But on Necromunda....they tried....and they got their asses kicked
#40k-lore-chat
open marsh
strange depot
there is that hiveworld that runs on clockwork, that would be interesting to look at, if nothing else
storm jungle
But on Necromunda....they tried....and they got their asses kicked
Yeah because it needs to survive as a tabletop setting
strange depot
Dishonored 2 was not that amazing with the clockwork mansion
storm jungle
literally any other hiveworld could nuke a hive genestealers occupied too and just act like nothing of note happened
cerulean wagon
necromunda has thicc plot armour
strange depot
it was cool but then they had another mission that was the exact same but time
cerulean wagon
its the ultramarine of hiveworlds
open marsh
See it really wouldn't. Necromunda is just on a different level. Necromunda is insane. It has several different groups, one of any of which would end a hive world. But on Necromunda, they are just another another group.
strange depot
the Imperial fists need to get recruits from somewhere
storm jungle
necromunda has thicc plot armour
Yeah basically this lol
necromunda is just a glorified hiveworld with more fluff than others
its really not that unique unless you count the gangs
prime kernel
Fluff to rule them
cerulean wagon
every hive world has "several different groups"
thats
kinda what a hive world is
prime kernel
And in darkness bind them
cerulean wagon
infact all worlds do
storm jungle
yeah pretty much
prime kernel
Also good evening all
open marsh
necromunda is just a glorified hiveworld with more fluff than others
...you have to be memeing at this point
cerulean wagon
evening boomer
storm jungle
I'm not lol
strange depot
what would be interesting would be one of the paradise worlds but with all the same corruption
prime kernel
Cheapshot but hello what we disscusing
storm jungle
Insistent that necromunda is "crazy" is the funny part
almost a billion hiveworlds do the same shit they do
open marsh
So. Darktide. Hive world. Chaos cult so bad that the Inquisiton is having to get involved
storm jungle
it just has a special place since its the setting for a side-game
prime kernel
@storm jungle the tabletop sells well
open marsh
On Necromunda, it never would have gotten that large (because Necromunda has several chaos cults).
strange depot
so, idea pitch, the internal workings and politics of a single Titan
prime kernel
Ergo necromunda is most interesting
strange depot
you're the Princeps and you need to keep everything running but everyone hates everyone else like all jobs
storm jungle
Yep, like i said its just a fleshed out world that people have a liking to
prime kernel
Oh btw
open marsh
Its like saying GorkaMorka is just a normal Ork planet. When it was so crazy that Trayzn added it to his collection
prime kernel
Did you guys see the new game the devs from mechanicus have made ?
Its fucking dope!!
strange depot
the Skitarii are trying to form a union and someone turned off the Wi-Fi so you can't take direct control
storm jungle
Its like saying GorkaMorka is just a normal Ork planet. When it was so crazy tha...
GorkaMorka is unique though lol
open marsh
GorkaMorka is unique though lol
Oh no no no. Its just a normal Ork world. Obviously
strange depot
he does deal in volume
open marsh
Not really. Its a side game world. Like Necromunda
prime kernel
So
storm jungle
I mean if you dont want to accept reality thats fine by me 🤷♀️
storm jungle
genestealer cults literally take over hiveworlds through distilleries to infecting water supplies
so the only reason necromunda is even standing is due to it having plot armor
open marsh
And on Necromunda, they failed. Without any outside help. Because Necromunda is that insane
cerulean wagon
na boom, but prob wanna ask in #735951004989784104 anyway since this is lore bits
storm jungle
And on Necromunda, they failed. Without any outside help. Because Necromunda is ...
So is the rest of the galaxy
yet genestealers topple planets and have spread across entire segmentums just the same
open marsh
yet genestealers topple planets and have spread across entire segmentums just th...
Which goes to show you how insane Necromunda is
cerulean wagon
ye necromunda has nothing special other than being a named planet
storm jungle
Yeah i dont get whats so hard to get about this lol
open marsh
Its an IP loss
We lost Cadia but we still have Cadians
cerulean wagon
cadia isnt an IP
open marsh
cadia isnt an IP
And yet they won't die. They are like a cockroach infestation
cerulean wagon
its the astra militarum and not cadia so it still gets sold as such, cause basically everyone used that gear
where as necromunda is a named hive planet with named gangs and cultures
strange depot
there are cadian worlds that aren't Cadia
cerulean wagon
if they destroyed it they'd need to write from the ground up a new ip for a new tabletop
strange depot
which is unfortunate, I think making it that specific is kind of a fault
open marsh
Summary: Necromunda is just insane and I really don't see where everyone is getting that it's just a run if the mill Hive World.
strange depot
works for Mordheim because the Wyrdstones
cerulean wagon
thats literaly just standard hive world affair
primal tide
But guys it's real big
open marsh
Yeah...okay....not really...
But okay
strange depot
they could have had a game called "Hiveworld" and more general rules so you can build your own games
storm jungle
But guys it's real big
its crazy
cerulean wagon
you don't understand, it has seperate gangs chapin
primal tide
It's super big guys
open marsh
Terra is just a normal hive world too. I guess. Nothing special about it. Because reasons
cerulean wagon
necromunda is a normal hive world, not terra
primal tide
STC pattern argument
cerulean wagon
thats a different convo
storm jungle
The literal homeworld of humanity with all the adeptus' stationed there and the custodian guard and uh the Emperor of Mankind
cerulean wagon
storm jungle
but yeah its just a hiveworld i guess
open marsh
The literal homeworld of humanity with all the adeptus' stationed there and the ...
Oh but it's a hive world. So I guess that makes it just like ever other give world.
storm jungle
Oh but it's a hive world. So I guess that makes it just like ever other give wor...
You're the one making the comparison not me 
so whoops
atomic pelican
a necromunda hive gang could easily take on a entire space marine chapter and also a imperial guard regiment
primal tide
'My comparison fails so yours automatically does too'
cerulean wagon
a necromunda hive gang could easily take on a entire space marine chapter and al...
that thicc ass plot armour comes i handy
primal tide
Necromunda hive gang promoted to primaris lieutenant
open marsh
You're the one making the comparison not me <:lul:825836255853674540>
Not really. I was the one who said that Necromunda is on a different level that other hive worlds. With reasons behind such.
But y'all just keep saying it's a normal hive world and has plot armour..
