Drukhari codex a good sign for aeldari everywhere
#40k-lore-chat
atomic pelican
tender igloo
this is the year of the ork i'm afraid
tender igloo
and what a glorious year it is
open marsh
I have made myself less amgry over the color of the 143rd's uni
And I can thank the Cadians this time
errant mauve
Broke: hating eldar and not wanting them to get models
Woke: wanting eldar to get models so you can make better looking corpses
atomic pelican
Big brain time
errant mauve
open marsh
Like the Cadian 8th has changed their uniform 3 times. Granted over the course of like 3,000 years. But still. They changed
tender igloo
i want them to get new models so the pain can finally end
open marsh
Broke: hating eldar and not wanting them to get models
Woke: wanting eldar to ge...
Aw yiss
atomic pelican
Yesss
open marsh
i feel bad for eldar players
Would the Patriarch of Khaine be an Eldar or Tyranid model
atomic pelican
New deffkoptas r great
The new boyz and the KT box has inspired me to play orkz
Having tried them on tts today, I cant wait for T5
errant mauve
I have magnetized corpses to put on the base of my Daemon Prince
I switch them out depending on the faction I play again 
tender igloo
could you imagine if they had brought squiggoths to plastic?
tiny nova
don't I need the new box, less ork players please I want to be able to pre-order the new box for atleast 5 minutes
tender igloo
oh lord
atomic pelican
glad prism
Mayo's also the one and only person to truly represent Iron Warrior on Iron Warrior brutality on the bases of his models
tiny nova
I wonder if itll fly off shelves like the city box or not
tender igloo
@tiny nova what's cursed city? sounds made up
tiny nova
I just want the codex boxset
atomic pelican
Hmm probably not? Cursed City was ALOT
I rlly am hyped just for new KT edition
I hope some factions get their personalities shown more in KT
tiny nova
Ide like to see a crusade/KT crossover
atomic pelican
Some factions are very boring in it compared to their full 40k counterpart
tiny nova
lets see what they've learned in 9e
atomic pelican
Yeess
tender igloo
imma be honest: while the core rules are great in 9th, the rules for the factions have been a fucking nightmare
atomic pelican
Rlly? New 9e codices seem like the best part
atomic pelican
Admech, drukhari, deathguard
tender igloo
that's what i'm saying
tiny nova
I haven't looked @ drukhari
atomic pelican
All rlly fun and fluffy
tender igloo
they are TOO powerful
atomic pelican
They did solve their problems outside of that tho
And yeah
Realspace raid is a amazinf addition that rlly fixes their old issue
tiny nova
despite old codex, orks aren't BAD
errant mauve
Mayo's also the one and only person to truly represent Iron Warrior on Iron Warr...
Ultramarines? Boom: Guilliman's head
Space Marines? Boom: I've got a captain painted for each first founding chapter
Eldar? Boom: Eldrad
Deldar? Boom: Vect
Nids? Boom: Swarmlord head
CSM? Boom: a lord from each legion
Guard? Boom: Creed
Daemons? Boom: Bloodthirster head
Sisters? Boom: that new high lord
Orks? Boom: ghazgkhull
Tau? Boom: Shadowsun
atomic pelican
They arent as strong as ppl hype them up to be
Ppl just werent rdy for them
Ive p much hyper adapted to fighting them with cults
errant mauve
A great advantage of being in the hobby for an extended amount of time is the raw amount of random minis you accumulate through a variety of means.
A mate gave me the old Vect model (not the ship) for painting 1500 points of his army.
glad prism
Ultramarines? Boom: Guilliman's head
Space Marines? Boom: I've got a captain pai...
I will help you bear this burden, Mayo. So long as it is yours to bear.
errant mauve
He now serves the noble burden of being dead.
tender igloo
if i have learned one thing in this hobby, it's that a lot of the player base will still keep playing even though it makes them absolutely miserable
atomic pelican
P much every codex comes out stronger than the last
Deathguard used to be the terror
tender igloo
and i'm not talking about complaining about the strength of certain factions. i'm talking every waking moment of being in the hobby makes them hate
tiny nova
If you manage to find people you like, it's pretty fun to do a sacrifice game where you take some old minis and the winner gets one of your troop's heads. Budget allowing it can be pretty fun
tender igloo
my statement is a bit hyperbolic, i'm aware
errant mauve
I definitely prefer the older editions' rules but playing 40k with your mates is still very fun. Bonus is that more of them want to play now that 40k's more accessible.
tender igloo
like i said, 9th edition rules are actually probably some of the best the game has ever had
glad prism
The Middle East and accessibility do not go hand in hand sadly :(
tender igloo
i just think they need to reign it in a bit with how powerful they make new codexes
errant mauve
The Middle East and accessibility do not go hand in hand sadly :(
Kill team drippicus however is very accessible
glad prism
House Drippicus
errant mauve
Le-Ork the Professonial is drippy
glad prism
Kill team drippicus however is very accessible
Can we have a pet grot in Drippicus?
open marsh
Le-Ork the Professonial is drippy
errant mauve
We are currently fighting Tyranids.
errant mauve
storm jungle
God
crisp heath
I
Nid
That to happen
storm jungle
i went through half of this chat and its just medic complaining
again reminder
lore isnt put into consideration when the models are made
get over it
crisp heath
Could be worse
Could be me complaining
storm jungle
median sundial
Someone here said that the new KT trailer made Orks scary; think it was Proud Genestealer but I could be wrong; but I know of one instance of that happening. In Space Marine there's an audio log where a guy's being attacked by a group of Greenskins and his wife tries to stop them, and they just start laughing. The guy said it sounded horrible.
crisp heath
Just wait till I get triggered by Eldar again
storm jungle
storm jungle
Someone here said that the new KT trailer made Orks scary; think it was Proud Ge...
Nah everyone agreed i think that they were scary af
portrayed as pure psychos which is great
and finally provides more material when people say orks arent pure evil 
median sundial
Just wait till I get triggered by Eldar again
I complain about people complaining about stupid looking Warhammer models.
Even then I've done it once, maybe twice.
Anyway continue Kronos.
crisp heath
I complain about people complaining about stupid looking Warhammer models.
I complain about people complaining about people complaining about people complaining.
