting with both my hobby and theory is neat. Better than the drog of reading it(esp the older stuff), but my pain is neccesary

[primal tide]

The quality of a subreddit very closely reflects it's size

[atomic pelican]

P much

[cerulean wagon]

ye sigmarx is... weird now

[errant mauve]

They were confused as to why calling all Africans "backwards tribals" could be racist

[atomic pelican]

Big brained

[frosty cobalt]

A singular yike from me

I gotta write up my tau lore

Make sure it isnt terrible lmao

[atomic pelican]

Legend

[final spruce]

Why why I like IG, writing lore is easy

[frosty cobalt]

Oh yea @errant mauve i need pointing to any big ol refs of the obliterator virus, trying to write a tau horror story 🙂

[errant mauve]

Lexi gives a real good overview of it

[frosty cobalt]

Awesome

Good enough for me

[errant mauve]

https://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Obliterator_Virus

[atomic pelican]

Oblooterated

[frosty cobalt]

Yea been thinkin right, tau dont get corrupted easily

Just by nature of their souls and thought process

[errant mauve]

Overall Oblits tend to be less intelligent(?) than a SM or sometimes an 'umie

in that they singularly focus on well

obliteration

https://tenor.com/view/exodia-yu-gi-oh-anime-summon-gif-17959838

[frosty cobalt]

Yea so imagine, some poor mutated tau stuck inside his suit, suffering the worst case of battlesuit neurosis ever

The suit and the ai is all obliterated, but whats left of the tau inside just has to watch

[primal tide]

I dig it

Obliterator stuff is cool

[marsh grail]

Just admit it orks are the good guys.

[marsh grail]

Please try the newest flavor of Mountain Dew. I swear it’s good.

[cursive hull]

Reading that in a nurgle voice makes it even better

[errant mauve]

https://tenor.com/view/leonardo-dicaprio-absolutely-fucking-not-gif-4496112

[cloud kindle]

wouldnt say good

just you know what your getting upfront when dealing with orkz

which is usually dakka or an axe to the face

[cursive hull]

Or enslavement and mistreatment till you die of starvation, or an Ork decides to eat you.

So, you know.

[barren tapir]

Carrotboi?

[buoyant crypt]

Orks are actually the MC race

[odd sparrow]

He has ascended to carrot

[barren tapir]

Oh boi

[elfin isle]

As far as I know, they don't sterilise the planet, they don't mess with Chaos and they are the oldest race (I don't cont the eldars since they're on the road to extinction). All of the other races did or have the potential to destroy or sterilise worlds. They seem to just live their life, the way they were made, without needing to do irreversible damage to the universe. To me, they kind are the good gu

[cerulean wagon]

wat

[primal tide]

Please be satire please be satire

[elfin isle]

Nope.

The orks pass and kill civilisations, not the worlds themselves.

The Eldars killed much more people with the birth of Slaanesh

And created the Eye of Terror

[primal tide]

They show such reverence to big round chunks of rock, how altruistic

[cerulean wagon]

they have also destroyed planets before

[primal tide]

Also that lul

[elfin isle]

?

[primal tide]

!

[cerulean wagon]

!>

[elfin isle]

You mean blown up or just killed the civilisation that lived there

[cerulean wagon]

blown up

also "they are good guys they only commit genocide" is the greatest take i have heard this week

[primal tide]

Lmao

Bippity boo your argument is poo

[elfin isle]

I didn't knew that, I though they just landed on it with space hulks and rocks, killed, pillaged and prepared to do the same thing elsewhere

[barren tapir]

Shiz, i don't have all my fav gifs

[elfin isle]

All the major races in 40 k commit genocide

[final spruce]

I suppose slavery isnt evil

[primal tide]

Orkz are the gud guys cuz they only kill and keep people as cattle, they don't destroy worlds after total loss of life has been accomplished

Ultra galaxy brain

[cerulean wagon]

yes, and all of them are evil as well

[errant mauve]

For folks who don't think Orks are sadistic, throwback to the time Ghazgkhull got Grotsnik to turn humans into conscious servitors for the luls :^)

[elfin isle]

So there's no good guys ?

