Finding that ancient titan and gettings its weapon systems back online
#40k-lore-chat
open marsh
finite roost
i think it is a warlord titan
and like
the eldar try to destory it
and all of it
it is just realy well made
finite roost
kinda did
open marsh
hence my everlasting hatred of knife eared xenos
finite roost
fuck eldar (no pun intended)
finite roost
i mean, the voice actors made a realy good job
i think there is an channel on yt
which has a playlist
of all voice lines is DOW
here
finite roost
it would be
final spruce
That music gives me nostalgia
tall fjord
alot of that dudes videos he ADDS music to the scene when it either didn't have music before, or he changed out the music
but he had AMAZING taste on what songs to add
this one he pulled the song from some anime i never cared to watch, but it fit the scene so well
tall fjord
honestly he should get some kind of a job in an industry that makes film or animation or something, because he's just so good at it
not just anyone can do that
tall fjord
ahhhh
yeaaahhhhh.....i know the feeling
i gave up on star wars after disney, people keep telling me to watch the mandalorian but i'm just DONE with it. 40k still has SOME good stuff so i'm sticking with it
but no idea what fandom i'll go to if 40k goes to shit
crisp heath
40k won't go to shit without an end times scenario
Bc it's not dependent on one medium
storm jungle
It can go to shit
no franchise lasts forever, one wrong decision and they could end up like Fantasy economically
but 40k is more sturdier than that so i doubt it'll happen ANY time soon
crisp heath
Well yeah if they started retconning like mad with PC stuff maybe but i don't really see that happening now
storm jungle
Yep me neither
maybe like long after we die 2 generations later lol
unless GW really messes up like i said
crisp heath
Speak for yourself i don't want to produce future generations lol
tall fjord
i mean i've HEARD they're starting to consider diving face first into making MAJOR changes to make the game more 'politically correct', i'm hoping that they tell these people to fuck off tho
crisp heath
Oh i hope so too
storm jungle
but yeah i doubt they'd do anything dumb like that tho
40k is already diverse and nobody cares what you are
its great
tall fjord
the only people they should care about, are their customers, at the end of the day
crisp heath
The very nature of wh40k opposes it
distant harness
I've not really heard any real rumours about that, not that I trust at least
just standard internet doomsaying
storm jungle
Yeah you saw people's reactions when they released female genestealer magus
aka mostly that she looked great etc
minus the more toxic parts of the fandom 40k is fine for the time being
tall fjord
on the one hand i wouldn't wanna be one of those toxic fanboys who ruin things for everyone else
atomic pelican
There are two sides of the fandom.
Those who get assmad over the most recent wrath and glory cover
And ok people
tall fjord
on the other hand, i still do not know what to think about knowing that khaela mensha khaine is so.....thicc
atomic pelican
Theres alot of elf models who are.. oddly thic
tall fjord
i mean, lets be fair, of ALL the gods, khaine is the one who would most likely to be......curved like that
crisp heath
It means you appreciate thicc asses. That's natural
tall fjord
i guess isha but we don't really see her at all
crisp heath
It's an evolution thing
tall fjord
the name alarielle doesn't mean anything to me, sorry
storm jungle
the avatar of isha basically
1 sec
this is her in fantasy right
this is her in AoS
melon-crush-thicc-
tall fjord
it looks like she's riding a tyranid
"i couldn't find my car keys so i just grabbed the first swarm lord i could find"
storm jungle
Hey thats a beetle, dont be speciest!
crisp heath
Mmm she got legs I'd like to be sandwiched between
tall fjord
"we have OTHER cars, you don't need to ride a tyranid"
"but there were tyranids RIGHT THERE"
crisp heath
That's hot
tall fjord
waste of a good watermelon imo, i mean yeah it's cool but meh
final spruce
Damn
tall fjord
it's probably because i grew up poor but i see this and all i can think is a poor family could live off that for 1-2 days
thick shadow
Reasonable salt
Anyway, healthy women is 🛐
But, I like Warhammer Fantasy version of Isha a bit more than Aos version of her
But at those muscles... the healthiness... AoS wins.
I need a fine mix between two
thick shadow
Why the armour of Astartes has just WIDE crotch protection?
It was a very long and old question of mine, and maybe of others too.
crisp heath
to accommodate their adamantium balls of course
plush mason
Why the armour of Astartes has just WIDE crotch protection?
it depends on the model of astartes armor
thick shadow
And anyways, that is why I like the moddle of maker of Aatartes
no more wide spreading A.K.A. I did in my pants pose
yay
primal tide
I love the retributors chapter symbol
I initially thought it was a skull with a turbo chad massive lower jaw lmao
crisp heath
i immediately guessed they're an IF successor chapter lol
odd sparrow
I initially thought it was a skull with a turbo chad massive lower jaw lmao
you mean it isn't?
crisp heath
no it's a fist
thick shadow
※A gauntlet that grabbing skull that has no jaw
summer niche
open marsh
Their doctrines make me think they are Alpha Legion
Yes I know they are Fists. I'm just saying
primal tide
Nuclearmedic was never seen again
open marsh
What makes you say that dawri
Small unit/cell tactics focused on eliminating HVTs and sabatoge.
primal tide
Man getting a skull tattoo must suck so much more
thick shadow
The author said they are successor of Iron Hands by the way
open marsh
kek
primal tide
Look no further, ye who value thine lives
odd sparrow
ye it says imp fists
plucky moth
open marsh
Anyone read the newest Calgar comic?
thick shadow
No I hate marvel
open marsh
I like it
It's nicely grimdark
Kids murdering each other. Giant grain harvesting tractors running over a slaveserf shanty town (when the nobility of the planet have been shown to live in near unimaginable luxury)
atomic pelican
That sounds hilariously over the top
Me in my combine harvester. Harvesting my serfs
open marsh
Also shows what happens when you are shot with a bolter. Your upper half just goes pop
final spruce
Indeed but just the power of the impact would be enough to detach your torso from your hips
Or alteast dig enough for the explosive to allow it
storm jungle
Or you know
the finale of Rambo 4
as ridiculous as it is lol
just needs more tiny explosions
plush mason
Or alteast dig enough for the explosive to allow it
the round is mass reactive btw
so it wont explode untill it hits the soft bits
final spruce
I know but the effect isn't instant its going to take a mili second to explode on impact
plush mason
yes
final spruce
So just by the power of the caliber your target is in a pretty bad shape
Then it explodes
plush mason
i mean
final spruce
And liquifies everything
plush mason
funny thing is
the british army used a muscket with the same caliber as a boltgun round
the brown bess
so its more the fact it explodes than the actual caliber
final spruce
So the big dakka has always been a british thing, but since the gun was between 1722-1838 , did it use black or white powder ?
plush mason
that idk off the top of my head
open marsh
Indeed but just the power of the impact would be enough to detach your torso fro...
