and the others give it freely but it isnt implied if that act kills them
#40k-lore-chat
cloud kindle
summer niche
kairos is the tzeencth lord of change isn't it?
summer niche
always feels like skarbrand is the one greater daemon people remember
i knew i recogniced the name there
summer niche
yeah probably so
i mean i can't even remember who nurgle has a greater daemon
apostle?
nor slanesh
cunning lantern
"Skarbrand hates knocking sounds! Skarbrand hates going outside. And going inside. Skarbrand shall stay in the doorframe. He hates it slightly less."
atomic pelican
Yeah tbh most named daemons dont really have alot memorable about them
Other than being better variants of the generic
summer niche
i pretty much only know kairos and skarbrand cause they are like the only ones that do anything
atomic pelican
I remember skarbrand for memes and Kairos because of his blind to the present gimmick
visual pumice
skarbrand was the one that thanqoul summoned and he got really mad about it
vast frigate
yep
cloud kindle
and then promptly died i take it
atomic pelican
Warpstone grade plot armor
cloud kindle
i have no idea who he is
cloud kindle
just a damn fucking shame honsou survived when uriel passed through
summer niche
he is a skaven in warhammer fantasy
and he is like a saturday morning villain
keeps coming back with greater and greater plots
and they keep being foiled
summer niche
yeah, it's no wonder the skaven never get anywhere if they're all like that
summer niche
just a damn fucking shame honsou survived when uriel passed through
i'm so broken, i read honsou marine
god help me
cerulean wagon
horny honsou
cloud kindle
absolutely not
i would consider exterminatusing a world if it meant that he would 100% die in the process
serene jungle
I don't see Tzeentch being more powerful than Khorne though
Wait that's heretical talk, Saltzpyre said to not grade evils
Do you think they will pull Slaneesh out from 40k like they did in AoS?
What would the implications even be for that
summer niche
wouldn't surprise me if they did
marketability is more important than interesting lore :^)
visual pumice
Slaneesh is still in AoS to a fair degree
novel fulcrum
yeah, slaanesh did come back
visual pumice
otherwise you wouldn't have Sigvald getting a new model or any of the heodonite stuff
summer niche
they actually went back on it?
interesting
colour me surprised
cause it did seem like he was gonna be stuck in horny jail forever
novel fulcrum
i don't think it was so much a retcon as it was part of the plan all along
novel fulcrum
i don't really delve into AoS, but my DM reads pretty deep into most things, and he was pretty sure it was fairly well executed
summer niche
yeah i'm not really a fan either, just purely based on how they left fantasy, BUT
i'm glad to hear people are happy with what they are doing with it
storm jungle
Yeah AOS is fine for what it is.
I dont like the setting and I prefer Fantasy but i wont say its a shit setting.
the "age of shitmar" stuff got old so fast
visual pumice
i just find the setting confusing
storm jungle
i just find the setting confusing
It might be the realm-jumping nonsense which i hate
it offers freedom sure but eh
cloud kindle
just curious has any of the daemon primarchs manifested in fantasy
storm jungle
just curious has any of the daemon primarchs manifested in fantasy
Nope.
visual pumice
they're very much 40k characters
peak hamlet
They are completely seperated by now
serene jungle
The only thing I don't like is Sigmar's faction
Everything else looks hella cool to me
Especially Sharky Elf
cloud kindle
all i know about sigmar was this video
serene jungle
It's literally Sigmarines
visual pumice
i like the stormcast helmets
peak hamlet
They used to be connected with each other but gw went "screw that" at some point
summer niche
lmao
storm jungle
@cloud kindle The closest you have is Liber Chaotica, the mad ramblings of a warhammer fantasy demonologist that writes a tome of demons and he has visions into 40k here and there. It has some primarch cameoes but its more descriptions of them more than anything else.
storm jungle
i hate that shit
cloud kindle
i hear it has depictions of chaos space marines in it
serene jungle
I don't like the Stormcasts
storm jungle
handwriting is shit lmao
serene jungle
I would like them more if they had a different helmet
Because to me it seemed more like they looked at 40k and said
"Dante is popular, why not make an entire legion of him"
storm jungle
They're pretty much fantasy marines.
Not that its a bad thing but you cant really deny thats what they are.
serene jungle
Whenever I see a Sigmarine I see Dante
visual pumice
helemts are roman inspired if i remember anyway
novel fulcrum
the one thing i know about the stormcast eternals is that if they die, they come back without any of their shit, so they have to go back and make a wargear run
summer niche
i've read some people claiming they're different enough to marines to be itneresting
but i wouldn't know
visual pumice
and stormcast have alot of roman going on
storm jungle
Whenever I see a Sigmarine I see Dante
thats the funny part, when AOS first came around people loved using them for Blood Angels kitbashes and still do
serene jungle
Yeah that's exactly it
storm jungle
and yeee stormcasts goals wise are literally a team of good guys, they're awesome but you need to get into the lore to know most of that.