That's how I know I'm finally a warhammer 40k fan.
median sundial
So many levels of complaint that the Eye of Terror grows in size.
cursive hull
I wouldn't say Orks are pure evil.
Chaotic Evil kinda fits them.
cursive hull
They're definitely assholes.
But they're technically not doing it intentionally.
Since Orks don't have a concept of a "Civilian."
Also yes, this is pretty perfect.
cursive hull
...Now I want a Weirdboy to laugh like Palp
storm jungle
They do it because its fun
its kind of the same reason why everyone loves palpatine
cursive hull
He's kinda like... And while he is one now... A classic Disney Villain of old.
The ones that weren't even pretending not to be evil, but really enjoyed it all the same.
Scar, Maleficent, etc
They were shits and basked in their own evilness
median sundial
https://tenor.com/view/cackles-star-wars-sheev-palpatine-gif-15366449
UNLIMITED POWAAAAAAAAAH!
cursive hull
Now I want palpatine to explode
But first he has to fly around in the air grunting in confusion.
crisp heath
But first he has to fly around in the air grunting in confusion.
Sounds based
median sundial
But first he has to fly around in the air grunting in confusion.
Now I just imagine a battle between marines and Orks and there's just this Weirdboy floating around in the air making stressed cockney noises.
open marsh
**lore isnt put into consideration when the models are made**
Guess thats why the Eldar still dont have new models, even tho they are getting more prominent in the lore
open marsh
crisp heath
Eldar too busy not banging to get new models
storm jungle
sadly
open marsh
Eldar too busy not banging to get new models
in before the Eldar create a chaos god of prudity
crisp heath
in before the Eldar create a chaos god of prudity
The true chaos god of evil
storm jungle
half of your complaints are overdone and boring as usual
crisp heath
the chaos god of no fun allowed
open marsh
The true chaos god of evil
Agreed
storm jungle
See what i mean
also you directly pinged me
jjust because i mentioned you up top
but hey works for me, i gotta get some tea anyway
open marsh
Just returned bait with bait
open marsh
yeah okay. sure
storm jungle
again ill repeat myself
if i want to bait you i could literally say anything else
you really just get stuck over the most pointless things when they dont matter
just saying
🤷♀️
open marsh
Totally not bait
storm jungle
Yeah it isnt, im being honest
if i wanted to bait you i could literally say something much more blatant
we had this argument like a week ago lol
open marsh
"directly insults someone. claims its not bait"
storm jungle
median sundial
> the chaos god of no fun allowed
That's what Gork and Mork are for.
glad prism
*Totally not bait*
Not it, chief.
median sundial
Also I'm starting to realize that I kinda love this server because a good chunk of you would probably savagely beat eachother with trashcan lids if you ever met in person, and I left because I was at the brunt of it.
It's both entertaining and exhausting, like Ying and Yang if they came from a back alley in New York.
cursive hull
Now I just imagine a battle between marines and Orks and there's just this Weird...
You don't have to imagine, its what happens in DoW2 if you kill a weirdboy
They literally float up into the air and fly around for a bit before exploding violently.
peak hamlet
"directly insults someone. claims its not bait"
Insult where
peak hamlet
How is that an insult
median sundial
Back Alley Ying Yang
peak hamlet
Also owned
glad prism
I mean, if it were me complaining nonstop, I would want someone to call me out.
Complaining to an extent that warrants others mentioning it, rather
storm jungle
How is that an insult
Might be something else he meant, i got no idea
glad prism
I'm telling you, I went through it, I found nothing untoward.
median sundial
I mean, if it were me complaining nonstop, I would want someone to call me out.
I'd be angry and then have hindsight later on and feel sad for a couple minutes if someone did that to me.
glad prism
Yeah, I totally get that
Really, if we be acting unwise, someone's gotta help rein us in
median sundial
Regardless, it's too early in the morning for this shit lmao.
crisp heath
I wish I could go back to bed but I have work today
open marsh
I mean, if it were me complaining nonstop, I would want someone to call me out.
Ive done stuff other than complain, but people seem to ignore that
Seems like people only like it when I complain, so they can jump in and tell me to stop complaining.
glad prism
Not a dig solely at you
open marsh
Oh I didnt take it as such. Im just noting my own observations
I pointed this out hours ago
Chat didnt fire up until I complained about somthing
peak hamlet
Ive done stuff other than complain, but people seem to ignore that
I mean if person a did a bad thing to person b ofc you focus on that. "Well i just stabbed this person to death but since i gave the homeless dude over there some money im not getting imprisoned"
open marsh
Need to rename this channel "dog-pile-on-Medic"
storm jungle
I swear
what is it with you and playing the victim card constantly
EVERY TİME an argument happens and I mean NOT every time you talk just specifically; 9-10 people disagree against you and you just need to die on some hill
and then act like the world is against you or something
open marsh
idk. what is with you taking issue with anything I say, baiting me, then going "lol why u mad bro. that wasnt bait"?
open marsh
I only responded to bait with bait
open marsh
yeah, bullshit.
storm jungle
Gotta go and see if my tea is done but I said it once and will again, if i want to bait you I'd have said something really more obvious.
peak hamlet
Yeah you should get some irl interaction and take some time off discord nuclearmedic
glad prism
Knowing Di and how she talks, that's really not how she would go about baiting you.
median sundial
And he's FUCKING OUTTA HERE.
cursive hull
Look.
I'm going to be completely, and utterly, honest.
crisp heath
She is right too about models and lore
cursive hull
Medic, I don't dislike you. I don't hate you.
But you put words in people's mouths, and you tend to insist on a thing being universally true.
Its infuriating
peak hamlet
Lmfao did he really leav us?
cursive hull
No
crisp heath
Can't at Medic
glad prism
Holy fckn shit
storm jungle
FINALLY
median sundial
@storm jungle you hit him with that trash can lid too hard, sent him back to the back alley lmao
peak hamlet
Yee
glad prism
Carro put it best
storm jungle
I would chalk it up to just like maybe me and skelly hating on him
but literally nobody here liked him
like at all
glad prism
But he brought it upon himself
peak hamlet
Yeah its 100% his own fault
glad prism
Everyone is a contrarian if they don't think the Silver Skulls are an Iron Warriors successor
median sundial
He did 2 things when ever I saw him: fill other people in on lore tidbits they didn't know about and say some stupid shit devolving the channel into anarchy.
cursive hull
Like, I didn't hate him.
