#40k-lore-chat

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atomic pelican
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"Vect never gets invited, show up anyway."

tiny nova
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I wonder how Tau escaped the crusades

odd sparrow
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you could invite them and they'd still never show up ever

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i just wanna vibe with my dinosaurs

storm jungle
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You have plenty of place on theirs dont worry

odd sparrow
gaunt vector
odd sparrow
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or they're meant to be anyways im p sure on actual maps they're like right next to ultramar

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lol

atomic pelican
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Also the imperium has

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alot of problems to deal with

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other than the tau

storm jungle
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like itself

atomic pelican
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as per usual

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YEAH

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LUL

odd sparrow
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yeah like, what's preferable here

tiny nova
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Not prior to HH is what I'm getting at

odd sparrow
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deal with the four hive fleets and seven ork WAAAGHs currently turning eight sectors into paste

tiny nova
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Or were they still just fish

odd sparrow
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or deal with a bunch of blueberries who assimilate a planet ocne every like generation

gaunt vector
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I prefer the Imperium

storm jungle
odd sparrow
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Tau were never fish, they just have marine based names for vehicles so ppl got confused

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and yeah

gaunt vector
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they just capture my imagination more

odd sparrow
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they were like. 1000BC level at 35Kish

atomic pelican
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Tau worlds can at least be reclaimed, sa opposed to hivefleets eating your planet, chaos turning them into daemon worlds, or orkz uh.. being orkz on your planet

tiny nova
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That's why I think the stc theory has credence

atomic pelican
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It's one of those theories like "tyranids are running from a bigger threat"

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it has no real basis

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So It's just speculation

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Also a single STC wouldn't advance the tau like they have

odd sparrow
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imperium explorator shows up, marks the primitive world for annexation, then a warp storm swallows the whole area

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imperium forgets they exist

tiny nova
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It could give them the legs to get their own tech

odd sparrow
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5k years later they show up with railguns

atomic pelican
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Or they could just be a unified society by the ethereals, which allows them to advance faster.

gaunt vector
atomic pelican
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Which does have basis in lore.

odd sparrow
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and yeah idk the STC thing doesn't really do anything for the tau

atomic pelican
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Imagine how far humanity would go if we were wholly united as a planet

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Then you have a image of the post-ethereal tau

odd sparrow
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like, they're a very fast technlogically advancing faction in any case, it's sorta baked into their identity

storm jungle
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yeah the entire point of the tau's evolution is they actually united and just spammed engineer classes to build marvels

atomic pelican
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ERECTING A SENTRY

storm jungle
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TAU GAMING

odd sparrow
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SALTZPYRE NOISES

tiny nova
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But going from primitive to Tau is a large leap, there has to be some mineral/resource or something that explains it

storm jungle
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but yeah like if you took our world and literally threw all the smart engineers from around the world to a single department im sure they'd show the same results

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i think

atomic pelican
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3000 years is plenty of time for a society to advance

odd sparrow
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What explains it is the tau are a v technologically inclined, united and efficient race and like

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yeah

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they had about 5000 years to get where they are now

atomic pelican
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The pyramids are like 4500 years old, and we aren't even fully united

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Yet we've gotten this far

tiny nova
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They had 5000 years to get average bs4

odd sparrow
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shut

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we have strength 5 okay

atomic pelican
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LMAO

odd sparrow
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it makes up for it

tiny nova
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I got t5 on the Boyz now

odd sparrow
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Yall can't even scratch orks now

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we can

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,, not amazingly well but still

atomic pelican
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drukhari poison

tiny nova
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Lasguns haven't changed efficiency against Orks

odd sparrow
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huh they haven't? aren't they S3

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i haven't played in ages

tiny nova
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S3 against t4 or t5 equals 5s to wound either way

atomic pelican
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Theyre s3 so going to t5 they still wound on 5s

odd sparrow
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ah

tiny nova
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Tfw we will get another three kingdoms before another shogun

atomic pelican
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Space marines malding tho

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For t5 orkz

tiny nova
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I look forward to the day

atomic pelican
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Tww3 cathay is three kingdoms 2

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All absorbed into the fantasy setting

odd sparrow
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dong zhuo is just an ogre

tiny nova
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There's also a literal Japan area in Cathay iirc

odd sparrow
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there's an area for p much every ~vague eastern area~

tiny nova
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Atleast there was in the warband mod lol

odd sparrow
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cathay is china, nippon is japan, ind is india, the other one is southeast asia ig

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yes GW is very imaginative

primal tide
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Boochuresti, Yndonesia, Franc

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Much imagination, very thinking

storm jungle
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Cathay is like the only one i like since it sounds pretty cool

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others are

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nip

odd sparrow
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yep

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grand cathay sounds cool

atomic pelican
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Very excited

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Three Kingdoms some of my fave aesthetics

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Historically

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Also mythologically

storm jungle
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Ancient china just had a lot of swagger yeah

cursive hull
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Absolutely.

atomic pelican
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God I wish the statue of liberty was even nearly as cool as this

gaunt vector
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what year was that made in?

atomic pelican
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Recently cant remember when exactly

cursive hull
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Recently, from memory.

gaunt vector
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not suprising

atomic pelican
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Huge ass Guan Yu

cursive hull
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Guan Yu being the god of brotherhood and kinship is a lot cooler than god of war, just sayin'.

atomic pelican
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U right

primal tide
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Brotherhood and kinship? Sounds kinda like family

atomic pelican
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I love gods that have alot of domains

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Like rather than just 1

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Esp if theyre odd or conflicting someyimes

coarse mirage
cursive hull
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Guan Yu was such a badass that he was deified.

Although, whether he was a real person I think is still debated.

Three Kingdoms is a period wreathed in mystery.

