They go from all out war to "Huh, where?"
#40k-lore-chat
coarse mirage
vagrant osprey
The Eldar are not competent.
Once the Old Ones died the Eldar instantly stagnated.
coarse mirage
But the Eldar haven't forgotten how to do anything
gaunt vector
the eldar got carried
coarse mirage
They can literally talk to the dead
vagrant osprey
They haven't forgotten how to do a lot of things
coarse mirage
???
vagrant osprey
They can't talk to the 99% of their population that was eaten
coarse mirage
Not what I ??? at
coarse mirage
They haven't forgotten how to do a lot of things? What does that even mean? Do you know what you're saying?
vagrant osprey
The Eldar absolutely lost technology when Slaanesh was born
coarse mirage
They lost most of their civilization yes
open marsh
The Eldar lost more than humanity did. In comparison:
Humanity just felt the shockwave of the bomb going off
The Eldar were at ground zero
coarse mirage
BUt never have I come across any fluff where Eldar go "Nope, dunno how to use that". It's mostly that they simply don't have any of it left.
gaunt vector
BUt never have I come across any fluff where Eldar go "Nope, dunno how to use th...
they used to have a thing that could create anything that the user could imagine
I think they lost that at least
vagrant osprey
Eldar tech is intent-driven, so no shit they can use anything they find.
It's psycho-reactive
coarse mirage
they used to have a thing that could create anything that the user could imagine
Yeah they physically lost it and the ability to create them.
gaunt vector
oh thats what that means
storm jungle
Thats mostly a plot hole
Its the same as how eldar dont use robots
But they indeed have lost a good portion of their tech yeah
gaunt vector
nah
plucky moth
maybe plot holes is how they navigate the galaxy
rotund siren
hardy har har
but they actually have a technological base to build from
a written history of their stuff to improve off of
barren tapir
Humans have shown that they too can advance, it only take not having contact with the imperium for long time
gaunt vector
pretty much
rotund siren
lol that is true
sinful leaf
Ah, so...post fall, Eldar have to be reallly really careful about having sex, because otherwise slaanesh eats their soul.
storm jungle
^
visual pumice
Epic
rotund siren
"Hello fellow Eldar, I would like to produce children. Would you also like to produce children?" "Yes fellow Eldar, what a good idea. Let us go, produce children."
sinful leaf
If the necrons were mostly sane they'd be a LOT better at booting up their techbase and von-neumanning.
barren tapir
I will just leave this here, to show what humans can do alone:
Just remember what macharius had at his disposal and what he was capable of
storm jungle
If the necrons were mostly sane they'd be a LOT better at booting up their techb...
They are sane
its just plot-armor stopping them half the time otherwise they'd murder everyone
also that and political dynasty drama
visual pumice
Insane would be flayed ones and destroyers to an extent
final spruce
Which are a small quantity
rotund siren
https://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Adrantis_Five
oh yeah, the world where everybody had VR stuff, basically, right? with lots of robo servants and whatnot
final spruce
Its just that necrons fear them because they thought the life transference made them immortal
sinful leaf
Insane would be flayed ones and destroyers to an extent
Ah. I guess you could call some of the necrons sane by the standards of 40k, so there's that.
barren tapir
oh yeah, the world where everybody had VR stuff, basically, right? with lots of ...
No, that was the olamic quietude during the great crusade
barren tapir
There are extremely scarce info about adrantis five
final spruce
I mean most necrons are unthinking machines
barren tapir
but yet more proof then, no?
Of what?
sinful leaf
But there's still a lot of coding degredation going on that cripples the necrons, last I knew, even for the ones that got a decent biotransferance package.
final spruce
But the higher you go the more intelligence and memory from their old time they kept
Yeah even overlords can succumb to the flayer virus or the destroyer sickness
Crusade mode even has rules for that
visual pumice
They talk about it mechanicus a little
Higher the food chain, more free will
Warriors don’t get to think for themselves or control their actions
final spruce
Seems to be in line with that the 9th edition codex says
visual pumice
I don’t know how much fluff has changed with them tbh
Biggest one is the destroyer thing
final spruce
Also the warrios being unthinking is actually detrimental to the necrons, since it means they usually notice the destroyer sickness too late aswell
And since necrons that hang too much with destroyers tend to develop the disease ... there is a risk
visual pumice
Same with flayed ones
I think it says where the flayed virus came from though
Where as the destoyer has only just become wider spread
final spruce
Yeah Imotek says that he noticed the destroyer sickness seemed to be more widespread because of a default in their awakening protocols
Which meant some necrons just awoken, were unlucky and slowly descended into Destroyer madness
visual pumice
They see alot more merit in destroyers aswell it seems
open marsh
Eldar dont reproduce fast. Its why they are dying out slowly
sinful leaf
Certainly post-fall they don't.
I'm not sure if they ever reproduced quickly...but it's a safe bet it was a lot faster pre-fall what with having more sex.
open marsh
Even then. The Old Ones designed them to reproduce very slowly. Its really hard for them to concieve.
coarse mirage
Could you tell me where that information is from or even show it to me?
open marsh
Because they used to be able to basically respawn after death
Old Ones didnt want a population crisis
coarse mirage
Yeah
final spruce
They see alot more merit in destroyers aswell it seems
They seem to respect them because they are powerful,however they tend to ostracize them and let them alone with ther cult, main issues being they cannot be ordered around in combat making them a wildcard + the risk of becoming one if you hang around them too much
crisp heath
Did Perturabo really learn how to speak ork?
peak hamlet
Some kinda perverted low gothic?
