next youll complain about ig using the lasgun too much
#40k-lore-chat
cerulean wagon
open marsh
Another chance to make an interesting and unique regiment. Maybe with caliban pattern power armour. BUT NO LETS JUST USE MORE CADIANS
final spruce
Because those aren't cadians ?
cerulean wagon
"theres too many lasgyns wheres my guard all using unique ion rifles"
open marsh
Because those aren't cadians ?
Might as well be
final spruce
But people buying the most common flak armor pattern isn't ?
open marsh
But people buying the most common flak armor pattern isn't ?
If the PDF (or maybe DA chapter serfs) took all the armour
I could tolerate it
cerulean wagon
but if they wear the same uniform they must be the dame people zher
open marsh
Still a missed oppertunity, but tolerable
cerulean wagon
theres no possible way the most common armour in the galaxy is common to access
final spruce
Exactly Skelly, its even the same color
Not even during the most industry based setting that is 40k
cerulean wagon
idk how this is an issue but allspace marines bar a few using the same pattern power armour isnt
final spruce
I'd say next time we do catachans but with BLUE pants
open marsh
Its still a miss oppertunity. Again the Imperial Army/Guard is supposed to be the most varied in terms of appearance. and I'd imagine that regiments pulled from an astartes homeworld. A world known for basically being the Legend of King Arthur (but with power armour and proto-bolt guns), would have an interesting looking regiment
final spruce
That'd make for a compelling and new regiment
cerulean wagon
its standard for a reason
final spruce
So copying the ventrillian look you mean ?
open marsh
its standard for a reason
Then have the Death Korp of Krieg use it
Have the Armageddon Steel legion use it
final spruce
Why woudl they ? Its not adapted to Krieg envrionment
open marsh
Why woudl they ? Its not adapted to Krieg envrionment
Its the most common and a standard pattern, obviously. Thats the answer to everything
final spruce
And they already recycle the equipment
cerulean wagon
kreig and SL have localised forge worlds just for their equipment
final spruce
I guess the quartermasters are useless
cerulean wagon
hense they can keep their traditional stuff
open marsh
kreig and SL have localised forge worlds just for their equipment
So? Cadian pattern is the common and standard pattern. they should just use that
cerulean wagon
id be happy with that
especially getting rid of dkok tbh
yeet that cesspit of memes
final spruce
As long as they keep the gasmasks, if it allows us to have palstic kriegs
final spruce
Squat already wore flak armour Medic
I'm sure it was just cadian pattern flak armour but children sized
open marsh
I do want more art of Caliban power armour tho
open marsh
My current head canon is that it is still used by DA (and Successor) chapter serfs. By their elite fighters.
open marsh
just give SM cadian armour
Marines should be squatted for more Cadians
Astartes in Cadian armour and uniforms
cerulean wagon
orks? looted cadiab flak
open marsh
But really tho. there are ways to make even Cadian-style armour look interesting. Look at the Severan Dominate. They took the Cadian stuff and make it look roman AF
I really do think, when making the Caliban Jaegars card, they just went on deviant art and found a rando Cadian IG pic and slapped Caliban Jaegar on it
Woad Warriors are the most superior IG tho
Also, they should. Its the same pattern we saw in HH Book 6
vast frigate
Ah good
open marsh
Also:
The variety that used to be shown in Ig regiments
This guy has BONE ARMOUR come on that is awesome AF
There is a whole regiment of furries
One that rides Dinosaurs as mounts (also are abhumans)
barren tapir
This is the description of the caliban jaegers uniform:
Dark green uniforms and full Carapace Armour
crisp heath
YOO thats cool 😮
barren tapir
So that card image may not be completely wrong... And it looks like the pattern used by cadians was present even before cadia was settled by the imperium... It is also true that many regiments may have unique appearance, but for that they need to have developed a warrior society with its equipment beforehand, otherwise they would still go with the most common pattern in the imperium
Like, the last 5 images are all from planets with warrior societies
open marsh
So that card image may not be completely wrong... And it looks like the pattern ...
Caliban had a warrior society
barren tapir
And if not a warrior society then there need to be something particular about the world, like harakon or elysia
open marsh
The various knightly orders
barren tapir
Caliban had a warrior society
Yes, and we know that they wore full carapace armour for that
Also while caliban was indeed a warrior society it was centered about those elite orders
open marsh
Yes, and we know that they wore full carapace armour for that
The knights wore power armour
barren tapir
The knights wore power armour
On many world during the age of strife technobarbarians used semi, or fully powered armour, it wasn't invented by the emperor
open marsh
And even if lesser warriors wore carapace armour, they would have modeled it after the knights armour
barren tapir
And even if lesser warriors wore carapace armour, they would have modeled it aft...
Unless that was something the orders didn't want as would make them less unique and elite
open marsh
Ah. So they just so happened to model their carapace armour after the cadian pattern. totally independantly
barren tapir
You reasoning is right, but it doesn't take in account the POV of an elite which control the society
final spruce
The famous cadian pattern yes
barren tapir
Ah. So they just so happened to model their carapace armour after the cadian pat...
If we go by the history of the imperium cadia wasn't even settled when that armour got developed
open marsh
The famous cadian pattern yes
So famous they knew about it before reuniting with the Imperium
final spruce
Because it was produced before ?
barren tapir
Lol, i agree that it is bad that the uniqueness of the IG isn't expanded as much we all would like by GW, but shitting on cadians will not change anything
open marsh
And this is all redundant. The point is, it is another massively missed oppertunity to make an interesting an unique regiment. Instead just making the copy/paste cadians
barren tapir
Also the cards that show some of that caliban power armour is really similar to a carapace armour, does that mean that we now have a cadian pattern power armor?
final spruce
Wait, I thought the average power armor was Ultramarine pattern ?
Was I lied all along ?
barren tapir
And this is all redundant. The point is, it is *another* massively missed oppert...
