#40k-lore-chat

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vapid tiger
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Is it safe to talk in here now

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Is he gone

cloud kindle
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i mean i dont think you really need to lol

storm jungle
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Hes slain

vapid tiger
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Is it over

obtuse vault
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Also the dude trying to get me banned

cold mango
obtuse vault
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LMAO

visual pumice
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he's been destroyed, mind, body and soul

vapid tiger
shell pebble
cloud kindle
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just post a message in mod chat saying banned a fuckwit

shell pebble
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The fuck?

obtuse vault
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Twitter warrior? lmfaooo

shell pebble
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Ahhhh

barren tapir
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I bet he is, i cannot see his messagges anymore

obtuse vault
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Right here

shell pebble
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Ah yeah him

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Now it makes sense

obtuse vault
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Didn't like me calling out the blatant boomer conspiracy

weak fern
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I things i got malediction, everytime i go here, Cringe came too...

vapid tiger
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"Subscribe to arch, <something racist>"

Famous last words of Johnny Rico

lunar horizon
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No i just dont like you

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Your annoying

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It has nothing to do with johnny

visual pumice
lunar horizon
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Who was a fucking psycho

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Your just cringe af

shell pebble
cloud kindle
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idk something about god emperor hating said race here was the final thing he said

obtuse vault
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JDJSHDJS

storm jungle
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Anyway it was interesting seeing another imperial stan in his natural habitat. Now if you excuse me i need to go back making dinner for my mom

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🚪 🏃‍♀️

weak fern
visual pumice
obtuse vault
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bHAHHDHD

lunar horizon
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He was scared of trains?

vapid tiger
visual pumice
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trans

cloud kindle
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trains are powerful

visual pumice
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read

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simpleton

shell pebble
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Trains are powerful beings

lunar horizon
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Trainsphobic

cold mango
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Reminder that GW made a PSA that just because everyone in warhammer is terrible doesn't give you an excuse to be one as well.

obtuse vault
cloud kindle
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BuT mY WhItE pOwEr FaNtAsY

lunar horizon
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Thats a bit racist, i dont think he once mentioned anything about bein white :l

cloud kindle
obtuse vault
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THIS DUDE

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JDJANDND

shell pebble
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This was funny

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I enjoyed this

lunar horizon
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I didnt

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I woke up to this and now im just

vapid tiger
cloud kindle
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^

lunar horizon
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How so

vapid tiger
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gigantic dogwhistle

final spruce
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Did I missed another case again ?

cloud kindle
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ye

weak fern
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And for men who want to became female è_é

obtuse vault
lunar horizon
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You can be racist and not white

weak fern
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Oh yes trans....

final spruce
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pm ofc

obtuse vault
cloud kindle
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if it looks like a duck and quacks like a duck

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9/10 times its a duck

cerulean wagon
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Ye i poked some of the mods with screenshots just incase

final spruce
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I'm glad I caught that early tho

vapid tiger
# lunar horizon How so

he literally went "emperor hates blacks" and started talking about "alternative views" or whatever which is usually an alt-right way of sugarcoating "i have a black sun flag in in my room"

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Also what Mullokad says

final spruce
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Funny Final Fantasy Dante did the ban from what I see

lunar horizon
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I mean theres alt right

vapid tiger
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Having been in that hole myself a long time ago I know how to identify them

lunar horizon
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And then theres racist

shell pebble
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Tbf it's possible he wasnt white but it doesn't matter

vapid tiger
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They're the same thing.

lunar horizon
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Not really? Not all alt rights are racist

vapid tiger
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not taking this bait

lunar horizon
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Tbf im not too sure what alt right is at this point

cloud kindle
lunar horizon
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Seems like its just a term people throw out when they disagree with you from how ive seen it used

vapid tiger
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It's pretty specific

cloud kindle
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This entire channel must be purged

vapid tiger
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Anyway talk about lore instead

cloud kindle
lunar horizon
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As long as your not one of them “if your right at all your racist” people

final spruce
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I mean just at the beginning, he had the audacity to say 40k was for patriotic people that lean on the right

cloud kindle
obtuse vault
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It's been fun y'all

barren tapir
# cloud kindle

Amazing how the hood go in such a place that seems to be angry at the end

lunar horizon
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Space marines and the imperium do appeal to conservatives usually

final spruce
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I mean, its like the Joker

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It's a big ass parody

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And if you support it, you didn't understand the message

lunar horizon
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I just think their cool

final spruce
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They cool yes

lunar horizon
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Im right wing but the imperium are literally space nazis

cloud kindle
lunar horizon
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So Im gud bro, ill pass

cloud kindle
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when will you yanks realize that shit dont matter

lunar horizon
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Dont even get me started on the fucking bootlicking taus

storm jungle
lunar horizon
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Theres only two kinds of people i hate in this world

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Easily offended people and tau fans

storm jungle
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Imperial fans are even worse from what ive seen here

peak hamlet
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Tau are fine yo

storm jungle
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but like i said 100000 messages ago every 40k faction has its toxic fanboys

weak fern
storm jungle
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Its why i find hating a faction weird

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I dont like the mechanicus but im not gonna trash on them or their cool gimp piloted chickenwalkers

lunar horizon
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I dont even hate the tau for their fans their just stupid

cloud kindle
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if you shit on the chickenwalkers

lunar horizon
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Literally as a concept they are the dumbest race

cloud kindle
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i will shit on you

weak fern
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Leave me pimp my Chickenwalker !

cloud kindle
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they are adorable

peak hamlet
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They are kinda the only race that makes sense

storm jungle
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Yeah which is the joke too

peak hamlet
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And they wonder why like every other race is so melee focused

lunar horizon
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Tau are the one 40k race that genuinely deserves its imperium genocide

peak hamlet
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Which is fucking hillarious

final spruce
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Huh, i read the screen caps, not the worst I've seen

lunar horizon
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I hate the tau bro

cloud kindle
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cause chainswords and thunderhammers are fucking rad dude

barren tapir
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We have seen worse here i think

weak fern
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I like Tau but a have a fascinating for Eldars... idk why

lunar horizon
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We can be racist to the tau here right

storm jungle
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@peak hamlet They're pretty much what we are right now as a military society too

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drone spam

visual pumice
barren tapir
cloud kindle
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^

lunar horizon
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Good

barren tapir
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And keep it to a minimum

lunar horizon
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Deadass hate the tau

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Fuck em

weak fern
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True

storm jungle
visual pumice
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yup

cloud kindle
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look

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big e gotta eat somehow

visual pumice
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HES A CORPSE

vapid tiger
visual pumice
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HOW

lunar horizon
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The emperor isnt a corpse

cloud kindle
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dont question it

lunar horizon
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Hes barely kept alive

cloud kindle
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he just do

storm jungle
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He is a corpse

final spruce
vapid tiger
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he is literally a skeleton

lunar horizon
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Did he die finally in the lore?

shell pebble
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No

lunar horizon
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I thought they kept him barely alive for millenia

cloud kindle
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physically he is a corpse but he is still active

barren tapir
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Corpse as dead body not as dead

final spruce
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In short his body can't move but his soul is attached to it

shell pebble
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He had a Deus Ex Machina in a recent novella with Ultra Marines

weak fern
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@barren tapir how French translate its destroyed your brain ?

storm jungle
lunar horizon
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Dont people say the ending of 40k is gonna be the emperor just dying?

cloud kindle
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and making his moves now that girlyman has returned

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well if big e goes terra goes with him

barren tapir
cloud kindle
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throne is a doomsday device rigged to blow

final spruce
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Him dying would condemn Terra but likely create another Chaos god

weak fern
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XD

final spruce
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As Big E ascending

weak fern
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I'm sorry

barren tapir
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Nah, it is fine

storm jungle
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Yeah Big E resurrecting is just being saved if 40k ever gets an End Times treatment

cloud kindle
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my headcanon is if he dies he will be reborn as the chaos god of order

barren tapir
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I just need to learn some more words i think

lunar horizon
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So what if im a femboy?