This i guess
It took humanity pretty long to develop languages so i guess the orks just copy their local language
odd sparrow
language is always annoying with this stuff
unless ur tolkien who can just create languages out of thin air, it's usually sorta weird to even clarify what language x faction or race speaks when it's all just gonna be an irl one in text anyways
odd sparrow
i'd like, imagine that orks probs have their own unique language? my hc would be like, seeing as their understanding of technology and all is coded into their dna it stands to reason that their means of communication would be too
orks are way older than humans, had to have been speaking smthn
summer niche
Could just me some wierd telepathic understanding too
odd sparrow
ye that too
odd sparrow
inb4 they all have different languages but ork communication usually just boils down to shouting, shooting and violence anyways
so there's not much difficulty understanding what someone means in any case
summer niche
odd sparrow
ight that git just krumped da warboss so i assume he wants us to fight for him
no fuckin clue what he's saying but
barren tapir
Orks indeed have a proper language, and they can learn other ones in an instinctive way... They are the instinct race, they are also the only one that could also understand neron tech, if given a waaagh big enough and enough time to tinker with it i think
We also know that they can learn, or maybe it would be better to say they instinctively start speaking like they always did high gothic, as shown during the war of the beast
summer niche
i'm not sure understand is the correct word in this case
they'll defi incorporate it into their stuff
but is it really understanding when it comes to ork tekboys?
i know it's semantics don't take it the wrong way, i understood what you meant perfectly
i just enjoy talking about orks
instinctual understanding i suppose
barren tapir
As long they go with instinct yes, they understand how tech work... Sure, it is also belief for them, but for them to believe something will work the tek must also think he understand how that tech work
summer niche
yeah that works
that is so funny though
tekboys believe so much in their own techyness
is there any good writeup on orks?
i kinda wanna get to know them better, but it's hard to parse the actually orkiness from the memes
barren tapir
IIRC there is a book, brutally kunning, that show them and is regarded as a good book
cloud kindle
orkz are great
final spruce
Mekboys ya gits
cloud kindle
all orkz are valid
final spruce
He's da tekiest ork that krafts da big dakkas un makes da dakka bigger da more orks joins da WAAAAAAAAGHH
cloud kindle
and then nearly started a civil war because of it
trying to warp mars out of the sol system
kind dove
What’s hilarious that meks will build bombs and shit into their tech just to watch other orks kaboom lol
tiny nova
If you want ork knowledge just look at the different codicies across editions, dakka squadron is also a good read
dim totem
wuz iz nolidge
coarse mirage
What’s hilarious that meks will build bombs and shit into their tech just to wat...
I thought you said they shit into their tech.
kind dove
I think they leave that to the Mad Docs
coarse mirage
wuz iz nolidge
IS WHEN YOU GET SMURT!
kind dove
It’s finkin in red
plucky moth
doesn't finkin in red just make you stupid faster
coarse mirage
doesn't finkin in red just make you stupid *faster*
jagged aurora
this is beyond scuffed
anybody else wish we had full character customization instead of careers
azure vault
Has it been confirmed were getting careers? I thought we haven't had confirmation yet.
plucky moth
nothing confirmed as of yet
all we know is Darktide is an epic dark fantasy done right. A hero collecting turn based game with over 400 champions to collect and customize
azure vault
ah good 🙂 Thanks for the info
rotund siren
fuck yooooooouuuuuuu /j
plucky moth
grim sequoia
coarse mirage
anybody else wish we had full character customization instead of careers
We're thinking we might get customization for Darktide.
But considering they're keeping very quiet, I think they don't want us to expect anything.
vast frigate
or they want us to be surprised by the super awesome hidden ogryn in power armor supplied by the t'au empire, armed by the eldar!
azure vault
but classes can be cool if done well
jagged aurora
I just wanna cosplay a grey knight
azure vault
Just play the priest it's basically the same thing
cerulean wagon
but classes can be cool if done well
they dont mean classes as such
they mean character less, create your own person thing
cerulean wagon
I just wanna cosplay a grey knight
SM confirmed as not in the game
visual pumice
so sad
vast frigate
no kek
plucky moth
what I would like to see though is way more cosmetic choice
vast frigate
yes
storm jungle
what I would like to see though is way more cosmetic choice
No you're getting recolored armor and you're gonna like it.
jagged aurora
If we don’t ever fight some mf death guard imma nut
plucky moth
like we're a rag tag bunch of convicts, we're pretty free to scrap together whatever we need/want as we come across it
jagged aurora
They just got the new codex too
plucky moth
would be cool to fight some CSM
vast frigate
No you're getting recolored armor and you're gonna like it.
i will paint my armor red
visual pumice
a boss dude would be neat
plucky moth
yeah like a lord fight against a death guard
vast frigate
Da Fastest Git Aloive
storm jungle
Yeha ngl i wouldnt be mad if they put in some DG, it would be hard to resist.
plucky moth
if there's lore concerns around their power level
we could just have an objective to collapse a section of underhive on them
visual pumice
one lord wouldn't be too bad though anyway i wouldn't think
storm jungle
yeah honestly
plucky moth
I think it'd be neat
storm jungle
im pretty sure the cast will get the Ubersreik treatment of becoming official special characters anyway
so them killing a marine or two isnt too extreme
rotund siren
yeah
they are working for an Inquisitor, so they were handpicked for being all speshul
vast frigate
Dealing with a single plague marine isnt hard tho, remember that
rotund siren
probably
vast frigate
an example is the fact that nurgle still relies on your body to exist
sure, nurglings and a destroyer swarm may follow, but making an ogryn spoon feed a plague marine a melta bomb is perfectly fine
plucky moth
killing death guard with soap
rotund siren
lol
vast frigate
I will cleanse the unclean
rotund siren
reminds me of the Great Clean One
cerulean wagon
yeah like a lord fight against a death guard
would be neat yes
plucky moth
"how'd the Ogryn kill the plague marine?"
"he brushed his teeth, sir"
vast frigate
yeah
visual pumice
Onsite dental surgery
vast frigate
''Why does the ogryn have brushes on its belt brother?''
it matters not brother, prepare the melta gun
IT BRUSHES LEFT, THEN RIGHT, THEN LEFT AGAIN FOR THE EMPEROR DOES NOT LIKE THE STINKY VOICE
plucky moth
hit 'em with a fisherman's friend
plucky moth
hosing them down
rotund siren
I mean, at that point you might as well just have a melta
what is the difference between vaporization and cleaning, anyways?
both results guarantee sanitation
vast frigate
indeed
shell pebble
You dont kill the DG and you make him realize he's just being edgy because he hasnt had a good bath in centuries
vast frigate
you ask if he wants monster
if he says yes, you tell him to take a shower first
and then you promise him chicken tendies
plucky moth
plague marines are just hangry
shell pebble
^^
I like the idea of there being DG that are willing to go back to the Imperium's side if given monster and tendies
plucky moth
I like how the entire 40k universe is just an over the top lesson in the horrors of bad parenting
shell pebble
Truly its the best PSA
rotund siren
that's one way of looking at it
plucky moth
aside from the nids I guess
shell pebble
The War in Heaven teaches us that you have to share
rotund siren
Sharing is caring, Eldar teach not to enjoy in excess
jagged aurora
I think they just weren’t doing it right
Maybe if they followed in the footsteps of Erika negai then maybe slaanesh wouldn’t have been born
plucky moth
I mean really it's all prevented if they just developed a denial fetish
jagged aurora
As a fan of CBT I know you don’t guaranteed invoke the warp when you overdoes
storm jungle
CBT?