[cerulean wagon]

none

[final spruce]

Taus and Asuryanni are the least evil if you wanted a greyer view

Only some subfactions however

[cerulean wagon]

thered a reason orks are described as expressing sadistic glee

[barren tapir]

Humans are good guys... Well, the dead ones at least... Cry for the interex, the diasporex and all the ex

[cerulean wagon]

even those we will never know if they were good

since, you know, ded

[primal tide]

https://tenor.com/view/we-are-learning-rapidly-fast-learner-knowledgeable-smart-quick-learner-gif-12556864

[elfin isle]

The Asuryanni don't hesitate to sacrifice races to further their interests

[barren tapir]

They were better than the imperium, and definitely better than the olamic quietude at least

[errant mauve]

40k fans don't morally identify with war criminals for 3 seconds challenge (impossible)

[cerulean wagon]

better than the imperium isnt a hogh bar haha

[final spruce]

Definitly but apart from that one craftworlds that hates humand, they tend to just chill by themselves until a prophecy or chaos pops up

They dont go around conquering, at best only defending exodite and Crone worlds

[elfin isle]

If they could, they would

[primal tide]

It's not a competition bro, everyone's evil

[barren tapir]

Exactly like all other races would do tbh

[final spruce]

Hell remember that time where exodites allowed humans to live alongside them (alto eldars were treated as god) and that was only stopped because of the wholesome primarch ?

[elfin isle]

Is the Chaos and the Warp evil incarnate ?

[final spruce]

They are yeah

[cerulean wagon]

Remember when ulthwan saved mordia

and biel tan saved tallarn

would be nice seeing that explored

[final spruce]

Biel Tan being the Xenophobic ones at that lmao

[cerulean wagon]

they are xenophobic, but the destruction of chaos comes before all else

which honestly, i think is neat

[peak hamlet]

Bruh the orks literally enslave ppl and keep them as livestock sometimes, that only adds up to the numbers of warcrimes they commit "for fun"

[errant mauve]

The Immaterium is the mirror dimension to our own Materium, and reflects the emotions and souls of all sentient beings

The chaos gods control domains within the warp, and tend to embody traditionally deontologically evil values and emotions.

In Fantasy/AoS there's a bit more nuance but in 40k they're entirely monomaniacal to said evil qualities

[storm jungle]

God this chat

kill me

also Klown Ork moment

[primal tide]

Le funny meme green boiz

[storm jungle]

Im so tired of "uwu eldar would kill billions to save their kind"

Yeah they do that like twice in lore, please staph

[primal tide]

As if any faction wouldn't

The only difference is some reliably can, and do, while others can't, but would

[errant mauve]

uwu eldar would kill billions to save their kind

[storm jungle]

aaa

[marsh grail]

Not inherently. It’s just how you obtain and treat them that can be.

Indentured servants were a thing

[cerulean wagon]

[storm jungle]

T...The fuck

[errant mauve]

[primal tide]

"Slavery is not inherently evil, if you treat them nicely and obtain them legally"
So do you actually think this or are you just an idiot that likes to argue?

[frosty cobalt]

https://tenor.com/view/community-donald-glover-pizza-shocked-disaster-gif-4891734

What the fuck is happening in here

[storm jungle]

Some guy said orks were the good guys

so take it from there

[frosty cobalt]

Oh we are measuring good and evil again ok

[storm jungle]

Starts here

tho its a really short conversation, funny as hell tho

give it a read 👍

[frosty cobalt]

Everyones evil, orks are just cartoon evil

As the biggest tau stan here, they baf

Bad*

[errant mauve]

average 40k morality discussion

[frosty cobalt]

Its like

We dont need to be deciding between midnight blue and vantablack

[storm jungle]

Ngl the "they're no good guys?" realisation breaks my heart

[frosty cobalt]

They are all black shades

[frosty cobalt]

Ya hate to see it

[plucky moth]

I mean there are good factions in 40k I'm sure

they'd just be dead

[frosty cobalt]

TRUE LLOL

[storm jungle]

the Imperium "corrected" them

[errant mauve]

Deontologists and the Ethical Moralists when someone brings up an unrealistic fringe case that perfectly happens to be antithetical to their values

https://tenor.com/view/walter-white-falling-fast-gif-18043850

[storm jungle]

to quote that one Hammer and Bolter episode's Imperial PA system

THERE SHALL BE NO THINKING

[frosty cobalt]

Logic is heresy

[storm jungle]

^

[errant mauve]

[storm jungle]

like, if that isnt evil i dont know what is

literally "dont think and be a cog in the machine"

[frosty cobalt]

Yea

Like

[storm jungle]

ITS NOT THAT SUBTLE GUYS

[plucky moth]

Kant was a nerd and should've stayed in his locker

[frosty cobalt]

Its all shades of black

And we dont need to measure them

[errant mauve]

Kant

more like

Stupid

[primal tide]

Sorry I'm still not over this part
Just what

[errant mauve]

because that's what he is

[peak hamlet]

Dude literally said "slavery =/= bad" but ok

[frosty cobalt]

Except in comp ratings

[errant mauve]

This is just me malding

[frosty cobalt]

Yea that made me spit my water lmso

[primal tide]

"Slavery is fine" never change warhammer community

[storm jungle]

The bee squadron is deployed for this engagement

[plucky moth]

yeah to clarify, all violations of humans rights is bad.