Not really, guns dont quite work like that
plush mason
Not really, guns dont quite work like that
actual a bolt round is a rocket not a bullet
open marsh
actual a bolt round is a rocket not a bullet
I know that
But that doesnt matter
its just velocity
the difference between a bullet and a bolt round is the method which creates that velocity
But getting shot with a bolt round wouldnt just blow you in two from the velocity alone.
The explosive however
plush mason
the solid fuel motor in the back of the bolt round would give it far more velocity (and sutain it longer) than a normal bullet propelant ever could
final spruce
Since smokeless powder, aka what I knew as white powder was made in 1852 by the french
final spruce
The physics of bolter rounds is always a hot topic
plush mason
yes
final spruce
Either way, I learnt something about the brits today
Is that , even back then they loved their dakka
plush mason
lol
where do you think us americans got the addiction?
"BOBBY! bring the 62 pounders around."
we got rubble to make
atomic pelican
Is that the comic with spesh mahrens just fighting mook humans?
I remember seeing a post abt that
final spruce
They don't only fight humans
atomic pelican
Ahh
plush mason
i dont even want to imagine the size of a 62 pound cannon ball....
atomic pelican
I was gonna say, If it was just unorganized mooks, what a onesided thing
plush mason
most battles with the space marines are onesided freakshows
open marsh
Its ||a black legion attack on Marneus Calgar's homeworld||
plush mason
its failbaddon's bois what do you expect?
atomic pelican
See my imperial lore is small but I feel like seeing muscleman #322 stomp humans with no chance is boring
open marsh
But that particular image was ||from Calgar's past. His first teacher was a failed Aspirant who turned out to be a khornite cultist||
tall fjord
it's not like it's news
plush mason
its 40k
thick shadow
actual a bolt round is a rocket not a bullet
It's both.
plush mason
everyone is evil as shit
plush mason
It's both.
correct tho in flight its a rocket
atomic pelican
I love them
open marsh
Kids getting sacrificed to Khorne
plush mason
i wonder what tech lingus sounds like
open marsh
Kids murdering other kids
barren tapir
Those mecahnicus guys are extremely human
atomic pelican
I wish we would get some more Ig visual media
barren tapir
I prefer the ones in priest of mars
plush mason
I wish we would get some more Ig visual media
same
final spruce
I mean not all are full on machine 010
open marsh
Those mecahnicus guys are extremely human
Its an enginseer and a Skitarii
atomic pelican
IG are more human, more interesting than ur avg spesh buzz lightyear imo
open marsh
barren tapir
Its an enginseer and a Skitarii
Yes, i know, i recognized them
storm jungle
This will do as an alternative
plush mason
but the space marine fanclub wets its crib when ever there beloved superhumans arent mentioned every few seconds
open marsh
y'know there's actually a weapon irl that used rocket bullets
gyrojet rounds
plush mason
y'know there's actually a weapon irl that used rocket bullets
the 9mm rocket pistol was also one
open marsh
but the space marine fanclub wets its crib when ever there beloved superhumans a...
Im just here for the relics. I mostly started reading the comic just to see more of the gauntlets of Ultramar
barren tapir
the 9mm rocket pistol was also one
The volcanic pistol?
plucky moth
yeah and both were terrible 
plush mason
NASA had it made cuz at the time they thought normal gund wouldnt work in space lol
why they thought that i will never know
barren tapir
The problem with gyrojets was that they didn't offer anything worthy more than normal bullets, sure, little to no recoil, but crap velocity out of the barrel ,and it would became good after 9-12 meters
thick shadow
That gyrojet or something is just literally a rocket
barren tapir
For what i saw, that calgar comic is bad from a lore POV, medium life expectancy of 30 years in ultramar? Yeah, what about nope
barren tapir
Enginseers and skitarii talking like humans? Also nope thanks...
plush mason
plus dont khornate cults avoid such ritual sacrifing?
open marsh
the US army made a jeep mounted nuke lancher lol
Made a personal firing nuke morter too
barren tapir
I mean, the italians did rocket launchers mounted on vespas
people of inventors i heard
open marsh
plush mason
taking blood thru battle is perferd as far as i know
barren tapir
plus dont khornate cults avoid such ritual sacrifing?
It depend on the cult, but they would prefer an arena over that kind of sacrifice
thick shadow
Ah, the coldwar era things
plush mason
yes
thick shadow
Everythings were nuke
plush mason
do you know why?
storm jungle
The only time we try to make inventive stuff is when we're trying to figure out how to kill each other more easily lol
barren tapir
Cold era i hear? Well, the g11 was an amazing weapon, and it was german
thick shadow
Space gun?
plush mason
cuz the USSR would have kicked NATO's ass in a few months in a convential war
barren tapir
The G11 video from forgotten weapons was also posted here by timmy, the video editor fatshark... It was nice to see other people knowing about it
plush mason
so NATO had to constantly threaten to drop the sun on them to keep the tanks docked
atomic pelican
the US army made a jeep mounted nuke lancher lol
UNGUIDED AIR TO AIR NUKES
Were a prototype as well*
plush mason
it got crazy
atomic pelican
Nuclear history before we knew abt nuclear fallout was whacky
barren tapir
Most of cold era nuke weapons were also fake, i mean, probably real on paper, but not in reality, or so i read some time ago
open marsh
Nuclear history before we knew abt nuclear fallout was whacky
Or that radiation tends to stick to things
atomic pelican
YEP
plush mason
the whole "critical mass" thing killed most of these projects
barren tapir
Thinking about radiation make me chuckle thinking on how it is disregarded in the imperium, and the Ad. Mech. even use it as a weapon
storm jungle
the whole "critical mass" thing killed most of these projects
Tsar Bomb: Am I a joke to you
open marsh
Most of cold era nuke weapons were also fake, i mean, probably real on paper, bu...
