#40k-lore-chat

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storm jungle
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uwu

atomic pelican
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THANJ U

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GOOD GOD

odd sparrow
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I hate that very much

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take photoshop away from this person

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asap

storm jungle
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its Microsoft Paint

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LMAO

atomic pelican
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How 2 rotate crisis suit in paint

cloud kindle
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im gonna need a heavy bolter for this heresy

odd sparrow
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... can you uninstall paint from windows or do we have to take your entire OS

finite roost
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Btw, arent tau battesuits just better space marines?

odd sparrow
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nah they have a v diff role

storm jungle
atomic pelican
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Why would you uninstall paint

finite roost
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Yeah why

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Paint is paint

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Oh i have an idea why

atomic pelican
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If I could use mspaint to paint minis I would, to cursed effect

odd sparrow
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Battlesuits very from anything from like, mobile super-heavy infantry (crisis battlesuits), slow moving anti armour firing line things (broadsides), stealthsuits and the big bois

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they're way more diverse than regular spess mehreens

atomic pelican
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Yee battlesuitd are super diverse. Rlly depends om the type

odd sparrow
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the closest equivalent is the crisisbois but even then

finite roost
atomic pelican
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Even crisis suits can serve all kinds of roles based on their gear

odd sparrow
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nods

finite roost
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Yep

atomic pelican
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Tau are all abt combined arms and versatility

finite roost
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Yes they are

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Like here is a tank. BAM FUSION BLASTER. Some guardsmen here, YEET THEM WITH A GATLING CANON

storm jungle
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meanwhile that one marine

"METAL GEAR, IT CANT BE."

finite roost
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Bolter is all you got

odd sparrow
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I adore how like

atomic pelican
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One of my reasons for liking Tau is bcuz theyre one of the few xeno factions who repeatdly win

odd sparrow
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there are apparently just headass bird dinosaurs alongside all these hyper high tech efficient battlesuits

atomic pelican
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YEP

finite roost
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Yep

atomic pelican
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I love it tho bcuz the tau respect kroot hunter culture

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And dont enforce da suits

odd sparrow
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you engage the tau on a planet and it's a 50/50 chance between a conventional military and them loosing one of their batshit insane auxiliary races on you

finite roost
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Kroot got the big meatball of death. You cannot argue with that

atomic pelican
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tfw u expect the tau then get ripped apart by kroot instead

odd sparrow
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"i was expecting tanks and i got floating bears"

atomic pelican
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Ferocious

odd sparrow
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F

storm jungle
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"Da hoontah must hoont."

finite roost
odd sparrow
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efuhoeoed kroot do NOT have yorkshire accents

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cursed

storm jungle
cloud kindle
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dont those kroot have an STC

odd sparrow
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idk what accent they have but-

finite roost
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Yep

odd sparrow
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it's not english

cloud kindle
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those fuckers

storm jungle
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"Your flag is up. Now what."

odd sparrow
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I love how sassy they are

finite roost
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Imagine if vespids could talk

odd sparrow
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we're just hear to eat things dude

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wtf is a metastrategy i'm hungry

finite roost
atomic pelican
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Im a simple auxillary, tau, I eat, its what I do

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Im a kroot who likes to snooze

odd sparrow
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oh shit it's snowing

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one sec gotta gawk at that for a sec

storm jungle
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YEEE

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go for it

finite roost
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I remember i was plaing UA in DOW soulstorm

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I got one kroot squad to the end

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And it ate so much i has more hp then tigershark

odd sparrow
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bless

finite roost
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I litteraly killed a grey knight paladin squad with kroot carnivores

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Strong suckers

atomic pelican
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Gue'ron'sha, extra crunchy

finite roost
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Crunchy outside, soft inside

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They died just after it by a warhound titan sadly

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Damm inquisition

cloud kindle
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ordos hereticus did not take kindly to you killing their favorite troops so called in a favour from ordos xenos

odd sparrow
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my poor cpu

cloud kindle
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eat it

rotund siren
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not enough purity seals

finite roost
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Imagine tech priests finding DOW

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And see themself

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Being killed by necrons

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As they build for guardsmen

celest dome
vast frigate
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i like that

cloud kindle
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i do not see enough incense lit

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the machine spirit might grow incensed at the lack of incense

finite roost
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They have a chad voice ngl

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"AH, A CHALLANGE WORTHT OF MY SKILLS"

barren tapir
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Aaaah Feth! I missed the Van Saar discussion... Why many tech related discussions happen when i'm not here?? WHYYYYYY??????!!!!!!!
I will just say that Van Saar use a very technical language...
Like, they use harshtag to indicate that everything they say is connected, or koders to indicate people who mind-wipe modo-task servitors...
And the language they use is called Tek-Nik-El

storm jungle
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god whoever wrote that needs to get shot

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also i like how people complain that they dont fit the aesthetic of 40k when uhh THATS THE POINT

open marsh
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With gang names like the Code Wardens, or the Dayglow Dragons

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I half expected them to have very Akira type motorcycles

open marsh
crisp heath
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Anyone have the fan art of Angron lifting a Titan's foot?

barren tapir
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I'm wondering if there are some Van Saar gangs infected by GSC like there is for escher and orlocks

plush mason
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i wonder how the cult mechanicus feels about the "laymechanics" of the underhive gangs

barren tapir
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In the old days the lore was there were tech priest everywhere there was something technological, now it seems that they aren't as capillary... So i guess they disregard those people as inferior and not worthy their attention... Van Saar on the other hand may have some tech that may interest them, if only they knew about it of course

plush mason
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would they be seen as "tech adepts"?

barren tapir
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I think not, not by the Ad. Mech. maybe yes by all others

plush mason
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afaik a tech adept is someone that works with tech but isnt a memeber of the cult mechanicus

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but idk if thats correct or not

gray trellis
plush mason
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@gray trellis you should not look up the penal regiments then...

gray trellis
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are those prisioners?

plush mason
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yes

gray trellis
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meh

plush mason
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there are whole planets of people born as prisoners

gray trellis
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okay, thats no ok

plush mason
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yeah imperial law is all fucked up

