So, not psykers
#40k-lore-chat
marsh grail
Were Magnus and Lorgar the only psycher primarchs?
tender igloo
i think each primarch has some kind of psychic ability
some are more subtle than others
cursive hull
Most of the Primarchs had some sort of minor psychic talent, but most of them either had one so minor or otherwise that they either never used it or never thought to do so
Konrad had horrible visions of possible branching futures which he believed to be the immediate future.
marsh grail
So none come close to the emperor’s ability
cursive hull
Closest would be Magnus, but he's pretty far off.
Yeah, Emps is the best Psyker humanity has ever seen, period.
tender igloo
if the recent book is to be believed, alpharius had the psychic ability to make other perceives him how he wanted to be seen
marsh grail
Closest would be Magnus, but he's pretty far off.
Yeah we saw that.
marsh grail
if the recent book is to be believed, alpharius had the psychic ability to make ...
As a neutral that doesn’t know who’s side they are actually on?
I am interested in the possibility they are still loyal but are just using subterfuge.
cursive hull
Far as I'm aware, Alpharius used this talent to blend in better with his sons.
tender igloo
more like he could disguise himself in the various legions
make himself appear as a normal space marine or other such things
cursive hull
it helped he was already quite short for a Primarch
tender igloo
the idea was also given that alpharius was the actual first primarch to be found and not horus
cursive hull
This is more of a theory as I understand it though.
But again
Its to stick to the Alpha Legion's whole thing.
Being mysterious and out of left field.
tender igloo
well the book starts and ends with the statment "this is a lie"
and it's the alpha legion
so take everything said about them with a huge grain of salt
i personally really like the alpharius book though
cursive hull
TBH.
I dislike the Alpha Legion when its played up too much. You can go far on subterfuge and long term planning.
But after a certain time it gets too tiring to follow.
I'm certain they're at least renegades by virtue of allegiance, if not purpose. Its easier to do the whole secret war schtick if you're not wired down to one place or faction for long.
tender igloo
simply because i do like the idea that the alpha legion really are loyalist after all
that is also true
cursive hull
Kinda why I like the Iron Warriors.
They hate everyone equally, this includes Chaos. Its a tool to them, something to be used until it has served its purpose and then be tossed aside.
Like, are the Iron Warriors evil shits? Yeah, they admit as much.
But they're assholes to everyone in reach.
It feels a great deal less personal.
Unless they're currently fighting the Imperial Fists, then it is one hundred percent personal.
tender igloo
people shit on guilliman, but i really do like his and lorgar's mutual hate of each other
cursive hull
I'd hate Lorgar too, for letting Erebus keep breathing.
median sundial
Like, are the Iron Warriors evil shits? Yeah, they admit as much.
But they're a...
Perturabo was butthurt no one respected him I think, and that spite probably carried over to his sons.
cursive hull
Pretty much?
tender igloo
perturabo really did get a raw deal
cursive hull
He wanted to do his own thing. He didn't like being a general.
He wanted to be an architect, an artist, an administrator.
He would have probably enjoyed a post crusade galaxy a great deal.
But that wasn't the role he was given to play and he was bitter for it.
tender igloo
he also hated that dorn was given so much credit while he got nothing
and that his legion was treated as disposable trash
median sundial
Explains the rivalry.
cursive hull
Is Pert super petulant? Yeah. To someone as long lived as an Astartes let alone a Primarch, he'd have gotten there eventually. Makes him look impatient.
But in fairness, Big E gave him very little assurances and, yeah, Dorn was kinda the poster child that got to do all the shit Pert wanted to do.
tender igloo
although he didn't help that image either
cursive hull
although he didn't help that image either
After a while it feels like he basically just leaned into the trope out of apathy.
It got him what he wanted faster.
tender igloo
he pretty much stopped caring
cursive hull
Even if it made him increasingly unpopular.
But that presumes he cared.
ANd he didn't
tender igloo
what we can all agree on though, is that angron should have been killed immediately
cursive hull
Like, I want to feel bad for Pert.
And there are a lot of good arguments starting along the lines of "Big E is a shitty father."
But Pert absolutely started to dig his own grave a little over time.
As for Angron...
tender igloo
angron is the most sad and pathetic of the primarchs i think
cursive hull
I feel like Big E should have at least taken the chance of helping out Angron. Make it feel like he was actually willing to listen to the wills of his Sons.
Then, after presumably freeing the planet from slavery and making it The World Eater's recruiting world, he could have done something about the Butcher's nails.
cursive hull
Either way, Big E either should have just left Angron to his wishes to die or shackle him like a dog and use him that way.
And I mean totally shackle him.
GIve him little to no authority, especially when it comes to letting his own Legionnaires implant the Butcher's Nails.
Hell, make the nails illegal in Imperial space if he has to.
And only deploy Angron as a slash and burn alternative.
Its hard to feel sympathy for a butcher or a madman.
Angron started as one, and became the other.
Kinda how I feel on Konrad.
Which is fitting given his own Legion started to see him that way at the end.
smoky mauve
I have this feeling that there are things that the Big E is blind to.
tender igloo
konrad was so desperate to see that his visions weren't set in stone
cursive hull
Konrad totally could have been a good person.
But he went totally bonkers and just happened to be useful that way.
tender igloo
i feel bad for him
cursive hull
Either way, it does say something of Big E he let the Status Quo go on without pausing at least for a couple years to try and rehabilitate his sons.
But we're all in agreement that Big E is not the best Father figure.
tender igloo
he saw them as useful tools and nothing more
cursive hull
I'd not say that..
He clearly had an attachment to some of them that went beyond.
Horus, primarily. Sanguinius too.
tender igloo
i hope in the final horus heresy book it's revealed that sanguinius actually did beat horus, but fell to the black rage
and the emperor was the one who killed him
smoky mauve
Bruh. I didn't even think of that.... and that'd be awesome
tender igloo
probably won't be the case, but i can hope
smoky mauve
There would be an outcry lmao
tender igloo
i think it would be such a good twist if it's done well
cursive hull
But he definitely wanted them to fulfill their purpose at any cost.
This is why he let Angron or Konrad go as they were. They were indeed useful as tools.
But at the same time, I feel like he at least had enough sympathy to realize his sons could actually be sons post crusade.
Like, true, it would have been a tactical blunder not to recover every last primarch he could as quickly as possible so not to waste his investment.
But that's part of the whole "The Emperor is mysterious and we don't know his real intentions."
I do like to think he still had a shred of humanity in him to want to have Sons just for the sake of having a "Family" such as it was.
But he definitely wanted his goals met before that.
tender igloo
i also get the feeling that sanguinius was Big E's actual favorite, not horus
smoky mauve
I dunno man. Big E's shown to have an ego the size of.... well the galaxy. And being an immortal powerful being for like... multiple millenia, means hes gotta have more than a little bit of detachment on it.
cursive hull
Certainly
But do we know for sure the Primarch's wouldn't have a similar life span?
