#40k-lore-chat
1 messages ยท Page 1911 of 1
GW so original
What reboot
wasnt there osmething on the horizon? or am i just going to be disappointed
Time to make my own version of the Sassanids in AoS I suppose
lemme just mix the iberian wars with the crusades cus we dont really have a levant for them to fight in
I mean they're bringing back old world yes
Old World isnt rlly a reboot in the sense u are thinking probs
ah hm
But it's going to take place way before the original time period portrayed by tww
maybe old world will be a bit more focused then
old world will probably tackle cathay, i expect that CA and GW are working p closely together on it
Old world is gonna be a test, if it is successful then they will expand
End Times will still be canon basically
Old World seems to be focused around the area around the empire and bretonnia
Yeah a reboot of warhammer fantasy is planned, called: the old world (or something)
it's not a reboot
ok ill refer to it as old world then, excuse the confusion
Its gonna be a 30k game to ream old heads lmao
Kinda
Yeah it's like, a side game set in WHFBโข๏ธ
it's just them bringing back that universe and setting it during the time of the Great War Against Chaos
Like HH
It's like horus heresy
im just eager to see some more medieval human models i can reappropriate for a 40k kitbash
and maybe even build some proper medieval ones for rpg campaigns
If u want empire models those still exist
I just hope they wont make some generic fantasy shit
i still find it annoying that people are still going "aos is getting squatted because old world is coming back"
Green army men
It'll be warhammer fantasy so just
Delusion
yus but i like the gw vibe
Wait what? Some ppl think that?
Kislev's updates are a good guide
Yes
do they tho
Not at all lmao
Especially back when the announcement was made
aos isn't going anywhere
We had one
WHF oldheads like ugly models so I imagine no one will like Old World
Lmfao
Kislev's ice guard and such
i like the squat built old models
but i can adapt to new things
Are too pretty
Aos is kinda generic fantasy, the empite was heavily based off 16th century hre
The aos haters originally went "ah yes old world is gw crawling back to us and admitting aos is a failure" because they're delusional
Wat
Calling aos generic compared to WHF which is literally a direct rip for most of its stuff
Same folks that burned their models drooling to get back in the game
It's just gonna be whfb set in an earlier time period
with a lower model count probably
God
there are so many ppl like that
cough
arch
cough
A lot of them are larping that position tho, having gotten into it after end times
Because most ppl whining never will, or have, actually touched tabletop of any kind. Whf or otherwise
It is an architectural thing
I never saw a fantasy genre with reasonable gunpowder weapons and a 16th century aestetic yet but go ahead, prove me wrong
i think hobo isnt trying to put down aos, hobo just really really likes that 16th century stuff, correct?
He's arguing that wfb can't be generic cuz if that
U said warhammer is generic fantasy(?)
Hobo has a very particular obsession and will freak it over Muh 16th century
no i didn't
And no thst was me
and i mean it's fair, no reason to hate on hobo
Because it is.
you like what you like
(?)
I said "it'll be warhammer fantasy so just expect updated versions of what they had"
For the most part, ripped from other sources
scroll down
Oof took that wrong then
I mean I guess they'll have empire handgunners
Nah i dont hate aos
They might not because it takes place like 200-300 years before contemporary whfb did
Maybe. Might just be crossbows?
they'll definitely have cannons and shit tho
that's true though
i didn't think of that
i was half expecting the whf we had with some lines redrawn and some updated models
So, Hobo, just hope if they do any actual refreshes, they take that into account.
Like they won't have empire wizards since those don't exist until after the Great War against Chaos and this looks like it'll have a narrative leading up to the Great War against Chaos
Yep
I mean whf doesn't really evolve anyway, irl full plate armor was around for 300/400 years but in whf every fraction is just stuck in their current state with very little improvement
i don't know what to make of that
Empire wizards didn't become a thing until Magnus the Pious saw Teclis and went "hm, magic seems neat actually. We should have a magic school, please teach our local hedge wizards we persecute to do proper magic teclis"
I did hear a rumor that they are gonna do a refresh on the old empire models this year
cities of sigmar update? that could mean a lot of things though, no?