On this i can fully agree, although we must still take in consideration that their armour is just a carapace armour
For sure there are a lot of other possibilities where GW could really do something amazing regarding armour appearance, and if not them then some writer
final spruce
You mean GW deleting some other regiment minis from their shop ?
open marsh
Like if all of the regiment was basically on Kasrkin level, with their officers being knights in power armour. I could roll with that
Even if they still used regular lasguns instead of something nicer
final spruce
I mean, kaskrin use carapace armor ?
open marsh
Thats the point Im making
And still they could have atleast better styled the armour
Put some wings on the helmet or something
Make it look like they are from Caliban and not "rando nothing jackass army #45676"
barren tapir
We should also remember that many, if not all, of the orders members got into the dark angels SM legion, so they may have been indeed random people drafted to be sent as imperial army contingent along the DA in the great endeavour (i'm refusing to call it crusade)
open marsh
This is why the Ultramar Auxilia are still one of the top regiments. They atleast follow the theme of the Astartes legion they follow
open marsh
We should also remember that many, if not all, of the orders members got into th...
Not all of them. The two I posted above. Lord Malchiel and Master Ramiel didnt
barren tapir
What i found interesting is that their name is jaegers, german, but DA should be all about arthurian legends
open marsh
What i found interesting is that their name is jaegers, german, but DA should be...
inb4 Caliban are now Nazis, because german word. Like what dipshits do to the Kriegers
final spruce
Ah yes, GW employees telling people the ones that buy Kriegs tend to be facists
barren tapir
Lol, no, not that, it is just interesting to me, as the british indeed used many german mercs during their wars, especially jagers from hessen IIRC
open marsh
Ah yes, GW employees telling people the ones that buy Kriegs tend to be facists
We just had a convo the other day on this very server where someone was going on and on about how the Kriegers are nazis because they have skulls on their uniform
open marsh
Lol, no, not that, it is just interesting to me, as the british indeed used many...
I was making a joke
final spruce
I missed that part
barren tapir
I missed that guy too, good laugh missed
final spruce
I was mentionning how someone here went to GW to buy kiregs and the employee told him kriegs tend to attract facists
open marsh
Id call it more of a migraine
final spruce
But yeah, its not like THE ENTIRE IMPERIUM uses skulls
Now you know how I feel everytime you mention the inexistant cadian pattern armor
barren tapir
Nah, oh, have you seen that flying skull over there? Or those skull over everything?
open marsh
Finally got him to give it up after a detailed breakdown of where every piece of their uniform comes from:
WWI French trench coats
WWI German helmets
WWI American/British gas masks.
And the skull on their collar is just a generic skull, not the Deathshead nazi emblem
final spruce
Well yeah, you littteraly have tutorials online using WW1 german and grognards parts for cheaper kriegs
open marsh
But the joke is now that if a regiment has a german name, they must be Nazis, because german word = Nazi, rite?!
open marsh
Nah, oh, have you seen that flying skull over there? Or those skull over everyth...
Yup
open marsh
lol
Also, if you were to ask me what a Caliban IA regiment should look like, Id think more of the Indigan Praefects
quiet pier
calibanites would look like the praefects mixed with solaris auxilia
crisp heath
Finally got him to give it up after a detailed breakdown of where every piece of...
the totenkopf isn't even originally a nazi symbol, imperial hussars used it first
barren tapir
Yup, like the iron cross too...
crisp heath
and not in that stupid pansy small manner too
the leib-husaren nr. 1 regiment had it fuckoff big on the busby
reject modernity
embrace tradition
reject ww2 wank
embrace glorious 19th century theatrical uniforms
if it doesnt have an insane length of like red or silver or golden piping, some illogical ornament on top of the head, 50 dangles and dongles and an egregious amount of buttons it's not fun enough
storm jungle
👀
barren tapir
https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/40k/images/d/d4/Terrax_guard.png/revision/latest?cb=20130105011153
The terrax guard is really nice in appearance too
open marsh
Idk whats going on with these guys, but I like it
atomic pelican
Looks like the Nutcracker
barren tapir
Wait... Isn't the lucky 13 a cadian regiment?
open marsh
There is a "Lucky 13th", a unit in the Mordant Acid Dogs
barren tapir
It looks like i was wrong, but i remember one cadian regiment reformed by creed
barren tapir
No, i don't think so at least, it was one regiment that creed reformed after he heard some psykers saying it would be useful in the 13th black crusade, maybe it is old lore already retconnected too
wintry escarp
Honestly I just wanna see a Harakoni Hellhawk or an Elysium Droptrooper career
Imagine being able to use your jetpack to either barge through a horde or do an airborne assault smash
open marsh
They don't have jetpacks
They have grav-chutes
They packs cannot propel the wearer. They only slow a descent. Like a super high tech parachute
primal tide
Grimdark featherfall
thick shadow
I want they change the lore of grav-chute to a anti-gravity jumpack
open marsh
And still only enough to control a fall
open marsh
Here's your ult, you steal the weapons and armor from every enemy
weird way to spell "everyone".
rotund siren
of course, my mistake
thick shadow
Oh, I wonder what is this, and I know it know
atomic pelican
I think that's a craftworld model
thick shadow
That's grave-chute for primaris
open marsh
I found some really good fanart of a Caliban Knight. Imagine Chapter serfs equipped like this and going on hunts through the depths of DA ships. Hunting mutants and xenos that may hide within. Emulating the hunts of the Knights of the Order in ancient times ❤️
rotund siren
Woah
thick shadow
anyway, grav-jump-pack, when?
final spruce
Aren't serfs like off-combat and badly viewed people ?
open marsh
Woah
Yeah, normally Im not big on fanart. But this is extremely lore accurate (if this image takes place sometime after Caliban was united with the Imperium)
final spruce
I know SM look at them with disdain and they work as caretakers for them
crisp heath
Aren't serfs like off-combat and badly viewed people ?
they're off combat but idk if badly viewed?
i mean
crisp heath
someone has to do the menial jobs
open marsh
Aren't serfs like off-combat and badly viewed people ?