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cases can take many generations to close and when they do it falls on the desendants of the acussed to serve the sentance

gray trellis
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fuck... i mean, regular penal batalions like in real life are ok for me, but those generational ones...wow

plush mason
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um these penal regiments are anything but normal

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iirc it only takes a few squad memebers getting punished to have the whole battalion sent to them

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there is no justice in the imperium

potent swift
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A plea of innocence is guilty of wasting the court's time.

plush mason
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^

gray trellis
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oh wow, if the Tau werent so communists, i would prefer them over the imperium

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BUT

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im part of the Humanity First Movement

plush mason
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cast system and communisum doesnt mix at all

gray trellis
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arent they just following the greater good and equality to all people, but they are actually a council that wants to hold power? (Basically all commies through history)

plush mason
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they have different casts that all memebers of sociaty are assined to at birth

gray trellis
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OH

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basically India until 1955 i think

plush mason
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yup

gray trellis
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what does the lowest cast do commonly?

odd sparrow
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n- no lol

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don't let an indian hear you saying that they'd probs be rightfully offended

plush mason
odd sparrow
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The tau system can't really be compared to anything we've had irl. It's an oligarchic kinda aristocratic utopian collectivist vibe

gray trellis
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oh, they are horizontaly and not vertically

odd sparrow
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with a whole manifest destiny ish thing going on

plush mason
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fire is the warriors air is the pilots earth is the builders and water are the diplomates

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and the etherial cast sit above them all

potent swift
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I was never clear on this but do the auxiliary races get assigned castes too or are they just their own thing?

odd sparrow
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They aren't assigned castes, that's just for the blueberries themselves

primal tide
odd sparrow
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perish

primal tide
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am ded

gray trellis
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Oligarchy Communism then

primal tide
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How can they be commies if they blue instead of red

crisp heath
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role reversal

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but the anarchists are still red. khornates.

gray trellis
crisp heath
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do they though

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i didn't get much of an organized command structure vibe, not speaking of the actual world eaters legion

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but i don't see any other faction that doesn't either have a rigid set power structure, or at least a social structure ie drukhari

storm jungle
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what kind of hierarchy we talkin' and which faction?

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👀

primal tide
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Whichever one people are feeling the most argumentative about at the given moment

storm jungle
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Darn

crisp heath
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i said that khornates are probably the closest to anarchy

potent swift
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In a universe with Orks? I doubt that

storm jungle
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LOL

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Like ork hierarchy is something you can count literally on your hands.

odd sparrow
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e.g. i have authority over u for x reason. meanwhile the khornate approach is more just do what i say cus i'm more powerful than u and i will take ur skull fuckboy

rotund siren
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that's orks too, if you think about it

odd sparrow
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yee

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they both have that vibe

rotund siren
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though I think some of the ork stuff is also because of ork magic?

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iirc?

storm jungle
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That and being bigger

odd sparrow
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hm there is the whole like, prophet of gork and mork thing which i guess is kinda hierarchical

rotund siren
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something about how the WAAAGH!!! field means that war bosses are bigger and make smaller orks want to follow them

odd sparrow
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but that's also kinda a religious thing so idk how it fits in

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Idk if any author has like, fully tackled how WAAAGH! energy is meant to work

rotund siren
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Yeah, idk

storm jungle
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Its just psychic stuff

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nothing much beyond that i think?

rotund siren
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there is Brutally Kunnin, but I never read it

odd sparrow
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yee that's the vibe i get

rotund siren
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and idk if that book had much about that stuff

storm jungle
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Brutally Kunnin gives some nice info on other stuff

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like how orks dont power the chaos gods

rotund siren
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ahhh, alright

odd sparrow
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hm interesting

storm jungle
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and their energies are siphoned into gork and mork for example

odd sparrow
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i should probs check that out if i get the chance

rotund siren
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neat

storm jungle
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and thas why demons hate them lol

potent swift
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I'm still waiting for Brutal Kunnin to return to stores

storm jungle
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and orks apparently according to the book believe in reincarnation

odd sparrow
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DUDE WHY DO THESE RANDOM MORTALS GET THEIR WHOLE PANTHEON TO THEMSELVES

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oh lmao

storm jungle
odd sparrow
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god bless

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or mork bless

potent swift
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You mean gork bless, right?

rotund siren
odd sparrow
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mork (or possibly gork)

storm jungle
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Yeee! Its really recent fluff too so not even 1 year old

rotund siren
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is that part of how Mekboys and Painboys work?

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that they learned stuff via

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magic past life memories?

odd sparrow
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iirc the explanation for that stuff is that they have inherent understanding of that as a matter of genetics? i can't recall if it's meant to be a psychic thing

potent swift
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I'm pretty sure the info is just genetically coded into them

rotund siren
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I thought it was always Mork giving them info, or their genes telling them stuff

potent swift
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Via Old One nonsense

storm jungle
rotund siren
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orks sure are funky

odd sparrow
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It's possibly a point of contradiction idk. I recall it being just genetics

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*fungi

storm jungle
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I kind of like it being confusing

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makes sense in a way

potent swift
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The Orks as a species are just a rundown superweapon built by literal wizards, there should be gaps in how they work.

storm jungle
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or as Big E puts it

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they're a superweapon who werent built with an off-switch

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Old Ones pls

rotund siren
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I mean, technically they do have one

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it's called becoming stupid when they don't have a proper enemy

odd sparrow
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old ones were lawful good dumbasses tl;dr

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step 1: create a biological superweapon that can hypothetically survive in any climate or condition
step 2: drop this weapon on your enemies
step 3: ???
step 4: ???
step 5: great now orks are everywhere

rotund siren
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lmao

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amazing explanation their Ratty

storm jungle
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Imma screenshot that lmao

rotund siren
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but step 3 is clearly: Die

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or maybe that's step 4

odd sparrow
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they get sodomised by enslavers at some point there

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also skelebois

storm jungle
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I just love the fact that orks are never gonna go away.