visual pumice
don't
rotund siren
don't say it
storm jungle
Im guessing its a fetish?
visual pumice
yeah
visual pumice
well that and it's an unfunny meme
storm jungle
I mean considering the same person that said it mentioned a corpse looking hot earlier i dont know what i expected.
visual pumice
true
rotund siren
:/
storm jungle
Yeah Sol just dm'd me about what it means. Neato lol
visual pumice
yeah
rotund siren
you know it
grim sequoia
rotund siren
I am honestly pretty surprised that Dilara managed not to discover it after the amount of memes
a few years ago?
I think it was a few years
maybe just 2, not sure
storm jungle
jagged aurora
well that and it's an unfunny meme
nurgle's rot upon you
grim sequoia
storm jungle
nurgle's rot upon you
rotund siren
that is a fantastic lil card there
jagged aurora
<:NoU:688159493078515849>
storm jungle
Yeah thats what i posted
visual pumice
classic
storm jungle
rotund siren
nice colors
summer niche
how did you end up missing cbt?
jagged aurora
haha but i am glue and you are rubber and when you come at me you get all sticky and nasty and nobody wants you
visual pumice
wit
storm jungle
haha but i am glue and you are rubber and when you come at me you get all sticky...
Sounds cool.
rotund siren
that's just disgusting
rotund siren
honestly just sad
storm jungle
poor lad
vast frigate
what the fuck just happened
summer niche
rotund siren
I don't find the humor in this
plucky moth
what am I looking at here?
visual pumice
"""""""Humour""""""""""
storm jungle
Yeah that lol
rotund siren
nothing about this was funny though
I still don't understand what could've been seen as even vaguely "haha" about all this
summer niche
invoking cbt can defi be amusing to catch friends offguard
but i mean it's not like anyone is looking at it
plucky moth
Cognitive Behavioural Therapy?
visual pumice
yes
summer niche
sure
jagged aurora
how else could we make them tig ol bitty eldar girlfriends chill out?
rotund siren
don't
don't use psychology to change how other people act, please
that's super unethical
summer niche
i know some kids to brainshrink parents
they're so fucked up
they use brainshrink tricks themselves
completely devoid of empathy
it's facinating
rotund siren
yeah that is sociopathic
dim totem
so cbt does not mean what i think it means?
final spruce
Im sure it has multiple meaning as Incan demonstrated
summer niche
ye
crisp heath
Oh my god
Im so mad
I wrote a comic about Malakim Phoros being a loving, nice chapter master
TURNS OUT SOMEONE HAS WRITTEN ABOUT PHOROS
and hes an asshole
crisp heath
Bbgjfhh i thought no one cared about lamentys
summer niche
i think she meant from gws direction
crisp heath
If you insist
storm jungle
and yep Deyj's right there too
summer niche
since lamenters is the eternally unlucky/cursed chapter
is there a eternally blessed/lucky chapter?
cerulean wagon
ultramarines?
crisp heath
What’s the opposite of plot armor?
summer niche
is plot armour really luck though?
crisp heath
That’s what the lamenter’s downfall is
summer niche
doesn't feel like luck when it's supposed to be a certain way
summer niche
wasn't the thousands sons considered blessed and lucky before they started really going all out withtheir psycic shennaigans?
mostly cause they instictively did shit
so it looked like luck
crisp heath
They got pretty unlucky tho
summer niche
maybe luck is just warp shennaigans in 40k
oh yeah it defi wasn't luck
but it looked like luck
rotund siren
yeah
rotund siren
there's an excerpt of a hive ganger who's talking about how an opponent's gun randomly exploded right before the guy shot the ganger, saving the ganger's life
crisp heath
The reason the lamenters are so unlucky is the cursed founding
summer niche
i just thought it'd be amusing with a chapter that personifies galdstone gander
but i guess there isn't one
crisp heath
Anyone know what the highest rank for a space marine is? Underneath chapter master?
cerulean wagon
primarch
barren tapir
Anyone know what the highest rank for a space marine is? Underneath chapter mast...
Captain of the 1st or 2nd company, unless some weird tradition of the chapter dictate otherwise iirc
crisp heath
Word thank u
median sundial
What do you think the Galaxy’d be like if OG fantasy was Sci-Fi?
median sundial
By that I mean what if 40k and Old World Fantasy had a kid?
plucky moth
it'd be like fantasy in space
final spruce
I would say its what happened with AOS but its too good to be an equal mix
open marsh
By that I mean what if 40k and Old World Fantasy had a kid?
You would have 40k
median sundial
Should’ve expected that honestly.
storm jungle
crisp heath
I was gonna say that but I was like "I shouldnt"
crisp heath
Anybody read Master of Mankind here?
open marsh
yeh y
open marsh
I liked it.
Ive always gotten the feeling that the people who didnt like, mostly didnt like it because it didnt agree with their headcanon
Alot like the Dark Angels / Lion El' Jonson novels
coarse mirage
By that I mean what if 40k and Old World Fantasy had a kid?
Age of Sigmar?
peak hamlet
Like warhammer 2.000?
placid timber
Like warhammer 2.000?
