Lmao
#40k-lore-chat
primal tide
primal tide
The warp rots ye brain
dim totem
so heresy invites the warp in your brain?
im genuinely curious bc i think heretics are interesting but half the time they look like such numbskulls
peak hamlet
Wait is "10110" supposed to form the whole sentence? Lmao
primal tide
Wait is "10110" supposed to form the whole sentence? Lmao
I think it's just shorthand indicating he's talking in binaric?
peak hamlet
That would make way more sense
primal tide
so heresy invites the warp in your brain?
It's always different, but the pattern follows that opening your mind/heart/whatever to chaos has a mind altering effect
peak hamlet
But how is the khorne dude supposed to understand him tho
primal tide
I'm not sure he does
peak hamlet
Good point
primal tide
Seeing as he isn't speaking in blood/anger
storm jungle
It's always different, but the pattern follows that opening your mind/heart/what...
Yeee its why like you cant be a normal person while still worshipping chaos
that crack is gonna get into your head!
primal tide
Ye it's bad medicine
plucky moth
the traitor regiment were all former gamers
dim totem
lol
dim totem
we must analyze their posture in the trailer
coarse mirage
Is it true that GW has funded a project by the Astartes group?
barren tapir
Wasn't astartes made by just one guy?
peak hamlet
Is it true that GW has funded a project by the Astartes group?
Where did you guys hear that?
cerulean wagon
yes
open marsh
The 9e trailer was so representative of GW rn.
coarse mirage
Also, what the fuck
open marsh
Ultramarines, Our Martyred Lady, and Cadian guardsmen
open marsh
Also, what the fuck
He climb up it and did that while it was distracted
When he didnt have any support, he actually ran
coarse mirage
That doesn't make it any better
barren tapir
I had my reservation about that comic from the start, but with each now bit that i meet i can say it is garbage
open marsh
ive read the whole thing. i rather liked it
barren tapir
I know, we had some discussion about it
coarse mirage
you dont pull the head off a daemon engine of khorne
cerulean wagon
welp
aparently we do now
just stealthily climb it in your 1 ton armour
without being noticed
and simply pry its head clean off
vast frigate
the art is good, the depictions are nice
but.... yknow.... the actual comics are questionable
coarse mirage
Modern writing, all style and no substance.
open marsh
40k is british anime. and anime things happen
cerulean wagon
no, wallace and gromit is british anime
barren tapir
Wallace and gromit are amazing
cerulean wagon
yes
cunning lantern
How usable defence does a wall of psychic energy provides? Just asking as in Dawn of War - Winter Assault there is such a wall surrounding a titan which is being digged up by Imperial forces.
cerulean wagon
it can project a near solid defence
just takes a lot of psychic energy
usualy best powered by a choir of astropaths
cunning lantern
There are sort of "spires" along the wall where there are chained psykers if I remember it correctly
cerulean wagon
mhmm
open marsh
How usable defence does a wall of psychic energy provides? Just asking as in *Da...
I love the Imperial Guard ending to that
odd sparrow
don't make me post the elf hate meme
plucky moth
"I hate elves" is latin for "I'm really lonely"
cunning lantern
Bah, Ork ending is the canon one
primal tide
Nobody hates elves more than other, slightly different elves
vagrant osprey
The Calgar comic is an in-universe comic distributed as propaganda. Change my mind 
celest dome
Knowing Warhammer there must be Propaganda Comics about the Primarch
primal tide
Imagine the immense pressure put upon the artist to craft a faithful depiction of the primarchs
The pun was not intended but it pleases me
primal tide
Lorgar laughing in the corner
median sundial
Everyoneâs going âEFBERVBHRVJSIVNRJVRVNVEVNJEJ ULTRAMARINE MAN CANâT RIP HEAD OF BIG ROBOT!?!?!?â and Iâm just over accepting the fact a Chapter Master of the Ultramarines could just sorta do that because Iâve submitted to the fact that this franchise is kinda stupid and thatâs why Iâm here.
storm jungle
gaunt vector
Blood Angels
wicked moss
you sir/ma'am are into goth women
gaunt vector
the fastest edit in the west
final spruce
Chem Dogs
wicked moss
yee haw
gaunt vector
I also am into Space Vampires
I'm building them as my first ever army
open marsh
Poll: Whats your favorite SM Chapter
Consecrators
wicked moss
đș with a side of wolf boyz
your either a furry or really into vikings, or both
wicked moss
Consecrators
you have good taste!
open marsh
gaunt vector
I dont know who that is
they are a guard regiment
storm jungle
im glad they got acknowledged and got primaris reinforcements too tbh
wicked moss
The Lamenters are pretty neat.
you are the guy who can never catch a break, even though you try your hardest
crisp heath
Love them for it. I can't lie when I say I am a bit of a noblebright person. They seem like true heroes who sadly have to suffer for it.
wicked moss
Also a fan of the imperial fists
crisp heath
Astral Knights would be cool if they weren't doomed since the World Engine.
wicked moss
"I just like buildin shit" - Rogal Dorn
crisp heath
What is the flaw in the Imperial Fists again?
wicked moss
they cant spit acid?
I think?
and also theyre gene seed is fucked so they take dudes from successor chapters
crisp heath
So they can't spit acid, have to adopt, and have a masochism streak?
final seal
blood ravens because i was introduced to 40k by DoW1
median sundial
Poll: Whats your favorite SM Chapter
Loyalist: Iâd say Salamanders, and maybe Dark Angels.
Traitor: I dunno, Emperorâs Children for the Noise Marines probably or Thousands Suns for their Egyptian look and possible tragic innocence
wicked moss
So they can't spit acid, have to adopt, and have a masochism streak?
I JUST WANNA PLAY THE RED DEAD 2 BUILDING THEME AND DEFEND MY HOUSE MAN
wicked moss
blood ravens because i was introduced to 40k by DoW1
AYYY MY FELLOW KLEPTO
final seal
they're cool and angelos can fucking jump in termie armor
median sundial
Loyalist: Iâd say Salamanders, and maybe Dark Angels.
Traitor: I dunno, Emperorâ...