Because.
Reasons
cerulean wagon
storm jungle
Not really. I was the one who said that Necromunda is on a different level that ...
Because
It
Is
cerulean wagon
because it doesnt do anything unique that other hive worlds don't already do
open marsh
Terra
cerulean wagon
excpet being immune to having problems
atomic pelican
the tabletop about gangs had to be set somewhere
storm jungle
yeah i really dont understand whats so hard to get about this lmao
open marsh
because it doesnt do anything unique that other hive worlds don't already do
Its does tho
cerulean wagon
it doesnt tho
prime kernel
@atomic pelican and its selling like hotcakes
cerulean wagon
especially with the pc game now
atomic pelican
Is it? I think It's a neat premise
But I've neve ractually heard of someone playing the tt
storm jungle
genestealers can easily overthrow necromunda if they wanted to, their entire organisation in general is OP as fuck with the right tools and such
open marsh
it doesnt tho
Then neither does Terra. Because hive worlds are all the same. Apparently
storm jungle
the writers just wrote them off as "oh yeah they got nuked" so the entire world isnt gone
atomic pelican
Yeah that's why the GSC in necromunda is just a splinter cult
open marsh
atomic pelican
P much any main 40k faction could goon necromunda, It's just that.. That's the point?? They're gangs
open marsh
the writers just wrote them off as "oh yeah they got nuked" so the entire world ...
Because Necromunda has so many other factions that would normally be world ending. All competiting. That noone can get ahead
cerulean wagon
terra is a different convo, seeing as it has custodes
which necromunda doesnt, it just has gangers
like... literaly every other planet
like not even just hive worlds all planets have gang problems
storm jungle
But necromunda is crazy
open marsh
which necromunda doesnt, it just has gangers
And that tells me you have no idea what even goes on in Necromunda
Its more than just gangs
cerulean wagon
so are other hive worlds
open marsh
Like Terra
cerulean wagon
necromunda does nothing unique
you have said it does and are yet to give an example
primal tide
It's B I G
cerulean wagon
open marsh
In getting a "pigeon" argument feeling from this.
Its hard to argue with an expert on something.
Its impossible to argue with an idiot on the same thing.
cerulean wagon
the biggest cities in all the lands
peak hamlet
Literally any hive world would do like necromunda does, only differences are planet size, number of hives and size of hive
storm jungle
In getting a "pigeon" argument feeling from this.
Its hard to argue with an ex...
You are literally the only person arguing against like 5 people here
atomic pelican
yes because you, medic, are the expert here
cerulean wagon
thats still not an example medic
storm jungle
atomic pelican
cerulean wagon
atomic pelican
I'd be embarrassed too if I was a "lore expert" and didn't get the most base things
storm jungle
Nobody here hates necromunda, we are just saying the realistic outcome of what would happen if the GSC weren't plot-kneecapped to not be able to do anything
peak hamlet
Lets stop this discussion here and move on yall!!!!
primal tide
I'd be embarrassed too if I was a "lore expert" and didn't get the most base thi...
Based
open marsh
Summary of the opposite:
Necromunda is like every other hive world. Just because....reasons. because we haven't actually bothered to read much on hive worlds. But we watched a YouTuber talk about it
open marsh
Not really
storm jungle
Yeah really
open marsh
You just said "because it is."
cerulean wagon
every hive world has gangs, every hive world produces gear and is big
cerulean wagon
there is nothing necromunda does that otherse dont
peak hamlet
Stop yall we arent archiving anything this way
open marsh
every hive world has gangs, every hive world produces gear and is big
Okay? Necromunda.is more that than you dense prick
atomic pelican
Hobo can you be a centrist somewhere else
peak hamlet
No angry eyes dilly
atomic pelican
Maybe grow a pair and come back?
cerulean wagon
explain what then medic
use ur face words
and not insults, oh benevolent expert
storm jungle
m e m e d a m u n d a
atomic pelican
peak hamlet
Guys he got his point and we got our point, neither of both parties is going to change anybodys minds
open marsh
explain what then medic
Genestealer cults. Chaos cults. Abominable Intelligences. Entire cultures backed up on engram chips trying to take over. Titans lost in the wastelands. Astartes fortress monestaries. Sisters of Battle priories.
And thats just the tip of the iceburg
atomic pelican
most hive cities have a GSC
cerulean wagon
so
atomic pelican
Terra has a GSC
cerulean wagon
hive city stuff
atomic pelican
There are cults basically everywhere
peak hamlet
its just a discussion hobo
This will go on for another hour if nobody stops lol
open marsh
hive city stuff
.......just wow
cerulean wagon
thats what discussions do
atomic pelican
And Necromunda's cult isn't even fully fledged lmao
cerulean wagon
🤷
atomic pelican
It's just a splinter cult of the larger cult that got destroyed taking another hivecity on the planet
That's why you can't run like, actual Magus/Primus' in the tt
wispy breach
isn't there also chaos cults on terra
atomic pelican
They'd own any of the gangs
peak hamlet
I give up 😔
atomic pelican
Probably
open marsh
This will go on for another hour if nobody stops lol
Always happens like this with skeleton
cerulean wagon
isn't there also chaos cults on terra
yeah
open marsh
Fuck it. I'm out
peak hamlet
Always happens like this with skeleton
Not limited to him
peak hamlet
Fuck it. I'm out
But yea
atomic pelican
I don't know what's more annoying, lore "experts", or people who only jump in to go "woah woah guys, let's all be friends, peace and love"
Literally grow a pair or let the door hit your ass on the way out
peak hamlet
I just don't see a point in trying to argue with somebody who obviously isn't capable right now of giving in
atomic pelican
It's the lore channel
That's the point
@peak hamlet Are you swedish, perchance?
peak hamlet
Nope
storm jungle
peak hamlet
Why should i
open marsh
I just don't see a point in trying to argue with somebody who obviously isn't ca...