I mean, we still don't even know the maximal life span of a Marine, given none of them have died of old age yet.
smoky mauve
Bjorn is still tops in oldmarines, right?
tender igloo
he a dreadnought, doesn't count
cursive hull
I think so.
But he also kinda does and does not count, being in a Dreadnought Sarcophagus.
He's only half dead
smoky mauve
Hmm.... so wouldn't like... some of the oldest living being in the imperium, outside of perpetuals and the like, be at least some of the Custodes?
tender igloo
probably
cursive hull
https://youtu.be/7qVlNiAYshQ?t=111 On Bjorn
smoky mauve
How many survived in the war in the imperial webway? 2k?
And lets say... 10k years of attrition and them going into 'retirement' as the eyes of the emperor... like... maybe 1000+ that were around when big e last spoke?
tender igloo
belisarius cawl was around during the heresy
but he's had personality resets several times. so i don't know if that counts
cursive hull
Belisarius is also not entirely singular.
Like all Admech he kinda cheats his way to old age.
tender igloo
he's also one bad move from being labeled a heretic
smoky mauve
Probably has a thumb drive of his conversations with Big E hidden under a mechadendrite lmao
cursive hull
Dude's got to have something crawling around in his skull to keep him motivated, that's for sure.
But yeah, Cawl is weird.
tender igloo
the best representation i saw was the TTS version of cawl
he just switches between personalities at random
smoky mauve
Weird thing, CAwl is name dropped exactly once in Warhammer Crime novels. It was weird seeing a "big name" dropped so casually. lmao
cursive hull
Eh
I feel like Belisarius has become kinda a household name in places
He's important now
tender igloo
i'm just glad the setting advanced finally, even ever so slightly
cursive hull
Like, his name probably gets tossed around on forge worlds a lot
smoky mauve
Oddly enough, only the one tech priest, who was censured and booted from the mechanicus enclaves and had their bionics removed, knew of him, and the local law detective had no idea who he was.
tender igloo
i get tired of eternal stalemate settings after a while
cursive hull
Oddly enough, only the one tech priest, who was censured and booted from the mec...
I feel like in some places it might be a fight club situation
smoky mauve
lmao
cursive hull
Given the Ad Mech are so internally divided, they might just try to erase their enemies from the conversation to try and pretend they actually don't exist.
smoky mauve
i get tired of eternal stalemate settings after a while
Ahhh I get that. I guess thats why they shook things up with the whole.... imperium asunder thing
tender igloo
i'm just worried that they won't try and go further with it, and we'll be stuck in another eternal stalemate
cursive hull
They have to go slow. Is the thing
Go too fast, and you lose the highly profitable setting.
tender igloo
i get that
smoky mauve
Well, probably not anytime soon.
cursive hull
Go too slow and the setting locks up and becomes inflexible.
tender igloo
it is a delicate balance
cursive hull
I do not envy them on that.
cursive hull
Either that or just admit he's a corpse in a box.
I'd love to have the Lion around, given I like the Dark Angels as much as I do.
But either confirmation of alive or dead would help.
tender igloo
he is confirmed to be alive
cursive hull
Well, then he isn't a literal Schrodingers cat at least.
tender igloo
i wonder if that will be a big reveal at the end of 9th edition
maybe with some of more importance than psychic awakening
god psychic awakening sucked
smoky mauve
I just imagine Russ coming out and like... screaming out something like ||AYYYYYY FUCKERS, WHATD I MISS?|| or something equally loud lmao
cursive hull
As long as its a Primarch that doesn't entirely see eye to eye with Guilliman, you can't really go wrong.
smoky mauve
Which is probably why Dorn is a nope
tender igloo
that's why i like the lion as an idea
he's prideful and stubborn
and he would think he knows how to run the imperium better than guilliman
smoky mauve
Wonder if the next one will be like.... a loyalist or a traitor primarch....
tender igloo
I think we'll see world eaters and emperor's children get their own codexes this edition
Along with angron and fulgrim models
marsh grail
Like... maybe adding a new primarc or two <_<
Female primarch when?
I’m kidding unless others might actually find that interesting.
smoky mauve
Man, who knows. I'm okay with whatever at this point as long as the sculpts are nice lmao
On the tabletop, as long as we're having fun,, I'm game. Its probably against lore, but if the dude across the table is willing to play it against the normal wysiowyg, I'm cool with it
cursive hull
I just had a thought
Do Kastelan Robots, known for their simple programming, have IFF systems? They'd have to, right? Otherwise they'd squash their own Datasmith almost immediately and be a huge hazard.
smoky mauve
I'd have thought the Magos thats coralling them probably controls that
cursive hull
You'd hope so.
smoky mauve
Cog on Cog fire
cursive hull
...I still want a Kastelan to, in something, I don't particularly care what, so long as its animated, walk into a wall in the background of an otherwise serious scene.
Just grinding its face against the wall because the Darasmith hasn't told it to stop yet.
smoky mauve
I think I did that in that 40k Mechhanicus game when I got the Kastelan lmao
cursive hull
lol
tender igloo
mechanicus is amazing
cursive hull
It is
tender igloo
cursive hull
It perfectly nailed the Ad Mech
Like, as far as tone and everything else?
I couldn't have dared ask for more.
The soundtrack is perfect, the character work is great, its a good game.
tender igloo
it also made the story seem like it had actual consequences for the setting as a whole
cursive hull
Yee
A whole Necron tomb world reactivating is bad news.
Definitely gives the player the feeling of urgency to the plot.
smoky mauve
It made me want to start a mechanicus army.... lmao
cursive hull
I've always been a fan of the Ad Mech, but I only got more so because of Mechanicus.
tender igloo
also how much customization the difficulty had was awesome
make it as much of a cake walk or a hell crawl as you want
cursive hull
I just hope we get more Ad Mech in their current form in games from now on.
Like, OG explorator fleets were really, really light on actual... Anything, really.
But the current Ad Mech ain't nothin' to fuck with and they get so many cool toys.
They feel properly grounded.
Like they were always meant to be this way.
tender igloo
the voice acting for the mechanicus was also super clever
having them speak in binary while the necrons spoke fluent english was such a fun interaction
cursive hull
yee!
The garbled speech of the Ad Mech felt so natural.
I'd not have it any other way.
tender igloo
also a subtle bit of irony as well
cursive hull
For sure.
tender igloo
it's also fun to think about how the admech are only a couple of steps away from ending up like the necrons
smoky mauve
Yee it's a great depiction of the mechanicus. Right down to its factionalism lmao.