Dark Angels come from the fact I played Deathwing and theyâre the most Ultramarine-y without being Ultramarines, and Salamanders for the lore.
final seal
AYYY MY FELLOW KLEPTO
looting relic weapons in dow2 never been so realistic to chapter's kleptomania
crisp heath
I also really liked the Tome Keepers chapter that came out in White Dwarf a bit ago. I like the idea of a bunch of warrior scholars who try to keep a non-propaganda recording of history.
barren tapir
Imperial fist don't have the spit acid implant and the one that let them go into coma, they still can recruit normally
crisp heath
Ah ok.
wicked moss
Khornes boys are always gonna be my favorite traitor faction
dull flame
rotund siren
wow
coarse mirage
Reminds me of a scene from Animatrix
rotund siren
that's cool
limpid hedge
Kreig death riders are pretty neat
azure laurel
best books to read?
summer niche
ahh
well, pretty much everything from teh horus heresy is space marines
i'm a bit more unsure of current timeline stuff though
azure laurel
yeah was looking for something more recent.
summer niche
i'm afrid i'm not much help at that point
open marsh
well, pretty much everything from teh horus heresy is space marines
There is also Mechanicum and Imperial Army vs Traitor Army
summer niche
still feels like the majority is space marines
summer niche
oh yeah
right
that lil knight story
i forgot about that
it was pretty alright
vagrant osprey
best books to read?
For the lore? Master of Mankind, Mechanicum, Prospero burns.
storm jungle
wouldnt those be incredibly confusing without any context
cerulean wagon
most of the HH books are stand alone pmuch
id honestly suggest only the first 3 tho
frosty tulip
Horus rising I find to be a very enjoyable read. also brings a lot of the humanity. which at the end of the day kinda was the downfall of the primarchs.. when you exclude FUCKING LORGAR.
For a heretical approach. I recommend most of the books from Aaron Dembski bowden. Just dont read his stuff about loyalists... as he seems to have quite the hate boner for em.
Granted the way I view most of these books is as high propaganda for each spesific faction in focus. Thus a book about the heretics, will paint them in a better light.
cerulean wagon
i'd recommend some other stuff as well but he's requested specifically marines so thats about where it ends for me
frosty tulip
The soul drinkers series is.. odd but good.
Talon of horus, if you want failbaddon the armless. to actualy be a bit cool for once.
hallow apex
You want marines to be fuck yeah?
Helsreach, Aaron Dempski Bowden. Betrayer, Aaron Dempski Bowden.
If you want more bolter porn, Guy Haleyâs stuff is good.
That said, most of my intake is audible.
primal tide
Battle for the abyss turns into ||die hard||, which I really enjoyed
restive turtle
We all know C.S. Goto is the undisputed Lord Supreme Author out there
primal tide
đ©
coarse mirage
Are there 40k books not revolving around war? Murder mysteries, dramas, and other stuff? I knownits a weird thing to say about 40k but space marines shooting at things gets boring
plucky moth
^
crisp heath
there was a set of detective stories at one point
i can't recall what they were called
also ravenor is kind of a continuation of eisenhorn
cerulean wagon
If you go to the black library website they have started sectioning it into categories
its pretty much brand new but this exists
cerulean wagon
also ravenor is kind of a continuation of eisenhorn
i mean, its a sequal so yeah
ashen zenith
id honestly suggest only the first 3 tho
I cant remember which one it is but one of the first books is hyper omega boring I remember
cerulean wagon
book 4 most likely, flight of the eisenstein
primal tide
i liked FotE but it is slower
im up thru book 11 or 12? and theres been a couple duds but its been enjoyable thus far
honestly fulgrim was 75% snoozefest, 25% awesome for me
the stuff that i liked i really liked, but the rest of it was kind of slow and boring
cerulean wagon
i honestly have read the first 5
primal tide
id probably rate it the lowest of the ones ive read
cerulean wagon
and i just have no interest after part 3
primal tide
legion gets memed for "i am alpharius" but i unabashedly love it
and mechanicum was a wild ride from start to finish
id say fulgrim and the 1st dark angels books were the worst so far, the rest i enjoyed for the most part
tho i do the audiobook, so my scale may be different than others simply by nature of it being something i enjoy while doing something else
primal tide
ork chaplain
restive turtle
That's.... A lot of blue
primal tide
blues lucky, innit
restive turtle
You aren't gonna score Headshots on these boyz
final seal
the boy at the center is wielding a... plasma bazooka?
primal tide
actually, its a zoggin big shoota is what it is
final seal
i think thier facepaint inspired a little from braveheart
plush mason
i think thier facepaint inspired a little from braveheart
thats a dangeros comparison to make
storm jungle
oh god this reminds me of cyberpunk
you meet a guy who has a grenade for a nose and hes like "hey it'll go off one day, ill have to life my day the best i can until then"
most orky thing ever
plush mason
oh god this reminds me of cyberpunk
i heared you could trun yourself into a furry in cyberpunk
final seal
you meet a guy who has a grenade for a nose and hes like "hey it'll go off one d...
i like that guy, i didnt punch his nose during the brawl
storm jungle
i heared you could trun yourself into a furry in cyberpunk
Firstly, gross but sadly yes.
Secondly, yep in-lore people have turned themselves into antromorphic stuff and even fantasy races like elves and orcs as a fashion statement.
plush mason
lol
storm jungle
which is really realistic memes aside
plush mason
yes it is
final seal
yeah in cyberpunk, people are encouraged to be what they want
cerulean wagon
GW embracing the memes i see
they always do
plush mason
yeah in cyberpunk, people are encouraged to be what they want
thats transhumanism ina nutshell
storm jungle
they always do
like
if im not mistaken that was just for that one planet in a book wasnt it?
cerulean wagon
yes it was
but unfortunatley GW have gone full meme on most lore
ever read the infantrymans uplifting primer?
