#40k-lore-chat | Darktide | Page 1829

buoyant crypt Dec 15, 2020, 9:49 PM

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when are one of the primaris just gonna go join the orks

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thats the timeline we need

storm jungle Dec 15, 2020, 9:49 PM

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^

kind dove Dec 15, 2020, 9:49 PM

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I mean Vulkan is half orc now

velvet yarrow Dec 15, 2020, 9:50 PM

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they are the only race that can actually be happy in a way thats not evil

half gull Dec 15, 2020, 9:50 PM

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think current lore for grotsnik actually talks about him taking primaris because he is trying to make primorks

buoyant crypt Dec 15, 2020, 9:50 PM

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i mean

half gull Dec 15, 2020, 9:50 PM

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like in the book

buoyant crypt Dec 15, 2020, 9:50 PM

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i think thats a stretch lol

crisp heath Dec 15, 2020, 9:50 PM

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in their worldview. objectively it's still evil

storm jungle Dec 15, 2020, 9:50 PM

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Yeah they take slaves and stuff sometimes too

velvet yarrow Dec 15, 2020, 9:50 PM

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oh huh

crisp heath Dec 15, 2020, 9:50 PM

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it still wreaks destruction and kills all other lifeforms

half gull Dec 15, 2020, 9:51 PM

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crisp heath in their worldview. objectively it's still evil

who is to say our view is correct? we aint orks

buoyant crypt Dec 15, 2020, 9:51 PM

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yeah but theyare just trying to have fun you know, its not their fault that involves war and slavery

storm jungle Dec 15, 2020, 9:51 PM

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Man this is REALLY BIG FINKIN'

atomic pelican Dec 15, 2020, 9:51 PM

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FINK PIECE

storm jungle Dec 15, 2020, 9:51 PM

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I wish universities talked about stuff like this lol

buoyant crypt Dec 15, 2020, 9:51 PM

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orks will be orks

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Smug

crisp heath Dec 15, 2020, 9:51 PM

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idk man i think killing sentient beings that have not attacked or threatened you first is like objectively evil

storm jungle Dec 15, 2020, 9:51 PM

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OrkCunnin

storm jungle Dec 15, 2020, 9:51 PM

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crisp heath idk man i think killing sentient beings that have not attacked or threatened you...

literally humans

primal tide Dec 15, 2020, 9:51 PM

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An ork think tank is just a tank filled with weirdboyz

crisp heath Dec 15, 2020, 9:52 PM

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if it's not for survival

half gull Dec 15, 2020, 9:52 PM

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dont fink too 'ard or you might explode like a warp'ead

kind dove Dec 15, 2020, 9:52 PM

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This git finkin in red ova ‘ere

velvet yarrow Dec 15, 2020, 9:52 PM

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phd in 40k anthropology

crisp heath Dec 15, 2020, 9:52 PM

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yeah humans are evil asf

storm jungle Dec 15, 2020, 9:52 PM

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KFKJSDK

atomic pelican Dec 15, 2020, 9:52 PM

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Imo things which are animalistic/behaving on primal instincts cant be evil due to lack of malevolence(tyrannids eating, orkz fighting)

storm jungle Dec 15, 2020, 9:52 PM

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Yeah i was just saying that for irony sorry

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also yeah Aun fair point

crisp heath Dec 15, 2020, 9:52 PM

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well from a subjective viewpoint of theirs it's not evil as the motivations are not evil

atomic pelican Dec 15, 2020, 9:52 PM

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But that falls under your purview of philosophy

crisp heath Dec 15, 2020, 9:52 PM

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but it has a negative result for

atomic pelican Dec 15, 2020, 9:52 PM

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And im just a blueman

crisp heath Dec 15, 2020, 9:52 PM

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literally everything else

atomic pelican Dec 15, 2020, 9:52 PM

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Bluegal

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Blue supreme?

