40k-lore-chat

[cerulean wagon]

turning on a power generator takes hours of rites and incantations

[odd sparrow]

and way better than the og stuff lol

[storm jungle]

the wings are just really stupid but i love everything else

its clearly something nobody ever bothered on thinking how it'd function

like

[visual pumice]

The Winged men are cool

[odd sparrow]

I love the lil winged bois

[storm jungle]

does it fucking flap its wings

[barren tapir]

I disagree, but hey, the Ad. Mech. is also very vast, so different interpretation still fit in

[odd sparrow]

just sticking it on an aircraft is like

yeah idk

[storm jungle]

^

[cerulean wagon]

i dont like the winbois either

[potent swift]

You say ruined but I actually like them, peak mechanicus philosophy to do something the hard and techy way instead of the practical

[odd sparrow]

it's that it's a bird it's a plane it's--- both? CAAWW i hate it

[cerulean wagon]

[storm jungle]

https://www.games-workshop.com/resources/catalog/product/920x950/99120116024_AMStratoraptorLead.jpg

[odd sparrow]

comic

[storm jungle]

No ratty

its TRASH

[odd sparrow]

that's all i can think of

[cerulean wagon]

PUT IT IN THE BIN

WHERE IT BELONGS

[odd sparrow]

,, it does appear like it flaps its wings

[visual pumice]

AC2 lookin ass

[storm jungle]

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/RR4oRbDlGJ4/maxresdefault.jpg

[potent swift]

You know Admech are hightech when they can make that thing function

[storm jungle]

comin for u

[odd sparrow]

But ye beyond that like, admech is a v diverse faction in any case u can sorta attach ur own interpretations to it

[visual pumice]

Ezio 😳

[barren tapir]

Yes, for me GW ruined Ad. Mech. air, but i don't say that mine way to see the Ad. Mech. is the only right way... Different forge worlds give way to have many different way to see the Ad. Mech

[odd sparrow]

they range from beepboop binary says fuck you to YOU DARE QUESTION THE WORDS OF THE MIGHTY JIMMY

[visual pumice]

I’d like more insectoid stuff for admech aswell tbh

[odd sparrow]

Same

[storm jungle]

can john blanche design more admech gimps

[odd sparrow]

insufficient spider leg rn

[visual pumice]

They have their dire wolves and horses and birds

[odd sparrow]

all we have is sorta-cawl and that one forgeworld dude

[cerulean wagon]

id love to see

[storm jungle]

insufficient leather

[visual pumice]

Where’s the big crab

[cerulean wagon]

more admech walkers

[odd sparrow]

we are NOT

attaching the weird bdsm leather blanche obsession onto admech

[cerulean wagon]

like

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/856670584967790632/858135036384903198/5d85b21e74d8ccacabde03ad9c287956.jpg

[odd sparrow]

nope

[cerulean wagon]

[barren tapir]

Unpopular opinion: the cowboys/dogriders are awful

[odd sparrow]

keep kink out of 40k

[cerulean wagon]

GIVE ME WALKING BOAT

[odd sparrow]

have u considered that ur awful

[barren tapir]

They should use motorbikes

[odd sparrow]

,, no

[storm jungle]

I love the literal martian tripod

[odd sparrow]

that would be dull

[barren tapir]

Yes, and it was partially correct

[storm jungle]

also 40k was built on BDSM

sorry to say

[odd sparrow]

idc

[storm jungle]

[odd sparrow]

it's weird and i dislike it

[storm jungle]

too bad

[potent swift]

Give me Admech Mortenebra

[storm jungle]

NOW SIT YOUR ASS DOWN

[potent swift]

https://home.privateerpress.com/wp-content/uploads/attachments/11-Mortenebra-Numen-of-Necrogenesis_Hardy-Fowler_28NOV16.png

[cerulean wagon]

dilara you were built on bdsm

😠

[storm jungle]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/294604960614842368/841716131194470450/20210511_142903.jpg

im happy GW hasnt given up the kink game

lets gooooo

[visual pumice]

THIGH

[odd sparrow]

that's not even kinky???

it's just

[storm jungle]

BRUH HER LEG IS FULLY EXPOSED

[barren tapir]

Dumb

[odd sparrow]

exposed thigh and nice corset

THAT DOESN'T MEAN KINK

kink is like

[storm jungle]

SHUT UP

[odd sparrow]

fucking sisters repentia looking like a ballgag wouldn't be out of character

that's what i have issue with??

[barren tapir]

She go in the underhive like she go to a ballet...

[cerulean wagon]

OH NO

[odd sparrow]

oh god

[cerulean wagon]

WOMEN HAVE LEGS

[odd sparrow]

the gimp servitor

[storm jungle]

https://youtu.be/6p3FsA0olbQ?t=22

[odd sparrow]

,, alright i make an exception for that one

i love the lil gimp dude

doing his best

[cerulean wagon]

they uhh, actually have barbed wire gags

idk if thats better or worse

[storm jungle]

its pretty good

[odd sparrow]

I dont need this

[storm jungle]

further proof that ratty is weak

[cerulean wagon]

tbf

its not based in BDSM

its based in old christian punishments

[odd sparrow]

you're gonna tell me

that the og sisters repentia

weren't based on bondage

[storm jungle]

I mean they still are

[odd sparrow]

like. sir do u have EYES

i blame blanche

[cerulean wagon]

im not even kidding ratty lmao

[plucky moth]

https://tenor.com/view/callboys-op-vier-vier-vier-tv-gif-15198742

[odd sparrow]

this is all his fault and i dont wanna know what's in his basement

[storm jungle]

blanche is still great

[open marsh]

Totally not a kink

[storm jungle]

he made servo-teddies

i got proof

[odd sparrow]

100% i adore his art but good lord

[odd sparrow]

the logstics of this are forever challenging

[cerulean wagon]

christianity spreading rampant bdsm

[odd sparrow]

like, she's meant to be in power armour right

[cerulean wagon]

smh

[storm jungle]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/516733962475929618/742987248592617494/924f18c92bb7184ee75a9bcacb45ad63.png

[odd sparrow]

why does it look like latex

[storm jungle]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/516733962475929618/742987329689354270/unknown.png

get em

[odd sparrow]

babi

[storm jungle]

also god blanche's heel fetish is

[crisp heath]

Logistics and facts don't matter next to FAITH IN THE EMPEROR AODCKSOFIE9VODKSD

[odd sparrow]

tbh i can respect being horny for heels

[crisp heath]

Same

[storm jungle]

mood

[crisp heath]

Also they make for a nice joke

[odd sparrow]

tall women

™️

[storm jungle]

exterminate

[crisp heath]

Cos whoever wears heels means they can put you to heel-

[cerulean wagon]

blanche has a taste for heels n thighs

[crisp heath]

Kinky

[cerulean wagon]

which is based

[gaunt vector]

what's this one called again?