serene jungle
If I wanted to make a Blood Angels kit I would just buy AoS stuff and just merge them
I sorta figured people might have had the same idea
But didn't expect it to be an actual thing
But this is geedubs products, ofc they would
novel fulcrum
the idea of kitbashing terrifies me; i feel like i don't have an ounce of creativity for that kind of thing
visual pumice
i've got loads of ideas but am worried of ruining it
serene jungle
I helped a friend make a Norscan army
But because I liked him enough I gave him my ideas how to kit it out since he is into all that viking metal and stuff but he wanted them to ook even more savage, but not completely armored to the point of a Marine (so to speak)
summer niche
sounds cool
serene jungle
And a normal marauder that would otherwise be having a shield and axe was running around with spears instead
Even though TTwise that would be... well spear
But gamewise they were all still default stuff
I really don't think I have any of the pictures
serene jungle
Even some chaos lords and chaos warriors got their heads replaced by some modified marauder heads
You could still see what type of unit they were without any issues despite the swap around, but again stuff got modified by a dremel tool so you wouldn't have a Marauder with a CW head
summer niche
i still find chaos warriors looking so much cooler than chaos marines
they look so damn chonky
serene jungle
1000%
summer niche
and yuge compared to the normal spearboi of the empire
summer niche
it must've been horrible facing chaos warriors in general
serene jungle
Also bias towards Fantasy but, considering all marines look like slight modifications I still think Warriors are a hundred times cooler
visual pumice
i much prefer slaves to darkness to black legion
visual pumice
they work the aesthetic better
serene jungle
Well too bad the different variations of CW's we were supposed to see weren't added in for the sake of space and memory usage of the game
summer niche
yeah
they're so fucking thicc
it's insane
knowing they're stuck in the armour makes it even better
that's his life now
storm jungle
I hate that tbh lmao
visual pumice
love it
serene jungle
I looked in the folders I have backed up on this current rig so I think some pictures might be in a backup old HDD 
so I will have to get back to seeing if any of the model pictures survived in that
visual pumice
serene jungle
I know the first custom we made he wanted it to look like a Chaos Lord Thor
I still find it funny that the 4 different kinds of Chaos Warriors are more diverse than the 4 different kinds of Space Marines for their respective gods
for Marines it's more like a color scheme with minor details on the shoulderpads and boots, while the helmet changes
visual pumice
serene jungle
For the Warriors it's like outright clear and the thematic is there
serene jungle
storm jungle
Its probably because they're the chaos ultramarines.
serene jungle
storm jungle
aka posterboys.
visual pumice
the other ones have a motif
storm jungle
Yeah like, they look REALLY "default"?
cerulean wagon
ngl, black legion should have died out after HH
dim totem
Aren't the death guard difficult to paint?
visual pumice
and Slave to Darkness do the Black legion motif better
cerulean wagon
woulda made them cooler if it was like "this is what we could have been, a unified force"
summer niche
dim totem
I can imagine it's a hassle to get all the cuts and guts
summer niche
fucking love age of reckoning concept art
cerulean wagon
instead of them existing and being garbage
storm jungle
fucking love age of reckoning concept art
that concept art pile god knows gave birth to how many references for OC's across the years
i know because im one such person
summer niche
without a doubt
storm jungle
visual pumice
in the lore chat no less
storm jungle
the most accurate place
visual pumice
actual true tbf
visual pumice
😳
cerulean wagon
and therefor it would be official lore
storm jungle
serene jungle
But yeah no matter how you look at it
The Fantasy lords all stick to their extreme correct themes
Ofc biased so a grain of salt
cerulean wagon
i think we will start seeing that with 40k now panda
ofc theres generic chaos marines
but DG and the like
storm jungle
DG bring in that bank because the designers actually get to be unique
cerulean wagon
yup
serene jungle
it's like they are trying to make 40k more friendly to paint and sell? by removing most of the unique elements or something I don't know
cerulean wagon
and i hope now thats made bank theyll do the same for the others
storm jungle
tbh id like that too
serene jungle
Like they are giving all the numarines all the stuff now
BUT THEY ARE JUST RECOLORS
I HATE IT
cerulean wagon
it's like they are trying to make 40k more friendly to paint and sell? by removi...
With regards tot his i can tell you exactly what i think it is
serene jungle
And then the *dark eldar got a pointy stick all up in their rig like sockpuppets
cerulean wagon
40k is a unique setting, which is great
but
because its unique it doesnt draw people who sit there and go "thats like a star wars"
serene jungle
Like where are the guts spilling out of the death guards or the bare abs of a slaneeshi chaos lord anyway
cerulean wagon
so we are now getting a generic sci fi makeover for sm and stuff
serene jungle
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
cerulean wagon
to bring that in
storm jungle
Chaos really does descend.
visual pumice
that's a sick blaster
cerulean wagon
he got that gat
visual pumice
top loading like champ
storm jungle
FYI this shit model is still in the store
serene jungle
If I made a legion it would be Salamanders, and you would bet your skaven butt that I would buy any fantasy/aos kit that had the most dragon skulls or I would just putty and dremel tool it myself
What ever happened to NOISE MARINES with god damned guitar cannons
serene jungle
FYI this shit model is still in the store
That's shit?
cerulean wagon
but ye my point being 40k does have unique models per god
atomic pelican
We talkin abt chaos?
serene jungle
Hello Jean, how did you enjoy your truckload of jeans?
storm jungle
Monogod?
cerulean wagon
dont, youll attract the "but atheism right" people
storm jungle
visual pumice
nonogod more like
serene jungle
I mean think about it for a second
atomic pelican
For daemons
serene jungle
If a Space Wolf chaplain only has a wolf skull for a motif, what is stopping me from adding more skulls or a cape?
storm jungle
Each chaos god has a codex
: Too much effort.
