ill post the goddamn pizza video if youre not careful
#40k-lore-chat
vast frigate
gusty fulcrum
monkeis like nanners
i dont know why some gifs i save have a play and others just do their thing
odd sparrow
idk what's the issue with it
if it's a detail thing then idk still dont see how that's a huge deal
cerulean wagon
the fact its an indistinct smear across my screen
Would be nice to have the details actually fully realised
like in this one
the closest orks mouth doesnt even look like its rendered at all
odd sparrow
yeah that one in particular is a lil oddly undefined, plus it has the not sure where im meant to be focusing problem
idk that one looks fine to me
cerulean wagon
its just a flat brownish void between his misshapen teeth
rotund siren
I like this one
odd sparrow
nobody cares about like
oh no u didn't do this tiny detail ur never gonna see unless ur opening the thing in browser
rotund siren
there's a suggestion of a tongue, a bright color on the face, enough to pull your attention but not your whole focus
this one feels more purposefully less detailed
cerulean wagon
even with it in the small window it looks blurry
rotund siren
as opposed to that one way above
cerulean wagon
it looks like im not wearing my glasses
odd sparrow
yee. So long as the like, actual vibe and centre of focus of it is intact i'm fine with it
cerulean wagon
which i really don't appreciate
gusty fulcrum
well are these perhaps just concept arts of sorts?
odd sparrow
and it's not like, crazy blurry
cerulean wagon
no this is the official art they use for codex n new stuff spook
cerulean wagon
yeah
it looks like concept art
it looks unfinished
it would be amazing art if they actually finished it
like compare the above to this
odd sparrow
meh
cerulean wagon
gusty fulcrum
ah classic
cerulean wagon
like
gusty fulcrum
you can see the fucking shit yourselves panic in the gaurds eyes
cerulean wagon
everything in the above is actually detailed except the far background
then the new art we have stuff like
this ork face
or this guardsman
wow no embeds today i guess
gusty fulcrum
https://i.imgur.com/JzJDB03.png
da fuck am i looking at?
liek seriously
all i see is a smudge
gusty fulcrum
then the new art we have stuff like
both link me to the same image
gusty fulcrum
thats still bad for warhammer art
odd sparrow
i dont see the issue still
odd sparrow
might i define what a corner is bonesir
storm jungle
Thank you holy shit
odd sparrow
it's away from the centre of something
gusty fulcrum
more sepcifically bad for officially colored warhammer art
storm jungle
i miss artists like kopinski tbh
odd sparrow
u know where that grot is
storm jungle
igor sid literally half-asses half the stuff he draws for GW lol
cerulean wagon
is this man made of floor or is the floor made of man?
he screams for he does not know
odd sparrow
Though yeah i am sorta sad if there's absolutely none of the like, big sprawling double pager stuff in new codexes
cus this isn't that, this is the stuff u put on one page above a textbox
atomic pelican
Its still there!
The drukhari codex has a spread iirc
So do the 8e ones, some of them
storm jungle
yeah the dark eldar codex only has 3 new artwork
everything is recycled
i know this because i got no life
cerulean wagon
theres still 2 page spread but most of it isn't new
gusty fulcrum
cus this isn't that, this is the stuff u put on one page above a textbox
even those were still more detailed
cerulean wagon
almost all the new art is in the above style
cerulean wagon
wtf
storm jungle
its symbolic
odd sparrow
and it's like, right there
cerulean wagon
is wrong with the flamer ladies face
cerulean wagon
WHERE IS HER FACE
gusty fulcrum
I mean i guess if they wannna bullshit us with the idea these are meant to be 'paintings' instead of like 'photos' sure
cerulean wagon
odd sparrow
sorta looks like the artist messed up with the smudge tool for this one
yea that is odd
storm jungle
I copied his style, gimme money
gusty fulcrum
hey i said bullshit
cerulean wagon
lmao
odd sparrow
Like, i'm chill with codex art not being fully detailed sprawling renaissance ish nonsense but like, it needs to have a detailed centre
gusty fulcrum
im not saying theyre goood paintings
cerulean wagon
lol
odd sparrow
u should be able to look hard at where ur meant to be looking without realising it all looks like it's in crayon
storm jungle
but yeah thats enough art complaint from me for a day lul
cerulean wagon
you could pick out gear and faces and it was all just great
i mean fuck, half the faces from the Steel legion one are used for memes
gusty fulcrum
you could pick out gear and faces and it was all just great
they dont want us to meme
odd sparrow
i'm a slut for more stylised ish stuff so i dont have that much of an issue with it
odd sparrow
sketchy stuff or like, mostly just atmospheric stuff with v little detail doesn't offend me
cerulean wagon
like if it looks like actual paint brushing then sure
but it just looks like im squinting at it from far away
gusty fulcrum
like if it looks like actual paint brushing then sure
they wanna make it look shitty enough nobdy wants to 'steal' their art and use it for the memes
like they did with fanimations
cerulean wagon
lmao
gusty fulcrum
Its a conspiracy! https://arc-anglerfish-washpost-prod-washpost.s3.amazonaws.com/public/BZCZANZQMM4JLJPGGNZPG4AQFA.gif
ah there we go
storm jungle
On other news
"Codpiece on male scorpion should be prominent, female less so."
