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#40k-lore-chat
tender igloo
I would LIKE to see the Blood Angels be the poster boys for a while
fallow drum
Well Battle Sector is about Blood Angels
cerulean wagon
I would LIKE to see the Blood Angels be the poster boys for a while
you mean siege of baal?
crisp heath
I prefer the Blood Angels bein the “almost perfect, but still broken” legion
I like that
cloud kindle
i want to see dante wipe the floor with the angel vermillion
tender igloo
i'm talking about in promotional material and on the boxes
tender igloo
i think we are about to reach that point to be honest
cloud kindle
devastation of ball a summary: "dante: please just let me fucking die"
cerulean wagon
i mean ye terror
tender igloo
with a lot of stuff blood angels related coming out
cerulean wagon
we literaly just had that
crisp heath
I would type out the part im thinkjng about but i dont know how to do spoiler tags
crisp heath
devastation of ball a summary: "dante: please just let me fucking die"
Sang: no.
cerulean wagon
back during gathering storm
they had their spot light boxes and art during that like
2 years ago?
cloud kindle
you know whats going to happen if dante does get fatally wounded right
tender igloo
primaris dante
cloud kindle
put into a fucking dreadnought
tender igloo
cursed words
cloud kindle
hell the blood angels were pissed that dante wanted to cross the rubricon
tender igloo
he'll also get a shiny new model to boot
barren tapir
I would type out the part im thinkjng about but i dont know how to do spoiler ta...
You can select all the part you want to spoiler and a pop up menu should appear, otherwise use || before and after the things you want to put under spoiler
crisp heath
put into a fucking dreadnought
Can you still be Chapter Master from a dreadnought?
tender igloo
nope
cloud kindle
they were like its a 40% chance of survival and you are NOT fucking risking your life
barren tapir
Can you still be Chapter Master from a dreadnought?
Yes
cloud kindle
no otherwise bjorn would still be leading
fallow drum
Can you still be Chapter Master from a dreadnought?
You can do anything from a dreadnought if you try hard enough
crisp heath
Dont dreads need to sleep like 90% of their time or somethin?
barren tapir
There is a chapter that is lead by a dreadnought, but i cannot remember its name
cloud kindle
yup
only woken in dire circumstances or for special occasions
like bjorn
only awoken when the situation is dire or at the start of a new millenium for the feast
tender igloo
or you know what? I would also really like to see the Imperial Fists be the poster boys for a while
cloud kindle
fists got some love from the custodes in repairing some systems on the phalanx
they were going to go to war against treasonous high lords and the minotaurs chapter
sums up the book in a nutshell
tender igloo
40k is such a mess of ideas and stories that despite my love of it i really cannot take the setting as a whole seriously anymore
fallow drum
Well I always thought you were never meant to take it seriously
All the hardcore fans I know say not too
tender igloo
i think i probably have a different idea of taking it seriously than a lot of other people do
barren tapir
fists got some love from the custodes in repairing some systems on the phalanx
Yeah, and the funny thing is that the fist tried to understand why... Like, they didn't trusted the custodes
cloud kindle
it was sudden
fallow drum
I love Custodes but we probably will never get a game for them
storm jungle
Im pretty sure the only time you are suppose to take 40k seriously is in novels
and even then sometimes its just ridiculous lol
fallow drum
Yeah depends on the novel
cloud kindle
phalanx had been chilling mostly near terra for the last 10k years
fallow drum
Imagine doing anything for 10k years
cloud kindle
only suddenly for the custodes to be like alright here we got some shit to repair your ship
barren tapir
It was attacked and did go to cadia in the 13th black crusade
cloud kindle
i did say mostly
barren tapir
That is where it was damaged iirc
cloud kindle
yeh
tender igloo
i am so glad the setting finally moved forward at least
cloud kindle
though the phalanx was pretty abandoned
tender igloo
i am tired of people saying that 40k is a setting, not a story and so it should never progress
cloud kindle
well compared to 30k
storm jungle
i am tired of people saying that 40k is a setting, not a story and so it should ...
God this
cloud kindle
phalanx was meant for a legion
storm jungle
like it seriously doesnt matter much
i dont know why everyone gets so up and arms about it
cloud kindle
several areas of the phalanx were mothballed
tender igloo
that's how you get an end times situation
storm jungle
Its gonna happen in the future when 40k doesnt make any money i hope
i just hope im alive by then to see how wackily they wrap everything up
cloud kindle
you wont
storm jungle
I dunno dude, a lot can happen in 90+ years
cloud kindle
hopefully ill be dead by then
tender igloo
i am happy that AOS got so much better after its less than good launch
like it was terrible on release
tender igloo
but we got the heraldry for brettonia, is that not good enough for you? /s
storm jungle
azure vault
I think they mentioned updates for old world would be slow since it's a ways off in development still atm
storm jungle
That and them helping design new armies like Cathay for CA too
cloud kindle
primaris brettonia
azure vault
Ye but still even tho it's slow going the update we have had are nice
Like the last one was a updated old world map
barren tapir
Fantasy > aos for lore
tender igloo
they brought the gigachad back at least
barren tapir
For real? Gelt got simgmarined?
tender igloo
yeye
barren tapir
Poor soul
tender igloo
he still a chad though
he was the main character of the soul wars novel
he also had a rematch with mannfred in another story
azure vault
he was the main character of the soul wars novel
Are the soulwar books worth reading? I never got round to them.
tender igloo
i would say soul wars is worth a read, yeah
odd sparrow
didn't settra get sigmarined and then immediately killed
odd sparrow
oh nice
azure vault
Nice
odd sparrow
tbh hot take but if they can just recreate vampire counts 2.0 they can bring the tomb kings back
i know they won't cus why would they but like
all the poor tomb kings players
potent swift
AOS has been doing a great job ensuring every faction gets its fair share of lumps. Broken Realms especially has not been all that kind to the Stormcast despite posterboy status.
crisp heath
Are they
cerulean wagon
cyber mastiffs n all
worn dagger
Yeah besides Cyber Mastiffs dogs pop up in lore everyonce in awhile, would be cool to see Imperial Guard attack dogs or something. Or maybe riderless Serberys units for AdMech.
storm jungle
Ive never seen a dog in 40k
Just a heads up, if theres any earth animal you see in a 40k book mentioned in a foreign planet the general excuse is "the human colonizers WAY back in the day just brought them there and they just breeded and became a part of the wildlife"
or just something along those lines
crisp heath
I am confused abiut monkeys tho
storm jungle
the jokaero?
potent swift
Thats a robot tho
crisp heath
In Master of Mankind, Land says they had no ideas how monkeys work cause they went extinct
But
Jokero
storm jungle
Jokaero are aliens
crisp heath
WHAT
storm jungle
Even the wiki says they literally look like orangutans, im pretty sure they were just added in without the writers realising they're literally just robot monkeys you are suppose to accept that are just alien
yup
its stupid
but you gotta accept it!
worn dagger
They might be earth apes taken by Old Ones but we don't know for sure.
crisp heath
Its not stupid
Its amazing and i love it
Robot alien monkeys that might be godspawn?