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If he did exist, and if what half he is said to have done is true? He deserves to be deified.

coarse mirage
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I dont think anyone is worshipping the figure.

atomic pelican
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I assume he means deified in the sense that figures like Caesar are

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Not seen as gods or worshipped, but seen as great men of legends

storm jungle
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^

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Its a case of

coarse mirage
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Ah okay

storm jungle
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Yeah he/she was a dick

coarse mirage
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Venerated

storm jungle
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But they also did pretty notorious things that we need to study

atomic pelican
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Yee

storm jungle
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that kinda thing

errant mauve
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Guan Yu should also be considered the god of big ego lul

karmic stump
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Anyone read godblight?

open marsh
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I have

karmic stump
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nice

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Good that GW is finally giving the Imperium more power boosts

open marsh
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Yeah. and no longer on a slowly losing defense

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Man the Chaos fanboys were pissed

karmic stump
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Fuck Chaos fanboys, they chose the wrong faction

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"Wahhhh wahhhh give us more victories"

cursive hull
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I mean

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Yeah, there was a particular Chinese Emperor who "Deified" Guan Yu

karmic stump
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The grimdark shit is what ruins 40k anyway, most people like 40k because they like the Imperium, so it's good to see them winning

atomic pelican
cursive hull
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I don't think they mean literally as in "Made him a god."

But more to do with "Believes more people should be like."

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Which is inherently weird given Guan Yu was very singular and was exceptional because he was so singular.

dim totem
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I don't get why people don't like grimdark in 40k

cursive hull
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But I guess they meant more his general arch of being loyal.

dim totem
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Didn't 40k basically coin the term

atomic pelican
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Most people are fine with it

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I think It's a very ZoanthropeSMALLBRAIN group who arent

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Though there are certainly grimpderp moments which are just

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bad writing problems

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not really a problem with being grim

frosty cobalt
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the other 50% is for the xenos

atomic pelican
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If you removed space marine stats, xenos would out number the imperium

cursive hull
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If I'm not wrong, this is why Guan Yu, Liu Bei, and Zhang Fei are considered the "Protagonists" of the Romance of the Three Kingdoms.

atomic pelican
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In terms of popularity

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It's not really fair to compare the entire imperium's popularity to any one xeno

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Since it's a uh

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category

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Even then saying "most" people play for imperium is probably a stretch, considering chaos too

cursive hull
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Basically, someone played favorites with history.

Even though the peach tree ceremony folks didn't even win. They didn't even out live the war.

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Like, I whole heartedly believe that part of the Romance is true.

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Nobody with any context to the start of the Three kingdoms period lives to see it finished.

final spruce
atomic pelican
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DFHSN

karmic stump
atomic pelican
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It's pretty hilarious yeah

frosty cobalt
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yea

karmic stump
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People like 40k because they like seeing the Imperium purge

errant mauve
final spruce
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Yeah because how bad they make it

karmic stump
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Whatever

cursive hull
frosty cobalt
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the absoulte hellfest that this universe is, is hilarious

atomic pelican
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Drukhari are imo the funniest faction in 40k since they're so over the top silly

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Like, the 1st drukhari codex may be the funniest literature to ever come out of 40k

cursive hull
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Chuds get ejected from the Fandom like shots out of a rail gun anymore.

karmic stump
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It's more of a serious military scifi universe, at least now

frosty cobalt
karmic stump
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Maybe not 30 years ago

atomic pelican
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I think we have a smoothy

errant mauve
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If RoTK was written in say, the Jin Dynasty, I wouldn't be surprised if Cao Cao was the protagonist.

frosty cobalt
cursive hull
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Huh

atomic pelican
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I been known but it's like

cursive hull
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Yeah, that does make sense.

atomic pelican
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a level of smooth that I wouldn't even interact with

frosty cobalt
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mhm

atomic pelican
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Like steam forums smooth

errant mauve
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Also, Chaos rules! >:D

frosty cobalt
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LOL

final spruce
frosty cobalt
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ye iron warriors 4 lyfe

karmic stump
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Would you prefer the Imperium be on a slowly losing defense?

errant mauve
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Good lad

dim totem
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Nothing wrong with thatlul

atomic pelican
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that's kind of the point yes

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to be a failing imperium

karmic stump
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@open marsh we got one

final spruce
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I mean the Imperium almost got destroyedin dark imperium

vapid tiger
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what the fuck am i reading

atomic pelican
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brainnrot krug

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brainrot

karmic stump
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what

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What did I say

vapid tiger
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bruh

frosty cobalt
vapid tiger
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capital B Bruh moment

final spruce
atomic pelican
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Yep

frosty cobalt
errant mauve
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haha

karmic stump
atomic pelican
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@frosty cobalt Have u done the 3 months free thing yet?

frosty cobalt
atomic pelican
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That's hwo I got my nitro

open marsh
atomic pelican
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how*

atomic pelican
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Epic has a 3 months free of nitro thing

errant mauve
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^

atomic pelican
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If you're okay with epic

vapid tiger
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i mean the imperium being a collapsing empire has been a central thing in 40k since the first rulebook was published in 1987

errant mauve
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That's why I have nitro rn x)

frosty cobalt
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ah ill check it out

frosty cobalt
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yea not to be a radical but i dont want the fascistic imperialist empire to win?

errant mauve
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I think Chaos is cool. Imperium is alright but not my favourite.

karmic stump
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I wonder where they come from ๐Ÿค”

atomic pelican
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I assume one of medic's braintumors sloughed off and grew up into this new one

frosty cobalt
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its a cool theme and aesthetic but i dont want them as the good guys

frosty cobalt
errant mauve
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I've been playing Chaos for 11 years so Imperium can suck it >:D

