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I wonder how Tau escaped the crusades
you could invite them and they'd still never show up ever
i just wanna vibe with my dinosaurs
they're like, waaaay in the corner of the galaxy basically
honestly them putting me on a table would be boring by their standards
or they're meant to be anyways im p sure on actual maps they're like right next to ultramar
lol
yeah like, what's preferable here
Not prior to HH is what I'm getting at
deal with the four hive fleets and seven ork WAAAGHs currently turning eight sectors into paste
Or were they still just fish
or deal with a bunch of blueberries who assimilate a planet ocne every like generation
I prefer the Imperium
They were basically just one planet and primitive, a single world like that would just be impossible to notice
Tau were never fish, they just have marine based names for vehicles so ppl got confused
and yeah
they just capture my imagination more
they were like. 1000BC level at 35Kish
Tau worlds can at least be reclaimed, sa opposed to hivefleets eating your planet, chaos turning them into daemon worlds, or orkz uh.. being orkz on your planet
That's why I think the stc theory has credence
It's one of those theories like "tyranids are running from a bigger threat"
it has no real basis
So It's just speculation
Also a single STC wouldn't advance the tau like they have
imperium explorator shows up, marks the primitive world for annexation, then a warp storm swallows the whole area
imperium forgets they exist
It could give them the legs to get their own tech
5k years later they show up with railguns
Or they could just be a unified society by the ethereals, which allows them to advance faster.
first time I have come across that one and I will admit that my heart skipped a beat reading that 
Which does have basis in lore.
and yeah idk the STC thing doesn't really do anything for the tau
Imagine how far humanity would go if we were wholly united as a planet
Then you have a image of the post-ethereal tau
like, they're a very fast technlogically advancing faction in any case, it's sorta baked into their identity
yeah the entire point of the tau's evolution is they actually united and just spammed engineer classes to build marvels
ERECTING A SENTRY
TAU GAMING
SALTZPYRE NOISES
But going from primitive to Tau is a large leap, there has to be some mineral/resource or something that explains it
but yeah like if you took our world and literally threw all the smart engineers from around the world to a single department im sure they'd show the same results
i think
3000 years is plenty of time for a society to advance
What explains it is the tau are a v technologically inclined, united and efficient race and like
yeah
they had about 5000 years to get where they are now
The pyramids are like 4500 years old, and we aren't even fully united
Yet we've gotten this far
They had 5000 years to get average bs4
LMAO
it makes up for it
I got t5 on the Boyz now
drukhari poison
Lasguns haven't changed efficiency against Orks
S3 against t4 or t5 equals 5s to wound either way
Theyre s3 so going to t5 they still wound on 5s
ah
tfw cathay
Tfw we will get another three kingdoms before another shogun
I look forward to the day
dong zhuo is just an ogre
There's also a literal Japan area in Cathay iirc
there's an area for p much every ~vague eastern area~
Atleast there was in the warband mod lol
cathay is china, nippon is japan, ind is india, the other one is southeast asia ig
yes GW is very imaginative
Very excited
Three Kingdoms some of my fave aesthetics
Historically
Also mythologically
Ancient china just had a lot of swagger yeah
what year was that made in?
Recently cant remember when exactly
Recently, from memory.
not suprising
Huge ass Guan Yu
Guan Yu being the god of brotherhood and kinship is a lot cooler than god of war, just sayin'.
U right
Brotherhood and kinship? Sounds kinda like family
I love gods that have alot of domains
Like rather than just 1
Esp if theyre odd or conflicting someyimes
THat's what's so powerful about it
Guan Yu was such a badass that he was deified.
Although, whether he was a real person I think is still debated.
Three Kingdoms is a period wreathed in mystery.
If he did exist, and if what half he is said to have done is true? He deserves to be deified.
I dont think anyone is worshipping the figure.
I assume he means deified in the sense that figures like Caesar are
Not seen as gods or worshipped, but seen as great men of legends
Ah okay
Yeah he/she was a dick
Venerated
But they also did pretty notorious things that we need to study
Yee
that kinda thing
Guan Yu should also be considered the god of big ego 
Anyone read godblight?
I have
Fuck Chaos fanboys, they chose the wrong faction
"Wahhhh wahhhh give us more victories"
The grimdark shit is what ruins 40k anyway, most people like 40k because they like the Imperium, so it's good to see them winning