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I got a gorilla grip bussy

vapid tiger
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I'm pretty sure guilliman outright states that he's afraid of what the emperor will become if he ascends or otherwise gets up off the throne somehow

lunar horizon
shell pebble
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Hot but I don't think we asked

cloud kindle
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since 10k years of worship all that power gotta go somewhere

final spruce
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Gulliman said it himself : I don't see anything human anymore in my father, no façade, only overwhelming pure power

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Dude has the headache of his life just conversing with Big E

vapid tiger
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i like the 50k fanfic's version of that where his daemons are featureless golden statues and he goes around turning planets into featureless golden worlds

perfect order at the expense of everything

final spruce
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And keep in mind he was in stasis for 10k years

lunar horizon
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so there’s one theory i read

peak hamlet
cloud kindle
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i imagine the throne has stripped away his humanity

lunar horizon
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That the emperor IS the literal embodiment of chaos

crisp heath
# storm jungle **like me literally posting slaves being herded into the astronomicon for consum...

One thing I never understand with these arguments is that the highlights of why the Imperium is bad should be on actual bad things they do. Bringing up an example of this is not in my mind, a "bad thing" the only other alternative to what you're showing is dethroning the Emperor,.letting him die, and reincarnate which would take, who knows how long and cut off any safe travel for all Imperium ships within Imperium space wouldn't it?

final spruce
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Not really, Chaos existed way before he did

cloud kindle
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cypher did make it to terra

final spruce
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You can thank the Ctans for that one

cloud kindle
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but was stopped and denied by girlyman before he could get into the throne room

peak hamlet
cloud kindle
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nothing

peak hamlet
cloud kindle
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biggest cockblock

final spruce
peak hamlet
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They did him dirty :(

final spruce
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It would create another Cicatrix Maledictum

peak hamlet
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Poor cypher boi

crisp heath
# cloud kindle i imagine the throne has stripped away his humanity

Clearly not, there is a scene in one of the recent novels where he implies he might redeem Mortarion, I think the Emperor tells people what the need to hear based on whatever his stupid plan is, the actual answer is more likely the Emperor is whatever the author at the time wants him to be sadly.

vapid tiger
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I mean thematically it's still supposed to show off how cruel the Imperium is

final spruce
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With its eye of terror being Terra

cloud kindle
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he was arrested by custodes but cypher escaped of course a couple of hours later

lunar horizon
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How big do you think a space marines penis is

vapid tiger
final spruce
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I think somebody already did the math

weak fern
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'-'

final spruce
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Even for primarchs

lunar horizon
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I must see this

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For un

weak fern
lunar horizon
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Research

vapid tiger
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The Emperor's Gift has someone seeing a Grey Knight shower and commenting that he basically has a horse cock

cloud kindle
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maybe mortarion

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but nurgle has his soul

crisp heath
lunar horizon
shell pebble
cloud kindle
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sterile

vapid tiger
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They don't have libido but they do have big penises

weak fern
lunar horizon
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Wait till they see this bussy

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Theyll have some libido then

cloud kindle
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big e didnt want them to breed to create a ruling class of humanity

lunar horizon
barren tapir
vapid tiger
crisp heath
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I think one of the big problems is that GW has torn itself between making the Imperium competent/good guys/sane in the insanity of their actions, and then a parody of real life bad things at other times. They should have stuck to one idea or the other

vapid tiger
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They should've stuck with the original idea

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"It's a parody of bad shit"

weak fern
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Iron warrior do some....disturbing things with womans

cloud kindle
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we do not speak his name here

crisp heath
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Like Exterminatus should always be a bad thing but there are many times where you'd be delusional not to suggest it was justified

vapid tiger
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Because that's what's most cohesive and fits what most people expect from 40k

It's fucking hilarious

lunar horizon
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Ok lets slow down for a momebt

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Theres no fucking peaceful race in 40k other than tau

barren tapir
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Tau aren't peaceful

weak fern
cloud kindle
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nah

lunar horizon
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So why is genocide considered bad for the imperium

cloud kindle
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technomonkeys

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they pretty chill

final spruce
lunar horizon
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Bro

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The orks are literal

vapid tiger
lunar horizon
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Death

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As a concept

storm jungle
barren tapir
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War/fight as concept

cloud kindle
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nah orks are pretty happy

barren tapir
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Death is more necron thing

lunar horizon
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If the orks were real id want them genocided too

storm jungle
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OR human civilizations that wont join them

lunar horizon
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And im a huge ork fan

final spruce
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Orks are a rampant bioweapon that went haywire

weak fern
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I like ork they are fun

final spruce
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I'm talking Tau, Eldar, the Interex etc

cloud kindle
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fucking old ones didnt install an off switch

crisp heath
# lunar horizon So why is genocide considered bad for the imperium

I mean if you want the real life answer it is bad because wiping out groups of being that aren't "inherently evil/corrupted by chaos" is cruel, limits their capacity to grow alongside humanity, and limits what we could gain from their culture as well, let alone the idea that things that are inherently nuteral/good should have a right to exist as long as they don't threaten innocents. Within the realm of 40k though, it's not really given how many shitty aliens the imperium comes across

weak fern
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Interex ?

cloud kindle
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interex was human

lunar horizon
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Lowkey the concept of the marines just

weak fern
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Oh ok

vapid tiger
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One

There's a precedent established for xenos and whatnot who are genuinely not incredibly hostile, look at the tau empire being made up of species working together, humans included

Also the interex and diasporex

Also human civilizations who just want to be left alone being conquered and usually some genocide accompanying that

final spruce
dim totem
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Heresy but I kinda like what star trek did with their aliens, theres two dozen different ones walking aruond on screen at all times but in 40k theres like... maybe ten in total

cloud kindle
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and since interex was mentioned

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FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK

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EREEEEEEEBUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUS

crisp heath
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Still the Imperium absolutely abuses/kills innocent/good aliens so I don't want to look like I am apologizing for that

lunar horizon
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The idea of the marines Glassing a planet full of cute peaceful alien creatures makes me laugh im ngl

storm jungle
lunar horizon
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That just sounds like itd be funny

dim totem
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i mean tot say star wars actually

storm jungle
dim totem
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but im tired