I'm off to bed y'all. Gnight
storm jungle
Yeah thats more of the irony with both opposing factions
final spruce
Necrons : robots that desesperatly attach themselves to their last bits of Humanity
Admech : humans that desesperatly try to get rid of their humanity
crisp heath
Not always since it depends on what Necrons you're talking about
runic wharf
Not always since it depends on what Necrons you're talking about
Facts
crisp heath
Newcrons are significantly more varied and more like Space Tomb Kings
Oldcrons were just
lol just kill them all and let the warp sort them out
storm jungle
Still cant get over people saying they were better lol
they literally had nothing aside from looking cool
final spruce
You say bot alwayq yet its exactly what the necron nobility does id you read the infinite and the divine
They still try to have a life that is somewhay like they used to have but incorporating the fact that they are timeless robots.
dim totem
I wonder what daily life for a newcron is like
final spruce
When Trazyn goes into nostalgia rant he needs Orikan's memory to make him remember that, in the end, he doesnt want to be human again
Noble or a rank and file ?
final spruce
Well rank and file necrons are just unthinking soldiers
So either snoozing or fighting
The nobles is where its at
dim totem
And the nobles just brood and plot?
final spruce
They do a lot of politics, have courts, they watch theaters, plot
Some do research
Its pretty interesting since each noble is its own character with motives
Orikan is a secluded scholar that spends most of his thinking of the future of the necrons and divining and searching to become a god
Meanwhile Trazyn is doing his thing, disguising himself as a human and immerssing himself in their cultures, filling his museum etc
errant mauve
Still cant get over people saying they were better lol
I felt a lot of the initial complaints had some weight, but it only diminished as Newcrons got more lore.
storm jungle
^
dim totem
Trazyn is p cool
storm jungle
oldcrons just dont fit into 40k
like as a major race i mean
since their motivation is just "lol kill"
glad prism
^ this too
final spruce
They managed to keep that part with the destrouer cult which is cool
storm jungle
tbh its all still the same which is great
the only difference is the c'tan got fucked
final spruce
Meanwhile the other necrons look at them with a mix of disgust and fear
glad prism
C'tan Swindlers
errant mauve
Imo Oldcrons fit into 40k back when novels were just a thing on the side, instead of being a pretty big part of 40k nowadays. There was an appeal to a faction of silent nightmare robots lead by living metal gods. But the cool factor could only go so far. Can't particularly come up with interesting new lore for a one and done themed faction.
glad prism
they sort of backed themselves into a corner with Necrons in some respects
final spruce
Newcrons opened a lot of doors for stories and books
glad prism
I think there's certainly room for their relevance, but I'm not as sold on it as I suspected GW would have wanted me to be
final spruce
Between the politics of the nobles, them realising they aren't so immortal because of the Flayer and Destroyer viruses
glad prism
Regardless of how good Infinite and the Divine was
dim totem
I wouldnt mind if there was another low power high stakes Xenos race like the tau
They're probably my fave
storm jungle
its a shame that GW cant show proper love to all the factions
its probably why 40k will never get a new major race
dim totem
Yus it's probably low on the agenda
But hey, new orcs, new ig, new crons, new drukhari
Seems like it's been a good year
glad prism
I weep for nids
glad prism
Krieg
final spruce
They arent even out yet and its gonna take a while before the standalone box is released, that is, if you like krieg
glad prism
Yeah, I think its just that its being done at all that's got people optimistic about it
dim totem
I might get them for kitbashing so I'm happy
atomic pelican
The monkey paw curls and Thorpe's series is revived
storm jungle
Abnett is only good at writing human/human sadly
just make gav stop writing and thats enough for me
atomic pelican
I would like to see Abnet write GSC
Theyre human enough for his specialization to work I think
Since imo, the most interesting fluff parts of cults come from 4th gens anyway usually
summer niche
i think abnet could do aliens well
but as you said
he is really good with the normal human stories
and it'd be a shame to not get more of those
frosty cobalt
I want a book about some imperial officers capturing a purestrain child and questioning it, but the entire time the kid is trying to warn them about the nids coming but they are too blind in their zealotry to see it
thin horizon
Can we talk about the Alpharius novel or is it still considered too new?
errant mauve
I'm down to discuss it.
thin horizon
So do you think anything is gonna come of the legionnaires in cyrosleep under the gobi desert
?
That's like got my mind hooked
Bet the Emperor knows they are there too
errant mauve
So do you think anything is gonna come of the legionnaires in cyrosleep under th...
If I'm being completely honest, I feel this is going to be something that Brooks added that no other author will touch on again.
But it would be cool if they could somehow connect them to certain foundings
thin horizon
That's what I'm hoping too
They also likely have some high tech on them
I figured it was a throwaway
But what if it isnt?
errant mauve
It would explain why certain cursed founding chapters have so much heresy era armour marks if they connect them to the Imperial Armour chapters
thin horizon
I love the cursed founding man. Black dragons are so fuckin cool
errant mauve
Cursed founding tends to be hit or miss for me, but when it hits it knocks it out of the park.
cursive hull
I like the Legions from the cursed founding who are totally loyal, but still mix up the usual space marine thing.
So, Black Dragons.
Lamenters
barren tapir
Anyone know what are those backpacks the scions have? Like, if they are a power source, or if they are just very nice backpacks
final spruce
Power source for their armor's auspecs and equipment
barren tapir
As expected, but at least i have confirmation from a reliable source... Thanks Zher
cerulean wagon
Think its a mix? pretty sure theres art of them opening the packs
So its a power pack but also a backpack
final spruce
The power pack is actually the small metal part at the bottom
you can see on the guy against the wall
gaunt vector
Anyone know what are those backpacks the scions have? Like, if they are a power ...
both?
barren tapir
Correct, fancy backpacks and power sources... Truly the best the imperium can offer
cerulean wagon
truely
marsh grail
I was thinking with demons existing are there also angels? I mean dark angels had to get their name from something and being 40k its likely at least in part based on something.
storm jungle
Kind of?
The only mention we get of them is those Things™️ around the astronmicon in the warp
storm jungle
I think they are just suppose to be warp demons of Big E
atomic pelican
I think some SoB saints are nearly angelic
I saw some summary of some SoB book which seemed to imply that faith magic was different, not psyker stuff
marsh grail
Hmm interesting if the emperor can make demons in the same way as chaos gods that would be interesting.
storm jungle
Yeah like
its just not explored
hence why we hear jack about it
closest you get is celestine
marsh grail
I suppose the legion of the damned may be tied in somehow as well.
storm jungle
Yeee that as well
I wont be surprised that when 40k gets its AOS-esque reboot you'll get units like that tho
atomic pelican
Phil wants to write it too
marsh grail
What would that even be like?
marsh grail
How do you make 40k more fantasy like?
atomic pelican
Its already pretty fantastical
storm jungle
^
marsh grail
Or will it be reversed?
storm jungle
also calling it now
instead of 1 galaxy
its gonna be like
across the entire universe
marsh grail
So it will become more serious?
atomic pelican
40k is p much just fantasy with space and tech slapped on
Space wizaaards bababbbyy
storm jungle
Yep that too
marsh grail
Starcraft but with more races. Maybe that will be age of sigmar 40,000 2: electric boogaloo
storm jungle
ye boi
as long as we get more cool models im game
dropping a bloated setting like this would be a welcome change
but it aint happening anytime soon so dont worry
maybe in like 80 years when we're old people or something and even thats a big if
atomic pelican
Yeep
marsh grail
Do the warp entities that are by the astronomica have a wiki page?