cerulean wagon
its the worst cause
people will say IG arent allowed to know anything about their enemies or they get shot
then quote primer for rules on what can get u shot by a commissar
storm jungle
some of the parts in that primer were really terrible yeah
cerulean wagon
but primer actualy gives guardsmen info on all the races
not 100% accurate info but it straight mentions necrons and chaos
plush mason
afaik its only chaos they arent allowed to know about
storm jungle
Yeee and even then it changes from person to person and regiment to regiment
plush mason
xenos arent something they keep hidden
storm jungle
If i knew about chaos after gettign transferred to a new regiment i sure as hell wouldnt tell anyone shit
you'd get the looks etc
plush mason
yeah
storm jungle
so its a hard spot nonetheless
plush mason
makes you wonder what the cadians did when they where aiding non cadians
cerulean wagon
regiments tend not to intermix
and if they do they have more important things to discuss
like getting wasted or finding a brothel
plush mason
regiments tend not to intermix
oh i thought some divisions of different regiments would end up fighting in the same zones at times
final spruce
They sometimes do but its pretty rare or its because they need different expertise
cerulean wagon
oh i thought some divisions of different regiments would end up fighting in the ...
just because they fight in the same zone doesn't mean the troops will actualy mix
there tends to be inter regimental rivalry
cerulean wagon
yup
barren tapir
Regiments are know to fight each other but also make strong bonds... It is also know for regiments to share their POV with other regiments, especially if they fight in the same zone
plush mason
Regiments are know to fight each other but also make strong bonds... It is also ...
so just like today's collition armies lol
barren tapir
This is so dumb that fall under the universal law of "dumb lore isn't canon"
Other than the life expectancy on the frontline the rest is right though
How the hell GW think that the guard can do something if its soldiers die within a single day at the frontline is over dumb even by their standard
plush mason
i mean
the guard is over 1 trillion strong iirc
which billions apon billions more it can recruit from
vast frigate
also, remember that most weapons in 40k tear through 2/3 enemies at once
it makes sense due to the agressive scale
also, remember that its an AVERAGE
so, if a single front loses like, 50 million men, all within a few minutes of deployment
yaknow... its the same as your grades, they drop*
plush mason
50 million isnt alot when you think about the size of the imperial guard
hell thats less than the death toll of WW2
cerulean wagon
barely
plush mason
still
barren tapir
Also WW2 was 4 years of combat
storm jungle
This is so dumb that fall under the universal law of "dumb lore isn't canon"
You got it right as you always do Blank
ill follow this notion
plush mason
well he follows the imperial truth so ofc he gets it right
barren tapir
You got it right as you always do Blank
wicked moss
yo why the fuck the sisters of battle THAT thick?
odd sparrow
wut
wicked moss
you heard me
peak hamlet
Most early models sucked
plush mason
yes
and some of the more elite SoB may be genemodded a little
kinda like how some IG elites are
wicked moss
They could handle my heavy bolter IF YOU CATCH MUH DRIFT
plush mason
shhh you
wicked moss
too kill heritics and greenskins of course
plush mason
ofc
wicked moss
wait what were you thinking?
plush mason
nothing
twin pivot
Probably should try to smash something other than the Adepta Sororitas
considering one could probably crush you with her thighs
wicked moss
PROMISE?
peak hamlet
Begone heretic >:(
wicked moss
All im saying is, there is not a more just way to die
high fives all around at my funeral, my ghost is gonna be crip walking on my dreadnaught
storm jungle
TWINS THEY WERE
crisp heath
:(
plush mason
so i just thought of something
what if one of the hereteks made a cannon that fired shells that could warp jump
so they could just bombard any world they wanted to from the warp
vast frigate
so they could just bombard any world they wanted to from the warp
kind of unreliable, since you need a clear path through the warp and that doesnt exist
a navigator or warp seer is used with a reason for ships
plush mason
a navigator or warp seer is used with a reason for ships
even on a chaos ship?
vast frigate
Chaos is guided by... chaos!
barren tapir
There are some phase missiles though, but they are extremely rare and as now the imperium isn't capable to make them iirc
vast frigate
itd be more useable by the worshippers of chaos
barren tapir
On chaos ships the navigator is a possessed guy or even a demon itself
vast frigate
their god or a greater/larger demon could possibly sway the missile
plush mason
itd be more useable by the worshippers of chaos
i said heretek
thats a chaos tech priest
vast frigate
but again its very unlikely that itll be acurrate
im awarte
im including them in the thinking
plush mason
yeah but i doubt they would care
vast frigate
the only reason chaos ships can go where they need to is because of their demonized navigator indeed
they wouldnt but if they were for example exmployed by the iron fuckbois
well then youre in the situation that they dont want it to be a useless weapon
its not a bad idea, but unlike hyperspace torpedoes, this one has to travel through a maze instead
plush mason
thats what i was thinking
its just crazy enough to work so idk why they havent built one yet
well ofc
maybe they have and it failed compleatly
hallow apex
barren tapir
To put things under spoiler just use || before and after the phrase
Or just select the phrase and a pop up menu should appear
hallow apex
|| like this ||
barren tapir
Yep
hallow apex
Oh man thatâs great
barren tapir
And yes, what a f-ing reveal
hallow apex
|| Thank you. ||
barren tapir
And what about the other stuff that come with that revelation?
That army! F yes!
barren tapir
Eh, that part wasn't important to me... Astartes are tools
hallow apex
Worth the nine year wait
Weâre talking traitor and loyalist elements
Itâs just mind boggling
plush mason
so most imperial ships have these stainglass windows from what i have seen
i wonder if you can see the demons of the warp thru them
gaunt vector
In the Battlefleet Gothic PC games there is a cutscene about warp travell during a warp storm. It shows shutters coming down over the windows as the ship prepares to enter the warp. This implies that it is possible to see deamons through these windows and therefore ABSOLUTELY PROHIBITED.
plush mason
i wonder how many chaples are in one imperial battleship
gaunt vector
i wonder how many chaples are in one imperial battleship
yes
gaunt vector
well there are probably the ones that the captain knows about
then there will be the informal ones
then the secret ones
then the REALLY secret ones
then that last one all the way in the bottom of the hold that acts like a hive gang but the bridge doesn't even know they exist
and finnaly the chaos cult with like, 3 members in the engine room. All they do is have coffee mornigs and complain about techpriests
plush mason
i really want an animation that really goes into an indept look at one of those ships
gaunt vector
yeah
plush mason
i really love how most of these ships are literal flying hive citys
with the captian and the upper class officers living at the top and the lowist levels being in a near state of anrchy mostly
gaunt vector
yup. pretty much.