[storm jungle]

uhh its a necromunda model

reverse image might help

[odd sparrow]

ye i forget the name

[cerulean wagon]

isnt it the uh

waterguild one

[storm jungle]

also

https://i.redd.it/ibw999t3mjy21.jpg

ass

[odd sparrow]

eopahigeadfged

WHAT

[storm jungle]

YE BOI

[cerulean wagon]

WHY IS SHE SO THICC

WTF

[odd sparrow]

WHAT IS THAT POSE

WITH THE DUMPTRUCK ASS

[storm jungle]

ITS A MARTIAN ASSASSIN™️

[visual pumice]

She’s farting

[dim totem]

Is that thing skiing

[storm jungle]

no wonder mars is so polluted

[odd sparrow]

i feel threatened

[storm jungle]

OMG

SAME ENERGY

[odd sparrow]

YTES

[cerulean wagon]

wait

[odd sparrow]

THAT'S WHAT I WAS THINKING

[cerulean wagon]

is this image puddles

[storm jungle]

yes

[odd sparrow]

It might be honestly

her true form

[gaunt vector]

wtf is dat

[cerulean wagon]

puddles has a dump truck ass confirmed?

[odd sparrow]

new headcanon

[plucky moth]

[storm jungle]

[odd sparrow]

no kink here

no sir

[storm jungle]

get em boys

[odd sparrow]

we're only good christians in the games workshop sex dungeon

[plucky moth]

the imperium must have rubber shortages on the regular huh

[odd sparrow]

i imagine they've figured out a way to turn corpses into rubber

[gaunt vector]

they must just have multiple worlds dedicated to that

[odd sparrow]

p sure the imperium has figured out how to turn corpses into everything

[storm jungle]

just like how they get infinite wax

with Bee-Worlds

[odd sparrow]

yes i have seen that meme too

[storm jungle]

ikr

its great

[odd sparrow]

look

the wax is 100% made out of corpses

if it's a vaguely biological commodity and it's in the imperium it's made out of bodies

[open marsh]

No kinks here. Please move along

[cerulean wagon]

or synthetic

[dim totem]

So not with an earwax tithe?

[cerulean wagon]

like coffee in 40k

which no longer exists as it was

we just have this shitty reproduction version

[crisp heath]

Literally the first thing I thought when I saw it

You ever wonder if the 40k guardsmen are just like

is this heresy or is this just awesome

[storm jungle]

I'd say yes and always

[odd sparrow]

single tit exposed is a powerful aesthetic

also that just looks like a pinup arbites

[storm jungle]

Yes and yes

[potent swift]

Wait, you mean that's not an actual thing?

[broken kayak]

https://tenor.com/view/heretica-garbage-gif-11271711

[cerulean wagon]

its not

[odd sparrow]

an imperial guardsmen would put that on the side of their chimera for the duration of the campaign before eventually being beaten to death by a gaggle of actual arbites who took offense

[storm jungle]

before they

""confiscate"" it

[peak hamlet]

😳

[odd sparrow]

justify it by some verse of the book of judgement from M33

[storm jungle]

LOL or just that

[cerulean wagon]

IG do actually do like

old style character art on their vehicles

[cerulean wagon]

i love it

[odd sparrow]

idk if the tts interpretation of the arbites was accurate to fluff but like

if it isn't then the fluff isn't valid

[peak hamlet]

Holy shit i think im slowly changing my mind on no unnecessary kink within the imperium

[final spruce]

Damn she could kill people with those Tomb Raider 1 boobies

[odd sparrow]

powerful

[storm jungle]

nah man nobody can beat laura

[odd sparrow]

the whip really sels it

[crisp heath]

The Imperium of Man is all kink.

[peak hamlet]

Also holy shit

[storm jungle]

those ballistics of hers can kill Imperators

[open marsh]

road cone tiddies

[crisp heath]

Why do you think their adepta sororitas are all nuns

[odd sparrow]

you stab the hertics with them

[crisp heath]

And listen to just like 1 old guy

[storm jungle]

https://qph.fs.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-db68b271410fe1219077ef1a1d013bca-c

gonna slit guilliman's throat with these babies

[crisp heath]

Can you imagine being the chief ecclesiarch and being surrounded by lots of jacked up hot women

[odd sparrow]

stop

I refuse to interpret the SoB as anything other than like

[crisp heath]

40k lore discussion I sleep
shitposting lore discussion I woke

[odd sparrow]

40% hot ppl

60% rule 63'd danny devitos

in power armour

[storm jungle]

LSDFDSSDF

tho jokes aside

even the lore says most of them are really beautiful

make of that what you will

[odd sparrow]

how does that even work

do they judge new recruits by their looks

[cerulean wagon]

i think thats more cause the lore just coveres more beautiful people

the only character i can think of thats said to be ugly is fucking

[odd sparrow]

or does the emperor magic just grant them good bone structure and warpmagic skincare routines

[cerulean wagon]

jurgen

[potent swift]

They recruit exclusively off of Onlyfaith

[crisp heath]

Jurgen is literally the most repulsive guy ever yeah lmao

[odd sparrow]

we stan jurgen

[crisp heath]

Stinky with no hygiene
And constantly horny

But dude is based as fuck

[storm jungle]

Its mostly because as harsh as their upbringing in the boarding schools are they are fed well and gain peak physique because of their spartan treatment

[odd sparrow]

ye but being like, fit, isn't the same as being pretty

[storm jungle]

idk man

the book said it

not me

stop nitpicking before i shoot

[odd sparrow]

LOOK

im not saying anything but like

[cerulean wagon]

look ratty

if they got a 6 pack and a few scars

you gonna complain

[odd sparrow]

Absolutely not

but still

if they're not all sorted to be supermodels then cmon represent that

[open marsh]

Even in art, SoBs arent really "fit". They are scrawny. Models are good tho

[odd sparrow]

what's the name of the no capes lady from the incredibles

i want her

like four feet tall

[storm jungle]

Edna Mode

chadette

[odd sparrow]

Yes.

[storm jungle]

https://tenor.com/view/edna-evil-laugh-smiling-the-incredibles-gif-9419864

[open marsh]

Wife material to the max

[odd sparrow]

i refuse to accept any interpretation of SoB that doesn't have them to be strong af

like, cmon what's even the point

[open marsh]

Oh I agree. Their art depictions are shiiiiittttt

[storm jungle]

bald

[broken kayak]

https://tenor.com/view/fembots-tits-sparks-fire-gif-16745917

[odd sparrow]

the only valid art depiction is the sea of aggressively gay fanart for them

[storm jungle]

this tbh

[crisp heath]

I mean tbf

If you were the ecclesiarch

Would you pick UGLY sororitas?

[open marsh]

Self-mutilation not the point here. But look at her arms. She doesnt have the muscle mass needed to lift that chainsword. let along swing it in battle

[storm jungle]

i cant even joke about it in the SoB server since they're cowards and spam nothing but bonk memes and say "no horny"

fookin cowards

[crisp heath]

You'd be like
N-nu
I pick hot girls for the uhh

Faith of the emperor xc

[odd sparrow]

Yeah that is sorta weird tbh

[storm jungle]

i guess they get no food

[crisp heath]

Memes aside tho

[storm jungle]

aside from metal

[open marsh]

That place is toxic as fuck

[crisp heath]

Ugly charas just don't sell

[odd sparrow]

ye but they dont even look like they're scrawny strong??

[plucky moth]

I should visit, I am never horny

[crisp heath]

Unless they're like
Special ugly

[odd sparrow]

that's a thing but like

[storm jungle]

Gal Gadot these ladies aint

[open marsh]

Really shouldnt. That place is a shithold

[crisp heath]

Reminds me of r/40klore

Banned topics:
Archwarhammer
Female space Marines

[open marsh]

Its pretty much run by like 2 or 3 people with a fetish for the Sobs. They are friends on other servers where they role play as SoBs domming Astartes.

