Probably rescued. Idk why theyd do anything else short of something like chaos corruption/GSC infection involved
#40k-lore-chat
atomic pelican
crisp heath
prob rescued and relocated afaik thats what happened to cadians
thin horizon
I always figured Cadians were a dying race like the Tanith and were just fighting to the last now.
Then again, I also find Cadians extremely boring
Which would explain my misconceptions
storm jungle
Well they arent really dying
regiments are hereditary, as long as they keep popping babies and growing them up they wont really run out of men
rotund siren
Yeah, unless you end up with something like the Brontians Longknives
multiple regiments all grouped together as clans to make 1 whole
atomic pelican
Theres also like, a bajillion cadians, even now I think
rotund siren
true
potent swift
Or they could pull a Krieg and just stay there and deal with it.
rotund siren
via the magic of underground hive cities and vat-grown soldiers
potent swift
Forgeworld Lucius pulled something similar after winning a war of attrition against Tyarnids, so their in welcome company.
rotund siren
I mean, Lucius won handedly, in like, 5 years or something
because they just kept sending out servitors, bringing the parts back, and sending out more servitors
The Tyranids basically starved
which I guess is a war of attrition, but it's just not the same
potent swift
I just realized I had it backwards. Lucius is hollow and they were down there in the first place and not because of Nids.
open marsh
Hey guys, I just learned about two IG regiments that use power armour
odd sparrow
it does make some sense. It isn't like power armour is unheard of for elite infantry formations in other armies
final spruce
Very elite guardsmen then
rotund siren
so what are the regiments?
open marsh
The officers in the Scintillan Fusiliers sometimes wear Lidhl Light Power armour
And the Arkan Confederates' Steamblood Zouaves wear Stormsuit pattern power armour
The stormsuit is interesting to me, the way its described makes me think of those Alpha-class Big Daddies in Bioshock 2. With arm mounted weaponry (a heavy stubber at the end of one arm, and either a drill or buzzsaws on the other)
final spruce
Oh, I though you mean like evrybody using power armor
But yes, command squad, officers and elite do soemtimes wear power armor
plucky moth
you're telling me in the 41st millennium, I could buy power armour from LIDL
final spruce
I mean litteraly all the SoB use light power armor
odd sparrow
Yeah but it would be off brand, unlabelled and possibly explosive
final spruce
And most tech-priests
odd sparrow
yee. My understanding is it's less power armour is so rare that almost nobody can afford it! and more most formations in 40k aren't tactically valuable enough to justify such expensive equipment
open marsh
Yeah but it would be off brand, unlabelled and possibly explosive
in 40k, thats still worth the extra protection
final spruce
Yeah, power armor even light is fucking good
crisp heath
you're telling me in the 41st millennium, I could buy power armour from LIDL
Forgeworld Mars week
open marsh
yee. My understanding is it's less *power armour is so rare that almost nobody c...
Yeah, pretty much. Like the Steambloods are all extremely wealthy nobles and even then the suits are treasured family heirlooms. Much of their wealth goes into repairs and maintance of their armour
crisp heath
i mean not even all inquisitors wear them
open marsh
Yeah Im fine with just elites using power armour in the IG. Its just for the longest time I didnt know that any IG used it and that bothered me
Because there are extremely wealthy planets that would be able to afford atleast a few suits of power armour]
Also the Steambloods also have what is basically a type of Terminator armour. A far bulkier, more armoured, but slower variant of Stormsuit called a Thundersuit
final spruce
It used to be something in older editions
open marsh
Got more examples?
final spruce
You could for an amount of point buy a power armor for your commander
the closest things IG gets to power armor now is the Deathmask
final spruce
rotund siren
that's equivalent to power armor?!
final spruce
I meant rule wise
final spruce
Closest we get now is the Tempestus carapace armor
Some of your units do have power armor but its only the engiseer
Maybe the crusaders but I think they are using something else
Nope not even the crussies
open marsh
Some of your units do have power armor but its only the engiseer
I dont really count engineseers as they are more attached the a regiment, not part of the regiment itself
final spruce
So yeah nope, no power armor
Only people that attach themselves like Engiseers and Inquisitors get those
open marsh
Unless you are a scintillan fusilier officer or a Steamblood Zouaver
final spruce
Lore wise yes
open marsh
I want to see if there are more IG power armour examples
open marsh
?
The scintillan fusilier example is from Dark Heresy, and the Steamblood example is from the novel Fire Caste
open marsh
Ooof, only source is only war ?
?
final spruce
I was checking the sources and it was only noted Only War for the fusillers
So no wonder I don't know'em, its one of the ttrpg I didn't check for 40k
open marsh
They arent a big regiment and they dont do much
They are basically as opposite of catachans as you can get
Or opposite of Death Korp of Krieg
The Scintillan get the easiest lowest risk jobs
final spruce
It's understandable
Your average IG can't equip power armor because of their massive balls that would get in the way
open marsh
kek
ashen zenith
I wonder if a human psyker army is possible, like if the imperium somehow managed to create a (better) system to train and control psykers to the point you could have entire psyker regiments
potent swift
Considering the awakening, that's quickly becoming a reality
Whether they want it to or not
ashen zenith
I guess there already is a full psyker power armoured army but
open marsh
?
ashen zenith
The grey knights
ashen zenith
Good edit
knotty cove
they're derived from humanity, but they're not the same thing
open marsh
The grey knights
They are different. They arent at risk of suddenly becoming screaming, mutating lunatic, or just going pop and a tear in reality bursting open allowing hordes of immaterial monstrosities to pour into reality
odd sparrow
yee hence the but
open marsh
revs drill arm on his Stormsuit
ashen zenith
Wait have psykers ever been used as weapons?
open marsh
Wait have psykers ever been used as weapons?
