Its happened already
#40k-lore-chat
rose sand
open marsh
Yeah. Goliaths have female models
prisma lark
after looking at their current range, I'm almost afraid to ask "which ones"
thick shadow
final spruce
Of course they have female goliaths
prisma lark
well, those could easily just be younger (male) members
celest dome
House Goliath has both in lore, with even some that became the leader of their clan iirc
Found it, i though it was Forge-Mother but it's Vat-Mother and she was one of the previous Overtyrant of House Goliath
open marsh
well, those could easily just be younger (male) members
Younger males with stonkin great tits?
Notice the chest armour.
prisma lark
isn't that just their armour? :/
open marsh
No
neat patio
open marsh
It's boob armour
celest dome
The only house which may be Male only would be House Cawdor
prisma lark
yeah looking at the 3D view you're definitely right
(more noticeable with their ass though :p)
barren tapir
The books that talk about each house like to retconnect and expand the lore of each house... Like, the van saar are said to have tech temple similar to the Ad. Mech. in the book gangs of necromunda, but that is retconnected by house of artifice book, so even with goliath happened something similar
open marsh
(more noticeable with their ass though :p)
If you are an ass man I guess
:p
Yeah Goliaths don't really have a childhood. They are vat grown and don't live long
barren tapir
The only house which may be Male only would be House Cawdor
By their lore in the book gangs of necromunda they are very male focused yes, but there are also full women cawdor gangs
final spruce
Its boob armor from the N64 Era
prisma lark
If you are an ass man I guess
definitely ( ͥ° ÍĘ ÍĄÂ°)
celest dome
What House still miss their book at the moment ?
Chain - Goliath
Iron - Orlock
Artifice -Van Sar
storm jungle
Yeah Goliaths don't really have a childhood. They are vat grown and don't live l...
So thunder warriors
just nerfed
open marsh
So thunder warriors
No. Thunder Warriors weren't vat grown. They are made from fully grown men
barren tapir
Cawdor and dalanque lack their own book
open marsh
Bad example
storm jungle
No u
open marsh
:l
storm jungle
open marsh
Fite me
barren tapir
Goliaths are so weird that they are considered abhumans
primal tide
Everyone is vat grown, it's just a case of different types of vats
celest dome
Everyone is vat grown, it's just a case of different types of vats
Don't tell that to Honsou
primal tide
Every damn conversation lol
barren tapir
What House still miss their book at the moment ?
Chain - Goliath
Iron - Orlock
...
House escher was the first to get their book, with house of blades, then it was the time of goliath with house of chains, after them it was orlocks with house of iron, recently van saar with house of artifice... IIRC the next will be house delaque and then cawdor
celest dome
Is House of Ruin also in the same edition or was it from the previous edition ?
barren tapir
You mean the book of ruin? I never heard of a house of ruin
celest dome
Yeah my bad
barren tapir
I think yes
celest dome
There should be a Bounty hunter/Hired GunAxe that is just a Dwarf Slayer that got lost when the world ended
open marsh
I mean there are 2 Squat bounty hunters
open marsh
Embrace Dwarves, reject Knife Eared scum
cloud kindle
We need urist
barren tapir
It looks like that the three new orlocks models are well received... Maybe that will show GW where to develop
median sundial
So I heard that the Dark Angels Primarch was personally identical to the Emperor, barring the fact he was âsocially awkwardâ. Meaning either he kinda stammered his words when talking to other Primarchs or during important missions to his troops, or he lacked the charisma to make him sound likable and sounded like a grumpy asshole 70% of the time.
The latter sounds more appropriate for the DA.
median sundial
That makes sense.
crisp heath
i feel like he was the 'cannot be nice and oratorial for the love of him' type
i mean he grew up in a forest. i don't expect him to understand complicated social cues
median sundial
Oh.
primal tide
George of the jungle vibes
I don't recall him ever being described as socially awkward as much as just cagey and plain spoken
median sundial
Also whatâs up with Chaos Ogryns? Itâs been my head canon that theyâre descendants of the Ogryns during the Horus Heresy since Chaos is so well known 10k years later that youâd almost have to know before joining, and I imagine Ogryns being rather upset knowing their boss is a heretic.
final spruce
Oh no, Chaos Ogryns are just ogryns that the cultists control and turn them into chaos beasts
They do stuff like feeding em berserk drugs, making them puppets by toying with their primitive brain etc
median sundial
THOSE FUCKERS.
median sundial
IâLL KILL THEM AALLLLLLL
final spruce
You'll be able to once Darktide is released
cloud kindle
WITH an ogryn!
vocal sundial
soooo squats happening when?
final spruce
Whenever GW stops being a pussy and launches them on the tabletop
eternal ledge
If they have one and hes not voiced by David Rintoul (Bardin) I'm canceling my preorder
eternal ledge
Whenever GW stops being a pussy and launches them on the tabletop
Surprise 10th Edition New Army
barren tapir
It looks like another one escaped the role of convict
@vocal sundial you should report to a warden to get your role
vocal sundial
Probably should, do i just ask?
barren tapir
Yes, you should have got a role when you entered the server, sometimes it doesn't work
<@&735928989146939404> we have someone that is not a convict, can you do something about it?
odd tulip
He now has the role
vocal sundial
there we go
odd tulip
The auto apply stops working sometimes
final spruce
Welcome to jail
barren tapir
Good, thanks Gawain
vocal sundial
hell yeah
barren tapir
Welcome fellow convict, now you are allowed to speculate on darktide too... And to enjoy your stay here
final spruce
I know discord tends to kick people without role so yeah, having one is useful
plucky moth
Space Marines??????
final spruce
:pain:
barren tapir
Ah, that is Incan, a warden that pretty much anyone wonder how he ended up being that...
final spruce
final spruce
So, does that make Hedge a Chaos God ?
barren tapir
Ehy Incan, have you fixed your sleep schedule? Last time i remember you weren't going to sleep even if you streamed for 9 hours
crisp heath
in your defense i sleep 6 to 13 without a diagnosis
did a 9 to 15 once
and a 7 to 15
barren tapir
Uhm... Keep care of yourself... While being a nocturne people isn't intrinsically bad having a messed up sleep is...
crisp heath
we don't judge you
final spruce
That's called night shift
crisp heath
incan is a teacher and i'm not working
that being siad i hope that's not while you're at work @plucky moth lol
plucky moth
it's not
everything being still very heavily online atm gives me a lot of wiggle room
plucky moth
but yeah I'm not back at work yet
also any student who turns me in for sleeping is a dirty snitch since I let them snooze away lmao
final spruce
I'm not even sure his students would mind
crisp heath
lmao
plucky moth
like if a kid is sleeping they're obvs too tired to be learning rn
crisp heath
What do you teach anyway ?