There is no point. Hence why I stopped.
peak hamlet
Dont bring it up again yall
atomic pelican
I think what annoys me more is "omg skele is so toxic 😿 "
If you wanna start a fight with someone, just insult them or something
Don't do this spineless horse shit
primal tide
Only the worst people say skele is toxic, thank you bony boy for being the servers litmus test for shit takes
cerulean wagon
thanks, i think
peak hamlet
He sometimes can be a dick, yes, but everybody can and is a dick sometimes, no need to focus on skelly boi
atomic pelican
Skele's perfectly fine, only the whiners get on him
I was quoting them, not reciting
open marsh
I'm just saying. Every time I've said something on here. Skeleton immediately takes the opposite position and doesn't care what is said. That is the position he took and that means that's what it is. Full stop
atomic pelican
It's not just skeleton, It's because you say stupid bullshit.
Stop saying stupid bullshit and then you won't be jumped by 5 people
open marsh
Like what jackass?
atomic pelican
Literally everything heelboy
open marsh
Oh fucking great example genius
peak hamlet
Ughh we had this already, we arent even arguing about lore at this point
atomic pelican
open marsh
Yeah I'm blocking him
odd sparrow
yeesh
peak hamlet
How about yall just calm down for a few minutes?
primal tide
Darktide discord mondays always a trip
peak hamlet
Indeed
atomic pelican
peace and love gang has arrived
storm jungle
barren tapir
I prefer the name "reasonable discussion without insults" gang
atomic pelican
reasonable discussion lmao
peak hamlet
I prefer the name "reasonable discussion without insults" gang
This
atomic pelican
Debate club
storm jungle
Oh god sakes
Nobody insulted anybody, it was literally Medic fighting against like 6 of us lmao
thats all im gonna say on the matter
barren tapir
Look, i bet there are better places to insult people that aren't a lore channel on a public server
odd sparrow
,, reading over it it does sorta just look like medic got weirdly combative
atomic pelican
odd sparrow
i dont get it
primal tide
Shocked pikachu
final spruce
atomic pelican
peak hamlet
Just dm each other if you need to argue for the sake of arguing tbh
atomic pelican
lmao no
odd sparrow
gonna create an argument group dm sfuoijgbfsr
atomic pelican
Starting DMs just to fight someone
primal tide
👖 Gonna steal all the jeans on necromunda 👖
Those jeans are EXTRA B I G
atomic pelican
odd sparrow
it's kinda a flex tbh
peak hamlet
👖 Gonna steal all the jeans on necromunda 👖
Jokes on you im not wearing any rn
final spruce
What about kilt wearers ?
atomic pelican
peak hamlet
Indeed
primal tide
Jean shorts are jorts, jean skirts are.. jirts?
open marsh
Anyway. 40k stuff. Do we know of any other Thunder Warriors who were stabalized and inducted into the Astartes. Besides Endryd Haar and Autek Mor?
barren tapir
I have no info about those
open marsh
Its pretty cool. One of those background stories that's told in small bits across different books.
Summary is that Big E used Astartes geneseed to stabalize Thunder Warriors that he knew were psychologically stable enough to serve as one, and absolutely loyal to him so wouldn't be upset when he purged the majority of the TWs
peak hamlet
Sounds dope
barren tapir
I mean, i know some TW got inducted in SM legions, i just don't know if there are many, i knew of only one, a WE iirc
open marsh
Endryd Haar, of the War Hounds, is the most obvious example. Bigger, stronger, and faster than other Astartes. Had anger problems that rivaled those with the Butcher's Nails (despite not having them). Had scarring consistent with getting geneseed implants as an adult. Had tattoos common to the thunder warriors. And when he confronted an assassin (who was under Malcador's orders), the assassin said.
"I know that there are no nails in your skull. I know that your savagry comes from a deeper well. Tell me, Hound. Do you dream of thunder?"
barren tapir
Ah, a wasted opportunity to say "do you dream of unity?", since you know, unity was really important for the TW
open marsh
I mean, i know some TW got inducted in SM legions, i just don't know if there ar...
Autek Mor is similarly tho not as extensively hinted to have been one as well. Between his rage/aggressive personality. And general mannerism matching that of the Thunder Warriors (as well as being among the very first inducted into the legion. Much like Haar). His lore hints that even in universe the legion suspects his creation was somehow different than the others
open marsh
Ah, a wasted opportunity to say "do you dream of unity?", since you know, unity ...
Yeah that would have been great. But not as on the nose and direct as saying thunder
rose thorn
i wonder what will happen, or what it will look like when tau begin getting converted by chaos
open marsh
Already has started
rose thorn
oh really? id assume GW would either forget tau can be converted or make up some dumb reason they cant be converted
open marsh
In the newer Chaos codexes, or might have been in the Greater Good psychic awakening book, a Khornite invasion happens on a Tau world and the Tau themselves actually start succumbing to Khornite fury. Going berzerk. Tho the invasion was halted and etherals showed up and managed to restore the peace'
barren tapir
Heretic astartes codex, planet vior'la
open marsh
^
barren tapir
Anyone wanna read the thing?
open marsh
post it
open marsh
Cant wait for Chaos Battlesuits. With all the lovely spikey bits and skulls hanging from them
rose thorn
ooo that sounds awesome, i wonder what a chaos tau model would look like
And i wonder what chaos god they will be most attracted to
barren tapir
There was also a water caste tau that was possessed...
open marsh
And i wonder what chaos god they will be most attracted to
Well Khorne has made the first big move. Tho I think the first Tau to fall to chaos fell to Tzeentch?
barren tapir
Then there are the tau of the nyamar atoll who fought the death guard, i heard many thing about that fight, some say that the tau won, others that the death guard won, and that the DG wasn't really interested in killing tau... Psychic awakening have a short story about that
rose thorn
true, i kinda think slaanesh would be very interesting, it will probably be khorne though
open marsh
I dont see Slaanesh as being interested in them, due to their culture. They are a very reserved and subdued people
barren tapir
I mean, slaneesh seems extremely interested in warping what seems bland
open marsh
Normally she will target a group who are already pretty her style. Like the Emperor's Children legion
She will corrupt something bland into something more her style, but it wont be her first choice
rose thorn
its kinda weird that alot of the xeno races are either immune or like cant possibly interact with chaos
orks some (somehow) immune, and khrone jsut thinks they are funny and keeps some
necrons dont have souls
eldar are being eaten by slaanesh
tryanids are just immune
open marsh
Orkz are mostly immune because of Gork and Mork.
