here i was just trying to get them to say smthn dumb g[sdguhjasd
#40k-lore-chat
mint hill
Nah it's Orkish camoflauge
radiant heath
Wait who left
Also tau blood is purple
And my scarab swarm has red on its talons. Like it gut a human.
NO WAY HE DID LEAVE. HA.
crisp heath
guys
what was the story though
where john grammical met that imperial saint on a farm
and was like "broh dude chill ur not on a farm this isnt real"
and the dude is like "stop bro i like living on a farm"
i figured it out
Know No Fear
primal tide
whoa that sig dude had a real steam forums stink to him lol
smoky mauve
Hahahahhahahaha oh man. That was weird.
strange depot
a lot of 40K is political satire
they literally named the worst Ork of all after Margaret Thatcher, they are not subtle in these things
the mechanicus is what you get when people abandon scientific thought for magical thinking, they have no fucking idea how anything works and only make it worse by hording knowledge
storm jungle
Yeah 40k stopped being satire long ago though
i guess its not that great for today's climate lol
peak hamlet
Yeah 40k stopped being satire long ago though
This
prime kernel
@storm jungle then again thgis political climate isnt exactly great either.
coarse mirage
Glasses of a tint just to see what they wanted.
coarse mirage
<@!166943308231344128> then again thgis political climate isnt exactly great ei...
*US political climate
Every day the rest of us don't have to hear anything of it or have it thrust on us, we're doing pretty good
storm jungle
*Every political climate
its the same reason I avoid the news lol
or just go into stuff like warhammer, i want big guns going brrrr not what joe biden said about parking spaces and how its some leftist agenda or some shit
summer niche
I've been playing days gone the past few days
There is this truther guy in it that reminds me of many Americans that i know 
grand minnow
How early was it political? like 2nd edition?
prime kernel
@coarse mirage you know what you have a good point their.
languid kiln
I've been playing days gone the past few days
most boring game
summer niche
They're not really zombies, it's more of a iam legend kinda deal
summer niche
Virus mutating humans into something else
coarse mirage
I'm really done with zombies
potent swift
Shhh, no one tell them what Poxwalkers are
prime kernel
@potent swift shut it
odd sparrow
i guess its not that great for today's climate lol
gonna have a bunch of extremists storm the imperial palace ogwresgw
gaunt vector
gonna have a bunch of extremists storm the imperial palace ogwresgw
they already did
that one time when Guilliman was there
primal tide
The armor of fate is powered by adrenochrome
odd sparrow
the emperor is gonna banish all the heretical degens from the high lords soon
Anonymous Voxcaster Address #334242 told us so
primal tide
Big E is a sigma male
storm jungle
gonna have a bunch of extremists storm the imperial palace ogwresgw
DFKJS
OMG
thats subtle enough to work btw
barren tapir
NGL, i wouldn't be surprised if GW add that during the period of anarchy on terra, in which only the imperial palace remained a place of order... Like, some mob tried to attack the imperial palace walls and got neutralized immediately
dim totem
Yh I do like that better
I feel like the imperial palace should be impenetrable for dumb heretics
storm jungle
Yeah but its the thought that counts
barren tapir
I don't remember if it is official, but i read an excerpt where a custodes got attacked by chaos cultist, and while he killed them all one managed to put a pickaxe into the knee joint... So yeah, i imagine that they have to deal with dumb heretics daily... And those heretics don't achieve much
smoky mauve
That would be a cool spin-off game lol
Why'd I imagine a fall guys like game but its heretics jumping obstacle courses vying for the ultimate goal of taking a single swing at a custodes?
cursive hull
Fall guys but everyone is a Servitor trying to push the big red button
dim totem
Yeah that'd be fun
crisp heath
Does anyone know who can kill demons in 40k lore as in, removing them from existence in the immaterium, and if a demon is killed, does that have a corresponding effect on real space? Given that (demons are parts of the chaos Gods?) and the immaterium is a reflection of the normal universe?
final spruce
What we currently know that is able to permanently kill a daemon are the Emperor's Sword, some blanks and the Book of Names used by the Grey Knights
crisp heath
Gotcha, but beyond (in theory) reducing the chaos god's power slightly, this would likely have no effect? Is this a mechanic or law of reality that just isn't explored very well?
final spruce
It's not really a law of reality since daemons are above reality because warp
It's just that, it takes a special kind of power to destroy raw soul stuff / emotions
Plus it wouldn't really harm a Chaos God, they are so big the only way to effectively depower them would be Big E's plan, turns us into unfeeling boys or above emotions
final spruce
If Matt Wards wills it
open marsh
Kaldor Drago can prob kill daemons
He does. On the reg
strange depot
if a daemon is weak enough just wrecking it's corporeal form is enough
final spruce
Nope
strange depot
once it returns to the warp the others will devour it
open marsh
Also, certain chaos artefacts can kills daemons. That which is of the warp can slay those of the warp.
crisp heath
Lol well yes but to be more to the point, the immaterium is as I understand it, tied to peoples collective souls/minds. If it were possible to just "erase it". It would result in the death of every living creature that has a connection to it. So I am curious could killing demons potentially kill the beings that they are manifested from?
strange depot
though when it comes to daemons fighting they prefer to bind their enemies, gives greater power and prestige than just dissolving them
a daemon has to be exorcised to keep it from killing the person it possesses if the person survives the exorcism
even if the survive the exorcism their body could be a ruin afterwards
final spruce
Lol well yes but to be more to the point, the immaterium is as I understand it, ...
Not really since daemons aren't linked to actual people souls
However you're right in your assumption that deleting the warp would kill things linked to it
crisp heath
Aren't the chaos gods manifestations of peoples souls/fears/feelings though?
strange depot
they can exorcise daemons but they do need shit
they can't just do it
rituals and talismans and such
happens in Shadowbreaker
final spruce
Aren't the chaos gods manifestations of peoples souls/fears/feelings though?