They will probs do away with the old empire iconography
Freeguilds are a pretty big part of CoS so
I imagine Dawnbringer Crusades will be what takes CoS from a repository of surviving whfb models to something more specific to aos
don't like that idea very much but i see how that could happen
The rumor I heard was it was gonna be freeguilds focused
Im very hyped for Dawnbringer crusades
i mean im kinda hoping they keep the empire aesthetics
I rlly like CoS but they need AoS new models
(and please add some brettonnia related stuff)
Oh they'll definitely focus on the shooty shooty if there's a human focus
I hope we get new artillery pieces
Ever heard of Greywater Fastness?
Man cos updates would be neat
Plastic cannons and rocket batteries pls
wait those arent plastic?
I hope for AoS to get their full roster out first
i got some uh
Im actually unsure, but they are very old
VERY industrial
And then work their way back through CoS
So I imagine any human model updates will have them still have gunpowder weapons and whatnot
And even if its just remakes of the old empire minis used, they play a really huge part but the minis are old and a little ugly by now
Hell I wouldn't be surprised if we saw handgunners with like
Breech-loaded rifles or something
Yes
oh ok good
It would also be neat to see some helf and dwarf models updated for CoS
so is the concencus the cos update will pull humies away from the empire esthetic?
concensus
i don't know how you spell that word
I heard that they also will roll all the dwarves into one book
We just think theyll get updates
Magnus the pious was an huge user of gunpowder weapons, so they will have them in the old world, the fact that there will be no empire magic is good imo
I dont know either ๐
Deepkin are at present what I like best with the new stuff
I dont think theyll roll dwarves together, but Fyreslayers need something to happen
Theyre kind of lacking in model diversity
Theres only so far you can go on Slayers
it's consensus
i have to say
i really like the aos dwarfs
you could use them as substitutes in a sci fi setting
if only they had some more cables here and there
What's the over-under on Chaos Dwarfs in AoS?
The rumor right now is that
According to leaks, chaos dwarfs will be one of ths faction releases this edition. Getting rid of their FW crap rules
And theyll be rlly big to the plot
Ah, so nothing has changed so far as the last thing I remember hearing of Chaos Dwarfs
Dayum ๐ณ
The leak explained why but I wont spoil unless wanted
They exist but bc FW they will never take center stage
The faction releases for 3e are supposedly, Dawnbringer Crusades(confirmed), Umbraneth, and Chaos dwarfs
Chaos dwarfs look great! I love the dude on the giantic fure bull thingy
Hadn't heard that
Fw chaos dwars are just perfection
They do be having the best looking artillery ๐ณ
the only chaos dwarf leak I heard, was when the new swampy bois were shown, and they had armour plated given by their "masters" I think
They very well may get something at some point in a couple years, lorewise grungni is hidden away in his forge working on something for his kids
They also took down chwarfs FW stuff so it matches up
Chaos Dwarves at times made me think of old Mesopotamia with the choice of beards and fancy hats, even if only vaguely
I think thst turned out to be the Thunderstrike armor?
Unless hes working on more
It was explicitly said to be for the dwarves tho iirc
Ahh
Maybe a retcon, idk
Chaos Dwarves are based and Akkadianpilled
yes, this!
i love those beards
I mean he helped make stormcast so they kinda his kids too
He also saved Morathi which is kind of hilarious
Chaos Dwarves are best dwarves
his little drum 
bang bang bang
Lil drummer boi?
I spy the Elf enjoyer typing
Cmon ingerland
Grungni took custody of the kids after it was discovered that Sigmar was forcing them to engage in the sigma grindset
First he bang the drum. Then he bang ur mum.
what do you mean skele?