Ignore that I have 4000 points of White Scars

karmic stump
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GW has gotten out of its edgy teenage phase and acknowledges that the Imperium is the protagonist people want to see win, instead of constantly being on the defense, constantly being "doomed"

vapid tiger
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what

atomic pelican
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lmao this is bait

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no one is this stupid

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even medic isn't this stupid I think

vapid tiger
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i mean hold on

errant mauve
vapid tiger
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maybe he's serious

atomic pelican
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That's true

vapid tiger
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it's a 40k discord

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@karmic stump you do realize that "the imperium is doomed" has been a "tell, don't show" thing for well over a decade at this point right

open marsh
frosty cobalt
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lol

atomic pelican
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that's right heelboy, lick lick

final spruce
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Wdym we IG stans here

atomic pelican
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That's tru

vapid tiger
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like most stories have been "imperials kick someone's ass" and everyone who isn't imperial usually gets treated as a sort of "npc" compared to it

atomic pelican
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The IG stans get by just fine

vapid tiger
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and then at the end

frosty cobalt
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yea ig for lyfe

vapid tiger
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"oh but remember the imperium is doomed"

dim totem
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IG represent

karmic stump
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You fail to acknowledge stuff like chaos and plague marines

open marsh
vapid tiger
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plague marines?

open marsh
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Because apparently its 100% okay for all regiments to be retconned into Cadia-clones

atomic pelican
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the funniest thing is that I'm p sure every IG player here has more investment than medic

frosty cobalt
karmic stump
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Plague marines are marines devoted to nurgle...you don't even know lore????

vapid tiger
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I know what a plague marine is and your description is like

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that's very barebones

dim totem
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We know the lore but who questions plague marines lul

vapid tiger
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I meant what does that have to do with what I said

final spruce
atomic pelican
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green is cadian zherlum

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smh mortarion got retconned into being a cadian sad

frosty cobalt
atomic pelican
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Had to collect to paint plague marines

atomic pelican
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AGHNG

karmic stump
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Plague marines and others like berserkers are always portrayed as "more powerful" than standard marines, chaos is always portrayed as "more powerful" and so are xenos. The imperium is constantly getting its ass kicked. Wtf are you smoking to claim the Imperium wins most conflicts?

atomic pelican
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That video kills me

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everytime

karmic stump
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I feel like you are twisting lore to suit some narrative

frosty cobalt
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lol

vapid tiger
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bruh

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have you been

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paying attention

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to 40k

atomic pelican
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this has to just be one of medic's alts

vapid tiger
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aside from a few bl novels

atomic pelican
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I shit you not, he stirs bait and only medic responds

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It's that or he's some spawnling

vapid tiger
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Chaos is constantly like

open marsh
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"I dont like this particular lore. therefor it must be bait". Gotta love PJC's logic

vapid tiger
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Portrayed as a cartoon villain who constantly gets foiled aside from the fall of cadia, look at vigilus for how shit turned right back around to the status quo

vapid tiger
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And xenos have been shit on for years lmao

storm jungle
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stop mentioning the eldar already

errant mauve
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uh

storm jungle
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lmao

errant mauve
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anyways

vapid tiger
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Always to make marines more powerful looking

atomic pelican
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Unleashing the finale

errant mauve
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Anyone wanna read a fan codex I've been writing for my IW homebrew? Only a few pages as its rly WIP.

atomic pelican
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Gamers give me your strength

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Im gonna do it

final spruce
errant mauve
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Thanks mate

frosty cobalt
final spruce
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Which is why Csm sucks

vapid tiger
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Dante soloed the swarmlord when Calgar couldn't, Ghaz got his head chopped off like a bitch (albeit to Ragnar which makes it less painful than it would've been otherwise), the Eldar can't catch a break and have been worfed into oblivion, etc

errant mauve
# frosty cobalt sure

https://docs.google.com/document/d/11bOF05JIGNsQbXiF6OPnjWku6w9PoqYViRKxVKr3DJ8/edit?usp=sharing
Only 5 pages rn but I'm trying to make it feel like a codex ๐Ÿ™‚

karmic stump
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Allow me to deconstruct your points

vapid tiger
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oh god

karmic stump
open marsh
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This is entertaining, watching yall jump in someone else's shit for once. Like wow. Looking at it from the 3rd person.

karmic stump
vapid tiger
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my brain

final spruce
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Isnt the lamenters lore like 12 y old now ?

vapid tiger
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You do realize that you can't have good opponents for the Imperium if the opponents aren't threatening, right?

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Also "they aren't"

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They get shit on in lore and then don't get model updates for years at a time

atomic pelican
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you think they actually play the game?

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unlikely

karmic stump
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Who cares about models? This is about lore

vapid tiger
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The models are like the core of 40k that's why it exists

open marsh
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"Marines dont get shit on"

Me: casually watches the Scythe of the Emperor get absolutely wiped out and their home system scoured of all life by the Nids. Even as they desperate but fruitlessly try and protect something of it.

vapid tiger
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That's why the bolter looks like it does

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That's decades old lore

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Which is good it's great

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So is the badab war

frosty cobalt
vapid tiger
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now contrast that with the second war for damnos

final spruce
vapid tiger
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Where the ultramarines, after losing in the first war for damnos, come back and wipe out the planet with like 200 marines

frosty cobalt
vapid tiger
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And calgar uses a necron arc pylon like master chief handles a machinegun turret

open marsh
vapid tiger
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Gauss pylon*

slow prawn
karmic stump
crisp heath
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๐Ÿฟ

frosty cobalt
vapid tiger
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because it's for toy soldiers

errant mauve
glad prism
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Its a solid army too โค๏ธ

open marsh
errant mauve
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Narik? He's a traitorous dog. Ker Thelon 4 lyfe IronWarriors