Love this book
storm jungle
smh smh
odd sparrow
god bless
vast frigate
Everyone knows female elves have bigger dicks
so you use less plating because its useless to try and contain it
atomic pelican
The aspect suits are agender and passed down. Therefore that male scorpion's cock must be so fat its pressing out the plate
final spruce
Clearly not the hero from that Eldar book
atomic pelican
atomic pelican
Just speakers I think but I'm only going on the gothic cutscene where trazyn talks to cawl
His mouth pieces like glow as he talks
vast frigate
do necron open their mouths to talk or are those just speakers?
theyre solid plates
but it depends on the uh
necron itself, if theyre more free and higher in rank they tend to modify their body to suit their taste
thats only from bodyguards and up tho
peak hamlet
Some of the new crons are missing their lower jaw which suggests they are actually seperate pieces
Or just the gw design team going nuts
dim totem
or it fell off
odd sparrow
if they are seperate pieces then they def dont move
peak hamlet
Yeah i dont see how they could move
gusty fulcrum
Necrodermis metal is living metal
it can flow organicly
Remember Ferrus's arms are hevily implied to be coated in necrodermis
THe ctan are made of teh stuff and the move like fleshy beings
Theres plenty of lore having it flow in organic ways under the right stimulus
usually being reabsorbed into larger masses of the stuff
open summit
Ferrus' arms are covered in Necrodermis. IIRC the White Scars also coat the heads of enemies they kill on Great Hunts in it, as well. Further evidence that Chogoris is a tomb world stems from the fact the Necrons shot up a very specific area of the planet before leaving.
errant mauve
Theres plenty of lore having it flow in organic ways under the right stimulus
Honsou's arm does this all the time too.
gusty fulcrum
Ferrus' arms are covered in Necrodermis. IIRC the White Scars also coat the hea...
i thought the coat it in silver?
the white scars i mean
but either way my main point was with necrodermis being an organic metal i dont see why at least higher ranked necrons couldnt make their mouths move by manipulating the metal
open summit
It’s not organic. It’s a “living metal” yes but it isn’t organic.
gusty fulcrum
I guess i meant in the sense that its basicly techno organic in how it functions
lofty storm
lofty storm
Pretty dope.
frosty cobalt
Nocturne tanning salon
lofty storm
Radioactive planet (technically sunlight is radiation).
So I get it.
That's so cool.
Why is the setting of Warhammer so fucking cool.
Stupid sexy setting.
frosty cobalt
Its made to be cool and Nothing Else
Logical, sensible, feasible
Throw dat shit out its time for cool shit
odd sparrow
good
cerulean wagon
dont
final spruce
Im just a but saddened by Tyranids being made even less of a threat
final spruce
Cawl can repair eaten planets now
frosty cobalt
Swarmlord getting btfo-ed by a fuckin wounded tired dante
tiny nova
I don't read eldar books because there is nothing that they could write in them that would make me happy.
final spruce
Tyranids have been reduced to surface feeders
atomic pelican
consoom
frosty cobalt
Id always assumed that you could repair nid ate planets
final spruce
Also the Imperium just getting its head out of its ass too quickly imo
atomic pelican
Nids used to eat down to the bedrock, cryptid
They'd leave literally nothing
including the atmosphere
frosty cobalt
I want gulli to fall down some stairs and pass out for another few decades
lofty storm
I thought most exterminadus/Tyranid assaulted planets are like. Legit empty husks.
final spruce
Which is why Kryptman tried to exterminatus the planets to starve the nids
final spruce
I thought most exterminadus/Tyranid assaulted planets are like. Legit empty husk...
They used to yeah
frosty cobalt
Nids used to eat down to the bedrock, cryptid
Ye but if the magma and stuff is still rolling around, the water cycle will begin after a while
atomic pelican
consoom
frosty cobalt
I mean
plucky moth
if the core is eaten it'll just...collapse in on itself wouldn't it?
frosty cobalt
I guess???
final spruce
Yep
frosty cobalt
Yea how do u do that while getting the biomass?
plucky moth
and you'd be left with some asteroids
cerulean wagon
they converted all the liquids on the planet to acid
cerulean wagon
and it sorta turns everything into a soup
plucky moth
MMMM MINERALS
frosty cobalt
MOLTEN IRON
atomic pelican
lick da mineral
final spruce
And even so cryptid, sucking the water and atmosphere is enough to doom a planet
cerulean wagon
frosty cobalt
And even so cryptid, sucking the water and atmosphere is enough to doom a planet
Like i said if the geo cycle is still going it will start back up
cerulean wagon
Basically cry they turned it into soup
atomic pelican
frosty cobalt
I know
atomic pelican
hivefleet showing up to the ocean
cerulean wagon
then make bio space elivator straws
cerulean wagon
and succ
final spruce
Yeah it was the tyranid thing
frosty cobalt
Would kill anything
final spruce
That every planet was lost forever
cerulean wagon
ye basically once the atmosphere was pealed and the liquids gone, the planet itself would destabalize
it wasnt that they directly killed the core
but the planet would lose its natural protections
and either usualy freeze over or become extremely volcanic
storm jungle
Would kill anything
Its a mix of what the people have said here and GW not realising how a planet and its systems work lol
frosty cobalt
Its a mix of what the people have said here and GW not realising how a planet an...
Yea i guess haha
frosty cobalt
final spruce
Dow2
cerulean wagon
yup
frosty cobalt
Oh yea nid eating is one of my fav things, but i never heard/read anything about them managing to get to the core
lofty storm
Legit everything just was thrown into the soup and consumed.
frosty cobalt
And i have a friend with over 10k worth of nids, we talk about them alot
lofty storm
Armor, metal, weapons, flesh, plants oceans consumed, etc.
