Thats true. Alot of their signifiers have been kinda filed off in main page art
#40k-lore-chat
crisp heath
If the ultra marines had more flare, and stupidly difficult situations in lore they barely scrape out of I'd probably think they were cooler
And candles
storm jungle
final spruce
Humans in 30k being aggressive expansionnists and the Interex are proof enough that their xenophobia isnt "justified"
storm jungle
Yeah the reason only hostile aliens are brought up is because its a tabletop game and you got to have your protagonist faction fight stuff constantly when you can't just rely on the main xenos races like orks, eldar and tau.
Its that and the lore pretty much constantly says that peaceful aliens are rarely mentioned because the Imperium just rolls over them and even subjugates any human conspirators that were living alongside them too lol
cursive hull
I think, at one point, humanity might have had a chance to get by not killing all the Xenos.
But that implies that the age of strife never happens.
Apparently humanity was both too dangerous to attack and also too wealthy not to trade with prior to the age of strife.
Once Big E took charge, it was destined to face roll its way across the galaxy for no good reason.
storm jungle
Yeah even Big E's reason of "Well our alien allies betrayed us so they must all die" is a shallow motivation as most things go.
cursive hull
Honestly... Feels like typically fashy "They are the enemy, so we must unite against them." Schtick.
Easier to keep humanity from killing one another (As much) if we're too busy killing something else for the time being.
Considering he glued Terra back together again with some old ass glue and then taped it back with even more garbage tape?
I'd not be surprised if he just wanted some means of stabilizing the situation that was external.
atomic pelican
Yeah presumably thats the point, it mirrors the "backstabbing" rhetoric
cursive hull
https://youtu.be/9tYdSch9tds?t=68 Basically this conversation.
frosty cobalt
Damn sad my Tau are cold blooded take a few days back got interrupted
frosty cobalt
They dont sweat
And im gonna say panting is outta the question
Well maybe not just nothing ive seen mentions it
So like im leaning towards alien reptile pigs
frosty cobalt
Yea but they have no hair which most animals that dont sweat do
atomic pelican
They do have hair tho
frosty cobalt
Not like full monkey hair
frosty cobalt
Yea
Ive just been thinkin bout the biology of the tau and not in a fishy mommy milkers kinda way
atomic pelican
Legend
frosty cobalt
Just if they have been around for 4000 years give or take, as “enlightened” tau, that must mean that they are significantly evolved from the primitive state the imperium first saw them as
cursive hull
I take it as the opposite, quite often.
Sure, technologically? They basically exploded in progress.
But socially? That's not a lot of time to mature as a society.
atomic pelican
Possibly. 4000 years isnt that much time for evolution
cursive hull
Also yeah.
atomic pelican
If ur european you mightve been connected!
frosty cobalt
I should be sleeping not lore dumping
atomic pelican
Its ayt I live for tau discussion that isnt explosive
frosty cobalt
Anyway im just thinking that if the tau can make it so they can speak gothic with a surgery
Shouldnt they be able to fix the depth perception issue they havr??
Like
frosty cobalt
I know that but its still used as one of the offical reasons for them being “weaker” then baseline humans
cursive hull
Well, weaker in melee. They're superior marksmen. Its more a neutral.
frosty cobalt
I like that about them i just wish they did it better
atomic pelican
Depends on the source honestly
Tau codex says a fire warrior can outgun and is far better trained than ur usual guardsman
frosty cobalt
God back when pulse rifles hit like bolters 🤤
storm jungle
Also a lot of people forget Tau tech is superior to most of Imperium's stuff. It's just balanced by the Imperials having a looney toons amount of super-ultra-die-weapons
atomic pelican
I also think ppl severely overestimate the effects of depth perception with the tau
They dont completely lack it
cursive hull
And superior numbers... And Space Marines being absurd.
atomic pelican
Pulse rifles still be pretty stronk
In fluff and tabletop
Just that tau on tt arent good as a whole
frosty cobalt
I know, its also a mix of “low grav home planet” which wouldnt matter after leaving tau
And bad reflexes which honestly, if the air caste fuckin had wings, i thing the Hunting and Fighting cast would ya know maybe not have those
I know tt and fluff, i just wish it was a bit better lolz
But everyone wants that for their faction tbh
cursive hull
TBH, the T'au do fine as a more "Closer to modern sensibilities" fighting force tbh. They're pretty reasonable over all.
atomic pelican
Yeah probs why its best to just stick with your interpretation based on ur faction and codex n such
cursive hull
Squad based tactics, combined arms, mobility warfare, etc.
atomic pelican
Im of the general opinion that every faction shouls be written as Being Cool for the people who play that faction
frosty cobalt
Ye my tau bug hunter army was so fun back in 7tg
storm jungle
As Bricky puts it, if you genuinely hate a faction in 40k to the point of saying they need to be removed you need to get a life
frosty cobalt
If i could write the tau id make it so the rest of the castes realize the etherals are useless and replace them
Then chuds would be correct in calling them fish commies haha
storm jungle
nuuuu
atomic pelican
cursive hull
That'd be... Potentially disastrous.
atomic pelican
Yeah the ethereals did kinda save the tau from the montau
storm jungle
Aun'va and his cute floating chair is superior to the golden throne
storm jungle
cursive hull
Sure, the Ethereals are clearly using their underlings for some other purpose (Or just to live large as the most important caste on the planet.)
But the T'au never had a chance to develop their own sense of government and community.
storm jungle
look at em gooo
frosty cobalt
Oh they have their place in the greater good just not hogging all the power
Lov that chair
cursive hull
Someone would have to be in charge.
