40k-lore-chat

[final spruce]

I hope they also streamline those bullgryns

[knotty cove]

lol no they wont

autocannon club

take it or leave it

[final spruce]

Especially when Blade Vets are a thing

[knotty cove]

do you truly believe that guard is allowed to contest space marines

[final spruce]

If the SoB can, so do we

[knotty cove]

But yeah.

[open marsh]

DoW:Dark Crusade intensifies

[knotty cove]

Given what they did to the Stormblade

[final spruce]

But if they could atleast fix those Tempestus that's be neat

[atomic pelican]

IG serve their duty: die so space marines can look cooler saving the day

[knotty cove]

We can expect serious cuts on Baneblade costs.

Fully kitted, a Stormblade is only 445.

450*

[open marsh]

This is lore chat, why are we going into detailed crunch? .n.

[atomic pelican]

Basically every chat spirals offtopic but who cares

[knotty cove]

Because lore affects crunch! We're bitching about our lack of Primaris Baneblades!

D:

[open marsh]

We need Scion Baneblades

[knotty cove]

We need scion tanks in general

[open marsh]

Since Scions are just Primaris IG

[knotty cove]

Tbh

Give Scions an Antonov A-40

[final spruce]

We got Taurox primes , but thats not even a reinforced vehicle

[open marsh]

....yes

[knotty cove]

Deepstrike Light Leman Russ

[open marsh]

Just all of the possible yes that can yes

[knotty cove]

This was an actual Soviet tank design

[open marsh]

I know

❤️

[knotty cove]

an intelligent person?

on the internet?

an outrage

[open marsh]

:p

[crisp heath]

i like tanks

i like biplanes

i feel... strangely confused about this

[knotty cove]

good

[primal tide]

Even if you don't bi the idea, tanks for considering it

[knotty cove]

chapin?

get into the forever box

[primal tide]

Boxing day was yesterday

[knotty cove]

nope

box

now

[primal tide]

Lol

[crude fern]

Never forget load bearing walls are heretical

[primal tide]

Structural heresy

That being said, one of the major construction materials that crops up in the lore is ferrocrete, which is just 40k spin on your standard steel reinforced concrete

[rich tinsel]

so grimm dark concret and dark grim steal beams?

[primal tide]

Grimdark rebar and pt tendons

[crude fern]

also that ferrus manus caught a lascanon beam and crushed it with his hands..and ate sand

[final spruce]

he is dead anyway so who cares

[crude fern]

https://tenor.com/view/chill-out-calm-down-relax-sherlock-gif-3577094

[final spruce]

?

[storm jungle]

Question Mark

[primal tide]

❓

[crisp heath]

the foundation of the imperial culture, architecture, customs, strategies and everything is a brick

unassuming and generally simple. brute force is easily applied, liberal applications of brute force also work well with the brick.

the brick performs best in large quantities and in small numbers might be underestimated.

it's easily reproduced and replicated.

it does not require excess mental capacity to understand and use the brick.

it's solid and reliable, but not groundbreaking... unless you decide to try and dig a hole with it.

[open marsh]

Who let Rogal Dorn in here?

[crisp heath]

THE WHOLE IMPERIUM.

IS BRICKS.

THE BRICK IS THE ULTIMATE METAPHOR FOR HUMANITY.

[crisp heath]

why are you booing me? i'm right

[final spruce]

I like you more now Liecht

[crisp heath]

Fiy i have white hair too

[final spruce]

Neat

[primal tide]

Concrete is just bricks and mortar on a smaller scale

Plus the steel but modern brick and masonry unit walls have steel reinforcing too

[ashen zenith]

Anyone know what book talks about the eversor assassin that has been in use ever since the horus heresy?

That's what I want to find out

[storm jungle]

Cryo-sleep

https://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Eversor_Temple

I suggest the lexicanum page. It gives some book details you dont need to dig through to find and the general idea of what they're like.

[median sundial]

What is the closest thing to a 40k Roadrunner sketch?

[primal tide]

Two tzeench daemons having a race doing anything together

[crisp heath]

Two bloodthirsters

[primal tide]

Nah that's Tom and Foghorn Leghorn

[crisp heath]

Then

100 bloodletters

[primal tide]

Just more Toms and Foghorn Leghorns

But of course, lamer than those classic cartoon characters cuz it's just boring bloodletters

[prime tide]

Welcome to the 40k lore chat, where we discuss the most interesting parts of the 40k universe, like bricks and various types of concrete

[atomic pelican]

Where else u gonna hear about it?

The brick convention?

Didn't think so

[primal tide]

"Brick convention", one of the many insults levied at the imperial fists by the iron warriors

[atomic pelican]

Flat earth real?

*Yo'vai is a T'au Empire Sept World located within the Nem'yar Atoll.

It is unique due to the fact the world is just a flat, circular expanse of solid matter.*

[open marsh]

Flat Yo'vai

[atomic pelican]

Good lord

some of the like, barely mentioned septs are really funny world-wise

[tall fjord]

to be fair in theory there wouldn't be anything stopping someone from artificially MAKING a flat planet

[atomic pelican]

Yee

It actuall ymentions that

[tall fjord]

wouldn't be much advantage to it, but it might be interesting

[atomic pelican]

The Earth Caste theorized someone terraformed it to be flat

[tall fjord]

"why didn't we just make a regular artificial habitat, like a dyson sphere or something?"

"no room in the budget"

"should we really be talking budgets once we begin creating artificial planets out of fuck all?"

[atomic pelican]

I'm browsing through the lesser known ones rn. Someone told me there was a tau sept shaped like a d20 and I had to find out

[tall fjord]

"well we COULD afford it if you took out all the stripper poles and th-"

"FLAT PLANET IT IS!"

[storm jungle]

HUMANS RUIN EVERYTHING BRO

[tall fjord]

pfft, ruined to YOU maybe

making the planet flat so we'd have enough room in the budget to turn flatplanet into the biggest strip club in the galaxy was genius

[storm jungle]

👀

[atomic pelican]

I really love the tiny off-parts of 40k lore, they're usually so crackheaded

[open marsh]

I do wonder who made that planet. On one hand we haven't seen even DAoT stuff made to do that.

But then again we have seen DAoT stuff which literally deletes parts of reality (not sending in to the the warp. It just deletes it)

[tall fjord]

i think in the lore both the early crons and the empire of robots who tried to overthrow mankind, thus leading to the dark age, could do both of that shit

or alot of shit like it

[storm jungle]

Yeah DAoT is just mcguffins nothing else

there could literally be a box that ends the universe

[tall fjord]

its okay, we can make it not-heretical by covering it in gold paint

and plastering it with parchments of random shit

[open marsh]

The Necrons have one of those

Well sort of. its a big map of the galaxy that can just delete stars

[storm jungle]

Yep i know

but its just an example of how the writer can just literally pull any tool out of it

and just go

"oh its dark age tech lol"

[tall fjord]

mentally im imagining they dont use it because it's running off of vista

"are you sure you would like to delete terra?"

"YES!"

"you do not have permission to delete terra, would you like to acquire permission?"

"we have been here for forty thousand years, DELETE THE FUCKING STAR ALREADY!"