Plus the way they travel.
Destabilized the planets entirely.
Causing extinction events to start.
cerulean wagon
nids dont make much sense
frosty cobalt
I know the planets die, but like ive said, the water cycle will begin again if the geo process isnt fucked up. And ITS REALLY hard to screw that process up
cerulean wagon
they are very rule of cool
frosty cobalt
Yea
storm jungle
Yeah they exist to fill the role of your classic space bug race
hence why they got all the tropes that go with it
frosty cobalt
They work better as escaped livestock
They expend too much energy to be a predator
Some style of modifiable livestock, able to make/eat most things
Got out and is now booling cross the galaxy
lofty storm
I believe their gravity wells from space travel used to literally cause gravity disruption on the planets which would cause earthquakes, floods, insane weather, etc. Before they arrived and then consumed it to an empty broken husk.
storm jungle
Narvhal ships yep
lofty storm
Wait a second... Why does this sound familiar...
frosty cobalt
More of this plz gw
cerulean wagon
being escaped livestock is less interesting imo
i love them being other galaxy problems that are now our problems
frosty cobalt
Oh i agree
lofty storm
Yeah. And plus they had a really interesting effect on also fucking with the Warp. So it makes them an interesting component vs Chaos and Eldar and shit.
frosty cobalt
Thats just the “real” science reason my friend and i discussed
And hes got a bug science phd so i like talkin nids with him
lofty storm
Or maybe the Tyranid are finally joining the Tau greater good. 🌝
frosty cobalt
Lol, i wanted some pheromone helmeted gaunts
lofty storm
😂
lofty storm
That would have been sick.
frosty cobalt
I mean i almost made them, but then took my big break from wh
frosty cobalt
Ha maybe
Gonna get a carni for my commander to behead, maybe ill grab some gaunts too
My tau are bug hunters
So maybe they’ve “tamed” some
lofty storm
I would love to see them when you're done!
I've got a fuck ton of painting to still do
And about 10 different project ideas.
Not enough time in the day.
frosty cobalt
If i ever get around to it. Im moving soon so i might wait till thats done
lofty storm
Definitely wait.
lofty storm
I also need to figure out how to mold hollow landscapes for a diorama. Like make mountains out of wire and then add clay to them and shit.
frosty cobalt
Need that camo cloak material
lofty storm
Yesss
frosty cobalt
I also need to figure out how to mold hollow landscapes for a diorama. Like mak...
Egg cartons, and milk cartons of various sizes, cut em up and tape them together, then paper mache over the top
frosty cobalt
Give them bumps with wire armature and ur all set
lofty storm
Thats so slick.
lofty storm
Making a snowy planet scene with SM pouring out of a chapel built into the side of a mountain and fighting some Chaos goons/Tyranids/etc.
Have a big knight on the battlefield too.
Its gonna be a big boy.
frosty cobalt
Ah i see ye, you could make a hollow mountain easy with some proper wire and mache
lofty storm
That may be the move.
And I found a good chapel kit for 30 bucks.
And it's sized properly.
lofty storm
That is so so nice of you to say. I'm a little bashful about it because I've seen some absolutely flawless Guilliman.
But I like the style I've developed.
frosty cobalt
Well yea i follow that dude daemonrich on insta and just
Lord
I dont even wanna paint when his shit exists haha
lofty storm
Yeah. Like. When I finish a model I purposely try NOT to look at other painters.
I end up nitpicking myself to death.
frosty cobalt
Constant comparison is the death of improvement
frosty cobalt
Tho i will say i think this is one of my fav models ive ever seen
God i wish i could paint this well right now. Practice makes perfect!
frosty cobalt
IKR like
The coconut crab theme was big with nids, saw everyone doing it but this
Just
👌
lofty storm
Wayyyyy too good.
frosty cobalt
theres a writing contest for the tau discord so i gotta get cracking on that, but i need to headcanon a few things too casue fuck writing xeno lore that the fans can use huh?
frosty cobalt
ye
frosty cobalt
Server invite? Am curious
atomic pelican
Huh wow
odd sparrow
thank
odd sparrow
maybe there's a bigger tau one
atomic pelican
Ye probs, because the Cults one is like 500 smthing and I know tau comminity is big
final spruce
Damn so much tau players
frosty cobalt
this is the offical one i think, one of the heads is like the main contributor to the tau lexicon thats not the one thats just remixed Mongolian
cerulean wagon
just found this art
its super cool
nurgle SoB
@storm jungle u can share it with ur friend
final spruce
Yes
frosty cobalt
@odd sparrow how does this sound for a start
"It was worrying, the smell of burning flesh had become such a common occurrence to him that he was able to tell the piles of charred corpse apart just by scent. The Y’he tainted the air with spores and miasma as the creatures burned in piles, infecting the air with the smell of copper and sulfur. Tau and Gue’Vesa burned the same, a stong smell that churned the stomach with thoughts of a post-hunt feast."