The Davy Crocket was real, but it never made it past testing since it was discovered there was no way to actually use the thing without the fallout blowing back on the user and his allies. Basically the max range of the weapon was far lower than the fallout range
plush mason
Or that radiation tends to stick to things
they knew it did but not that it lasted for millions of years
storm jungle
also USSR = Skaven when it comes to testing nukes
im sure if the cold war didnt end sooner
they'd be like
open marsh
they knew it did but not that it lasted for millions of years
Not at first. There are videos of sailors going back onboard a ship that was irradiated. noone had any idea the thing was still hot.
storm jungle
"hey lets shoot one at the moon"
plush mason
also USSR = Skaven when it comes to testing nukes
the US army detonated nukes outside las vages with GIs in trenches within the followout zone without any form of protection
plucky moth
Centruion tanks were tested in Australia by nuking it to see how it handled it
the tank survived well enough and then the tank crew drove it back to base...pretty much right after...with zero decontamination or protective equipment
plush mason
how do you think they learned what it took to survive the initial explosion
barren tapir
also USSR = Skaven when it comes to testing nukes
That is US, they did a lot of experiments and even hide some of them when the radiation flew all over the states
plush mason
yup
plucky moth
also that same tank would later be rekt by an RPG in vietnam
plush mason
its a dark legacy
plucky moth
The Brits would also test nukes here in locations suspiciously close to where indigenous communities were 🥴
barren tapir
Aaaand they were caught by kodak, or it was canon? Because photo material got damaged, they sued the state but agreed to be silent if the government would tell them when they were to test
plush mason
tbh all 40k is is just the really fucked up shit we humans have done for centuries x10
plucky moth
pretty much
barren tapir
True, few are the places that are still good, and when they are discovered they get nuked quite often
plush mason
and thats why i say its the most realistic and likely outcome for humanity as a space fairing race
the united federation of planets is a pipedream and the imperium is a future we should never let happen
storm jungle
but like thats the thing
humanity doesnt care about anything
just like how the ice caps will all melt eventually
We keep saying we'll do something about it but we really wont lol
barren tapir
There was a federation before the long night AKA age of strife, and it was all nice and good, until the men of iron revolt
Then things took a very bad turn
atomic pelican
People say this but its not like humanity is exclusively turbofascists lol
Very few places are
plush mason
There was a federation before the long night AKA age of strife, and it was all n...
but it was proped up by the men of iorn's slavery
plush mason
the name does mean slave
primal tide
uwu
atomic pelican
Most people do want to do something abt climate change
storm jungle
Disagreed:
primal tide
Lmao
atomic pelican
Its just a very few in power who have (capital) interests
storm jungle
Its just a very few in power who have (capital) interests
Yeah sorry thats a better way to put it
atomic pelican
Doomers man
barren tapir
but it was proped up by the men of iorn's slavery
It wasn't slavery at first, they were machine, then they developed consciousness, some went bat crazy and others didn't want to die
storm jungle
its same as how we'll never all drive electric cars
plush mason
Disagreed:
storm jungle
but yeah like even if we become a star fairing race it'll probably be more like the expanse
primal tide
Love that show
plucky moth
I'm gonna solve global warming by leaving my fridge open
barren tapir
Also yes, the imperium may be the worst government ever, but some planets still got quite decent one
plush mason
but yeah like even if we become a star fairing race it'll probably be more like ...
rn thats the biggist if in human history
barren tapir
Some may even have elected planetary governor
plush mason
you wont have to for long
plucky moth
yeah can't wait to live in a literal wasteland
atomic pelican
Fellas whomst go to mars expecting scifi them live without most commodities in a shithole dune
plush mason
everyone that follows musk up there will be dead in a few earth months
storm jungle
yeah can't wait to live in a literal wasteland
Dont make me do an australia in space joke
plucky moth
only if I get a space brisbane
final spruce
If I ever get the chance to live on Mars , you bloody well know I'll praise the Monissiah
barren tapir
That is just catachan
primal tide
Imagine paying a fortune to become trailer trash on mars
plush mason
Dont make me do an australia in space joke
oh you mean the nids
storm jungle
Fellas whomst go to mars expecting scifi them live without most commodities in a...
Also yeah i meant more as in how earthern people will be like "OH THOSE MARTIANS THINK THEY'RE BETTEER THAN US?"
plucky moth
storm jungle
because even if every person in the world looked the same they'd find something to punch each other over
feels bad man
clearly we need aliens to fight
and unite against
REEEE
plush mason
<:thisisfine:325664936485322752>
your brain must feel like Tzeench's personlay plaything at times. sorry
plucky moth
I'm used to it lmao
plush mason
lol
barren tapir
clearly we need aliens to fight
Agree
plucky moth
my life is a slow clap
primal tide
My life is a golf clap
plush mason
so um what type of knight is this?
barren tapir
I would say knight paladin
barren tapir
I would say they are still paladin
With a improved chainsword
And rocket launcher
plush mason
which i love cuz its like "ill see your ork zappas and raise you an imperial lightcannon!"
plush mason
I would say they are still paladin
can the paladins have a mounted weapon?
barren tapir
Yes
median sundial
Alright, what is the most obscure bit of lore you know? Mine consist of guns that are barely around in the universe.
crisp heath
radical inquisitorial factions. one of them wants to kill the emperor for good because they believe that then he'll be reborn somewhere else and consolidate the imperium
plush mason
i mean
median sundial
WELL NOW.
plush mason
cuz take him off the thrown and he should just rezz himself
ofc all of terra will drown in a demontide but
open summit
Plus the Astronomican will be extinguished.
plush mason
true
odd sparrow
star child intensifies
plush mason
ofc he chould keep powering it after he fully heals
median sundial
Anyway, anyone else with their most obscure lore knowledge?
crisp heath
Also, the inquisitorial rosette is also an ID card and a usb stick.
median sundial
Learned that one from Inquisitor Martyr.
crisp heath
I did from eisenhorn
median sundial
As well as each one being distinct, unique to every inquisitor.
crisp heath
There are also ordo specific designs
plush mason
they are also used as seals of athority
being able to "stamp" their signature on any communication/document as prove of authication
crisp heath
Yeah, and you show one and you're golden
median sundial
You got any obscure lore bits Water?
plush mason
they are also genelocked to the given inqusitor so they are impossable to steal and use
plush mason
You got any obscure lore bits Water?
im still cutting my teeth in the lore
open marsh
Completely offtopic rage moment: You have known my disdain for every guard regiment basically being "Cadians in all but name" but the newest Calgar comic issue went the step farther. Apparently there are Cadians in Ultramar.