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star trek does it to but to a lesser degree

cloud kindle
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yeah but imperator titan goes bwaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah dilara

lunar horizon
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Also whoever asked earlier

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I prefer marines

weak fern
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Okay

lunar horizon
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I think the sororitas is lame af

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Personally

cloud kindle
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sob are rad

vapid tiger
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Two

The culture of hatred promoted by the imperium isn't at all productive

A good example is a story of the crew of a vessel coming to a planet to get supplies and have some brief shore leave, but for whatever reason the crew was grey-skinned due to originating from a world where totally genetically stable humans have grey skin, which the imperial authorities tolerated there

However the people on the world they stopped at saw them and basically went "muties"

A massive lynch mob led by priests rose up and the entire crew of thousands was lynched

crisp heath
cloud kindle
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literally using the power of faith

weak fern
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I like they, i love there soaks 🥺 😳

lunar horizon
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Im also a huge ork fan

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So

weak fern
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Sororitas feets pics.

storm jungle
lunar horizon
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Ill get you sororitas feet pics

weak fern
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🫂

lunar horizon
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If you can get me astartes dick pics

weak fern
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I got

cloud kindle
weak fern
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XD

barren tapir
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Cursed dealing here

weak fern
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Best pic

storm jungle
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Yeah kill them both

weak fern
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No please....

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Dont kill me

lunar horizon
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Your tellin me

cloud kindle
weak fern
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I need to finish my AdMech painting

lunar horizon
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You wouldnt wanna get railed by an ultramarine?

weak fern
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🧐

crisp heath
# vapid tiger One There's a precedent established for xenos and whatnot who are genuinely not...

But again your last point isn't a good one, it doesn't matter how self sufficient one, ten, a hundred, or a thousand human worlds are doing. Chaos or hostile forces will annihilate them. One of the core themes and ideas of the Imperium and 40k universe are that the magnitude of evil in the galaxy is so great that any sacrifice needed to make humanity more cohesive and there for stronger is not too great. You're right on the other points though

lunar horizon
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They gonna make that bussy crumble with their imperial might

barren tapir
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No horny

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FFS

lunar horizon
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Nah

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Full horny

weak fern
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I cant....plasma gun cant get horny

barren tapir
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I mean, horny is kinda against the rules

weak fern
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I guess

barren tapir
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No NSFW stuff

lunar horizon
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Were not posting nsfw

cloud kindle
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but seriously though

vapid tiger
# crisp heath But again your last point isn't a good one, it doesn't matter how self sufficien...

I mean that's a core theme if you're looking at it from the Imperium's perspective

If you look at it from a macro perspective you see that "wait a minute they could do things differently and also could've done things differently in the past since the Imperium has in many ways created the situation it now finds itself in"

Chaos being so strong is partly on the Emperor's shoulders since the Horus Heresy happened period, which was a result of the Imperium existing at all

Alternatives existed

barren tapir
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Not only posting, but also going too much into horny

cloud kindle
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fuck erebus

lunar horizon
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No fun

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But ok

weak fern
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Yes

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Erebus is cringe

vapid tiger
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And that "no sacrifice is too great" veers away from the original thematic takeaways of Priestley's vision

cloud kindle
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and lorgar

weak fern
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I like Perturabo

vapid tiger
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Since that's dangerously close to real-world ideologies that the Imperium parodies

cloud kindle
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no one cared for perturabo

barren tapir
cloud kindle
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and conrad needed a hug

weak fern
barren tapir
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And for sure this channel is no place for horny

cloud kindle
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unless we are talking about fulgrim

peak hamlet
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knee to head: 565 px
upper leg: 164 px
total: about 729
space marine without armor about 210cm

210/729= 0.28807

crotch to dick location: 125px

0.28807x124=35,72068cm

AstartesDicc.jpg
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This space marine got a 35cm dick

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No need to thank me

crisp heath
# vapid tiger I mean that's a core theme if you're looking at it from the Imperium's perspecti...

Yes but human anatomy and individuality is nothing but a determinate with things at the state they are in now, and while you may be right about Priestley's vision, they have now written the Imperium into that point and being correct in it in a good many cases. It even goes down to the smallest and most individual levels like Eisenhorn sacrificing Vibben to kill Eyclone. Or bombing out worlds to deny tyranids biomass, yeah in a perfect world the Imperium could be structured better obviously and suffers from the fact it was written initially to be a parody but has clearly evolved beyond just being a parody

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Idk these discussions in a way are dumb to even have because like, 40k is written by a number of people at this point, with incohesive ideas and goals, and because GW has to sell models, none of the bad guys are going to truly "never be justified" the way they should. Or maybe even bad people do good things sometimes and I am just looking at this the wrong way who knows

cerulean wagon
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Its moved beyond obvious parody for the most part yes, but its still there just less in your face

vapid tiger
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Can't discount that the parody element is built into 40k's foundations

barren tapir
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I hope it leave that behind and get developed as independent thing tbh

vapid tiger
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The only way to get rid of it would be to scrap everything and reboot it

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But GW has certainly done a good job of muddying the waters

cerulean wagon
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In the context that its humans vs others you could say the imperium are "good" if you forget that the other races have sentience. The imperium is only "good" if you see humanity as an absolute good force, which it isnt.

vapid tiger
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The Imperium is more or less just as evil as other races when you consider their perspective, or even the perspective of humans who have somehow been isolated from the Imperium

cerulean wagon
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So honestly they arent good but they are "us" and make a good viewpoint to start from for seeing the universe

crisp heath
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Dark Eldar, Hrud, Chaos worshipping alien planets, ect

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Which is of course not to speak of Orks or Tyranids

vapid tiger
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To a random, not inherently hostile xenos species (somewhat humanoid in nature) that has had a few encounters with other species but has otherwise remained unexposed to mankind will basically come to the conclusion that mankind is just as much of a galactic plague as orks are if they happen to meet the Imperium because the Imperium is fundamentally inhuman as a regime, its humanity only emerging within individuals who are trying to basically just survive

To them, if they began to learn about the nature of the galaxy at large and its history, they wouldn't go "the eldar fucked the galaxy, that's why everything is fucked," they'd include the Imperium in that assessment

"They had a massive civil war? It led to the massive rift going down the middle of the galaxy that has demons pouring out? Huh, fuck these guys"

cerulean wagon
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Especially when you consider the imperiums weighing in on things like the interex and their extermination

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There are "bad guys" out there that the imperium does fight, but thats because the imperium fights everyone with no exceptions, even itself. I'm not saying they aren't an interesting or cool faction you can't appreciate, I'm a guard player, people just need to understand that Humans =/= good

crisp heath
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Yeah thats fair

cerulean wagon
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Basically never take the discussion as people here saying the imperium in the setting should change, that would be boring if they did because they are an interesting faction, we just want people to have a basic understanding that 40k is fucked up

crisp heath
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Yeah it's something I guess I need to keep in mind

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Typically my frustration in these discussions is people like "highlight obviously bad thing" as example they are bad, but obviously bad thing is written so that it is justifiable and if you were going to point to things that were bad you could point to like, killing good AI, technological regression, specific examples of completely unarguably innocent aliens they exterminated, ect.

