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Also true. I never heard the end of it either
At least, with my brother didn't, they fatigued eventually with me
What is GPA?
Grade point avg
Grade Point Average
Uhm...
A 4.0 is top marks
Grand Prix Australia
Asian parents gang 😎
Like all As
Sound similar to IQ and other BS
🇮🇷 🤝 🇲🇳
Its even less founded than IQ since you could fail PE and itd drop you down 
I remember telling my old man I failed math once and his response was "you're also failing to take out the garbage right now"
My parents got mad at me because my percentage avg in undergrad was a 92 instead of a 95+
NERRRRRDDDDDD
I just want to make my tau battlesuit game thats actually hiding a deep philosophical disscution on brutality and peace

PE? Is this something social?
Actually, my parents got mad at me for a lot of shit I thought they would be happy with how that I think about it.
Code Geass?
Physical education
good series
Gym
Physical Education, it's where the teachers beat you with textbooks until you absorb the information
Funny enough my pe teacher loved me and even tho i suck at sports since i helped clean i got an a
I really must have fatigued my parents because they weren't nearly as disappointed as they should have been under the circumstances of my dropping out of college, even if it was primarily mental health and lack of finance.
Oh... I had problem with it too lol
But that was because the teacher was an asshole
Legendary
GPA is just the average of all your grades in school
The only A i got that year 🤣
My mom got mad when I got accepted into Harvard because I didn't get a scholarship to go with it. 
Mashallah, mine also loved me for much the same reasons and I was the only gymnast in his class
I aced PE because I'm a CHAD (I wasn't a chad I was just speedy and flexible)
I did poorly becsuse, the final was the fucking PACER which almost killed me
THE RUNNING WILL COMMENCE... NOW!
Fellow gymnast? 👀
Former gymnast anyway, my back is fucked lol
FITNESS GRAM PACER TEST WAS DESIGNED BY ALL 4 CHAOS GODS
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oh yea dw I snapped a collar bone which kinda did me in lmao
FUUUUUUU-
But I still can, only forward though, I'm not allowed to tumble or do anything that requires me to go backward tho
THE FITNESS GRAM PACER TEST WILL NOW BREAK YOUR SOUL, MORTAL
oh we called this the beep test
I have a defect in my spine that means one of my vertebrae doesn't lock into the next one and I also fucked up my sternum on high bar
I did swimming, waterpolo, and wrestling in highschool.
Good strategy, it will make the morale of the Loyalist dogs break faster
Wrestling was the one thing they wouldn't let us do.
ooof I'm sorry :^(
Its cool, I can still tumble, only forward tho
my thing was P-bars and rings
That test seems dumb
I cut my arm on the p bars
Pommel horse and floor was what I was best at
I almost knackered myself on pommel horse lmao
I handled the test by making a pact with all the other unfit kids that we'd drop out at the same time

We all dropped for the weakest link
solidarity forever
Guard: cowering in a bunker hearing the footfalls get louder
IW: squeezes inside THE FITNESS GRAM PACER TEST WILL NOW COMMENCE
Guard: screams
A kid broke his rib on one I think after he lost his grip and fell over onto his chest
Former horse rider, you just sort of learned to get around it to an extent
But I have had some close calls
My dad wanted me to do badminton alongside wrestling but I explained to him that a 184cm 180 lb wrestler likely would not be good at a sport designed for nimble movement.
yeaa I rode horses for a while but I felt more in control of that for w/e reason
UP
pauses what seems a century
DOWN
You're also like, constructed alternatively
wtf why is the pacer test music kinda groovy?
mind you it wasn't anything rigorous, just riding around a farm
I never got toactually listen to it when I wasn't delirious
Stockholm syndrome

