#40k-lore-chat | Darktide | Page 1875

rotund siren Apr 21, 2021, 1:00 PM

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Just “Shh, shh, there’s no xenotech here, there’s nothing going on don’t worry about it”

barren tapir Apr 21, 2021, 1:00 PM

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Stick to this server, and this channel in particular and you will learn a lot of things about WH40K

rose thorn Apr 21, 2021, 1:01 PM

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barren tapir Stick to this server, and this channel in particular and you will learn a lot of...

i learn most of my lore from lore hammer and here anyway

barren tapir Apr 21, 2021, 1:03 PM

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The Ordo Xenos felt differently, however, and in M36 a dozen Deathwatch Kill-Teams launched a devastating invasion of the Forge World. Stygies VIII was forced to employ radical measures to survive the Deathwatch's attempted purge[5b], and in the aftermath its Tech-Priests grew fearful of the growing record of violations against them. In order to rectify this, they launched a series of stealth attacks, using viral programming, machine canticles, and infiltration methods to destroy or alter the Adeptus Administratum documents and even the datastacks of the Inquisition that contain information about Stygies VIII. Self-perpetuating programs ensure the obfuscation is continuous
From Lexicanum page on Stygies VIII

open marsh Apr 21, 2021, 1:04 PM

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Codex: Adeptus Mechanicus (8th Edition), pg. 33 — The Quest for Knowledge: Missing from Imperial Records

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got it

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I have that codex. Just forgot that entry

barren tapir Apr 21, 2021, 1:06 PM

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Btw, if you have any info about Stygies VIII i'm kinda interested

open marsh Apr 21, 2021, 1:07 PM

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The Mechanicus game has a good bit on it

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Especially the Xenarites

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And the line between radical and heretek

vast frigate Apr 21, 2021, 1:13 PM

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@barren tapir i was remembering it like that

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Could be a mixup

crisp heath Apr 21, 2021, 1:38 PM

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FULGRIM LOOKS LIKE THAT?

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😳

storm jungle Apr 21, 2021, 1:40 PM

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Well thats him turning into a snake

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but yes overall hes a hottie most of the time

open marsh Apr 21, 2021, 1:41 PM

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Now he looksl ike this

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crisp heath Apr 21, 2021, 1:43 PM

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god i hate this thing so much

open marsh Apr 21, 2021, 1:44 PM

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Thats slaaneshy stuff for you

odd sparrow Apr 21, 2021, 2:00 PM

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Fulgrim is the only redeeming element of slaanesh

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Not as hot as sangy but

open marsh Apr 21, 2021, 2:03 PM

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Loyal Fulgrim is hotter

odd sparrow Apr 21, 2021, 2:03 PM

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Yea he's not so hot as a snake

open marsh Apr 21, 2021, 2:03 PM

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Hence why the Fulgrim clone is the hottest

odd sparrow Apr 21, 2021, 2:03 PM

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nods

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He has pretty hair

open marsh Apr 21, 2021, 2:04 PM

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This is a case where we know it isnt maybelline

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Cause the Fulgrim clone was born with it

rotund siren Apr 21, 2021, 2:05 PM

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damn straight

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well

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damn yes

open marsh Apr 21, 2021, 2:05 PM

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kek

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@odd sparrow Did you see that excerpt I posted of that Dark Eldar who actually got spat back out by Slaanesh. Dude was so nasty even Slaanesh didnt want him

odd sparrow Apr 21, 2021, 2:07 PM

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Gonna be passing this nasty elf soul around the realm of chaos indefinitely cus nobody wants it

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Eventually u give it to the bottom feeders

open marsh Apr 21, 2021, 2:07 PM

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Well he got to respawn. Like the Aeldari of old

rotund siren Apr 21, 2021, 2:07 PM

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Wow

odd sparrow Apr 21, 2021, 2:07 PM

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,, how does that work

open marsh Apr 21, 2021, 2:07 PM

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Literally nothing in the warp wanted him

odd sparrow Apr 21, 2021, 2:07 PM

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Lol

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What even

rotund siren Apr 21, 2021, 2:07 PM

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Is this like that one Marvel character?

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fuckin uh

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Lobo or whatever

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who can't die because Heaven rejects him and Hell doesn't want him

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or some edgy shit like that

open marsh Apr 21, 2021, 2:08 PM

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He was basically a meth head (called a stimmhead) who was A. just absolutely pathetic on every level. B. Had no ambitions or wants.

crisp heath Apr 21, 2021, 2:08 PM

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lobo rocks

open marsh Apr 21, 2021, 2:08 PM

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rotund siren who can't die because Heaven rejects him and Hell doesn't want him

Basically

rotund siren Apr 21, 2021, 2:08 PM

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open marsh He was basically a meth head (called a stimmhead) who was A. just absolutely pat...

lmao, loser

open marsh Apr 21, 2021, 2:09 PM

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Like even other Dark Eldar looks at him as below even Mon'keighs

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Just

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dude is pathetic

odd sparrow Apr 21, 2021, 2:09 PM

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This particular delf is a mood

rotund siren Apr 21, 2021, 2:09 PM

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but I guess that's neat? not having any wants is, like, the goal of monks, isn't it?

odd sparrow Apr 21, 2021, 2:09 PM

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Tfw even the evil gods in ur setting don't want u

open marsh Apr 21, 2021, 2:10 PM

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rotund siren but I guess that's neat? not having any wants is, like, the goal of monks, isn't...

Yeah. when a 40k macguffin was activated and everyone saw their deepest want or fears (basically like an imbalance in their souls), the dude just saw himself. As one would look in a mirror. Meaning that, strangely, dude had achieved inner peace

rotund siren Apr 21, 2021, 2:10 PM

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wow

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good for him

open marsh Apr 21, 2021, 2:11 PM

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So the solution to avoiding Slaanesh:

Do meth

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Lots of meth

rotund siren Apr 21, 2021, 2:11 PM

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lmao

odd sparrow Apr 21, 2021, 2:11 PM

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Will do

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Reject the dark gods embrace crack

rotund siren Apr 21, 2021, 2:11 PM

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yeah sounds like a good plan

open marsh Apr 21, 2021, 2:12 PM

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Even Slaanesh says no to meth

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@odd sparrow But yeah. Ill grab some excerpts

odd sparrow Apr 21, 2021, 2:12 PM

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I feel slaanesh would be more into magic mushrooms or smthn

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Nurgle is a peaceful wholesome mushroom man who just likes weed

rotund siren Apr 21, 2021, 2:13 PM

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hrmm

odd sparrow Apr 21, 2021, 2:13 PM

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Khorne doesn't know what that syringe contains but he knows it helps with committing homicide

open marsh Apr 21, 2021, 2:13 PM

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odd sparrow Nurgle is a peaceful wholesome mushroom man who just likes weed

Nurgle is backwater gas station, uncleaned toilet mushrooms

rotund siren Apr 21, 2021, 2:13 PM

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I feel like Nurgle would be a fan of alcohol more than anything

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I mean, like, moonshine

odd sparrow Apr 21, 2021, 2:14 PM

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Idk maybe, he's got that whole despair vibe going on

open marsh Apr 21, 2021, 2:14 PM

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rotund siren I feel like Nurgle would be a fan of alcohol more than anything

Alcohol is used as a cleaning agent. So no

odd sparrow Apr 21, 2021, 2:14 PM

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Alcohol with messed up fermentation?

open marsh Apr 21, 2021, 2:14 PM

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odd sparrow Idk maybe, he's got that whole despair vibe going on

Even worked at a backwater gasstation. I have. It is despair

rotund siren Apr 21, 2021, 2:14 PM

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Gonna be honest, I don't think moonshine cleans anything, save for maybe brain cells

odd sparrow Apr 21, 2021, 2:14 PM

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I can imagine

open marsh Apr 21, 2021, 2:15 PM

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rotund siren Gonna be honest, I don't think moonshine cleans anything, save for maybe brain c...

No it is a powerful sanitizer. Its why during the pandemic so many booze factories were easily converted to making sanitizer

odd sparrow Apr 21, 2021, 2:15 PM

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Alcohol can be used as a cleaning vibe, hence why medieval surgeons might use hot wine or smthn to try to prevent stuff from getting infected

rotund siren Apr 21, 2021, 2:16 PM

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yes

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high proof alcohol is a very good sanitizer

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you got me

odd sparrow Apr 21, 2021, 2:16 PM

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So ye always keep a bottle of strong wine around if u get hurt, it sanitises and also functions as a painkiller :D

rotund siren Apr 21, 2021, 2:16 PM

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what a shocker

odd sparrow Apr 21, 2021, 2:16 PM

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It just works

rotund siren Apr 21, 2021, 2:16 PM

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I'm so surprised

open marsh Apr 21, 2021, 2:16 PM

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@odd sparrow

 Marek, on the other hand, rolled over and fell off the couch, planting his face on the none-too-clean floor.
 ‘Yeuch.’ There was something on his tongue that he really did not want to identify. He turned his head and saw the boots standing next to him. Slowly, he looked up. Standing over him, with an expression of infinite disgust on his face, was a kabalite warrior. From the markings on his clothes and weapons, he was a warrior of the Kabal of the Pierced Rose.
 ‘Hello,’ said Marek.
 The warrior kicked him.
 ‘Get up.’
 Marek rolled onto his side and then sat up.
 ‘What do you want?’
 The warrior kicked him again. ‘I want you on your feet so that I can get out of this place.’
 Marek smiled a twisted, lazy smile up at the warrior. ‘Want some? It’s good…’
 The warrior kicked him again. This time in the mouth.```

odd sparrow Apr 21, 2021, 2:17 PM

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Hvuvvuvigf

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I love that

open marsh Apr 21, 2021, 2:17 PM

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Marek Krayt, shrugging, got to his feet and followed him, pausing to spit blood on his way out. As Marek checked his teeth – for a stimmhead, he had retained a surprising number of them – he thought that a summons from the Kabal of the Pierced Rose might mean some profit for him, some proper profit. That would be just what he needed. He knew his body could not take much more of the abuse and the general lack of food: Marek paid for stimms but only stole food when he remembered to eat.

odd sparrow Apr 21, 2021, 2:17 PM

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Kalabite having none of his shit

open marsh Apr 21, 2021, 2:18 PM

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Anyway. he got dragged into 40k fuckery and wound up on the wrong side of the Carcharodons. Who had set explosive traps all over the place

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 At least, he thought he was. He was looking down upon his body – that he could see it at all, when it was buried beneath half a mountain, told him more than he wished to know – and seeing it, twisted, with his skull half crushed and a foot reduced to bloody pulp.
 But there had been times in the den when he had floated above his body, looking down upon himself, secure in the golden glow of the bouquet. Perhaps this was a similar dream, a final wringing out of all the chemicals with which he had steeped his body.
 Around him, Marek saw the crushed remains of the kabalite warriors, and of the dracon himself, Samnir Lekryr, and from their crushed bodies he saw their souls rise, shrivelled, leathery things of great endurance but ugly beyond reckoning. But then Marek Krayt realised that the souls were not rising, they were being pulled out of their bodies. Sucked out and up and down and away. Sucked through the thin veils of irreality that hid the Dark City from the thirst of She Who Waited for their souls. But death had stripped the veils away. She could see them now, she could feel them, she could call them and bring them to her.```

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 Although he had no eyes to see, Marek saw, and more clearly than he had ever seen before. She Who Thirsts was swallowing them, swallowing the souls of the damned, and he was sliding down towards the hungry abyss and, despite the psychic scream that he sent up, there was nothing and no one to slow his descent.```

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 And then he was gone. He was spat forth, too vile even for Her.```

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 And as the wild, tumultuous ride slowed and he felt again the call of his flesh, he saw through the shields and veils that hid the Dark City from She Who Thirsts: he saw the Supreme Overlord, Asdrubael Vect himself, pace the floor of his great viewing platform, looking out over the jagged towers of the Dark City; he saw through the darkness that shrouded the deeps of the mandrakes to the skull halls of Kheradruakh, the Decapitator, brooding over his heads; he saw the colosseum, filled to its highest level, and the grey giants standing at bay on the arena floor, the grey giants and Dracon Utakk, who had sent him to his fate and his escape.
 Marek Krayt fell back into his body and woke, coughing and choking, his mouth filled with dust and his eyes closed by dirt and his lungs clogged with debris. He woke, flailing, fighting, falling.```

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 ‘I’m alive!’```

storm jungle Apr 21, 2021, 2:24 PM

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coarse mirage Apr 21, 2021, 2:57 PM

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I really wish AdMech weren't so superstitious and religious.

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I just want robots.

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I got a nice conversation between Salt and Kruber last night where Salt tells him that if he dies, Kruber can have his sword of office

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Kruber gets stumped and wonders why, Salt says "So that others know I liked you."

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I paraphrase but that's the jist of it

crisp heath Apr 21, 2021, 4:25 PM

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The voice lines in chaos wastes make it seem like they’re all pals now. Its pretty cool to see them appreciating each other now.

placid timber Apr 21, 2021, 4:41 PM

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"do you know how these chaos wastes were formed Kruber?"

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...