: We can do that why not!
cerulean wagon
daemon update never
serene jungle
If I had a Salamanders chaplain, why isn't the skull of a dragon?!
cerulean wagon
serene jungle
Yet you have some who has dragon skulls on their shoulderpads
BUt the Salamanders chaplain has a generic skull
I DON'T
!????????????????????????????!!!!!!!!!
atomic pelican
daemon update never
AoS makes daemon updates for 40k LUL
serene jungle
GOSH THE GEEDUBS RAGE IS KICKING IN
cloud kindle
reject chaos
serene jungle
Could he be any more bald
storm jungle
cloud kindle
return to monke
storm jungle
crack
serene jungle
I would rather he have a helemet
final spruce
He doesnt have a gun tho
visual pumice
he has a hand
serene jungle
Everytime someone puts a unique helmet or makes their own for their named characters, they instantly look a thousand times cooler
BECAUSE THEY ARE ALL BALD OR HAVE GENERIC SHITTY LOOKING HAIR
I should probably calm down the geedubs rage is real
serene jungle
Looks like a good boi
visual pumice
he calming, yes?
storm jungle
p e t
final spruce
I wouldnt he looks bity
final spruce
Plus his red lttle eyes makes me think of rats
serene jungle
I would
Ogryn likes
*** w o u l d m a k e f o r g o o d p i t f i g h t s ***
No but seriously, Space Wolves chaplain stands out because it has a wolf skull, and their Terminator Chaplains look fan fucking tastic
Why in the god of anything is a Salamanders just a generic green chaplain
it literally begs for us to make our own
visual pumice
cute
serene jungle
what the fuck is that
storm jungle
visual pumice
storm jungle
visual pumice
fuck
visual pumice
new emotes just dropped
visual pumice
they do convey various feelings tbh
visual pumice
🤮
serene jungle
it hurts
rotund siren
yo we watchin' Power Ranger???
serene jungle
THAT'S WHAT IT REMINDS ME OF
storm jungle
N-NO!
serene jungle
THANK YOU
rotund siren
yeah boi
visual pumice
they've got that vibe
serene jungle
Literally monster of the week
storm jungle
THEY LITERALLY LOOK THE SAME
rotund siren
NO WAY
visual pumice
powerful
rotund siren
LMFAO
storm jungle
DUDE LOL
serene jungle
they look like foamy cardboard play
I can totally see them do cheesy telegraphed maneuvers
weak fern
storm jungle
visual pumice
storm jungle
damn bro he be floatin'
serene jungle
What the fuck is that
storm jungle
watch out
visual pumice
how do he fly
serene jungle
Nosferatu in space?
visual pumice
chaos lord with jump pack tm
rotund siren
how do he fly
so many antigrav generators
serene jungle
No that's nosferatu with a power armor
rotund siren
just so many
cloud kindle
i agree with ogryn buddy
visual pumice
ngl he cute though
serene jungle
i agree with ogryn buddy
storm jungle
ngl he cute though
he kinda thicc though
serene jungle
ngl he cute though
Is that supposed to he Abaddon?
visual pumice
na
serene jungle
Whats that hammer even
rotund siren
he lookin like a snack
storm jungle
serene jungle
He looks like he is going to die like he lived
visual pumice
abbadon looks alright to me
serene jungle
Okay ngl that one's pretty dope even if he's bald with a tophat attachment
visual pumice
i'd put his fucking mask on him though
serene jungle
Would rather see him with a helmet
visual pumice
gulliman's helmet is dope aswell
serene jungle
also Archaon in AoS
visual pumice
he's doing it to em
serene jungle
rotund siren
https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/totalwarhammer_gamepedia/images/a/ae/Archaon_t...
He got the drip
serene jungle
Hes the horny we need.