storm jungle Dec 15, 2020, 9:52 PM

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i think the deal with the orks is that they got no moral code, fighting is like, just a "thing" for them

atomic pelican Dec 15, 2020, 9:52 PM

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DHSBD

kind dove Dec 15, 2020, 9:52 PM

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Blue man group

half gull Dec 15, 2020, 9:52 PM

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they also dont really think about this stuff

buoyant crypt Dec 15, 2020, 9:53 PM

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idk, my mother instinctively drinks straight out of the milk carton but i still think its evil

crisp heath Dec 15, 2020, 9:53 PM

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so we can ascribe it the identifier of 'evil' the way it works in our language and moral conceptions or at least that of 'dangerous' or 'detrimental'

atomic pelican Dec 15, 2020, 9:53 PM

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EWW

half gull Dec 15, 2020, 9:53 PM

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they dont have a Sorkrates debating how moral it all is

buoyant crypt Dec 15, 2020, 9:53 PM

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Heresy

half gull Dec 15, 2020, 9:53 PM

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Sorkrates is probably one right big thinker though

storm jungle Dec 15, 2020, 9:53 PM

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half gull Sorkrates is probably one right big thinker though

Orkimedes tho!

crisp heath Dec 15, 2020, 9:53 PM

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chaos also operates instinctively in a sense? innately? still evil tho

velvet yarrow Dec 15, 2020, 9:53 PM

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yeah there brain works well enough for them to collectively believe the hunks of steal they make look like a face can fly and then thats about it as far as rational thought goes

half gull Dec 15, 2020, 9:53 PM

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storm jungle Orkimedes tho!

do they actually have a character named orkimedes!?

storm jungle Dec 15, 2020, 9:54 PM

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YES

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LOL

half gull Dec 15, 2020, 9:54 PM

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NO WAY

storm jungle Dec 15, 2020, 9:54 PM

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HE DEVISED THE ATTACK ON ARMAGEDDON

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KUNNIN' LAD

half gull Dec 15, 2020, 9:54 PM

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LOL

storm jungle Dec 15, 2020, 9:54 PM

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https://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Orkimedes

Orkimedes

half gull Dec 15, 2020, 9:54 PM

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what a smart git

storm jungle Dec 15, 2020, 9:54 PM

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Sadly short as hell lore

kind dove Dec 15, 2020, 9:54 PM

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Ork gestalt is keeping the Emperor alive

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My fave fan theory

storm jungle Dec 15, 2020, 9:54 PM

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Orks are too kunnin for this world

half gull Dec 15, 2020, 9:55 PM

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my favorite fan theory is the same thing for yarrik

crisp heath Dec 15, 2020, 9:55 PM

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ordo xenos inquisitor interviewing orks in captivity

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thats what i wanna see

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asking all the big questions

primal tide Dec 15, 2020, 9:56 PM

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Mechanicus taking an ork gun apart:
"the fuck?? This thing is HOLLOW"

storm jungle Dec 15, 2020, 9:56 PM

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crisp heath ordo xenos inquisitor interviewing orks in captivity

closest we have is xenology

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and thats oooold

storm jungle Dec 15, 2020, 9:56 PM

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primal tide Mechanicus taking an ork gun apart: "the fuck?? This thing is HOLLOW"

also that happens lol

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the priest is like

primal tide Dec 15, 2020, 9:56 PM

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I know lol

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It's great

storm jungle Dec 15, 2020, 9:56 PM

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"THE MAGAZINE ISNT EVEN ATTACHED TO THE BARREL WTF"

half gull Dec 15, 2020, 9:56 PM

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i think more recently they say that does not happen with the lower tech stuff as much

storm jungle Dec 15, 2020, 9:56 PM

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lmao

half gull Dec 15, 2020, 9:57 PM

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it really happens with the crazier bits

atomic pelican Dec 15, 2020, 9:57 PM

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Ork tech matching who they fight is funny

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Or evolging with who they fight

crisp heath Dec 15, 2020, 9:57 PM

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gorkanauts are just big piles of scrap

atomic pelican Dec 15, 2020, 9:57 PM

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Iirc when the Tau first came to save the Kroot from the Orkz on Pech, they instantly blew up their ships until the orkz tinkered and came back with more formidable finkin