But you can't debate, nor even argue with someone who insists you're doign a thing you're not, and can demonstrably prove you aren't.
median sundial
I did that latter bit too from time to time but I always tried to be a good sport about it.
peak hamlet
Lmfao
dreamy crest
glad prism
Based Dilara 💖
glad prism
The number of times I considered sending this does not bear think about
It also would have been bullying too, so at least he's done us the courtesy
median sundial
I kinda expected him to leave a manifesto when he bounced.
storm jungle
Im pretty sure he'll do that on other servers hes in and go "the darktide server is awful dont go there."
glad prism
Accept your victory no matter how bitterly you fought for it.
peak hamlet
Yea
glad prism
Truly, I didn't want to hate Medic, but his insistence on being right and speaking on your behalf is downright disqualifying for taking him seriously.
peak hamlet
Honestly he was pretty annoying imo
glad prism
Really, Carro put it best.
median sundial
But now that he's gone, who's gonna fill in the niche that didn't even need filling to begin with?
peak hamlet
😭
glad prism
Don't mourn for that which won't be missed.
median sundial
Aw man, I already made the Tombstone. holds dryerase board with his name written on it and a plank nailed to the back
storm jungle
glad prism
Medic bashing aside, what we malding over together, frens?
peak hamlet
Plastic death korps beeing painted in too dark blue
glad prism
Lack of soul lmao.
median sundial
Ok but why is this even a problem?
peak hamlet
Ngl i kinda prefer the new scheme tho
odd palm
I wish it was any regiment other than krieg tbh
glad prism
I think the difference in uniform colours isn't even a problem
peak hamlet
The fw ones look kinda washed out
median sundial
I always thought they were in black coats.
odd palm
Gib plastic
glad prism
Me and Lux with the Tallarn Desert Raiders watching the Iron Warriors turn our home planet into Jahannam
odd palm
XD true
glad prism
🔥
glad prism
Of course ur invited
glad prism
Civ V's rendition of Ceddin Deden on loop
cursive hull
I mean
Blue is just the better color for Krieg
storm jungle
i also really like the white-ish gasmasks
dont know why it looks so striking but its pog
barren tapir
I kinda like the new shoulder pads they got
peak hamlet
I prefer the old ones tbh :c
barren tapir
They make more sense than the slab of metal they got before
peak hamlet
But each their own
glad prism
But do they lack soul? 🤔
peak hamlet
I mean armoring the shoulders but leaving the chest exposed doesnt make that much sense to me tbh
barren tapir
WTH?! No, they have souls
peak hamlet
Or well lets just assume they have a slab of metal under their coats
barren tapir
Like valhallans they implement armour in their attire
So i would assume that the shoulder pads are there mostly for regiment number and a bit better armour
peak hamlet
Fair
median sundial
Other guardsmen have pads why can't the Kriegs?
barren tapir
It is easier to swap shoulder pads than to change coat or something woven on the shoulder
peak hamlet
Other guardsmen have pads why can't the Kriegs?
They do, i just perfer the fw pads
glad prism
It was just a Medic thing saying how the more round ones sap some of their individuality and soul at some point earlier
Iirc
barren tapir
I did read it
peak hamlet
It was just a Medic thing saying how the more round ones sap some of their indiv...
Lmao, didnt read but not surprised
barren tapir
His point were solid, although it would make sense getting something more ergonomic that the old slabs of metal
glad prism
As long as its quintessentially Krieg, it shouldn't ruffle too many feathers
median sundial
It's Krieg but they have tampons now, the world will live on.
barren tapir
I'm curious, are we sure that it is the 143 krieg regiment?
median sundial
I dunno I just see Kriegsmen.
peak hamlet
I'm curious, are we sure that it is the 143 krieg regiment?
Sais 143rd
So yeah probably
barren tapir
Oh... Well... Welp
prisma lark
is there anything wrong with them being from the 143rd?
cursive hull
It's Krieg but they have tampons now, the world will live on.
What?
Also, in fairness... I pointed this out at the time
If we're presuming these are veterans, that makes them slightly less useless and thus more valuable.
Hence, even if they aren't going to have actual armor from head to toe, a little upgrade in protection makes sense.
glad prism
What?
I think its just the sentiment they're after, "utterly inconsequential, the world moves on" type of thing
median sundial
That and said something about them having shoulder pads and the way I worded it sounded like they didn't have those.
Tampons I mean.
barren tapir
is there anything wrong with them being from the 143rd?
Nope from me, i just was curious from where the info was taken, i just saw the number 43 from the images, before Hobo shared that image
BTW, since skitarii are part of the legiones skitarii does that make them legionnaries?
I think yes
final spruce
Hello what happened
median sundial
Nuclearmedic bounced because he tried to do some dumbass things and now we're talking about Krieger tampons.
barren tapir
Do you want a summary or you prefer to read it yourself?
median sundial
Was one of the spaces making some weird analogy?
Cause I did that with the server as a whole.
final spruce
Tbh i like the redesign and recoloring of the 143 krieg
Makes em less stupid and a bit more colorful/easy to distinct from the others
glad prism
It's perfectly alright is what it is
barren tapir
Oh, just looked at the bingo, i did the "unironically agree with Nuclear" bit quite few times
glad prism
Fs in the chat for Blank
final spruce
Keep in mind its just a meme
dim totem
medic got banned?
final spruce
He left of his own accord
barren tapir
Medic went away
dim totem
ah well
however annoying some people are, i always get a bit sad about people feeling so negative over made up internet arguments
glad prism
I can sympathise with that, it just didn't help that good faith arguments and discussions never felt like they were on the table with Medic.
dim totem
🤷 didnt really talk to him
glad prism
Based tbh
final spruce
Atleast Im glad to see that empathy still exists
rocky nymph
i assume they kept on complaining about the new models and then got into bunch of arguments?
barren tapir
It was Medic pointing out that the medals made no sense since in established canon lore krieg don't use them
storm jungle
I just told him to get over it since GW themselves said lore doesnt matter with minis most of the time.