Uh, yeah
ashen zenith
That sounds like something possible
Like covertly inserting a psyker in the middle of an enemy planet and inducing demonic possesion
open marsh
The forces of chaos use unstable psykers as essentially walking vortex grenades. warp powered suicide bombers
ashen zenith
Yea I guess the imperium wouldnt want to intentionally summon demons
odd sparrow
There's nonsensical stuff like psi-titans or whatever they were called, which literally use psykers as ammunition to fuel its weaponry
so ye it's def something GW has explored
dull flame
ashen zenith
Wasnt it more like they used them as ammo
open marsh
Silence, biomass
odd sparrow
Gaunts are just hell yea fuck that techpriest up fuck yea talk shit get vaporised
odd sparrow
kinda cute tbh
ashen zenith
Commission some
odd sparrow
^
dull flame
I want more of the unique guard regiments to take center stage like the Maccabian Janissaries
open marsh
A. Im broke. Might do that if I can ever find a solid job, rn i dont even have enough to pay rent.
B. That would still just be fanwork. I want official art
odd sparrow
bold of you to assume black library isn't just sanctioned fanfiction and fanart
ashen zenith
Is there ever a description of the armour or is it just mentioned?
open marsh
The book goes over the armour frequently
ashen zenith
Well then maybe the artist could make a good depiction if it's well described in the book even as fanart
If you get the money
open marsh
He saw Captain Machen stomping onto the deck at the head of his command squad. In his Thundersuit the man looked like a vast iron crab that had reared up to walk on its hind legs. Under its elegantly moulded carapace the suit was an industrial masterwork of spinning cogs and pistons that clattered and hissed in perfect harmony, almost drowning out the stirring chords of ‘Providence Endures’ booming from its brass shoulder speakers. A heavy stubber was fixed to one ironclad paw, the ammo belt coiling into a fluted dispenser on the back, while the other ended in a massive drill inscribed with the ‘Testament of the Founding Fathers’. The captain’s crew - cut head was visible through the thick glass porthole of his baroque helmet.
Each Zouave possessed a unique, customised suit, but they were mostly variants of the smaller Stormsuit template and none of them possessed anything like Machen’s monstrosity.
With an agonised whine something crunched into her back plate. She lurched round and flailed out with her fusion blaster, but her attacker deflected the swipe with a spiky vambrace. He was wearing a baroque iron battlesuit that was the antithesis of her sleek, minimalist machine.
‘Thrusters!’ he ordered, triggering the repulsion jet on his back. The Stormsuits didn’t carry true jetpacks, but the single use rockets were enough to cushion their fall.
Grinning fiercely he fired up the buzz saws attached to his wrists and tore into the rebels, hacking a blind path through the choking, flailing mob.
ashen zenith
This man walking around the deck playing music from his armour? Alpha af
open marsh
Well yeah, he was the commander of the Steambloods
Another one does it later:
Their remaining Steamblood knight had locked his armoured legs, transforming himself into a sturdy firing platform. His massive heavy stubber was blazing away, raking the canopy with a steady stream of high velocity rounds and spilling out a cascade of spent shells. Martial music blared from his shoulder speakers in accompaniment to his amplified bellowing.
potent swift
I keep picturing Khadoran Man o' Wars in my head.
open marsh
As far as I am aware they only appear in the novel Fire Caste
dull flame
Dive Suit Astartes who build their fortress monastery underwater on some stormy ocean world? Hell yes, please. I know it's not real but I want it
potent swift
I'd be totally down for Warhammer: Terror from the Deep
ashen zenith
That makes me wonder if water battleships are still a thing
If for atleast planetary defence forces
dull flame
Yeah some planets have navies.
I think Armageddon may have had a small naval force but the Orks wiped them out to build their ships to invade across the ocean
potent swift
Actually, hold on. There's a Space Marine chapter called the Dark Krakens who live on a mostly ocean world where they hunt sea monsters. Granted, their fortress-monastery is on the only landmass but still.
open marsh
I'd be totally down for Warhammer: Terror from the Deep
I can imagine thats what the Stormsuits look like, tho they arent meant for underwater
Just then the Zouave had come careening down the aisle, all out of control. He caught Toomy’s head with an iron boot as he flew past and it was a miracle he hadn’t kicked it clean off! There were no miracles left for the knight though. Joyce had seen his eyes through his visor as he flew past and they were wide with a surprise that was bigger than fear. And then he was gone, tumbling over the stern gunwale like a scrap metal bird. They’d heard him splash into the ocean a heartbeat behind the boat, but nobody had tried to do anything. Even a greencap like Joyce knew the iron man must have sunk like a stone.
dull flame
open marsh
eldar
storm jungle
Eldar? Never heard of em.
rotund siren
Good, because if you went off about them again, I would get the leeches
barren tapir
IIRC the space wolves once conducted underwater war, i think against the tau... The steamblood sound like a steampunk regiments...
hardy apex
I'd be totally down for Warhammer: Terror from the Deep
These suits remind me of the Solar Auxilia
plush mason
the what?
hardy apex
A step up from the normal Imperial Army
In terms of their training and such, I believe it is stated somewhere that they are basically the best of the best, second only to astartes
plush mason
i love they gave them the name auxilia
cuz the roman ones where just ash and trash from the conquered lands mostly
hardy apex
I do love how the Solar Auxilia have Storm Sections dedicated to melee, specifically with two-handed Power Axes
rotund siren
That is pretty sick
hardy apex
if only they were Kriegers with two-handed Power shovels
plush mason
as funny as it is the kriegers do actual keep their combat knifes strapped to thier entrenching tools
hardy apex
Nice
plush mason
ofc they also use a cutless bayoent at times lol
storm jungle
I think my favorite thing about them is how they're basically 80's parody of space troopers
Big helmets, valves, pipe-looking guns, etc
hardy apex
Yeah, I see the similarities
I actually ordered a Veletaris Storm section off Forgeworld
the 10 man squad of volkite chargers
crisp heath
i didn't even know the solar auxilia existed until i saw P of them
open marsh
Shash'Vre Je'kor: ....what is that drone doing?
Shash'La Shi'li: His best....
ashen zenith
theoretically speaking, whats the brazil of the imperium?
open marsh
Yes
open marsh
On the IG power armour. I know it won't happen for Darktide because OP. But imagine playing the game essentially as Subject Delta from Bioshock
celest dome
Maybe we will get Rosette and other energy/active shield
thick shadow
I do love how the Solar Auxilia have Storm Sections dedicated to melee, specific...
TWO HANDED POWER AXE?! AND EVEN FOR NORMAL HUMIES?! 👏 🙏 🛐
celest dome
Most of the Astartes weapon (And most CAstartes) are also available to Normal Human (Exemption being Frost Weapon of the SW)
open marsh
Yeah. Astartes just use scaled up versions
Tho Im not sure I've seen regular human sized grav weapons
celest dome
Mostly due to GW having a heavy bias toward the SM
open marsh
GW heavily biased in favor of SM at the detriment of all other factions? Nnnaaaawwwww
celest dome
who would think that ?
Like someone was saying on the FS forum that the Chain sword we saw in the Gameplay trailer wasn't a Chainsword since it didn't have the right shape (see picture)
thick shadow
Most of the Astartes weapon (And most CAstartes) are also available to Normal Hu...
Oh, there's no frost weapon for normal human?
open marsh
Like someone was saying on the FS forum that the Chain sword we saw in the Gamep...
....wat
celest dome
Oh, there's no frost weapon for normal human?
Yes but also No
GW said that the tech is lost and that the SW have the last batch of Frost Sword
But they know how to make them
thick shadow
Like someone was saying on the FS forum that the Chain sword we saw in the Gamep...