I got to competition level before a fall that scared my parents into never letting me ride again lmao
But that sounds like a fckn dream, man
oh it was
I did mtn bike but quit after a bad crash
Dream of it when you eventually go to bed.
aside from the smell of manure everywhere
Where my pain fam at?
seriously people who are like "fresh air on the farm" probably ain't been on a farm
it's animal smells all over
Thankfully didnt break anything but my elbows and shoulders click when i move
My left collar bone clicks because of my fall off the high bar
I'm Mongolian and I'm mediocre at riding horses.
Forever disappointing the Dzungar side of the family :why:
I will remain your cherbi in either case
Pig farming for me
I love pigs so much
Lov them pigs
pigs are precious
They keep themselves really clean too tbh
Compared to other animals
They're p smart too
Stables have been where I felt most at home, but I do love pigs
We raised goats and pigs
Lov goats
Simple as
I used to work at a feed store and got to see goats and baby cows all the time
babi
I think I know the kind
PIGEE
i love goats
aesthetically strong
best livestock
Lost in the sauce
One of my fav videos
Ever see that video of the goat headbutting the bull and KOing the fuck out of it?
Freaky shit
Yep
fuck yeah
Goats dont fuck about
you also get to see my blurry arm
So polite
One of ur many
😳
Brainwaves
IT'S SO CUTE
the puppy eyes
dont get me wrong i'd still turn it into crackling but like
adorable
There was this huge fuckin lass named thalia at a vinery i used to work at
She was so good and sweet
Fuckin MASSIVE
No pig srry
aw
arm reveal 
Pet pigs are illegal around my parts i really wanted one when i was younger
We have this dog at the refinery my dad manages called Pashmak, which is farsi for cotton candy, and he reminds me a lot of this old shephard dog we used to have back on the farm in the north of Iran
I had to help corral the goats when I was a kid (like 9 yrs old)
and oh lordy the took me for a ride lmao
Now a ten year old, time be mobbin' ❤️
There was a super old mutt on my friends family farm in Palestine that i hung out with all the time
just read this. wtf is wrong with phill kelly
I wish my scorpions would come put for pictures they are so camara shy
Oi he made my ot3 canon apparently so dont be too mean
My RA at the dorm merked my scorpion within less than a week of having it with vinegar.
yeah phil is odd, tho most of that is honestly pretty chill imo
~excepting 40k end times~
~PHIL NO~
He just wants to blow it all up
reading htis post he seems to have not actually touched core 40k and just assumed that no books show sm as monsters because thats how the community show it
Wtf thats super shitty
Ah yea
Which bit are u referencing im confused
She was a shitheel, should have seen it coming
Gimme
Phil talks about people usually seeing space marines as heroes, but he likes to portray them in a different perspective
Being monsters
huh weird
but htats how they are shown anyway
Seeing that possum sparked a love of them I have never lost
atleast in the stuff i touch
yeah idk how much other stuff he's read lol
Yee
I had a mama possum with like 5 babs chillin on my porch a couple days ago
Was so cute
I mean they're portrayed as heroes in marketing
BABIES
and has gone "tau are the answer to fixing 40k and give us the ability to see the little guy fighting against the eldrtitch"
basically the more i read the more it sounds like he just wants to make the imperium but as "good guys"