Sick
crisp heath
The part with Arkhan Land was mad funny tho
He’s talking shit about another inventor/tech guy
And hes like “that idiot thought monkeys swung from tree to tree with just their tails, smfh”
barren tapir
Why that always remind me of minecraft bees?
potent swift
Or the Admech thinking mules were actually a kind of insect
worn dagger
I mean I'm sure the Jokaero wouldn't mind just being Old One proxies taken from Earth, prob why they haven't been wiped out by humans besides their valuable tech skills lol.
I can just see a AdMEch shrugging their mechatendrites and going "Beetle?" when looking at a mule, so wait does that mean they thought regular horses were insects lol?
crisp heath
Jokaero are the old ones. Theyre just chillin tho
They dont care no more
Theyre just along for the ride
potent swift
They returned to monke
crisp heath
exactly
ashen zenith
are there any really beginner friendly books that maybe go more in depth describing what stuff looks like when it gets mentioned?
like if a hive tyrant appears for example the author actually described what it looks like?
primal tide
Hungry
open marsh
are there any really beginner friendly books that maybe go more in depth describ...
Helsreach. Tho its focused on Imperial Forces vs Orkz
edgy badge
Anyone have a prediction of whether Space Marine stuff will be in this game?
I just got into Warhammer and I'm in love
rotund siren
Space Marines are confirmed to not be in the game
shell pebble
^
gaunt vector
This game is set to be about the guard not the space marines
If u are looking for SM, try Warhammer 40,000 space marine or the Dawn of War serise (I recomend u start with 1 or 2 because opinions on 3 are devided to say the least)
Or Deathwing
*Space Hulk Deathwing
get the enhanced edition though
gaunt vector
np, nice to see u joining us
gaunt vector
Helsreach. Tho its focused on Imperial Forces vs Orkz
I think there is also an animation of Helsreach on YT
plucky moth
we don't know for certain but it's looking like strictly guard
rotund siren
at most perhaps some low-end AdMech, but imo that is not super duper likely
some folks are also hoping for a psyker
a regular human psyker, that is
just for a general idea of the power level we're expecting
plucky moth
me irl
rotund siren
you're a regular human psyker?
gasp THE EMPEROR???
wait no nvm
you're an Aussie
plucky moth
cloud kindle
we are all psykers here
plucky moth
Too right
rotund siren
That's what I was gonna say!
plucky moth
coarse mirage
we are all psykers here
*psychos
plucky moth
lmao
stark bluff
How big is the 40k lore
stark bluff
Yes I know it's big but HOW big is the million dollar question here
edgy badge
You'd have to give me a scale
Alright alright
Whatever you're thinking right now
multiply that by 10
vagrant osprey
40k is designed so that literally any science fiction or science fantasy setting can take place inside of it.
So authors often just introduce things as a one-off
40k is a setting where Xenomorphs could wind up in a shoot-out with a Federation Starfleet away team in Night City.
Incidentally, that's basically what it's like when a Van Saar winds up near Hive Secundus
odd sparrow
Yeah that's p much it. It's very large in scope so the dozens of authors that are working on 40k projects at any given time have a lot of flexibility
Not really a coherent setting with lore you can fully learn like other things, closer to an IP with settings and storylines in it. is weird
potent swift
You gotta keep in mind 40K has been around for over 30 years. There's no real 'start' to learning the lore, it's more or less finding something you like and wiki-walking from there.
atomic pelican
Just pick a faction you like the vibe of, branch from there I'd say
edgy badge
I started with the IMperium
odd sparrow
ye that's a good approach
edgy badge
a lot of good lore there
atomic pelican
With the Imperium you probably want to pick out one of it ssubfactions
since it's more like a entire wing than it is a branch
edgy badge
A looot
odd sparrow
Yea. Like, if you're a fan of a particular tabletop faction like sisters of battle or admech or smthn you can start from there
atomic pelican
If space marines, then probs a chapter
odd sparrow
filters it out enough that you're left with a sorta more manageable amount of content
atomic pelican
Yeees
crisp heath
aight
Fear to Tread is kinda based
when ||meros is half dead, and he shit talks the word bearer, and literally lobotomizes him with his medicae gauntlet||
fuck word bearers
barren tapir
It is something that always float in the air
potent swift
Mutant, xenos, take your pick
crisp heath
Thats one gigantic dude doe 😳
open marsh
Mutant, xenos, take your pick
A couple of space antelope you hit with your void ship when they decided RIGHT THEN was the perfect time to run across the warp route
crisp heath
You gotta keep in mind 40K has been around for over 30 years. There's no real 's...
I always wonder with such a long period of lore if theres ever going to be a conclusion to it all
dim totem
Nupe
crisp heath
Will there be a day where the emperor returns?
open marsh
Maybe. In another 30 years
crisp heath
Or just Warhammer 40k 50k edition
open marsh
They were gonna make a 50k. When they made AoS. But AoS had poor initial reception, so they canceled the 50k game and crammed what they had into 40k
crisp heath
Oh, didnt they restart the whole Warhammer lore in fantasy, I remember reading something like that
I only know 40k, so never really cared for that
dim totem
they just ended the old world and theyre bringing it back now apparently
anyway yeah i just want angry spacemen with swords
atomic pelican
Old World is a prequel, not a true return. But fantasy moreso got cut and then a sequel
dim totem
yeah, prequel
crisp heath
anyway yeah i just want angry spacemen with swords
Yeah, spess marheens and nuns with guns are my favorite factions
dim totem
I do wonder
I kind of hope bretonnia and the empire will still be recognizable
my favourite faction is loyal spaceracists with rifles
crisp heath
Marines Malevolent?
open marsh
They arent that bad. They just get memed alot
crisp heath
They have malevolent in their name
They're bad and they know their bad
They're like Minotaurs lite
dim totem
IG
open marsh
....the Minotaurs arent that bad either
crisp heath
That's subjective
open marsh
Not...really? Name something bad the Minotaurs have done
dim totem
kill a guy
crisp heath
They're inquisition lap dogs aren't they
open marsh
nope. not inquisition. Thats the Red Hunters
crisp heath
I'm pretty sure they are or at least from what I remember they follow the high lords of terra
open marsh
They are beholden to the high lords of terra. specifically the adeptus administrium
crisp heath
Either way, they follow a bunch of bureaucrats instead of the God emperor
crisp heath
Grey Knights would be more anti demon I guess
atomic pelican
Ones red and ones grey
crisp heath
I never heard of Red hunters honestly
open marsh
Grey Knights arent really beholden to the Inquisition. While they are pretty much part of the Ordo Malleus, they are still their own thing
cerulean wagon
what's the difference between these red hunters and the grey knights?
Grey knights have garbage lore, red hunters act as grey knights should
i.e. mind wiping instead of killing everyone
open marsh
Eh. Grey Knight lore is awesome. People just meme them from 5th Edition (Matt Ward era). Their lore has been fixed since
cerulean wagon
i mean
its still as bad currently
one sec
"Salvation would come in the form of a war fleet from the Forgeworld of Deimos. The admech forces aboard were armed with remarkable anti-daemon weaponry and were supported Grey Knights. The anti-daemon force fell upon the worlds ravaged by the daemonic onslaught and began to purge them. Though, reports point that purgation also extended to Imperial forces that fought the daemons."
this is from current edition
crisp heath
The Space Wolves apparently kicked the Grey Knights asses when they tried to cleanse Armageddon even though they are supposed to be better than Space Marines
open marsh
"Salvation would come in the form of a war fleet from the Forgeworld of Deimos. ...