Ultimately you'd still be doing a huge upset to make it a meritocracy overnight.
frosty cobalt
Committee of the Greater Good
storm jungle
@atomic pelican Oh yeah speaking of evil ethereals, Onut have you read that new Sister story of her arguing with a tau diplomat, want me to pass a reddit summary of it over
frosty cobalt
Ohhh i wanna see that
cursive hull
Like... Best you could manage without causing a civil war, is transitioning to an Oligarchy of some description.
storm jungle
KJDSDS
frosty cobalt
Fun read
storm jungle
Phil kelly moment
Onut i think this comment speaks to you
I see Kelly really cannot rid himself of his "turn every Ethereal into a moustache-twirling villain" compulsion.
atomic pelican
And then Jane Freeman said "I must sav da humens" and tore da ethereal apart
frosty cobalt
Gimme a story about a commander having to ferry their troops and civvies through tau controlled space because of nids/gc cult, and they gotta deal with the civvies wanting to stay in tau space and the fear of execution for treason
atomic pelican
The idea of some random mother getting lmaoplasma'd for da grimderps is hilarious
storm jungle
god I know
cursive hull
Given how the Imperium works?
storm jungle
also the sororita just beating the shit out of the tau characters too, you can tell its there just because its a sororitas book 
frosty cobalt
That made me laugh poor lady 🤣
cursive hull
Those civvies are executed if the guy in charge finds out anyone is planning to defect.
frosty cobalt
Those civvies are executed if the guy in charge finds out anyone is planning to ...
Not everyones that evil
frosty cobalt
Some dude just trying to save the civves juat has to keep them moving along
cursive hull
Not everyones that evil
The Imperium brainwashes its citizens from the day they are born. They're ultra xenophobic even to the point where it hurts them.
Its pretty much a given that abandoning the Imperium in line of sight of a commissar or anyone who has their career in mind is suicide.
atomic pelican
Alot of Kelly's writing of the tau starts to fall into the same area of Drukhari for me. Drukhari are so funny because its like someone from hot topic made a faction so all their evils come across as over the top and hilarious.
With kellys tau, its that but mustache twirling. Aun'va: "kys"
storm jungle
Yeah dark eldar are funny because they're evil and know it
they literally say
Why not
cursive hull
And enjoy it.
storm jungle
when someone asks why they do this to them and torture people lmao
frosty cobalt
Ok maybe if you are on a good world, but some fuck off agri world aint gonna have the resources to do that
atomic pelican
For fun lmao
storm jungle
Its just a realspace prank bro
frosty cobalt
Think about how big a planet is
atomic pelican
I ❤️ the realspace
atomic pelican
OGGHH
frosty cobalt
It take so much effort to do that. Just tell them “fear the alien”
But if u see super nice tau land where ur Not Gonna Get Blammed
atomic pelican
Guevesa shortstories are usually pretty cool bcuz of thst
cursive hull
I'm not saying its always going to happen.
Just that your average Imperial citizen has to consider what it means to try and cross the border, so to speak.
atomic pelican
Voices of Experience for example
cursive hull
Actively killing loads of people for trivial reasons gets you a gold star on your permanent record in the Imperium. Basically, a commander would, all things going well, never hear about anyone trying to desert/defect/seek asylum.
Because them finding out means bad shits going to happen sooner or later.
frosty cobalt
The point is its not going well
storm jungle
Yeah this isnt aimed at anyone in particular and like not to be offensive but if someone says they'd rather live under the imperium they literally got no idea whats it suppose to be like
storm jungle
these are the same people that use surviving children from attacks and population as slave labor
or beat you near death in whats suppose to be school for making a harmless joke
all from SOME books i read btw
atomic pelican
The chad nid consoomer
frosty cobalt
God i love nids
storm jungle
Comin in yo crib to nom yo ass
atomic pelican
Cant wait until they get updates
storm jungle
atomic pelican
Would love to run a detachment w my cult
cursive hull
I mean, I don't.
I don't like the Imperium as a concept. That's the point of the Imperium, to show how far humanity has fallen into the shit.
Its why all the chuds who think the Imperium is the good guy faction are really stupid. Its basically satire.
storm jungle
^
frosty cobalt
My friend has hand made 8 2000+ pt armies from clay and other materials
plucky moth
If the imperium is so good why is there no imperium 2
atomic pelican
damn
cursive hull
But there is
storm jungle
If the imperium is so good why is there no imperium 2
There was
frosty cobalt
Saggy and boberts imperium 2
atomic pelican
Waiting for west imperium vs east imperium civil war
frosty cobalt
Electric boogaloo
plucky moth
Incan ur banned u cant type
Damn a mod should do something about that 
storm jungle
The Unremembered Memepire
atomic pelican
ur tyranny ends here
storm jungle
frosty cobalt
God i love that cover saggy looks so sad
frosty cobalt
He is not for this
plucky moth
My tyranny is just beginning 
frosty cobalt
“This is what i get for being the doormat sibling”
storm jungle
frosty cobalt
“Why couldnt dad make me angry like angron atleast id have an excuse for the Blood Curse”
atomic pelican
plucky moth
What on earth
storm jungle
Onut's shitposts are too much
plucky moth
I’d stop her but I am banned
frosty cobalt
Imma head to bed, and dream of my brash clumsy battlesuit commander x refined elegant imperial admiral romance script im writing
Night all
storm jungle
👋 night!
frosty cobalt
Thanks for lore chatting
plucky moth
Gnight
jagged ember
I mean, I don't.
I don't like the Imperium as a concept. That's the point of th...
Heresy
xD
crisp heath
Humans in 30k being aggressive expansionnists and the Interex are proof enough t...
