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obtuse vault
final spruce
Homemade ?
atomic pelican
final spruce
I recognized the style
final spruce
The power of nitro
obtuse vault
cerulean wagon
i love it
obtuse vault
cursed zherlum emote
cerulean wagon
amazing
my friend didnt like the fact he didnt have an emote for me so he stuck a hat on a skeleton jpg
id post it but it uses my actual name
final spruce
Damn thats a lot of compliments
final spruce
Dancing elf
crisp heath
Well thanks for the answer
It's a neat story
I need to find the individuals here who suggested I read through Eisenhorn and thank them as well, I am still reading the first book because I am slow/busy, but it is pretty good so far
strange depot
if you are that strapped for time you could try the audiobook versions, Tody Longworth is an incredible talent
I don't recall him reusing a voice between the Eisenhorn or Ravenor novels and that's at least 30 individual voices
crisp heath
if you are that strapped for time you could try the audiobook versions, Tody Lon...
It's a good suggestion and likely would be worth the pursuit but I enjoy reading, I just read things slowly
heavy pine
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/355883380572684291/856338155653300234/j...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KjHclWPVij0 dwarf against elf
obtuse vault
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Dwarf>human>elf
odd sparrow
Several species of parasitic nematode>u
open marsh
Dwarf>human>elf
Summarized:
Any other race > elf
With notable exceptions. Like the Exodites
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@odd sparrow did I step on your lordship's highness long toes? Or is that misplaced ego cramping the room or did you pull up yer silk knickers up to high . I hate them hoidy toady I'm-better-then-all-races elves😂 😂
odd sparrow
people who hate elves have issues with emotional maturity
open marsh
No. Just issues with people who are overly arrogant for no reason and need to be taken down several pegs
odd sparrow
No. Just issues with people who are overly arrogant for no reason and need to be...
im sorry ur partner left u
but it was ur fault
supple plume
Sooooo me hating things that act like they own the place because of race , has to do with maturity. Don't make me laugh.
open marsh
Sooooo me hating things that act like they own the place because of race , has t...
I mean. everyone in 40k does that. But other races actually have merit.
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There ya go
odd sparrow
ok none meme talk but ppl taking genuine offence at a fantasy race being snooty is legit weird
elf hateboners are profoundly confusing
open marsh
ok none meme talk but ppl taking genuine offence at a fantasy race being snooty ...
I think its just because its so overdone and common
supple plume
So?
open marsh
elf hateboners are profoundly confusing
No so much elves themselves. Just their consistently shitty attitudes
With no actual reason to have that
supple plume
Yea if they didn't have that they would be swell
odd sparrow
tbh usually elves in media are presented as being fairly justified in that conviction
open marsh
You mean by always being a dying race who cant get their heads out of their asses long enough to fix their problems?
supple plume
They think they are better because they live longer?
odd sparrow
like, it has its roots in tolkien in which the whole the race of men is weak thing is v valid
supple plume
That's racism 101 😂
odd sparrow
and p much every other fantasy universe stealing his homework just ports it over
open marsh
Agreed
odd sparrow
Wood elves > high elves >> dark elves
supple plume
I agree there
open marsh
I like the Exodites because:
A. They leave everyone else the hell alone. Dont mess with them, they dont mess with you.
B. They ride dinosaurs into battle
open marsh
wood elves > dark elves > high elves.
odd sparrow
i dont get the appeal of dark elves tbh, at least if we're talking WH stuff
i LOVE them in ES
but that's a totally different vibe
supple plume
More like torture and maybe bdsm
odd sparrow
maybe
maybe
sir do not underestimate the sheer amount of bdsm that's been injected into 40k by sweaty nerds
The worst offender isn't dark elves for that tho, it's sisters of battle
open marsh
i dont get the appeal of dark elves tbh, at least if we're talking WH stuff
I like them decently enough in 40k because
A. They are more honest (ironically) that CWE
B. They are living proof that Slaanesh is still just a cheap imitation. Since they can pull of stuff that would make Slaanesh cringe
peak hamlet
Torture porn i guess, im not a huge fan of them besides their sick hydras
supple plume
Still still 40k or you going back to oldhammer?
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Hydras in 40k?
peak hamlet
Hydras in 40k?
Was about to ask that
odd sparrow
just replace it with whatever that weird floating thing is for ur monstrous choice
supple plume
That would be sick
open marsh
Torture porn i guess, im not a huge fan of them besides their sick hydras
Im not a fan of torture porn, its just the idea that there is this eldritch horror being from another dimension that was created by them long ago....and then realizing the Dark Eldar have actually gotten worse since, and are now capable of inflicting far worse horrors than an eldritch god.
peak hamlet
If i start a gark eldar army ill get a few hydras and nobody can stop me!
supple plume
Ah the homunculus thingy
peak hamlet
Im not a fan of torture porn, its just the idea that there is this eldritch horr...
I dont think anybody is a fan of torture porn outside of memes
odd sparrow
shifts the topic, forcefully
open marsh
Well noone that shouldnt be in a mental insitution
peak hamlet
Or well at least i hope nobody is
odd sparrow
Are they still actually selling hydras?
supple plume
There are sick minds out there
peak hamlet
Are they still actually selling hydras?
Yee
odd sparrow
nice
tho tbh like,,, a lot of the old delf models haven't aged great
glares at the black dragon
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AOS maybe has some
supple plume
Quick question : what are the 3 top things any fps should have?
supple plume
Go a bit deeper
UI is overrated if building , lets say
... guard game
I was thinking more like ... see your feet when looking down
supple plume
Yea like check the gun sides for clip count on the.lasgun
peak hamlet
For example
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Like metro did with the gas canister
final spruce
Heh i'd go for : Gun variety, snappy controls and graphic personality
open marsh
Same
final spruce
Good gameplay is a given but its too large as a term
supple plume
Snappy controls like peeking around a corner,?
open marsh
Minimalist HUDs, instead using ingame equipment to check is the best way to do a FPS in most cases
Like having a health monotron on your wrist to check your health
final spruce
Like your gun being responsive when you shoot, move your mouse etc
supple plume
How about a basic cover system
final spruce
I don't think thats really needed
There are genres of FPS that are about moving all around the map very rapidly etc
peak hamlet
Yeah i prefer minimalistic or no ui at all to the shit doom eternal did for example
COLORS
supple plume
Enlisted versus he'll let loose
Trying to build a game centering around Dkok , trench fighting and so on ... brainstorming for the most part
So I want to create more of an atmospheric shooter if that makes sense
Metro style I suppose
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I really love the setting of metro the dark gritty claustrophobic atmos
open marsh
Trying to build a game centering around Dkok , trench fighting and so on ... bra...
