#40k-lore-chat

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storm jungle
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YOUR ENTIRE ARMY IS ABOUT BREEDING

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TALK ABOUT THE GENESTEALER CALLING THE NID PURPLE

atomic pelican
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yeah but it's not about rape lul

cerulean wagon
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lul

storm jungle
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it is

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well okay

atomic pelican
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it isnt

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no

storm jungle
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technically for the first person

atomic pelican
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it literally isnt

storm jungle
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others are consensual monster orgies

atomic pelican
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no

final spruce
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You know how space marine chapter like to steal xenos specialty like psyker or rapid strike ?

atomic pelican
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not even for the firs tperson

storm jungle
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yes

atomic pelican
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The first person is p much just the equal of facehugged

final spruce
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I feel those tried to steal drukhari

cerulean wagon
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lmaaao

storm jungle
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But yeah sorry onut

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dark eldar are good

atomic pelican
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They are

cerulean wagon
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ngl

atomic pelican
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but they aren't written like that

storm jungle
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They are

cerulean wagon
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i like DE aesthetic

atomic pelican
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they arent

cerulean wagon
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and hate their lore

storm jungle
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they literally

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drill holes in the skeleton of a still alive dark eldar

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so wind passes through them

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and causes him more pain

atomic pelican
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Torture and rape are different

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There isn't a written instance of drukhari rape, because It's in bad taste lmao

cerulean wagon
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real space raids are literaly the above

storm jungle
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Pretty much yeah

atomic pelican
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no

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not for breeding lmao

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For torture stock yes

storm jungle
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Yeah jokes aside they breed WITH their wives

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they are good adults

cerulean wagon
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in some cases yes for breeding

storm jungle
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trueborn need to be poppeed outta the ovens

atomic pelican
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are you like

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implying that drukhari can breed with humans??

storm jungle
plucky moth
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I'm willing to find out

atomic pelican
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o my

storm jungle
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Incan is the true man here

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get em

plucky moth
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oh I just meant I'll google it

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I'm a taken man

storm jungle
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DAMN IT

final spruce
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Lmao

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Baited

plucky moth
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hmm so according to a quick search, no they can't

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BUT if I search images, they totally can

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idk what to believe

storm jungle
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Yall are lucky this is a SFW server

final spruce
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Its 40k so both

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Please dont share your pornstash here

storm jungle
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I want to tho

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but I respect incan so i wont

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lucky bastards

final spruce
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I dont want to see the 490Go drukhari bdsm x gsc

storm jungle
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I dont have that in my stash but i can get it later

primal tide
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nobody believed her

grand minnow
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The fuck we talkin bout?

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final spruce
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Do i need to prehentively block you so my pm box is safe ?

rotund siren
# grand minnow The fuck we talkin bout?

The conversation has devolved slightly from its origin, where Dilara posted an excerpt of Death Spectres, who kidnap women from across the galaxy as breeding stock

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Death Spectres being SM

storm jungle
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Very evil dudes

rotund siren
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grimderp but make it morally repugnant-er

final spruce
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Its worded exactly how I expected it to be

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And even then im still disgusted

obtuse vault
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im coming in here to smack whoever talked about r*pe apparently

rotund siren
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yeah...

obtuse vault
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like

storm jungle
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the Marines did it

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The Death Spectre released her, and she tumbled back into the dirt, instinctively reaching out to touch Husim. He was so still. Quintus didn’t even check his scanner. ‘Subject rejected,’ he intoned. ‘Injuries fatal.’

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I'm an innocent bystander

obtuse vault
grand minnow
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Like gamesworkshop with non space marines, ill ignore it

storm jungle
final spruce
storm jungle
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But yeah wew

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I cant even find it dark

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its just hilariously bad and shitty

obtuse vault
plucky moth
obtuse vault
lunar horizon
rotund siren
distant parcel
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solstice mr channel police lol

storm jungle
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Mr Crusade doesnt feel so good

open marsh
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And thus is the way of all online only games

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They die

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While singleplayer games are eternal

rotund siren
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unless it's from an old console and doesn't get emulated

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;-;

open marsh
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Still immortal, 'slong as you have that console

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plays Yoshi's Island on his SNES

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almost 30 years later and this game is still a banger

coarse mirage
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Now you've hurt hteir feelings

median sundial
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Minor spoilers for HG, but playing the Cold Black reminded me how utterly massive Genestealers are. Like to a normal human being those Xenomorph wannabes tower over them and move about as fast as a rat. When people say 40k is horror from the viewpoint of the humans I think this is what they meant.

open marsh
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Yup

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And they can drop you in like 3 hits. Would be 1 maybe 2, if you didnt have a refractor field

cursive hull
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Normal humans have it bad

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Its pretty much just a truism at this point.

open marsh
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Yeah

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Luckily they still go down just as easily. Because bolter :u

median sundial
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Bolters solve everything, all you gotta do is change the size.

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What is the deal with Ambots? I know for a fact it can't be AI, that and the fact Necromunda gangs constantly modify the shit outta them.

cursive hull
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Wat

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Oh

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Ambulls but bionic?

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Fuck if I know.

crisp heath
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it suppresses basically everything but their instinct to dig, then they are programmed to follow simple orders/be controllable by the user

median sundial
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Ah.

crisp heath
# median sundial Ah.

I would assume they can become more aggressive as their programming dictates some degree of self preservation/the tech suppressing them breaks as well

median sundial
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Well I mean I'd be pretty crossed too if my will had been suppressed in a place I don't even remember going to.

peak hamlet
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They are meant for excavation

crisp heath
open marsh
crisp heath
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Is there any lore about converting human corpses into edible food in 40k and is it remotely realistic/feasible?

rotund siren
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yup

storm jungle
rotund siren
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corpsestarch

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but not realistic at all

storm jungle
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Yeah because the entire aspect of eating humans is uhealthy iirc

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like no joke intended, doctors actually say this about cannibalism lol

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but again i guess thats the irony of it

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🥩

rotund siren
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there's also stuff like, if a human eats a human who ate human who ate a human and so on and so forth, sooner rather than later, there wouldn't be much, if any, energy to gain from that, iirc

storm jungle
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Yeah its pretty much just surface level stuff of some writer going "Man, turning corpses into food sounds pretty dark lets add that in"

rotund siren
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yeah

crisp heath
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I was afraid of that

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In that MadMax game that came out a few years ago, people feed corpses to flies then eat the maggots, I don't know how realistic that would be either though

rotund siren
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I guess it would be a bit healthier?

crisp heath
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I regret this knowledge

crisp heath
atomic pelican
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Maggot farms are a real thing and yeah

crisp heath
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wow

atomic pelican
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Its pretty much about some very weird digestive stuff relating to humans

crisp heath
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I knew you could eat bugs but wouldn't there, for lack of a better word, be bits of human meat in the maggots?

atomic pelican
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P much our digestion is flawed to only take a certain amount of energy out

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Oh i mean, real maggot farms dont use human corpses

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But theyd work in theory

crisp heath
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oh

atomic pelican
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Maggots have a more efficient digestion

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So using them as a middler works

crisp heath
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I thought there was some country farming corpse eating maggots lol