Lmao it takes place in modern day
Skaven blight under new york confirmed
peak hamlet
XD
placid timber
it'd be like fantasy in space
Oh so like 40k
cerulean wagon
surprisingly
if you mix warhammer with sci fi
you get
warhammer sci fi
also known as warhammer 40k
rotund siren
wow it's almost like 40k was based off of warhammer fantasy
peak hamlet
Isnt 40k classified as "space fantasy"?
placid timber
Anyone who thinks starwars is a fucking scifi setting doe not understand what science fiction is lol
plucky moth
sci-fa
placid timber
Its not scifi at all tho...
placid timber
i have to go off break
cerulean wagon
you just gotta squint for a bit
placid timber
Man i really want to waste my time explaining the two genres but i dont have any time right noe
plucky moth
prime trout
Man i really want to waste my time explaining the two genres but i dont have any...
oh well...
open marsh
science fantasy
open marsh
prime trout
sounds an awful lot like sci fi with extra steps
storm jungle
Not really but okay
open marsh
The first paragraph explains the difference
summer niche
depends on if you find psycics being a thing that's of science or fantasy
cause according to the Big E there is nothing supernatural about the warp
if big E says it's science, it's science
final spruce
I mean its soul science
Soul is definitly something fantasy
Unless you believe in ghost, Jesus and such
cerulean wagon
and ghost jesus
summer niche
it's fine he raised this wekend
regular jesus
zombie jesus
?
american is majority relgious anymore btw
storm jungle
and people ask me why im an atheist
storm jungle
Yeee
summer niche
r i p
i can only imagine the pressure to get married already as well
middle eastern family pressure is intense
storm jungle
lmao
its true too
but THANKFULLY my dad actually reads a lot and is philosophical so my family isnt actually that religious
storm jungle
like we dont have prayers or any of that stuff
also same i know 
or forced to wear a hijab because my hair in-visibility is sin or some shit
summer niche
i have a syrian friend that basicly got thrown out of his family cause he got together with an italian girl
6 years later, she cheats on him
rough life
final spruce
Its never easy
summer niche
Do they ever explain why the hair is imporant to hide?
final spruce
Talking about religions
storm jungle
like.. are there hair fetishes?
In its traditional form, it is worn by women to maintain modesty and privacy from unrelated males. According to the Encyclopedia of Islam and Muslim World, modesty in the Quran concerns both men's and women's "gaze, gait, garments, and genitalia". The Qur'an instructs Muslim women to dress modestly.
jeez
I didnt know it was THIS bad
summer niche
bruh you gotta walk a special way
storm jungle
Oh im still in turkey
Its just that like i said my family arent ultra religious
so we dont really pray or do namaz's and stuff, its why i consider myself a bit more lucky i guess
Just gotta wait until Big E finally surfaces
summer niche
plucky moth
~~and people ask me why im an atheist~~
why are you atheist? 
summer niche
cause religion is ridiculous
plucky moth
also can 100% relate to the whole turkish family thing
final spruce
I have had the opportunity to talk with a lot of Islam practionners in general and thats the feeling I got from it from those that didnt like it
storm jungle
Yeah ill say islam is just sexist as shit but its a hard thing to just rip out of it considering how long some people have been attached to it in general so hey what can you do.
plucky moth
yeah it's kinda...how it is
storm jungle
Alas.
vagrant osprey
Do you need help funding an escape from Turkey?
storm jungle
Not yet 
but jokes aside as weird as it sounds ill just stick to the 40k thing of "Unless your faith gives you glowy powers im not gonna trust the words of a book some guy wrote in a cave thousands of years ago just to venerate some non-existent higher entity"
vagrant osprey
Ok, I'll put a pin in that and pencil you in to my refugee fund.
cerulean wagon
new gofund me to send dilara to mars
gaunt vector
can we add Elon to the server and actually make that happen?
vagrant osprey
the fact that I actually have a refugee fund that gets used is depressing, which might be why 40k resonates with me
coarse mirage
In olden days even Christianity had rules about not showing your hair
summer niche
still does in certain places
coarse mirage
Little do they know, that covering your hair just makes it more desirable!
storm jungle
This is true
coarse mirage
Modesty and restraint implies the existance of the opposites, and that's sexy.
gaunt vector
Christianity had a very bizare phase where it was trying to become an institution. thats why there are so many versions. Thankfully most are reasonably chill in most respects.
coarse mirage
Christianity had a very bizare phase where it was trying to become an institutio...
"I'll make my own Christinaity, with black jack aaand hookers!"
summer niche
but i suppose that's not so wierd
since all the wierd fucky cults where thrown out of europe
gaunt vector
i've heard horror stories from the US
yeah, like hell houses.
I feel like those are a crime vs humanity
coarse mirage
since all the wierd fucky cults where thrown out of europe
Have you forgotten about the one we had in Sweden?
I've forgotten their name though
summer niche
livets ord och jehovas vittne?
coarse mirage
Livets Ord yeah
gaunt vector
"I'll make my own Christinaity, with black jack aaand hookers!"
lmao
summer niche
yeah they're wierdos
my plastic uncle actually lost his wife, cause they were part of jehovas
she couldn't get blood donated to her
or transfused i should say
coarse mirage
Yeah
summer niche
pretty fucked up way to die
so my cousins didn't celebrate christmas until they were like 23
coarse mirage
I don't even want anything to do with the Salvation Army, they're also fucked up.
gaunt vector
sorry for your family's loss
coarse mirage
Plastic, for those that don't know, is a word used in Sweden for non-blood, often adoptive relatives.
gaunt vector
ah ok I had no idea thank you for clarifying
coarse mirage
It's a good word :p
peak hamlet
The only reason im still in the church is because im too lazy to figure out how to leave
And i dont have to pay anything yet
coarse mirage
I'm not even baptised.
gaunt vector
The only reason im still in the church is because im too lazy to figure out how ...
mine just shut down because it couldn't afford to keep open. Still believe in Jesus though
coarse mirage
mine just shut down because it couldn't afford to keep open. Still believe in Je...
I find church as an institution to be deeply unchristian and simply an attempt to control religion and faith.
peak hamlet
Im not a huge fan of religion in general
coarse mirage
God is what you make of God, no matter where you choose to worship.
summer niche
i find rituals useful
vagrant osprey
Meh, it depends on the branch. Some are pretty much anarchists. Those branches are ok.
summer niche
rituals are useful for habit and happiness
placid timber
Experimental religions are fuckin pog i tell you what
gaunt vector
I find church as an institution to be deeply unchristian and simply an attempt t...
It kinda sorta can be. Some absolutely are, others are very chill
mine was chill af
coarse mirage
As the good book says that nobody can tell you what or how to believe.
vagrant osprey
Rituals are soothing because humans are pattern matchers and we find things that match a pattern to be soothing.
gaunt vector
british methodists who didn't really bother paying too much attention to the method
vagrant osprey
It hits us with dopamine because "Yes, I have correctly matched the pattern. Things are correct."
coarse mirage
Most schools of Christianity, the different variants, were mostly made to consolidate power by those that didn't want to lose it to the Pope.
gaunt vector
Most schools of Christianity, the different variants, were mostly made to consol...