Chadpas Cain
celest dome
Because GW doesn't know how to remember things
open marsh
But they know how to make them
Same way combi-plasmas are supposedly super rare relics....yet Astartes tech marines know how to make them
knotty cove
"uhhHHHhhhh Cawl"
- GW
celest dome
And it's very fun to read all the wiki since they will contradict themselves from one line to the other
thick shadow
GW...
knotty cove
Same way combi-plasmas are supposedly super rare relics....yet Astartes tech mar...
That's their official stance on this fact.
celest dome
Unfortunately, with the death of the revered and ancient Iron Priest, the secret of his techniques in the blade's forging were lost to the Chapter for all time
Today, each Frost Blade and Frost Axe is considered amongst the most prized weapons of the Chapter and is crafted by a master Iron Priest.
thick shadow
thick shadow
I bet it was a Psychic were used!
knotty cove
Probably not
celest dome
~~I bet it was a Psychic were used!~~
Wolf spirits
thick shadow
Wolf... all is wolf...
open marsh
And I'm over here fanboying over badass power armour clad IG
thick shadow
And at this point, it is rather make Space Wolves as wolf-men. Like a beastmen does.
I will be back with examples.
thick shadow
Nah, Wulfen is a level of the movie Cats, whch is cringe as much as possible!
open marsh
Dude wants full on werewolf furry marines
plucky moth
There are 2 wolves inside you; you’re a Dark Eldar
thick shadow
Well, at least their legs are digitigrade.
open marsh
Yeah. They got dem pawbs
thick shadow
Dude wants full on werewolf furry marines
open marsh
celest dome
Wolfdawgart is such a great artist
open marsh
Yeah and now I REALLY want to see such a mutated Khornite Space Wolf
Like maybe they bring Svane Vulfbad back and he looks like that
celest dome
There was an artwork of a Custom Thousand Sons Warband where they had the head of Jackals [Sons of Seths or something]
thick shadow
That is what I looking for
open marsh
Nah. I want the Red Wolf of Khorne
celest dome
You went through the Gate of Morkai
thick shadow
Like a diaper, extreme fat, bulged belly, etc...
celest dome
open marsh
Like a diaper, extreme fat, bulged belly, etc...
stop
thick shadow
Now I need to shower in holy fire
open marsh
Hit a Thunderhammer with your face until your mind is cleansed of these thoughts
thick shadow
Hit a Thunderhammer with your face until your mind is cleansed of these thoughts
I'll try
So anyway
thick shadow
Like in this image
A skin wolf in Astares armour, and not chaos.
That was what I looking for exactly.
※A skin wolf from Warhammer Fantasy.
I hope it is good enough for imagine what it is.
open marsh
I am in agreement
barren tapir
Solar auxilia is indeed nice, they were kinda special forces, and fully capable to fight and win against SM... As far as i know there are no true counterpart in the 41th millennium as yet, but their "return" may be the primaris IG...
One of the best quotes i read was from them...
"Everyone became a hero, when there is no place to run" or something along these lines... I think they were the only part of the imperial army that actively conquered planets instead of being more support or garrison directed
celest dome
Lord Solar Macharius also had a great bunch of Imperial Guard Regiment
vapid sentinel
Primaris IG is that real?
final spruce
Not really, althought at first its what I thought of the Tempestus
vapid sentinel
Ah okay. Not that IG couldn’t need some kind of upgrade now that the lasgun was nerfed
final spruce
cries in IG
hardy apex
TWO HANDED POWER AXE?! AND EVEN FOR NORMAL HUMIES?! 👏 🙏 🛐
Yes, bc they awesome
final spruce
Those guys really do look like they are wearing Protector gear
hardy apex
Their armour be Void armour
final spruce
Good to know my knowledge of 30k is lacking
hardy apex
basically carapace armour tuned to be used in void combat
thick shadow
Powered too?
barren tapir
Yes
final spruce
Carapace armor isn't power armor but it sometimes needs to be powered if it includes items like auspecs
Or data slates
barren tapir
Well, yes, powered in the sense it has power source
For powered exoskeleton or something similar there was the G9K division i think
barren tapir
There weren't the common soldier tough
They were elite
Probably even more elite than 41th tempestus scions
Also their tactical unit was the tercio... Those that ring any bell?
thick shadow
It isn't sure that it enhancing their strength way of powered. But damn, the armour it self can repairing it self!
A space combat suit!
barren tapir
Yeah, it is not a power armour, but it sin't even a simple piece of material that you put between you and the enemy
hardy apex
If you were to put it into a 40k RPG perspective, Carapace is 6 AP, Astartes is 8, so this would sit at 7 or is still at 6 but with additional perks
thick shadow
Less than Astartes, but still elites of elites.
hardy apex
Probably even more elite than 41th tempestus scions
I count them as more elite than the Tempestus Scions in terms of weaponry, while the Scions have a much higher degree of training on their side
thick shadow
Just right under the Astartes, it seems.
final spruce
I mean Tempestus gets one of the best training available
It would be hard to do above
thick shadow
Time to biologically improve them
barren tapir
The veletaris sections were considered inferior only to the SM, we should also take in consideration that they were used in a different manner than tempestus scions
Solar Auxilia soldiers were not only trained as infantrymen but also for space combat, combat engineering, planetary exploration, and Death World survival missions.
From lexicanum
final spruce
Well I've been shown multiple times that Lexi tends to forget to add news lore
thick shadow
Damn
barren tapir
Well I've been shown multiple times that Lexi tends to forget to add news lore
Eh, i would say that that is the warhammer 40K wiki
final spruce
Not really
hardy apex
Yes, I did read the lexicanum, but in terms of actual training, I still believe Scions received a higher level of training
final spruce
I've ahd multiple examples of Lexicanum being alcking
barren tapir
Yes, I did read the lexicanum, but in terms of actual training, I still believe ...
Oh, yes, i wasn't trying to say that they get more training
hardy apex
Fair enough
final spruce
Like them still mentionning that Primaris don't have the gene weakness of their chapters but Primaris Death Companies are a thing and so are Wulfen Primaris
barren tapir
Just that they got to cover different roles
final spruce
Yeah, Tempestus are more of a deep strike , reco and infiltration unit
They are used to be dropped by full speed valks
thick shadow
Primari wolf furries...
final spruce
Or even being deepstriked by the stratosphere only using their armor and a protective skin to ignore the heat caused by entering atmopshere
thick shadow
Didn't fixed for "political" reason.
hardy apex
They are used to be dropped by full speed valks
As highlighted by certain tabletop lists which involve rapid plasma assaults
final spruce
Or Lexi not mentionning that a decent bunch of the skitarri are vat-grown, like mentionned in8th edition Admech codex
thick shadow
Cawl does scheme
final spruce
I know its what i used to do Vexi
Until special detachments were banned
Goodbye Basilisks firing twice
barren tapir
Boooohh banning special detachments when allowing SM chapters
thick shadow
Vat-grown?
final spruce
I mean Marines also got their special detachments banned
Everybody had with 9th edition since the books were ruled out of tournament play
thick shadow
Goodbye Basilisks firing twice
No... not like this!