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They are so deeply rooted into the milky way that its impossible to get rid of them.

potent swift
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They're just a fact of life now.

odd sparrow
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lmao same

rotund siren
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You pick up a rock on a new planet, you'll either find an ork or a necron

cloud kindle
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and they only need one braincell to dominate the galaxy

odd sparrow
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armageddon hive civilians probs get flashbacks upon seeing a shroom

potent swift
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Who even knows how many xenos civilizations had their moment of first contact be defined by the words "Yous a git!" followed by enthusiastic face punching.

rotund siren
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damn

storm jungle
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I love it

rotund siren
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are orks part of the reason everything is so grimdark?

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i didn't even think of that

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there could be civilizations out there surrounded by orks, who think the whole galaxy is nothing buts orks

storm jungle
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Oh god funny you say that

rotund siren
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No

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That was theoretical

cloud kindle
rotund siren
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Please don't tell me they did that

storm jungle
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this is old fluff iirc but the admech once sent a probe outside of the milky way. And did you know what they heard on its first recordings?

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ORKS ORKS ORKS ORKS

rotund siren
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oh no

storm jungle
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its old fluff its fine!

rotund siren
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sure

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now that the universe (or just the galaxy?) is split by the rift, maybe that's become retconned

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or maybe they only went one direction

storm jungle
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We shall see in the future my good man

odd sparrow
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surrounding galaxies are just nids vs orks

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canon

storm jungle
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🐛

rotund siren
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uh oh

odd sparrow
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mushroom vs bug on apocalyptic scale

storm jungle
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Im gonna take the mushrooms

cloud kindle
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well theres also whoever created the blackstone fortresses

storm jungle
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oh GOD

odd sparrow
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probs the oldbois and/or eldargodbois

cloud kindle
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not sure on that

odd sparrow
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possibly the same, most definitely never gonna be elaborated on cus it's better ambigious anyways

storm jungle
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The Fortresses themselves were assembled in a solar construction yard, something like a Dyson Sphere.
Or Dyson Swarm.

rotund siren
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wow

cloud kindle
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the true god of horror

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matt ward

storm jungle
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The Rogue Trader in the game/novels has a vision of their construction.

But can't really understand what he's seeing.

They are each controlled by a shard of the soul of the eldar god Vaul.

Or so the Eldar believe at any rate. This may be wrong.

rotund siren
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I didn't know vacuums could make massive fortresses

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neat

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(joking, I know what a Dyson Sphere/Swarm is)

cloud kindle
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i mean a new one arrived recently

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and its very active

storm jungle
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Yeee also the map in the necron 9th edition codex shows some of their locations

odd sparrow
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they vibin

storm jungle
odd sparrow
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man these maps though

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ever just realize how moderately little of the galaxy the imperium actually owns

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with so many necron and ork things just literally everywhere

rotund siren
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The Galaxy is Vast

cloud kindle
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not to mention the imperium is comprised of millions of worlds

rotund siren
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yeah

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I doubt even they know how many worlds they actually have

odd sparrow
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i mean, that's a map of the galaxy dilara just posted

cloud kindle
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they dont

rotund siren
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it's why making original regiments and whatnot is so easy

odd sparrow
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obvs they consistently contradict eachother and stuff but still

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necrons bi g

storm jungle
odd sparrow
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yea big western roman empire vibes

rotund siren
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plus there's the fact that there are still countless human-habitating worlds just everywhere

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the galaxy's got a lotta stuff

storm jungle
rotund siren
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too much stuff for this very simple, backwards, and useless Imperium

cloud kindle
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i blame lorgar

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and erebus

odd sparrow
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Yea. My interpretation of the imperium is always kinda just that they administratively own very few worlds, they kinda own quite a few more but the majority of worlds are pretty much totally separate from imperial power structures

plush mason
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i think we found the chaos worshiper

odd sparrow
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excepting like, basic stuff like the imperial tithe and whatever

storm jungle
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Yeee

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the tithe is simply there to keep Terra alive

serene eagle
plush mason
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not the blood tithe tho

serene eagle
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oh god I didn't know poxwalkers were still concious like headcrab hosts

plush mason
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thats for the imperial guard

odd sparrow
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e.g. a bunch of tribesman that don't speak any language vaguely recognisable outside of their planet who treat the coming of an imperial cruiser to take a new regiment as some great event but know nothing about the imperium beyond that

rotund siren
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yep

odd sparrow
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gotta get those grimdark points

rotund siren
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"UUUUUUAAAAAAAAAAAAAGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"

serene eagle
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that was fuuuucckkeed

rotund siren
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that too

odd sparrow
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that too

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heck

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Gotta give us reason to want to kill them asap

rotund siren
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yes

storm jungle
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Yeah but thats the worst part

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these guys are happy

rotund siren
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and make us sympathize with them and hate the heretics even MORE

storm jungle
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some of the first screenshots actually show them smiling

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its creepy af

odd sparrow
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they did??

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i didn't spot that

storm jungle
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YE!

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1 sec

odd sparrow
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checking rn

rotund siren
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woah

cloud kindle
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im gonna need a heavy flamer for this heresy

odd sparrow
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previous depictions have gone in the same direction so would make sense

rotund siren
serene eagle
storm jungle
storm jungle
rotund siren
odd sparrow
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yep they're def grinning

serene eagle
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because you don't even get to be brainwashed

storm jungle
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"Nurgle is boring."

serene eagle
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*No control I mean

rotund siren
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me and the boys grinning whilst trapped within our own minds

serene eagle
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I imagine fatshark will pull the l4d excuse and say that these 4 have rare anti-plague genes

storm jungle
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Mmmm space cancer....