apparently that was bait so idk
peak hamlet
Also more important: gw can retcon things
final spruce
And they do it, a lot
peak hamlet
Yeah like saying "this isnt lore accurate" is stupid because it NOW is lore accurate
storm jungle
^
Like it can sometimes be annoying but its usually nothing big
just gotta shrug and move on most of the time
peak hamlet
Yeah
odd sparrow
GW can do whatever they want at all times
barren tapir
I think that things could have been handled better, but that is now the past
storm jungle
Instead of "THIS LORE TEXT FROM 2006 SAYS OTHERWISE REEE"
odd sparrow
yep
glad prism
There's being obtuse
peak hamlet
I mean its just fucking medals, where is the problem with that??? Its such a minor detail i cant
glad prism
Then there's being Medic
odd sparrow
Lore goblins get used to that GW doesn't care about ur 2003 novels
runic wharf
Lore goblins get used to that GW doesn't care about ur 2003 novels
This one statement was as true as it was hurtful lmao
prisma lark
I'd say it's more like, GW don't know their own lore... but it is what it is...
glad prism
They're all true to some extent
And not caring enough about their own lore often means they don't know some stuff anyway, but that's neither here nor there as far as this discussion is concerned
odd sparrow
tbh nobody knows their lore
it's 3 decades worth of nonsense that's part contradictory, part obscure and part plain stupid
glad prism
Better framing indeed
odd sparrow
that said, with the new octarius stuff it is slightly weird that they dug the specific fluff for that planet up and then went on to just
sorta ignore most of it
storm jungle
Yeah like they got lore experts obviously but its more that their own inner departments dont give a shit and mess up each other's content
like how the model team just makes what they're told to go and never goes "hey this doesnt look like a proper faction vehicle," etc
that kinda thing
glad prism
I'm still miffed over Ferric Blight on necrons.
storm jungle
Same
odd sparrow
ferric blight?
visual pumice
What dat?
storm jungle
visual pumice
‘Blighted Resurrection The Pallid Hand are ambushed by overwhelming Necron forces from the Novokh Dynasty amidst the ruins of Hollowfall. During a fighting retreat, Mortarion’s sons infect a number of Necron Warriors with Ferric Blight. Phasing out, the android warriors bear the deadly contagion back to the stasis crypts of their tomb world, beginning an epidemic of catastrophic proportions.’
This?
glad prism
Some plague marines caused an epidemic in a tomb world somewhere iirc
odd sparrow
,, diseased necrons
I have substantial distaste
GW they are r o b o t s
and they're probably op enough to just technogabble disease away on a molecular level
glad prism
Flayer Virus is at least a series of errata in the algorithms and shit
visual pumice
That stupid emperor’s children guy resurrecting in a necron warrior cause it apparently got joy out of killing him
glad prism
This is just more like, 'yeah, you got aids.'
They have done necrons dirty a bunch of times
storm jungle
That stupid emperor’s children guy resurrecting in a necron warrior cause it app...
Lucius is such an annoying fuck
visual pumice
That one is just totally stupid
runic wharf
Ferric blight isnt that basically metal rusts and decays
visual pumice
Warriors aren’t sentient
runic wharf
Thats how it was framed
glad prism
I guess Fulgrim kills Lucius, and that's just how it ends for Fulgrim.
Because no one likes him.
visual pumice
I like the new warrior models but it’s dumb that they’re falling apart because they should be repairing as they walk
runic wharf
Yeah but Thats the issue nugle says nah no repair for you only aids
runic wharf
I like the new warrior models but it’s dumb that they’re falling apart because t...
Not all nekrons repair quickly repair protocols can take time to start to run
barren tapir
If it is a warp spawned disease it could work... If only the necrons have many ways to repel the warp so yeah, BS
glad prism
I mean just the fact that it's so incompatible with warp fuckery that it doesn't really work
And I think it relies on them having a soul, and by the Chaos definition of a soul, its not truly present in Necrons
runic wharf
Like in lore i guess some nekrons are running off windows 98
odd sparrow
how warpfuckery is even meant to work is wholly ambiguous tbh
barren tapir
Necrons had their souls eaten by the c'tan
runic wharf
If it is a warp spawned disease it could work... If only the necrons have many w...
Yeah true but nurgle say warp resist gae have aids
glad prism
In other words, ferric blight was just chaos writers putting in one last fuck you to the necrons
storm jungle
That and necrons can literally end the setting but gotta get smacked in the knees with a de-nerf bat whenever the plot or script says they cant do something against the imperials
odd sparrow
I'm convinced chaos writers are all just abnormal gremlins
storm jungle
runic wharf
In other words, ferric blight was just chaos writers putting in one last fuck yo...
Basically yeah but it still makes sense but at the same time really dont
barren tapir
It is just GW wanting to push things, like, necrons should be extremely loathed by nurgle followers because they are the best example of unchanging stuff
storm jungle
barren tapir
It seems that chaos writers suffer from disillusion, they want to be strong and scary when they are just dumb
visual pumice
That and necrons can literally end the setting but gotta get smacked in the knee...
Silent king comes back to wake up all tomb worlds. Decides to let them sleep still cause that would be mean
glad prism
The more satisfying scene was the marine falling to his knees after he was gaussed
But this works too
barren tapir
I guess that he failed to awaken them because, you know, he is silent
runic wharf
Nekron scrabs are adorable
storm jungle
But yeah
necrons will only be allowed to do anything when the end times rolls around
in like
2080
visual pumice
Then in Age of Gulliman they’ll be a dead faction like tomb kings
barren tapir
YES!
runic wharf
Noooo
visual pumice
Settra my beloved
odd sparrow
F for settra
visual pumice
Sweet Khalida
runic wharf
Tyranids have to win and end everything
visual pumice
Lore is aiming towards nids last i heard anyway. SK came back cause they found a huge tyrannid fleet or something i think
runic wharf
Lore is aiming towards nids last i heard anyway. SK came back cause they found a...