They are the amalgamation of special emotions, feelings and souls since living creatures exist
strange depot
the main thing about the exorcists is that they are basically can't be possessed or it's so difficult it's impractical
summer niche
Yeah was just thinking about their bodies not being fucked over by the possession
They got plot armour i suppose
final spruce
So do most space marines
strange depot
they undergo a ritual demonic binding and have to force the daemon out of their body through will alone
if it takes too long they just rip you apart and destroy every trace
peak hamlet
It also shoud be worth noting that there aren't just the 4 gods and their minions, there are tons of independend demons, tons of small warp spawn but also quite a few really powerful ones
grand minnow
So basicaly managers
potent swift
Think of it like Youtube. You got the big name Channels that have a bunch of content creators in each one but there's also a ton of smaller channels and independent folk. Some are practically house hold names while others have tiny dedicated followings that keep them afloat, and the odd ones out who got like 4 subscribers but keep trucking on in obscurity.
cursive hull
What is the current stance between the Imperium and the Eldar anyway? Last I remember they were temporarily neutral with one another (At least on a small scale) during the fall of Cadia and the weeks afterwords.
Like, I can't imagine hostilities ceased wholesale, but I can imagine a few Eldar finally realizing that if they stop killing humans they can use them as meatshields (With humanities consent no less.) more proactively.
cloud kindle
depends on the craftworld
there are some alliances with certain craftworlds and the imperium
crisp heath
They're allies more often then they're not
final spruce
Currently the Imperium Secundus aka Gulliman's realm has a peace treaty with the Ynnari
But Eldar/Human alliances are the most common ones like aforementioned
vernal zinc
what do you guys think big e was doing during the 21st century
dim totem
not watching hot tub streamers
vernal zinc
what about feet porn?
dim totem
somebody shoot me
storm jungle
Me too, its 12 in the morning and I just got no energy
dim totem
thanks
cloud kindle
figured you would want to die in style instead
cloud kindle
cause idiots keep buying them
dim totem
i dont want to spend more than 10 bucks on them
prime kernel
@storm jungle then go the FUCK to sleep
final spruce
Just got kebab, am full of energy
final spruce
Andalusian
dim totem
Kinda basic saucewise
final spruce
You're basic
dim totem
Samurai sauce bitch
rotund siren
mixed? what does that even mean for sauces?
rotund siren
-_-
summer niche
but it doesn't explain what they contain lmao
rotund siren
Andalusia is a place in Spain
final spruce
sauce made with peppers and lightly seasoned with chilli and paprika.
summer niche
and samurai sauce is just some jap spunking on your kebab?
final spruce
samurai sauce : whose main ingredients are mayonnaise and sambal oelek
rotund siren
true
summer niche
seeing as this is lorechat
what kind of ambull kebab sauce do you think they got?
final spruce
I mean Ambull meat is considered a delicacy
Maybe similar to the sauce they do crustaceans with ?
summer niche
could be could be
i've never even thought about what tastes are meta in the imperium
maybe they're all hopped up on garlic
final spruce
In the Grimdark future,there is only italian cuisine
summer niche
barren tapir
I mean half of em speak french
Is this french bashing from a french??
final spruce
Yes.
barren tapir
Ok, let me add french to the people who dislike french... Damn, french have it rough it seems
final spruce
It's actually a bit more indepth joke since Belgians hate being reminded they are linked to french
storm jungle
smh what is this sauce madness im witnessing here
dim totem
whats in that sauce
peak hamlet
Its fucking disgusting
I thought its popular outside of germany as well
Well third time i fucked up today i guess
peak hamlet
it looks like something ive seen in the store but never bought
Dont buy it
dim totem
what were the other two fuckups
peak hamlet
Take a look at 40k-memes lol
final spruce
Its maggi
peak hamlet
And i wrote gordon ramsay with an e
final spruce
Its decent in soup
dim totem
oh no you misspelled ramsay
peak hamlet
Its decent in soup
Some people add it to everything
final spruce
I knew someone that did it in their tomato sauce
peak hamlet
🤢
final spruce
Fair to assume I never talked with that person ever again
peak hamlet
Fair to assume I never talked with that person ever again
Good thing
peak hamlet
cant be that bad
I mean its not THAT terrible but it still isnt a good thing to add to your food
Its more of a meme over here
That everybody who uses it cant cook
Which is fair
Since you really shouldnt use it
dim totem
what happens if you chug it
buoyant crypt
whats the flavor profile though
serene jungle
eternal ledge
So Tyranid question. Could the Genestealer Broodmind control lesser Tyranid bioforms like gaunts?
primal tide
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I don't get what's wrong with this sauce, what's the würze that could happen
eternal ledge
It's for a Wrath and Glory campaign idea and I don't want to break the lore
peak hamlet
I don't get what's wrong with this sauce, what's the würze that could happen
That physically hurt
final spruce
So Tyranid question. Could the Genestealer Broodmind control lesser Tyranid biof...
So far only worked for the brood
Genestealers are a bit independant from the Hivemind
eternal ledge
I got some cool ideas that I can blend bits the bugs from Mimic (1997) and the Ceph from Crysis 2; that a Genestealer cult got their hands on some Tyrranid spores or eggs and were using them on a hive world to start a Tyrranid invasion from within the planet's under hive. Using the Brood mind as a sort of mini hive mind
Process would work like Micro-nids infect population breaking them down into biomass that gets eventually transferred to create bigger and bigger nid forms.