Jk, Narik's probably my second favourite IW

open marsh
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(in before someone gets salty about talking positive about space marines)

frosty cobalt
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yall teach me so much, if uHh and medic over here tried to teach me lore id probably think humans where the only ones in the galaxy XD

atomic pelican
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Yeah that's pretty much the case

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He talks in big words and scares the new lot, but those of us who've been here awhile know the snake

karmic stump
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The fact of the matter is that you hate the Imperium because it doesn't align with your views and agenda, like everything else you consume, because 40k stands out from the crowd and because you want to see the Imperium fail

errant mauve
vapid tiger
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i like the imperium

dim totem
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Everybody likes the imperium lul

open marsh
glad prism
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If your views tend to align with any of the factions of the 40k universe, you really need to re-evaluate your positions thoroughly.

errant mauve
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Vhalen ins #6

primal tide
dim totem
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Wouldn't be here if I didn't secretly want to be a space marine

errant mauve
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I made a model of Vhalen

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one second

final spruce
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Wait you guys are arguing that current 40k lore isnt Grimdark and people want the Imperium to win yet you keep listing moments where the Imperium or its factions are pushed to extinction or near it ?

glad prism
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UwU, Mayo army time โค๏ธ

vapid tiger
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The Imperium is great because it's this cheesy, over-the-top, horrific mess that's honestly just as comedic as it is dystopian and awful

final spruce
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I don't understand anymore

errant mauve
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oops

vapid tiger
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which is why it's funny and also awesome

errant mauve
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It isn't saved on my PC

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feelsbadman

primal tide
final spruce
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Nah atleast Uhh seems cool with "cadian pattern flak armor"

karmic stump
atomic pelican
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we are the ass tartes

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because they're big guys in power armor

karmic stump
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Do you think it'd be better if the marines boarded the ship and all got killed by meltaguns instantly?

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Because you hate them?

final spruce
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Because they are one of the strongest ttp factions and the one that is the most pushed with the most lores ?

glad prism
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Sometimes, it would at least be funny reading that

atomic pelican
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Yes

dim totem
frosty cobalt
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watching some lame ass human heretics absolutely flatten a boarding team would be a great read

open marsh
storm jungle
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Damn boi

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THIS IS A WARZONE

glad prism
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Just as funny as it would be to watch an Incubi and a Striking Scorpion get curb stomped by an Ork while fighting over who's objectively the prettiest

storm jungle
atomic pelican
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Idk if I'd call it a warzone

vapid tiger
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there's no tension if every other faction in a wargame setting is treated as another way to show how cool marines are through being punching bags more often than not

primal tide
atomic pelican
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It' sjust medic and his brainspawn being made fun of like usual

vapid tiger
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where every faction is playable

storm jungle
vapid tiger
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or supposed to be

atomic pelican
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Most people here are on the same side

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UwU

frosty cobalt
atomic pelican
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Being on any social media is just like being a ork

vapid tiger
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I just wanna see green football hooligans slap big space armor men

open marsh
vapid tiger
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and then get slapped back

glad prism
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Darktide 2: Just Hug It Out

vapid tiger
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and then also get cool stories out of the slappy men

frosty cobalt
open marsh
frosty cobalt
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sept for maybe people like uH

vapid tiger
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that also align with the themes set up by the slappy men setting

final spruce
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Dunno i like iG

vapid tiger
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like the whole collapsing empire

karmic stump
final spruce
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But you keep complaining about flak armour

open marsh
frosty cobalt
errant mauve
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Couldn't find a photo of my Kyr Vhalen, have a chonky boy instead

karmic stump
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There are protagonists and antagonists, and those protagonists win

glad prism
karmic stump
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And people root for them

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For a reason

glad prism
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More battle damage on the next one pls, Mayo โค๏ธ

gusty fulcrum
karmic stump
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So don't bitch when the stormtroopers, or in this case chaos and orks, get treated like stormtroopers

frosty cobalt
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and like rebels all die a bunch???

errant mauve
frosty cobalt
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and lotr they almost lost???

dim totem
karmic stump
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Oh okay

dim totem
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The empire in star wars is dope too and so are the rebels but I don't root for a faction to win, this isn't football

karmic stump
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So you're all just idiots

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Typical of your kind

frosty cobalt
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lol

vapid tiger
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what is "your kind"

gusty fulcrum
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I like orkz they make me laugh

dim totem
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Why does a faction have to win lul

errant mauve
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On the 30k side of things... METAL BAWKSES!

dim totem
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Me lol apprently

glad prism
dim totem
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stoopid

karmic stump
primal tide
errant mauve
vapid tiger
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I would say "you and what army"

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but that's cliche

glad prism
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So far, Mayo's had the right idea having his army with him on standby

final spruce
karmic stump
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Lol

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I have entire message boards behind me

karmic stump
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You're just a drop in the bucket

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Go back to reddit

frosty cobalt
glad prism
final spruce
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Yeah reddit greentexts I assume

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Or grimdank

dim totem
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Bc I seem to like things wrong

karmic stump
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They like seeing cool space marines kill shit.

errant mauve
primal tide
karmic stump
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They like seeing heretics and xenos burn

dim totem
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I like space marined

glad prism
gusty fulcrum
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I assumed it was the over the top action and open ended universe

dim totem
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But I also like ig, orkz, genestealers

open marsh
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Me wanting to talk about T'au annexing a Krieg-like War World and making essentially the Grand Army of the Republic in 40k

frosty cobalt
karmic stump
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They look at the Imperium and see something to be proud of, to get behind, to defend despite the darkness, to rage against the darkness and win, to hope to see the Emperor reborn and claim the galaxy in righteous conquest

dim totem
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I like 40k lul ilm not holding out hope for someone to win

karmic stump
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That is 40k.