Henry VIII: "You called?"
summer niche
It hits us with dopamine because "Yes, I have correctly matched the pattern. Thi...
yeah, i find them to be useful
kinda like how native americans cleansed themselves of their warface after coming back from battle
coarse mirage
Henry VIII: "You called?"
"I want to divorce" "You can't" "This church is mine now. I want to divorce"
vagrant osprey
Consider:
gaunt vector
Consider:
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAa
peak hamlet
Christian scools are a little retarded in general tbh. You go to a school to learn stuff and not to get fed up by misinformation
vagrant osprey
I spoilered it for a reason. Don't blame me.
gaunt vector
I spoilered it for a reason. Don't blame me.
yeah ty I just shouldn't have clicked
coarse mirage
Christian scools are a little retarded in general tbh. You go to a school to lea...
Oh I meant school as in variation, not a literal school.
gaunt vector
Christian scools are a little retarded in general tbh. You go to a school to lea...
worst part is that all the songs are catchy AF and u don't forget them... EVER
vagrant osprey
Alternatively:
gaunt vector
like a shcool of thought not a school of education
vagrant osprey
The pattern is matched, the fit is perfect. All is right.
gaunt vector
"I want to divorce" "You can't" "This church is mine now. I want to divorce"
CofE is preworkout for brexit change my mind
crisp heath
When i was a kid in catholic school they showed me a picture of jesus dying and said it was a real picture taken with a camera that could see through time
gaunt vector
When i was a kid in catholic school they showed me a picture of jesus dying and ...
they WAT
vagrant osprey
....
crisp heath
And they then said i was going to hell
coarse mirage
When i was a kid in catholic school they showed me a picture of jesus dying and ...
Mmm lies
gaunt vector
I take back what I said about the songs
crisp heath
Because i was actin a fool in class
vagrant osprey
That's literally four DIFFERENT sins.
crisp heath
And i was like “😳 im gojng to hell”
vagrant osprey
Bearing false witness, casting judgement, taking the name of god in vain, and hubris.
crisp heath
And dont forget actin a fool in class
vagrant osprey
Soooo.... They're the one on the chopping block for that, not you :V
crisp heath
I was so mad when i found out it wasnt real
gaunt vector
the camera?
peak hamlet
Lmao
peak hamlet
Hell yeah!
gaunt vector
wow
peak hamlet
Metal is sick
gaunt vector
how did they think that was going to end?
coarse mirage
It's all ever about breaking you and making you obedient.
vagrant osprey
Did you inscribe the mysterious S into things?
crisp heath
gaunt vector
It's all ever about breaking you and making you obedient.
its an abuse of religion
crisp heath
gaunt vector
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chronovisor
wait... did the ppl who told you actually believe it themselves?
crisp heath
Idk
coarse mirage
its an abuse of religion
Religion is the excuse. School does it without the religion and just plain tries to break you.
gaunt vector
Religion is the excuse. School does it without the religion and just plain tries...
well yeah I wouldn't go so far as to say break absolutely but school certainly trains you to belive in a disciplined social order
gaunt vector
But memory is a fallible thing
yikes I'm sry u had to go through that
crisp heath
Hey man its all good
gaunt vector
at least u got metal out of it
crisp heath
I never wouldve discovered metal and occultism and fun shit like that if religion school didnt do that
peak hamlet
You still listening to metal?
vagrant osprey
If you wanted to form a cult around something mysterious, we have literally no idea how old this is, or where it started, but people keep drawing it
peak hamlet
If you wanted to form a cult around something mysterious, we have *literally no ...
Yea what even is this tbh?
summer niche
swedish elementary school had it on the benches too
vagrant osprey
People who have never seen it before will draw it. It spontaniously starts existing
peak hamlet
I remember drawing it back then but i have no idea why
vagrant osprey
It has been seen inscribed on cave walls by vikings, and on middle eastern pottery
It's literally everywhere, and has no known meaning
summer niche
i think he is meming
vagrant osprey
It's a meme, but it's also true.
gaunt vector
"the existence or functionality of the chronovisor has never been confirmed; its alleged capabilities are strongly reminiscent of the fictional time viewer which features in T. L. Sherred's 1947 science fiction novella, E for Effort.[2]" E for effort is also what I would give the guy who came up with this BS
crisp heath
Changes week by week but right now: megadeth, death, judas priest, hellripper, municipal waste
crisp heath
I definitely tend to lean that way, but i dont subscribe to it religiously or anything
I find it hard to discover new metal that i like
gaunt vector
Using the chronovisor, Ernetti said that he had witnessed, among other scenes, a performance in Rome in 169 BC of the lost tragedy, Thyestes, by the father of Latin poetry, Quintus Ennius. Dr. Katherine Eldred of Princeton University is the author of an English rendition of the text which is included as an appendix to the U.S. printing of Peter Krassa's book on the Chronovisor. Eldred believes that Ernetti actually wrote the supposedly ancient play himself. As provided by an anonymous relative of Father Ernetti, there was a deathbed confession, included in the U.S. edition of the play, that Ernetti had written the text of the play himself and that the "photo" of Christ was indeed a "lie". According to the same "source", however, Ernetti also affirmed that the machine was genuinely functional.
crisp heath
Not saying its not out there, just dont find my personal tastes align with what gets popular
peak hamlet
I like almost every subgenre, not a huge fan of extreme slam
But yeah i lean more into the deathcore spectrum
crisp heath
Extreme slam?
peak hamlet
Extreme slam?
Lemme find an example real quick
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pk_TthHfLeE like this for example
Just sounds off to me
crisp heath
ohmygod
reading betrayer
just got to the part where ||lotara shoots the world eater in the face and spits on him||
peak hamlet
This however sounds fucking sick https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ALQCnolybc
crisp heath
have the songs saved
will listen when i get home
(at physical therapy gettin a butt massage)
vagrant osprey
What are the odds that a lot of 40k hymns are just metal songs
Badly translated ones.
I'm just imagining a dreadnought waking up to a choir of tech marines singing "Hearken, from where interred, to repay betrayal's debt incurred"
vagrant osprey
Well, Low Gothic is canonically not english
So it would have to be a translation.