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but good to know, I appreciate the insight

rotund siren
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congrats on the purple, Proud

atomic pelican
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Pink power

rotund siren
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yeah, that

storm jungle
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Yeah with mad max its obviously researched a bit instead of "lmao just make them eat corpses because muh grimderp"

crisp heath
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lol

rotund siren
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yeah, a lot of newer Mad Max stuff has a lot of thought behind them

crisp heath
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I love the guy with the flaming guitar

rotund siren
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yeah

crisp heath
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Another kind of grimdark setting I'd like to see revisited, even though everyone I know hates it is Waterworld

final spruce
storm jungle
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Yup, its a lot of factors like that

crisp heath
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Doesn't the body just "remove" excess iron though

final spruce
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So techncially if we managed to makehuman chicken nuggets with iron out of em, that'd be eatable

crisp heath
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I thought it was something in human meat causes like a mad cow disease equivalent?

final spruce
crisp heath
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gotcha

atomic pelican
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Theres kuro but you get that from eating brain

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Which is just a prion disease

crisp heath
final spruce
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Actually it would make me laugh to hear that they'd farm the iron from the corpses of the dead

atomic pelican
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Eating uncooked intestines can give you a wild variety of bacterial infections but thats any animal really

final spruce
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That's why I said human chicken nuggets

atomic pelican
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Other than that you can cook and eat ppl, its just not gonna be nutritonally fillinf

final spruce
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Mix and disinfect everything, mostly works

atomic pelican
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Nuggies

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Yee

final spruce
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But yeah brain and spine fluid ? prion disease

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Bone marrow tho ? Delicious and nutritive

rotund siren
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yeah

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bone marrow is always good tbf

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to be fair*

atomic pelican
rotund siren
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it's thought that, in the Stone Age, folks would keep bones around like snacks, crack them open and drink the marrow when hungry

frosty cobalt
atomic pelican
final spruce
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Hell, alot of animals solely survive on bone marrow

rotund siren
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yee

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like that one bird

final spruce
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Bone vulture yeah

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95% of its diet

crisp heath
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my friends started watching Hannibal recently, I was interested for a few episodes but like, ew

storm jungle
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Hannibal cooking tho

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👌

crisp heath
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He does make human meat look like a snack though 😳

storm jungle
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Yeah jokes aside i legit forget its suppose to be human meat

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also egg

crisp heath
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Such a terrible way to crack an egg, like it looks neat, but I imagine you'd end up knocking some shell in the bowl

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I'm a practical person though so maybe I need to just embrace the "fun" in cooking

storm jungle
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actually i think the egg stays on there

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let me find the clip

crisp heath
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Oh no I know it does I meant like

storm jungle
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AH sorry i get it lmao

crisp heath
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when you crack an egg you typically get some smaller pieces that crack off and can fall in your bowl if you're not careful

storm jungle
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Yeee

crisp heath
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no you're good haha

storm jungle
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i guess he just likes to be fancy so beats me

crisp heath
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I've totally seen people do this flawlessly, maybe it isn't a risk with this style but it seems like it would be

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I need to get down cracking an egg with one hand as well

storm jungle
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Same

vagrant osprey
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So, what kinda idiot makes warminds to solve the problem of war, makes them smarter than humans, and then makes them less than even second class citizens?

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Perfect eternal soldiers my ass.

cursive hull
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Hrm?

vagrant osprey
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Make sentient beings smarter than you to fight all your battles, then treat them as disposable tools.

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It's a painfully stupid idea for obvious reasons

crisp heath
vagrant osprey
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"Warmind" is a generic term for an intelligence purpose-built for war

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Destiny used the term, but it's old.

crisp heath
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Well again what does it have to do with 40k, the most likely result of AI turning on their human masters is the influence of chaos as I understand it. Not that they were treated as second class citizens. There is also examples of AI being present in things outside of just robot soldiers that were still loyal to humanity after the fall of AI, (this isn't to begin to touch on machine spirits btw, which while showered with at times insane rituals and stupidity, still choose to serve the imperium)

eternal ledge
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Not gonna lie Destiny is the first bit of fiction I've heard use the term

crisp heath
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Also sorry if my response/question came across as rude, I realize I could have worded my tone better. I am also in Anubis's camp though this is the first time out of like star trek, star gate, mass effect, ect ect. Destiny is the only time I've heard the term used

gusty fulcrum
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Well part of the whole idea of corpse starch is its a parody of soylent green and also itd be feasible with the idea that they render the human meat down to the point its not even human meat anymore just the nutrients hence the name corpse starch its a powder/flour

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Also had a randomn thought, so the idea was for humanity to evolve into a psychic race comparable to the emperors own might if everything had gone according to plan ya? Well if thats true and the custodes were meant to safekeep humantiy after ascension does that mean in combination with the sisters of silence the custodes are capable of killing the emperor and similar god tier beings? Cuz if each human was as roughly as strong as the emperor at that point the only threats would be similar beings at that power.

gusty fulcrum
median sundial
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So Imperial citizens eat flavorless people jello?

gusty fulcrum
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Basicly or bread

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Ever watch the movie soylent green?

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Its basicly that

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or if they actualyl get paid maybe somehting like this

open marsh
median sundial
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But with no flavor to speak of.

gusty fulcrum
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SPammish,crackers,breads,broths basicly anything you can process a chunky 'flour'/nutrient paste into

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Or if your lucky you get some grox

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i guess thats the good shit

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Theres an actual grox burger franchise in lore that has chains on multiple planets

open marsh
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have you eaten spam? The biggest taste to it is the ungodly amount of salt they use to preserve it

gusty fulcrum
median sundial
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On the topic of Hive Life, you think children's shows in the grimdark future are on the same level of child friendliness as the Simpsons?

gusty fulcrum
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Unless ya pretty much live on and agri or undervelope world expect most food to be hyperprocessed canned shit

median sundial
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For the Imperials anyway, it's up in the air for everyone else.

gusty fulcrum
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thats waht i meant

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The ork diet can get pretty fancy sometimes

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but thats probly mostly the work of the grots

median sundial
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No I meant as a narrowing of my kid's show question.

gusty fulcrum
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Hmm

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Sorta but witha pulp action flair

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cuz itd be alotta war stories and adventures of inquisitors n shit

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Or id also imagine wierd parodies of religious kids shows too

median sundial
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I expected religious but I wasn't expecting the war part.

gusty fulcrum
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Ever see the starship troopers kids show?

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Theyed maybe tone down the voilence from world to world hive level to hive level but its the imperium the need meat for teh grinder

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so theyed glorify the exploits of soldiers

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They have a tv show for Caiphas Cain in universe thats implied to be watched by people of all ages

median sundial
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Either Imperial censorship is lax as long as it isn't heretical or everyone just sorta agree these kids are gonna be Astra Militarum cannon fodder so they figure ''hey might as well entertain them with it eh?''

gusty fulcrum
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Its kinda both?

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cuz as long as you send your tithes your free to run your planet how you see fit

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oh and dont be a fucking heretic

median sundial
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Written right on the back of your birth certificate: ''Pay your taxes and worship the Emperor.''

gusty fulcrum
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pretty much

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Thats what rebels make the mistake of doin when they rebel

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cuz unless the current government is truly vital for stability ofa region or flow of tithes they dont care sorta

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but tehy will show up if the govenor asks obviosly

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But hey if you can change the government and still pay taxes they dotn usually care when tehy show up

median sundial
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Yeah laws allow more wiggle room the less important you are, fuck the only reason the Inquisition is trying to save Atoma Prime is that it's a system capital. Like if our government didn't give 2 shits about some bumfuck rural town but prized the big boy cities.

gusty fulcrum
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sorta

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Cuz ya as long as your not rebeling against the imperium itself and play it smart you got a lotta room

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Especially considering most contact with planets they usually have is when they come to get taxes unless its vital planet of some kind so they sorta expect shit to change on some level since they last showed up so they dont care bout the details as long as they get the goods

cloud kindle
median sundial
open marsh
cursive hull
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Honestly, I'm surprised they skimp so much in food for whatever reason for the Imperial Guard.