perish
Whered that fuckin newspaper emote go
My ex's mother used to have a pet raccoon as a kid and I think may have had a litter(?) Its been a while and I forgetti, but point is, pet raccoon
🗞️?
I mean the imperium does kill all the cute tyranids so they sre automatically horrible monsters
tbh i no longer have the energy to care about smthn smthn [should the tau be presented as good]
correct
Just wanna rail[gun]
miss me with that oh no they dont fit into 40k they have to be totally evil D: nonsense
Real. Just make them realize they are small and just shush up and get to work building up
This is the advantage of playing cults
i'd rail anyone with a railgun
there lore is so open, I dont have to worry about any writer shitting them up
as i said before its not about the evil or good
sexually attractive damage profile
its about this author just being bad
Yee
Reeeee Tigershark!
I just want new necrons thats all i want
I just made my own sept army that can be anything cause fuck all is written about that sept
Those new necron tripods are my sexuality
Lov war of the worlds
The one with like 5 pistols is great
Never enough necrons
Like me wanting them as good or bad is another discussion
This feels like "well i want to write IG but i also want to be special so i'm not writing IG. Also chaos is icky so my people arent affected by it because they dont work like that"
In theory you could write a traitor regiment that wasn't chaos
That'd actually be pretty neat
it would wouldnt it?
Thats been done
Soul drinkers
the only war one is cool
Imo we also need traitor SM who aren't chaos
i do feel like the whole tau philosophy has the unique ability of sorta counteracting corruption is fairly interesting. Like, i like the idea of how the tau empire is basically designed from the ground up by the ethereals to be like, optimal
severane dominate
We have those
Gib a sec i was just reading this the other day
I mean he does say the gods have been messing with them but yea i just want to see more espionage and stuff
What a real woman into 40k. No boobsplate.
Did i heard Severan Dominate?!?!
oh dear no boobplate discussion pls
x)
Agreed
the gods have been messing with them but then "oh no he just is immune to it because of tau zen"
too
Thats true, i dislike that
POG POG POG
he even straight says "no chaos tau will exist in the books, they dont work like that"
tbh i dont see any real issue with that
maybe it's just the tau stan inside me but chaos tau would be janky af
I'm all in favour of shaming boobplate as impractical but literally everything in 40k is impractical so who gives a shit
yeaaaah like
Tau can be possessed, and influenced by chaos
the fact hes then using the chaos power to still boost their powers ratty but making them immune
the boobplates are the least offensive element of the SoB
looking at u organ rocket launcher
its literaly his OCs, leaning on self insertism
Yeah now that I think about it
How the fuck does a thunderhawk fly?
Farsight is starting to feel that way
antigrav in the wings?
I wonder how Exile will be
sorry am confused, do you mean farsight getting boosted by chaos nonsense?
Its engines are to small to get it off the ground (are we doing tbe meme)
Pseudo-science is not a save all
So the venom thornes are traitors but also not at all chaos
Tau aren't immune to chaos, they just aren't interesting to it... At least until now
him and kais
There are quite few instances of chaos taking an interest in them
there wont be chaos tau but they will benefit from the touch of the dark gods
well antigrav works in a lot of other things and tbh I can't think of any other explination off the top of my head
are tau just saiyans now
yeah i never interpreted it as an immunity thing. like, how phil seemed to present the thing with farsight is that he was set out a path by tzeentch&co (ur ethereals are dead, now fight a civil war) but he unknowingly turned away from it and just fucked off
which is like, p reasonable imo. it's not outright magical immunity to chaos nonsense
which kais
Probly due to thier wierd presence in teh warp probly somethign of a curiosity
This phill seems to like spit BS
wait so like, yeah idk
Nah, it is just that they are very minor, but the more you grow the more you attract attention
Is farsight actually getting boosted by chaos? He's getting boosted by his anime sword but idk if phil ever stated what that was
Alotta the lore im familiar with hints necrontyr
him and kais (the specific kais he tried to pact with with shadowsun)
I have to be honest. I really want to see chaos Tau
Firewarrior protag
Dont they power their ships with chaos gods tho
Also if i remember correctly red coursairs relictors and nights of blood are all renegade traitors but not chaos tainted
idk i think it would be redundant. like, ig it's possible in the fluff?
"-Kais is obsessed with being the perfect killing machine. The one man army. That's how he deals with the trauma of war. In his pursuit he had become something monstrous.. There is a sense of otherness about him. He is inhuman (enter the T'au equivalent of this word). Phil says it's possible that the touch of Khorne is upon him"
FOR KHORNE! fires ranged weapon
No!
we've had tau be possessed and they're clearly not like, warp resistant or nullifying like dwarves in fantasy
No they skim the warp likea stone skipping water
But i still think it would be silly
Im lacking in tau lore admittedly
huh weird
man why tf would you call a character kais
not great for readability there are like seven
Tau title/name
Yea
Its not the best haha
The chad many Kais'
@runic wharf its like mix of skimmin the warp combined with basicly railgun like acceleration
they place warp boyies to jump to
Tbh that Kais is a chad, i heard he could kill a space marine with a pulse pistol
But ye that's sorta odd but it doesn't seem that bad to me? Again like, nothing here seems to be implying that he thinks tau are completely warp resistant or nullifying
I heard he could take on a lord of change with a railrifle
Also took down a chaos dread single handedly🤣
just that the tau philosophy can sorta reverse uno card it in some capacity
The tau had, before retro engineering an imperial warp engine, a very weak "warp" engine, which didn't sent them into the warp, but just skimming it, that was what made their expansions slow
which i dont mind, the whole greater good gimmick is basically at the centre of the factions identity so making it do stuff is fair
THe tau also have one or two races that act as PSUEdo NAvigators
Shadowsun and farsight arnt fighting cause of ideals they are fighting to see who gets Kais’ railrifle 👀
SOme wierd floating space bears and like something else
I dig it
Also i just looked at my list sweet fuck there are alot of renegade non chaos astartes
do nicassar&co actually do anything for their warp travel? I remember it being fairly inconsistent
Nope, they have psychic client races, but not navigators
Thats why i said pseudo navigators cuz they use them for the same role
they should've just given the tau regular ass warp travel tbh, it's gotten so convoluted now
They dont use the warp, just push the ships with telekentics
The Tau's relationship with the warp is a super interesting aspect of the franchise that exactly 0 BL writers are interested in writing about
the only one allowed to is phil swift
Facts
And other material states that they skim on top of the warp, basically like a more lowkey version of proper warp travel
No they don't, that is what i mean, you cannot use psykers as navigators btw
lmao yeah
They handle it SO weird
THEY HAD SCIENTIFIC FTL BUT WE CANT HAVE SCIENCE IN THIS UNIVERSE
pretty sure that got retconned
like,, ok so the tau have multiple psychic races in their empire
THey chain their ships to the yachts of these floating space bears who do use the warpt o navigate actaully
I KNOW AND IM MAD
just like everything else that was cool about damocles gulf
u have nicassar that literally outright chat about the warp to u
in conversation
ask them how it works??
They just dont do it very often is the thing