mint hill
Tyranids can continue on if there's no hive mind presence controlling them, they just act like wild animals (more or less)
storm jungle
Also
the genestealer that usually started that entire fucking mess usually tries to escape to a new world
because being so independant he doesnt really want to be eaten again due to animalistic instincts iirc
eternal ledge
Nope the Patriarch dies with the world
storm jungle
Nope, it depends
Some are loyal enough to be allowed to get eaten
Some do try to escape
primal tide
Down with the patriarchy
eternal ledge
It's kinda funny because when it is consumed by the reclamation pit it releases control of the cultists from the brood mind and they all look around and go, "Oh we fucked up" before being eaten
final spruce
I mean we have known of gsc leavinng the doomed planet aboard ships
barren tapir
In general when the hive mind arrive the brood mind get replaced, sometime they remain independent
cerulean wagon
i think its a tenure thing
eternal ledge
I mean we have known of gsc leavinng the doomed planet aboard ships
8snt that also to help spread the brood infection
cerulean wagon
the longer a cult is active the more likely it is to mutate and divert away from its original hive
final spruce
It's usually what happens when you get Gen 5 genestealers
barren tapir
I mean we have known of gsc leavinng the doomed planet aboard ships
Only one such occurrence happened, enough to say that is possible, but not to say it is frequent
final spruce
Since Gen 5 are purestrain
They are able to become patriarchs
So either their replace the current one or go setup another cult elsewhere
My knowledge from GSC comes from their 8th edition codex
So take it with a bit of salt
barren tapir
8snt that also to help spread the brood infection
There are many ways on which a cult spread, sometime they ship pure genestealer to another planet, sometime thei infect a human that travel and can spread the infection... It depend on the GSO
Remember also that pure genestealers are effectively nids, and GSO use regularly pure genestealers during their uprising
tiny nova
GSC and Nids both use purestrains but purestrains can't make Nids, they are just useful to nids in the sense that they are covert and can make more of themselves and are still made out of biomatter that can be recycled for other nid purposes if needed, they can't do any of the eating planets stuff that's why GSC purpose is to call hive fleets
tiny nova
They aren't "effectively Nids"
peak hamlet
They are nids
tiny nova
They are Nids as much as any mass that Nids eat, they are aligned with them but they are their own thing as well
peak hamlet
They are a nid species just as the other gaunts or larger monsters
tiny nova
Those species can and do repurpose biomatter, Nids don't they are just food when they die/become unoptimal for the situation
It's like saying a kroot is a Tau based on the fact that they work together.
peak hamlet
Genestealers are nids tho. They will get created by hive fleets if that fleet need them
Thus they are nids
peak hamlet
It's like saying a kroot is a Tau based on the fact that they work together.
Thats a very unfitting comparison
tiny nova
If that's the case then why aren't 3-5th generation genestealers loyal to nids?
tiny nova
Purestrains come from that though. Nah when the Nids show up they're like oh shit we fucked up, they become disillusioned
It used to be that they got a happy end and just jumped into the spawning pools to be repurposed, but GW retconned that
peak hamlet
Humans arent always loyal to the hive fleet, genestealers are
tiny nova
In reference to the more human, genestealers are genestealers not humans, once you get the taint you are no longer human
tiny nova
They resemble humans physically more sure but that's a grey area because their babies come looking out like 2nd generation guys and theyre still bipedal but holy hot damn do they look scrambled. Alot of the lore for them is also conflicting when you look at the RT stuff
tiny nova
At the end of the day, hivefleets are 3d printers so they could make humans as well (which goes against the min max dogma of hivefleets) but genestealers existed before tyranids were in the galaxy so ide put them less akin to gaunts or threshers or any of the Kaiju and more inline with things like Zoats.
shell pebble
Fuckin' wish they'd print out something that actually looked hybridized with another species tbh
tiny nova
Gaunts and the full range was probably aliens from another galaxy
primal tide
For an ever evolving race they sure do stay the same
shell pebble
^
tiny nova
They still do have evolutions, Nids suck on tabletop for the same reason orks do(sometimes, right now they're ok) balance
shell pebble
For a race that wants to continue to adapt and evolve, they sure suck at making anything look different from the rest or give out something thats actually useful for the basic foot troops
I get the models have to look similar due to not wanting them to mistake models for something else but its head scratching at times
tiny nova
The points cost of a space marine squad and a group of gaunts wouldn't even be comparable, neither would the sm's destruction but it's a scale thing
It takes time to adapt and they've only been a thing for a little while compared to everyone else
I think the earliest spotting was like 37m maybe?
shell pebble
But in lore, they're known to be masters of adapting, quickly making up for weaknesses in battles
tiny nova
Yeah but when you fight someone on a water planet then you go to a desert planet the same evolutions won't work
So they have the most optimized template that modifies itself based on the current challenges it faces
peak hamlet
Thats why they don't use the same evolutions on a desert planet
shell pebble
I mean on a singular planet and doing their invasion schtick, they're known to adapt quickly
Added on their swarming tactics and any behind-the-scene espionage/assassination by GSC or Lurkers or what have you, it makes them a powerful threat
tiny nova
Yeah and there are multiple hive fleets that have different ideas of what's better/worse. They are a powerful threat they eat planets and take massive resources to stop. But whose to say the adaptations they make on one planet will work on the next? Also iirc they don't have warp travel so it takes them awhile to get around
shell pebble
Actually dont they just eat the surface of a planet according to recent lore?
They dont actually eat the entire planet its so dumb
tiny nova
Idk haven't read recent nid lore too much, I think they do about the equivalent of glassing a planet and sucking it's resources out with a straw
It's also hard to get adaptations when your hivefleet is destroyed
peak hamlet
They just eat every life form they can find and filter the atmosphere and surface off microorganisms
shell pebble
I find thats pretty dumb, because there's models that are known to eat inorganic material to fuel their weapons
Just eat the fuckin' planet man
shell pebble
Too much chipotle......
tiny nova
I think it's probably one of those things like I could lick the bottom of the bowl for scraps or I could just go get another full bowl
shell pebble
I doubt that
tiny nova
There's also the theory that they're running from something but there's not alot of credence to that
shell pebble
Thats more plausible
peak hamlet
Thats very stupid imo
primal tide
There's also the theory that they're running from something but there's not alot...