how to be a chad
plucky moth
English
ideally I'll be teaching history too
AND I also do a lot of special ed work
I started out working in special ed units
I'm trying to move into more mainstream classrooms though, just because of the mental strain
it's all up in the air though rn because pandemic
final spruce
That's understandable I host DnD games with the club i'm in as an animator for the autistic children at a local screening office
They can be quite tiresome after a few hours
plucky moth
ehhh I'm fine with that
it's more the horror stories
and the sheer apathy of how the system treats the students (and us)
also the parents 
vagrant osprey
Wasn't 40k inspired by the UK school system?
plucky moth
lmao that somehow wouldn't surprise me
crisp heath
my school felt like it
vagrant osprey
I kid, I kid.
final spruce
So, is Nurgle a karen in secret then ?
crisp heath
it was like ending up on an ork world
vagrant osprey
THAT was Pink Floyd's The Wall, and A Clockwork Orange.
cloud kindle
Then report the candy missing to coworkers as plausible deniability incase the kids try to hustle you
vagrant osprey
40k was inspired by 1980s Dark SciFi metal posters.
Oh, hello, Tzneetch. How are you today?
crisp heath
i literally had a classmate that had the same expression as an ork boy
plucky moth
Orks are football hooligans so that sounds about right
hell I feel bizarrely at home with Ork vocabulary
and even some of the cultural elements 
DA BOYZ
crisp heath
his name was josh and he spent most of the time behind the door when the teacher sent him there for being disruptive
primal tide
In kindergarten I was that kid that's always biting people đ I'm reformed now
mostly
final spruce
Keep the biting to last ditch effort or private time soldier
primal tide
I'd be cool with being an orc, but colorblindness has mostly robbed me of green
A capital offense to them, no doubt
primal tide
Never sacrifice your ideals
plucky moth
colourblindness has me confusing blues and purples far too much
primal tide
Equally bad evolutionary traits for avoiding bad berries
plucky moth
đ
potent swift
Wasn't 40k inspired by the UK school system?
I'm like 90% sure the Schola Progenium is like, every british boarding school horror story combined
plucky moth
crisp heath
probably spikes on them too
i wonder what the suicide rate is and if it's lower than the death by accident one
open marsh
From what we have seen, the "students" are so indoctrinated from such a young age, then they dont even know how horrible they are treated enough to consider such actions
serene eagle
i wonder what the suicide rate is and if it's lower than the death by accident o...
0 because they are all brainwashed
"Hahah man, self flagellation hour ammiright fellas? *sips recaff
cloud kindle
sorry i have an appointment in the pain glove
serene eagle
"Hey bobby, we're playing hunt the heretic, old man Cain is pretending to be a heretic and we take turns pretend to chaimsword him with the vacuum cleaner!"
(Cain comically flopping around and feigning agony in the background)
ashen zenith
do we have any info on how information was transmitted across the galaxy during the dark age of technology without astropaths?
serene eagle
It wasn't, usually
Hence dark age, no information
Other than that, unmanned messanger craft
Just shotgun a bunch of them into the general area, star charts do exist
Also, MANNED messanger craft
Because GRIMDARK
viral vessel
What's grim dark about manned messenger spacecraft?
ashen zenith
Well thats dissapointing
viral vessel
Dark Ages are typically disappointing things.
It was a bad time for humanity, so you're going to get cultural and technological regression and stagnation in most places.
ashen zenith
I guess that's atleast one way the current imperium is superior to the daot empire
ashen zenith
It was a bad time for humanity, so you're going to get cultural and technologica...
I think you're getting confused, the dark age of technology was when humanity was the most advanced
The part where it declined is the age of strife
viral vessel
Oh right, I shouldn't be answering these questions with less than 3 hours sleep.
Sorry about that.
ashen zenith
Ye
odd sparrow
i mean, i would've figured that DaoT humanity did have warp drives
hence why the whole slaanesh thing was so crippling. + that it was the dark age as a dumb retroactive term from the imperium cus duh, not as actual commentary on the period
kinda like the actual dark ages uwu
ashen zenith
Yea they did have warp drives, one of the starting factor for daot humanity was the creation of navigators
But astropaths didn't come until the end of daot I think
odd sparrow
yea. So presumably it's just send messages through warp capable messenger ships
would've been way more practical with how the warp was way calmer pre snakeboy
open marsh
Yea they did have warp drives, one of the starting factor for daot humanity was ...
And even before that, they had developed a device called a Void Abacus. Not as effective as a Navigator by about a factor of 10. But still can work 3-5 times better than sailing blind
serene eagle
What's grim dark about manned messenger spacecraft?
the fact that you have a 50% chance of getting [REDACTED] to death by daemons and then your soul gets [REDACTED] to pieces again with every warp jump
barren tapir
Mankind during the age of tech, called dark in the imperium for different reason (mostly religious reasons, as the emperor hasn't shown himself yet and because in the POV of the imperium relying too much on tech is bad), was extremely connected, i guess they had a stable connection via satellite or other very advanced tech, there weren't warp storm that could mess up the positioning or the messages sent...
I'm pretty sure that we will get a retcon for the navigators as well, as now they should have appeared during the age of tech, but before psykers... To me that sound strange, so i'm expecting their rise to be moved early age of strife or even mid, as we know that some people did warp travel around that time...
knotty cove
i love necons
"alright, come to your trial or im turning off your fucking respawn"
atomic pelican
Well Fortifiedâ˘ď¸
final spruce
rotund siren
COMPLETELY UNSIEGABLE!
finite roost
FUCKING HORUS
finite roost
I SHALL REBUILD THE IMPERIAL PALACE
rotund siren
YES!
final spruce
finite roost
open marsh
Not well enough
No thats still accurate to the Imperial Fists.
laughs in Iron Warrior
rotund siren
wow, shots fired
finite roost
the iron cage
atomic pelican
Magic pain glove
finite roost
technically i was wearing gloves and they were soaked in icy water
so yes pain glove
eternal ledge
So I was Playing Diablo 3 with my buddies last night for the new seasonal stuff and we were in Act IV and running around the High Heavens and I got thinking "Man this would be a cool idea: A Shrine World that floats in the upper atmosphere of a gas giant"
Then I got thinking "The Imperium doesn't have floating habitats on gas giants do they?"
Only race I can think of are the Tau with the Vespid homeworld
chrome yacht
Phantine is pretty close to that
barren tapir
Then I got thinking "The Imperium doesn't have floating habitats on gas giants d...
They do
eternal ledge
They do
Ok I wasn't sure. I've read stuff about near orbit habitats but none in the planet like Cloud City from Star Wars
barren tapir
Well, you talked about gas giants, so they would be effectively in orbit, about the flying city in the atmosphere i seems to remember they are also present
storm jungle
So I was Playing Diablo 3 with my buddies last night for the new seasonal stuff ...