Not always. chapters still maintain warrior / combat serfs. And many are honoured. Often times, combat serfs are failed Aspirants who still proved to be of some measure of worth. Like an Aspirant who had all the makings of an Astartes, but turns out they were genetically incompatible
rotund siren
yeah, exactly
crisp heath
someone always has to do the menial jobs
atomic pelican
Yee I think it depends on the chapter?
But generally speaking SM's see themselves as aboev normal humies iirc
above*
final spruce
The lexicanum mentions serfs being mostly given caretaker tasks and space marines looking at them badly because they failed the initiation
open marsh
@final spruce The Imperial Fists has the Auric Auxilia, who (until the fall of Cadia) was made up exclusively of failed Aspirants
the Space Wolves have the Aettguard, who are combat serfs that propect their fortress monestary on Fenris
final spruce
Do other chapters do that aswell ?
storm jungle
But generally speaking SM's see themselves as aboev normal humies iirc
they call humans "mortals", what a bunch of gits
you can die from being shot in the face too buddy
rotund siren
yeah
atomic pelican
Owned
storm jungle
LOL
open marsh
you can die from being shot in the face too buddy
I want a story where a space marine gets uppity like that and some rando does shoot them, and then says that line
rotund siren
and then the rando has to run as the Inquisition and every marine chapter comes after them
storm jungle
I'd pay for that
rotund siren
Oooh, like Jason Bourne
atomic pelican
The Chad Pulse Gun vs the Virgin Spesh Mahren armor
plucky moth
I found some *really* good fanart of a Caliban Knight. Imagine Chapter serfs equ...
woah that looks fuckin awesome
open marsh
woah that looks fuckin awesome
Yeah, and the armour is accurately made.
plucky moth
rotund siren
Yeehaw, good fellows!
open marsh
barren tapir
How chapter serf are treated change from chapter to chapter, some view them badly other consider them equal and so on... Thinking that all SM view serf as inferior, or thinking that all SM view normal humans as inferior is a meme like the lasgun is flashlight
atomic pelican
Yee there are totally Chad Marines, like the salamanders
It also really depends on the individual I imagine
probably moreso than the chapter as a whole
final spruce
The treatment of Serfs varies from chapter to chapter. While many have privileged and honors roles such as in the Space Wolves and Imperial Fists successors such as the Excoriators, in chapters such as the Carcharodons they are regarded as slaves beneath the notice of most members of the Chapter. Even before their fall to Chaos the Iron Warriors regarded Serfs as little more than replaceable fodder.In the Salamanders Serfs often form genuine bonds of friendship and camaraderie with their masters
Some Clans such as the Iron Hands Clan Borrgos do not operate Serfs at all, and instead rely entirely on Servitors while Clan Garrsak has tens of thousands of serfs alone.
barren tapir
But generally speaking SM's see themselves as aboev normal humies iirc
This is also plain wrong
final spruce
What Lexi says
barren tapir
Not all
open marsh
How chapter serf are treated change from chapter to chapter, some view them badl...
Yeah, DA are one the "mortals are beneath us" side of things, but there are limits to that. Like when the DA were first recruiting from Caliban, knights who couldnt be accepted into the DA (too old or not compatible) were allowed to return to the Knights of the Order
atomic pelican
Isn't that like, one of the best causes of the Chaos Spash Mahrens? Seeing themselves as not having fulfilled their potential above regular humies?
open marsh
Isn't that like, one of the best causes of the Chaos Spash Mahrens? Seeing thems...
yep
odd sparrow
I imagine SM's stance on other humans depends on the chapter, individual and author lol. But notably the whole why the fuck are WE taking orders from regular ass humans thing was at the very least a big thing for the primarchs
odd sparrow
with malcador bitch slapping most of them with know your place primarch
oh heck that was for a pun one sec
barren tapir
Yeah, DA are one the "mortals are beneath us" side of things, but there are limi...
DA are still elitist like they were when part of the orders on caliban so yes, they still view them maybe not superior, but for sure of higher level
atomic pelican
FHFN
odd sparrow
there we go
storm jungle
Dark Angels are just basement dwellers in marine form tbh
COME OUT OF THE CLOSET ALREADY YOU COWARDS
final spruce
Just look at how the DA handle their primaris
rotund siren
**COME OUT OF THE CLOSET ALREADY YOU COWARDS**
egg
barren tapir
Isn't that like, one of the best causes of the Chaos Spash Mahrens? Seeing thems...
Yes, but also many SM view themslef as guardians and protectors, and they accept their role in the imperium
final spruce
Atleast how they handled the Vanguard
odd sparrow
Superior means a higher level. Like, I don't think there's that much precedent for SM being all astartes supremacist but can u really blame them for being all yea but i'm literally the descendent of our god. i'm better than u in every way. how can i not be a lil bit superior
open marsh
DA are still elitist like they were when part of the orders on caliban so yes, t...
Hence why I could see them having created knightly orders within their warrior serfs. Emulating the Knights of the Order (or other knightly orders of Caliban). Allowing these "lesser knights" the use of the power armour once used by the Order, since that armour is lesser than Astartes power armour (its mentioned in one of the DA books that Astartes armour, even MkII, was superior to the Order's power armour in every way)
storm jungle
Superior means a higher level. Like, I don't think there's that much precedent f...
I can only see one assholes that would do that
storm jungle
Superior means a higher level. Like, I don't think there's that much precedent f...
Which is the Marines Malevolent lol
tall fjord
you beat me to it
storm jungle
hehehehe
tall fjord
i was going to be all "we have a word for assholes, we call them, the ultramarines"
odd sparrow
it doesn't mean they're out here treating other humans like subhumans, unless they're uh a few suspect chapters like dilara said lol
tall fjord
even the DARK ANGELS are all "oh god, the smurfs are here....don't look at them, i don't wanna talk toAAAAAND they saw us"
storm jungle
aka knowing they're superior warriors and anyone else below them is basically a menial by comparison
open marsh
Which is the Marines Malevolent lol
The MM's respect strength tho. One respected a medicae who shot him with a laspsitol. didnt do anything. But the sheer tits it took for her to do that gained his respect (before he was about to kill her for the insult)
barren tapir
Hence why I could see them having created knightly orders within their warrior s...