Its really fuckin weird

[odd sparrow]

roleplaying as-

Lord help me

[plucky moth]

but also...not horny??

[odd sparrow]

not horny at all

[plucky moth]

something here doesn't add up

[odd sparrow]

not even a bit

[crisp heath]

Tbf

[odd sparrow]

Saintly

the virgin mary herself runs this server

[crisp heath]

Astartes apparently have massive dongs

[odd sparrow]

and she has wet dreams about white haired nuns

[crisp heath]

So not that horny

[storm jungle]

NOT AGAIN

[odd sparrow]

SHUT

[crisp heath]

HahahahaAHAHAHA

[odd sparrow]

we're not having the astartes dong discussion again

im sorry

but

[crisp heath]

HEY AT LEAST THEY'RE BASED

Cos they're celibate

[open marsh]

Not wrong. Its just a shame they dont have the drive to use them

[plucky moth]

I guess that explains why they aren't so smart

[crisp heath]

I am horny only for PURGING CHAOS AND XENOS

I appreciate that mindset

[plucky moth]

all that repressed horny would defo drag blood away from the brain

[storm jungle]

https://youtu.be/CS9OO0S5w2k?t=45

[odd sparrow]

apparently space wolves are known for continuing to bone

unsurprisingly

[crisp heath]

Isn't that why they only get horny with wolf tits-

[odd sparrow]

idk if BA are in current fluff but any interpretation of BA that doesn't have them be horny isn't valid

[crisp heath]

I mean wat

[storm jungle]

AA-

[storm jungle]

thats actually a thing btw

its from the 1999 Space Wolf book

if you get horny they kill you

[crisp heath]

Wolf tits and Tzeentch economical plans from the warp

[storm jungle]

LOL

[odd sparrow]

The next person who makes the space wolf furry joke is going to be killed

[plucky moth]

wot on earth

[crisp heath]

It's a tts joke

[storm jungle]

no it isnt

[crisp heath]

But still one of my favorites

[storm jungle]

its real

[odd sparrow]

it's not a tts joke

it's a boring 40k fan joke

[crisp heath]

No I know it's real

[odd sparrow]

that has been repeated

SO FUCKING MUCH

[storm jungle]

oh no

[odd sparrow]

i wanna bury myself

[crisp heath]

It's just that that's my favorite depiction of that joke

[odd sparrow]

im going to hell does anyone want anything

[crisp heath]

Uhhh

[plucky moth]

nice of you to visit

[crisp heath]

Maybe some Oan Mkoll

Dude's about as plot armor-y as sly marbo

So might as well get him

[odd sparrow]

australia is frequently on fire, under us and populated by demonic entities

yeah i buy it

[crisp heath]

Australia is secretly Cadia

Or is it Catachan?

[potent swift]

Rubble?

[crisp heath]

Cos literally everything wants to murder you

[odd sparrow]

australia doesn't exist so yes it's cadia

it's just a cover story so that the brits could dump convicts into the sea

[crisp heath]

Tru

[odd sparrow]

made up a whole continent so they could claim they were just relocating them

[crisp heath]

I suddenly remember how

Warhammer fantasy describes albion

[plucky moth]

Disney's Atlantis

[crisp heath]

Wasn't it like

Tall blonde aryan giants

Who are super based

[odd sparrow]

,,, i hope not

[crisp heath]

meanwhile right across them was like

[odd sparrow]

also shut the fuck up you fool

[potent swift]

Druids are all I recall about Albion

[crisp heath]

I remember very little about it from fantasy

[odd sparrow]

it's just the ~vaguely druid-y celtic place~

[storm jungle]

what about the chaos attack on the wookies

[crisp heath]

Other than it being weird

And Britain

[plucky moth]

Albion
Albioff

[crisp heath]

Cadia
Cadinah

[potent swift]

Don't forget Albyon for 40k

[final spruce]

Cadia
Cadnein

[storm jungle]

Albnyah

[crisp heath]

Also gotta admit

I love how the IG look

Vostroyans

[peak hamlet]

https://wh40k.lexicanum.com/mediawiki/images/f/fc/WoundedHeartSister.jpg
https://wh40k.lexicanum.com/mediawiki/images/7/7f/ThornSister.jpg

[crisp heath]

Are just
What
Napoleonic era Russians garbs

[odd sparrow]

lets not forget the planet birmingham

[odd sparrow]

! this is what im talking about

angry deranged murder nuns

[odd sparrow]

who dont look like they spend an hour in the bathroom before going out™️

[crisp heath]

That's probably the most realistic depiction of them

[potent swift]

Vostroyans and Mordians are peak IG, with steel legion in the running

[crisp heath]

But 40k don't sell as much stuff if they're all ugly sadly

[peak hamlet]

Im sorry 😔

[crisp heath]

Even ugly has a... designed beauty about it?

[peak hamlet]

But yeah i prefer zealous ugly sisters too

[storm jungle]

Get outta here

[peak hamlet]

Why should they use makeup? Does the god emperor want them to?

[crisp heath]

At the end of the day
They're literally just humans

[storm jungle]

YES???

[crisp heath]

But most fiction will make em hot cos

[storm jungle]

THEY WEAR BLACK LIPSTICK IN THE ART

[crisp heath]

Yes

[peak hamlet]

I.. i..

[storm jungle]

bruh do you even Lore™️

get your ugly nuns outta here

[peak hamlet]

😭

[storm jungle]

DIE-DIE

[potent swift]

They're Emps brides, they gotta look nice for Big E

[peak hamlet]

They are cannon too

[plucky moth]

Warpaint ofc

[crisp heath]

Ngl I think the only ugly nuns I remember were in ciaphas cain

And mostly cos they got mind controlled by chaos

[storm jungle]

Chaos instantly makes you ugly

[crisp heath]

And they promptly sudoku-ed after getting close to Jurgen or smth grim

[storm jungle]

Fact™️

[odd sparrow]

Evil ppl are ugly

[crisp heath]

can't live with the heresies chaos made them commit

[odd sparrow]

good ppl are pretty

except fulgrim he's the exception

[crisp heath]

like putting a funny moustache on an emperor statue

[peak hamlet]

Why does everybody paint them while beein horny? No wonder they look like anime girs with too much makeup and not like zealous ugly nuns 😭

[crisp heath]

Hey now
Lucius is hot too

If you like
Edgy tentacle boys

[peak hamlet]

Slannesh wont

[crisp heath]

Who look like they got ran over 100 times+

[storm jungle]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/762065410492858389/791499719431159848/unknown.png?width=400&height=193

[odd sparrow]

doesn't he look like a low budget 90s horror film villain

LOOK

[potent swift]

It takes genuine skill to paint one handed

[peak hamlet]

W-what

[peak hamlet]

YIKES

[odd sparrow]

there's a beauty to ferrus that ur missing

[crisp heath]

https://tenor.com/view/if-the-emperor-had-a-text-to-speech-device-slaanesh-patrol-gif-14922012

Lucius isn't so bad yknow

[storm jungle]

hes gonna make you into skinsauce™️

[crisp heath]

He just kinda wants to.violate every part of your soul while chopping you to bits

Normal teenage angst

[storm jungle]

also university basically

[odd sparrow]

wh

[crisp heath]

Facts

[odd sparrow]

what's university got to do with this

[storm jungle]

all of them

[frosty cobalt]

damn this chat been wild since i went to bed

[crisp heath]