That would be Battle Field 1: 40k
open marsh
Also. Ive been looking about which regiments are based on what. Yes I know generally who is who, but now Im looking at the Scions. Apparently the 11th Kappic Eagles (the poster boys of the Scions) are based on U.S. SOCOM
With GW even have once advertised them in a diorama designed to look like Blackhawk Down
supple plume
They are the best of the best
open marsh
storm jungle
You mean by always being a dying race who cant get their heads out of their asse...
So... the Imperium
storm jungle
40K ELVES SHIT CRYSTALS
Xenology is outdated so thats been null lore for like 6 years by now
cerulean wagon
The only crystalisation eldar undergo is with regards to farseers
storm jungle
Yeee
peak hamlet
Xenology is outdated so thats been null lore for like 6 years by now
Yeah but like no new lore on that topic means its still canon
peak hamlet
No u
odd sparrow
canon doesn't exist anyways so
storm jungle
noooo
storm jungle
though tbh the book never specifies what the crystal residue is
peak hamlet
Yee
storm jungle
i heard a good theory of a guy saying it was the eldar in the cell slowly crystalizing
odd sparrow
elves pooping crystals is moronic so i dont accept it
storm jungle
SKDFS
peak hamlet
I accept it
storm jungle
fair enough
cerulean wagon
honestly
storm jungle
peak hamlet
Crystals dont have to be sharp
cerulean wagon
eldar farseer crystalisation
dim totem
though tbh the book never specifies what the crystal residue is
cocainum
peak hamlet
that's cruel
Dark eldar go brrrrr
storm jungle
No that was the Sequel with the fall of the eldar
cursive hull
lol
storm jungle
War in Heaven was like a prologue
odd sparrow
the war in heaven was way better thought out than the war on drugs
storm jungle
LOL
cursive hull
I mean
storm jungle
elves and orks in space fighting against egyptian terminators with space toads
agreed
cursive hull
You're telling the truth, so...
odd sparrow
Reagan was actually a necron
storm jungle
klsdflkd
cerulean wagon
god i hate
cursive hull
...This would make a lot of sense.
odd sparrow
why
odd sparrow
all they're trying to do is vibe and not give a bunch of mentally unstable cancer egyptians immortality
that's honestly quite reasonable
cerulean wagon
They bring nothing to the setting except people having bad ideas trying to connect things to them (such as nids being created by them)
storm jungle
yeah i hate those people
cerulean wagon
they are the last left over from WHF transplant that needs to be removed
cursive hull
The Old Ones are a nice plot convenience, but we could def do better now.
odd sparrow
ye they're kinda a clumsy example of big enigmatic ancient creator race
odd sparrow
They really just like. Don't play into anything is the issue.
There's no real thing they do
storm jungle
They just exist and then die
cursive hull
...Even the Precursors did something interesting and turned into angry dust monsters.
storm jungle
at least with fantasy they had the Lizardmen
which still tie into them in the larger narrative
odd sparrow
in halo the enigmatic creator race plays an active role in the plot, in WHFB the old ones themselves are a bigger deal who are elaborated on more substantially
in 40k they just. exist. it's meh
cerulean wagon
and replace them with the eldar gods, which we know exist and we know how most of them died
and would be so much more interesting
odd sparrow
tbh i'm still not sure of what the eldar gods are even meant to be in 40k
storm jungle
nobody does ratty
dim totem
Cocaine gods
odd sparrow
At least WHFB wore it on its sleeve
cursive hull
I'd actually accept the Eldar as being the eldest race.
...They definitely act like it, the arrogant fuckers.
odd sparrow
WE DONT KNOW WHAT THE GODS OR ARE HOW THEY WORK AND WE WONT ELABORATE
odd sparrow
necrons are honestly usually presented as being way less arrogant
cursive hull
Yes.
But I'm also one of those who dislike the "We have pointy ears so we're going to be arrogant High Elf stereotypes."
odd sparrow
it's just
cerulean wagon
issha is still alive, khaine is shattered and only his avatars can manifest
storm jungle
also the laughing god too
odd sparrow
this is my land. i know ur gonna contest this so we can deal with this issue by me turning u into gas, problem solved
cursive hull
It is a bit alleviated by the fact that everyone in 40k is arrogant
storm jungle
Yeah this too
eldar fall WAY below the spectrum
necrons suprass them too
especially when half their dialogue is "beep boop primitive"
cursive hull
Also, yeah, the Laughing God.
I still find him being the biggest hope for fucking up Slaanesh funny*
But that's the point
And, as for the Necrons...
I mean...
They're not wrong?
odd sparrow
slaanesh didn't even stay fucked in AoS
odd sparrow
GW doesn't have the balls to do away with BDSM goats
dim totem
I don't know what the concensus about this but
I think some thi fs are overexplained
Takes away the mystique
storm jungle
oh god 100%
dim totem
KEEP IT VAGUUUEEEE
dim totem
I honestly don't need to know what the eldar gods ré and if they're dead or not
cursive hull
Given even the Ad Mech, the best humanity can manage tech wise, don't even understand a tiny bit of Necron tech?
I'd say the Necrons have the right to at least jab at humanity for being "Primative."
I'd draw the line at the Eldar, but I've never heard them do that with Eldar.
dim totem
Spooky space elves is fine by me
storm jungle
Given even the Ad Mech, the best humanity can manage tech wise, don't even under...
oh yeah i wasnt saying they didnt
necrons can like
literally end the setting
but the script says "no you cant do that"
storm jungle
Juuuust a bit, just a "we can touch this table we have and destroy your entire solar system" bit
odd sparrow
it's basically like the entire pre fall eldar civilisation just. waking up at full power. except they're not distracted by whipping eachother and instead have put all their focus to figuring out new and inventive ways to give the BL writers headaches with making the necrons occasionally not curbstomp the enemy without it feeling contrived
(the BL writers fail at this)
storm jungle
yeah this too
they're hit with the plot stick
"you cant end the setting or do anything; we gotta make models you fuckhead"
"now have this political squabbling bodies you gotta deal with byeee"
odd sparrow
they never should've made them so op tbh. U cant just say like
cursive hull
I wish they'd at least justify why the setting is still going by having the Necrons decide to fuck up the Tyranids, and have these two alpha level threats go at one another.