Muh peaceful interstellar race
crisp heath
Somehow a 10,000 year ago war is proof that the current Imperium is xenophobic just cuz
That's literally like saying all Germans are nazis today
cloud kindle
i mean the imperium is xenophobic for pretty good reasons
crisp heath
It is
cloud kindle
aint many friendly xenos races out there
crisp heath
Theres only the space monkeys
crisp heath
That's how 40k will end, they'll tinker and take apart the warp itself
crisp heath
Gross, xeno lover
atomic pelican
Getting clowned on by like 10 ppl for being shinybrained isnt the win you think it is
atomic pelican
"I get my lore from memes and cant read"
atomic pelican
Okay guy, youre the entertainment you know
atomic pelican
As the clowns usually are
crisp heath
If you want you can borrow some of it
atomic pelican
🤡
crisp heath
Nice selfie
atomic pelican
Taking clown wigs? Yes
peak hamlet
@plucky moth
crisp heath
Kinda weird
final spruce
Somehow a 10,000 year ago war is proof that the current Imperium is xenophobic j...
Litterally destroyed an Empire that was all the major aliens that planned to ally to them at their least xenophobic
Yes it does show how xenophobic they are in 40k
atomic pelican
Quantum brainworms
final spruce
Oh well
atomic pelican
Just await the ban
atomic pelican
I call em everytime
final spruce
atomic pelican
I'll add the name to my mount
crisp heath
They hated him because he told the truth
atomic pelican
They hated you because you're a moron
jagged ember
what happened ?
crisp heath
atomic pelican
Dont worry Konstan
rotund siren
from what I have seen, Boreal believes that the Imperium isn't xenophobic?
atomic pelican
Yeah he got made fun of earlier and came back for seconds
barren tapir
Shitty conversation, that doesn't have any base nor reasonable argument other than imp good vs imp bad people... They are becoming increasingly frequent sadly
rotund siren
even though they literally have a group of Inquisitors who's whole shtick is "Kill all aliens, regardless of why"
crisp heath
Kinda weird
jagged ember
from what I have seen, Boreal believes that the Imperium isn't xenophobic?
when I see a xeno my answer is the same
XENO SCUM DIE
:D
crisp heath
I agree
rotund siren
so thanks for proving your own trollingness, though I suppose it didn't matter
jagged ember
Well Eldar can be usefull allies
rotund siren
since we've already figured that out
jagged ember
common enemy
atomic pelican
Konstans cute, solstice, theyre fine
crisp heath
Do you even like know what you're talking about
jagged ember
?
atomic pelican
❤️
crisp heath
Solstice
rotund siren
It may be shocking to you, but yes, I am more confident in my knowledge than in your claims
crisp heath
Can you explain your knowledge
Can you explain what you think I'm claiming
Cause like
I dont think you know what you're saying
rotund siren
So what are you saying?
crisp heath
Why are you trying to reverse this?
rotund siren
I'm not, I just forgot what you were claiming
crisp heath
So you admit you don't know what you said
rotund siren
I know what I said, yes
jagged ember
crisp heath
I'm not sure about that...
crisp heath
I play as Brown and brown is never the impostor fyi
crisp heath
If that's sus, why didnt you test at medbay
rotund siren
honestly, looking through this, I see basically nothing but you being an asshole
you don't actually seem to be defending anything
jagged ember
If that's sus, why didnt you test at medbay
I went to electrics
crisp heath
Okay, I get it you're trying to get the last word in
rotund siren
just spewing bullshit to make people mad
jagged ember
:(
rotund siren
Nah, I just went through the messages to figure out what all you were talking about
rotund siren
which is nothing
jagged ember
rotund siren
it's just you trying to make people mad
jagged ember
I still don't know whats going on here :l
crisp heath
It's kinda sad
rotund siren
I'm just saying what I'm seeing? If I'm wrong, feel free to correct me, genuinely
crisp heath
Yeah, There's no coma after wrong
rotund siren
I just wanna figure out what this fella's trying to say, not trying to start or continue an argument
barren tapir
This discussion isn't going nowhere
rotund siren
I apologize if that is what that seemed like
barren tapir
He was talking with Mullokad about why, and if it is right, that the imperium is xenophobic
jagged ember
Imperium is mostly xenophobic :l
rotund siren
which immediately devolved into slinging insults
or so it seemed
anyways, I got to go, so, have a nice day? maybe?
crisp heath
Good, leave
barren tapir
which immediately devolved into slinging insults
Yes, and the first one was from Proud tbf
crisp heath
Eldar and Imperium are technical allies half the time
barren tapir
Good, leave
You should stop too, you aren't making your position better with such behaviour
crisp heath
I think any actual war between them is basically just background lore
jagged ember
Eldar and Imperium are technical allies half the time
yeah but skirmishes happens
I don't think even they are allies
Imperual guard will trust and eldar
crisp heath
Then they end with them allying cause some demon was hiding in a cave
jagged ember
or any Imperium soldier
they are allies because of common enemy and they still distrust each other
crisp heath
Well, I'm talking more about what tends to happen in books and games than in universe
They say their enemies, but more often than not they end up fighting together
jagged ember
not figthing does not mean they trust each other or they like each other
if bobby G said don't attack eldar
final spruce
Well Eldar are technically allies of the Imperium Secundus, peace treaty and alliance
jagged ember
Imperium 99% won't attack Eldar
final spruce
Imperium will, Secundus won't
Plus it doesn't stop people from spitting on the Eldar
IF someone read Dark imperium series, when Gulliman tries to introduce the Eldar ambassador to the nobles ...
jagged ember
isin't Secundus disbanded after heresy ?