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Instead it is people being thrown into the meat grinder of war, or commissars shooting deserters, ect

cerulean wagon
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Tbf the main one, extermination to ward off nids, was pointed out as bad in setting

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The inquisitor that ordered it was executed afterwards

crisp heath
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Yeah but it was a fair solution I feel like up until they had a better option

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Obviously I don't think they should or could just exterminatus every world so tyranids starve and probably they need to experiment with bio weapons of some kind to be more effective, or purely robotic ones

crisp heath
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I assume they mutate against viruses to quickly for them to be effective?

cerulean wagon
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yeah

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and because robots are illegal, and servators have biomass in them

crisp heath
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So there are no purely mechanical unmanned, or semi autonomous robots/ships the Mechanicum employs?

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Barring the off lore example like that one man of iron disguising itself

vapid tiger
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Shower thought

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Servitors are probably suspectible to disease

crisp heath
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One would assume, unless their biology was radically altered

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Do they have to be fed?

cerulean wagon
cerulean wagon
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not to say they don't exist, the admech just arent allowed to admit they exist

crisp heath
cerulean wagon
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nope

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none

final spruce
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Human brain

cerulean wagon
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the closest you get are remote turret emplacements

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but nothing self autonomous that can move

crisp heath
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Couldn't a sufficiently augmented (magos?) or something control purely mechanical drones at a distance with the level of technology the Imperium possesses or no?

final spruce
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They already do that with Skitarii

crisp heath
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Aren't Skitarii augmented humans as well?

cerulean wagon
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Yes

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Basically machines, remote controlled or pure ai, are fround upon because they cannot be trusted

grand minnow
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anyone in mechanicus are somewhat human minus the robots

peak hamlet
cerulean wagon
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the last time they were trusted the human federation collapsed

peak hamlet
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And yes still remote controlled

crisp heath
karmic gulch
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It's possible

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Just not with using the human mind

grand minnow
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I thought they used some minor ai, but they just lied about it

cerulean wagon
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yup. again tho some mechanicus sect do it anyway, but not on a large scale because they dont want to get caught

crisp heath
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I mean yeah I guess they do that with like Titans, but those typically have people linked directly into the machine

karmic gulch
#

Literally just human minds in a tin can is fine

#

But artificial in a tin can is not fine

crisp heath
#

Right but we're aiming purely robotic/non sentiment as a weapon against tyranids, and whether or not something like that could eixst/would be legal

grand minnow
#

like i assume its like microwaves or like whatever the equivilant of videogames for warhammer are fine but never full robots

crisp heath
#

not something with AI but again a drone

karmic gulch
#

They already use drones iirc

#

Servo Skulls might be drones

#

Haven't read up on em

grand minnow
#

imagine getting killed for bringing a gameboy game to them

crisp heath
#

Right but I am talking about a very large drone, like an entire warship

karmic gulch
#

That'd require a lot of effort

#

If you want it to not be AI

crisp heath
#

Right and probably wouldn't be worth the money/time/resource investment just to fight tyranids

karmic gulch
#

Dedicating that much would leave them open to alot of external and internal threats

crisp heath
#

So what would be the most successful way to destroy tyranids if they can evolve to almost any threat on the fly

karmic gulch
#

Just keep throwing bodies at it

cerulean wagon
#

the main way is to erradicate the fleet directly

#

but thats not always an easy task

barren tapir
#

The Mechanicum has used different ways to defeat nids

#

One has the upper atmosphere transformed in an hell of flames that would burn the spores that nids use to land

#

Another is to use servitors, since the biomass gained would be inferior to that used to fight

crisp heath
#

Typically in fleets there is a dedicated hivemind right? Couldn't you make some kind of mass drilling/homing missile system to destroy it, then just use acid/flame weapons to burn the remaining leaderless fleet to ash?

karmic gulch
#

The problem is getting there

crisp heath
#

I guess so and with the Mechanicus hesitant to invent, it's unlikely we'll see a real solution

#

Well I'm gonna go for a run you all have a nice day

coarse mirage
#

Tau got their drone swarms

plucky moth
#

Also fuck me shit hits the fan when I sleep

lunar horizon
#

why are you pinging me about me saying i didnt like someone earlier

#

that was like 2 hours ago my guy

plucky moth
#

Don’t care

lunar horizon
#

neither do i, which is why im curious as to why you pinged me

atomic pelican
plucky moth
lunar horizon
#

you must care on some level if you brought it back up, just sayin

#

im goin back to my no more heroes

atomic pelican
#

Weird ppl show up saying stupid shit

#

Then some other weird person shows up to defend stupid shit

plucky moth
#

I was just scrolling through everything I missed and thought it was cringe

atomic pelican
#

Eternal cycle of DT

storm jungle
#

Literally like 8 people argued against the guy

#

Then Kaelus banned him

plucky moth
#

Yea saw the screenshots lmao

storm jungle
#

yeah it was... something

#

thats all ill say on the matter lul

lunar horizon
#

thats

#

taking alot away from it

storm jungle
#

Thats literally what it was

lunar horizon
#

it wasnt that he defended the imperium that was the issue, it was saying humanity would be better irl if we did the same shit as the imperium

storm jungle
#

because wew

lunar horizon
#

mfer really said "genocide furthers society"

storm jungle
#

DKJSKDFS

lunar horizon
#

if he got banned just for defending the imperiums actions itd be kinda dumb

#

now banning someone for actively glorfying fucking genocide

storm jungle
#

I mean he was doing that too

lunar horizon
#

not that dumb

storm jungle
#

YEP

atomic pelican
#

It's always the weird lurkers who never say anything too

#

As though they are waiting for the chance to say something braindead

#

or to defend someone who's braindead

plucky moth
#

Or throwaway accounts

atomic pelican
#

That's tru

lunar horizon
#

i make my jokes but theres a difference between "hehe kill all jews" and "yes, i think a new genocide would actively improve our current political climate"

plucky moth
#

Actually both are awful

vapid tiger
#

^

coarse mirage
#

I think it’s best to not say more.

plucky moth
#

Nah I wanna see how he defends that

lunar horizon
#

how i defend what

atomic pelican
#

He was planning to

#

Saw the "typing" go blank

#

omegalul

plucky moth
lunar horizon
#

i wasnt planning on doing anything

barren tapir
#

??

#

Me?

lunar horizon
#

im playing no more heroes

atomic pelican
#

where did you even come from saar

#

no

#

not you

lunar horizon
#

if your talking about me

atomic pelican
plucky moth
lunar horizon
#

im just chillin

barren tapir
#

Ah, ok, well, people call me blank here sometime soo

lunar horizon
#

i call you cute

barren tapir
#

Eeeeerr, fine i think... Just let me add that to the list of names people use for me

lunar horizon
#

if the orks make more orks upon dying

#

how do ork invasions ever end

storm jungle
#

You burn the spores

lunar horizon
#

is that just one of those lore things people like to claim exists when it dosent?