It kinda makes sense already. The Necrons hate all life, and they also claim dominion over the galaxy. It'd make sense that they'd want to throw out some massive form of life that wants to spread across the galaxy and ruin their whole schtick.
odd sparrow
lmao this race is basically capable of every op tech sci fi trope in the book
including implications of time travel cus fuck you
storm jungle
oh god not the time travel
odd sparrow
meanwhile we have to balance them out in a setting in which the main military faction barely knows how a battery works
storm jungle
yeah ngl it does
odd sparrow
The newer tomb king-y necrons are def way more interesting, i prefer them
storm jungle
fucking orikan reversing time on a court hearing because they want to execute him on every timeline
cursive hull
Still. I think the Necrons fighting the Nid's and the two keeping one another in check would make sense to me.
odd sparrow
was that an infinite and the divine thing
odd sparrow
sdogvhsd
cursive hull
...So literally like... "I come to bargain!"
odd sparrow
fucking figures
storm jungle
YEP
storm jungle
Still. I think the Necrons fighting the Nid's and the two keeping one another in...
Also this
its hinted that the Silent King has the classic thing of uh
"w need flesh bodies and they're eating it so thats bad of the nids"
odd sparrow
eventually the nids just figure out that this galaxy is a skeleton deathtrap and just go past it
storm jungle
but the codex says this statement by him has "holes" in it
so id say its gonna be some sort of twist explained in like
looks at watch
10 years or so
cursive hull
lol
odd sparrow
whenever 40k ceases being profitable™️
storm jungle
LOL
peak hamlet
Didnt the nids avoid one planet since the crons imprisioned a ctan there or something?
storm jungle
Yeah its weird
odd sparrow
that would be pretty reasonable
hey there's a psychopathic vampire god on this planet
let's just
bounce
storm jungle
they basically avoid them because it'd be a waste of resources, they could kill crons if they wanted but its not worth it
also metal
peak hamlet
Yeah
storm jungle
odd sparrow
nids finally reach terra and just leave mars entirely to its own devices cus they want no part of that bullshit
peak hamlet
They usually dont engage crons either, no resources besides flayed ones(?)
peak hamlet
nids finally reach terra and just leave mars entirely to its own devices cus the...
Lmao
odd sparrow
they start digging more than five metres into it and release 400 demons, at least seven galaxy ending intelligences and a fully fledged c'tan
storm jungle
They usually dont engage crons either, no resources besides flayed ones(?)
yeee
like they got lots of weaponry that can melt metal and such
odd sparrow
plus each human on it has aprox 2 pounds actual flesh anyways
storm jungle
but as said before they dont want to waste buggies
cursive hull
I'm genuinely surprised Mars is still inhabited at this point.
odd sparrow
it's just that hondo THIS VENTURE IS NO LONGER PROFITABLE meme
nids gotta have efficient trades
peak hamlet
Hive fleet leviathan once killed off a few grey knights who protected some kind of chaos artifact that would open a giant warp rift that could danger terra but the nids just killed the demons off until the demons had enough and retreated
cursive hull
Like, favorite faction and all, but when you have several space hulks worth of horrible shit on, inside, and in orbit around your planet?
I feel like Mother Mars might be worth abandoning for greener pastures at this point.
odd sparrow
just push it somewhere else in deep space
storm jungle
which
odd sparrow
go live on venus or smthn
odd sparrow
,, pardon
odd sparrow
Then how exactly is it still in the solar syWhat
storm jungle
aka Armageddon
odd sparrow
alright i give up
storm jungle
DKDFKJS
cursive hull
Its for sentimentality, at this point, I feel.
storm jungle
to make it funnier they wanted to teleport mars during the War of the Beast
so they wouldnt get fucked and just the solar system would
chads
cursive hull
...Honestly, the Ad Mech teleporting a whole planet to doom all of humanity just to secure their toaster horde is perfectly in character.
odd sparrow
it is
storm jungle
i really hope that happens in the End Times ngl
them leaving terra to die is too in character
prime kernel
You cant just shoot a hole into the surface of mars
Any techpriest ever
“ watch me”
cursive hull
...TBH, What I'd really love is if their teleportation device malfunctions and they telefrag themselves into the sun.
odd sparrow
the admech better do the most hilarious and dumb shit in any 40k end times
like
they should be like the skaven in the WHFB end times
what do u mean you dropped the moon on brazil
storm jungle
dsKJSFDS
cursive hull
Crazy red robe wearin' bastards.
cursive hull
Kinda happens when your planet degenerates into a barbarian state of existence.
While the crazies on the red planet pretty much survive only because they had some engineers around who managed to survive and pass on at least some of that knowledge until everyone started a cargo cult based on knowing things.
...I do love the meta narrative of the Ad Mech though.
You're the center of forward human progress and scientific experimentation. The world ends, you cling to hope and survive, but not without losing things along the way. Too much gets lost, and you're forced to start fresh.
You start putting the pieces back together, only for half of your dudes to decide they don't need eyes where they're going, and they burn most of your shit to the ground, again, putting viruses on every computer and fucking with every blueprint.
Till all your left with is just a few scrambling scribes desperately running around collecting loose pieces of paper and whatever schematics they can find scribbled on napkins to desperately hoard to try and put together a jigsaw puzzle with most of the pieces missing.
peak hamlet
Finally found it! https://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Fall_of_Shadowbrink
Thats metal af
Chaos got a huge weakness to nids
Khorne gets no blood, only alien fluids. Nurgles plagues dont work since they adapt to it in no time at all. Slaaneshs temptations obviously dont work either. Tzeentch cant decieve them and in general they dont fear shit like mortals do
barren tapir
WITH TITAN THE PLANET
They didn't touched titan, they teleported from one side of mars to the other one of their moon, and after the war of the beast they teleported away ulanor, which is now called armageddon
barren tapir
Like, favorite faction and all, but when you have several space hulks worth of h...