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"frogs"

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"I heard REAAAAALLY big frogs"

rotund siren Apr 21, 2021, 4:42 PM

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I mean, that's not wrong, but that is hilarious

placid timber Apr 21, 2021, 4:42 PM

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"that sounds about right" bardin conjectures seriously

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also theyve established a sorta timeline

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these events are happening right at the beginning of the endtimes books

cerulean wagon Apr 21, 2021, 4:43 PM

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if u talk to lohner

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he mentions setra n stuff

placid timber Apr 21, 2021, 4:43 PM

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first thing lohner said to me when i booted the game

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after teh update

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"theres an Asarai host headed towards sylvannia...I wonder what thats all about?"

visual pumice Apr 21, 2021, 4:43 PM

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cerulean wagon he mentions setra n stuff

noticed that. dig it

cerulean wagon Apr 21, 2021, 4:44 PM

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i like the voice lines of people asking sienna what god she would be

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and bardin ending it with "i don't think anyone needs that wisdom"

placid timber Apr 21, 2021, 4:44 PM

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bardin settling with the god of "gobbo slaying"

crisp heath Apr 21, 2021, 4:49 PM

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Valaya is my homie 🍻

primal tide Apr 21, 2021, 5:30 PM

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Lohner mentions that Leoncoeur is dead too, so thats pretty deep into end times now right

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Lexicanum dates that as happening during Geheimnisnacht 2525

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So that's what, 3 years til the end

dim totem Apr 21, 2021, 6:08 PM

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ver depress

primal tide Apr 21, 2021, 6:10 PM

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It's not all bad, we inch ever forward to getting Waylaid 2.0, where we fall into a portal to one of the mortal realms in age of sigmar

gaunt vector Apr 21, 2021, 6:25 PM

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placid timber "I heard REAAAAALLY big frogs"

the old ones?

placid timber Apr 21, 2021, 6:25 PM

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yes

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hes talking about the old ones lol

gaunt vector Apr 21, 2021, 6:26 PM

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ah ok

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the problem is that I read that with the voice of Alex Jones

coarse mirage Apr 21, 2021, 6:27 PM

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They also talk about, as you may have noticed, why we are facing just Rotbloods

placid timber Apr 21, 2021, 6:27 PM

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what do they get meta and start talking about how lazy the devs are?

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kidding

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im fucking kidding

gaunt vector Apr 21, 2021, 6:28 PM

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bold of u to say that in their own server

coarse mirage Apr 21, 2021, 6:28 PM

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primal tide Lohner mentions that Leoncoeur is dead too, so thats pretty deep into end times ...

And "that golden wall of Gelt's"

primal tide Apr 21, 2021, 6:37 PM

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Yeah, which is also gone by now

storm jungle Apr 21, 2021, 6:48 PM

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gaunt vector the problem is that I read that with the voice of Alex Jones

To be fair Alex Jones is the Elector Count of Middenheim

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gaunt vector Apr 21, 2021, 6:48 PM

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Indeed lul

gaunt vector Apr 21, 2021, 6:49 PM

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storm jungle https://youtu.be/ELRKfpU6H7Y?t=13

he sounds like an unsanctioned psyker trying to warn his people about what he can see in the warp

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but is desperatly confused

storm jungle Apr 21, 2021, 6:49 PM

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Sounds like him alright lmao

vagrant osprey Apr 21, 2021, 7:23 PM

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What kind of jerk names a town "Middenheim"

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That translates to "Home of the dungheap"

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Or "Shithole home"

rotund siren Apr 21, 2021, 7:38 PM

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huh

primal tide Apr 21, 2021, 7:39 PM

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Someone who's honest about their hometown

crisp heath Apr 21, 2021, 9:54 PM

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1d4chan is down AGAIN!???

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oh wait no

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its back to .org

rose thorn Apr 22, 2021, 1:38 AM

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Ok dumb lore question, when a tech priest becomes a Magos, do they still retain their priesthood. Like if an engiseer becomes a magos are they still an engiseer or at least still have traits of an engiseer?

open marsh Apr 22, 2021, 1:40 AM

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They are a Magos of whatever specialization they are granted

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So an Enginseer would likely be a Magos Dominus

rose thorn Apr 22, 2021, 1:40 AM

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Ooooo ok thanks!

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What would a Xenarite most likely become?

open marsh Apr 22, 2021, 1:52 AM

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Explorator

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or a Tech-Acquisitor

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Maybe a Dominus or Magos Errant

potent swift Apr 22, 2021, 1:58 AM

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Personally, I've always wondered what kind of nonsense a Magos has to do to be labeled Grand Parasite or Hyper-Rationalist

rose thorn Apr 22, 2021, 2:07 AM

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Thank you so much! Explorator is exactly what I want my magos to be

open marsh Apr 22, 2021, 2:18 AM

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Thats what my RPG Tech-priest character is

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(and he is a xenarite too)

crisp heath Apr 22, 2021, 2:18 AM

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Was Curze the first Primarch to kill imperial legionnaires? (Besides Russ)

potent swift Apr 22, 2021, 2:18 AM

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His own what? Legion?

crisp heath Apr 22, 2021, 2:18 AM

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fixed

open marsh Apr 22, 2021, 2:18 AM

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crisp heath Was Curze the first Primarch to kill imperial legionnaires? (Besides Russ)

No

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Angron was

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Like. That was The first fucking thing Angron did upon meeting his legion

crisp heath Apr 22, 2021, 2:19 AM

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LOL

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oh yeah and Perturabo did decimation

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when he met his

open marsh Apr 22, 2021, 2:19 AM

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he went on a fucking killing spree throughout his own flagship. Until the War Hounds could lock him in a room he couldnt bust out of

crisp heath Apr 22, 2021, 2:20 AM

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but what about killing marines from other legions? did that happen before curze went berzerk on dorn and his marines and fulgrim's dudes?

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Reading The Dark King rn and its kinda nuts that he did this before the Heresy

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How tf did they not kill Curze after that

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how does he get away with that

open marsh Apr 22, 2021, 2:30 AM

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crisp heath but what about killing marines from other legions? did that happen before curze ...

Well the first time would have had to been whatever happened with the Lost Legions

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I would have to get deep into the lore. Write out a whole timeline with lore book references. But I'll just give the summary. quick and easy:

The 11th Primarch likely sacrificed the 2nd Primarch to become the Chaos God "Malice". Their legions likely came to blows

crisp heath Apr 22, 2021, 2:33 AM

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WAaiiit I thought Russ was ordered to execute them, hence the title Emperor's Executioner

placid timber Apr 22, 2021, 2:43 AM

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Theres literally no concrete lore on either of the two lost legions @crisp heath

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Dont list to whatever the fuck anyone tells you

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Any info ranges from hints and speculation to really shitty fan fic

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The real truth?

crisp heath Apr 22, 2021, 2:43 AM

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i unno, medic knows their stuff doe... 🤔

placid timber Apr 22, 2021, 2:44 AM

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Gw wanted 2 legions, one traitor and one loyalist, that could literally be whatever the fuck you wanted

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Your own custom legion

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Then gw scrapped it because it was stupid and they couldnt make it worl

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So they got expunged from imperial record :)

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GW is never going to even remotely drop concrete stuff about the lost legions

open marsh Apr 22, 2021, 2:45 AM

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placid timber Theres literally no concrete lore on either of the two lost legions <@4562265777...

Except the lore that is

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Like the description of the 2nd Primarch

placid timber Apr 22, 2021, 2:46 AM

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What lore?

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Ive literally found nothing about these 2 legions in my time in the hobby that wasnt vague nonsense

open marsh Apr 22, 2021, 2:47 AM

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from Fulgrim's primarch novel:


He snorted. There was an old Terran saying, about pots and kettles. He'd refrained from sharing it at the time. His quiet brother had no sense of humour that he was aware of. Perhaps that was why he spoke so little."```

placid timber Apr 22, 2021, 2:47 AM

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Ah

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Vague nonsense

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:)

open marsh Apr 22, 2021, 2:48 AM

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Contemplative, prideful, no sense of humor, and quiet

placid timber Apr 22, 2021, 2:48 AM

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Dorn? Is that you?!?

open marsh Apr 22, 2021, 2:50 AM

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@crisp heath But yeah. The lore is there. A sentence here. A mention there. You will be hard pressed to find "X legion is like Y". And some people cant stand that. They like lore to be simple. A simple read. When the lore of the lost primarchs and their legions is more of a puzzle. A puzzle with many pieces still missing, but enough to get a good idea of what the image is

placid timber Apr 22, 2021, 2:52 AM

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Enough for you to make youre own ohwaitgwscrappedthatideaquickrewritelosttoimperialrecordssmile

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Christ im being an ass, sorry

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Its been a rough long night

open marsh Apr 22, 2021, 2:55 AM

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Get some sleep

placid timber Apr 22, 2021, 2:56 AM

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Currently working the nightshift

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Im not getting home until after midnight

crisp heath Apr 22, 2021, 2:56 AM

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😦

open marsh Apr 22, 2021, 2:59 AM

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I like night shifts

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Quieter

vagrant osprey Apr 22, 2021, 3:00 AM

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The lost primarchs and legions are not there to be a puzzle.

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They are there so that people can create 1 loyalist primarch and legion and 1 traitor primarch and legion

open marsh Apr 22, 2021, 3:01 AM

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That was the original intent. Yes. But its changed since those early editions

vagrant osprey Apr 22, 2021, 3:02 AM

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It has changed very little

open marsh Apr 22, 2021, 3:02 AM

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It has changed quite alot

vagrant osprey Apr 22, 2021, 3:03 AM

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How?

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The only solid lore we have is that they were expunged from the records

open marsh Apr 22, 2021, 3:04 AM

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Like the indications that the Soul Drinkers were founded from loyalist survivors of 1 of the lost legions that the Imperial Fists took in.

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And their specific geneseed flaw and chapter relic indicating a legion with a certain aptitude for the warp.

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In The First Heretic, when Argel Tal and the other Word Bearers are in the Emperor's gene-labs, they find the 11th's gestation pod. It is mentioned that the 11th was still "innocent and pure" prior to the Primarchs being scattered.

vagrant osprey Apr 22, 2021, 3:06 AM

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I thought the Soul Drinkers were supposed to be a Thousand Sons successor chapter.

open marsh Apr 22, 2021, 3:07 AM

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No. There is no indication they are Tsons. Given that the Imperial Fists have never been shown to take in Tsons. And yet the Soul Drinkers are 2nd founding "Imperial Fists". Who were later proven to not have IF geneseed.

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But it is mentioned that the Imperial Fists took in lost legion

vagrant osprey Apr 22, 2021, 3:08 AM

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They are pre-4th founding, not 2nd.

open marsh Apr 22, 2021, 3:08 AM

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They are 2nd founding. Which...shocker....is pre-4th founding

vagrant osprey Apr 22, 2021, 3:08 AM

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No, they believed themselves to be 2nd founding.

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But their actual founding is unknown, as their own records only dated back to the 4th founding.

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And yeah, all the primarchs were innocent and pure before they were scattered. The words of Word Bearers there are meaningless.

crisp heath Apr 22, 2021, 3:10 AM

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What about all the stuff in Prospero Burns?

vagrant osprey Apr 22, 2021, 3:11 AM

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I don't recall mentions of the lost legions in Prospero Burns

crisp heath Apr 22, 2021, 3:11 AM

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OH WAIT NO

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I'm thinking of First Heretic

placid timber Apr 22, 2021, 3:11 AM

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vagrant osprey They are there so that people can create 1 loyalist primarch and legion and 1 tr...

I pointed this out earlier lol

crisp heath Apr 22, 2021, 3:12 AM

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When Lorgar is like "Is he gonna send russ on me like he did to the other ones?"

vagrant osprey Apr 22, 2021, 3:12 AM

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placid timber I pointed this out earlier lol

Yeah, and people keep doing it and insisting that it's true.

open marsh Apr 22, 2021, 3:13 AM

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vagrant osprey No, they *believed themselves* to be 2nd founding.

Its not said that it was just a "belief"

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Its just said They were 2nd founding

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 Crimson Fists. Black Templars… Soul Drinkers.```

vagrant osprey Apr 22, 2021, 3:13 AM

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...

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You DO realize that THOSE Soul Drinkers actually WERE Imperial Fists, right?

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The Soul Drinkers were discontinuous at several points.

open marsh Apr 22, 2021, 3:15 AM

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They were only shown extinct, and then refounded in the Ultima Founding

vagrant osprey Apr 22, 2021, 3:15 AM

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crisp heath When Lorgar is like "Is he gonna send russ on me like he did to the other ones?"

Oh, yeah, that's basically the only confirmed things about the lost primarchs. Emps ordered their deaths, and that they be expunged from all records. It's not confirmed if they were actually killed or not.

open marsh Apr 22, 2021, 3:16 AM

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crisp heath What about all the stuff in Prospero Burns?

The mention of Prospero Burns was later shown to be Russ referencing the "Night of the Wolf". When the Space Wolves were sent to bring the World Eaters to heel

crisp heath Apr 22, 2021, 3:16 AM

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😮

open marsh Apr 22, 2021, 3:17 AM

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I like my lost legion lore. But when I looked into that, it was shown to be unrelated

open marsh Apr 22, 2021, 3:20 AM

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crisp heath When Lorgar is like "Is he gonna send russ on me like he did to the other ones?"