A gem that should not go unacknowledged. ๐ฌ๐ง
But yes im very hype for Chaos dwarfs actual release
Same
Their FW rules were quite possibly the worst rules in AoS
Even worse than ghe legacy rules for WHF factions
I like Ogors but they won't get any new models for the near future ๐
I can finally find an excuse to buy recasts of the Death Trains
How do you improve upon perfection
They got that tyrant model that was baller
I do love me some Dreadquake Mortars
But yeah in srsness I'd love new Leadbelchers
But true
Leadbelchers or Ironguts would be ๐
I'd love more Ironjaws
Or a named character
but it looks like the new orcs got everything I wanted for them, so...
they rip off mesopotamia at every opportunity and we love them for it
yus

Cool russ gonna come back ๐
Fenris was rather low in temperature indeed 
Wolftime happens and Khan shows up instead
Wait Russ is coming back? Aaaa
Hawktime
If Russ comes back I hope it's as something horribly mutated by the warp or as a wulfen.
He comes back as a regular puppy
Good opinion spotted 
The book is called wolftime and Russ is supposed to return when that happens
Also acceptable 
I really doubt they'd have Russ reappear without making a big fuss though.
Yee we shall c
It would be the Black Library that called wolf
honestly
they should just
kill off all the primarchs for good
and custodes while they are at it
No, custodes stay
Custodes more like CustoWNED
The best
Custodes are loyalist SM with somehow even less flavour
the original primaris
Custodes aren't marines by any stretch
Yeah they're even more 1 dimensional

They have some good models but that's about it.
they are the power fantasy side of SM scalled to 11
and thats the most boring part of SM
Custodes don't even need a codex to be good
That really says something about the intelligence Custodes players rather than the coolness of Custodes.
Thats a compliment
Custodes fans take having completely overstatted units as a compliment.
Well, I suppose that's something.
They got it hard in 8, let them have their fun in 9th
I hope Russ comes back, does something stupid, and dies/sent into the warp because of it
i hope he doesnt
It'd be both in character and hilarious
The price we pay
My boy Ghaz is a sayan
Certified Leman moment
you can do that without going "and 6 primaris space wolves defeat the entire ork waaagh"
What level of saiyan is ghaz on
Vegeta to Ragnar's Goku
Dunno I haven't watched Dragon Ball Z since Kid Buu when I was a kid

Primaris Space Wolf = Double the plot armour
Every adjective adds a new layer
SW have plot armour almost as thick as their skulls
Ultrmaris marines just have primarch statlines with a 2++ and 2+++
This just reminded me that bastilladons have a 1+ save and work in some weird way that I cant remember
Mayb
Niether
Bastilidons have a +1 save which means they cannot be rended (apthough that might've changed with 3rd ed)
Custodes just get +1 to their invulnerable save to a max of +3
So they ignore ap -1?
Or am I confusing something
They cannot be rended
Rend is ap
At all
1 natural is an auto fail no matter what
But otherwise is passes on a +1
And you can't modify a roll to go below 1 on a die
So effecfively its a 2+ invuln?
Ye
Ah oki
Until you bracket it
Lizardmen moment
Choktok moment
Imagine being a stormcast and you get clubbed by a ogor. Your soul is about to zip away
Then he grsbs your fucking soul and eats you
Because apparently ogors can do that
Yet again proving that being hungwy is truly the most potent magic
I like and play both
All my homies get around the mawpot
Im late but
cant wait for people to complain theres "black people" on fenris
when one of the continents in it that gets more sunlight literally mentioned them like 3 years ago
Good heavens
Sadly we do'nt have medic to bait them
I mean it was extremely funny
As far as I know, even Medic won't get into race science and phrenology
The guy was leaning hard on Medic's support
Until the black Dark Angel Chapter master pic
And then the guy had a brain shutdown
Yeah I don't think medic is SUS in that way, just that he happened to agree with everything else with those ppl
It was glorious
Yeah medic is just a prick about lore
What being a warhammer fan does to a mf
I assume he's a prick about a great many things too, but for our purposes, this will do
I guess its your turn to quit the server Skely
i need to spend a month argueing with everyone and blaming everything except my poor views
then i can leave
In summary
Have the blank for any clown that joins us in the future
Oh I hadn't looked at the cover
Its a good cover
Time to fight off people who think its glory signaling again
Also Ben i forgot to respond earlier
Oh hi
but im pretty sure the title is like uh
just a tease for russ
im betting 5 bucks the ending is just gonna be "oh god russ is coming lads we got a signal"
Probably
can i get that 5 bucks if it isnt?