[primal tide]

wtf is with you and bees

[frosty cobalt]

My slaves have golden chains what are yall on about

[storm jungle]

They just look really cute as an emote im sorry, look at the tiny wings

[cerulean wagon]

my fav is still "its fine because orks only genocide living things but they leave the planets alone"

[primal tide]

So fucking dumb lol

[frosty cobalt]

Id say infesting the planet with spores and then ripping it to shreds or turning it mobile us destroying it lmao

[primal tide]

"We kill da peeple but leav da rokks"

[storm jungle]

ACTUALLY YEAH

THEY ARENT EVEN ECHO FRIENDLY

I FORGOT LMAO

[odd sparrow]

Bees are cute af in any case

And yeah like

[cerulean wagon]

as i said at the time

orks destroy planets

[odd sparrow]

The sheer amount of pollution orks release

[storm jungle]

yeah i read "destroy" as in devastate by war

[odd sparrow]

Entire atmosphere blackened etc

[storm jungle]

i forgot they actually infest a planet forever

[cerulean wagon]

very rarely are orks every entirely cleansed

[frosty cobalt]

Do they process carbon cause fungi?

[errant mauve]

The only good guys in 40k are the plunger servitors used to clean Planetary Governor Amadeus CLXII's toilets

doing their duty

[primal tide]

Do you guys think bad takes in the lore channel come in groups of 3? I feel like we're due for one last good one by the end of the day

[cerulean wagon]

[storm jungle]

jokes aside thats kinda the routine yeah

[cerulean wagon]

a brave soul indeed

[storm jungle]

it usually goes for a long quiet session before another person like this pops up

[cerulean wagon]

do i do the bad take to save it being something more cursed?

[peak hamlet]

I would argue that there are prolly good guys in 40k but those werent discovered by any major faction yet

[cerulean wagon]

there are good people in 40k, there is no good faction

[peak hamlet]

Or well that there were good guys but they got fucked over by random major faction

[storm jungle]

The Space Toads did it

[cerulean wagon]

which honestly imo is so much more interesting, cause hearing about the individuals is great

[errant mauve]

I agree with Bobo's take

If there's good guys in 40k they're either too insignificant to matter or already gotted one of the bigger factions.

[frosty cobalt]

Srry for the TG screenshot, but that just shows a planet with more guard than atoms in the universe, and theres still orks

[cerulean wagon]

na its fine

its a calssic

[storm jungle]

Yeee the big narrative is good elements within some factions exist but the status of the galaxy doesnt allow for any good acts to go smoothly

[cerulean wagon]

always love seein it

[frosty cobalt]

Yea figuredp

[errant mauve]

Truly another day to be blessed by silly GW numbers

[plucky moth]

they'd release a ton of methane anyway

[errant mauve]

[frosty cobalt]

True shit yea

[cerulean wagon]

iirc its a bug from a game they have since patched out

[frosty cobalt]

Orks and halo grunts coexist

[cerulean wagon]

[storm jungle]

Those fuckers

[frosty cobalt]

Shit srry didnt mean to reply twice

[primal tide]

leans towards microphone
"Ahem"
"Servitors are based"

[marsh grail]

Listen forcefully enslaving someone is wrong. Legal does not necessarily mean right. But slaves such as prison labor or indentured servants isn’t wrong so long as you don’t mistreat them.

[frosty cobalt]

Oh the game doesnt exist anymore

Gw killed it

[plucky moth]

prison labour is pretty fucking bad tbh

[cerulean wagon]

based on what

[peak hamlet]

Yes they are wrong whats wrong with you lmfao

[cerulean wagon]

must be from cali

[primal tide]

Yeah lol what, prison labor is just slavery

[peak hamlet]

Also you cant force somebody to work for you without applying force

[frosty cobalt]

Fuck you dont group me with this fuck

[primal tide]

Scenic grass and pebbles

[cerulean wagon]

i'm so sorry lmao

[frosty cobalt]

Yea this

[primal tide]

Okay, still not sure if you're an argumentative idiot or something worse

[marsh grail]

If someone wants to sign themselves to a set number of years as a servant why shouldn’t they be able to? It was an effective means of getting sponsored to go to another country then after you’re done you are free.