rose thorn
yea
open marsh
See, the Chaos gods dont want to mess with Gork or Mork (and especially not both of them)
rose thorn
i know that
open marsh
Love me orkies
final spruce
I know the stormboyz are usually the ones that are the most exposed to Khorne but they usually end up krumped by their fellow orks
rose thorn
i really like them too, i love how they are in the games
open marsh
With the nids. i think its because of their Shadow in the Warp. They have a sort of negative warp presence in large numbers
rose thorn
yea, i remember that the reason there are no GSC orks i because they are too calm and get krumped for it
barren tapir
The aren't orky enough
open marsh
GSC Ork: "Oy, lads. Maybe wez should stop foightin' and join together in brotha 'ood"
Regular Ork: bashes his head in "SHUT IT YA GROT"
final spruce
yea, i remember that the reason there are no GSC orks i because they are too cal...
rose thorn
there use to be ones though form like forever ago, now i think its just fan stuff
atomic pelican
Yeah GS orks exist but they're pretty easily 'tell-able' by other orkz since they're weird
cerulean wagon
atomic pelican
rose thorn
i kinda wanna make a tau kill team of like, non tau races, like a misfits style, like a tau eldar, a human, a kroot, and probably like 2 other races
final spruce
You'd have more chance with a rogue trader team
rose thorn
true, i honestly forgot rogue trader was a thing
primal tide
i kinda wanna make a tau kill team of like, non tau races, like a misfits style,...
Truly a misfit caste of characters
final spruce
Truly a misfit caste of characters
coarse mirage
In the newer Chaos codexes, or might have been in the Greater Good psychic awake...
Fire warriors did, as they are inherently more ragey
coarse mirage
I'll cover you face, with a pillow
open marsh
Please
cloud kindle
still wonder if any of the tau that fought the death guard became infected and returned home
nurgle only needs the one
barren tapir
I have no concrete info, but it is highly possible to me tha yes, the death guard wasn't really interested in killing the tau on the neyma atoll and more in infecting them...
cerulean wagon
i doubt it only from the o
perspective of tau would fucking die if that happened
visual pumice
it says in the codex for death guard that the ones that fight the tau, pallid hand i think, just hate them for prospering and want to spite them for finding hope or some shit
storm jungle
as an architect im offended
visual pumice
fat man in armour is going to critique your work
odd sparrow
It kinda makes sense, nurgle is meant to loathe hopeful things
hence why tzeentch is a fuckboy
open marsh
Who needs low maintence and redundant/passive systems when you have aesthetics
open marsh
Yeah but you know what i mean
storm jungle
reeee
but yeah i get it, just my personal preference i think
also helps me write my essays easier in uni
open marsh
Oh I love minimalist styles. They can just be so impractical sometimes
Yeah, that flat roof looks nice and makes a great deck in the summer.....but you built it in a cold enviroment, so when it snows the roof will strain under the weight
I remember my ex wanted us to buy a house with a very steep roof. When we lived in a humid/sub-tropical enviroment.
No snow
I was like 
Its because she watched some viking show on history channel and was making all her preferences based on that
open marsh
Yeah. if I was in a colder enviroment. It doesnt make much sense in the swamps of Mississippi
Long houses also tend to be built just as much underground as above ground (to use the earth as insulation). But the ground in Mississippi is way to soft/wet. The basement will quickly start to leak
A reason I moved out of Mississippi is I wasnt a fan of the house styles that work best there
barren tapir
I'm not an expert on architecture, but i like the functional/minimalist style... I don't know if exist really such a style tbh...
peak hamlet
I like gothic architecture
barren tapir
It seems that what i like is part of modern architecture
open marsh
I'm not an expert on architecture, but i like the functional/minimalist style......
It does. Its just difficult. Tho traditional styles stay around for awhile for a reason. They tend to be better optimized for the local environment. Even if they look....boring
barren tapir
Not to me, they don't look boring, the look optimized...
cursive hull
Gothic architecture is great... I'm even okay with the Brutalist style the Soviets used.
It just doesn't fit in everywhere though.
barren tapir
Agree
open marsh
Early human colonies in the DAoT probably looked like scifi Soviet cities
This, but more tech
Everything made from a standard template
vast frigate
Yeah
vast frigate
''See comrade, it is insulate, prevent fire AND Cause cancer.''
cursive hull
From memory, Russia has produced the most Asbestos out of every country, and still uses it the most.
The people in the towns that make it don't view it as harmful, at least, not very harmful.
cerulean wagon
tbf the entire world used asbestos insulation
vast frigate
yep
cerulean wagon
its still being removed in the uk to this day
peak hamlet
This, but more tech
I kinda like this for some odd reason.
vast frigate
asbestos production is quite shite, tbh, but yeah we are removing it here as well
cursive hull
And Asbestos gas mask filters
cursive hull
I kinda like this for some odd reason.
Uniformity can be pleasing to the eye.
vast frigate
i like industrialized and colder enviroments tho
cursive hull
Kinda sorta the same reason snow is pretty.
peak hamlet
Uniformity can be pleasing to the eye.
Indeed
vast frigate
my own room looks like the start to a machine hall
peak hamlet
But also the "feeling" that picture has
cursive hull
Russia and plenty of the Old Soviet bloc is... Grim.
barren tapir
i like industrialized and colder enviroments tho
+1
barren tapir
my own room looks like the start to a machine hall
I wish mine would look like a little workshop too
cursive hull
Like, Russia has a particular mental attitude lots of countries just do not share.
You can just feel it in the nation and its people.
peak hamlet
Man i love snowy pictures, i would love to sit on a roof there, just watching the two towers in the background spitting out smoke for hours
barren tapir
^^
cursive hull
In fairness, I feel like Ukraine has that same feel to it.
But most old soviet bloc nations have it to some extent or another.
barren tapir
I think it is the idea of peace and stillness that snow induce that make those places interesting
peak hamlet
I think it is the idea of peace and stillness that snow induce that make those p...
This
Hard to put it in words
dim totem
Question
How many doat buildings would you see on any world?