I don't think they mean literally as in "Made him a god."
But more to do with "Believes more people should be like."
Which is inherently weird given Guan Yu was very singular and was exceptional because he was so singular.
I don't get why people don't like grimdark in 40k
But I guess they meant more his general arch of being loyal.
Didn't 40k basically coin the term
Most people are fine with it
I think It's a very
group who arent
Though there are certainly grimpderp moments which are just
bad writing problems
not really a problem with being grim
Sui Dynasty moment
50% of why im here is for the grimdark? thats what makes it funny
the other 50% is for the xenos
If you removed space marine stats, xenos would out number the imperium
If I'm not wrong, this is why Guan Yu, Liu Bei, and Zhang Fei are considered the "Protagonists" of the Romance of the Three Kingdoms.
In terms of popularity
It's not really fair to compare the entire imperium's popularity to any one xeno
Since it's a uh
category
Even then saying "most" people play for imperium is probably a stretch, considering chaos too
Basically, someone played favorites with history.
Even though the peach tree ceremony folks didn't even win. They didn't even out live the war.
Like, I whole heartedly believe that part of the Romance is true.
Nobody with any context to the start of the Three kingdoms period lives to see it finished.
You were going to anger the IG stan in me
DFHSN
I mean yeah but it doesn't make it good
Funny?
It's pretty hilarious yeah
yea
People like 40k because they like seeing the Imperium purge
It's mainly because during the Ming Dynasty (when pseudo-historical fictional plays set during the time period really took off) didn't recognize Cao Wei as the legitimate successor to the Han, so all the plays at the time, including RoTK had Liu Bei and the gang as the good guys while putting Cao Cao etc as bad.
Yeah because how bad they make it
Whatever
...Not really? Not for the reasons you imply.
the absoulte hellfest that this universe is, is hilarious
Drukhari are imo the funniest faction in 40k since they're so over the top silly
Like, the 1st drukhari codex may be the funniest literature to ever come out of 40k
Chuds get ejected from the Fandom like shots out of a rail gun anymore.
It's more of a serious military scifi universe, at least now
get purged wait what?
Maybe not 30 years ago
I think we have a smoothy
Ah, I see.
If RoTK was written in say, the Jin Dynasty, I wouldn't be surprised if Cao Cao was the protagonist.
u say that now lol
Huh
I been known but it's like
Yeah, that does make sense.
a level of smooth that I wouldn't even interact with
mhm
Like steam forums smooth
Also, Chaos rules! >:D
LOL