[storm jungle]

Feudalism Moment™️

[cerulean wagon]

every time that glove is posted i always hear just

[primal tide]

Okay, leaning on the "worse" side of the scale now

[cerulean wagon]

"The glooove" like its the claw from toy story

i'm a broken man

[storm jungle]

same

[primal tide]

https://tenor.com/view/white-claw-the-claw-toy-story-clawwww-gif-14432446

[cerulean wagon]

lmao

[peak hamlet]

That aint slavery tho

[errant mauve]

Ok but back on the original topic

It's not like the Orks practice indentured servitude either

[marsh grail]

Well isn’t prison labor slavery?

[errant mauve]

[peak hamlet]

"Slavery and enslavement are both the state and the condition of being a slave, who is someone forbidden to quit their service for another person (an enslaver) who treats that slave as their property."

[primal tide]

Yes, and it's bad too you dumdum

Thanks for coming to my Ted talk

[frosty cobalt]

All of this. Its the freedom to terminate employment

[marsh grail]

In indentured servitude you sign yourself away for a set number of years. You can’t quit before that’s up.

[errant mauve]

Prison labor is enabled in the United States by the 13th amendment of the U.S. Constitution which prohibits slavery “except as a punishment for crime.”

[marsh grail]

See so it’s not inherently evil then

[frosty cobalt]

facepalm

[plucky moth]

I mean, it's still inherently evil

[errant mauve]

law says it's allowed
therefore not evil

[peak hamlet]

"If someone wants to sign themselves to a set number of years as a servant why shouldn’t they be able to?" doesnt sound like prison labor slavery tho

[primal tide]

Patrick's driving license argument moment

[frosty cobalt]

Stop im gonna bust a rib

[errant mauve]

but back on orks

Still failing to see why they're "good guys"

[plucky moth]

well they're green

and green=good

[errant mauve]

hmm

[frosty cobalt]

Based

[errant mauve]

you make a compelling argument

[storm jungle]

this entire chat is just this emote:

[errant mauve]

I cannot deny this

[storm jungle]

[errant mauve]

[plucky moth]

green good
red bad

I'm colourblind though so don't trust me

[storm jungle]

Orks got pyrovision goggles

obviously

https://tenor.com/view/pyro-tf2-pyrovision-team-fortress-gif-20939973

they dont know they're killing people!

[frosty cobalt]

Ppppfft

[peak hamlet]

Time to paint myself green 😎

[storm jungle]

THIS I would accept, but like bro they literally kill you because its funny

[primal tide]

Clearly this makes orks the good guys

[plucky moth]

at best in 40k you get tragic villains

[cerulean wagon]

because for some reason people think that orks aren't aware they are doing evil, or the fact they are designed to do it means they hold zero accountability for their actions. Its a real weird set of arguments that do not hold up at all

[errant mauve]

but clearly

[your least favourite faction] are the good guys and [your favourite faction] are the ultimate evil meant to be vanquished

[plucky moth]

like Orks are evil af but on the other hand they're literally engineered to be as such so it's like, kinda unfortunate but also they're totally responsible for what they do

[odd sparrow]

Correct

I fuck plants

[primal tide]

Ork fans have a few screws loose just like Ork tech

[plucky moth]

like just because you didn't cause a problem doesn't mean a problem ain't your responsibility

[errant mauve]

Orks are funny

you can be evil and funny

[odd sparrow]

And yeah like, orks are just living fuck-things-uppers

[plucky moth]

however yes, Orks are hilarious and I love their aesthetic

[errant mauve]

Like Skeletor 💀

[odd sparrow]

They're basically a sentient dirty bomb lol

[cerulean wagon]

also orks are fully aware of what they do, have the capacity to change, but find it too much fun so they dont

[odd sparrow]

Idk do they tho

[cerulean wagon]

yes

[storm jungle]

Example: https://youtu.be/guZjbzE4Vvc?t=19

[frosty cobalt]

This, and the fact that its pulling the trigger makes it bad

[marsh grail]

There was mr the beast.