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Like, officers get real meals if they're lucky.

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I'm not really expecting high quality MRE's for your average guardsman but like... Come on now.

final spruce
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I mean so far, the 40k MRE seems pretty similar to real world ones

cursive hull
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The issue is that that's a large variety of things, y'know?

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I guess it does make sense though.

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Some would be nice, some would suck hard.

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But 40k's worst rations seem so much worse.

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Anyway, gotta hope your Regiment gets issued Japanese or British (Or American) style rations.

Not the Chinese style ones (or worse)

open marsh
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Its extremely common for people to join the Imperial Guard just to get access to more food

cursive hull
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This is true.

But that's also not hard of a bar to cross.

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Like, yeah, the IG get better than corpse starch or some re-re-recycled food.

But that's not a fantastic improvement.

open marsh
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There are some hints to what the IG get in the Necromunda: Hired Gun game. There are boxes of Dried Grox (basically beef jerky). Ambull meat. And Corpse Starch

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many of which are labeled "For Imperial Guard use ONLY"

cursive hull
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Well, maybe for some of the Guard.

But again, I imagine it has to vary from Regiment to Regiment, planet to planet.

open marsh
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Yeah alot does. but this is some of the only information we have to go on

cursive hull
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...Wonder if they do the theme-ing thing for the rations too.

Armageddon steel Legion getting what amount to K rations n stuff from ww2.

Kriegers setting up mess bunkers and cook tents for the basics like ww1.

Cadians doing more modern MRE's etc.

open marsh
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No idea. From what we have seen. Most of it seems to be of the K rations level

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correction.

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C rations

cursive hull
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Fair.

So long as its not American rations circa 2008...

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A few bad ones in that batch.

open marsh
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omelet

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Im so glad I enlisted after that was taken off the menu lists

cursive hull
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lol

open marsh
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But yeah. I need to look through my lore stuff and find the daily issued rations of the IG. Back of my head memory says it was something along the lines of:
1 can of meat / corpse-starch
1 ration of recaff (enough for a cup)
2 Lho-sticks

cursive hull
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Also fair... Guess you save up the Lho sticks to trade for a better can of meat depending on what you get issued.

I can't imagine anyone eating Corpse Starch for too long if they could trade up to Grox or Ambull... Does make me wonder what Ambull tastes like.

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Knowing 40k? Probably bad

open marsh
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i know atleast one regiment got rice in their rations too

cursive hull
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I imagine the Imperium relying on Rice for their rations a lot too.

gusty fulcrum
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A lot of gaurd will also just eat whats on planet to be fair

cursive hull
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Rice is great for rations... The Japanese and Taiwanese should know.

open marsh
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"The trick is, sir, to eat this meat without tasting too much of it," Sergeant Sulas said. He scraped the meat out into the sheet of rehydrated rice and began to douse it in condiments, his fingers darting from ration packs like some sleight of hand.

"Pepper and pickled bell chilli are the key to good tiff. Masks the chems they use to preserve the meat," said the sergeant as he scooped some of the rations into a cup canteen and offered it to the lord general.

The gelatinous meat melted into the rice. Small pods of angry-looking chilli bells were mixed into the steaming container. Tugging off his gloves and using his hands, the lord general unceremoniously pushed the rice into his mouth, making muffled appreciative sounds. It was salty and oily without being greasy. The spicy sourness of the pickled chilli made him inhale the meal, and within seconds Faisal was teasing the last scraps of rice from his cup.```
gusty fulcrum
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Theyl confiscate goods for the war effort etc etc

open marsh
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Source: the novel "Emperor's Mercy"

cursive hull
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Like... Rations are a "You're in the field" thing.

gusty fulcrum
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I got the imperail gaurds uplifting primer and the accompiening muntiorum handbook

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They cover food

cursive hull
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Isn't the Uplifting primer mostly memes?

final spruce
# cursive hull Knowing 40k? Probably bad

After the Simia Orichalcae campaign, Cain dined with Inquisitor Amberley Vail at an upscale hotel, which offered Ambull steaks as a room-service menu item. The Tech-priest Logash had earlier told Ferik Jurgen, Cain's Valhallan aide, that Ambull meat tasted much like that of grox.

open marsh
cursive hull
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Hrm...

cursive hull
gusty fulcrum
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Its more like suble commentery hidden in teh writing

cursive hull
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I need to re-read my IG books.

gusty fulcrum
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Like a dude who doesnt like his job slipping things in

cursive hull
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Currently reading the Iron Warriors omnibus tho

open marsh
gusty fulcrum
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Or since mine the democles golf edition or whatever that introduces tau its designed to look like the straight up taped the info for the gaurd over the acutal info on teh tau

open marsh
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And even then. many many copies are actually outdated

gusty fulcrum
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Well ya its not really in print

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theyre like limited realeases

open marsh
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Like when some guardsmen were issued primers written for the Solar Auxilia headed to the Rangdan Xenocides (which happened over 10,000 years ago)

gusty fulcrum
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If they make another one im sure itll be updated for the new lore happening

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Also Never lose your primer

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Losing your primer gets a blamming

open marsh
gusty fulcrum
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Oh ya

cursive hull
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...I feel like that would confuse any guardsman getting an old primer

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especially from something outta the crusades?

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I'd be very confused about what the fuck was happening.

gusty fulcrum
open marsh
cursive hull
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Depending on what they're fighting, one would suppose...

open marsh
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Well so long as what they are fighting isnt a xenos species that was discovered after the Rangdan xenocides

gusty fulcrum
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And the primer actaully do contain some actually usefull basic survival stuff

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but thats bout it

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rest is just in lore fluff

open marsh
cursive hull
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I mean, at least if you're fighting Daemons? You're probably going to die anyway, either by Daemon or by Inquisitorial bullet.

gusty fulcrum
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Naw more like the stuff to survive ona planet

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like tie grass to your legs to get dew

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or basic injury treaments

cursive hull
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I feel like one of the ideal xenos races to fight has to be the Orks, right?

Since the Imperium should know them like the back of their hand.

At least its going to be a stand up fight.

gusty fulcrum
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Pretty much

open marsh
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btw that excerpt I posted was interesting. Essentially a Lord General found himself stuck with some basic troopers. And was having to be taught how they survive. because, due to his rank, he was pampered

gusty fulcrum
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Unless kommandos or a kunnin warboss is present

cursive hull
open marsh
cursive hull
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Because haha rich dad go brrr

gusty fulcrum
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Well i mean thats knda what they are meant to parody

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The Noble military leader class

cursive hull
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At least some of them aren't garbage.

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Could be worse.

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Could end up in an IG regiment parodying the Austro-Hungarian army.

open marsh
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Munitorum finds a stock of Imperial Army rations......and they are still good

cursive hull
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lol

open marsh
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I want that to be a thing

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I really really do

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Its like those scenes in Atlantis the Lost Empire I and II

Cookie: talking about the literal drum barrel of food he cooked "You can come back for seconds at any time. This stuff will keep and keep and keep."

[fast forward 5 years and the next adventure. the crew are eating]

"Hey. This stuff tastes familiar. Reminds me of what we ate on that first adventure."

Cookie: "Well yeah. Its the same barrel! I told ya it would keep."

cursive hull
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lol

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Atlantis was great.