no
๐ฆ

f
kinda rude tbh
otherwise its just shit title'ing
i could get a comfy latte with that
here go
oh no
amazing lmao
fear the green
Why is there a krieger on this meme
I failed u all
GW retconning our lore
Didn't you hear Kriegers can't use shovels in combat
truly unprecedented
Shovels made out of medal
Lol
UwU
Smh the nitro bourgeoisie have another tool to lord their wealth over us
Hahahaha
*Gaunt turned to face the tunnel they were hurtling into. He opened his belt pouch and pulled out a
fresh drum-pattern magazine for his bolt pistol. The sixty round capacity clip was marked with a blue
cross to indicate the inferno rounds it held. *
Boy do I wish I had that for the tabletop
thats hot
That'd be a really cool artifact for guard
sixty rounds!?
ye
It is a drum
drum
Drum mag baby
bolts r big tho
I'm having a mild stroke at them using magazine, clip, and drum in the span of two sentences but oh well
I find the drum mag in a pistol to be funny though, ngl
It's a drum mag, so of course it's round
But heh, its not the most egregious thing to lose sleep over
iirc, 0.75 is sorta comparable to a shotgun slug, and those used by others are a typically smaller round, but it doesn't really matter
pistols can have drum mags
They can
ever seen a makarov with a drum?
Of course they can, but that must be one big fucking drum
Makarov with drum mags is beyond silly
Fucking Tarkov Moment

Tarkov-pilled
based and tarkov-pilled
Mashallah, got to it before I did
Ive shot a Makarov, not a fan personally but I like them better than Glocks
40k tarkov-like when
That seems to be a recurring pattern, preferring everything over a glock
That's certainly one way of putting it
glock glock glock
i thought about this a bit, the only fitting units seem like tempestus?
i just dont really see the detailed gunplay synergizing well with 40k stuff
Honestly depends how they are doing it
Tempestus, standard guard or inquisitor retinue
depending on what regiments n shit they choose for the setup theres some cool flex to weapon customisation
or even just playing as a ganger crawling through the underhive
ye was great
the thing is i just dont see that gunplay mesh with like
bolter pistols
maybe its just bias
having run only war n stuff theres wiggle room to make it tactical. boltguns are deadly af yeah, but so are semi auto 50cal rifles in tarkov
same downside of weight, recoil and expense
true but i dont have 50cal rifles
so maybe thats why i feel that way
i like my little smg's man
but yeah i guess it could happen
though honestly i doubt james is gonna find a dev with the same edge battlestate has
i dont think it will just cause its 2 very niche ideas
doesnt have a large audience
but
i love the idea
Same
its the audio design man
i really dont know
sells it
it's so fucking good
the sheer tension when you spot a guy that spotted you also
every gunfight is memorable
yup
The stress (tm)
I've just been living on hunt, waiting to see if tarkov eventually comes to steam
no big surprise if it doesnt
Lov this dudes art so much
trust me i never do
i saw his stuff on reddit, no? real good
one of my first games i got shot in the chest with a shotgun from across the room, dropped the other guy but obviously havn't got a lot of time, stumbled into the bathroom with the videogame logic of finding med stuff, nope
Haha
stumbled out into the parking lot, crossed the street, found some tents i thought i'd pass through on my way out, maybe i'd get lucky and find something
Imagine thinking you find loot in tarkov lmao
My first raid i went in at night on accident
Was super sneaking and saw a shadow with a green glow round its face, realized it was nvgs and made him eat my 762
the first time i found a body to loot i cowered behind a port a potty for a few minutes first
the spookiest shit
is playing a night run
and just
a flashlight flicks past you
oh man
i was thinking id get swat 3 for a similar kinda vibe
i mean i have it at my parents house on a cd somewhere but i might as well get it from gog
are yall getting Warhammer plus?