final spruce
Yeah they all say Gulliman is a joke and some even speak about rebelling against him
It was yes
final spruce
But having alliance and working together from time to time doesn't stop the hate
final spruce
Plus it tends to end with both sides fighting each other once the main threat is dealt with
jagged ember
it doesn't mean they don't hate each other
final spruce
With Taus, Orks etc
jagged ember
they still distrust each other
Eldar and Imperium just like
Yeah we won't try attack each other
and kill chaos ?
nothing more
storm jungle
wow
I never realised what seeing an actual imperial stan in action would be like, now I know
plucky moth
shell pebble
That's a first for me too
storm jungle
"The imperium isnt xenophobic. They got the right to slaughter every alien they come across."
like, okay lol
plucky moth
They’re defo xenophobic
shell pebble
They're justified (mostly) in their xenophobia due to Orks, Dark Eldar, Necrons, etc
gaunt vector
They're justified (mostly) in their xenophobia due to Orks, Dark Eldar, Necrons,...
yup
barren tapir
"The imperium isnt xenophobic. They got the right to slaughter every alien they ...
Where this was said? I didn't read it in the previous discussion that then escalated quickly
plucky moth
and yes having a fear of outsiders is a given in 40k but the franchise is very much so to parody/cartoonish levels
storm jungle
Yeah the entire irony of the Imperium is that they dont have to be this way
its their hubris and fear that makes them so terrible and will eventually lead to their own demise
which wont happen yet because models must be sold but SSSSSH
gaunt vector
its their hubris and fear that makes them so terrible and will eventually lead t...
unless they improve, which remains possible
plucky moth
Or there’s a redemption arc 
summer niche
They are improving
barren tapir
With big R they may be on the right course
summer niche
Thank you!
barren tapir
I mean, big R did invited an eldar and told the imp officials to shut up
shell pebble
👑 You also dropped this King
barren tapir
That is definitely an improvement
gaunt vector
honestly, I would like to see the absolute fustercluck of the Eldar and the Imperium both realising that they need to somehow work together to somehow win the Rhana Dandra. It would be funny
storm jungle
Gross, xeno lover
This stupid attitude doesnt help either
everyone in 40k is bad but chaos and imperium are like the top two
storm jungle
I know eldar suck but you dont see me defending them from killing innocent imperials lol
barren tapir
This stupid attitude doesnt help either
True, but he was attacked first... Also why the hell are you revving that shit?
gaunt vector
everyone in 40k is bad but chaos and imperium are like the top two
Dark Eldar are worse than the Imperium
gaunt vector
Dark Eldar dont count
shifting goalposts intensifies
storm jungle
the fact that they do it for lolz makes them have their own alt-category
visual pumice
they are explicitly villains are they not?
storm jungle
Yep
summer niche
Miss me oldcrons
storm jungle
They literally say that the fact that they do the shit they do is because "Why not"
summer niche
😩
gaunt vector
They literally say that the fact that they do the shit they do is because "Why n...
so does chaos
barren tapir
Look, it is pretty easy to understand that no galaxy power is built on kindness and comprehension
barren tapir
Whoever think that there is a big enough faction that is the good guys is plainly wrong
peak hamlet
chaos androids
They looked great
gaunt vector
The Imperium will 99% of the time have a reason, even if their understanding of that reason is not good enogh
tidal gull
Even the tau are pretty shifty
barren tapir
The tau aren't less worse than the imperium, just less direct
gaunt vector
but idk a lot about them
storm jungle
Yeah the Tau's evilness falls short compared to the others
barren tapir
And they not being direct means that they are seen as a less evil
shell pebble
Got a question on that, speaking of: do you guys prefer Tau to being sorta shifty or pre 6th "They were mostly the good guys" vibe they had with their lore?
storm jungle
I'd say a mix
gaunt vector
Yeah the Tau's evilness falls short compared to the others
not really they just use proxys
storm jungle
instead of every ethereal being a mustache twirling villain
barren tapir
They had a reason to be the "good guys" at the beginning of their story, but the more they grow then less make sense
Not that they aren't know to attack and exterminate races that refuse them
plucky moth
Tau are more insidious in how they do things afaik
tidal gull
And the good ol' caste system
plucky moth
Yeaaaaa
storm jungle
Compared to the Imperium where they literally take the surviving children from a city attack and use them as slave labor
which yes happens
visual pumice
no way
storm jungle
YEP
plucky moth
Yea the imperium is a shit show
shell pebble
I kind of liked the idea of the Tau being the outsider looking in on a Galaxy ravaged by many flavors of evil and going "What the fuck is going on...?"
visual pumice
not my imperium of man
storm jungle
SDFKDKS
visual pumice
barren tapir
Look, the imperium is so big that it has the possibility to be awful and wholesome at the same time in different part of the galaxy
storm jungle
I'd say depends
final spruce
Grimdark tho
storm jungle
the Imperium's wholesomeness is like 10% compared to its 90% half
barren tapir
With the imperium pretty much all is possible
gaunt vector
I kind of liked the idea of the Tau being the outsider looking in on a Galaxy ra...
as they realise they will enevitably be dragged into it and fall.
crisp heath
This stupid attitude doesnt help either
Praise the Imperium, Death to Xenos, Damnation for Heretics
gaunt vector
I think they are already doing so
storm jungle
Praise the Imperium, Death to Xenos, Damnation for Heretics
Edgy Imperial Quote Yes
crisp heath
It's not edgy
storm jungle
It is
crisp heath
It's the truth
barren tapir
You really had to ping him right Dil?
visual pumice
ahhahaha
storm jungle
I forgot to turn off the ping ngl lmao
barren tapir
Damn
storm jungle
but yeah the sayings Imperium use are all suppose to be ironic
like how you should hate stuff you dont understand
crisp heath
Denial like a xeno lover, typical.
visual pumice
it's cringy
barren tapir
Denial like a xeno lover, typical.