Or they could be singing it in the original language with no understanding of the words
But TBH, the idea of a choir of Astartes singing a metal song in a language they don't know with incomprehensibly bad pronunciation is hilarious
open marsh
Well, Low Gothic is *canonically* not english
Nor is.it one language. Its an umbrella term for all languages in the Imperium that isn't High Gothic
barren tapir
TBF it could be a future version of english with pieces of all other languages...
I hardly believe it is our current english
open marsh
It's not English. An Imperial force found a DAoT ship in Death of Integrity, they couldnt read the ship's name. Because it was in English
barren tapir
Which is to be interpreted as "no, it is not english for me"
open marsh
They don't even understand the letters
barren tapir
I'm pretty sure that the primarchs and big e know english though, as they studied and read some of our current, or even older, books and stuff
Not that it was the topic of the discussion btw
storm jungle
As GW encourages, I choose to ignore this and accept my own version as canon.
ᕕ( ᐛ )ᕗ
open marsh
Yeah they do. And the Mechanicius guy with the group I mentioned could. He even knew enough to get the ship's door open. But noone else understood him
storm jungle
But yeah its dumb
rotund siren
yeah, the whole Low and High Gothic thing is pretty funny to me, considering just how varied the languages could be. I mean, they are separated by light years, of course there's gonna be wildly different languages
open marsh
But yeah its dumb
It one of the more realistic things in 40k tho. Go back in time 40,000 years and speak modern english. See if anyone understands you
barren tapir
To me gothic look like something like esperanto, other settings get a language that is just a mix mash of our current languages
rotund siren
and yet Low Gothic speakers don't seem to have too many problems talking with folks from other planets, unless they actually do and I missed some lore
storm jungle
Yeah thats what I mean
its pretty poorly established
especially since we read everything in english for easier reading and thats just another bucket of problems ontop of it if someone had to nitpick
prime kernel
oh yeah thats always been fuckign weird. how can people from one sector over talk with people from another sector over.
makes absolutley no fucking sense whatsoever
summer niche
because it's not very interesting
prime kernel
agree to disagree
barren tapir
and yet Low Gothic speakers don't seem to have too many problems talking with fo...
They do, low gothic is like common in d&d, only the most basic things are understandable, for more complex communication they need time to learn each other version of low gothic
summer niche
having to setup communications all the time is prob not what they're going for in their books
unless it's an alien species being strange as heck
storm jungle
Enforcing a single lingua franca in some capacity would make more sense
open marsh
oh yeah thats always been fuckign weird. how can people from one sector over tal...
Astropaths luckily communicate psykicly. So no words are used. Just intents and meanings
open marsh
Enforcing a single lingua franca in some capacity would make more sense
That's High Gothic
storm jungle
Yeah thats what im talking about
summer niche
honestly if space marines came upon humans they couldn't understand i'd just imagine they're shot em down
instead of trying to talk to them
open marsh
But it's impossible to enforce that on everyone in the galaxy
barren tapir
There are quite a lot of agencies which duty is to study languages
storm jungle
🤏
barren tapir
Imperium have them, mechanicus have them
barren tapir
High gothic is hinted to be the language that was developed during the Age of Tech though
So it make sense that some people that doesn't know it cannot recognize it on a ship, unlike the techpriest
rotund siren
Imperium have them, mechanicus have them
oh yeah, I imagine that would be necessary for the Administratum, what with their documents going back countless millennia
open marsh
High gothic is hinted to be the language that was developed during the Age of Te...
Ill grab the excerpt. Also, side note. High Gothic has also changed. When Guilliman made it to terra and tried talking with the High Lords, they barely understood him because he was ushing such an ancient version of High Gothic
barren tapir
The imperium is constantly trying to understand the shit ton of languages that it has, the xenos one and even the old human ones...
barren tapir
Ill grab the excerpt. Also, side note. High Gothic has also changed. When Guilli...
Ah, i know that, yeah, he was using a language that was different than theirs, but not as much as to not understanding him...
barren tapir
And TBH gothic, even the high one sadly, got infected by religious things
Less severe
They could understand him, but some pronunciation was different, and some words had developed new meanings, or lost it...
open marsh
Another light came on, its radiance undimmed by time or corruption. It lit a message on the side of the hull in a strange script Galt could barely read. As alien as the straight lines of the font seemed, they were human letters, a plain form of the Gothic script. The words, however, were meaningless to him.
@storm jungle Think of all the languages on Earth. "High Gothic" would be Latin. Every other language would be "Low Gothic"
rotund siren
neat
barren tapir
```Another light came on, its radiance undimmed by time or corruption. It lit a ...
This is really nice, it show that they can recognize the letters, but the words make no sense to them... Like me reading latin... I know the letters, but i cannot understand the meaning of the word
open marsh
barely recognized the letters
barren tapir
Also it is interesting that they recnogize those letter as a plain form of gothic
rotund siren
I thought that just meant unembellished
barren tapir
They have gone full baroque with the letters too with gothic, now that is something that i don't like
open marsh
They have gone full baroque with the letters too with gothic, now that is someth...
Its cant be 40k unles its extra as fuuuuuck
barren tapir
I have already problem trying to read gothic font from word, i guess i wouldn't be even capable to read gothic... And that make me wonder if someone from the Age of Tech could recognise easily the gothic language
open marsh
Yeah if we were suddenly in 40k. We would be incapable of reading or speaking any of their languages
Only the extreme rarity, like that 1 Magos, would be able to understand us
And even then. Its doubtful he would completely understand us
summer niche
who would you have wanted to be found by in the 40k universe?
imagine you're frozen down
and they find you
who found you?
open marsh
A very generous planetary governor on a paradise world
storm jungle
Yeah that'd be the ultimate lucky fate lol
storm jungle
Jokes aside the eldar might also be a safe bet?