It is the contrary, the tau tow those yatchts, as those yatchs would be extremely slow otherwise
how are they still being all confused by imperial miracles like oh no we have no idea how this works :( meanwhile a bunch of nicassar ships are trailing behind the main fleet being propelled entirely by psychic telekinesis
even just a short story about how the tau approach the warp would be nice cus idek how it's meant to work rn
The explanation is that they do know, but dont wanna fuck with it. The notion that the tau dont knoe the warp is so the imp doesnt get more scared
Also dead ass can some one explain to me how tau have ultra long range weapons but get out ranged by primaris on tabletop
Primaris absorb the rules of other xeno factions
“Tabletop” answered ur own question
primaris have everything™️
And other Imperium factions
Tau Naivete is something that gets pushed super hard in lore, despite the fact that the Tau have now had run-ins with every major faction except the necrons. The writers really just want the Tau to get shit on, while also being better then everyone else, while also being worse than everyone else. The Tau have lore so bad it makes C.S. Goto writing look good.
except for railguns get fucked gorillaboy
Allright maybe im misunderstanding how their ships work?
Wait i thought they fought them
So they dont use the warp but travel through convention space tugging their ship using telekenesis basicly?
Did they? I don't recall
Theres that pic of tau in close combat with them 😭
Man that stung
p much yeah. Like, i honestly wish they hadn't presented the tau as this ~v immature young naive race that's a tiny dot on the map~ in the first place
cus now they'll never break out of that identity despite having had their fluff developed for the last 19 years
Allright maybe im misunderstaing the way its written and im making assumption
So they dont use the warp but travel through convention space tugging their ship using telekenesis basicly?
I think it is
They have fought but its been minor I think
Sorry m8 didnt mean any offence
None taken its just truth hurts
but ye tau dont necessarily have like, super ridiculous insane range mostly? If they have any single gimmick it's probs consistently high S at range or smthn
plus markerlights
Its not even consistent
if they're still super essential
Ya theyre combat philosophy basicly literally avoiod close combat at all costs cuz its crude and barabaric
It used to be the same power as a bolter on our inf
And markerlights suck
aw
As far as tabletop is concerned, the Tau have great range & guns. The problem is that they can't sit on objectives, so they can't win games.
Hell if you play kill team markerlights are useless
Time to employ gigantic hordes of kroot™️
Like, it's cool that your gunline wiped half my squad, but my squad is still on the obj, so I win
I see it not so much them seeing it as crude, but more out of necessity after fighting the orks as the first main xeno encountered
at least their models are plastic now
Sadly Kroots are just expensive guardsmen with bolters
I think its more or less the actaul quote from various peices covering their views on close combat
Don't get me started on kroot
but ye if i ever do get around to making a proper 40k tau army i'll def make it shotgun tau
They cannot hold an objective like a bullgryn or bladeguard can
This. Tau suck because they cant hold ground. It says literally in the codex that they are bad at it lol
yeaaah that's sorta what i've heard
sad chicken noises
THey get katanas that a purely ceremonial even though they are functional in theory
So like Farsight that buffs all shortrange weapons ?
i can't remember all the sept modifiers tbh
i remember there being a better one for that somewhere tho? would have to check
The litereally only study close combat as a MARTAIL art like monks n shit do
Literally all the Tau need to be good is some 2 wound infantry with 3+ 4++ saves and no weapons
In standard table top they have good range but like someone said they get melted on an objective
Oh no , its jsut Farsight having a reroll auras for units using 18" or less range weapons
At least kroot look amazing
idk the kroot sculpts are getting on now
This is why we should all play neckrons and nids
Gimme a crisis suit with no jetpack and a shield
Ya mean 3 wounds right ?
They're not awful but they're p old
at least they're not resin like the fucking vespids
Kroot would be the only reason i play tau
depends on point cost
F's in chat for vespids lmaoooo
god
They should make subfactions a thing maybe
GW has forgotten they exist
Looking at undercosted bladeguards
I know they should bring it back
'member the errata recently that reduced the price of riptides by one point?
I 'member
I have literally no idea
I just wish ratlings was a faction i could play
is triptide still a thing?
I know right
I honestly wanna feild an army of jsut pgryns and ratlings
The fanon theory is that some gw employee had a 2001 point tau list
i buy it
have ratlings riding ogryns with miniguns strapped to their backs
They wanted to round the points
honestly not implausible
Doesn't take a genius to see that
ah yes the imperial krootox
But taus don't need a point decrease, they need new units and a whole faction rework
They need a meatwall that doesn't suck
Gundams are nice but they need more empathise on auxiliaries
I think we just became best friends
Honestly literally give them poxwalkers and they become a decent faction
like, i love the gundam models and all but still
Or better
indeed
USE THE GODDAMN GUNDAMS IN MELEE
thats kinda what i mean by subfactions
the tau faction identity used to be it was like, the multi species covenant-like combined arms vibe
YOU HAVE FARSIGHT AND BLADE SOMETHING
remember in DoW when the big ultimate tau unit was a melee kroot unit
If they sold a riptide with a chain katana I'd buy one just to paint it
Ight this here rx-78 is not a imperial night deal with it lmao
now it would just be a gundam like 60% of their roster
All praise the gaint murderchicken
that would be too weeby tbh
Just give the Taus a group of gundams specialised in melee with a fusion blade and a special shield they'd be great
Give the tau a new flying unit that is literally just the battleship Yamato
Glaives
lol
I want and ork that just has a slingshot with a grot in it
A crisis suit with no jetpack and a ccw and shield thats all i want
Okay but hear me out right more ork meme models
Fly over the enemy fodder and charge the commander
We gotta bring the grot catapults from fantasy to 40k
You mean that ork weapon that teleports the grotz ?
So you could end up teleporting it inside the guy and killing him instantly ?
theres also grot cannons
Like orks carrying a bombsquig like a football
I mean we have the grotlauncha
The flying orks with rockets on their backs are hilarious.
Flyboyz
Love them
Plus now the squigbombs are back
Thus why i want a boy carrying one like a foot ball
Shit u right my bad
Orks are cool in general
i adore how ork aircraft is unironically more feasible looking than imperial stuff
they have actual wings! and are mostly flat!
aren't a brick
God that comic is soo good
I love orks so much
Nicassar don't use the warp to travel no, they use their telekinesis to propel their ships, and they go in hibernation during long voyages... When they are part of a tau fleet they get towed since otherwise they are too slow
One more ork pic cause i love thought out sci fi mechanical stuff, but its also ork stupidity
Gholy shite this thing is huge haha
110 ft long
With a 170 wingspan
God, I love Deffsquadron
im always down to discuss the best official media GW has made
Deff Skwadron and like.... Whats it called? That Tancred endures one were some of the bests
fuck yeah
Deff Skwadron is based as hell
did the orks so much justice
at the end of the day, mekboys pray to mork(or gork) as hard as anyone else
new pfp 1 sec
there we goes ladz
'ere we go
honestly... I have no idea how that would go 
Wasn’t there something about loyalist orks or something once?