I see no issue with this? Thats standard protocol
atomic pelican
Months of shame lul
cerulean wagon
its stupid protocal
atomic pelican
Grimnar owning that inquis, hightier
open marsh
Yeah,. because risking allowing another chaos outbreak is an amazing idea
crisp heath
The whole mind wiping thing with chaos doesn't make sense to me, too much of the Imperium is in combat with Chaos, like how is it practical to try and hide it
cerulean wagon
thats why its stupid boreale
crisp heath
And who does it extend too?
cerulean wagon
"its standard protocol"
open marsh
The whole mind wiping thing with chaos doesn't make sense to me, too much of the...
partially, most of the Imperium think daemons are just xenos. But also memories can be used as a way of corruption.
cerulean wagon
literaly all of cadia knows of chaos
veterans who have fought chaos exist and arent dead
having people who know is useful
open marsh
>literaly all of cadia knows of chaos
imagine that the Ig arent all cadian.
atomic pelican
Tfw green armor is cadia
crisp heath
The whole thing is confusing, it doesn't even need to be there
open marsh
The whole thing is confusing, it doesn't even need to be there
Agreed. delete cadi- oh wait
open marsh
Replace Cadia with Borealum
Kinda what GW is doing. Now that Cadia has been deleted. They are just retconning the entire Imperial Guard to be cadia clones to keep selling their cadian regiment model line
crisp heath
To be fair, theres not much interest in Imperium Guard regiments beyond the major ones like Valhalla. I think people just assume unnotable Guard regiments to have the same equipment and structure as Cadia
cerulean wagon
because most of em do
cerulean wagon
its standard equipment
open marsh
Thats the thing. Even interesting regiments have been removed. Leaving the Cadian model line as almost the only ones made. With any regiments besides them being official kitbashes with other model lines
open marsh
Guard regiments arent being retconned lul
Have....have you not seen the Terran Regiments from the Horus Heresy?
atomic pelican
Relevant regiments
As in, the ones in the rulebooks generally
I think even tallarn still has rules
open marsh
Has rules. But they dont sell the models anymore
atomic pelican
Because thats unfeasible
You want entire lines for every regiment?
Space marine levels ridiculous
open marsh
So again, Cadians (and Catachans) are pretty much your only options. The rest either getting (or have been) squatted. Or retconned
dim totem
well, kitbashing is fun
open marsh
And trying to say "standard equipment" is not helping the case. Since the IG's big thing is the impossibility of "standarization"
atomic pelican
The entire thing of most 'chapters' of the factipn is a paintjob
open marsh
Yes, because there isnt a whole lot of space marines
open marsh
1,000 chapters of 1,000 marines (roughly). So around 1,000,000 marines
crisp heath
Okay, what's the point
open marsh
Okay, what's the point
Thats less than there are in the U.S. military
crisp heath
So
open marsh
Not hard to standardize them
The IG is a different story. since there are so many of them that the Administrium isnt even sure how many regiments there even are
atomic pelican
I wasnt talking abt litsral chapters. I meant faction variants
You dont see us nid gamers complaining that every hivefleet doesnt have its own termagant variant modeled lul
crisp heath
Why do all the IG regiments have Lemun Russ tanks and valkyries? There is some standardization
open marsh
Know what. fine. you want everyone to be cadians.
crisp heath
They don't have to be Canadians
dim totem
play nice ok
atomic pelican
😳
open marsh
shrug people dont like a faction having anything interesting
crisp heath
Aren't the sisters of battle in the millions too, why are all their equipment standardized?
open marsh
Aren't the sisters of battle in the millions too, why are all their equipment st...
When did you get into 40k? Which edition?
crisp heath
0 Edition
open marsh
Cause I get the feeling you arent aware of how diverse the Ig used to be
crisp heath
I know they say its diverse
cerulean wagon
they still are
open marsh
they still are
Yeah. some paint their cadian armour red
https://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2012/12/9/439536-Artwork%2C Imperial Guard%2C Retro Review.jpg
atomic pelican
that's literally how every other faction's variations work
open marsh
^how they used to be
atomic pelican
except space marines
crisp heath
Did they have all their own models too
open marsh
https://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2012/12/9/439541-Artwork%2C Imperial Guard%2C Retro Review.jpg
crisp heath
Or did you just colour them a different colour
atomic pelican
Most were kitbash guides
cerulean wagon
there were a few unique models boreale
still are
but most were kitbashes
and are still in the rulebook
atomic pelican
A important thing to note Boreale is that
open marsh
Ye, but they have been forgotten for the most part. With authors and artists just using cadians and cadian look-alikes
atomic pelican
Regiments and factionv ariations like that derive from rules wanting variations in how to play your faction
Tyranids have hivefleets for example
Guard has regiments
Space marines have chapters
Usually, these are just paint jobs
Infact they pretty much are just paintjobs 99% of the time
The exception are space marines
open marsh
What I was saying earlier about the retcons is that the Terran Regiments used to look like this
crisp heath
Are you just saying that models can be painted differently
atomic pelican
Yes.
open marsh
But now just look like Cadians
atomic pelican
Pretty much
crisp heath
Already knew that, thanks tutorial
atomic pelican
omegalul
crisp heath
open marsh
Standardized
atomic pelican
damn
cerulean wagon
open marsh
crisp heath
*Standardized*
I cant believe Queen Elizabeth is still colonizing the Galaxy in 40k
open marsh
I cant believe Queen Elizabeth is still colonizing the Galaxy in 40k
Its the British. What did you expect
I love these guys.
Dieprian regiment
dim totem
oh yeah, that looks cool
open marsh
To throw GW a bone. One of their newer regiments shown in 8e codex is cool. I want them to use these guys more:
barren tapir
I think that the vetrillian have models too
open marsh
I think that the vetrillian have models too
Pretty sure those are kitbashes. Good ones tho
Like "official" kitbashes
barren tapir
What I was saying earlier about the retcons is that the Terran Regiments used to...
Also i would like to point out that this image is refer to one of the old one hundred, terran regiments that had the honour to keep serving the emperor after the unification war
barren tapir
But now just look like Cadians
This seem to be a new regiment, it make sense that they didn't have a "special" armour as they haven't had any history that would explain that armour
crisp heath
Italians
open marsh
Also i would like to point out that this image is refer to one of the old one hu...
Yeah but it was how the Terran Regiments always use to look. They were designed based on British Royal Guard. And then given various colors of winter coat and styles of hat to represent where on terra they were recruited
crisp heath
Looking fuzzy
barren tapir
I think that regiment was the tupelov lancers
dim totem
isn't that just a vostroyan though?
barren tapir
Nope
In fact the last image is used to indicate the common trooper of the imperial army of the great crusade era
open marsh
isn't that just a vostroyan though?
dim totem
yh i know what the guard looks like
open marsh
"MAKE WAY FOR THE TERRAN GUARD!"
crisp heath
Imagine fighting Tyranids with a 8 foot tall fuzzy hat on your head
open marsh
Imagine fighting Tyranids with a 8 foot tall fuzzy hat on your head
40k AF
dim totem
madrobotminiatures has some decent approximations if youre not too lazy to kitbash
open marsh
But unfortunately. like I pointed out. all Terran Regiments now just look like Cadians
hardy elbow
Yes
dim totem
crisp heath
What I was saying earlier about the retcons is that the Terran Regiments used to...
