Yee exactly
#40k-lore-chat
atomic pelican
storm jungle
Yeee
tender igloo
so he is really good at establishing a world and a setting, but bad at telling direct stories
atomic pelican
I will say that path of the eldar, there's a particular reason which Alaitoc is boarded so easily, but that's from my speculation of hints and such, plus I haven't finished Outcast yet
Yeah pretty much
tender igloo
i suppose i really can't say much. i love ben counter's books even though some can be pretty stinky
soul drinker is still one of my all time favorites
cerulean wagon
gav made genestealers infect a statue
atomic pelican
wait skele question about that
was it a ACTIVE avatar of khaine?
Either way it's stupid as fuck but im really curious if
cerulean wagon
i have no idea
cerulean wagon
i refuse to find out
atomic pelican
lmao
I'm all for GSC strength, but Patriarchs main strength shouldn't be them being a beatstick
atomic pelican
ur right :(
storm jungle
It wasnt active per-se, but rather WILLINGLY infected since genestealer stuff otherwise doesnt work at all on eldar since it works with the same reason as the orks of the process being way too complicated to work with
which again is weird because uh
THE STATUE IS HOT MAGMA
atomic pelican
Yeah LMAO
cerulean wagon
okay but dilara
that requires khaine
the god of murder
to sign himself over, even in part
atomic pelican
he never even surrendered to the chaos gods
but will surrender to a single patriarch
sigma patriarch
storm jungle
sfkdjsd
atomic pelican
I think someone is constantly shooting gav's brain with a microwave beam
cerulean wagon
dude literaly would rather be scattered to the 4 winds than surrender
eternal ledge
Finished "The Beast Arises"
Definitely could have used some trimming
And the whole Vangorich twist at the end was pointless
neat fiber
I had an interesting thought (mainly inspired by tzeentch having magnus's soul) if tzeentch is all about mischief I find it would be funny/make sense if tzeentch did not take the souls of his followers or something so they would be more than husks that followed his every whim and instead surprised him occasionally
gusty fulcrum
And the whole Vangorich twist at the end was pointless
Havnt read the books but i sorta know the timeline you talking bout the beheading?
gusty fulcrum
It wasnt active per-se, but rather WILLINGLY infected since genestealer stuff ot...
Even though there are outbreaks of genestealer orks which yes doesnt really make a whole lotta senseand they are suppose to be fuckign terryfying
But its implied as a furthter defense most orks can sense the wrongess of tainted orks and usually killem for not beign orky enough
gusty fulcrum
But there was one novel i read cant rmemeber if it actaully might abeen in the last chancer one i read last but a dude comes across a whole warehouse of them just chillin in some kinda hybernation state
ANd they way he describes is pretty fucking scary
Look still alot like orks but wrong
Are even tougher then full genestealers
possibly stronger
cloud kindle
i want to know what the custodes found when they purged a cult on terra
gusty fulcrum
and thanks to both the genestealer group mind and waagh feild they generate a weird psychic feild pulse
cloud kindle
they refused to allow the inquisition to see it and destroyed everything in the hive
gusty fulcrum
cuz he describes seeing unusual surges of energy surging around theyre heads off n on
cerulean wagon
its cause they havent removed the cult in full mullo
its still on terra
its why they think the december codex is GSC v custodes
gusty fulcrum
I mean i get why and all but im kinda surprised we havnt seen somthing like genestealer tainted chapter
cloud kindle
^
atomic pelican
Since theyre partyly sythetic
gusty fulcrum
Astartes organs reject the infection
Really i heard they can be but it gets caught from all teh scanning and scrutiny they do
atomic pelican
GSC infection cant infect nonorganics
gusty fulcrum
that and space marines cant breed
Figured itd be more the geneseed getting tainted
atomic pelican
Not the only reason to infect but yws
A patriarch or a potent magus could theoretically thrall a marine though.
And there is a small cult bit abt a cult stealing geneseed for experiments
cerulean wagon
GSC infection cant infect nonorganics
except the avatar
cerulean wagon
cloud kindle
i can hear eldar fans bones rattling
atomic pelican
Avatar of Khaine can just be killed by anyone so
This reminds me of the drukhari books where a single incubus kills a patriarch
gusty fulcrum
Maybe its cuz tyranids have eldar dna in tehm so they can get away with loopholy bs?
atomic pelican
By this measure, 1 incubus could beat a avatar of khaine
cerulean wagon
spook the avatar is a statue
atomic pelican
Yeah
cerulean wagon
its not a biological thing that can be infected
gusty fulcrum
spook the avatar is a statue
Was goin with the whole idea eldar dna being psychic ergo it doesnt work with laws of reality
psychic bs baiscly
atomic pelican
Thats rocks dear
cerulean wagon
if that was true they would just infect all statues or items of interest
atomic pelican
Also the idea of a patriarch overcoming a literal god shard psychically is new levels of comedy
gusty fulcrum
if that was true they would just infect all statues or items of interest
Its not like eldar can jsut psychically interact with any randomn object either
atomic pelican
Hoping for the next saga of GavPatriarch, where it thralls a ctan
cerulean wagon
No matter the genetic sympathy its still a statue
na proud... actually i wont say
visual pumice
Hoping for the next saga of GavPatriarch, where it thralls a ctan
on par with that nurgle rust disease bullshit
atomic pelican
Oh no
cerulean wagon
you can suffer it when you get to the book
cerulean wagon
: )
gusty fulcrum
No matter the genetic sympathy its still a statue
But its moved by psychic energy and a sacrificed soul so either way im assuming psychic bs had to take place to corrupt the avatar
atomic pelican
Im all for Patriarch Power, but it should moreso be the fact that they have a 'human' intelligence, above human even, and still the power of a beast + psychics
weak fern
Infect a necron.
