#40k-lore-chat

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storm jungle
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@cerulean wagon Gameplay thingy

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oh god nevermind its in french

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even the subtitles!

gaunt vector
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oh mon dieu

gaunt vector
primal tide
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Get zher in to translate

final spruce
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I am here

gaunt vector
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hello

storm jungle
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zher we got like 25 minutes of footage

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time to get to work

gaunt vector
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did I french correctly?

final spruce
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Right

shell pebble
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Im looking at the gameplay

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Gunplay looks pretty aight

final spruce
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The guild manages the underground, without the Guild there would be only anarchy

shell pebble
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Melee? It doesnt look weighty enough

prime kernel
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ITS GONNA BE OUT IN THE MIDDLE OF THE NIGHT

final spruce
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You think there is no order ? That's because you do'nt see it

prime kernel
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WHO DOES THAT

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WHO !!!

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PRICKS

shell pebble
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Not for me ho ho

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Whips and nae naes

final spruce
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What the gang members are searching for is order, an order they can manipulate at their will

storm jungle
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Lmao

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what a motivation

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in Necromunda of all places btw

prime kernel
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Its the underhive Dilara

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it makes no sense

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yet it exists

final spruce
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An order than allows them to become the boss and not a minion tirelessly working for his house, the Hive-city and the Throne

storm jungle
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Ah okay

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thanks again zher

shell pebble
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^^

final spruce
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We just you don't share the same definition of order

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Nobody wants to attract the attention of the enforcers

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nor the pdf, we prefer our freedom to a life of servitude , so we follow the rules of the Guilds

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Without them, everything would crumble

storm jungle
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ironic

final spruce
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Nobody kills Guilders, unless you're really dangerous or desesperate, the desesperate kind are the most dangerous

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This is why we should work together

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We could be rewarded for killing the assassin of Marro Veerax and reestablish order

cerulean wagon
final spruce
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You see, we are the keepers of this order, even if we cause a little trouble doing so

storm jungle
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๐Ÿ™ Again thanks for the translation Zher, I was just joking about you transalating EVERYTHฤฐNG but its welcome

final spruce
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So interested ? Trust me, its worth it

storm jungle
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it sounds like.... an okay intro

shell pebble
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Im watching more of the melee and man

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Its rough

cerulean wagon
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and whoever is playing is just

shell pebble
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Its trying for DOOM's executions but they're too slow and feel kind of floaty/twitchy

cerulean wagon
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blind

shell pebble
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YEAH THAT MELEE ANIMATION IS BROKEN

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Man oh man

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Gun play looks pretty nice though

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Its just the melee slows down the pacing too much

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And doesnt look great

final spruce
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Chapter 1 :
A member of the mercant's guild was assasinated and there is a huge reward for the head of the responsible, you and 2 mercenaries are prusuing the assassin and think you know where to find him. Attack together and claim the reward

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Jerico's advice : Thanks to their rank, leaders and champions are using force fields, destroy it first.

storm jungle
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wow

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what a tip

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next tip: bullets hurt

final spruce
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I mean good to know the big boys have an additional layer of defense

shell pebble
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Tip: Bullets give bad boo boo :(

barren tapir
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Next one, try to not get hit, it is a life saver

storm jungle
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Yeah but like im pretty sure i know they'd have a shield if i shot at them first

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thats what i meant lmao

final spruce
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Wait the fuck

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Our character begins with a force field

storm jungle
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WUT

shell pebble
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Yep

final spruce
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Graphisms are neat

shell pebble
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I saw him getting shot and they got a shield

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Not lore breaking or anything I think?

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But Id imagine thats tech you usually dont get

cerulean wagon
final spruce
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-We're there

  • You're sure ?
  • Yes.
  • The Black Snakes are hiding there
  • You really sure ?
  • Sure they are in there or sure you're up to it ? Relax its only a handful of Eschers and then, Jackpot
storm jungle
shell pebble
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Dialogue sound funky yo

storm jungle
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Ngl the environments look absolutely gorgeous

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as to be expected

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but the gameplay is like DOOM with a sprained ankle

final spruce
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  • Alright, be ready for everything
  • Relax, they can't cover all the doors, we'll attack them from both sides and since the first floor
barren tapir
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NGL, if i had to face some escher i would be scared too, those gals are crazy

final spruce
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Also keep in mind it might sound cheesy because i'm translating it on the spot

storm jungle
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Yeee thats fair zher

shell pebble
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Doesnt sound cheesy so much as it doesnt flow?

storm jungle
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^

shell pebble
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Like conversation wise

storm jungle
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these are the same guys that mistyped a text on a billboard on one of the trailers

final spruce
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In french its ok

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I think its a language barrier issue

storm jungle
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Yeah i think its them not putting English first in mind maybe?

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yeee

final spruce
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Yay one game I might actually play in french

broken kayak
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Holy Moly c'est amusant !๐Ÿ˜

final spruce
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  • For both of you, the elevators stops here, I need to go deeper
shell pebble
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Heh

final spruce
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  • You and the mutt
  • Yeah, so let's get moving
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  • I can spot the guards
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  • Wait for me to be on the main floor, then shoot as many as possible, they need to understand that they are in trouble
final spruce
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-May the hunt begins

barren tapir
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Ok, that phrase is sick

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And also one that i used quite frequently

final spruce
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  • So this is Escher territory
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So you can dodge like in vermintide but also in the air

storm jungle
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TF2 Scout engage

rotund siren
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I'M RUNNIN' CIRCLES AROUND YOU

broken kayak
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so we will get girl swarms๐Ÿ‘€

final spruce
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So you can also run the walls, which gives you slight aim bot

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It looks gorgeous

rotund siren
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oh boy

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that will be something

final spruce
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  • Open this bloody door !
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Proceeds to kill the servitor

barren tapir
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I... Uh... Don't think it is how it work

final spruce
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  • I'm here, let's do this, we'll regroup to share the reward
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Oh

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So it's a loot&shoot

barren tapir
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Like borderlands?

final spruce
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Seems like it

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  • The boss asked us to stay here, so we stay here !
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  • Nah we must kill those Black Snakes. I can't stand those eschers
peak hamlet
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Escher?