Yis
Nids will consume every thing
storm jungle
but yeah like im pretty when 40k gets rebooted it will take place across galaxies
a good alternative to realms like AOS
visual pumice
That realm thing confuses me
storm jungle
same
glad prism
Just the fact the Deatwatch has a watch fortress above a necron tomb world says a lot about the incompetency of the Deathwatch and the Necrons being Skaven but less prone to shenanigans here.
storm jungle
at least space is easier to understand
visual pumice
I only saw the map in the core book and yeah
glad prism
Realmgates are weird, man
storm jungle
visual pumice
Supposed to be like the norse realms i guess?
storm jungle
i think so?
odd sparrow
yeah it's like that basically
visual pumice
Skavenblight being a whole realm now is just silly
odd sparrow
each wind of magic becomes its own realm and like, as i understand the vibe is that the centre of it is p much normal and as u go out to the sides it becomes weirder and more fucky
it's a flat plane
it's v high fantasy and like, yeah
glad prism
I just always saw it as Discount MCU with how the nine realms worked
glad prism
It's only business
odd sparrow
Is chamon free
glad prism
Is it real estate?
runic wharf
Ha
vapid tiger
Like eg Altdorf is just a floating disc
Eh no
It depends on the realm and the area of the realm in question, cities are normally just cities though
visual pumice
Seems really convoluted tbh
vapid tiger
The idea behind it is that since the realms are so vast and their cosmology is so varied that players can very easily create their own little corners of the aos similar to 40k, since you couldn't really do that with warhammer fantasy
glad prism
Ben here to save the day
visual pumice
I’m just trying to know how the realm things work. I think i’d be stupid either way
vapid tiger
Here's an example to contextualize the realms a bit
So the actual up-close nature of them is pretty easy to swallow, they're made up of different regions on a flat plane...usually
Like, this here is the Great Parch, a region of Aqshy, which is the realm of fire
It's a continent the size of eurasia
visual pumice
So they are on a ‘planet’ still?
weak fern
Its not on the rest of the Old World ?
vapid tiger
Old World blew up.
weak fern
I know that
visual pumice
I was under the impression that the stormcast were talking the bifrost to the vampire realm and shit like that
glad prism
So they are on a ‘planet’ still?
That whole thing is confusing to me as well
vapid tiger
So they are on a ‘planet’ still?
Not quite
Each realm is a different plane.
A different world
visual pumice
I hate it
glad prism
Like, I sorta see where its going but its composition doesn't mesh well with me
vapid tiger
Realmgates are magical gateways that can be used to travel between each world, and can take the form of big magical gateways or sometimes something more mundane, like crossing an ocean
It's very high fantasy
vapid tiger
Stormcasts basically use a bifrost from their fort in Azyr to get to places
But it's one-way
They have to find their way back manually or through dying
crisp heath
Didn't know that but it makes sense
vapid tiger
It's the excuse for them being able to deploy anywhere and to deep strike ingame
visual pumice
I mean. You can still have that with out the realm shit
Have a chaos realm and ‘heaven’ or whatever
vapid tiger
I mean they're basically just different planets story-wise they're just not shaped like planets
And they're really really big individually
Like I think the reasons they went with the realms thing over just having a big new world and a heavenly realm is because one big new world can be definitively mapped out and that was what GW was trying to avoid
The realms explicitly cannot be entirely mapped out outside of very broad strokes
To allow for players to make their own locations in them that can be as big or as small as they like
crisp heath
Unless its changed they are constantly growing
vapid tiger
Yeah I think so
Slowly
The other reason they exist is probably because they just wanted to riff on norse mythology
visual pumice
Plagiarism
vapid tiger
And also because the existence of the eight major realms has a caveat
There's also potentially hundreds of smaller pocket realms
odd sparrow
yeah it was def implemented largely cus they want to have infinite space to expand more factions into
in WHFB almost everything was already mapped out
vapid tiger
Which allows for players to not be pigeon holed by the already broad concept of the eight mortal realms
visual pumice
That’s where it gets stupid to me
vapid tiger
In effect giving them the same measure of creativity as 40k when it comes to player worldbuilding and Your Dudes - in fact, even more than 40k
visual pumice
I know it’s the same as planets but i just find it stupid
Like. A campaign wouldn’t feel significant if there is a realm that is always going to be x
You invade the soulblight realm but it isn’t like you can cleanse it or destroy it.
vapid tiger
Story events can still affect realms on a vast scale and individual player campaigns can alter their own little corners of the realms
There's also the explicitly mapped out small portions of realms which gw likes to play around in with stories, so areas like the Great Parch are official areas of the realms we can care about
Since those are very tangible
vapid tiger
You invade the soulblight realm but it isn’t like you can cleanse it or destroy ...
I mean you can cleanse the realm of death
You could even destroy it
It'd just be very hard to do
But it's definitely possible because the factions themselves are also very large in scale
Teclis ended a setting-wide event recently for example through a massive fuckoff elf invasion
visual pumice
Maybe i just don’t know alot but i just find it silly
vapid tiger
Because he's a literal god
vapid tiger
The best way to think of it, for me at least, is that AoS is a very different kind of fantasy compared to WHFB
Despite being a direct sequel
WHFB, the old world, whatever you want to call it, was rooted in a blend of tolkienesque heroic fantasy and the tone of Sword and Sorcery ala Conan
So it was basically just a normal fantasy setting that you see a lot of
AoS is more mythological fantasy
visual pumice
I’d rather there was a tangible way to walk somewhere than magic portal etc
Where is the ‘midgard’ then
Where does john smith live
vapid tiger
I mean you can walk somewhere inside of a realm
In fact given the scale of the setting you can feasibly walk from one realm to another, it's just that you would need to take a specific path that was basically a realmgate but physically doesn't resemble a portal and instead is just a mountain pass that has the magical property of being a border between realms and a mundane way to pass between them
vapid tiger
Where is the ‘midgard’ then
The center of every realm is midgard
Since the center of every realm is a mundane place
glad prism
AoS feels like it should have been a prequel more rather than a sequel tol me in a number of ways
vapid tiger
It's not 1:1 with norse mythology
visual pumice
Idk. I’ve grown a better appreciation for aos but i’m still not totally won over by it
glad prism
Rn I'm only for it because I care about Ben's brew for the most part
cerulean wagon
aos is fine its just
high fantasy
theres no grounding too it like with old whf, so its not my cup of tea
vapid tiger
AoS feels like it should have been a prequel more rather than a sequel tol me in...