cloud kindle
infect a trayzin body
weak fern
Ohno
cloud kindle
then it runs off with trayzins shit
gusty fulcrum
Infect Fabulas Bill
cloud kindle
new necron comedy
weak fern
Infect Emperor
cloud kindle
who in the void stole my stuff
cerulean wagon
But its moved by psychic energy and a sacrificed soul so either way im assuming ...
no you are missing the point. it wasn't a psychic activation, it was infected with the biological implant of a GSC patriarch
gusty fulcrum
or would his mind be tainted
gusty fulcrum
no you are missing the point. it wasn't a psychic activation, it was infected wi...
ok then yes that makes no snese
atomic pelican
Oh god thats even worse skele, I assumed it like psychically melded or some shit
cloud kindle
dunno if tainted
atomic pelican
It facehugged a statue
cerulean wagon
pretty sure its face hugged khaine
atomic pelican
LMAO
weak fern
cloud kindle
pretty sure fabulous has measures to protect his mind
cerulean wagon
the alternative is a patriarch psychically dominating khaine
atomic pelican
Sigma patriarch
Overtakes beta khaine
That patriarch has to be one of the most psychically powerful beings in 40k
gusty fulcrum
Khaine is W40ks worf effect
atomic pelican
Even the chaos gods couldnt get khaine to bow
cloud kindle
patriarch just walked up to khaine and went wololol
atomic pelican
Most sigma 40k character: unnamed patriarch
gusty fulcrum
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eaPXrtChPDw khain in lore
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5LnwLn9vnKo khaine in novels
cerulean wagon
Aight so did a quick search up on it because i aparently love the suffering this shit brings me
atomic pelican
Perhaps Khaine getting shafted so constantly is some master narrative of how his cruelty towards the other eldar gods/eldar prefall lead to him getting karmaic justice.
Or gav just sucks 
gusty fulcrum
Perhaps Khaine getting shafted so constantly is some master narrative of how his...
that or its worf effecting
which is basicly take a character known for being a tough badass
then have the bad guy or whatever kick the absolute shit outta him to show how powerful/bad the guy is
And since theyre only usually one main badass character they tend to get turned intoa beat bag overtime
atomic pelican
Now that a unnamed patriarch has owned a avatar, we're one step closer to every tactical marine having killed atleast one
atomic pelican
cerulean wagon
Apparently with the avatar, ||the avatar was both the avatar and a genestealer patriarch at the same time, as far as i can see it is never explained they are just 1 fused being||
cloud kindle
a bit of the ol' ultraviolence
atomic pelican
What the fuck
cerulean wagon
proud it gets worse
atomic pelican
I think someone is constantly shooting gav's brain with a microwave beam
Reiterating this
cerulean wagon
Someone ||almost accepts the broodkiss because they are lonely||
cloud kindle
was it macha?
cerulean wagon
no its one of the new people
cloud kindle
disappointing
gusty fulcrum
Apparently with the avatar, ||the avatar was both the avatar and a genestealer p...
ya know now that you describe it that way i actaulyl read bout that on 1d4chan
gusty fulcrum
and even the were like how the fuck did that even happen
atomic pelican
Path of the eldar is bad but good fucking fod
I see why they canceled the 3rd book now
Even GW had to go "woaah there buddy, going a bit heavy on the complete fucking nonsense eh?"
cerulean wagon
Lemme just post this garbage here
cloud kindle
what you dont want to give daddy patriarch avatar a kiss
god i feel dirty just typing that
gusty fulcrum
what you dont want to give daddy patriarch avatar a kiss
I feel like a nurgle tainted genestealer cult would be oddly synergistic
cerulean wagon
This is someones breakdown of the follow up section of the book and it fucking hurts
||They find Eldanesh's tomb, and meet their last obstacle - of all the shards of Khaine that found their way to different craftworlds, one particular shard found it's way back here to the site of his most infamous murder. This is not an Avatar - this is the Warshard of Khaine, the purest incarnation of Khaine that you can find, holding Eldanesh's still-beating heart in one hand and Anaris, the greatest sword of Vaul in the other.||
||With a motion, the Warshard turns the Ynnari mad and they start tearing each other apart. Only Yvraine (who is immune), Autarch Meliniel (Yvraine's top commander, who, due to the requirements involved in becoming an Autarch, has the discipline to resist) and the wraith units are able to keep their heads. The Visarch is even affected and starts a fight with Yvraine.||
||It's all going very badly until Yvraine decides to trust in the heart of the cards and gets killed by the Visarch - with her death (she gets better) she calls the Yncarne again and they manage to defeat the Warshard of Khaine||
cloud kindle
now i feel really sick
cerulean wagon
Jesus I really do think gav has Terminal 7
cloud kindle
not only will it give you GTD's you get a few nurgle gifts
atomic pelican
AND ITS AT ELDANESH'S TOMV
cerulean wagon
na the warshard is seperate dw
cerulean wagon
its a follow up bit after the gsc stuff
because spoilers ||the avatar just fucking dies||
the GSC one that is
atomic pelican
The Yncarne beating khaine angers me
cloud kindle
yeah they are not ultramarines
fuck they doin
but seriously it feels like avatar gets nerfed every time its mentioned
atomic pelican
I'm okay with the ynnari being oppressed since theyre the only cwe allowed to win now
well, sort of win
Also because I hate them.
cerulean wagon
literaly the only positive i am seeing anyone mention is the Visarch
aparently hes a character thats pretty great
atomic pelican
Yeah the Visarch is cool
Yee Ive read his backstory a bit
Hes neat
Also he Looks cool too
cerulean wagon
wait
i just realised
according to this that means the craftworld was 100% genestealers
like
no wraith boys or anything, just GSC
atomic pelican
OOPS! All genestealers!
cloud kindle
like how the fuck did it get that bad
cerulean wagon
they were lonely
cloud kindle
pffft
atomic pelican
In the old lore, GS could only infect eldar who consented. So this sounds near fucking impossible
cerulean wagon
didnt u know thats the eldars weakness, they are bad at handling emotions and can't keep them under control at all
cloud kindle
also pretty sure newer lore eldar could detect the infection
cloud kindle
and very quickly purge the infected
cerulean wagon
: )
atomic pelican
Yes, they can detect it in others. That was even before
Since psychically sensitive
cloud kindle
yup
cerulean wagon
mullo literaly every other instance has eldar go "thats not right" and purge it
cerulean wagon
cause they are on the look out for corruption cause they can't risk, you know, accidental chaos
atomic pelican
didnt u know thats the eldars weakness, they are bad at handling emotions and ca...