They just look like regular guard with just the Valhalla hat
barren tapir
But unfortunately. like I pointed out. all Terran Regiments now just look like C...
This is plainly disinformation... We have some description of them, and they don't look like cadian at all... Models are one thing, in lore appearance is another
open marsh
They just look like regular guard with just the Valhalla hat
Look above at the earlier image I posted
open marsh
bad artists doesnt mean its being replaced
Its more than 1 image
All the guardsman are terran regiments after the retcons
barren tapir
These are the malcador's chosen, who always used that version of armour (The original message was only "these are the maclador's chosen", i then edited it to add the fact that they always used that pattern of armour, i write this so people may understand better the discussion)
barren tapir
At least the image with dorn was a better apprach, as there we can see effectively different "guards", but the malcador's chosen always used that pattern of armour, so much that i saw old discussion that it was that they were the inspiration for the cadians
barren tapir
Nice edit, btw
Thanks, i had to correct malcador name and decided to add something more
But please, keep to try to disregard others arguments attacking the person and not their idea
primal tide
It's their brand
barren tapir
I remember there is a in lore explaination, but only for officers
crisp heath
Isn't invisible helmets a thing
primal tide
Their skulls are fortified
barren tapir
Like something about their trust in their soldiers that would eliminate any danger
open marsh
At least the image with dorn was a better apprach, as there we can see effective...
If thats the case, thats fair
crisp heath
Weird thing is that other Space Marines, as well as Imperial Guard and Sisters half of them charge into battle without a helmet
cerulean wagon
Like something about their trust in their soldiers that would eliminate any dang...
i can see it be that, that was an old officer thing for ww1/2
"you cannot duck in combat for it may discourage the men"
crisp heath
It could be a way to show that they're main characters
Or have plot armour
Instead of helmets
open marsh
But please, keep to try to disregard others arguments attacking the person and n...
That can apply to alot of people in the chat. Like those who call me dilusional .
barren tapir
That can apply to alot of people in the chat. Like those who call me dilusional ...
True, but at that time you were the one that was doing that
dim totem
play nice ok
barren tapir
And saying that others do that doesn't mean that is a right thing to do
open marsh
And saying that others do that doesn't mean that is a right thing to do
All I said was "nice edit"
because i agreed with your original statement, and then you changed it
crisp heath
Battle Brothers do not give into the foul hatred of Chaos
atomic pelican
CSM vanish from existence
dim totem
csm?
atomic pelican
Chaos space marines
open marsh
Damned CSM jumppacks
barren tapir
Poor dieprian mountain men... They were named so by big e himself... And now their world has been conquered by the tau
open marsh
Also looking at the lexicanum entry for Malcador's chosen. It cites Collected Visions page "362" as its source on the regiment
dim totem
Damned CSM jumppacks
open marsh
Collected Visions only has 361 pages
rotund siren
lol
dim totem
lol
open marsh
I mean page 362 is just artwork
of Horus
It continues on page 364
Cause like. Im trying to find the actual info on them
open marsh
Amazon say that it has 413 pages...
I clarified myself.
dim totem
open marsh
Page "362" is the start of the image of the duel between Horus and Big E
atomic pelican
new guard designs slated for 2024 release
barren tapir
I clarified myself.
Ok, it wouldn't be the first time there is a typo in page number
rotund siren
afflicted by the warp
dim totem
- the new warhammer themed minecraft spinoff:
open marsh
yeah, but unfortunately. Until the proper citation is found, the info isnt usable
dim totem
warcraft?
open marsh
hence why Im looking
rotund siren
warpcraft
atomic pelican
Going through the warp and ending up in minecraft
dim totem
minehammer
rotund siren
"Uhhh, captain, I think our Gellar field broke?"
dim totem
quick get the diamonds or something
cerulean wagon
Captain making mincecraft eating sounds as he holds a piece of bread
dim totem
the chaos forces have built makeshift cannons out of rocks, tnt blocks and water
what i don't understand is
how can earth be bereft of water if the emperor could just
barren tapir
yeah, but unfortunately. Until the proper citation is found, the info isnt usabl...
Try these pages: 64, 118-123, 180, 303, 361
dim totem
craft a shovel, dig a 2x2 hole, fill it with water on two opposing corners and voila infinite water
open marsh
page 64 is the proper terran Regiment beef eater image
barren tapir
Beef eater?
open marsh
barren tapir
Ah, those
open marsh
(and yes I know the Yeoman have different uniforms from the other royal guard, but this is funnier)
barren tapir
I have no idea what you are talking about, but ok
open marsh
More proper Terran regiment on 119
dim totem
what are those insignias?
open marsh
Some regiment that looks like Tallarns on 180
from 303. Not sure whats going on with these guys
they look like
oAo
barren tapir
from 303. Not sure whats going on with these guys
Szadek legion iirc
dim totem
Szadek legion iirc
you some sort of encyclopedia?
crisp heath
They look like Armageddon and Krieg combined
barren tapir
you some sort of encyclopedia?
No, i like the imperial guard and imperial army, and i memorized much of their names and appearance
crisp heath
They look cool
dim totem
No, i like the imperial guard and imperial army, and i memorized much of their n...
that's fair, can you point out what that insignia is on 119? i'm reallyi curious
it looks like the chaos star thing but they don't look like cultists to me
open marsh
Likely a regimental or national symbol from the spot on terra they are from
barren tapir
IIRC they come from ursh
open marsh
yeah
dim totem
that's interesting
open marsh
hence the "Urslavik" name
dim totem
i steer away from a lot of third party bits bc of badly copied aquilas and what not but seeing something different is interesting
barren tapir
Urslavic 12th infantry yeah
open marsh
I wonder if they still wear addidas and track suits under their coats
crisp heath
It says Nisr on the text above the image though
dim totem
archaeofabrics are only for the wealthiest and noblest
barren tapir
from 303. Not sure whats going on with these guys
Ah, it wasn't szadek's legion, it was sadek's fighters...
open marsh
archaeofabrics are only for the wealthiest and noblest
Eh. probably still have massive stocks of it in ursh
crisp heath
Just sweatpants?
dim totem
i also own a shirt
barren tapir
Ah, it wasn't szadek's legion, it was sadek's fighters...