I mean I don't mind it being a sequel since it allows characters from the old world to be in AoS
AoS has a kickass roster of characters that's a hundred times more interesting than 40k's and it's all thanks to being rooted in fantasy
visual pumice
theres no grounding too it like with old whf, so its not my cup of tea
I think that’s my issue
vapid tiger
The gods are 100% more interesting than primarchs
runic wharf
The gods are 100% more interesting than primarchs
Depends on the primarch honestly
cerulean wagon
primarchs are garbage but arent important characters in the grand sche of 40k
glad prism
Maybe I'll just have to get my fingers around the books or something because I find it to be hard to engage with for the most part
odd sparrow
primarchs are acceptable if they're hot
cerulean wagon
since you know, 95% of em are dead
the interesting parts of 40k are just the people
the rank and file, whether that be guard or tau
runic wharf
I mean the khan and dorn are really interesting
cerulean wagon
🤷 i dont really find primarchs interesting cause they lean towards the power fantasy side
they just kinda exist, and i sorta wish HH had remained forgotten
visual pumice
Daddy issues and weird personality quirks
vapid tiger
Depends on the primarch honestly
Some primarchs can be interesting but the fact is that primarchs are uh
Very much owe the fact so many people find them interesting to the fact they have been fleshed out to a comical extent by several different writers
Even though at their core they're just the imperium's answer to phoenix lords
They're just really big space marines
runic wharf
Very good point
primal tide
Aos was built from the ground up to have the gods stomping around in the background, 40k has worked really hard to fit the round peg of the primarchs into a square hole, but it's not quite right
(Including 30k)
vapid tiger
Ya
cerulean wagon
basically there are 3 fan pools for 40k
aethetic fans there for looks
power fantasy fans there for primarchs n sm
odd sparrow
and elf fans here to fuck exodites
primal tide
Lmao
cerulean wagon
and then... idk what to call the last one? weird lore gremlins that enjoy the rank and file and just people int he setting itself
cerulean wagon
and elf fans here to fuck exodites
thats just aesthetic, aesthetics is where i put you and all the other hornies
odd sparrow
heck
visual pumice
Get categorised
cerulean wagon
glad prism
It was about time
runic wharf
Im a fan of the lore and the quality of the game
vapid tiger
Game sucks play onepagerules instead
odd sparrow
wtf is onepagerules
cerulean wagon
idk
visual pumice
Famous roman legate
odd sparrow
i buy it
runic wharf
Nah just play killteam
glad prism
Caligula's horse
primal tide
The current rules are onepagerules if you use big paper
vapid tiger
As someone who has been into the game for a while onepagerules is 100% a better way to use your minis than the sweatfest that is modern 40k
cerulean wagon
big paper like calgars hands
runic wharf
Modern 40k is so ass
primal tide
Yaoi hands paper
primal tide
Okay
vapid tiger
https://onepagerules.com/portfolio/grimdark-future/
and it's free
visual pumice
Calgarpagerules
cerulean wagon
thats also gonna be a sweatfest if u play with anyone whos competetive
vapid tiger
unless you wanna go to tournaments
cerulean wagon
im lucky in that i play with weird lore people
vapid tiger
in which case why aren't you playing aos 40k tournaments are bad
runic wharf
Also 5th ed jank is fun
runic wharf
Calgarpagerules
Cursed
vapid tiger
or i can just play 40k and not tournies
Yes but then you'll still have to deal with gw bullshit
visual pumice
Or i can buy models and not paint them 
vapid tiger
Such as space marines being utterly overpowered simply because gw wants to sell you those eradicators
pine cairn
What GW bullshit is specific to 40k and not AoS?
runic wharf
Or i can buy models and not paint them <:heh:843097659836858389>
Or i can buy models and never unbox them
cerulean wagon
theyd dom u if u ask nicely ratty, probably
visual pumice
The marshal two manipulus meta
pine cairn
Ad mech and drukhari are still outright better factions than any sm chapter currently
visual pumice
True lore chat awakens
vapid tiger
What GW bullshit is specific to 40k and not AoS?
AoS suffers from the same issues of "something releases and it's potentially utterly unbalanced because they want to sell you the new models" and/or "shitloads of bloat and less room for conversion" but AoS tournaments are better than 40k
Simply because the community is better
runic wharf
Sm is so ridiculous now fucking bladegaurds
pine cairn
I dunno, both games have toxic watch communities as far as I've seen
Just the nature of competitive gaming
vapid tiger
A 40k tournament is usually a sweaty competition, an AoS tournament is an excuse to play with your models for a whole day and get a beer
pine cairn
I think that's just a personal view rather than a objective one
odd sparrow
tbh i feel tournies for big tabletop games are always gonna be p sweaty. i way prefer to play with friends
pine cairn
I've seen some hella toxic AoS players 🤣
odd sparrow
fluffy armies vs fluffy armies is the optimal way to play WH
vapid tiger
You can go to an AoS tournament and just shoot for a 3-2 win ratio and have a beer with your opponent midgame
You can go to a 40k tournament and get blasted off the table by turn 2 by a neckbeard
That's my experience
pine cairn
Ehhh most 40k tournes I've experienced have been chill
pine cairn
It's sounding like bias to me personally
vapid tiger
Tournaments in general are a stupid idea but the aos ones are nicer
I am biased
AoS has a better community online and largely in person
although in person it evens out mostly
odd sparrow
i've only ever played in like, smol scale tabletop clubs that play a bunch of things
the types with lots of old ppl and the bathroom is possibly haunted
So yeah not v sweaty
vapid tiger
That's the ideal
runic wharf
Same
cerulean wagon
aos and 40k tournies are both he same cause its playing competitive
i know someone that ran a 1 turn table army
think it was goblins just after they got the squigs update
vapid tiger
But yeah 40k rules inferior onepagerules superior try it out with your friends so it gets normalized
games take less long to play and the rules are free and you don't have to worry about bullshit appearing three years from now and potentially fucking over the entire meta because gw really wants to sell you those riptides/wraithknights/eradicators
or play oldhammer that's also good
runic wharf
But also like some table top events people really need to fucking wash they hands like last time i went some dudes fingernails were black im like dude please dont touch my model's
pine cairn
Yeah I'd rather not, 1 page rules sounds shit 🤣
cerulean wagon
id rather not thx for the suggestion
vapid tiger
keep paying for rulebooks then
pine cairn
I'll keep paying as long as it makes the game more interesting than 1 page can give me
1 page rules I may as well just go play with dirt and get more depth
vapid tiger
ah yes because you dont have too for aos
Nah onepagerules also has an aos game
It's also better
vapid tiger
1 page rules I may as well just go play with dirt and get more depth
i mean it plays about the same
as 8th and 9th ed
cerulean wagon
its better if u dont like depth i guess
vapid tiger
it's "one page" but there's also a full rulebook and codices
pine cairn
You get the same level of depth in game from 1 page of rules as I do from using a rule book?