Yo stop that
crisp heath
I don't
visual pumice
not edgy
shell pebble
Cring
storm jungle
Are you okay lmao
shell pebble
Anyway
crisp heath
Grosssssss
final spruce
Just let the man be wrong and stop feeding the troll
peak hamlet
Cringe
barren tapir
Borele stop with the shit behaviour
storm jungle
Can you make an exterminatus joke while you're at it
crisp heath
Super gross
crisp heath
I'm just saying the truth
peak hamlet
Man you really are ruining the true captain boreale for me
crisp heath
Truth hurts I get it
primal tide
Hahaha
crisp heath
Sorry Elrad
shell pebble
Hohoho
barren tapir
God i wish i was a mod
crisp heath
🐛 gross
plucky moth
Is this a role play?
barren tapir
Just for this channel
storm jungle
I think so?
shell pebble
It may be Incan
storm jungle
Like this guy genuinely confuses me
Nobody can be this much of an imperial stan, i refuse to believe it
primal tide
Is this a role play?
I'm gonna roleplay as a mod
Everyone is now banned
crisp heath
Suffer not the Eldar, Tyranid, ork, tau, ect, ect to live
shell pebble
Maybe if we scream Wagh he'll go away
gaunt vector
Suffer not the Eldar, Tyranid, ork, tau, ect, ect to live
Alpharius?
shell pebble
Suffer not my cock to live lmao
peak hamlet
Is this a role play?
If it isnt you might consider muting him
storm jungle
Suffer not the Eldar, Tyranid, ork, tau, ect, ect to live
But I like my alien mini figures
crisp heath
You mean Omegarius?
jagged ember
Nobody can be this much of an imperial stan, i refuse to believe it
??????
tidal gull
Alpharius?
I'm Alpharius
visual pumice
we are
gaunt vector
You mean Omegarius?
PERHAPS
final spruce
But I like my alien mini figures
ye you like the butts, don't lie
plucky moth
Woahhh hold up you did NOT just reduce necrons to an “etc”
gaunt vector
I'm Alpharius
No I'm Alpharius!
crisp heath
Sorry, I only included the main factions
peak hamlet
Imagine buying non Imperial figures
Csm look better than space marines
plucky moth
jagged ember
there is 1 main faction
final spruce
They are the xeno ambassadors
crisp heath
okay, well I dont read xeno books
jagged ember
others are practice dummies
peak hamlet
All factions are kinda main factions
gaunt vector
Necrons are main factions tho
boreal is memeing on u. drop it
jagged ember
:D
storm jungle
okay, well I dont read xeno books
Its okay to be tasteless
crisp heath
Come back to me when it's in a human codex
barren tapir
@jagged ember FFS shouldn't you be sleeping??
storm jungle
Come back to me when it's in a human codex
Theres a lot of them tbh
peak hamlet
<@!203470115897868289> FFS shouldn't you be sleeping??
Yeah right
jagged ember
<@!203470115897868289> FFS shouldn't you be sleeping??
someone talk shit about the Imperium
I was summoned here by the emperor
:D
plucky moth
Wait yea Konstantin I’m worried about you buddy, sleep deprivation sucks
gaunt vector
For the Emperor 😄
barren tapir
someone talk shit about the Imperium
A lot of people do, me too, but that should't make you mess up you sleep schedule
crisp heath
If Xenos are so great why didnt the Emperor lead them on a great crusade?
jagged ember
Its 6.30 pm
storm jungle
If Xenos are so great why didnt the Emperor lead them on a great crusade?
Because he cared about humanity first?
What kind of question is that lmao
crisp heath
Cause they were the best
visual pumice
laugh at the corpse worshipper
crisp heath
Imagine hating your own species
barren tapir
Duty before sleep
Your duty is to sleep, how can you help the imperial cause if you are not well rested??
visual pumice
point and laugh
plucky moth
Duty before sleep
Look after yourself pls, the emperor needs healthy lads
crisp heath
Sad!
crisp heath
Cause he can
jagged ember
:O ok I go to sleep Gn
storm jungle
LMAO
crisp heath
Dont judge him??
storm jungle
Okay ngl
jagged ember
Why did half of his sons go traitor
Mental issues
storm jungle
that was a great response
plucky moth
I’m on a corpse chair sometimes tbh
jagged ember
angron should have been aborted
summer niche
storm jungle
beat me to it incan
shell pebble
Man Horus Heresy could've all been fixed up if Empy wasn't such a sociopath
final spruce
And ya keep feeding it
tidal gull
Because they got tempted by the chaos milkers/horns/spikes/whatever takes their fancy
peak hamlet
Bro you are awake for 24hrs or so, get some sleep
jagged ember
almost everyone has long hair
plucky moth
Good parenting is harder than making a galactic empire and becoming a god
tidal gull
Bald is best
primal tide
Horus went heresy because he was bald
This concept always makes me laugh
No matter how many times I see it
storm jungle
Its accurate
the aliens must die because they have hair
a true hairesy if you will
jagged ember
the aliens must die because they have hair
:O
storm jungle
visual pumice
ork have hair
storm jungle
And the women AND THE CHILDREN HAVE HAIR TOO
visual pumice
not seen the new models
storm jungle
peak hamlet
ork have hair
Hair squigs
shell pebble
Orks get hair from squigs and stapling weird shit on their heads
jagged ember
that makes them inferior
peak hamlet
Orks get hair from squigs and stapling weird shit on their heads
This
storm jungle
Propaganda i say
plucky moth
Orks making wigs is weirdly wholesome
shell pebble
Now I wanna see an ork business where they sell wigs
tidal gull
Orks are great
primal tide
Sqwigs
shell pebble
And they got the grots working with the squigs
Then the nob is the CEO
Orks are great because of what you can do with them
And people universally will say "Yeah that sounds like orks!"