open marsh
karmic stump
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Your "all factions must be equally considered" bullshit and and "chaos needs more wins" crap is better suited to the 90s or something

gusty fulcrum
karmic stump
#

People don't want depressing stories like that though

#

They want hope for mankind

primal tide
vapid tiger
#

bro what the fuck

#

di

#

hold on

dim totem
#

I like depressing stories lul

vapid tiger
#

did you even read godblight tho

#

or any book in the dark imperium series

gusty fulcrum
vapid tiger
#

or did you read a summary

dim totem
#

Not allowed to like those tho

gusty fulcrum
#

I mean we get Gimdark from 40k for a reason

plucky moth
karmic stump
#

Did you?

frosty cobalt
vapid tiger
#

okay so if you did you do realize that a repeating motif is guilliman going "wow this imperium sure does suck wow wee"

primal tide
# karmic stump They want hope for mankind

To BE A MAN IN SUCH TIMES IS TO BE ONE AMONGST UNTOLD BILLIONS. IT IS TO LIVE IN THE CRUELEST AND MOST BLOODY REGIME IMAGINABLE. THESE ARE THE TALES OF THOSE TIMES. FORGET THE POWER OF TECHNOLOGY AND SCIENCE, FOR SO MUCH HAS BEEN FORGOTTEN, NEVER TO BE RE-LEARNED. FORGET THE PROMISE OF PROGRESS AND UNDERSTANDING

Truly, hope for mankind can be found here

vapid tiger
#

"wow wee the emperor also might be a bastard we might have been misguided this whole time if this is the end result and the emperor acts the way he does now"

#

"i will begrudgingly serve him though"

glad prism
#

Survival is not living, life in the 41s and 42nd millennium should have made that abundantly clear by now.

vapid tiger
#

"because right now there's no alternative"

karmic stump
#

What the fuck kind of narrative is that?

frosty cobalt
atomic pelican
#

Oofi!

karmic stump
#

Why would Guillliman doubt the Emperor?

primal tide
#

Because GW said so

vapid tiger
#

you didn't read it

#

because he does

#

in those books

glad prism
#

Guilliman is having some real second thoughts about his whole predicament.

gusty fulcrum
#

Basicly like most he can get behind the idea but not teh man himself

karmic stump
#

I read the books, he doesn't, he just goes "the imperium was better in my time"

glad prism
#

Directly after talking with him no less, it set the seeds for it already

karmic stump
#

He's not a traitor to his master and race

vapid tiger
#

that's some sus language

frosty cobalt
glad prism
#

To doubt does not mean to betray.

primal tide
glad prism
storm jungle
#

MASTER RACE

#

CHRIST

gusty fulcrum
#

this fucking conversation

storm jungle
#

johnny rico we miss you come back

primal tide
#

This dude is a fucking clown

vapid tiger
#

he read the summary of some guy on r/40klore or /tg/ who was gushing about one line that says the emperor is growing stronger from the rift and nurgle being wounded

frosty cobalt
grand minnow
#

Is that morshu?

glad prism
#

Mf is the whole carnival

cerulean wagon
#

im so glad im avoiding this by being in a session

glad prism
cerulean wagon
#

thanks?

errant mauve
vapid tiger
#

or watched valrak ๐Ÿคข

#

nothing against him btw

atomic pelican
#

valrak just needs to stop literally space marine larping omegalul

errant mauve
#

Valrak's an alright lad, spoken to him a few times

vapid tiger
#

but massive imperial fanboy is not the most reliable source of news

#

he seems nice though

dim totem
#

I think it's a charming gimmick of his lol

errant mauve
#

He just likes hyping up stuff, even things he knows won't happen haha

vapid tiger
#

would have a beer with him

primal tide
#

@karmic stump what's your opinion on Arch?

dim totem
#

He does suck at battlesector tho

vapid tiger
#

I don't like his content but he seems like a cool dude

dim totem
#

Valrak does

karmic stump
dim totem
#

Ah

karmic stump
#

You gonna cancel him?

atomic pelican
#

I didn't think he'd actually spring it

primal tide
#

Get em boys

crisp heath
#

That can't be real

dim totem
#

Ok im out lol

primal tide
vapid tiger
#

arch is bad at lore aside from just being a shitheel

cerulean wagon
#

i'm only upset with valrak because of the misreading DT articles thing

vapid tiger
#

he's really bad at lore

crisp heath
#

Thats gotta be fake right?

cerulean wagon
#

and i have nothing better to do with my time

vapid tiger
#

and then claims to be "THE LOREMASTER"

dim totem
#

Time for bed nn

cerulean wagon
karmic stump
#

You have no evidence

vapid tiger
#

i have plenty :))))

glad prism
#

He's exceptionally bad at presenting it and his voice is like pressing a cheese grater against your ear.

errant mauve
#

watching loretubers
I'd rather just read.

glad prism
#

He is an assault on the senses

frosty cobalt
#

does someone wanna post the pic or should i

glad prism
#

Get 'em.

crisp heath
#

Go for it

vapid tiger
#

Claimed dwarfs in whfb are resistant to magic because "they believe they are" despite the text explicitly stating it's because the Old Ones designed them that way (through channeling magic into the earth from their bodies)

primal tide
plucky moth
#

Dwarfs are just really down to earth

storm jungle
#

incan ffs

#

im gonna kill you

atomic pelican
#

rock and stone

plucky moth
#

a grounded peoples

storm jungle
#

AAAA

frosty cobalt
plucky moth
#

look all jokes aside

glad prism
#

He did it

plucky moth
#

dwarfs rock

atomic pelican
errant mauve
open marsh
vapid tiger
#

He also claimed "he doesn't know" how Angron became a daemon prince "I guess he just hung out in the eye of terror for too long"