Mixed army were so good then...
final spruce
But yes Sla, vat-grown skitarii
thick shadow
barren tapir
Also, anyone know of alpine like worlds?
final spruce
They like to do it aswell because it also means you can choose which genes you want in them
thick shadow
So, is the vat-grown is like cloning? Something like Krieg does?
plush mason
yes its the vitawombs iirc
barren tapir
Kinda
thick shadow
Growing/producing humies from the factory
thick shadow
||They vat grow people there||
Ah, I see. Thank you for making it clear.
plush mason
is it just out right cloning of an indivisual or is it taking gene from different people and grow a new person out of them?
thick shadow
And YET they still getting better gears than guards.
barren tapir
For skitarii i would say the second, the tech priest sometime like to get the best genes from their POV
thick shadow
POV?
barren tapir
While cloning is take a template and people printer go BBRRRRR
plush mason
point of view
plush mason
While cloning is take a template and people printer go BBRRRRR
like the jango clones in star wars
hardy apex
Btw, if you have played 40k Mechanicus, Skitarii still have emotion, and most high ranking priests actually treat them similar to Guardsmen, in terms of casualties
barren tapir
Like thousands of improved SM? Naaah those are just rumors
thick shadow
Well, they already getting better gears, so...
barren tapir
Btw, if you have played 40k Mechanicus, Skitarii still have emotion, and most hi...
Indeed, it all depend on the tech-priest that make them
hardy apex
Hilariously, the Skitarii Ranger Alpha that I use carries my team half the time XD
Just pop a servo skull on him and he’s everywhere killing most things and not getting hit
barren tapir
Skitarii rangers are the best IMO, but i'm all about range and precision soo
thick shadow
So, Mechanichum is not only on being "machine". They also care improving flesh itself too?
hardy apex
Yes, but not for themselves, as far as I know
barren tapir
Yes, the magos biologis, or genetors, study the flesh of living beings
The genetors do, instead of getting cybernetic they graft on them flesh implants
thick shadow
Good, but I still do not like those weird DaVinci wing things
hardy apex
If you want flesh improvements, then look to the Dark Eldar, Slaaneshi Flesh Shapers, and Illuminator Szeras
barren tapir
Those are ugly i agree
plush mason
ugh those things
plush mason
basicly if clan moulder where elves
thick shadow
Yes
hardy apex
I do enjoy Skaven
thick shadow
Me too
plush mason
same
plush mason
omg i did not think there where hellofaboss emotes yet
hardy apex
They’re the only thing I play in Total War, besides Balthasar, Karl Franz, and Grimgor
thick shadow
"You know why"
plush mason
ngl if hellhounds look like her..i might not actualy run away 😛
thick shadow
Same
But she needs to go hospital to fix her syphilis first
Or it will be a mixture of Nurgle and Slaanesh.
I can't even think about it.
plush mason
But she needs to go hospital to fix her syphilis first
its been confirmed that the whole syphilis thing was a joke
plush mason
not in the show the person making it said it
thick shadow
not in the show the person making it said it
You mean Vivze?
plush mason
yes
thick shadow
Seems like it was very resent. I can't find any of that on anywhere.
restive aurora
I am really disapointed there isn't a skitarii character in dark tide, really would shake things up
also, how do you pronounce it, skitar-e-eye like you do in latin with double is or skitar-e 🤔
thick shadow
Skeetahree for me
plush mason
also, how do you pronounce it, skitar-e-eye like you do in latin with double is ...
i just call them the temple guards
its what the word means
novel violet
I just call em 01001101 01100101 01100011 01101000 01100001 01101110 01101001 01100011 01100001 01101100 00100000 01010111 01100001 01110010 01110010 01101001 01101111 01110010 00100000 01010000 01100101 01101111 01110000 01101100 01100101
prime tide
I'm fascinated with lingua-technis
It's just such a cool idea
It's both a means of communication and data transfer through the noosphere
Anyways toaster good
Skin bad
slate gate
Have there been any non-chaos instances of the Obliterator virus?
potent swift
None that I'm aware off. It's a disease that originates from the Warp so I'm not sure a non-chaos instance of it is even possible.
open marsh
Yeah its a chaos-borne virus
crisp heath
What happened to the Fulgrim wife?
cunning lantern
I was surprised to read that Obliterator virus is from Khorne
open marsh
It makes you tougher and more killy. So makes sense
storm jungle
What happened to the Fulgrim wife?
What wife?
crisp heath
What wife?
Wasn't he married at some point ( like political marriage or something)
storm jungle
Yeah but its literally a single sentence thing lol
He says she died since he outlasted him if i remember correctly
potent swift
He was married multiple times while on Chemos
odd sparrow
tfw no slaaneshi prettyboy bf
open marsh
He says she died since he outlasted him if i remember correctly
yeah, in bed
odd sparrow
i highkey would not like to sleep with a primarch
idk the logstics there are quite troubling
open marsh
sangy has smallest pp, confirmed
atomic pelican
odd sparrow
is it wrong to thirst after godlike superhumans
barren tapir
Why join a primarch in bed when you can join one in the forge? You will learn how to make stuff and get buff at the same time
odd sparrow
I imagine vulkan as being ace tbh, like with dorn
odd sparrow
he'd absolutely be great for like, anything non sexual though yeah
final spruce
Dorn has had multiple wives
odd sparrow
big wholesome friendly hypeman
odd sparrow
yeah i imagine a primarch taking regular human partners is kinda like the whole new-pet-dog-mortality thing on crack
final spruce
Seems like even someone with the emotionnal availability of a concrete wall can have a lover, even if he is a primarch
odd sparrow
i wouldn't blame them for just avoiding it entirely tbh
final spruce
I mean Gulliman understood it
barren tapir
"emotionnal availability of a concrete wall"
This is amazing
final spruce
I love Dorn
crisp heath
idk man id let sanguinius eat this
odd sparrow
Rogal is the most handsome concrete wall
final spruce
But you gotta say the truth about the guy
crisp heath
plus
final spruce
crisp heath
wing hug
odd sparrow
if someone tries to convince you they wouldn't let sangy go down on them
literally lying
With any other primarch it can be a matter of taste but sangy is just objectively best boy
barren tapir
Do we know if sanguinus also had the red thirst?
odd sparrow
lord help me.