I won’t know what to search for
atomic pelican
40k has to stop being financially stable for it to ever End Times rlly
storm jungle
^
atomic pelican
WHF end times were a gambit that paid off massively
Which they only took because it was failing
marsh grail
Hmm think When that happens we get dark tide end times vs tyranid
gusty fulcrum
Starcraft but with more races. Maybe that will be age of sigmar 40,000 2: electr...
Starcraft is heavily implied to be based on an old game gw hired them to make then canceled then blizzard took what assets they finished changed the llok and made starcraft
same with originol warcraft
marsh grail
I have heard that that’s why I suggested it
marsh grail
In which case I’d also be fine with it
gusty fulcrum
i jsut cant rememebr if theres definiative proof
but i know its a very long standing belief
gusty fulcrum
usefull info with whioch to use on others
if were going by tzeentchian standards
also i guess this is one thing i found on it
"[Blizzard co-founder] Allen Adham hoped to obtain a license to the Warhammer universe to try to increase sales by brand recognition", Wyatt says. "Warhammer was a huge inspiration for the art-style of Warcraft, but a combination of factors, including a lack of traction on business terms and a fervent desire on the part of virtually everyone else on the development team (myself included) to control our own universe nixed any potential for a deal. We had already had terrible experiences working with DC Comics on "Death and Return of Superman" and "Justice League Task Force", and wanted no similar issues for our new game."
So basicly they wanted a slice of warhammer goodness but didnt wanna pay gw shit lol
coarse mirage
How do you make 40k more fantasy like?
Make hte grim and the dark a bit less ridiculous
coarse mirage
So basicly they wanted a slice of warhammer goodness but didnt wanna pay gw shit...
No, they wanted more creative control over what they were making, as most everyone else wanted to make something that was theirs, not a license from someone else that they had no control over.
tawdry wyvern
So, I finally got my ravenor audio book and dived a bit into it. || At the beginning, after the hunt for moletch he and his team are in eustis majors and he is travelling through lots of minds of the city. He got into one of a nurse that isn't qualified and there for a well paying cult, that pays for the babies, especially healthy ones. What cult is meant with that? ||
dim totem
i jsut cant rememebr if theres definiative proof
There's an imperium kinda thing, there's dudes in power armor, there's nids
🤔
gusty fulcrum
No, they wanted more creative control over what they were making, as most everyo...
By basicly making a good warhammerripoff
They are basicly doin waht gw does with otehr franchises material lol
Fun Fact I guess orcs being green wasnt really a thing till warhammer fantasy first came out
atomic pelican
Tbf current zerg actually predate what we know as nids today?
I remember reading that GW redesigned nids in the early 2000s and consulted with blizz so no copyright issues
gusty fulcrum
Tbf current zerg actually predate what we know as nids today?
Id have to double check that one
But I always thought it was kinda a wierd blend of tyranids and the emperor
Well the overmind
and its cenobites
or whatever
The Zerg commanders for the first game that were basicly embodiements of aspects fo teh overmind
atomic pelican
SC1 came out in 1998, 3rd ed was 2004
gusty fulcrum
aka primarchs but squishy
gusty fulcrum
I guess Protoss Dragoons are based on Dreadnoughts
gusty fulcrum
Ya each factiosn units are a wierd kinda blend/patalel of stuff from 40k for the sc1 game
gusty fulcrum
Prtoss are kinda weird blend of necron/eldar/space marines
atomic pelican
This has only reminded me that we still have 3e models for nids 😩
gusty fulcrum
Humans g=baiscly IG/SM
Zerg wierd blended elements of the emperor and tyranids for me
Cuz Like i said the way the zerg heirarchy is wierd parody of the two
the Cerabrates basicly working sorta like the primarchs in the sense they each sorta represent a drive and objective of the oveermind itself
And according to the wiki there were 20 cerabrates
only 12 are known by name and brood name though
One of the unnamed is implied to be you the character though
oh i guess we didnt see them in the second game cuzza this statment:The lack of cerebrates in StarCraft II was due to a creative directive from Blizzard, as per it "playing nice" with Games Workshop.[30] As of BlizzCon 2019, the mandate remains in effect, and it has been stated that it is unlikely that cerebrates will be seen anytime soon, if ever
Sounds like they are playign a game of copyright tango lol
cerulean wagon
they have been since WoW
cursive hull
I just had a thought
Why are the guns on the "Wings" of so many Imperial warships never end up being depicted as being used?
What, are those... Orbital bombardment weapons? Or... What? Because we never see them used.
ARe they even guns?
cerulean wagon
they arent
or well
which ship?
cause u say imperial warship and like 30 images come to mind
cursive hull
https://wh40k.lexicanum.com/mediawiki/images/8/84/Oberon1.jpg For a visual, the Oberon class, those lower tubular things.
And similar ships with similar items.
Fuck
Lexicanum come on.
Or on Mcragge's glory
cerulean wagon
iirc some of it is guns but its mostly retros n exhausts n shit
cursive hull
Huh...
Never... Thought about those being Retros... Kinda makes sense though.
A bit exposed, but I guess it'd be too bulky to armor those
cerulean wagon
cause uhh
most of the prow weapons are mounted near or in the ram
to avoid hitting itself in flight
cursive hull
Yee, I can get that.
cerulean wagon
althought i believe some frigates mount under belly torp tubes
cursive hull
That also sounds logical.
cursive hull
Yee.
The Sword class is probably my favorite destroyer/Escort Ship.
cerulean wagon
its pretty great
but ye i believe its retros and exhausts unless exaggerated like the sword class ones
cursive hull
Alrighty. Makes sense.
Also, only destroyer that matches the humble Sword, in my opinion, is the Gladius.
cerulean wagon
because outside of actual guns in 2d art, it literaly only exists in gothic armada like that
cursive hull
https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/warhammer40k/images/2/21/Gladius-class_Frigate.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20110630080137 S'kinda cute.
Also, fair.
cerulean wagon
love the uhh
rogue trader ship profile arts
from the custom ship building expansion
cursive hull
Oh, yeah
Its good too!
I do kinda like the odd ships out in the Imperial navy too.
Like, the Sword and Gladius are basically mini versions of the larger ships.
but the Flachion, the Endurance and Endeavor?