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also YEP

serene eagle
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bc otherwise you tend to get fucked up real quick as a normal human fighting without a hazmat suit

serene eagle
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in regular humans faith just keeps them from routing

storm jungle
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though the Sisters of Battle version is weird since its never explained, it was theorized to be Big E warp powers

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but with the Pariah Nexus thing

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its currently ambigious

odd sparrow
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Yeah that's pretty much it. If ur a psychic entity and u believe something then it will, to some extent, manifest with warp fuckery

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obvs with regular ass humans that's extremely slight

storm jungle
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Yeee like ratty says humans are actually all psychic

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they all got a "presence" basically

odd sparrow
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and with stuff like tau, with barely any psychic presence at all, they have almost no effect whatsoever. A tau'va-ish warp entity has manifested but that's blamed on all the other races in the tau empire

serene eagle
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Faith in normal humans only allows for protection from mind-warp-fuckery

odd sparrow
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e.g. fucking humans spawning warpshit

serene eagle
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like no matter how faithful you are if a daemon shreds you with mind bullets you die

odd sparrow
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yee

serene eagle
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but if you are ultra faithful and willful the daemon can't possess you

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or mind control you

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Sisters of battle are uhhhh different

odd sparrow
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Living saints are kinda chocked up as being vaguely daemon prince equivalents for big e

serene eagle
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they are like the 1% of the population who can BELIEVE so hard it manifests powers

distant harness
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celestine is kind of her own thing, all living saints are, but yeah strong enough faith can cause literal miracles in setting

odd sparrow
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By my interpretation they rightfully shouldn't be able to do that without significant* psychic powers. Like, but like dilara said the SoB stuff isn't really explained

serene eagle
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Its also probable that the higher power wielding SOB are latent psykers

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for lower tier SOB the 'miracles' are Waahghghh stuff like guns not jamming, etc

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a power sword flickering back to life despite a depleted battery, etc etc

storm jungle
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Or healing from a literal deathray like the 9th edition trailer

serene eagle
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Sisters of battle are rad

odd sparrow
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tl;dr humans are less efficient orks

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who wouldn't fangirl the emperor tbh

serene eagle
odd sparrow
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hoifhg i remember that

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mood

storm jungle
odd sparrow
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any depiction of big e that doesn't have him with a RIDICULOUSLY chiselled face is just wrong

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i approve

storm jungle
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A turkish native american

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I love him

odd sparrow
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hot take: what accent does big e have

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beyond he changes it

storm jungle
odd sparrow
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I interpret him as sounding kinda greek

atomic pelican
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He sounds like jerma trying to appease chat

serene eagle
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some weird kind of latin

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because that's probably where high/low gothic comes from

odd sparrow
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ye it has to be like, south-ish european for me

storm jungle
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his TTS voice is really good

odd sparrow
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oh yeah that is true

storm jungle
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stellaris but this is the same parody character and voice actor lol

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"LEAVE MY GALAXY OR MMM SUPER DIE."

odd sparrow
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lmao

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hm so like. if big e can change his appearance to suit his ends, like i assume he can, is femboy big e possible

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in a gold croptop

storm jungle
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To quote a meme of someone asking him what race he is:

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"Homo sapien."

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so thats a big YES to your question

odd sparrow
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dfgpdga i approve

storm jungle
odd sparrow
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cute big e is the only valid big e

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smol e

storm jungle
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Absolutely

odd sparrow
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I love him so much

storm jungle
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owo

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also fem-big-e

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for anyone curious lol

plush mason
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i dont know how to respond to this

odd sparrow
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all the sword lesbians are gonna love that

open marsh
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I guess I'm a sword lesbian?

cloud kindle
odd sparrow
placid timber
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I want to play thirsty sword lesbians so badly

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Its a ttrpg where everyone plays disaster lesbians

hardy elbow
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YES

odd sparrow
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you notice a pretty girl in the necromancer's entourage. roll for constitution.

placid timber
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Bout to risk it all

odd sparrow
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Worthy

crisp heath
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I wish iron brothers were worshipping hashut

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Instead of lame chaos undivided

dense glen
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To be fair, the Emperor being a somewhat powerful pskyer could provide a visual image of what he liked to whomever was in front of him

crisp heath
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Eh

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Maybe

dense glen
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I wouldnt put it past him that he would have done so, since sometimes masculinity in form might not have been the best way of introduction. He did follow certain cultural ideals when he was close before his "official" arrival on to the planets surface

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Aka Getting slaughtered with Russ

celest dome
dense glen
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Corax

cloud kindle
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corax saw two images

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one of the emperor and one of a simple plain man in a robe

open marsh
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When he appeared to Ezekiel Sedayne, prior to the Unification Wars, he appears as a man in rich clothes. His hair was brown, long, and clean. The Emperor's face both was youthful and old. His eyes were placid brown and deeper than time. When speaking to Ezekiel, Ezekiel states that he looks different than when he appeared to the people. The Emperor states that he does change his appearance sometimes, but claimed that his appearance to Ezekiel was "truthful".

barren tapir
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Indeed big E can change his appearance, i also think that he conducted genetic experiments on himself... There is also an image of him with a piece of paper, without armour...

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Also yes, the imperium think that it control all the galaxy, but in truth he just has some systems, and even the segmentum solar hasn't only humans, there were a fortress world held by a CSM warband too, other than an ork empire IIRC, oh, and even a roaming craftworld IIRC

storm jungle
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Yeah they basically took a map of the galaxy

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Painted it red

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and went

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"Oh yeah this is all ours."