when the ship goes to warp, I wonder how much of the ship actually knows
plush mason
the captian the navigator and the helmsman knows
the upper officers maybe know something
gaunt vector
hopefully someone remembers to get the gellar field up and running
plush mason
the rest of the crew knows nothing
gaunt vector
I think as much of the crew as possible is warned
vagrant osprey
People could probably tell just from the shuddering and shaking of the ancient machines maintained only through ritual.
gaunt vector
but that may or may not be much
gaunt vector
but they dont know what is just beond the gellar fields
well they are kinda hecc'd if they find out what is beyond the gellar fields
plush mason
plus with the way the warp distorts time for most of the crew it could seems like only a few mins
gaunt vector
plus with the way the warp distorts time for most of the crew it could seems lik...
or a few decades
plush mason
yup
gaunt vector
and if they have recently irritated Magnus, then a few millenia
plush mason
each time you go to warp you are playing russian roulet
gaunt vector
pretty much
each time u exist in the Warhammer 40,000 universe u are playing russian roulete on all levels
gaunt vector
even the most safe position could suddenly have a chaos cult manage to summon a deamon or a genestealer cult summon a hive fleet, or dark eldar could dark eldar you. or a passing deamon in the warp could realise you are a psyker before you do or the local and somewhat heretical noble could just take ur head off out of boredom
plush mason
you could go to fire a weapon like this and bring down a titan onyl to have it blow up cuz you didnt sing to the mechine spirit well enough
gaunt vector
singing maintainance ritual
voice craks
core shielding ALSO CRAKS
your internal organs: aight bye
vast frigate
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/227242605195427840/815148479470239744/Adm...
this wouldnt be too far off from what actually happens lol
limpid hedge
you could go to fire a weapon like this and bring down a titan onyl to have it b...
It would be because someone else wasnât singing well enough
plush mason
yup
vast frigate
coz like, the adeptus mechanicus blast binary hymns when they work
plush mason
tbh
limpid hedge
Nah. They blast romantic poetry
plush mason
that meme is about what a real volcanio cannon would look like when it fired
just a massive beam of blinding light
and the gorkanought is no more
plush mason
is there an actual story to it?
vast frigate
Yeah? the entirety of helsreach?
plush mason
i have never heared of that lol
vast frigate
Check youtube
12 part series iirc
grit story animation
visuals are lower than youd expect from this amount of production, but its real good
plush mason
its 13
storm jungle
barren tapir
People on ships know when they are going into the warp, it was shown in gaunt's ghosts... When the jump is made it can be felt... And yes, it is said to the people to start praying very hard... With priests that patrol the corridors and rooms, to keep an eye on weird stuff but more to give spiritual support to people, since the feeling is always weird... Then there are the arbites, which increase their patrols too... And even commissars... It is a really serious thing...
Regarding the windows yes, you are capable to gaze upon the warp, but unless you are extremely strong by will you will go crazy... And yes, you can see the entities too... That is why windows have shunners... But there are also some windows that are shielded so that you can see the warp without going crazy too
cerulean wagon
most windows are shut bar the navigatorium as a precaution on ships
as a navigator will look with his 3rd eye and is therefor "safe" from the side effects
barren tapir
Yeah, it is no joke, and it is something that everyone can feel... It is also how some latent psykers are found and executed... They go more mad than normal in the first jump, they get a bullet in the head
cerulean wagon
the jump tends to be like a general sense of unease similair to vertigo in mild cases, you can also get used to it over time as u participate in more jumps but everyones first jump is usualy a less pleasant experience
storm jungle
are all warpjumps this bad?
barren tapir
Nope, this is also a quite good one
gaunt vector
are all warpjumps this bad?
only the ones that go well
barren tapir
In others you had to shoot demons that materialize for a sec...
storm jungle
barren tapir
In others you may have people going crazy
cerulean wagon
are all warpjumps this bad?
this is just the initial breach into the immaterial. windows stay closed ofc but once travel is underway it "smooths" out usualy
barren tapir
Navy armsman are quite experienced
cerulean wagon
similair to how initial take off in a plane has that general rumbling and that movement you can feel
storm jungle
Ah alright so its like a plane taking off but with more demonic influence
lmao jinx
barren tapir
Sometime, when it is a troop transport for the IG, regiments have to be put to use to repel some intruder too
cerulean wagon
what we described was a standard jump, but it can be more severe as blank has said
storm jungle
oh jeez
barren tapir
It is also a way to get blanks... While normally you feel bad in their presence you really want to be at their side when warp jumping
cerulean wagon
you could jump and overload the geller field for a split second, but that second is enough for a demon to manifest on the bridge
ofc you have trained personel for dealing with it
barren tapir
And once it is manifest it need bullets to go away
cerulean wagon
and full manifestations are rare
barren tapir
Yeah, mostly are like faint ghost, though they still get shooted
cerulean wagon
but its enough of an issue that any veteran has dealt with it at some point
barren tapir
It is a really nice topic when explored, and as now Abnett take on it is the best imo
ashen zenith
If terminator armor comes from an stc why is most of it astartes sized when the easiest to design and produce wouldve been ordinary human sized?
cerulean wagon
abnett does it well yeah
and uhh
ciaphas books do a good job
especially after they pick up that random girl in one of the books and they go over her first time ever off world
which i suppose is also another note, most people wont leave their home world for their entire lives
cause they dont realy need too
cerulean wagon
If terminator armor comes from an stc why is most of it astartes sized when the ...
cause there is human equiv as well but people prefer to talk about sm
i mean fuck, its not unheard of for rogue traders to have human scale dreadnoughts
ashen zenith
Yes I know but you'd think it would be more widely used atleast during the first crusade by entire human forces instead of just being personalized for special agents
cerulean wagon
well no cause its expensive to make and slow
instead they had void sealed carapace which is much better general purpose
vast frigate
many times warp travel is uneventful
its dangerous, but as long as the gellar shields are sealed, the ship is pretty much safe
gaunt vector
If the ship is unfortunate to cross the path of a Deamonic Army on campagin the the great game can't that army also just overwhelm the gellar field for laughs?
vagrant osprey
The STC for Terminator armor is a "proper" standard template construct. It allows the product to be customized and sized to fit the wearer, and is already designed to be worn on-top of a hardened exosuit.
It's explicitly construction equipment for hazardous environments.