They must stand out like a sore thumb between all he gothic architecture
cerulean wagon
A fair few seeing as they'd just be pretty generic habs
cursive hull
Depends.
cerulean wagon
Not everything in 40k is gothic, just a lot of it is
peak hamlet
I mean depends from world to world, some are more gothic architecture while others are just plain functional hab blocks
storm jungle
Yeah its the oversaturation of the Imperium
since they're the poster faction all you see is gothic
Its the same reason why I roll my eyes when people say the xenos factions dont fit the setting
cerulean wagon
Thats the thing dilara
storm jungle
when, you know, they're suppose to look different?
cerulean wagon
not even the entirety of the imperium is hyper gothic
some worlds just look normal, with a few gothic style churches scattered across
cursive hull
Its mostly just Terra and a few other key worlds, isn't it?
barren tapir
Like with a lot of things: it depend on the world
peak hamlet
There are a lot of "gothic" elements but not everything looks like a church
barren tapir
Elysia probably look like our terra
cerulean wagon
You can even see it a little with the darktide trailer we saw
with the shabby little hab
and the industrial area in under the flood lighting
open marsh
my own room looks like the start to a machine hall
I live in a repurposed grain mill/factory. My apartments walls are unpainted concrete. Its very nice
peak hamlet
I wish i could live in a timbered house
open marsh
It be nice <@!237268583149731840>
Aw yiss.
barren tapir
I live in a repurposed grain mill/factory. My apartments walls are unpainted con...
This sound interesting
No such things here
peak hamlet
Except annoying stuff like fucking cold in winter, problems getting calbes and stuff where they need to go, have fun fixing damage, ect ect
They just look fucking sick
barren tapir
But here we didn't and we don't have many industry too
peak hamlet
Why cant we just move to a fairly huge island and start from ground up again
open marsh
Except annoying stuff like fucking cold in winter, problems getting calbes and s...
Wiring is no issue. Everything is wired via industrial conduits
dim totem
What do you mean we
peak hamlet
Wiring is no issue. Everything is wired via industrial conduits
I was talking a timbered house
barren tapir
There are huge pieces of lands "free" in the US i think... But i think i would prefer to move to mountains
open marsh
I was talking a timbered house
Oh screw wooden houses
peak hamlet
Oh screw wooden houses
Yeah, they look sick but are probably hell to live in
open marsh
Too many insect and vermin infestations
peak hamlet
Perhaps just get a regular house and make its walls and roof look like timbered
open marsh
My folks house has an insane ant infestation issue. Like you'll find them climbing out of the power outlets
peak hamlet
Holy shit
open marsh
Crazy ants don't give a fuuuuuck
peak hamlet
We got a allotment garden with a wodden house and one day we entered just to discover hundreds of dead wasps who crawled through a hole in the wall and had no way getting back
Insects are fucking stupid
open marsh
Wasps are fucking stupid
They are God's drunken bender after a bad day at work gift to us
Wasps are just flying jackasses
open marsh
Yeah they are just assholes
Raise chickens. When you find a wasp nest, knock it down and feed it to them. Chickens love wasp and hornet larve
peak hamlet
Yikes
open marsh
Turn a jackass wasp infestation into free chicken feed
peak hamlet
Also pigs eat and digest bones iirc
odd sparrow
noted
,, now im worried for the beehive in my garden
hopefully the chickens cant climb bins
peak hamlet
😳
open marsh
They can't. But they can kinda hop-fly
But normally they won't attack a nest on their own
odd sparrow
I have one really flighty bird who like
cleared half of the field earlier
i'm sorta impressed
open marsh
As long as you don't knock the hive down. It should be okay
Also. Protip. To fight the flying jackasses bring a shopvac type vacuum cleaner and vacuum them up before attempting to remove the nest
Then leave the shopvac for like a week or so they all dehydrate to death
tiny nova
Or vaccum raid up if it's a wet vac
bright rampart
Every time I look in this channel it seems like anything but Warhammer lore is being discussed lmao
That being said it's still very entertaining
open marsh
Gotta love how it evolved from Tau....to killing wasps
:v
There is Vespid joke in there somewhere
eternal ledge
LOL
cursive hull
T'au method: take great effort to move the wasps nest somewhere else far from your home without hurting them.
Imperial Method:
coarse mirage
in AoS, are the beastmen chummy with the uruk? They seem to be sorta about the same thing
atomic pelican
Beastmen tend to be chaos aligned so no
I believe there are non-chaos aligned beastmen, but they aren't mentioned much
cursive hull
They still tend to be isolationist though
Chaos or no, they prefer their own company
atomic pelican
Yee
The only non-chaos beastmen I can remember in AoS, I believe I remember seeing a short story/mention of some beastmen going to Hysh to get light's enlightenment
Then being killed by the Lumineth
Altho they might've just been tzeentch corrupted and after that Knowledge
Can't quite remember
plucky moth
Knawlij
cloud kindle
https://tenor.com/view/knowledge-tai-lopez-lamborghini-gif-19251888
this trigged my flight or fight
cursive hull
lol, why?
cloud kindle
now i remember
i was a stoner and thought this was the funniest shit
okay drears still made me chuckle
median sundial
No one truly answered my question on what Bone Cutters are. It's the name of a story by Darius Hinks in a Black Library Anthology book, and from what I've read they're some kind of.... thing released on Imperial Worlds for some reason or another. And they're the possible reason why a guy's corpse in the story had no bones.
The description on the back says ''the bone-cutters'' so that leads me to believe it's a class of automaton or a group that is bone related.
cloud kindle
i blame flayers
elfin isle
I'm deep into Gaunt's Ghosts, and it's daim good. It's the perfect book to get in the mood for DT. I'm hyped AF
primal tide
I gotta read that series at some point
open marsh
found a cool thing
primal tide
storm jungle
open marsh
peak hamlet
Perfection
storm jungle
cerulean wagon
make it spin
peak hamlet
Id like to imagine that other guard regiments get clothing and armor but these just get a lasgun and are then sent to the frontline
storm jungle
Jokes aside im pretty sure they are
their original picture has the lasgun conveniently blocking their groin Austin Powers style
its probably just the artist of this pic missing the memo
peak hamlet
their original picture has the lasgun conveniently blocking their groin Austin P...
Smart
odd sparrow
Just show us the dong you cowards
cerulean wagon
regiments are given standard equipment but its up to their world what they actually use
so prob tradition to go naked
not the weirdest war doctrine
peak hamlet
Did we see any dicks even in the slightest in any 40k art yet
odd sparrow
Sacrifice armour for 20% physical resistance
open marsh
Id like to imagine that other guard regiments get clothing and armor but these j...