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Im assembling some rn

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I saw that ๐Ÿ‘€

storm jungle
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DFKDS

barren tapir
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We all saw

storm jungle
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yeah Zher is translating the game dialogue for us since its all in french

peak hamlet
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Oi that neat

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Just randomly dropped in

final spruce
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  • So I managed to go past the group of sentinels, you seeing stuff ?
  • Indeed, let's proceed
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So you can execute people in melee

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Big enemies and forcefield users are immuned to executions

storm jungle
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Sounds pretty normal

final spruce
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Stealth kills

storm jungle
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really interested to see how the actual game is like

final spruce
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You can also call your cyber mastiff to deetct hidden enemies

barren tapir
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There is stealth? Now that is getting me interested

final spruce
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Seems so

rotund siren
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but is it just Titanfall 2 stealth or actual stealth?

final spruce
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So the mastif can mark the nemeies Ddog style by highlighting them

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I only saw 1 stealth kill yet

rotund siren
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hmm

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guess we'll see

broken kayak
final spruce
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  • Baetyl is that you ? Where are you ?
  • Third floor, there is someone else there and its not an escher
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  • That's not me stay vigilant
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Oh damn

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That air dodge is pretty smooth

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The revolver doesn't sound great but the autogun does

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Oh : you can regain recently lost health by damaging enemies

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The stealth kills don't look very good tho

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You can also execute enemies on low health, good to know

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The person playing is doing so on a way too high sensivity its unnerving

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  • I'm closing it
  • Hurry up ! We're under fire here !
broken kayak
summer niche
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As is tradition with leaks

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The people laying play as if they've never used a controller in their entire life

final spruce
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  • Oh fuck there are dozen of'em and armed to the teeth ! I'll hold the position until - ARGH
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MC : Baetyl ? Baetyl ? Leto ? What the fuck is going on here

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Leto : Understood, I'm coming

storm jungle
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They shouldnt have trusted Jared Leto

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hes quite the damaged individual

final spruce
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This person has the space awareness of a goldfish its infuriating

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Leto : Shit I need help here ... RIGHT NOW

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MC : Can't handle a few eschers ? What's happening Leto ?

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Leto : Its not -

barren tapir
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Necromunda underhive, escher, not escher... Uhm...

final spruce
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Shadow : How many are there of you guys

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Leto : Go to Hell
Shadow : I'm already there

barren tapir
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I think we already know what are those

final spruce
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So fucking cheesy

storm jungle
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"I'm already there" GOD

final spruce
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MC : Ah fuck, Leto ? Leto ?

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Mc : Bah I should have handled this alone .... I knew it . Always need to work alone

gaunt vector
final spruce
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Escher : Let the brute have some fun

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That ogryn is so fucking bad, I hope its only because of the tutorial

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Damn some executions aren't that bad

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They need to be faster tho

broken kayak
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players character is to OP

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nerf needed

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๐Ÿ˜

final spruce
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?? : Seems like you chose the wrong side vermin. What did you think would happen ?

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Mission accomplished

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Seeing the weapons stats and rarity, definitely a looter shooter

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Martyr's End :
Martyr's end is the biggest colony of the under hive. It's under the ruins of an ancient imperial altar and between multiple abandoned industrial domes, occupied by the Orlock and Golitath gangs. Multiple inhabitants and merchants live there, meanwhile the looters, bounty hunters and local gang members alike of the under world cross it in high numbers. Like with all big settlements, Guilders expect that those that come to Martyr's end put aside their grudges and respect the rules as they are. Surprisingly it works, most of the time ...

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Jericho's advice : The Auto sanguine module restores recently lost health when dealing damage and killing enemies, so don't be shy, else you'll regret it.

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There now I go have my dinner

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Enjoy

gaunt vector
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thank you

barren tapir
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Thanks

storm jungle
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thanks zherlum

final spruce
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๐Ÿ‘

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Hey I got pizza

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It's a good evening

peak hamlet
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Hell yeah

summer niche
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๐Ÿ‘Œ

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I just had burg

final spruce
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borg

summer niche
final spruce
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I never thought the day would come where speaking french would be useful online.
Even more surprised when I realise its for 40k content

summer niche
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Doesn't it help picking up girls when you're out traveling?

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French girls have the cutest accents

final spruce
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Not when you're ugly no

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People seem to have really high standards for how french people should look

summer niche
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Oof

broken kayak
prime kernel
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hang on

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we have dark tide gameplay

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BUT ITS IN FRENCH

barren tapir
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You mean hired gun?

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Because we also have already a translation made by Zherlum

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Just scroll up a bit

final spruce
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Hon hon le Hired Gun

distant parcel
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that pizza looks so good holy

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black olives mmm

plucky moth
cursive hull
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IS that a...

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Isn't it called a flag pizza?

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That classic kind that one queen liked?

final spruce
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Pizza lore is best lore

cursive hull
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Oh, here's some deep Pizza lore.

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In the Aneid, Aneas would know he had reached Italy when he "got hungry enough to eat his table(s)."

When sitting down (In Italy, but he didn't know that.) he ate a flat bread with cheese, meat, and so on. He realized he was technically eating something table shaped.

Aneas literally realized he was in Italy because he was eating pizza.

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THE EMPIRE OF ROME MAY BE GONE, BUT PIZZA IS FOREVER

cloud kindle
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rome lives in our hearts

cursive hull
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And our stomachs.

final spruce
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Ultramarine Pizza time

strange depot
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the Roman Empire isn't gone

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it just rebranded as The Catholic Church

crisp heath
strange depot
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I'm thinking it'll be reasonable?

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they are at least charging in the mid-range

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plenty of other devs would be going 60/70 for the same game

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I've bought it so I'm fine with giving my thoughts next week

crisp heath
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I have a friend comparing it to Prey 2 in terms how he thinks it may look/play, but I am skeptical it will uh be to that level of quality given the infamy surrounding 40k games

strange depot
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I mean Other Prey is terrible

final spruce
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To me Hired feels like a mix of doom and borderlands

strange depot
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so long as it's not serious

final spruce
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If they made the animations a bit faster for executions the game would be really cool

crisp heath
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Well there we go, if anyone here picks it up and remembers my name, DM me your thoughts after the first day-two of playing it

strange depot
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but not Borderlands "Funny"

final spruce
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Plus we havent seen grappling hook gameplay

strange depot
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I fucking hate the humour in Borderlands

plucky moth
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Hired Gun to me feels like a 40k looter shooter

final spruce
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Its doom looter shooter

crisp heath
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I think there is a grappling hook usage in 1-2 of the trailers, but perhaps you meant detailed showing of it's mechanics* \

final spruce
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Yeah in gameplay, i dont trust trailers

plucky moth
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Games should just use my humour tbh

odd sparrow
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Puns

strange depot
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the insta-kill execution stuff is weird and that 25 min vid online makes the shooting look bad but the person playing also clearly doesn't know what hands are for

crisp heath
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I will be pre-ordering/getting Darktide day 1.