"you do not have administrator priveliges to delete terra"

"I BUILT THE FUCKING THING I HAVE PERM-FFFFFFFF"

[open marsh]

Yeah. I like how DAoT tech ranges from "A slightly better laspistol" to "I can one shot entire battle fleets in a single shot"

[atomic pelican]

FOUND IT WITH DILARA'S HELP

https://wh40k.lexicanum.com/mediawiki/images/thumb/b/be/Tinekla.jpg/177px-Tinekla.jpg

It's a FSE planet!

[storm jungle]

YEEE!

[atomic pelican]

Tinek'La

[tall fjord]

and now, when we say "the dice are trying to kill me"

we can mean it literally

[storm jungle]

damn it 40k

[final spruce]

It looks like your average DRG planet wdym it looks fine to me

[potent swift]

You just gotta dig past that permafrost layer to get at that sweet morkite

[open marsh]

Necrons have a WH40K tabtle top style game, except everything is fully functional.

[atomic pelican]

Broke: Round Planet
Woke: Flat Planet
Bespoke: Hexagonal planet

[potent swift]

There's a forgeworld that's hollow. Like, they didn't make it that way, it was like that when they found it.

[atomic pelican]

I think the best part about this is it seems like it was a planet-wide fucking art project like

Tinek'la is a Tau world of the Farsight Enclaves. A crystalline world, it is home to many members of the Air Caste who live in floating hab-pods and Orbitals above its surface. The planet is a giant mineral structure so close to true transparency that it seems to glow with starlight. Lub'grahl's Earth Caste has stripped the planet of its thin, meteor cracked crust, leaving only behind a geometrically perfect surface. In doing so, they have transformed it from a shattered maze of crystal into a shimmering polygonal testament to the power of the Tau. The world's orbital stations are fashioned in the shape of Tinek'la itself.

So i t's a d20

surrounded by

smaller d20's

in orbit

[storm jungle]

Dude tau know whats up

[rotund siren]

wild

[storm jungle]

[rotund siren]

Lucius; it also has a fake star in the center

[tall fjord]

so, basically

a dyson sphere

they just found a dyson sphere floating around and colonized it without realizing what it was

[rotund siren]

kinda

[tall fjord]

actually.........very plausible for the setting

feats of engineering like that were apparently commonplace in the time of the old ones who predated the eldar i think they were

and then the eldar themselves did tons of wacky shit back when they were an empire

and i think very early crons

not even getting into "dark age"

[potent swift]

IIRC, the Dark Eldar literally steal suns to light up parts of Commoragh so you can say they still do wacky shit

[rotund siren]

that is some wacky shit

[plush mason]

dont they also use suns as a defence?

[tall fjord]

it didn't help them last time

[storm jungle]

Yep and melt shit

[tall fjord]

some dude wants to kill a ton of other dark eldar dudes, "ima just fuck with the warp real quick so that an entire space marine chapter just, gets lost and ends up in commoragh"

DID NOT END WELL FOR THEM

(worked GREAT for that one guy tho)

[storm jungle]

AND actually harvest dark matter

the more you know!

[plush mason]

in DOW1 they used cannons that fired dark matter

[storm jungle]

Yeee!

[potent swift]

Most people worry about junk mail, Dark Eldar have to worry about surprise blackholes in their mail

[tall fjord]

Commoragh - we are the ENTIRE dark eldar race, you will be playthings f-

Space Marines - LOLNO! git gud scrubs

[storm jungle]

LAND RAIDER SPAM

[storm jungle]

also i hate that this is literally true

and vect does it as a prank to someone

[plush mason]

lol

[atomic pelican]

Glitterbombing someone but with a singularity

[plush mason]

fuck vect

[tall fjord]

lets be fair

that would be funny as hell

the first few times

[final spruce]

I mean, The eldar constructs (don't remember their name) literally shoot guns that open tiny black holes on their enemies

[rotund siren]

I mean, it would be impossible to get rid of

[tall fjord]

wraithguard i think

[rotund siren]

just like glitter

[final spruce]

Yeah wraithguard thanks

[storm jungle]

I think that was not blackholes

[plush mason]

thats craftworld eldar not dark eldar

[storm jungle]

it was more or so ripping their souls out

[final spruce]

They share the same tech

[tall fjord]

they're epic if you let them open up but they are insanely crap, not because they are themselves bad

[storm jungle]

one sec lads lemme see

[final spruce]

In 5th edition it was a tiny blackhole

[tall fjord]

but because literally everyone who uses them never has any kind of a counter to melee, at all, ever

[final spruce]

Because on a 6 to hit the unit would be banished to the void

[tall fjord]

so if you just run up with ogryns the eldar player has to spam that retreat button or lose his whole army

[plush mason]

more the dark eldar steal the craftworld eldar tech

[storm jungle]

Not that much

half of Craftworld tech is psychic-conduits

[final spruce]

^

[storm jungle]

and dark eldar are goblins and cant use em

[atomic pelican]

Psyker tech be that way

[final spruce]

Loot goblins that can't use warp powers or they get vored by Slaneesh

[atomic pelican]

I remember seeing some lore blurb about Tau being unable to figure out how a webway gate worked because of that

[potent swift]

Not that it stops Haemonculi from doing some serious weird stuff anyway

[storm jungle]

"This is some weird shit bro."

• Some Earth Caste Scientist

[atomic pelican]

P much

whack

[storm jungle]

DFKSFDKS

[storm jungle]

also yeah trust me haemonculi do all kinds of shit because yolo

[final spruce]

Well Dilara we were both right

[atomic pelican]

Tau get all the downsides of being non-psykers but just recently are also getting all the downsides of being psyker connected

[final spruce]

One weapons tears the soul: aka Soul Scythe

[atomic pelican]

It's quite the fun experience

FHFN

[final spruce]

The other open a small hole to the warp

[tall fjord]

i would really like it if the emprah could get restored JUST enough to finish the webway he was working on, because i'm really curious to see what he'd do with it

[final spruce]

A Wraithcannon is an Eldar vortex weapon of deadly potency similar to the D-Cannon. Wielded by a Wraithguard and powered by the psychic energy of its spirit stone, the Wraithcannon opens a small temporary rift between real and warp space, tearing apart its target as it is torn between different dimensions. However, unlike the D-Cannon the Wraithcannon is more tightly controlled and more accurate. The Wraithcannons are so fiendish that no mortal (only Wraithguard) could wield them.

[storm jungle]

Yeeee nice!

[tall fjord]

plus it'd be twice as funny seeing the eldar rage that some monkey did a better job then they did in the equivalent of a cave with a box of scraps

[storm jungle]

wraithguard really do have lots of weird guns

[storm jungle]

also you fool

he made it in the first place to get eldar hookers!

[potent swift]

Also I'm about 90% sure there are Dark Eldar who splice themselves with tyranid organs for fashion

[storm jungle]

and void-blackjack!

[final spruce]

D-Scythes or Distortion Scythes are advanced Eldar Vortex Weapons. Considered a sinister and taboo weapon, D-Scythes can rip the soul of an enemy from their body and banish it to the Warp. When fired, a D-Scythe emits no visible blast and leaves behind no damage, save the motionless corpse of those targeted. D-Scythes are normally wielded by Wraithguards in place of their Wraithcannons.The Eldar call the act of separating the spirit from its body 'Cutting of the Crone's Cord', for in Eldar lore a strand ties the soul of a being to its material form. Tradition has it that only the Crone Goddess Morai-Heg herself has the right to sever this connection, for a mortal doing so is merely playing god. However as the desperate situation for the Eldar continues, more militant Autarchs are calling for more frequent deployment of these taboo weapons.
The D-Scythes are so fiendish that no mortal (only Wraithguard) could wield them.