No please I still haven't recovered from when EA mutilated him
serene jungle
He looks like what Black Legion even aspires to look like
atomic pelican
I love Archaons AoS model
visual pumice
i miss his old helmet
serene jungle
But my god his title in AoS though
cerulean wagon
his aos model is sick, i do however miss his horse
serene jungle
Grand High Marshall of Chaos
storm jungle
lmao
atomic pelican
Oh that one
storm jungle
thats so bad
serene jungle
🤮
storm jungle
Arch Commodore of Chaos
serene jungle
What were they thinking
cerulean wagon
visual pumice
Big man
serene jungle
From Northern Warlord to in-between universe warlord
🐴
rotund siren
horse got that chaos ass-stamp too
IT'S CALLED A BRAND YOU HORNY FUCK
visual pumice
😳
visual pumice
smh
rotund siren
IT WAS A VERY NORMAL WAY TO MAKE SURE ANIMALS COULD BE IDENTIFIED
storm jungle
IT'S CALLED A BRAND YOU HORNY FUCK
My response: https://youtu.be/CV_jV0Be63A?t=16
cloud kindle
i want to find the edit where abbadons top knot is massive and hes like will no one rid me of this meddlesome warrior
BEEP BEEP
rotund siren
My response: https://youtu.be/CV_jV0Be63A?t=16
I do not fuck mothers
cloud kindle
i just sat in the car for a good 30 seconds when that happened to me
was like
the fuck.
visual pumice
My response: https://youtu.be/CV_jV0Be63A?t=16
i love the one where the guy gets noclipped through the ground
serene jungle
All the frustration Dilara has whenever I do a daily reminder
novel fulcrum
although that was more for letting evil ghosts out of each others' heads supposedly, so
storm jungle
i just sat in the car for a good 30 seconds when that happened to me
Machine Spirits Be Like
Techpriest: Johnny see what happened? That ship just fired a blackhole cannon. How strange. Ah well.
cloud kindle
ships just like: Fuck off im trying to sleep.
visual pumice
ass stamp
storm jungle
🏇
cloud kindle
HERESY
visual pumice
ass brand
serene jungle
Dilara plz
storm jungle
SDKSDF
rotund siren
;-;
visual pumice
ass brand stamp
storm jungle
ass brand stamp
An ass-brand is a permanent burn made by a hot branding iron on a guy's boy-buns
so it IS the same thing
rotund siren
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
storm jungle
cerulean wagon
storm jungle
serene jungle
KILL THE DARK ELDAR
FLAY IT ALIVE
WEAR ITS SKIN
aaaaaaaaAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
storm jungle
Good shit.
cloud kindle
the new reaction image i stole from here today whenever i see something about the black rage
rotund siren
FLAY IT ALIVE
wh- NECRON?
serene jungle
just random black rage stuff
rotund siren
lol
serene jungle
no go away yyou stupid flayers
rotund siren
storm jungle
This one is my favorite
visual pumice
rotund siren
wow we all got different favorites
visual pumice
the one at the front is the least egregious
rotund siren
ew
rotund siren
but they dancin'
serene jungle
How is that wolverine?
rotund siren
indeed
rotund siren
How is that wolverine?
claws
visual pumice
feet
serene jungle
His arms look like the antennas you would place on old-ass TV's
or claws as you would call them
They don't even look like claws
they look more like the attachments of a diode
Like do you connect him to a circuitboard
serene jungle
Everyone else clearly has claws in that picture
His are more like pointy sticks
It's not even an angle-photo thing
serene jungle
So you're saying both of them just happened to be in the exact angle that you can just see them as a straight line?
serene jungle
it's more like they took the photo, sproused up the colors etc as they would and just erased what was supposed to be behind the claws
And you're just horny
heretic
storm jungle
vagrant osprey
claw connoisseur?
Please. Clawnoisseur.
serene jungle
I actually uh prefer... the old scouts
summer niche
and yeah they don't look like initiates anymore
serene jungle
They just look like normal marines with smaller legs
cloud kindle
eat your primaris or you wont get your xenos models
serene jungle
I mean, an artist should paint out how thin their legs are on top of all that armor
cloud kindle
in the grim dankness of the 21st millennium there is only primaris models
serene jungle
So when will the story move forward? ETA?
cloud kindle
in bout another decade
serene jungle
Or are they going to do the whole Gothic Fleet game thing sorta deal?
Would be nice to hear some references in Darktide
cloud kindle
i want to have my boy spire canon
serene jungle
Since the whole zombiehorde thing is Typhus thing
cloud kindle
just curious is typhus a daemon prince or just a really fucked up marine
serene jungle
It's just sad there is so much UI things on the foreground on top of the game*
Because if you do not pay attention to that
The background in those games are so god damned gorgeous and fantastic
summer niche
It's just sad there is so much UI things on the foreground on top of the game*
ahh
wa about to ask what the hell you were trying to type
lmao
serene jungle
Like especially when you fight Tyranids or go into some meteor fields
Because holyshit it really feels like you are staring into the universe/space
summer niche
ye
serene jungle
So fantastic
serene jungle
But the UI clutters it so badly you don't pay attention to it
cloud kindle
fuckin dealing with the nid hiveship
summer niche
Yeah it's fantastic
cloud kindle
eventually just ran away with my lances firing
summer niche
many of them just gave me shivers
serene jungle
I just
cloud kindle
rip white scars
serene jungle
I just want to punt the writer who made the story that Creed got swiped by a god damned Necron
cloud kindle
i like in the meeting with creed cawl was running numbers on creed
if he would accept the proposal and the chances of success killing him there or sending a skitarii force
summer niche
haven't seen much memes about creed hiding baneblades lately
cloud kindle
i mean the good news is creed survived
cloud kindle
i mean trayzin nabbed him
so hes alive
might be let out of the pokeball when the story requires
summer niche
depends if he can be exchanged for something more enticing
serene jungle
Oh you meant that
No he's essentially out of the story
Which is why I want to punt him
cloud kindle
soon as he is out astropaths across the imperium just hear CREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEED shouted across the warp
serene jungle
the writer for that story
cloud kindle
i mean im just glad that we got some closure for now and not ambiguous he might have lived or died there
he will prob be stolen back by the blood ravens when they find solomance
is it solomance?