The entire path system being just for this.
Hurts a lot
atomic pelican
Yep
cloud kindle
whoops all slaanesh
gusty fulcrum
kissy kissy
Eldar after several centuries of not getting laid "ya know your looking kinda cute"
atomic pelican
Eldar gets lonely, entire craftworld infected, more at 8 on the Ulthwe Post
Thats 1000s of gs eldar
cloud kindle
only way i would accept it
is if the craftworld was suddenly smashed by a space hulk out of nowhere
gusty fulcrum
Eldar seeing the gsc drip and want in on that
cloud kindle
and genestealers poured in and kidnapped a few
atomic pelican
You know, what bugs me even more is that, a entire craftworld gets infected and no harle/other cw intervention as usual
gusty fulcrum
You know, what bugs me even more is that, a entire craftworld gets infected and ...
yes the lack of harlequin intervention is odd
maybe they didnt get the webmail?
cloud kindle
they had them on block
cloud kindle
they heckled them back into the webway
cerulean wagon
atomic pelican
Yrp
Farseers seeing the massive genestealer presence building in the future
eh, worry about it later
cerulean wagon
aparently it like
atomic pelican
They saw the sigma patriarch and all threads of fate were too much to handle
atomic pelican
LMAo
cloud kindle
of course it does
atomic pelican
Statdumped into the possession talent
atomic pelican
Probs one of the book only characters
gusty fulcrum
gusty fulcrum
atomic pelican
Bubblegum horde
gusty fulcrum
cerulean wagon
ah they were a new book character for a book i didnt know existed
who only exists to tell people eldrad is right and people should listne
cloud kindle
more like Eldad
atomic pelican
Ynnari stop fucking absorbing CWE characters challenge(impossible)
cerulean wagon
gusty fulcrum
come sit on papas lap and tell him all about your eldari worries
cerulean wagon
that spiritseer there? thats the Iyanna
cerulean wagon
like
1 sec
this isnt even a character basically
its a thing that exists to tell people eldrad is right
gusty fulcrum
this isnt even a character basically
its living exposition
cerulean wagon
"Guys i also had a vision, heres a prophecy saying eldrad is right"
atomic pelican
Gav has to assure himself even in writing
gusty fulcrum
hey giys did you know im pretty sure Eldrad had it right
cloud kindle
guys this rock spoke to me
gusty fulcrum
Hey so i was just gazing into the runes today and ya know what i saw? Eldrad being right
cloud kindle
it told me eldrad is right
atomic pelican
I think Iyanna existing undermines Eldrad just by existence
Like
Why do we need a char to tell us the greatest living farseer's prophecies are probably legit
cerulean wagon
you mean eldrad, the most potent of all farseers, needing a spiritseer to tell him hes right?
atomic pelican
YEAH
cerulean wagon
which isnt even the spiritseers job
gusty fulcrum
Shes just a hardcore fangirl yo
eternal ledge
Havnt read the books but i sorta know the timeline you talking bout the beheadin...
Aye
eternal ledge
Granted I didn't know much imperium lore between the heresy and The Raine of Blood
peak hamlet
Based pfp lmfao
storm jungle
@odd sparrow Ratty I summon you
odd sparrow
uh oh
storm jungle
||If the Emperor can literally turn into what he wants does that make him genderfluid||
I'm a brainlet I need guidance on this important lore
odd sparrow
||If the Emperor can literally turn into what he wants does that make him gender...
i'd argue not cus genderfluid is an identity, not a biological sex, so unless we have a good source for big e's specific gender identity we can't really know
storm jungle
Yeah I was just reading this passage and it came to mind
The reflection changes. For an instant, a figure of iron and blades with coal-furnace eyes is looking back at Him from a throne of chrome. Then it is gone, and the reflection is a blur of images falling one atop another: a golden warrior standing with drawn sword before the gates of a towering fortress, a figure before the mouth of a mountain cave, a boy with a stick and fear in his eyes, a QUEEN with a spear atop a cliff, an eagle with ten wings beating against a thunder-threaded sky – on and on, images tumbling over each other like the faces of cards tossed through the air.
‘Is there any truth in you?’ asks the voice that comes from the dark.
The images vanish and the darkness hangs before Him. It falls into the abyss beneath like a cascade of obsidian sand.
‘At the root of your lies, is there any truth, father?’
The darkness becomes a forest, dark trunks reaching to an untouchable sky, roots crawling out and down into the abyss beneath. The man on the chair is sitting on the snow-covered ground, a fire burning before Him. A shadow moves out of the dark between the trees. It is huge, sable-furred and silver-eyed. It drags its shadow with it as it comes forwards. It pauses on the edge of the light.
‘You claim to be a man,’ says the wolf, ‘but that is a lie revealed to any that can see you here.'
odd sparrow
TRANS EMPEROR
TRANS EMPEROR
storm jungle
AAA-
frosty cobalt
based thats why
i mean i guess he is "humanity" but like
we have got no proof that the emps even likes women
no women on the high council, no major women during the great crusade, no FSM
so i think the emps prolly just does it for the clout
peak hamlet
> The reflection changes. For an instant, a figure of iron and blades with coal-...