[storm jungle]

Also yep! Its mentioned in their latest codex.

[tall fjord]

that would not surprise me, the dark eldar exist purely as a meme

[storm jungle]

100%

also again wraithguard guns are wack

[open marsh]

......

[tall fjord]

all i know is any time i saw wraithguard in dawn of war i'd always squee because i'd know i'd get to wreck some eldar shit really, really bad in about 5 seconds

[open marsh]

Only you, Dilara, only you

[potent swift]

How appropriate

[storm jungle]

OH MY GOD

I MEANT "LATEST" SORRY LOL

[open marsh]

smh

[storm jungle]

[rotund siren]

even unintentionally, you're horny

[open marsh]

^

[final spruce]

🗞️

That's why I can't go to sleep just yet

[storm jungle]

REEEE

[odd sparrow]

i'm gonna bet it originally said latex codex

[tall fjord]

i thought so too but didn't want to say it

nonetheless

.......good taste

[open marsh]

It did

[odd sparrow]

hell yea

space elf femdom time uwu

[final spruce]

I now imagine all deldars being graceful af but making latex noises

[storm jungle]

oh god

i feel like that was real

but then they realised and upgraded

"i dunno call it wychsuits or something"

[odd sparrow]

[extremely graceful squeaking noises approaching in near distance at an alarming speed]

[tall fjord]

"we can't sneak up on the humans anymore, they hear the squeaking a mile away"

"cover our outfits in sharp spikey stuff and build up on the theme of making them fear us"

[potent swift]

It would be very eldar to wear something obnoxiously squeeky and be good enough to not squeek in it

[tall fjord]

"we could just use our badass technology to hide the squeaking you kn-"

"IT WOULDNT BE FUN THAT WAY"

[final spruce]

How to make you laugh and fear at the same time

[rotund siren]

squeak squeak squeak squeaksqueaksqueaksqueak

[tall fjord]

that moment when warhammer fantasy invades 40k because the skaven get angry at the dark eldar for stealing half their theme

"THAT WAS OUR THING! stick to BDSM you elf weirdos!"

"we did, THUS THE SQUEAKING"

".........FUCK"

[potent swift]

WW1 France

Krieg

[odd sparrow]

man they do have gorgeous models

shame i'd need to sell my kidneys

[plush mason]

they have a death's head on their collers

but yeah Kreig has always had a heavy WW2 german army influence but this is the first time i have noticed the SS symbel on their uniforms

[vast frigate]

No, theye been inspired by WW1

French and belgian

[plush mason]

then why is a death's head there?

[vast frigate]

The fact that their name is german is part of the confusion

[rotund siren]

Skulls are the whole thing in the Imperium

literally everywhere

[vast frigate]

theres major french and belgian uniform inspiration, the skulls are 100% imperial decoration

hell the germans used rounded helmets, not flared ones

[plush mason]

its still a german helmet

[open marsh]

If you noticed, the Imperium likes its skulls on everything

[vast frigate]

Belgian

the top one is french

[plush mason]

ww1 german

[open marsh]

Oh look, a WWI german soldier

not a nazi

[vast frigate]

Ikr?

[plush mason]

yes

[vast frigate]

Just a reichsmann

that and the germans didnt use anti-sniper plates

[rotund siren]

still WW1

[open marsh]

But the Death Korp's coats are still french. Look at the buttons on the chest

[vast frigate]

No army used anti sniper plates on their helmets that i can think of btw

[plush mason]

they are a mix of both

french coats and german helms

[vast frigate]

Death korps are definitively more french and belgian than german

their helmets are inspired but not taken as much as the rest of their stuff is

[plush mason]

the helm and rucksack are german

[open marsh]

American Gas Masks

[vast frigate]

Again the main issue lies that theyre called Krieg and speak in a seeming german language

that and HURDUR SPACE GERMANS HAHA

[plush mason]

to sum it up

[primal tide]

maybe in the 40k universe the nazis came from france

[plush mason]

the death korps are based off ww1 soldiers for all sides

[open marsh]

and not Nazis

correct

[plush mason]

yeah GW should have put the skull in a different place tho

[primal tide]

and given it a more normal skull shape

[vast frigate]

Except, nobody cares

[primal tide]

patently false

[vast frigate]

in the 6 years ive been in the hobby this is the first time ive seen someone go ''Oh the skull makes it bad''

[primal tide]

so you admit its not nobody 😛

[plush mason]

i mean isnt nazi igonogrphy illegal in many countries?

[primal tide]

thats a good question actually

[vast frigate]

its not

its illegal is select countries

[plush mason]

its the fact it could be mistaken for nazi imagry

[vast frigate]

Germany, switzerland, etc

its frowned upon and fineable in a lot tho

[vast frigate]

it really only is when you want to go into it

[open marsh]

Only if you stretch the imaginination and forget that the Imperium puts skulls on everything

[plush mason]

this is true

[vast frigate]

Like, yes you can mistake it, but 40k is extremists everywhere

Take just a single book and Im sorry but..

Nazis are nothing to the imperium

[open marsh]

Also its not the Deathshead. Its just a regular skull. Deaths head is skull and crossbones

[tall fjord]

40k really, REALLY doesn't have a 'good' side in the way other worldsettings do

[plush mason]

not the one on the coller

[primal tide]

rogue traders are the good side

[vast frigate]

No.

[primal tide]

go do your own thing and live on the road

[vast frigate]

Rogue traders are nearly always in it for themselves

[primal tide]

you dont say

[open marsh]

Even on the collar

[tall fjord]

the eldar and tau are massive dicks, rogue traders are just wild cards who do whatever they feel like so while they CAN be good it's more like the 40k version of fear and loathing in las vegas, while the imperium as a whole, at their best can simply be said to be forced to do horrible shit just to SURVIVE

[plush mason]

my mistake

[vast frigate]

Book spoiler ||Janus draike wanted to become immortal, thats why he sought out the fortress, he contemplated ignoring it because the payout wasnt far up enough for his liking until he learned of the artefact vault||

and thats 1 out of many rogue traders

[primal tide]

sounds like a pretty cool guy to me

[vast frigate]

i mean except his craving and willing to do anything for immortality within imperial grant, yeah

[wispy geyser]

I dont really know what exactly the tau did to make you hate them, the only reason to dislike them is because their whole, thingy revolves around mind slavery

[vast frigate]

we still dont know if thats true sadly

[atomic pelican]

farsight enclave pfp

it checks out.

[vast frigate]

cause everything points to it but like

[open marsh]

Memes

Getting lore from memes

Made by salty players who got rekt by a Tau gunline

[atomic pelican]

LUL

[vast frigate]

pretty much

[open marsh]

and start crying "Tau dont fit the setting! remove now!"