When did he say that

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Im looking through my copy of First Heretic

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This is the mention of Russ in context to the lost legions

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 ‘I believe so. Don’t ask what sides were taken by whom, for I do not know where most of them stood. Russ was with you, as was Horus. In fact, it was the first time the Wolf King and I have agreed on anything of import.’
 ‘Leman Russ spoke in my favour?’ Lorgar laughed. ‘Truly, we live in an age of marvels.’
 Magnus didn’t share the amusement. His lone eye was a deep, arctic blue as it fixed upon Lorgar. ‘He did. The Space Wolves are a spiritual Legion, in their own stunted and blind way. Fenris is an unmerciful cradle, and it breeds such things in them. Russ knows that, though he lacks the intelligence to give it voice. Instead, he swore that he’d already lost two brothers, and had no desire to lose a third.’
 ‘Two already lost.’ Lorgar looked back to the city. ‘I still recall how they—’
 ‘Enough,’ warned Magnus. ‘Honour the oath you took that day.’```

novel fulcrum Apr 22, 2021, 9:16 AM

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i'm trying to recall some info that may as well be ancient and lost to me, but i know i had it at one point, i just can't seem to find it again
would anyone know the name of the navigator house that's known for having had one of its ancestors attempting to chart a course through the warp to another galaxy? i could have sworn this was a thing, i recall even theorycrafting an edgy space marine chapter around the fact that they existed, but i'm starting to doubt my memory on this one

open marsh Apr 22, 2021, 9:21 AM

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That sounds vaguely familiar as well

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I know some Rogue Traders tried to sail out into the space between galaxies. So maybe a link there

novel fulcrum Apr 22, 2021, 9:23 AM

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see, that's the thing: i could have swore that i found them in the rogue trader books beck when i was planning on playing a navigator in a game, but now that i'm doing the same a second time, i'm looking through the core book and the navigator splatbook, and it's all coming up empty

open marsh Apr 22, 2021, 9:25 AM

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I have those books. Ill give them a look through

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Got it

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novel fulcrum Apr 22, 2021, 9:35 AM

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so it WAS mercator

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i had a hunch, but i must've missed that bit when i saw the start of that section was the same as what was on the wikis

open marsh Apr 22, 2021, 9:36 AM

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Its in Rogue Trader: The Navis Primer, pg 18

novel fulcrum Apr 22, 2021, 9:36 AM

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made me think there was nothing new to find there, much appreciated for the catch

open marsh Apr 22, 2021, 9:36 AM

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(look at what we can accomplish when we work together)

novel fulcrum Apr 22, 2021, 9:37 AM

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more like what you can accomplish on my behalf, but the sentiment is appreciated for sure

open marsh Apr 22, 2021, 9:37 AM

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lol

novel fulcrum Apr 22, 2021, 9:38 AM

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i kept going back to 'cadmus' but i knew that was a knight house, so i just kinda got lost wholesale, i think

vagrant osprey Apr 22, 2021, 2:41 PM

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Funny thing? It's impossible to leave the galaxy via the warp.

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I'm not talking about the horrors around the ghost stars.

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It's that as near as anybody can tell the warp doesn't actually go outside of the galaxy

vast frigate Apr 22, 2021, 2:45 PM

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Yeah ive read on that, the warp as we understand only encompasses the sol galaxy

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Some rogue traders used the calm tides of the warp to jump to the edge and venture into interstellar space however

open marsh Apr 22, 2021, 2:46 PM

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And never came back

vast frigate Apr 22, 2021, 2:46 PM

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Well... Yeah

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Interstellar space is enormous beyond reasoning for travel

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The necrons are hinted at having spread further but i can't remember where that was said

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Or it could be that they were trying to before they created fucking pocket dimensions

vagrant osprey Apr 22, 2021, 2:48 PM

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The Necrons used to have proper FTL, but that was retconned as being technology they lost when they suffered absolutely no setbacks or loss of technology as a result of each having perfect backups of the sum total of their technology.

vast frigate Apr 22, 2021, 2:49 PM

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We do know they can still use dullman gates

vagrant osprey Apr 22, 2021, 2:49 PM

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Now they have rare space fold drives which they can't make because they never forgot how to make them.

vast frigate Apr 22, 2021, 2:49 PM

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Also

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Szarek apparently has all necron data in his control ship

vagrant osprey Apr 22, 2021, 2:51 PM

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They used to all have that.

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Oh, also: You can only enter or leave the warp inside a system's gravity well. Attempting to do so in the deep void will not work.

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However, we do not know if all system gravity wells support warp translation, as we only know about systems which are warp-accessible.

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The Imperium settled "every rock it came across" during the great crusade, resulting in it having "a million worlds"

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There are around 100 billion systems in the milky way. Humanity claims to have 1/100,000th of all systems in the galaxy, and that's believed to be most of warp-accessible space.

ashen zenith Apr 22, 2021, 3:36 PM

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if genestealers want to steal genes why do they go to spacehulks where there are fewer organisms?

shell pebble Apr 22, 2021, 3:37 PM

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I think it's so they can just wait for passing ships to infest?

ashen zenith Apr 22, 2021, 3:39 PM

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isnt a massive radioactive drifting piece of trash that goes in and out of the warp unpredictably worse at that than just sitting inside of a dead ship in a populated part of the galaxy

shell pebble Apr 22, 2021, 3:41 PM

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Yeah but I'm assuming since they got no other real way of hitchhiking onto a ship

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That may not be a bad way of travelling for a little while

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Plus Imperium has interest in those hulks

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So they are eventually going to get a ride

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Aside from that, no real idea

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They just like vibing in someone's trash

vagrant osprey Apr 22, 2021, 3:56 PM

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It's actually a plothole stemming from GW wanting to make genestealers nids.

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Making them intelligent agents of an alien empire makes the "stay in space hulks" behavior utterly absurd.

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But when they were an independent Xenomorph expy it made total sense for them to be a thing that just kinda drifted around and infested things that came by.

storm jungle Apr 22, 2021, 4:04 PM

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vagrant osprey Making them intelligent agents of an alien empire makes the "stay in space hulks...

It's not absurd though, its one of the more smooth transitions when it came to jeanstealers being turned into nids.

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The imperium from the dawn of time as a faction almost ALWAYS explores spacehulks, and its not like the Stealers will die from old age any time soon, they just got time and they can wait forever if need be.

barren tapir Apr 22, 2021, 4:05 PM

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Not always, sometime they are deemed too much dangerous and destroyed

storm jungle Apr 22, 2021, 4:06 PM

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Yeah but even thats rare

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since you know, Hulks are pretty big

barren tapir Apr 22, 2021, 4:06 PM

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But 3 out of 4 they will explore them yes

storm jungle Apr 22, 2021, 4:06 PM

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yep

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So yeah its not that weird

barren tapir Apr 22, 2021, 4:06 PM

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And just to be clear, it isn't only SM that explore them

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The guard do that too

storm jungle Apr 22, 2021, 4:07 PM

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Yeah the only time marines get involved is if they got some actual business with something the hulk is carrying.

vagrant osprey Apr 22, 2021, 4:16 PM

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Genestealers don't die from old age, but they can die from starvation.

ashen zenith Apr 22, 2021, 4:17 PM

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plot holes and space hulks go hand in hand together

vagrant osprey Apr 22, 2021, 4:18 PM

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The optimal strategy for genestealers is to send last-gen hybrids out on ships to infiltrate planets and start new infestations that way. Attempting to have full-blood genestealers infiltrate is much too risky.

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Lurking in spacehulks is a poor strategy because it can be countered by basically any kind of quarantine protocol.

storm jungle Apr 22, 2021, 4:22 PM

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Again. It's not a plothole lol.

storm jungle Apr 22, 2021, 4:23 PM

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vagrant osprey Lurking in spacehulks is a poor strategy because it can be countered by basicall...

And again no

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quarantines are even brought up a lot in few fluff materials and they dont really matter when again its a giant goddamn hulk.

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Compared to a faction like the Tau the Imperium's carelessness when it comes to scans/checkups for infection is what causes so many genestealers to hitch a ride from hulks to actual planets to begin with.

open marsh Apr 22, 2021, 4:29 PM

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ashen zenith isnt a massive radioactive drifting piece of trash that goes in and out of the w...

The ships that make up a space hulk have supply stocks onboard from their former crew. Often have mini-ecosystems in them due to their scale. And due to all the ships smashed together giving off a variety of different signals. Its harder for nearby worlds to detect any nid onboard before they are launching small sneakibeaki landing crafts to worlds that the hulk passes by

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Not to mention that the ships tends to have many of their systems still running, allowing for a surprisingly hospitable and comfortable enviroment as well as functional void shields, weapon systems, geller fields, and whatever archeotech maybe aboard

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If you are a small, weak, piddly genestealer group. A space hulk is a great place to grow your numbers in private. Without risk of outside forces wiping you out before you become legion

eternal ledge Apr 22, 2021, 5:26 PM

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I always thought of it as infiltrated Patriarcs were on a ship that got swept up in the warp and end up in the space hulk and act on instinct to infect the surviving crew and the ecosystem

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And sometimes said hulk will pop out of the warp and drop onto or chunks onto a planet

open marsh Apr 22, 2021, 5:29 PM

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eternal ledge I always thought of it as infiltrated Patriarcs were on a ship that got swept up...

Thats part of it

vagrant osprey Apr 22, 2021, 6:04 PM

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The problem is that while pure strain genestealers don't age, hybrids DO.

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So if they don't maintain a permanent supply of pure humans, they will eventually find themselves completely unable to reproduce.

open marsh Apr 22, 2021, 6:06 PM

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vagrant osprey So if they don't maintain a permanent supply of pure humans, they will eventuall...

You do know that its usually purestrain genestealers on space hulks, yes?

vagrant osprey Apr 22, 2021, 6:06 PM

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The ones who can't reproduce on their own? Yes.

open marsh Apr 22, 2021, 6:08 PM

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What are you even arguing

vagrant osprey Apr 22, 2021, 6:11 PM

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That genestealers being endemic to basically every spacehulk made plenty of sense until they decided to make them nids, at which point it stopped being reasonable behavior.

eternal ledge Apr 22, 2021, 6:12 PM

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I'm pretty sure the 3rd generation hybrids will have more than one kid (pure strain)

vagrant osprey Apr 22, 2021, 6:14 PM

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They can have more than one kid, sure, but they're still mortal.

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And hulks can spend centuries in the warp before winding up back in the materium.

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Generally with either no Geller fields, or with Geller fields that turn on and off randomly.

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So, you know, random demons just popping into existence.

eternal ledge Apr 22, 2021, 6:20 PM

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Time scale in the warp is different than real space. What would be a few decades for them could be centuries to millenial out of the warp

vagrant osprey Apr 22, 2021, 6:21 PM

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I meant subjective centuries.

eternal ledge Apr 22, 2021, 6:26 PM

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So you're arguing realistic genealogy in a setting where you have to literally travel through Hell to get from one planet to another

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I think there is plenty of room for suspension of disbelief

open marsh Apr 22, 2021, 6:29 PM

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vagrant osprey That genestealers being endemic to basically every spacehulk made plenty of sens...

Nah its makes sense. As it allows the Genestealers a relatively safe way to spread across the galaxy

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far more rapidly than the hive fleet can manage

storm jungle Apr 22, 2021, 6:30 PM

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Also the only reason they were on spacehulks to begin with is because GW just wanted to parody Alien

open marsh Apr 22, 2021, 6:30 PM

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^

storm jungle Apr 22, 2021, 6:30 PM

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so its better that they just made them nids instead of some random ripoff alien race like in the beginning

open marsh Apr 22, 2021, 6:30 PM

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Some people forget that half the shit 40k does is a reference to other shit

storm jungle Apr 22, 2021, 6:31 PM

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Yeah genestealers literally had chestbursters and stuff before their retcon

open marsh Apr 22, 2021, 6:31 PM

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Like that one guy yesterday who got super salty that a Catachan managed to avoid a Tau auspex scan, by covering himself in mud. That was a reference to Predator

vagrant osprey Apr 22, 2021, 6:32 PM

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open marsh far more rapidly than the hive fleet can manage

Space hulks are a garbage way to do that, though. Just slip last-gen hybrids into a planet's imperial guard tithe, or into the crew of a rogue trader.

open marsh Apr 22, 2021, 6:32 PM

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vagrant osprey Space hulks are a garbage way to do that, though. Just slip last-gen hybrids int...

genetic testing.

vagrant osprey Apr 22, 2021, 6:33 PM

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If people are doing genetic testing then space hulks are an EVEN WORSE option, because everybody who comes BACK from the hulk would be tested.

open marsh Apr 22, 2021, 6:33 PM

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Space Hulks are actually a very good way to do it. So long as you dont care where you end up/which planet you invade

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Its why Ghaz Ghull chose a Space Hulk as his method of travel when launching his first WAAAGGGHHHH

vagrant osprey Apr 22, 2021, 6:34 PM

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... He chose a space hulk because he wanted to fight demons in between fighting other things, though.

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Space hulks usually have 'orbits' that they drift in. They visit the same places over and over.