More specifically, it's intended for hard radiation and variable gravity fields, like you would get if you were attempting to repair a reactor while the grav plating was going wild.
crisp heath
That'd make a pretty bitchin VR game I'd bet
vagrant osprey
Stomping around near a massive reactor that's bleeding cherenkov as the grav plates swing back and forth between 10g to -6g while getting bodied by chunks of shattered bulkheads?
Actually, yeah, that would be fucking sick.
primal tide
Sounds kinda like 40k + shipbreaker
open marsh
I'd be down for that
vagrant osprey
Set it in DAoT so you can have an AI companion snarking at you the whole time, instead of a Mechanicus snarking at you the whole time.
open marsh
Eh. DAoT is just more generic scifi. I want 40k
dim totem
DAoT?
gaunt vector
Dark Age of Technology
dim totem
same reason im never rooting for gw to resurrect primarchs
gaunt vector
I want Sanguinius back
dim totem
and i want him to stay dead
open marsh
There have been snippits of what the DAoT was like. Such as House Van Saar. The Spirit of Eternity. Etc.
vagrant osprey
Look, it's called the DAoT because people in setting don't know dick about it.
WE can know as much as we want.
We already know more about it than almost anybody, with the exception of Perpetuals, the Sperenza, and maybe a few things that are more exotic than that.
vagrant osprey
No*
storm jungle
Someones probably gonna give an answer but im sure they got a proper HQ at Terra iirc
The Fortress of the Inquisition is the Inquisitorial Fortress located on Terra.[1]
Acting as a de facto headquarters of the Inquisition, it is a sprawling complex built beneath the south polar ice caps. The Fortress, deep underground, is heavily warded and equipped with psyker dampening devices and null-fields. Only members of the Inquisition and sparse numbers of doomed prisoners are permitted to enter the underground complex. The Fortress is a vast and sprawling, with transportation provided by maglev transportation
So its a "Kinda Yes"
barren tapir
Yep, it is on terra, but it is just a formality
storm jungle
Yeee!
barren tapir
Exactly what Dilara wrote before me...
storm jungle
plush mason
i see
also why is the inquisition's power structure and command system built so losely?
cerulean wagon
i'd also join but pathfinder session
barren tapir
also why is the inquisition's power structure and command system built so losely...
To have a better response, if it was more centralized it would require a lot of time to respond to threats... Each inquisitor need to be able to act independently to act with rapidity...
cerulean wagon
best of luck blank
plush mason
To have a better response, if it was more centralized it would require a lot of ...
that makes sence
barren tapir
Have i become some sort of knowledge repository??
plush mason
i would also assume it makes the inquisition very hard for its enemies to attack
barren tapir
Yes, but it also mean that it is hard for it to act as a single body... You have inquisitors that hunt others inquisitors, and most of the time it is because of personal grudges... There are even minor ordos which objective is to block and go against other minor ordos too
plush mason
oof
barren tapir
Or ordo that simply no one know why they are made
Or ordo that should watch over other ordo
It is a f-ing mess
storm jungle
The worst and most hilarious part is they only answer to the Emperor
whos like uh... kinda fucking comatose
plush mason
lol
storm jungle
Naturally though Custodes can still slap them around
barren tapir
That is, like many things with the inquisition, just a formality... They answer to the custodes too
storm jungle
Yeah they're the only living people they cant judge in the imperium
barren tapir
And they can answer to the high lords of terra too in some situations
storm jungle
Who they can kinda accuse with evidence
plush mason
now i want to see a custodes pimp slap an inquisitor
barren tapir
Yeah they're the only living people they cant judge in the imperium
Not the only one, the SoS are also the other one that no one can judge, only try to limit
Remember, only two type of people can walk freely the imperial palace, the custodes and the SoS, all other need permission and will be watched over...
plush mason
arent the custodes kinda like the jedi temple guards?
barren tapir
The thing with SoS is that they get along only with custodes, so it is rare that they will ever confront an inquisitor... And if they do it is not for chat most of the time
plush mason
being able to just become part of the background of the palace
barren tapir
arent the custodes kinda like the jedi temple guards?
I'm not well versed on star wars lore
storm jungle
arent the custodes kinda like the jedi temple guards?
Pretty much but imagine if the jedi temple guard also had big ass guns that are pinpoint-accurate and blow you to pieces.
plush mason
I'm not well versed on star wars lore
the temple guard are jedi that have sworn to defend the jedi temple
barren tapir
being able to just become part of the background of the palace
No, custodes can do assassination, but they will not do that in their armour... They can pass for statues though yes
plush mason
they forsake their names their voices and their faces
barren tapir
Since the custodes can stand guard for long periods of time
plush mason
and they wear armor that looks like the walls of the temple
so they will stand ike a statue and blend in compleatly to the temple walls
barren tapir
It is true that the custodes that you see around are just a fraction of all of them, but that is more because the rest in in secret places around the palace
plush mason
iirc there was like 3k of them at the start of the crusade
barren tapir
No one, with the exception of the emperor, know how many of them there are... And no one ever asked that to the captain-general and got an answer
storm jungle
This, and they are still actively recruiting when the time calls for it
barren tapir
iirc there was like 3k of them at the start of the crusade
It was stated that they were around 10K most of the time
plush mason
oh
barren tapir
With the early appearance of them stating they were 10 giants with armours of gold in the early unification war iirc
And with some recent spoiler, well, lets say that something interesting is gonna happen
plush mason
crawl relveals the custodes 2.0 đ
barren tapir
Nah, he didn't get access to their production template... Otherwise the primaris would have been immortal, like the custodes are...
Immortal in the sense that they cannot die from age
plush mason
well not just in that sence
i watched a video on them once and it said one of the custodes had his head smashed open and still didnt die
barren tapir
It is also interesting to note that custodes seems to have an aura that somewhat repel chaos stuff and "heal" normal humans... At least that is what i understood from an excerpt of gate of bones
vagrant osprey
The Imperial House is one of the few factions nobody fucks with in the Imperium, even when the law says otherwise.
fast forge
Custodes at minimum have 10k members since they're called the Ten Thousand
vagrant osprey
That doesn't actually mean anything.
storm jungle
The Imperial House?
vagrant osprey
See: Hundred Years War.
barren tapir
The Imperial House?