Blank answered already but the most prominent one i think is on Saturn
also Jupiter
prime kernel
isnt jupiter more important then saturn
which one houses all the fleets again ? @storm jungle
storm jungle
isnt jupiter more important then saturn
I dont think it matters much when a planet in a solar system is a planet in a solar system; aka since its humanity's birth place any world might as well be important
As for the fleets, unless someone comes in to correct me later i think its this?
The Imperial Navy orbital shipyards for the Segmentum are located on Luna, and the Imperial Navy headquarters in the Segmentum is based within Mars' Ring of Iron.
ashen zenith
i hate the tts show because now i cant see rogal dorn without thinking "cringe based cringe based"
final spruce
open marsh
All I can here is "I am Rogal Dorn."
eternal ledge
I can't not hear their voices as the characters
And Warhams has ruined Mechanicus for me because now I hear Pi Brain every time
gray trellis
Question: What are the primaries marines?
weak fern
Some Spaces Marine who get updated by a Magos named Belisarius Cawl
More powerfull, more high, more resistant
final spruce
Like Kamelia said, they are essentially a second generation of space marines created by Cawl using the data from the Emperor
He just added 3 more organs compared to the firstborn but its enough to make them a bit stronger and sturdier than your average space marine
potent swift
They're also outfitted with a ton of shiny new gear Cawl invented
crisp heath
marines plus+, basically
instead of changing the range to more truescale models GW decided to roll out a new range of marines that are bigger - and thus on the tabletop more accurate to how large marines are supposed to be - while keeping the old marine models, so they remain playable and sellable
crisp heath
in lore, a techpriest researched the materials used to create the primarchs for ages, managed to recover some, and combined it with his knowledge to give a new generation of marines 3 new organs, which cause them to be bigger and more resilient than space marines already were. they were thought to also be resistant to chaos corruption, but that turned out not to be the case.
final spruce
They were also supposed to have a pure geneseed that cannot mutate
Primaris Wulfen and Death Companies say otherwise
potent swift
There also exists a process that can convert a Gen 1 Marine into a Gen 2 Primaris but is said to be an incredibly high risk procedure.
gray trellis
Thx
ashen zenith
is there any realistic merit to fortresses in a setting where usually the enemies descend from space and usually has extremely mobile units
atomic pelican
Most factions in 40k haven't realized space is on a 3d plane
also space forts cool
In terms of Space Forts a tleast
eternal ledge
Lol
I'm reading the War of the Beast series and there are multiple instances of ships covering each other from ascending and descending plains
odd sparrow
yeah i swear the nid graphics/maps are the one time when GW acknowledges that space isn't 2d
odd sparrow
which is kinda fair, it's a lot easier to map stuff out if you just treat it as 2d
atomic pelican
literally space wall
atomic pelican
So like
The Imperium lit up the entire damocles gulf after losing the battle of mugulath bay
to keep the tau from advancing further
The admech used some kind of techno thingy
Kinda like scorched earth tactics
odd sparrow
so like, what is it? I remember stuff depicting it as like, an empty space kinda separating the main tau empire from anywhere they can expand to
atomic pelican
why the tau couldn't just go around it, I'll never know
eternal ledge
Yeah didn't they use something that like disabled warp travel or something
odd sparrow
hey maybe it's just like. really wide.
atomic pelican
Lemme find the pdf I read it from, I'm a lil unsure abt it too
odd sparrow
ye
I always interpreted it as [vague space wasteland that's extremely difficult to traverse]
that- i guess just kinda surrounds the a large portion of the 3d tau empire sphere
odd sparrow
god bless the imperium
atomic pelican
Also this confirms wha tI thought already
that the damocles crusade was a major tau victory
Considering that the Imperium never actually reached any main tau worlds and just got beaned on their western fringe
Well, even that it was the tau pressing into imperial space with the taking of Agrellan
This is all from Damocles Warzone: Montka btw
It's rlly cool
It goes over every little detail of the battle
odd sparrow
yea, so basically the imperium walking in all impetuously expecting an easy victory, having their invasion grind to a halt and then just kinda fuck this fuck you i'm just gonna build a wall and make the tau pay for it uwu
atomic pelican
Like
odd sparrow
! i haven't read that one yet
atomic pelican
There were several assassins sent to kill various tau targets
2 sent for farsight, both of which died
one killed by the Eight and one killed by Darkstrider
This image is rlly funny to me
because Darkstrider is like the most generic looking tau hero
So it just looks like some tau mook squaring up with a assassin
eternal ledge
not gonna lie
atomic pelican
The funniest part is that he kills the assassin with apulse pistol
eternal ledge
I love stories where a regular nobody lucks out and gets the upper hand
odd sparrow
also hot take but GW artists need to like. downscale. tau weapons for art
atomic pelican
Yeeah for sure
odd sparrow
one moment
this is actually one of my fav pieces of tau art
cus! the guns! are a reasonable size!
eternal ledge
lol
odd sparrow
sure the pulse rifles are still long bois but that's the point, and the pulse blasters are compact enough that they actually look like they could be used in urban combat
same
silly xenos, guns don't kill people
I kill people.
eternal ledge
Like "Excuase me what the fuck do you plan to use with this?"
atomic pelican
Farsight's comically sized swor dis pretty great
odd sparrow
mind you the scale of the pauldrons is still an issue tbh. the lil breacher pauldrons are how big true-to-scale fire warriors' pauldrons should always be imo
atomic pelican
odd sparrow
! ye
with uh darkstrider, shadowsun, chill ethereal i'm blanking on the name of and kys man at the very back
atomic pelican
Yessss
Also, the darkstrider blurb is really funny because
He's hunting after what he thinks are farsight rebels, like, findign bodies and stuff
when really he's following the trail of the assassin
odd sparrow
farsight rebels are the ultimate tau bogeyman tbh
atomic pelican
Yeee It's really neat
odd sparrow
everyone is all like they have abandoned the tau'va how could they they cannot be spoken of when in actuality they're kinda just vibing on their planets
they just want to grill
atomic pelican
It's really interesting too because Farsight really helped out in mugulath bay
Probably one of the biggest reasons the tau won the battle tbh
cloud kindle
Thst servo skull will win the day
atomic pelican
He led like a massive counterstrike
And yeah, people misconstruing the FSE as active rebels is really funny
I'd morese consider farsight just a separatist tbh
cloud kindle
He just considers the ethereals as shifty as fuck
odd sparrow
ye. Like, they're in open rebellion but they're not like, in military conflict with the tau
atomic pelican
Yeee
odd sparrow
yea
atomic pelican
FSE would probably get lulstomped if they were in active conflict with the main empire
I really do love the interactions between Shadowsun/Farsight
odd sparrow
Yea. I'm guessing the justification for that is kinda just the tau empire can't spare the resources for what could be a costly and EXTREMELY disillusioning and low morale war that could stand to shatter so much propaganda vibe
atomic pelican
Like, Farsight helping her, and shadowsun covering his ass from being caught
Yee also, the FSE are past the gulf I think?