final spruce
I don't know
crisp heath
i wouldn't mind corax either
barren tapir
I mean, for sure that curse must have been in his genetic stuff
odd sparrow
Hm yeah corax wouldn't be so bad. Big goth energy but that's not a bad thing
final spruce
I mean you would have a chance of being ripped in 2
Corax was not very stable mentally
odd sparrow
wasn't he?
final spruce
And I do'nt blame him
barren tapir
He wasn't?
final spruce
Nah Corax is a chill dude
odd sparrow
Corax has many mental disorders but he's not especially violent
final spruce
And he is the good kind of edgy
odd sparrow
i would not interact with curze
barren tapir
Aaahhh... Corax is also a great philosopher
final spruce
I feel like Curze would have needed a non-nail Angron therapy session to even remotely feel better
Funnily however, Curze was one of the strongest duelists amongst primarchs
Imagine if he didn't let himself die and joined the siege on Terra
Oh boy
crisp heath
oh i would not do curze. the man doesn't look like he washes or shaves regularly enough
final spruce
Seems like he would, kind of hard to sneak around when people can smell you coming from a mile
open marsh
Know what would be a cool kinda of boss fight-like fight, maybe for later DLCs? Chaos Sisters of Battle
storm jungle
OWO
barren tapir
Obvious joke: BuT tHaT wOuLd Be ImPoSsIbLe! ThEy ArE uNcoRruPtAbLe
final spruce
I mean we have had the ones mind-controlled by a psyker in Cain's book, we got Sabatiel, an entire goddamn church in Daemonifuge's book
It happens
barren tapir
We also got the iconoclast
storm jungle
Obvious joke: BuT tHaT wOuLd Be ImPoSsIbLe! ThEy ArE uNcoRruPtAbLe
Beat me to the damn joke
final spruce
Harlots of chaos, what a refined name
Where does it come from though ? The artstyle is rpetty good
open marsh
Their are also those Nurgle possessed SoB zombies in Stern's new book
final spruce
Well those are zombies, the SoB's soul is now with Big E
final spruce
No that's Sabathiel
She even has the snake tongue
No, she has a snake tongue
Yes you heard me right, her tongue is a snake
I see you're horny
open marsh
No that's Sabathiel
final spruce
Yes that was supposed to be the joke
Lool at that lil snake
He thinks he is scary
open marsh
Hisster of Battle
odd sparrow
she snek
ashen zenith
Damn girl what that tongue do 😫 😫 😫 🥵
open marsh
dont
Spoilers for the Calgar comic, but the best example of what happens when you get hit by a bolter
vapid sentinel
That’s not a surprise for me
vapid sentinel
One would be enough to do that but hey if you have magic mags you can kill a guy with bullets for 4 🙂
final spruce
I think 1 would have been enough
plush mason
so about that
the bolter round might not be explosive
cuz a mass reactive bullet is a bullet that reacts to the hardness of its target
if it hit something soft it acts like a hollowpoint and if it hit something hard it acts like a fullmetal jacket round
open marsh
The way they use it in the lore is "mass reactive" (to them) means it doesnt explode until its penetrated the target
So instead of exploding on contact, its slightly delayed to allow the round to punch through any armour or mass, before exploding inside of them
plush mason
well thats not now mass reactive rounds work lol
the delay is varied depending on how dense the target it
open marsh
well thats not now mass reactive rounds work lol
If you try to apply real world ballistics and terminology to 40k, you are gonna have a bad time
distant harness
it'll explode on contact if it hits something hard
plush mason
i see
plush mason
it'll explode on contact if it hits something hard
well shit the bolter rounds just not a lot less deadly
distant harness
why? stuff it can punch through it does, stuff it can't it explodes on
instead of bouncing off and exploding on the ground
last rune
and them have internal explosives
kinect power + explosives
just the kinect power can explode an human, they have .75 mm
or kinect energy ? i dont know what nomenclature u guys use
open marsh
Long story short. Trying to apply real world ballistics to 40k is the highest level of skub. It's not gonna work. Bolter rounds are as powerful or weak as they need to be for drama
plucky moth
I mean bolters are effectively handheld artillery
plush mason
I mean bolters are effectively handheld artillery
bascily yeah
plucky moth
and just like artillery in movies, it only does things when the plot needs it to
last rune
0.75 is 19.00 mm is huge
plush mason
yes
distant harness
space marines is a pretty big guy
distant harness
I think the smallest mentioned one I know of is .60?
can't imagine the sob ones would be any smaller than that, considering they're still in power armour
vast frigate
Bolter rounds are a tad larger than our .50's, one of the few things we see consistently is that the bullet in the hand of a space marine is the size of a thinner soda can for a human
the anti material rifle ones
and as for the discussion on the bullet type, yeah, pretty much just bolt goes Boom when it enters a target, its not so much that they have any form of superb tech inside rather than the head just having a delayed trigger, the head of a bolter bullet collapses in like the primer would normally, this triggers the fuse, and given if its inside, it goes Boom
also remember that most of these things are fairly sensitive to allow shredding of flesh with boom
Im not great on gun terms so take this how you want, but i had to look up some of this stuff in way too much detail due to a project
remote vortex
plush mason
so a bolter is basicly an automatic antimaterial rifle lol
for those that dont know an antimaterial rifle is a 20m sniper rifle the british army devoleped and fielded for a short time
open marsh
open marsh
so a bolter is basicly an automatic antimaterial rifle lol
More like an automatic Neopup PAW-20 with self-propelled ammo
plush mason
More like an automatic Neopup PAW-20 with self-propelled ammo
that can not be real
open marsh
that can not be real
It is
plush mason
the antimaterial rifle was all but unuseable
open marsh
plush mason
i hope they fixed the recoil problem
plush mason
What recoil problem
the sniper rifles the british army made had a major recoil problem. it was so hard that it ripped the snipers shoulder out of socket
open marsh
the sniper rifles the british army made had a major recoil problem. it was so ha...