They're running from the galactic equivalent of an empty pantry
storm jungle
Source: ||
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peak hamlet
Source: ||<a:froggychair:690409964686016572> ||
Thats..
tiny nova
Nids are hungry boys who gotta have their supper, and if there's not much left on a planet that they like to eat there's more planets
shell pebble
Anyway point is, I dont believe that gargantuan ships that use billions of resources to travel the stars and yet can produce billions of foot soldiers on a whim cannot adapt to whats going on within hours or days based on what said foot soldiers are experiencing via synapse
storm jungle
Yeah thats the thing with nids
they're incredibly OP species in realistic terms
its why they should have like 10000 bioforms ready to counter any form of combat counter against them
BUT its 40k and such things would probably destroy like half the imperium
hence why they gotta be shot in the knee with the plot-gun here and there
final spruce
Source: ||<a:froggychair:690409964686016572> ||
shell pebble
I feel like its almost forced though
storm jungle
Oh god yeah its forced
tiny nova
Otherwise we have another endtimes situation
storm jungle
hence my mention of the Plot Gun
shell pebble
Fuck, just have it be like "Oh they adapted to us? Just smash them harder lmao" and I'd be happy
primal tide
All adaptations happen off screen
And create results we've already seen before lol
shell pebble
Nornqueens should get fired from their jobs
storm jungle
LOL
shell pebble
They fuckin' suck at this
primal tide
Demoted to being genestealer matriarchs
peak hamlet
Plot gun for leviathan: single bloodthirster
HOLY SHIT LEVIATHAN BEAT A DEMON INVASION WHERE HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF DEMONS ENTERED REALITY EVERY SINGLE FUCKING SECOND INCLUDING 4 GREATER DEMONS
AAAAAAAAAAAA
tiny nova
Nid space travel is slower than warping, it's more reliable but it's considerably slower and 741 m41 was the first contact with Nids
They are a looming threat with awful tabletop rules for 9th edition but strong fluff
shell pebble
Know what I want? A story focused on a Suicide Squad-esque band of different traitor marines fending off a Tyranid invasion in fear of it's Shadow disrupting and destroying their chances of taking an Imperial world over
Hell throw in a couple cultists and one semi-sane Chaos Spawn
peak hamlet
Thats kinda what i plan as homebrew lore for my red corsairs warband
There is a civil war going on and they ally with on of the fractions and eventually ally with the others to fend off a single hiveship
shell pebble
That sounds pretty cool
peak hamlet
Thanks
I suck at fleshing it out more tho
I just wanted an excuse to use tons of renegade militia tbh
shell pebble
That sounds pretty rad
peak hamlet
And to use tanks you cant use with csm
storm jungle
what kind of bullshit is that
peak hamlet
😔
peak hamlet
what kind of bullshit is that
Never share anything with u again :,(
storm jungle
I meant not being able to use csm
smh tabletop
they're our toys we can do what we want
peak hamlet
I just paint them, i would never get around playing with anybody lol
My army wouldn't work for tabletop anyway
shell pebble
Its cool that you got an army to paint
peak hamlet
I just don't see how a space marine would possibly fit into a tank made for humans
peak hamlet
Its cool that you got an army to paint
I got multiple
Money was wasted
Mistakes were made
shell pebble
It happens
shell pebble
Focus on what you got now
I get the excitement of buying new stuff
But focus on your other stuff for now if you got it
peak hamlet
Focus on what you got now
New stuff should arrive next week or so, already ordered
shell pebble
Damn
peak hamlet
But focus on your other stuff for now if you got it
Yes thats what i keep telling myself
Im happy i didn't by belakor
I could resist
shell pebble
Good
shell pebble
Just Ebay him in a few years lmao
peak hamlet
My plan
I really hate stripping shit tho
Started stripping a few bfg ships i ordered last year yesterday
shell pebble
Ah fair fair
peak hamlet
That shit fucking stinks
And i probably got high from breathing it all in over multiple hours
Lung cancer go brrr
shell pebble
Ahhh now thats pretty fucked
peak hamlet
Ahhh now thats pretty fucked
I also file resin without a mask or something
I am really stupid
shell pebble
Thats pretty dumb man, stay safe while doin' your hobby
shell pebble
Its cool, we all do stupid shit
peak hamlet
I do more stupid shit than others
vast frigate
I also file resin without a mask or something
fam
i used a dremel to fix up the supports for a friend's knight two days ago
i drilled the resin until it smoked from friction and i went onwards
crisp heath
I usually eat leftover resin
final spruce
Eating leftover resin so your body gets used to digesting resin so one day you can consume an entire titan.
peak hamlet
"I just consumed something worth a small car"
final spruce
I'm sure i'd make twice the money streaming it
peak hamlet
I'm sure i'd make twice the money streaming it
Lets hope that for you
frosty cobalt
Heres a take: Tau are cold-blooded
final spruce
That would made them reptiles
rotund siren
or fish
rotund siren
sharks are from a weird evolutionary offshoot, their skin is technically made of teeth, they don't count
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smoky mauve
😦
final spruce
<@&735928989146939404>
storm jungle
theyre shitty memes
I dont really get whats the point of this
like, its not even annoying since they're all gonna be deleted anyway
vast frigate
I dont really get whats the point of this
spamming and being edgy cause theyre bored
storm jungle
yeah i guess
crisp heath
The fuck.....
vast frigate
like
smoky mauve
Oh thank god
vast frigate
when someone gets banned it removes their posts anyway so...
storm jungle
Yeah not really a big loss
storm jungle
i guess so?
crisp heath
Maybe ?
storm jungle
I think so?
vast frigate
do they have it on standby on a second browser window?
smoky mauve
I just blocked em
storm jungle
Yeah lol
cold mango
was that all of 'em?
vast frigate
Whomstever is taking care of them its uh,
The Loli Legend #6008
finn #1392
blue spy #1194
storm jungle
Yup i think so
vast frigate
Its fine
crisp heath
Thanks chief
storm jungle
No worries, again it was just weird more than annoying
vast frigate
we were ridiculing them anyway LOL
smoky mauve
It happens, glad they're out of here.
storm jungle
LOL yeah
vast frigate
Like holy shit what?
vast frigate
they went through the effort to: Join, spam, FIND THAT STUFF
Save it
Because it was uploads, not links
crisp heath
I never understand those people doing that
vast frigate
its... cringcrong
crisp heath
Yeah
barren tapir
Yeah, it is kinda weird once the post are removed
smoky mauve
You think there is a lot of paper work involved post exterminatus?
crisp heath
Mmmh Facism religious ?
storm jungle
What kind of goverment
Yes.
barren tapir
Boomlover, it is better to ask what isn't... The answer is probably shorter
vast frigate
Okay uh
Every system of planets
See; Every solar system
has its own governing body
You have everything from highly religious farm planets and feudal-level worlds with kings and queens
storm jungle
In short its literally every evil regime imaginable condensed into each other along with some religious sects and slapped repeatedly so it keeps working.
vast frigate
to Ultra-communism
storm jungle
No lmao
smoky mauve
Its more like.... a semi religious Oligarchy
barren tapir
Now, it may pass as a joke, but stellaris have a nice govern system, which can help a bit when trying to understand what type of government the imperium can be
storm jungle
You know i just expected everyone to say facist
Nah imperium has fascism but its like one portion of it
its other aspects are equally bigger
smoky mauve
Where VAAAAAST amounts of power are isolated to a few.
storm jungle
again since its just a big bucket of 'isms
dim totem
What did I miss?
smoky mauve
A bunch of spammers
storm jungle
What did I miss?