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Less like a ship adrift at sea, and more like the worst public transit ever

eternal ledge Apr 22, 2021, 6:38 PM

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Ding dong
" 'Ruiner of Worlds' now entering ... Armageddon system"

storm jungle Apr 22, 2021, 6:38 PM

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In his booming voice, Ghazghkull assured the quavering greenskins that this was a sign from Gork and Mork. It was telling them that it was time to leave Urk behind, that it was time for the galaxy to feel the might of the growing WAAAGH!.

As the tides of the Warp roiled and twisted, they had also deposited an enormous Space Hulk into realspace, vomiting forth the conglomerate voidcraft in the Zornian System. The Hulk now drifted in Urk's orbit, blocking out the light from the flickering sun.

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Im pretty sure it was just because he found the hulk as the best method of transportation to take all his boyz with him to anywhere the warp puked them out to

vagrant osprey Apr 22, 2021, 6:39 PM

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That's fair.

storm jungle Apr 22, 2021, 6:39 PM

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the demons were really just a bonus fighting round in-between wherever they went

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Alas, as is so often the case, the Space Hulk was not unoccupied. As soon as the first wave of Orks landed they were attacked by daemonic entities. Burna Boyz, cutting their way through bulkheads, had to suddenly shift from slicing metal to defending themselves against a tide of Daemons.

vagrant osprey Apr 22, 2021, 6:39 PM

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alas

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Sometimes GW forgets what its own characters are like.

open marsh Apr 22, 2021, 6:40 PM

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vagrant osprey ... He chose a space hulk because he wanted to fight demons in between fighting ...

That was Tuska Daemon Killa

eternal ledge Apr 22, 2021, 6:40 PM

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Welcome to the world of a game with an ever-evolving narrative

vagrant osprey Apr 22, 2021, 6:40 PM

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Yeah, I got them confused for a moment.

open marsh Apr 22, 2021, 6:40 PM

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https://tenor.com/view/pet-dog-adorable-cute-gif-14614095

Tenor

vagrant osprey Apr 22, 2021, 6:42 PM

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Anubis: It's also the fact that "Everything is canon, but not necessarily true"

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Except for Draco, which is explicitly not canon.

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And also explicit.

eternal ledge Apr 22, 2021, 6:42 PM

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Lol

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I remember grabbing the omnibus for that in high-school

vagrant osprey Apr 22, 2021, 6:43 PM

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(And, like, Illiyan Nastase. RIP)

eternal ledge Apr 22, 2021, 6:43 PM

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And thought while reading it. "Man this is weird"

vagrant osprey Apr 22, 2021, 6:44 PM

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Protip: If your Callidus can only morph into genestealers, it's because they're a genestealer.

open marsh Apr 22, 2021, 6:45 PM

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vagrant osprey Protip: If your Callidus can only morph into genestealers, it's because they're ...

https://tenor.com/view/kronk-point-debate-argument-angel-gif-17274775

Tenor

eternal ledge Apr 22, 2021, 6:45 PM

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Looking back at The Inquisitor Trilogy... the TTS Podcast episode about it is soooooo true

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I gave my cousin who wants to get into the hobby some of my old books I specifically kept that one

open marsh Apr 22, 2021, 6:47 PM

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The one from the 90s or the Eisenhorn/Ravenor/Bequin series?

crisp heath Apr 22, 2021, 6:47 PM

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remember that one night lords short where the callidus transforms into a chair

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i remember saying outloud in the bagel shop "What the fuck" when i was listening to that

eternal ledge Apr 22, 2021, 6:48 PM

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The Draco trilogy

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I got the Ravenor omnibus but I realized really quick that I was essentially reading part two of a series

open marsh Apr 22, 2021, 6:49 PM

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Im so glad that shit got decanonized

eternal ledge Apr 22, 2021, 6:50 PM

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That was so 80s / 90s sci-fi weird shit

open marsh Apr 22, 2021, 6:52 PM

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1st edition

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it was very weird

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Its on the otherside of the "canon" wall. Nothing in 1st edition is canon unless brought back in a newer publication

storm jungle Apr 22, 2021, 6:53 PM

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Like that half-eldar

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its just his name but its still a MASSIVE wink

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https://tenor.com/view/agness-wandavison-wink-eye-gif-20639449

Tenor

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like this level of massive

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even if anything is brought back it'd be heavily edited lol

open marsh Apr 22, 2021, 6:54 PM

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Well there was a half-xenos Astartes

eternal ledge Apr 22, 2021, 6:55 PM

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And squats

open marsh Apr 22, 2021, 6:55 PM

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Calas Typhon

eternal ledge Apr 22, 2021, 6:55 PM

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Khorn orks, Chaos genestealers

open marsh Apr 22, 2021, 6:56 PM

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No I mean in actual 40k

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Calas Typhon (aka Typhus) is half-xenos

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His father was one of the xenos overlords of Barbarus

potent swift Apr 22, 2021, 7:05 PM

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Never forget the brave Inquisitor Obiwan Sherlock Clousseau

storm jungle Apr 22, 2021, 7:09 PM

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As medic said

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if that guy is brought back its like 3 lawsuits waiting to happen

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~~worth it~~

eternal ledge Apr 22, 2021, 7:12 PM

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crisp heath Apr 22, 2021, 7:13 PM

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yooooo

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rogue trader fucking rocks

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so hard

eternal ledge Apr 22, 2021, 7:14 PM

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Have you guys ever watched Black Pants Legion and see his extra videos where he, a Mechwarrior voice actor, and a bunch of others riff on Battletech art from the early editions?

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https://youtu.be/uVAqhPBUXlY

YouTube

BlackPantsLegion

TEX TALKS 1980s Battletech ART [TEX/MIKE/GEORGE LEDOUX]

ALSO OTHER Music: EPIDEMIC SOUND ATTRIBUTION
Production Music courtesy of Epidemic Sound http://www.epidemicsound.com

THE COURTESY FLUSH
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCvonPwovlFQ-mMrRFeNmRag

GEORGE LEDOUX! https://www.georgeledoux.com/

THE COURTESY FLUSH
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCvonPwo...

▶ Play video

vagrant osprey Apr 22, 2021, 7:30 PM

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Fantastic voice there. He could probably be an excellent substitute for Jon St John

eternal ledge Apr 22, 2021, 7:31 PM

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His Battletech lore videos are great

barren tapir Apr 22, 2021, 7:55 PM

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eternal ledge Khorn orks, Chaos genestealers

Chaos genestealer is still canon though... Well, in only one occurrence...At least for 7 edition codex genestealer cult...

atomic pelican Apr 22, 2021, 7:56 PM

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Ye they're still mentioned in the newest codex

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If ur talking about the ones who get nurgle converted in the warp

barren tapir Apr 22, 2021, 7:56 PM

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Yes, i was referring to them

crisp heath Apr 23, 2021, 4:38 PM

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"None of us like Curze, and he appears to despise us all."

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Alpharius is the nicest dude ever wtf

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YO WHAT

eternal ledge Apr 23, 2021, 4:56 PM

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H'rud

crisp heath Apr 23, 2021, 4:56 PM

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nay

rotund siren Apr 23, 2021, 4:56 PM

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Wormy Lads

crisp heath Apr 23, 2021, 4:56 PM

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Tis the SLAUGTH

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THEY EAT PEOPLE

rotund siren Apr 23, 2021, 4:56 PM

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yea

eternal ledge Apr 23, 2021, 4:56 PM

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Oh right

rotund siren Apr 23, 2021, 4:56 PM

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also they might be superbeings from an alien empire

eternal ledge Apr 23, 2021, 4:56 PM

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What filthy xenos doesn't

rotund siren Apr 23, 2021, 4:56 PM

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a fair few, actually

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there are lots of xenos

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that are minor and not talked about

open marsh Apr 23, 2021, 5:15 PM

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rotund siren also they might be superbeings from an alien empire

Well they had/have an empire themselves. And they may/may not have been puppeting the Rangdan Empire

rotund siren Apr 23, 2021, 5:23 PM

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So, superbeing from an alien empire it is

open marsh Apr 23, 2021, 5:25 PM

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rotund siren So, superbeing from an alien empire it is

They are just massive of mind-controlling slugs

rotund siren Apr 23, 2021, 5:28 PM

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You saying that doesn’t qualify them for superbeing status?

open marsh Apr 23, 2021, 5:28 PM

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As super as they would get wrecked by a flamer

rotund siren Apr 23, 2021, 5:30 PM

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Sure

open marsh Apr 23, 2021, 5:31 PM

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Its just another 40k xenos.

crisp heath Apr 23, 2021, 5:54 PM

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alpharius really hates em

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they almost killt him

open marsh Apr 23, 2021, 5:59 PM

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When did Alpharius fight the Slaught?

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I know the Alpha Legion were in the background of the Randgan Xenocides, but Alpharius wasnt with them yet (yes I know it says he was in ||his primarch book. but I dont trust anything written in that book||)

crisp heath Apr 23, 2021, 6:01 PM

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In da primarch book

open marsh Apr 23, 2021, 6:03 PM

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of couse

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Yeah I dont trust anything in that book

primal tide Apr 23, 2021, 6:03 PM

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Well I don't trust anything not in that book
~~Hydra Dominatus~~

open marsh Apr 23, 2021, 6:04 PM

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Since
A. It directly conflicts with atleast 5 other books which are presented in a more objective manner.

B. It starts with "I am Alpharius. This is a lie." and ends with "I am Alpharius. This was a lie."

primal tide Apr 23, 2021, 6:04 PM

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~~It's a lie because he's telling what Omegon was up to but saying it was him~~

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So saying it's a lie is also a lie

open marsh Apr 23, 2021, 6:05 PM

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primal tide ~~It's a lie because he's telling what Omegon was up to but saying it was him~~

~~except it still has several conflicts. Like with Omegon's memories seen in Serpent Beneath~~

primal tide Apr 23, 2021, 6:07 PM

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Fake ~~news~~ memories

crisp heath Apr 23, 2021, 6:07 PM

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slaugth cool doe!

open marsh Apr 23, 2021, 6:26 PM

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primal tide Fake ~~news~~ memories

~~It was genetic memory, seen from Omegon's blood. Which is more likely? That he somehow recoded his DNA (which has never seen to be a thing in 40k)....or, in his primarch book, he lied?~~

primal tide Apr 23, 2021, 7:20 PM

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The twins are so deceitful even their blood tells lies

open marsh Apr 23, 2021, 7:24 PM

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and so does their primarch book

gusty fulcrum Apr 23, 2021, 8:31 PM

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tldr they lie alot

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some might even say its kinda their thing

open marsh Apr 23, 2021, 8:57 PM

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yup

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Which makes me very confused when people take the info in the book at face value

primal tide Apr 23, 2021, 9:39 PM

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Or any book about them

open marsh Apr 23, 2021, 9:47 PM

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primal tide Or any book about them

This one more than the others because its told from a first person perspective. Its not an 3rd person narrator. Its Alparhius/Omegon speaking

primal tide Apr 23, 2021, 10:02 PM

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The narrators for the other books are all AL assets too

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Otherwise they wouldn't be able to finish their stories without mysteriously disappearing

rose thorn Apr 24, 2021, 6:29 AM

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what do orks think of admech?

open marsh Apr 24, 2021, 6:41 AM

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They are a thing that exists

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Can you be more specific

ashen zenith Apr 24, 2021, 7:08 AM

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d-do orks think the admech are cute 😳

limpid hedge Apr 24, 2021, 7:10 AM

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?

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Since I speak for the great green gods and all of Ork kind in general I think I can say that Orks do not think admech are cute

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They make for some good scrap once you peel away the fleshy bits but they aren’t overly cute

storm jungle Apr 24, 2021, 9:45 AM

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rose thorn what do orks think of admech?

They mostly think of them as metal humies that gather up scrap but never put them to good use

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so its a case of being the schoolyard bully and going "Oi, I'm gonna be takin' that now"

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“‘Dat planet,’ Mogrot Redtoof said, looking out of a viewport, ‘is made of metal.’

Ufthak nodded sagely. Back before they’d boarded the humie ship, he and Mogrot had been rivals–two warriors jockeying for position under the command of Badgit Snazzhammer.

Thanks to a series of events involving a large robot, several fatalities and a head transplant courtesy of Dok Drozfang, Ufthak’s undamaged head had ended up on the decapitated Snazzhammer’s undamaged and significantly larger body.

After a brief meeting of the minds via a headbutt, Mogrot had settled back into a role as Ufthak’s right-hand ork. That didn’t mean that Ufthak trusted him, of course, but at least he was fairly certain Mogrot wouldn’t try to shank him unless he was already wounded.

‘Looks like a humie mekboy place,’ Ufthak said. ‘Humie mekboy ship, coming from a humie mekboy planet. Makes sense to me.’

‘Why do dey do dat, anyway?’ Mogrot asked. ‘Make dere planets all shiny so ya know dey’ve got flashy stuff ya might want, and den when ya go to get it, dey get all annoyed an’ try to kill ya?’