[vast frigate]

<while they do>

[tall fjord]

the tau are perfectly fine for the setting, just don't mistake them for the good guys. 40k has no 'good guys'

[open marsh]

I know

[vast frigate]

everywhere theres empires wanting to toss eachother over the cliff

Also theres superhell

[wispy geyser]

would you say the farsight enclaves are closest to good

[vast frigate]

nah

they align more to good but the only good the galaxy had were argueably the old ones

[open marsh]

I also dont get why people still hope for Tau getting removed when they have been around since 3e

[vast frigate]

they can be squatted

[atomic pelican]

They ain't gonna do that LOL

[vast frigate]

the moment you buy GW models you pretty much-

[atomic pelican]

The Tau are one of the best selling xeno factions

[vast frigate]

yeah they can

[atomic pelican]

I mean they can but they can also squat space marines

[open marsh]

The Tau are what got me into 40k

[vast frigate]

the moment a faction drops below a certain sales point, its up for the chopping block

[wispy geyser]

same

[atomic pelican]

You can say that about literally any faction tho

[vast frigate]

Chadmech got me

Yes, aunva

[potent swift]

I feel like there'd be a level of sunk cost though

[atomic pelican]

Tho I can't think of a faction that's really been squatted in any recent years

[vast frigate]

but the issue here lies that marines sell for around 53%, chaos and loyalist

[open marsh]

Tau is like a way to wade into 40k. Via a more traditional Scifi faction.

[vast frigate]

that leaves 47% for the rest of it all

and uh

The imperium leads still

[potent swift]

Like, once you put enough models/rules/etc into the faction you'd would try to revitalize it rather than squat it

[vast frigate]

IIRC the xenos together share like 25% of sales

[open marsh]

Since Tau are basically Mass Effect Star Wars Gundam

[wispy geyser]

well if you think about it the imperium makes a large protion of the total playable armies

[vast frigate]

Yeah on that, the tau were GW's attempt to the asian-prefering market

Gundams, battlesuits, eastern society

Thats because GW went to it due to sales as well jaundice

Female marine models used to exist

they were discontineud because of the issue of sales

[atomic pelican]

Talking about sales is fair but I think it's ludicrous to expect GW to just start cutting entire xeno lines who have been established

[vast frigate]

People would return packets with female marine sculpts cause they looked like shit

[open marsh]

And more traditional scifi fans

[vast frigate]

The squats were established well

[atomic pelican]

uh

They were literally just a pull from WHF

I don't even think they had a codex or anything like that

[vast frigate]

As is everything else pulled from everything else

[atomic pelican]

no

I mean some factions yes

[vast frigate]

a scottish friend still has 3k points of squats

they definitely had a sub codex

Issue comes around, any army can be squatted, thats the danger of this hobby

Xeno's and small factions are just more in danger

[atomic pelican]

Yes because I'm sure GW literally just wants space marines fighting eachother

[open marsh]

Squad the Space marines, worst faction

[atomic pelican]

I mean you 'd think they do considering their business rn

GW is bad but as I said before, thinking they're gonna just start squatting random xenos is like

crackheaded

[open marsh]

^

[vast frigate]

they wont, luckily

[open marsh]

Except the Consecrators. They can stay

Consecrators are best boys

[vast frigate]

what is getting annoying is that theyve pretty much admitted to their marine prefferance and pushing

and keep doing it

[open marsh]

In the Grimdarkness of the Far Future, there are only Space Marines

Space Marine 40,000

The Imperium of Space Marines

[vast frigate]

i cant remember the full thing but an EX employee from that design board explained the uh

''Requirements of marine updates and releases for their lore looking glass''

[atomic pelican]

Yee most people are aware of the space marine bias

[open marsh]

There is 1 aspect I do love about space marines; relic wargear. But you know that about me already

[vast frigate]

To put it mildly, it comes to the point of: Yeah we know theres more than the space marines, but most lore is told from the eye of the imperium!

So... show us more than just the marine eye, give us SOBS, more of it all, admech, civilians, guardsmen, eldar looking at the imperium

Marines are just a cooler glass to look through!

[open marsh]

Look at this absolute CHAD. rocking up in MkIV armour, a combi-plasma, and power sword

[vast frigate]

and all provided by the robed rad bois

[atomic pelican]

AARAVOS!

[open marsh]

Tech-Marines make wargear too. But thats more of a 40k thing

[vast frigate]

techmarines repair maintain bless and forge yes

But the bulk of delivery is either done on a monestary or a forgeworld

hell marines get payed in thrones

[open marsh]

No they actually make stuff. I will have to go back through the Imperial Armour books, but the first that comes to mind is a mention of a chapter's tech marines who make Combi-Plasmas

[rotund siren]

(and definitely DON'T create anything. nope. no siree. don't look here Ad Mech, nothing to see)

[vast frigate]

so they can order special built items

[potent swift]

The worst thing is, I actually like the Primaris designs. It's just everything else about them that I hate.

[vast frigate]

as i said, they do indeed Repair, maintain, bless AND forge

[rotund siren]

the Gary/Mary Sue curse

[vast frigate]

eh

[open marsh]

also admech is among my favorite factions, because they like relics too but they only really care about big relics

[vast frigate]

thats all marines Solstice

oh they care about the small relics too

[rotund siren]

true

[vast frigate]

They have the mars rovers in a museum on Mars

[open marsh]

Not as much

[vast frigate]

Okay let me just sum up small relics

An STC stencil, a small fragment this is, like the size of a thumbstick

was found by 2 guardsmen, it made knives sharper

They both got an entire planetary sector

[open marsh]

Thats an STC

Whole different monster

And yes I am aware of STCS

[potent swift]

It was a full ass STC that made better kives

[vast frigate]

no, it was afragment

[tall fjord]

someone brought up the mars rover

[vast frigate]

or they changed it

[open marsh]

who do you think entered most of the noted STC discoveries on the Lexicanum?

[rotund siren]

I mean, every STC is a fragment, technically

[vast frigate]

cause last time i read that shitit said fragment

[open marsh]

Okay mr. Pedantic.

I was typing STC because "STC fragment" is longer

[vast frigate]

the thing is, in the relativity of this entire thing

they couldve said ''neat it makes sharper knives, not that impressive, have a city''

they instead gave that small discovery a sector

[open marsh]

STC fragments are insanely valuable

[vast frigate]

im aware

[open marsh]

But they are not what I was talking about

[potent swift]

It wasn't a sector but they both got their own planets

[vast frigate]

The small relics are relics, unless you mean a plasma from the golden age

cause that makes more sense lol

[vast frigate]

i really need to read up on that thing again cause im misremembering it hard i see

[open marsh]

I mean like a helmet of MkII that was used during the great crusade. AdMech relly wouldnt care too much. But Astartes will go to war to recover one if the chapters culture is about such relics

[vast frigate]

of course

small relics is too vague a term tbf

low value relics?

[open marsh]

For future reference, an STC fragment is not a "small relic"

[open marsh]

value is relative

Such a helmet would be invaluable to such a chapter

[vast frigate]

Then the knife STC is still balls

[open marsh]

...what?

[vast frigate]

Im not gonna grab a USB with ''important data'' grab a bag of cash and hand it off, only to find out the valuable data is valuable to my friend, who is a chef

[odd sparrow]

lore nazi fight?