Actually
Is it university
Or call center jobs-

[odd sparrow]

I wanna go to the void

[peak hamlet]

Yeah like how is 99% of slannesh stuff beautiful and lucius is like.. potatoe

[potent swift]

He's got that innerbeauty going on

[odd sparrow]

guess they'd already created sigvald 2.0

didn't wanna do it again

[crisp heath]

Ngl
slaanesh is probably the most bullshit god

Since being the god of pleasure means you pop out literally everywhere.

actual sex
pursuit of interests
general daily fulfillment of life

[potent swift]

They're all pretty applicable tho

[crisp heath]

As long as you enjoy something
You're technically worshipping slaanesh

Which is kinda op

Only thing equally worse/weird is tzeentch

[potent swift]

Everyone gets mad, or sick, or hopes for stuff

[crisp heath]

Since tzeentch is literally just

Maybe yes or no

[peak hamlet]

Slannesh is more on the exess side

[coarse mirage]

I think it's more about excess than normal pleasure

[crisp heath]

It is, ye

But since all the chaos gods are forms of excess

[storm jungle]

Drinking wine > you are a chaos spawn now

[peak hamlet]

Yeah tzeentch is weird af

Wheras nurgle is just super wholesome

[crisp heath]

The moment you get any satisfaction from it
It's still worshipping slaanesh cos of how...

"Gray area" his stuff is

Khorne berserkers are addicted to spilling blood for instance

[coarse mirage]

Tzeentch vs the Trickster, let's go

[peak hamlet]

Tzeentch ez clap

[crisp heath]

Tzeentch is the only equally bs one because existential dread is op

[odd sparrow]

nobody knows how the chaos gods actually work and nobody wants to bother trying to set any ground rules

it makes no sense

[crisp heath]

All I know is
Khorne is lame

Nurgle is wholesome

[odd sparrow]

khorne is classy tbh

[crisp heath]

Tzeentch is bullshit

And slaanesh is broken

[odd sparrow]

like, he's simple and generic but still

[cerulean wagon]

nurgle is not wholesome

[crisp heath]

He's wholesome!

Just forget the patt where he rots your flesh away

[coarse mirage]

I think you misunderstand Nurgle then

[crisp heath]

And eats your soul.

[peak hamlet]

Nurgle = wholesome
Slaanesh = holesome

[crisp heath]

;-;

[cerulean wagon]

hes about as wholesome as my fucking foot

[coarse mirage]

all hole

[odd sparrow]

tbh nurgle is described as being benevolent and cherishing to his followers by a bunch of sources

[peak hamlet]

Nurgle will literally invite you to his mansion and have a nice talk with you

[odd sparrow]

nobody's out here like

[crisp heath]

Depends
Do you have athlete's foot
Cos then the parallel applies-

[peak hamlet]

Plus he saved an eldar god from slaanesh

[odd sparrow]

ah yes nurgle a good man surely he is great

[cerulean wagon]

no but feet are fucking disgusting

[crisp heath]

That's a gray area at least

[coarse mirage]

I'm reminded of a page from a comic where a Slaaneshi daemon has her long fingers in under the skin of a mans skull and he's cooming

[crisp heath]

He saved her so he can experiment on her

[odd sparrow]

what

[cerulean wagon]

ah yes "saved"

[peak hamlet]

No stop leave me in my imagination

[crisp heath]

But his experiments on her yield cures

( cures she makes anyway )

[cerulean wagon]

cure shes makes but cant go anywhere

[potent swift]

AOS Khorne is cool, he chopped a wiazard city in half. When was the last time 40khorne did anything that cool?

[crisp heath]

Yep

[cerulean wagon]

cause shes trapped in nurgles garden

[coarse mirage]

Isha? More like yeesha

[cerulean wagon]

and he makes ever more powerful diseases

its a big yikes

[crisp heath]

Tbf blame the eldar pantheon

If they werent a buncha pansies

Maybe they wouldn't have gotten wiped out by the god of coom

[peak hamlet]

Remember that one sickness nurgle made which turned out to be a super effective desinfect?

[cerulean wagon]

most of the eldar gods had killed eachother before slaanesh

[crisp heath]

Memeing aside tho

[storm jungle]

can you imagine

[crisp heath]

Nurgle is wholesome kinda

[gusty fulcrum]

His greatest embarresment?

[storm jungle]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/564066493508222986.png?v=1

[crisp heath]

But his baby greater demons aren't

[cerulean wagon]

hes not wholesome at all

[crisp heath]

I remember the ravenor series

And Slyte was bullshit

[final spruce]

Ah yes, kidnapping is wholesome

[peak hamlet]

Yes, he forbid anybody who witnessed it to ever talk about it

[coarse mirage]

Nurgle is despair so pure and twisted that it comes out the other end as joy.

[cerulean wagon]

kidnapping and extended torture

so wholesome

[crisp heath]

As wholesome as chaos gods go anyway.

[gusty fulcrum]

Well i mean he represents family>>

[crisp heath]

Not a big bar tbh

[final spruce]

But they love eachother wdym

[coarse mirage]

https://tenor.com/view/rlm-redlettermedia-sad-gif-5892533

[peak hamlet]

He saved her from beeing succd by slaanesh

[cerulean wagon]

he didntd save her

he tortures her

[vapid tiger]

gork and mork are the only gods worth worshipping

[gusty fulcrum]

Part of his schtick of also representing a sense of permenance

[cerulean wagon]

shes literaly an experiment to make the greatest disease

[crisp heath]

Technically he saved her from slaanesh... so he could torture her

[final spruce]

Literally tests all his new plagues on her

[storm jungle]

theres a reason the poxwalkers on the darktide screenshots all got rictus grins

[crisp heath]

So doing a good thing for the wrong reasons

Kek

[peak hamlet]

He saved her and now experiments on her, he did save her tho

[storm jungle]

CRACK

[cerulean wagon]

thats not saving

[crisp heath]

Me waiting for new Darktide news

[peak hamlet]

It is

[cerulean wagon]

its really not

i hate that meme so much cause its fucked up

[gusty fulcrum]

No he's treating her to some good ol fashioned home cooking made with the freshest ingredients grown in his garden

[cerulean wagon]

there are fates worse than death and she is suffering one of them

[storm jungle]

We got the whole squad here

[crisp heath]

Idk I'd say soul eating is the worst

[potent swift]

Nurgle and Isha ain't Hades and Persephone, very different dynamic

[crisp heath]

Since you don't actually die

[peak hamlet]

HE saved her from slaanesh, now somebody has to save her from him. Im aware it isnt all that nice what hes doing to her but he did save her in the first place

[cerulean wagon]

soul eating you are atleast dead after

and not eternally suffering exponentially worse diseases

[crisp heath]

Not really
You're just there forever getting tortured too

[storm jungle]

[peak hamlet]

Man they look so happy c:

[gusty fulcrum]

Baiscly

[cerulean wagon]

thats literaly not saving

[peak hamlet]

Yes 100% this

[cerulean wagon]

it wasnt done with the purpose of saving

it was done with the purpose of torture

[storm jungle]

Jokes aside no, shes being fucking tortured alive with chaos AIDS

[final spruce]

And denying Slaneesh Eldar

[vapid tiger]

Look at how happy they are

I'm sure they aren't still totally aware of their condition and trapped in their own bodies that have been forced to smile

[gusty fulcrum]

Well its implied she slips the cures for those same diseases back to mortals

[crisp heath]

Tbf you're already gone if you get to that point

[final spruce]

If we listen to da books, they aren't

[crisp heath]

Your soul is nurgle's long before you get weird

[cerulean wagon]

i hate the meme cause people are so into the meme they literaly cannot see what is wrong with it

[final spruce]

I think its Lords of Silence where you follow an IG being slowly turned into a poxwalker

[cerulean wagon]

like the whole "but nurgle is good cause u dont feel pain" meanwhile all nurgle followers are basically mentally dead to overcome the burden on their body

[final spruce]

In the end he just feels pleasure doing Nurgle's work

[crisp heath]

Also
I guess technically Nurgle treats his followers the best?