You heretic!! Also what are you referring to when you say they have several space hulks on, inside and in orbit? Because there are no space hulk near mars
barren tapir
They didn't touched titan, they teleported from one side of mars to the other on...
BTW these teloprts were done with retroegineered ork tech
storm jungle
They didn't touched titan, they teleported from one side of mars to the other on...
Before leaving Titan for the final time, Malcador forged one last enchantment of arcane technology and psychic accumen, greater than any that had come before it, known as the Warp Nexus. Titan vanished completely from its orbit, hidden from Horus in the most unlikely of refuges -- Malcador had anchored it amongst the tides of the Warp. Protected by Macro-Geller fields and sigilic rites of Malcador's own devising, Titan rode out the tumult of the Warp whilst the rest of the galaxy endured through the last solar months of the Horus Heresy and the tragedy of the Emperor's final battle.
also yeah I said they teleported away Ullanor too so...
barren tapir
Yes, no Ad. Mech
barren tapir
also yeah I said they teleported away Ullanor too so...
Yeah, i didn't read that
storm jungle
I was talking about more on the aspect of teleporting planets but yeah no admech
barren tapir
Jumped that comment
barren tapir
barren tapir
I'm starting to get triggered more and more when reading "not entirely correct" Ad. Mech. lore... I guess that was something to expect with me delving deeper in that...
storm jungle
admech lore is pretty deep to be fair
barren tapir
I was always interested in it, so luckly i'm not a noob on it and have already read much, but since the 7ed with the addition of decent skitarii it has developed interesting
Also the fact that much of its lore is extremely similar to other universes i like is just top notch
Counting all i'm pretty sure that if i would start now collecting minis and playing TT i would start with Ad. Mech. instead of the IG, which was/kinda still is my fav faction because balls of adamantium
dim totem
Come pull out my weeds if you're that eager to get your hands dirty
obtuse vault
dim totem
🤷
dim totem
What did i do
obtuse vault
Also I must say
Loving the hypocrisy of the opinions in this chat
"Hate eldar empire. Evil and bad UWU"
"OH but drukhari are my elves if I had to pick. Love the evil aesthetic and bdsm vibes"
Genuinely I think this is the funniest shit I've ever read keep it up fellas ur doing good work
peak hamlet
Ik but the fact that they bdsm outweight that
obtuse vault
Worst part is they probably do both at the same time. Depending on the individual of course I don't think they are all into that
peak hamlet
Im not beeing serious btw
dim totem
Shitty bdsm
peak hamlet
Worst part is they probably do both at the same time. Depending on the individua...
Oh god stop
obtuse vault
It's the sad truth
Big win for the outlandish kink fandom in the Drukhari part of 40k as usual
Not to hate on the Drukhari I love them to pieces
Shitty little crack head ancaps
Who could resist them
peak hamlet
Oh god that means that there are some dark eldar furries out there
final spruce
Sphess mrens
peak hamlet
~~You know im right 👀 ~~
dim totem
No leave me alone
final spruce
~~You know im right 👀 ~~
Most likely
I wouldnt even be surprised if it wasnt considered a kink but just a normal thing.
final spruce
peak hamlet
you think the deldar wouldnt go further?
I absolutely do but i doubt i can mention it without getting banned
final spruce
Too late Hobo you're on the "will be banned" list now
obtuse vault
It's true
If you want evicdnce
See the haemonculous covens
Also b4 I go to work I just step in and say the funniest shit I ever seen in this chat is medic saying his only good opinion, which is that exodites are cool and should have an army
FUNNIEST SHIT I EVER SEEN
Exodites just so good that even he has good opinions about them
open marsh
Dinosaurs are pretty hard to go against i suppose
Agreed
Like I mentioned earlier. The Exodites are the wood elves of 40k. And wood elves tend to be far more tolerable by default, and then you add in dinosaurs
storm jungle
Tolerable? I thought they are pretty much the same attitude wise
open marsh
They have the advantage of not going around and screwing everyone else over.
open marsh
Not nearly to the same extent. They tend to stay to their Maiden Worlds. You dont have to deal with them unless you come rocking up onto their planet. At that point you are asking for it
storm jungle
So basically them not doing anything and staying where they are makes them better as a faction or?
peak hamlet
Kinda
open marsh
Yeah kinda. They dont go around pissing everyone else off
🌴
open marsh
I think it saying something that, unlike Craftworlds, They cant just move. And yet they have survived even to the current day
storm jungle
Yeah its the isolationist aspect helping them out
well that and them having no army book, if they did the writers would have to write some excuse about them having reasons to attack other factions etc
open marsh
If the Craftworlders would learn from them, they;d probably have not lost so many craftworlds up to this point
storm jungle
So basically stay and do nothing and let the galaxy kill itself?
CW are pretty much the only faction trying to prevent everything from getting worse on the eldar side
Edit: Also forgot the harlequins doing pranks too
seeing as dark eldar dont care either
open marsh
Preferably be actually helpful. But just chillaxing is better than going out, pissing everyone off, and turning them against you when you need allies more than ever to defeat a greater foe
open marsh
:u
storm jungle
:v
open marsh
The difference with the Imperium is that they are still the strongest overall force in the galaxy. They still have a reason to be cocky
storm jungle
They dont lol
Thats the entire irony of them as a faction, aka them not having to be this brutal
Also to be fair rewinding back a bit, the lore establishes clearly that craftworlds get attacked regularly when they are doing nothing too
So it makes no difference either way
open marsh
Its certainly an irony, but they can still back up their arrogance. While the Eldar are like that targarian boy at the start of game of thrones. Then one who they poured gold over his head
storm jungle
Backing it up with WMDs isnt really making a point
storm jungle
Its just proving further that they're not better than anyone else and just hold a bigger stick to bonk people with
open marsh
Its just proving further that they're not better than anyone else and just hold ...
And thats the point
open marsh
Might makes right. We get to be arrogant because we can smack ya harder than you can smack us
storm jungle
That and the Imperium suppose to be a decaying empire i assume?
It literally survives because the plot demands it, well that and sales lol
dim totem
Also b4 I go to work I just step in and say the funniest shit I ever seen in thi...