Furry spammers that got banned
barren tapir
You know i just expected everyone to say facist
It is, but that is a simple answer, not the complete or the right though... And here we aren't for simple things... Otherwise we wouldn't like WH40K
crisp heath
Imperium goverment is a pure chaos
storm jungle
Yeah lmao
smoky mauve
It was pretty wild
barren tapir
Furry spammers that got banned
Og god... I didn't understood it was furry spam...
crisp heath
I prefert chill with my pointy ears in a paradies world alone
dim totem
was it at least 40k related
smoky mauve
No
storm jungle
lmao no
dim totem
Aw
smoky mauve
Not at all lmao
smoky mauve
It was pretty bad lmao
dim totem
Smut sounds about right
prime kernel
@storm jungle remember when i was on about every community having a fucked up side
vast frigate
The actual overhanging IMPERIAL structure is uh
Well the imperium has laws every system has to abide to, while they leave governing to the general system, the actual imperium has a overhanging Boot on every throat that forces up the general things; worship the emperor, pay the tithe required for your planet
rotund siren
one person was just spamming a twerking Amongus crew member ;-;
barren tapir
I prefert chill with my pointy ears in a paradies world alone
Sorry to burst your bubble, but paradise world is a category of the imperium...
Maybe you was referring to maiden worlds...
prime kernel
Well we just saw it !!!
crisp heath
Sorry to burst your bubble, but paradise world is a category of the imperium...
...
Oh....sorry for that i take notes, thanks
And yes
Maiden world
Both name accurate for same planet
prime kernel
So you can hang with your eldar gf @crisp heath
barren tapir
Np, i know that it is hard to remember stuff always, especially when there are so much stuff like in WH40K
crisp heath
I'm a Eldar woman
smoky mauve
I'm pretty sure it can be categorized as a whole as an Oligarchy, but each world and solar system can have different subsets. Like Cadia, I'm pretty sure would operate under a Military dictatorship... probably <_<. And like... say probably the sisters Ophelia system is a Religious Theocracy.
barren tapir
Both name accurate for same planet
Kinda, both are really pretty worlds... But maiden ones were made by the eldar, paradise world not necessarily, although some can be both indeed
vast frigate
Again 90% of it is up to the local solar command
smoky mauve
.... what would MacCragge be?
crisp heath
And i prefert Tau than Imperium
vast frigate
Heavy Militairy and marine ruled
vast frigate
.... what would MacCragge be?
^
vast frigate
Eh
smoky mauve
Been said its a meritocratic sorta thing?
vast frigate
a superstate from what i learned from Shira calpurnia
like
the governing body has final choice but there are elections
smoky mauve
Where HOPEFULLY the people most able to lead are put there. But who knows?
barren tapir
Military oligarchy
vast frigate
That
barren tapir
While cadia was a military stratocracy
smoky mauve
Ahhh
barren tapir
It is good to have again a functioning brain...
The bad thing is that not having used it most of the day means that i might overtalk a bit
crisp heath
Dilara doubt what i say, i'm sad
prime kernel
I mean your pf isnt helping
crisp heath
Its the purple, right ?
wispy widget
Hey gents I have a weird question can a power weapon say a power sword cut through walls and things similar to a light saber?
final spruce
It could lorewise
wispy widget
But most just dont use it that way?
final spruce
No idea
wispy widget
Hmmm power fists do break space hulk doors in a hit so I guess so
rotund siren
There is a power hammer, iirc, that is used in mining or something like that
wispy widget
Thanks for the help gents
vast frigate
It can
the thing is that its a weapon sheathed in a power field
the stronger the field, the better the damaging power it has @wispy widget
So, if its a really strong field, its going right through that doo
door*
final spruce
My logic was is that its able to cut through ceramite armor and tank armor
vast frigate
not exactly
final spruce
So it should be able to cut a reinforced door
vast frigate
it has all to do with the type of weapon
Like anything a cutting edge is better for punching through unless your force amplifier is high enough for it to not matter
plucky moth
<@!159521795853123584>
what'd I miss?
also why does all this happen when I'm bloody sleeping lmao
smoky mauve
Person spamming a lotta porn
plucky moth
ah
smoky mauve
Oh. Wait. Persons haha
final spruce
Being annoying I assume
odd sparrow
i just hope they don't spam anything worse tbh
potent swift
Reading through Gate of Bones right now and Colquan is just, like, the biggest dick. He's not evil or anything, he's just an unrepentant asshole and the fact that he does yoga too just makes it funnier.
storm jungle
also sews carpets iirc? lol
potent swift
also sews carpets iirc? lol
And plays multiple instruments, that are Custode sized, and more than likely he made himself. In fact, I'm pretty sure he makes his own furniture too. The man's as good at putting things together as he is taking people apart.
final spruce
Custodes have hobbies too
potent swift
I never really paid much attention to Custodes but this book is making them out to be pretty interesting. It's also doing a handy job of improving their image to me after that short story where one goes full meme Inquisitor and starts executing Greyshields cause the chapter they're going to went Renegade.
final spruce
Isn't there a japanese proverb that is like "It's better to be a warrior in a garden than a gardener on a battlefield." ?
cursive hull
It does make sense that lifewards would need to learn some hobbies. Most of the time they won't be doing much of anything important.
Kinda applies wholesale for the entire setting, tbh.
Space Marines and pretty much all transhumans need hobbies of some kind because they won't always be fighting.
Its just more important for the Custodes because they don't do anything the majority of the time.
thin horizon
I'm gonna be that guy: I think there arent enough katanas in 40k.
final spruce
Ya got Taus, Death cult assassins and White Scars
thin horizon
I personally practice german longsword, but katanas are pretty cool.