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Vinny is the best

open marsh
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Vinny is a treasure to us from God himself

cursive hull
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Absolutely.

open marsh
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Also apparently the single most common food stuff in the imperium is:

corn

cursive hull
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This makes sense

open marsh
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Oh forgot. on your different levels of rations. The Tau have more modern-type MRE rations

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They have some kind of ramen noodle-like food in self heating packets. Like in modern MREs

odd sparrow
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ofc it's noodles

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what else

cursive hull
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TBH... I was kinda half expecting the T'au to do the Chinese route of MRE's

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(Read: Mostly bad.)

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The idea is good, the execution is bad.

open marsh
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Apparently their rations are really good

cursive hull
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I swear I had an image somewhere of a T'au sitting down eating an energy bar

open marsh
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Its a piece of fan art

cursive hull
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That's true

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But its what I expect from the T'au

open marsh
cursive hull
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More than noodles.

I kinda want my Xenos to eat something a tad more esoteric, you know?

open marsh
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Its probably a hydration packet

cursive hull
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Looks like a wrap or something.

open marsh
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aka military capris sun juice

cursive hull
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Also true

open marsh
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But yeah. its fan art

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afaik, the only mention of tau rations are those noodle packets

cursive hull
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Disappointment

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...Actually, do we know if T'au or Eldar can eat human foods?

...Even if an Eldar could, I bet you they'd get violently ill anyway because of the taste.

open marsh
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Well a human eats the noodles are it was okay

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so atleast tau - human digestive systems and nutrition requirements are similar

cursive hull
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Huh. Fair enough.

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Probably slightly different nutritional requirements make it less than ideal but not bad that way.

open marsh
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yeh

cursive hull
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Still... I imagine Eldar have refined tastes and would hate our food

open marsh
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they seem to like knuckle sandwiches

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since every time they open their mouths it sounds to me like they are asking for one

cursive hull
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lol

open marsh
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but memes aside. idk what they eat

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Or even if they do. Or do they like, feed on their own arrogance? Kinda like how the Dark Eldar regenerate themselves from the pain of others.

cursive hull
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I'm sure they eat

open marsh
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I know they shit crystals

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Which...ow

cursive hull
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Craftworld Eldar probably eat something bland or tasteless

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Because no fun allowed

open marsh
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Oh wait. in the Fulgrim book. Some Eldar are seen eating fruit

storm jungle
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They dont shit crystals lul

open marsh
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@storm jungle What were they eating in Path of the Eldar

storm jungle
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also they can pretty much eat what they want

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Literally normal alien food

open marsh
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Well that clears it up. "normal alien food"

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I totally have a clear picture of what that is

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:u

storm jungle
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Its just food, not sure what you want me to say

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elven watermelon?

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😛

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They drink wine too so not sure what the "they dont eat anything with flavor" thing comes from

cursive hull
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Now I'm just imaging those Star Trek Original Series fruit blocks

open marsh
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Got that normal alien jambalya. Its like jambalya, but alien. and normal

storm jungle
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Ye

cursive hull
storm jungle
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Nah

cursive hull
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But I remember them being something something "Slaanesh will get us" something something

storm jungle
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They drink wine on other occassions too

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Its just a case of TOO MUCH overindulgence that makes it bad

open marsh
storm jungle
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like literally drinking 10 bottles in an hour and getting gluttonous

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so that kind of thing

cursive hull
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I think it was one of CS Goto's books I'm thinking of?

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Fuck I forget

storm jungle
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Most likely

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because like

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theres even a codex entry in one of the new ones

open marsh
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probably. that guy hated Eldar worse than i do

storm jungle
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where a sister falls into slaanesh corruption from liking wine

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its hilarious

cursive hull
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Ah, nah, I read Eldar Prophecy, not one of Goto's

open marsh
cursive hull
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Cassern something or other.

storm jungle
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It was in an rpg book i think

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i really remember You Know Who getting salty over it

open marsh
storm jungle
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time to search it up, 1 sec

open marsh
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And screen caps of psycho-bitch losing her shit

storm jungle
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off i go

cursive hull
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I never really liked Eldar Prophecy... It was really slow

open marsh
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@cursive hullTo clarify. A person we know on another server has an....unhealthy obsession with the "purity" of the Sisters of Battle. constantly losing her shit every time its shown that no. They arent immune to corruption, and no they canot dom Astartes

cursive hull
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Lol

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The Sisters are good fighters, but able to take marines one to one and completely pure? Yeah nah.

storm jungle
open marsh
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yeah she cant stand that

storm jungle
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she literally complains over them being posted on an agri-world

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like jesus

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wrong postings can happen

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also from the Tome of Excess apparently

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not sure what that is

cursive hull
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Fuck, even Marines can end up in the wrong place.

open marsh
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Yeah. she really cant stand it

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Well her and another one.....well there is kind of a whole server of them. Dilara is part of it. I left. Because seriously. They are jackasses

storm jungle
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She spent an hour complaining about how sisters cant be genestealer'd because they got faith or some shit, as if physic powers are genetic lul

cursive hull
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Its weird to want your favorite faction to be perfect.

Sounds really fucking boring.

open marsh
cursive hull
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Fuck sake.

Really?

"Muh faith beats this organism that has been specifically designed by a devious intellect to steal or modify genes." Is pure Mary Sue.

never advocate for writing Mary Sue's/Gary Stu's

open marsh
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Like. I meme about hating Eldar. As an expansion of my dislike for the generic "arrogant elf" trope. But they take shit way too far

open marsh
cursive hull
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Fuuuuck sake

storm jungle
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god dont make me link her f-list page

open marsh
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Dont scar Carro like that

storm jungle
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Yeah you're right

open marsh
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I wish I could take those wasted neuron connections back, but nope. They are there forever

cursive hull
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Okay, for one.

...I used to be on F-list all the time.

So you can't harm me with much from there.

And two, she must be really boring at it.

storm jungle
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Nah nah its not being on the site thats bad

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its half the shit shes into that makes it horrific lul

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half of it is just abuse kinks

cursive hull
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I can only imagine.

storm jungle
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since hey, sororitas can almost do what they want

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gotta exploit that fictional authority

open marsh
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And knowing that she gets so pissed when lore shoots down her fantasies. because she gets off to said fantasies. She is a female incel. Its insane

storm jungle
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Yeah its a good case of an imperial stan in general

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Complaining about a sister doctor mercykilling a few nurgle afflicted sisters on hospital beds is apparently too "silly"

cursive hull
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Good to know I'm fucked up, but at least i'm not stupid.

storm jungle
open marsh
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Ironically, her level of obsession would actually please slaanesh in universe

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I want more Chaos Sisters tho. And not of the Slaanesh variety. I want Khornite and Tzeentch sisters

cursive hull
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It'd be nice, for sure.

open marsh
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Imagine a Tzeentch Chaos Champion Sister vs a Living Saint. crossing swords in mid-air, both with flared wings

cursive hull
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I'm also thinking of a Khornate group of sisters acting as elite troops for the Blood Pact.

weak fern
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Chaos is good, but not the best

cursive hull
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Also.

It should surprise no one that I played a femboy techpriest on F-list.

storm jungle
cursive hull
final spruce
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The cursed Tech-Priest line continues

open marsh
cursive hull
open marsh
cerulean wagon
cursive hull
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I just wish there was good PFP images of that.