Considering it, its better than 60 bucks for disney
Im more in it for the black library accesss
considering it too
Might get it. 5 bucks per month is probably something my dad'll agree on.
Dilara's here for the booty, and only the booty
โAs long-time Warhammer fans, weโre very excited to combine our passion for the Warhammer hobby with our experience in CGI. It was a surreal feeling when Games Workshop approached us. It brings a lot of new possibilities, and we canโt wait to deliver this story of Iron Warriors and Drukhari to the community!โ
Cant wait to see drukhari
in animation
fingers crossed on the quality
I have to say
Still deeply upset over what happened with the Iron Warriors animation.
Iron warriors was supposed to be Horus heresy i believe
Yeah seeing animation during Horus Hersey would of been really cool
Now it's just some generic story about Guardsmen facing off the Iron Warriors where it doesn't even follow the perspective of the Iron Warriors anymore or something.
Like why even call it Iron Within anymore?
is iron within the one that's going to feature Drukhari?
I actively use azyr so I will probably sub for the AoS app anyways
I don't remember or think it would, I was too dismayed after finding out about what become of Iron Within to follow up on any news about it.
It was a tale most tragic.
Yo Guard beating up Iron Warriors sign me up
u mean guard getting slaughtered
This would be its only saving grace, but I doubt it because the Guard are cast as the protagonists here
Yea im so mad bout that
Lets take this interesting story with villains to be grappling with how they are perceived by the imperium and make it standard imperium wank
warhammer animators know only imperium wank
flashbacks to space marines surviving direct blast from a lascannon
Iron Within promised something more, so that's entirely on GW's conscience
I wont be surprised if this is what happens lol
But, here's hoping Exodite delivers on some of its promises between Aeldari and Tau making an appearance
Unless that changed too and I completely glossed that over.
Iron within? More like iron without amirite fellas
I mean
i dont want to be so negative
but would a GW team completely flip a script?
Look, I have no real room for optimism on the matter, at this point I'm just hoping against hope.
They upended a script to make it into more Imperial wank, so it wouldn't surprise me, but the alternative is that they choose to be lazy.
But something tells me they can't leave well enough alone.
The exodite team is hopefully more rigid on their vision, using non modern tau suits prolly means they have a story but we shall see
Lets hope we dont get another sodaz treatment
Forget when it happened, but it did
Yup
Damn
A bunch of the comments on his community posts ammounted to something like "sold your soul to GW"
Almost like those are opinions held by different people
Very few people have actually said both of those things lol
Well i never heard a "hope gw doesn't hire this guy" before
I just don't put it past them to move goalposts like that is all
I certainly thought it tbh
"I hope they don't hire them" is just a continuation of "I hope gw don't c&d them"
The translation is: GW keep your grubby mitts off this cool thing
Basically "hired" but also had every single one of his 40k vids deleted. As chapin said above it was basically a cease and desist as well since even the little stuff like 30 second warhammer test animations were removed
which is really weird
why not just make him remove the big animation stuff instead?
Dang
The only boon out of it is having more resources to back them, and even then, they each had an active community
So, coupled with stuff like what happened with Sodaz, its not a good look
Yeah i got nothing against them being hired but like
DONT GET ME STARTED
Yeah im not a huge fan of removing some smaller stuff, good thing is at least it will (or at least the quality stuff) be available on warhammer+ (which im probably going to pirate plus the good vids are still on yt anyway (reuploads tho)
Medic moment
Oh god, whatโs going on here?
Lamscamnnon
I really like that we get some quality free stuff from gw from time to time tho
oh 100% not gonna shit on the quality
fucking fantastic animations recently
i just have gripes about the astartes animation people dont like me voicing

Dilly mad ๐
Great scene, but yeah, that should have not been as pretty a scene for the dude as we got
Understandable tho
nyooooooom
lmao
Yeah like didn't even left a scratch
They did, just not big enough lmfao
Astartes pattern anodizing
No scratch kontos ๐ณ
Kontos was talking about the multilas i think
Yeeeee
where he just has the pockmarks
Oh right
The battery was really low
I think the rest of the team had more on them after that too, but ye
It's fine
Kinda at least
If it was a full fat lascannon as is, I'd have been more upset
I mean
But I mean
have you guys seen custodes terminators
i dont want too
where it says they can survive MACRO CANNON shells
Yeah a lascannon should have obliterated him
Pls no.