solemnance
dim totem
scholomance?
green cradle
https://tenor.com/view/primaris-button-primaris-space-marine-warhammer40k-belisa...
I need the source on this
storm jungle
I need the source on this
crisp heath
OH GOD
me too
i almost screamed
going over battlescribe trying to make a lamenters list
christ man
its fucking nuts
summer niche
ehehe
serene jungle
induring one of the missions in Darktide has a twist where we get saved from a single primaris
just to sell the point of the figures
shudder
celest dome
Not just a Primaris, a Primaris Lieutenant
crisp heath
I mean, a chaos marine could be a boss or large enemy.
celest dome
It work as a Lord/Monster yes
Death Guard or maybe a Nurglite Warband that isn't much blessed by Nurgle
vernal belfry
I panicked for a second thinking that was a new video for more primaris stuff
Same ! Holy shit
open marsh
Fuck... More sob stories
I like SoB. They are wonderfully batshit insane. I'm hoping the stories have chaos sisters
primal tide
Fuck... More sob stories
Give us less SoB stories, more SoS stories
open marsh
Would be cool to have a book about the formation of the SoS and then a sequel about their reinstatement
coarse mirage
Would be cool to have a book about the formation of the SoS and then a sequel ab...
The Emperor's Legion and the following 2 books?
open marsh
Did those feature the events in question, or only briefly went over them and were more about their organization after their founding / refounding?
coarse mirage
Did those feature the events in question, or only briefly went over them and wer...
One of the characters for all three is a SoS and goes through her and her order being reinstanted and what's up on Luna
open marsh
Yeah, so a brief retelling.
spoiler: I already read those books >n>
I mean like. A story featuring like, a force being set out to gather the future sisters of battle
I want to see the expressions that the sisters had upon being refounded. As those ancient relicquaries of SoS armour were reopening for the first time in 10,000 years
coarse mirage
~~spoiler: I already read those books~~ >n>
You sure are a wonder to talk to.
open marsh
crisp heath
has anyone ever thought about how the change in atmospheric pressure in a drop pod would affect things and how it would be mitigated
like
being in a droppod overall can't be nice
open marsh
Its why only troops like Astartes can use them
crisp heath
yeah
open marsh
Their armour auto-regulates pressure. Its how they can go in and out of void ships without dying
crisp heath
the armor would most likely deal with it as it has its own oxygen supply etc
but still
peak hamlet
What i dont get is how they survive the impact
Its not like they slow down or anything
They even have thrusters to hit the ground even harder
crisp heath
probably internal systems in the drop pod
peak hamlet
I mean if you "drop" something from the orbit and its increasing in speed shouldn't the drop pod just get crushed? Or at least the marines inside their suits?
crisp heath
and that the momentum-caused movement would be minimal as they're kind of strapped in
the drop pod, if it's hard enough, no. but it should create fucking big craters
depends on speed
but it might
should, probably
vast frigate
the droppod was somewhere noted that it has a ''free floating'' internal cage
crisp heath
that would make sense
vast frigate
some kind of Golden Age mumbo jumbo plot device inside the pod keeps them floating until the pod slams
then it gently places them down
crisp heath
and the power armor probably has some suspension systems of its own
vast frigate
The chairs do
the power armor doesnt have internal suspension, it has shock dampeners
open marsh
What i dont get is how they survive the impact
Drop pods have small rocket engines on them that help make minor course corrections and slow the descent just enough before impact for the crew and pod to survive the landing undamaged
peak hamlet
and that the momentum-caused movement would be minimal as they're kind of strapp...
I mean the armor wont move that much but floaty stuff like guts or your brain will still take quite some damage from the sudden stop shouldn't they?
peak hamlet
the droppod was somewhere noted that it has a ''free floating'' internal cage
Huh ok weird
vast frigate
just imagine a magnetic lift probably
crisp heath
the power armor doesnt have internal suspension, it has shock dampeners
yeah that
i'm not an engineer
vast frigate
its fine
open marsh
Older drop pod designs could actually take off again
crisp heath
lift pod
peak hamlet
Yeah like those chaos claw things?
vast frigate
Bonk and Honk
crisp heath
drop your load and hit the road
peak hamlet
Yeah right
vast frigate
theyre coincidentally the only droppods used for ship to ship drops, as the claws can rend apart hulls
open marsh
theyre coincidentally the only droppods used for ship to ship drops, as the claw...