peak hamlet
storm jungle
They're our inner spirit
gaunt vector
angron should have been aborted
I see that you also watch Majorkill
primal tide
Orks with Squigtails
jagged ember
There is only 1 main faction (imperium) other are practice dummies xD
jagged ember
I see that you also watch Majorkill
Best way to learn 40k lore xD
storm jungle
no
gaunt vector
Best way to learn 40k lore xD
Lmao true
storm jungle
I wish Major wasnt such an asshole about views
peak hamlet
There is only 1 main faction (imperium) other are practice dummies xD
GO TO SLEEP DUDE
storm jungle
otherwise hes my favorite
jagged ember
GO TO SLEEP DUDE
Ok i'm in my bed ._. Flesh is weak
jagged ember
Machine is immortal ;l
shell pebble
Ay!!
frigid mesa
Majorkill is good if you already know the basics
storm jungle
peak hamlet
Ok i'm in my bed ._. Flesh is weak
YOU ARE MADE OUT OF FLESH
storm jungle
Time to get my tea and watch this clusterfluff
jagged ember
YOU ARE MADE OUT OF FLESH
Shame on me :(
barren tapir
Time to get my tea and watch this clusterfluff
Lol, i'm going to make tea too
frigid mesa
i love that he doesnt give a fuck about the tabletop game too lol
storm jungle
Yeah his only downside like i said is the constant animosity to other channels
i feel like he should just stick to himself, that makes him more likable
shell pebble
That's a real big red flag
storm jungle
instead of "IN A MONTH IM GONNA PASS THIS PERSON IN VIEWS!"
im like
"i dont care, im here for your fun vids, can you stop reminding me every time"
but alas
gaunt vector
I think he just deos it to get himself motivated
visual pumice
algorithms and that innit
gaunt vector
makes it into a small competition which major himself says is not really worth worrying about
storm jungle
i hope so tbh
plucky moth
Being Aussie necessitates being a massive wank about at least one thing at all times
Just the rules
thin horizon
All I'm gonna say is, he said hes going to pass 40k Theories, which is a channel that reads wiki articles in a monotone droning voice with almost zero original input. Like some of the videos are word for bloody word.
If majorkill is gonna shit talk anyone, that's the right target
summer niche
feels like he doesn't really shittalk people
thin horizon
I mean he didnt
summer niche
ye i get ya
plucky moth
sounds like banter to me
thin horizon
Yep, banter
summer niche
it's pretty amusing
plucky moth
storm jungle
All I'm gonna say is, he said hes going to pass 40k Theories, which is a channel...
No thats OneMindSyndicate
40ktheories is great
thin horizon
Oh. I see
Maybe I'm thinking about how the titles are like "40 facts and theories about (thing)"
thin horizon
And then theres no theories, only uncounted facts from a wiki
storm jungle
LOL YEP
thin horizon
Yea
Unfortunately, I dont have the dedicated energy of Auspex, the enthusiasm of Wolf Lord Rho, or the sheer skill of Luetin
Luetin is the KING of 40k youtube imo
frosty cobalt
Oculus is my one true 40k lore channel
Dude is so good
His underlying “oh god why am i here what did i do to deserve this curse of knowledge” vibe is great
crisp heath
What about OneeyedSyndicate or whatever his name is
Posting 10 videos a day
About what Space Marines prefer as shampoo
thin horizon
Syndicate is the hard SUCK. He reads wiki articles
frosty cobalt
Damn imagine thinking shampoo exists in 40k
thin horizon
Luetin writes 1 to 2 hour ESSAYS
frosty cobalt
Perfumed oils is more like it
thin horizon
About the time he decided to go into depth on quantum physics as part of explaining the warp, I was hooked
frosty cobalt
Oculus just does the character and story so well imo
thin horizon
Yea, his video on the Men of Iron, Stone, and Gold was very good
frosty cobalt
Luetin is good but his videos contain way too many personal takes for me
Atleast the ones ive seen
thin horizon
I mean I've heard him speculate, but it's not like hes Arch. I've not seen Luetin inject "takes" as much as "heres what it could mean, where it may lead" and he always disclaims it and provides what evidence he can for his assertion.
storm jungle
Luetin is good but his videos contain way too many personal takes for me
This tbh
I like him but he really babbles on too much imo
especially when he insists on everything being canon by using the logic of "well everything is canon isnt it"
gaunt vector
imo Occulus is the best followed by Luetin then Majorkill for the memes
Occulus just gives u so much immersion
storm jungle
I do like how every video he makes he always voice-acts like he might not live to see the next day lol
gaunt vector
damn.
storm jungle
peak hamlet
😔
gaunt vector
I just love the Blood Angels specifically and the concept of abandoning personal humanity to defend everyone else
peak hamlet
I love the red corsairs c:
gaunt vector
that along with the way that their cultures interact is just incredible imo
also their armour looks really cool
peak hamlet
Yeah
For loyalists i like salamanders and dark angels
(Insert lame dark angels not loyalists joke here)
gaunt vector
I'm more of a loyalist fan but my fav traitor legion is the Thousand Sons
final spruce
Ah yes the good old, everything is canon, not everything is true
gaunt vector
I'm reading Master of Prospero rn
peak hamlet
that joke can go to hell
Yes finally we agree on something
gaunt vector
that joke can go to hell
agreed
storm jungle
You guys should borrow my saying
gaunt vector
For loyalists i like salamanders and dark angels
What is it specifically that u like about the DA btw?
peak hamlet
Magnus did everything wrong
Shut
storm jungle
gaunt vector
I agree
peak hamlet
Plus deathwing terminators are just sick af
gaunt vector
what about the OG black armor!