final spruce
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But the game seems to be quite fast paced, the melee seem a bit lackluster but the ranged

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I think Ill buy it

strange depot
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if Darktide has early access, I'll buy right now

final spruce
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Ill have a fun time

crisp heath
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Yeah the trailers have made it look good, it just hasn't been on my radar till like this week

strange depot
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until they say that I will wait till the last day

coarse mirage
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Trailers lie

vagrant osprey
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I want Darktide to be dark satire, the way 40k was intended to be.

storm jungle
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no

cursive hull
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Honestly, trying to be satire of the current climate would just be sad.

rotund siren
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lmao could you imagine

primal tide
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Borderlands 3 tried to do a modern satire on social media culture

coarse mirage
rotund siren
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Then you just imagined it

shell pebble
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Current political climate would be horrible to satirize

primal tide
shell pebble
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There's already enough shit from Steam Forums talking about that stuff that it really dampers my mood

strange depot
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they tried to do a satire of social media culture from about 2012

storm jungle
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Are you telling me its time

strange depot
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someone's mood needs dampening?

storm jungle
strange depot
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like this?

storm jungle
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Interesting...

strange depot
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I don't know if they are really real or just an internet joke but... marketing execs do exist and I have read about the shit they think is really in

storm jungle
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Im pretty sure its real

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you got no idea the amount of dumb stuff people buy

strange depot
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I am fully aware of dumb purchases

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I have rules I apply to myself to limit my dumb purchases because I have low impulse control

storm jungle
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completely fair

strange depot
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buyer's remorse is real and expensive

storm jungle
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anyway i should delete that image lmao

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no evidence Eyes

primal tide
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I didn't get it

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๐Ÿ˜•

storm jungle
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pats

final spruce
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Aw

visual pumice
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i saw ir

strange depot
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yes, leave the piss jeans

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everyone needs to see they are the new hotness

visual pumice
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wet look, dry feel

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ultimate tagline

primal tide
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What about the reverse

visual pumice
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better tagline

strange depot
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whoever posted Adeptus Ridiculous eps here, thank you, it's fucking great

serene thorn
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Reading Gaunt's Ghosts just makes me wanna play this game and hope that we can have a Tanith camo cloak. Gonna be Fethin' awesome

potent swift
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So I did some googling and I'll be damned, the Stryite I mentioned over in #40k-minis-and-armies are actually a canon Xenos. Apparently the Blood Angels fought 'em in 3rd edition.

barren tapir
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So nothing exactly new... Nice... It seems that GW is looking at the past instead of making new stuff that could contradict already established lore

vast frigate
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Or theyre freshening up old lore

barren tapir
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That too

coarse mirage
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No sarcasm. Reality is absurd.

coarse mirage
summer niche
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Fingers crossed for info on e3

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Well, Microsoft/beth conference

coarse mirage
summer niche
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Just werk

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Tell me lies, tell me sweet little lies~

shell pebble
coarse mirage
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Well the virus has really helped throw shit up and we've gotten to see more and more of the clown world.

summer niche
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Honestly modern satire is pretty bad

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Cause it consists of making fun of trump

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That's it

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I wouldn't want orangeman bad jokes in 40k

shell pebble
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^^

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It doesn't fit with 40k in anyway and those jokes are just bad

odd sparrow
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40k satire works best when it's sorta indirect

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as in here's this system or problem from the real world except it's made 400% worse to hilarious extents

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like imperial bureaucracy, headass decades to even notice a planet has defected

coarse mirage
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40k satirises itself in a way

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By being so ridiculous

odd sparrow
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or here's bloodsucking capitalists who literally put their citizens in debt for the rights to be born

frosty cobalt
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yea every terrible aspect of humanity ramped up to 10,000 and taken to a Hilariously Terrible conclusion

summer niche
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For sure

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||and in a way we already have orangeman bad jokes, the csm keep screaming about corpse emperors||

frosty cobalt
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if there is humor in darktide id want it to just be gallows humor of why they are all here

summer niche
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There will without a doubt be gallow humor if we're penal legion

frosty cobalt
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or just the priestess being terribly rude to the poor orgyn, and he just wants to be her friend cause she talks about the emperor alot and has a cool hammer

shell pebble
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I wouldn't mind some very small bits of wholesome humor, like the ogyrn loves the Emperor because he's shiny, cool, and the commissar he worked for before loved him alot

summer niche
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I just hope we get unique characters compared to Vermintide

frosty cobalt
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Guard 1: do we get sick days?
Guard 2, pulling chainsword from plaugehost: ya know, if you wanna take that up with the inquisitor, be my guest

summer niche
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Like not just copy-pasteed personalities

atomic pelican
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Are you implying VT personalities are copypasted

shell pebble
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Vermintide feels pretty unique personality wise

summer niche
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No no

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Like i don't want another ubersreik five but in 40k

atomic pelican
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Oh yeah

summer niche
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Like priest being a sassy sienna

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I really like the characters in Vermintide, i just want something new

frosty cobalt
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i want the priest to be so fuckin fanatic

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like worse than mr witchhunter from vt (i dont know the names srry)

summer niche
frosty cobalt
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Guard 1, from an agri world pdf: Throne, these poor people. I hope they find solace by the Emperors side
Guard 2, from a penal legion: Yea, Yea. Hey, hand me any shiny things you see, kay?

shell pebble
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Im afraid of some of the characters being same-y in terms of beliefs

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Or no

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More like they'll always be like "For the Emperor!"