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cue the alien screeching

cloud kindle
#

if they want it they can come and claim it

#

The galaxy belongs to the Nords Imperium!

storm jungle
#

The Emprah is smiling down on me xeno

#

CAN YOU SAY THE SAME

final spruce
#

I mean Big E is slowly getting his skin back, which is nice

finite roost
#

get's his skin back

#

what

#

explain plz

final spruce
#

Yup, the artworks shows that the Emperor is actually healing with time

rotund siren
#

huh

#

so much for being a decaying body

final spruce
#

As much as a skeleton can

open marsh
final spruce
#

I guess this is why the SoS feel so weird about all of this

finite roost
#

well, while he is sitting on the golden throne, to psychic nulls and phariachs he appears normal

#

so i guess

final spruce
#

Since they see what the Emperor truly is

finite roost
#

that would be right

open marsh
barren tapir
#

I still cannot understand how some SoS started to worship him

cloud kindle
#

cause hes hot

finite roost
#

i think it is more like of a worship cuz ecleziarch kind of deal

barren tapir
final spruce
#

Because SoS are seen as Pariah but thanks to big E they are surrounded by people that care about them etc

cloud kindle
#

custodes and SoS best friends forever

open marsh
finite roost
open marsh
#

They worship him because he was nice to them

finite roost
#

he did not rage quit when he saw them

#

like all did

barren tapir
final spruce
#

I'm searching for Dark Imeprium's artwork of the Emperor with his sword

barren tapir
#

Thanks

final spruce
#

Where he has msot of skin on his torso and half of his face back compared to the old artwork

#

Artowrk that was updated aswell

barren tapir
finite roost
#

well

#

he has skin on torso now

final spruce
#

He has small muscles yes

barren tapir
#

What if the golden throne failing is his work?

finite roost
#

but ngl the old throne looked much better

finite roost
barren tapir
#

Or maybe not

open marsh
barren tapir
#

Also, speaking of blanks, we can also be invisible to normal humans too, on top of being invisible to demons

#

Really, becoming blanks is the best evolution for humanity

final spruce
#

I your nose has cartilage but this doesn't grow back

#

Unless Big E wishes so

finite roost
#

there is evolution sped up by the mepror

#

human<astartes<custodes<primarch<BIG E

open marsh
finite roost
#

isn't he sitting on skulls?

#

SKULLS FOR THE SKULL THRONE

final spruce
#

I mean, the Emperor wanted Humanity to evolve

cloud kindle
#

death could be a good thing

finite roost
cloud kindle
#

allow him to respawn

final spruce
#

And in a way he is right, humankind are becoming more warp sensitive with time

open marsh
cloud kindle
#

then super big e emerges

barren tapir
#

Astartes, nor custodes, nor primarchs were for speeding up mankind evolution

cloud kindle
#

with his daemons

final spruce
#

Yeah, don't forget the Emperor is holding the Daemons trying to invade Terra because of the failed webway project creating a hole for daemons to come

finite roost
# cloud kindle allow him to respawn

i mean, while he is gone warp travel would not be able to occur (astronomican). This thing by itself would be a dealbreaker without mentioning the destruction of terra

barren tapir
#

With the collecting of SoS to terra then it would be probable another try with the webway i think

finite roost
cloud kindle
#

just as planned

final spruce
#

Really ? That doesn't sound very Vulkan-y

finite roost
#

he did

barren tapir
cloud kindle
#

the talisman of seven hammers

final spruce
#

Well you could travel without the Astronomicon but that's really dangerous

cloud kindle
#

vulkan didnt know what he created until he reached the emperor on the throne

barren tapir
#

He make a talisman, yes, and he installed it, but he didn't remember making it, so it is speculated that it was the emperor guiding him

finite roost
barren tapir
finite roost
#

kinda like tau did

barren tapir
finite roost
#

but they forgot about gellar fields

finite roost
barren tapir
finite roost
#

but it would be MUCH harder

#

won't be

finite roost
barren tapir
#

It depend on the crew you have, SoS on board? It wouldn't be that dangerous, no SoS, praise that the gellar field stay up and that it didn't get infected

finite roost
#

SoS are not that common tho

barren tapir
#

Eeeehhh, lore about blanks, and SoS too, are extremely scarce, but in a fragment of the new lore it was stated that the SoS, after the heresy were sent away, some of them settled on some worlds, managing to keep their aura at low level so to interact with people, and maybe even having childrens, so we may have a surge of recruits for them, and we also have the filln in the blanks regimental standard, which hint at an increased numbers of blanks being found

finite roost
#

like the more amount of psykers before the age of strife

final spruce
#

Damn

finite roost
#

after the Opening of the EoT

final spruce
#

Now you make me wanna have a blank character for IG specialized in fucking up psykers

finite roost
#

this actualy makes sense

#

not that much

#

but some

barren tapir
finite roost
#

we all know that blanks are realy good against psykers

#

like

#

imagine a normal person

#

then

#

the psyker has a knife

knotty cove
#

i thought blanks were snatched up wherever they were found for SoS/culexus training?

finite roost
#

then the blank has a gun

finite roost
barren tapir
finite roost
#

there are other blanks

knotty cove
#

hence culexus

finite roost
#

yes

barren tapir
#

We also have SM blanks

finite roost
#

like the psykers

finite roost
knotty cove
#

ye, didnt think you meant for culexus training

finite roost
#

like the black ships

knotty cove
#

would be a big hmm

final spruce
#

Well it's mroe like if people find Blanks

knotty cove
#

yeah

storm jungle
#

the Sisters also roll up on you with these:

finite roost
#

i am not informed that much when it comes to blanks

#

so i dunno

final spruce
#

Because blanks are not soemthing people know about so they tend to get murdered at birth etc

finite roost
#

yes

final spruce
#

Or have a shitty life in general

knotty cove
#

blanks:

barren tapir
#

In general blanks live solitary lifes

knotty cove
#

aggressively have no soul

final spruce
#

But if you are a blank at the Schola Progenium , well you're infor Culexus / SoS training

barren tapir
#

Away from others humans

finite roost
final spruce
#

I know

finite roost
knotty cove
#

tau have like

#

minisoul

cloud kindle
#

much better

finite roost
#

yes

cloud kindle
#

making daemon shit themselves

barren tapir
#

It wouldn't be surprising to find a frontier world where many blanks live together

storm jungle
#

before someone comes and raids it

#

because grimdank

cloud kindle
knotty cove
storm jungle
#

pariahs are so cool

knotty cove
#

im so pissed that they were deleted

storm jungle
#

cybrog-egyptian boyz

#

Same

knotty cove
#

its the only reason i play epic

storm jungle
#

all because of tabletop bullshit

final spruce
#

We haven't heard of Pariahs for more than 10 years now

knotty cove
#

so i can have pariahs

#

i dont give a fuck about the rest of it, i want my pariahs

final spruce
#

They aren't even mentionned by the necrons anymore

knotty cove
#

nope

final spruce
#

Also the Blank gene isn't necron anymore

knotty cove
#

):