#

despite there being a novel about it

plucky moth
#

I'm trying to come up with more dawi puns but I'm coming up short

atomic pelican
glad prism
crisp heath
#

Dwarves are gnice

slow prawn
#

Nevertheless, you should never be in a relationship with a dwarf because theyโ€™re all miners

plucky moth
#

also Arch sucks

crisp heath
#

Don't take em for granite

vapid tiger
#

Also inserting his headcanon into his videos without saying it's headcanon

storm jungle
glad prism
vapid tiger
#

he just reads from the wikis and rewords it into long rambles

storm jungle
#

also this reminds me

atomic pelican
#

remember, remember

frosty cobalt
atomic pelican
#

the deleted gnoblar video forgot

#

for it is a video

dim totem
atomic pelican
#

we shall not forget

open marsh
storm jungle
#

i actually wish there was a 40k channel out there that just read from wikis/codices but like openly said so since they have a smooth voice and want to provide some audio-formats for people to listen to in the background

frosty cobalt
primal tide
#

Based

#

Shout-out to the arch subreddit for getting taken over and turned into a subreddit about Warhammer architecture

glad prism
#

We believe in cry-ptid superiority ๐ŸงŽโ€โ™€๏ธ

storm jungle
#

Is it still like that?

plucky moth
#

I remember paraphrasing from a wiki once

turns out the diagram for performing a Tracheostomy really undersells the effort required

crisp heath
#

Lol

storm jungle
#

LOL

#

chads

#

keeping up the good fight huh

primal tide
#

They are doing good work over there

#

Giving the arch stans more things to seethe over

cursive hull
#

There is a good reason Arch was ejected wholesale from the fandom.

primal tide
#

How isn't it?

storm jungle
#

Get em boys

cursive hull
#

He ๐Ÿ‘ Is ๐Ÿ‘ A๐Ÿ‘ Chud ๐Ÿ‘

vapid tiger
karmic stump
primal tide
#

It's not political to dislike racists

#

So don't bring politics into it

karmic stump
#

You believe in something enough, it comes true

cursive hull
primal tide
#

Also that

glad prism
slow prawn
cursive hull
#

I tried, so hard, to watch the siege of Vraks vidoes.

#

You know what happened?

#

Nothing but SJW jokes and jabs at trans people.

#

Non stop.

#

Nothing but

glad prism
vapid tiger
#

it doesn't work that way in either 40k or aos

cursive hull
#

Completed the series

vapid tiger
#

unless you're an ork

#

in 40k

cursive hull
#

I know, I watched them all to torture myself.

crisp heath
#

Also he tangents a lot

storm jungle
#

It only works when like

cursive hull
#

Arch isn't "Being attacked by people bringing politics into it."

He brings it up himself and acts like a complete ass every second he gets.

#

He's a Chud, and he deserved to get ejected as he did.

storm jungle
#

THERES A GAZILLION sentient beings slowly spawning it with combined belief

#

ala like Big E

glad prism
primal tide
#

Instead they're just racist

crisp heath
#

True

storm jungle
#

it tels a lot when the actual company comes out to hunt you down

karmic stump
cursive hull
#

Even back before he went full mask off he had his annoying moments.

Lots and lots of whining.

glad prism
#

The man can seemingly drone on forever about seemingly nothing and still squeeze in the odd "joke"

cursive hull
#

Its not his hobby.

karmic stump
cursive hull
#

He deserves to get ejected for being a cunt

glad prism
#

That's a pretty good analysis, he doesn't tell you lore

cursive hull
#

If you're a cunt, people don't want you in their space.

crisp heath
#

Threaten his hobby?!?!

glad prism
#

He whinges about it

#

Nonstop

cursive hull
#

Like, I'm sorry social consequences exist?

#

But they do.

#

And Arch suffered them and is playing the victim.

primal tide
cursive hull
#

Don't be a total fucking shithead who does nothing but be casually bigoted and advocate for gate keeping if you don't want to suffer social consequences.

#

Its that simple.

#

Arch failed this simple test

#

So he got ejected.

#

Simple as.

plucky moth
#

shouting fire in a crowded room...

storm jungle
#

But yeah like

karmic stump
storm jungle
#

40k is suppose to be a diverse universe and the guy made a 30 minute video about an african american ultramarine on a book cover

glad prism
cursive hull
#

That's called being a cunt

karmic stump
#

Oh god

#

Rights

storm jungle
#

when one of the biggest traits of the imperium is how it has countless ethnicites spread across the galaxy

smoky mauve
#

God. That stuff with Arch. That brings up memories. What an asshole

open marsh
glad prism
#

He's not even trying to hide it under irony, its not even subtext, its fucking text.

storm jungle
#

Yeah it was bizarre

karmic stump
storm jungle
#

"blacks"

primal tide
#

Bro

crisp heath
#

WHOA

slow prawn
#

THE FUCK

smoky mauve
#

Hm.

primal tide
#

Just fucking leave bro

storm jungle
#

Fuck me ๐Ÿ˜†

crisp heath
#

We got a live one here

primal tide
#

Read the room

karmic stump
#

Other 40k media set the expectation that ethnicities are based on different planets, as Arch points out

#

Since that's how genetics work

crisp heath
#

OH NO

karmic stump
#

But gw has changed that to pander

smoky mauve
#

Bruh.

dreamy crest
#

We have an arch stand in chat?

open marsh
#

Dark Angel's Chaplain. A Son of the Lion.

primal tide
plucky moth
#

hmmm

karmic stump
plucky moth
#

y'know

glad prism
karmic stump
#

It's shit like that that worries me

storm jungle
#

"shit like that"