needs some work, but i think its a good start
odd sparrow
! that's a good start
Is very clear that y'he = nids even without knowing tau lexicon stuff
odd sparrow
spores makes it pretty clear yee
frosty cobalt
yea imma traumatize my poor blueberries lol
gonna try to make the nids as scary as possible
odd sparrow
If i'd nitpick any element then i do think it's v slightly wordy, but im also very nitpicky abt phrasing anyways so idk
And yeah i do like the detail of including sulfur with the burning nids
frosty cobalt
oh yea thats my big flaw i can be quite wordy
odd sparrow
gives them sorta unholy scary vibes
frosty cobalt
i wanted the smell to be like organic battery acid smell kinda
odd sparrow
yee, i try to cut down on as many words as i humanly can when i'm rereading through stuff
it's gonna flow better the more info u can pack into as few words as possible, if u can infer stuff rather than explicitly stating it in the text that's a win
esp for opening paragraphs, they should hook you in with like, ooh what's going on, rather than purely describing a scene imo
frosty cobalt
thats very true
im trying to do that but at the same time i want this to be veryyyyyyy
idk
informative is the wrong word
Direct thats
thats it
the MC is a very blunt tau so its kinda from his perspective
but yea
thank u for the advice tho!
odd sparrow
It was worrying that the smell of burnt flesh was so pervasive that he could tell the origin of the corpses apart by scent alone. The Y'he smelled of copper and sulfur and some other something that indicated a manner of spore in the air, whereas the Tau and Gue'vesa burnt strong and earthy, with a less unnatural and more familiar tone.
this is how i'd do that in my writing style i think
odd sparrow
the MC is a very blunt tau so its kinda from his perspective
!! that makes sense
i'd lowkey make them comically anal and medical about everything
odd sparrow
nods
Writing how tau would go about a long attritious defensive-ish war would def be very interesting, im not sure how much GW stuff even exists about that
given usually tau tactics are to withdraw if overwhelmed i'd picture that it's like. move civilian populations to very centralised areas/evacuate off planet in early stages of the war, use preplanned chokepoints/ambush areas baked into the urban infastructure against the enemy
lots of cool stuff to explore there
frosty cobalt
yea they are the N'dras Redirection cadre
basically a decade ago, the etheral council sent out pods with genestealers in them to various imp held worlds on the edges of tau space, in order to direct the attention of the hive fleets away from tau worlds
and this cadre exists to make sure that the nids are slowed down as much as possible
by either creating more of a ruckus on the imp worlds so imp forces are drawn into the fight and bog down the nids, or just focusing on high value synapse creatures
odd sparrow
this is surely a good idea for the tau
frosty cobalt
Oh Yes It Totally Wont Backfire
gaunt vector
ngl I'm looking forward to that
frosty cobalt
**this is surely a good idea for the tau**
it actually works kinda, but the seeding is heavily looked down apon as a barbarous act, and this cadre gets alot of scorn for being the ones told to do the dirty work
odd sparrow
it actually works kinda, but the seeding is heavily looked down apon as a barbar...
ye that makes sense
frosty cobalt
eh im allowed 2k words so maybe if i do a sequel
itll backfire
but then again this is a tau story, and while there is no winning against the nids, there is victory in redirection
frosty cobalt
"The carnifex crashed into the bunker, its maw spilling plasma into the firing ports as its claws ripped into the rockcrete structure. A missile twirled through the air, slamming into the monster's flank. It roared and turned, charging across loops of barbed wire like grass. Fogblade watched as the Taurox that fired the missile was sent tumbling from the beast's impact, crumpling the steel like paper. A crew member crawled out, pistol in shaking hands as they pointed it at the carnifex. Fogblade admired the human's courage for the brief moment before the two halves of their body were sent flying from the carnifex’s talons."
odd sparrow
F
wicked moss
If the factions of 40k are sodas, which sodas are they?
serene jungle
Imperium is Coke
slow prawn
Chaos is Pepsi
serene jungle
Space Marines is just straight up Vanilla Coke
wicked moss
Slaneesh is a ruffied monstor energy drink
Khorne is probably ginger beer
Because its the angriest soda
Nurgle ia a sprite that sat out in the sun for a couple days but you decide to drink it anyway because theres nothing else and you regret it
storm jungle
Primaris is Diet Coke
wicked moss
^ lol
Eldar are Orange Fanta
Drukarhi is RC cola
Harliquinns are Yellow Mellow/Squirt because no one drinks them or knows about them
Actually, Druhkari are Pinapple Fanta
Tyranids are RC cola
Gene stealers infect worlds with RC cola in vending machines untill its too late
frosty cobalt
Thank u i try
frosty cobalt
Harliquinns are Yellow Mellow/Squirt because no one drinks them or knows about t...
Nids vs harlequins m41 colorized
wicked moss
Tzeentch is cream soda, its either really good or really bad and your opinion on it changes speradically
Is it good, is it bad? Who knows?
serene jungle
Pretty sure that Tau would be cream soda
Considering its such a heavily japanese thing
Cream soda is so normal that stuff even comes in packs
drink and cream
And the ones in vending machines even has labels telling you to shake since they are usually half and half and won't start dissolving and become liquid until you shake it
wicked moss
Tau is ramune
marsh grail
Slaneesh is Monster Energy Drink
That’s isn’t referencing what I think it’s referencing is it?
marsh grail
Khorne is probably ginger beer
Oh I drank one once and thought I was going to die.
wicked moss
Exactly, literally a soda that hurts you to drink
marsh grail
Nurgle ia a sprite that sat out in the sun for a couple days but you decide to d...
Is Tzeeench lacroix
wicked moss
Cream soda, see above
marsh grail
Is it good, is it bad? Who knows?
You know that’s deep. Like I could never buy a case of it. You have one and like it or don’t. That’s crazy
serene jungle
That’s isn’t referencing what I think it’s referencing is it?