TRANS EMPEROR
TRANS EMPEROR
crisp heath
Do the night lords actually worship chaos
storm jungle
Depends from marine to marine
most of them detest chaos while others openly worship it
their marines are too much of a footnote atm in the lore to truly say
crisp heath
It says they don’t like chaos
storm jungle
Theres still night lords that worship it in lore
too many sources as usual so it'll be contradictory
peak hamlet
Depends from marine to marine
Noo but dilly the fight against the imperium, hence they must worship the gods!!1!!!!
storm jungle
storm jungle
Depends from marine to marine
See point above
Its like how some people worship religion and some don't, its too big of a matter to pinpoint.
visual pumice
the renegade non chaos boys would be very interesting to explore
visual pumice
love me death guard but ye
peak hamlet
Thats why i play red corsairs :)
visual pumice
alpha legion stuff is actually really cool aswell
peak hamlet
No chaos worship other than to create cults of stoopid canonfodder
visual pumice
like explained with no memes
storm jungle
Alpha Legion's only saving grace is their cool as hell color scheme
peak hamlet
Literally blue armor with green highlights
visual pumice
god the sneer on that
storm jungle
lmao ikr
although jokes aside its a really specific shade of blue
it looks almost chrome, i love it
visual pumice
tragic that the alpharius model is out of stock
storm jungle
peak hamlet
Yeah this looks a lot better than their old color scheme
storm jungle
they had an old color scheme?
visual pumice
what's the old one?
peak hamlet
Thats not how u create sea green gw
visual pumice
rubric without the gold
storm jungle
Rubrics literally use the ultramarine scheme
visual pumice
peak hamlet
Nah they got turquise(?) andyellow
visual pumice
hot
storm jungle
hehe
peak hamlet
Also should prolly get back to work
peak hamlet
🫂
vast frigate
frigid mesa
poor rubric marines
glad prism
https://www.warhammer-community.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/08/40kLegionFocus_Al...
This is technically newer since its post heresy, but ye
primal tide
Alpha Legion's only saving grace is their cool as hell color scheme
FACT
Paired with the scale pattern you see on them a lot
frosty cobalt
I hope the new tau codex lets me run a failsafe override on all my suits xD
That be fun
frosty cobalt
no mass produced onager gauntlets makes me sad as well, like damn refine that shit and lemme punch tanks
i killed a hive tyrant with one, punched its head clean off
odd sparrow
melee tau strictly forbidden™️
rotund siren
;-;
but how are the weeaboo supposed to get their fix if the animoo aliens don't have kawaii katanas? (joking.)
atomic pelican
Eldar
frosty cobalt
yea exactly
odd sparrow
idk eldar aren't that weeby tho
errant mauve
Give tau pilebunkers
odd sparrow
they have the vaguely east asian looking letters ~that GW still isn't bothered to explain meanings wise~ but
errant mauve
The proper weeb weapon for the Tau
frosty cobalt
just watch a pottery student, dripped out in their grandparents, kill a centuries old roided angy man
storm jungle
1 sec
frosty cobalt
idk eldar aren't that weeby tho
shuriken cannons
odd sparrow
if tau actually had katana looking things then maybe but like
storm jungle
odd sparrow
tau are mecha
frosty cobalt
this^
odd sparrow
but i dont think that quite qualifies for weeb status
also im not watching that again
storm jungle
lmao
and yeah eldar's weebness is just the uh
evangelion mechs
and the bushido stuff with the Path of the Warrior
odd sparrow
yeah true
storm jungle
since their culture aesthetics are really diverse
odd sparrow
but i still think the aesthetic is like, p distinct
storm jungle
Yeee its a big mix
frosty cobalt
again they also have shuriken weapons, but thats just 80s naming conventions
cerulean wagon
according to idiots anything is anime
frosty cobalt
i mean the tau were designed to sell to mecha fans, but gunpla is way cheaper
cerulean wagon
because anime is just animation so its literaly anything and everything
errant mauve
again they also have shuriken weapons, but thats just 80s naming conventions
They do be firing shurikens though
odd sparrow
dont the anti tank dudes literally have dreadlocks
cerulean wagon
thats the stealth melee bois
frosty cobalt
striking scorps
storm jungle
Yeah the scorpions are Predator
frosty cobalt
ye i was right
cerulean wagon
frosty cobalt
i forget most aspect paths
odd sparrow
ah
storm jungle
anti-tank are fire dragons
odd sparrow
i forgot those existed
storm jungle
which dont really have an aesthetic
storm jungle
aside from scalie stuff
frosty cobalt
i just love that most of them are conscripted civvies
storm jungle
No thats the Guardians
frosty cobalt
yea
storm jungle
and its less conscription and more of a militia
odd sparrow
are guardians conscripted?