Taus dont use katanas that I'm aware, death cult I'm not familiar with, and white scars are based on mongols
final spruce
But all 3 do use them
Taus well don't really because its their ritual weapon and if someone reaches tau warriors in melee well they are in a pickle
Death cult assassins do use power katanas and one of the successor chapters of white scars do use katanas
atomic pelican
If ur talking abt the bonding knife Its not a katana
Its pretty small. Idk much abt eastern blades but maybe a wakizashi is more accurate?
Then again Im sure its had plenty of portrayals
final spruce
I think you're actually right on that one
Being closer to a wakizashi from the size
Then again katanas aren't that long
atomic pelican
Yeah the more I thinj abt it tho the more the bonding blade size varies
I just go by the size of the minis one
final spruce
Never held a tau mini in my hand so I cannot say
atomic pelican
Like the bigass one in fire warrior
final spruce
Damn you're right, even on more recent art its not that long
atomic pelican
Yeah I kinda always figured it was just the size of the knife that like
If youve ever seen samurai movies where they draw their smaller blwde to commit sepoku
That kinda size
final spruce
Then again you're the blueberry expert
atomic pelican
Teehee
final spruce
i'm more of a tabletop dude
crisp heath
Bloody one
vernal zinc
i think white scars listen to wolf totem in combat
and during the siege of terra the khan was blasting the hu while riding on top of a rhino
crisp heath
Ok
peak hamlet
i want to watch a melee dual between a white scar and a tau
That would end pretty quick
I doubt a tau can parry a hit without getting disarmed
vernal zinc
even in their power suits?
peak hamlet
Oh you mean a tau battlesuit?
Then that would be interresting
Thought youre talking regular tau dude with sword
peak hamlet
Like farsight
vernal zinc
not named characters
crisp heath
Imo a Broadsight can 1v1 a terminator in melee
peak hamlet
But hes like the only tau i ever saw with a melee weapon and the only tau that would be willing to do a melee duel
crisp heath
If im good, yes
smoky breach
Broadsight? You mean farsight?
smoky breach
That’s what I’m here for.
crisp heath
They are trained in melee
vernal zinc
i dont know the leader ship
what's the equivalent to a space marine lieutenant for the tau?
crisp heath
Shas'Ui ?
smoky breach
Shas’el are the veterans, right?
vernal zinc
tau lore i dont know
crisp heath
Dont remember
smoky breach
Shas’el are the veterans, right?
Ah wait that’s a commander.
crisp heath
Shas'Ui is more a Captain
crisp heath
More vet for lieut
odd sparrow
A saal is basically a student, la is a basic bitch, ui is like the leader of a single fire warrior squad, vre is probs piloting a crisis suit or smthn, idk about el and o is vibing directing the greater war effort or smthn
Or in a gundam
atomic pelican
I think El tend to be suit team leaders
And Vre tend to be the first rank to get a suit
Either that or Vre are suit team leaders and Ui get suits
I forgot
cerulean wagon
i think shas'ui are squad leads, so vre being the first rank with mechs makes sense
open marsh
Fire Caste ranks
Infantry forces:
Saal = trainee
La = private
Ui = sergeant
Battlesuit forces
Vre = Lieutenant
El = Captain
O = General
atomic pelican
i think shas'ui are squad leads, so vre being the first rank with mechs makes se...
I think its both actuallu
Ui both lead infantry squads and are crisis suit operators
cerulean wagon
fair
open marsh
Yeh. Its just rarer
atomic pelican
Theyre like the default crisis suit op
open marsh
Like you gotta be a bonified badass by the time you hit Ui rank to get a battlesuit that early
Tho they probably will get to start piloting them as they get closer to Vre eligibility
atomic pelican
Yeah Vre are just the officer variant
I dont have my codex atm so I just vhecked scribe
open marsh
Yeah. I'm with you in being pretty sure Ui is a mix of both. Some Ui being infantry squad leaders, others being members of Battlesuit teams
odd sparrow
Ye
open marsh
Its nice having an all around agreement for once instead of someone crashing through the wall with a "Um achskually"
open marsh
barren tapir
I'm gonna be that guy: I think there arent enough katanas in 40k.
It seems you don't know about Vasenrule...
Or about nagasena...
And i'm pretty sure that there was another instance of an imperium world or force that used katanas...
And no, the white scar don't use katanas...
summer niche
why would white scars use katanas? they're inspired from the mongols aren't they?
barren tapir
Yes
summer niche
mongolian sabers are tite too though
barren tapir
And i have no idea why people up in the comments said that they used them
summer niche
maybe an unforunate case of thinking asians all being the same
odd sparrow
,,, I mean
barren tapir
Ehy Ratty, don't want to sound mean, but i prefer the old profile image
odd sparrow
Ehy Ratty, don't want to sound mean, but i prefer the old profile image
Well I like to be able to see who I am in convos involving lots of ppl with white avatars with thin black lines on them
barren tapir
True
visual pumice
i thought they were japanese cause of the white and red. wasn't till i saw the named guys i realised they weren't
odd sparrow
I am very practical
barren tapir
I had problems too differentiating you from Atlas or Dream
visual pumice
Well I like to be able to see who I am in convos involving lots of ppl with whit...
calling me out?
jk
odd sparrow
I absolutely was
visual pumice
well
barren tapir
I did
visual pumice
i retract my jk
cerulean wagon
wait people do convos off pfp
plucky moth
I can't read, Skelly
vast frigate
white, grey, BLUE
barren tapir
actually I probs don't count, my hair is thick
For me your profile image was easily recognizable, and the yellow name also help
odd sparrow
actually I probs don't count, my hair is thick
Ye yours is more distinct
plucky moth
shell pebble
Basically yeah
atomic pelican
Return to beakie
radiant heath
I’m here to steal ya memes
open marsh
It seems you don't know about Vasenrule...
Or about nagasena...
And i'm pretty s...
Death Cult assassins use power katanas
final spruce
maybe an unforunate case of thinking asians all being the same
Nah It was me saying that one of the White Scars successors, the Mantis Warriors that are heavily inspired by japanese and chinese culture use power katanas.