ye iron warriors 4 lyfe
Would you prefer the Imperium be on a slowly losing defense?
yes
Nothing wrong with that
I mean the Imperium almost got destroyedin dark imperium
what the fuck am i reading
bruh
i think that there are some good plot points in it, and the whole belief deal is kinda neat to explore, but it shouldnt mean that they go all super sayian
capital B Bruh moment
Now people understand why I fear krieg getting plastic and becoming the new cadian and ig poster boys
Yep
stop making me want nitro for these emotes lol
haha
So you would prefer the Imperium keep losing???
@frosty cobalt Have u done the 3 months free thing yet?
kinda yea thats the whole point
That's hwo I got my nitro
There are alot of salty sandras on this server. Hate most of 40k lore.
how*
Epic has a 3 months free of nitro thing
^
If you're okay with epic
i mean the imperium being a collapsing empire has been a central thing in 40k since the first rulebook was published in 1987
That's why I have nitro rn x)
ah ill check it out
ikr
yea not to be a radical but i dont want the fascistic imperialist empire to win?
I think Chaos is cool. Imperium is alright but not my favourite.
I wonder where they come from ๐ค
I assume one of medic's braintumors sloughed off and grew up into this new one
its a cool theme and aesthetic but i dont want them as the good guys
But lore changes.
Name a faction who arent that
nids
I've been playing Chaos for 11 years so Imperium can suck it >:D
Ignore that I have 4000 points of White Scars
GW has gotten out of its edgy teenage phase and acknowledges that the Imperium is the protagonist people want to see win, instead of constantly being on the defense, constantly being "doomed"
what
i mean hold on
we are on a 40k discord...
maybe he's serious
That's true
it's a 40k discord
@karmic stump you do realize that "the imperium is doomed" has been a "tell, don't show" thing for well over a decade at this point right
Heads up. Unless you just want to get a migraine here. Just say that the Eldar are the greatest faction. Space marines are the worst faction. and AoS is better than 40k in every way. Its how convos tend to go here
lol
that's right heelboy, lick lick
Wdym we IG stans here
That's tru
like most stories have been "imperials kick someone's ass" and everyone who isn't imperial usually gets treated as a sort of "npc" compared to it
The IG stans get by just fine
and then at the end
yea ig for lyfe
"oh but remember the imperium is doomed"
IG represent
You fail to acknowledge stuff like chaos and plague marines
Cadian stans. Not so much IG
plague marines?
Because apparently its 100% okay for all regiments to be retconned into Cadia-clones
the funniest thing is that I'm p sure every IG player here has more investment than medic
cries in steel legion
Plague marines are marines devoted to nurgle...you don't even know lore????
We know the lore but who questions plague marines 
I meant what does that have to do with what I said
Bouhouhou cadian pattern armmor bouhouhou
damn didnt know abbadon made paint outta the planet
AGHNG
Plague marines and others like berserkers are always portrayed as "more powerful" than standard marines, chaos is always portrayed as "more powerful" and so are xenos. The imperium is constantly getting its ass kicked. Wtf are you smoking to claim the Imperium wins most conflicts?
I feel like you are twisting lore to suit some narrative
lol
this has to just be one of medic's alts
aside from a few bl novels
I shit you not, he stirs bait and only medic responds
It's that or he's some spawnling
Chaos is constantly like
"I dont like this particular lore. therefor it must be bait". Gotta love PJC's logic
Portrayed as a cartoon villain who constantly gets foiled aside from the fall of cadia, look at vigilus for how shit turned right back around to the status quo
Im late
but jesus christ
And xenos have been shit on for years lmao
stop mentioning the eldar already
uh
lmao
anyways
Always to make marines more powerful looking
Unleashing the finale
Anyone wanna read a fan codex I've been writing for my IW homebrew? Only a few pages as its rly WIP.
sure
They are on the tabletop which is said by GW to be the true lore
Thanks mate
nice escapades pfp btw
Dante soloed the swarmlord when Calgar couldn't, Ghaz got his head chopped off like a bitch (albeit to Ragnar which makes it less painful than it would've been otherwise), the Eldar can't catch a break and have been worfed into oblivion, etc
https://docs.google.com/document/d/11bOF05JIGNsQbXiF6OPnjWku6w9PoqYViRKxVKr3DJ8/edit?usp=sharing
Only 5 pages rn but I'm trying to make it feel like a codex ๐
IRONCLAD RAIDERS OF REAL-SPACE Ripping into the materium in rusted metal behemoths and innumerable strike craft, the Iron Reivers are the thrice-damned sons of the Fourth Legion. Condemned to eternal punishment by their primarch, the bastard sons of Perturabo fight tooth and claw for survival, su...
Allow me to deconstruct your points
oh god
Good
They haven't but okay
This is entertaining, watching yall jump in someone else's shit for once. Like wow. Looking at it from the 3rd person.
Marines get shit on, read up on Lamenters
Good.
my brain
Isnt the lamenters lore like 12 y old now ?
You do realize that you can't have good opponents for the Imperium if the opponents aren't threatening, right?
Also "they aren't"
They get shit on in lore and then don't get model updates for years at a time
Who cares about models? This is about lore
The models are like the core of 40k that's why it exists
"Marines dont get shit on"
Me: casually watches the Scythe of the Emperor get absolutely wiped out and their home system scoured of all life by the Nids. Even as they desperate but fruitlessly try and protect something of it.
That's why the bolter looks like it does
That's decades old lore
Which is good it's great
So is the badab war
ah yes a tiny side chapter gone, what a blow to the imperium
now contrast that with the second war for damnos
GW literally said lore is only here to sell minis
Where the ultramarines, after losing in the first war for damnos, come back and wipe out the planet with like 200 marines
also good shit, the bottom of the barrel of an already mistreated group
And calgar uses a necron arc pylon like master chief handles a machinegun turret
Okay then
casually watches the Imperial Fists get wiped out by the Orkz and a bunch of randos from other chapters having to get dressed up like them so that people dont know they got wiped
Gauss pylon*
Good
That was literally thousands of years ago
It looks like it does because of good designers who know how to make stuff look simple and great
๐ฟ
because it has to be simple
that was the war of the beast yea? something as big as the heresy which almost wiped out legions? sounds about right
because it's for toy soldiers
Thanks! 
The 114th Grand Battalion is my favourite Grand Company in the lore, and I built my 30k IW based off of its traitor elements. I've recently been updating my 40k army so it continues the narrative for my 30k one.
Narik's boyos
Its a solid army too โค๏ธ