#

ah

#

flamers

storm jungle
#

Yeah like you at least try and destroy a BIG majority of the spore creating mushrooms they leave behind

#

the planet may still face orks but they'd be in much smaller number

lunar horizon
#

but they always use bolters against orks

#

and not flamers

storm jungle
#

Nah i meant for cleanup after a battle is over

cerulean wagon
#

^

#

after action cleanup

#

burn the corpses

#

still impossible to guarantee you get all the spores tho, so even if you "beat" an invasion theres a good chance of the orks just

#

re-ocurring

#

Also Ork "breeding ground" are horrifying and require hazard ops gear and lots of flame throwers

storm jungle
#

Yeah its the grim aspect of any and all ork invasion, even if just a group of them land somewhere and you get rid of them there might be a collection of spores you miss in a cranny or something

barren tapir
#

But it can be done

storm jungle
#

give it a decade and you'll have feral orks in the jungles

shell pebble
#

How adaptable are those spores anyhow? Since they can grow in really hot areas and such

#

So would a flamer be enough?

vapid tiger
#

They prefer dark, dank areas

cerulean wagon
#

Flamer is enough

plucky moth
#

Much like discord users

vapid tiger
#

but they can work in shittier conditions

cerulean wagon
#

they are adaptable but not stupidly so

vapid tiger
#

they'll just produce less sophisticated forms of greenskin life

If the spores only end up in a place that's hot and the soil is bad, you might only end up with a few squigs and maybe a snotling here and there

#

but the snotlings might eventually cultivate an environment where the spores will begin to thrive

#

and then your grots and orks start being produced

#

but if it's somewhere dark and damp?

there won't have to be much in the way of cultivation

#

which is why they do well in jungles

lunar horizon
#

discord mods*

#

do orks have a home planet?

storm jungle
#

Nah

lunar horizon
#

or do theese dudes just kinda

#

pop up

storm jungle
#

Yep

lunar horizon
#

theres not a planet thats just

#

orks?

storm jungle
#

Thats a wide thing to explain

lunar horizon
#

that theyve taken over and callen home?

vapid tiger
#

if they have a home planet no one remembers where it is and the orks themselves wouldn't care

storm jungle
#

Yeah orks are a nomadic society

#

they sometimes settle sometimes they dont

#

they just search the stars to murder living beings

peak hamlet
#

There is orctarius but that planet got nomed by nids

vapid tiger
#

and there's plenty of planets that are just orks

#

They're the most successful species in the galaxy

storm jungle
#

Yeah as I think Abnett himself said the orks have already won and will still be around when the entire milky way explodes in the climactic battle

#

just some spores on a chunk of rock floating away to terrorize other star systems once more

#

a true happy ending

vast frigate
#

orks

#

dying from spess

#

their spores on an asteroid floating towards another supercluster: ERE WE GO

storm jungle
#

I can imagine reading that in a codex that wraps up their faction's ending tbh

vast frigate
#

Prolly yeah

#

i mean, GW wont ever ''end'' the universe of 40k

barren tapir
#

There is a planet that seems important to orks

storm jungle
#

It'll be around as long as it makes money

vast frigate
#

if anything they already have a backup

#

The Galaxy Engine

barren tapir
#

That someone even called their ancestral home

vast frigate
#

The Star Engine?

storm jungle
#

The World Engine?

vast frigate
#

Anyway its that spooky shit the necrons can use to rewind time in a dimension

#

but all dynasties have to agree

storm jungle
#

The necrons wouldnt bother tbh

vast frigate
#

Well its easy for them

#

it consumes a star

#

it resets time to the big bang

storm jungle
#

Yeah but so is going to another galaxy entirely and rule there

#

vroom

vast frigate
#

then, the necrons dip into a pocket dimension for a second

#

and harvest it again

shell pebble
#

Clearly the orks are the true protagonists and good guys of this universe xdddd

vast frigate
#

huhuhuhuhu

shell pebble
#

They got the power of friendship and everything

vast frigate
#

what friendship

#

you mean mutual krumping interest

shell pebble
#

Ah sorry, kinship for krumping

storm jungle
#

to be fair they do come to mutual understanding

#

which is according to Brutal Kunnin' uh...

#

a headbash?

vapid tiger
#

yeahHH

vast frigate
#

i want to see orks that are actaully smart again

#

give me some warband of Krorks

vapid tiger
#

you fool

vast frigate
#

a single set of Krorks just chadding about

storm jungle
atomic pelican
#

Isn't there a Kultur of orkz who are known for tactiks and such?

vast frigate
#

FUck

storm jungle
vast frigate
#

Necron, M41

#

yeah uh, the sneaky gitz

#

kommandos

atomic pelican
#

Blood axes

storm jungle
#

Yee those

atomic pelican
#

The Blood Axes are viewed by all other Ork clans as being duplicitous, untrustworthy gits who wouldn’t know a proper scrap if it came out of the drops and bit off their backsides. The Blood Axes, for their part, couldn’t care less; they possess an instinctive grasp of battlefield strategy that – while still undeniably Orky in its application – allows them to surprise even the most seasoned enemy commanders with their manoeuvres, feints and ambushes.

vapid tiger
#

they are smart

the gestalt technology belief field is only a theory from the admech

it is entirely possible that ork technology is so advanced that human monkey brains cannot comprehend how it works and attribute it to space magic

vast frigate
#

Thats already happened

#

techpriests still wonder how a magazine filled with bolts, a barrel with no hole and a spring that only shakes back and forth shoots boolet

shell pebble
#

I want an ork klan just be ran by a boss that wants everyone to 'play nice' and not hurt each other so that they learn discipline and when they actually get into a fight, everyone loses their shit and beats everything up

#

It wouldnt work

#

But its a funny thought

vast frigate
#

That wont happen due to Orks
Krorks might

vapid tiger
#

bow before your ork overlords and their supreme intelligence

vast frigate
plucky moth
#

Ork cooking show when?

peak hamlet
#

Now

plucky moth
#

Hell yeah

gaunt vector
prime kernel
#

An old one krork @gaunt vector

gaunt vector
#

yeah

#

they are spooky

#

*were

prime kernel
#

That somehow got its hands on necron tech ?

gaunt vector
#

I think that is actually just krork stuff

#

it looks half way between eldar tech and necron

prime kernel
#

It looks fucking terifying

vast frigate
#

krorks had reality bending technology and actively used it

#

like

#

you have to imagine orks

#

but with the actual driven command structures and realistic knowledge and behavior of a militia

gaunt vector
#

oh boi

karmic gulch
#

Krorks are orcs when they get their shit together

tiny nova
#

Wtf is an orc idk what that is

median sundial
#

Krorks: Greetings Necrontyr. We are your end, and we shall enjoy every second of it.