[primal tide]

NO you put your transformers references away

[storm jungle]

[odd sparrow]

They're meant to be genetically hardwired to be cunts, there is variation on the level of bastardry but idk

[storm jungle]

Cant believe Jazz died to hearing a dad joke

[primal tide]

Where's the rlm emotes lmao

Hahahaha

[cerulean wagon]

there have been ork diplomats before ratty

[odd sparrow]

Blood axes or whatever they're called feel like they're the best orks are gon get

[marsh grail]

I need to get around to making a the beast teef giveaway mr beast clickbait thumbnail.

[cerulean wagon]

like fully reasonable ones

[odd sparrow]

Well yeah but I can't see them being a good person still

[frosty cobalt]

That chap wasnt nice tho, he was like “yall gonna die, srry”

But more prickish

[odd sparrow]

Even if they're more savvy with speech and not being a murderhobo

[frosty cobalt]

Orks are just big bullies, and bullies can be smooth talkers and smart

Doesnt mean they aint bullies

[cerulean wagon]

they are good as far as orks are concerned

doesn't mean they are gonna be nice to other races (even if they could the races wouldnt accept it)

[errant mauve]

GIVIN' AWAY A BIG BUNCH O' 'UMIE TEEF TO DA LAST BOY TO NOT YELL WAAAAAGH [DAY 2]

[frosty cobalt]

Thats just measuring shades of black, pointless

[cerulean wagon]

in which case this entire argument is pointless cause im not saying they are good, im saying they are capable of change

doesnt mean we are suddenly gonna have comic book hero orks

just means orks will be more reasonable

[plucky moth]

well not with that attitude smh

[frosty cobalt]

Maybe towards being slightly less murdery, but still we have seen ork generals understand a battlefield honor, but they still have fun killing

All they are is war and war is bad

[cerulean wagon]

well ye, its tradition at this point for them

again, im not saying they are good

[frosty cobalt]

Its nature

Literally

[cerulean wagon]

i'm just saying "they dont know what they are doing/its nature so you cant blame them" is a terrible excuse

[final spruce]

you do realise I was ironic right ?

[odd sparrow]

yeah that is fair

like, orks are cruel

[errant mauve]

Orks are Hobbes fans confirmed

[odd sparrow]

they are shitty people

[barren tapir]

Yo, what did i missed?

[frosty cobalt]

Im not excusing them im saying its a good reason lmao

[barren tapir]

Still talking about sentient fungus?

[odd sparrow]

indeed

inb4 'well ACTUALLY they're not fungus-'

[frosty cobalt]

Orks are literally sundowner

[barren tapir]

AH! Lies

They are fungus, green gungus

[cerulean wagon]

sundowner makes the choice to be that way tho

[frosty cobalt]

Kids are cruel, and im very in touch with my inner child

[cerulean wagon]

👀

[errant mauve]

"The life of an average ork is solitary, poor, nasty, brutish, and short"

• Ordo Xenos Inquistor Thomas Hobbes

[barren tapir]

Ok, that is a typo, but it is good enough

[primal tide]

Someone here thinks slavery isn't inherently bad

[marsh grail]

Oh man I was just thinking that.

[odd sparrow]

based

[barren tapir]

Lol

[frosty cobalt]

Id like for you not to talk to me thx

[errant mauve]

Now that I think about, Sundowner basically uses two Choppas

[plucky moth]

lmao

[errant mauve]

Sundownork

[frosty cobalt]

Ur right

[errant mauve]

Raidork

Mork-soon

[barren tapir]

Anyone know if discord save somewhere in the pc the list of fav gifs?

I lost mine, and now cannot use the right one for reactions

[cerulean wagon]

dont think so

[storm jungle]

Open a private group and make a channel to dump your favorite gifs there

[final spruce]

it does not

[errant mauve]

fraid not

[storm jungle]

discord fucks up my stash a lot too and thats how i do it

[cerulean wagon]

think its all cached

[barren tapir]

FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF me

[storm jungle]

Yeaaaaah

ive been there lmao

just do what I said, its a lot easier

[errant mauve]

Discord randomly deleted all your gifs eh

[storm jungle]

never trust discord to save your gifs in the tab

[errant mauve]

I feel ya 🫂

[frosty cobalt]

Ffffff

[barren tapir]

Well, not randomly i think... I changed pc, so this is a new installment

[errant mauve]

oh

I see

yeah if you have your old PC they're all still on there

[frosty cobalt]