Lemme find the map
odd sparrow
so tl;dr farsight is tau'ing the tau like they tau the imperium
yea i think they're just past the gulf, the planets farsight originally reconquered for the empire
atomic pelican
Yeeee
odd sparrow
So they're kinda seperated
atomic pelican
Ethereal council would much rather just pretend he didn't exist, and Farsight isn't exactly pushing the agenda yet so
cloud kindle
yet
odd sparrow
ehh idk
the tau civil war thing would have to be handled well to not just be grimderp imo
atomic pelican
Yeeah
I really don't think Farsight is gonna do anything like that
It'd seem really OOC
Considering one of his main goals is to NOT cause the destruction of the empire
cloud kindle
Most likely the ethereals would be the aggressors
atomic pelican
Even if he does dislike the ethereals
If the Tau empire actually attacked the FSE, they'd almost certainly destroy it.
dull flame
Did someone say Tau?
odd sparrow
we stan pulse blasters
atomic pelican
Yesss
dull flame
Yeah that Tau is gonna pay for that. Probably a lethal hit but not lethal enough to save him
cloud kindle
Nah losing limb isnt too big of a deal
atomic pelican
Also yeah, FSE are like
dull flame
Though the spear holding hand came off. Probably won't stop the space marine swinging in and punching the Tau's head off
atomic pelican
You know when people say the tau are insigifnicantly small? The FSE are that to the tau
cloud kindle
A major inconvenience yeah
atomic pelican
Notice the enclave size
odd sparrow
I imagine if they did do a tau empire bones the farsight enclaves thing then it would kinda be a congrats you have only made this existential threat to the ethereal rule domestic instead of foreign
u can't propaganda it away anymore, it's everywhere
atomic pelican
Yeah exactly
That's the predicament, and thus why there probably wouldn't be a real war
Neither side wants to aggress
odd sparrow
Yea
FSE don't want to fight against the tau'va and they don't wanna be wiped out, Tau doesn't want to even bother with the conundrum the FSE presents
odd sparrow
I believe they do? Like, Farsight hasn't renounced it or anything afaik
cloud kindle
I know nothing of the tau region
cloud kindle
So is the zone of silence part of the warp rift
odd sparrow
it's probably different than what the rest of the Tau have, since the rest of the Tau's Tau'va is kinda just whatever papa ethereal says, but i believe it is still a thing there
atomic pelican
Like, apparently he still believes in the caste system, but a edited form since he allows earth casters to fight
It's neat
odd sparrow
yea
I hope they find a way to keep the FSE around. Like, short of just never moving that plot forward uwu
atomic pelican
Oh yeee fo rsure
As much as I'll meme abt FSE gamers being the "im not like other girls" of taugang the FSE is rlly cool narratively
Also who DOESNT love the Eight?
odd sparrow
nods
plucky moth
Talos got gaslit by an entire population into godhood
snow roost
Talos got gaslit by an entire population into godhood
wait a minute. That sounds familiar
open marsh
Thalmor: A "mortal" could never really become a god!
Sheogorath: "Well now....about that...."
thick shadow
Did someone say Tau?
The ASTARTES cannot be that small and lean! This is a T'au propaganda!!
storm jungle
LOL
storm jungle
Nagash gonna be pimpin' this
rotund siren
how do you even get that many skulls, but without any other bones?
atomic pelican
Legit why are thwrw just skulls all over the ground
rotund siren
not skeletons
atomic pelican
WHO PUT THEM THERE
atomic pelican
The artist getting instructions for that piece like, "yeah this needs extra skulls. No, even more."
vagrant osprey
That document is incorrect.
See how those bones curve around? Yeah, they literally can't flip outwards like that.
storm jungle
Yes but id rather have a doctor review this
vagrant osprey
Ok, that's fair, but keep in mind that bones don't bend much.
What they're showing is like cuffing a pair of pants, except the pants are made of rings of reinforced ceramic.
You can't flip them outwards, because each ring, or rib, has to move as a solid object
crisp heath
perhaps they only fan out like that on the sides
or in the front
it's certainly better than the idea of the ribcage being literally fused together
thick shadow
Just passing by
I NEED biological/genetic IMPROVEments
crisp heath
you know what i need?
the one specific implant that makes them able to sleep for 4hrs only
crisp heath
you tell me that i haven't slept for 24+ hours and it's not the first time this month i'm doing that
the uhh, the thing that lets you gain memories from tasting stuff could also be cool
prisma lark
proceeds to try licking the teacher
crisp heath
"prof i need a glass of your blood... for the exam"
barren tapir
Ehy, Aunva, i read that you have come to a similar conclusion regarding the damocles crusade as farsight... That it was a tau victory and kuayon strategy...
atomic pelican
Yeh I kinda figured that before but ppl talking abt stalemate and such
I recently read damocles warzone
Its rlly cool
Pretty much a detailed summary of the entire bay battle
It goes over the specific regimwnts and such used by both Imperial and Tau forces
barren tapir
But isn't the battle of agrellan part of the third sphere? While the damocles crusade is part of the second one?