Narik? He's a traitorous dog. Ker Thelon 4 lyfe 
Jk, Narik's probably my second favourite IW
Dantioch is my fav. Followed by Kyr Vhalen
(in before someone gets salty about talking positive about space marines)
yall teach me so much, if uHh and medic over here tried to teach me lore id probably think humans where the only ones in the galaxy XD
Yeah that's pretty much the case
He talks in big words and scares the new lot, but those of us who've been here awhile know the snake
The fact of the matter is that you hate the Imperium because it doesn't align with your views and agenda, like everything else you consume, because 40k stands out from the crowd and because you want to see the Imperium fail
I'd say my top 5 are
- Honsou
- Narik
- Forrix
- Barban
- Danti
what the fuck
i like the imperium
Everybody likes the imperium 
sad Vhalen noises. And by noises, that means a never ending stream of vulgarities and curses of you and all you hold dear
If your views tend to align with any of the factions of the 40k universe, you really need to re-evaluate your positions thoroughly.
Vhalen ins #6
You're supposed to find the imperium repugnant numbnuts
Wouldn't be here if I didn't secretly want to be a space marine
Wait you guys are arguing that current 40k lore isnt Grimdark and people want the Imperium to win yet you keep listing moments where the Imperium or its factions are pushed to extinction or near it ?
UwU, Mayo army time โค๏ธ
The Imperium is great because it's this cheesy, over-the-top, horrific mess that's honestly just as comedic as it is dystopian and awful
I don't understand anymore
oops
which is why it's funny and also awesome
It's just a mess, medic underwent mitosis and now there's 2
Nah atleast Uhh seems cool with "cadian pattern flak armor"
And people don't like those moments. They want to see the Imperium win. Why do you think Astartes got so popular?
Do you think it'd be better if the marines boarded the ship and all got killed by meltaguns instantly?
Because you hate them?
Because they are one of the strongest ttp factions and the one that is the most pushed with the most lores ?
Bro that would be sick, so yes
hell yea
Sometimes, it would at least be funny reading that
Why do you assume people want a faction to "win"
watching some lame ass human heretics absolutely flatten a boarding team would be a great read
Since when have I ever said that the Imperium isnt a massive fustercluck kept alive by mere spit and glue and pure stubbornness, zealotry, and horrific dictatorships and a complete absence of human rights?

Just as funny as it would be to watch an Incubi and a Striking Scorpion get curb stomped by an Ork while fighting over who's objectively the prettiest

Idk if I'd call it a warzone
there's no tension if every other faction in a wargame setting is treated as another way to show how cool marines are through being punching bags more often than not
Dude tldr I ain't reading all that
It' sjust medic and his brainspawn being made fun of like usual
where every faction is playable
Yeah sorry i just landed here
or supposed to be
in the grimdarkness of the darktide discord, there is ony war
Being on any social media is just like being a ork
I just wanna see green football hooligans slap big space armor men
Its what happens if you arent talking about AoS or Eldar
and then get slapped back
Darktide 2: Just Hug It Out
and then also get cool stories out of the slappy men
damn i love talking bout tau, no one give me crap
Good point, Talking positive about tau is acceptable as well
sept for maybe people like uH
that also align with the themes set up by the slappy men setting
Dunno i like iG
like the whole collapsing empire
Traitor
But you keep complaining about flak armour
I do to. Or i wouldnt be salty at the retcons to make everyone into Cadians.
RIP OG Terran Regiments

krug i wanna say i admire ur dedication to keep true to the lore thru all this i just wanna say i see u
Couldn't find a photo of my Kyr Vhalen, have a chonky boy instead
Imagine if the rebels got killed in star wars, or if in lotr sauron won, or if the covenant wiped out humanity in halo, or if ripley died in Alien. People don't want to see the bad guys win, that's a shit story
There are protagonists and antagonists, and those protagonists win
He's a fuckn looker too
didnt riply die in 3????
More battle damage on the next one pls, Mayo โค๏ธ
I wanna see it
Unless it a movie specifically about villains being villains
So don't bitch when the stormtroopers, or in this case chaos and orks, get treated like stormtroopers
and like rebels all die a bunch???
He's here to chew gum and smush Loyalists.
And the Grand Battalion just lost the STC for gum....
and lotr they almost lost???
No it wouldn't, try reading the last ringbearer about saurons empire being the only industrial society in middle earth. It's amazing