Im still thinkin bout traitor guard, and how in some cases someone recruited wouldnt be able to tell the diff between TG and IG

[errant mauve]

I have my gifs split between my laptop and phone and it's annoying

[barren tapir]

I was thinking they were linked to the account, since you know, discord stuff, but eh... Time to go digging

[errant mauve]

you good Zher

[odd sparrow]

no

[barren tapir]

Ye

Zher is good

[errant mauve]

bet

I also have no diea

why discord

doesn't save by account

[barren tapir]

Discord saved all chats in the account so... Yeah, weird discord is weird

Oh, and now i have the antivirus that want to restart my pc... FFS i might need to light the incense too

[errant mauve]

🇫

[atomic pelican]

I wish it saved cross platform

I lose my gifs so often

One time my desktop discord just.. logged out and deleted all my gifs

[storm jungle]

Yeah this

again just use a gif-channel in your private server, pretty much the best way to not lose em

[cerulean wagon]

i dont save any gifs

[barren tapir]

I don't have a private server

[errant mauve]

make one

[storm jungle]

Just make one

ye

Making a dump-server in discord is really useful for most stuff you can get up to so i absolutely recommend it

[barren tapir]

Doesn't it require to be paid?

[errant mauve]

no

[barren tapir]

(╯°□°）╯︵ ┻━┻

I can still use these as reactions

┬─┬ ノ( ゜-゜ノ)

(╯°□°）╯︵ ┻━┻

[errant mauve]

Return to tradition

(ง︡'-'︠)ง

[peak hamlet]

:(

[errant mauve]

:)

[barren tapir]

Time to see if this work

[odd sparrow]

yee

u can keep channels specifically for like, v specific things

i have a big one full of uni courses with like

+WORK UP TO DATE 12/10/2021
-ASSIGNMENT DUE 30/12/2021

so i can keep track of them

[storm jungle]

Yeee me too its great

also oof

[dry coyote]

I'm running a Wrath and Glory campaign centered around orks. Anyone have Orkish shenanigans I can throw at players?

[final spruce]

So real questions, what is the party composition

Because I imagine the point is to make an interesting fight but not an unwinnable one

[cerulean wagon]

theres only 1 ork class per tier atm so probably all boys/kommanoz/knobz

basically nothin but fightin

[barren tapir]

Or sneaky stabbin

I mean, kommando is all about being sneaky

[errant mauve]

could be cool running a legit stealthy ork encounter

the party expects loud krumpin

but instead

silent choppin

[cursive hull]

https://tenor.com/view/butterfly-knife-tricks-gif-15115868

Inb4 Kommando nob stabs you with his choppa

[errant mauve]

Butterflork Choppa

[cursive hull]

Wish I knew where my Balisong was. Used to be able to do the Ren-roll-over like that all the time.

[vast frigate]

i want someone to make an ork with a butterfly choppa noiw

a folde-choppa me boyz

[crisp heath]

lmao it’s real

[cursive hull]

I don't understand this

It appeals to literally no one.

[barren tapir]

It appeal to me tbh

[cursive hull]

But, why?

[barren tapir]

Big concealable blade

[karmic gulch]

Has trazyn actually like just straight bought a item in his collection?

[crisp heath]

I guess if someone wants to fold one up and store it on their backpack. It’s an overpriced meme as is most Gerber products.

A Tramoninta 24” machete will do yard work with much greater ease at $20 than what that toy can do at $150

Only downside is if you’re chopping wood with it, it’ll rattle your hand mighty good

[vast frigate]

Yeah

He sometimes disguises himself and buys things

[eternal ledge]

He traded with Fabius Bial for the Fulgrim cloan

[karmic gulch]

That was a trade of gene seed for a perfect clone of fulgrim before chaos corruption

[primal tide]

Buying something is just making a trade with extra steps anyway

[ashen lake]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3WN89bSKm-g

[marsh grail]

How long is that? I have a six inch folding knife but am looking for bigger.

[barren tapir]

No idea

[dry coyote]

Ork snipers!

[errant mauve]

[dry coyote]

Funnily enough, the BBEG they're fighting is a blind ork who's convinced everyone he can see by bolting a plate with eyes painted on it, over his eyes

He has perfect accuracy, even with Shoota's

[errant mauve]

Holy shit

that's brilliant

[karmic gulch]

So are kriegers sorta like the clones from star wars?

Where they're all just the same dude

[storm jungle]

less Same Dude™️ more just mass produced

[errant mauve]

They're mass birthed from Vitae Wombs.