Yeah lmfao
Jesus this guy's entire account is just
posting "Rule [insert number here]" on posts 
Oh god lmao I didn't see that
@glad prism I acquired the sleeps btw
Based sleeper
Excellent news indeed, most based of dreamers

holy shit the peak of no fun allowed lmao
This is why you're a good mod incan 
Excuse me but you have violated rule 48 subsection 23 subclause B fourth order F-29 of r/40klore by implying space marine bad. I will now have to execute my moderator privileges.
40klore just kind of a lame subreddit ngl
Nah like
It has it upsides
But half of the posts are just primarch excerpt
8.k upvotes
Only upside is for reading excerpts from books I don't wanna buy
I have almost every 40k novel on pdf now
legit sounds like a star wars lore reddit but memeing on the prequels is banned
aka fucking boring
100k upvotes DAE find it hilarious when Jaghatai roast fulgrim!!! 😂 😂
First comment is "Lol Fulgrim gay and that bad" with 10k upvotes
Just visit the prequel meme subreddit
like a good 60%+ of lore in warhammer, star wars etc. all reads like a shitpost so if you can't meme on it idk what the point is
^
And I'm saying this with Jaghatai being my favourite Primarch, being Mongolian myself and all that
Jaghatai was the one at fault there 
Yeah he literally gets hostile for no reason when fulgrim was just making a comment
Also it wasn't even a gay joke
Okay that could be a gay joke tho
It was about gene-warriors
reminder
Gene sperm
Yeeee lolol
but yeah r40klore is shit mostly
go and take a look at the new posts now
half of them are stupid nonsense 
It has some gems, especially the turbo tinfoil hat posts
OLD ONES MAN
But like anything in 40k, a good half belongs in the trash
Some dude went through a theory that etherials are 'fixed' necrontyr which I really enjoyed
Big chungus
Fulgrim, trying to break the tension and knowing the Khan recently had the Swordstorm finished: "So brother I heard you pimped your ride recently?"
**Jaghatai: **"What the fuck did you just fucking say about me, you little bitch? I'll have you know I rode front of my horde on Chogoris, and I've been involved in numerous secret raids on the Southern Emperors, and I have over 3,000,000 confirmed kills. I am trained in gorilla warfare and I'm the top duelist in the entire Imperium. You are nothing to me but just another target. I will wipe you the fuck out with precision the likes of which has never been seen before on Ullanor, mark my fucking words. You think you can get away with saying that shit to me over a triumph? Think again, fucker. As we speak I am contacting my secret network of Keshig across the Segmentum Obscurus and your Flagship is being traced right now so you better prepare for the storm, maggot. The storm that wipes out the pathetic little thing you call your life. You're fucking dead, kid. I can be anywhere, anytime, and I can kill you in over seven hundred ways, and that's just with my bare hands. Not only am I extensively trained in unarmed combat, but I have access to the entire arsenal of the White Scars legion and I will use it to its full extent to wipe your miserable ass off the face of the galaxy, you little shit. If only you could have known what unholy retribution your little "clever" comment was about to bring down upon you, maybe you would have held your fucking tongue. But you couldn't, you didn't, and now you're paying the price, you goddamn idiot. I will shit fury all over you and you will drown in it. You're fucking dead, kiddo"
Thanks friend
Jaghatai is still the most based primarch but he definitely overreacted there lmao
Now that I think about it my favourite primarchs all have severely overreacted to relatively benign statements from Fulgrim
🤔
Shame Fulgrim cant be defended either since his entire character purpose is to fall to chaos
deep writing
He is also the most forgetable one tbh
chaos sword go brrr
With Mayo, I'm practically a clairvoyant.
Oh yeah I forgot about him


Ferrus Manus, so forgettable he got named after his one trait
And his sons all have crippling bodily dysmorphia. That's about it.
Actually he had a good thing going about the Necrodermis slowly killing him and making him into some sort of Angron
Ferrus is like Perturabo but he can't jack off because of his hands so he's extra angry all the time and significantly less competent.
I did not like his primarch novel very much.
Failsons, I stand by this.
[insert cyberpunk theme here]
Jaghatai seems a rather balanced primarch
The entire ferrus novel is him yelling and getting mad no one wants to do mma with him.
LOL
He could, he just wouldn't be happy about it.
ngl id believe that
Relative to the rest.
Daww
Once it goes crooked, he just has to beat it back to shape, so at that point, I can't say I blame him despite how utterly forgettable he is for the most part.
Jaghatai got all the "weird but cool" genes while Mortarion just got the "weird and not cool" genes from Big E
okay controversial opinion
Big E should have just got rid of Morty
coolest legion, lamest traitor
"uwu you took my kill dad"
yeah ill let you die next time then you little shit