Or maybe i mixed something while reading the messages
atomic pelican
Nah 2nd sphere was led bt aunwei and comprisws of main worlds now
It ended when the tau came up against the imperial border with the gulf
I believe the end of the damocles crusade was with the bay battle
Altho maybe Im getting mixed
It seems we are both correct
The damocles crusade was between the 2nd and 3rd spheres
And the 3rd sphere ended in the pushback
Ugh Im so tired of reading the like
barren tapir
I guess the damocles crusade put an end to the second sphere, while the battle of agrellan put an end to the third
atomic pelican
Bajillion different variants of Damocles conflicts
And yeee
That seems to be the case
Since the gulf is now a nebula fireball
Firewall
barren tapir
The crusade ended in a peaceful manner because the imperium hadn't enough resources to keep the offensive, and they didn't know they were on a core world, and they were also called back to face nids... The battle of agrellan is just a decisive tau victory, but i don't know exactly why
atomic pelican
Yee battle of agrellan is something Ik more abt from the pdf but it was a combination of a few things
Like, Shadowsun having baited large chunks of the white scars to attack meaningless other planets
Whilr advancing onto agrellan itself
+Farsight showed up during the imperial counterattack to help
barren tapir
That sound like the same problem they had in the damocles crusade, they underestimated the fighting capabilities of the tau
atomic pelican
Yeee. Tho the Imperium DID do smthing rlly smart which was deploying so many assassins vs the tau
Like, not all were meant for aunva but the one who was succeeded
2 were after Farsight and died, there was another after Shadowsun who died
But the Aunva one got thru
+Torching the gulf was a p good idea
Pretty much sealed off tau expansion further into imperial space for a longtime
vast bolt
@desert owl
desert owl
nooo
prisma lark
2 were after Farsight and died, there was another after Shadowsun who died
those must have been some shitty assassins then
or they rolled super badly on their dice :p
atomic pelican
eh they were generics against named characters
That's how it Goes
also the Eight are pretty beefy themselves
The funniest one is Darkstrider killing the vindicare
storm jungle
Question: Are there people here who find the Storm Talon stupid and think that it looks like a toy
atomic pelican
tbh all the space marine vehicles look silly to me
tough willow
it's the pilot, he looks way to big to pilot the thing
also it just looks small and dinky
atomic pelican
I will say I'm a big fan of that one new primaris tank with the lil guy sticking out of the top just because he looks so funny
odd sparrow
BROTHER
yOU WILL HAVE TO SPEAK U P BROTHER
tough willow
brother
storm jungle
BROTHER I CANT HEAR ANYTHING
final spruce
Yeah, space marine vehicles, especially the newer ones have shit design
The only decent is the Impulsor / repulsor
And that's because its an antigrav landraider
tough willow
the vehicles are usually to small for the pilot
primal tide
Definitely part of it is because they want to keep the size small but it still needs to fit a space marine, so it's weirdly shaped to accommodate that
tough willow
so it just looks derpy
atomic pelican
I'd love to see art of a space marine driving one of those tiny little box cars, like a fiat or something
His massive pauldrons like, scraping the sides
storm jungle
primal tide
A smart car
final spruce
Smurf are the poster boys of course they'd be painted as such
primal tide
Honestly the biggest issue is still the bikes
final spruce
Although I think GW would win more people if they showed multiple color patterns
tough willow
can the rest of us get some love
storm jungle
jesus christ
tough willow
cries in guard
storm jungle
i wish they realised like
red catches customer eyes too
or yellow
not just blue lol
final spruce
Yellow is iffy but red is far more eye catching
storm jungle
^
tough willow
or purple
tough willow
make the guard the poster boys
primal tide
I dunno, you guys are listing all these colors that ultramarines don't come in
final spruce
They are also vampire so bound to attract edgy kids
primal tide
Kinda confusing
atomic pelican
Painting my space marines bright yellow, with bananas as their icons and calling them the potassium marines
odd sparrow
nah ravens are the edgy disaster children
celest dome
The weird thing about SM vehicle is that those SM could be replaced by normal people and be just as effective
final spruce
Full of intelligent marines I hope
atomic pelican
they're actually jokaero under the armor
odd sparrow
blood angels are hot dumbass blonde himbos who just so happen to also be vampires
final spruce
Don't forget the power bananas for melee encounters
tough willow
the guard would be better poster boys
storm jungle
Nah
final spruce
Not really
storm jungle
jokes aside as much as i love them they wouldnt be
atomic pelican
as much as Ilike guard I actually disagree
odd sparrow
Marines are like. the iconic 40k thing
storm jungle
they are just Army Men
atomic pelican
Guard can look kinda like just army dudes
final spruce
Too complicated and too big of an army
storm jungle
^
tough willow
eh true
atomic pelican
Also yeah like Zher said
storm jungle
yeah this is not from a lore standpoint
final spruce
Custodes however
odd sparrow
People who know nothing about 40k know what a space marine is
storm jungle
sadly its marketing
atomic pelican
They're EXPENSIVE
final spruce
Now that's a possibility
odd sparrow
yea this is all brand recognition
tough willow
darn it
atomic pelican
Yeah Custodes seem like they're actually a great starting army, esp if yo u're just thinking economically
Since point-to-money val ue
final spruce
Unless you're thinking Forge World
atomic pelican
Oh god no
tough willow
they tend to get overwhelmed easily though
final spruce
With half of their units being Forgeworld
atomic pelican
Finecast stuff
final spruce
You think ? From my experience playing TTS, Custodes tend to overwhelm folks with the sheer number of attacks they get
tough willow
tank spam
tough willow
plasmagun spams
meltagun spam
also, they can't target everything so if you have enough squads you can overwhelm them
the key to fighting the custodes is bringing as many squads as possible
they can't hit everything
odd sparrow
go w i d e
their attacks are only as efficient as the quality of what they're hitting so flood them with trash uwu
primal tide
The ultimate irony that you can defeat custodians with garbage
crisp heath
Imperial Fists and Blood Angels are excellent poster boy material, remember 3E?
primal tide
part of it must be that blue is easier to paint than yellow or red, right?
Because they want new players to be able to paint the poster boys easily
Tho I guess contrast paint flattens that a bit
primal tide
Red is hard to highlight because you can't just turn it pink
final spruce
Yellow has an horrible cover
primal tide
And shading it is notoriously difficult when you're first starting out
final spruce
You just highlight it with orange
primal tide
Right but that's more complicated than telling the new guy to just lighten it with white or use a lighter blue
crisp heath
Green is a good color
final spruce
It is
prisma lark
green iz best!
steep zenith
Orks have the painting advantage because they can look bad and it still would be right.
marsh grail
Yes the perfect beginner army.
But does that mean someone good at painting orks will spend hours just to make it look bad?
So ultimately the quality stays the same just the amount of time you spend painting each model increases?
crisp heath
no, someone good at painting orks will just do them differently
verbal nest
Is it true that the AdMech could actually make more STCs and progress technology but they choose not to because defo not corruption they think it's heresy
final spruce
You cannot make an STC since its something archeological but yes, progress is badly viewed by the AdMech, just seeing how Cawl got shit on for his Primaris project by other space marines and his peers calling him an extremeist and a heretic
When HE was one of the Emperor's helper during the creation of said Space Marines
verbal nest
Do you think gold boy will fix that
final spruce
Gold boy ?
And I believe its not something that would be fixed because its, scenaristicly the only thing keeping Humanity from dominating again
final spruce
Well he already did with his primaris and his indomitus campaign
verbal nest
Indomitus?
final spruce
Yeah, with his Primaris Gulliman declared the Indomitus crusade
He also got rid off the corrupted High Lords of Terra with a nice switcharoo
The Indomitus crusade's role was to save the Imperium because the opnening of the Cicatrix fucked things up
open summit
Is it true that the AdMech could actually make more STCs and progress technology...