Poor medic
open marsh
Supposed to be yes. When there is a faction that can over take it. Then they wont have the right to be arrogant anymore and will be just as annoying at the Eldar. #NecronsRise
storm jungle
I mean your points are pretty bad and you yourself admit you know nothing about eldar lore aside from surface memes so
but hey :v
open marsh
i know more than you think. i just really do not like the Craftworld (and to a slightly lesser extent, Dark) Eldar
storm jungle
You literally propose all the eldar should take drugs and lie and do nothing
But sure ill take your word on that
open marsh
You literally propose all the eldar should take drugs and lie and do nothing
I never said they should lie
storm jungle
open marsh
storm jungle
...You have
open marsh
Also, doing drugs and nothing else is how that one Dark Eldar made himself unpalatable to Slaanesh
storm jungle
....again no?
storm jungle
Dark eldar actively kidnap people and go through extreme efforts to keep their slave stockpiles up so that they can just pour more into their lifeline which is just a quickly draining bucket with a hole
even vect himself knows they'll perish sooner or later and he'll ride the ship as long as he can
open marsh
Except that one Dark Eldar. Who just did drugs and found himself happy and content
And Slaanesh was like "....idk how to handle this...."
storm jungle
Yeah because it was a badly written book whos plotpoints are gonna be forgotten in like a year
This is like me preaching about how the GK using the blood of the sisters of battle is still prevalent
open marsh
This is like me preaching about how the GK using the blood of the sisters of bat...
They got retconned tho. Otherwise yes it would have still counted
storm jungle
So will this sooner or later
open marsh
So will this sooner or later
Until it does. The Dark Eldar who reached Nirvana is best Dark Eldar
storm jungle
Again, they arent but sure
storm jungle
You're the one spamming emotes :v
But yeah dont say you know a lot more than I think about eldar lore while getting the core principals of a faction wrong
like, several times
but hey
open marsh
summer niche
open marsh
Me: Just says whats in the lore
Dilara: YoU dOnT kNoW tHe LoRe
open marsh
Yeah because its a one off thing that wont extend outside that character. because that could actually fundamentally change the Dark Eldar / damage Slaanesh. And Status Quo is king
The character still did it. It works. But for sake of the table top, it wont be widely adopted by the Dark Eldar
open marsh
karmic gulch
Wtf is going on in this chat..
storm jungle
memes mostly
storm jungle
The character still did it. It works. But for sake of the table top, it wont be ...
That logic can literally apply to any mcguffin introduced throughout the 30 years of lore, you just take it far and beyond because its eldar fluff lol
open marsh
Wtf is going on in this chat..
Mostly some people (looking at Dilara) Ignoring lore books while claiming other people (me) somehow dont know the lore. In a painful bit of irony. Because apparently they are salty that not everyone love the Craftworld Eldar.
storm jungle
I'm not salty that you dont "love" them though
You make it look like im force-feeding you outdated guardian minis lol
open marsh
Ive addressed their newer lore as well. Including commenting that I am approving of some recent developments, that if continue my opinion of them may change
Also that one time I felt bad when a CWE was killed by a member of one of my favorite space marine chapters. And making me side against them isnt easy
From the story "The Pact"
‘I want to thank you…’ she began, but Bhehan shook his head.
‘I did what I had to do. Do not thank me for exposing my mind to you.’ He unclamped the bolt pistol he wore at his thigh.
‘Listen to me, Bhehan,’ she said, reaching a hand up to him. He winced at her use of his name, the insult cutting him deeply. ‘I know what you must do. I always have known how this must end. But you have seen, now. You have seen that we are not all that you believe us to be. That even though there cannot be peace between our two peoples, there can surely come some tolerance.’
‘Heed my words, xenos. I have purged your taint from my mind already,’ was the reply. ‘When I return to my ship, I will cleanse my soul of this experience. By the time I return to my home world, you will not even be a memory. I promise you that much.’
Tears filled her eyes. ‘I had hoped…’ she said, simply and then held her head high. The pride in her expression was worthy of Bhehan’s respect even if it… if she was not.
‘In time,’ she said, ‘I hope you remember what you saw here.’
‘Do not count on it,’ he replied, pressing the bolt pistol against her head.
The killing shot echoed loudly through the fallen fortress. Bhehan stared at her fallen, broken body without expression.```
storm jungle
Alas
open marsh
For context, she just helped him kill a daemon of nurgle
And was hoping that would help show them that a human / Eldar alliance would be a deadly combo against Chaos
storm jungle
The Eldar's job is to die so thats not a possibility sadly
open marsh
In this situation, its the Space Marine being the underhanded, unhelpful jackass
storm jungle
open marsh
She had probably banked on him having that Ultramarine sense of honor.
Its just too bad the Silver Skulls aren't actually Ultramarines. Instead she teamed up with a son of Perturabo and all the jackassery that comes with it
Other example of CWE having their shit together: Eldrad Ulthran, Illiyanne Nastase, and to a lesser extent the entire Craftworld of Biel-Tan
open marsh
(also if it helps look into my issues with the CWE/DE in general. The reason I dislike them is the same reason I dislike Fulgrim and hold that he continues to have the most punchable face in 40k. Also the same reason I hate Lucius and he really needs to feckin die.)
(granted that is traitor/daemon Fulgrim. Loyal/Clone Fulgrim learned and hates what he did is and seeking to atone for it.)
visual pumice
storm jungle
me rn
storm jungle
Dawn of War is pseuo-cannon actually. Like the lore of the games isnt fully integrated but only like 2-3 events are mentioned here and there.