Yah. its the motto that "Belief Will Conquer Bullets". So they think their faith in the Emperor works better than armour
odd sparrow
Pog
peak hamlet
*official ones ofc
odd sparrow
Did we see any dicks even in the slightest in any 40k art yet
Plenty of fanart
cerulean wagon
ofc not lmao
odd sparrow
Esp as it concerns fulgrim
peak hamlet
Yah. its the motto that "Belief Will Conquer Bullets". So they think their faith...
Oof
cerulean wagon
official art is used for advertising
peak hamlet
Plenty of fanart
Yeaaah well lets ignore those
odd sparrow
Alright yall
storm jungle
Plenty of fanart
iirc we do but its like some really old marine gene-implantation art with a classic X-spread pose showing the naked right and the mechanised left side
storm jungle
hung? 
cerulean wagon
depends
odd sparrow
He's too insecure and dumb, no BDE
peak hamlet
iirc we do but its like some really old marine gene-implantation art with a clas...
I remember that one!
odd sparrow
Yea ofc, relatively
atomic pelican
Big e smooth like a ken doll
odd sparrow
I buy it
storm jungle
Nah he has a dick
odd sparrow
The supreme ace
open marsh
spess scotsmen
storm jungle
odd sparrow
Not to insult aces
atomic pelican
Master of mankind
storm jungle
then again the only evidence we have of him making kids is the Sensei
god knows how many men and women he slept with to make that
odd sparrow
I question the logistics
cerulean wagon
odd sparrow
Like
odd sparrow
Maybe he just makes himself smaller?
storm jungle
SDKJDFSKJ
odd sparrow
Cus emperor
odd sparrow
yes
storm jungle
yes
cerulean wagon
he can make himself smaller but i think big e being huge is a lie
odd sparrow
Variable
cerulean wagon
bet hes like 5'2
storm jungle
Yeah hes normal man sized iirc
atomic pelican
Manlet
visual pumice
He’s 3’5
storm jungle
even though the art makes him look like the statue of fucking liberty
cerulean wagon
na thats incan
atomic pelican
1" tall
odd sparrow
He's a 5'2 ugly anatolian dude who wills himself into being gigachad
visual pumice
He’s wearing heels
odd sparrow
The emperor is into the sigma male stuff
cursive hull
I think the idea is that Big E uses his psychic powers to look larger.
I always like to imagine him as just some guy from Anatolia who looks like... Some guy from anatolia.
odd sparrow
Big E is actually dilara pog
visual pumice
Epic
storm jungle
WHA-
peak hamlet
No dick :(
visual pumice
Dump truck but 😳
peak hamlet
Indeed
storm jungle
odd sparrow
Idk his ass isn't great
storm jungle
I was the real Memepress all along
odd sparrow
Not bad
peak hamlet
Oh no my pic got blurry 😔
storm jungle
also yeah that art is close
visual pumice
Memepress of Mankind
odd sparrow
Malc > big e
Gonna bonk ppl with the staff sigil thing
That's what u get also ur hair is on fire now sangy
odd sparrow
Exactly
open marsh
No dick :(
There is. its just hard to see over his leg muscle
odd sparrow
Precisely
storm jungle
now keep inserting those cables into his flesh
open marsh
No dick :(
odd sparrow
NO
peak hamlet
Ooooo
cursive hull
...Insane crazy violence, body horror, insane gore... All good.
storm jungle
LETS GOOOOO
cursive hull
But reference the human anatomy? Nope.
odd sparrow
Tbh it's not just the Western world, tho u can probs blame Christianity for a lot of the weird attitude towards anything sexual
peak hamlet
But reference the human anatomy? Nope.
Yeah thats pretty stupid
open marsh
Yes yes yes
There was a comment in the novel "The Emperor's GIft" where a female inquisitor saw a Grey Knight bathing and commented that he was hung AF
odd sparrow
And a very broad interpretation of sexual too
storm jungle
Tbh it's not just the Western world, tho u can probs blame Christianity for a lo...
Also as I once learned from Tarantino, as long as you also dont make blood red in a movie you can literally douse your actors in its gore and the censors wont mind it
its so silly
odd sparrow
Female presenting nipple tfw
peak hamlet
There was a comment in the novel "The Emperor's GIft" where a female inquisitor ...
Holy shit im dying rn 😂
odd sparrow
,,, green gore?
odd sparrow
Big brain
storm jungle
where the vampires never bleed red so they can get away with a lot of the censorship
open marsh
Holy shit im dying rn 😂
peak hamlet
But like thanks to this marines image and their average height we can calculate this dudes schlong length
👀
open marsh
But like thanks to this marines image and their average height we can calculate ...
Answer: "DAAAAMMMMNNNN BOI"
open marsh
open marsh
storm jungle
LETS GO MARINES
cursive hull
peak hamlet
https://i.redd.it/vi1uvvd2bqoy.jpg
Lmfao
odd sparrow
He angy
visual pumice
so marines do have penor, they don't know anything about secks though
cursive hull
I still follow the "It just doesn't work" line of thinking.
peak hamlet
I will now proceed to take a nap, if i wake up tomorrow we need the space marine dick length fanfics to continue until incan bans us all
cursive hull
And or they've mentally decided it just isn't very important.
storm jungle
Jokes aside in lore its almost never brought up because of the "sexuality bad" trope of fiction.
open marsh
so marines do have penor, they don't know anything about secks though
Pretty much.
cursive hull
Also yes.
storm jungle
Realistically speaking even if they know how to use it im sure it changes from chapter to chapter lol
Some are like "no i dont know what it does" to "brrrr"
visual pumice
storm jungle
open marsh
I know they can have kids in the Space Wolves until they finish getting the geneseed implants / hyponoindoctrinations
odd sparrow
if space wolves are also immune to STIs then that opens up many possibilities
cursive hull
Meanwhile in the Imperial Guard.
storm jungle
open marsh
@peak hamletFigured out the average length yet?
molten marsh
L O N G
storm jungle
that username sums this up well
cerulean wagon
my head cannon will remain as acid nut
storm jungle
no u
vapid tiger
going into random 40k servers and looking up "grimderp" is a fun exercise
storm jungle
going into random 40k servers and looking up "grimderp" is a fun exercise
I got scolded on reddit for even saying that word
"ya dont know what it means kid!"
vapid tiger
i do think it's overused
vapid tiger
The thing is that the "stupid parts" vary from person to person, so I just avoid the term altogether and just call the actually stupidly bad shit "bad"
Blood knights is stupid writing for example
but stuff like macroshells being manually loaded by massive slave crews who spend their entire lives hauling gigantic shells? Complaining about stuff like that is kind of missing the point
cursive hull
(In fairness, not every Imperial ship does that.)
open marsh
Things are rarely as grimderp as people think.