They just had a nasty habit of killing the occupants, cause the machine spirit got angy
crisp heath
if you were to put a non-SM in a drop pod would they die on impact
peak hamlet
Now! Tyranid drop pods! How do they survive? They dont have this weird no-gravity-inside-thingy
vast frigate
Now! Tyranid drop pods! How do they survive? They dont have this weird no-gravit...
space nid bullshit
peak hamlet
Aight
vast frigate
some nids are even capable of liquifying themselves and re-assembling
peak hamlet
Wait what?
vast frigate
if you were to put a non-SM in a drop pod would they die on impact
on that, there are civilian droppods
crisp heath
its like when you toss a bug off the balcony and it survives the fall
vast frigate
they fly slower and have a larger suspension cage
peak hamlet
some nids are even capable of liquifying themselves and re-assembling
Where did you read that?
vast frigate
its something that was mentioned when the toxic pits are explained
''some seemingly reassembling later on and retaining memories''
open marsh
Now! Tyranid drop pods! How do they survive? They dont have this weird no-gravit...
Same way their ships are actually just big nids, yet said big nids have no issues being exposed to the vaccum and exotic radiation of space
peak hamlet
its like when you toss a bug off the balcony and it survives the fall
Thats because its too light/falls too slow to take damage
Or i just missed a joke
In that case my bad
crisp heath
yes it was a joke
vast frigate
heehoo
peak hamlet
Ouch
peak hamlet
😔
vast frigate
My personal favorite use of droppods is still with the Ursus Claws Ship melee
peak hamlet
its something that was mentioned when the toxic pits are explained
Oh yeah
I thought there was some kind of weird slime nid that can change shape or something
vast frigate
For your information right, the Ursus claw is a titan-weapon that is normally used to launch at an enemy titan and then tear off one of its weapons in the process
Or, if its a boarding claw, drill in and release boarding parties
Angron had warlord titan variants mounted in his torpedo bays and assault batteries
peak hamlet
Jesus
vast frigate
You just have to imagine a ship getting so close you cant fire your ordinance anymore, right?
they are so close the void shields merge, if any party fires, the debris will take out both of you
Suddenly, They literally fucking tether the ships together with titan grade grappling hooks and you hear reports of angron barreling down the halls
Im not joking, this is a genuine maneuver the world eaters pulled and its fucking hilarious
They are so fucking Angy that they MELEE The enemy ship
vast frigate
Angron's ship was an ironclad with voidshields
peak hamlet
Imagine the other ship slows down or speeds up and all of those break off
vast frigate
<ironclads are normally ships with no void shields but with a ridiculous amount of armor plating>
Well thats the fun thing right
What happens if you try to tear those hooks off? you ruin one entire side of your ship
peak hamlet
They don't look that solid to me :/
vast frigate
Theyre strong enough to tear the prow from another ship
In one of the books which actually depicts ship combat they fly by, fire 8 hooks into the enemy prow and pull it off
peak hamlet
But again thats just lore fluff because in a "realistic" fight you could just take his ship out with lances from a safe distance
Like 20km or something
vast frigate
youd think that
again he didnt just have void shields, it was an ironclad ontop of that
So even if you manage to take out his shields, its now just a flying battering ram thats about to knock on your door
crisp heath
if it's so heavily armoured it's very much possible that it would withstand so much ordinance until it closes in on you
vast frigate
Of course,
i agree with that completely
But we are talking about ships that can jump to fractions of light speed
peak hamlet
Ramming is almost certainly not going to happen
peak hamlet
But we are talking about ships that can jump to fractions of light speed
Not very accurately tho
vast frigate
let me get one thing across here
peak hamlet
Cuz warp stupid
peak hamlet
How large is that thing? Lmao
vast frigate
The Conquerer is one of the largest ships the imperium had
peak hamlet
Escorts are like 1,5 km lmao
vast frigate
and thats to note, the emperors flagship, the largest battleship to have existed, exceeds 1700 km long
peak hamlet
The Conquerer is one of the largest ships the imperium had
Na the word bearers had the largest ones, lemme find
vast frigate
then again the emperos flagship is the same ship that can literally take on entire fleets on its own and has titans as its main deck defenses against boarders
vast frigate
Na the word bearers had the largest ones, lemme find
One of the, not THE largest space marine ship
peak hamlet
vast frigate
Im aware, dont worry
Chances are angrons ship was a gloriana
the thing is, it was so ridiculously over-armored that the engines had to be refitted to be able to normally speed up
His specific demands were to be able to be sent so close to the enemy he could jump from his deck to theirs
peak hamlet
I also love how those ships only have thrusters on the back, like how do they stop?
vast frigate
Retro thrusters are in many side points on the ships
peak hamlet
Yeah on the sides only right?