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Especially the priest

summer niche
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We will defi have one character like that

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Big doubt all of them would be

shell pebble
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Oh I get one of them

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Im afraid that most of the cast will be like that

summer niche
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Ohh yeah

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That she is one dimensional

shell pebble
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Yeh

summer niche
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Feels like saltzpyre is pretty multidimensional

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So it should be fine

shell pebble
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I hope so

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Saltzy is pretty cool and does have a multi-faceted character

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I think my worry stems from the fact that in Vermintide, the cast is full of misfits from different societies

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But here, we're in a world where the majority of human-ran worlds worship the same thing, and we're just playing humans

summer niche
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I think you'd be surprised

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Have you read eisenhorn or any other Inquisitor book?

shell pebble
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I havent read any 40k books tbh

summer niche
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Trust me, we can most defi get misfits

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Everything from rowdy and crude gangers

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To morphing assassins

shell pebble
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Damn imagine one of the characters was a former ganger

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That's possible, yeah?

summer niche
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Some Inquisitors even have xenos in their retinue

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Without a doubt, but we don't really know what fatshark is going for

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But the potential is as wide as humanity itself

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You could literally find anything in a retinue if the inqusitor finds you useful for her purposes

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Mind you it's still a bit unsure how much of a inqusitor retinue we are really

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We know an inqusitor commands us

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But uhh that's it i think

shell pebble
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We know that the inquisitor is described as elusive, which probably implies hes one of the more radical ones or hes something completely out there

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Hes actually an ork

summer niche
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Could be ye

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So yeah if fatshark has imagination which Vermintide has shown they do

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We will be fine

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But yeah we could technically just end up with a bunch of vanilla guards i suppose lul

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Gaunts ghosts has a bunch of soldier types with intersting personalities

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So that could prob work too

shell pebble
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Definitely definitely

crisp heath
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How can a space marine get so damaged their only option is being turned into a dreadnought? Like what kind of wounds are incapable of repair?

summer niche
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Story damage

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Reverse plot-armour

frosty cobalt
summer niche
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Or if you're ironhands just replace it all

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But yeah i kinda get your question, what's stopping them from just giving them the admech treatment?

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CawlMarines

frosty cobalt
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Cause dreads are grimdark, simple as

summer niche
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For aure

crisp heath
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It seems like they'd die or get better from anything that doesn't kill them

cerulean wagon
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I think tis because they try and keep the sacred image of a marine as much as possible. Minor modifications are allowed but you never see like, a tech marine with 30 mechadendrites

frosty cobalt
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Yea thats the problem. The line between insta dead marine and walk it off marine is not shown often

cerulean wagon
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So when you are damaged to the point of being unable to hold that image any longer you are placed within your "resting place", so as not to despoil that image, while allowing you to continue service

frosty cobalt
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We never really see the selection process/entombment

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Yea

summer niche
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But ye good answer skele

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The image is important

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Can't have them looking like Cawl monstrosities

frosty cobalt
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Yea thats why most dreads are heroes

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Champions and the like

summer niche
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They must look human, since they are their defenders

cursive hull
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Always imagined it as being dreadnought-worthy after losing your lower half or being horribly murdered by toxins to the point where the space marine physiology can't repair the damage even with help, etc.

cerulean wagon
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You are an angel of death, a manifestation of the emperors divine will. No force is powerful enough to corrupt you or change your form, you are eternal and unchanging.

something like that, its a moral/propaganda thing as much as it is useful to have a big fucking mech

crisp heath
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I'm sure most here are familiar with Tankred the extent of his damage would have most likely been just severe mutilation, likely to the point where as Skeleton put it he would no longer look human then? (He died fighting Khorne marines?)

frosty cobalt
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Dreads are great, cause its shown as being awful for the pilot, but a great honor. A perfect example of the imperium.

cursive hull
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(Also, frankly, its also done just to keep the marine around because they might have a ton of helpful experience to hand down to their battlebrothers.)

crisp heath
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Yeah the latest iterations are completely grimderp hue hue hue they kill their user in under a century of use mechanicus didn't care at all about the pilot

cerulean wagon
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which isnt true considering like

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some dreads are what, a thousand years old?

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10 thousand?

crisp heath
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Yeah no the reason for their existance isn't really what I question, I see the practicality of mobile life support for a battle hardened veteran, it's just like some have already pointed out the line between recoverable wounds/non recoverable isn't well documented

crisp heath
cerulean wagon
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oh primaris lore

crisp heath
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With my comment about the "latest iteration" I was specifically referring to these ones here, they are more powerful but yeah

cerulean wagon
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ye ofc its garbage

crisp heath
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lol

frosty cobalt
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Yea battery dreads bleck

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They look terrible aswell imo

cursive hull
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Part of why I really don't want Primaris to replace Firstborn.

Primaris lore is (mostly) garbage or confusing.

cerulean wagon
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The best way i can describe current 40k additional lore is it is anything that already exists in the lore, taken to the extreme for reactions

cursive hull
cerulean wagon
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Lore for warhammer models feels like weird clickbait

crisp heath
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Eh yeah I am not a fan of most of the primaris tech looks, it's too clean, smooth, in a way almost looks advanced without actually being advanced

frosty cobalt
# cursive hull Solid disagree.

For a mech they look alright. For a 40k mech, with the WW1 heavy industry look it looks awful. Same with most other primaris vics

cerulean wagon
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i think of all the new primaris models

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the dread is one of the ones i dont hate

cursive hull
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For the hover vehicles? Yes that looks too clean and advanced.

cerulean wagon
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because it has a lot of the old dread bits in there and then had additions built around it

cursive hull
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But that Dread is just a bigger castraferrum

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Its like a Castraferrum with the proportions of a Contemptor.

frosty cobalt
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I cant help but see the lifter suit from aliens with armor

cerulean wagon
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you can even remove the addon armour and the front plate layout is the same as standard SM dread

frosty cobalt
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But thats my opinion

cerulean wagon
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cause its literaly like a sheath over the sarcophagus

cursive hull
cerulean wagon
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nore do i

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the only one that matches is the one with roll cages

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which i do hate

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the one posted above is fine

cursive hull
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Also yeah, that one walker with the cage is really... Not great.

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But the Redemptor Dreadnought is just a big Castraferrum

frosty cobalt
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The hight and width of the shoulders, i like the other dreads for their squatness

cerulean wagon
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but ye the main reason im fine with the new dread is this

frosty cobalt
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Thats what bothers me

cerulean wagon
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its literaly a standard dread underneath, with addon armour

frosty cobalt
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The legs look v different

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Its all the techy bits, id love it if it wasnt 40k

cerulean wagon
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its just hydraulics

frosty cobalt
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But i love the metal boxes look for SM too much

cerulean wagon
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its not exactly techy

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even old dread has that

frosty cobalt
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But again, my opinion

cerulean wagon
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the only real difference is the new model has knees

frosty cobalt
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And i dont like them haha

odd sparrow
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the weird walker is beyond odd, it looks like a half finished dreadnought some dude commandeered

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but the new dreadnoughts are good imo

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the old ones are just like, idk too clunky for me. Primaris can be sorta boring but i like most of their designs

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they're well designed models that are obviously not from the 80s lol

cerulean wagon
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i like the old ones still but the legs could do with an update

cursive hull
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Yeah...