vapid tiger
its better if u dont like depth i guess
40k hasn't had a substantial amount of increased depth since 7th ed
They removed armor facings, true line of sight, etc
visual pumice
Just get the rule book and codexes online in pdf format
pine cairn
So wtf is onepagerules if its not just "use the rulebook and codexes" like 40k does 🤣
visual pumice
vapid tiger
Might as well go for something that embraces that spirit of streamlining and is barely different
cerulean wagon
9e introduced a bunch of stuff to deepend it again without being new player unfriendly
pine cairn
Like this one onepagerules sounds made up honestly
cerulean wagon
based realspace raid rules
vapid tiger
Like this one onepagerules sounds made up honestly
nah
pine cairn
Link?
visual pumice
If you just focus on the faction you want to play then i can’t imagine getting bogged down by it
runic wharf
Honestly the good thing about 40k is there are ao many ways to play and none of them are wrong
cerulean wagon
its streamlined rules for 30-40 models an army
cant wait to field a single ig squad
vapid tiger
If you want to play larger games you can up the point limit
Or in fact play 40k
pine cairn
Well I can have those for free now
vapid tiger
And the rules aren't designed to make you want to purchase certain models over others since it's made by a third party that doesn't care about what minis you buy
Therefore it's just a game plain and simple rather than a vehicle
cerulean wagon
ye gw do their codicies n shit as part of their animation n white dwarf sub now
vapid tiger
And that still has a cost to it
pine cairn
Nahh I just get the pdfs for free
vapid tiger
Yeah well that's not legal even though everyone does it
pine cairn
Lot easier than paying a subscription for a bad app and unknown quality animations
vapid tiger
It's not what's expected is the thing
pine cairn
Well if this onepagerules uses GW IP stuff then it's also illegal
pine cairn
🤣
pine cairn
So it's just a Chinese knockoff of 40k rules with less depth
cerulean wagon
"its not illegal because we changed the names" is legit ip theft
which is why they cannot direct charge for it but i bet they have a patreon
visual pumice
They have an onlyfans
pine cairn
They indeed have a patreon
cerulean wagon
its gw c&d lore
visual pumice
Or just find them online
visual pumice
Any remediations are free on community anyway
rotund siren
lmao
vapid tiger
i'm just gonna let you keep talking lol
barren tapir
Goobernoober, did you read the rules when you entered like minutes ago?
smoky mauve
Bruh. What the hell is going on here? Lmao
final spruce
But, guy you're on a gamer discord discussing with us
barren tapir
That isn't really important, the important thing is to follow the rules
Eh, you are free to don't like them, just don't let your emotional response to that break any rules
smoky mauve
Now back to lore chat
final spruce
Well the chat will be a lot quieter without Medic
weak fern
Did the Arbites get an old model ?
vapid tiger
Where is medic
runic wharf
Man really needs to chill
barren tapir
Where is medic
Gone, he left the server
weak fern
Or did they get one in the past ?
smoky mauve
Aw. They seemed okay.
final spruce
I don't even know if they got one
The closest we got are the arbiters from Necromunda
smoky mauve
Arbiters hasn't been updated since their old pewter days
barren tapir
The closest we got are the arbiters from Necromunda
But they aren't arbites, they are enforcers
final spruce
But they aren't arbites, they are enforcers
Which is why I said the closest
final spruce
Are you going to be pedantic like Medic ?
smoky mauve
Ahh yeah Enforcers are the local law, while arbites are the imperium at large
weak fern
Please, stop, get some help
vapid tiger
goober stop being schizo
barren tapir
Are you going to be pedantic like Medic ?
Me? I thought you knew me better
weak fern
Noice
final spruce
Ehhhh, GW earns too much money with AOS, even if 40k where to fall they'd only lose 30% of their income
Which is still alot
cerulean wagon
medics dead?
runic wharf
Dude has no idea whay communism is what they are doing is dead ass capitalism at its finest
barren tapir
Medic left
cerulean wagon
aos isnt getting squated lmao
final spruce
He elft after Dilara said the truth one too many times
odd sparrow
medic left of his own accord ye, idk why
cerulean wagon
why do people think this
vapid tiger
I can't believe they took medic out back and shot him
odd sparrow
and yeah ppl are like
somehow under the impression that AoS is the black sheep of GW that everyone hates and it's gonna get yeeted
final spruce
They literally said AOS is staying and are jsut releasing Old school on the side for the angry boomers
odd sparrow
ye old world is not a replacement for AoS
cerulean wagon
its in ddition to not replacing
slow prawn
Money!
odd sparrow
it's gonna be a side game, more like the horus heresy vs 40k
primal tide
Nope, wrong on all counts
visual pumice
Because they can make money of it still
barren tapir
Ok, those are weird words
slow prawn
That’s why GW does anything
barren tapir
That remind me of someone else
odd sparrow
it's not gonna retcon anything
primal tide
It's a prequel game
odd sparrow
it's just taking place pre end times
primal tide
Like 30k
odd sparrow
Yea
visual pumice
Whf was failing and the dumped it. Games like vermintide and total war showed that there is still a demand for the setting so they’re bring it back
slow prawn
It literally won’t. It takes place like 200 years before End Times
primal tide
Ok this dude is clearly a troll
final spruce
Who said something about squating lmao
cerulean wagon
its just a new game line
final spruce
cerulean wagon
odd sparrow
i wanna die
barren tapir
nothing is getting squated
With the exception of squats probably
cerulean wagon
Aos is their largest grossing product it bumped their stocks 700%
odd sparrow
yeh
visual pumice
They just released 3rd
odd sparrow
AoS is doing amazing rn
cerulean wagon
squating it would be the worst business decision of the century
odd sparrow
tposing on 40k in almost every area
dim totem
in your opinion
cerulean wagon
the games actually pgud
visual pumice
Have you played it or read it?