Killing a bunch of Guardsmen because they might be chaos corrupted: non grimderp
Killing Sisters of Battle to use their blood to make the most pure Astartes somehow purer? That's grimderp
storm jungle
I can never forget the Quake Cannon
"execute anyone near it after it fires because it drives them insane"
like lmao
vapid tiger
I've seen it used just as often to describe things that just highlight the imperium's stupidity and backwardness (because some people want the imperium to be some weirdo fantasy for them where everything is fine and dandy akshully) as much as it gets used to describe just plain stupid shit
cursive hull
There is such a thing as too stupid for the Imperium.
storm jungle
Which is even acknowledged too mind you
like the Inquisition and the GK actively killing witnesses DURING a massive chaos attack on a forge world system
even the codex says "Yeah as you can see reader thats grimderp but with reason"
cursive hull
After is one thing, but during?
cursive hull
Quick, lose the planet as quickly as possible!
storm jungle
because GK are already cringe
vapid tiger
I mean yeah
cursive hull
Blam blam blam
vapid tiger
Oftentimes there's stuff where you go "huh why would the imperium do that it seems kind of illogical" but then you realize "oh wait that's the point"
storm jungle
Yeah its an incredibly blurry line because sometimes the lore really is just stupid
but i get your point 100%
cursive hull
I mean, yeah
They should sometimes defy logic.
But there becomes a point where it goes against the point
cerulean wagon
The imperium is backwards but that doesnt mean we can't draw a line between showing them as backwards and lazy writing
cursive hull
Anything that makes it look like the Imperium is actively attempting to lose, that crosses a line.
cerulean wagon
to protect us from the chaos mind control rays
vapid tiger
sometimes it's lazy yep but I've seen a guy come into a discord and start complaining about commissars executing people as "grimderp" because "40k is a serious military scifi setting"
vast frigate
to protect us from the chaos mind control rays
theyre turning the frogs tzeentch!
cerulean wagon
storm jungle
sometimes it's lazy yep but I've seen a guy come into a discord and start compla...
Thats also really blurry
i think its a case of the stupid BLAM memes ruining that
any commissar that trigger happy would be dead in the morning lol
cerulean wagon
sometimes it's lazy yep but I've seen a guy come into a discord and start compla...
I think the differentiation is knowing it happens, or thinking its the only thing commissars do
vast frigate
any commissar that trigger happy would be dead in the morning lol
This.
Weve seen lore representations of squads ''losing'' their commissar
storm jungle
1 sec lads
vapid tiger
It was just "knowing it happens"
storm jungle
allow me
cursive hull
Commissars were a thing, but like...
vast frigate
Yeah we dunno sir, he just never woke up
cerulean wagon
some people rail waay too hard against it but i do agree some of the commissar stuff is just blegh
vast frigate
''With a hole in his head?''
Yeap, not a clue
storm jungle
cursive hull
People flanderize Commissars
vapid tiger
I think the memes overdo it
storm jungle
cursive hull
They don't just shoot people.*
storm jungle
vast frigate
pretty much
cerulean wagon
vapid tiger
But at the same time there's a point where you gotta acknowledge that the setting is ott and not a super serious military scifi setting
cerulean wagon
Basically krug if you see grimderp used here its usually with just cause
vast frigate
Like, commissars shooting people for morale is only in fucking, 40/1 situations where theres nids on the left, chaos on the right and the imperium in the middle
cerulean wagon
like the SM chapter that kidnap women and keep them for breeding we found recently
a loyal chapter mind
vapid tiger
also that same guy kept talking about the imperium as "something to aspire towards" so that was just weirdness in general
cursive hull
WHAT
vapid tiger
like the SM chapter that kidnap women and keep them for breeding we found recent...
Yeah that's dumb
That's just creepy writing
cerulean wagon
yuuup
vast frigate
''Your genes are pure enough, we will implant you with see🅱️ and you will enjoy bearing superb soldier child destined to probably die. Oh and do it over until you perish of overstrain''
cerulean wagon
also that same guy kept talking about the imperium as "something to aspire towar...
yeah people who believe that are just wrong
vapid tiger
He kept calling them "good guys" and saying "the point of 40k is to see marines purge mutants and heretics and xenos" whenever people would go "it's not good at all"
cursive hull
But 40k too
vast frigate
its the same as Invicincibles to me
cerulean wagon
vast frigate
Err... the other way around
If you go long enoughj, there are no good guys anymore
everyone is fucked up
vast frigate
just think for a moment right How many fucked up things your own mind can come up with.
Now imagine there are 8 billion people on the planet.
cursive hull
He kept calling them "good guys" and saying "the point of 40k is to see marines ...
Sounds like a Fash
vast frigate
Now copy that to a universe with nearly a million imperial planets, probably a few 10 of billions on every planet
cursive hull
Or one of those Ethnostate fuckheads.
vapid tiger
Sounds like a Fash
He had a black sun polandball pfp. Definitely was
cursive hull
Ugh
cerulean wagon
egh
cursive hull
The only thing really in need of purging around here are the Fascists.
open marsh
He had a black sun polandball pfp. Definitely was
I know exactly who you are talking about
cerulean wagon
was he also a krieg fan
vapid tiger
I know exactly who you are talking about
Yep
vapid tiger
was he also a krieg fan
Idk he got banned
cerulean wagon
yes it does elyksis
vapid tiger
He sure liked black templars tho
vast frigate
a pistol with a fully automatic 50cal output
stop please
My arms hurt at the mere idea
cursive hull
Isn't the Macro stubber an Ad Mech weapon?
vast frigate
This type of antique weapon is used by Adeptus Mechanicus Tech-Priests and is able to hurl out a thunderous cloud of solid slugs.[12]
cursive hull
I mean, if you're a guy with cyborg arms, you don't really have to worry about having tired arms.
vast frigate
same as the stubcarbine
The stubcarbine, though small, has the stopping power of the heavy stubbers mounted on the vehicles of the Astra Militarum. When a squad of Sicarian Infiltrators opens fire with these weapons, the air fills with a avalanche of solid shot that chews their victims to shreds.[13]
the macrostubber is stronger than the stubcarbine
cursive hull
shrug
If you've got arms that can hold onto such a thing, do it.