To be more exact that was the unoffcial name, the official name was fasadian 45th infantry
open marsh
Anyway I cant find any info on Malcador's Chosen in collected visions. Im checking my other art books (like Visions of Heresy volumes 1 & 2) to see if it was just listed as the wrong book
barren tapir
Some regiment that looks like Tallarns on 180
While these seems to be fasadian 4th infantry
dim totem
those are so cool
barren tapir
And one of their general was named Bollivar... Really GW really??!!
open marsh
Some regiment that looks like Tallarns on 180
these guys
barren tapir
They are still fasadian, but from the 4th regiment
dim totem
https://wh40k.lexicanum.com/mediawiki/images/f/f6/Fasadian.jpg
they don't look too difficult to kitbash either
crisp heath
I like how they dont even wear armor
dim totem
the head is gonna be all kinds of fucky but that's it
barren tapir
I like how they dont even wear armor
That is their armour
Flak armour, but still armour
crisp heath
worn dagger
Where are you going to get the human faces they obviously use as flesh masks lol
barren tapir
Like the valhallan ones, their armour is the greatcoat
dim totem
i'd just get like
crisp heath
That's clothes not armour
barren tapir
Or how the mordian have what looks like a parade dress uniform, but it is in reality their armour
dim totem
a death corps head and do ... something with the face
crisp heath
Great coat isn't going to stop more than a flashlight
barren tapir
That's clothes not armour
Eh, not really
barren tapir
That's clothes not armour
In fact many regiments have those two mixed into one thing
open marsh
So gotta remove that info from the lexicanum
crisp heath
How are you going to put a coat on if theres armour blocking the buttons
worn dagger
a death corps head and do ... something with the face
Jokes aside you could prob take a Krieg head and smooth out the surface with greenstuff/miliput to give it that scooby doo mask look.
dim totem
yeah, but you know, fucky
barren tapir
So gotta remove that info from the lexicanum
Shouldn't be better to ask if anyone had anything to do with that? I imagine that others have controlled that
dim totem
im not that good with greenstuff... yet!
barren tapir
How are you going to put a coat on if theres armour blocking the buttons
The armour and the coat are one and the same
open marsh
Shouldn't be better to ask if anyone had anything to do with that? I imagine tha...
Its the lexicanum. If Im am wrong, it wont be long before someone corrects me
crisp heath
Not very good armour then...
barren tapir
Not very good armour then...
Good enough i would say, not carapace level armour for sure
open marsh
That's clothes not armour
The way its usually explained is that they either wear the armour under their coats, or their coat is made of a special material that gives protection equal to atleast flak armour
They call them flak coats
open marsh
Shouldn't be better to ask if anyone had anything to do with that? I imagine tha...
Oh wait, you mean permissions?
Im an editor on the lexicanum
A frequent one
barren tapir
Oh wait, you mean permissions?
No, not permissions, like if someone putted that number probably it was someone that checked it before, and may give some insight
open marsh
open marsh
No, not permissions, like if someone putted that number probably it was someone ...
again. if i am wrong somehow. even if I have already shown that information is not where it is cited, then it will be corrected by someone who has the proper citation. if it exists
Like. bothering to find the proper citation is a nice thing. But its not a requirement. If information has a citiation, and you look exactly where that citation says, and the information is not there. You remove the information. Thats standard policy.
dim totem
question
dont they release like appendices after books like that
like oh shit we messed up the page reference here, this actually doesn't exist
bc the page were referring to was cut but we didnt remove the reference
open marsh
bc the page were referring to was cut but we didnt remove the reference
in official books. yes. But this is dealing with a wiki
dim totem
oh, i thought you were taking pictures from your physical copy or something
open marsh
I was, showing that the wiki's citation is wrong
dim totem
oh, right
open marsh
heh. read about some Kroot who ate some Catachans
They were noted as becoming rowdier. Harder to control. And started wearing red bandanas
Cytheria became largely pacified. Recently however, I have received a number of disturbing reports. The kroot increasingly refuse to obey the orders of their tau superiors and have taken to wearing red scarves around their foreheads. They speak in the gue’la language when they think no one is listening.
barren tapir
Lol, catachans are indeed precious, even their genes are superior
Make me wonder if they too will become something that kroot don't eat
open marsh
Lol, catachans are indeed precious, even their genes are superior
What freaked the Tau commander out is the Kroot leader started calling him by the same name that the Catachan leader did
barren tapir
Even in death catachans still keep messing up with their enemies
open marsh
‘Shas’o Rra,’ he panted. ‘I guess… I was wrong to… to call you that.’
‘No,’ I responded. ‘As it happens, you weren’t.’
I did not turn away as they ate him.```
```...in my subsequent conversations with Shaper Awl, he has begun calling calling me Shas’o Rra.```Truly, the best would be a blank catachan and the galaxy will feel fear forever
Also, kroot are fucking scary
open marsh
They are what happens if you combined Orkz with Nids
barren tapir
The question is was the wrong name shas'o rra?
barren tapir
Spooky kroot is spooky
storm jungle
Yeah,. because risking allowing another chaos outbreak is an amazing idea
Im late but no purging people that know of chaos doesnt make sense still
barren tapir
Especially since they now seem to prefer the human language
open marsh
Im late but no purging people that know of chaos doesnt make sense still
Dont pull a Deceiver. We are past that
open marsh
^
storm jungle
shrugs
barren tapir
I used the same gif that Dilara used, please notice that
visual pumice
fail
open marsh
I was rubbing my eye and read that as "Dillard's"
storm jungle
All I'll say is if it was 40M or something at least by then the lore was still dormant so them trying to supress chaos is kinda understandable
now considering the entirety of the imperium is being besieged by Dabbawubdon's forces its kinda dumb lol
but hey its 40k so beats me
barren tapir
It would be nice if GW settle the "how much people know about chaos and the warp" at least now that the cicatrix is pretty much in every sky of every planet
But GW will be GW and make nothing reasonable
open marsh
Most of humanity is kept in the dark about Chaos. they are told its either not real. or that the daemons are xenos
cerulean wagon
too busy pushing garbage GK lore to have it make sense
need those unnecessary purges that it even states slowed their attempts to remove the demons because they were purging units that were activley fighting
open marsh
If you want an example of what happens when you dont execute those who have encountered Chaos, read Plague War
7 Guardsmans. out of tens of thousands. were all it took to destroy the planet of Iax
storm jungle
Thats the thing though, chaos literally spreads anyway because the lore actively says the living condition of the Imperium is terrible.
I really doubt some witnesses speed up the process if at all
cerulean wagon
also
people site uhh
guardsmans primer as lore for what they know and can be executed for
the chaos gods are mentioned in it
as things they activley know
open marsh
Thats the thing though, chaos literally spreads anyway because the lore actively...
the guardsmen I just mentioned werent even cultists. They were just infected with Chaos without even knowing it and started the outbreak on Iax that turned it into a dead world
barren tapir
7 Guardsmans. out of tens of thousands. were all it took to destroy the planet o...
Eh, afaik even a single person can doom an entire world, but all the others xxxxxx people could still be used for fighting
open marsh
Eh, afaik even a single person can doom an entire world, but all the others xxxx...
Yeah, but the thing is: Which 1 of those people are the infected one?
barren tapir
the guardsmen I just mentioned werent even cultists. They were just infected wit...
That is different than seeing and fighting chaos then...
I mean, that make sense when talking about fighting nurgle, and i know that in some cases regiments have been quarantined until they got screened for that kind of stuff
open marsh
I mean, that make sense when talking about fighting nurgle, and i know that in s...
They were quarentined and screened. But this wasnt a run of the mill disease
barren tapir
But going full on purge because they fought, and won, against daemons.... Eeeeehhh, that seems a stretch to me
cerulean wagon
its got worse blank
they activley purge them as they are still fighting the demons
open marsh
But going full on purge because they fought, and won, against daemons.... Eeeeeh...
Ive seen what happens when they dont do that. Its usally not worth the risk
cerulean wagon
so its not even post combat
open marsh
It sucks. But its necessary
cerulean wagon
its just run through and shoot everyone
barren tapir
they activley purge them as they are still fighting the demons
I'm pretty sure that we will see a retcon like the one with GK and sisters for their blood
cerulean wagon
we live in hope but this is new lore from current edition stuff
so wont be for a while
barren tapir
Like the retcon with the indomitus crusade?