Wut
yeah i hate it
Also if u look
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
i hate custodes
custodes are actually cringe
they read like fanfiction
This 100%
That marine has a huge chunk missing from his pauldron later
thats the guy who gets multi las-d
How should one survive a shell, fired from a gun the size of a hab block???
Gold

can we just
Nope ill find it its different. Ones pockmarked, the other has a bit missing and nothin else
I thank thee
Batista bomb custodes into a dumpster
I'm almost certain someone was just like "this is totally just a bigger calibre of autocannon shell"
BUT
๐ Its absolutely this
They also have a bunch of the most insultingly bad writers on them too.
its because right
Definitely the creative team who do any of the Custodes rules and lore
custodes have the primaris/primarch problem
Blapped
Oh neat
Yea
Lolol
But to be fair thats not what it should look like
Yea its not enough but
It's plot armor, not plot paint
Its atleast remembered lol
I mean it should go deep not wide
SM are "one is so strong they can take on a squad of guard"
and custodes are that ramped up
"1 custodes can take on a chapter of SM"
Since autocannon shells dont explode afaik
Primaris Custodes when
I think the sergeant had the black chevrons on him(?)
So that would technically be another dude, but still
Moar damage
Could have accidentally grabbed the HE belt/s
Custodes are boring. They are like this kindergarden "this is stronger!" "no this is stronger"
Guys come on, the gun that hit him was clearly a so and so model, but the armor of the Primaris marine was a so and so, which is totally over powered and breaking the setting, theyโre turning all the Astartes into Primaris just like all guards are becoming Cadians, also @storm jungle the Elves are the worst faction ever
He autocannon i need ๐ณ
Yea this is the dude who takes the shell impact in the corridor
"I shot you with a macro cannon"
"Yeah well it bounced off my armor"
You didn't have to go that hard.
100% this
another dumb point
AAA MEDIC PLS
custodes dont reload
also i hate it since I never mention eldar for like a month
and he just tells me they suck for no reason

Don't they like, throw it to a serf who reload them for the Custodian?

How dare you bait me?!
lmao dilara
the serfs carry backup spears
dont ask how the serfs survive on a battlefield that requires custodes
Essentially the same
just accept it
God i hate that
I don't accept it, but sure.
Has he said anything objectionable again?
No, Iโm just being a shit-head
Like good luck buddy i dont see any spare ammo on you
I'll be one right alongside you if Medic flares up again.
Solidarity
Itโs about Family
The reason i got into IW cause their primarch seems to be the only one with enough ammo for a 40k style battle
Everyone else running around with like 1 mag
You're a true nerd, cryptid, you're simply built different, and I love u for it.
its so fucking dumb tho
"we are going to execute you because this planet you havent been too yet rebelled"
Yea
Yeah but its marines getting bodied
it only exists to confirm that custodes still beat primaris
its nothing special

its so baaaad
Oh ur chapter has been declared heretical for no reasons. The SM getting bodied is funny but still bad writing
u get this and I get to see the Tau fail and lose ground. deal?
Just wish it wasnt imperials doing it
Always have been haha
this story doesn't exist to be a good story. It is only there to say "custodes will win 1v1 against primaris"
also to be fair
Let the Tau loosen a volley before you gently let them out into that good night
psychic awakening was just trash in general
And to show off that sweet piece of SoS art
i forgot it exists
I just don't like the Tau
I'm not trying to make a unique statement there
*all of it misses cause bs4+
Unleash the rage. Seek. kill
Im memeing on u my friend
I have unique qualities and I have common qualities. not liking tau is one of my more common features
Self aware boi
yee
The best part of PA was a barely mentioned battle between a Great Company and a Waaagh of Evil Sunz that just turned into Mad Max 40k
Sorry, i should have added a /s, was being sarcastic
its fine, I didn't take offense. I knew it was sarcastic or at least light hearted when u said "I kid"
Lolol. So many people hate (im not saying u do) on the tau so fuckin hard that im a diehard fan now out of spite and spite alone
Tau to me are now a decent faction on their own
always have been smh
Honey, who hurt u?