[peak hamlet]

Yeah i mean he 100% saved her, see no problem at all with her beeing tortured 24/7

[vapid tiger]

"Victims of the Walking Pox find their bodies rotting and shutting down until death eventually takes them. Yet this is not the end. The sufferer remains cruelly conscious and aware, unlike a zombie, trapped within their corpse as it reanimates with a rictus grin and staggers off in search of the living."

[crisp heath]

Khorne dgaf

[peak hamlet]

100%

[final spruce]

Also he feels empty 99% of the time because he doesn't feel anything

[gusty fulcrum]

Well its implied she also kinda does this so she can also in turn whisper the cures to those same diseases back to mortals

[crisp heath]

Tzeentch and slaanesh fuck with them 24/7

[odd sparrow]

i'd say it's like

[crisp heath]

Nurgle kinda cares

[storm jungle]

AAAAAAA-

[crisp heath]

As much as a decaying god of rot can anyway

[odd sparrow]

nurgle cares about his followers the most and probs tzeentch the least?

tzeentch doesn't give a fuck

[gusty fulcrum]

Nurgle is love

Nurgle is life

[crisp heath]

Ye tzeentch fucks with everoyne

[cerulean wagon]

he doesn't thats literaly just the memes

[crisp heath]

He can elevate imps or lay down great demons

Just cos he feels like it

[cerulean wagon]

so can any god

[storm jungle]

Nurgle is cancer

Nurgle is cringe

[peak hamlet]

Nurgle even employs "bilepipers" who are just there to entertain other demons, great unclean ones have a nice laught and nurglings are happy too

[gaunt vector]

litteraly

[crisp heath]

Ye
But tzeentch does it arbitrarily

[gusty fulcrum]

Hes bascily the closest to a caring chaos god still ironicly

[storm jungle]

He doesnt care tho

jesus christ

HE LITERALLY USES YOU AS TOOLS

[coarse mirage]

Nurgle is the worst of the four to be honest

[storm jungle]

GET THAT PUS OUT OF YOUR EARS

[crisp heath]

He does

[cerulean wagon]

hobo please i know u are memeing but people actually believe that

[peak hamlet]

U are cringe :,(

[odd sparrow]

god

[storm jungle]

aight imma head out to the warp

[cerulean wagon]

like no jokes people believe nurgle causes no issues and is good

[storm jungle]

🚪 🚶‍♀️

[crisp heath]

Bai bai

[odd sparrow]

why do yall give a shit about this

[gusty fulcrum]

Cuz were nerds

[crisp heath]

Typical 40k lore chat tbh
This is even tamer than normal Ahhaa

[odd sparrow]

Nurgle is evil, nurgle also has a character of the whole paternal benevolent grandfather vibes to his followers*

there aren't mutually exclusive

[crisp heath]

I've seen people get into doxxing fights

[peak hamlet]

Im aware that beeing tortured with crazy sicknesses is kinda waful but he really does threat his demons good

[crisp heath]

Just cos they don't like certain authors

[cerulean wagon]

he doesnt treat his demons good, he doesnt care for them

he just wants disease

[vapid tiger]

None of the chaos gods are good

Nurgle is just a god of extremes and as such is either happy and joyful or filled with malicious hatred at any one time

He's not a fan of the constant change that can come with a full range of emotions

[odd sparrow]

the best chaos god is malal

greyscale dragon demons lets go

[crisp heath]

Poor malal

He will be canon soon again

[cerulean wagon]

because he doesnt exist

[crisp heath]

crosses fingers

Let's be real tho

Best chaos god is the Emperor-

[coarse mirage]

Khorne doesn't have the pretence of giving a shit though. He doesn't let you know you don't matter, because you don't matter. That's what's "good" about him.

[crisp heath]

🤔

[peak hamlet]

"Once the symptoms of the Chortling Murrain fully manifest, its victim is given the title of "Sloppity Bilepiper" and a new task. Gifted with a gutpipe and marotter, these budding Heralds of Nurgle are sent to amuse Nurgle's Tallybands as they march to war.

Admittedly, the antics of the Bilepipers wholeheartedly fail to impress the gloom-ridden Plaguebearers, but Great Unclean Ones and Nurglings find the steady stream of jokes and nonsense-songs hilarious. "

[crisp heath]

What this tells me is

[vapid tiger]

Nurgle is a silly god but it doesn't mean he's not evil

[crisp heath]

Don't be a human near nurgle

[peak hamlet]

Or that one demon that thanked all the other demons after a successfull battle for their efforts

[gusty fulcrum]

Nurgle is the Chaos God most directly involved with the plights of mortals, particularly humans who suffer so acutely from a fear of death, perhaps the oldest fear of that species, or any other. While Nurgle is the god of death and decay, it is also the god of rebirth. Decay is simply one part of the cycle of life, without which no new life could grow. In the same way, Nurgle is also the god of perseverance and survival. Nurgle is not a morose purveyor of despair and gloom, but a vibrant god of life and laughter. In death, there is life. Upon the decay of the living untold numbers of bacteria, viruses, insects and other carrion-feeders thrive. All life feeds upon other life to exist, and from every plague grows new generations, stronger and more virile than those who came before. Regeneration comes from decay, just as hope springs from despair. The greatest inspiration comes in the darkest moments; in times of crisis mortals are truly tested and driven to excel. To understand what might otherwise seem contradictory or even perverse in nature, one must first comprehend that which Nurgle embodies. On the one hand, it is the Lord of Decay, whose body is wracked with disease; on the other, the god is full of unexpected energy and a desire to organise and enlighten.

[coarse mirage]

"The charnel smell of rot made him hurl in his mask" - the book I'm listening to right now where Death Guard appear

[peak hamlet]

Oh that sickness doesnt work on humans anyway, only works for plaguebearers

[crisp heath]

Ye being a human around nurgle is fucked

[vapid tiger]

But at the same time

Emperor's also evil

So when you're already living in hell there's not much stopping you from joining up with chaos

[crisp heath]

His greater demons make you rot while you're alive

That's kinds

Excessive

[peak hamlet]

Yee, typhus was allowed to dip his scythe in nurgles shit tho, wholesome 100

[crisp heath]

But I'd take it over permanent violation and torture from slaaneshi people I guess

Maybe?

Khorne is probably the fastest death you can get

[peak hamlet]

Yes

[gusty fulcrum]

For this reason Nurgle, its daemons and mortal followers usually demonstrate a disturbing joy at the pestilence that it inflicts, seeing the plagues as gifts and the cries of their victims as gratitude for the strength to overcome the obstacles of a mortal life rather than agony.

The Plague Lord is often referred to as "Grandfather Nurgle," "Father Nurgle" or "Papa Nurgle" by its followers because of this hideous paternal stance.