THE FAR SIDE OF THE FETHING GALAXY
median sundial
I most general stuff and some obscure stuff, but I'm still ignorant enough to need more info.
open marsh
That image on his pauldron is that of the Cadian regiments. sybolizing the Cadian gate
There is no reason for a Cadian to be in Ultramar. They have their own Guardsmen regiments, the Ultramar Auxilia
odd sparrow
i mean
plush mason
both guardsmen factions in DOW1 dark crusade and soulstorm are from the same regiment lol
storm jungle
That image on his pauldron is that of the Cadian regiments. sybolizing the Cadia...
They ruined a change to introduce a roman-mechboi regiment GREAT
storm jungle
both guardsmen factions in DOW1 dark crusade and soulstorm are from the same reg...
Also they arent, one is the Kauravan conservators
odd sparrow
is it really so wild to imagine that a cadian regiment would be functioning inside ultramar
storm jungle
the other is the Kronus 1st Liberators
open marsh
These are Ultramar guardsmen
odd sparrow
idk what the exact fluff is for where cadians actually mainly operate but idk
odd sparrow
Also obvs just. cadians are the most recognizable etc etc
storm jungle
Such a missed oppoturnity tbh
plush mason
Also they arent, one is the Kauravan conservators
i meent the cadian gate symeble thing
open marsh
idk what the exact fluff is for where cadians actually mainly operate but idk
Around the eye of terror / cadian gate. literally the opposite side of the galaxy from Ultramar
plush mason
it makes a bit of sence for the liberators
atomic pelican
Its just bcuz Cadia is most identifiable in media. Its like why u see Vior'la on every tau thing now
plush mason
but not the conservators
open marsh
Its just bcuz Cadia is most identifiable in media. Its like why u see Vior'la on...
Thats not an excuse. The comic isnt even about the Imperial Guard. just use the Ultramar Auxilia.
open marsh
It called the artist is a lazy shit who didnt bother to look up that not the entire Imperial guard are Cadians
atomic pelican
I'd like to see Sa'cea art too but itbjust be that way
odd sparrow
meh
atomic pelican
I like the urban colors!
crisp heath
The artist probably only got minis for reference
open marsh
I know thats what they did. They went to the GW website, looked at the IG model and figured "Oh, that must be what all IG look like"
final spruce
🙂
crisp heath
I dunno idk the difference between a storm trooper and clone trooper either, chances are if you asked me to draw them and didn't tell me which is which I'd fuck it up
odd sparrow
that's- ~a pretty reasonable assumption tbh~
fans being big on some piece of fluff doesn't mean a comic writer is somehow in the wrong for not incorporating it as an easter egg into their product
crisp heath
The writers should have noted it.
odd sparrow
especially with how big 40k is
crisp heath
The artist works with what they're given
odd sparrow
Yeah it would've been a nice touch if they didn't like, literally have the cadian symbol on them
crisp heath
I'd just say don't blame the artist necessarily
If you're drawing for sthyou know jack shit about you'll ask the writers for refs
odd sparrow
yee
crisp heath
If they send you to the gw store you get cadians
median sundial
Well the conversation has derailed in a different direction. Don't think I could correct it even if I wanted to.
open marsh
Yeah it would've been a nice touch if they didn't like, literally have the cadia...
yeah, then I could have just written it off as some kind of PDF who get lesser equipment (I can imagine Ultramar Auxilia stuff is better quality than Cadian stuff)
final spruce
Cadian stuff is the basic bitch of equipment
It's easy to do better but you could do worse
But Ultramar is a lot of worlds so who knows
odd sparrow
i don't imagine that cadians are like, strictly limited to the area around the eye of terror. if existing fluff says they are then fair enough but it's all just v easy to justify as yeah lmao cadians are here for whatever reason
kinda lazy but it isn't violating anything afaik
primal tide
Call it the cadian diaspora
final spruce
Yeap, the lore says a lot of regiments adopted the cadian way and even now, some cadians commanders, especially Pask go around and recruit the best from other regiments to remake the old Cadia regiments
Pask has already recruited multiple Valhallans Leman russ drivers into his Iron regiment
plush mason
btw where exactly is Kreig on the galaxy map?
final spruce
Its South West
final spruce
Where the Imperium is currently having issues with rebellion and GSC
plush mason
GSC?
plush mason
oh
dull flame
https://i.redd.it/bmwhk6mgugv31.png Near bottom left corner of the map by Macharia
final spruce
number 34
plush mason
also has the deathkorps really only be servering the imperium as a whole for just over 1k years?
odd sparrow
i do forget when exactly krieg was meant to have rebelled tbh
final spruce
In 433.M40
plush mason
wow
final spruce
Thats when theyd eclared independance
odd sparrow
but like, pre rebellion iirc it would've just been any other world. The whole rebellion turned it into a blasted hellscape
dull flame
949.M40 is when they took back the planet finally. Took 'em 500 years of war
final spruce
Story wise they are not the oldest regiment yes
plush mason
yeah iirc it was said they are one of the newer ones and already one of the most important ones
dull flame
I don't know how Krieg regiments haven't swelled way past Cadian numbers. Cause the lore says Krieg sends 50 million men per year for guard tithes.
crisp heath
they're sent to the worst warzones and die
plush mason
ummm they also loss about that mean in every warfront they fight in
dull flame
Also true. 40k numbers are all over the place
storm jungle
40k writers have zero understanding of scale
500 years
like
what the fuck do they do all that time
lol
plush mason
there are penal regiments will less casualties
primal tide
Tea time
odd sparrow
I'd say that 50 million probably isn't alll that much on a galactic scale, especially with how the attrition rates should rightfully be WAY higher than the professional ass cadians, but also yeah
final spruce
Tunnel Wars
odd sparrow
numbers aren't real in black library
primal tide
I reject these numbers and substitute my own
final spruce
Yet SM chapters are limited to 1k guys
odd sparrow
what the fuck do they do all that time
maybe the administratum just took that long to realize they stopped paying their tithes tbh
final spruce
🤣
storm jungle
Yet SM chapters are limited to 1k guys
Im almost sure nobody ever cares about that
dull flame
Unless you're the black templars. Where you have 7k
odd sparrow
as soon as they noticed it took a few more decades to get a few guard regiments to murderbone it
poor girlyman
odd sparrow
nobody listens to him
final spruce
They do but even the Codx abiding Ultramarines who's Priamrch wrote the damn book have found another way to do it
storm jungle
they spent every second of that fighting traitors
THE PLANET WOULD LITERALLY RUN OUT OF HUMANS BY THEN.