Yes.
wicked moss
Shrodingers soda
dim totem
yus
prime kernel
dim totem
In my head the sarcophagus is upright and the body is looking out through the slit
Oh yh he kinda is
Sorta
vapid tiger
https://images-wixmp-ed30a86b8c4ca887773594c2.wixmp.com/f/48559d2d-f2ef-4d7c-823...
He does not look happy
peak hamlet
I wouldn't be happy either tbh
cursive hull
At least he's probably not aware of where he is.
Dreadnoughts are almost universally confused, forgetful, and usually aren't able to focus very well.
I wouldn't want to be one, is all I'm saying.
odd sparrow
dreadnoughts have ADHD
cursive hull
More like they're going senile.
crisp heath
>fav faction have goat legs
>cri becasue i cant draw digitigrade legs
best way to think about it is exactly as it is, digitigrade locomotion is essentially if you were to walk on the ball of your foot, instead of the heel, so if you were to keep your toes flat to the ground but lift your heel off the ground. anatomically that means that the femur is usually far shorter and the length between the heel section of the foot and the ball of the foot in most mammals
tau though are actually unguligrade, as their feet end in hooves
while that usually doesn't mean a whole lot of difference for the proportions anatomically, they still somehow have rearward "toe" protrusions towards where a human's heel would be, suggesting that they actually might have evolved to unguligrade locomotion from plantigrade locomotion, which is how humans walk
they may still sometimes be able to support their weight on the full length of the foot, but don't primarily use it as a means of locomotion as much as for stability, particularly when kneeling or crouching
basically base how they walk off of a mix between a horse walk and a human walk
and you can draw them basically like humans with HUGE feet when crouching or kneeling down
dim totem
this man knows a lot about feet
vapid tiger
sus
crisp heath
don't blame me blame roanoke gaming
literally all of the anatomical knowledge i have with regards to the types of walking come from him analyzing random game monsters n shit
actually that and biblaridion's alien planet series, which also talks about the different swimming types
frosty cobalt
best way to think about it is exactly as it is, digitigrade locomotion is essent...
thanks for the write up! i do know how the legs work, i just suck at drawing them XD thx for the correction on the type tho thats my bad
crisp heath
nono it's really like a small ass thing to correct
it just takes practice to get any kinda drawing doe
neat fiber
Just a question but does anyone have like a reference for how the shoulder guards for any of the marines armor move when they raise their arms above their heads or anything
vast frigate
sideways and then at an angle
odd sparrow
ye duh but
i cant think of anything depicting it. iirc they are basically perfect semicircles + hopefully there are depictions somewhere of them from a downward angle, so it shouldn't be incredibly difficult to figure it out
errant mauve
@atomic pelican Do we know the names of any Exodite units/characters?
odd sparrow
Yeah there's not that much to work off of directly
errant mauve
damn 😔
atomic pelican
Like
odd sparrow
there are some descriptions of different like, 'units' in a few books
atomic pelican
We know they have like dinosaurs w lasers strapped to them
odd sparrow
like eldar riding different dinos and such
atomic pelican
And exodite worldsingers
odd sparrow
~which were just ripped off from warhammer fantasy but~
errant mauve
Working on some fluff for my IW rn and I wanted a big loss the suffered during the GC to be against Exodites 
atomic pelican
Who are p much super buffed planetary farseers
odd sparrow
Make your own fluff up for them, p much
atomic pelican
They use the Worldspirit to access the Skein
odd sparrow
if u can't figure out what to do then probs 40k-ify wood elf stuff, they're p close anyways
atomic pelican
And have a like connection to the planet
errant mauve
I just used generic Eldar terms when describing their dues
atomic pelican
Esp if u like
Kill the worldsinger or smthing extreme
The planet literally starts going apeshit on everyone
Drukhari capture a worldsinger in Path of the Deldar and the planet goes into a apocalypse from the Worldspirit going ape
errant mauve
What I have rn
Is that the GC of IW
Basically get cucked in a reconnaissance engagement against Exodites
Do exodites use wraith constructs?
storm jungle
Kind of?