Grimdank
What I love most about them is that they would be a big power and major faction in another universe like Mass Effect, but theyโve been dropped into the hell that is 40k
Itโs great
fair enough.
Oh yes thats why i love them
โHey guys lets just be nice!โ
incoherent heresy screaming and xeno warcries
I simply am in this setting to watch each of the races choke on their dreams.
Same for me, but watching warhammer fans instead
Thank you for adding the addendum
As a tau player i get both
Sometimes when I'm sad I look over old threads of whfb salt over end times, where people post pictures of destroyed minis and post paragraphs of rage
Lolol
have the tau had any major failiures? like losing an entire sphere of expansion permanently?
Sometimes when I'm sad, I watch Dilara's Medic video set to the Powerpuff Girls theme song
4th sphere was never fully recovered, and the loss of farsight and his boys
I know that they haven;t had anyone fall to chaos because Farshight bs's his way out of it because apparently humans are the only major race that can fall to chaos en masse
And eldar
oh ok, I assume that the 4th sphere was the damocles one?
they can engage in chaos promoting behavior but u never see "chaos eldar"
No 4th sphere was chaos fucking over all the auxillires
oh right
Isn't the fall kind of chaos-y?
Just a lil
Tiny bit of chaos
yes but they were not chaos cults with chaos units
Just a smidgen
u only get those out of humans
Just a minor miscalculoopsie
Not like humans are the primary and most numerous in the galaxy
According to phil that cant happen
and the other factions
Hate that but also it makes sense
yeah but why
No soul
its such a dumb and powerful gimmick
Or a very small one
humans also have small souls
Nope, not compared to the tau
unless u are a psyker
A lighter and a tiny ember are v different
also wouldn't etherials need larger souls to pull off their auras and bs
like when their presence drove the influence of Khorne from some tau
or can they just do big soul things with no consequences
No
like the humans and eldar have to deal with
And that was t warp stuff
so non warp stuff drove off a warp effect... got it
If u dont know when/what damocles was i dont think u should be making these assumptions about tau lore haha
oof fair enough
There are nonwarp ways to fight the warp
Yea blanks
so are etherials like blanks then?
See the whole tau v chaos thing came around when i was on break from 40k
I'm just trying to learn how tau work
I thought it was just pheromones and other things
Ethereals are sort of like their own category from what I remember, I think(?)
wut
Iโm sorry but this is one of my favorite ever images of the Tau, and the setting. Just for the novelty of a faction that has no idea about the Warp, getting demolished by Mortarion and Typhus together
Oh yea
lmao
poor blueberries
But I think there's at least one incident that an Ethereal was under the influence of Chaos
knock knock
WHOMST THE FUCK ARE THESE FLY GUT GUYS WTF
whose there
I mean, its a fine piece
Show me art of Tau winning a fight
It doesn't exist
there is actually like
then how have they expanded so much?
I think like, one or two?