[peak hamlet]

Tzeentch just traps you in an impossible labyrinth

[crisp heath]

Casual existential dread

[gusty fulcrum]

With her divine powers of healing, Isha quickly regenerates from these tests, although Nurgle gleans what information is desired from the temporary effects. It is said that, secretly, she whispers the cures to those diseases to the mortals of the universe.

[crisp heath]

Reminds me of that short story in Dark imperium

Where a chaos spawn has conflicting memories of if he was a space marine chosen
Or a slave hiver nobody

And he can't tell what past he prefers

Pain peko

[peak hamlet]

Man chaos spawns are fucked up

[gusty fulcrum]

yes

[crisp heath]

Hey warhammer total war makes em look cute at least

Good boy

[peak hamlet]

Look how happy he looks :> https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/warhammer40k/images/b/be/HeraldofNurgleSloppityBilepiper.png/revision/latest/scale-to-width-down/499?cb=20180126214654

[gusty fulcrum]

For a Lord of Chaos, Nurgle's actions seem oddly harmonious -- caring even. To receive the blessings of Nurgle, all one has to do is want to live and be willing to do whatever it takes to cling to life. All else follows naturally from there. Worshipers of Khorne must push toward ever-greater levels of destruction and carnage despite the risks to themselves or even to their allies. Those who devote themselves to Tzeentch must deny their lot in life and seek to change everything, never appreciating what they have. Followers of Slaanesh seek to escape reality in a blur of sensation and self-delusion. All that is required to feel the caring touch of Nurgle is to see life for what it is and to want to make the most of it. All that is needed is faith in the future provided by Nurgle.

[peak hamlet]

Have you seen the beastmen spawns?

[crisp heath]

Yup

[gusty fulcrum]

Though they rot they burn with the passion of life

[peak hamlet]

:>

[gusty fulcrum]

https://warhammer40k.fandom.com/wiki/Nurgle#Imparting_Hope_to_a_Hopeless_Existence

I like the title

for the link

Like slannesh is cool and all be nurgle feels like if you just kinda wanna be like a casual worshipper

and ya know not die

[crisp heath]

For some reason

I thought that symbol was a face

Lmao

[gusty fulcrum]

I mean to be fair using faces in teh symbol is not uncommon

[odd sparrow]

he screm

[gusty fulcrum]

Ol Nurgy at his hobbies

[crisp heath]

Lesfukingooo

Good ol papa nurgle

Nothing more wholesome than causing people to decay inside out.

[odd sparrow]

oh no he captured thanos

[gusty fulcrum]

Doggie

[crisp heath]

Dog slug

[rotund siren]

dug

[gusty fulcrum]

Slog

The Plaguefather loves to hear stories of the realms beyond his own. They inspire him to create new pestilences that are well-suited to other lands, and in the Death Beds he has countless potential storytellers. Sometimes he offers these unfortunates the chance to improve their position by spitting the worms from their mouths and sharing tales of their worlds with him. Those who amuse him sufficiently are plucked from the muck and removed to the Mansion. There they have the great honour of becoming vessels for Nurgle's newest plagues. Once they are properly infected, Grandfather Nurgle smiles, gives them one last tender, gut-churning embrace, and sends them back into the lands their stories described.

[potent swift]

Isha is way more buff than I thought

[gusty fulcrum]

lol

[visual pumice]

[gusty fulcrum]

Funy doge

[open marsh]

[gusty fulcrum]

Why Grandfather Nurgle intervened is unclear, although some Aeldari savants believe that one of the older major Chaos Gods wanted to give the youngest amongst them a good lesson about its proper place in the order of things. What is known is that Nurgle's daemonic forces proved victorious and the Plague God took the Aeldari goddess back to its domain in the Realm of Chaos.

I kinda like the idea that him takin Isha was intitailly more power move

Teach the whippersnapper thier place

[open marsh]

I thought it was because she can't die from his diseases, so she is the Ultimate lab rat

[crisp heath]

That's a very probably reason, yea

[final spruce]

I though it was just the power move tbh

[open marsh]

Also. End of Godblight

||Big E dunking on Nurgle||

[gusty fulcrum]

Its proabably both honestly

[open marsh]

Also. Different subject. Noticed something odd in some of the more recent 40k artwork

The ethereals aren't affected by the Blank

[gusty fulcrum]

Well they are suppose to have an extreme will

Ever read Fireworrior?

[open marsh]

Unfortunately

Also played the game

[gusty fulcrum]

Feel like the game wouldnt be as bad as the novel

[open marsh]

Its worse. Its so much worse

[gusty fulcrum]

Really i got the impresson the didnt get into all the demon stuff in teh game

Like chaos shows up ya but do they bring up how the mc gets possed by a demon?

[open marsh]

(deleted gif because flashing lights)

[gusty fulcrum]

And how basicly its subdued in teh presence of the etheral due to its basicly calming/overwhleming sense of will and shit

[peak hamlet]

That artwork isnt even that recent, it depict the assassination of aun va

Basically the bodyguards tried to stop him while aun va fled, he killed then and then he chased down aun va and took him out as well

[gusty fulcrum]

I feel like i vaguely remmeebr the story

Wasnt it not until the end when aun va felt utter horror or something?

[open marsh]

I imagine it played out like the "Boss" fight in Halo 2. Where Chief jumps on the prophets chair and beats him to death

[gusty fulcrum]

Naw i think it uses a psych out grenade

[open marsh]

The Ethereals are just Tau Prophets.

[peak hamlet]

"When Aun'Va's hover drone malfunctioned, damaged from flight or battle, Aun'Va left it, moving as quickly as his ancient limbs allowed. His flight was for naught, as the Culexus Assassin finally caught its prey. The end of the ethereal supreme was neither swift nor merciful."

[odd sparrow]

tbh the fact that tau are meant to be seriously effected by it in the first place is weird to me

[peak hamlet]

"[...] when the Ethereal High Council learned of the ethereal supreme's death, they covered it up."

[gusty fulcrum]

Just reading bout that now lol

[odd sparrow]

given they're meant to be like, mostly psychically inert

[odd sparrow]

,, tbh most of the fluff surrounding aun'va is kinda moronic now that i think about it ngl

and yes i am including the goddamn jojo bodyguards

[open marsh]

Tau still have souls

[gusty fulcrum]

Slipping into and out of reality, the Culexus was a blur to the T'au and their myriad sensors. He passed undetected, save only for an unsettling feeling that washed out in bow waves before his sinister presence.

Fear ran before him, causing all nearby to shudder, and slowing or even freezing T'au AI functions. The shifting spectre of inhumanity finally neared his target, blasting Fire Warriors, T'au guards and Gun Drones apart with negative psychic streams of his Animus Speculum, or tore them apart at close range.

[open marsh]

But a Tau soul compared to a human soul is like a human soul compared to an Eldar soul

[gusty fulcrum]

APperently it can even effect tau AI?