But yes White Scars are mongolian inspired, they have everything from the rapid strike cavalry focused game to facial features and names
shell pebble
Step Battle Brother, I am pinned here--
rotund siren
I know Dilara complains about him a lot, she may know
vast frigate
@storm jungle complain for me ❤️
summer niche
just gav thorpe things
basicly wrote retarded eldar from what i've understood
was supposed(?) to be about how cool teh eldar are
but they just look like dumbasses
atomic pelican
Eldar get fucked in their own books and are written as complete morons despite being m illenia old
gav has to crank his dark angel hog really hard and destroy eldar wheneve rhe can
vast frigate
ayes
atomic pelican
For example, a short story where a eldar autarch, a warrior who has walked every aspect path and has millenia of military experience, panicking and ordering his troops to fire shuriken weapons into a tank
rather than squishy marines
storm jungle
Theres really nothing to complain about
atomic pelican
then describes a guardian cowering in fear
storm jungle
the guy just cant write eldar
thats really it lol
also yeah that
the guy wrote half the eldar lore yet contradicts it all the time
summer niche
i will still claim that path of eldar books has some cool aspects shown of eldar society
mainly the warface and the aspects
summer niche
y-yeah...
storm jungle
When the eldar go to war it all goes to hell
its kinda funny in a way, but its just the same ol same ol
summer niche
i remember liking the description of the warp prism as well
storm jungle
Yeee
but then you know
you got a love triangle to care about deyj
dont you like those forced in your face
summer niche
oof
storm jungle
lmao
summer niche
; _ ;
storm jungle
can someone get me the TLDR on gav thrope fucking up eldar lore
But jokes aside
what do you want to know
like, specifically, is it the ynnari stuff?
vast frigate
nah its just the general dumb stuff and why hes a bad donk writer
storm jungle
Ah
So as said above he writes eldar culture extremely well
borrowing a lot from celtic, hindu and egyptian elements
but when it comes to writing war scenes he HAS TO bring up constantly that the eldar are a dying species
aka they just get killed and the main character cries about it
storm jungle
Yeee good point
OR the farseers/seers in his stories and their prophecies
ALWAYS
and I mean
ALWAYS
read the future wrong
storm jungle
Lol exactly
summer niche
it's hard to write a story when even the main chars don't think they can do anything
storm jungle
^
And guess what happens! More eldar die!
So thats really just it.
If you want a prime example of gav's writing; and one Proud was referencing; take a look at this 1 month old excerpt from r40klore
and this is just a short story
He only dimly recalled the battles that had raged through the domes of his craftworld, though the memory of the Emperor’s Space Marines was far more distinct. Terrifying giants with warengines that had killed hundreds of his fellow eldar.
To consider such brutal power married to the worship of the Dark Gods sent a fresh shiver of anxiety coursing through his body. All instinct told him that he should flee.
rotund siren
...
atomic pelican
shuriken weapons can fucking shred spcae marine armor btw
if I recall from the craftworld codex
which is like
vast frigate
iirc anything eldar
vast frigate
their weapons are ultra-tech
storm jungle
A FUCKING WEAPON THAT FIRES CONCENTRATED ATOM CANT DAMAGE THEIR RHINO APC
vast frigate
like
atomic pelican
YEP
storm jungle
A hail of mono-molecular discs slashed into the power-armoured warriors,striking sparks from the ceramic plates, leaving scars across the black pain tand gilded decoration. Here and there one of the augmented humans fell or reeled back, an eye-lens shattered or a weaker seal in his war-plate rupturedby the stream of projectiles.
primal tide
Probably didn't concentrate hard enough
storm jungle
: Oh no my paint!
primal tide
Lol, aim for the weaker seals or eye lenses
storm jungle
How can a species where 70% of its culture devoted to war do such a thing chapin
vast frigate
Well
storm jungle
you speak nonsense
vast frigate
ceramite is apparently sealed inside of the paint
so, thats the sacrificial layer gone
storm jungle
But yeah basically thats the deal with gav
Hes the only major eldar writer, so it makes it even worse
storm jungle
Yeeee, like tbh I just dont care at this point
i will complain but then just ignore it for another few weeks
lmao
primal tide
Has gav written anything for aos?
summer niche
not much else you can do
storm jungle
Yep
also uh AOS? Let me check
he hasnt been with GW yet for awhile, he writes from outside the studio iirc
AH HE HAS
primal tide
Oh no
primal tide
Dare I ask for more info
storm jungle
primal tide
Hmmm
storm jungle
tbh im not an aos so i cant speak on the quality
summer niche
what's a khul?
storm jungle
His most work is in 40k and theres where i know him from
summer niche
^
primal tide
tbh im not an aos so i cant speak on the quality
I think we can guess
storm jungle
iirc Gav is also hated a lot for making Dark Angel novels always revolve around the Fallen?
But thats just a rumor i heard
primal tide
Dilara was never heard from again
storm jungle
⚰️
rotund siren
is he the reason for all of those Fallen Angels memes?
storm jungle
From what I've seen the Fallen meme pops up and goes around sometimes but i havent seen it as frequently
primal tide
It is kinda hard to find lore for them that isn't related to the fallen
Videogames included
primal tide
Yeah
On paper theres a lot more cool stuff about them but they get pigeonholed into just hunting the fallen
summer niche
OUR DARK SECRET BURDEN BROTHER, WE MUST FIND THEM BROTHER
atomic pelican
Mariachi chapter
summer niche
ALSO LET'S MURDER ANYONE NO MATTER WHO, THAT ARE EVEN CLOSE TO FINDING OUT
queue ad infinitum
rotund siren
yea
storm jungle
Mariachi chapter
atomic pelican
that trailer was the best part of the game
storm jungle
Like
I can understand if you dont like the opening portions
but this part is just pog
storm jungle
LUL yep
summer niche
i had never seen the deathwing trailer
storm jungle
Yeah its really buried
I feel like it wouldnt be as bad if Dark Angels had any hispanic themes to them
but they're just entirely medieval so
storm jungle
TIME TO DIE EL TYRANIDO
summer niche
La gente esta muy loca - inquisitor
final spruce
rotund siren
soap opera 40k when?????
strange depot
Bollywood 40K
summer niche
the heck is this?
peak hamlet
Yeah that thumbnail doesnt help at all sadly
peak hamlet
Yeah
summer niche
everyday i move further from the light of the emperor.
||And i do not even regret it||
peak hamlet
Not enought I AM THE HAMMER.