[open marsh]

I honestly have no idea what he is on about at this point

[vast frigate]

You do

[open marsh]

I really dont

you have lost me

[vast frigate]

mhm

Sharper Knife STC fragment is practically shit

Unless it makes every knife a cheap power knife you lose me on the entire planet given away for it

[open marsh]

pats Gonna call you scarecrow because you like strawmanning

[vast frigate]

clearly strawmanning yeah

an stc fragment that just makes knives sharper isnt a big relic in sense for the adeptus mechanicus, its just valued cause its an stc fragment

Im not trying to apply logic to the admech here, cause they got about 0.5% of that left

Doesnt take away from it that its not as big a relic as a rediscovered gun type would be

or something thatd actually make the knives more powerful, its ''small'' to contribution, or small to value

[median sundial]

Why are terminators always sent into Space Hulks?

[potent swift]

Cause there's turbo dangerous

[open marsh]

Their suits are more suitable for the possibly varied enviroment and threats

[vast frigate]

Theyre walking tanks

[distant harness]

smaller marines die if they aren't deathwatch and bigger marines get stuck

[rotund siren]

yeah Space Hulks are nightmarishly dangerous

[distant harness]

also terminators are mostly all veterans, which helps

[open marsh]

They are all veterans. Kind of a requirement to get the Crux Terminatus and the right to wear a suit of Termie

[distant harness]

I think there's a couple chapters that function a bit different, but wasn't sure so just went with "most" lol

either way it's just "they're good at what they do and terminator gear is good at making you not die"

[open marsh]

I cant think of any that dont do that

[distant harness]

I think some can put lower tier command officers in it? Novamarines can put their whole first company in it too, so are a bit less strict on earning the right to use it than others

they're all vets I guess though

[open marsh]

All 1st company are veterans

[distant harness]

grey knights too obviously

though their tech restrictions are basically just "it exists and isn't something custodes claimed for themselves"

iron hands have a thing with sergeants in termie gear, though the description of what a space marine vet is makes no sense lol

sergeants are clearly vets, but aren't referred to as such usually

[plush mason]

so is imperial high gothic a variation of german like rikespile was in fantasy?

[ashen zenith]

@vast frigate what if the knife stc had a really cool cosmetic

Like fade or doppler

[open marsh]

No

Its pseudo-latin

[plush mason]

ty

also i dont understand why people where confussed by the heavy german influence on the empire of man in fantasy

the holy roman empire was mostly german speaking peoples

ofc i doubt many warhammer players know much about real world history lol

[plucky moth]

the problem is Germany doesn't exist

Austrian prank that went way too far

[plush mason]

the 2nd emperor was a german

[plucky moth]

that's what they want you to believe

[plush mason]

his people would become the austrians

[plucky moth]

ok I'll stop shitposting now

[crisp heath]

They drew atilla like a German barbaroi

[plush mason]

which was weird

[crisp heath]

Yup

We was like maybe mongol

He was steppe

[plush mason]

we dont know that for sure

[crisp heath]

Most of his horde were steppe

We know he’s Asian

[plush mason]

no one really knows where the hun tribe was first from

[crisp heath]

His tribe was most likely khadakhstan

I don’t know how to type

[plush mason]

the only historical record of his peoples origin that i know of say they where from a swamp in the western steppes

[crisp heath]

Yup

But it’s 100% dude himself was of Asian origin

The other Germans were vandals

Or osttigoths

[plush mason]

german was a catchall term

[crisp heath]

They were barbarian tribes

[plush mason]

its gaulic for nearman

[crisp heath]

Yup

[plush mason]

but yeah after charalmane pasified the east he moved most of his powerbase into the area of modern day austria iirc

[open marsh]

Everyone

i just realized something

The Emperor....is healing

[plush mason]

about damn time

[open marsh]

This was Big E in the 5th Edition rulebook

And now in 9e

[storm jungle]

wow

they really re-edited that artwork

I love how they even covered his exposed ribcage lmao

[open marsh]

Big E is coming back, babieeeeeee

[final spruce]

Ah yes censoring

[plush mason]

his first move will be to tear down the state church

[final spruce]

Because xposed ribs is too grimdark for a grimdark world

[open marsh]

And the flesh has regrown over his skull

He is regenerating

[storm jungle]

In our souuuls

[open marsh]

Am excited

[storm jungle]

will admit though looks goofy as hell

im almost sure its zher's reasoning where GW thought it was too grimdank or something lol

[distant harness]

nah 40k is still just as silly that way, he just kind of looked dumb before

like look at his face

[storm jungle]

I hate it lol

reject flesh

return to skellyboom

[distant harness]

and his weird short ribs

man would be like 70% leg

rare picture of the emperor in his prime

[crisp heath]

this is still my favorite emperor enthroned picture

[distant harness]

much better ribs

stamp of approval

[final spruce]

I still thinks its censoring

But in case you are right ... poggers

I guess ascending to Godhood has benefits

One being healthcare

[open marsh]

I dont think so since the 9e codex is still full of skeles and such. I mean the Blade Guard Vets have skeles on their wargear

[distant harness]

you see that new edition trailer? with the sister getting fucking eviscerated by some big necron? don't think the ribs are censorship lol

[final spruce]

I just noticed

They have found big E right arm back

[distant harness]

🤔

[open marsh]

This

She gets fucking PASTED

Also that Guardsman who catches a gauss beam to the face

[distant harness]

[open marsh]

"censorship"

[distant harness]

40k is just too tame nowadays

[open marsh]

smh

[open marsh]

You read Warhammer Adventures: Attack of the Necron?

A kid gets dusted by a necron gauss weapon

[knotty cove]

Straight up schlorped

[distant harness]

I have not fully, though I heard the outrage was insane

[plush mason]

its 40k

[knotty cove]

lol what, really?

[plush mason]

kids die all the damn time

[distant harness]

I mean the outrage was insane, but I heard it was particularly unfounded

[knotty cove]

People were actually upset over that?

[distant harness]

there was a lot of angry dudes talking about it

[knotty cove]

Pussies

[plush mason]

and those are the lucky ones

[distant harness]

think a few authors even responded at points

[crisp heath]

idk if warhammer is the kind of fandom i'd want to show to kids below the age of 13 but the books i heard were fairly decent

[plush mason]

so many fates in 40k are far worse than death

[open marsh]

It was. They saw it was a childrens book and started going off on how 40k is being cleaned up and kiddified. And yeah, in the book you arent gonna see a kid get flayed alive while he screams for his mama or something.

But at the same time it doesnt pull punchs. A kid makes a mistake and gets killed. ||Also the Ultramarines lose||

[plush mason]

that one fact makes the book perfect in everyway

[crisp heath]

i still think that warhammer is best found out via a nerdy older friend that's too into military tech or by coming upon a thread or meme on the internet with a book recommendation

40k is one of the darkest things

It’s second to fantasy which is abit more dark

i really don't think fantasy is darker than 40k tbh

It’s waaay darker

it's common in hives to eat literally processed corpses

[plush mason]

didnt one fantasy book go into hella detail about a dark elf raping a high elf?

[open marsh]

If you are lucky

[crisp heath]

Fantasy is very dark

[distant harness]

https://twitter.com/adembskibowden/status/998626483483693056

Aaron Dembski-Bowden (@adembskibowden)

I got into 40K and Warhammer Fantasy through Space Crusade and Hero Quest when I was about 10 or 11, much like 1,000s of people my age. One of the first people I played 40K with could barely stop his lip from curling. I'd come in through the 'kid' route.