They're... Odd, but that makes them endearing, y'know?
Same reason I like the Oberon best out of the battleships
cerulean wagon
mhmm
iirc its because uhh
theres a core class the imperium can replicate easily, so a lot are modifications of that class
other standard chassis exist, but are much rarer
cursive hull
Yeah. That does make good sense.
cerulean wagon
A lot of the larger ship classes are lost tech
cursive hull
I do wish they'd list some of the vessels better class wise though.
Its odd they include old concepts like the Grandcruiser but not the dedicated carrier, or even the battlecarrier.
Like... Sure, the Emperor class has what, equal launchbays to macrobatteries? That still makes it more a battlecarrier than a battleship.
Also yeah, so it is said.
The Emperor class feels like it sorta falls more into the category of the Venator class Star Destroyer in Star wars does.
So... A Battlecarrier.
cerulean wagon
There are dedicated carrier vessels iirc but the concept of being used as such is lost so they just become cargo haulers n troop transports
cerulean wagon
Carriers are neat, but the way combat in handled in 40k for space also makes them less overbearing
if that makes sense?
Like, due to the scale the fighters and bombers are useful but being a dedicated carrier doesn't really house any benefits
cursive hull
Well yeah. It does.
Battlecarriers are kinda the... Well, only practicable option.
Even most "Dedicated" carriers in say, star wars, which has far more powerful naval craft, still happen to be battlecarriers.
Anyway.
Its probably more just the way the guns are mounted in 40k.
A Venator has its main battery to either side, just like the Emperor, but mounted in turrets, not fixed mounts. It can genuinely just sit back and toss fire at the foe and launch fighters.
The Emperor can't do that, it has to get stuck in, maneuver and fire as it goes, launching craft when practicable, in order to fight.
cursive hull
They are.
cursive hull
Fuck yeah.
Hard agree
Lance batteries are cool.
In BFG2, I always bring a roughly equal ratio of macros to Lances.
Lances are fucking great.
cerulean wagon
in an old rogue trader campaign i had a lance battery installed into our cruiser
the stats were great
The rules for orbital bombardment were...
1 sec i cant do this justice without grabbing them
cursive hull
holy shit
glad prism
TL;DR lances are great no matter the form they take
cursive hull
Also, yeah.
cerulean wagon
just "a relativley small area of several hundred metres cease to exist"
cursive hull
For ship based laser weapons in sci fi? Its a close tie between Lance batteries and phasers for me.
cursive hull
just "a relativley small area of *several hundred metres* cease to exist"
I love how relatively small becomes so... Meaningless in 40k, lol.
glad prism
Scale itself is a pointless concept in 40k
cerulean wagon
but ye just
rogue trader is great
This is from "battlefleet koronus"
Which is dedicated to ship building, raising an army and going to war
tawdry wyvern
Reading this hurts, when I think about how fun bfga 2 is, but after the campaigns there is no play value anymore
summer niche
GLASS THE PLANET
cursive hull
Fucking Tyranid incursions.
summer niche
i like the idea of macro cannons tbh
cursive hull
I just want my battleships already.
summer niche
"hab sized howitzers"
cerulean wagon
oh also carro
cursive hull
Lol
glad prism
Lmfao, of course
cerulean wagon
the exterminatus rules are elsewhere
cursive hull
XD
cerulean wagon
ended up getting a cyclonic torpedo last campaign
cursive hull
"Yeah, we won't give these to you."
gives them to you somewhere else.
cerulean wagon
when trying to deal with a dormant nid hiveship
cursive hull
What I like about Macro's is that like
Most setting use them as a super weapon in of themselves
Or something special
(Read: Halo)
But in 40k?
glad prism
"Yeah, we won't give these to you."
*gives them to you somewhere else.*
Most anything in the Middle East follows this method.
cursive hull
They're fucking everywhere and as white bread as it comes for ship board weapons.
cursive hull
Most anything in the Middle East follows this method.
lol
cerulean wagon
sup com is great
cerulean wagon
dont play 2
glad prism
^
cursive hull
sadness
cerulean wagon
cerulean wagon
we had a martial hubris one in our last campaign iirc
and it meant we had to do additional tests to try and retreat
because our ship would refuse
cursive hull
I feel like rolling a 2 makes you just throw it out.
That feels really bad.
Also, lol.
Oh and
"Temperamental warp engine."
Sweating intensifies
cerulean wagon
i also love the fact all "classes" have unique ship actions
like astropaths can cause your ship to become a psychic labyrinth
complete with moving walls
cursive hull
Uh.... Fuck.
That sounds horrifying.
cerulean wagon
its great cause u could just
random roll a ship
and that could be the campaign setting
which i might do now
cursive hull
Fair
weak fern
I always roll Reliquary of Mars XD
barren tapir
I personally like Ad. Mech. ships, but among the navy ones i like the oberon since it is very versatile, the falchion since it is too very versatile and i think there was a third that now cannot recall its name
primal tide
Another dumb region name on Terra, taken from a thousand sons:
Sud Merica (south america)
rotund siren
Erf
dim totem
erf
barren tapir
earth but dumber
Are you saying that Terra as name is dumb??!!
glad prism
I think Sud Merica is what's being referred to as dumb lmao
odd sparrow
I have Supreme Commander 2 sitting somewhere
tbh hot take but supreme commander 2 is fine, i played it a bunch as a kid and im emotionally attached
it's just not supreme commander
cus the og supreme commander is basically one of a kind
cerulean wagon
SupCom is a spiritual sequal to Total Annihilation which are both fantastic games with big unit pools and unique factions
SupCom 2 is... kinda like the dow 3 of the family. Not to the same extent, but a similair level of "we need this to be more accessible"
barren tapir
I remember total annihilation... I think i still have the cd for it
primal tide
I never played much total annihilation but I did enjoy planetary annihilation for a while, ended up not playing for like a year and it kinda turned into abandonware iirc
odd sparrow
yeah supcom 2 is like any other rts
odd sparrow
supcom 1 is this like,,, ngl i tried to get into it but i am way too smoothbrained for how much more complicated it is than like DoW or whatever
cerulean wagon
total annihilation without the soul, but with some neat innovative design
some mods actually add in an extra faction, really improves it
primal tide
Fair, I'm not a huge rts guy and I got drawn in by the planet mover engines lol
cerulean wagon
Oh yeah no those bits are great
just
if you play again (its now owned by the community who continue to update it because they made a company and bought the rights too it)
it has a mod section
big recommend Legion
bare in mind this is a free mod, not an actual expansion
primal tide
Oh right, it's planetary annihilation Titans, which is separate from non-titans right?