frosty cobalt
srry not the scorps
odd sparrow
i always assumed like, yeah it was a consensual militia
storm jungle
Yeah all craftworld citizens can become guardians as a miliita
frosty cobalt
my mistake, wrong wording by me
storm jungle
they have a standing military but you dont have to sign up if it isnt anything urgent
cerulean wagon
Everyone on a craft world is military trained because they all travel a combat aspect at some point in their life
frosty cobalt
still tho, thats hilarious
odd sparrow
excepting prolly like the craftworld is actively being eaten by bugs
cerulean wagon
in the event the craftworld is under threat people who aren't currently following a combat path levy as guardians
storm jungle
Its basically like us all instantly putting on military gear and havign all the fighting experiences while being previously on different jobs in a sense
since eldar memory is very clear etc
cerulean wagon
if you've got a thousand years to live, spending 50 training for combat is nothing
frosty cobalt
i want more tau eldar shenanigans, even if its just the eldar doing this to the tau https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lhckuhUxcgA
storm jungle
yeah eldar and tau surprisingly dont interact much
and all they get is uh
codex lore blurbs
aka nothing on books etc
frosty cobalt
i think it be a fun time
cerulean wagon
i think its cause eldar are so psyker and anti chaos heavy for their stories
although it'd be intersting to see, the tau writers won't touch that cause "well theres nothing to do because tau cant be corrupted"
storm jungle
pain
primal tide
It's hard to show how scared eldar are of space marines if they're fighting tau instead
odd sparrow
yeah eldar and tau surprisingly dont interact much
which is sad cus their dynamics could be cool af
cerulean wagon
like people have pointed at where chaos corruption in tau was briefly hinted at, but the main tau author has stated that tau corruption will never be touched upon
frosty cobalt
i still want tau to just get like all necron tech to go anti warp
odd sparrow
with eldar being the old depressed burnt out xenos race
like ye ye kid ur gonna wanna kys in like 12,000 years too
cerulean wagon
when eldar are done right its like
real fun
except all the "hurr hurr elves bad" people showing up
frosty cobalt
like *ye ye kid ur gonna wanna kys in like 12,000 years too*
i want this, exactly this
cerulean wagon
and ignoring all the context of any given interaction
storm jungle
shit forgot my grudge line
primal tide
except all the "hurr hurr elves bad" people showing up
Looks like we got ourselves a leaf lovva here
frosty cobalt
like *ye ye kid ur gonna wanna kys in like 12,000 years too*
like, "damn thats a cute civilization, real shame u moved into this neighborhood kid"
odd sparrow
yep
cerulean wagon
you joke chapin but its actually painful
primal tide
shit forgot my grudge line
storm jungle
Yeah some are psychotic but dorfs are like the worst
frosty cobalt
i like dwarfs 😔
odd sparrow
same but i hate dwarf stans
primal tide
Dwarf stans make me cringe and embarrassed to love dwarfs lol
storm jungle
YES
odd sparrow
die
odd sparrow
it reminds me a lil of viking stans
storm jungle
"vikings didnt have horned helmets"
odd sparrow
albeit hopefully not in the probably a white nationalist way
storm jungle
What is it about norse stuff that fascinates nazis again
cerulean wagon
elf stans are mostly chill
i will disagree on this tbh, its not entirely the dwarf chuds fault, but they literaly wont let it go now that its no longer relevant.
Had a elf stan in a dnd party threaten the GM when their character died once tho so still a few of the old blood lurking about
primal tide
What is it about norse stuff that fascinates nazis again
They like history where white people killed and took land and had slaves or w/e
odd sparrow
i will disagree on this tbh, its not *entirely* the dwarf chuds fault, but they ...
i haven't met any like that
primal tide
There are definitely some cringe elf stans
cerulean wagon
its usualy the "my perfect immortal OC" people who cling to elves that cause the bad rep, and they can be as bad as the dwarf stans
primal tide
Like that Reddit guy
odd sparrow
,, tho i concede i haven't met that many hardcore elf stans in general
primal tide
spiritomb lmao
frosty cobalt
dumb as shit, in my dnd there was wars, but because thats what happens when two primary powers meet, but that was millennia ago. Nowadays there trade: precious metals and stones for fruit, honey, and other alcohol making things
odd sparrow
it's like. onut & elf and a few other queer friends i'm basing my perception off
storm jungle
what a psychopath
primal tide
Ikr
primal tide
They don't want to end up in his "utopia"
cerulean wagon
its kinda where the meme that started all the dwarf stans comes from
storm jungle
My guy is defending the thalmor who are literally elven waffen SS
cerulean wagon
cause elf stans did used to be the larger more vocal group
cerulean wagon
especially after LOTR movies
odd sparrow
,, i wish i didn't remember that.
primal tide
The sexual elf supremacist
storm jungle
the worst part is
he keeps asking for elf art from subreddits
and in them they're all abused and mutilated
???
primal tide
Yeah he is identifiable based off his requests alone lol
storm jungle
Hes still alive with alt-accounts too
frosty cobalt
sounds worse than wonderbread guy thats for sure
storm jungle
people can literally smell his comments when he appears sometimes lmao
"spirtomb is that you"
odd sparrow
~~and in them they're all abused and mutilated~~
something tells me this person has issues
idk what but i have a hunch
cerulean wagon
but ye both groups are bad its just the dwarf stans are the vocal group now
especially cause of TWWH and DRG
frosty cobalt
i just like dwarves casue im short and hariy too
primal tide
It is a pendulum
storm jungle
Yeah dwarf stans are the more vocal ones
elf stans are bad too but you gotta usually find them
odd sparrow
elf stans are bad too but you gotta usually find them
yee that seems true tbh
storm jungle
odd sparrow
like, dwarf stans travel in packs
odd sparrow
mood
cerulean wagon
lmao
storm jungle
sdfkDFSK
cerulean wagon
like i dont mind people liking either side or joking about it
frosty cobalt
i got all gold in DRG last night, now to play more drg, so i dont have to think about the OG comic
cerulean wagon
i mean fuck, sitting and RPing at a dnd session an internal party conflict between 2 people is great
but fuuuck me do some of the people who pick either side just suck
frosty cobalt
god how many fuckin emotes do u have
frosty cobalt
lord in heaven
odd sparrow
AWFUL
atomic pelican
Hmm I wonder why gamers dont like the race thats usually effeminately coded
odd sparrow
accidental fullcaps but it communicates my disgust effectively
storm jungle
literally the same old joke of "haha elf goes dead"
atomic pelican
🤔
odd sparrow
Hmm I wonder why gamers dont like the race thats usually effeminately coded
i wonder
these are the same types of ppl who get personally offended if u call a male character pretty
storm jungle
Also the BIGGEST excuse I hate
"Elves are arrogant"
meanwhile dwarves> literally murders a town of humans because they missed a single coin
primal tide
Given the gender disparity with Warhammer dwarfs, how many dwarf incels you think there are?