vast frigate
Let me show you something
This is fan art, but the writer of the custodes books commented on how it fits his vision
those small bois beside it are Emperor classes
peak hamlet
Yeah i was talking gw designs
vast frigate
Now, this is just for scale
but it represents the custodes flagship
its a low res, but it has a warlord titan strolling over an open place on the deck
peak hamlet
Like if they have thrusters on the front they are too small to be seen and thus would take an eternity to get the ship to stop
vast frigate
Youd be surprised
storm jungle
Oh boy Big E's flagship
vast frigate
Pumping the brakes of a vehicle stops you quicker due to every time you hit the brakes again, you have to employ less force because you have already slowed down before
its basically: You slow down, release the brakes, now the brakes will be slowing you down BETTER next time you push them because of the fact that youre already stalling a little
its a curing effect where the more you pump the brakes, the faster you will go... slower
summer niche
this will forever remind me of that starwars pasta of that huge imperial vessel
lemme find it
enjoy the read
it's very entertaining
vast frigate
Oh yeah
summer niche
makes fun of the logistics of ships too big
storm jungle
does 40k fit into that category lol
vast frigate
The issue with large ships is very apparent
we did the math on walking from one side to another in a space marine cruiser
34.7 hours
primal tide
Why would you have to do that tho
vast frigate
¯_(ツ)_/¯
primal tide
Lol
vast frigate
it shows that travel time from one end of the ship to another, with vehicles, is still retarded
primal tide
retarded
Yikes
vast frigate
words exist with reason get over it
primal tide
The fuck does that even mean?
vast frigate
That you can use context to realize it doesnt have any form of malicious meaning beyond the target it is pointed at
primal tide
It's still an offensive word, whether you are trying to be mean with it or not
vast frigate
Depends on if you want it to be, i disconnect the word from the insult as i dont use it for the very reason people find it offensive
again you can ignore it
primal tide
Seems like quite a few hoops when you could just use just about any other word in a server where we're supposed to be nice to each other
vast frigate
it seems that youre choosing to make an issue out of it though
Sorry we really have completely different views on this. Some words you of course pretty much don't want to use, but i dont include this one in it
storm jungle
primal tide
I mean yeah, I chose to say something because it bothers me
vast frigate
I respect that,
primal tide
Idk, I'm not super well spoken so I'm sure someone else could make the case better than me, but I'd throw that word in with other discriminatory words that shouldn't be used around here
vast frigate
i wouldnt but again, thats where we differ ¯_(ツ)_/¯
primal tide
Sure, so why not err on the side of being nice?
primal tide
I mean, it's disrespectful and can be pretty hurtful so that's not at all true
final spruce
Ill just say that Elysis whatver YOU think of it, its still something Incan has already talked about
vast frigate
ah,mwell if its been discussed before then thats that
open marsh
Most conversations here are repeats of previous conversations
vast frigate
yeah
storm jungle
Hm. Pain.
open marsh
storm jungle
serene jungle
you mean that it's Pain-peko
visual pumice
cerulean wagon
me honestly
visual pumice
i beg for the freedom of empty head
rotund siren
all thoughts, head jumbled
open marsh
all thoughts, head jumbled
mood
ashen zenith
odd sparrow
yea the blurb is pretty good
gives u the right general vibe
plus the video that dude made for it is great
serene jungle
What would the commoner in the 41st millennium eat on a regular day
Assuming they are in a position similar to all of us chatting in here
Would they just eat burgers as normally as we do or?
I'm trying to get some inspirations 😄
cloud kindle
nothing but amasec
serene jungle
a what now
serene jungle
So you're saying I should make a cake with beer in it
final spruce
Would they just eat burgers as normally as we do or?
By commoner do you mean lower or middle class ?
serene jungle
hm, I mean I'd like to know both
final spruce
Well the lower class is usually the one feeding on rations by the state, rats or their equivalent on the planet, corpse starch like aforementionned.
Middle class actually get to eat stuff pretty similar to us, they get to eat crops products, drink some amasec, have some recaff
Sometimes meat aswell
cloud kindle
tfw no grox tendies
cerulean wagon
it entirely deoends on the planet
dim totem
What does the imperium's middle class do lol
Have semi successful business ventures?
Tile roofs after work and on weekends?
dim totem
Organize pottery classes
gaunt vector
the existence and nature of a middle class would depend on the world
dim totem
Live in a semi detached house with a lawn
final spruce
Nah they still live in huge buildings
dim totem
Work in a callcenter but being a bit of a penny turner so you can save for I don't know a gravcar
final spruce
Its an appartment but atleast youve got a rooth and warmtg
dim totem
I think it's fascinating though
cerulean wagon
thats only if the planet has a hive zherlum
could be a garden world or something which just has little picturesque villages
dim totem
Neat
final spruce
Right but since he said the average citizen and most of humanity lives in hive cities I thought thatd be the most fair assesment
dim totem
Drinking corpse cider on the village green
vagrant osprey
Corpse starch makes literally no goddamn sense, except as a way to make things extra dark. :V
storm jungle
Pretty much.
Like you can make a lot easier alternatives for consumption while still keeping the options shitty.
The combine are LEAGUES ahead of the imperium on that department
barren tapir
Right but since he said the average citizen and most of humanity lives in hive c...