It is how it is called the emperor "faction"
storm jungle
Oh!
storm jungle
That doesn't actually mean anything.
Im pretty sure it does
they still actively recruit people as their codex makes clear, which answers a lot of questions from the past about "do they even take recruits anymore/do they just die off" etc
vagrant osprey
Oh, no, I meant the fact that they're called "The Ten Thousand"
fast forge
The thing I think is funniest about Custodians is that Roboute Guilliman can only request their help, they don't answer to him
storm jungle
Yep, iirc it goes
Ask the Captain General > He'll tell the other custodes Robot-G is cool
vagrant osprey
They could be lying about it so people think they have more than they do, OR lying about it so people think there are fewer than there are.
primal tide
Maybe they're called the ten thousand cuz they sat on their asses for that many years
vagrant osprey
We know they actively do both
barren tapir
Maybe they're called the ten thousand cuz they sat on their asses for that many ...
That was their name even in the great crusade era
primal tide
Lol damn
barren tapir
It is just their title
primal tide
Thought I was on to something there
fast forge
It didn't help Constantin fucked off shortly after the Emperor was put into the Throne
barren tapir
They can be more than 10K
barren tapir
It didn't help Constantin fucked off shortly after the Emperor was put into the ...
Around the same time russ go away tbh
fast forge
Yea
vagrant osprey
These ARE the people who 1: When they get too old to serve retire to become the Eyes of the Emperor, and 2: Explicitly are immune to all forms of aging.
storm jungle
Maybe they're called the ten thousand cuz they sat on their asses for that many ...
I like how they try to make up for that by going "Uhhh you see they did send some spy custodes out to probe the galaxy once in awhile"
But tbh quoting the TTS Emperor "You guys have the best gear in the entirety of the Imperium and all you did was lube each other and do fuck all for a few thousand years."
barren tapir
It is not they get too old, it is when they feel aren't on their prime anymore
It is subjective
fast forge
Not necessarily from old age. If you lose even a fraction of a second of reaction time or require bionics, they retire
storm jungle
"The future is now old man."
basically
"But we're the same age."
"I dont make the rules."
primal tide
The future is: now old man
barren tapir
It is not even something that is forced, each custodes decide when nail its armour
fast forge
They even get their armor personalized to best fit their exact needs
fast forge
Yup
primal tide
Not like they got anything better to do
vagrant osprey
The Custodes have been explicitly doing skunkworks continuously since they were first made, and have been working on repairing the Golden Throne and restoring the Emperor.
fast forge
Their ceremonial daggers, the Misericordia, are also uniquely balanced and fitted to that Custodian's personal grip
storm jungle
bruh
barren tapir
It isn't a dagger iirc, it is a short sword...
Also its name is mercy in latin iirc
vagrant osprey
Even before RG came back, they were in-lore "never leaving the Imperial Palace" because that was a useful cover since nobody could tell if one of them went off world.
fast forge
To them it's a dagger. To us it's an arming sword
primal tide
Even before RG came back, they were in-lore "never leaving the Imperial Palace" ...
"Nah bro we were totally sending bros off world to help all this time"
fast forge
aye. It's used as a coup-de-grace in battle, and each Custodian can choose if he ever wants to use it or not
Or wear it
storm jungle
Yeee Constantin uses his to execute that thunder-boi iirc
barren tapir
Not only that, but that mean that who have it have the right to decide life and death of others
fast forge
aye
barren tapir
fast forge
Still funny that the newest Custodian technically outranks Roboute
storm jungle
Okay reading it
dumb question
The Misericordias resembles a knives that are filigreed with gold and theldrite, their hilts moulded to the owner's unique grip and their blades imbued with micromolecular dissonator spirits that allow them to slice through the thickest armour as though it is just sheet of paper.
a... what spirit now?
storm jungle
primal tide
That right there is what we refer to as "Mumbojumbo"
storm jungle
Oh yeah i know that much
i meant as in is it a special machine spirit or something?
wispy widget
So hey question might be dumb but seeing space marines need geneseed to make more but I dont think they can make more (unless I'm wrong) isnt geneseed a finite resource?
barren tapir
I imagine it is something that vibrates at molecular level that help with armour, similar to some blades of the Ad. Mech. but better
primal tide
Geneseed is cultured inside a space marine, one instance is harvested after a while and the second is harvested at death (hopefully)
wispy widget
So a marine is a constant source of gene seed?
fast forge
It's the apothecary's main job to collect the gene seed of a fallen brother
primal tide
So a marine is a constant source of gene seed?
No, just two instances
wispy widget
So then riddle me this
primal tide
One SM can at most provide geneseed for two bros
wispy widget
Say a chapter like the excorists the ones who require their marines become a deamon host at a time wouldnt that kinds ruin it?
barren tapir
That is one way to produce geneseed, the other is to vat grown it, but it take more time
barren tapir
Say a chapter like the excorists the ones who require their marines become a dea...
IIRC they implant the geneseed after the possession
wispy widget
I read that it was the requirement from Scout to normal marine brother
primal tide
In 40k the rules are made up and the points don't matter
fast forge
If they have marines and get new ones, they're fine Keyes
vagrant osprey
"Nah bro we were totally sending bros off world to help all this time"
Except they actually were. They've shown up in books before.
fast forge
The thing about the effects of stuff in 40k is it works to the author's favor
wispy widget
Grrr I want to brand them as heritics
fast forge
Calm down there, Inquisitor
wispy widget
They have their permission that's how they get rid of the deamons
primal tide
They ask the demons nicely to leave the geneseed alone
fast forge
Indeed. Just file a complaint to Ordos Hereticus and Malleus and they'll get back to you within one signing of an Exterminatus
barren tapir
Grrr I want to brand them as heritics
They were created by the ordo malleus, why should they be heretics? You want heretics? Look for the chaos warband made by a renegade cardinal with some of their recruit
wispy widget
GW is saying in a upcoming white dwarf they are sons of dorn and I reject it
wispy widget
Look it up valarak did a vid on it
barren tapir
Yup, he seemed not happy about it
wispy widget
I am not happy that a chapter who makes their people deamon hosts it's in with dorns boys
wispy widget
Unknown primarch sure grey knights all for it
barren tapir
TBF they do that to get better at killing demons
wispy widget
If it was that good then why dont the grey knights do it then?
fast forge
Speaking of Valarak, I think he's the guy I watched that talked about ||the return of Constantin Valdor||
barren tapir
Oh come on, the thing that they come from dorn genes doesn't mean anything, you have SM that are from guillman pool but shit on its codex and on the ultramarines
barren tapir
Speaking of Valarak, I think he's the guy I watched that talked about ||the retu...