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The Castraferrum is showing its age.

frosty cobalt
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Like i said im a fan of the metal boxes, they just feel more brutal. Seeing one of those toss a carnifex around would be cooler than the more modern looking one IMO

odd sparrow
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ye they're showing their age badly

cursive hull
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They don't need to go fully contemptor or redemptor

odd sparrow
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they're so old they not only have bad knees

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they've lost them entirely

primal tide
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I love the leviathan dread the most I think

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Ultimate chonk

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The castaferrum is a classic but the legs are a little too idk, orkish looking at this point in the way that they don't look like they'd work very well

cursive hull
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Kinda agree

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The Castra is a classic

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But it could use better legs.

frosty cobalt
odd sparrow
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that is true tbh

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low centre of gravity

coarse tree
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Couldn't a Null really mess up the Tyranids?

primal tide
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nah, theyd just eat them

frosty cobalt
cursive hull
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It'd certainly help for a minute or two, since the Tyranid forms might turn on one another

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But yeah

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They'd eventually eat the null if he or she didn't skedaddle.

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It'd definitely help against a Zoanthrope though.

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Can't shoot mind bullets if the Null cuts the Zoanthrope off from the warp.

storm jungle
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@barren tapir Some religious dumps from that new Godblight novel

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Divinity discussion from the new book "Godblight" is a must read. It's basically Gulliman calling his chief psyker and an Eldar Farseer (ambassador) for a talk. The below isn't direct spoilers, just some notes in what lines the discussion goes:

They touch upon what is godhood in 40k. How there are different types of gods (cthan are not at all like warp gods etc), how their strength can vary dramatically and so on. Then there is the importance of faith. Mostly how faith can be seen as humanities current greatest strength and weakness all at once. How the current power that comes from faith (hinthint sisters) might not even have too much to do with Big E himself. It's the imperium and its trillions of souls shaping reality with it. How this means the -SUFFERING- of the current imperium is also pushing things to dark place. There is so much misery, pain and that effects what human souls do to the warp.

Then bit more how big e was plenty wrong (Gulliman sure loves to talk about that) and dundunnn ...is he a god or not? The answer obviously remaining vague and lots of fun theories were slapped up. The Farseer had the greatest hindsight and she didn't really dismiss or confirm any, merely noted that there are so many types gods out there and that some are very ancient and terrible, yet so far away. Also that the fact Big E -was- mortal means nothing. That faith and countless eons upon the golden throne have ripped away his mortality, but maybe not. The one thing that the psyker and farseer did agree upon easily was that his light that guides them is of pain.

She also asked what will he do when he is seen as a god? He can reject it all he wants, but has he not noticed that victory seems to often follow him and his presence sparks hope? That does he truly believe that all of this is just him over the trillions just having faith? Very neato

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They touch about Big E and his wants a bit too.
First, he can't prevent it and what he truly wants -now- is a mystery. Gulliman confirmed Big E had every religious thing smashed, even a small shamans hut, but now..? Now it's hard to tell. The Emperor is not the same anymore.

Secondly, it was noted that if it would actually doom humanity is hard to say. The Farseer outright said that is especially hard to tell. I also liked that some Eldar do very much think big E is sstill a great hope for the galaxy while many more see him as just an echo, that "painful and fading light" that tries to guide as many as it can before being snuffed out.

Also things still fucked. Humanity can't use webway without their allies and Eldar can't deal with some chaos threats like they used to because the new warp stuff makes everything 100x worse
So there is a mutual alliance as alternative is everyone blowing up.

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tltr: Everythings a mess

visual pumice
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I love the art

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Guilliman seems more of a realist than youโ€™d think aswell

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I dig that

storm jungle
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Yeah its... weird

visual pumice
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I know fuck all about the lore so anything is cool to me

storm jungle
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lmao thats fair atlas lul

visual pumice
#

I like world building stuff and conflicting viewpoints

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On said world

barren tapir
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Thank you @storm jungle, it is indeed extremely interesting... Nothing new for me though... Just confirm my theories

storm jungle
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lmao yeah

barren tapir
#

I always thought that faith powers were just a human waaagh thing, regarding big E suffering it was revealed by Dan in his interview...
I don't get what big E was wrong about, but probably is some shit talk about the Imperial Truth...
It is really interesting the question of what big G will do when people start seeing him as a god too, the same we know is happening to the custodes too...
The thing about what big E want is just to let open all the doors imo...
It is indeed interesting to know that even some of the eldar see big E as the greatest hope for the galaxy though...

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That mean that the eldar knew about him even before the great crusade and shiz... This mean that a more close alliance with the eldar isn't too improbable in the future

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Which IDK if it is good, as it may water down some factions

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Oh, and btw, thanks for pinging me with those info @storm jungle, i really appreciate that

storm jungle
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@barren tapir Anytime my dude

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ngl though i felt like all those went around in circles

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pretty much everything we still knew:

  • Faith is an unknown power
  • it defeats chaos etc
barren tapir
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Some of those topics were badly approached imo

storm jungle
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Yeeee

barren tapir
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Like how big E approached religions in the last church

storm jungle
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Yeah i like how they try to tiptoe around that lol

barren tapir
#

I mean, the eldar telling big G that he can reject he is a god all he want but have to notice that everywhere he go victory follow and his presence spark hope...
Well yeah, when you are 100x more capable than the more capable person of that era victory tend to be nearly assured, although we know he can be defeated... And yes, when you are the example of a golden age, and a lot of people see you as more than an human it is obvious that hope will rise... What kind of crap reasoning is that??

storm jungle
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Yep its what I meant too

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its... bizarre in some parts

jagged ember
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even though big e hate prasing him as god but

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in 10k years he getting billions of prayers each day

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made him stronger than before he got memed by horus

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:D

final spruce
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But Dilara

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Ynnari and Imperium were already allies

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So the books solidifies it

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Mmmmh

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Great alliance Ynnari / Imperium soon ?

jagged ember
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Well Ynnari and Imperiums alliance kinda wage

final spruce
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Since the Gulliman / Yvraine treaty it didn't seem to wage too much