[odd sparrow]

Tho this is sorta part of the wider issue of like, somehow the tau still dont know shit about psychic nonsense despite having been exposed to it for an extended period thing

[peak hamlet]

https://www.games-workshop.com/resources/catalog/product/920x950/99810113013_AunvaMasterofUndyingNEW02.jpg

Buff tau

[open marsh]

[rotund siren]

the Tau have had enough with these "Tau can't melee" jokes, it seems

got buff to beat up the haters

[peak hamlet]

Didnt tau even face demons at some point? They should have noticed that something about reality is fishy

[gusty fulcrum]

Ya but i wouldnt be surprised if it was still liek a buff human versus a buff chimp

[open marsh]

They are sort of like what the Imperium was like during the Great Crusade. Tho, like the Imperium they are learning

I think the Tau call warp fuckery "Imperial Mind Science"

[peak hamlet]

Yeah lmao

[odd sparrow]

it's really silly

[odd sparrow]

yep, plus they have multiple psychic races in their empire

who have been there for centuries lol

[open marsh]

Eh. Not really? Again, they are kind of going through the same steps humans did during our early expansion into the galaxy

[peak hamlet]

I mean nice conversion but.. yuck https://golden-demon.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/40k_open_day_gd_cat06_en152_02.jpg

[odd sparrow]

hm i wonder what this strange imperial human is doing

we surely haven't even the remotest idea of what this is

[peak hamlet]

God i start to think they arent as smart as gw tries to make them

[gusty fulcrum]

They are largely unaware of the perils of the Immaterium and for this reason the T'au have conducted research into the Warp on Medusa V, however, the conclusion was reached that further research was unfeasible, and that "the Warp is no place for the Greater Good and is best left to those foolhardy races who cannot pull back from that terrible realm."

[odd sparrow]

the simple answer is that tau are written by GW

[open marsh]

Even in 40k, there are veterans of the Great Crusade (like Fabius Bile) who dont consider the warp manipulation anything but another form of science

[visual pumice]

What’s with the face haha

[odd sparrow]

and GW hasn't a single fucking clue of what to do with the tau lol

[peak hamlet]

Ikr?

It haunts my dreams

[open marsh]

looks like shitty star wars CGI

[odd sparrow]

ye it makes sense with like, the tau are meant to be the sci fi race

as opposed to the space fantasy stuff almost every other faction draws from

More science less magic™️

[open marsh]

The Tau dont really have a concept of "magic". So they just see it as a form of science that they have yet to figure out

Farsight figured it out, to a degree, tho

And learned that the Ethereals know what it is and are keeping the secret from the wider Empire

Just like Big E did during the Great Crusade

[gusty fulcrum]

the Warp is no place for the Greater Good and is best left to those foolhardy races who cannot pull back from that terrible realm."

[odd sparrow]

I do question the logistics of the whole aun'va ded thing

like,, for how long has the vocaloid aun'va been a thing

tau have short ass lifespans

[gusty fulcrum]

Who knows?

[odd sparrow]

he was already meant to be extremely old

our glorious 150 year old leader, in the flesh

[open marsh]

The empire is probably told he is just super special

[odd sparrow]

™️

[gusty fulcrum]

Well tey keep alotta their important leader types "ALive" as ai rplicas basicly

or keep their memories on hardrive

[prime kernel]

Hello

what i miss ?

[open marsh]

If Aun'Va is just an AI. thus the real one is a corpse. Does that make him the Corpse-Emperor?

[gusty fulcrum]

Its actaully part of the reason Farsight said fucki this shit im out

cuz they sucked the brain outta his sensei

[open marsh]

In b4 Farsight is just Tau Horus and he doesnt know it yet

[gaunt vector]

oh please I would love that

chaos tau

vs normal tau

[open marsh]

Eh. Farsight is distinctly anti-Chaos

[gusty fulcrum]

Cept the blade he wields is necrontyr

[gaunt vector]

with every other specise dropping by to say "told u so"

[odd sparrow]

god pls no tau civil war

[open marsh]

Its not clear what his weapon is. I think its just one of the many many MANY unnamed lost xenos species

[odd sparrow]

it would be so dumb

[gaunt vector]

please yes

[gusty fulcrum]

Ive seen some people put forewared the theory that the tau are eitehr an offshoot or were made by teh necrons

[open marsh]

There already is

[odd sparrow]

no there isn't??

[gaunt vector]

tell more pls

[odd sparrow]

all the vaguely tau vs tau conflict they've attempted has been dumb

and by that i mean the 4th sphere expansion cus fuck that fluff

[open marsh]

Farsight vs Main Empire vs 4th Sphere Expansion

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2020/02/03/psychic-awakening-in-harmony-restored/

[odd sparrow]

cease

[open marsh]

^ 4th Sphere Expansion fuckery

[peak hamlet]

Anybody knows who made this artwork? https://i.imgur.com/myjbHM4_d.jpg

[odd sparrow]

an ant

[peak hamlet]

Ffs

Embed fail

Its from the space hulk box game

[open marsh]

@gaunt vector

[gaunt vector]

tau fails are nice

I find them really annoying

so seeing something blow up in their faces is nice

[barren tapir]

Tau call "imperial mind science" the faith powers, not the psychic stuff, although faith is still a psychic thing

[open marsh]

I dont think the Tau know the difference

[barren tapir]

No, they don't, like they ignore a lot of stuff

[gusty fulcrum]

I guess in some of the newer stuff they now see space marines as just weapons and not even actaul people

[barren tapir]

They met nurgle just after the great rift, they didn't met him before

[open marsh]

No wait, they do just refer to all psychic powers as "Mind Science"

They called it that when they saw White Scar Stormseers firing off warp fuckery

[barren tapir]

Yes, they see the SM as weapons

[gusty fulcrum]

So they arnt like deemed kill on sight but i think they imply they dont negotiate quite like the used to with them either

[gaunt vector]

do they realise that SM are modded humans or do they think it is just a human in a warsuit

[barren tapir]

The best thing is to see tau break under the realization that there is something that cannot be described... The warp

[gusty fulcrum]

Naw its due to their nature from trainign and modification tehy dont see thatem as people anymore

[gaunt vector]

lmao

[gusty fulcrum]

to the tau their people turned into a weapon

made less

[barren tapir]

SM are primary target for tau, not only because they are dangerous, but also because the death of SM can break their allies will

Tau don't really know that SM are genetically modified humans

They think that are more super speciemens

[gusty fulcrum]

Well i gues part of the reason teh came to the conclusionw as dissections

Basicly they say what the imperium wont about how far removed a sace marine is froma normal human

[barren tapir]

In the end tau still try to explain everything using their experiences, which make sense

[odd sparrow]

i see we are stroking eachothers tau hateboners

[gusty fulcrum]

I like how they though imperial titans couldnt exist

and they were just propaganda

[barren tapir]

Nah, just stating facts

Like how tau were kinda amused and surprised when a gue'vesa explained to them the rites to maintain a lasgun... They were "WTH is this crap"

[open marsh]

I like the Tau :<

[gusty fulcrum]

They reasoned they would just be to physically big to susatin that size and 2 no racce would waste so many resources toa ctually build one

they were wrong

[open marsh]

The Tau are what got me into 40k

:<

[gaunt vector]

as oposed to the usual stroking of SM hateboners

[open marsh]

I only have an Eldar hate boner.

[barren tapir]

The only thing i hate about tau is their fans that just scream "they are the good guys", while it is clear that the tau aren't good guys

[gaunt vector]

I only hate the Tau

[open marsh]

Yeah thats dumb. There are no good guys. The Tau are "good guys".....if you are a Tau.

[gaunt vector]

but I'm not going to take that out on ppl who play them

I'm just going to laugh when they fail in lore

[barren tapir]

Like when they faced the death guard?

Damn, the tau got a taste of what the galaxy has to offer

[gaunt vector]

yeah buddy!