The AdMech basically believe that the Omnissiah has already given them all knowledge in the form of STC fragments, or at least all legal knowledge that isn't tech-heresy like Warp-powered machines or AI. They're not interested in creating new technology because they sincerely believe there's no point; the Omnissiah gave them technology, but then the STCs were lost, and now they need to be found again.
verbal nest
Are there any "rogue" admech that actually aren't...like that
final spruce
Hereteks
open summit
Are there any "rogue" admech that actually aren't...like that
Yes. Cawl is one. There's also the Dark Mechanicum within the Eye of Terror and the Warp, who are devoted to the Dark Gods and create warp-powered technology.
final spruce
And the guys from Stygies
open summit
That's my understanding of it at least.
final spruce
That's a pretty complete one
verbal nest
Cawl is doing what in the 42k?
potent swift
There is some inventing but it's a very slow process and requires a lot of mental gymnastics to make acceptable. Sort of a "I didn't invent anything I simply came to a divine revelation from observing the wonders of the Omnissiah" kind of deal. It has it's limits too.
final spruce
Helping Gulliman save the imperium by suppplying him with Mario Kart copies equipment for his legions and helping witht he production of Primaris
verbal nest
I'm confused
Is Gulliman secretly employing Cawl behind the imperium's back because they both know the truth?
final spruce
Yes
That's the whole thing about the creation of Primaris
It was done as a "secret"
potent swift
Roboute charged Cawl with creating better Space Marines and gave him some of the Emperor's notes regarding the creation of the Primarchs to work with it. This was before Robbie G got knifed into a coma.
final spruce
He gave him notes and the Geneseed of all Primarchs
No he is in
The Primaris creation was a project made around the 30th Millenium
verbal nest
And it didn't go forward until Gulliman came back from his coma?
potent swift
It took Cawl 10,000 years to make a better marine
final spruce
It took Cawl 10 thousand years to achieve what he did
verbal nest
Lol lazy cunt
verbal nest
Ok so is Cawl still "my flesh is weak, steel is stronk" or
Is he just a clever dude in red robes
final spruce
Very clever and complicated dude in robes
The kind of guy that takes tea with Trazyn
verbal nest
Who
potent swift
Necron character
potent swift
Infamous for being more kleptomanic than a Bloodraven and has tendency to pokeball people so he can display them in his planet-museum.
verbal nest
Ok I'm gonna sleep
crisp heath
Cawl replicated his mind and personality
He's also an amalgam of a bunch of people he's absorbed over time
open summit
Lol lazy cunt
To be fair, Cawl was working with fragmented notes; the Emperor didn't leave much behind to work with. It was basically to the point where it was a miracle that the knowledge of how to make people into new Space Marines was still around.
final spruce
I mean, Cawl created the Primaris, all their new weapons, modulable armors, he made an entire array of anti-grav ! (lost technology) vehicles for them
open summit
He even made Primaris out of all Twenty Eighteen original Space Marine Legions, going behind Robot Ghilliesuit's back to create new Astartes from Traitor geneseed.
Take these guys for example:
The "Sons of the Phoenix" chapter.
Cawl claims that they use Imperial Fists genestock, and thus are genesons of Rogal Dorn
But come on
With a name, color scheme, and heraldry like that, they're nothing less than a Loyalist Emperor's Children successor chapter.
open summit
I wonder just how suspicious Guilliman is of these non-loyalist genesons.
Plus I wonder if the Fulgrim clone Trazyn has in his collection will ever return to lead his loyalist Primaris sons.
crisp heath
That would be beautiful
Fulgrim was a good boy
A little stupid picking up strange tainted weapons though
But i eat food off the floor so i can't judge him
potent swift
Cawl's of the opinion that the Traitor Legions were more the fault of their Primarchs than their geneseed itself. Nevertheless, Rowboat told him no but no one thinks for a second Cawl wouldn't try.
crisp heath
I'd say any geneseed but word bearers and night lords is prob safe
open summit
Word Bearers I would also argue is fine since it was primarily Erebus who led everyone down the path to darkness.
Also the Emperor giving Lorgar daddy issues because of Monarchia.
And the Edict of Nikea giving the Thousand Sons no reason to exist.
crisp heath
They're susceptible to religious hysteria
open summit
Oh, I found another totally-not-loyalist-Traitor-legion-Primaris... that Cawl claims is from Guilliman's own bloodline
The "Castellans of the Rift"
Their duty is to protect the sole stable passage through the Great Rift.
Their heraldry is a skull overlaying crossed chains.
Yeah
No
These guys aren't Ultramarines
They're Iron Warriors.
primal tide
They're susceptible to religious hysteria
They'd fit in fine now because of that tho lol
open summit
Legit there's a chapter of "Salamanders" successors that are very, VERY blatantly Word Bearers, given they use the Pre-heresy Word Bearers heraldry.
They're also fanatically devoted to spreading knowledge and lore of the Imperium, and burning anything remotely "heretical."
cedar terrace
Id be down for loyalist Night Lords Primaris
It would be interesting to see them go up against their progenitors
open summit
I'm fairly certain there's at least one loyalist Night Lords chapter and one loyalist Alpha Legion chapter, both being masqueraded by Cawl as Raven Guard.
cedar terrace
Do you think the Night Lords were brutal due to their primarch? Or was it in them all along?
crisp heath
the carcharodons are probably night lords successors
open summit
Do you think the Night Lords were brutal due to their primarch? Or was it in the...
I think it was massively due to their primarch. I think part of it was also due to the sheer number of convicts and other horrible people that were sent to him to become astartes.
cedar terrace
But word is the Night Lords were already kinda brutal
Do you think Kurze exacerbated it?
open summit
Oh definitely
He was pretty tortured by both his visions of the future, and by his time on Nostramo.
open summit
Given just how much the Night Lords bonded with their primarch, I'd say he had some positive impact on the legion.
open marsh
They're Iron Warriors.
Ive never taken them as Iron Warriors. If you want IW loyalists, there are the Silver Skulls and the Minotaurs
distant harness
how can they be iron warriors if they aren't defined by doing shit in the worst possible way, and then whining about how hard everything is?
open summit
I say they're Iron Warriors because they've been assigned to one of the most thankless jobs an Astartes chapter can take, and they regularly suffer meat-grinder losses, as the Iron Warriors previously did.
open marsh
Im usually one to start looking at red flags on traitor legion loyalists, but the Castelans never struck me as particularly Iron Warriory. Their assignment isnt too much of an indicator on its own
And from what we have seen with the Sons of the Phoenix and Covenant of Fire, when Cawl makes a traitor legion primaris successor, he makes it pretty damn obvious
crisp heath
cawl is a fucking troll
open marsh
He really is
median sundial
When he wakes up does Angron just start the day as pissed as he always is or does he exponentially get more livid as the day goes on, climaxing when his body forces him to sleep due to the excess of hate drugs in his system? Assuming he even sleeps at all.
open marsh
He is always pissed all the time
They only time we have seen him not being a raging berzerker with the pissed off setting turned to 11 and the knob broken off, is during the 1st War for Armegeddeon, when he saw some Grey Knights kick so much ass, he couldnt help but salute them on the merits of their ass kickery
median sundial
Iâd imagine Angron doing that if he was a level headed man who isnât too furious to get tired. Iâm pretty sure blinking upsets him nowadays.