cerulean wagon
Hmm I wonder why gamers dont like the race thats usually effeminately coded
na its not that side of it, having been on the receiving end of the bad elf stan stereotype in sessions
reading "immortal and perfect at everything" in any bad eld lore or dnd backstory is just
odd sparrow
That is def an issue with coming up with elf characters
cerulean wagon
unfortinatly people carry it across settings and hate all elves for it
cerulean wagon
oh its not entirely that but its a large part of it
trust me, having seen it i can see why people would hate that stereotype
"what do you mean they shot me, my characters too cute"
storm jungle
valid
primal tide
I have seen this in action, it is annoying
atomic pelican
Also iirc werent the first like, playable warhammer 40k gals eldar
Like named chars and such
cerulean wagon
uhhh think so?
storm jungle
cerulean wagon
outside of maybe some lore mentions of inquis n stuff
odd sparrow
cus elves are the only fantasy race that consistently avoids being a sausagefest
odd sparrow
he is ❤️
primal tide
good lord the beakies just make them look like rats
cerulean wagon
oh right there was an elf stan who wanted a rape slave in one of the campaigns i was in
that was an experience
odd sparrow
alright we can stop there
cerulean wagon
yup
storm jungle
@atomic pelican Found it
The Eldar were originally mentioned at length with multiple pieces of artwork in the Rogue Trader hardback that kicked off Warhammer 40,000 all the way back in 1987. They made an early splash and had a small range of miniatures in those early days of the Grimdark. Here is a color plate of sample Eldar Pirate from Book of the Astronomican in 1988.
they look gay af
I love it
CAMO
cerulean wagon
raypunk is such a weird aesthetic
primal tide
Oh God lol
storm jungle
cerulean wagon
cursed
storm jungle
coming to steal some ass
odd sparrow
ngl i love the old eldar aesthetic
like, with there being actual exposed-ish machinery and frameworks and stuff
atomic pelican
Or maybe it was 3e
odd sparrow
longfinger u say
primal tide
Longfinger indeed
cerulean wagon
odd sparrow
but yeah broadly speaking i dislike how sci fi races with smooth v clean armour aesthetics keep getting that aesthetic plastered onto their structures too
final spruce
That's pretty good art
odd sparrow
like,, cmon
cerulean wagon
weird sweepin claws n shit
primal tide
That looks amazing
odd sparrow
yeah but it's all smooth, obvs deldar exempted. it all has that uhh
idk raypunk aesthetic maybe? there's nothing exposed, it's in the exact same style as their armour
this happens to tau too
cerulean wagon
tau have weird curves on theirs
storm jungle
but the old ones have a good aesthetic
atomic pelican
Yee
odd sparrow
ye i like the new eldars armour more
cerulean wagon
eldar is nothing exposed cause new lore is its all biometal
storm jungle
wraithbone etc
storm jungle
eldar use some other materials but its rarely mentioned lmao
odd sparrow
i hate biological technology nonsense
cerulean wagon
love the idea, and its a shame DOW3 died before establishing their take on it
odd sparrow
it always looks janky af
storm jungle
i hate biological technology nonsense
ur a biological technology nonsense
odd sparrow
and a hot one at that
odd sparrow
i'm meh abt it
storm jungle
the wraithbone actually looking like bone
odd sparrow
i guess it's sorta interesting? better than the smooth plastic looking stuff the models depict
storm jungle
yeah i think it only works as in an ultra cinematic angle
with minis it'd look weird
odd sparrow
ye
cerulean wagon
👏
storm jungle
🦴
cerulean wagon
fight me
storm jungle
I got a bone and u dont
cursive hull
TBH? Always preferred the textured look take on Wraith bone
The plastic look is... Its not great.
storm jungle
primal tide
I really enjoy wraithbone as a scifi twist of the "singing/magic-ing trees into what you want" trope
cerulean wagon
its mostly an issue of size
although they did do the wood mottling on the new lasguns
storm jungle
I really enjoy wraithbone as a scifi twist of the "singing/magic-ing trees into ...
Its definitely one of the more creative structure concepts yeah
primal tide
its mostly an issue of size
Yeah, the detail is lost at big scale
odd sparrow
i prefer machinery that actually looks like machinery, just aesthetically
storm jungle
i remember Medic saying it was "grotesque" since he just has a fetish for everything being manufactured 
odd sparrow
i like being able to look at a thing and be like ok i can sorta get how that functions
cerulean wagon
god im glad medics gone
primal tide
Yeah lmao I was just thinking about medic ranting about wraithbone
cursive hull
I don't mind this for the Eldar
final spruce
final spruce
Which they are supposed to be
cursive hull
I prefer machinery
storm jungle
Eldar equipment being better than everything humanity uses is relevant i swear
final spruce
They are aliens after all, jsut not upgraded humans
storm jungle
yeah and like uh
sci-fi elves dont exactly exist
outside of 40k lmao
at least not as fleshed out
final spruce
Starfinder
odd sparrow
imo tau has a nice balance for me with like, nice not-just-military-dude aesthetics without being like, so far removed from irl tech that it looks weird to me
final spruce
But that's another thing
primal tide
Man, I really enjoyed starfinder for the grand total of two sessions I played lol
cursive hull
T'au Tech looks vaguely like modern human tech, just with enough aesthetic twists to stand apart.
cerulean wagon
mood chapin
visual pumice
Mmmm
cerulean wagon
same happened to me, i was playing a melee starboi
odd sparrow
oh man i do not like it
odd sparrow
T'au Tech looks vaguely like modern human tech, just with enough aesthetic twist...
yeah! that's what i like about it
primal tide
I was some hacker rat gremlin with grenades hidden in his cheek pouches
cerulean wagon
imma grab the cool craftworld art again
primal tide
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-fgImDm8X-Vg/VdDwFLOrbXI/AAAAAAAALdU/M_LfyDyNBrs/s1600/...