[odd sparrow]

yee idk if there's any direct info on how it's meant to work but nothing it stated abt them being derived from a single genetic template or whatever

we just know they're artificially pumped out

[frosty cobalt]

I like the idea that they just snatch it from surviving soldiers of good valor/actions and physical template

The genes that it

[storm jungle]

Krieg Sperm™️

[visual pumice]

[cursive hull]

Well

Are we still unawares as to what a Vitae womb actually is?

I'm sure its mostly a supplement to the main method, aka, the good ol fashion method.

Because the Imperium be like that.

[storm jungle]

Yeah we dont know much yet

since its another classic 40k lore excerpt that is like 3 sentences long

[cursive hull]

In fairness.

I think that may be a good thing, sometimes.

[rose thorn]

So how did Horus persuade fulgrim to join Slaanesh?

[final spruce]

He didn't need to, Fulgrim was already being corrupted by his sword

[storm jungle]

Yeah Ful's fall is one of the more quicker ones

[rose thorn]

They seemed one of the most loyal chapters too,

[storm jungle]

Yeah its basically another case of "Hey we made and designed this legion to literally fall to Chaos, might as well go for it"

especially since their entire schtick is "EVERYTHING WE GOTTA DO MUST BE PERFECT!"

[rose thorn]

True, and the Slaanesh sword encouraged that more

[storm jungle]

Pretty much

aside from that theres not that much of complexity

[rose thorn]

So he probably first thought the emperor was the key to it

[cursive hull]

Yeah... The Emperor's Children were kinda destined to fall.

[rose thorn]

Then was like

‘Oh wait, Slaanesh

[storm jungle]

Its a bit tricky since they also made Fulgrim's character a bit wonky

with some cases of the demon sword making him do half the stuff he does

[rose thorn]

Another factor could be his ego and how the other primarchs hated him

[storm jungle]

Kind of

its less hate and more just "literally never met half of them"

[rose thorn]

Ah

[storm jungle]

Im pretty sure the only people he has hostile relations with is Khan and maybe Perturabo? Though he himself says he respects him even if by the time they meet hes gone full slaanesh

[rose thorn]

Oh— wait where the duck did he get that sword ?? Wasn’t it a gift from the emperor or something

[storm jungle]

It was from an alien planet called Laer

[rose thorn]

His home planet

Ah

[storm jungle]

Ah yeah his home planet is Chemos its different

basically he was a bit away from the Crusade with his legion and they stumbled on Laer

they said they'll do a speedrun and conquer the planet etc

the sword Fulgrim finds is after he visits the planet personally and finds it on a rundown temple

[rose thorn]

And, I know most of the primarchs didn’t know what chaos was

But they just let hun fuckinf keep it

[storm jungle]

YEP like i said its lazy writing

[rose thorn]

Damn, I love the emperors children designs, but damn

I mean at least it makes sense

I hope they get a lore do over

Like uhh

I know alpha got a do over

But

[storm jungle]

Yeah they're sadly one of the few chaos legions that got shattered and became a footnote in lore

Fabius is like their only prominent character and he doesnt even care about his legion lmao

[rose thorn]

lol, I’m still probably gonn make an emperors children kill team because of their looks alone

I love their pink and gold crap

[storm jungle]

Oh yeah dont let that stop you

hopefully they'll get some more mini-attention in the future

[rose thorn]

I fucking adore fulgrim’s model

It’s probably my favorite demon primarch model

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/690768160504414259/897965674171871292/image0.jpg

Wait shit

No wait or sent

[final spruce]

Lmao its a kitbash

Good one at that

[atomic pelican]

Yes that's just Sigvald's model + Morathi's lower half

[rose thorn]

Damn

Oh that’s not a hard conversion at all

Okay yea my point kinda still stands

[errant mauve]

Sigvald's body is much smaller than the image implies

relative to morathi

[atomic pelican]

Ye that is correct

Morathi's snake form is pretty big

[errant mauve]

just a warning to folks

[rose thorn]

That’s probably stupid expensive isn’t it?