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Gulliman was a bit skeptical about eldars honoring their ends but they did

jagged ember
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I'm worried about Imperium

final spruce
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Plus they finally made the half eldar librarian ultramarines not canon

jagged ember
#

it has so many factions and stuff

final spruce
#
  • Astra Milaiturm
  • Space marines
  • SoB
  • Custodes
  • Admech

From memory

jagged ember
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If Inquisiton decied to attack

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them guilliman can't do anything about it

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:l

final spruce
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He can shoot them

jagged ember
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Well he needs to shoot every regiment

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end stuff :l

final spruce
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Plus he is technically the High Marshal something aka he is considered the Emperor's voice so above everything, including the inquisition

jagged ember
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Inquisiont will only answer the emperor and noothing else

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Inquisition doesn't work like that

final spruce
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Especially since now he has all the new High lords in his pockets thanks to his 6D chess move

jagged ember
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Inqisition is not bond to Imperium hierarchy

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Only Emperor order them not even guilliman

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Doesn't matter if High lords like guilliman

final spruce
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He isn't a high lord

storm jungle
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Bro

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the inquisition isnt that powerful lmao

mint hill
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They are.

storm jungle
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you make them sound like they can do anything they want without any consequences

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they arent

final spruce
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Plus Gulliman is the fucking Imperial Regent

storm jungle
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^

final spruce
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The living voice of the Emperor

mint hill
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They can use any means to do 'the emperors will'

final spruce
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If the Inquisition attacks him, he has the right to nuke em and even brand them heretics

storm jungle
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No, theres a reason every inquisitors shoots other inquisitors all the time, they cant do what they want without someone judging them on it

jagged ember
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but there is noting stoping them

storm jungle
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Custodians for one

jagged ember
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second I didn't say they will attack guilliman

mint hill
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They don't shoot eachother, they send their cronies to try and assassinate eachother.

jagged ember
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I said they can attack the eldar

storm jungle
final spruce
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Hell there is a whole fucking 3 book serie about how he has all the hard time of the world to reach his goal of Imperial regent with both the Inquisition and the High Lords blocking his way

storm jungle
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it happens in almost like 6 books

prisma lark
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even most Inquisitors know better than to fuck with a 1st founding chapter, I don't see them going after a Primarch

storm jungle
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theres literal ordos made to watch other ordos

jagged ember
storm jungle
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ffs

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see the meme above lol

jagged ember
storm jungle
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The memes play their authority too much

jagged ember
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:l

storm jungle
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its a temporary alliance anyway

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if any inquisitor did that they'd be harshly judged and disappear

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so yeah, think

jagged ember
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I can expect everything from them at this point :l

storm jungle
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Radicals dont really count, its why they're called radicals

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lol

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so yeah again, no

jagged ember
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:l

storm jungle
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Have you ever read Eisenhorn lol

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by the end of it he becomes branded as a radical and literally loses almost all his influence and power because of it

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thats like me taking a cop badge and saying im a policeman

final spruce
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Eisenhorn gets excluded from the Inquisition twice If my memory serves right

storm jungle
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without influence to back it up a badge doesnt mean anything

jagged ember
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Yes but there are still so many radicals counts as Inquisators :l

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you can't exclude them

storm jungle
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....

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Thats literally what I just said

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they are canonically excluded

final spruce
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Hell you'd get a medal for shooting one

storm jungle
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^

final spruce
jagged ember
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not every radical Inqusator are Execumonicated

final spruce
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Those that get caught do

jagged ember
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but most of them gets excomunicated

storm jungle
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Their experimentation with these forces often leads to them being branded heretics, or succumbing to the very power they sought to control.

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They are considered the lowest of the low

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They dont have proper authority or influence

jagged ember
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and don't count them as Inquisators

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:l

storm jungle
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I really dont understand what you're trying to prove lul

jagged ember
storm jungle
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So, nothing then

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seems about right

jagged ember
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My point is you can be radical and not get excomunicated

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:l

storm jungle
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You can

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for fuck sakes lmao

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As zherlum says you just need to get caught

jagged ember
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Yeah I know :l

storm jungle
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So again, no point

jagged ember
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though

storm jungle
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Its not really one when it doesnt make sense

final spruce
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I think you are thinking of OLD 40k inquisition Konstantin

storm jungle
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^

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or just the ones in memes

final spruce
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An inquisition where the High Lords were traitors and nobody could command the Inquisition

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But things change, Gulliman is ACTIVELY making sure the Inquisition stops their pwoer tripping and now has High Lords that are a bit more "fair" and loyal.

storm jungle
#

๐Ÿ‘†

final spruce
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Plus Gulliman being the Emperor as ruling goes, he is the direct commander of the Inquisition

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Like I said, 3 damn books where he tries to solve the big issue that is the Inquisition

jagged ember
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I don't think every Inquisator will listen to him

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:l

storm jungle
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And they'll be executed accordingly

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๐Ÿคทโ€โ™€๏ธ

final spruce
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Because their authority wasn't opposed for so long they began doing so much useless shit

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And infighting

jagged ember
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Inquisators are hard to find

storm jungle
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No they arent lmao

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also how long will they last without any allies or influence to back them up? Not much thats for sure

final spruce
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I mean its simple, brand the inquisitor as a heretic, and say that anybody that kills them will take their previous place

storm jungle
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^

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You really need to drop this view of thinking the inquisition is invincible.

final spruce
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Boom now the inquisitor might be killed by his own crew

storm jungle
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they're their own worst enemy

jagged ember
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:l

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powerful

storm jungle
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Your points go from one way to the other so excuse me for being so confused lol

final spruce
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I mean the Inquisitors are a super trained elite secret police force

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Yes they can be hard to find when they want

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Yes they can hide their heretical activities for a while

mint hill
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they aren't really

final spruce
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But they aren't invincible

storm jungle
mint hill
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they have a specilized feild they go into. Xenos, Heretics etc

jagged ember
storm jungle
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but yeah sure

final spruce
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I mean he is right he can't control all of them

storm jungle
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Oh yeah, theres just too many

final spruce
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But he can brand rightfully those guys heretics and take their powers away

storm jungle
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Yep

final spruce
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And now you're just a random imperial guy with good training and cursed knowledge

storm jungle
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but at core their job is to be the secret police and well, police the imperium