How much it took? A week? And they pretty much retconnected the entire crusade setting
open marsh
They just retconned it from being 112 years into the crusade to just 12 years
open marsh
When you hurt your neck, but you still have to purge heretics
dim totem
"let me just look over that way" turns entire body to one side
open marsh
She is wearing the cone of shame
barren tapir
Sadly they were the heretics... But not that person, she was executed by a son of horus SM
serene jungle
Why the sword
open marsh
Why not
dim totem
wu tang leans into martial arts lyrics a lot
coarse mirage
now considering the entirety of the imperium is being besieged by Dabbawubdon's ...
GOTTA MAKE IT GRIMMER AND DARKER
placid timber
Wutang for life @dim totem 
dim totem
Wutang for life <@202462916027351050> <:zubatEZ:415539913300115457>
en gerde, i'll let you try my wu tang style
crisp heath
Know No Fear rocks
rose thorn
Hey, can a tech priest contract the Flayer Virus?
vast frigate
technically, they cant
as it has to do with necron coding
But, ive not seen it stated impossible,. as necron code can corrupt humans with augmetics
rose thorn
But, ive not seen it stated impossible,. as necron code can corrupt humans with ...
Do you think a Xenarite priest possible could? Since they primarily use xeno tech such as Necron tech
open marsh
It happened once
vast frigate
it also seems like it needs a ''nesting'' so it can oinly exist if a necron component is attached to that chadmechian
rose thorn
I heard there was something about ruststalkers contracting it
But the person I heard that from never followed up on
vast frigate
The Flayer Virus spreads through contact with the living metal skin of the Necrons. In one bizarre case, Adeptus Mechanicus Tech-Priests experimenting with living metal became infected with the Flayer Virus and engaged in self-mutilation and worship of Llandu'gor.
open marsh
Ive heard nothing about ruststalkers getting it. But a tech-priest experimenting with infected necrodermis caught it
crisp heath
crisp heath
me on da left
gaunt vector
the plot twist when the Tyranids actually arrive
tawdry walrus
smoky breach
Any reason for those spikes on the backpack?
rotund siren
holy hand grenade
coarse mirage
Any reason for those spikes on the backpack?
Chaos wants to know your location
open marsh
Any reason for those spikes on the backpack?
More religious groups in the Imperium tend to use spikey bits
primal tide
Fucker stole an iron warriors chainblade
smoky breach
Ah, for an hour or two I thought the empire wasn't inhabited by fanatics.
open marsh
he has a serious spike fetish
Dont be like Cath
open marsh
Or the factions already had lots of spikey bits
storm jungle
Alright 1 sec
open marsh
I will agree the spikes on the gorget are out of place
storm jungle
open marsh
fair enough
storm jungle
Yeah Im not hating on the factions sorry, but JESUS this artist
open marsh
You win this time, Gadget!
storm jungle
Hehehe
but yeah its really a minor complaint its still cool but a bit funny
chaos is ALLOWED to get all the spikes!
vagrant osprey
The fuck is up with that pauldron?
Is that an eagle carrying a sea urchin with spike cancer?
rotund siren
but there's gotta be a limit
crisp heath
Based Anathema Psykana
storm jungle
no
crisp heath
What? Sisters of Silence are great
And it's a crime not enough people know their High Gothic name
open marsh
What? Sisters of Silence are great
Dilara mostly has a problem with the particular artist depiction
Too many spikes
crisp heath
But...spikes :<
crisp heath
Good for headbutting
primal tide
And no torpedo boob either, is this artist even trying
open marsh
Like wtf are these even?
crisp heath
To be fair, that was more a 3rd edition pewter mold making tech thing
Anatomy is easier to do with CAD
primal tide
Like wtf are these even?
Cloyster mega evolution
worn dagger
I think those are winged people with swords & or spears
storm jungle
Yeah I like his art but the artist was obviously picked because of the spike fetish.
Its excessive as shit.
lmao
crisp heath
I feel like if Blanche hadn't worked on 40k it wouldn't have been nearly as aesthetically memorable as it is today
zinc snow
Its excessive as shit.
Nothing says 40k quite like excessiveness
open marsh
I feel like if Blanche hadn't worked on 40k it wouldn't have been nearly as aest...
Not calling it a bad thing. You know me. But damn Blanche
open marsh
Nothing says 40k quite like excessiveness
Slaanesh approves this message
zinc snow
I mean, sure that guy has a spike fetish. But how many 40k artists have a skull fetish?
crisp heath
We've discussed it before elsewhere but I respect a guy who's honest about inserting what he likes in his work rather than dancing around it with excuses
open marsh
Yup
crisp heath
glares at a certain Black Library author
open marsh
I mean, sure that guy has a spike fetish. But how many 40k artists have a skull ...
The Emperor does. almost as canon. Since its a cultural tradition from his original tribe
zinc snow
He also has a gold fetish too
open marsh
....who doesnt
zinc snow
True
crisp heath
I prefer black but that's just me
open marsh
Even Dorn. Mr. Plano McBorning Man (unless you actually read his lore)
Had fully golden armour
The Auric Armour
zinc snow
Man. His armor is awesome.
crisp heath
All his brothers have these bullshit anime weapons and he's just got a really big chainsword
open marsh
He is that anime trope where a character can only use the most basic moves. But uses them to such a high level that he can shit on the others who use more "advanced" moves
zinc snow
Sanguinius also had golden armor.
open marsh
yup
Im suddenly reminds of when i used to play Final Fantasy 1. I didnt how to really play. and one of my characters was a monk. well I didnt know how he worked, really. So the best weapon I could find for him, even late in the game, was nunchucks. So he could outclassed quick. Especially as the rest of the part got ultimate weapons and whatnot.
i cant remember why, may have been on accident. But I unequipped his nunchucks.
fucker was suddenly throwing hands so fast and hard he was doing almost twice as much damage as my fighter who had the ultimate weapon for his class
zinc snow
You removed the limiters.
crisp heath
Yall im sorry to interrupt but I just got to the part of Know No Fear where ||Guilliman survives the vacuum of space and kills 4 word bearers with his bare hands||
open marsh
Yall im sorry to interrupt but I just got to the part of Know No Fear where ||Gu...
Yeah. Thats a primarch
zinc snow
Primarchs are pretty insane.
crisp heath
so awesome
open marsh
People give Guilliman shit becuase "hurr. memes say big blueberry bad"
They forget.
He is a fucking Primarch
zinc snow
Nah Girlyman is pretty okay. But his Chapter sucks. His Legion on the other hand were also cool like Grandpa Smurf.
open marsh
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/439604071557496842/833794573003653221/u...
These facts. They are harsh. But they are true.
crisp heath
every wolfpack needs a chad
we will hate the chad
but still hes chad
😂
thats guilliman and the ultras
zinc snow
Well to be fair. A key word there is "Their empire" because you know, the UM's basically constantly boarder on heresy all the time by always playing with the concept of their own empire.
open marsh
Well to be fair. A key word there is "Their empire" because you know, the UM's b...
eh. thats a meme.