Probably, he also did a video on that, also maybe spiler a part of your phrase, not everyone like spoliers
wispy widget
Even the smurfs children dont do deamon worship
barren tapir
Even the smurfs children dont do deamon worship
It is not demon worship, not even close
wispy widget
Close enough in my eyes they summon a deamon and have it possess someone
fast forge
Sorry, my bad
barren tapir
Also yes, there are some SM, that have been declared renegades, that actively use demons
wispy widget
But these guys are loyal that's my problem
fast forge
There are Inquisitors that actively use daemonhosts
barren tapir
Close enough in my eyes they summon a deamon and have it possess someone
They invite a demon to possess them, then they get it casted out by a demon hunter... I understand that it may be seen as... weird, it has its uses
fast forge
They literally bind daemons in scripture too
wispy widget
I see
fast forge
Your complaints should also apply to the Inquisition
barren tapir
Or that there are some people that managed to cast away demons that possessed them?
Remember, SM are tools, weapons if you prefer
storm jungle
Tbh exorcists are still stupid
if i read what they were as a chapter as a high lord
id be like
"Uhh... can we exterminate these guys."
wispy widget
Thank you
smoky breach
Regardless of their reasons, letting themselves be hosts out of their own will makes it heretical. Even if it's temporarily.
barren tapir
if i read what they were as a chapter as a high lord
Ok that high lords don't are really smart, but why should they be angered of one thing that they helped create?
barren tapir
Regardless of their reasons, letting themselves be hosts out of their own will m...
This is how some puritan inquisitors could see it
fast forge
See the thing about Heresy is that it only applies if it doesn't benefit the Inquisition
barren tapir
Also the exorcist use only minor warp entities for their "possessions"
And it is done only under the greatest security measures
I'm not trying to justify them, but to think they are heretics, when they are more victim that everything else isn't optimal
smoky breach
So these minor warp entities could be warp servants of the emperor? Nevermind, it doesn't make sense if it was.
vagrant osprey
There explicitly ARE warp entities in the service of the Emperor.
The entire Legion of the Damned, and all the Imperial Saints, for example.
barren tapir
And if some info, that i haven't yet being confirmed, are true then there are more literal emperor's demons...
wispy widget
Well in the webway battle
When E was walking
He did summon a army of deamons
Who apparently looked alot like the legion of the damned
vagrant osprey
It's also possible that Drakn'yen is a Daemon of the Emperor, but that could be a reach.
pseudo dragon
the emperor is the chaos god of faith
vagrant osprey
He's not a chaos god of anything. Yet.
barren tapir
Keyes, i just realized that you profile image is a custodes... That explain why you dislike so much the primaris and the exorcirst
pseudo dragon
the more souls he consumes, the more powerful he becomes
vagrant osprey
The more souls he consumes, the more insane he becomes.
With great power comes great insanity. ÂŻ_(ă)_/ÂŻ
barren tapir
It's also possible that Drakn'yen is a Daemon of the Emperor, but that could be ...
A great stretch NGL, since drac'ien tried to kill the emperor in the webaway, and nearly succeded
vagrant osprey
That's not the part that's a stretch, though.
Chaos beings are their own worst enemies. Sometimes literally
barren tapir
Maybe the part when it is the sword of abaddon then
vagrant osprey
How many times has Tzneech been dead because of his own plots?
storm jungle
Also wasnt drach'nyen from the first murder of Abel?
barren tapir
Also wasnt drach'nyen from the first murder of Abel?
Yup
storm jungle
nice
vagrant osprey
It has several backstories.
One of them, which is almost definitely no longer canon, is the Emperor killing his father.
vagrant osprey
If he even has a father. The Emperor's canon is fragmented.
storm jungle
I mean this is the first time i hear "he murdered his father thing" so i dont know.
And Big E isnt really fragmented.
gaunt vector
that was mortarion not big e
storm jungle
Its either the shaman thing or just "i dunno he just popped up."
gaunt vector
why would big e murder dadE
vagrant osprey
Did I get confused? That's possible.
wispy widget
@barren tapir your correct on why my pfp is a custodes
storm jungle
why would big e murder dadE
~~Dad E is a great name for his father btw ngl ~~
storm jungle
DAMN IT
gaunt vector
the entire familE
storm jungle
stAPH
gaunt vector
make mE
barren tapir
storm jungle
but yeah jokes aside, im digging up some master of mankind stuff
storm jungle
He paused for a moment, following Raâs gaze back to the noisy villagers. âThe very first murder was also a fratricide,â he said without emotion. âThousands of years before this, when men and women still owed as much to apes as to the form we know now. But it is curious to me â brothers have always killed
brothers. I wonder why that is? Some evolutionary flaw, some ingrained emotional fragility written into mankindâs core, perhaps.â
gaunt vector
https://tenor.com/view/slap-bear-slap-me-you-gif-17942299
oof
gaunt vector
> He paused for a moment, following Raâs gaze back to the noisy villagers. âThe ...
angy. we just angy
thats why
barren tapir
> He paused for a moment, following Raâs gaze back to the noisy villagers. âThe ...