Oh okay
The empire in star wars is dope too and so are the rebels but I don't root for a faction to win, this isn't football
lol
what is "your kind"
I like orkz they make me laugh
Why does a faction have to win 
On the 30k side of things... METAL BAWKSES!
Me lol apprently
How elitist of you
stoopid
Because we are tired of seeing 40k not embrace what people like about it
No u
should probably go in #40k-minis-and-armies but this is where the people are XD
Orkz?
So far, Mayo's had the right idea having his army with him on standby
You have like an entire chat telling you otherwise
xenos?
on /tg/ probably
The bar is beneath the fucking floor if that's your metric.
Ok so enlighten me what people like about 40k
Bc I seem to like things wrong
They like seeing cool space marines kill shit.
Stop pretending that you post on /40kg/ for the love of god you 2016 tourist 
Jokes on you, I'm behind 7 proxies
They like seeing heretics and xenos burn
I like space marined
No shame in it, if this is what being wrong is, fuck being right.
I assumed it was the over the top action and open ended universe
But I also like ig, orkz, genestealers
Me wanting to talk about T'au annexing a Krieg-like War World and making essentially the Grand Army of the Republic in 40k
me watching titans drop via rail gun shells: damn im in the wrong class huh
that be Hilarious lol
They look at the Imperium and see something to be proud of, to get behind, to defend despite the darkness, to rage against the darkness and win, to hope to see the Emperor reborn and claim the galaxy in righteous conquest
I like 40k
ilm not holding out hope for someone to win
That is 40k.
It's be awesome. Imagine Captain Rex in 40k
Your "all factions must be equally considered" bullshit and and "chaos needs more wins" crap is better suited to the 90s or something
Well i mean nobody really wins except maybe chaos and even thats more by default then necassrily "winning"
It is the cruelest and most bloody regime imaginable tho
I like depressing stories 
They can be fun
or did you read a summary
Not allowed to like those tho
I mean we get Gimdark from 40k for a reason
good lord lmao
oh read up to see the opinion on grimdark lol
okay so if you did you do realize that a repeating motif is guilliman going "wow this imperium sure does suck wow wee"
To BE A MAN IN SUCH TIMES IS TO BE ONE AMONGST UNTOLD BILLIONS. IT IS TO LIVE IN THE CRUELEST AND MOST BLOODY REGIME IMAGINABLE. THESE ARE THE TALES OF THOSE TIMES. FORGET THE POWER OF TECHNOLOGY AND SCIENCE, FOR SO MUCH HAS BEEN FORGOTTEN, NEVER TO BE RE-LEARNED. FORGET THE PROMISE OF PROGRESS AND UNDERSTANDING
Truly, hope for mankind can be found here
"wow wee the emperor also might be a bastard we might have been misguided this whole time if this is the end result and the emperor acts the way he does now"
"i will begrudgingly serve him though"
Survival is not living, life in the 41s and 42nd millennium should have made that abundantly clear by now.
"because right now there's no alternative"
What the fuck kind of narrative is that?
ended june 24th :(
Oofi!
Why would Guillliman doubt the Emperor?
Because GW said so
Guilliman is having some real second thoughts about his whole predicament.
Basicly like most he can get behind the idea but not teh man himself
I read the books, he doesn't, he just goes "the imperium was better in my time"
Directly after talking with him no less, it set the seeds for it already
He's not a traitor to his master and race
that's some sus language
YIKES
To doubt does not mean to betray.
Looks like someone only read the sparknotes
Go huff some copium on r/grimdank, this clearly isn't the place to get behind if this is how fucking obtuse you intend to be.
this fucking conversation
johnny rico we miss you come back
This dude is a fucking clown
he read the summary of some guy on r/40klore or /tg/ who was gushing about one line that says the emperor is growing stronger from the rift and nurgle being wounded
id take boreal tbh
Is that morshu?
Mf is the whole carnival
im so glad im avoiding this by being in a session
I got you cookies ๐
thanks?
saving this image
valrak just needs to stop literally space marine larping 
Valrak's an alright lad, spoken to him a few times
but massive imperial fanboy is not the most reliable source of news
he seems nice though
I think it's a charming gimmick of his lol
He just likes hyping up stuff, even things he knows won't happen haha
would have a beer with him
@karmic stump what's your opinion on Arch?
He does suck at battlesector tho
I don't like his content but he seems like a cool dude
Valrak does
Decent loretuber why
Ah
You gonna cancel him?
I didn't think he'd actually spring it
Get em boys
That can't be real
Ok im out lol
Goteem
arch is bad at lore aside from just being a shitheel
i'm only upset with valrak because of the misreading DT articles thing
he's really bad at lore
Thats gotta be fake right?
and i have nothing better to do with my time
and then claims to be "THE LOREMASTER"
Time for bed nn

i have plenty :))))
He's exceptionally bad at presenting it and his voice is like pressing a cheese grater against your ear.
watching loretubers
I'd rather just read.
He is an assault on the senses
does someone wanna post the pic or should i
Get 'em.
Go for it
Claimed dwarfs in whfb are resistant to magic because "they believe they are" despite the text explicitly stating it's because the Old Ones designed them that way (through channeling magic into the earth from their bodies)
Do it!
Dwarfs are just really down to earth
rock and stone
a grounded peoples
AAAA
cant find it ๐
look all jokes aside
He did it
dwarfs rock

Stone-faced, if you will
He also claimed "he doesn't know" how Angron became a daemon prince "I guess he just hung out in the eye of terror for too long"
despite there being a novel about it
I'm trying to come up with more dawi puns but I'm coming up short