I AM THE POINT OF HIS SPEAR!
I AM THE MAIL ABOUT HIS FIST.
I AM THE BANE OF HIS FOES, AND THE WOES OF THE TREACHEROUS.
I AM THE END for my taste tho
summer niche
i've always liked that quote
summer niche
maybe it was for the better, but yeah
coarse mirage
Aren't Dark Angels a combination of Native American tribes and Arthurian knights lore?
primal tide
They have a very masonic lodge secret society aesthetic thing going on, not sure about the cultural identity tho
coarse mirage
I recall some comics where they had tann skin, bone necklaces and some tribal tattoos
peak hamlet
Those are carcharodons
coarse mirage
THey wore bone white
peak hamlet
Weirds
coarse mirage
I recall them being Deathwing but I might misremember
peak hamlet
Only terminators wear bone white tho
coarse mirage
Yeah they wore term
peak hamlet
I recall them being Deathwing but I might misremember
Actually they really could have been since a lot of them carry bones and skulls
No teeth tho
storm jungle
@odd sparrow
As Fulgrim sought to push himself to his feet, Marius Vairosean jammed the end of his sonic cannon into Fulgrim’s neck and unleashed a barrage of squalling harmonics that filled the gallery with ear-bleeding noise. Lucius cried out in pain, and Fulgrim’s eyes rolled back in their sockets as he let out a groan of what sounded very much like delirious pleasure.
odd sparrow
,,,,
‘I welcome suffering,’ said Fulgrim with bared teeth.
okay so noted he's a MASSIVE masochist
storm jungle
I wasnt kidding when I said this scene is gay as hell
‘Enough talking,’ said Lucius, snatching up a set of bladed pliers and sliding them over the middle finger of Fulgrim’s right hand. With one swift, even pressure, he severed the finger at the middle knuckle, and a squirt of blood pulsed from the wound before slowing to a drip.
Fulgrim howled, but whether it was in pain or pleasure Lucius could not tell.
Fabius snatched the pliers from Lucius with an angry scowl.
‘Excruciation is a precise and meticulous art, a stepped pyramid of pain,’ he said. ‘To randomly cut and maim is the work of amateurs. I will have no part in such butchery.’
cursive hull
Being aggressively masochistic sounds like a thing Fulgrim would be.
potent swift
An experienced Dom teaching a newbie the ropes
primal tide
Dorn slides into his vacbed painglove
crisp heath
@atomic pelican in the interest of trying to follow server rules/channel designations it might be better to continue this here
Are the Craftworlders as bad as the Imperium, or at least to a degree comparable in their treatment of themselves and other races in the name of survival
atomic pelican
I suppose it just depends on how you look at it
They dont genocide species for the sake of purging, and are generally isolationists
But have no qualms say, unleashing thrakka on a entire string of worlds to save themselves via prophecy
crisp heath
Well there you go, every race can justify it's atrocities lol
atomic pelican
Not quite. The Imperium will eliminate xenos just for existing, Craftworlders generally atleast have some reason
crisp heath
The truth being that humans don't xenocide simply to get off on the extermination, but the threat posed by the other, especially given the threats humanity has encountered and lost to, or suffered a great cost from
atomic pelican
Thats not to say theyre innocent by any means
crisp heath
Well thanks for the info I really need to read up more on the other races, my primary interests were certain 30k races, the imperium, or tyranids
crisp heath
90% of Xenos in lore have or are openly hostile to human race and frequently carry planetwide wars of devastation and brutality on billions of innocent men, women, and children
Redditors: "How dare the fascist Imperium kill aliens, haven't they heard of aliens like Spock????"
atomic pelican
Tfw pulling a 90% stat completely out of thin air
odd sparrow
Do we have imperium defenders
primal tide
"What are you arguing in favor of? To be a man in such times is to be one amongst untold billions. It is to live in the cruelest and most bloody regime imaginable. Think Chud, think!"
odd sparrow
F
crisp heath
I wish people would give up chud, it's embarrassing to read, you'd think after a hundred years they'd have a better insult
atomic pelican
Its pretty new
primal tide
Bro I can assure you I have not been saying chud for 100 years
atomic pelican
Immortan chapin
primal tide
I wish tho, itd fit my old man aesthetic
crisp heath
I mean after a hundred years of "fighting fascists"
primal tide
I would love to fight fashies for 100 years
atomic pelican
Ur going to prove the black templar stereotype arent you
crisp heath
Not particularly I just think chud is a cringy insult
Not that I mean to insult you chapin
primal tide
Oh don't worry, I'm not insulted
crisp heath
And yeah unironically it'd be better to die a child laborer in a hive world falling into a vat of molten metal because the machine god willed it, and the mechanicus declared safety railings heretical than to serve any other group in the 40k universe, unless maybe you were just born on ork, but that would be little better than being born a Tyranid lol
primal tide
Idk man, I think Id rather be a butler for some tau than a child boiled alive in metal
Not trying to kinkshame tho
crisp heath
Lol to each their own
crisp heath
Ur going to prove the black templar stereotype arent you
And my political leanings go as far as A. I want to live, and B. I do my best to be kind to everyone I meet, and help those I can. I like the Black Templars because I like the color black and they, like the dark angles have an amusing character. In practicality I'd probably be better off with a faction that allowed psykers
atomic pelican
Its fine im just teasing
primal tide
I do enjoy the black templars not giving a shit about the codex astartes
punk rock vibes
crisp heath
One of their better qualities ironically
atomic pelican
The more out there chapters in that aspect are def more interesting
Probs why UM are so boring to me
crisp heath
I do like the UMs as some kind of representation of order, perfection, an ideal. But they're not as tested in as difficult or interesting of fights as many other chapters must endure, and the aesthetic of the chapter* is kind of boring and unimaginative as a result
peak hamlet
I like their aesthetic, roman empire marines are dope. Problem is they usually just get displayed as bland marines without any iconography