Thats the british and british guns suck. Many countries use antimaterial rifles. Even Ive fired a barrett M82
plush mason
this was the first of the 20mm rifles so
the birtish also made the first bullpup rifle
open marsh
Well as you can tell, countries who know what they are doing solved the recoil problem. Notice the lack of his shoulder getting torn from its socket
plush mason
and it also sucked lol
open marsh
plush mason
also there is no way that gun is legal in most countries/states
open marsh
.950 JDJ, larger (tho shorter) than 20mm
plush mason
most of these high caliber weapons are just barely legal in most states
why they are even on the civ market i will never know lol
thick shadow
I imagine vulkan as being ace tbh, like with dorn
Same theory, and I think it goes on most of primarchs.
distant harness
i think a lot of those bigger guns are on civ market just because they're so fucking expensive there'd be no reason to do illegal shit with them, so you get no push to take them off
like who's gonna spend $20k to go shoot someone when a random shitty gun will do the job fine anyway
plucky moth
I still get confused as to why anyone would be like
yeah we need a gun that fires a fucking 20mm bullet
thick shadow
atomic pelican
For fun and glory I imagine
distant harness
blowing holes in things probably
plush mason
yeah we need a gun that fires a fucking 20mm bullet
cuz dakka
open marsh
yeah we need a gun that fires a fucking 20mm bullet
smol pp
plucky moth
thick shadow
I think 1 would have been enough
And that's why I worship Astartes
atomic pelican
Idk why you'd drop 20k on a gun tho, I could have fun just shooting bottles with like a .22 or something
distant harness
man people drop that much on a guitar, at least the 20k gun does something different to a 2k one
atomic pelican
That's tru
thick shadow
yeah we need a gun that fires a fucking 20mm bullet
Bigger DAKKA
open marsh
Idk why you'd drop 20k on a gun tho, I could have fun just shooting bottles with...
smol pp
thick shadow
Yes, it has economical problem...
ashen zenith
the british where so bad at making guns they had to hire the germans to come fix them
open marsh
who cares bro
I mean people who buy big firearms have smol pp. Its a feeling of power they otherwise dont have
distant harness
I think they probably just like shooting things tbh
open marsh
Because its a power trip
(I know these things from my upbringing. Ive been shooting guns since I was 4. Ive seen it first hand)
atomic pelican
So have I and most ppl seem fine
atomic pelican
RHRRH
open marsh
you were seeing their pps first hand at 4?
Not at 4, but when I was old enough. You see alot of pps as a medic in the army
distant harness
interesting
who knew the penis inspection day memes weren't actually memes in the army
crisp heath
open marsh
Its an army thing
specifically a medic thing
Also I know this is a SM. But I really hope I get a power sword / plasma gun combo in Darktide. so I can rock up into battle like this. (Yes i know its a combi-plasma, and yes I know we wont be able to dual wield them. but still)
round vessel
I can't really see a plasma gun being in darktide. Maybe a pistol
Maybe as a special/heavy weapon
open marsh
They have already teased it in their first reveal trailer
open marsh
?
thick shadow
Being furry caused the one kept on malfunctioning quite a long The price of being furry. And nobody safe from this
open marsh
Im confused
crisp heath
open marsh
You are furry, I'm a closet furry, others are can be a furry too.
No I mean the relevance
🚪
thick shadow
open marsh
Im still confused
thick shadow
Tzeentch
open marsh
thick shadow
If you confused, it's "probably" because of Tzeentch.
open marsh
ignites power sword with malicious intent
barren tapir
Anyone know of alpine like worlds?
crisp heath
Maybe Gudrun? They have a 3500km Long mountain range
Eisenhorn was There in one of His Books, taking a Luxus train on a mountain trail
barren tapir
Is that the world were the nobles go in cryo sleep when winter came?
crisp heath
No thats hubris
Gudrun is where someone trys to assasinate him. He also meets another Inquisitor and they Help each other
crisp heath
Eisenhorn was There in one of His Books, taking a Luxus train on a mountain trai...
i was looking for the name of that world and couldn't find it
primal tide
Yeah I believe he had a swanky estate in the mountains or something there?
||it was where he had the assassination attempt when everything else of his offworld got wrecked too||
plush mason
btw ima guess terranis is the kerigsman version of valhalla
plush mason
specifically a medic thing
are crotch wounds really that common?
knotty cove
shot in pp
plush mason
well i mean it would be a good way to incapacitate and then kill said soldier
he would die of bloodloss very quickly
vast frigate
why they are even on the civ market i will never know lol
because the right to bear arms
or something like that idk americans weird me out
final oxide
Freedom is weird
plush mason
because the right to bear arms
lol the right to bear arms does not include highpowered millitary weapons
these guns require a long list of perments and licences to own here in the states
final oxide
🥴
plush mason
all of which are costly to get and keep
final oxide
What are you talking about, everyone has a tank in America
you can buy them in a walmart
amerika bad, gun bad
plush mason
What are you talking about, everyone has a tank in America
lol if only that was true
final oxide
yeah...
plush mason
you can own old WW2 tanks
so long as all weapon systme are decomishoned
so the main guns cant fire nore any of the mechine guns it may have
final oxide
I wish you could buy a tank as a Christmas present. You unwrap it and what a surprise - It is the BANEBLADE!!!
plush mason
lol
crisp heath
are crotch wounds really that common?
butt wounds are super common
the ass is quite a large target
ashen zenith
why they are even on the civ market i will never know lol
why wouldnt you want to be able to buy a 20 mm rifle
ashen zenith
wait there are elephants there?
crisp heath
in zoos and private zoos
potent swift
Elephants are a protected species so you can't go to other countries and shoot them
crisp heath
why wouldnt you want to be able to buy a 20 mm rifle
why wouldn't you? it's cooler to stick above some shelves than some photos of rocks
what i don't understand is why you'd want to get that and not a historical one
ashen zenith
from what i remember that one isnt really for sell, its the only one in existence
atomic pelican
Funny enough, some countries have started selling licenses to hunt exotic animals to help pay for their conservation efforts
It's really neat
ashen zenith
the .950 one
atomic pelican
Poaching still awful tho of course
ashen zenith
but yea it would be cool having an old 500 nitro express elephant gun just sitting over your fireplace
crisp heath
i'm okay with meat hunting, even legal trophy hunting if the carcass is used responsibly
but poachers need to be staked on the roadside
plush mason
i'm okay with meat hunting, even legal trophy hunting if the carcass is used res...
amen
sadly most trophy hunters are as bad as poachers
i come from a line of substance hunters
most would sooner hunt a trophy hunter than a trophy
crisp heath
some people have a hard time treating other people, animals and weapons with respect.
i have a hard time treating those people themselves with respect, too.
plush mason
exactly
vapid sentinel
Depends. A SM Bolter if you are able to fire it would rip your arm out of the socket or it wouldn’t fire because the weapon knows you are not a space marine
Either way you would be executed for even touching it by your beloved friendly neighborhood commissar
plush mason
so do the death korps forces really only use thier service numbers and never their names?
i mean i guess it would make sence seeing as they are all thought they are nothing but bullets in the emperor's gun
odd sparrow
iirc they don't usually have names?
plush mason
i thought that was just the vatborn ones
also someone asked how the death korps maintaines its numbers
and the seems that when ever they are deployed to a new world all local imperial forces are assmulated into the korps
storm jungle
Arent they just mass produced
plush mason
so that + the fact kreig has the highlst blood tith of all the worlds means they can easily maitine their numbers
vapid sentinel
Assmulated? Is that some slaaneshy thing? 🙂
final oxide
Ass mutilated
plush mason
fucking
final oxide
THE fucking
plush mason
i cant spell
final oxide
me too buddy
plush mason
they just fucking brainwash all the locals
final oxide
We don't spellshame here
plush mason
i shame myself lol
vapid sentinel
Nah no shame here all good. We understood what you wanted to write. It just made my caveman brain laugh or else I wouldn’t even mind the typo
open marsh
are crotch wounds really that common?