‘Dat’s da problem wiv humies,’ Ufthak opined knowingly. ‘Dey ain’t logickal.’”

cerulean wagon Apr 24, 2021, 9:57 AM

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basically the usual "haha its funny cuz orkz"

rotund siren Apr 24, 2021, 1:19 PM

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wha

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is this one head, one body? and yet 2 minds? Orks are fucky wucky, huh

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also, what would that even look like, a small head stapled onto, presumably, the stump of a big body?

open marsh Apr 24, 2021, 1:23 PM

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rotund siren is this one head, one body? and yet 2 minds? Orks are fucky wucky, huh

No. Its two Orkz. Just 1 got the Ghazgul treatment. Where he got his head chopped off, but a quick thinking Dok stapled it onto the body of a bigga Ork

plucky moth Apr 24, 2021, 1:23 PM

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That’s big finkin’

rotund siren Apr 24, 2021, 1:24 PM

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OHHHH

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I GET IT

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Snazzhammer was their boss, but he got his head chopped off, and Ufthak's head was put on top

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I get it now

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sorry, mixed up the names

barren tapir Apr 24, 2021, 1:24 PM

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So now we have an ork with an undersidez head compared to its body??
It sound like the shoulder syndrome some SM had

rotund siren Apr 24, 2021, 1:25 PM

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lol

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It would be goofy looking

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which is very orky

open marsh Apr 24, 2021, 1:29 PM

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barren tapir So now we have an ork with an undersidez head compared to its body?? It sound l...

More than 1. Ghazghul is like that now too

coarse mirage Apr 24, 2021, 2:06 PM

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rose thorn what do orks think of admech?

They're good looting

open marsh Apr 24, 2021, 2:11 PM

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Orkz are confused by Admech

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They wonder why the Admech make their planet's all flashy, showing off that they have the best loot, and then the Admech get mad when Orkz show up for a fight

crisp heath Apr 24, 2021, 2:48 PM

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is there a difference between an astropath and a navigator

plucky moth Apr 24, 2021, 2:49 PM

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A syllable

barren tapir Apr 24, 2021, 3:53 PM

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crisp heath is there a difference between an astropath and a navigator

Yes, a navigator is one that gaze upon the immaterium with its third eye and guide a ship trough it
An astropath is a guy who send and receive psychic messages trough the warp

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It is reasonable to think that the astropath is something that the imperium created, while navigators are stated to be created during the Age of Tech, something that i find dumb and i am waiting for a retcon

gaunt vector Apr 24, 2021, 4:21 PM

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barren tapir It is reasonable to think that the astropath is something that the imperium crea...

why is that dumb?

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also: navigators have a specific mutation that was deliberatly enhanced/ introduced at some point in the DAOT

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astropaths are psykers who are trained to do a specific job

barren tapir Apr 24, 2021, 4:30 PM

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gaunt vector why is that dumb?

Because i think that in the great Age of Tech, when there is no astronomican, the creation of a mutant which can use a eye to see into the immaterium make no sense... While their ability is psychic they aren't psykers and i would like to know from where the humans in the Age of Tech got knowledge of psychic stuff since psykers weren't really common...
Oh, yeah, and then what about the gene diffusion, if they breed with a normal human the gene get lost so, where they were during the age of strife on terra?

gaunt vector Apr 24, 2021, 4:31 PM

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barren tapir Because i think that in the great Age of Tech, when there is no astronomican, th...

all good points

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I hadn't thought of those

barren tapir Apr 24, 2021, 4:31 PM

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And if they have been sheltered by a warlord, why? Since they don't give you any support in the fight for terra?

gaunt vector Apr 24, 2021, 4:31 PM

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maybe they were shetered by the big E?

barren tapir Apr 24, 2021, 4:32 PM

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gaunt vector maybe they were shetered by the big E?

He wasn't active from the start, and he wasn't omnipotent at the start of his conquest too

gaunt vector Apr 24, 2021, 4:32 PM

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also why would they only be on Terra? its not like all of the navigators who would have been out there at the moment Slaanesh was born would have been able to neatly congregate on 1 planet

gaunt vector Apr 24, 2021, 4:33 PM

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barren tapir He wasn't active from the start, and he wasn't omnipotent at the start of his co...

I know that but what if he just put them all in some convenient caves or something?

barren tapir Apr 24, 2021, 4:33 PM

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Although it could said that they reached terra from the cold space and they were nomadic families that lived in starships, well, then how they survived the crazy warp storms that rocked the galaxy?

gaunt vector Apr 24, 2021, 4:33 PM

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barren tapir Although it could said that they reached terra from the cold space and they were...

that would be bs

barren tapir Apr 24, 2021, 4:33 PM

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gaunt vector I know that but what if he just put them all in some convenient caves or somethi...

He should have foreseen the birth of slaneesh and managed to convince those mutants to take shelter somewhere on terra, hoping that no other warlord would discover them

gaunt vector Apr 24, 2021, 4:34 PM

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barren tapir He should have foreseen the birth of slaneesh and managed to convince those muta...

that could make sense

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by 40k standards

barren tapir Apr 24, 2021, 4:35 PM

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I was going to say that it make no sense, but you are right, it could make sense by WH40K standards whacky lore about those times

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And it would be something that avail the theory of big e being an ass, since he knew slaneesh would have caused quite a rough gender reveal party and said nothing to anyone... Except the navigators

vagrant osprey Apr 24, 2021, 4:37 PM

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Ok, look: Following Old Night Big E wasn't on Terra until after the warpstorms around it cleared up.

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He was probably nursing a wicked hangover after the bender where he helped fuck Slaanesh into existence in the middle of the eye of terror, and took something like 5,000 years to hitchhike home.

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As far as navigators surviving warpstorms go? The warp can't touch deep void. If they were in deep space outside of a system's area of influence then they could ride out the warpstorms simply by keeping their geller fields on.

barren tapir Apr 24, 2021, 4:43 PM

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Oh, and btw, if the navigators were made during the Age of Tech, then why they aren't really widespread in the galaxy? I mean, they wouldn't have been produced on terra only, especially since they should have been created in m22, 1 millenium before the start of age of strife and before the cybernetic revolt too

vagrant osprey Apr 24, 2021, 4:44 PM

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Yeah, it doesn't really make much sense

storm jungle Apr 24, 2021, 5:09 PM

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vagrant osprey He was probably nursing a wicked hangover after the bender where he helped fuck ...

Helping Slaanesh be birthed into existence?

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Big E is half-elf?

vagrant osprey Apr 24, 2021, 5:10 PM

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Nah

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But it's canon that he had a LOT of kids over the years, so the 15,000 years he was unaccounted for were most likely spent living it up.

vast frigate Apr 24, 2021, 5:11 PM

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The sensei

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We know very little about them

vagrant osprey Apr 24, 2021, 5:11 PM

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Yep

storm jungle Apr 24, 2021, 5:17 PM

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vagrant osprey But it's canon that he had a LOT of kids over the years, so the 15,000 years he ...

That would literally barely effect Slaanesh's birth

vagrant osprey Apr 24, 2021, 5:17 PM

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I am aware.

storm jungle Apr 24, 2021, 5:17 PM

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Eldar were beating him in that game lol

vagrant osprey Apr 24, 2021, 5:17 PM

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Yes.

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But Emps is extremely self-absorbed, and saw the basic nature of the Eldar as something for humanity to aspire to.

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He wanted humans to all be natural psykers and bend the warp to their will, like the Eldar

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And he wanted to make the webway his own.

cerulean wagon Apr 24, 2021, 5:29 PM

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barren tapir He wasn't active from the start, and he wasn't omnipotent at the start of his co...

thats been rewritten as of stuff like the last church

Its dumb and makes no sense and i hate it but now he was always omnipotent

humble spoke Apr 24, 2021, 5:58 PM

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Hey everyone!

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What's the topic of the week for lore?

crisp heath Apr 24, 2021, 6:12 PM

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todays topic: space marine poops

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how often do they poop

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how big is their poops

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how long can they hold their poops

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do they get hemorrhoids

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Discuss now

storm jungle Apr 24, 2021, 6:29 PM

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no

crisp heath Apr 24, 2021, 6:29 PM

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ok sorry

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https://tenor.com/view/apologize-i-am-sorry-apology-gif-8298599

Tenor

violet eagle Apr 24, 2021, 7:08 PM

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crisp heath todays topic: space marine poops

yes
once every 3 days
it comes out as mostly water so say a litre
probably a week or so
no

marines poop inside armour and it is recycled

crisp heath Apr 24, 2021, 7:09 PM

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violet eagle yes once every 3 days it comes out as mostly water so say a litre probably a wee...

Thank you alfie. I love you

grim sequoia Apr 24, 2021, 7:26 PM

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coarse mirage Apr 24, 2021, 7:52 PM

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Weren't a bunch of sensei killed recently?

open marsh Apr 24, 2021, 7:55 PM

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I don't think they are a thing in 40k. Since that came from the Inquistior novel. Which is based in like 1e

primal tide Apr 24, 2021, 9:53 PM

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Yeah sensei is old lore iirc

gaunt vector Apr 24, 2021, 10:38 PM

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@vivid verge how's the noctis labyrinth?

vivid verge Apr 24, 2021, 10:38 PM

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The angles they pain my eyes

gaunt vector Apr 24, 2021, 10:40 PM

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oh

open marsh Apr 24, 2021, 10:46 PM

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gaunt vector <@!317490209203814400> how's the noctis labyrinth?

generic eldritch location where somehow the geometry fucks with your perceptions

gaunt vector Apr 24, 2021, 10:47 PM

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yeah and also the dragon of mars right?

storm jungle Apr 24, 2021, 10:47 PM

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It's a real place on mars too lol

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Noctis_Labyrinthus

Noctis Labyrinthus

Noctis Labyrinthus (Latin for 'the labyrinth of night') is a region of Mars located in the Phoenicis Lacus quadrangle, between Valles Marineris and the Tharsis upland. The region is notable for its maze-like system of deep, steep-walled valleys. The valleys and canyons of this region formed by faulting and many show classic features of grabens, ...

gaunt vector Apr 24, 2021, 10:48 PM

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its even shaped like a dragon

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head on the right

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serpent body to the left

storm jungle Apr 24, 2021, 10:48 PM

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Damn it i cant unsee that now

gaunt vector Apr 24, 2021, 10:49 PM

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I only just saw it myself XD

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is that where GW got the idea?

storm jungle Apr 24, 2021, 10:50 PM

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Honestly it wouldnt surprise me

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lol

gaunt vector Apr 24, 2021, 10:51 PM

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its not a bad idea either

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even the "throat" looks like it has been covered in soot from blowing fire like a dragon

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in 40k it would be like planetary scar tissue wher the Emperor sealed the Void Dragon in there

storm jungle Apr 24, 2021, 10:53 PM

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I need that place explored sooner or later, its pretty wonky

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https://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Noctis_Labyrinth

Noctis Labyrinth

gaunt vector Apr 24, 2021, 10:54 PM

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well only a bold and or stupid heretek would

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and good luck finding one of those on Mars

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unless the HH serise goes back over it

cloud kindle Apr 24, 2021, 11:16 PM

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501c8fec59328e958850e820f3d960f4ba0b3231ee9bc97a224af98c57d037de_1.png

crisp heath Apr 24, 2021, 11:25 PM

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ima go scout it out bros

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dw

crisp heath Apr 25, 2021, 12:00 AM

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YOOO WAIT THEY RELEASED ANOTHER CIAPHAS AUDIOBOOK!?!?!

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Ngl, black library audiobooks is on a fucken roll

crisp heath Apr 25, 2021, 12:36 AM

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oh no

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I just realized I'm almost done reading all of the HH books I want to read

potent swift Apr 25, 2021, 12:39 AM

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There's always Gaunt's Ghost or Ciaphas Cain if you need more reading material

crisp heath Apr 25, 2021, 12:40 AM

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i have tons of 40k books to catch up on, but i guess HH is nearly done for me

storm jungle Apr 25, 2021, 12:54 AM

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crisp heath i have tons of 40k books to catch up on, but i guess HH is nearly done for me

Like which ones!

crisp heath Apr 25, 2021, 12:54 AM

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i might do every gaunts ghost book

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the carchardon books

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the og night lord book

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brutal kunnin

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mephiston books

cerulean wagon Apr 25, 2021, 12:55 AM

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ciaphas cain

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do iiiiit

crisp heath Apr 25, 2021, 12:55 AM

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the two cain books i havent read

storm jungle Apr 25, 2021, 12:55 AM

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By Totally Legal Ways of Purchase i hope

crisp heath Apr 25, 2021, 12:55 AM

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i buy my black library books actually >:)

storm jungle Apr 25, 2021, 12:55 AM

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bastard

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raging

crisp heath Apr 25, 2021, 12:56 AM

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with my audible subscription, the audiobooks are very underpriced

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and the ebooks on black library are fairly priced imo

storm jungle Apr 25, 2021, 12:56 AM

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Yeah jokes aside I have lots of legit BL books i bought

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its just that turkish liras are getting fucked

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so books are pretty expensive on my end

potent swift Apr 25, 2021, 12:56 AM

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Infinite and the Divine! And no, I will not stop shilling it anytime books come up

crisp heath Apr 25, 2021, 12:56 AM

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oh yeah u have a totally reasonable excuse

storm jungle Apr 25, 2021, 12:57 AM

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Tbh its that

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and also i realised how great PDFs are in general

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lol

crisp heath Apr 25, 2021, 12:57 AM

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yeah ebooks fucking rock dude

storm jungle Apr 25, 2021, 12:57 AM

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Yeeeep, also listen to Undead man

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İnfinite and Divine should be on your list, one of THE best xenos books in the last decade

crisp heath Apr 25, 2021, 1:00 AM

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aight aight

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i have no draw to necrons outside of oldcrons

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BUT

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I've said that about SO many factions before

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"I dont care about word bearers at all"

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then i read first heretic

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"i hate ultramarines"

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then i read know no fear

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"not really into world eaters" then betrayer

cloud kindle Apr 25, 2021, 1:23 AM

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word bearers are still crybabies though

coarse mirage Apr 25, 2021, 1:28 AM

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who might the Marines Malevolent be from?

violet eagle Apr 25, 2021, 1:34 AM

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considering love for artillery and treating guardsmen and civilians like thralls to be slaughtered id say very similar to Iron Warriors, Silver Skulls could be the purists who follow good guy strats, eventually though the uncaring and bitter nature has seeped from the gene seed producing the malevolent as an offshoot chapter.