open marsh
He can still apprciate some good ass kicking
crisp heath
i feel bad for angron, he'd have been a cool guy and an effective primarch if he didn't have the nails
open marsh
Even Angron admits he would still have rebelled without them
Probably would have rebelled sooner
scarlet dragon
i love Yarrick and ghazghkull thraka
wide vessel
Yarrick is still alive because the orks believe him to be immortal.
crisp heath
Is the valkyrie the closest thing to transport helicopters?
final spruce
Yep
The valkyrie is the main transport flyer of the guardsmen, however, like all IG vehicles its easy to replace some pieces and turn it into a flying fortress full of lascanons
median sundial
So I watched a video on Famous Daemons, and I learned a bunch of important stuff that went under my radar. Like there was a war between the major gods, resulting in Tznteech's crystalized body being shattered into a bunch of shards that've been spread across the cosmos and the task of finding them all has been bestowed onto 2 blue horrors on a flying disk who constantly argue with each other. Or the fact that Slaanesh lost one war and cursed the daemonette that usually cheers her up in a fit of anger that made her dance forever. Among other things.
barren tapir
The masque yes, it was the favourite of slaneesh
final spruce
The Masque yes
cunning lantern
I sort of have complex-like dilema with me and Tzeentch: I love the idea and to play as Tzeentch in Chaos in the Old World boardgame, but I just don't like the style of it and it's daemons.
primal tide
This pleases tzeentch
median sundial
I also found out that some stinky fat guy is in charge of documenting all the plagues that Nurgle's Acolytes spread, and that this task is so important that the nurglings that follow him around make no noise whatsoever.
thin horizon
Recently got much more fond of the kroot. Always thought they were cool, but then I was listening to the Ciaphas Cain novels on audiobook, and the kroot who spoke gothic sounded like a slav, and I was sold.
final seal
blyat'vasa
wide vessel
Recently got much more fond of the kroot. Always thought they were cool, but the...
Kroot are dope, from what was explained to me is they donât actually like the tau and when given their tech will reverse engineer it, eventually the kroot will become their own faction if GW deems it to happen.
odd sparrow
nah that's not really accurate
Kroot have a good relationship with the tau. They don't use their technology a whole lot, they've got a might makes right/natural selection ish vibe going on there, but i don't believe there's been any real indication of them having any significant animosity
open marsh
They also may possibly have an incomplete STC from a ancient human colony on their planet
atomic pelican
Yeah the kroot have a fond respect of the tau
Considering the tau saved their homeworld
Shapers dont let other kroot eat tau for example
Idk where you got the reverse engineer part. Kroot shapers themselves often wield pulse rifles rather than the traditional kroot rifle
odd sparrow
yee
thin horizon
Actually they dont have a problem with tech, but they recognize that much like eating opponents, the hardships of a low tech life help make their people stronger and fast witted.
Yes
crisp heath
frigid mesa
hello guys
eternal ledge
thick shadow
This image contains at least 2 of western spies.
crisp heath
you don't squat on the heels all the way unless you intend to squat for a longer time
conversational/there's nowhere to sit/waiting squat = on the heels
picking something up = any way is ok
finite roost
as i a slav i can say if you squat for a short time you are not a slav
always for the long run
and when it comes to picking something up
just bend
i think
maybe it is ok
crisp heath
i'm also a slav and if i need to pick sth up, if it's heavy or i don't want my hair in my face, i'll squat down to pick it up
but eg in the shower you go heels down
finite roost
it makes sense
verbal nest
Have any normal humans ever been warp fucked but they haven't turned into paste or zombies or whatever
final spruce
Being "warp fucked" is too vague for anything
What do you mean by that : heavily tainted by the warp , warp touched ?
Or something else ?
rotund siren
do you mean being in a ship when the Gellar field fails?
because in that case, the answer is that they all die
potent swift
If by "warp fucked" you mean they've been exposed to Chaos artifacts than they might come out okayish depending on the level of contact and their faith in the Emperor.
vast frigate
Depends completely yeah
if they give themselves in to the warp and the gods they might join whatever invades their ship
otherwise, they tend to not have a very good time
median sundial
Is there a story where an Inquisitor or someone wakes up one day to see something with the Imperium terribly off and almost goes crazy trying to figure out whatâs causing it, only to go the full way after finding out itâs because of a rumor the Orks had running around.
?
celest dome
because in that case, the answer is that they all die
Or become infected with some of Nurgle's Diseases [Gellarpox]
rose sandal
I see a lot of posts on the steam forums about the characters from the trailer, I was just wondering: If I remember my Eisenhorn, Ravenor and Ciaphas Cain right. Inquisition goons come from all over the place, Arbiters, Bounty-hunters. Hell Eisenhorn even employs a "pleasure girl" who turns out to be a blank and in the Dark Heresy RPG there is even a career path for "scum". They also have a balanced male/female ratio, which is rare for 40k.
but maybe I'm missing something, anything lore wise that doesn't make any sense in the trailer?
final spruce
Yup, this is why our characters are convicts
We were local convicts with what we assume useful talents and the Inquisitor uses us to solve the Chaos Coup problem Atoma Prime is having
Like how in the teaser trailer he sends conscripts to investigate the issues
rose sandal
if the problem is too big? we did the imperium a favour by getting rid of dangerous convicts, if they can handle it? we did the imperium a favour by eliminating cultists
Yeah that sounds quite 40k, I like it
final spruce
You get it well
Then again you seem to be well read in the 40k universe so its to be expected
rose sandal
Yeah, I saw this game and thought it was right up my alley (with the possible omission of single player, but I digress). I was very confused by the posts as it both made sense to me from a lore perspective and a game play perspective.
final spruce
I'll say it short
Don't navigate the Steam Forums too much
Hedge is having a hard time keeping it clean
The /r seems decent, but here we have had a lot of people helping to gather infos etc
atomic pelican
Steam forums are like the lowest level of a underhive but without the Fun Stuff
final spruce
I'd also advice you to check the pins in #theorycrafting for everything we have gathered so far and was soft confirmed
rose sandal
Thanks!
celest dome
We were local convicts with what we assume useful talents and the Inquisitor use...
Was it confirmed that we were local ? Maybe we were picked up from other places ?
final spruce
I never said we were locals but it sounds like the most logic choice
chrome oriole
I want to give to a friend of mine a taste of the lore around the mitghy BLACK TEMPLARS CHAPTER and I need to find him a good BT book, any idea ?
Thx for any advices !
đ
prisma lark
I want to give to a friend of mine a taste of the lore around the mitghy BLACK T...