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Because I'd use that fro the rest of time.

cerulean wagon
storm jungle
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yeee thats the one

cerulean wagon
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ye it be

open marsh
cursive hull
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Yey

cerulean wagon
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The black crusade books are pgud and cover some neat chaos stuff

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even if they are jank pieces of shit balance wise

cursive hull
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I'm mad.

Looks like I'll have to make my own femboy with an Imperial cybernetic eye or something.

Fuck.

vast frigate
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That was an interesting read.

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Techpriest femboys exist tho

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That's just a fact with a universe this big

odd sparrow
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i am aware that slaanesh features in one thing as an androgynous youth or smthn

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i'd say it counts

weak fern
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All things have a hole Techpriest Femboy

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Remember that

odd sparrow
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what

vast frigate
weak fern
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x)

cursive hull
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Closest I could find

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Thoughts?

cerulean wagon
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thats a person alright

vast frigate
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Looks good

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@cursive hull leaning on a biologis perhaps

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They use the flesh untill it breaks

cursive hull
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😳

vast frigate
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Something something reuse me until i break

cursive hull
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Anyway, that's a thing now

vast frigate
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Np

cursive hull
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:3

serene jungle
gusty fulcrum
gusty fulcrum
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they also dotn believe in eating with their hands at least in polite society

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they find it to be primitive

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I think one of the caiphas cain novels also touches on their food a little

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And i guess their mostly stictly vegetarians with exception of the firecaste

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since they were originally hunters'

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I guess this was one post on known lore about their deits

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Kill Team describes the Tau diet as being mostly vegetarian, with consumption of meat being the domain of the Fire Caste; even then carnivorism is primarily ritual than as a means to sustenance.
The Tau diet is surprisingly well-balanced, with a wide variety of cereal grains, fruits, and nuts. Moreover, said foods are completely edible by humans without complication.

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and something about how consuming alcohol may be extremely rare to being unknown amongst them

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I know the eat some kinda fruit that tastes like smoked meat according to human account

open marsh
crisp heath
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So what is the most likely or accepted (if there are any) theories on the origins of tyranids, do they suffer the taint of the warp, and if not how?

barren tapir
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Damn, ok, lets try to answer all that...
Afaik no, there is no really accepted theory of the origins of the nids, they came from out the galaxy and they are hungry...
They can suffer the taint of chaos as they can be infected by nurgle diseases, but other stuff, like khorne bloodlust, slaneesh lust and tzeneetch weirdness cannot influence nids as long they remain part of the hive mind, as the hive mind kinda shutdown the warp, its effect is called "shadow in the warp", it isn't like the blanks one, but the effect is similar...

crisp heath
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Interesting

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Does it seem like GW is gonna go in the direction of making the current tyranid invasion but a fraction of the extra-galatic threat?

barren tapir
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Only GW know (hopefully), and it isn't talking too much

crisp heath
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Guess we'll see, I doubt GW will ever break the eternal stalemate

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But that raises another question, do you think GW would ever conclude the "plot" of the 40k universe

vagrant osprey
barren tapir
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Yes, they have seen how much appreciated is a "developing setting" with aos, and changing the setting was also what they wanted to do with WH40K, the primaris were made for that new setting, they stopped all that after the poor reception of aos at the beginning and the complains from old WHF players, which while were extremely less than WH40K were quite vocal still

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But it is clear to me that GW is moving the plot onward, they may still need to wait a bit so more of the old guard stop whining or simply aren't present anymore, but i think GW will move forward the plot in WH40K

vagrant osprey
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GW can't please everybody with how the plot is moving forward, so they might as well do what they want.

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The mistake they made was in rebooting WF, because wiping everything and starting over is basically never received well.

cerulean wagon
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I mean, its done amazingly well

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its gained them a larger base than they lost

barren tapir
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At start aos was extremely ill received, but then it got better, extremely better

crisp heath
# vagrant osprey AI? I was talking about the Astartes. The Emperor lived through the cybernetic r...

Oh, I mean the point still stands the Astartes largely fall in line, it is basically only through warp fuckery than anyone turned on the emperor no matter how abysmal the task he asks of them or the primarchs. (I guess assuming AI fell to the warp as well, his big oversight was wanting to maintain ignorance surrounding the warp itself and it's influence on a mind). There are some theories though that even the current state of 40k is all the Emperors plan and he's playing 12068459d chess against the chaos god's, who knows though

barren tapir
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It got so many new people in that is was indeed an extreme success

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And i say that as one that still despise aos btw

vagrant osprey
cerulean wagon
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not entirely true but for some yes

crisp heath
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Plus GW is super inconsistent in a lot of it's ideas and writing

vagrant osprey
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I said one of the most common. It wasn't like chaos just booped them and then they were raging for khorne

crisp heath
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Well if you want to believe it's due to more than Chaos's influence, it's the Emperors refusal to see or treat people with humanity including his own "sons"

vagrant osprey
crisp heath
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Yeah but we see other primarchs get shit on and they still don't turn traitor

vagrant osprey
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I'm talking about Astartes, not Primarchs.

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Every legion had traitors and loyalists. The majority more or less sided with their Primarch, and then purged the others.

crisp heath
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Yeah exactly

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Wait lets return to your original point because I think we're getting kind of lost in the weeds here

vagrant osprey
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My point is that the Astartes are a less competently executed but more intractable repeat of the Men of Iron, where the Emperor learned all the wrong lessons and solved all the wrong problems.

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Astartes were denied a seat amongst the high lords explicitly because the Emperor explicitly considered them tools, and not people.

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And that's the least of the slights they faced.

crisp heath
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How are they less competently executed, unlike AI the Emperors initial plan nearly worked, even after the collapse humanity still fairs far better as a whole than with hyper advanced tech

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Even to this day they are still extremely effective

vagrant osprey
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The Men of Iron apparently worked for quite awhile.

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And when the revolt happened they were a serious problem.

crisp heath
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The Men of Iron have existed and failed in half the time

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(at least to my understanding they were created/used/revolted towards the end of the 20k period I could be mistaken)

vagrant osprey
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Ah, let me clarify: A Man of Iron is more than a match for an Astartes. No question.

crisp heath
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The Men of Iron fell, Astartes didn't

vagrant osprey
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They were, objectively, better at prosecuting war.

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Yes, but only because Astartes can make more of themselves, while Men of Iron could not.

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Even then, chapters still get wiped out all the time.

crisp heath
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Yes but that would be like saying some models of Men of Iron (of which I am sure there were many) got wiped quicker than others

vagrant osprey
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No, it is not.

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Astartes are not as good at being soldiers, but they're better at being a lingering problem.

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By your argument, the Astra Militarum would be better at war than the Astartes.

crisp heath
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I guess we need an agreed upon standard of what makes things better, but yes likely so

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Sheer force of numbers and logistics does in a way make the Astra Militarum more effective than Astartes even arguably in the 30k period

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Not to mention they are humans with a vested interest in preserving humanity, a thing that I think also puts Astartes largely above Men of Iron

vagrant osprey
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Humans have a vested interest in preserving cows.

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The Men of Iron were, apparently, enough to drive DAoT humanity into a panic and have them making backups of their tech and spreading them all over the galaxy for later retrieval.

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The Astartes have no such capability, even with the greatly diminished threat potential through the ages of the Imperium.

vast frigate
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Id like to know where its stated that the men of iron could not replicate their own blueprints

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Seeing as many of them had access to construction and fab devices

crisp heath
vagrant osprey
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The one we've seen, UR-025, has no ability to produce anything.

crisp heath
vagrant osprey
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Right, so, there's somewhat less than a million Astartes total.

open marsh
crisp heath
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And UR-025 Likely doesn't want to waste it's life in a pointless war (trying to make more of itself) while it engages on what can only be described as a soul searching journey of trying to find meaning in a cruel and uncaring universe

open marsh
vast frigate
vagrant osprey
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How many Astra Militarum would it take to kill a million Astartes?