I would see them seeing themself as the knights and the serf as the people they once protect on caliban, so it would make sense that they will not make lesser orders
tall fjord
"do the dark edgy thing maybe they'll go away"
odd sparrow
aka knowing they're superior warriors and anyone else below them is basically a ...
THE KNIGHTS OF BRETONNIA WILL BE UR SHIELD
KNOW UR PLACE PEASANT
storm jungle
open marsh
I would see them seeing themself as the knights and the serf as the people they ...
Except that even after the DA came to caliban, the knightly orders remained
storm jungle
The MM's respect strength tho. One respected a medicae who shot him with a lasps...
Also so does any other chapter
so thats not saying much for those dickheads
YEET
tall fjord
i dunno i mean
barren tapir
Except that even after the DA came to caliban, the knightly orders remained
Well, there was mostly only one, that that would became the DA, the order of the lion
open marsh
Also so does any other chapter
Idk too many chapters who were like "Damn girl. That was badass. Good job. Im still gonna murder you for attacking me. But good job."
tall fjord
every chapter is different in terms of personality, even then theres members of given chapters who are just outliers
besides, it could be worse
barren tapir
I mean, MM managed to anger the salamanders, the most wholesome chapter there is
They are indeed assholes
open marsh
I mean, MM managed to anger the salamanders, the most wholesome chapter there is
Thats not hard. the Salamanders are too good for this sinful galaxy
tall fjord
you could be getting reinforced, by the LAMENTERS, horrifying shit just begins happening all around the planet you are on
storm jungle
nooooo
tall fjord
i imagine chaos just, leaves because they don't want that level of bad luck to get on THEM
even the IMPERIAL GUARD pities the lamenters
"we thought WE had it bad"
open marsh
The Salamanders and the Black Templars also managed to piss each other off in that same war, with the Black templars kicking them out of the city they were helping defend
storm jungle
someone help them!
primal tide
"Oh no the lamenters are here to help, we are fucked now"
odd sparrow
poor lamenters
barren tapir
The Salamanders and the Black Templars also managed to piss each other off in th...
Yeah, but that wasn't anger, that was different tactical approach and priorities
odd sparrow
i would say i wanna hug them but i wouldn't go on the same planet as them tbh
primal tide
E-hugs for the lamenters
open marsh
Yeah, but that wasn't anger, that was different tactical approach and priorities
No. Grimaldus was pissed
tall fjord
"the moment the commissar got a look at their service record he threw away his laspistol, decided to become a baker, he just felt too bad to blam us anymore"
open marsh
Also the MMs arent the biggest assholes of the Astartes. That honour goes to the Steel Confessors
tall fjord
NO WAIT, it occurs to me
lamenters would be the ONE chapter of marines that would be balanced to add to darktide
storm jungle
lamenters would be the ONE chapter of marines that would be balanced to add to d...
👀
atomic pelican
Are Spesh men infectable by the GSC virus/are there any instances of a GSC getting genetic code from a chapter or smthing
tall fjord
because horrible shit will just, keep happening to them on SUCH a scale, that it balances out
barren tapir
No. Grimaldus was *pissed*
Yeah, because the salamanders instead of following him and his happy fellows keep defending a civilian shelter
storm jungle
Are Spesh men infectable by the GSC virus/are there any instances of a GSC getti...
oh god
one chapter actually almost comes close to that
atomic pelican
Ooo?
storm jungle
and they barely notice before its too late
tall fjord
lets be honest, some chapters are SUPER freaky and would totes be down for that
primal tide
PRAISE TO THE FOUR ARMED EMPORER
atomic pelican
PRAISE!
tall fjord
"i replaced our predators with carnifexes, we ride them around now"
"isn't this technically heresy?"
odd sparrow
tbh i'm pretty sure every faction has some degree of genestealer infiltration at this point
tall fjord
"naww we feed orks to them"
barren tapir
SM biology is incompatible with GSC
odd sparrow
deldar have it, tau have it
open marsh
Yeah, because the salamanders instead of following him and his happy fellows kee...
Which made it where they didnt have the firepower needed to kill an ork warboss who would come back and continue to cause casualities when they could have ended it right there.
Grimaldus was pissed
primal tide
SM biology is incompatible with GSC
Ah yes, same as with boobs too
odd sparrow
don't u dare
atomic pelican
I feel like GSC's could just convert it, considering how adaptable nid bio is
odd sparrow
we don't need that discussion
primal tide
Oh I went there
primal tide
No
odd sparrow
bitch
primal tide
Turd
tall fjord
i mean, you may say that, but i seem to remember the other day you got more than a little 'hot' for the tau
these two channels were DECIDEDLY nsfw
storm jungle
I remember going to the GW site where it shows every territory the factions have
odd sparrow
and yea idk just nids are literally incapable of translating SM biology seems lazy to me
tall fjord
thats not even when we discussed khaines booty or.......feet pics
odd sparrow
lmao yep
final spruce
Well there are been accounts of SM being infected by GSC but they have the mindpower to fight the mindcontrol
atomic pelican
YEAH
odd sparrow
they're literally everywhere
final spruce
They could also get carnifex'ed
storm jungle
HOW MANY FUCKING CULTS DO THEY FUCKING HAVE
primal tide
Yes
odd sparrow
basically infinite
barren tapir
Well there are been accounts of SM being infected by GSC but they have the mindp...