Id buy it cause the idea of Loyalist Marines from Traitor legions being inducted to the Ultramarines just prior to first and second founding so Guiliman could split them into their own chapters separate from his Blue Bois too interesting a subject/theory.

open marsh Apr 25, 2021, 8:37 AM

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violet eagle considering love for artillery and treating guardsmen and civilians like thralls...

Not all traitor legion loyalist successors stem from the Ultramarines. To my knowledge, there really is only 1 that did that: the Silver Skulls. The rest were just traitor legion loyalist companies who managed, in one way or another, to convince the Imperium of their loyality. But then had their geneseed records redacted, just incase someone got narky and decided that just being genesons of traitors is cause enough to kill them

vast frigate Apr 25, 2021, 11:34 AM

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surely there is not even 1 radical faction in the imperium that would do that

prime kernel Apr 25, 2021, 3:52 PM

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so i heard konrad kurze is back ?

storm jungle Apr 25, 2021, 3:53 PM

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How! Hes dead!

prime kernel Apr 25, 2021, 4:07 PM

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cause of all the memes in 40k memes

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i wmated to check

plucky moth Apr 25, 2021, 4:07 PM

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Imagine being killed by dying lmao

open marsh Apr 25, 2021, 4:10 PM

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prime kernel so i heard konrad kurze is back ?

Not that I am aware. His likely avoided being pulled into the warp after his execution thanks to a spirit stone in his crown, but his body is still dead

prime kernel Apr 25, 2021, 4:11 PM

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fair enough

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Then again he really wanted to die

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so theirs that

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poor dude

vast frigate Apr 25, 2021, 4:26 PM

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probably just thinking at this point

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might very well be that some chaos marine has his spirit stone

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''Dont you fucking get closer, i got Conrad on speed dial you piece of shit ultramarine''

open marsh Apr 25, 2021, 4:31 PM

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Curze would kill any Chaos corrupted Night Lords tho

vast frigate Apr 25, 2021, 4:33 PM

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Yeah

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he really didnt like them

barren tapir Apr 25, 2021, 4:36 PM

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He didn't like them even when not chaos corrupted, i cannot imagine what he would do to those who fell to chaos and became uber super duper criminals

storm jungle Apr 25, 2021, 4:36 PM

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^

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Curze in general was just an edgelord

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Theres a reason he hated Corvus more than any of his siblings lol

vast frigate Apr 25, 2021, 4:36 PM

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I mean, he had good reasons to

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look at what his homeplanet was lol

storm jungle Apr 25, 2021, 4:37 PM

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He could have improved himself but never did lol

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so good riddance on getting decapitated

vast frigate Apr 25, 2021, 4:37 PM

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everyone being okay with planets like t hat existing and mister turbo judge dredd just going ''Yo... thats klnda fucked up tho.''
yeah but thats the way it is
''Okay let me go and enforce that then''

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He had all laws in his skull, just no moral compas to begin with

prime kernel Apr 25, 2021, 5:07 PM

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He was a dictonary on law

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Minus the moral compass the humans had

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And in the end he did bring peace

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through less then savory means

open marsh Apr 25, 2021, 5:14 PM

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storm jungle Theres a reason he hated Corvus more than any of his siblings lol

He hated Corvus because he was jealous of him. As Corvus was what he wanted to be. Stable, noble, able to bring actual justice instead of constantly losing control of his mind and killing people for funsies

crisp heath Apr 25, 2021, 5:14 PM

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The shadows loved corax

storm jungle Apr 25, 2021, 5:15 PM

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open marsh He hated Corvus because he was jealous of him. As Corvus was what he wanted to b...

moiraCharming

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Its so hilarious too since Corvus is basically a Good Konrad

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Curze deserved everything that happened to him

open marsh Apr 25, 2021, 5:15 PM

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Corvus made a similar observation. That he and Curze were two sides of the same coin. And wondered if he would have ended up like Curze (and Curze had been the noble one) had they landed on the other's world

crisp heath Apr 25, 2021, 5:16 PM

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Also dont forget curze’s foresight was another huge factor in his development

open marsh Apr 25, 2021, 5:17 PM

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yup

crisp heath Apr 25, 2021, 5:18 PM

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Dude knew what was going to happen and the one time he felt the courage to actually tell someone to try and stop the heresy, they betrayed him

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Fulgrim was such an idiot for telling DORN of all people

open marsh Apr 25, 2021, 5:18 PM

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The problem is. Curze couldnt tell what will be and what could be changed. So he just assumed all his visions would be. Until Sang smacked some sense into him

storm jungle Apr 25, 2021, 5:18 PM

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Maybe he shouldnt have been a psycho beforehand then, maybe they wouldnt have treated it like a Timmy Fell Down the Well problem

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also yeah that too

open marsh Apr 25, 2021, 5:19 PM

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crisp heath Fulgrim was such an idiot for telling DORN of all people

Fulgrim was such an idiot ~~for telling DORN of all people~~

storm jungle Apr 25, 2021, 5:19 PM

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He had other obligations Medic

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like looking at himself in the mirror

crisp heath Apr 25, 2021, 5:19 PM

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Yeah thats true lel

storm jungle Apr 25, 2021, 5:19 PM

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a very important task

crisp heath Apr 25, 2021, 5:20 PM

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“Hey curze told me a secret, ima tell the one dude who’s gonna react the worst to it”

open marsh Apr 25, 2021, 5:20 PM

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Fulgrim probably did it as a prank to both. Just trying to cause drama because he was bored

crisp heath Apr 25, 2021, 5:20 PM

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LOL

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Curze had beef with like EVERY primarch

open marsh Apr 25, 2021, 5:21 PM

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He liked Sang

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He wanted Sang to kill him.

crisp heath Apr 25, 2021, 5:21 PM

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Tru

open marsh Apr 25, 2021, 5:21 PM

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But Sang is best boi and couldnt bring himself to do it

crisp heath Apr 25, 2021, 5:22 PM

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I liked in prince of crows where sevetar is describing curze’s fighting style

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When he’s fighting Lion for the second time

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He says something like he looked like a marionette being pulled by invisible strings, just falling over and jerking back with a strike

vast frigate Apr 25, 2021, 6:05 PM

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''Papa dorn, horus is a bitch''

dull flame Apr 26, 2021, 3:06 PM

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Dvorgin blinked, seeming to come back into himself. The mask of Mordian discipline slipped easily back over his face, but his eyes exhibited such pain. ‘I am sorry, my lord. I would say it is simply tiredness, but…’ Dvorgin tailed off. He took a sharp breath, and forced himself to look into Achallor’s eyes. ‘With the greatest respect, Lord Achallor, you ask the impossible.’

Achallor looked down at the man in growing surprise. The general stared back, his eyes dark-rimmed with exhaustion. Achallor could see it had cost him a lot to speak up, but now that he had forced the words out, he would say his piece. ‘Your warriors may be suited to such unrelenting operations, my lord, but mine are not. Nor are the Phyroxians. Nor, I suspect, are the Battle Sisters. Mordian discipline is a wonderful resource but we are not indefatigable. My soldiers have seen weeks of constant battle. We have lost more in the few days since your arrival than in the month before. You spend our lives as though they have no other meaning and Throne knows that is your right, but what do we have to show for it? Stretched supply lines, exhausted reserves, and a half-ruined bastion. Now you ask us to march at once upon the enemy’s greatest stronghold without food, or rest, or a chance to mourn our fallen, and to send others into certain death below the ground. I condemn my soldiers to a pointless end. To do so would be an inexcusable waste in the sight of the Emperor. Strike me down for my insubordination if you must, my lord, but I speak only the truth as I see it.’  ```

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Dawn of Fire: The Gate of Bones. A Mordian General speaking his mind to a Custodian

cerulean wagon Apr 26, 2021, 3:09 PM

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Chad IG vs virgin custodians

barren tapir Apr 26, 2021, 3:17 PM

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The custodian then make the sign of the aquila to that general

crisp heath Apr 26, 2021, 4:30 PM

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tfw when ||hound dies in blood reaver|| 😦

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https://tenor.com/view/sad-cry-crying-tears-broken-gif-15062040

Tenor

serene jungle Apr 26, 2021, 4:32 PM

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Does Ogryns ever get executed for something if a group is called for heresy because of the Inquisiton's suspicions?

ashen zenith Apr 26, 2021, 4:33 PM

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well ogryns can be corrupted by chaos so i dont see why not

open marsh Apr 26, 2021, 4:35 PM

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I can image a scene like a 40k version of "Of Mice and Men", with the Ogryn being Lenny

worn dagger Apr 26, 2021, 4:37 PM

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The Ogyrn just keeps petting Squats too hard.

lilac zephyr Apr 26, 2021, 4:43 PM

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Think this would be best in here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JM-J794dVow

YouTube

SODAZ

[워해머,Warhammer40k]Legacy

this is warhammer fan film

▶ Play video

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Beautiful story

crisp heath Apr 26, 2021, 7:14 PM

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dull flame ```Achallor paused. ‘General?’ Dvorgin blinked, seeming to come back into himse...

That guy was such a fucking madlad

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I finished the book last night

storm jungle Apr 26, 2021, 7:47 PM

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I realy like the book

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like its nothing groundbreaking but its a fun story

coarse tree Apr 26, 2021, 9:04 PM

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Does the Inquisition outrank the Adeptus Custodes? Like could an Inquisitor walk up and be like "I need to go mess around in the throne room" and they just let him in?

crisp heath Apr 26, 2021, 9:05 PM

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I would say no, because of how many heretical inquisitors there have been

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but i have no actual evidence to support this

storm jungle Apr 26, 2021, 9:06 PM

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Theres good topics about it but a Custodian outranks everyone in the Imperium.

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An inquisitor almost holds the same rank because they ""answer"" only to the Emperor but obviously custodians get more leverage since they were literally made by the guy

gaunt vector Apr 26, 2021, 9:07 PM

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The custodes were given an "I do whatever I want" card by the Emperor, the inquisition was given a "do this" card by Malcador which they have since turned into a "do whatever we want and get away with it" card so yes the Custodes outrank the Inquisition

storm jungle Apr 26, 2021, 9:07 PM

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And if we had to use layman's terms, a custodian can just murder an inquisitor with a skull cracking slap and nobody could do anything.

gaunt vector Apr 26, 2021, 9:08 PM

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apart from a higher ranking custodian

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or the big E

storm jungle Apr 26, 2021, 9:08 PM

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^

potent swift Apr 26, 2021, 9:08 PM

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Where do Primarchs fit into that equation?

coarse tree Apr 26, 2021, 9:08 PM

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So a Custodian could beat an Inquisitor?

gaunt vector Apr 26, 2021, 9:08 PM

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but yh the CO of the entire inquisition could be standing in a corridor, the lowest custodian could walk along and the inquisitor would get out of the way

storm jungle Apr 26, 2021, 9:09 PM

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coarse tree So a Custodian could beat an Inquisitor?

Yep.

gaunt vector Apr 26, 2021, 9:09 PM

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potent swift Where do Primarchs fit into that equation?

I think Guilliman can ask Custodes to do things but he can order an inquisitor

coarse tree Apr 26, 2021, 9:10 PM

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Interesting

storm jungle Apr 26, 2021, 9:10 PM

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the Primarch thing can also be brought down to "Do the custodians respect the said Primarch enough to do what they want."

coarse tree Apr 26, 2021, 9:10 PM

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Isn't there a higher tier of the Custodian?

gaunt vector Apr 26, 2021, 9:10 PM

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So "hey Shield captain get me another drink will ya?" would be met with "f*ck off Russ"

gaunt vector Apr 26, 2021, 9:11 PM

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coarse tree Isn't there a higher tier of the Custodian?

the Custodes have ranks like Shield Captain and their CO is the Captain General

storm jungle Apr 26, 2021, 9:13 PM

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coarse tree Isn't there a higher tier of the Custodian?

Captain-General – Chief Custodian to the Emperor
Custodian Tribunate
Tribune
Proconsul
Prefect
Lictor
Supreme Castellan
Aquila Commander
Shield-Captain
– Custodian

gaunt vector Apr 26, 2021, 9:14 PM

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do they not have a version of sgt? looks like it goes from 0 to Captain

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bizzare

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then again Custodes are just going to Custode however they want to

storm jungle Apr 26, 2021, 9:15 PM

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Shield-Captain — Squad Leader. These are the most veteran, well-knowledged, and experienced Custodians. The rank exists concurrently with other Custodian titles such as Prefect, Lictor, Proconsul, and Tribune.