[gusty fulcrum]

Its their arrogance of feeling like the hot new shit in the galactic stage that makes their fails funny

[barren tapir]

Like, the death guard wasn't even interested in them, and yet they still didn't managed to stop the CSM

Or how their tactics work only when there is room to retreat... Yeah, good luck when you cannot run

[open marsh]

The thing is. Thats just memes now. The Tau are very aware they are a small fish in a massive shark tank. So their policy has changed and they are now trying to be sneaki beekis and only annex worlds they hope the Imperium wont notice

[gusty fulcrum]

Only their leaders really

[vapid tiger]

Tbf it's better to live amongst the tau than in the average imperial hive

But the tau would still be blatant antagonists in any other science fiction setting due to their expansionism alone, not to mention the stuff underneath the hood

[barren tapir]

Still their success must be recognised too, like when they did defeated a small splinter hive fleet, or killed off an ork waaagh

[open marsh]

Their leaders are more aware than anyone else. who do you think sets the policies

[gusty fulcrum]

I just said ya only their leaders know this but hide it from teh general populace

All news is good news in the lands of the greater good

[vapid tiger]

i mean phil kelly also fucked tau lore but that's a different topic

[barren tapir]

It depend from imperial world to imperial world, elysians live decent lives, necromundan don't

[open marsh]

Oh I thought you meant their leaders were the arrogant ones

[vapid tiger]

I mean

Do I have to grab the statistic again

[barren tapir]

I'm really interested to know what happened to the 4th sphere survivors that got sent back the tau empire core

[barren tapir]

Yes, please, i need a good laugh

[gusty fulcrum]

Noooooo but do the orwellian, north korean dictator thing that the only news allowed is good news

[open marsh]

But yeah. The Tau are cool. And they have a place in the game. They attract people who are more comfortable with the more...usual scifi aesthetics and sensibilities. Until they acclimate better to 40k

[barren tapir]

Indeed

[vapid tiger]

"The Imperium's population is so vast as to be unimaginable in scale. A high percentage of this uncountable number is concentrated in enormous urban sectors. These cities grow so large that their borders overlap other metropolises, sprawling until there is no more space in which to expand save upwards or downwards. The alrgest of these conglomerations are known as hive cities, layered constructions of plasteel and rockrete stacked endlessly upon each other." - Urban Conquest, pg 8

"It is estimated by the Estate Imperium that over eighty-five per cent of the million worlds under Imperial control have at least one hive city cluster. Planets whose surfaces are primarily covered with such structures are classified as hive worlds, and they are estimated to comprise between ten to twenty-five percent of the total." - Urban Conquest, pg 9

[gusty fulcrum]

I wish i could remmeebr this full quote where a wife is asking a tau emissary what happened to her husband

[open marsh]

That just sounds like the Imperium to me

[gusty fulcrum]

And he spins it to something liek dont question where he is ask more how his absnece benefits us

[gusty fulcrum]

Well thats the joke about the tau they are becoming something liek the imperium without really relizing it

[open marsh]

The greater joke is that they always were

[crisp heath]

kek

[gusty fulcrum]

Just with a more communist party vibe

[crisp heath]

tbf, for the Imperium, it kinda needs it

for the Tau tho, I dunno. Maybe?

[barren tapir]

Oh, so they changed the percentage of hive world i read wrongly, still they contradict what other world category say... Interesting... From which year is urban combat?

[crisp heath]

We don't get enough lore about their inner workings

[open marsh]

Not really. That meme is also stupid AF. They are a caste system. Communism is, at its core, meant to be anti-caste systems

[crisp heath]

yea

Which means that the Tau aren't based

🚮

[gusty fulcrum]

No like how they sell their shit is like old eastern chinese cummist party propaganda type stuff

[crisp heath]

If anything, they're just closet weeaboos

without the whole samurai sword

[open marsh]

They have those

[vapid tiger]

2019

[rotund siren]

You mean Propaganda? The thing every single country since the dawn of time has done?

[crisp heath]

Ye but they don't use it.

Only Commander Farsight does smh

[gusty fulcrum]

I know they are system caste and ya maybe cummism is wrong its proabbaly closer to what they have in north korea

[vapid tiger]

And then there's the mathhammer behind hives which is frankly insane and you realize that the vast majority of imperial citizens are living in hives

[barren tapir]

Quite recent, and yet so full of contraddictions... Need to find more info, thanks to point this out

[gusty fulcrum]

YOur not getting what im saying

[crisp heath]

it makes sense

it's just that uhh

[barren tapir]

What make sense?

[crisp heath]

whatcha call it

the hive worlds stuff

[gusty fulcrum]

Liek id imagine watching a tau propaganda broadcast would be more like an old chinses or korean propaganda video versus one from liek say amerca

[crisp heath]

It's just that the greater "picture" doesn't really account for the logistics properly since most writers kinda

hand wave how exactly hive worlds survive

if you get what i mean

[barren tapir]

Oh, never said that hive worlds are great worlds to live on, they are just around 15% of all imperial worlds, what is not really right is the fact that 85% of imperial worlds have an hive city on them

[open marsh]

The U.S. is one of the most propagandized countries on the planet. How to you think we consistently vote against our own interests. Like making it impossible to remove bad faith actors as leaders, who consisntly vote against allowing us basic human rights that are guarenteed in other nations

[gusty fulcrum]

Im saying the style

[barren tapir]

Such percentage number openly contradict all most of the world categories

[odd sparrow]

SM deserve it tho

[crisp heath]

Like I said
Hand wavey sci fi stuff lol

[gaunt vector]

everyone in 40k deserves to be hated

[open marsh]

Except the Minotaurs. Those guys are based AF

[gaunt vector]

they are all warcriminals

[open marsh]

[crisp heath]

The idea behind Hive Worlds make sense if they're the majority of population centers

[odd sparrow]

The SM stans can start complaining about it when they stop getting all the attention from GW

[barren tapir]

They attacked some SoS, they deserve extermination!!

[crisp heath]

but saying that 85% of imperial territory is hive worlds seems pushing it

[gusty fulcrum]

Ever watch a kim jung or whatever video where hes like overseeing food production or whatever?

[odd sparrow]

Also once the imperium stans stop being conservatives

[open marsh]

To be fair. the SoS went off the rails and disobeyed orders

[gaunt vector]

can u stop complaining even when that happens?

[odd sparrow]

There's a remote chance

[barren tapir]

No, they don't say that, they say that over 85% of imperial worlds have an hive city... Which is wrong

[odd sparrow]

But don't count on it SM still boring

[gaunt vector]

to you

[open marsh]

Pain and Piety = no SMs

Whatever that 8e set with Necrons vs Mechanicus had no SMs

[odd sparrow]

And my opinion is objectively correct

[barren tapir]

How so? I never heard this

[odd sparrow]

🍞

[crisp heath]

how is that in particular wrong 🤔

if anything that just seems like old canon that's not properly expanded upon

[gaunt vector]

this argument between us isn't going to go anywhere is it?

we just disagree

[open marsh]

They were told not to interfere. They did anyway because they suspected (incorrectly) the intel was wrong. Plus one of the SoS's had rage boner.

[barren tapir]

Because civilisation world are like our terra, feral worlds don't have cities etc etc

[crisp heath]

ye but there's billions of worlds

[barren tapir]

We aren't talking numbers, we are talking percentage

[crisp heath]

plus, the key word is
Estimate