Big E should've roped himself and let Big G and Pert take over

It's amazing how literally all his kids hate him except the glue eater.
Yes I am calling Dorn a glue eater despite him being my 3rd favourite primarch.
He definitely ate glue on Inwit.
You know you love something when you can call it out for what it is.
Of all the primarchs to waste glue, dorns at the bottom of the list tho
I genuinely forget dorn has a homeworld
That's why he ate it.
Glue IV drip
Reminder it's canon that dorn has a blankie
I think it was, storywise, to hammer home how the Emperor doesn't give a shit about anyones feelings.
Sigismund might get his hands on the glue and do something stupid afterall 
Which is understandable.
on the note of controversial topics here's my primarch tier list :^)
Russ and the Space Wolves are really lame in my eyes.
LORGAR?!
He's a super well written Primarch.
Really enjoyable to read about and very charismatic, memes aside.
It's hard to find anything I dislike about Lorgar... actually.
He's just a cool character.
GET EM BOYS
He does dunk on Fulgrim and an Avatar of Khaine, as well as several Greater Daemons. But who hasn't at this point lmao.
Emperor: Dont do this.
Lorgar: Ok I'll do it more from now on.
Emperor: mad about him doing it
Lorgar: :(
Honestly though yeah Lorgar is cool, one of my favorite changes is him trying to take over Horus but just says "alright i got my ass beat, this isnt my fight im just gonna leave. Good luck with the siege horus lmao"
Lmao yeah who doesn't dunk on avatar of angry metal boi tho
smartest man next to Perty
who doesnt dunk on an avatar of khaine tho
Lorgar: Hey dad, are you a god?
Emperor: No, but you must establish a cult of personality around me, and I have massive temples and monuments built in my image and honour, and I constantly appear to you and mortals as glowing, golden, bastions of light and goodness.
Lorgar: 
i think ive only ever read a single book where it wins a fight
It is expected
@coarse mirage My response to the whole "just listen to Big E lmao" with Lorgar is that when you wind up with the genetic compulsion that makes you want to deify things and your dad presents himself as a deity in all but name it do be difficult.
I am skelpharius
Lorgar is a cool character imo because he's clearly in the wrong but you can understand and work out to some degree how he got there.
I just read the second one as the most cursed rendition of champignon and I will now make it your problem as well.
the best villains are ones that even if they are wrong you can understand
MushroOmegon
Shroomers
even if you go "thats a stupid conclusion" as long as it has "I can see how someone would come to think that"
True. Makes me wonder if the Emperor even knew what he was doing when making the primarchs, since he objected to what some of them did, eve nthoug he apparently made them to do that.
He definitely appeared differently to at mininum Perturabo and Lion
and Russ but fuck that guy
its the same as people going "lmao why doesnt thanos just make infinite resources"
because you know
thats not what he wants lol
A lot of the good primarchs have a overarching background theme of "Nature vs Nurture" that I think is cool.
The ones I don't like tend to lack them.
Guilliman came out the best
why doesn't he just snap the perfect kebab into reality?
I don't get these villains
Who knew living in a function utopia with stable parents results in a stable child.

I KNOW RIGHT
thats cause guillimans HH book was written by dan abnett
looks at camera

how did Emo grow up?
I'm already here???

Are you greasy and slowly spinning?
Corax?
in the summer sure
Yes, mister Raven Raven.
i almost thought you meat Emu
How I hate his name.
but he basically grow up under prison slavery
then led a revolt
and hes actually incredibly chill
just ultra serious when the need for it arises
He even plays vidyageims with guilliman!
He's perma dead?
Yeah hes uh
one of the few primarchs that just ignored the evils of the Imperium knowing it would be fixed later when the crusade was over
so about that

I like the Raven Guard for being somewhat unconventional
And almost a bit too warpy
Based
Yeah i forget they're up there with salamanders when it comes to being mostly good guys
Perturabo: Groomed to be a living weapon of War
Angron: Nails.
Mortarion: Born into a cult of necromancers
Konrad: Lived isolated in a city ridden with crime with no guidance
Jaghatai: Grew up with massive anti-authoritarian values against Emperors and Rulers
Corvus: Grew up in an Imperial jail, hated it
Lion: Lived most of his life in the woods like a damn cave man
Ferrus: Couldn't yank his schmeat
Fulgrim: Raised into a cult of personality around himself
Lorgar: Groomed to be a priest of Chaos
Magnus: Lived in a psychic based society
Horus: Grew up in Space-Detroit
Guilliman, who lived in Post-resource Utopian-Futurist Rome: Why can't you guys act more like me?
This kills me every single time.
Erda really did ruin all of them
Yeah.
Pert just kind of got cucked by landing on a medieval world instead of literally anywhere else
Emperor realy played favorites didnt he
Pert turned out remarkably well given his circumstances which often gets overlooked.
Step sister
Hard times can make you or break you
Well.,...
SOme people come out stronger and wiser, others just get fucked up.
People just kind of forget that... Olympia was civil war Greece on Steroids and Pert was groomed by his step-dad to become a weapon of war.
Everyone seemed to think Olympia was rly peaceful for some reason.
We all know why this distinction was made, and I wanna kms now
Yeah that too
All pert needed was like
some people saying he did fucking great
even a single shoulderpat from the Emperor would do
You're welcome
but nah go die over there
Angron just wanted his buddies alive
Ok but tbf to Dammekos
Picture this scenario
You command a city state in a planet wide civil war that's last hundreds of years
and then this 12 foot tall goth kid climbs up a fucking mountain cliffside with his bare hands, with a beheaded dragon
kills your guards, barges into you palace
and immediately points out all the flaws in your defensive architecture
... pretty easy to want to turn him into a living weapon
He's the most failson of the failsons but I love that about him.
And yeah, hard to fault him at times
Angron "life is pain, i HATE-"
Flashback to that time Russ had Remembrancers call Perturabo an "unnamed ally" during a campaign with the Orks despite the fact that Perturabo was the one who organized the campaign and lead it to victory.
LOL