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Twitter · May 21, 2018, 6:08 PM

[crisp heath]

fantasy is dark but i think 40k still tops it

[distant harness]

one of the responses in question

there was a whole ridiculous shitfest when those releases got announced for some reason

god that tweet took way too long to find for how easy it was to find

also yeah 40k is 100% darker

fantasy is not really dark at all in a good amount of areas

[crisp heath]

criminals literally get lobotomized and made into machines, any and all imperial guard that survive fighting daemons alongside the ordo malleus are summarily executed for merely learning about their existence, shit like the daemonculaba exists

[distant harness]

"shit like the daemonculaba exists"
I intentionally refuse to agree

[knotty cove]

The Guard point is insanely stupid to me

Like

[crisp heath]

fabius bile and the haemonculi exist

[knotty cove]

c a d i a ?

[distant harness]

guards can fight daemons, they just can't know what they really are, I think

[crisp heath]

probably an exception too

[knotty cove]

^

"fuckin xenos"

[distant harness]

if they think they're just weird aliens or something against the emperor they're alright, if they find the true nature of the warp they get executed though

[crisp heath]

but that's the modus operandi of the ordo malleus: any pdf and guardsmen after their operations are concluded are executed, and space marines are administered memory wiping drugs

[distant harness]

also weren't a few cadians spared at one point, and their corruption went on to kill a whole hospital world or something?

[knotty cove]

Not like the regimental psyker was gonna live anyways

[crisp heath]

because it would be a waste of resources to kill a sm over that

[knotty cove]

just a planet, they die every Tuesday it's whatever

[crisp heath]

also because the warp is technically a cognitohazard to regular people

[distant harness]

I mean yeah but planets are way more expensive than a few thousand guard grunts lol

can't just breed new planets

[knotty cove]

naaaah

Sure you can

[distant harness]

maybe nids can 🤔

[knotty cove]

Beg the Necrons enough and we can "gift" you some shit

[distant harness]

also yeah the cognitohazard thing is a great way to put it

[knotty cove]

(Flayed Ones not sold separately)

[distant harness]

yeah okay I see that lizard eye bud, you're not gonna fool me mr hive mind

[knotty cove]

hey

im a necron player right now

[distant harness]

"I'm totally a friendly robot bro I swear, just send me some biomass so I can study it :^)"

[knotty cove]

^^^

look at my name

it screams trustworthy

[distant harness]

I wonder who could be behind this post

[knotty cove]

like really, im almost as trustworthy as that mephet'ran fellow

(very trustworthy man)

(the trustiest of trustworthy people)

Anyways yeah just uhh lemme borrow some biomass guys

[vast frigate]

Hey did rylanor dunk on fulgrim or is he still waiting?

[plush mason]

he failed

fulgrim survived the virus bomb

but he did humble him before the end

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X2Hb4bngxJ8

this sums it up

[quiet pier]

rylanor still is a better man than big E ever wouldve been

[plush mason]

agreed

[open marsh]

Fulgrim would have rather died, tbh

[plush mason]

yes

that timestop bs gave him time to beg daddy slaneesh to save him

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ybvtDr48sqo

that was badass

[crisp heath]

fulgrim: a lesson about taking freebies you don't know enough about

and becoming a cunt

[final spruce]

Also the old adage of never trusting a talking sword taken from a scalie sex cult

[vast frigate]

He dunked on him still

[plush mason]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lT2g2JywF2g

[vast frigate]

I mean, imagine if fulgrim didnt defect to heretical stuff

Or angron

[crisp heath]

don't trust anything that comes from a sex cult you haven't gotten yourself

[distant harness]

how was he supposed to know the obvious demon was up to no good?

[crisp heath]

you don't know where it's been.

[final spruce]

Because Fulgrim always had his head too deep in his own arse

[plush mason]

leave it to the sons of russ to be the only voices of reason in the imperium

[final spruce]

The Burning of Prospero says otherwise

[plush mason]

prospero was a mistake born of lies and treason

which also perfectly describes the imperium lol

[final spruce]

No, it was born of Russ being happy to kill his brother because he didn't call his psyker wolf priests

[distant harness]

ya russ was pretty at fault for that lol

[plush mason]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f4IZO6tiRKo

[final spruce]

Remember when Space Wolves psykers weren't taken in account during Nikea because Russ called them Rune-Priests that commune with spirits and definitly didn't use the warp ?

[plush mason]

Do you remember what you said to me, brother? Do you remember what you said to me as we fought before the Pyramid of Photep? Do you remember the words you used? I do. As I recall, your face was tortured. Imagine that - the Master of the Wolves, his ferocity twisted into grief. And yet you still carried out your duty. You always did what was asked of you. So loyal. So tenacious. Truly you were the attack dog of the Emperor. You took no pleasure in what you did. I knew that then, and I know it now. But all things change, my brother. I'm not the same as I was, and you're... well, let us not mention where you are now." - magnus the red

that doesnt sound like a happy kinkiller

@final spruce @distant harness i guess you 2 forgot about this passage

[final spruce]

Yes, but this doesn't excuse the trial of Nikea

[distant harness]

bro he got the planet, attacked them, read out the censure and then went full "burn prospero" after an hour with no response lol

didn't check for technical issues, didn't check with psykers or ask valdor his opinion

hell, he actually completely ignored valdor, who was telling him to wait longer

[plush mason]

i mean Russ was nothing if not impulsive

as i said it was a mistake

[distant harness]

dude threw a tantrum and ignored an order from the emperor because magnus didn't text back fast enough

[final spruce]

Because he was busy evacuating civilians

[open marsh]

Even worse. He wasn't even texting the right number

[final spruce]

If I remember right

[distant harness]

based russ has the emotional maturity of a 14 year old in their first relationship

[plush mason]

well the thousand sons have their revenge

[distant harness]

like magnus even dispersed his own fleet instead of fighting them in space lmao, russ was just a complete moron and ignored all common sense

[plush mason]

afaik fenrus burns as prospero did

[distant harness]

including the advice of probably the single most experienced military commander in the whole galaxy

actually, how old is valdor at that point 🤔

he's a bit before unification era right?

[final spruce]

Yes

Since the Custodes had to do the TW dirty

And Valdor was there

[distant harness]

so he's probably 1-2k years old at that point, at least?

[plush mason]

btw how did that battle go?

did magnus win or does fenrus still stand?

[final spruce]

How does that change the burning of Prospero ?

Ofc Magnus would get his revenge for this

[distant harness]

man I thought you were asking about the thunder warriors thing lol

[plush mason]

no i know how that ended

[distant harness]

also was kind of a win for both

[plush mason]

?

[distant harness]

fenris was defended, but chaos fucked up some important stuff too

[plush mason]

still no russ?

[distant harness]

magnus wasn't really trying to destroy fenris anyway

no russ

[plush mason]

when will he and the 13th finally get thier hariy asses out of the warp?

when GW when

[distant harness]

years ago?

[final spruce]

When they stop stalling the setting

[distant harness]

I dunno how you missed the 13th black crusade, the rift, the invasion of terra, guilliman coming back and the indomitus crusade lmao

[final spruce]

Yeah and what next now ?

Wasn't the Plague wars almsot 1 year ago ?