cerulean wagon
titans is a stand alone DLC
it was a real scummy thing they did
where they sold the expansion as its own stand alone full priced game
and all it adds is a few extra units
primal tide
Yeah, now I'm remembering and that was mainly why I stopped I think
frosty cobalt
it was a real scummy thing they did
Such a fuckin scum move tbh
I sill bought it cause i loved the game but for like 4 big units and like 5 small ones, 60 bucks was a rip off
They wanted money for the cthulu v robot game they never fuckin made
primal tide
Feels very studio wildcard esqu
deep skiff
if you have buy the original game you can upgrade it
signal hill
I still felt cheated that half a year after I bought a full game they released a standalone expansion which was the same game but better
vapid tiger
This is canon, you can't convince me otherwise
vapid tiger
it's igor sid yes
deep skiff
those thing are terrifying
cloud kindle
What chapter is that
slow prawn
The Crusaders of Yule
vapid tiger
What chapter is that
not named because it's christmas promotional art
but it is official artwork
primal tide
Warhammer: Yuletide
odd sparrow
what about yule
coarse mirage
The Battle of Saturnalia
odd sparrow
isn't that like christmas for witch kids
coarse mirage
Or wait they call it something else
odd sparrow
,, googling
coarse mirage
Sanguinalia
odd sparrow
OH
coarse mirage
Jul is what it's called in Scandiland
odd sparrow
okay right that's why the marine has the deer skull ok right
pallid crown
the mighty Sigmar Heldenhammer is the lost primarch in wh40k ?
coarse mirage
He's an actual god though
primal tide
The secret of the lost primarchs is that big e miscounted when he went to make 20, which is why it's such a big secret because he'd be really embarrassed if people found out he can't count
coarse mirage
"I made WHO?"
crisp heath
GW alas confirmed that Sigmar isn't a lost primarch
errant mauve
Sorry guys everyone knows Ferrus Manus died, reincarnated in AoS, and turned into Sigmar
errant mauve
odd sparrow
No ❤️
atomic pelican
everyone is in on that emote now
errant mauve
atomic pelican
good.
crisp heath
Sorry guys everyone knows Ferrus Manus died, reincarnated in AoS, and turned int...
Perish
errant mauve
yes
atomic pelican
odd sparrow
poor medic ngl
errant mauve
Anyways
I read Iron Without again and am now sad again.
This do be a fighting against Ultramarines moment.
vapid tiger
GUYS THE WARHAMMER HAMMER VAGUELY LOOKS LIKE FORGEBREAKER
I don't get that post
It's literally ghal maraz
that's THE warhammer
how tf is it forgebreaker
odd sparrow
they renamed ghal maraz?
errant mauve
The new logo is just a normal cool looking hammer, but medic thinks its Forgebreaker lmao
atomic pelican
zomg new the warhammer in the warhammerlogo??????
this confirms bob the builder for dark angels
errant mauve
But that's just a theory, a Medic Theory
slow prawn
Thanks for suffering through it, contrarians!
atomic pelican
I think medic might be matpat in disguise
odd sparrow
idk medic to me just seems like he's fixating on weird warhammer stuff as a coping mechanism. like, dont wanna go all psychiatrist on a random dude on the internet but
i feel lowkey bad about mocking him here lol
vapid tiger
It's ghal maraz on one side and an aquila on the other
errant mauve
He's a funky fellow.
odd sparrow
a h
atomic pelican
smh
atomic pelican
cant believe darktide mods ban anyone who plays a imperial faction and promotes eldar lovers to mod
errant mauve
eh....
vapid tiger
Hm
errant mauve
Looks like a generic stormcast hammer to me ngl
coarse mirage
the hammer in warhammer is a war hammer?!
errant mauve
the hammer in warhammer is a war hammer?!
Top 10 facts GW DOESN'T want you to know!
odd sparrow
ik it's been on the rulesbook cover for forever
vapid tiger
idk medic to me just seems like he's fixating on weird warhammer stuff as a copi...
Medic's issue is that hyperfixates on the stuff and then gets incredibly defensive when someone tries to dispute him or even discuss it from the viewpoint of "i disagree with your opinion on toy soldier writing"
errant mauve
I'm 90% sure it was just a cool name at first
odd sparrow
ye ik but still
vapid tiger
Did the name 'Warhammer' stem from ghal maraz, or was it unrelated?
I think the name came first, then they put Ghal Maraz in as a way to justify it years later
odd sparrow
dude is obvs going through smthn
errant mauve
But Ghal Maraz soon did become the iconic warhammer
Harry the Hammer is still iconic in my heart
vapid tiger
"Well we called it warhammer might as well put in a super special warhammer"
coarse mirage
ye ik but still
I agree. I remember him talking about himself and it seemed like he had it very rough.
Not an excuse of course. Just an explanation for some behavior.
odd sparrow
Harry the Hammer is still iconic in my heart
bonk
coarse mirage
We beat up our Eldar fans
errant mauve
He doesn't like Wraithbone. That's unironically the reason why.
vapid tiger
what
atomic pelican
LUL
coarse mirage
To remind them of how GW hates them
vapid tiger
wraithbone?
primal tide
Wraithbone is sick
slow prawn
he also hated eldar fans for some reason
Ask @storm jungle about that. She has some old screenshots of him dissing them in DM’s
primal tide
I love it as a concept
vapid tiger
the fucking made up magic bone substance
atomic pelican
He would just ping dilara to harass her
then whine "WHY ARE YOU ATTACKING ME!??!"
vapid tiger
@storm jungle why did he hate eldar
atomic pelican
I made this for him
vapid tiger
I love it as a concept
I like its texture in the dow 3 trailer where it's really funky looking and like
Porcelain almost?
atomic pelican
titled "eldar4smoothies"
primal tide
I like its texture in the dow 3 trailer where it's really funky looking and like...
Yeee
coarse mirage
I like its texture in the dow 3 trailer where it's really funky looking and like...
Like actual bone
vapid tiger
Ya
slow prawn
He would just ping dilara to harass her
I talked to him about it in another server, he accused me of bringing shit from others servers when he himself literally went and begged the Dark Angels server for help in that dumb argument we had about the Lion
atomic pelican
LMAO
vapid tiger
I thought he just hated elves in fiction or something
coarse mirage
Not shiny and bright white but kind a coarse and hollow
primal tide
I made this for him
Give weed elves pls
errant mauve
what
Medic has a really weird fixation on a very VERY specific type of "clean" tech.