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From the lexi so i just assume they dont really need one since guys of this rank are so numerous

gaunt vector Apr 26, 2021, 9:15 PM

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so a Captain is like a sgt. ooooooooooooooooooooook then

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I thought that Karstodes had a really high rank among the Custodes when he talked about being a shield capt in TTS

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guess I was wrong

storm jungle Apr 26, 2021, 9:17 PM

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~~Yeah it makes sense for denegerates like those guys~~

gaunt vector Apr 26, 2021, 9:17 PM

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lmao

storm jungle Apr 26, 2021, 9:17 PM

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Kitten's trip to Mars DOES show off some other ranks among his buddies tho

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though iirc it wasnt that many

gaunt vector Apr 26, 2021, 9:18 PM

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I was too distracted by Protean politics

storm jungle Apr 26, 2021, 9:18 PM

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lmao

gaunt vector Apr 26, 2021, 9:18 PM

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SYfK8VlSf6M

YouTube

StringStorm ‌

TTS OST - Protean Politics

Watch Episode 28 here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9qi3Evua2Cs

Download links:
With SFX:
http://www.mediafire.com/file/hbdhtc1o772fkp1/Alfabusa%252C_Karl_the_Deranged%252C_StringStorm_-_Protean_Politics_%2528With_SFX%2529.mp3/file
No SFX:
http://www.mediafire.com/file/b75x8gqwd7nbeyf/Alfabusa%252C_Karl_the_Deranged%252C_StringStorm_-_Protea...

▶ Play video

storm jungle Apr 26, 2021, 9:18 PM

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Truly a battle for the ages

gaunt vector Apr 26, 2021, 9:19 PM

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top 10 rappers that Eminem REALLY would be too afraid to diss

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"I know something about you. You went to Schola Progenium that's a private school!"

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ded reference

barren tapir Apr 26, 2021, 9:36 PM

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Trajan valoris, the captain general of custodes prohibited the ordo xenos to enter the sanctum of a genestealer patriarch, and even then a custodian can kinda order inquisitors if they are in the imperial palace... Outside the imperial palace the authority is not as absolute, still they are among the highest ranking people on all terra

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There is only one force that they cannot officially command, and that force is the Silent Sisterhood, as they only have the right and duty to walk the imperial palace freely

cloud kindle Apr 26, 2021, 9:37 PM

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even if its outside its still a stupid idea to refuse a custodes

barren tapir Apr 26, 2021, 9:38 PM

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But the custodian being the custodian they rarely command others

coarse mirage Apr 26, 2021, 10:04 PM

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coarse tree Does the Inquisition outrank the Adeptus Custodes? Like could an Inquisitor walk...

No. Custodes can do whatever in and around the Throne.

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Inquisitors can't do shit to them. They're entirely immune to such politicking.

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That doesn't stop the Inquisition from trying, I'm sure.

cloud kindle Apr 26, 2021, 10:31 PM

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im guessing having a guardian spear pointed at your face will make them reconsider real quick

vast frigate Apr 26, 2021, 11:42 PM

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i doubt the spear ever has to be pointed

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the slight reminder of ''youre suree?'' might be all they need

storm jungle Apr 27, 2021, 12:10 AM

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https://tenor.com/view/bane-dark-knight-do-you-feel-in-charge-gif-7600714

Tenor

vagrant osprey Apr 27, 2021, 12:20 AM

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If any of the Custodes does the bidding of an Inquisitor, that is because the Custodes either personally respects that specific Inquisitor, because it's something they independently believe to be worth doing, or because it's part of a plan

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An Inquisitor can't order Custodes to pass the salt.

autumn sable Apr 27, 2021, 4:09 AM

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shit not even a primarch can command a custodes

peak hamlet Apr 27, 2021, 12:16 PM

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Could you theoretically create space marine ogryns?

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Since they are kinda human too

cerulean wagon Apr 27, 2021, 12:17 PM

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most likely not

peak hamlet Apr 27, 2021, 12:18 PM

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In that case if i create one il just say it was fabius lol

storm jungle Apr 27, 2021, 12:18 PM

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peak hamlet In that case if i create one il just say it was fabius lol

This.

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That guy says fuck it and does it all, so go nuts

eternal ledge Apr 27, 2021, 12:22 PM

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I love that Fabius is I genius but also a comic book villain at the same time

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Stories where he's the main character Tactical genius
stories where he's a villain
Next time Guiliman... next time...

storm jungle Apr 27, 2021, 12:24 PM

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also the fact that hes an atheist lol

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even when he came face to face with slaanesh he was like "NOPE NUH UH"

eternal ledge Apr 27, 2021, 12:24 PM

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Lol

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I love in the one book where they pretend to be loyalists to infiltrate a planet and one of the guys in his squad is like "This is so degrading" and he just responds "Just keep waving like a good servant of the corpse Emperor"

storm jungle Apr 27, 2021, 12:27 PM

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Oh my god wait

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https://tenor.com/view/skipper-smile-and-wave-boys-madagascar-kowalski-uhhuh-gif-8713771

Tenor

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same energy lol

eternal ledge Apr 27, 2021, 12:27 PM

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Yep

dim totem Apr 27, 2021, 1:43 PM

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What book is that lol

torn stream Apr 27, 2021, 1:45 PM

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I need the book name lmao

eternal ledge Apr 27, 2021, 1:52 PM

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I think it was Clonelord

gusty fulcrum Apr 27, 2021, 1:56 PM

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peak hamlet Could you theoretically create space marine ogryns?

Did i read the words space marine Ogryns?!

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but ya i dont think they could cuz theyed proabably start suffering under thier own mass and be less effctive

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cuz in some stuff tehy imply that happens to marines who happen to grow bigger then they should

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but theres also whats his name in the ragnar blackmane series whos suppose to be fuckhuge

eternal ledge Apr 27, 2021, 2:01 PM

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I love how in the Uriel Ventris books his best friend Pasanius was too big for standard power armor so they modified some Terminator chest piece for him

gusty fulcrum Apr 27, 2021, 2:01 PM

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oh shit could that be who im thinking of i just remeber this guy having something up with his metabolism so hed be stuffing his face till he was red

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and being a general badass

eternal ledge Apr 27, 2021, 2:08 PM

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No I don't think Pasanius had a messed up metabolism

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Just a big blue boy

novel fulcrum Apr 27, 2021, 9:43 PM

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yeh, i recall hearing about a couple of different spess mahreens just being so big that they needed to wear modified terminator armor

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good stuff

open marsh Apr 27, 2021, 10:03 PM

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Only one that was so big as to require custom armour was Ranulf of the Space Wolves

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While Pasanius's power armour was modified with parts from termie armour. It wasnt due to his size. It was just they had some parts that were deemed too damaged for use in a termie suit and were like "Hey, Pasanius. Want these?"

mystic terrace Apr 27, 2021, 10:19 PM

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pretty sure Abaddon also required chonkier armor due to his larger-than-normal size

kind dove Apr 28, 2021, 12:10 AM

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There is an entire chapter from the Cursed Founding that is ENORMOUS

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Sons of Antaeus. Caused all sorts of logistical issues because nothing fit any of them.

open marsh Apr 28, 2021, 12:33 AM

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Where was that said?

placid timber Apr 28, 2021, 1:21 AM

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storm jungle https://tenor.com/view/skipper-smile-and-wave-boys-madagascar-kowalski-uhhuh-gif...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I-2DH_MmtHk

YouTube

Frostbite The Badass Ice Carnotaurus

When you realize who the four anime girls in that one meme actually...

the penguins of madagascar
want to be dominated? meme

▶ Play video

gusty fulcrum Apr 28, 2021, 3:58 AM

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heh

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i love how those four little dudes are basicly what everyone took away from those movies and the show oh and i guess king julian too

ashen zenith Apr 28, 2021, 5:04 AM

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is there any site that archived all the 1d4chan articles?

crisp heath Apr 28, 2021, 5:05 AM

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https://1d4chan.org/

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it went to .net

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then to .org

ashen zenith Apr 28, 2021, 5:06 AM

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holy shit thank you

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dunno y but its not indexed in google

crisp heath Apr 28, 2021, 5:07 AM

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yeah i mean i think the webdudes are more focused on trying to battle the hackerdudes

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before he fixes all that

novel fulcrum Apr 28, 2021, 5:23 AM

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did they lose anything? i haven't noticed any sign of anything going missing, just the site itself having gone down for a while for no reason i'm aware of
just assumed the host missed a payment or something

crisp heath Apr 28, 2021, 5:26 AM

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it was some altright guys going insane cause idk feminism or something i think

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but i dont think anything was lost

placid timber Apr 28, 2021, 5:32 AM

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Wait whut?...oh christ

crisp heath Apr 28, 2021, 5:34 AM

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its really not worth looking into

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i asked around in a.... certain board and they were just being so vague about who was taking it down because they couldn't just outright say "we hate women and minorities so we're trying to take it down"

placid timber Apr 28, 2021, 5:36 AM

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But like

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Its 1d4 chan

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A site that hates women and minorites

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Their slur usage is atrocious

crisp heath Apr 28, 2021, 5:37 AM

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yeah i think like some people were editing them out or something

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and that was the start of "a literal culture war" or something, according to them

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and the owner was like "I dont care"

odd sparrow Apr 28, 2021, 5:38 AM

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it's invariably gonna be p channy yeah

crisp heath Apr 28, 2021, 5:38 AM

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something like that

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idunno

odd sparrow Apr 28, 2021, 5:38 AM

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coming out of /tg/ then like,, yeah

crisp heath Apr 28, 2021, 5:38 AM

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but its a 4chan wiki, who cares enough to spend days creating tools to destroy the website over and over

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its just so.... mind boggling to me

odd sparrow Apr 28, 2021, 5:38 AM

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though in my experience it doesn't come out much

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it's a p good wiki tbh

crisp heath Apr 28, 2021, 5:39 AM

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yeah i just stay away from the pages i know are gonna be horrible

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i cant imagine what the sjw page must look like lol

placid timber Apr 28, 2021, 5:40 AM

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Its strat page is frustratingly good

crisp heath Apr 28, 2021, 5:40 AM

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☝️ this 100%

placid timber Apr 28, 2021, 5:40 AM

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Everything else

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Die

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At best its horrid old joke lore inaccuracies that are still spread to this day thanks to them

crisp heath Apr 28, 2021, 5:41 AM

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those pages spell it out in understandable ways, helps you build a good foundation and gives you some fun ideas/concepts to play with

placid timber Apr 28, 2021, 5:41 AM

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And at worst its just horrible shit said about other people

crisp heath Apr 28, 2021, 5:42 AM

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Looking at the writer's pages on that

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christ man, people are really fucking mean sometimes

atomic pelican Apr 28, 2021, 5:44 AM

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Goonhammer has good strat pages without slurs

placid timber Apr 28, 2021, 5:44 AM

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Goon hammer isnt as good

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I wish it was

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I really wish it was better

crisp heath Apr 28, 2021, 5:48 AM

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yeah i havent found much i like about it

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I tried looking up kill team stuff

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and its just nonstop negativity

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"kill team isnt a good game.... but i mean i guess if you want to play..."

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"kill team sucks..... but i mean..."

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clicks on goonhammer's CSM killteam page

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"dont play csm, theyre not competetive"

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"their weapons suck, dont play csm"

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LIKE BROH CHILL

odd sparrow Apr 28, 2021, 5:49 AM

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this is because the types of ubernerds who write this stuff are usually overly negative weirdos

tired tapir Apr 28, 2021, 5:50 AM

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or people who care way too much about winning and not enough about enjoying yourself

atomic pelican Apr 28, 2021, 5:50 AM

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Not sure which pages u saw that on

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I read thru most of their stuff on craftworlds and cults

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Its called started competing for a reason

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They also have starting out guides for noncomp

crisp heath Apr 28, 2021, 5:51 AM

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Yeah I have thought maybe I just got to the wrong pages tbh

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https://www.goonhammer.com/never-gonna-give-you-updates-chaos-space-marine-kill-team-tactics/

Goonhammer

Robert "TheChirurgeon" Jones

Never Gonna Give You Up(dates): Chaos Space Marine Kill Team Tactics

Hello there! Are you a traitor or heretic who hates the false emperor of mankind? Do you seethe with rage at the sight of newer, larger space marines? Do you want to run Berzerkers and chop people …

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this is the article that annoyed me

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ill click around the website though soon

tired tapir Apr 28, 2021, 5:53 AM

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man, i'm still annoyed about craftworlds having almost no plastic models

ashen zenith Apr 28, 2021, 6:03 AM

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novel fulcrum did they *lose* anything? i haven't noticed any sign of anything going missing, ...

dunno im just glad its up, since its not indexed on google rn the first results where people saying it had been taken down so it spooked me

gusty fulcrum Apr 28, 2021, 7:02 AM

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I just read all the lore pages n go haah funnoy or huh thats interesting

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sometimes what the fuck

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i do feel like alotta the pages need updates though

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cuz some of the ones that would seem still relevaent havent been updated in years really or at least not enough to really notice

cloud kindle Apr 28, 2021, 11:16 AM

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you'll get your craftworld model when you FIX THIS DAMN DOOR

tired tapir Apr 28, 2021, 3:26 PM

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lol

coarse tree Apr 28, 2021, 4:52 PM

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So the humans and the Eldari were both at their peak at around the same time?

vagrant osprey Apr 28, 2021, 4:52 PM

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The Eldari hit their peak like 65 million years ago and then basically stayed there

coarse tree Apr 28, 2021, 4:53 PM

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How did the Eldari see this human expansion? How great was humanity in comparison to the Eldari during the dark age?

vagrant osprey Apr 28, 2021, 4:54 PM

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It infuriated them

barren tapir Apr 28, 2021, 4:54 PM

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coarse tree So the humans and the Eldari were both at their peak at around the same time?