final spruce
#

So yeah

storm jungle
#

Yeah i couldnt care either

#

pariahs are neat

barren tapir
#

Not really, take in consideration that one of the theories of the SoS creation is that they were a regiment of the imperial army that survived and defeated a chaos uprising/infection, then they world get erased by records and many of the populance get taken by th eimperium

final spruce
#

Stop pinging me pls

knotty cove
#

@final spruce perish

final spruce
#

Thats it no notifications anymore

knotty cove
#

damn

cloud kindle
#

but we love you

storm jungle
#

uwu ❤️

#

appease zhe moth

final spruce
#

By using "uwu" you are fedding my rage

knotty cove
#

uwu

final spruce
storm jungle
#

D I E

finite roost
#

you do not writhe it like that

#

this is how

storm jungle
#

nice

finite roost
#

nice indeed

final spruce
#

Wishing for my death only makes me stronger

finite roost
#

harness the power of the dark side

#

anger empowers you

final spruce
#

Shut up heretic

storm jungle
#

e v i l

final spruce
#

Recaf empowers me

knotty cove
cloud kindle
#

harness your hate

open marsh
#

uwu

finite roost
cloud kindle
#

it gives you strength

#

gives you focus

open marsh
#

There is no hate. Only uwu

rotund siren
knotty cove
#

uwu

final spruce
#

Alright, you won I'm out

cloud kindle
#

xenos, heretics same thing really

finite roost
#

nope

#

diffrent ordos in the inquistion

#

so i would say not

cloud kindle
#

yeah but working towards the same goal

#

purifying the galaxy

finite roost
#

nope, one is chaos which is a power of nature and other is another race

barren tapir
#

TBF xenos are also heretics as they defy the destiny of mankind to own the galaxy, so yes, xenos are heretics for the imperium

storm jungle
#

^

#

also xenos can worship chaos too

finite roost
#

well yes

#

but tau don't

cloud kindle
#

so thats double heresy

barren tapir
#

Tau are still heretics for the imperium

cloud kindle
#

tau can be corrupted though

#

its rare but it can happen

finite roost
#

i never heard of it

knotty cove
#

we're trying to uplift you lesser races

finite roost
knotty cove
#

xenophile fallen empire style

cloud kindle
#

you are alright trazyn

finite roost
#

necrons are just a bunch of old grumpy assholes

cloud kindle
#

believe it was in Farsight: Crisis of Faith

knotty cove
#

am not

finite roost
#

oh yeah

#

trazyn

#

is a jew

#

forgot

storm jungle
cloud kindle
#

where a water caste dude touches a gellar drive and gets possessed

open marsh
#

^

knotty cove
cloud kindle
#

also wat

storm jungle
#

Trazyn is a Juice

finite roost
final spruce
#

Trazyn keeps fucking things up

finite roost
#

well he tried to help cadia

storm jungle
#

Trazyn's sole aim is to just keep his museum intact iirc

#

and expand it

knotty cove
#

yup

#

which is the optimal goal

storm jungle
#

he actually wants to run TOURS

#

in the future

final spruce
#

Well if you ever read The Infinite and the Divine you'd know that Trazyn always keeps fucking things up

finite roost
cloud kindle
#

it worked till failbaddon had enough and threw a blackstone fortress at it

final spruce
#

You mean THE blackstone fortress ?

cloud kindle
#

theres another one

knotty cove
#

a blackstone fortress

#

theres multiple

storm jungle
#

theres like 8

finite roost
cloud kindle
#

dunno how many chaos has

storm jungle
#

i think 1-2

finite roost
cloud kindle
#

but i know of at least one with the red corsairs

storm jungle
#

one of them is in the hands of huron memeheart

knotty cove
#

chaos only has the 1 until gw needs to yeet another planet

storm jungle
#

YEP

knotty cove
#

then he yeeted it at cadia

final spruce
#

Well Blackstone Fortress are a rare and finite ressources

knotty cove
#

yes

storm jungle
#

some harlequins are trying to get the one the red corsairs has, back

finite roost
knotty cove
#

but abbadon ragequit

finite roost
#

ye

cloud kindle
#

he got stabbed by celestine and reeed

finite roost
#

he got kicked by an eldar farseer

cloud kindle
#

trayzn when you letting clone fulgrim out of the box

#

i want fulgrim vs fulgrim action

storm jungle
#

dont say it like that

#

👀

cloud kindle
finite roost
#

this gif is great

#

saving it

#

btw

#

when it comes to cloned primarchs

#

you know what exactly happened to the loyalist shard of magnus the red

#

?

#

cuz i think it is in kaldor draigo

cloud kindle
#

grey knight i believe

barren tapir
#

Nope, it was the first great grand master of the GK

final spruce
#

Nope it is in one of the Thousand Sons that currently is in the Grey Knights

cloud kindle
#

was put in a loyalist thousand son?

finite roost
#

i know it was in the first GM of the gey knights

#

but

barren tapir
#

That magnus shard became janus

finite roost
#

what happened after

#

did it just kinda leave

#

or got to another grand master

cloud kindle
#

and draigo will avenge janus

#

after he provides the hams of course

open marsh
finite roost
#

i know that

#

but

#

after that

#

did it kinda got to another GM of gey knights

#

or disappeard

#

cuz if it did merge with another GM

knotty cove
#

gey knights

storm jungle
finite roost
#

it would explain why Kaldor Draigo is so OP

rotund siren
#

Janus the two-faced roman god of doorways?

cloud kindle
#

remember when grey knights needed sororitas blood

storm jungle
#

WHAT

cloud kindle
#

good times

finite roost
rotund siren
#

The New Testament?

storm jungle
#

Daemon: JESUS H CHRIST!