Wut?
primal tide
The number is yes
tall fjord
on paper nids have as many cults as chaos do, in practice they get a TINY fraction of the representation chaos does so in reality not very many at all
odd sparrow
one space bug on one cargo ship docks into a hive world and congrats
final spruce
Lemme find the excerp on reddit
tall fjord
that's not even getting into the whole, chaos vs GSC battle where they have to fight for dominance over which one gets to take over the planet
odd sparrow
u are stuck with four armed pricks for the next few millennia until ur planet gets eaten by their angry stepfathers
barren tapir
one space bug on one cargo ship docks into a hive world and congrats
We also have different cults on the same planet too, terra included
odd sparrow
oh yeah they don't get tired of writing in chaos/genstealer cults on terra
tall fjord
can you imagine that conversation? "steve just grew four tentacle arms, do these look like CHAOS tentacles here, or tyranid tentacles?"
odd sparrow
there has to be over a dozen of them both at this point
primal tide
TFW you don't have a massive hive mind acting like you a snacc
odd sparrow
huh i'm pretty sure this one is nid and these three are chaos
tall fjord
"shit they both look kinda similar"
odd sparrow
not gonna contemplate the implications of that
odd sparrow
"I diagnose you with flamer"
tall fjord
"......that doesn't prove shit actually since we were doing that to start with"
barren tapir
I still chuckle when thinking of the custodes storming GSC lair, and then prohibiting everyone from entering it, even the inquisition
storm jungle
odd sparrow
it is cult time my dudes
storm jungle
primal tide
Hongry
tall fjord
the circle jerk over who gets to be in charge is always some weird ass shit these days
atomic pelican
going to see my patriarch bf for PREMIUM kisses <3
storm jungle
whos idea was it to cut half the map in the website idk
final spruce
The love of 40k maps ensues
barren tapir
Those are the major cults
tall fjord
the inquisition doesn't have authority over the space marines but they do but they also dont but they do, and then they try that shit with the custodes or the dark angels and it's all "lolno"
odd sparrow
going to see my patriarch bf for PREMIUM kisses <3
this is some advanced monsterfucking
atomic pelican
;3
tall fjord
"oh god it was tragic, the inquisitor and his entire retinue were killed before we even arrived"
odd sparrow
literally, depending on their hive fleet
atomic pelican
you cant stop me and my kelermorph cowboy bf
final spruce
I believe inquisitors actually have authority to them
tall fjord
"you dark angels ALWAYS seem to arrive just AFTER the inquisitor was killed"
odd sparrow
... okay i can't knock you for that in particular
tall fjord
"bad luck i guess"
odd sparrow
yeehaw
atomic pelican
FHJNF
rotund siren
"bad luck i guess"
Dark Angel: Oh my god, that's awful! Where?
storm jungle
Hmmmm geeeeeeeeeeneeeeeeeeeees
crisp heath
"steve do you have an irresistable urge to consume dead loyalists?"
blood angels successors say: what are you implicating?
tall fjord
the wolves are another thing entirely because they literally told most of the imperium they were going to do their own thing
atomic pelican
Hmmmm **geeeeeeeeeeneeeeeeeeeees**
gimm thos genes
I eat those genes, jon
It's what I do
barren tapir
Indeed, formally inquisition have authority over them, maybe only the initial legion-chapters are exempt, but SM are don't like outsider sticking their nose in their affairs
atomic pelican
I'm a patriarch who likes to snooze
odd sparrow
genes uwu
tall fjord
Rowboat Girlyman - here's the rules for the imperium, EVERYONE is doing it this way now, no exceptions
storm jungle
tall fjord
Leman Russ - TROLOLO! get rekt scrub, fuck off with that shit
odd sparrow
blood angels successors say: what are you implicating?
blood angels can consume me any day
atomic pelican
vampire horny!
storm jungle
blood angels can consume me any day
mood
crisp heath
https://i.redd.it/ucrws0cvhcl21.png
now just in: Levi's factory ransacked, massive stocks stolen
atomic pelican
cease!
rotund siren
I'm a patriarch who likes to snooze
You have kids?
atomic pelican
many thousands
rotund siren
huh
storm jungle
odd sparrow
do u even know what a daemon is
dO THEY STEAL JE AN S
yerr gonna die
barren tapir
But inquisitors haven't any authority on custodes and sisters of silence
rotund siren
actually why are they even called "genestealers"
They don't even steal genes
they just convert them
storm jungle
actually why are they even called "genestealers"
because genes are in the human body
close enough
primal tide
They GIVE genes
storm jungle
for GW at least
atomic pelican
imperials not aware of the four armed emperor's grace
odd sparrow
if anything kroot are the real genestealers
atomic pelican
it's propaganda really
rotund siren
Yeah they're the opposite of stealers
primal tide
They're genegifters!
atomic pelican
Precisely
atomic pelican
GeneFriends
odd sparrow
we stan anger chickens
rotund siren
GENIES
crisp heath
blood angels can consume me any day
i'll be your chalice, daddy mephiston
storm jungle
i'll be your chalice, daddy mephiston
HMMMMMMMMMMMMMM
barren tapir
storm jungle
https://tenor.com/view/hopeless-disappointed-ryan-reynolds-facepalm-embarrassed-...
shut up loser
vampires for the win
storm jungle
and succ
barren tapir
are you a fool
No, i'm silver
tall fjord
going into some DECIDEDLY nsfw territory
odd sparrow
now look i'm not saying that fang wounds are the natural superior progression of hickeys but
rotund siren
No, i'm silver
Hi silver, I'm dad
storm jungle
now look i'm not saying that fang wounds are the natural superior progression of...
but they are
odd sparrow
But they are.
barren tapir
Hi silver, I'm dad
No, you are sunday
rotund siren
lmao
primal tide
Lol
rotund siren
yeah, really of the rocker there
tall fjord
didn't know we were crossing over into vampire the masquerade territory
crisp heath
now look i'm not saying that fang wounds are the natural superior progression of...
hickeys? i go straight to biting
final spruce
Probably drunk again
odd sparrow
i don't know what that is and i want to know what that is
tall fjord
but then again every now and then i hear stories about how some systems are SURPRISINGLY compatible with 40k
rotund siren
We're in Seattle?