errant mauve
Based
atomic pelican
I dont think they could make constructs bcuz
Wraithbone comes from a infinity circuit
Which are CWE
storm jungle
Yeah its a mix, they got OP tech but they keep them in their basement and rely on their talents/dinosaurs a lot more
errant mauve
Because I have the Warsmith getting ripped limb from limb by Wraith constructs and I don't rly see normal eldar doing that to a Cataphractii wearing Iron Warrior
atomic pelican
Could be like nature constructs made of the worldspirit
The worldspirit is kind of a natural circuit
storm jungle
Yeee this too
atomic pelican
Yeuss
errant mauve
I will now continue writing homebrew 😎
storm jungle
Like you can just make the world-spirit summoning golem-esque stuff to kill him
as onut said its not out of the realm of possibility
atomic pelican
First writing where exodites dont get owned instantly 
storm jungle
atomic pelican
Or saved by CWE
errant mauve
They still have to lose a battle because I can't have my IW getting wiped out during the GC
But even then I tried to make it not look like a loss
The Exodites surrounded the IW but a weak point in the organization was exploited for a mass retreat
atomic pelican
Yeyeye, its okay. Exodites fluffwise cant rlly standup on their own against big invasions anyway
errant mauve
And by "Mass" I mean the 90 guys who still survived 
atomic pelican
They p much rely on Craftworlds to protect them while they fight guerilla wars
final spruce
Gorilla wars smh
atomic pelican
🦍
errant mauve
Gorillastartes 😳
final spruce
Share
gaunt vector
yes
final spruce
Ye
final spruce
Y9u assume sm dont already
atomic pelican
Another neat thing that varies by planet is that
Not all exodites have gone full anprim
Many have towns and such
atomic pelican
OH YES
final spruce
Not all exodites have gone full anprim
I though that lore wise atleast half of the exodites accepted tevhnology to a point aka web portals and the heretical void sabre
odd sparrow
wat
atomic pelican
Thsts right
Exodites being anprims mostly just a meme, cuz they are only anprims compared to the asuryani
odd sparrow
I always imagined exodites as having like, equally as advanced stuff locked away as the rest of the deldar, and just living as luddites
atomic pelican
Yee
errant mauve
I knew about Lifeseeker before I played Dead Rising 1 
atomic pelican
Thats right
final spruce
I know void sabre are like a death sentence type of heresy for eldarssince it uses precious soulstone
errant mauve
I found them through my spotify recommended 
odd sparrow
they still came from the eldar empire and they never objected to it on account of technological matters
it was societal stuff
storm jungle
Yeee I said it earlier if my brainlet brain serves me right, its a case of them avoiding using tech if possible but if they're pushed to the limit they will deploy the heavy shit
final spruce
And exodite justuse em like tjay
storm jungle
And exodite justuse em like tjay
Same as terminator armor
"uwu so ancient and rare"
literally every chapter has one
atomic pelican
I believe its because maiden worlds have a good supply of it
final spruce
"uwu so ancient and rare"
Oh no its not ancient or rare
atomic pelican
Whereas usually u have to get tears of isha from croneworlds or just have them
final spruce
But to crzatr a v9id sabre you leed to sacregice soulstone material
The stuff so incredible harsbto get
storm jungle
Yeah its also important to remember that the most frequent contact Imperials have with Eldar is through corsairs, Exodites and Craftworlders are really good at hiding, an imperial force finding them is like 1000 to 1
atomic pelican
Depends on the craftworld
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Iyanden 
atomic pelican
Iyanden works with impwrials p often
storm jungle
DFSKFDS
errant mauve
I remember when Terminator armoured used be rare and intimidating 😔
storm jungle
they work very good with bugs too
final spruce
I assume ded craftworld like biel tan dont care nomore
storm jungle
atomic pelican
Biel Tan aint dead and they still hate humies
Theyre the most xenophobic of craftworlds
errant mauve
Biel Tan
final spruce
I thought it was san hann that hayed humans
final spruce
To the point of going to conflict woth other cw other po key smaughter
atomic pelican
Saimhann is just kinds extreme by cwe standards, thats their schtick
soft bison
If my lessons from Dow has taught me anything
soft bison
Biel tan is rude
storm jungle
Yeah Saim Hann are rebels bro
errant mauve
🚲
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😎
soft bison
But so are all eldar so not helpful
errant mauve
Saim-Hann are the true posterboy Eldar
storm jungle
They use MLG Clans
errant mauve
anyone who says otherwise is wrong 
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but instead of no scope duels its bike duels
final spruce
Dunno I like eldrad
storm jungle
Eldrad is a loser tho
final spruce
He pretty chill for an eldar
atomic pelican
Eldrad is cool but he keeps getting murdered
storm jungle
LUL
final spruce
He does get killed by anything
atomic pelican
Ulthwe itself isnt that interesting tbh
soft bison
She who thirsts be standing on their doorstep with a bottle of booze and eight pounds of warpdust
final spruce
Too low numbers
atomic pelican
I think Biel Tan is my fave because they were allowed to be cool and still are, despite Gav's cullinf
errant mauve
Are Corsairs part of Craftworlds?
soft bison
My favorite eldar is macha
atomic pelican
Tfw beat 10 chapters in defense of a exodite planet
errant mauve
Eldar Corsairs are rad
atomic pelican
Nah corsairs are like rogue eldar from all sides
Corsairs consist of both asuryani and drukhari
soft bison
Like freebootaz, but less cool
odd sparrow
yee corsairs are just rando eldar who decided to leave their societies and go chase adrenaline
atomic pelican
It should be noted that eldar can change their 'faction' rarely
Corsairs are the most common exame
Harlequins 2nd, and 3rd drukhari becoming asuryani/vice versa
atomic pelican
The one I made?
final spruce
Rangers are their own favtion righr ,
atomic pelican
Nah
soft bison
They a unit
storm jungle
The one I made?
I would use that but I lost it in my fucking files DFSKJFDS
final spruce
I think tjey were somejing like they left their craftworkd
atomic pelican
Rangers are CWE by technicality
Yes.