That is also amazing
peak hamlet
what about the OG black armor!
Lame
Everybory got black armor
Raven guard, iron hands, black legion
gaunt vector
Lame
huh, I kinda liked it. especially with the unique heraldry that they used to put on it. black and white chequers and red icons
peak hamlet
Idk i just prefer the dark green
primal tide
I like dark angels cuz they match my hoodie aesthetic
gaunt vector
Idk i just prefer the dark green
dark green is my favourite colour but for the DA I prefer black armour.
peak hamlet
Im also not a huge fan of the fw minis, they look fool but kinda capture a wrong aestetic imo
gaunt vector
I like dark angels cuz they match my hoodie aesthetic
nice
peak hamlet
https://images.beastsofwar.com/2019/10/Dark-Angel-Legion-Praetor-Forge-World.jpg
Great example, thanks! You see that helmet? Looks like shit imo
storm jungle
WHAT
peak hamlet
It does
storm jungle
HOW DARE YOU
gaunt vector
That one is a bit bizzare but I love their 30k Space Knights vibe
peak hamlet
I really would like it if it was executed properly
gaunt vector
**HOW DARE YOU**
look who is defending a Space Marine 👀
peak hamlet
Oh she has been exposed 👀
primal tide
Bro that helmet is sick af
peak hamlet
It aint
gaunt vector
Bro that helmet is sick af
yeah but the peak goes almost comically high
gaunt vector
i hate them in marketing
that's fair
peak hamlet
yeah but the peak goes almost comically high
Yes, it definitevely crossed a border
storm jungle
Im gonna cross your peak in a minute
peak hamlet
Looks like somebody let their kid design it
storm jungle
primal tide
yeah but the peak goes almost comically high
Welcome to 40k where everything is an extreme
Even helm peaks aren't safe
gaunt vector
I agree that the SM in marketing are annoying af because it is ALWAYS just the sodding Ultramarines every bloody time
storm jungle
YEAH
gaunt vector
Welcome to 40k where everything is an extreme
_Even helm peaks aren't safe_
to be fair that one is not the worst offender. there are so many SM that I see and just think "damn u must REALLY hate doorframes"
because they have cosmetics double their height or something
peak hamlet
What really pisses me off is that thanks to their advertisement nobody like ultramarines anymore. They got so much individual heraldry and shit but box art alway diaplays them as the most bland and boring sm ever
gaunt vector
like a chaos terminator with a metal garden fence on top
gaunt vector
What really pisses me off is that thanks to their advertisement nobody like ultr...
that is one of the things that pisses me off as well but its not like it would be hard to just show other chapters and or legions
peak hamlet
like a chaos terminator with a metal garden fence on top
They look cool tho, just fucking pin your enemies heads up there
peak hamlet
that is one of the things that pisses me off as well but its not like it would b...
Yeah indeed
storm jungle
Ultramarines being posterboys is like fashion models being forced to digest healthy food constantly, its not a position they can ever escape from lol
gaunt vector
They look cool tho, just fucking pin your enemies heads up there
yeah but I also like to imagine them trying to look cool walking around their space ships to be all macho for their gods and stuff and then just snag themselves on a doorframe as they try to cinematically walk onto the bridge of their flagship or something
peak hamlet
In one book a group of space marines went through a sewer system but their captain got some kind of iron halo on top and its top spike got damaged quite hadly and made him look pretty stupid
gaunt vector
In one book a group of space marines went through a sewer system but their capta...
bruh
peak hamlet
yeah but I also like to imagine them trying to look cool walking around their sp...
I just hope they walk around without armor and just equip it for battle
gaunt vector
I just hope they walk around without armor and just equip it for battle
I don't see any Chaos units being trustworthy enough for members to do that
unless it was for unarmoured dueling for Khorne
gaunt vector
There are so many mutated Chaos marines who simply can't leave their armour
storm jungle
its sticky in there
gaunt vector
They then proceeded to enter the local town hall and shoot everybody
why? was it because they saw the SM capt looking dumb?
peak hamlet
Depends on warband i guess
peak hamlet
why? was it because they saw the SM capt looking dumb?
No because the tau infiltrated all the politicians in there
But also kinda yes
gaunt vector
No because the tau infiltrated all the politicians in there
ah that was deserved then (by 40k standards. Always uphold the Geneva Conventions irl)
peak hamlet
ah that was deserved then (by 40k standards. Always uphold the Geneva Convention...
Yes
gaunt vector
Yes
gaunt vector
oof
summer niche
Im gonna cross your peak in a minute
Dilara "Hannibal" CC
storm jungle
🍽️
summer niche
Coming for that roman roast
signal hill
people can you help me out?
anyone got pictures of bolt-pistols that look (comparatively) slender and elegant
friend of mine wants to know if that is even possible 😛
rotund siren
a slender bolt pistol? probably not
there are dueling las pistols, which are slender, but they aren't bolt
signal hill
yeah unlikely i know but I wanna try anyway, found not much with a quick search but since heres a large number of fans I thought someone might have an idea or some recources at hand
storm jungle
The problem is the defining trait of a bolter is that its brutalist in appearnce
aka comically thick and cumbersome
but hmmm
signal hill
up to now the best I found was this one (which seems fanmade, no idea on the possible source)
https://images-ext-2.discordapp.net/external/3keEKC_OSBdP2x1MW4WPIbQonEt10afbylmK_DQD7C4/https/i.pinimg.com/originals/d9/37/0f/d9370f8aa063e14d5717cc9e4060eb66.jpg?width=645&height=484
rotund siren
ooh very cool
signal hill
probably doesnt get much slenderer then this 😛
vast frigate
storm jungle
probably doesnt get much slenderer then this 😛
still good work tho!