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its why radicals just get ousted immedeately

final spruce
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  • like said earlier there is a branch who's only job is to watch other inquisitors
jagged ember
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Radicals ftw

storm jungle
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What now

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holy shit

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its in the lore, i dont know what so hard to understand

barren tapir
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An inquisitor can be a radical and not being excomunicated, but that doesn't mean that he wouldn't be watched closely by everyone else...

storm jungle
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THANK YOU

jagged ember
barren tapir
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Also the chronostrife is an example of inquisitors trying to mess up with big G... Or the story of big G little friend

final spruce
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Let's stop ganging up on the child and go about our day

storm jungle
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Yeah i agree

final spruce
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Oh -15% on hired gun let's go

barren tapir
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Lol

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That is a weird start for it

jagged ember
storm jungle
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Thats not a good sign either

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lmao

final spruce
storm jungle
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Oh good

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i was actually worried

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lol

final spruce
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I mean even TWWW2 was on sale for 15% off during the pre order

barren tapir
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Ah, so it is the pre order sale

visual pumice
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Every tww2 dlc is discounted for preorder aswell

barren tapir
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Well, then it is all fine

final spruce
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Plus the game looks like one I'll have fun with

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So I don't mind

final spruce
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Managed to get it at -20% witht he pre-order bonus, is a good day

jagged ember
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I didn't like the game though

final spruce
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You are allowed to

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I'm just glad they managed to back to their roots and got a better shooty eye

frosty cobalt
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Looking at a star map, i love the amount of โ€œenemyโ€ planets close to terra. Perfect representation of the imperium

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โ€œWe are an unassailable golden wall pay no attention to the gsc world and the iron warrior fortressโ€

storm jungle
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Oh yeah the entire irony is that the Imperium is surrounded by enemies both from beyond and within

frosty cobalt
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Yea but the fact that theres like super hated enemies that close to terra makes it even better

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Its like hearing a super racist white dude saying that his town is clean and pure, right outside a Mexican restaurant or smth like that

crisp heath
storm jungle
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the truth must be told

frosty cobalt
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Shame dorn cant do much about the dark mechanicum world in segmetum solar. I think knowing that it is there probably would tick him off

frosty cobalt
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@storm jungle im guessing thats ur female heads on the primaris post? Cause they look Way Too Gahtdamn Good

storm jungle
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Oh no

frosty cobalt
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Im just saying that it looks great for a shop job

storm jungle
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Its not even a shop job actually, i really did it just from some cropping app on my phone lol

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But sorry, thanks โค๏ธ

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I was too afraid of posting it originally as to not piss off the chuds

frosty cobalt
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Still looks great. That raven guard has me questioning my loyalty to the greater good

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Fuck the chuds!

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They can choke and die mad about it

storm jungle
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lmao

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i like how most of the comments said the same thing

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but yeah again thanks, i really was just experimenting more than anything else

cursive hull
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Looks okay to me.

storm jungle
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Thanks. I think.

cerulean wagon
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honestly just looks like a dude with emo hair ngl

storm jungle
frosty cobalt
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Tfw no ultramarine primaris goth gf

storm jungle
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lol

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but yeah its alright

summer niche
frosty cobalt
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Ngl i never understood โ€œbut teh lore!!!โ€ arguments cause. If i was a SM recruiter and saw some lil girl beating up bullies or some shit id grab them right away

storm jungle
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Eh its more to make marines unique

barren tapir
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?? What are we talking about?

storm jungle
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also GW probably doesnt want to hurt the fanbase much

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idk

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its something

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im not a board member lol

storm jungle
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dont tell him

frosty cobalt
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Lols if u wanna post it u do it, its ur post

storm jungle
barren tapir
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Ah, i missed a Dilara post

cursive hull
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TBH if there ever was to be female marines?

I feel like that's the way to do it.

Female heads on current models.

storm jungle
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Yeah i dont want boobplate

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They'd look cool just in regular astartes armor

frosty cobalt
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Yuss those edits look fantastic, no extra bits required

storm jungle
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Stormcast heads are the way to go

frosty cobalt
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Also boob plate sucks for both realism and just plain cringe

summer niche
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Maybe they wouldn't look so uncanny if their heads were on space marines instead

storm jungle
summer niche
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Ngl i like boobs and boobplate

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Fite me

frosty cobalt
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โ€œAh yes deflect the enemyโ€™s attack right into the middle of my chestโ€

storm jungle
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Yeah 40k does boobplates fine

cursive hull
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Depends on how its manufactured

storm jungle
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i just dont want it on space marine armor

summer niche
cursive hull
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Besides that, there is a way to do "Chest" on armor

barren tapir
#

I just wanted some info... And yet here i am... Infoless

storm jungle
storm jungle
cursive hull
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Its not actually for women, but it'd work okay in concept to indicate a woman in armor

storm jungle
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Yeah like im 100% sure if GW made them they'd try to find some way to implement boob armor like the stormcasts

frosty cobalt
cursive hull
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There's still a way to do boob plate that isn't bad though.

frosty cobalt
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Its not gonna deflect a thrust right into your sternum

storm jungle
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pew pew

frosty cobalt
peak hamlet
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Yeah im not a huge fan of boob plate either

cursive hull
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Me neither.

But it can be done well

peak hamlet
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Its just unneccessary, a regular breastplate will work better and provide enought space (only up to a certain limit ofc)

peak hamlet
frosty cobalt
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Also like im assuming that they just,,,,,,,lop them off? If there were fem marines in canon. Cause arnt all marines castrated?

storm jungle
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LOL NO

frosty cobalt
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Pft i dont know

storm jungle
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Thats just a REALLY bad rumor

frosty cobalt
#

Im a tau player

storm jungle
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It honestly depends from chapter to chapter if you want to go into any detail

frosty cobalt
#

Hm valid. Im just thinking from like a bioenginer standpoint like what benifit does genitalia have for murdermachines?