[distant harness]

I dunno, they were doing elf shit for a while but that's been dropped

[final spruce]

What about the Ynnari ?

[distant harness]

probably spooky robots I guess

[crisp heath]

russ seems to me like he was... generally well meaning but kind of dumb and a dick

immature and hot-headed

[distant harness]

yeah russ was loyal, he's just a fucking idiot

[plush mason]

the thing is

[distant harness]

can't recall who it is that calls him out on his "Oh I was merely pretending to be a barbarian" shit either, but that was solid

might have been valdor actually

[plush mason]

i have not read any books about warhammer

and is the 13th black crusade really over?

already

[final spruce]

The Fall of Cadia was 3 years ago

[plush mason]

damn

[final spruce]

November 2017

[distant harness]

it's mostly stalled out, not sure it's fully over but was defeated in a few key areas

mostly just worked to create the rift and give chaos a proper foothold

[plush mason]

so its looking like once again failbaddon the harmless lives up to his meme name

[final spruce]

Thing is it changes the setting in a decent way

You got one side that is Noblebright and the other that is grimdark

But nothing is really done

[distant harness]

I feel like the 13th was a success overall

[final spruce]

It was in the end

[distant harness]

not like they were ever going to burn the imperium off a single crusade, splitting the galaxy in half and destroying cadia is pretty huge

[final spruce]

They managed their objective

[plush mason]

i mean technicly all of abby's crusades where a success

but then abby also set his stratigic goal for all of them as "destory the entire imperium"

[final spruce]

he managed to set half of it on fire

That's a pretty good result in my opinion

[distant harness]

you don't get khorne dudes to follow you by setting realistic goals

[final spruce]

Or unite Chaos for that matter

[distant harness]

plus lying to them all makes tzeentch like you

it's win win

[plush mason]

true

i mean he is in all honesty a better warmaster than horus ever could have been

i just wish he would give up on the whole "i dont follow chaos its just a tool i use" cuz its just a fat ass lie

he is like horus before him just the king on the gods chest board

[crisp heath]

Hes just being tsundere

[distant harness]

now that's something that needs fanart

[crisp heath]

I dont believe there isn't any

[open marsh]

To be fair. It's taken him centuries (from his perspective) to do something even close to what Horus had done in a mere 9 years

[plush mason]

yeah

[distant harness]

ya there's so much 40k art out there there's no way that's a new idea lol

[plush mason]

what?

[distant harness]

response to liecht

[plush mason]

wtf does tsundere mean?

[open marsh]

Japanese character stereotype of someone who acts like a dick towards someone they like because they are too akward to be honest

[plush mason]

oh

i mena its more he is lying to himself that he isnt a pawn but deep down he knows he is

[open marsh]

Oh deff

[final spruce]

He thinks he isn't a puppet awww

[plush mason]

which is a classic antagonist character stereotype

[final spruce]

I mean 40k is a classic at this point

[plush mason]

ofc it is

[final spruce]

They invented the trope of grimdark after all

[plush mason]

so has the rift effected the nid's hivemind any?

[barren tapir]

Yes, they developed a hive fleet that hunt anyone that follow chaos

[plush mason]

really?

[barren tapir]

https://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Kronos

[plush mason]

iirc the nids didnt like attacking chaos

not enough biomass to make it worth it

[barren tapir]

Demons cannot be munched, so yes, they try to avoid them when possible, but with the cicatrix maledictum forming and the other warp rift getting bigger it is always more difficult

[plush mason]

oh shit

the hivefleet i get to command in battlefleet gothic 2 is one of those liviathon tindrels that clear the way for kronos

tbh i doubt the dark gods factored the nids into their plans

even tho the nids pose the greatist threat to them

lets face facts

the nids have the whole galaxy surrounded

[barren tapir]

If not surrounded they sure cover a great part of it

[plush mason]

afaik all the hivefleets have enterd from different parts of it so yeah

and i doubt the hive fleets we have seen are the end of them

there is over 100 galaxies in the milkyway cluster

the nids might have eatten all of them

there is no number big enough to count them if that is the case

[barren tapir]

Or maybe not, they should have got the message that there was food from the pharos, but AFAIK it is the astronomican that is still luring them

[plush mason]

also about that

how the hell did the nids hear it from billions apon billions of lightyears away?

[barren tapir]

And if you believe some theories they nids already swept the galaxy in the past eras

[plush mason]

i can see that

many death worlds show signs of tyranid seeding

[barren tapir]

Catachan and fenris are two, also a report which isn't really reliable, even by imperial standard, seems to suggest a fight between a titans legion and a xeno foes that show both appearance and bioweapons to the nids

[dull flame]

"Far beyond the fringes of the galaxy there was naught but endless black. Past the last few stray stars plying their lonely track through the cold night, past the dead worlds and the fragments of galactic collisions billions of years gone, past the probes sent out by extinct races recorded in no history… past all that and beyond, there was a night sea studded with the diamond islands of distant, lonely galaxies.

Though incomprehensibly vast, this sea was not empty. Great behemoths of the deep lurked there. Into the eternal blackness, a flash of quantum energy shone out at many times the speed of light; a brief flare, milliseconds in duration, projecting from an unremarkable spiral of stars. It was not missed.

In the darkness, something of limitless hunger stirred in a slumber that had lasted for aeons. A million frozen and unblinking eyes saw the flash, tripping cascades of stimuli. Their purpose served, the eyes died. The entity processed the message the eyes provided without ever truly awakening. Automatically, instinctively, its gargantuan, dreaming mind analysed the signal, comparing it against all parameters for the one thing it sought.

Prey.

Slowly, glacially, the great devourer shifted its course." - Pharos by Guy Haley

The Tyranids may have stayed out there in the dark if the Pharos device wasn't blown up.

[plush mason]

damn

is that quote online anywhere?

[dull flame]

https://www.reddit.com/r/40kLore/comments/82ydyh/book_excerpt_pharos_epilogue_something_wakes_up/

I found it here. Never read the book yet

Someone turned the lamp on for the briefest of moments but the moths noticed.

Then Szarekh after leaving the galaxy had to do a u-turn and head back after running into the approaching hive fleets.

[plush mason]

a moment was all it needed

yeah the nids are the most grimdark thing in 40k

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xWutrVCkbpA&list=RDlT2g2JywF2g

[dull flame]

"It is the Silent King's current wish that the younger races' flawed attempts to destroy the Tyranids do not simply feed the hive fleets beyond the point where even a united Necron people have any hope of victory. " Inquisitor Kryptman laughs while sending the Tyranids after the Orks

[plush mason]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_iRwdfZw5y0

i still wonder what the hivemind would sound like if it could talk

wait

is every use of the astranomica just another ring of the dinner bell for the nids?

[dull flame]

I don't think it matters. They're aware there's life in the galaxy now so they'd keep coming regardless. Though tendrils are trying to get to Terra too.

[plush mason]

that will be a fun day

and i still cant get over how dark and true they got with the nids

it really is the perfect predetor

uses its prey's own nature aginst it

[dull flame]

"The Imperial scholars were wrong. The hive mind knew. The hive mind thought, it felt, it hated and it desired. Its emotions were unutterably alien, cocktails of feeling not even the subtle aeldari might decipher. Its emotions were oceans to the puddles of a man’s feelings. They were inconceivable to humanity, for they were too big to perceive.