They still have some allegience usually
And work as scouts or such
They are like wild kids
Rangers are also technicslly on a path
Path of the Outcast
soft bison
Being eldar, it’s vague and noncommittal
errant mauve
Red Corsairs are the coolest pirate faction though
Eldar and Freebootaz will have to settle for 2nd place
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- Aeldari
- Exodites
- [REDACTED]
- Asuryani
- Corsairs
- Outcasts
- Drukhari
- Harlequins
- Ynnari
final spruce
I stimm feel sory for eldar lovers
storm jungle
because dramatic
storm jungle
also man john blance eldar are bowie af
atomic pelican
Its okay. Drukhari beefness is a good sign
final spruce
Like the main guard author abneyt likes eldar
atomic pelican
O lorewise yee
final spruce
Meanxhile gav shits on eldar on breakfast
storm jungle
Abnett cant write aliens if his life depended on it tho
soft bison
Guard boi guard boi guard boi
final spruce
Abnett cant write aliens if his life depended on it tho
And thats fkne
Because he is a damn good human writer if you forget blank stuff
soft bison
No
final spruce
Ok boomer
soft bison
No
visual pumice
hoomans are smelly
soft bison
Shut
soft bison
Humans cool
visual pumice
false
soft bison
Guardsmen are solidly based
storm jungle
peak hamlet
hoomans are smelly
B.. But ur hoomam too
visual pumice
yes
atomic pelican
Maybe u
storm jungle
but I just had a shower 5m ago so im not smelly for the time being
final spruce
You think so
storm jungle
no
soft bison
I haven’t read as much as I should have anyway
atomic pelican
Thrilling
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u l t r a m a r i n i
atomic pelican
U must remember that for every Cain or Eisehorn there's 50+ dime novel mahren books
atomic pelican
Ye this is more a condemnation of black library
errant mauve
"Why do you judge lore holistically"
storm jungle
since they get the most novels
soft bison
Infinite and the divine
storm jungle
Necrons are on a good run though, with uh... 2 stories
Severed is also good
beyond that
nothing
soft bison
There is hope
peak hamlet
B.. But hoomans protagonist in 40k 😭
peak hamlet
No crinbge eldor in muh grimdork 40k
errant mauve
Instead focusing on writing novels GW should just revive the IA campaign books. More lore and much higher quality stuff than the schlock Black Library pumps out.
atomic pelican
Honestly yeah
errant mauve
And new rules 👀
soft bison
I want a nice series of necron books
atomic pelican
Codex lore (and rules) ade better than most books
peak hamlet
The orks are fucking stupid, if they like fighting so much why dont they just ffa each other?
storm jungle
Codex lore (and rules) ade better than most books <:omegalul:719485528092966932>
God Im legit scared for the eldar codex
soft bison
Where they beat the ass of some poor mechanicus bois for stepping on their black stone grass alternative
errant mauve
Codex lore (and rules) ade better than most books <:omegalul:719485528092966932>
It's true.
atomic pelican
Idc abt new lore rlly, their rules just have to beat ass
Also I believe the drukhari one got new fluff
A bit
atomic pelican
Codex lore is p much just summaries so
storm jungle
yeah but its information we know
i mean like
vect did a lot of power moves last codex
now we get no mention of it
odd sparrow
The orks are fucking stupid, if they like fighting so much why dont they just ff...
they do
errant mauve
Part of the reason why the IA were so high quality was because it was written by Bligh and Kinrade, who both were incredibly specific with the lore and tried hold an objective standard to it.
Instead of C.S "Eldar tanks lose to rocks" Goto
storm jungle
I hope this eldar codex has more excerpts of other factions abusing them though, that one admech one is a classic™️
errant mauve
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death
peak hamlet
>90% recylced lore
Man i once read a harlequin short story and it was awful. Like really terrible written. I hated it. Please back library, write good harlequin stories, they are my favourite eldar fraction thingy
atomic pelican
I have to read the actual harlequin books at some point
I believe they feature motley who is a automatic boon
storm jungle
Motley is only in the dark eldar trilogy iirc
atomic pelican
Nah hes in the harle books too I think I read in a summary
storm jungle
the biggest sexual tension in any book i read when it came to him and Morr tho ngl
peak hamlet
Some mine workers who found harlequin masks and got butchered afterwards i think
atomic pelican
I thonk hes the main char
storm jungle
Time to look up the lexi
peak hamlet
It was written too poorly to really get an idea of what was going on
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1: Path of the Renegade
2: Path of the Incubus
3: The Masque of Vyle
atomic pelican
My general plan rn is to read the rest of path of the eldar, then dark eldar, then harlequins
storm jungle
Harlequins sad got nothing
atomic pelican
Then finish gav quest by reading the ynnari books
storm jungle
just some audio dramas
also thats a noble goal onut
the ynnari one is gonna kill you i think
its a hard journey but you can make it
🫂
atomic pelican
Masque of Vyle is a book, no?
atomic pelican
Lemme find it
It is written by the same guy that wrote the drukhari books
Good sign
storm jungle
An excellent sign at that yeee
I think z-library also has it so you know what to do onut
atomic pelican
Its like 188 pages on my phone
storm jungle
Also damn that many? GW short stories like
tend to be 20 pages
so thats impressive
storm jungle
Eyy thats good
gaunt vector
that same battle also happens in the Path of the Outcast but from a different perspective
atomic pelican
Ye the same battle happens in the 3 boojs
gaunt vector
idk if it happens in path of the warrior
atomic pelican
They are concurrent
gaunt vector
oh ok
atomic pelican
It does
atomic pelican
But Korlandril gets KO'd in the middle of it
He was sneaking into the backfied to kill the warboss
gaunt vector
that was the Scorpion guy wasn't it
atomic pelican
He got owned but the other scorpions killed the warboss
gaunt vector
yeah it was
gaunt vector
I always just think of him as "Adrian"
because if I wanted to make an Eldar whose name was not Adiran
then i would get Aradryan
atomic pelican
Path of the Seer is rlly cool
Theres a part where daemons disguise as a friend of Thirianna's to try to get her to put on golden shackles disguised as a bracelet im the webway
While her mind is in the Skein
Fortunately they made the mistake of disguising as korlandril
gaunt vector
lmao
what u mean u no like my art Adrian! Ima go stab ork
btw I still haven't finished the path of the outcast which dilly didn't link a pdf to
neat fiber
Question The shoulder pads for space marine armor are bolted in or something like that yes?
neat fiber
I forgot the guys name whos in the back with the wings?
cursive hull
Lord Solar Mecharius, I believe
cloud kindle
^
cursive hull
Question The shoulder pads for space marine armor are bolted in or something lik...