peak hamlet
Couldn't they make the clip/magazine little longer so you can shoot more than 4 times? Thats the only problem i have with the new primaris pistols
storm jungle
I just remembered that thing lol
cerulean wagon
So
Weapons in 40k can look however you look
"slender" boltguns exist (the above is the newer primaris model.. i wanna say its the absolver?)
visual pumice
Looks like the one the chaplains have, so probs absolver
cerulean wagon
its actually the base i used for the commission i got done for my friends commissar
signal hill
yes its an absolver
and that comissar looks rad
gas mask - comissar for a krieg regiment?
cerulean wagon
na was a custom regiment, no one else had them bar him for their art
signal hill
works also pretty well
cerulean wagon
ye its neat
grand minnow
snow rampart
ooooo
cursive hull
Its odd more regiments don't wear gasmasks.
Then again, many likely do wear sealed helmets and masks but not all the time like Krieg or the Steel Legion
radiant heath
Okay. Listen. Just because Vulkan burned an eldar child. Doesnt make him a bad guy. Does it @plucky moth
crisp heath
Vulkan was actually the good guy in doing so
Vulkan probably received a vision at some point before, where that Eldar child would've exterminated the human race
So Vulkan heroically slain the vile Eldar before they could harm humanity
open marsh
Okay. Listen. Just because Vulkan burned an eldar child. Doesnt make him a bad g...
No. It doesn't. Because that was just a filthy xenos who would have otherwise grown up and become a threat to humanity
:v
storm jungle
Never thought id see 2 people at once saying murdering a child was a good thing
what the fuck lmao
storm jungle
Okay. Listen. Just because Vulkan burned an eldar child. Doesnt make him a bad g...
Considering even he was affected badly by it id say yes
Its kind of one of the few lore events that shows Vulkan isnt the giant teddy bear people want him to be lol
atomic pelican
Vulkan isnt wholesome 💯 big chungus?!?!
storm jungle
🌋 
visual pumice
cursive hull
None of the Primarchs are good people. Just some of them are better than others.
(And no one in 40k is a universally good person either.)
atomic pelican
If calgars hand get big enough we'll have to rate him
Also "no universally good person" this is Grekh erasure
🐦
atomic pelican
If he tries hard enough and eats his ultraflakes every morning
storm jungle
Yeah idk guys i think the Imperium are the good guys here
Hate everything and kill everything, thats the way of a true hero
cerulean wagon
its my motto
jagged ember
There are no good or bad guys in 40k xD
jagged ember
I like Imperium and Imperium sometimes do questionably things but still better than
cerulean wagon
look dilara ll im sayin
jagged ember
XENO SCUMS
cerulean wagon
is deploy the wolves
atomic pelican
Xeno cums
visual pumice
cursive hull
barren tapir
Probably
jagged ember
BORIS GET THE HELLSTROM ROCKET BATTERY
atomic pelican
What went wrong last time
summer niche
Wolves hunt in packs
visual pumice
“Borrow”
barren tapir
I mean, Magnus is sworn to tzeneetch now sooo
jagged ember
I mean, Magnus is sworn to tzeneetch now sooo
Well not all of the magnus
visual pumice
Pardon
barren tapir
Most of the shards were collected during the heresy iirc
jagged ember
But not all of them are in the red king
barren tapir
One became the first grand master of the GK, another one became a founder of the inquisition
jagged ember
PROSPERO BURNS
barren tapir
And i'm pretty sure that mgnus managed to get most of his shards
storm jungle
PROSPERO BURNS
HORUS RISING
storm jungle
jagged ember
Except vulkan
Imagime being a primarch
And almost loosing a 10k year old spacemarine that become a Dreatnought
:D
storm jungle
Who?
barren tapir
The only dreadnought that old is bjorn
jagged ember
Bjron the fell handed
xD
He almost won against Magnus
In 1v1
Plot armour saved Magnus xD
barren tapir
If we are talking about 30K then the best are solar auxilia
storm jungle
Space wolves
Space Wolves
storm jungle
Best legion
Worst legion
jagged ember
Vlka Fenryka does not approve :l
barren tapir
These days it seems that Dilara is on fire... How are the temps where you are??
cerulean wagon
i hate the wolfen
storm jungle
Its summer so its pretty hot
storm jungle
also look Blank I got the right to hate fascists like Boreale
visual pumice
Albion
barren tapir
24 here
cerulean wagon
cerulean wagon
its a small world after all~
obtuse vault
I'm putting the proclaimed child killers in here on a fuckin watch list
barren tapir
Vulkan?
jagged ember
?
cerulean wagon
people who defend vulkans child killing are the same as people who claim orks are innocent and dont know what they are doing
cursive hull
Do the Dark Angels get an HH book or two?
cerulean wagon
barren tapir
I think that people are looking too much into that story
obtuse vault
I think the people talking about it belong on a watch list
jagged ember
people who defend vulkans child killing are the same as people who claim orks ar...
Vulkan killing children is fine
summer niche
you lads are equating fantasy shennigans to reality too much
cerulean wagon
storm jungle
Wat
barren tapir
you lads are equating fantasy shennigans to reality too much <:lul:8258362558536...
This is what i wanted to say
visual pumice
Le epic funny londen green men
atomic pelican
Heheoo
barren tapir
Aren't they a dying race?
obtuse vault
Now where's my big red block button
barren tapir
Mine was a joke regarding gav...
jagged ember
Btw Vulkan died 4 times