Looks kinda.. gooey
storm jungle
man that artwork is gorgeous
primal tide
Love that one
odd sparrow
yeah that's my fav depiction of a craftworld
and seems to be the one adopted by battlefleet gothic too
storm jungle
Yeah in reality every craftworld is different
primal tide
The color makes it cozy too even tho it's beeg lol
odd sparrow
nods
cerulean wagon
fun fact
odd sparrow
it has amber vibes
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that glow is not cozy
odd sparrow
coruscant looking mfer
storm jungle
dfsjds
cerulean wagon
haha
cerulean wagon
but ye no i love the lore for Craftworld Lu'Nasad
cursive hull
cursive hull
But, yeah. Always will prefer steel to bone.
Machinery is just what I like.
weak fern
I always wanted to play an Aeldari in a RT campaing
weak fern
But my last GM was.....erf..."Imperium good, all rest are bad"
cerulean wagon
tbf theres no rules for playing eldar
cursive hull
I'm going to guess that the Eldar see that as a waste of a spiritstone.
cerulean wagon
most likely yes, the act of becoming one with the infinity circuit is considered sacred
you'd need to do a lot to earn the right, if they would even allow it
cerulean wagon
its only deldar
final spruce
Yeah the aeldari suppelment is homebrew
cerulean wagon
@storm jungle so yeah no idea if you knew it was possible, but i found a recorded instance of a human soul being contained to, and protected by, a soulstone
primal tide
That's pretty cool honestly
weak fern
Its not an Inquisitor ?
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"Shortly after the Explorers’ first encounter with Aspect Shells
or Corrupted Wraithguard, they reach a location of relative
calm upon the Craftworld. The GM should ask the Explorers
to make an Easy (+30) Awareness Test. Those who succeed
notice that the constant shrieks of torment seem softer here and
the lighting seems more sedate. With two or more degrees of
success, Explorers notice a spirit stone that glows with a deep
red hue. This is distinctive because it is not the purplish-green
seen upon the corrupted Eldar nor is it the pale blue of Farseer
Anaris and the other stones seen upon the Whisper of Anaris.
If the Explorers choose to investigate, they encounter the
spirit of Lord Inquisitor Kobras Aquairre. He immediately attempts to establish telepathic
contact with any Explorers that approach his spirit stone."
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how fucking cool is that?
storm jungle
yeah its great lmao
cerulean wagon
Also this eldar corsair
The Eldar Corsair that the Explorers have encountered goes by the name of Badb Ra. She has been sent to Egaria
Omega by her masters because they have detected the meddling of human hands in a region they are sworn to keep the
“despoilers” away from. Badb came to Egaria Omega alone, not to fi ght the intruders in the Egarian Dominion but to
use an artefact her masters have given her to close the maze so that none may enter again. Getting caught was not in her
plan, but Badb is resourceful and utterly determined to complete her mission in any way possible.
Badb Ra wants to seal the maze city because in its heart, it contains an artefact called the Hollow Atlas. The Hollow
Atlas is a rare and powerful device made by the Egarians in their last days, and could grant great power to those who
wield it. In essence, it is a map of the Expanse, but in actuality, it is far more (see page 140). The Crow Spirits know
of the Hollow Atlas, and originally sent Badb Ra to seal the maze city so that the Hollow Atlas (and other secrets of
the Egarian Dominion) remained undiscovered forever. However, with the possibility of Rak’Gol in the city, Badb Ra
is having second thoughts. She knows the Rak’Gol hunger for warp touched artefacts, and fears the thought of them
getting their claws on the Hollow Atlas. Depending on events, she may even be agreeable to taking the Hollow Atlas
from the city to protect it.
The artefact that Badb is carrying takes the form of a pendent made of irregularly formed, jagged white rock, and is
in effect a key. Badb keeps the key on a silver chain about her neck, tucked inside her ragged clothes. When the time is
right, Badb will use the key to realign the Maze City, and escape in the process. So long as they do not actively attempt
to stop her, Badb does not care what happens to the Explorers and their friends. Should they try to cross her, they will
fi nd even a single Crow Spirit Corsair a dangerous foe.
Throughout this part of the adventure, Badb Ra remains cold and aloof, and it takes a charming Explorer to elicit
much in the way of conversation from her. Badb will not allow herself to be taken prisoner, at least not without a major
fi ght, but will not give the Explorers any reason to do so.
storm jungle
I wish there was more eldar campaigns like this tbh
cerulean wagon
also this boi
Istaurmen Garadhûn
A Corsair of the Crow Spirits, Garadhûn serves as the
Istaurmen—diplomatic liaison—for Fate’s End. Because of
this, he is far more tolerant of humans and other non-Eldar
races than most of his kind. Keep in mind, however, the Crow
Spirits are renowned for their wanton slaughter of all nonEldar they encounter. Garadhûn’s superior is already near
the limit of his patience by the time Fate’s End encounters
the Explorers. The Istaurmen has managed to persuade his
commander not to begin a systematic destruction of all
humans within the Furibundus system. He is actively trying
to lead the Explorers to say the right things to calm his
commander, allowing the Eldar to establish an alliance with
the player characters.