When Guilliman did make Imperium Secundas. The Emperor gave it the A-Okay
zinc snow
Didn't Guilliman make Secundas because he couldn't contact the empire and just assumed Terra already fell, because warp storms?
open marsh
Yep
He couldnt contact terra, and he couldnt escape to go check
So he prepared for the worst case scenerio
zinc snow
Yeah so I wouldn't say he had the A-okay. More like "I've gone a day without hearing from dad. Guess I'm man of the house now."
open marsh
And when he did get verifcation that Terra, thus the Imperium, still stood. He immediately abolished Imperium Secundas
open marsh
Yeah so I wouldn't say he had the A-okay. More like "I've gone a day without hea...
No Big E really did A-Okay it
zinc snow
Huh I don't recall that part.
open marsh
Ill get the excerpt
crisp heath
He also didnt decide he was the man of the house, he made Sanguinius the man
And he hated every second of it
open marsh
'Why does he not make haste for Terra?'
Sweat ran down Malcador’s back at the strain of maintaining this connection. ‘There are… unsettling rumours of what is happening in Guilliman’s domain.’
'I cannot see the Five Hundred Worlds. Why is that?'
‘We call it the Ruinstorm. Nemo and I believe the slaughter on Calth to have been part of an orchestrated chain of events that precipitated the birth of a catastrophic and impenetrable warp storm.’
'And what do you believe Roboute is doing?'
‘It’s Guilliman, what do think he’s doing? He’s building an empire.’```To be fair. The alternative of letting Sanguinius be the leader, was have the Lion beat his ass for it. But also who wouldn't let him lead. Everyone loved Sanguinius.
open marsh
Also I love this in the excerpt
‘So the Wolf King says, my lord. It seems the warriors of the Lion stand with us after all.’
'You doubted them? The First? Even after all they accomplished in the time before the others took up their swords?'```The Emperor is actually almost insulted that anyone, even Malcador, could question the Loyality of the Lion and his Dark Angels
zinc snow
Yeah
Ironic
This is why I usually make a point of separating the Legions from the Chapters.
As a Legion the Dark Angels were crazy loyal and trustworthy until Luther screwed that up. "Loyalty is it's own reward" and all that.
open marsh
As a Legion the Dark Angels were crazy loyal and trustworthy until Luther screwe...
The Chapter is still loyal. They have just...lost the plot
zinc snow
But as a Chapter in 40k they're basically all a bunch of closet heretics that Team Kill like they were the Inquisition.
open marsh
Their current Supreme Grand Master, Azrael, points it out
He admits they cover stuff up simply to keep what his predecessors did to cover it up covered up
The "Hunt for the Fallen" isnt even about hunting the Fallen anymore. Not really
zinc snow
Yeah, it's a massive catch 22 they've trapped themselves in now.
open marsh
I read the Luther book and it can be possibly tracked down to 1 insane Supreme Grand Master
We dont know what he did. But whatever it was even horrified him to have done it
We just know it involved trying to make friends with Cypher
zinc snow
Oof
crisp heath
What's the point of Cypher as a character
open marsh
What's the point of Cypher as a character
A wild card
crisp heath
What's the point of Cypher as a character
i literally have no idea lol
zinc snow
To be the Dark Angel's goose chase
open marsh
Thats the Fallen in general
Cypher is there just as a wild card. To be able to throw a wrench into anyone and everyone's plans
crisp heath
On the wiki, it seems like Cypher got his geneseed from the Eldar with how much hes playing both sides
Medic, do you think the multiple cypher theory holds any weight?
zinc snow
Yeah as a story telling device he's more or less the perfect foil to the Dark Angels. A guy of very dubious loyalty that in the long run you don't know which side he's going to fall on if the moment ever does come. Much like how the Dark Angels constantly dig themselves a deeper hole with their actions causing doubt in their true loyalties.
crisp heath
The idea that Cypher is just a role numerous people have taken up
open marsh
Medic, do you think the multiple cypher theory holds any weight?
No
He is Zahariel El' Zarius
open marsh
Zahariel was the last person confirmed to hold that title. there is no evidence he has died. And even if he did, the Order is shotgunned across space and time and Luther was captured by the Dark Angels. So there is noone to actually name a new Lord Cypher
crisp heath
🤔
open marsh
Zahariel's artwork also matches his armour (notice the wings on his backpack) to his old model (which was Cypher's current model at the time)
open marsh
Omg the cute chest skeleton
Yeah it was his old design
storm jungle
Look at them both goooo
cloud kindle
Do you think skeleton friend talks to cypher
open marsh
What if Cypher IS the skeleton
storm jungle
Aight i dig it.
open marsh
Doesn't look it at all
crisp heath
ye now that im lookin at the details....
cloud kindle
Guy on the left is me
rotund siren
you?
rotund siren
honestly what the fuck is going on?
like, there are daemons, what might be humans, and harlequins? fighting? and there's a weird pink ghost
crisp heath
He deliberately got his limb dismembered to get a wooden plank
vast frigate
is this a new model?
edgy badge
Yo, i want to get into reading warhammer
is there a sepcific order?
Also im really into space marines and am wondering if there is no specific order
what books revolve around that
crisp heath
is there a sepcific order?
No. Usually there's only a read order for specific series'
If you're just getting into it, I recommend the following:
Eisenhorn trilogy - Good general intro, covers the Inquisition and other topics.
Helsreach - Intro for Space Marines and Imperial Guard with Orks as the antagonists.
Gaunt's Ghosts - Guard focused, long running series.
Watchers of the Throne - Covers recent lore, is all about the Adeptus Custodes and Sisters of Silence
^good assessment
For the Definitive Recent Lore Reading Experience, read the following
Vault's of Terra: The Carrion Throne and The Hollow Mountain, Watchers of the Throne: The Emperor's Legion, Dawn if Fire: Avenging Son, Watchers of the Throne: The Regent's Shadow, Dawn of Fire: The Gate of Bones
In that order
It's three different book series' but they all cut into each other and cover the opening of the Great Rift, Guilliman's return, and the launch of the Indomitus Crusade
edgy badge
Thanks a lot man
crisp heath
👍
crisp heath
It also covers the reveal of the Primaris Space Marines, which we didn't actually get outside background lore in rulebooks until now
peak hamlet
Gon
dim totem
fuk
open marsh
is this a new model?
No its his old model
vast frigate
ah
coarse mirage
Yo, i want to get into reading warhammer
Depends on what you want to read about in regards to it but unless you want to read the Horus Heresy plotline (pre-40k lore) you can pick up any book you want.
open marsh
Yo, i want to get into reading warhammer
Warhammer Fantasy? Warhammer Age of Sigmar, Warhammer 40k? Or Horus Heresy?
vast frigate
necromunda, aeronautica, titanicus
cerulean wagon
adventures
peak hamlet
No its his old model
Im pretty sure this one was the rare black library miniature
Nvm it isn't
rose thorn
hey is there any lore reason that its not common to see admech fuck around with eldar tech?
glass summit
Im not sure, but now I'm thinking about Admechs sneaking into webways
crisp heath
I think it has something to do with their natural abhorrence of advancement
Its the same reason why everyone uses the same guns and equipment for hundreds of years
In lore atleast
glass summit
They love Necron tech
crisp heath
It's not really shown though? Like only Necron tech used by Imperials are the C'tan blade for the Callidus Assassins
rose thorn
yea and ive haerd stories of admech examining ork tech and a tech marine even repairing an ork ship
crisp heath
Ork "tech"
rose thorn
true
coarse mirage
hey is there any lore reason that its not common to see admech fuck around with ...