Considering craftworlds are like the literal 2nd most safest place after imperial paradise worlds and such. The problem is if you're a human being found by them you'll probably end up being a janitor if they even feel merciful
summer niche
would they care for us though?
wouldn't surprise me if they just left us on a planet
storm jungle
Yeeee
summer niche
as a mercy lmao
storm jungle
lmao
storm jungle
yeah like i said there its ironically the 2nd safest place but as we also know space elves gotta be space elves
storm jungle
Its a wacky place but hey its better than getting shanked on the street and grinded into corpse-food
summer niche
imagine having to deal with eldar that aren't warfaced
lmao
just mega focused on their current focus
storm jungle
Lmao yeah, id take gardening too tbh
Just for the love of god dont drop me on a human planet
summer niche
Just for the love of god dont drop me on a human planet
rotund siren
drops you on a Tyranid planet
summer niche
"understandable mon'key, we also do not like your species"
crisp heath
I want to be found by my real father, konrad curze
storm jungle
cerulean wagon
ew
summer niche
he'd prob dunk on your before you could even profess your sonship to him
crisp heath
He would sew me into the walls of his room and i would forever live in pain
rotund siren
hmm
rotund siren
chomp chomp chomp
junior crow
cloud kindle
https://qph.fs.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-af170e27009513a0039a4578051aa26a
@storm jungle not enough smog or manufactorums
And a severe lack of kilometre tall gold eagle statues
0/10 would send kriegers instead
cloud kindle
She really needs to keep her tongue i her mouth
Just think of all the nasty stuff it could catch
vagrant osprey
Like fire.
crisp heath
love this art
sang is just NOT feeling it
wait
da primarchs are 12 feet tall
but the emperor is 10 feet tall?
open marsh
but the emperor is 10 feet tall?
Big E is no bigger than a normal man. But makes himself look bigger via psychic illusion. Until he needs to fight, then he uses more psychic power to temporarily make himself bigger. Kinda like going super sayian
open marsh
Yeah
When he was on the Golden Throne during the heresy, a Sister of Silence (a blank) looked at him. Saw no psychic golden light or anything. Just a normal dude (in golden armour).
But during the Ullanor Campaign, Horus sees him get BIGGA to fight the warboss of the Orkz
cloud kindle
i think sometimes he doesnt even mean to project himself
sec let me get an excerpt
Light spilled from within as a gangplank extended from the craft with a clang. A shadow appeared in the light, waiting for a moment at the entryway before emerging into view. Whispers spread through the men, of surprise and amazement. Guns quivered in shaking hands and there were clatters as some of the soldiers dropped their weapons. Seemingly without prompt, the men lowered themselves to the ground, putting aside their weapons and bowing their heads. Some prostrated themselves, whispering fervently. Corvus glanced to Gapphion beside him. The lieutenant was on his knees too. There were tears in his eyes and an expression of joy etched on his slack-lipped face. ‘So majestic…’ Gapphion muttered. ‘What glory. What power.’
Confused, Corvus directed his attention to the man descending the landing ramp. He seemed unremarkable. In fact, he seemed so unremarkable that Corvus could not discern a single distinguishing feature about him. He was of average height, with dark hair and moderately tanned skin. In build he was neither bulky nor slight, but of normal proportion, slightly larger than the malnourished men who now abased themselves before him. He was dressed in a robe of white linen, free of ornamentation except for a necklace of gold on which hung a pendant fashioned in the shape of an eagle with outspread wings, a lightning bolt in its claws. The man’s eyes were as indistinct as the rest of him, neither blue nor green nor grey nor brown, but a flecked mixture of all. Yet there was something in those eyes that reached into Corvus and touched upon his inner self. There was wisdom and kindness there, and antiquity that was very humbling but also disconcerting. And at the same time as Corvus saw this, he also witnessed the arrival of a demigod, wreathed in golden light and dressed in white finery that burned with its own light.
He saw a stern face set with two golden orbs for eyes, piercing in their intensity, searing into the core of his being. The stranger seemed to tower over the kneeling men, borne forwards upon a carpet of undulating flames. It was impossible to reconcile the two images. The supreme, grandiose king of men approached Corvus, but all the while the slight, unimposing man flickered within. Finally Corvus’s mind could fight no longer against the glamour and he saw the new arrival as his followers did, and was filled by an overwhelming urge to pay obeisance to this stranger. He fought that instinct. He had waged a war so that his people would not bow before another man. The newcomer’s effect on Corvus’s men unsettled the rebel leader.
He stared with narrowed eyes, unable to discern which image was true and which was illusion as the stranger paced slowly and confidently across the ferrocrete. ‘Who are you?’ Corvus demanded. ‘What have you done to my men?’ The stranger looked around at the guerrilla fighters regarding him with adoration, seeming to Corvus slightly nonplussed at the scene. His blond hair fell in waves across his shoulders as he turned his head, spilling like fiery liquid. Another wave of majesty swept over Corvus and again the guerrilla commander had to make a physical effort not to fall to his knees. ‘An occupational hazard,’ said the man, returning his attention to Corvus. He fixed the rebel leader with a stare, his eyes now permanently golden like bottomless wells of light. There was a glow of power beneath his skin, as if the stranger’s flesh were embers masked behind thin paper.
Corvus experienced a momentary fluttering in his breast and a knot of anxiety in his gut, a fraction of the effect the man was having on his warriors. ‘I am the Emperor of Mankind. I created you.’
open marsh
Yeah I get that feeling that sometimes he shows his true form when he didnt mean too. Or shows his illusion on accident
storm jungle
Killing Eldar and feeding their souls to Slaanesh
open marsh
||She reached out her hand and began to stroke his shaggy hair. 'You're so much more than that, Lowen,' she said. 'You're my friend, and you're an instrument now. I'd like you to walk with me and serve at my side.'
He looked up at her, his face pale and frightened. 'Is this what corruption feels like?' he asked.
She nodded, still stroking his head.
'Feels good,' he admitted. 'Where will we go?'
'Ah, now, my little hunter,' Miriael Sabathiel said. 'How are you at hunting eldar?'||
^from "The Invitation" short story
(also. censored because headpats)
marsh grail
There are plenty of examples of loyalists falling to chaos but are there any examples of heretics rejoining the imperium?
open marsh
There was a plague marine who sacrificed himself to help the Imperium. Nurgle still got his soul tho
cloud kindle
a final act of defiance
detonated a bomb on the bridge of a ship if i recall banishing a daemon prince?
i cant recall the details
that story was too lewd @open marsh
open marsh
Hence the censor
cloud kindle
only rats should get headpats
crisp heath
I did think it was weird how in First Heretic when he shows up to monarchia to prove he isnt a god, he shows up so bright no one can even look at him and his face is a million faces at once
Like broh you’re not making your point very well
open marsh
ikr
crisp heath
Turn the fucking dimmers up
Like when he shows up to nostramo, a place without sunlight...