cerulean wagon
They can, and it turns the corsairs against them
final spruce
Death
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which is a super tough fight, basically death ye lmao
final spruce
Knowing the crow stats its essentially suicide
cerulean wagon
corsairs do not fuck about
Takes a lot to fuck it up tho cause the players are the only way istaurmen can get the alliance to work, which is needed for him to reclaim the soulstone of a farseer he thinks is dead
the farseer isnt dead, they are actually working with you at this point, but depending on circumstances may not be present for the meeting and he wont bring them up
storm jungle
Yeee so its literally just
"why would you even ATTACK the corsairs in the first place" kind of option
final spruce
They can but they'll meet certain death
cerulean wagon
yeah, you would already (theoretically) be working with a farseer at this point
final spruce
Which is why its a RT campaign, RTs can be way more flexible than any Imperial
cerulean wagon
but if you did choose to pick a fight an encoutner is statted up
Considering players have literaly lept over tables to beat suspected GSC heads in with their fists cause the guy insulted the emporer
wouldnt put it past the players in my sessions to fuck about and find out
final spruce
The stats could also help to flesh out the power of the corsairs by having them joining a fight aswell
Just before meeting the characters etc
cerulean wagon
yeah, you can get them to assist you for later stuff
can be super useful, becuase theres a lot at stake in the campaign
I wanna run it one day, its a 3 part adventure
and theres a shit load of outcomes
depending on what players do, they can even literaly doom an entire subsector
atomic pelican
Corsairs can get p wild
They can sometimes be even more unpredictable than the drukhari
Since the Drukhari do follow some method to the madness
cerulean wagon
yi
vapid tiger
grand minnow
I love these guys
odd sparrow
just in case u ever forgot that the egyptian inspiration has been there from day 1 hsrgov
atomic pelican
LMAO
I will say I dont like all of Blanche's designs but his work matches necrons perfectly
odd sparrow
nods
errant mauve
thinkin about original knight castellan sculpts
visual pumice
😳
weak fern
Uuurgh
primal tide
Fixed his hunchback problem
peak hamlet
I think that was supposed to be an knight for epic
primal tide
Bonus:
visual pumice
boncle
weak fern
I got a pub for a unofficial music for 40k with Aeldari
Beautifull
Its just make me a vide who, i just want to be an Eldar and wandering the space, looking for my past Craftworld who died...
cerulean wagon
thats pretty great
dim totem
this seems like something that might differentiate from planet to planet no?
cerulean wagon
its from fantasy not 40k
smoky mauve
Oh is this from the new warhammerfantasy rpg? I got that ages ago and am like working my way through it haha
cerulean wagon
not a clue
storm jungle
Oh is this from the new warhammerfantasy rpg? I got that ages ago and am like wo...
Ah no its an oldie sadly
dim totem
its from fantasy not 40k
Ahhh sorry i am mentally stupid
odd sparrow
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/632672133968822282/895989813411463188/8b8...
YEET
primal tide
okay I love everything about this
errant mauve
Thinkin about Space Marine Strike Cruisers
cursive hull
?
errant mauve
look at it
cloud kindle
yeah its a QT
errant mauve
yeah its a QT
this guy gets it
storm jungle
Thinkin about Space Marine Strike Cruisers
I know you didn't even ask for it but heres every type of known Imperial ship incase you ever need it
cerulean wagon
a lot of em are from rogue trader
storm jungle
Yeh
storm jungle
What kind of class name is "Repulsive" though lmao
odd sparrow
Chaos has hella edgy names
The old pointy ones from the great crusade should prolly have multiple variations for pre and post chaos lol
peak hamlet
I mean they have names like "carnage" or "slaughter"
What kind of classification is that supposed to be lmfao
odd sparrow
Idk they are all like, a type of ship. Cruiser light cruiser battleship etc
Individual varieties just have edgy names cus they're used by chaos
dim totem
with the amount of superstition i hear the navy has
nobody's gonna wanna serve on the hms repulsive ok
storm jungle
lmao
storm jungle
Yeah that looks like its in the Transport category too
dim totem
so is this from that battlefleet gothic boardgame?
storm jungle
Its from lots of 40K rpgs where imperial ship types are shown
BFG is probably one of them
this is just suppose to be a board of collections for it basically so its fanmade
dim totem
makes me realize i dont like how most ships have that same layout going on
dim totem
yeahhh
dim totem
yeah and i find it weird how uh
dim totem
this is easily the biggest ship on there
a transport ship
i like these two
tbf with the amount of iconic ship designs start trek has
everything ends up looking like a star trek ship
unless you want that ww2 vibe
like the rogue trader cargo vessel reminds me of a cardassian ship... or was it dominion?
dim totem
cardassian yeah
i was always a bit disappoint with uh
andorian ships
this is shran's
dim totem
looks super generic to me
storm jungle
Bad.
cursive hull
And, in fairness
The Borg literally use geometric shapes, and still manage to be the most extent threat in the setting, as far as Star Trek goes
So...
Cube
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They're pretty good, if used sparingly
Once you start abusing them as a plot device it can get a bit irritating.
cerulean wagon
A lot of the differences on this are internal, they have the same structure and stuff but a lot of their utility is different
think the rogue trader book "dry dock" or "Fleet koronus" covers a few of em
cursive hull
Not to mention weapon loadouts
The Jorvian appears to have no main battery guns on either side of it, just launch bays.
Though, it clearly has turrets mounted in the centerline
odd sparrow
ngl im in love with transport/cargo ships in fiction
they're aesthetic, so practical looking
odd sparrow
ngl i dont like the eldar ships all that much
they're not bad but im a sucker for the like. super grungy sorta industrial looking vibes
one sec
odd sparrow
tau merchant ships my beloved
odd sparrow
okay ngl the space hulk and asteroid ships are p cool