Helsreach
Conquest of Armageddon
there might be more but those are the only ones I know about (although I haven't read either)
potent swift
Helsreach is good culture, the only way to get it that I know of is with the War for Armageddon omnibus which has quite a few stories featuring the BT.
Actually, I suppose there's also the audiobook if you just want Helsreach
Alternatively, there's a really good fan-movie of Helsreach on youtube
cedar terrace
The fanmovie does focus a bit more on Grimaldus tho
And Richard cuts out a few or so filler chapters
Ostensibly for time and also convenience
open marsh
Needs more Andrei
gray trellis
Question of the day: I saw a video about what happen when the orks start worshiping chaos (funny how if a deamon posses an ork, the ork will end up in power and imprison the deamon, obtaining their powers...lol) so the question is, Tau can get corrupted by chaos?
potent swift
I don't think so? I'm not super well versed in Tau lore but they have less Warp presence so at the very least it would take a lot of effort
scenic bolt
normally no, but I think there's one or two instance in lore where it has happened
gray trellis
lol
atomic pelican
Yeah they have a lessened presence but not none, apparently.
Iirc there was a water caster who got tzeentch corrupted
So overwhelming presences still affect them
open marsh
Question of the day: I saw a video about what happen when the orks start worship...
Yes
A Tau Water Caste got corrupted and went bonkers
As PJC said. Tau have a small warp presence, not no warp presence.
They get corrupted less often because they dont empower the chaos gods much, but if a god or daemon REALLY wants to, they can corrupt them
gray trellis
oh wow
cloud kindle
He touched a imperial vessels gellar field generators without protection
Also cant exactly remember where but a fire tau fell under the sway of khorne during a daemon invasion from tzeench and used their weapon as a club
cloud kindle
Cant remember where i heard it or if i was just high
atomic pelican
Ur thinking of shas la kais I think and him being khorme corrupted is just a meme
He solo'd a lord of change but that was because he was a fps protagonist
Unless theres some Other khornetau thing im unfamiliar with
Yet another reason melee battlesuits would be sick. For that specific purpose
atomic pelican
Classic tau
cloud kindle
Warband keeps one around as a mascot
Cant kill anything in melee but he gives it everything he has got
10/10 would watch
atomic pelican
The moment tau get fusionblade crisis suits as a regular is the day I am fulfilled
Ive recently rewatched pacific rim and uggh plsss
cloud kindle
Primaris titans when
cloud kindle
And can deploy those bunkers everyome likes
I actually really like those lol
They are adorable
atomic pelican
Tbh I dont even think the primaris models look so bad. Its just the oversaturation that annoys me
storm jungle
Tbh I dont even think the primaris models look so bad. Its just the oversaturati...
like after awhile i just see blue sludge
cloud kindle
Liquefied tau
rotund siren
I don't like that
rotund siren
I don't like those implications
rotund siren
The very concept of selling bathwater is inherently Slaaneshi
atomic pelican
Dis is tru. But isnt that just a ultramarine problem for having perhaps the most boring SM colors?
storm jungle
Yeeee exactly
I get thats its eye-catching but so is red, or green
They're basically plastered everywhere as a marketing tactic
atomic pelican
Reminds me of the stormcast "default" colors
Gold and blue gold and blue
Pls no more
final spruce
I'd prefer them silver tbh
atomic pelican
Same
final spruce
A silvery-blue
atomic pelican
Honestly any color is better than gold and blue imo
cloud kindle
Gold and red
atomic pelican
Yes
final spruce
Gold and red makes me thing of pimp Mc Donalds
crisp heath
They goth'd up the recent primaris and i dig that
atomic pelican
Ronald Mcdonald eternals
crisp heath
The scale is a big improvement
crisp heath
So heretic borgar was actually macs?
crisp heath
they got new models?
The judiciar
storm jungle
Eh
storm jungle
Chaplains kinda already did that though, but it counts
crisp heath
Yeah he's a good chaplain conversion
rotund siren
The only true axiom
crisp heath
Your army always needs more bits and chains
Distinguish your hq by putting golden chains on it
rotund siren
Chains are, indeed, the most important bits
final spruce
I pimped my army commander with a bigass coat, servo skulls and gold chains
Should do the trick
crisp heath
Good
rotund siren
perfect
final seal
chainsaw is their weakness
weak fern
Holy Emperor God
rotund siren
gravy
final seal
yum
rotund siren
yum, Nurgle gravy
rotund siren
boop what? booping anything Nurgle-y could get you dreadfully ill
supernaturally even
weak fern
ITS ONE BOOP OR ITS NOTHINGS !
rotund siren
Good day and good luck then, Sister Kamelia. May you survive each and every day
marsh grail
So I was playing space hulk and had to go disable some thrusters by shooting six guys attached to them. Who are they I couldnât manage to find info on any wikis.
peak hamlet
In the second mission? Just a bunch of unnecessary servitors
potent swift
Under any circumstance that would require some kind of AI, the Imperium just plugs in a semi-lobotomized cyborg to do it instead.
marsh grail
Thanks that makes sense.
serene eagle
Thanks that makes sense.
Also AI is HERESY, to the average person bc CYBERDAEMONS but actually its because there is a malicious god who can posess sentient AI's
final spruce
Its more because of what happened with the Men of Iron
You know, fully armed and autonomous machines that get sentience and decide they don't need humans no more
Created by autonomous industries
odd sparrow
Ye. Also like, in 40k AI is just as vulnerable to chaos as biological beings
Still not sure how that works but
atomic pelican
Oo that reminds me
final spruce
Daemons can invade technology
atomic pelican
I hope we see some nurgle corrupted korvesa in the coming deathguard/tau conflict
Thatd be cool
final spruce
What do you think daemon engines are
odd sparrow
To be fair afaik the usual vibe with them is they're daemons kinda bound to some contraption by the local chaos fuckboy
Tbh if there is any time to be exploring AI getting boned by chaos then it is def now. And I do kinda hope they eventually explore that
final spruce
Machine spirits are known to be influenced by Chaos
Especially the old warship ones
final spruce
They are yes
But usually on a lesser degree
Like not autonomous or doing too small of a task not to be able to usurp control
odd sparrow
Not sure if the ambiguity around machine spirits isn't just a result of GW being wildly inconsistent tbh
final spruce
Also that
storm jungle
Not sure if the ambiguity around machine spirits isn't just a result of GW being...
Yep that
like its all gonna be revealed to be the Void Dragon in the end times anyway, its the most easy way to get the mechanicus out the picture
odd sparrow
In my hc a machine spirit is a blanket term for like. Anything weird a machine does. So could be an active AI, could be some software ish thing bugging out, could be smthn getting mechanically jammed
Doesn't matter to the tech priests, that's all the machine spirit and it requires incense
And yeah most probably they are going in that direction