He's gone on hour long malding sessions in the IW discord about how much he hates DG and Chaos minis because their weapons and armour aren't clean enough for him. For him, all wargear needs to be polished, studded, and hammered together perfectly or its bad. Since Wraithbone is none of this, and is really its antithesis (sung together) he strongly dislikes it.
vapid tiger
wat
primal tide
That's a butt
atomic pelican
the fact that medic edits lexicanum brings e grave worries for it
vapid tiger
wraithbone is a perfect material though
It's always "molded" perfectly
It's always clean
errant mauve
I dunno man, he hates it for some reason
vapid tiger
If he likes clean why does he dislike it
atomic pelican
It's really funny to have learned that medic already has a rep in other parts of the 40k community
slow prawn
He’s a mechanic and collector, as well as restorer of old technology as a hobby. It’s definitely a cool set of hobbies but I feel like he takes it way too far when he injects it into Warhammer
errant mauve
I'm just a messenger
vapid tiger
He’s a mechanic and collector, as well as restorer of old technology as a hobby....
yeah a while back he mentioned that in some old discord i was in with him
errant mauve
He’s a mechanic and collector, as well as restorer of old technology as a hobby....
Throwback to the time he called my rusty marines "disrespectful" to the wargear and bolters
vapid tiger
It's really funny to have learned that medic already has a rep in other parts of...
It's because he's literally everywhere
errant mauve
His hobby is real cool, but he takes it too far like Sanctus said.
atomic pelican
Follow him to the ends of the 40k discord earth and fight over every grain of sand
slow prawn
Though I think he’s been pushed back, he’s really only on the IW servers and DA servers and the IW has become his complaining place because there he has a couple of people to back him up
errant mauve
I made this for him
do you have the source image for sus Deldar
vapid tiger
I'm guessing the "stuff needs to be polished" thing is "well if dg and chaos have dirty and fucked up looking wargear it'll malfunction because it's dirty" but like
It's space fantasy bro
atomic pelican
do you have the source image for sus Deldar
I can find it if u gimme a secco!
errant mauve
I'm guessing the "stuff needs to be polished" thing is "well if dg and chaos hav...
Basically what I told him
vapid tiger
Chaos marines are literally magical
Their boltguns have fucking demons and shit in them
errant mauve
"We're in a setting where 20 space himbos tore the galaxy a new asshole, I think logic flew out the window a while ago."
vapid tiger
Ya
errant mauve
I get feeling that to some degree if I saw some super rusty historical wargaming minis, since they're meant to be historical, but it really ain't enough to bother me.
errant mauve
Logic was the name of one of the lost primarchs
Guys I found the missing primarch
atomic pelican
do you have the source image for sus Deldar
Cant find amogus vect source atm, I recall getting it off twitter but here's my payment instead
cerulean wagon
i cant believe you guys are all being cadians rn
vapid tiger
we are all cadians
cerulean wagon
errant mauve
NO DON'T TAKE ME TO CADIA I DON'T WANNA GO NOOO-
atomic pelican
I also made this meme because "UHH CRAFTWORLDS RESPONSIBLE FOR FALL DAE?!?!" memes starte dto grate against me
odd sparrow
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E4MfAjHXIAUy3jM?format=png&name=900x900
vect is adorable but i dont forgive him for the slave girl sculpts
atomic pelican
It's hardly even a meme, moreso just a actual timeline
odd sparrow
exodites realised shit was fucked very very early on
craftworld eldar jumped ship just before it was fucked to the power of 2
cerulean wagon
mayo have u been here long enough to see his whole cadian hatred? or does ge do that bit elsewhere too
errant mauve
It's everywhere.
atomic pelican
LUL
slow prawn
It’s even on Reddit
primal tide
I saw that dilara pasted the Reddit thread I showed her lmao
It's classic
I did a spit take when I saw he was the OP
errant mauve
Eldar Corsairs are the most based because Corsair is a cool sounding word and I like pirates 😎
odd sparrow
corsairs have an admirable lifestyle
atomic pelican
Eldar Corsairs are the most based because Corsair is a cool sounding word and I ...
smh the most based are harlequins, jokerfied eldar
vapid tiger
exodites realised shit was fucked very very early on
I like to imagine exodites started as the equivalent of space amish
odd sparrow
reject constrictive traditions leave ur home contract ten stds and die in ur 30s in a shootout
atomic pelican
That's accurate
errant mauve
wake up
raid innocent imperial orphanage
eat babies
sleep
A good day to be a Red Corsair
atomic pelican
exodite are p much spot on eldar amish
slow prawn
Just replace the horses with dinosaurs
odd sparrow
and ye
errant mauve
smh the most based are harlequins, jokerfied eldar
We live in an Imperium 
odd sparrow
eldar amish wood elves with dinos
just sorta vibing while the galaxy fell around them twice over
look horus idc if u wanna see the galaxy burn just leave my weed grove alone and u can move onto the next system
primal tide
eldar amish wood elves with dinos
GW: "nah nobody would be interested in minis of this"
primal tide
Mhm lmao
errant mauve
No Iron Warriors in AoS
-10 points
odd sparrow
Tho i can on some level sort of understand them not wanting to add on even more factions, 40k is fairly bloated as it is
atomic pelican
ogors
errant mauve
But Nagash is in Chaos
+50 points
vapid tiger
The black library goes out of its way to establish that exodites specifically ride lizardmen dinos from fantasy
gw already has half the sculpts for these units, just add the weed elves
odd sparrow
tho like,, pls hurry up slightly in updating the old ones
cerulean wagon
>No Iron Warriors in AoS
-10 points <:irontears:744784834068742187>
just paint sigmarine iron warriors
cerulean wagon
also nagash is death not chaos
vapid tiger
which are mounted on dinosaurs
errant mauve
Ik
odd sparrow
tbh u can totally just kitbahs exodites but like, idk
vapid tiger
like the fucking far cry dlc
primal tide
just paint sigmarine iron warriors
Ok honestly they would probably look sick with hazard stripes
odd sparrow
my issue with that is all it really gives u is craftworld eldar on dinos
odd sparrow
exodites are described as wearing these vivid colourful cloaks made from the feathers of native birds and shit
cerulean wagon
probably chapin lmao
odd sparrow
it's a really interesting and diverse looking faction that u cant really kitbash
vapid tiger
I just like Nagash a lot
I read Nagash's lines in Aku's voice for some reason
errant mauve
Good monring
odd sparrow
!! goodnight bones
primal tide
Sleep bone dad
odd sparrow
I read Nagash's lines in Aku's voice for some reason
THEY HAVE THE SAME ENERGY
errant mauve
I read Nagash's lines in Aku's voice for some reason
He made the Ossiarchs extra THICC
odd sparrow
I SWEAR TO GOD I WAS THINKING THIS BEFORE
coarse mirage
I read Nagash's lines in Aku's voice for some reason
slow prawn
Does this make Sigmar Samurai Jack?
cerulean wagon
dont make that stick
primal tide
I'll take you on, beanpole
odd sparrow
extremely tall intimidating magically formed ancient master of darkness vibes
coarse mirage
LONG AGO
errant mauve
Does this make Sigmar Samurai Jack?