WOW
thats... yeah
I know russ was petty but getting the historians involved in it? Yikes
When i get depressed over angron's backstory i just read his dornian heresy wiki, just fills me with joy and feels like actual therapy
Historical revisionism at work
If i buiod chaos, im going for khorn and angron
But the fact that this was (according the Black Book 3) not exactly an exceptional circumstance a ton of primarchs probably did it too 
It should come as no surprise honestly
they need you to be sympathetic
Its just another thing on the laundry list of reasons that Pert would be made to feel alienated over.
so everyone needs to suddenly be an asshole at the same time to the same person
feel sad for pert >: (
mean
Angron just needs to take a Xanax.
Jaghatai and Guilliman both did it at least once.
Pls!
Guilliman should be in Black Book 6 either Mezoa Campaign or Ultrmarines Section
"In this latter incident for example, although before Perturabo and the Iron Warriors' arrival in the war zone, Overdog Mashogg's vast orbital defenses had previously repulsed attack after attack from both the Space Wolves and White Scars. Perturabo, whose plan succeeded in breaking the line and allowing for the Orks' slughter is recorded in contemporary chronicles by his brothers only as a "nameless comrade-in-arms"'
Black Book 3, Page 111
@storm jungle
My favourite part about Black Book 3's interpretation of Perturabo
is that he straight up doesn't fuck with anyone
Everyone just gangs up on him 
Because he decimated his legion
Oh god absolutely
But Ferrus is also a dick.
i think he deserved all the shit he got for that decimation thing
just unhonor them or someth,ng why the fuck do you make them beat each other to death
Ferrus's own kids are worse
Like father like son
The way I see Perturabo's mentality of decimation is this:
- You kill off the weakest link --> Great success!
- You don't kill off the weakest link, but it pushes your warriors to greater performance --> Great Success!
- You don't kill off the weakest link, and someone protests. Now you know which one of your marines to send on a suicide mission. --> Great Success!
He also knew he could devise a logistical system to have them increase their legion size by almost 7 times, so it was sustainable in both the short and long run for decimation.
Instead of just purging specific demographics like Terrans with Corvus or Horus, Perturabo just killed off 3,000 marines and got what he wanted out of his legion.
I remember that book about the Trickster space wolf and how he talked about "Fuck Russ and that shit".
Imo this is where Pert's 'tism really kicks in
"Why are you getting mad at me guys? Corvus had to kill 20,000+ Terrans by sending them on suicide mission to maintain order in his legion, I only had to kill 3,000!"
Perturabo really thinkin' ahead of his time
YEP
Of course Pert was also a recluse and a fucking nerd
So he was bound to be disliked.
All Primarchs deserve to be ridiculed
From above, the feast resembled nothing so much as a mechanism of many parts. He could see the wheels of influence and aggression upon which the whole of the Aett turned. He wasn’t the only one who could see them – even he wasn’t so arrogant to think that. But he fancied that he was the only one who saw them for what they were. A trap. A trick, played on those long-dead warriors by their Wolf King.
Russ had taken a legion of brutal killers and convinced them that they were heroes. He had twisted the ancient superstitions and sagas of Fenris into a cage of words to contain his wild sons. It was a chain of illusion, holding them fast, though they could neither see it nor feel it.
All except Lukas. He rubbed the back of his neck, as if he could feel the collar chafing him.
for you btw
love this part
He joins Lion in the "Really needs socializing Lessons" club.
What could've happened between Magnus and Pert in Magnus' novel
Magnus: Perturabo, you must help me by building this arcane mechanism only you have the affinity to create, for our quest of knowledge!
Perturabo, with talking lessons: Magnus, you are brother and I care deeply for you, but our duty is to the citizens of the Imperium, you cannot disregard them for our quest!
What actually happened
Perturabo: Bautista bombs the Mechanism in Magnus' face after taking weeks to make it THIS IS FOR THE CIVILIANS BITCH
Yeah I remember the part
Lukas had his little group of followers
He's very clearly a Loki-like character
this is art
Damn, now i love Perturabo even more, after him smashing the face of fulgrim he also punched magnus because he disregarded civilians lives... Fuck the imperium, i'm joining the humanity lead by Perturabo now
Only logic and reason, and tech, and no gods... Fuck them too
In my HC Perturabo is gonna go away from chaos and create a federation in the imperium nihilus, where religion is forbidden and innovations is permitted
It would create another human faction that isn't so hell bent on religion
I'm pretty amused that, from listening to the Horus Heresy on Audiobook, that Lucius has apparently always been a massive shit.
:C
Like...
Its pretty clear how destined most of the Traitor legions were to go traitor, with only a few actually having a pretty solid case for going traitor beyond the plot demanding they do so.
I would say that you are boring, but that would be a lie
lmao, thanks i think
I feel like you're asking for it when you have a Legion that believes its own hype so much that it basically suffers a spiral of ego-inflation until it basically explodes (Emperors Children)
...Although the Dark Angels apparently were on a similar track until they suffered Ego-death at the hands of... The Rangda? The Megarachnids? I forget who whooped their asses, but I remember they sorta reformed after that.
Fuck.
Way too tired to talk about shit I'm still learning.
The Rangda, that's the one.
Uh... I think
It was i
Yes, this can not be mentioned enough, what a serious piece of shit he is.
I will never not kek that the Dark Angels were so beat up by a bunch of fox furry xenos