REEEE
storm jungle
Oh right
primal tide
Just make more humans 😏
storm jungle
Damn long-necked-aliens from star wars
plush mason
THE PLANET WOULD LITERALLY RUN OUT OF HUMANS BY THEN.
for one Kreig was a massive hive world home to untold billions
dull flame
They went full Kamino in the bunkers beneath their nuclear-wiped planet surface
odd sparrow
if the guardsmen insist they came from vats don't listen to them they're just himbos
storm jungle
dull flame
Grand Army of the Re- Wait.
storm jungle
Grand Army of the Re- Wait.
THE MOUSE IS GONNA HEAR US BE QUIET
odd sparrow
tbh hot take but star wars is even worse with scale
odd sparrow
a pan galactic war?? with only?? that many???
plush mason
good and disney do not belong in the same sentence
crisp heath
if the guardsmen insist they came from vats don't listen to them they're just hi...
kriegers are just dark himbos indeed
primal tide
star wars is space fantasy without the actual interesting fantasy
odd sparrow
though tbh very few space fantasy settings can even remotely be trusted with the scale of a full galaxy
storm jungle
star wars is space fantasy without the actual interesting fantasy
You gotta cover it up with samurai imagery and western stuff
odd sparrow
if any uwu
plush mason
a pan galactic war?? with only?? that many???
btw the droid army at that time was almost a billion strong
crisp heath
uhh
final spruce
So like Stellaris did Dilara ?
odd sparrow
that's ~also tiny~
primal tide
You gotta cover it up with samurai imagery and western stuff
zzzz
dull flame
Remember tho. The Clone Wars was orchestrated from the very beginning. They were fighting more so over key planets than every planet.
crisp heath
only a billion?
storm jungle
OH SHIET
odd sparrow
tbh star wars and 40k don't have to compete, i like them both
plush mason
Remember tho. The Clone Wars was orchestrated from the very beginning. They were...
correct most of the galaxy remained at peace
rotund siren
how many key planets?
odd sparrow
It definitely hasn't even remotely got as strong of an aesthetic as 40k
rotund siren
bathrobes and rubber aliens
imagine not liking bathrobes
crisp heath
i like shit that looks nice
odd sparrow
like. 40k has all the john blanche stuff, the whole gothic grimdark-ish vibe
it's extremely distinctive
odd sparrow
to be fair like. the whole aesthetic of star wars is still informed by the original films
odd sparrow
that wasn't a budget thing, it was just the 70s and early 80s lol
storm jungle
Didnt blanche even design AoS stuff
crisp heath
and because i can illustrate shit in scifi but with historical aesthetics
primal tide
Deja vu
storm jungle
his sigmarite stuff is cool as fuck
odd sparrow
uh i haven't heard about it? p sure they did do some fantasy art but unsure
odd sparrow
!!! that looks badass
crisp heath
looking good
storm jungle
atomic pelican
Ohhh that's cool
odd sparrow
it's the like, definitive warhammer style to me tbh
atomic pelican
I've never seen that art before
plush mason
imperial officers could have passed for a imperial guardsmen lol
odd sparrow
nothing beats it and i did not know that existed
storm jungle
I've never seen that art before
He has some rare AoS stuff take a look if you want on google!
odd sparrow
grimdark steampunk dwarves
atomic pelican
Nice!
odd sparrow
the best trio of words
crisp heath
also u can use real historical uniforms for inspo and it will look good. im using the prussian cuirassiers as ref for the commissar (replace hat)
odd sparrow
Funnily it does v much mean that you can kitbash historical models into 40k with impunity
atomic pelican
Ironclad gatling gun go brbrbrbrbr
storm jungle
also I like how with blanche's AoS art you can just see the manager on the side "no exposed tits or high heels mister blanche"
"You little shit do you know who i am"
dull flame
When Deathwatch shows up.. Yeah you better get runnin'
crisp heath
Funnily it does v much mean that you can kitbash historical models into 40k with...
ye and thats what i love
odd sparrow
stick a napoleonic ass helmet onto some IG model and just oh yea it's uhhh a traditionalist nobility-ish regiment
final spruce
Wdym
crisp heath
bc im nuts about ww2 and prior militaria
final spruce
Deathwatch works for the Inquisiton
crisp heath
i mean. the commissars literally wear hussar dolmans
final spruce
You're either executed or are unvoluntary drafted into a retenue
odd sparrow
yee
crisp heath
and the vostroyans wear 19th century busbies
storm jungle
i mean. the commissars literally wear hussar dolmans
even samurais can fit into 40k, just place a stupid aquila on their helmet and some skulls and you're set
plush mason
i like the other model of commissars
storm jungle
thats what GW does with all the regiments lol
plush mason
where they actual wear the overcoat
dull flame
Is it just me or is that guardsman in the image up there running away with Saruman's Palantir? 😛
storm jungle
^
crisp heath
just put a coat on a hussar like this and swap the hat again and bam. commissar
odd sparrow
invariably
plush mason
just put a coat on a hussar like this and swap the hat again and bam. commissar
it lacks the coatcape
storm jungle
Its as if GW is slightly unoriginal
odd sparrow
I kinda wanna just buy some zulu/boer war ish brits for that
storm jungle
👀
odd sparrow
gonna make some praetorians
storm jungle
Praetorians!
crisp heath
i just said put the coat on a hussar like this
odd sparrow
or whatever they were called
plush mason
oh mb
crisp heath
p much, and their reg uniform beside the coat is hussar or cuirassier
plush mason
i thought they got their name from the soviat commissars
crisp heath
yeah that was the primary inspiration afaik
dull flame
Get da mekboy to rewire da synapse fing and da boyz got themselves a looted carnifex.
crisp heath
the actual commissars looked p boring tho
final spruce
The 40 commissars are inspired from the Napoleonian war commissars
That did shoot the soldiers that tried to run away
plush mason
the actual commissars looked p boring tho
what did they wear anyway?
plush mason
That did shoot the soldiers that tried to run away
so did the soviat ones
crisp heath
yeah it was olive green
crisp heath
im not a big fan of soviet military aesthetics tbf
odd sparrow
That did shoot the soldiers that tried to run away
kinda imagining how that would work with muskets tbh
crisp heath
firmly convinced the germans did it best with the french as a close second
final spruce
I beleive the french did it before the russians on that one
But the 40k commissars are literally using the french coat + russian hat
odd sparrow
maybe i'm just biased against them cus nazis but imo the whole german uniform thing is overrated
storm jungle
Germans kind of looked cooler, especially since hugo boss pretty much made sure the outfits looked as good as possible for hte propaganda value
plush mason
https://i2.wp.com/www.studiolum.com/wang/russian/lwow-lvov-1939-14k.jpg
that looks a bit like the 40k commissars i like
atomic pelican
Germans kind of looked cooler, especially since hugo boss pretty much made sure ...