No reason not to.
vast frigate
True
im going through pistols and am wondering for my cosplay
and im reminded these monsters exist
atomic pelican
Its alwaya the templar fans
cursive hull
I feel bad for people who like the Templars for their melee slant.
Because they gotta rub shoulders with disgusting people.
vast frigate
Yeah its sad
cursive hull
Still makes me sad that the very nature of the 40k fandom makes it so susceptible to Fascists walking in.
Tankies, Fascists, doesn't matter.
Get the hell out of my fandom 
cerulean wagon
its susceptible to every bad group, but thats basically every fandom
atomic pelican
Dont be sad. Be happy as they get pushed out and get buttmad
cerulean wagon
fandoms suck, reset the universe
atomic pelican
Because its def better than it was 5 years ago
primal tide
Enjoy them getting clapped everytime they mask off in this server
primal tide
Lmao
storm jungle
Also im late but
What is the deal with Templar fans?
I never met any but how bad are they lol
🗒️ I need it for my notes
atomic pelican
You know the memes abt krieg fans?
storm jungle
Oh god
atomic pelican
Like that but like, 60% worse
vapid tiger
Those who actually play templars are usually okay
cerulean wagon
basically dilara you know how the weirdos cling to the imperium and krieg for racism tendencies
vapid tiger
But their fanbase does not solely encompass that
cerulean wagon
Black templars are basically xenophobia given physical form
atomic pelican
Thise who play the actual game tend to be okay in general. Since playing the tabletop requires some level of social modem
cerulean wagon
and they are edgy black n white with red
final spruce
Looks liked I missed some Cringehammer
vapid tiger
I like templars because of how fucking insane and awful they are
final spruce
From my experience playing tabletop I only ever met 1 that guy
vapid tiger
But the imagery and zeal can definitely lead to weirdos latching onto them
final spruce
He played SM plastic grey
atomic pelican
The Greys
vapid tiger
The greys
atomic pelican
The worst fandom
vapid tiger
Unpainted models are always a red flag
final spruce
Most fun I had playing ttp was old Drukhari
final spruce
It felt balanced lmao
cursive hull
...I wish I had money for paints
atomic pelican
Thats a grudging
cursive hull
No, because I don't play, I just have unpainted models, lol.
cerulean wagon
cursive hull
(Well, some of them are painted, I have a few Death Skulls Orks)
Which are garbage because they were my first attempt.
...At least I thinned my paints
atomic pelican
Painting horde armies can be grinding
Fortunately stores arent open to play so Im not in a esp hurry
cursive hull
https://youtu.be/vddEvqS6M4o?t=113 That feel when you go into the cringe pit
atomic pelican
I grinded out all my neophytes tho
final spruce
Still waiting on that 19th
cursive hull
I plan to seriously paint an Ad Mech army one day
final spruce
So I can buy those Gaunts Ghosts at the local shop
dim totem
Dumbass question
An you make a successor chapter of a successor chapter?
I doubt that's how it works
peak hamlet
I think so
dim totem
Thanks a bunch
odd sparrow
Ye i understand that chapters sorta cascade like that
the successor of the successor of the successor of the successor of the imperial fists
colonialist hands
open marsh
Its rare
Tiger Claws (Astral Claws), Crimson Axes & Skull Bearers (Executioners)
Can't really think of anyone else
vapid tiger
Those are the examples given to us
We can safely assume that it's rare but that there's definitely more than just the three or four that are listed given that most chapters are unnamed Your Dudes territory
strange depot
Skull Beavers would be a cool Khorne unit
vapid tiger
if you want a chapter you're writing to be a successor of a successor or have a successor itself go ahead as long as it's not too crazy
strange depot
they make sense too, need to dam up all that blood
it would just be havoc otherwise
strange depot
Hydro Electricity BITCHES!
odd sparrow
tbh it would be stupid for that kind of thing to not be common
it's been 10k years and chapters can get wiped out by a single battle barge getting turned to scrap like cmon
the fact that so many ancient chapters still exist is just rule of cool, given the amount of time passed
storm jungle
That and successors usually exist to die and make more popular chapters look good.
Like who could forget such great chapters that perished during the great 5th Black Crusade such as uh
or maybe
strange depot
I mean the whole chapter is rarely on the one ship
cerulean wagon
fantastic
strange depot
and a lot of the successor chapters exist purely for colour schemes
just like the Exiled and the Lost are mysterious so you can invent your own primarch progenitor
storm jungle
Nah thats not true
the lost Primarchs are just lost, even the people that came up with the lost legions say it wasnt anything related to making your own chapter, its apparently just a rumor the fans conjured up out of theories over the years
but if they wanna go with it all the more power to them
strange depot
fair enough
storm jungle
but successors are basically Grunt Marines, you can just throw them and make them die at the hand of some enemy to make them look good
only the popular ones like the Lamenters or Flesh Tearers usually get a good spotlight
usually
strange depot
the Lamenters are mostly popular for them meme now, they were dead until they decided to revive them with Guilliman, there is that dreadnaught in the deathwatch who was supposed to be the last lamenter
storm jungle
Yeah but they're still around because they're popular
strange depot
aren't the flesh tearers gone now?
storm jungle
Nope still kicking due to the fans
strange depot
didn't they die fighting Scar... guy
the demon that keeps following the blood angels around
final spruce
Scarbrand ?
storm jungle
Kabandha is the one that simps for Sanguinius
Scarbrand idk tho
999.M41: The Flesh Tearers are the first to heed Commander Dante's call for aid in defending Baal from simultaneous invasions by Hive Fleet Leviathan and a daemon army led by Ka'Bandha, dispatching their entire chapter without hesitation.[5b] The Flesh Tearers fought against the Tyranids alongside the Blood Angels in the subsequent Devastation of Baal. The battle further dwindled the Chapters numbers, reducing them from barely a third of a Codex Chapter to no more than a Company at best.
oof
Bugged
atomic pelican