Not really, at the Age of Tech of mankind the eldar were already in decline

vagrant osprey Apr 28, 2021, 4:54 PM

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Because Humanity offered the Eldar aid

coarse tree Apr 28, 2021, 4:55 PM

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vagrant osprey It *infuriated* them

Was there any physical conflict between them?

vagrant osprey Apr 28, 2021, 4:55 PM

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I don't know

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But from what we know of DAoT ships, I don't think the Eldar could have actually done anything about it.

gaunt vector Apr 28, 2021, 4:55 PM

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They had a non agression pact I think

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so maybe some Eldar did and the rest thought "oh fuk"

ashen zenith Apr 28, 2021, 4:57 PM

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they were too occupied having knife orgies to care about the bald monkeys

barren tapir Apr 28, 2021, 4:57 PM

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coarse tree Was there any physical conflict between them?

Yes, they fought some wars, but since both were extremely capable they then decided that it was best to be non agrresive

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Also the eldar didn't really cared much about humans expansions, they were busy doing questionable things in their cities

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As for who were most expanded well, the old eldar empire core became the eye of terror (thanks Perturabo for that name), so it is reasonable to think that humans were extremely more expanded

vagrant osprey Apr 28, 2021, 4:59 PM

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Canonically, Eldar covered the galaxy

barren tapir Apr 28, 2021, 5:00 PM

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True, but that was a lot of time ago, even before the humans started to explore space

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And as i said, they were already in decline at the onset of the human Age of Tech

storm jungle Apr 28, 2021, 5:01 PM

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Yeah they were still advanced but basically turned into lazy slobs, even leaving the aspect of fighting wars to robots and such.

barren tapir Apr 28, 2021, 5:02 PM

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And since it is stated that the craftworlders did escaped the eldar empire before the fall i assume that as their empire not covering the entire galaxy anymore, and probably not even half of it, although this last one is just my hypothesis

storm jungle Apr 28, 2021, 5:02 PM

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Yeah their galactic expansion was pretty much randomly selecting planets and terraforming them to chill there, they didnt exactly span the entire thing.

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As blank said more of their core worlds were where the eye of terror used to be so they either just stuck there or to the more secluded corners of the webway

coarse tree Apr 28, 2021, 5:03 PM

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storm jungle Yeah they were still advanced but basically turned into lazy slobs, even leaving...

Didn't the humans do that too though?

storm jungle Apr 28, 2021, 5:03 PM

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Kind of?

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Humanity was NOWHERE as sadomasochist as the eldar though

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their golden age was more or so pretty star trek'y in comparison

coarse tree Apr 28, 2021, 5:05 PM

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I wonder if he Eldar ever had similar problems from their AI

storm jungle Apr 28, 2021, 5:06 PM

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We sadly dont have any info on their AI. Its a throw away line in a single book where they refer to them as "spirit drones" and "psychomatons" so most people just assume they de-activated or got decommissioned from being psychically active after Slaanesh was born

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~~its kind of a plothole thats never brought up again~~

vagrant osprey Apr 28, 2021, 5:06 PM

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They were probably bound warp-things

barren tapir Apr 28, 2021, 5:10 PM

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I think they were powered by the souls of their dead, since you know, the "tech" they have for their "automatons" isn't really technological but it is more warp fuckery

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And they didn't developed the souls stones after the fall afaik

coarse tree Apr 28, 2021, 5:14 PM

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Yeah I'd have to imagine their AI was probably psychic in nature as well

open marsh Apr 28, 2021, 5:17 PM

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normal eldar bullshit

storm jungle Apr 28, 2021, 5:24 PM

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barren tapir I think they were powered by the souls of their dead, since you know, the "tech"...

Yeah its basically psychic robots

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just remove tablet-given-orders and replace them with telepathic-orders and its probably just it.

open marsh Apr 28, 2021, 5:35 PM

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I heard there were stories of Eldar Ghost Warriors trying to reconnect with their families. Someone told me there was a story where one of them tried to make some pottery but failed because their wraithbone body was simply too akward

storm jungle Apr 28, 2021, 5:36 PM

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Might be Valedor, eldar novels insert a lot of angsty scenes of ghost warriors trying to do normal activities before failing at it

open marsh Apr 28, 2021, 5:38 PM

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Yeah. Which book is that from

storm jungle Apr 28, 2021, 5:38 PM

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blobmorning

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Also again theres a lot of eldar wraith unit angst in books so im not sure

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Valedor iirc only has two twins getting depressed over being tasked to pilot a wraith knight

open marsh Apr 28, 2021, 5:39 PM

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Because depressed Eldar ghost robots trying to do stuff and failing sound hilarious and adorable

tall fjord Apr 28, 2021, 5:44 PM

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it could be worse

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they could be in the imperium......where their chapter wakes them up once a week to make him tell them tales of leman russ

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wraithbros get to sleep

coarse tree Apr 28, 2021, 5:59 PM

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I just listened to Luetin's video on Rophanon and he really just said duck it and fed them to the Tyranids lmao

storm jungle Apr 28, 2021, 6:00 PM

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that video is great lol

placid plank Apr 28, 2021, 6:09 PM

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tall fjord they could be in the imperium......where their chapter wakes them up once a week...

”WHAT IS YOUR OPINION ON WOLVES?”

novel fulcrum Apr 28, 2021, 7:37 PM

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placid plank **”WHAT IS YOUR OPINION ON WOLVES?”**

"Uhm...we are neutral about wolves, I suppose?"

tall fjord Apr 28, 2021, 7:38 PM

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get stolen by the blood ravens

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have to pretend to be some guy named davian thule

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(happy ending)

gusty fulcrum Apr 28, 2021, 7:58 PM

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tall fjord get stolen by the blood ravens

tall fjord Apr 28, 2021, 8:06 PM

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lets see how that worked for th-

eternal ledge Apr 28, 2021, 8:06 PM

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tall fjord Apr 28, 2021, 8:06 PM

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"they took our chapter master too"

mystic terrace Apr 28, 2021, 10:53 PM

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I’m actually surprised about how little lore there was relating to this lad

atomic pelican Apr 28, 2021, 10:53 PM

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The Chad UR

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Love that man

mystic terrace Apr 28, 2021, 10:54 PM

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His short story was really rad but it made me want more. True AI are so exceptionally rare that the lack of stuff centered on UR-025 was a bit disappointing

coarse mirage Apr 28, 2021, 11:04 PM

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mystic terrace I’m actually surprised about how little lore there was relating to this lad

He was thought up just for Blackstone Fortress is why

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There was a short comic about AdMech opening up an old complex with an AI

glass cairn Apr 28, 2021, 11:16 PM

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Sauce and ping please

frosty tulip Apr 29, 2021, 12:46 AM

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In the old warhammer monthly. There was a story of a vault being reopened which contained either a self-replicating ai. Or just the men of iron. Cool story but cant remember the name

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! "Pax -Imperialis"

worn dagger Apr 29, 2021, 12:56 AM

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Yeah was looking for it and just found it & gave it a read, always love seeing more stuff for AI in 40k.

worn dagger Apr 29, 2021, 1:24 AM

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I really like the looks of the robots that attack the Arbites, it really makes me wish they did more model wise with Dark Mech & Silica Animus stuff.

crisp heath Apr 29, 2021, 1:48 AM

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They should bring back warhammer monthly

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That shit wS dope

frosty tulip Apr 29, 2021, 2:05 AM

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Aye. it was fuckin dope.

crisp heath Apr 29, 2021, 2:48 AM

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Lord Abbadon it will be as I promised

The Blood Ravens will fall

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Releases DOW 3

rose thorn Apr 29, 2021, 4:28 AM

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are the eldar helmets shaped like vases for a reason?

crisp heath Apr 29, 2021, 4:37 AM

#

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plucky moth Apr 29, 2021, 4:55 AM

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crisp heath

working on it

peak hamlet Apr 29, 2021, 6:01 AM

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mystic terrace His short story was really rad but it made me want more. True AI are so exceptio...

The book death of integrity contains a really advanced pre-imperium ai

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The book was pretty good imo

open marsh Apr 29, 2021, 6:14 AM

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Yeah. That whole ship was DAoT

dull atlas Apr 29, 2021, 5:12 PM

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Wish we could name the characters in Darktide to make own our lore figures

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I like to upload mine to the Wiki

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Cant decide whether I want to do Repentia or Ogryn

cunning lantern Apr 29, 2021, 5:19 PM

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Easiest pick in the book: ogryn.

dull atlas Apr 29, 2021, 5:28 PM

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He’s gonna be badass, for sure, but.... I really want an Eviscerator

undone heron Apr 29, 2021, 5:34 PM

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dull atlas He’s gonna be badass, for sure, but.... I really want an Eviscerator

word! big chainsword!

mint hill Apr 29, 2021, 5:45 PM

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You're saying you don't want to be a guardsman firing an overcharged plasma gun all the time?

open marsh Apr 29, 2021, 5:58 PM

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mint hill You're saying you don't want to be a guardsman firing an overcharged plasma gun ...

If he dont want it, I do.

rotund siren Apr 29, 2021, 6:04 PM

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a stalemate

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1 vote for Ogryn, 2 for priest, 2 for guard

serene jungle Apr 29, 2021, 6:15 PM

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What?

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I vote Ogryn

rotund siren Apr 29, 2021, 6:16 PM

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2 for 2 for 2

serene jungle Apr 29, 2021, 6:16 PM

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I don't know what we are talking about 😦

cerulean wagon Apr 29, 2021, 6:16 PM

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nor do i but i vote guard

serene jungle Apr 29, 2021, 6:16 PM

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ok got it

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Caught up, yes I vote ogryn

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but all of them are good

rotund siren Apr 29, 2021, 6:17 PM

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alrighty, so, 2 votes for Ogryn, 2 for priest, 3 for guard

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let's split the guard votes, anybody voting for the sergeant? Besides me, of course

primal tide Apr 29, 2021, 6:20 PM

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1 vote for squat

mint hill Apr 29, 2021, 6:27 PM

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Scion would be pretty sweet too though

cloud kindle Apr 29, 2021, 8:58 PM

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ogryn

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be the good boi

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guardsman is just going to roll ones with the plasma

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it always happens

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it is inevitable

serene jungle Apr 29, 2021, 9:05 PM

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I'll be the goodest

vagrant osprey Apr 29, 2021, 9:50 PM

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Tech Priest, please.

crisp heath Apr 29, 2021, 10:19 PM

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Replace all main characters with space wolves

rotund siren Apr 29, 2021, 10:19 PM

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That's a weird way to spell Primaris Marines

crisp heath Apr 29, 2021, 10:46 PM

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does anyone ever leave necromunda?

potent swift Apr 29, 2021, 10:52 PM

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The Imperial Fists recruit from it so presumably plenty of people leave assuming they survive the trials.

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If you meant regular folk than I guess the Merchant Guilders and Nobles probably do occasionally

crisp heath Apr 29, 2021, 11:56 PM

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Primaris marines look cool, but I dont think they'll be as iconic as the OG space marines

crisp heath Apr 30, 2021, 12:00 AM

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crisp heath Primaris marines look cool, but I dont think they'll be as iconic as the OG spac...

I like the look of the new cowwadooty marines but i feel strange everytime someone wants GW to sell a chaos primaris pack. Common suggestions are either world eaters or emperors children. No death guard or word bearers or black legion for some reason

cloud kindle Apr 30, 2021, 12:18 AM

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No one likes word bearers

crisp heath Apr 30, 2021, 12:26 AM

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They would just be a mirror Primaris space marines though

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Why not have some lore where the chaos gods exert their influence on the heretic marines more making them more powerful

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At least making them similar but not the same

potent swift Apr 30, 2021, 12:33 AM

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They should just uncork some more Chaos Legions, have the Iron Warriors bust into the scene with extra cursed tacticool gear and daemon combat servitors or empowered Nightlords that have gone full Varghulf batmen.

crisp heath Apr 30, 2021, 12:50 AM

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cloud kindle No one likes word bearers

More specifically no one likes lorgar

cloud kindle Apr 30, 2021, 12:51 AM

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vagrant osprey Apr 30, 2021, 2:16 PM

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Look, we all know Primaris were made with traitor geneseed. GW is going to have that not matter at all, until it does, then walk it back

vagrant osprey Apr 30, 2021, 3:29 PM

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Just wait for the next Chaos codex

frigid mesa Apr 30, 2021, 5:21 PM

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hello guys

frigid mesa Apr 30, 2021, 6:06 PM

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