Countless millenia later

Orks: OI TINSKULL, GET OFF ME ZOGGIN' SHIP! WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGHHH!

vast frigate
tiny nova
#

Ork>Orc , you just know that your setting is lame if you use c instead of k, look at 40k and shadowrun

storm jungle
#

Tbh thanks to warhammer I cant spell "Orc" without the K

vast frigate
#

HAH

storm jungle
#

its just a rough and mean letter

vast frigate
#

i love it

#

the letter k deserves its power

tiny nova
#

It's savage, I compare it to when I meet someone named Mathew, where's the strength at in that name? 2 Ts or bust my friend

storm jungle
#

Truly a critical decision

tiny nova
#

It's the difference between being a doormat and being a well fortified name

karmic gulch
#

The small things make a better whole

vast frigate
#

the different between a doormat and a fortified rogal daddy

karmic gulch
#

What even would rogal dorns doormat be?

#

Toughest metal in the galaxy?

storm jungle
#

bricks

vast frigate
#

BRICC

median sundial
#

BRIKK

vast frigate
#

Magnus

#

winknjs

#

twunknus

#

so hereby i pose the question

#

Nicest legion based on your ideas of the warriors?

open marsh
#

Salamanders

coarse mirage
#

Thousand Sons could’ve been such a cool loyalist chapter

storm jungle
#

✊

coarse mirage
#

Do they actually have any loyalty to Chaos?

vast frigate
#

Sort of

coarse mirage
#

Hard to be loyal to Tzeentch

vast frigate
#

Like how all the eldars souls belong to slaanesh

#

the uh

#

Rubric sort of locked their souls to tzeentch

#

its not set in stone as weve sene before but its hard for them to fix it

storm jungle
#

Yeah it largely depends

#

some are full tzeentch while some are pro-magnus

cerulean wagon
coarse mirage
#

I find it strange that Magnus in all his power can’t do anything about it

cerulean wagon
#

thats cause hes not a god

coarse mirage
#

But he can do so much else

open marsh
coarse mirage
#

I don’t get it

open marsh
#

There is a loyalist successor of the Thousand Sons

coarse mirage
#

Really though?

open marsh
#

Yes

vast frigate
#

Yeah

open marsh
#

The Blood Ravens

vast frigate
coarse mirage
#

Not really then.

open marsh
#

No they really are

vast frigate
#

Mm yes really then

#

They ARE successors.

#

so they are by genestock of the thousand sons

coarse mirage
vast frigate
#

what

coarse mirage
#

Sauce

vast frigate
#

Thats tomato soup

#

not sauce

open marsh
#

Across their lore but the biggest being the novel A Thousand Sons and the Index; Blood Ravens

primal tide
#

Tomato soup is just sauce for grilled cheeses

coarse mirage
primal tide
#

Also the image is named marinara

open marsh
# coarse mirage Which says what?

In A Thousand Sons, a psyker forsees the future of the Tsons, and sees some of them becoming the Blood Ravens

And in the Index Astartes, it says that the Blood Ravens arent from loyalists geneseed and their actions are noteably similar to the Thousand Sons

coarse mirage
storm jungle
#

Thats one victory at least

coarse mirage
#

Amusing that Azarias turned to Khorne

primal tide
#

Alternative for the blood ravens would be them being from word bearer stock as there's quite a few hints to that being a possibility

open marsh
#

That got decked hard by the Tsons connections tho

karmic gulch
#

Blood Ravens were actually confirmed to be thousand sons?

#

Damn

open marsh
primal tide
#

Meh, it's all hints and winks either way

karmic gulch
#

Atleast magnus in tts might actually reunite with his "sons" then

storm jungle
#

Did Blood Ravens specialize in psychic stuff?

open marsh
#

Yep

vast frigate
#

Theyre so psychically active that other chapter suspect it

open marsh
#

Most specifically, they specialize in seeing the future. Their heritage from the Thousand Son's Corvidae Cult

coarse mirage
#

Would explain all their relics and stuff

karmic gulch
#

Here's a question for ya lore nerds:
What has caused the imperium to disregard the edict of nikea?

open marsh
#

Practicality

coarse mirage
#

Slacking?

vast frigate
#

Not so much disregard more the requirement and anchoring for the emperor

#

They use psykers that are not required to be sacrificed because they are better off used in the field

karmic gulch
#

Librarians were banned due to the edict weren't they

final spruce
#

Blood Ravens are known for a very high number of librarians, which is why their chapter master is also the Master librarian

coarse mirage
#

But turned to Khorne

#

Which is weird

vast frigate
#

for a time after the heresy, somewhat, starcarp

open marsh
karmic gulch
#

I prefer khornate psykers over all others

vast frigate
#

theyre cool

#

they scream AND launch lightning

#

its quite pog

karmic gulch
#

Khorne doesn't hate psykers unlike what the masses believe

vast frigate
#

factual

karmic gulch
#

He hates sorcery

vast frigate
#

he hates psykers that dont fight for their power

storm jungle
vast frigate
#

You canb be a psyker but if you just abuse the warp, thats shit mate

storm jungle
#

Probably one of the dumbest parts of the Heresy to boot

vast frigate
#

i mean

#

it was needed to make the SORCERER ARMY

storm jungle
#

LIGHTNING GO!

vapid tiger
#

tbh i think they're word bearers since the 1k sons stuff mostly comes from c.s. goto and them being secret word bearers successors makes the games better

Also explains the flesh change but it does have a major issue in that word bearers basically purged any loyalists from their legion by the time of the hh

#

and gw making janus a 1k son

open marsh
vast frigate
#

as i said

#

he hates psykers that dont fight for their power

#

Many sorcerers use it as a crutch

#

His ownpsykers use it alongside

open marsh
vast frigate
#

most of them use it for gateways but hey

#

True enough yeah

storm jungle
#

Isnt the only difference being that sorcerors are chaos stuff?

karmic gulch
#

How i like to explain the difference:
Normal Psykers: Summon Daemons then stay where they are spewing lightning
Khornate Psykers: Summon Daemons then run after them into the battlefield

open marsh
storm jungle
#

so... a psyker?

open marsh
#

No

#

Psykers =/= Sorcerer

storm jungle
#

Why tho

#

They both use psychic abilities dont they

open marsh
storm jungle
#

One just harnesses them a lot more from the warp doesnt he?

open marsh
#

No

karmic gulch
#

Sorcery is tied to psykers but are not the exact same

vapid tiger
#

sorcerers seem to rely more on words of power and whatnot

storm jungle
#

Yeah i just thought it was more chaos related abilities that went with it

open marsh
#

Sorcerers get their abilities by making deals with beings of the warp

#

Again...see: Luther

vast frigate
#

see sorcerers as warlocks of the 40k verse

open marsh
#

Luther was never a psyker, but he became a powerful Sorcerer

vast frigate
#

psykers are wizards, naturally attuned

#

sorcerers are warlocks, they gain by dealings

vapid tiger
#

basically not all sorcerers are chaos psykers but all chaos psykers will eventually become sorcerers

open marsh
#

Unless they are a Khornite psyker

vapid tiger
#

unless they're khornites yes

storm jungle
#

So sorcerors are just psykers that just get more beefed up by the Warp?