He made so many people go blind
open marsh
Yeah. Its why I get the feeling that Big E isnt always in 100% control of his lightswitch
vagrant osprey
Or that he's an ass
Remember, that's a glamour
It's not actual light, it's a psychic impression of light
gaunt vector
so its a warp thing, which probably makes it even harder to control
especially when he is hyped to see one of his sons
vagrant osprey
It's absolutely a warp thing.
But it can't burn out eyeballs, since it's not touching them
storm jungle
It was actual light
gaunt vector
ppl on Nostramo did go blind tho
storm jungle
since nostramons like
literally dont know what light is like throughout all their lives
gaunt vector
or maybe they just realised that they were blind
bc they never had light to compare it to
crisp heath
Yeah it has to be a psychic manifestation of light
Because they literally went blind
vagrant osprey
That makes sense
storm jungle
It doesnt have to be psychic for them to go blind
leave someone in a cave for a thousand years and drag them out later and see what happens
gaunt vector
https://tenor.com/view/reaction-my-eyes-cant-unsee-burn-gif-7225082
if that scene is ever animated this line needs to be played in the background
cerulean wagon
honestly i just think BIG Es writing is just shoddy
crisp heath
Shows up to a no light world with the the brights on
gaunt vector
just triumphant fanfare and then from a random background charachter "my eyes!"
storm jungle
honestly i just think BIG Es writing is just shoddy
No you dont get it skelly!
Its same as the writers filling in the stupid plot hole of how inconsistent Big E's appearance is
"uhhh he knows biomancy or some shit"
crisp heath
I like how half these conversations just kinda end with someone going “writing bad”
gaunt vector
I like how half these conversations just kinda end with someone going “writing b...
where's the half that don't?
XD
crisp heath
Yeah but i kinda like talking about it though
storm jungle
theres a reason almost half of the 56 Horus Heresy books are ignorable
gaunt vector
true
storm jungle
but yeee thats fine
gaunt vector
its fun
crisp heath
I kind of enjoy the lore and hobby
Anyways back to the topic
Nostramo is a shithole though, so maybe he did it on purpose
😂
crisp heath
They deserved that so bad
I read recently that the higher ups on Nostramo were sending the imperium people from prisons instead of themselves
storm jungle
Yeah its one of the reasons why the Night Lord ranks are so messed up.
Since basically 100+ serial killers/psychopaths get super powers and guns to go do whatever they want on crusades lol
crisp heath
Gahaha
Yall read that one short story Lesson in Violence
Where curze stalks a suicidal lady to her room and when he tries to kill herself he shows up and is like “that’s against the law”
And slaughters her
storm jungle
God i hated that short story lmao
storm jungle
Curze is cool but hes such an edgy piece of shit yeah
crisp heath
The absolute worst
And he knows it
And instead of being like “wow i suck, i should stop” hes like “how can i suck more? 🤔”
storm jungle
he literally laments how he couldnt be an awesome sneaky/cool person like Corvus too which makes it even funnier
out of all his brothers corax is the one he only hates
lmao
crisp heath
Lol yeah
And corax is like “dude just chill, its okay broh”
Curze: “hes mocking me”
storm jungle
lol exactly
its funny because the Raven Guard are literally what the Night Lords should have been if konrad spent any moment managing his legion instead of:
"Oh hey more serial killers for my ranks"
crisp heath
😂
I liked when corax showed up in Vulkan Lives and he’s so stealthy Vulkan cant even see or hear him running next to him
storm jungle
Corax is great lol
literally standing still and being invisible like that Drax meme
crisp heath
hahahah
cloud kindle
cloud kindle
lorgar is a biiiiitcccchhh
crisp heath
its true
crisp heath
one of the friends i was playing with was so upset when i told him lorgar got fucked up again
cloud kindle
your friend has poor taste in primarchs
crisp heath
and was like "broh ur telling me the daemon prince of chaos undivided got beat up? thats just bad writing"
cloud kindle
lorgar was always a bitch
crisp heath
and im like "lorgar's role has always been that he fucking SUCKS"
cloud kindle
and corax has accepted he is of the warp and uses it to wreck heretics in really horrific ways
10/10
rad emo bird
crisp heath
yeah i thought that was really cool
In the curze book, it describes curze towards the end as horrifically deformed by his time in the warp (but not demonic)
and that always stuck with me
and then BAM corax is like "warp me in my true form"
fuck yea
cloud kindle
curze had been completely consumed by his night haunter personality
curze was just a broken sad man tormented by visions of the future
crisp heath
Y'all think curze's true vindication was curze punishing the night haunter?
cloud kindle
maybe
crisp heath
curze was just a broken sad man tormented by visions of the future
While those same visions built Sanguinius stronger, they broke Curze
😦
cloud kindle
there was when he was on ultramar when he chatted with sanguinius was just sad
i cant find the excerpt
crisp heath
😢
"Hope is an empty dream."
wait what
the youtuber asks "what do you guys think? is there still hope for curze?"
serene jungle
Drax is just a smarter-than-average Ogryn
crisp heath
uh broh... i got bad news for ya
signal hill
I just read of a 'latent nurgle meme-virus' in a wh40k ttrpg rulebook
thats weird...old nurgle tries to keep up with the times as it seems
vagrant osprey
Headcanon: There's an entirely decentralized chapter of Astartes who go around pretending to be Ogryns so they can slum it amongst the IG
The process of inducting new recruits involves bashing them in the face with a shovel until they don't have the good looks that Astartes seem to get by default.
signal hill
by how vast and weird the lore is I'm going to join in on that
vagrant osprey
Most people, even in the IG, will never even see an Astartes because they're so rare
So nobody would question an Ogryn who was just "a really lucky shot"
(I also imagine them sitting around in private drinking rotgut while laughing about how mad they were able to get the Commissar by pretending to be scared of getting in the transport.)
vagrant osprey
Exactly
They induct Guardsmen into their ranks, so like the Wolves they're all starting off as adults
crisp heath
when i get a job at black library
i will make this story for you
and i will promptly be fired
vagrant osprey
That won't get you fired, as long as you make 40k an awful universe.
atomic pelican
This assumes that writing poorly gets you fired from black library
When infact, it gets you more commissions
eternal ledge