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Prolly stuff some extra adrenal glands in there imo

storm jungle
cursive hull
#

I always presumed the astartes process rendered them nonfunctional

storm jungle
#

looks at my fanfics

peak hamlet
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I dont see a purpose in having balls on you marines

frosty cobalt
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Yea like isnt that the thing? They are Transhumans? So like it really wouldnt matter who ur grabbing for the process

frosty cobalt
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Im sorry for ruining ur lemons

peak hamlet
storm jungle
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Nah its okay, fanon is the way to go lol

frosty cobalt
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As with everything

peak hamlet
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Will you post it?

storm jungle
#

...

frosty cobalt
#

Yea where the smut huh

storm jungle
#

No. Its private.

atomic pelican
#

๐Ÿ˜ณ

frosty cobalt
#

Lols nwnw

odd sparrow
#

oh my fucking god is this another space marine dong convo

frosty cobalt
#

Yup

storm jungle
odd sparrow
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im gonna off myself

atomic pelican
#

Honestly spacw marine dong convo is on the upscale

frosty cobalt
#

I NEED ANSWERS

visual pumice
#

hurr durr

odd sparrow
#

SoB titty convo is one i haven't encountered i dont think

storm jungle
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JUST GO WITH YES

frosty cobalt
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listen if im a SM imma tell the apothecary to lop it off i dont need another weakspot

visual pumice
#

false

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enhance

peak hamlet
#

A pee hole is enought, i bet they don't even have dicks anymore

storm jungle
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How would you know

odd sparrow
#

I'm tightening the noose

frosty cobalt
#

Where that fackin newspaper emoji when u need it

visual pumice
#

they have cod pieces

odd sparrow
#

also tbh like

visual pumice
#

implying existence of cod

atomic pelican
#

Fish armor

visual pumice
peak hamlet
storm jungle
cursive hull
peak hamlet
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Having no armor there would be a potential weakspot to let projectiles enter your body

visual pumice
#

the have a bump

odd sparrow
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projectiles can enter my body~

atomic pelican
#

Ur gonna get it

frosty cobalt
#

Really needing that newspaper emoji

visual pumice
#

funny bonk meme

peak hamlet
odd sparrow
#

all space marines have 10 inch schlongs

peak hamlet
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๐Ÿ˜ณ

odd sparrow
#

there we go end of discussion

visual pumice
#

thanks

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now we know

peak hamlet
odd sparrow
#

my wisdom is infinite

visual pumice
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let it be know

frosty cobalt
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Cool still gonna ask the apothecary for a lot off the top

storm jungle
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@crisp heath Boreale since you're the chapter master what do you think on space marine dongs

frosty cobalt
peak hamlet
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Thats going to turn into another serious 10 hour convo

storm jungle
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Im sorry I had to lul

odd sparrow
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I can and will mute this channel

frosty cobalt
visual pumice
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oh no

crisp heath
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Sorry to make non-SM players jealous of our cocks

visual pumice
peak hamlet
storm jungle
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See? Never dissapoints

frosty cobalt
crisp heath
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Huh

frosty cobalt
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Wait does this mean the blood ravens stole all the pipe from the other chapters

storm jungle
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This guy is awful i love him

crisp heath
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Including yours of course

visual pumice
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i love and hate the term "pipe"

frosty cobalt
cursive hull
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This is just what my life is now

crisp heath
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Don't lie to me

storm jungle
# frosty cobalt Why

The joke is that boreale acts like a brainwashed chud and we cant tell if hes being serious or not.

frosty cobalt
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I was just wondering a simple bioengineer question, and it turns into this

odd sparrow
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tbh this is nothing remarkable we have it like weekly

frosty cobalt
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Oh ive seen

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Dont worry

odd sparrow
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it's this and like

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the are DKoK french or german one

crisp heath
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--Constantly announces lack of intelligence whenever I'm around--

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Kinda weird

frosty cobalt
crisp heath
odd sparrow
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ftr they're actually indonesian

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but that's besides the point

atomic pelican
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Actually theyre from krieg smh

odd sparrow
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doubt

peak hamlet
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From a "creating super human weapons of death for the single purpose of WAR" they don't need cocks. On the other hand m u r d e r c o c k

atomic pelican
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Omg!!

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Purestrain vented

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S s s

cursive hull
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I still say the Krieg look better in French blue

peak hamlet
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Agreed

atomic pelican
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I prefer krieg in their classic look

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dead

peak hamlet
storm jungle
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AAA

visual pumice
#

steps on landmine

frosty cobalt
atomic pelican
odd sparrow
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praetorians > all other ig regs

atomic pelican
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I would use their models as corpse deco but Im not buying $90 infantry kits

odd sparrow
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change my mind

visual pumice
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are they the cool roman doods

odd sparrow
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nah they're like

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boer war ish brits

storm jungle
odd sparrow
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I still highkey need to find some imperial british kits that are like, actually the right scale that i can use them with IG bits

frosty cobalt
visual pumice
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Oh they're sick as fuck

frosty cobalt
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Cool models

atomic pelican
odd sparrow
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using orks as the stand in for zulus is uhh

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a thing yes

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But still!

crisp heath
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I get it, you don't want me to respond

frosty cobalt
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Cool models

crisp heath
#

Honestly like just playing Xenos just shows I'm above you

storm jungle
peak hamlet
crisp heath
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Who are you?

visual pumice
odd sparrow
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It doesn't seem that bad to me

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like

atomic pelican
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The chad praetor, not british

frosty cobalt
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Its not horrible but it could be better

storm jungle
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The british had some cool uniforms and thats what they're going for

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but yeah i can see why it would be taken the wrong way

peak hamlet
visual pumice
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it is just zulu war british men with robot parts

storm jungle
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Yeah i dont read much into it

crisp heath
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Yeah, so who are you

storm jungle
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it looks cool

crisp heath
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Cause you're nothing from what I can see

odd sparrow
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u wanna give them the small force holding out against way numerically superior attackers rorkes drift thing and there's not v many factions that won't seem a lil bit offensive using them as the zulu stand in there

frosty cobalt
storm jungle
visual pumice
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destoryied

gaunt vector
odd sparrow
atomic pelican
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Same

peak hamlet
visual pumice
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i like the annihilators heh

gaunt vector
crisp heath
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Why are you still trying to talk me

atomic pelican
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Yess the annihilators are chunk

crisp heath
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Like you proved that you're nothing

visual pumice
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insert pun

crisp heath
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Just stop

barren tapir
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Why we cannot have some serious lore discussion here?!?!

storm jungle
odd sparrow
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dilara how are u getting enjoyment from this one

crisp heath
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Honestly

odd sparrow
#

there's like

peak hamlet
odd sparrow
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so little here

gaunt vector
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Quick question Boreale: What do you get out of being in this server?

gaunt vector
odd sparrow
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hey at least the actual stormcasts aren't oversized anymore

peak hamlet
gaunt vector
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would make some good weapons for a kitbash Space Marine

storm jungle
atomic pelican