They havent
ugh why
Too many donuts
Yes
Like the one of a Tau approaching a terrified guardsman
for a race that is only just starting they have been expanding a lot as far as i know
I like it
They exist in a very small cluster of stars like a nebula, they barely reach Ultramar in scale
they probably show tau winning against IG
Ok that art is pretty sweet

apply plasma to antivaxxers
After what looked to have been a battle with them
I have always had trouble figuring out how big they are
~it's inconsistent~
based on the maps that i have seen
GW does not understand scale
of course it is
but i prefer the interpretation that it's a couple hundred worlds now
a few things state its in the low dozens lmao
Lemme grab the map 1 sec
GW can't count
fuckers makin me boot my pc
numbers hurt my brain too so i can respect it
I want an edit of some random passages with lots of dumb numbers, where they're all replaced with "a lot"
same
I think on average GW can add a zero or three on any given engagement and it might be more like what they actually picture
Like with Armageddon
welcome to
Pedantry
I mean, itd probably be more readable
a few thousand marines apparently populating a planetwide warzone
Spud marines are capable of budding rapidly
Wait, it's all orkz
Oops, all orkz
always has been
yeah ikr. marine numbers, even if u go with the higher end interpretations of SM power have never made that much sense to me. one chaper of 1000 lads is not covering an entire planet
that cluster of orange bottom mid right
The chonky map
thats the tau
oh ok. thanks for the clarity
considering that the imperium is meant to have 1000000~ planets like
yea
Didn't Armageddon involve at its height, like bordering on 50,000 marines?
the writers stating that the tau have like 30 planets is a Vibeโข๏ธ
they look about 2 hive fleets away from getting tabled
gw is bad at numbers okay
Vraks numbers are pathetic unless you add another 0 to them
thats the joy, always on the backfoot, with a big enough gun to keep stable
yes it is
A million worlds is fine
I think its undersells the number of worlds that all the various races and each of them could have populated (post terraforming or whatever anyway)
It's just that their military numbers are all off
But yeah
from any faction's perspective they will always feel like they are on the back foot
I don't really mind just the 1,000,000 worlds thing that much
nah me neither, it's just dumb that the tau are meant to have so few compared to that when they occupy like
a fairly substantial slice of space
Armageddon and Vraks casualty numbers are less than ww2 despite vraks lasting like...14 years and apparently being one of the bloodiest wars in recent history (minus armageddon and cadia and whatnot)
oof
Like thats exactly what I mean
That's the secondary point
1 million human worlds is fine
would not make a lot of sense
ppl trying to map out 40ks galaxy does tend to create the interesting vibe with like, lowkey the imperium seems to control relatively little of the galaxy lol
Especially when you remember that orks are everywhere and outnumber humans at least 10:1
compared to how it is supposed to behave
also its important to remember the imperium LOSES and GAINS planets daily
its a limbo
when orks and necrons collectively control like 1/5 of it
The Tau have alot more control over their very small area than the imperium does over its massive amount
It would be very thin, which sounds consistent, and the Imperium is constantly in flux and wanes too
Yeah the tau are doing the total war style of conquering, they basicalyl reinforce every world they come across
u can make up whatever explanation u want for the planet number, a million is p reasonable imo. like
after age of strife and the horus heresy, thers prolly less controlled planets but a LOT of human populated worlds
I think so too, I take little issue with a million, be it the literal or metaphorical number
That and, volume of space doesn't really matter much if you can build incredibly dense. Esp when you have stuff like kor'vessa orbital cities
I think those are usually the areas claimed/ under threat by various factions, not solidly under control. the necrons and the orks have about 1/5 each but those two overlap
considering only however many will be habitable in the first place, terraforming is a factor or at least was for DAoT humies, x number of planets could've been destroyed by Angy Robotsโข๏ธ or whatever you want
Also the eastern edge of the galaxy, a substantial part of the galaxy east of the tau, is entirely uninhabited by the Imperium (probably has non Imperial human populations tho) due to the Astronomican not stretching that far
u can basically scale it however u want
Yeah its left up in the air
also after wars with star killers and stuff id imagine the galaxy is down a few planets
lmao, true
LOL
yup
Heh
so long as the scale is consistent
because all the factions are THAT destructive as said above
which it predictably isn't aa
Orks and hrud are everywhere though and humans are just blips in the sea of fucking
orks
so many orks
Its the number of participants that needs the inflation of numbers on average
The tau orb
dream house
Though tbf hrud don't have their own worlds and whatnot
the fuken wat
Didn't Armageddon say some shit like a million orks and just leave it at that?
reminds me of the battlefleet gothic trailer for tau