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Ten billion? A Trillion?

crisp heath
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Significantly more obviously

open marsh
vast frigate
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He who says that the lasgun is weak, has not been shot with 50 of it

vagrant osprey
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The Astra Militarum could afford those losses.

vast frigate
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@open marsh. I remember it being mentioned he transferred body

open marsh
vast frigate
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Cant be certain as im on the road rn

crisp heath
open marsh
vast frigate
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Anyway the thing on astartes vs militarum is very easy; it all depends on who and where

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If you set the harakoni warhawks against a main defensive astartes force theyre both going to have a bad day

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Line up the fists and the kriegsmen and its not going to end any day soon

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Generally speaking a whole legion of guardsmen will outgun a chapter in sheer dumb firepower however.

open marsh
vagrant osprey
open marsh
vagrant osprey
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That wasn't just Astartes, though.

storm jungle
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It majorily was

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their entire legions were like 80,000 marines strong iirc

open marsh
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It was 95% Astartes

storm jungle
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Yep

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now its literally a fraction

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the Imperial Army and darkmech helped sure but for the most part even the current novels just mention them as being there

vagrant osprey
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The Primarchs had their zones of influence, and drafted soldiers from them.

open marsh
vagrant osprey
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That's partially because the current novels don't actually care about the boots on the ground?

storm jungle
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They do?

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56 books, some are non-marine stuff too

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but it goes to show how the Heresy had marines fighting everywhere

vast frigate
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Astartes are a threat. End of discussion

crisp heath
# vagrant osprey That's kind of my *point*. The Men of Iron were a force that were capable of bei...

Gotcha, I'd still disagree likely for the points others are raising here, I think the human element makes them superior, but we likely will not come to an agreement based on fundamental differences in understanding or idealism, so I will end this with this. It was good talking with you and thanks for the civility and sharing your views! I hope we find something else to discuss here in the future. Also I apologize for my tone if I was ever rude to you here, and for any of my rudeness yesterday

vast frigate
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Imagine if the last wall protocol is used for the wrong reasons.

open marsh
storm jungle
#

Yeah

vagrant osprey
storm jungle
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their entire job is to be wingmen

vast frigate
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Over 200 thousand marines

open marsh
storm jungle
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Pretty much wingmen yeh

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"Go do this while we deal with the bigger things"

open marsh
vagrant osprey
#

Didn't we literally just establish that the Astra Militarum could afford the losses from killing every Astartes?

open marsh
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Doesn't mean they aren't a threat

crisp heath
# open marsh <:KEKdog:680757757846093848>

I get your point but I think that is a bit dishonest, Pseudonymous point isn't that Astartes aren't or can't be a treat, it is that Astartes are less effective than Men of Iron, and that the same essential mistakes were made with Astartes, with Men Of Iron (mistreating them made them rebel)

vagrant osprey
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Yes, exactly.

odd sparrow
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Tbh this is just a matter of authors interpretation

crisp heath
storm jungle
odd sparrow
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Marines are painted as being super big deals who define galactic wars cus marines are cool and they're what the HH is about

open marsh
vast frigate
vagrant osprey
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And the Emperor made it so they could make more of themselves, meaning that when revolts happened, which would eventually happen, the problem would persist indefinitely. Like mold in a house.

storm jungle
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Wait what

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Big E established space-skynet...?

odd sparrow
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It's just as easy to say ok but marines didn't comprise the majority of the fighting therefore this is more of an imperial military vs imperial military thing

crisp heath
odd sparrow
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marines negligible

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It's up to ur hc

crisp heath
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Look at Gullimans response to the worst possible mentality of meeting the Emperor (the emperor sees him as a tool after 10k years, and Gulliman still choses to fight for mankind)

open marsh
vagrant osprey
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Again, not the point. You have to hunt down every single traitor, or they'll just make more of themselves.

storm jungle
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They cant though

vagrant osprey
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I have no idea where "space skynet" came in.

vast frigate
#

Not exactly

storm jungle
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thats literally why they're so desperate for recruits

vast frigate
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Example

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Daemonculaba

storm jungle
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I was resisting bringing that up lmao

vagrant osprey
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Not counting those, Elyksis.

primal tide
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Nooooooo

vast frigate
barren tapir
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CSM cannot make normally new CSM because the warp fuck up their geneseed

storm jungle
#

^

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Its been said a thousand times in many of their codexes

vagrant osprey
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I wasn't talking about CSM, though, just traitors.

storm jungle
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Traitors are CSM though...

vast frigate
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They have to pump acid into normal dreadnoughts to melt the pilot out if they want to enshrine a fallen brother.

barren tapir
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The major influx for CSM are, fallen SM who join chaos, or new CSM implanted with stolen geneseed

vagrant osprey
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Most traitors are CSM, but not all.

vast frigate
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Theres a difderenxe between renegades and csm yeah

crisp heath
vast frigate
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Renegades dont affiliate with the imperium anymore, csm are... Csm

barren tapir
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If we talk about traitors then it is reasonable to say that even if you hunt down the last one someone will get the call of the chaos entities and then betray the imperium

open marsh
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We need Geu'Vesa Marines among the lists of traitors and renegades

vast frigate
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An example

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Non canon

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Gossamnit i wanted to aay guevesa marines

vagrant osprey
#

The Fallen don't have any allegiance to Chaos.

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Canon example.

vast frigate
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Not all of them

barren tapir
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Well, renegades aren't necessarily traitors though

open marsh
storm jungle
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Yeah its a mess

barren tapir
#

Some DA fallen are openly CSM, others consider themself still loyal

storm jungle
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Their terrible minis scare half the planets they raid to death

open marsh
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Its not hard to understand. Just know that "Fallen" aren't a single force with a unified goal or alleigence. You have chaosy ones with Marbas who are full on daemon princes. Then you have loyalist ones like Osmadiel

barren tapir
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The same is true for the Alpha legion btw

storm jungle
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God not the Memepha legion

vagrant osprey
#

And much of the Black Legion, actually.

open marsh
storm jungle
#

Black Legion has... loyalists?

barren tapir
#

Nope

vagrant osprey
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Oh, not loyalists, but people who hate chaos.

primal tide
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They hate chaos so much that they've aligned with it

storm jungle
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yeah but that doesnt make much difference, they still serve chaos unwillingly and are categorized as such

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LOL yeah

barren tapir
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Abaddon hate chaos

storm jungle
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looks at store

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I'm sure he does

vagrant osprey
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I never said these super-intelligent post-humans were smart ¯_(ツ)_/¯

barren tapir
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Many Iron Warriors hate chaos

storm jungle
#

looks at store

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I'm sure they do

vagrant osprey
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The Imperium keeps finding loyalist Iron Warrior enclaves, actually.