Grey Knight Jesus: The H is silent.

finite roost
#

why did it make me laugh

storm jungle
#

its a django joke

#

and i stole it lol

barren tapir
rotund siren
#

;)

storm jungle
#

but seriously

#

doorways?

finite roost
#

dunno

rotund siren
#

yes

finite roost
#

probably a reference

#

to something i dunno about

open marsh
#

Anyway. Janus is loyalist Magnus and that makes him awesome

barren tapir
#

Yes, romans had a god for pretty much anything, they were extremely religious

finite roost
rotund siren
#

also Janus was kinda seen as a Big God, I guess because doors and doorways are everywhere

#

so they always mentioned him before doing any ceremony

open marsh
#

Janus and The Crimson King meet:

Janus: Well well well. If it isnt the consequences of my own actions!

rotund siren
#

I think he was also kinda sorta the god of change and time(?), but only a little

#

like change from one thing to another

open marsh
#

I think Janus is traveling the galaxy and the warp to collect shards of Magnus before the Crimson King can

finite roost
#

the one thing is, magnus probably only helped horus siege terra cuz he wanted to recover his noble shard to save himself from being a fuck-off demon

barren tapir
#

Magnus: you know GK, you remind me of someone
Janus: maybe of someone who would do take the right choice

finite roost
#

...

open marsh
#

Magnus: "You know, GK, you remind me of someone."

Janus: "He sounds like an asshole."

finite roost
#

"... intensifes"

open marsh
#

I really want a Janus vs Crimson King duel

finite roost
#

it would be interesting ngl

#

i would want to see that

storm jungle
#

considering magnus' history fighting people in the lore im sure we know who'd win lol

open marsh
#

Janus is magnus tho

storm jungle
#

Exactly

finite roost
#

they both win and fail at the same time

barren tapir
#

I think it would be the first time he win then

finite roost
#

probably

knotty cove
#

they both lose

#

trazyn steals them both

storm jungle
#

^

#

the best part is that could actually happen lol

knotty cove
#

yup

open marsh
#

Janus is Magnus's redemption arch

knotty cove
#

(i am not trazyn)

#

(i am trayzn)

finite roost
#

you are not trazyn the infinite

knotty cove
#

indeed

finite roost
#

you are trazyn the lare-but-finite

#

almost as good

#

i need your help

#

since you are good at stealing stuff

knotty cove
#

mayb

finite roost
#

i want you to steal the release date of Darktide from fatshark

knotty cove
#

done

finite roost
#

what is it then, or are you going to just keep it in your collection

#

?

knotty cove
#

im keeping it in my collection

final spruce
#

Only the Infinite could steal that one

finite roost
#

sadge

final spruce
#

You're a liar

knotty cove
#

that is what someone who is neither infinite nor large-but-finite would say

finite roost
storm jungle
#

Not the meme channel but

#

I love Trazyn so much

finite roost
#

trazyn is the best charachter necrons have

open marsh
#

He stole GorkaMorka

knotty cove
#

god

#

i want to reread that now

storm jungle
#

I like how

#

the book is so memey

#

yet when you look at it from the side of the characters that oppose them its scary as shit lol

open marsh
#

Yep

finite roost
#

i never read that book

#

so i think

#

i should

storm jungle
#

Absolutely recommend it

finite roost
#

actualy

storm jungle
#

its really recent and fun

finite roost
#

i do not realy keep that much track of warhammer novels

#

what is it's name

#

cuz i cannot remember

final spruce
#

The Infinite and the Divine

open marsh
#

in what feels like a few weeks

storm jungle
#

By a prank

finite roost
#

god i am an assclown

final spruce
#

Atleast you're not a vindicare believer

open marsh
final spruce
#

yeah let me unleash this genestealer to jokingly kill you

#

Oops, it started a cult !

open marsh
#

Trayzen admitted he knew that genestealer wouldnt kill him. Or, as he put it "I would have made sure by using more than one"

#

And he admitted he had no idea they started the whole cult thing

storm jungle
#

Literally

#

just an "Oops." situation

finite roost
#

whelp

knotty cove
storm jungle
#

Megan

finite roost
#

trazyn is a mine for jokes

storm jungle
#

His personality helps a lot lol

open marsh
#

RIP the Church of Trayzn

storm jungle
#

LOL

#

that stained glass was a piece of art

final spruce
#

I mean atleast Trazyn was decent to his librarian slave

knotty cove
#

you mean the fucking statue?

#

lmao

open marsh
#

Helps show that the average Imperial Cititzen has 0 idea what Astartes actually look like

#

They saw the necrons, who are metallic skeletons, and thought they were the "Silver Skulls" chapter. Because they saved the colony, so they must be Astartes, right?

knotty cove
#

infinite and the divine sort of has the same effect if the emperor had a text to speech device does
its memey af when you just read/watch it but when you actually pay attention to smaller details shit starts coming together and you get a really good idea of what's going on in-universe, there's a ton of small shit you can miss super easily

cerulean wagon
#

im ngl i tend to stear clear of the memey shit

#

its kinda funny but people start going "but this is how everything is right"

storm jungle
#

Nah the book is different

#

like i said above the stuff the necrons do can be seen as funny to them but in context its pretty evil shit

knotty cove
#

absolutely

#

but im a necron player

#

so its good to me o:

storm jungle
#

damn it

knotty cove
#

back into the cage now, primitive

storm jungle
#

but dont worry skelly the book isnt TTS levels of memey, it has good stuff in it

knotty cove
#

^

final spruce
#

The book is nice yes

#

I like the moment where they speak about if they actually want to get their soul back

finite roost
#

they want to get their soul back

#

but they won't

final spruce
#

Trazyn is like "I miss my body" And Orikan is like "Bruh you seem to have forgot how you feared losing your mind and how decrepit you were back in the days"

storm jungle
#

^

#

It has surprisingly philosophical sections

finite roost
#

mind is apparently more important then flesh, an example is destryer cult and the flayed ones

final spruce
#

This is why the Necron nobles fear them so much

primal tide
#

Disregard body, acquire m i n d

final spruce
#

Because it shows that meanwhile necrons do not suffer the issues linked to an old body, their mind isn't safe either

finite roost
#

there is only one way an ilness can get to a necron

#

and it is mind

#

the only thing left

#

from flesh

storm jungle
#

You havent even read the book and know this perfectly, kudos

#

one of the things the book actually taps on is that the passage of time can cause most necrons to go mad

finite roost
#

i know some things

storm jungle
#

hence why trazyn is doing things

knotty cove
#

My favorite part of the book is

#

Orikan: "I've had this nightmare before."