odd sparrow
hickeys? i go straight to biting
bite marks are also valid
final spruce
Kinky
rotund siren
sounds painful
final spruce
But heresy nonetheless
odd sparrow
that's the idea
tall fjord
pain and pleasure can be the same thing
rotund siren
why
tall fjord
it's kids stuff till you've got whips and chains
rotund siren
why
atomic pelican
WE SING FOR SLAANESH
tall fjord
it just is
odd sparrow
i'm here, i'm queer, i'm turned on by fear
crisp heath
didn't know we were crossing over into vampire the masquerade territory
...my vtm character is literally just an emotional haemonculus
rotund siren
why are humans built like this
primal tide
HUMONGOUS TERMINATOR DADDIES
barren tapir
How the hell is that always around this time slaneesh get into this server?!?!
final spruce
Bite is like nail marks on the back, you don't really tend to feel em during the act unless its that deep or atleast they do'nt really hurt
Hormones are weird
tall fjord
somehow, eisenfausts comment is made more perfect by the fact his PFP is of a dark eldar
rotund siren
what is wrong with humans
crisp heath
my pfp is a vampire
odd sparrow
adrenaline is a helluva drug
final spruce
It really is
tall fjord
CLOSE ENOUGH!
crisp heath
idk have you never bitten yourself it's not that painful
storm jungle
Yeah fiction always plays it out as if people that get bitten are stabbed or something lol
barren tapir
I think it depend on the bite
odd sparrow
idk but when you're biting yourself like
final spruce
yeah but your body tends inibate your strenght because it knwos you're biting yourself
crisp heath
also depends where
odd sparrow
you're feeling that
tall fjord
"bites are not painful" meanwhile i've experienced the ETERNAL STING when my dog damn near bit my hand off while trying to grab at a hotdog i was giving them
odd sparrow
you kinda automatically moderate it
storm jungle
"bites are not painful" meanwhile i've experienced the ETERNAL STING when my dog...
TINY VAMPY BITES!
rotund siren
You can bite off your finger like a carrot
tall fjord
i am AMAZED i still have my fingers
odd sparrow
hey to be fair dogs have particularly strong jaws
rotund siren
I have been bit by my dog
odd sparrow
we're talking smol jaw vampires here
rotund siren
it hurts
tall fjord
you have never seen excitement till you have placed human food in front of a dogs eyes
final spruce
Meanwhile I can litteraly take food out of my dog's jaw
tall fjord
the way they stare
odd sparrow
plus they're probably centuries old! they have very good control of that stuff
final spruce
odd sparrow
Dogs aren't gonna intentionally use like. actual bites on u
tall fjord
i miss dog
rotund siren
well I used to be able to, but now my dog is old and grouchy and will bite my full force
barren tapir
Oh, also vampires are canon in WH40K
crisp heath
several sorts kind of
final spruce
Well that's more like him being an ass then
odd sparrow
they might bite u pretty hard but like, a full dog bite is strong
rotund siren
yes
open marsh
bite marks are also valid
Those are a good reason to wear low collar shirts. Get to show off your trophies
crisp heath
like several factions and individuals engage in vampiric behavior
odd sparrow
not smthn they're gonna be using on u unless you've mistreated them badly
final spruce
I think a German Shepard has enough strenght to fully rip off a hand
crisp heath
Those are a good reason to wear low collar shirts. Get to show off your trophies
alternately, a good reason to wear high collared ones
rotund siren
I think he just had arthritis
odd sparrow
Those are a good reason to wear low collar shirts. Get to show off your trophies
plus low collar shirts are hot in general tbh
tall fjord
trust me, i am aware, rottweiler used to get very, VERY bitey, but in his defense he wanted the cheeseburger SUPER bad
barren tapir
No, i mean complete vampires
odd sparrow
i prefer high collars tho
storm jungle
No, i mean complete vampires
oH SHIET
atomic pelican
VLADDY!
final spruce
More to purge ?
odd sparrow
he's literally husband goals
crisp heath
idk man i like my collar to go up to my jawline and strangle me a little when i exert some force
atomic pelican
Vlad really did drink respect isabella juice
odd sparrow
besides being a corpse
atomic pelican
He was great
storm jungle
Vlad really did drink respect isabella juice
he literally threw her asshole-groom-to-be out a window
AND HE GOT TO THE HOUSE
LIKE 5 MINUTES AGO
atomic pelican
YEAH
odd sparrow
Yes.
atomic pelican
I really hope Vlad shows up in AoS somehow leading a free-faction of vampires
storm jungle
2. bastard, total bastard
Mannfred
odd sparrow
Yes.
atomic pelican
More non-Nagash controlled undead would be cool
odd sparrow
yeah that would be really cool tbh
storm jungle
atomic pelican
AGFGDFHGN
storm jungle
👀
odd sparrow
i love him so much
also like! in total war his diplomacy dialogue! he's so polite and courteous
mannfred is all I AM DARKNESS I AM DEATH BEHOLD MY POWER and meanwhile vlad is just
vibing
crisp heath
how did he lose his nose?
atomic pelican
My first order of business everytime I play Vlad is to rush drakenhof and rip mannfred's bald head off
storm jungle
Vlad literally says "Come sit next to me and have some wine while we discuss!"
atomic pelican
Iirc he got his head blown of fby a cannon and it regenned without a nose
odd sparrow
idk probs just rotted off with how many times he's been resurrected at this point?
F
storm jungle
F
odd sparrow
carstein ring is a helluva drug
rotund siren
that makes no sense but ok
atomic pelican
Some art depicts him in current canon with his nose
final spruce
Man those vampires are tough bastards
storm jungle
Vladdy No Nose
odd sparrow
he's undead
rotund siren
but if his head regened
odd sparrow
plus iirc that was only with his magical regeneration ring
rotund siren
and it didn't do his nose
storm jungle
regenned without it
Mannfred stole it
odd sparrow
i assume it was anyways
atomic pelican
AAA
atomic pelican
Yeee, it was with his ring
odd sparrow
Ye that would make sense
rotund siren
huh
odd sparrow
normally i don't think a vampire could survive cannon to face
barren tapir
But then he get it back
atomic pelican
I prefer the Vlad with a nose depiction
crisp heath
idk, i think he deserves to have his nose back
rotund siren
I guess the ring just hates noses
odd sparrow
this is true
crisp heath
well he will always be handsomer over mannchild, bald gym douche in a tank top
crisp heath
he looks like he leaves the weights on the rack
atomic pelican
odd sparrow
he looks like he's blocked by every vampire in sylvania on account of the sudden unsolicited magically transmitted dick pics
atomic pelican
This is so sad
odd sparrow
lol yeah it's like that for a few models
odd sparrow
they just. didn't update it
storm jungle
LOL
atomic pelican
but he also has his new mortarch model
storm jungle
he deserved it
atomic pelican
FDHNUFHDNS
storm jungle
fucking traitor
atomic pelican
YEAH
odd sparrow
it's the same here
Snikch is still snikch in the url
but he's just generic deathmaster in the actual page
odd sparrow
new skaven anything actually. heck just.