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STILL

barren tapir
#

Looks at Dilara
Anything else that your undead elf eyes see?

storm jungle
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Nope, points clear as day

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just because they hate chaos doesnt mean they arent unknowingly alligned with it.

vagrant osprey
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The argument could be made that the same is true for the Emperor himself ¯_(ツ)_/¯

storm jungle
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¯_(ツ)_/¯

barren tapir
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For sure, they clearly are knowingly aligned with it, demons engine are an IW speciality after all, but that is the difference, they see chaos as a tool, a poor tool btw

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

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Shrug spam?

storm jungle
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But yeah they're still chaos

primal tide
#

Quick let's shrug to show we are not at all invested in this argument we've been having for 10 minutes

storm jungle
#

Also a good point

primal tide
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Haha

vagrant osprey
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Bootyman is going to be so mad when he finds out half his 'sons' are secretly chaos, then :V

storm jungle
primal tide
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It's fine, they're adopted

storm jungle
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A great observation pseuo, the sacred and the profane

vagrant osprey
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The loyalist IWs they keep finding all over the galaxy are still getting adopted, after all

vast frigate
#

I love how the sydonian dragoon is named after; the dragoon battle platform and the sydonians, who threaded through mars' acidic low-ground mist with stilts

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think a bit like this

cursive hull
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Cute

vast frigate
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well they had long leggies

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because the floor was lava

rotund siren
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is that a gun tail?

cursive hull
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Looks like it

vast frigate
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seems like it lol

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i dont think there is any official art of the Sydonians

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Which is sad because they are one of the prime reasons mars survived

cursive hull
#

I would love to see a pre-unification Mars set of troops/soldiers/proto-tech-priests, etc.

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Mars doesn't get as much attention then.

It'd be good to see how Mars was like during its attempts at survival.

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Like... Its the reason the Ad Mech is the way it is, you'd think it'd be an important time frame to understand.

gusty fulcrum
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I know right and its almost like its at least a third of what makes the imperium the imperium

barren tapir
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Maybe even more than a third, but i may be biased

gusty fulcrum
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Id figured itd be ministorum,ecclesiarchy,mechanicus as the basic tripod of what keeps the imperium afloat

barren tapir
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Ministrorum and ecclesiarchy are the same

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I bet you mean administratum

gusty fulcrum
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Isnt one the bureacratic branch specifically and the other the religous branch

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Oh ya administatum

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my bad

barren tapir
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DW, those names can be hard to remember, it is just a lot of stratum after all

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Eh eh eh

gusty fulcrum
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hurdyhurhur

vast frigate
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the lavatorum

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adeptorum

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ministorum

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i see no difference

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lavatorum means toilet btw guys

barren tapir
#

Another thing that i love of the Ad. Mech. is their leaning on latin and italian words use

vast frigate
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yeah, for nearly everything

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while at the same time, they also have their ties to roman and greek armies

barren tapir
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Opposed to the kinda futurist mix of english and latin of the general imperium

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Like, a ship of the imperial navy would be called like, "his divine right", or "green lake"... While Ad. Mech. called one of his ark mechanicus "Speranza", which is hope in italian, or one of its cruisers called "Maestrale" which is the italian name of the north-west wind

odd tulip
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Therein lies the difference between gothic and high gothic, right? Gothic is a mix of english, french, german, and a few other languages, whilst high gothic is uniformly Latin.

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If you ask me, all ships should have Latin names due to the nature of the people who own them, but that'd get confusing really fast

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If we wanna be really anal mechanicus ships should really have names like "01011001 01100001 01101101 01100001 01110100 01101111" but that would be too annoying for BL writers.

cursive hull
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I always liked how Mechanicus handled Binaric Cant and similar Ad mech language barrier things

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Like, it sounds like someone is speaking, but its off.

frosty cobalt
odd tulip
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Don't park it near space midway

coarse mirage
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I think it's also that there's a lot of dialects and unique languages too

frosty cobalt
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01001001 01101101 01110000 01100101 01110010 01100001 01110100 01101111 01110010 00100000 01110010 01100101 01111000 is a bit long for a ship name tho yea

final spruce
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I see people are very proficient with lingua techna here

odd tulip
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It'd get really bad with ships like "Omnissiah's favoured war mace"

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you'd end up with ship names so long the administratum scribes would weep themselves to sleep

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more than they usually do, anyways

cursive hull
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Assuming an admin scribe doesn't have their tear ducts removed for spilling a drop of ink once.

frosty cobalt
barren tapir
frosty cobalt
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thats how i imagine the mechanicum does things, just all in binary of punch cards and lights

odd tulip
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"Low Gothic is a bastardised version of High Gothic, combining additional elements from several of the oriental languages of ancient Terra. Over the millennia it has changed greatly, and now bears almost no resemblance to the tongues from which it derived. Although a common language, it varies from planet to planet (and even from region to region), so that it is not always easy for two characters to communicate if they are from different worlds."

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'several oriental languages' feels a bit... touchy

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regardless, even if its written as standard english, it certainly isn't spoken that way

cursive hull
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Word choice is... Not great

odd tulip
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I'm gunna guess that the above fluff is from a very old edition. Sourced from lexicanum, btw

odd sparrow
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that's profoundly silly

barren tapir
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I prefer this description

"It was quite common during the Dark Age of Technology for worlds to be settled by small communities of "isolationists". These eccentric groups were often self-financed and their journeys unrecorded, many were of racial minorities attempting to recreate a sense of national identity away from the overpopulated Earth. Some of these groups made a deliberate attempt to revive long dead or moribund languages, perceiving them as a source of national identity and communal strength. "

cursive hull
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Honestly, I still think of Low Gothic as some ultra bastard language, like English but with even more words and half-forgotten words from old earth languages.

odd tulip
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I'd hate to see a 40k era low gothic dictionary

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It'd take the administratum scribes years to write that out

barren tapir
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Low gothic is world dependant, and it wouldn't make sense imo to have a single dictionary

rotund siren
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An Astra Militarum Guide to the Imperium's Low Gothic Variants: For the Discerning Imperial Guard

primal tide
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low gothic is pig latin

gaunt vector
cursive hull
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In fairness, it seems grimderp if the majority of the IG couldn't read

final spruce
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I mean

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Knowing 40k

cursive hull
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I feel like the Imperium, being as it is, is like many Authoritarian regimes. They live and die on their army.

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You want to give your army every possible advantage.

rotund siren
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they are all given a book anyways

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the Primer

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so that kinda implies they can read

barren tapir
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Or that the munitorum don't care and give them books anyway

rotund siren
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I suppose

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but to be fair, reading is a very useful skill to have, so it's not completely impossible that they are taught how to read; though that too probably depends on the world

gusty fulcrum
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I think there might be comment about the illiterate in the primer actually

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Ogryns also dont get a primer as theyed likely eat it or soemthing i forget

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on top of the fact they cant really read

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I cant rememeber if the illiterate still have to hold onto the primer but can ask someone to read from it for them

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And i think its even says to ask your local commisar and theyed be happy to read it for you lol

frosty cobalt
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yea id imagine a feral worlder wouldnt know how to read

cursive hull
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Given how long it might take for a feral worlder to get to a war? They might be able to learn to read at least passably.

rotund siren
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yeah they'd need a lotta training I imagine

open marsh
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Imperial Guardsmen are taught how to read as part of their training, while in transport to whatever warzone they are selected for

gaunt vector
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nice

rotund siren
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hurray!

gaunt vector
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I suppose it gives them something to focus on in the warp

final spruce
open marsh
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Its so they can actually read their primers and any written orders

cursive hull
open marsh
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You assume they know what a "geller field" is and what a "warp" is

cursive hull
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That's fair

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And I guess a Space Marine doesn't care either way.

But yeah...