primal tide
#

Khorne dumb

open marsh
storm jungle
#

They are psykers tho

open marsh
#

They arent

storm jungle
#

almost all their rule books says that they are

open marsh
#

They are commonly psykers

#

But they arent exclusively psykers

vapid tiger
#

in which case they just

i think they just shut themselves off from the warp and become better conduits for khorne daemon summonings?

primal tide
#

Khorne: I like simple straightforward slaughter, no trickery
Also Khorne: loophole so I can still have magic users on my side

vast frigate
#

They say that

#

and then they say

open marsh
#

@storm jungleYou can be a Sorcerer and not a psyker. Having no more psykic potential than a normal human, yet can become an extremely powerful sorcerer

vast frigate
#

Khorne Cares not from whence it came,

primal tide
#

Sorcerer conjures a magic fountain of blood
confused Khorne noises

vapid tiger
#

sorcerers are like wizards from a lot of settings, who rely on words of power and whatnot, it's a learned art. Basically learning the dark arts

It's just that most chaos psykers will begin dabbling in that somewhere down the line and the most powerful chaos sorcerers are almost always psykers

#

Often mixing that sorcery with psychic powers

cunning lantern
#

It perhaps depends. Psyker would be more into liking to fry their enemies how Khorne likes: with rage and in front of the enemy. Sorcerer, who knows that is not strong enough and act cowardice because of it will displease Khorne for obvious reasons.

storm jungle
vapid tiger
#

it's very convoluted dilara

storm jungle
#

yeah i can tell lmao

vapid tiger
#

and not really touched on much

storm jungle
#

thanks for the effort tho honestly

primal tide
#

"Wait, it's all dumb lore?"
"Always was"

vapid tiger
#

it's just "hey see those chaos marine guys with magic they're sorcerers"

storm jungle
#

Yeah i mean they're just suppose to Librarians but ULTRA Evil

open marsh
#

Psyker: born with the ability to do magic stuff

Sorcerer: made deals with warp entities to use their powers to do magic stuff

vapid tiger
#

or a gun

#

or else the flesh hounds come

#

guy just hates magic

primal tide
#

What about blood magic

open marsh
#

@storm jungleThe reason I use Luther as an example is that he isnt and never was a psyker. Yet he became a powerful enough Sorcerer to nearly kill Lion el Jonson

storm jungle
#

Eh tbh ill just go with whatever. Looking at the fluff it says they're marine psykers who choose to follow chaos so beats me

#

as chapin said its just contradictions

open marsh
storm jungle
primal tide
#

When the self-defeating nature of chaos also applies to attempts to understand it's lore

storm jungle
#

lmao

open marsh
#

I dont see what is so confusing about it

storm jungle
#

That some say sorcerors are psychic and so are their powers and some say that it isnt.

#

By "some" I mean the lore but still

primal tide
#

also the fact that khorne doesnt discriminate about methods as long as the blood flows, but also, he does

open marsh
#

Its just they arent exclusively psykers. So long as you can actually contact / make a deal with a warp entity (most commonly chaos daemon) to use their power (which manifests in pretty much the same way as a psychic power), then you are a sorcerer

#

But its far harder for a normal human to contact a daemon, they have to already know some form of summoning ritual.

#

While a psyker can use their powers to contact them far more easily (if less safely)

shell pebble
#

Wait so if you're a sorcerer, you're fine so as long as you do things on your own

#

But if you're a psyker, Khorne bitch slaps you and says you're a disappointment then ends you?

#

Ive always known he hated psykers but he doesnt mind sorcerers?

vapid tiger
#

No he hates sorcery

shell pebble
#

Okay so how its always been

#

Okay I thought someone was saying he doesnt actually hate sorcerers but hates psykers

open marsh
#

You got that backwards

#

He hates sorcerers, but he is okay with psykers.

shell pebble
#

Thats very odd

#

I swore it explicitly said he hated psykers

cerulean wagon
#

he does

open marsh
#

Not really. Psykers have a natural ability to channel the powers of the warp. Its no different than using a muscle for them.

cerulean wagon
#

No demon of khorne is psychic capable

shell pebble
#

Then who would fit the criteria of an acceptable psyker? Someone that cant use his or her powers properly?

#

Like it just suddenly surges?

open marsh
#

No

#

Just any psyker who uses their ability without having to make deals with warp entities to increase their power

shell pebble
#

So he hates magic and sorcerers but is okay with psykers that dont explicitly borrow their powers from another daemon

open marsh
#

Correct

shell pebble
#

So he basically goes "I look down on you, but I can respect how you're doing this."

open marsh
#

Basically

#

He won't give a natural psyker any favors. But he is also okay with them

#

He treats them like he does anyone else

shell pebble
#

I know 40k is very contradictory, but this marks Khorne as probably the most inconsistent character in the universe IMO

#

He loathes those that kill the weak, he doesnt care where the blood comes from, now hes sort of okay with magic

cerulean wagon
#

yup

#

khorne is the least well written or consistent chaos god

#

which is saying something

shell pebble
#

True

#

Jesus that kind of pisses me off

cerulean wagon
#

yup

#

welcome to most, if not all, chaos lore

atomic pelican
#

Tbf im not sure how far you can go with angry red dudes

#

Yep

shell pebble
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Sure everyone can have a head canon and thats cool, but c'mon

cerulean wagon
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its inconsistent becuase you arent supposed to give chaos any attention they are just generic badguys

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which... sucks

shell pebble
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Tbf I guess one could argue Khorne is all of those?

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Like

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Say a Khornate force is invading a world

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Khorne would loathe those that kill the weak immediately

final spruce
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Angy red dude that hates magic, simple as

shell pebble
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But if there's no one left to kill, then go gung ho

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It doesnt matter

cerulean wagon
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IMO my best way of saying it is this

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Khorne himself doesn't care, but his various cults all have their own ideologies

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Each different cult may view bloodshed, or go about causing it differently

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So where one specific cultist might only kill the strong in duels and trials by combat, as that gets the best prizes for khorne

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another group might just slaughter an entire city with little regard for who is there just so that the blood flows

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Quantity vs quality kinda deal, and not all cults are going to see eye to eye on it

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cause its not like khorne is gonna turn up and correct them

shell pebble
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See, Id love to see that

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Because that sounds cool instead of "Muh berzerker"

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Which are also cool but I want more

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I want to see a cult dedicated to being honorable as fuck

cerulean wagon
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Well good, because welcome to the actual cult side of khorne

atomic pelican
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I know I say this like, everytime this comes up, but all the chaos factions would be way more interesting on a focus on regular mortals

cerulean wagon
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the CSM? ignore em