The hive mind looked out of its innumerable eyes towards the dull red star of Baal. It apprehended that this was the hive of the warriors that had hurt it so grievously, who had burned its feeding grounds and scattered its fleets. It hated the red prey, and it coveted them. Tasting their exotic genomes it had seen potential for new and terrible war beasts.

And so it drew its plans, and it set in motion its trillion trillion bodies towards the consumption of the creatures in red metal, so that their secrets might be plundered, and reemployed in the sating of the hive mind’s endless hunger. This was deliberate, considered, and done in malice.

The hive mind was aware, and it desired vengeance." - The Devastation of Baal by Guy Haley

[plush mason]

i know now which 40k books i will read first

[dull flame]

Devastation of Baal is such a good book. 10/10 would recommend

[distant harness]

it's incredible to me how consistently solid haley is with how fast he writes

[plush mason]

his words have power almost

[distant harness]

man puts out like 3-4 novels a year and still has great shit like that in them

[dull flame]

Guy Haley, Dan Abnett, ADB, Sandy Mitchell, John French and Chris Wraight. ❤️

[plush mason]

i can already tell i could lose hours in Haley's books

just these few paragraphs have pulled me in

[distant harness]

Rachel Harrison and Peter Fehervari have some pretty good stuff too

yeah Haley is like that, his books are so easy to read

not surprising he gets asked to do like half the event related shit in 40k lmao

[dull flame]

My first Haley book was Baneblade and I was hooked immediately to his writing.

[distant harness]

it's just the speed I find insane with him, how he puts out books like that in a couple of months is just beyond me

[dull flame]

And then Devastation of Baal, Dark Imperium and Plague War came out.

[distant harness]

guy's an absolute freak lol

[dull flame]

Actually he did just put out a new Blood Angels book in November. I haven't gotten to it yet since I'm reading Watchers of the Throne atm

https://www.blacklibrary.com/warhammer-40000/novels/darkness-in-the-blood-ebook-2020.html

[storm jungle]

oh god

no wait this isnt the book where Mephiston goes full Jojo nevermind

[ashen zenith]

if krieg is the ww1 regiment whats the ww2 inspired regiment ?

[rotund siren]

Cadians?

I think it's kinda spread out

some have parts of WW2 stuff in them

[plush mason]

the steel legions of armaggedon

[rotund siren]

Ah yes, absolutely

how could I have forgotten

[ashen zenith]

:o

[storm jungle]

well its fanart but

Theres a really cool regiment I saw called the Baston's Tyrants

[plush mason]

its the damn army rangers

[ashen zenith]

i dont think it counts but thx

[storm jungle]

i did say "fanart" lmao

but yeah np

[barren tapir]

Steel legions are WW2 inspired, i would say mostly by germans armed force, with a focus on fallschimjaegers

[thick shadow]

The bottom one who lying down is woman and I like it

[crisp heath]

armageddon steel legion kinda is

they have some ww1 elements too

[celest dome]

Armageddon Steel Legion is based on the German Motorized corps in Africa iirc
Krieger are the Verdun Battle (German and French equipement)

[plush mason]

RIP jurondus

[celest dome]

Who ?

[plush mason]

it was a hive city that rebelled

the death korps shelled it for 10 years

[storm jungle]

What a waste

lol

[celest dome]

Sound like Vrack

[plush mason]

everything was dead in the city the last 2 years

[celest dome]

Other Real life inspired regiment are in example:
Elysian->British SAS
Harrakoni->American Para
Vostroya->Tsarist Russia
Valhalan->Soviet Union
Cattachan->Generic Action Film

Tallarn->Laurence of Arabia
Preatorian->British Collonial Troop

[plush mason]

and the iron guard is a glorified PDF

[crisp heath]

sabaton made a song about lawrence of arabia

so on the off chance you play tallarn

you have something to blast

[plush mason]

i love sabaton

[final spruce]

Nice

[plush mason]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W89_lwnql_M

why no one has made a 40k tribute video with one of their songs yet i will never know

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dV824bKGiTU

nvm found one

[celest dome]

That's from my home

[plush mason]

the band or the song?

[celest dome]

The theme

or subject

[plush mason]

so your belgian

[celest dome]

Aye, Ardennian/Areler, like not far from the training place of the Ardennian Hunter

[crisp heath]

someone pls make a Steel Legion one with Ghost Division

[plush mason]

omg yes

so much yes

and or death korps with attack of the dead men

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=09K2Zpx8B5w

[celest dome]

Wasn't that Russian or Polish garrison against German force though ?

[crisp heath]

i found a whole black metal album for dkok

[plush mason]

yes but the whole "dead men attacking again" thing fits cuz in the minds of the kriegsmen they are all already dead

[crisp heath]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O5eIj2ePC5E just listen to this. just that bm is not good for music videos bc no one will sit through an 8 minute video of that

[plush mason]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ij6fmz4VOsI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8wYLhYI6asM

[crisp heath]

less sm, more IG please

[plush mason]

agreed

actualy ill do you one better

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VFAo3a2D3So

[atomic pelican]

There's something ver ypowerful about the windows moviemaker intro slides

Oh boy when was this made

[plush mason]

5 years ago

[atomic pelican]

Oh only 2015

wow this gave me like

2009 vibes dang

[plush mason]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_iRwdfZw5y0

this is the best nid song on youtude

i love this song so much

i just have it on a loop

[open marsh]

@cloud kindle Also what was cool was seeing the Minotaurs absolutely show up the Imperial Fists

[cloud kindle]

The phalanx just needs repairs

And more people on it

Lots more

[open marsh]

Its mentioned the Custodes are helping them repair it

[cloud kindle]

Yup

[open marsh]

And the Imperial Fists do have more hands aboard. They recruited alot of former Cadian Guardsmen into the ranks of the Auric Auxilia

[cloud kindle]

Custodes are using some tech from thr dark cells to repair it

[plush mason]

more food for the nom

[cloud kindle]

But if i recall the custodes have left some people on the phalanx just in case it gets captured

[open marsh]

Yep

[plush mason]

just extra strength proten bars

[vapid sentinel]

Where can I read about that?

[open marsh]

Watchers of the Throne: The Regeant's Shadow

[vapid sentinel]

Thanks

[kindred dune]

yes

[open marsh]

Know what would be cool? If it turns out that the Dark Angels still make that rudimentary power armour that the Order used to use on Caliban, and issue it to their combat serfs

[vapid sentinel]

Cool idea but I think gw has already forgotten that this was something In there lore

[storm jungle]

as they do with everything

[crisp heath]

i want dark angels stylized more like actual knights and hussars

[open marsh]

I found more art of the Caliban power armour ❤️

From the Horus Heresy Legions card game

[vast frigate]

Oh nice

I hope they keep most of this stuff canon, it looks so good

[open marsh]

UNFORTUNATELY

This is the Caliban Imperial Army regiment

MORE FUCKING CADIANS

[cerulean wagon]

i mean

its not cabians

its just the same uniform

its kinda in the name

see how it says caliban instead of cadia

[open marsh]

Thats the problem

[cerulean wagon]

i mean

its a common uniform

[final spruce]

Ah yes the CADIAN PATTERN FLAK ARMOUR

[cerulean wagon]

across the galaxy

[final spruce]

🤣