Otherwise its pretty barren
You can literally say that about any faction
cerulean wagon
yes really
visual pumice
storm jungle
...Space Marines fans literally say they are even tired of the Imperium winning all the time. Have you ever seen the fandom at large
clearly
lmao
cerulean wagon
different indeed
storm jungle
but yeah EVERY faction eldar included has its worst cesspool, concentrating your dislike on a single faction because of a video game is a bit extreme imo
storm jungle
Is it because they're weebs?
cerulean wagon
they arent mary sue tho, they lost the last 2 wars they have been in
because the imperium finds them insignificant
visual pumice
tau get their shit kicked in constantly do they not?
shell pebble
Cuz Imperium isn't gonna waste it's time on a small ass faction when they got Tyranids, Necrons, Orks, and Chaos to worry about
storm jungle
Because models
cerulean wagon
but they dont
storm jungle
Same reason why orks havent destroyed the Imperium yet
storm jungle
Yeah but you miss the point, literally every faction has that same principle.
cerulean wagon
so does tau survival
Tau survival is literally the imperium is too large and the imperium has more important threats
like say
chaos or nids
or the necron uprising
storm jungle
It cant lmao
cerulean wagon
"models are secondary to lore" - literaly a game designed to be a tabletop first and foremost
storm jungle
GW themselves outright said the tabletop is considered first and foremost, the lore is written around it
cerulean wagon
thats the fans, not the setting
storm jungle
What
cerulean wagon
the models get to rewrite lore
storm jungle
Yeah but models still sell
they are the main source of income for GW, not fans that just sit and read stuff off the wiki
cerulean wagon
The models are literaly the centre of the setting, we can like the lore all we like but if GW go "this faction no longer exists" they no longer exist
see: squats
storm jungle
They're doing that now tho arent they
shell pebble
GW is mainly and foremost a modeling company
storm jungle
Oh yeah of that we have no doubt
final spruce
^
cerulean wagon
what do you think the animations, video games and other pushes they are doing atm are supposed to be
final spruce
Have good animations to promote your miniature and universe is needed
shell pebble
They have been doing that as of recent, even if it's a bit backwards
final spruce
Gatekeeping those promotional materials behind a paid subscription is unwise
cerulean wagon
they are doing animations and this push on gaming as a side project
"silent majority
storm jungle
bruh
cerulean wagon
barren tapir
I'm very silent yes
storm jungle
I mean its the truth
barren tapir
I would say that i'm sneaky
cerulean wagon
I am going to keep laughing cause its funny af
final spruce
Wait you guys unironically use Twitter ?
barren tapir
But that is needed for survival for me
storm jungle
Wait you guys unironically use Twitter ?
for nsfw purposes
barren tapir
Wait you guys unironically use Twitter ?
I don't
final spruce
Understandable
storm jungle
weak fern
Mmmh
shell pebble
Wait you guys unironically use Twitter ?
For art
weak fern
For UwU post
final spruce
What
storm jungle
what
storm jungle
patriotism for the Imperium?
barren tapir
What? What Federation?
storm jungle
No?????
cerulean wagon
gaz for the orks is literaly Margaret thatcher
visual pumice
mythbusted
shell pebble
Imperium isn't supposed to be praised
cerulean wagon
the setting is built on political memes
shell pebble
It's ridiculously fucked up
barren tapir
Aaaahhh, ok, me too...
shell pebble
But everything is fucked up in 40k and that's why we like it
storm jungle
Money?
weak fern
Nice new profile image
Thanks mate
shell pebble
GW pushing for protagonists
cerulean wagon
because having a named character sells
visual pumice
Humans would be good protagonists for human media no?
barren tapir
Thanks mate
Did you found any new info about triplex phall?
I remember that you were into that forge world
storm jungle
Yeah like, if you unorinically support the Imperium thats pretty cringe. Most 40k fans like the imperium because its decepticon levels of evil and thats the fun of it in the entire setting
what the imperium does isnt necessary
its suppose to be extreme
weak fern
Not really i decide to create my own Forge World
storm jungle
Devoted fanbase?
barren tapir
Not really i decide to create my own Forge World
Ooohh, noice, with the new rules included in the 9th ed?
storm jungle
Literally everyone knows the movie is suppose to parody fascism
its abundantly clear and thats what makes it funny
barren tapir
I'm one i'm one
storm jungle
damn its like thousands of likes matter
weak fern
Ooohh, noice, with the new rules included in the 9th ed?
I'm just into the basic lore...its pretty hard cuz i have difficulty
cerulean wagon
"I think that comes out of the fact that people sort of underestimate quite how much of Warhammer and Warhammer 40k came out of the '80s in the UK and some of its sort of contemporary things that started around about the same time, things like 2000 AD and Judge Dredd and that kind of stuff. They were all essentially satirical responses to the Thatcherite government and what life was like back then. So there is a huge element of knowing satire and commentary within them and in things like Judge Dredd that is sort of on the nose. It's obvious that it's a sort of a satirical take on the fascist police state, I suppose. In Warhammer, I think it's more deeply hidden because it's also a game and people get lost in the sheer fun of playing it, but I think it always comes back to that.
There is that sort of Maverick and iconoclastic feeling that gave rise, for instance, to the alternative comedy movement in the UK in the '80s and that kind of stuff. But it came out of the same kind of mindset -- it's not that the creators just went and made the darkest thing they could possibly make as an end to itself. They made it dark because that was the vehicle with which they could transmit that idea of the individual and stuff like that. And I think so many years on it's kind of easy to forget that's where it's coming from, but I think people who maybe don't know the universes very well or choose not to play them, they think, "Oh, is that the ridiculously over the top nasty one?" And it's like, well, it's kind of not -- there is a layer of something in there that you're missing, that you're not sort of understanding where this originated from."
dan abnett himself
"its satire"
storm jungle
Yeah even if they dropped blatant parodies and such 40k still pokes at the failing body of what a giant dictatorial empire would be like
especially extensively through books
weak fern
Ooohh, noice, with the new rules included in the 9th ed?
And are you into french langage ?
barren tapir
And are you into french langage ?
Eeeehh, not really, i think i can understand it... With some google translation it can reasonably work though
weak fern
Eeeehh, not really, i think i can understand it... With some google translation ...
Arf cuz i'm french...so i write french ^^'
barren tapir
And are you into french langage ?
Anyway, if you want to share it, even if in french, i would be interested in taking a look 👀
barren tapir
Arf cuz i'm french...so i write french ^^'
I know, but with the power of tech i think it will be not a problem
cerulean wagon
he literaly says it right there that it is
weak fern
But basicly its a Forge World who he stuck into the Mechanicum and live with the Adeptus Mechanicus and loyalist Iron Warrior
cerulean wagon
"They were all essentially satirical responses to the Thatcherite government and what life was like back then. So there is a huge element of knowing satire and commentary within them and in things like Judge Dredd that is sort of on the nose. It's obvious that it's a sort of a satirical take on the fascist police state, I suppose. In Warhammer, I think it's more deeply hidden because it's also a game and people get lost in the sheer fun of playing it, but I think it always comes back to that."
this bit right here
visual pumice
what
shell pebble
Who
storm jungle
I really dont understand whats so hard to get about the Imperium being evil. The books they publish to this day say it every time in their first page
cerulean wagon
the oppresive imperium telling them to lay down there lives for nothing?
barren tapir
But basicly its a Forge World who he stuck into the Mechanicum and live with the...