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its all about them human cultists and their weird rituals

storm jungle
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tbh thats fair when the CSM are literally just Decepticons

atomic pelican
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Oh my god

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You're right

cerulean wagon
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not wrong

atomic pelican
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I've never thought about it that way but absolutely

storm jungle
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LIKE ITS NOT EVEN A JOKE

cerulean wagon
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basically

storm jungle
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THEY ATTACK AND RETREAT

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also Erebus is Starscream

cerulean wagon
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CSM are there for TT stuff because they are popular now and because the HH exists

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but they are just comic villains and dont achieve anything cohesive or consistent

storm jungle
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Yeah this too, I like Chaos Marines in general but their entire job is to basically be the stormtroopers of 40k and die in droves beneath the feet of the Imperials

shell pebble
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They cant be consistent because insanity and all that

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Which is dumb

atomic pelican
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Also is it just me or do CSM like

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90% of the time only interact with the imperium

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In any meaningful way

cerulean wagon
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yes

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Cause thats their backstory

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its all they have

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Biggy G vs badabadan

storm jungle
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and its used everywhere

cerulean wagon
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I vastly prefer say

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Ciaphas cain way of handling it, or any other IG book honestly

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where most of the time the cult is just like

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some weird sex shop or library

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maybe both

storm jungle
cerulean wagon
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and it doesnt start as a cult, but some trigger point happens

shell pebble
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TFW the library is the sex shop 😳

cerulean wagon
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and its a slow and insidious growth

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it slithers its way in unobstructed because the only people who can notice it are now too far in to go back

atomic pelican
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I think it also doesn't help that the more one dimensional Chaos gods have the most representation. At least, imo, Slaanesh and Tzeentch tend to be a bit more interesting since they deal with more social aspects

cerulean wagon
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Khorne can be interesting imo, its just handled poorly

atomic pelican
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Yeah that's true

cerulean wagon
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very poorly

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focus more on the body horror side of khorne and the weird trickle in on the like, warrior lodge and instinct side

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Oh your joining this group to be a good sport? to uphold some honor?

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oh really?

storm jungle
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yeah Khorne is just there mostly because hes the classic satan dude you imagine when you think of demons

shell pebble
# cerulean wagon some weird sex shop or library

Know what would be funny? If there were multiple cults on a world and nothing happened because everyone kept killing each other or tricking each other into thinking X location was a place of worship for Y God but it was actually for Z god

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Like a library thats actually a sex shop

cerulean wagon
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Hay guess what

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thats something that happens in lore

atomic pelican
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That pretty much happens

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Yee

shell pebble
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Thats hilarious

atomic pelican
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Esp with even like

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GSC' and chaos cults

cerulean wagon
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but its not covered by the main stuff

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because the main stuff is SM

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and SM would just merc cults

atomic pelican
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One of my favorite lore pieces is

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GSCs joining the local guard/PDF to fight chaos cults/invasions

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Alongside non-brood brothers

cerulean wagon
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Like i wouldnt even be surprised if post launch DT gets an update that adds khorne or slaanesh or something as another cult swings in seeing a moment of weakness

cerulean wagon
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or uhh

atomic pelican
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Against non-siring hivefleets too

cerulean wagon
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you read the ciaphas cain books at all?

atomic pelican
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Nahh

cerulean wagon
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ah shit

atomic pelican
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U can tell me if you wanna ta git as spoilers for someone else

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I dont really mind them

cerulean wagon
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aight one sec

shell pebble
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Oh huh question about GSC actually: if brood brethren were to move off the planet where they originated to go fight off elsewhere, would they still be under control of the patriarch or no?

atomic pelican
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Yee they'd still hold allegiance to the patriarch

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Infact they'd likely try to spread the infection

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Cultists aren't like, directly controlled by the patriarch like gaunts are by the hivemind

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But they feel a influence constantly

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That's actually a big GSC strat

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Take over a planet quietly, and contribute brood brothers to the tithe

storm jungle
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Yeah i assumed even if they arent under the psychic influence the patriarch would have human agents close to him just direct his will on off-world missions and such with higher ranked cult members

atomic pelican
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Yeee

shell pebble
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Yeah that would make sense

cerulean wagon
# atomic pelican U can tell me if you wanna ta git as spoilers for someone else

So the first book is based on gravalax and the planet is split 50/50 between an imperial and Tau occupation force. ||The stealers have infested humans on both sides, but no tau yet as the actual tau have only just arrived. The GSC start a war between the 2 sides, then part way through cause confusion by having PDF from both sides work together against their own factions. The book ends with a cliffhanger kinda thing of the commissar choosing not to warn the tau ambassador that the fire warrior team that survived going into the hive were infected||

atomic pelican
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Oh that's rlly cool

cerulean wagon
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its so fucking good

atomic pelican
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I really hope we get some sort of books from a Cult POV, maybe when their next codex comes out

cerulean wagon
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It also has a part cover the fact ||kroot can taste the gene editing the infection causes, but unless they have encountered it before cannot tell what it is||

atomic pelican
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We have some short snippets bu tnothing big

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It's all cool

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Oh that's neat

cerulean wagon
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Its a real cool book series, big recommend. I feel they do a decent amount of respect to all factions despite being IG books at the core

atomic pelican
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Seems to be the case with alot of IG books tbh

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Really I think the worst offenders are space marine circlejerks and like, gav thorpe killing the faction he's writing for

cerulean wagon
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yup

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I'm excited for the next book, one of the older books hinted at caine spending some time as captive under Deldar at one point in his life, but we don't have the story covering it yet

shell pebble
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I think even SM chapters suffer a bit from lack of love at times like White Scars

odd sparrow
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kroot being useful for once

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chicken powers

shell pebble
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Who are apparently just normal and dont have anything unique to them in anyway compared to other chapters

cerulean wagon
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their gimmick is liking bikes

odd sparrow
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they're fast

storm jungle
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White Scars are a great example of a chapter I find really cool but forget it exists

potent swift
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What we need is a White Scar vs Speedfreeks Fury Road-style novel.

cerulean wagon
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wait

storm jungle
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also remove Iron Hands already

odd sparrow
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the one chapter i always get confused about is dark angels

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outside of muh fallen what even is their gimmick

cerulean wagon
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are white scars the chapter where the "can move faster than humans can see" bullshit comes from?

storm jungle
cerulean wagon
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i hope not

storm jungle
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just the fallen

cloud kindle
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commissar is like ...y'know what how bout you fuckers find out about the bullshit we put up with for a change

odd sparrow
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aaa

storm jungle
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ITS THE PLOT OF ALMOST ALL THEIR FUCKING BOOKS

shell pebble
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Dark Angels and Dark Templars? And Deathwatch, all those are super similar to me

potent swift
odd sparrow
cloud kindle
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FALLEN?

odd sparrow
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Why the fuck do writers keep doing this matrix bullshit

primal tide
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dark angels get mariachi music sometimes

odd sparrow
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what's even the appeal

storm jungle
shell pebble
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Fallen more like

Fallen off my fuckin' chair over the plot in these Dark Angel books

storm jungle
cerulean wagon
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Leave matrix bullshit for demons and psykers