Also, yeah, basically? They can raise and lower depending on where SM is looking. They are affixed to the armor very well but can be removed for maintenance.
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||Millions of Guardsmen were put to death to hide the existence of Chaos. Space Marines and Sisters of Battle were captured and put through hyposanctified deconditioning. Entire cohorts of Skitarii were forced into neuroformating, and the tech-magi that resisted were exterminated. The Imperials soldiers and warriors that won back the system with their sacrifice and valor cried out in outrage at this injustice, but this did nothing stop the sword of the Ordos Malleus from falling on their necks.||
?????
peak hamlet
But dilly how can the imperium be edgy otherwise?
storm jungle
aaaaaa
But its really funny tbh, I guess that big ass Rift cutting the galaxy in half is just bad weather
dim totem
In my headcanon it's like
Depending on where you 1re in the galaxy
Some random guardsman might never even have heard of the rift
Suddenly being confronted by it wouldn't be great
dim totem
Like say
You is a regular soldier man and you see something you really really really weren't supposed to see
Probably not great
And it's probably best for everybody's snity if as few people as possible have active knowledge bout the rift
Then again how that's represented in novels might differ
storm jungle
But its a lot more understandable when it was something like Armageddon. At least there its just one planet and a few surrounding ones
Compared to the likes of an entire sector filled with regular humans
Instead of just putting god knows how many marines and sisters on mindwipe chairs considering they actively fight demons all the time
dim totem
I think there are probably like
People designated to deal with that kind of stuff, no?
storm jungle
Yeah but its still really stupid
errant mauve
> ||Millions of Guardsmen were put to death to hide the existence of Chaos. Spac...
Based and inefficiency pilled
cursive hull
I know the Ad Mech probably just did it because the Inquisitors were being really shitty about it.
But I feel like they still could have told them to go fuck themselves.
"Reformat your Skitarii and Tech Magi!"
"No."
"We'll [redacted] you!"
"And how about I revoke your access to all privileges and perks of the Adeptus Mechanicus, now fuck off."
errant mauve
The Inquisition has a hearty catalogue of scrapcodr doesn't it?
"Reformat or we'll make Metallica look like a fucking joke"
cursive hull
I mean...
Then everyone loses?
That'd literally kill the entire Imperium overnight.
Like, the Dark Mechanicum departing for the Eye was bad enough.
The Age of Strife fucked everything to begin with.
So scrapcoding the remaining databases of the Ad Mech would basically destroy all retained human knowledge not written in a book somewhere?
errant mauve
Is the Inquisition an organization to care about efficiency? These are the guys who had a civil war over a calendar. I'm sure sending a couple forgeeorlds scrapcodr is not outside their "possible options" folder.
cursive hull
There are times when I wonder why anyone lets the Inquisition exist.
Legit.
If the Inquisition can or would destroy the thing they are supposed to protect, they aren't worth the effort anymore.
It does make the good inquisitors shine a lot brighter but damn.
errant mauve
Not like it'll somehow affect the entirety of the Admech, those guys keep their enemies close and their STCs even closer. The Inquisition logic is probably that it's better to let a couple worlds die than even risk the chance of something bad happening.
Which uh... almost makes sense if you turn off your brain?
cloud kindle
i know its a meme but the inquisition doesnt just go around exterminatusing everything
there is investigations after the fact and if it was found out to be unwarranted that inquisitor is fucked
of course there are those that break that rule cause of course its 40k
looks at kryptman
cursive hull
Oh.
No.
I'm pretty sure Kryptman was reviled after what he did and is still considered a massive shit to this day.
Like
errant mauve
I never claimed they did. But the Inquisition itself does often do things that are overall counterintuitive to their goal. Months of Shame comes to mind.
cursive hull
He only got off extremely lightly in that he wasn't murdered so hard that every piece of evidence he once existed would cease to be.
errant mauve
The fact it also took the wanton slaughter of not 1 but multiple words to even give Kryptman a bad reputation do be saying something about Puritan Inquisitorial standards.
atomic pelican
Rip metallica then
storm jungle
Owned™️
atomic pelican
Deathguard win cool tho
storm jungle
ımperials losing really shocked me
peak hamlet
Wait what death guard won?
atomic pelican
Yee
peak hamlet
Were there ultramarines present?
atomic pelican
Lmai
Metalica got their core infected and their fab general got turned into a meat pile
odd sparrow
f
storm jungle
https://www.reddit.com/r/ShaskaisWarhamBits/comments/owrx5j/summary_of_charadon_...
@peak hamlet Here hobo, Characadabadon Summary
atomic pelican
Deathguard 🤝 The Bladed Cog
Mutilating a fabricator general
tender igloo
nice to see chaos score a victory
peak hamlet
<@!598076731039023104> Here hobo, Characadabadon Summary
Missed it somehow, thx!
storm jungle
atomic pelican
Inquisition killed 6 gajillion imperials because they glimpsed a csm buttplate
storm jungle
Not the Sisters or Marines tho, they get reconditioned because they're special
Sorry about the guard tho
now face the wall
atomic pelican
Skeles gonna have a conniption at this cringe
storm jungle
I hope he doesnt but