[atomic pelican]

Morathi? I think she's like $140 or so roughly, which is pretty standard for the large centerpiece models

[errant mauve]

don't want anyone dropping like $190 dollars just for a midget-grim

Morathi is uhhh

$138 USD

[atomic pelican]

$2 off

So close

[errant mauve]

Sigvald $55

[final spruce]

It's a Photoshop so no money involved

[errant mauve]

they made it $2 cheaper just to spite you

[atomic pelican]

😩

[primal tide]

http://www.coolminiornot.com/pics/pics12/img46fc0312e83b7.jpg

[odd sparrow]

he screm

[primal tide]

Truly the most beautiful primarch

I like his angry faced backpack

[errant mauve]

"Can we have Daemon prince Fulgrim?"
"We have Daemon prince Fulgrim at home"
Daemon prince Fulgrim at home:

[primal tide]

Megablox Fulgrim

[cloud kindle]

Thats the suit fulgrim wears when he wants no one to look at him

Wore it quite often after rylanor told him to fuck off

[peak hamlet]

Could prolly remove most of the rubble and stick sigvalt on a 40mm base

[neat fiber]

I find it interesting how mechanicus is always pictured with red robes yet in a few of the books I've read such as Spears of the Emperor the various forge worlds have different such as the one in the story having an almost purpleish blue color to their robes

[atomic pelican]

Yee It's cuz the red robes are Mars, which is the one most portrayed in art

[cursive hull]

Yeah

The Martian priesthood wears red in reference to the fact that this is what they wore into battle during the age of strife and reunification.

After all, they are on the red planet. Wearing red (Okay, so, Mars is more an orange color but lets ignore that.) makes good sense as camouflage, which is the purpose of the robes.

But yeah, other forge worlds wear whatever color they want to. Some still integrate red in some way as homage, but its not a requirement.

[neat fiber]

Also are gray robes only for dark mechanicus or was i told the wrong information

[cursive hull]

Not that I'm aware.

Forge World Metalica wears bright white, but given combat conditions and working with leaky machines, it often becomes more grey.

[neat fiber]

Yeah im just looking at dark mechanicus and the colors are pretty varied

[cursive hull]

To my understanding, there isn't really a sense of standardization in the Dark Mechanicum. its more a loose association than an actual faction.

[neat fiber]

honestly in most cases its kinda hard to differ between the dark and normal mechanicus but im pretty sure thats intentional

[cursive hull]

More or less.

The Dark Mechanicum and the main line Mechanicus behave a lot more like differing sects of their faith than opposing factions.

Although this isn't always true.

https://taleofpainters.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/03/adeptus_mechanicus_kill_team_01_02-2048x1366.jpg Also, this image of Metalica Skitarii shows my point

Around the bottoms of their robes, they've gotten dirty, so it becomes less white and more grey.

[neat fiber]

Yeah the whole mechanicus and dark mechanicus split seems to be more of religious differences divide since thats what the mechanicus is closest to

[cursive hull]

Side note: When or if I ever build a Mechanicus army, it'll use teal for the main color element, with brass metal bits and the wooden elements of weapons will be sorta like blackwood.

https://gyazo.com/3654a24137f25fb14be9968d37f29af3 Something akin to this.

[neat fiber]

I need to get to painting the stuff I have

just have had too much on my plate recently to get to it and I stress about colors too much

Looking at chaos art I really wish there was more presence of the dual nature in 40k as there is in some of the aos art I see

[cursive hull]

Eh, 40k is huge. Its harder to get a more consistent feel for duality.

[neat fiber]

Yeah

[atomic pelican]

It's also that specifically with chaos, AoS just.. has so much more variety

[neat fiber]

also holy hell this is cool

[atomic pelican]

P much every chaos faction feels really unique both in playstyle and aesthetic, since split codices and such

[neat fiber]

Recently Ive seen some of those videos from a guy converting those new sm figures that were released to thousand sons and khorne and its just amazing what people can do

[peak hamlet]

Is that a ... chain hammer?

[neat fiber]

Either that or a really big chain axe

I mean its flesh tearers so yeah

[peak hamlet]

Like i dig the paintjob but transforming a blunt impact weapon into a chainsaw seems a little too silly for me, even by 40k standarts

[cloud kindle]

its the rule of cool

it aint gotta explain shit

though anything big enough that isnt flattened by the hammer gets tore up by the teeth

[atomic pelican]

chainsaws are bad weapons in reality, adhere to rule of cool for best effect

[neat fiber]

if i'm looking at the flat style of chainaxes here (still don't know how these possibly rev but thats probably why they aren't mainstream now lol) I can see the resemblance so it might just be like a great chainaxe or something?

[cloud kindle]

true

though rule of cool

[neat fiber]

Yeah ever since I saw that forged in fire of the chainsword I'm just like yeah that would not work