atomic pelican
Yep
odd sparrow
not new, updated.
atomic pelican
They're one of those lines with dated WHF models
odd sparrow
yeah. Really badly dated
atomic pelican
Most of their monsters/machines look good to me imo but their infantry is soooo bad
odd sparrow
and it's a shame cus multiple big games have gone over the designs present in that range with new fancy models
GW doesn't have to design shit
atomic pelican
Yeee
storm jungle
NOOO
odd sparrow
just go back over what you already have with updated kits
storm jungle
WHAT DID THEY DO TO HIM
odd sparrow
;-; poor queek
odd sparrow
lmao
atomic pelican
But like
their monsters do look kinda good imo
and their machines still hold up
atomic pelican
atomic pelican
Also they're shockingly cheap?
primal tide
Hahaha they're just legitimately mice lmao
atomic pelican
OWO
potent swift
I feel like Total Warhammer is lowkey doubling as a testbed for new sculpts
odd sparrow
the best fusion of a pretty cool intimidating design with it's literally an armed hamster wheel
atomic pelican
Oh wow, skaven models are
really really cheap
A tleast they're not expensive and shitty looking
final spruce
Rars
atomic pelican
"i can't fucking see shit"
storm jungle
DFKJSKJD
primal tide
Hahaha
odd sparrow
lmao
storm jungle
HOSE-NOSE
primal tide
That one picture where they're all at the table
final spruce
Damn, this one got bonked too hard on the head
crisp heath
"i can't fucking see shit"
14yro emo in the hallway near the cafeteria
storm jungle
master splinter nooo
atomic pelican
ADSDS
primal tide
You just called yourself out
odd sparrow
the rat ogres
atomic pelican
AAA
potent swift
He kinda looks like a cheap action figure
primal tide
Dad bod ogre
potent swift
You can even see the seams that make them posable
crisp heath
i was goth and i wore a sheepskin to school
storm jungle
^
final spruce
Damn those minis do really look like they are from a medieval time
odd sparrow
what's a sheepskin
crisp heath
the skin and fur of a sheep
odd sparrow
hopefully they do like. update them eventually
atomic pelican
The skaven's most expensive minis are the verminlords at like $105, which is really cheap for a centerpiece. I think they're eithe rnew or from WHF end times lineup considering how fresh they look
https://www.games-workshop.com/resources/catalog/product/600x620/99120206018_VerminLordSkreech01.jpg
odd sparrow
they're end times yeah
potent swift
End Times
atomic pelican
Yee I figured
odd sparrow
along with stormfiends
potent swift
Thanqoul and Boneripper too
odd sparrow
which look SUPER 40k in their actual kit, thank god vermintide revisited that
storm jungle
jesus christ
storm jungle
do the skaven have ANY new models for Aos
odd sparrow
they have like
atomic pelican
They haven't really been visited as a faction yet too much other than having a codex and some intro lore
potent swift
odd sparrow
isn't there that one kit of basic bitch looking skaven? what was that for
odd sparrow
oh astounding
atomic pelican
Not that I'm aware of
atomic pelican
OWO
odd sparrow
thanks AoS
final spruce
So like the IG, their newest model is a bulding, nice
primal tide
gaping rat holes
atomic pelican
AA
odd sparrow
die
primal tide
Haha
odd sparrow
Rats
atomic pelican
celebrating another birthday bash
michael it's your birthday today
warpstone and warptokens are on their way
primal tide
Jerma is a treasure and must be protected
storm jungle
Wait i got it
potent swift
So like the IG, their newest model is a bulding, nice
Same as Lizardmen, who got a temple
final spruce
Yeah but Lizardmen look cooler
open marsh
We need lizardmen in 40k, we already have them in lore. We need more mentions of them
atomic pelican
Seraphon make up for their dated models by being one of the strongest armies on the table rn FHNFHN
Oo?
final spruce
That's one way to sell it
storm jungle
We need lizardmen in 40k, we already have them in lore. We need more mentions of...
Actually what the hell were the Slann? All I know is that one john blanche piece on the wiki
odd sparrow
i'm p sure that one's new anyways
final spruce
It does look new
open marsh
Actually what the hell were the Slann? All I know is that one john blanche piece...
Possibly devolved Old Ones. its one of those "so ancient that GFL figuring it out" issues
potent swift
Yeah, that was from that Skaven vs Flesh Eater box
storm jungle
damn it rogue trader
odd sparrow
Slaan are big magical toad guys that function as like, the foremost creations of the Old Ones. Or at least their most direct servants
in fantasy anyways
in 40k they're just a vague fantasy reference lol
no idea what they're meant to be, if anything
atomic pelican
I imagine that Skaven will probs get a big update whenever they become more relevant to the lore, probably with a boxset to m atch
odd sparrow
why is my brain so borked
odd sparrow
Yeah hopefully. Similar thing to what they did with the necrons in 40k
big event, take the opportunity to update the range
atomic pelican
Yee rn they're p much just one of those armies who exist so that ppl could keep their old models + skaven are cool
odd sparrow
yee
primal tide
on accident
Classic scaven move there
atomic pelican
YEP
odd sparrow
huh they are?? the range just looks like a weird mishmash of diff bits to me
why are there wood elves just like. vibing.