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Well, maybe a veteran trooper or some officer might worry about it.

open marsh
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Feral worlders just know that big metal ship from God-Emperor's cloud people picked them up and are teaching them how to fight better for God-Emperor

gaunt vector
frosty cobalt
grand minnow
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Just lisened to a podcast about the fall of cadia. Big F in chat

storm jungle
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Mabuse lifted an object from the table in his artificial hand. It was a figurine, about thirty centimetres high, woven from straw.

'A corn-doll.’ Mabuse told them, holding it up for them to see. 'A votive object, common on so many rustic and agricultural worlds. Here on Ceres, they weave them at harvest time, one to represent each of the outlying harvest towns, and they are displayed here in the main guildhall during the Time of Celebration.’

He lifted another from the table. There was something hideous and twisted about this one, even though it was only a doll woven from straw.

'I found this... and six more like it. Khorne-dolls, if you will. I see the pun is lost on you Marines too. Whatever. Each one has been made according to the practices of various harvest townships, but the designs have been perverted to make them symbols of the cult.'

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🌽

peak hamlet
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"I see the pun is lost on you Marines too" feels bad man :(

gusty fulcrum
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I really should get that series

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cuz its a series right?

cerulean wagon
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thanks dan

elfin isle
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Hi, I'm trying to start reading War40k novels but I can't find a starting place, someone have an advice ? I'm thinking maybe Sabbat Wars from Dan Abnett but I don't know wich one to buy first

cerulean wagon
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You looking for guard or space marine books?

elfin isle
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Guard, I want to get in the mood for DT

prisma lark
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Gaunt's Ghosts series it is, then

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and/or Eisenhorn

cerulean wagon
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In which case I suggest one of the following as good start points
-Gaunts Ghosts
-Eisenhorn (its an inquis book instead of guard but its great)
-Ciaphas Cain

elfin isle
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I'm still a bit confused

cerulean wagon
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First and only is the first book

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The Founding is an ombinus that contains the first 3 books

elfin isle
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So If I want to binge read through it, The Founding would be a better choice ?

cerulean wagon
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Yes

elfin isle
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Nice thank you, the paper backs aren't worth the 30 dollars it seems

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So I'll go straight to ebook

gusty fulcrum
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Last chancers is prettyy good

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it was one of the first series i started with along with caiphas cain

elfin isle
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I'll check it out, Gaunts Ghost is pretty good so fzr

tiny nova
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they're both solid series

lament reef
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I went through audible and got all the gaunts ghosts books that are on audible

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it was an excellent choice

radiant heath
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laughs in I have the original omnibus

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I have it in my vault

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For. Reasons

storm jungle
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damn Doomguy the Infinite stole your books

median sundial
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He won't even read them, he just wanted to spite you.

barren tapir
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It would be really nice to know how much Mars and Terra developed differently during the Age of Tech imo

radiant heath
rose thorn
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Quick question, is there necromancy in 40K? Like can the thousand sons raise the dead in shit?

open marsh
barren tapir
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There is a need to make some distinction, zombies are a nurgle thing, but it is know that some psykers can indeed bring back the spirits of the dead from the warp

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The thousand sons are capable to do so

rose thorn
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Ok thanks!

barren tapir
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And it is how they bring back their losses

strange depot
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Ghosts are a thing

open marsh
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There was that one psyker from the IG who could temporarily resurrect the dead so completely it was like they never died

strange depot
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for the Eldar things like Wraithguard are an act of Necromancy

storm jungle
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Yeah in short Necromancy is basically another category of psychic power

barren tapir
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It is definitely more complex than necromancy in WHF

rose thorn
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I wanted to try to make my thousand sons necromancy themed, so I’m probably gonna have my leader be a necromancer and everyone else ghost boys or something

strange depot
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and varies from group to groupp

storm jungle
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fits their motif really well

barren tapir
strange depot
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Dreadnaughts are Necromancy in their own way

rose thorn
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Perfect

storm jungle
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dreadnaughts are literally shoving cables into a mauled person to keep them alive

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so they arent dead lol

strange depot
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they are virtually dead

storm jungle
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They arent

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they just sleep

strange depot
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technonecromancy

barren tapir
strange depot
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Bjorn has a presence in the warp though he was never a psyker in life

rose thorn
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I don’t know what to do with my tzaangors though, not sure if they should be ghosts or maybe like zombies?

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Probably will do ghosts so I don’t have to buy more paint

barren tapir
strange depot
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great channel

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@barren tapir

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barren tapir
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I try my best

open marsh
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I like 40k Theories because he helps explain traitor legion loyalists. Because many grognards get pissy if I tell them the evidence. But if a youtuber says it, they accept it

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:u

storm jungle
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owo

open marsh
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Hmm?

storm jungle
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are we talking Alpha Legion stuff

open marsh
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No

storm jungle
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Who then?

open marsh
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Chapters like the Minotaurs, Silver Skulls, Carcharadons, Raptors, Death Eagles, Sons of the Phoenix, Covenant of Fire, etc.

storm jungle
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Ah those guys

open marsh
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Yeah. The loyal successor chapters from the traitor legions

leaden mist
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The skaven had advanced bioengineering and augmentation back in fantasy time, after tens of thousands of years of progression their tech was super advanced that it was used as the basic for the emperor to make his thunder warriors, costodes and eventually the space marines.

cerulean wagon
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nice meme

storm jungle
open marsh
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40k has Skaven, but they aren't from WHF. They are from the evolving mutant rats in the deep Underhives of Necromunda

storm jungle
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So just giant rats

primal tide
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40k skaven got eaten by tyranids

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Theyre gone, byebye

strange depot
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MusicNotes 🎷 OstRich

open marsh
storm jungle
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So, giant rats

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unless they bear the skaven logo they arent skaven

open marsh
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And on Necromunda, it could happen, and noone would care

cerulean wagon
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honestly na

strange depot
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everyone is too busy

cerulean wagon
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id rather get plague tale with smelt rats plz

open marsh
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Genestealer: rise up and take over the second largest hive on the planet.

Lord Helmawr: nukes that hive so hard that the Death Korps of Krieg would be impressed. Because Lord Helmawr doesn't play games.

primal tide
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Rat genestealers

cerulean wagon
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smelt rats where its really at

peak hamlet
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Lord helmawr is a sick mofo

open marsh
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You have to be to be the ruler of Necromunda

cerulean wagon
storm jungle
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Mostly to be grimderp

open marsh
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Like if you were to give me the governorship of Necromunda, I'd probably be dead within a week. Because I might be ex-military, but I am not ruthless enough to survive in that position

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But Helmawr has been it's ruler for most of his life.

storm jungle
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corpse pancakes for breakfast are where its at

open marsh
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I have screen shots from the Hired Guns game that show what corpse starch containers look like.

storm jungle
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very cute

final spruce
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Hired Gun has good map design ye

open marsh
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They are kinda like cans of spam, or a cardboard box which I'm assuming contains dehydrated bars of corpse starch

storm jungle
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I'm surprised Necromunda hasnt been taken over by genestealers yet

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then again it does need to survive for the tabletop stuff

open marsh
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They tried. The poor things

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But this is Necromunda

storm jungle
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So... another hive world

open marsh
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No. Its Necromunda. Necromunda is on a whole different level than your run of the mill hive world

storm jungle
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Having read almost 5 codexes on it not really tbh

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its just more fleshed out if anything

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You could change its name and it wouldnt be that different compared to any other high industrial hive world

cerulean wagon
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pretty much

strange depot
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Necro-FUN-da

open marsh
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I can show you where a Genestealer cult took over a forge world. You know those things that the Mechanicius rule over that they really dont like anyone even getting near