storm jungle
#

Context: Trazyn multiplying himself

#

lol

knotty cove
#

damn

#

you really do be spoiling it

#

D:

finite roost
#

you know, ima actualy leave the conversation now cuz i don't want to spoil the book for me

storm jungle
#

YEP

finite roost
#

so cya

final spruce
#

That's a capital offense Dilara

storm jungle
#

👋

final spruce
#

I'm afraid I have to blam you on the spot

storm jungle
#

nuuu

knotty cove
#

🔫

final spruce
storm jungle
final spruce
#

Shit Dilara was an eldar all along

primal tide
#

Let us all say the rite of spoiler text

final spruce
#

We found the impostor

primal tide
#

vertical line vertical line

open marsh
#

My favorite part of tIatD is when Orikan points out that Trayzn is such a klepto that Orikan would have the servants count the dinnerware after inviting Trayzn over for dinner

knotty cove
#

ah yes

#

necron monchies

open marsh
#

It was before they got robotted

storm jungle
#

wow

#

I forgot that part holy shit lol

#

hes the absolute worst

open marsh
#

Everyone thought he does his whole collection thing because he is a bored immortal robot.

Nope.

He just liked to steal shit and always has

#

They made Trazyn being a klepto into canon

primal tide
#

He's living his best life

#

Love his character

crisp heath
crisp heath
#

necrons are cyborgs

#

so is the admech

#

many imperial citizens

#

dreadnoughts and wraith knights too

open marsh
# crisp heath necrons are cyborgs

They are robots. They have no organic bits left. Tho they have a small shard of their soul left in their robotic bodies. Even the lowest ranks. Even if it only the tiniest shard

crisp heath
#

if the mind comes from something organic it's a cyborg, a cyborg can have an artificial brain but was originally biological

rotund siren
#

really? that's funky

#

does that mean that if you copied a mind into a computer, then moved that mind from the computer into a robot body, it would still be a cyborg, despite having been technically created by a computer?

plush mason
crisp heath
#

android has AI

visual pumice
#

androids are robots with human appearance according to google

rotund siren
#

yeah

crisp heath
#

the mind is not an artificially created program

rotund siren
#

interesting

plush mason
rotund siren
#

I guess then it's like a cousin to the classic Ship of Theseus.

crisp heath
#

yeah

#

as i understand it an android doesn't have a "natural" human originated consciousness but an artificial one

plush mason
#

sometimes they do sometimes they dont

crisp heath
#

so if your body is fully robotic but you underwent a consciousness transfer you're not an android

#

but a cyborg

rotund siren
#

when is it a robot? if the artificial mind is not a robot since it was copied from a human brain, then what if a computer simulated a theoretical human mind that thought itself human? would it be a cyborg? or a robot?

visual pumice
#

the terms have always been too interchangeable in media

plush mason
#

afaik a cyborg HAS to have organic body parts

visual pumice
#

robots can't think for themselves i think

crisp heath
#

well a robot can have AI

rotund siren
#

I suppose, but what would you call an artificial intelligence within a mechanical shell?

visual pumice
#

brain hurts

crisp heath
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android or robot

rotund siren
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yep

plush mason
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the word robot comes from the word robota means slave so

crisp heath
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well, robota means work

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so work-machine

rotund siren
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I guess things are heating up in the transhumanist fandom

plush mason
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work/indentured servant iirc

crisp heath
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it originated in a play where robots were first made as machines to make work easier for humans and then took over

rotund siren
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ah, classic "new thing bad"

plush mason
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the idea of a robotic work force was first perposed in the 1600s

rotund siren
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wow

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I wonder how many jobs are fully automated

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I'm pretty sure that car lines are

crisp heath
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yes but the word itself originated in Capek's play

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/R.U.R.

R.U.R.

R.U.R. is a 1920 science fiction play by the Czech writer Karel Čapek. R.U.R. stands for Rossumovi Univerzální Roboti (Rossum's Universal Robots). The English phrase "Rossum's Universal Robots" has been used as a subtitle. It premiered on 25 January 1921 and introduced the word "robot" to the English language and to science fiction as a whole.R....

plush mason
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a lot of the maurfacoring jobs are

crisp heath
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a lot of manufacturing jobs is fully automated but requires an overseer and repair force

plush mason
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as robots are able to make things the exact same every time unlike humans their first real jobs where ofc making mas produced things

crisp heath
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like, the guy who kicks into the machine powering the work line in a car factory when it stops lol

plush mason
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they plan to fully automate the work force in the next few decades

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atleast here in america they do

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msotly becuz america is facing an under population problem in the next few decades

crisp heath
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brainless jobs are becoming scarcer in the first world yes

plush mason
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iirc in like 30 years from now america will have like half the human work force it does now

crisp heath
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on one hand i'd say it's a good thing but i fear the masses of unemployed ppl it will create

plush mason
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what with our birth rate dropping and the rest of the pop getting older

plush mason
crisp heath
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hmm

rotund siren
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hmm

crisp heath
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but not everyone is suited to do jobs that require human input lbr

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not everyone is smart enough to...

plush mason
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this is true

rotund siren
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or don't have enough money to get training to do more complex jobs

crisp heath
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and jobs like mechanics are becoming more complicated actually

plush mason
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but america's pop is declining so we dont know how many people there will be in the country by this time

crisp heath
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where you don't necessarily require official education like eg medicine or engineering

rotund siren
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that's true

crisp heath
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when i see the smoothbrain masses of show and movie writers and directors nowadays i want to rip my brain out of my skull through the nose

rotund siren
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that is pretty sad