Would you mind pointing me to where they're described as fox men? Like I know they were anthropomorphic, had mimicry abilities. But fox furry men?
Another converted to the cause 
Converted? I was already liking Perturabo after reading better his history
But for sure that event just cemented more my interest in him
So much wasted potential, and unrecognized greatness
Also he like Leonardo Da Vinci stuff, which i also share as interest
My tweet about intestinal gas got liked by Guy Haley, so if anyone needs me I'll be in Hollywood living the good life
Thorakites time
What did you tweet exactly to become famous?
Something along the lines of "My fav thing about Godblight is googling a word I don't recognize every 10 minutes only to find out it's just a different way of saying 'intestinal gas'."
OK, that's funny XD
Oh nurgle
Maccabian Janissaries time
why do Kriegers wear their gasmask all the time?
They're dehumanized
They don't really regard themselves as people, they regard themselves as slabs of meat who exist to fight and die
So the gas mask goes in hand with that outside of the practical purpose of always being prepared for a gas attack
Do they though?
Incase they run into enviromental hazards. On the world they are born/trained on, everywhere outside of a handful of populated zones is 1 big enviromental hazard zone
^
Yep
Feels like it'd be a detriment in other situations
Not when you have worn it for essentially your entire life
It is a detriment in some areas yeah
They are kinda like the Quarians from Mass Effect
They're borderline suicidal though not to a stupid extent, their commissars are noted as being "voices of reason" amongst them to prevent suicide charges when there might be a more efficient way to the same result
Like seeing and breathing properly
buuut the kriegers dont really care
video shows a SNIPER in a gasmask
its a like, tradition thing. a self punishment for their prior sins
They're used to wearing them 24/7
which is all kinds of stupid
I don't think it matters how used to it you are, you're still not gonna see well and if you run for any length of time you're gonna be done
Its literally nothing but just for aesthetic purposes
Also the Imperium is less about practicality and more about aesthetic in fluff
They're explicitly not reasonable
thats pretty much it
As someone who has training to fight in a gas mask, yeah. Difficult. But thats from my handful of hours of training for Qual. someone who has trained for years (basically their whole life). and with appropriately designed optics. I could see it being functional
Would it be more likely that they use it to hide what they look like underneath?
Not really. They dont care that much
They look pretty normal underneath from my understanding
^
i just think it looks cool, and that's all i really care about at the end of the day
There is the fact that it's pretty heavily implied that most kriegers are vat grown clones but they don't really care about that and the imperium wouldn't either
Yeah its a case of like asking in star wars why dont storm troopers remove their helmets.
They have in-lore uses
It looks cool
They are noted as having eugenics programs specifically to prevent/reverse DNA damage or mutation in their genomes
But SW is exceptionally stupid with that stuff.
Since lives are seen as currency by the Imperium and kriegers are the only ones who are totally okay with that and willing to embrace it
because their culture is fucking insane
Troopers can't even fucking look down sights
NO
THERE IS A LIMIT TO MY SUSPENSION
aaaaAAA-
The Death Korp's gasmasks would be easier to get a good sight picture out of than Stormtrooper helmets
"Remember, these are the Emperor's 'best' troops." If by best, you mean worst then yes, they are. They are several characters who are easily killed. The Empire's foot soldiers. The Nazis of a galaxy far, far away....
They're so pathetic, that if they tried committing suicide, they'd miss their own heads and it would land on a wall. Mike, Kevi...
part of the reason i like death korps is simply because i think they look cool, and their forge world models are pretty cool as well
Plus he about has the sight right up against his gas mask's lense
Which works with a lasgun as it has no recoil, I admit.
If you get antsy about stormtroopers and krieg gas masks wait until you see khorne berserkers and rubrics having headcrests that should cause them to fall over
It has some
Rubrics are made of dust. Berserkers are made of anger.
You can see his shoulder jerk from the recoil
Kharn falls over due to his helmet crest
As soon as something is Chaos, it can be as stupid as it wants.
Gets angry at this design choice and falls into a state of rage
Maybe they're hollow
I've often thought about the kind of body movements space marines wouldnt be able to make
Space marine armor in general isn't practical looking
Like, can they lift their arms above their heads?
Idk but I want a writer to write a story where the marines can't lift their arms over their heads
I think their pauldrons have some system of gyros underneath
I recall they're magnetic
Damn I just noticed something. Even the Death Korps helmets arent completely german. They have that flange at the top of the french helmets
The Death Korp really are more french than greman
yea
always have been
british and french
the fighting style too lol
I thought the long coat was big enough
With a salting of American. Their lasguns look like BARs
- bayonet
The bayonets are German tho, but with a British 1907 blade
Also the name of their lasguns are a ref to both germany and british. the pattern number "No. 98"
Referencing the Smle No. 1, and the Gewehr 1898. The British and german rifles
Always have been 🔫
mostly brit and french
Aside from them having a planet named in german
British gas mask
like i said, even the fighting style
the brits and french still thought of combat like Napoleonic
mass wave charge
French Dragoons for the Death Riders