Set in stone, if I may
Dwarves are gnice
Nevertheless, you should never be in a relationship with a dwarf because theyโre all miners
Don't take em for granite
Also inserting his headcanon into his videos without saying it's headcanon
AAA-
Correct opinion spotted
he just reads from the wikis and rewords it into long rambles
also this reminds me
remember, remember
do you agree with all of arches views? Warning for real bad speach under here
With the weird fake accent
we shall not forget
It sucks because dude was a good lore narrator. But fuck if his personal opinions arent massively shit.
i actually wish there was a 40k channel out there that just read from wikis/codices but like openly said so since they have a smooth voice and want to provide some audio-formats for people to listen to in the background
found it
Based
Shout-out to the arch subreddit for getting taken over and turned into a subreddit about Warhammer architecture
We believe in cry-ptid superiority ๐งโโ๏ธ
Is it still like that?
I remember paraphrasing from a wiki once
turns out the diagram for performing a Tracheostomy really undersells the effort required
Lol
They are doing good work over there
Giving the arch stans more things to seethe over
There is a good reason Arch was ejected wholesale from the fandom.
How is that relevant?
How isn't it?
Get em boys
He ๐ Is ๐ A๐ Chud ๐
very subjective take on the "good lore narrator" bits due to getting lore wrong and his obnoxious voice and rambling but w/e
Can't you appreciate his content on its own without involving politics?
He's not perfect
I mean it could be both the warp works that way
You believe in something enough, it comes true
No. Because he brings it into his work actively.
Also that
It paints how he presents the lore, largely by mischaracterising it and drawing wildly stupid analogies, not actual commentary.
The Warp isnโt in Warhammer Fantasy!
I tried, so hard, to watch the siege of Vraks vidoes.
You know what happened?
Nothing but SJW jokes and jabs at trans people.
Non stop.
Nothing but
How many did he eventually make anyway?
it doesn't work that way in either 40k or aos
Completed the series
I know, I watched them all to torture myself.
Also he tangents a lot
It only works when like
Arch isn't "Being attacked by people bringing politics into it."
He brings it up himself and acts like a complete ass every second he gets.
He's a Chud, and he deserved to get ejected as he did.
THERES A GAZILLION sentient beings slowly spawning it with combined belief
ala like Big E
It would help if the tangents were actually interesting too.
Instead they're just racist
True
it tels a lot when the actual company comes out to hunt you down
Well it is what it is and he only brings it up because people constantly threaten his hobby
Even back before he went full mask off he had his annoying moments.
Lots and lots of whining.
"His hobby."
The man can seemingly drone on forever about seemingly nothing and still squeeze in the odd "joke"
Its not his hobby.
He deserves to get "ejected" due to wrongthink?
He deserves to get ejected for being a cunt
That's a pretty good analysis, he doesn't tell you lore
If you're a cunt, people don't want you in their space.
Threaten his hobby?!?!
Like, I'm sorry social consequences exist?
But they do.
And Arch suffered them and is playing the victim.
The victimhood complex, it is so iconic
Don't be a total fucking shithead who does nothing but be casually bigoted and advocate for gate keeping if you don't want to suffer social consequences.
Its that simple.
Arch failed this simple test
So he got ejected.
Simple as.
shouting fire in a crowded room...
Being a cunt? All he does is disagree with you
40k is suppose to be a diverse universe and the guy made a 30 minute video about an african american ultramarine on a book cover
Glass cannon.
On who has or deserves rights, yes.
That's called being a cunt
when one of the biggest traits of the imperium is how it has countless ethnicites spread across the galaxy
God. That stuff with Arch. That brings up memories. What an asshole
Wut? There are black Astartes. Like that DA Chaplain
He's not even trying to hide it under irony, its not even subtext, its fucking text.
Yeah it was bizarre
Yes but it wasn't established before that Ultramar had blacks
"blacks"
Bro
WHOA
THE FUCK
Hm.
Just fucking leave bro
Fuck me ๐
We got a live one here
Read the room
Other 40k media set the expectation that ethnicities are based on different planets, as Arch points out
Since that's how genetics work
OH NO
But gw has changed that to pander
Bruh.
We have an arch stand in chat?
Dark Angel's Chaplain. A Son of the Lion.
How could you tell, lmao
hmmm
Shouldn't he look like the lion?
y'know
You really take Arch to be an authority on how genetics work?
It's shit like that that worries me
I think this has ran it's course, as hilarious as it is
GW retconning lore for woke points
WHAT WOKE POINTS
UUUUGH
Asmodai, an established character in DA canon, is black
Fuck off
No?
damn it
Good
i didnt sneak my comment in
lmao
Its stinky in here
About fucking time
And this book came out in 2014 btw
Smells like gamer
which was that The Emperor himself is literally a half-native american half-hittite superhuman since the start of the 40k universe 
Sure does smell like shit don't it
Damn, just before I got to drop the mixtape no less
...Now lets start betting on whether that was Arch trying to infiltrate in so he could try to get back into the fandom.
yea sorry I was too busy laughing, he passed the point of being bannable like 10 minutes ago
Im in his server
i used to leak shit back in the day