Settra
odd sparrow
similar silhouette
errant mauve
Or
cerulean wagon
THROW DOWN
errant mauve
Alcadizzar
slow prawn
Settra Jack
vapid tiger
Nagash just seems like the type of guy to not only be incredibly evil but genuinely enjoy it for the sake of it
Especially if you read his Old World feats
errant mauve
Nagash is the most important figure in both Fantasy and AoS because he has the incredibly important role of being the Chief Jobber
vapid tiger
Or just
odd sparrow
https://tenor.com/view/samurai-jack-aku-cartoon-network-evil-hi-gif-3463452
I do forever love that scene of aku purely cus it gives u a good view of how this man is perfectly cylindrical
vapid tiger
Read nighthaunt lore
odd sparrow
obvs he's a shapeshifter but like
man really did choose to make his primary form a cylinder
vapid tiger
"lol the healers become murderers because i hate them"
errant mauve
Based-gash at it again
odd sparrow
and yes nagash is basically a shitlord
odd sparrow
no not that video again
vapid tiger
Look
I don't think Nagash's design helps with the comparison
coarse mirage
Yes
vapid tiger
atomic pelican
Nagash has the biggest hat in AoS
vapid tiger
He fucking looks like skeleton aku
atomic pelican
He's the biggest chad by default
odd sparrow
big hat big dick
coarse mirage
He realised if you want to have authority you need a hat
odd sparrow
it is known
vapid tiger
He's even got the beard
eternal ledge
Fuck you guys are making me want to get Nagash just to do him as Aku
vapid tiger
And the boney noises when he moves
errant mauve
and yes nagash is basically a shitlord
Some random Skeleton: "Well, while you did turn us into undead Nagash, being all skeletons sure did create an equal society amongst us outside the vampires!"
Nagash: Makes Ubermensch Skeletons
coarse mirage
I don't know many characters from AoS
cursive hull
Honestly
coarse mirage
Gotrek has a good fuck-it-all attitude though
errant mauve
Nagash's immense hat energy is only rivaled by Chaos Dwarves
primal tide
"Nice head there..... would be a shame for someone to just remove it"
cursive hull
Nagash with Aku's voice?
odd sparrow
gotrek is forever brian blessed to me now
cursive hull
That's...
odd sparrow
it was such a perfect casting
cursive hull
Literally perfection
atomic pelican
Nagash's immense hat energy is only rivaled by Chaos Dwarves
Did u see the rumored leaks
cursive hull
Also, yeah
cursive hull
Brian Blessed as Gotrek
atomic pelican
So it seems likely
odd sparrow
GAHAHAHAHAH
meanwhile local daemon population begins shitting itself
cursive hull
Is also perfection
odd sparrow
if u show up as the villain in a G&F book ur gonna get ur ass kicked
odd sparrow
it could literally be like the entire ruinous pantheon and gotrek would still slap them about
look
errant mauve
My 2 favourite factions in AoS also happens to be Chaos Dwarves and Legions of Nagash.
odd sparrow
i didn't say kill
errant mauve
Perhaps I just like big hats.
odd sparrow
i said ass kicked
cursive hull
In fairness.
odd sparrow
thanquols ass is red
cursive hull
They did ruin Thanquols life.
Well...
More like
They helped Thanquol ruin his own life
errant mauve
Man
odd sparrow
every time thanquol does something this naked trashgnome and his pet twink show up to help him fuck it up
errant mauve
I'm really bummed that you can't take Arkhan with the skelly boys no more
errant mauve
Ossiarchs are cool but Arkhan and a horde of normal skeletons is just too kino
odd sparrow
wait is arkhan just actually dead in tt now
atomic pelican
I actually bought the SC deathrattle kit
a month or so before arkhan died
in canon
cursive hull
every time thanquol does something this naked trashgnome and his pet twink show ...
Why do you have to fucking kill me like that.
vapid tiger
odd sparrow
perfection
cursive hull
PERFECT
primal tide
I love it
slow prawn
eternal ledge
Must resist... kit bash... urg...
errant mauve
Arkhan dying
please don't remind me of the humiliating death of my favourite Fantasy character
cursive hull
So who's Nagash's foolish samurai warrior wielding a magic sword?
That random Prince who stabbed him that one time?
coarse mirage
errant mauve
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dgJCb2nnsn0&ab_channel=Extradaemon
I love this video
odd sparrow
to me this is sorta the definitive nagash voice
slow prawn
In that case, the Scotsman is Sigmar
odd sparrow
if they ever make smthn big with nagash in it it needs to be that VA
coarse mirage
So who's Nagash's foolish samurai warrior wielding a magic sword?
That random P...
Sigmar?
eternal ledge
FUUUUUCK
odd sparrow
So who's Nagash's foolish samurai warrior wielding a magic sword?
That random P...
except instead of the gods of 3 pantheons giving him it it's just some rats
errant mauve
They still use the same VA in the AoS Nagash audiobooks iirc
cursive hull
Shrug
odd sparrow
you are worthy yes-yes
cursive hull
ALso, that VA for Nagash?
I like it. Very cold. Very calculating.
eternal ledge
you guys have really trigerted my painting urge
and I can't afford anothe $140 kit
coarse mirage
Are tehre any AoS books with Seraphon yet?
eternal ledge
I just got Kragnos
odd sparrow
the only thing i dislike about kragnos is his face
vapid tiger
Long ago in a distant land, I, Nagash, the spell-casting Master of Darkness, unleashed an unspeakable evil!
But a foolish Nehekharan warrior wielding a magic blade stepped forth to oppose me.
Before the final blow was struck, I tore open a portal in time, and flung him into Shyish, where my evil is law!
Now the fool seeks to return to the past, and undo the future that is Nagash!
eternal ledge
i wasn't going to do the open mout till i saw it at a differnt angle
errant mauve
Long ago in a distant land, I, Nagash, the spell-casting Master of Darkness, un...
I love this
vapid tiger
ALso, that VA for Nagash?
I like it. Very cold. Very calculating.
Eh it's just Richard Reed
Guy who voices most of the audiobooks for bl
odd sparrow
he does a good job still
vapid tiger
yeah he's good
I think it is
No it's Jonathan Keeble I think
Who the fuck is it
Maybe it's Gareth Armstrong
They all blend together
eternal ledge
Yeah voice distortion does not help
vapid tiger
Frankly I don't know who it is it's one of the black library audiobook regulars though
eternal ledge
hell when I watched Rya the Last Dragon I kept thinking Benedict Wong's character was voiced my Jim Cummings (aka voice of like every disney character from Whinny the Poo to Tiger)
He had a really close cadence a few times
vapid tiger
Weird
storm jungle
If he likes clean why does he dislike it
Because he finds it AND I QUOTE "disgusting"
storm jungle
<@166943308231344128> why did he hate eldar
Also honestly i got no idea
like
all I got out of it was it was the classic "uwu they're so arrogant" excuse when thats like all the factions in 40k. He seems to do it out of spite more than anything from what ive seen