Yes
I have pictures when a journalist saw me treating one
plush mason
ima assume most of them are the result of bad aim lol
namely cus if the dude has body armor there isnt any real point aiming below the neck
plucky moth
?? I thought everyone was trained to aim centre mass
open marsh
You assume alot of the people we fight had training
and arent just some rando shclub, or God have mercy, a child that they just grabbed and gave a gun
plucky moth
plush mason
yes
storm jungle
plush mason
thats modern day asemitric warfare for you
plucky moth
y'know maybe this whole war thing is overrated and we should keep it in video games and movies only
barren tapir
Ok, here another question: what is the appearance of the lucifer blacks?
plush mason
the what?
plucky moth
an IG regiment
barren tapir
The lucifer blacks, they were an elite regiment during the unification war and later became bodyguards and later get dissolved and later get reformed and a lot of stuff
But what i would like to know is what is their appearance
They are among the regiments that defend the imperial palace in the 41th millennium, so i think they got some recent info since the imperial palace got attacked by khorne demons after the fall of cadia
I was thinking that they guys in black here were them, but it seems to conflict with some little description i managed to find
open marsh
Ok, here another question: what is the appearance of the lucifer blacks?
Probably the guys on the cover of the new Mortis novel
barren tapir
Mortis novel? Interesting, thanks
open marsh
There are a group called "Malcador's Chosen", a unit who guarded Malcador the Sigilite. Given the other lore of the Lucifer Blacks (that they were tasked with guarding the palace and personally guarding VIPS, leads me to think they are a unit from the Lucifer Blacks)
vapid sentinel
On the German lexicanum their appearance is described. Don’t know if it’s correct.
They wear black body armor and black velvet coats. The helm is described as fully closed with a Glas visor and a small snout in the mouth region
barren tapir
Uhm... No, it they too seem to not match the description of them, not that i hold that description too much reliable...
Nope, malcador's chosen were his special unit, they weren't really to defend the palace... Their whereabout in the 41th millennium is unknow
open marsh
Uhm... No, it they too seem to not match the description of them, not that i hol...
Fair now that Ive seen the description
Lucifer Blacks are typically equipped with jet-black body armour and long Flak Jackets. They don full-visored helmets and often wield crackling Power Glaives while on duty at the Imperial Palace.
barren tapir
Yeah, that is the description i found, but i would prefer art that show them
storm jungle
Probably the guys on the cover of the new Mortis novel
Hm I think those are just solar auxilia? Judging from their pauldrons and how they look the same as the lads and girls manning the trench in another HH book cover
barren tapir
The guys on the mortis novel could be the terran praefects
open marsh
Reason I thought that Malcador's Chosen might be Lucifer Blacks is their armour is the same as the IG guarding the palace in the Mortis image
open marsh
Which this art kinda pisses me off. Where the fuck are the Solar Auxilia?
But no LETS PUT MORE GOD DAMN CADIAN STYLE REGIMENTS IN
barren tapir
Those guys in front of sanguinus seems the same of the mortis novel, so it would make sense that they are a full fledged reggiment, but by the time of the horus heresy the lucifer blacks were so few that they got bodyguard duty
vapid sentinel
They didn’t make it to the Foto op
barren tapir
The solar auxilia was busy in other parts of the imperium, also they were more for offensive actions that defence actions
open marsh
The solar auxilia was busy in other parts of the imperium, also they were more f...
The throne world is under siege. Im sure we could have bothered them to lend us some of their ever so valuable time to help with our small inconvience
plush mason
oh look its everyones favorant mutant
open marsh
kek
storm jungle
I feel dumb never having noticed the solar-boyz not looking like proper space troopers in artwork now.
plush mason
i mean they renamed christmas in his honor
storm jungle
Im sure theres a reason why but it feels really cheap without it.
open marsh
Im sure theres a reason why but it feels really cheap without it.
Now you are seeing the lore through my eyes
storm jungle
barren tapir
AH! Found what are probably those guys in the mortis art
vapid sentinel
Reason is gw wants to sell the cadian style ig and not create new minis
storm jungle
AH! Found what are probably those guys in the mortis art
Tell us!
barren tapir
Kimmerine Corps Bellum
open marsh
More like Kimmerine Corps Bellends
barren tapir
Those guys appear in the saturnine novel
storm jungle
Yeah i think this is just a new artistic representation of them
Since they get no result in images lol
open marsh
Those guys appear in the saturnine novel
Alot of regiments did
Konas Burr , Militant General, Kimmerine Corps Bellum
Ahlborn , Conroi-Captain, Hort Palatine (Command Prefectus Unit)
Bastian Carlo , Colonel (33rd Pan-Pac Lift Mobile)
Al-Nid Nazira , Captain, Auxilia
Mads Tantane , Captain (16th Arctic Hort)
Willem Kordy , (33rd Pan-Pac Lift Mobile)
Joseph Baako Monday , (18th Regiment, Nordafrik Resistance Army)
Ennie Carnet , (Fourth Australis Mechanised)
Seezar Filipay , (Hiveguard Ischia)
Jen Koder , (22nd Kantium Hort)
Bailee Grosser , (Third Helvet)
Olly Piers , (105th Tercio Upland Grenadiers)
Pasha Cavaner , (11th Heavy Janissar)
Lex Thornal , (77th Europa Max)
Adele Gercault , (55th Midlantik)
Oxana Pell , (Hort Borograd K)
Getty Orheg , (16th Arctic Hort)
And others```FW has Solar Auxilia minis, so thats not an issue
barren tapir
Crap... Tough it looks like there was also solar auxilia
atomic pelican
Isnt it just bcuz Cadia wears like the most standard armor
Not that its rlly cadian style
plush mason
Isnt it just bcuz Cadia wears like the most standard armor
they started the style so
open marsh
In older lore, this was the most common style for Terran-born Imperial Army units
plush mason
yes
atomic pelican
In older lore custodes were golden gods with their abs out
Which was an improvement too, I digress
barren tapir
Those were the tupelov lancers aren't they?
open marsh
final spruce
And no Water you're wrong
barren tapir
I mean, to be fair the first to use that style of armour seems to be the malcador's chosen
plush mason
oh
open marsh
The Geno Five-Two Chillad unit
Also the description of the Lucifer blacks. All about those long coats (and often big hats)
BUT NO LETS JUST THROW ALL OF THAT OUT FOR MORE CADIANS
final spruce
Stop being like that
storm jungle
🍿
plush mason
i mean the cadians had ONE JOB and failed at it...
final spruce
Kind of true
final spruce
atomic pelican
P much no faction except space marine gets itd "chapters/hive/septs/cults/" represented in special models.
atomic pelican
Or even like, art/lore too often
plush mason
true
storm jungle
Pretty much Cadia
final spruce
And the worst part is, all you got is a tazer
storm jungle
lmao
storm jungle
P much no faction except space marine gets itd "chapters/hive/septs/cults/" repr...