runic wharf
Never got into aos or whf
dim totem
im not a fan of the lore either so i never really looked into it, but people are throwing money at it so it must be good
odd sparrow
that's hella outdated lol
vapid tiger
odd sparrow
and nobody did it anyways
visual pumice
What
runic wharf
Jesus man needs to take his meds or something amd chill
slow prawn
What channel?
visual pumice
So you haven’t played it then
odd sparrow
A lot of that info is outdated and probably outright incorrect then tbh. Like
slow prawn
Yeah…I’m absolutely going to believe you
barren tapir
Goobernoober, trolling is also prohibited by rules
runic wharf
If everyone hated aos why does it sell so well
visual pumice
They squeeze money by spending more?
Doesn’t really make sense
Whf would still exist if that was the case
runic wharf
Really need to fact check some shit dood
visual pumice
Man emerges from under rock
odd sparrow
regardless of ur feelings on aos like, it's just reality that it's very financially successful
yeah it's bait
smoky mauve
odd sparrow
knock urself out ima go do fun things
vapid tiger
🍿
storm jungle
Literally half the new minis AOS puts out lol
smoky mauve
The new AoS sculpts are pretty fire
glad prism
I nap and return to another one of these?
visual pumice
cursive hull
I feel like this is an alt account
storm jungle
Same tbh
cursive hull
Isn't this exact conversation had multiple times in a week?
smoky mauve
Of that uhhh guy?
vapid tiger
it might be the same guy who got banned like 3 times
glad prism
Why would GW want to release those numbers?
final spruce
pine cairn
Nobody can say which makes more money so stating which is the money maker is entirely subjective opinion
cursive hull
More importantly, if GW felt AOS was not profitable, they would have dumped it immediately.
storm jungle
https://www.reddit.com/r/Warhammer/comments/814l4f/what_percentage_of_gw_sales_i...
There it is
storm jungle
Nobody can say which makes more money so stating which is the money maker is ent...
also business isnt "subjective"
one thing makes money, the other doesnt
primal tide
Is this dude just medic in a trench coat come to annoy us
cursive hull
"40k makes more, but AOS isn't doing bad."
Yeah, that pretty much summarizes it.
pine cairn
And unless you can show me which one makes the money and which doesn't your assessment would be an opinion
cursive hull
Is this dude just medic in a trench coat come to annoy us
Even Medic wasn't this stupid
barren tapir
Anyway, why are we talking about GW money in the F WH40K LORE CHAT?!
odd sparrow
medic is just argumentative and victim complex-y, this is just a weirdo
primal tide
I know, is only joke
primal tide
glad prism
Also, like yeah, put out reports, but I think just what they refresh on their own is fairly indicative of where they're making bank.
visual pumice
Nae naed
odd sparrow
do u see that
odd sparrow
it is the goalposts
barren tapir
You seems to have outdated infos
odd sparrow
disappearing far over the horizon
storm jungle
what
final spruce
I jsut said it sold well lmao
glad prism
What are you on about?
smoky mauve
Bruh. Let's all just get back to lore
vapid tiger
🍿
final spruce
So now kriegs are less memy
odd sparrow
my religion is soulblight gravelords
visual pumice
Emralds
storm jungle
Why are AOS minis so good?
glad prism
This is just the Darktide Server lore now
odd sparrow
difhopgvdas
storm jungle
dab
glad prism
Pffstataf
primal tide
What are you on about?
Is it:
A) Child
B) Drugs
C) Troll
Place your bets ladies and gentlemen
smoky mauve
Dillara please just post the blood knights and let us go home lmao
glad prism
Brb, choking
visual pumice
If i may
odd sparrow
drycha is hot
glad prism
Is it:
A) Child
B) Drugs
C) Troll
Place your bets ladies and gentlemen
Doesn't have to be mutually exclusive but damn
barren tapir
primal tide
Jealous?
visual pumice
Nope
pine cairn
So far I haven't seen any evidence to state which makes.more.money over the other 🤣
odd sparrow
the new 40k orks are great to be fair
visual pumice
Objectively false
odd sparrow
my only issue with the aos LOTR orcs is like, idk i get that there are reasons for it but the legs are a lil small still
tender igloo
40k orks do look better
smoky mauve
https://www.games-workshop.com/resources/catalog/product/920x950/99120207095_SBG...
Awww yeah. That's the stuffthere
visual pumice
I stan the swamp orks
primal tide
My vote is A + C
odd sparrow
same
barren tapir
Those words
glad prism
They're proportioned sorta like LotR trolls in some way so it doesn't feel that unnatural, but yeah, I suppose in some ways
barren tapir
They remind me...
odd sparrow
40k is not serious, particuarly military or sci fi
tender igloo
AoS is better than 40k right now but i still think 40k orks are better
glad prism
This feels rehearsed
cursive hull
I recognize this exact fucking verbage.
odd sparrow
it's space fantasy
vapid tiger
it's him
storm jungle
Why are you such a chud
barren tapir
So, i'm not the only one
dim totem
is this that uhhhh guy
odd sparrow
who do yall think it is
odd sparrow
im not up to date on banned weirdos
visual pumice
The jig is up
vapid tiger
we have you surrounded put your hands up
runic wharf
Im new here le fuk is goin on
barren tapir
No, not really
primal tide
He says, after saying some turbo wack ass shit
storm jungle
Sorry no offense but you should expect some backlash when you say "lmao this universe fucking sucks dude"
barren tapir
They didn't said that aos is shit
glad prism
We're used to chuds at this point, alt or not, you hold a lot of the same bullshit talking points and not really allowing people to enjoy something meant to be enjoyed.
cursive hull
And state them identically
primal tide
Citation needed