#

bro

plucky moth
#

I think this has ran it's course, as hilarious as it is

karmic stump
#

GW retconning lore for woke points

storm jungle
#

WHAT WOKE POINTS

cursive hull
#

UUUUGH

slow prawn
#

Asmodai, an established character in DA canon, is black

cursive hull
#

Fuck off

open marsh
cursive hull
#

"Woke" Go fuck yourself

#

Actually die.

plucky moth
#

sorry lads n lasses

#

as funny as it was watching him dig his hole I had to end him

storm jungle
#

damn it

cursive hull
#

Good

storm jungle
#

i didnt sneak my comment in

atomic pelican
#

lmao

weak nova
#

Its stinky in here

primal tide
#

About fucking time

slow prawn
#

And this book came out in 2014 btw

weak nova
#

Smells like gamer

storm jungle
#

which was that The Emperor himself is literally a half-native american half-hittite superhuman since the start of the 40k universe kek

primal tide
#

Sure does smell like shit don't it

glad prism
#

Damn, just before I got to drop the mixtape no less

cursive hull
#

...Now lets start betting on whether that was Arch trying to infiltrate in so he could try to get back into the fandom.

plucky moth
#

yea sorry I was too busy laughing, he passed the point of being bannable like 10 minutes ago

storm jungle
#

i used to leak shit back in the day

open marsh
#

There is also a black imperial fist. Ill find him

crisp heath
#

Damn that person could be real, right?

smoky mauve
#

Whelp. Could a seen that banhammer coming from orbit lol

crisp heath
#

Lol

vapid tiger
#

damn it I missed the last bit

glad prism
#

Well, however we arrived here, I'm glad we all did it together

vapid tiger
#

should've kept him around for longer, maybe he'd start ranting about white ethnostates or something

glad prism
#

๐Ÿซ‚

open marsh
#

Well. Not an "Imperial Fist" but a Celestial Lion, a successor chapter of the Imperial Fists

cursive hull
#

Anyone who uses Woke like a slur is getting ejected.

And anyone who defends Arch for his entirely justified ejection should also be ejected to the same island of chud Arch was.

primal tide
#

I'm glad we could all gather round to shit on that guy together
That's what family does

plucky moth
#

apologies to anyone who might've been annoyed by all that, trust me he was at "any last words status" for pretty much that whole time, I was just seeing how far he'd dig lul

glad prism
#

It was fun while it lasted

smoky mauve
#

Didnt gw post a thing saying this hobby is for everyone, and if they dont like it they wont be missed? Because while I dont like a lot of their business practices,they got that one right at least

open marsh
#

Yeah that went south quick fast and in a hurry

cursive hull
#

I'd not be surprised if GW said that

#

GW is a business

#

They want to make money.

plucky moth
#

if he doesn't like it he can always appeal to Hedge about having his discord server rights violated OleOneEye

primal tide
#

He would be

weak nova
#

@plucky moth save any salty DMs for my next vermintide hate mail reading stream

plucky moth
smoky mauve
frosty cobalt
#

aw i missed the kicking out shame

#

was doing first vet mission in vt2

errant mauve
#

What a clown that dude was KEKW

storm jungle
#

a much more important task

crisp heath
#

It got really crazy there at the end

rotund siren
#

yup

vapid tiger
#

now we can make fun of medic

frosty cobalt
#

i knew from the first message

errant mauve
#

Then again, what did you expect from a dude that agreed with are politically

vapid tiger
#

for initially defending him

open marsh
#

nanidafuq

vapid tiger
#

you were going along with his initial bad takes

smoky mauve
#

There... was a LOT that went down the past 10 minutes lmao

vapid tiger
#

nothing against you but it's funny

primal tide
#

Don't blame medic, he just likes to argue

vapid tiger
#

that's fair

glad prism
#

I'm surprised more gamer words weren't tossed about

errant mauve
vapid tiger
#

i like medic overall tbf

atomic pelican
#

Actually playing the game is a social bottleneck that usually strangles out weirdasses

errant mauve
#

I find that a lot of the "no coloured people in MY 40k" don't have any armies and got into the game 2 months ago lul

smoky mauve
glad prism
#

Time to go and check to see if I might unknowingly share any servers with that chode.

primal tide
crisp heath
#

Yo Custodes are dope

errant mauve
#

I should paint some Saggitarium pink

#

Lawnstodes

crisp heath
#

But I also play Necrons

errant mauve
#

hehehe

open marsh
storm jungle
#

๐Ÿฆฉ

smoky mauve
errant mauve
#

You have done a great service to the adeptus custodes

glad prism
smoky mauve
#

Maybe that's why Constantine valdor left. To actually do something.

open marsh
#

Custodes just playing croquet

glad prism
#

Valdor's busy playing DND in some shed with a bunch of other sweaty fucks like us

open marsh
#

Roleplaying as his character ||The King in Yellow|| (Bequin: Pariah spoilers)

final spruce
#

So what happened ? I was busy avoiding the bonobos that i call italian football fans

frosty cobalt
#

fun stuff

vapid tiger
#

40k fandom stuff

final spruce
#

So uhhhhh the Arch apologist was banned ?

smoky mauve
#

I'm glad that dude is gone. Like... it's nice to see things in the hobbies you enjoy. It's when they put their kinda bullshit racist stuff into it, it gets bad. Like that one time a British neo nazi became part of the Bolt Action FB group I was part of.