There is also a black imperial fist. Ill find him
Damn that person could be real, right?
Whelp. Could a seen that banhammer coming from orbit lol
Lol
damn it I missed the last bit
Well, however we arrived here, I'm glad we all did it together
should've kept him around for longer, maybe he'd start ranting about white ethnostates or something
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Well. Not an "Imperial Fist" but a Celestial Lion, a successor chapter of the Imperial Fists
Anyone who uses Woke like a slur is getting ejected.
And anyone who defends Arch for his entirely justified ejection should also be ejected to the same island of chud Arch was.
I'm glad we could all gather round to shit on that guy together
That's what family does
apologies to anyone who might've been annoyed by all that, trust me he was at "any last words status" for pretty much that whole time, I was just seeing how far he'd dig 
It was fun while it lasted
Didnt gw post a thing saying this hobby is for everyone, and if they dont like it they wont be missed? Because while I dont like a lot of their business practices,they got that one right at least
Yeah that went south quick fast and in a hurry
if he doesn't like it he can always appeal to Hedge about having his discord server rights violated 
Dom would be proud
He would be
@plucky moth save any salty DMs for my next vermintide hate mail reading stream

ah yes... rights
What a clown that dude was 
a much more important task
It got really crazy there at the end
yup
now we can make fun of medic
i knew from the first message
Then again, what did you expect from a dude that agreed with are politically
for initially defending him
nanidafuq
you were going along with his initial bad takes
There... was a LOT that went down the past 10 minutes lmao
nothing against you but it's funny
Don't blame medic, he just likes to argue
that's fair
I'm surprised more gamer words weren't tossed about
My rule of thumb nowadays is that
If they brainlessly simp the Imperium but don't have any models, discard the opinion.
i like medic overall tbf
Actually playing the game is a social bottleneck that usually strangles out weirdasses
I find that a lot of the "no coloured people in MY 40k" don't have any armies and got into the game 2 months ago 
Just a reminder:
I mean, I like my custodes, but man if they could have done so much more than play lawn flamingo in the imperial palace... lmao
Time to go and check to see if I might unknowingly share any servers with that chode.
And the act of painting gives you ample time to rethink ones edgy headcanons
Yo Custodes are dope
But I also play Necrons
hehehe
Yeah did you see his confusion when I posted a picture of a black Dark Angel
Im taking this quote thank you
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frfr XD
If this is my lasting contribution to the fandom, I'm glad.
You have done a great service to the adeptus custodes
yeah lmao my god
A standout moment in its own right
Maybe that's why Constantine valdor left. To actually do something.
Custodes just playing croquet
Valdor's busy playing DND in some shed with a bunch of other sweaty fucks like us
Roleplaying as his character ||The King in Yellow|| (Bequin: Pariah spoilers)
yup
So what happened ? I was busy avoiding the bonobos that i call italian football fans
fun stuff
40k fandom stuff
So uhhhhh the Arch apologist was banned ?
I'm glad that dude is gone. Like... it's nice to see things in the hobbies you enjoy. It's when they put their kinda bullshit racist stuff into it, it gets bad. Like that one time a British neo nazi became part of the Bolt Action FB group I was part of.
It... was a bad time lmao.
Mf just set the oversized fuse of his cartoon bomb and Incan eventually cracked
Why is it that, every time someone comes here and agrees with Medic they end up being banned ?
Lol
Like the best part is as i said before, the imperium has like thousands of ethnicities you can think of irl
Local goon is confused that racism is bad
Did I stab someone's mother or something?
yet people keep getting mad over there being black people in it for some reason
like fuck off

Medic tells a take
I think you are moreso a beacon of smoothbrains
They come to you thinking you're kin

Dude dug so deep he hit bedrock and instead of stopping he just bashed his head against it til incan pulled the trigger
If there were Persians in universe attempting to speak Gothic, that's where I draw the line, I can't stand the thought of my people like my parents trying to converse in any other language with that accent
I guess that cadian pattern flak moment set you in stone
nah it's just that you had an innocuous bad take that was shared by someone who eats glue
another win for cadia
Thats a bit harsh
fellas let's be nice to Medic alright
Dude dug his own grave, we just got impatient
Kinda hard to win when the Cadia puzzle makes Pepa Ping puzzle kid level
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he made that dude 180 his brain trying to process the existence of a non-white dark angel
Fair enough, not saying he shouldnt have been baned, but that was a bit much about the die part
I nearly spat out my coffee 
Medic: 1
uHHhHH: uh
Perhaps, seeing red do be like that sometimes
i heard the screech as the brakes hit
He underestimated the power of Familyโข๏ธ
New topic, why werent the necrons called the necroffs before they changed
Lol
The right questions are being asked.
I mean people keep asking us why we hate SM when literally half od the SM fans get banned for being racist or nazi apologetics