atomic pelican
Their range is but yee the Cities are a big part of fluff
odd sparrow
what happened there
open marsh
But yeah, 40k Lizardmen: Tallerians
potent swift
They're mercs I think
atomic pelican
I think they were/are a minor thing
odd sparrow
ye that adds up
open marsh
Humanity merc'd dafuq out of them, with the only survivors being offworld traders/mercenaries. Now they team up with the Tau to fight the Imperium.
potent swift
I never understood why they were called dog soldiers
atomic pelican
Probably a play on dogs of war
odd sparrow
for the greater plan™️
open marsh
I never understood why they were called dog soldiers
In lore, because their faces look vaguely doglike.
potent swift
Not the first thing that comes to mind but alright
open marsh
Average imperial soldier probably dunno what a croc or lizard is
storm jungle
Can confirm, they get confused at the mention of bees too
primal tide
NOT THE BEEES
atomic pelican
Dog soldiers is a phrase to mean 'mercenary' which is basically what they are
Is what id guess
atomic pelican
Truu
potent swift
Average imperial soldier probably dunno what a croc or lizard is
Yeah, that tracks. Like how the Admech think mules were a kind of insect.
open marsh
Yeah, that tracks. Like how the Admech think mules were a kind of insect.
Or that monkeys have vemonous barbs in their tails
open marsh
Dog soldiers is a phrase to mean 'mercenary' which is basically what they are
We are both correct
They are commonly known as Tarellian Dog-soldiers, because of their snouted faces and their habit of working as mercenaries.
plush mason
no booping
final spruce
Boop it with a power hammer
rotund siren
Diamonds Dogs owo
what is this a reference to? it sounds so familiar...
final spruce
Metal Gear ?
storm jungle
Can't be.
final spruce
METAL GEAR ?!
atomic pelican
Kojima godtier
plucky moth
a Kojima game in association with Kojima productions by Kojima studios based on the novel by Kojima
atomic pelican
Unironically one of the best portrayals of war/War industry problems In vidyo games
plucky moth
Kojima
storm jungle
plucky moth
(I actually really like him and his games)
atomic pelican
Yesss
plucky moth
didn't care for death stranding though
plucky moth
I'm still mad about silent hills
storm jungle
also kojima: cow mechs
plucky moth
never not mad
plucky moth
always angery
storm jungle
"how about we also deny him from getting his reward at game awards"
"thats smart right"
potent swift
thanks konami
Don't forget the crystal zombies
rotund siren
thanks konami
they've just... done so much
storm jungle
Don't forget the crystal zombies
gOD NO
storm jungle
they've just... done so much
also yes pachinko BRRRRR
plucky moth
mobile games are their focus now
rotund siren
gross
plucky moth
it's part of why Kojima was let go
atomic pelican
Apparently Konami makes most of its money in pachinko machines
plucky moth
why bother making an expensive as fuck masterpiece with a complex engine when you're already raking in mad dough on a fucking gacha game that cost like $100 to make
(I don't actually know the number but it was cheap)
that's such gross monetisation lmao
but eh I guess companies gotta make money
final spruce
I mean Kojima makes great games, but most people have said that working with him is essentially supporting him being overly cocky and stopping him from going too far.
rotund siren
or, the most money possible all the time
atomic pelican
Oh yeah, of course, games are never just 1 person in terms of good
plucky moth
death stranding kinda failed on the too far front
rotund siren
true
atomic pelican
Zher is right too, I believe he usually wants to do waayy too outta there things sometimes but then his coworkers/etc bring him back in
rotund siren
mailman in the superpocalypse simulator
final spruce
Well because it was litteraly Kojima with nobody telling him "nah"
rotund siren
haha, I see
plucky moth
final spruce
The only thing that I didn't like is the inabiltiy to do your own playlist in the game
Like you could in god damn MGS 5
final spruce
Human enemes also get easy to deal with, they don't evolve much
rotund siren
couldn't be kroot
atomic pelican
smh
potent swift
Tens of thousands of years and the only thing mankind has managed to evolve is exploding into daemons.
rotund siren
false, we also evolved unstable genomes and distinct abhuman strains
open marsh
Tens of thousands of years and the only thing mankind has managed to evolve is e...
because when the Great Crusade started, they literally wrote down a standard for what is human, and kill anything that deviates too far from that standard
potent swift
I was trying to be funny but that is true
final spruce
Because felinids are a stable genome
rotund siren
ok but those still are very inhuman
final spruce
They do'nt mutate all around
atomic pelican
Nya
storm jungle
odd sparrow
Your skin is slightly thicker than our human baseline, your imperial right to existence has expired
Perish
final spruce
That's why they are abhumans and not hunted on the spot
atomic pelican
Gotta have THICK SKIN to survive in this city
odd sparrow
Thicc
final spruce
What's what i'm saying
rotund siren
because when the Great Crusade started, they literally wrote down a standard for...
but they would have to be far from human standard to be cat-like, regardless
rotund siren
even substantially different ears would probably be enough to kill you for
open marsh
but they would have to be far from human standard to be cat-like, regardless
Not really, look at the Beastmen. They are goaty bois and they pass (barely). Some khajiit would be abit closer to standard than Beastmen
rotund siren
oh that is true
final spruce
Not even barely
rotund siren
but they are currently being hunted
final spruce
They aren't allowed in imperials settlements
open marsh
Not even barely
8e codex mentions that Beastmen are holding the "abhuman" title by the slimmest of margines
final spruce
IG one ?
storm jungle
We share 92% of our dna with monkeys
DONT GIVE THE ELDAR IDEAS
final spruce
Too late
storm jungle
final spruce
I mean they are pretty muscly
open marsh
We share 92% of our dna with monkeys
Fun fact, there is more DNA difference between a house cat and a tiger than there is between a human and a monke
final spruce
Which makes sense
odd sparrow
That's cus humans r monke
open marsh
I bet astartes ass is super lean
storm jungle
hot
rotund siren
we are more similar to bananas than we are to octopodes
odd sparrow
^^
atomic pelican
Return to Monke
odd sparrow
ok turtle
storm jungle
KJDFSFDS