An interesting idea to develop, although not an easy one...
weak fern
Imo idc if Imperium is a satire or not, i just enjoy the figs and the lore
storm jungle
Bro this guy is literally brainwashed
cerulean wagon
are you forgetting the order they are given to charge into their own artillery
and the fact the general orders a shelling of his own troops
shell pebble
They're also fighting for a god who they don't know is legit just a corpse on a gaudy fuckin' throne that doesn't do much
storm jungle
and the fact the general orders a shelling of his own troops
THE IMPERIUM ARE THE GOOD GUYS
weak fern
An interesting idea to develop, although not an easy one...
Hard one yes but i use the power of....Warp Tempest ! X)
shell pebble
Also said god is dumb in Horus Heresy book series apparently
cerulean wagon
Said corrupt general is the satirical element of the government they are removing
storm jungle
dude i cant...
cerulean wagon
weak fern
The Emperor dont care he pactised with Chaos Force !
shell pebble
He's also a sociopath that fucked up his primarchs because he's a shitty father
storm jungle
Nobody is saying they need to lie down and die
barren tapir
Hard one yes but i use the power of....Warp Tempest ! X)
Ah, yeah, the old trick of "warp did that"... It is an old one, but still checks out... And still a good tool
storm jungle
they can be a force of reckoning without being absolutely evil
cerulean wagon
see: interex
who were fighting chaos and were doing it well
and then the imperium killed them
weak fern
Ah, yeah, the old trick of "warp did that"... It is an old one, but still checks...
For a beginner like me, its easy to use i dont gonna say no
cerulean wagon
and caused the whole chaos issue
Its shown in lore multiple times that the imperial way is an ineffective way compared to the alternative
weak fern
I just want to chill into a Craftworld and leave in peace fuck...
shell pebble
When the commissar kills his own soldiers because that soldier, under perfectly understandable duress, wanted to fall back
cerulean wagon
the humans who worked with xenos
weak fern
And not fuck a Eldar big tiddy dont care just chilling
cerulean wagon
and had great relations
and were beating chaos
ah yes, because the imperium didnt
storm jungle
"""Protecting"""
barren tapir
Interex, a what an interesting civ, they knew about chaos and were actively fighting it
cerulean wagon
the imperium is doing so well at resolving the chaos issue
johnny, remind me
hows cadia these days?
barren tapir
The interex were also capable to beating to a planet the mega archanids, or more commonly called "asutralians spiders"... They were a capable civ
weak fern
Ah, yeah, the old trick of "warp did that"... It is an old one, but still checks...
I gonna send you the pdf in mp its ok ?
Or maybe here...
shell pebble
They aren't tay
barren tapir
I gonna send you the pdf in mp its ok ?
Sure, thanks
shell pebble
Tau*
cerulean wagon
Ye blank interex were beating chaos and a bunch of other stuff
and then the imperium sided with chaos
weak fern
If someone want to torture to french alngage
storm jungle
"""The Good Guys"""
shell pebble
Still happens
Doesn't change the fact that commissars can and will do it to keep people on line
obtuse vault
ITS IN THEIR TABLE TOP RULES
barren tapir
If someone want to torture to french alngage
Better not, we don't need french bashing here at the moment i think
obtuse vault
OMGGGGGG
cerulean wagon
shell pebble
Then they're not good guys, they're just people trying to survive
obtuse vault
ITS PART OF THE STRATEGY
weak fern
Better not, we don't need french bashing here at the moment i think
Yeah Imperium fan vs Dilara... WD
obtuse vault
BAGAAHHAAH LOOSING MY MIND OVER THIS ONE FELLAS
cerulean wagon
surviving is not a morale state, what you do to survive is what decides your morales
the ends do not justify the means
barren tapir
I think that this discussion has derailed a bit and is getting people warmed up, what about taking a break?
storm jungle
I think that this discussion has derailed a bit and is getting people warmed up,...
Not when theres a literal fascist in the room
weak fern
GSC are the good guys. Change my mind.
storm jungle
Tbh though, I dont know what I expected from someone naming themselves after a protagonist who's entire purpose in the movie is being brainwashed by propaganda and to die on the field until someone takes his place again like his predecessor lol
But hey, glory to mankind and destroying everything we dont understand ,right lads
No, its the fact that you literally support an evil empire the makers themselves say are the bad guys.
barren tapir
I mean, i think that cooling down would lead to a better discussion
storm jungle
?????????
visual pumice
it literally is
shell pebble
No it doesn't. If you think shooting your own men for the 'betterment of everyone' will solve everything on top of extreme zealotism and xenophobia, your moral compass is a roulette wheel at this rate
barren tapir
Instead of saying "you wrong me right" we could try to understand other POV, of course there would be a need to share sources and infos
storm jungle
Instead of saying "you wrong me right" we could try to understand other POV, of ...
But hes literally wrong. Nobody here is agreeing with this guy lmao
obtuse vault
Everything. They are ugly too. That makes them even worse than just normal fascists.
weak fern
We should all die for Mommy Magos Genestealer.
cerulean wagon
Instead of saying "you wrong me right" we could try to understand other POV, of ...
people have understood, the guy is saying that starship troopers is pro nazi and therefore based
shell pebble
Btw it's fine to be a fan of the Imperium
Just don't think it works IRL and all
Ye
cerulean wagon
yup
storm jungle
Yeah I like the Imperum too, but they're suppose to be a parody of every bad regime imaginable put into one
weak fern
I like Imperium but...erf... i dont line the GW politic to say IMPERIUM GOOD XENO BAD BLA BLA BLA
obtuse vault
Nvm THIS is the funniest shit I've ever seen
Keep this up fellas this shit is too good
shell pebble
The fuck?
cerulean wagon
wew
shell pebble
The fuck does that do with this shit?
cerulean wagon
johnny are you feelin okay there bub
storm jungle
He has become Johnny Rico
shell pebble
This is pretty funny
barren tapir
Keep this up fellas this shit is too good
Shouldn't you be at work btw?