They were hardly functional t ho
FHJNFHN
atomic pelican
YEAH
storm jungle
BUT IS CRAP
atomic pelican
FHNDF
storm jungle
DFJDS
crisp heath
they were designed by some nazi resident designer
storm jungle
But yeah i just never say this outloud so people dont think im some facist or something lol
i just like clothes
crisp heath
but like, never has there been a better military fashion move than to put a whole ass eagle on your pickelhaube
ever
ever.
plush mason
iirc hitler himself claimed to have designed it much like he did the sawstica
crisp heath
and there never will be
odd sparrow
they're too tight and just. goose-steppy. The whole baggy pants going into high boots thing doesn't do it for me
storm jungle
iirc hitler himself claimed to have designed it much like he did the sawstica
Totally Original Design™️
odd sparrow
i prefer looser-ish uniforms personally
crisp heath
they're too tight and just. goose-steppy. The whole baggy pants going into high ...
i actually have such pants irl and they are super comfortable. ww1 patern
atomic pelican
The only thing Hitler designed was the splatter on the bunker wall omegalul
plush mason
LOL
rotund siren
The only thing Hitler designed was the splatter on the bunker wall omegalul
incredible
odd sparrow
good lord
atomic pelican
And mayb ethe streaks as the ruskis dragged his corpse through the streets
crisp heath
but dont shit on riding breeches
they are very comfortable for people with thicc thighs
atomic pelican
SIMP
odd sparrow
this is true
odd sparrow
eh like
rotund siren
unless it's a stupid uniform
atomic pelican
Killed fascists AND looked good doing it
odd sparrow
I'm not super into the whole uniform thing personally. It can look good but the whole military obsessed archetype usually vexes me
rotund siren
that is good
atomic pelican
I'm not super into the whole uniform thing personally. It can look good but the ...
Most ppl with a WW1/WW2 military obsession are... questionable at times
Not that they're all bad it just
crisp heath
look, im anti authoritarian. i just have a kink for uniforms and artillery.
atomic pelican
makes yo uthink
storm jungle
Most ppl with a WW1/WW2 military obsession are... questionable at times
SHUT UP HANS
atomic pelican
IM RIGHT.
rotund siren
you are right
crisp heath
...in my defense im obsessed about the renaissance too
odd sparrow
you've kinda gotta distinguish between the people who just like uniforms and like
that type
atomic pelican
Yee
rotund siren
yeah...
crisp heath
YEAH BOI
rotund siren
like, you can be interested in the stuff, but you can't be invested
atomic pelican
WHF was king shit for making a fantasy game about germanrenaissance stuff rather than generic english/french stuff
atomic pelican
Krubers got Girth alright.
crisp heath
LANDSKNECHTS BE ROCKIN
final spruce
They do
rotund siren
atomic pelican
Man, It'd be really cool if we got a special like, idk, christmas model or something for the U5 for AoS
odd sparrow
for T A A L
plush mason
for its funny how people get confused by the heavy german influnce on the FB empire when they say its based off the holy roman empire
final spruce
The Belgians + Germans had great style
crisp heath
MF REALLY INVENTED THE HOLY ROMAN HOT PANTS
storm jungle
Empire is just based on: EUROPE IDK
plush mason
i mean the germans ran the holy roman empire for over a thousand years
rotund siren
which is why the holy roman empire was not: Holy, Roman, or an empire
storm jungle
like "Markus Helborg"
odd sparrow
it's just [vague kinda witch hunting-ish renaissance europe]
crisp heath
THIS is why i said german military design is tops
storm jungle
and places like
crisp heath
landsknechts
storm jungle
"Schulessesstaffel"
odd sparrow
meanwhile bretonnia is just [vague chivalry obsessed 12th century europe]
rotund siren
hey
crisp heath
which is why the holy roman empire was not: Holy, Roman, or an empire
and thats a fucking lie that fucking bitch ass voltaire said
storm jungle
MY TONGUE HELP
odd sparrow
[also arthurian shit]
plush mason
which is why the holy roman empire was not: Holy, Roman, or an empire
corect it was a very losss alliance of many small kingdoms
atomic pelican
it's just [vague kinda witch hunting-ish renaissance europe]
It's really interesting too, I recently learned that Witch Hunts weren't really a thing in medieval/renaissance times. They were a early modern thing(Salem) exclusively p much
crisp heath
FUCK brettonia empire FOREVER
rotund siren
and thats a fucking lie that fucking bitch ass voltaire said
fine, it was a little holy
storm jungle
meanwhile bretonnia is just [vague chivalry obsessed 12th century europe]
Zhe Landy™️
odd sparrow
It's really interesting too, I recently learned that Witch Hunts weren't really ...
My understanding is witch hunts have been historically a little more archetypal to america yeah
dull flame
Lady of the lake bathwater giving them superpowers
crisp heath
It's really interesting too, I recently learned that Witch Hunts weren't really ...
yes the malleus maleficarum was penned in the 15th century and the witch hunts blossomed during the protestant-catholic wars
storm jungle
Especially the pilgrim hats i think?
rotund siren
It's because puritans
them bastards
plush mason
It's really interesting too, I recently learned that Witch Hunts weren't really ...
ummm in the dark ages that was not the case
storm jungle
i dont know why thats associated with witch hunters
atomic pelican
as Liecht said
crisp heath
also the dark ages is an outdated stupid fucking term
crisp heath
Always the worst kind of people and extremist ideologues obsessed with WWII uniforms
odd sparrow
cus like. puritans were basically just hey we're too crazy to be accepted here so lets go off into the new world so we can normalize our batshit teachings away from the religious and social establishment
crisp heath
it's early/high middle ages
atomic pelican
this is true
plush mason
over 3k people where burned at the stake in the first inqusition
atomic pelican
it's early/high middle ages
Ayy proper historical terms. Very Pog
crisp heath
man FUCK the puritans they were WACK
storm jungle
Isnt it called the dark ages because like
storm jungle
we know nothing about it?
crisp heath
Ayy proper historical terms. Very Pog
im a reenactor
odd sparrow
they ARE wack
rotund siren
time is wack and subjective
storm jungle
not that it was terrible
dull flame
Should we move this convo over to offtopic? Not really 40k lore anymore. xD
odd sparrow
literally just
atomic pelican
Niceo
plush mason
we know nothing about it?
no
storm jungle
MOVE TO OFF-TOPIC LADS
crisp heath
yeah lets move to off topic
storm jungle
MOVE IT MOVE IT!
odd sparrow
ye
plush mason
k
misty blaze
Hello fellow comrades of the Emperor, I have a question concerning known renegade regiments or chaos cults
I want to do a campaign in Dark Heresy for some friends (in order to see how I can improve myself in GM also) but I want to use Khornate or Tzeenchian cult or renegade guards. What are your advices for this ?
celest dome
Blood Cult is the biggest Traitor Regiment of Khorne
They are not crazed berserker but work mostly like the normal Guards (Lasgun/Autogun, with mostly Light Tank and Psyker/Gore Mage)
misty blaze
Blood Pact you mean ?
odd sparrow
Hello fellow comrades of the Emperor, I have a question concerning known renegad...