It... was a bad time lmao.

glad prism
#

Mf just set the oversized fuse of his cartoon bomb and Incan eventually cracked

final spruce
#

Why is it that, every time someone comes here and agrees with Medic they end up being banned ?

crisp heath
#

Lol

storm jungle
errant mauve
open marsh
#

Did I stab someone's mother or something?

storm jungle
#

yet people keep getting mad over there being black people in it for some reason

#

like fuck off

crisp heath
#

Medic tells a take

final spruce
#

I think you are moreso a beacon of smoothbrains

#

They come to you thinking you're kin

atomic pelican
weak nova
#

Dude dug so deep he hit bedrock and instead of stopping he just bashed his head against it til incan pulled the trigger

glad prism
#

If there were Persians in universe attempting to speak Gothic, that's where I draw the line, I can't stand the thought of my people like my parents trying to converse in any other language with that accent

final spruce
#

I guess that cadian pattern flak moment set you in stone

vapid tiger
atomic pelican
grand minnow
plucky moth
#

fellas let's be nice to Medic alright

glad prism
final spruce
atomic pelican
#

๐Ÿ˜ฉ

plucky moth
#

he made that dude 180 his brain trying to process the existence of a non-white dark angel

grand minnow
#

Fair enough, not saying he shouldnt have been baned, but that was a bit much about the die part

plucky moth
#

I nearly spat out my coffee lul

glad prism
#

Medic: 1
uHHhHH: uh

glad prism
frosty cobalt
glad prism
#

He underestimated the power of Familyโ„ข๏ธ

grand minnow
#

New topic, why werent the necrons called the necroffs before they changed

crisp heath
#

Lol

glad prism
#

The right questions are being asked.

final spruce
#

I mean people keep asking us why we hate SM when literally half od the SM fans get banned for being racist or nazi apologetics

atomic pelican
errant mauve
plucky moth
#

I just don't like ultramarines because that much blue is fucking stupid ok I'm sorry but it's true

final spruce
#

Like cmon man my schyzo brain is beginning to see pattterns

plucky moth
#

fuckin hotwheels looking bastards

atomic pelican
#

Its not even that we really hate space marines. sm fans just arent used to actually getting ribbed like every other faction soes

#

Does

#

Thinskin

open marsh
frosty cobalt
plucky moth
errant mauve
grand minnow
#

Space mariens get the parents love the most

plucky moth
storm jungle
#

LMAO

#

@errant mauve WE HIT INCAN WITH THE DOUBLE

final spruce
#

Poor Incan

glad prism
#

Y'all both beat me to it

#

Fack

crisp heath
#

Dang poor Incan

grand minnow
#

If i did build marines, id just make them hospital colors

glad prism
#

Dead coloured marines are best marines

crisp heath
#

White Scars best

open marsh
glad prism
#

Then again, dead coloured everything be best

vapid tiger
grand minnow
#

Wow, i was just bs ing about the hospital ones

plucky moth
#

what's annoying is I like blue, I just wish the ultramarines weren't so heavy on it

grand minnow
#

Id just like to say, angron did nothing wrong

plucky moth
#

they could've totally gone with someone less uhhhh...childish looking

open marsh
smoky mauve
storm jungle
#

Yeah the entire legion ultramarine are posterboys is because blue looks pretty on a market front and catches your eyes

cerulean wagon
#

its too light a blue

storm jungle
#

its nothing else

cerulean wagon
#

like

#

im working on a full blue valk atm

vapid tiger
#

The best homebrew chapter tho??

errant mauve
cerulean wagon
#

and its in navy blue

plucky moth
frosty cobalt
#

yea its unnatural blue i dont like it

glad prism
#

I'd have preferred a cobalt blue or something I think

errant mauve
open marsh
#

@smoky mauvebtw there is an entire chapter of Leandros marines

plucky moth
#

like if you showed me armour that was ENTIRELY yellow I'd retch

plucky moth
#

but if it had yellow patterning or something then sure I could vibe with it probs

glad prism
errant mauve
#

So

smoky mauve
#

I dunno. Like the bright colors.... I mean I get it for shock troops? Like they're sorta meant to be seen?

errant mauve
#

2014

#

/tg/

#

an innocent anon creates a thread for homebrew SM chapters

glad prism
#

Yeah, sounds about right

errant mauve
#

the heading chapter is a SW successor called "brotherhood of the knot"

open marsh
smoky mauve
#

Maybe it's all about balance?

final spruce
grand minnow
errant mauve
final spruce
primal tide
#

He did knot see that coming

open marsh
errant mauve
#

He had written 10 pages of lore for them but the rest of the thread was everyone going "Anon..."

grand minnow
#

Knot everyone was into it

open marsh
glad prism
#

For every utterly banal homebrew, is one so catastrophically hilarious it becomes a singularity

smoky mauve
errant mauve
#

He didn't know it was a knot-ty word

plucky moth
open marsh
plucky moth
#

like I get it ULTRAMARINE BLUE HAHA VERI FUNNY SADIANGIDFGNRIEGNB

but pls just...yea navy or midnight c'mon

cerulean wagon
open marsh
errant mauve
#

Good ol' Iron and Hazard Stripes

#

nothin beats that

cerulean wagon
#

doing dark navy blue for em and then like going to do an off white belly

plucky moth
open marsh
plucky moth
#

if it were like, straight up highlighter yellow I'd die

vapid tiger
plucky moth
frosty cobalt
vapid tiger
#

His first real exposure to 40k was a deathwatch campaign I ran and he wanted to make his own chapter up

errant mauve
#

When the Iron is Within! sus

vapid tiger
#

But he was in a weird phase?

glad prism
vapid tiger
#

So he wanted to make a chapter of "dat boi"

This was years ago btw

errant mauve
#

I love MM but I am never painting them

open marsh
frosty cobalt
odd palm
#

Hold up we simping some drip IW models?

errant mauve
#

Executioners 4 lyfe happy

glad prism
errant mauve
odd palm
vapid tiger
#

I said "no that's dumb" as did everyone else and he settled on using the creation tables and making his chapter frog themed. Neat enough

#

Well we get into the first session and this fucker

glad prism
frosty cobalt
open marsh
errant mauve
vapid tiger
#

His marine introduces himself

"I SERVE THE AMPHIBIAN"

and this keeps going