Because it's nearly impossible to do so
Eldari tech just isn't workable by humans
glass summit
Their goal isn't to advance tech wise but it is to please the machine spirits and to leave their weak flesh
crisp heath
I think theres different factions of the Mechanicus in lore though
crisp heath
I meant more as in as there are different types of inquisitors like Puritan and radical
One supports advancement, the other conservative
glass summit
I see
crisp heath
It's not really shown though? Like only Necron tech used by Imperials are the C'...
What faction are the Assassins in in the tabletop game? Can you just include them in any Imperium force?
potent swift
The Admech disdain psyker stuff in general and a lot Craftworld tech requires a psyker to use so it's probably a non starter most of the time.
crisp heath
You need someone to be able to play the flute for the wraithbone to work
I dont think Tech Priests are good musicians
...Because Bonesingers????
rose thorn
damn, i wanted to make an admech heretek army that basically uses a shit load of eldar tech but im not sure if it will make sense lore wise
crisp heath
Do it if you want too
A obscure fringe world Heretek army that uses weaponry from a conquered Craftworld
rose thorn
yea thats what i was basically thinking off
cloud kindle
every time i see admech and eldar i cant help but think of the speranza
wicked ship
fuck it ill link the excerpt cause its cool
**The flanks of the Speranza shuddered as a weapon system built into its superstructure ground upwards on heavy duty rails. A vast gun tube rose from the angled planes of the Ark Mechanicus like the great menhir of some tribal place of worship being lifted into place. Power readouts, the likes of which had rarely been seen in the Imperium since before the wars of Unity, bloomed within the weapon and a pair of circling tori described twisting arcs around the tapered end of the unveiled barrel.
Elements of the technology that had gone into their construction would have been familiar to some of the more esoteric branches of black hole research and relativistic temporal arcana, but their assembled complexity would have baffled even the Fabricator General on Mars. Pulsing streams of purple-hued anti-matter and graviton pumps combined in unknowable ways in the heart of a reactor that drew its power from the dark matter that lurked in the spaces between the stars. It was a gun designed to crack open the stately leviathans of ancient void war, a starship killer that delivered the ultimate coup de grace
Without any command authority from the bridge of the Speranza, the weapon unleashed a silent pulse that covered the distance to the Starblade at the speed of light.**
**But even that wasn’t fast enough to catch a ship as nimble as one built by the bonesingers of BielTan and guided by the prescient sight of a farseer. The pulse of dark energy coalesced a hundred kilometres off the vessel’s stern and a miniature black hole exploded into life, dragging in everything within its reach with howling force. Stellar matter, light and gravity were crushed as they were drawn in and destroyed, and even the Starblade’s speed and manoeuvrability weren’t enough to save it completely as the secondary effect of the weapon’s deadly energies brushed over its solar sail. Chronoweaponry shifted its target a nanosecond into the past, by which time the subatomic reactions within every molecule had shifted microscopically and forced identical neutrons into the same quantum space.
Such a state of being was untenable on a fundamental level, and the resultant release of energy was catastrophic for the vast majority of objects hit by such a weapon. Though on the periphery of the streaming waves of chronometric energy, the Starblade’s solar mast detonated as though its internal structure had been threaded with explosive charges. The sail tore free of the ship, ghost images of its previous existence flickering as the psycho-conductive wraithbone screamed in its death throes. Blue flame geysered from the topside of the eldar vessel and the craft lurched away from the force of the blast.
Its previously distorted and fragmentary outline became solid, and the circling captains of the Kotov Fleet wasted no time in loosing salvo after salvo of torpedoes at the newly revealed warship**
dense glen
The only time the AdMech fuck around with "new" stuff is when the situation desperately calls for it. They then make the Ordinatus devices use them once and then leave them the fuck alone because it is literally heretical for them to do that, but sometimes needs must
storm jungle
hey is there any lore reason that its not common to see admech fuck around with ...
Mechanicus as far as i can understand can mess around with anything
but you could only probably get away with it if its smaller conclaves doing their own thing most of the time since nobody would pay close attention to those
cerulean wagon
admech never do anything new
ignore the returning grav tech and primaris tho
and "rediscovered" tech
crisp heath
ignore the returning grav tech and primaris tho
You act like 90% of the Admech haven't put a hit out on Cawl over that
cerulean wagon
damn, i wanted to make an admech heretek army that basically uses a shit load of...
if its heretek then ye lore wise its fine
crisp heath
Only reason he wasn't killed already is because Guilliman needs him
And even Guilliman doesn't like him
cerulean wagon
Cawl isnt the only one that makes new tech and gets away with it
Theres plenty of admech branches that fiddle with new tech or integrating/reverse engineering xeno tech
And either hide it under inquisitorial assistance or simply claim they found it in a recent crusade
barren tapir
damn, i wanted to make an admech heretek army that basically uses a shit load of...
Take a look at Stygies VIII and the xenarite faction
open marsh
damn, i wanted to make an admech heretek army that basically uses a shit load of...
Yeah. what Van Saar said. The Xenarites are a radical, borderline heretek (often cross the line into outright tech heresy) faction of the Mechanicus who use xenos tech. Usually Eldar, Necron, and Tau tech
barren tapir
They have a particular interest in eldar tech, since their forge world (Styges VIII) was saved by eldar during the horus betrayal... And that is also why that world is full of xenarite... So much that skirmishes between deathwatch kill teams and tech priest are quite common
open marsh
They have a particular interest in eldar tech, since their forge world (Styges V...
Depends on the subsect of the Xenarites
Xenarites like Magos Scaevola focus on Necron tech
rose thorn
They have a particular interest in eldar tech, since their forge world (Styges V...
saved by Eldar
FUCKING WHAT, THATS INSANE, I thought they fucked with xeno tech because they were so far from other forge worlds. I never knew that they were saved by the Eldar!
rotund siren
that is neat
open marsh
>saved by Eldar
FUCKING WHAT, THATS INSANE, I thought they fucked with xeno tec...
Yeah the Eldar and humanity have teamed up on the reg. With some worlds having full on defense agreements with them
rose thorn
Yeah the Eldar and humanity have teamed up on the reg. With some worlds having f...
wow i never knew that, i thought humanity is still salty about when the eldar kept being assholes preheresy, and that they technically had a chaos god put into existence. I knew about a few team ups but i thought it was like when they teamed up with necrons for a bit to kill some tyranids
open marsh
Nope. Like the Imperial world of Tallarn has an agreement with the Craftworld Biel-tan
vast frigate
Fun fact
A member of the xenarites managed to upload a self perpeptuating necron virus into inquisitorial and deathwatch data banks, which actively removes old and new information on stygiis
gaunt vector
Necronord VPN
open marsh
A member of the xenarites managed to upload a self perpeptuating necron virus in...
Oh I wasnt aware of that one
Sauce?
vast frigate
At work rn
Its on the lex i believe tho
For some ungodly reason
My work blocks 1d4chan
But
Adeptus Mechanicus - 1d4chan
22 Apr 2020 — Stygies VIII responded by unleashing a computer virus that constantly purges the Administratum and the Ordo Xenos' ...
Thats all i could copy
barren tapir
It isn't necron... It is still a self replicating thing that erase all the records