I just don't like ultramarines because that much blue is fucking stupid ok I'm sorry but it's true
Like cmon man my schyzo brain is beginning to see pattterns
fuckin hotwheels looking bastards
Its not even that we really hate space marines. sm fans just arent used to actually getting ribbed like every other faction soes
Does
Thinskin
What about Genesis Chapter. They are Ultramarines but in red
im crying tho krug thank u for ur hard work
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
Fire Hawks moment
Space mariens get the parents love the most
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
Poor Incan
Dang poor Incan
If i did build marines, id just make them hospital colors
fuckin flavour town legion
Dead coloured marines are best marines
White Scars best
There is a chapter called the Hospitaliers
They exist
Then again, dead coloured everything be best
Uhhhh np??
Wow, i was just bs ing about the hospital ones
Leandros: REEEEEEE
what's annoying is I like blue, I just wish the ultramarines weren't so heavy on it
Id just like to say, angron did nothing wrong
they could've totally gone with someone less uhhhh...childish looking
Insert meme title here: How Ultramarines feel every time they hear someone shout 'We march for Macragge!'
Little vid I spent 4 hours putting together on MMD a few weeks back. Ultra-blue boys make for great memes!
We march for demonetization!
Here is the song
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=68ugkg9RePc
EXTERMINATUS those Like & Subscribe butt...
.... how do you feel about yellow? Lol
Yeah the entire legion ultramarine are posterboys is because blue looks pretty on a market front and catches your eyes
its too light a blue
its nothing else
The best homebrew chapter tho??
To quote Carab "Based" Cullyn
"Camouflage is the Colour of Cowardice"
and its in navy blue
I like it as like, a secondary colour
yea its unnatural blue i dont like it
I'd have preferred a cobalt blue or something I think
Brotherhood of the Knot
Poor bastard made a space wolves successor with "knot" in the name
@smoky mauvebtw there is an entire chapter of Leandros marines
like if you showed me armour that was ENTIRELY yellow I'd retch
Oh no
but if it had yellow patterning or something then sure I could vibe with it probs
This somehow narrows down nothing
.......wat
So
I dunno. Like the bright colors.... I mean I get it for shock troops? Like they're sorta meant to be seen?
Yeah, sounds about right
the heading chapter is a SW successor called "brotherhood of the knot"
Oh no
Oh so dude was meme'ing to meme
Maybe it's all about balance?


He was completely unaware 
OH GOD

He did knot see that coming

He had written 10 pages of lore for them but the rest of the thread was everyone going "Anon..."
a blue like this?
Knot everyone was into it
Oh my heart hurts for him. That sweet innocent child
For every utterly banal homebrew, is one so catastrophically hilarious it becomes a singularity
Oooh that's nice looking
He didn't know it was a knot-ty word
Heh banal
yee a blue like that
Navy or Midnight blue
like I get it ULTRAMARINE BLUE HAHA VERI FUNNY SADIANGIDFGNRIEGNB
but pls just...yea navy or midnight c'mon
thx, its just the kantor blue base
gingerly hugs his "Lion's Hunters" chapter ; n ;
doing dark navy blue for em and then like going to do an off white belly
actually don't mind this
Ironic is that their color isnt even ultramarine blue

if it were like, straight up highlighter yellow I'd die
My friend's homebrew chapter is like that out of weird happenstance
I'm colourblind aaaaaaaaaaaa
haz stripes look fly as hell on anything tho, if i could put them on my tau i would
His first real exposure to 40k was a deathwatch campaign I ran and he wanted to make his own chapter up
When the Iron is Within! 
But he was in a weird phase?
Marines Malevolent representation when?
So he wanted to make a chapter of "dat boi"
This was years ago btw
I love MM but I am never painting them
laughs in 3 fully functional color cones in his eyes
ough those hemets ๐ฑ
Hold up we simping some drip IW models?
Executioners 4 lyfe 
So true, Mayo wins again
FW IW upgrade kit if you were curious
Fine taste you have there sir, terrific painting as always my gamer
I said "no that's dumb" as did everyone else and he settled on using the creation tables and making his chapter frog themed. Neat enough
Well we get into the first session and this fucker
But also, if you ever do one, you have to make it a Deathwatch Apothecary for reasons I need not explain to you (MM that is, not executioners, replied to the wrong one rip)
dont habe the cash to buy another army, all that went to genestealer and the fucin racket that shipping is
"When your brother chapters call you savages and question your geneseed, so you tear their spines out and add them to your kill counter"
Nothing is stopping you from putting IW helmets on your GSC 
His marine introduces himself
"I SERVE THE AMPHIBIAN"
and this keeps going