The sky's the limit with traitor guard, there are functionally infinite regiments you can write as going renegade for any reason. Like, if you wanna dedicate it to a particular god then you'll defo want to have them suit that god tho
Tzeentch is def the least common one for that. That tends to mean more into the like, secret society cult ish thing, it's probs easier to write about the other three gods or just chaos undivided
misty blaze
I have an vague idea of what I want to do but that's why I want to pick traitor guard or chaos cult which has a little lore
With this, I could write a homemade lore about that and adapt myself
Thank you for your advices. I'll check more about Tzeench cult or traitor guardsmen. It'll be really funny
odd sparrow
Yee you could defo just look around on lexicanum or whatever for a regiment that interests you
barren tapir
Anyone know what would have happened to the IG if GW did the fast forward thing with WH40K? Since the primaris were the new version of space marine what would have been the IG?
storm jungle
god thats a horrifying thing to think about
barren tapir
If we go by what TheNuclearMedic said the imperium would have been in a better state, so maybe the IG would may have been something more than "ah ah flashlight" or "we will drown in blood, ours or theirs" kinda stuff
storm jungle
honestly i wouldnt be surprised if GW did Primaris Guard at some point lol
the existence of Primaris Marines alone kind of shows they dont care much about the aesthetics of the universe as much anymore
rotund siren
Tempestus Scions Plus Ultra
barren tapir
Probably more on the line of the solar auxilia, i mean, the amazing thing about IG was that you could get different regiments, but if i understood that right, there are only cadians and some catachans available
barren tapir
I don't know, i like the setting and the lore, i'm not into models yet, but that is what i managed to get from people discussing models
atomic pelican
Yee thats p much right
They cut support for most regiments
Gotta make them primaris lieutenants
odd sparrow
oh yeah, they've progressively been cutting the available regiments down to basically nothing
like, one sec
tall fjord
im not saying i would enjoy primaris guardsmen, but if they gave the guard more twin barreled tanks, the mammoth tanks from command and conquer were super cool as shit, so i'd be down
barren tapir
Or probably they have already prepared the place for the new guard, which i must admit, i thought they were doing exactly that when they announced the tempestus scions from the ordo tempestus
odd sparrow
Yeah all we have on the site now is cadians, catachans and the old ass metal steel legion
votroyans, valhallans etc all gone
odd sparrow
im not saying i would enjoy primaris guardsmen, but if they gave the guard more ...
they do highkey need to just. go over some of the old kits
rotund siren
rest in pieces
odd sparrow
the cadian kit has overall aged pretty well but just
pls
it's been a long time
The catachans haven't aged so well.
and the aforementioned steel legion are still whole ass metal send help
it kinda seems like a trend to make armies more homogeneous in 40k. We've seen it with IG, tau ~everything is a mechsuit, much less focus on the auxiliaries~ and space marines with how primaris are all just
kinda uniform, across all chapters
it's pretty unfortunate
rotund siren
making it easy for themselves, it seems
primal tide
Anyone know what would have happened to the IG if GW did the fast forward thing ...
Simple- all guard are cadians now. After cadia was destroyed the cadian diaspora seeded the cadian line throughout the entire guard who are now all cadians. Cadians everywhere. Cadians
primal tide
For cadia and the four armed emporer!
storm jungle
nOOO
fallen dove
Like genestealer cults
kriegers are to an extent are they not?
primal tide
Time to make some more cadians, pucker up boyo
storm jungle
actually yeah good example
storm jungle
Time to make some more cadians, pucker up boyo
also jokes aside they more or so actually do this, aka make babies in ships during trips to other warzones
fallen dove
ive always assumed the evolution of th IG was one where the troops terrified the commissars
to the point where they are there to make sure the troops DONT kill themselfves
primal tide
also jokes aside they more or so actually do this, aka make babies in ships duri...
I mean, what other entertainment is there on a super long voyage
Gotta keep morale up
storm jungle
barren tapir
It is not entertainment, it is close quarter combat practice, and the fact that they keep doing practice even in their rooms (if they have them) is just a testament to their duty...
barren tapir
We can start again if you have something to say
final spruce
Well I'd need to read eveyrhting again
I was busy changing my tires and wrapping gifts
Well I had a quick look and Tempestus could be considered the Primaris Marines of guardsmen
They are deepstrike specialists with nicer equipment and better training
kind dove
Kasrkins are a type of Tempestus Scion, specific to Cadia right? Essentially the same in general?
Cuz my god were their description/skills in Eisenhorn series were badass
barren tapir
Yes, they are tempestus scions equivalent, the most promising solder in the youth armies (also called whiteshield) were taken to become kasrkin, they are trained in different places and the training is harsh
ashen zenith
do all imperial worlds follow the same economic systems? or can they choose lets say if they want to have a capitalist or communist system as long as they pay their tithe?
final spruce
It depends of the planet
But yes each world is free to have their own economical system as long as the tithe is paid and they revere the Emepror
barren tapir
As long the world pay the imperial tithe they are free to do whatever they want unless it conflict with the imperial law... Unless you are a frontier world, then you are really free to do whatever you want
rotund smelt
That is pretty accurate.
odd sparrow
yee, meaning if you're writing a 40k thing you have immense freedom with how you wanna do individual words/systems/cultures inside the imperium
ashen zenith
does that go for the local government systems too? like if one planet wants to have a democratic system for its officials
odd sparrow
plus heck they can even get away with not paying their tithe for a while, until they get assblasted into the warp once the imperial bureaucracy notices after some decades
yee
it can be done in any way. Usually black library writers just default to an aristocratic oligarchical thing, with the pampered ruling class having fancy estates etc, but it can be anything
the imperium isn't bothered
knotty cove
shoot people in the streets? pay ur tithes. communist society? pay ur tithes. pure fuckin' anarchy? pay ur tithes
ashen zenith
i think the anarchy one isnt possible right? cause it would count as a revolt against the planetary governor i imagine
barren tapir
does that go for the local government systems too? like if one planet wants to h...