Most of humanity live on "civilised world" type of worlds though... Hive worlds are 10% of all the imperium worlds iirc
Oh crap, i may have forgot to turn off the ping
final spruce
10% of all the imperium worlds yes
But they are by far the most populated ones
Since they are literally human farms for the Imperium
So I wouldnt be surprised if alone they contained alteast 40% of humanity
barren tapir
From the 10% to the 25%... They may not be a small number after all
Estimated 32380 hive worlds in the imperium...
cerulean wagon
thats not a lot
vagrant osprey
Hive worlds probably contain more than 99% of humanity.
barren tapir
Ok that i didn't expected coherency for such lore, but FFS GW
storm jungle
And to think some people still say GW knows numbers when it comes to this lol
vagrant osprey
GW does not know numbers.
storm jungle
cerulean wagon
smoll empire
storm jungle
considering the imperium's "borders" are the entirety of the milky way galaxy that is quite the number : )
vagrant osprey
The official diagram of a hive city is a narrow spire jutting out of the ground, which is described as being 10 miles tall and 50 miles wide in spite of them having apparently gotten the "tall" and "wide" swapped.
barren tapir
rhat would mean the imperoum is only 130-300k worlds
Yup, something isn't right, both of those info cannot be right
cerulean wagon
its because the entire hive isnt part if the spires
darktide trailer does a good job of showing this
vagrant osprey
That's what artists have done to fix it, Skeleton
cerulean wagon
central spite is massive, but the urban sprawl is even bigger
barren tapir
Also, it seems that there are hive worlds that have around 1.000.000.000 population... Which should be like a billion?
storm jungle
vagrant osprey
The official diagrams show an absence of sprawl, and point to parts INSIDE the spire as being the sprawl. The older art actually depicts them like this a few times.
rotund siren
that looks cool as fuck, but the logistics sure are 40k
barren tapir
considering the imperium's "borders" are the entirety of the milky way galaxy th...
We should also remember that while the imperium claim that he has all that territory under its control it is in reality worse than a swiss cheese (the one with holes)... We have chaos worlds in the segmentum solar FFS
storm jungle
Oh yeah absolutely
final spruce
- we know a hive world is made of multiple hive city clusters, each composed of 3 to 12 hive cities
vagrant osprey
Necromunda has 1000 hive clusters
storm jungle
what, is the entire planet hollow and also made of metal?
Careful
theres actually a planet like that
vagrant osprey
No, there's plenty of metal.
barren tapir
Ah, here it is, fenksworld... In the calixis sector, an hive world with 1,000,000,000 population
vagrant osprey
That would make Alaska seem choked with life.
That would make the GOBI seem overpopulated
vast frigate
Like if you build a proper hive city you can fit a billion people in it just fine
Its all about utilizing your space
Arcology continents arent undoable
Just hard
vagrant osprey
Arcologies have to produce their own food because it's logistically impossible to supply them from outside.
Guess what hive planets canonically don't do? :V
vast frigate
Its 40k
So many people turned into soilent green solves at least part of the ossue
Issue*
vagrant osprey
That doesn't solve any issues, it just makes larger ones.
vast frigate
In a "perfect" setup, everyone has a vegetable garden with their home as well
storm jungle
But yeah before this gets fucky I'm just gonna say:
The population is as much as the plot demands
GW is stupid cant can literally count beyond "billion"
vast frigate
Yes
cerulean wagon
Guess what hive planets canonically don't do? :V
hive planets produce food tho
vagrant osprey
1: Where?
cerulean wagon
they have aquatic cultures
final spruce
They have their own cultures inside
cerulean wagon
thry just grow food
vagrant osprey
I haven't seen any mention of that.
final spruce
Sadly thats not enough to feed everybody
vagrant osprey
It's logically required, but that has never stopped GW
final spruce
Well we do know that Agri Worlds exist to sustain hive cities
barren tapir
These are exactly the values used by americans and english
A billion is a number with two distinct definitions:
1,000,000,000, i.e. one thousand million, or 109 (ten to the ninth power), as defined on the short scale. This is now the meaning in both British and American English. 1,000,000,000,000, i.e. one million million, or 1012 (ten to the twelfth power), as defined on the long scale. This is one thousand times larger than the short scale billion, and equivalent to the short scale trillion. This is the historical meaning in English and the current use in many non-English-speaking countries where billion and trillion 1018 (ten to the eighteenth power) maintain their long scale definitions.
cerulean wagon
Its mentioned in a few books, off the top of my head i know atleast ciaphas brings it up and i'm pretty sure some of the necromunda maps are old overgrown aqua farms
but yes, agriworlds are the more viable way to sustain stuff
barren tapir
Well we do know that Agri Worlds exist to sustain hive cities
Well, not really, they exist because they are worlds with extreme fertile soil, and so they have been turned to giant farms... Then, since they produce food in huge quantity they send that food to planets that have to import food, and the hive worlds are at the top of the list of such worlds
vast frigate
Okay sorry but
"Its logically required but that doesnt stop gw" you can make assumptions dude