Also yeah I get medic's point but Aun also speaks the truth. Only Zhe Marines matter.
barren tapir
This guys here are this
storm jungle
https://tenor.com/view/we-dont-care-about-them-bricky-dont-care-whatever-dont-mind-them-gif-17818512
atomic pelican
yeep
plush mason
And the worst part is, all you got is a tazer
tbh thats better than th angry flashlights the guardsmen use lol
final spruce
In 40k almost everything
storm jungle
open marsh
DOES TERRA HAVE
Alot
barren tapir
It seems a lot... Kinda wondering from where they came, since terra was a place full of bad guys and probably with not so many ways to produce food
final spruce
Lots of imports I guess
plush mason
i mean its the throneworld
barren tapir
Yeah, that is when there was the federation, but after slaneesh birth terra got cutoff, and then collapsed because of that
plush mason
there is over what 100billion living on it?
open marsh
DOES TERRA HAVE
Really tho, roughly 100
barren tapir
Yeah, now it import a lot of stuff, like pretty much all hive worlds, but how could it produce so many food when the great crusade wasn't even started?
plush mason
plus the custodius and the sisters of silence
open marsh
Yeah, now it import a lot of stuff, like pretty much all hive worlds, but how co...
It wasnt a hive world during the Unification Wars
final spruce
By the power of the scenario my dude
plush mason
so attacking terra is no small task
barren tapir
It wasnt a hive world during the Unification Wars
True, but it wasn't even a paradise world either
scenic bolt
in one of the HH novels pre-heresy terra had a pop in the quadrillions
plush mason
what the fuck
open marsh
True, but it wasn't even a paradise world either
Hence the constant wars for resources between the techno-barbarian tribes. Tho there were even some self-sufficient groups like the Terrawatt clans
scenic bolt
most populated place in the universe baaaaaybeeee
barren tapir
Also we know that at least 100 regiments were those that didn't get disbanded after the unification war
plush mason
its called contraseptics people
storm jungle
most populated place in the universe baaaaaybeeee
POP THOSE HOT-POCKET BABIES BOIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII
scenic bolt
and I think post heresy terra is still the most populated planet in the empire still
storm jungle
That is also ontop of the pilgrimages made to it
barren tapir
Yeah, it is, as far as i know it is the only hive city spanning world
open marsh
That is also ontop of the pilgrimages made to it
Some people live their entire lives, from birth to death, waiting in line at Terra's outer ports
open marsh
Life on Terra is grimdark AF unless you are a hive noble
open marsh
something more intimidating
Imperial Army has Volkite
open marsh
All it would require is to list them in the 9e IG codex (but make their point cost insane)
knotty cove
mm
i think it'd probably compete with the other special weapon slots
unless you could pay like
+4ppm to outfit a squad with em
thatd be insane
open marsh
Atleast we have that image of Olly Piers that shows us what a Cadian would look like with Volkite
knotty cove
im incredibly upset about what they did to ollanius pius
open marsh
final spruce
Don't worry he has a plasma rifle
knotty cove
"wounding on 3s, fuck you"
ashen zenith
im incredibly upset about what they did to ollanius pius
what did they do
knotty cove
ollanius pius has been retconned
he defended a flag of the emperor from angron
some remembrancer said "lol ok" and said it was ollanius pius defending the emperor from horus
open marsh
Don't worry he has a plasma rifle
Thats a Volkite Charger
final spruce
I have little knowledge of Admech weapons outside of Mechanicus
ashen zenith
why would they retcon that
knotty cove
because the guard doesnt get fun shit
open marsh
I have little knowledge of Admech weapons outside of Mechanicus
During the Great Crusade and Horus Heresy, volkite wasnt uncommon. The Mechanicum werent the only ones who had that. The Imperial Army and the Astartes had them too
ashen zenith
that was like, one of the coolest human moments
knotty cove
yup
until they replaced it with a space marine terminator
then a custodian
then retconned it all entirely
final spruce
Nor a SoB
open marsh
why would they retcon that
Well its been retconned and unretconned several times. And Olly Piers might not even really be a retcon, We still have that perpetual Ollianius Pierson still rocking around the galaxy. Implying that he is coming to the Emperor's aide in the final duel
final spruce
God knows we wanted more female IG models
knotty cove
Also, baneblade's gonna fuckin' slap once the codex hits
Sponsons are going down to 10 each
For a heavy flamer/bolter + lascannon
open marsh
when do we get a primaris baneblade
Astraeus
knotty cove
why must you make me weep
open marsh
Because in the grimdarkness of the far future, there are only primaris space marines
knotty cove
Cawl's comic wasn't even a meme
final spruce
Well, those repulsors carry as many guns as a baneblade
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He's really just throwing more primaris at everything
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Astraeus armaments:
Twin-linked Macro-Accelerator Cannons (Main turret)
Twin-linked Heavy Bolters (Hull-mounted)
Ironhail Heavy Stubber (Co-axial turret-mounted)
2 Las-Rippers (Sponson-mounted)
Storm Bolter (Pintle-mounted)
2 Void Shield Generators
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a single void-shield generator is 200 points, and its a whole building
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I just know the lore
oh
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675 points
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Baneblades are around 350
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just the hull and cannon, yeah
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The most expensive are on the 400 side
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you can easily get to 600-700 with gear
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Solar Auxilia with volkite charger, btw
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nice
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Max you can go for a baneblade is 450 with every single upgrade
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not even close
660
450 base, 4 sponsons are an additional 200, hunter killer is 5, heavy stubber is another 5
385 is just the hull with nothing at all, no guns or anything
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That's 513 on my side
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Mehtal bawkses go brr
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385 base, 15 for auto, 20 for dem cannon, 30 for thb, base total is 450
sponsons are 50 each (thb/thf is 30, lascannon is 20), so additional 200 since you can take 4
hunter killer is 5
heavy stubber is 5
grand total 660
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I forgot about the 3 other sponsor weapons
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But yes, it does prove that IG can't get nice things