Nice
Also deep as f that passage
storm jungle
Yeee it is
wispy widget
Mom Everest!
storm jungle
NO!
gaunt vector
forget this ever happened please and thank you
storm jungle
but yeah its why i find "lol Big E is a bad person" thing a really hipster take
barren tapir
but yeah its why i find "lol Big E is a bad person" thing a really hipster take
Agree
storm jungle
Like as sad as it is, you cant make anything without anyone opposing you
gaunt vector
Like as sad as it is, you cant make anything without anyone opposing you
i dIsAgReE
storm jungle
thats either through words, actions or hell in Big E's case straight up being like "lol you arent the master of mankind, i prefer terra as a mad max shithole"
barren tapir
i dIsAgReE
gaunt vector
https://tenor.com/view/cease-your-heresy-warhammer-heresy-astartes-gif-18053812
bro I'm loyalist!
barren tapir
Loyal to what?
gaunt vector
The Imperium
barren tapir
Good enough
gaunt vector
thank you
storm jungle
barren tapir
Order and discipline have been re-established in this important channel
gaunt vector
I'll let the Xeno pass because I think we are still allied with the Ynnari and maybe the craftwords idk
final spruce
Ynnari only soldier
gaunt vector
ah ok. The Craftworlds are still trying to make their minds up about what to do about the fact that chaos still exists aren't they?
wispy widget
They are still trying to figure out how to get the dark eldar to rehab
primal tide
They're waiting for some tabletop models
vagrant osprey
Does anybody else think Exodites give Slaanesh indigestion?
They're technically Eldar, so Slaanesh HAS to take them, but they've been building up the armor of contempt against Slaanesh specifically since before the murderfucking that birthed Slaanesh even started.
storm jungle
Well their spirits dont go to the warp so im not sure
vagrant osprey
They have soulstones.
vagrant osprey
Some of them still wind up getting nommed, though, since this IS 40k
So the question remains :V
gusty heron
Anyone that is not a Dark Eldar has soulstones so all their souls are harvested on that even exodites.
final spruce
I believe Harlequins don't need those since their souls are protected by Cegorath
static vessel
The exodites link their souls to their planets I'm pretty sure.
think the Dark eldar have ways around being nommed too
final spruce
Well their way is to do Slaneesh stuff to stop the nomming
atomic pelican
OH. MY.
rotund siren
fun...
storm jungle
My xenology is still on the way but people are posting some cool shit on twitter
- Catachan Devil
atomic pelican
OMG
IT'S GOT GREKH QUOTES
KROOT CHAD
However, when Grekh saw me working on my notes, he assured me that felinids not only exist but are the form of humans he most respects.
Grekh loves his catgirls.
plucky moth
lmao
atomic pelican
Okay xenologis is already amazing. doesn't matter what else comes out with it.
From the excerpt I'm reading it seems pretty tongue-in-cheek which is great
storm jungle
tbh this comment below sums it up kinda nicely
Its just a small mention among a dozen other types of previously mentioned abhumans. It doesnât really mean anything, in my opinion. Its just the community that cares about the cat people. No one ever mentions the water ogryns or the tree people, both of which also get mentions in this new book.
That said, its pretty funny them coming up again, if only to see peopleâs reactions. I doubt weâll see much more than this though.
placid plank
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EvfASQWXIAg6xoZ?format=jpg&name=4096x4096
....Jesus Christ, that thing is most DEFINITELY a Tyranid.
plucky moth
VALIDATING MY IMPERIAL GUARD CAT GIRL
oh shit true
storm jungle
....Jesus Christ, that thing is most DEFINITELY a Tyranid.
Also alien plastic bags
that choke you, i think
plucky moth
cerulean wagon
My xenology is still on the way but people are posting some cool shit on twitter
mine still isnt here either
storm jungle
we need it!
cerulean wagon
also the other thing isnt a nid
its probably a catachan face hugger
face eater sorry
heres he old art
atomic pelican
That looks like a blanket
gusty heron
oh yeah, that Devil is an nyd for sure
atomic pelican
mm comfy :)
plucky moth
assassinating someone with a newspaper made of face eaters
atomic pelican
IT'S TIME.
storm jungle
HE HAS THE HOLY TEXT
atomic pelican
Bro I don't even care abt the tau situation, assuming they even have a entry
This book is gonna SLAP I think
From the art/entries I'm seeing
It's got Grekh in it which is
automatic win
atomic pelican
FHFNH
storm jungle
WHY IS YOUR FACE SO SMALL
atomic pelican
"You fucked up my face."
atomic pelican
She got hit in the face by a shrink ray
rotund siren
storm jungle
nOO
atomic pelican
URGHN
final spruce
I don't see the issue
plucky moth
Charlie Kirk Elves
dim totem
I think it's the shaved side of her head that makes her face look tiny no?
dim totem
But I understand that you don't like the way her yib is cut
final spruce
Nah its you people that always complain
final spruce
You know I'm right
atomic pelican
OOOOOFF
storm jungle
._.
cerulean wagon
some is definetly new tho
atomic pelican
GW recycling art goes brr
atomic pelican
They recycled Teclis' battletome art for his Broken Realms cover 
azure vault
mmmm monky
plucky moth
me going to the fridge at 3am
atomic pelican
big
cerulean wagon
zoats get 3 pages dedicated
atomic pelican
FHNFN
storm jungle
bruh
cerulean wagon
a mix
atomic pelican
Ahh
storm jungle
atomic pelican
Hm is that new vespid art?
cerulean wagon
looks it
cerulean wagon
storm jungle
yep i think thats old
cerulean wagon
nids
storm jungle
it had a black and white version of it iirc
but it does look different...
so im probably mistaken
crisp heath
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/294604960614842368/815369869808631818/FB_...
when the resurrection goes fucky
atomic pelican
Tbf "nids coming in from orbit" seems like a pretty commons subject matter, so probably new
cerulean wagon
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/44/89/60/448960456a91e3bf9b15b8908a64b066.png
thats different but that art is also on here
as a 2 page spread
nids get 10 pages including art
atomic pelican
Nice
atomic pelican
Hopefully new eldar biology stuff
Since their last one was like
whacky
I've got rubber bones
cerulean wagon
storm jungle
storm jungle
many spices!
atomic pelican
Tau and Genestealers đ
storm jungle
Seriously?
atomic pelican
Ahh alright
storm jungle
damn it
atomic pelican
Damn well
atomic pelican
UGHNGN
dim totem
Wait what's all this?
atomic pelican
I was just hoping It'd confirm either way, so I wouldn't have to think about it anymore
But whatevs
storm jungle
Wait what's all this?
Liber Xenologis! A book about aliens that just came out!
cerulean wagon
guys
atomic pelican
Cool fluff tho I'm sure
cerulean wagon
i found incan
dim totem
Need
storm jungle
ruh roh
cerulean wagon
atomic pelican
LUL
storm jungle
noooo
dim totem
Cool crocodile