Yes, but also no, democracy and progress is seen as heresy, the imperium also like to have just one guy to talk with when they have to collect stuff, there is also the thing about religious doctrine where the planetary governor is chosen by the emperor so it cannot changed unless someone more chosen manage to get the power and all that stuff
ashen zenith
so the cutoff is at the planetary governor
barren tapir
Tanith had an elector, but i don't know if it was really elected by people or by nobles or it was just a name
odd sparrow
I don't imagine it would be an issue so long as the tithes are paid somehow. which would honestly be something that's interesting to explore
ashen zenith
so as long as there is a planetary governor, religious institution, pays tithes, and has rule of law
odd sparrow
a complete anarchy that is still able to collectively recognise that they need to satisfy the imperial authorities
ashen zenith
it can be anything after that
odd sparrow
tbh I'd honestly just draw the line at pays their tithes
ashen zenith
idk from what ive read it seems the arbites are not too happy if there is rampant murder and high level crime going on in a planet
barren tapir
Kinda yes, but remember that if you harbor dangerous ideas, like the fact that all governors should be elected, then the imperium will use the heresy casus belli
odd sparrow
probs no guarantee that would even be arbites on every world
remember that hella imperial worlds will have little to no infrastructure at all. Like, a very low population, few urban-ish areas
odd sparrow
Kinda yes, but remember that if you harbor dangerous ideas, like the fact that a...
yee i think it would reasonably depend on how much scrutiny a world is under
some inquisitor or other imperial authority might show up to whip them back into being ideal citizens if the world is showing some undesirable practices or whatever
barren tapir
Also, you can revolt against the planetary governor, but still be loyal to the imperium and it will simply ignore what happened
odd sparrow
but the imperial authority would probably have to show up before knowing that, i don't imagine the imperial bureaucracy places every individual world they have listed under enough scrutiny to really notice
barren tapir
Unless the planetary governor was appointed by the imperium
barren tapir
In summary, it is hella complicated
ashen zenith
i guess that makes sense, if a planet gets to the point of an entire revolution against the governor he was probably fucking up big time so its better he gets replaced
odd sparrow
ye. Like, the general vibe is that the imperium doesn't tend to give a fuck, they have about a million planets to keep track of and a lot can fly under the radar, be lazily ignored or be strategically ignored
barren tapir
There are a lot of factors at play in that
odd sparrow
plus the imperium is awful at keeping track of its territory
rotund smelt
Well, ya a system can go out of compliance for years or decades and then it take just as long for the Imperium to think about dealing with it.
odd sparrow
big important worlds might be kept under a close eye but some random death world halfway across the galaxy with a population of 500,000 probably won't get much attention, even from the sector level-ish governance
barren tapir
The imperium is awful at a lot of things
odd sparrow
ye, it's 50/50 proactively terrible and hilariously incompetent
barren tapir
Well, ya a system can go out of compliance for years or decades and then it take...
True, but when it do and if there are no other things more pressing, well ,that is bad
odd sparrow
the imperium is a mood
ashen zenith
i mean you cant really fault the imperium on that, bureaucracy in an empire with a million planets and no instant way to transport messages will always be shit
knotty cove
the imperium is the epitome of "i'll do it tomorrow"
barren tapir
There are also people trying to improve it, but it is so bloated that it would probably better really to sacrifice some territory to consolidate and get more stable, but that also conflict with the doctrine of "MuH gAlAxY"
open marsh
There are also people trying to improve it, but it is so bloated that it would p...
Even Guilliman was like "....aw fuck"
barren tapir
Yeah, but was also for other reasons, mostly the thing with the ministrorum... He had so much hope that people would not devolve into religious fanatics and instead he found out what he most feared...
ashen zenith
further the roman parallel by splitting the empire into 2
(didnt that happen actually)
odd sparrow
lol yea the logistics of running a galaxy wide empire in the 40k setting, with the technology they have, is just
barren tapir
I imagine he was like "damn, i'm still in the nightmare"
odd sparrow
especially given how deeply boned it is
Girlyman couldn't even fully piece together the full human calendar iirc
10k years of grimdark and 5k years of even deeper grimdark before that kinda sets progress back to zero
barren tapir
Yeah, he managed to narrow it to "we may be in the last years of the M41 or in the first years of M42"
open marsh
I imagine he was like "damn, i'm still in the nightmare"
He briefly considered that maybe they should have let Horus win and destroy the whole Imperium rather than it become what it has
barren tapir
The thing is that with the warp you cannot even have accurate timing calculations
barren tapir
He briefly considered that maybe they *should* have let Horus win and destroy th...
I know, it is what he say, or what he tought, when talking to the emperor IIRC
Or just before meeting him
thin horizon
So I've decided on my custom regiment, just working on some specifics. Fairly excited.
barren tapir
Uuuuhhh, interesting, give details if you want
thin horizon
Thinking the regiment nickname will be "Vitrifiers" or "Glassmakers". Infantry, flamers, and maxed out deathstrikes
Pile on objectives, melt enemy obsec
Nuke the biggest formation or unit
Repeatedly
You'll get the world back
Better than losing it, but not by much
barren tapir
That sound a lot similar to the miasman redcowls... They too get the world bakc, but a bit charred
rotund siren
"Glassmakers" sounds very dramatic, but also kinda misleading
if I heard it in passing, I'd probably take it literally
and expect them to have glass weapons or something
celest dome
Or Glass shard armour
barren tapir
There is a regiment that use glass like armours IIRC, in ghostmaker, from the tanith series (amazing series)
celest dome
That what I was thinking of
primal tide
Glassers might work better, the word is pretty much only used as a verb in reference to intense bombing
rotund siren
true
primal tide
just a suggestion, I like them as is tho
potent swift
"Sintering is the process of compacting and forming a solid mass of material by heat or pressure without melting it to the point of liquefaction."
The Sintermen?
thin horizon
You do know atomic bombs leave glass at the site, right? And I assume flamers can hit the melting point of sand, probably
The name is supposed to sound dramatic
storm jungle
I actually heard a similiar thing to this in r/40klore
in that case it was "What happens if a lasgun pierces the sand in a sandbag"
And some people made up the fact that it probably actually turns it into glass and the guardsmen rarely do it to pass the time here and there
i liked it