cerulean wagon
"I cant be wrong so you must support pedos" is a new level of reality rejection as yet unrecorded
visual pumice
it defo is not
barren tapir
See, this is what i was fearing would happen
cerulean wagon
its not at all lmao
shell pebble
Who? Like 50 people in all of NA?
visual pumice
what the actual fuck are you talking about
shell pebble
Yeah that's real support right there
shell pebble
WHAT
obtuse vault
FELLAS
shell pebble
WHAT THE FUCK DOES THAT MEAN
obtuse vault
WE HAVE A HOMOPHOBE
shell pebble
I never heard this shit!
lunar horizon
Oh my god shut up
barren tapir
Yall are weird
I can assure you it is not always like this
weak fern
She' still better than Emperor.
obtuse vault
HES TALKING ABOUT THE BLUES CLUES PRIDE PARADE
shell pebble
WHAT THE FUCM DOES THIS COME FROM I
cloud kindle
what the fuck is going on in here
shell pebble
WHAT
obtuse vault
LMAOOOOOOOOO
cerulean wagon
storm jungle
Yeah ngl im dying over here
obtuse vault
POOR BABY IS MAD THAT A TV SHOW IS TEACHING KIDS ABOUT GAY PEOPLE
shell pebble
This is too good
obtuse vault
HELP ME GOD HELP ME
lunar horizon
Why are you getting political
cloud kindle
@storm jungle im confused save me
barren tapir
This chat has gone to shit
visual pumice
<@!166943308231344128> im confused save me
imperium stan
storm jungle
actual Imperials would find this dude unsettling sitting in a trench with him
obtuse vault
EVERYONE HELP GOD HELP THE KIDS SHOW PUT PRIDE FLAGS ON THE SCREEN
storm jungle
what the fuck is going on in here
Johnny Rico says the Imperium are the good guys and we're ganking him
visual pumice
shovel him
weak fern
I would never say that but Dilara please stop him
obtuse vault
IM DYING ITS KILLING ME
cloud kindle
i mean no one is the good guys
obtuse vault
Here let me help.
cloud kindle
thats 40k in a nutshell
lunar horizon
Well both of them are blocked
shell pebble
Man I'm glad I don't follow Twitter closely at all
This shit sounds like it came straight outta there
barren tapir
Well both of them are blocked
Who?
lunar horizon
We have a twitter snowflake arguing with a dude glorifying facism
storm jungle
What the hell are you talking about, stop already
literally nobody here agrees with you
cloud kindle
storm jungle
Guys can you help me out here
cerulean wagon
well aparently you are
barren tapir
Ok, do i need to ping the wardens to end this shitstorm?
visual pumice
my brain is melting
cloud kindle
@plucky moth i summon you sunshine
shell pebble
"We gamers will rise from the 40k server and take back what's ours"
Got that kind of vibe
cloud kindle
hello hello hello hello hello hello
peak hamlet
What the shit johnny
weak fern
visual pumice
imperium is evil? literally 1984
peak hamlet
How about leaving the server? Ur like the only one with this opinion here
cerulean wagon
barren tapir
Welp, i have french to translate, imma gonna head out
weak fern
Actually i like Imperium but at this level....dude...
visual pumice
who? the aliens?
peak hamlet
Oh no its the "Deeeeeeeeeeeeep state" guys
storm jungle
Alright im gonna go ping incan brb
obtuse vault
Yep yep
peak hamlet
Alright im gonna go ping incan brb
Thx!
final spruce
Welp, i have french to translate, imma gonna head out
What dya need translated
cloud kindle
i mean i like the imperium cause the alternative is pretty messed up
weak fern
Never.
cloud kindle
but its just a lesser evil
barren tapir
What dya need translated
Kamelia shared with me her Forge World concept
barren tapir
Which are?
cloud kindle
peak hamlet
Can we ban the weirdo dude and the twitter warrior
Yes please
lunar horizon
The dude arguing about facism and the one screaming in all caps “YOU HATE GAYS HAHAHHAHAHAHA”
shell pebble
Me?
lunar horizon
No
barren tapir
No
peak hamlet
Nah
barren tapir
I got who
lunar horizon
I have em blocked
peak hamlet
The dude jhonny
weak fern
Certenly not me i guess
lunar horizon
Jhonny and elf something
storm jungle
Get em boyz
barren tapir
I have em blocked
Anyway, IDK if you are new, but this is not the normality here, so please don't be scared
lunar horizon
Im not scared
cloud kindle
dont lie to them van
barren tapir
Good
cloud kindle
edgy
shell pebble
Whoa whoa
weak fern
No Dilara please, this time i'm not going cringe !
lunar horizon
Well partially have been because this server seems like its infested with twitter filth
visual pumice
welp that's that then
barren tapir
We lost people that entered the server during these shitstorms
lunar horizon
But i mean
barren tapir
<@&735928989146939404> please end this shit
peak hamlet
Yeah
peak hamlet
Help us incan
barren tapir
Maybe i should start writing them down
lunar horizon
Ay yo thats JOHNNY RICO dawg
storm jungle
Execute Order 666
lunar horizon
Put some respecc on his name
cloud kindle
cerulean wagon
also its a throw away account btw
peak hamlet
Hes probably "super straight" too lmao
weak fern
Eh ! In fact Johnny get one things : i'm ok with Dilara, we should stop his cringe
peak hamlet
Where is incan when we need him 😭
obtuse vault
Where is incan when we need him 😭
Don't worry good citizens. Incan has been contacted WITH screenshots
cloud kindle
you would prob be purged instead tbh
weak fern
Oh thanks !
cold mango
what thef uck did I just come back to
storm jungle
HES DEAD
cloud kindle
kaelus
shell pebble
And he's gone thank ya!
obtuse vault
O GOD
cloud kindle
execute order 66
weak fern
THANKS WARDEN
cold mango
holy shit man
obtuse vault
peak hamlet
what thef uck did I just come back to
Finally!
weak fern
This getting really cringe
obtuse vault
GLAD I GOT SCREENSHOTS LMAAOOOOOOO
cold mango
or was it just that one idiot?
obtuse vault
Just one
barren tapir
I see a ping and the _first_ message I see
Yeah, i pinged you, wait a sec
cloud kindle
im an idiot tbh
storm jungle
Only him