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Since they were adapted to fighting Kroot

kind dove Dec 15, 2020, 10:01 PM

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The scary thing is the orks as a species aren’t threatened enough by anything in the Milky Way that they need to evolve past their current state

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That should be more terrifying than nids surrounding the Milky Way

half gull Dec 15, 2020, 10:02 PM

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whats the name of the planet that has like a big ol waaagh, a hive fleet, and a bunch of khorne guys fighting over it?

atomic pelican Dec 15, 2020, 10:02 PM

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There probably isn't even an upper limit on Ork Power

half gull Dec 15, 2020, 10:02 PM

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i read there is some big ol mosh pit going on there because all 3 just want to kill/consume one another

storm jungle Dec 15, 2020, 10:02 PM

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Octarius!

velvet yarrow Dec 15, 2020, 10:02 PM

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do orks even have a power limit

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guess theres no way of knowing given they are done trying to evolve

half gull Dec 15, 2020, 10:03 PM

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this is not even their final form

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they still have not even shown us the fusion-ha

kind dove Dec 15, 2020, 10:04 PM

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They are genetically predisposed to evolve as their threats increase

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Orks on feudal worlds never develop gunpowder weapons

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But imagine a threat pushes them back into being Krorks

rotund siren Dec 15, 2020, 10:06 PM

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so, what, they devolved because nothing threatened them?

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that's wild

kind dove Dec 15, 2020, 10:06 PM

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Old ones built them that way

rotund siren Dec 15, 2020, 10:06 PM

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imagine becoming dumber because you don't have anyone who can fight you

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Huh

half gull Dec 15, 2020, 10:06 PM

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yeah i think its suggested that their 'brain boys' that just 'know stuff' dont show up if they are not threatened enough

velvet yarrow Dec 15, 2020, 10:06 PM

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the old ones also forgot to install an off switch

rotund siren Dec 15, 2020, 10:06 PM

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Did they do that so that they could control them or something? Like, what's the purpose of being able to devolve?

kind dove Dec 15, 2020, 10:07 PM

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Krorks and Eldar were made to combat the Necron/Ctan menace wiping the galaxy during war in heaven

half gull Dec 15, 2020, 10:07 PM

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because if they didnt they would be orkanids

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always up

buoyant crypt Dec 15, 2020, 10:07 PM

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efficiency

atomic pelican Dec 15, 2020, 10:07 PM

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so their tabletop games would remain balanced

kind dove Dec 15, 2020, 10:08 PM

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You don’t want to develop a species that’ll wipe you out if they decide you are the next good fight

buoyant crypt Dec 15, 2020, 10:08 PM

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animal instincts usually dictate not spending any more energy then you need to

crisp heath Dec 15, 2020, 10:09 PM

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its like a screen fade setting

kind dove Dec 15, 2020, 10:12 PM

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When the Orks start communicating better, wearing uniform armor and their Deff Dreads start looking like Gundams, then the Oh Crap Panic button needs to be hit in the Imperium

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Cuz something bad is coming

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One of the reason Cryptmann got such trouble (other than exterminatus-ing hundreds of planets) was because he drove a hive fleet into a massive waagh. They are both locked in an ever expanding conflict. One keeps gaining biomass, the other constantly evolving to combat the threat

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Who knows what the outcome will be

plucky moth Dec 15, 2020, 10:19 PM

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Ork Marines

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Orkstartes

dull flame Dec 15, 2020, 10:19 PM

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https://1d4chan.org/wiki/Story:The_Shape_Of_The_Nightmare_To_Come_50k Offers an idea of what becomes of that war. Ork and Tyranid merge to make a new being that destroys the galaxy

Story:The Shape Of The Nightmare To Come 50k

plucky moth Dec 15, 2020, 10:20 PM

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Mareenz

edgy fiber Dec 15, 2020, 10:35 PM

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plucky moth Ork Marines

Basically the original Krorks

kind dove Dec 15, 2020, 10:39 PM

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Krorks are Primaris Orks

final spruce Dec 15, 2020, 10:40 PM

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They are the firstborn orks

crisp heath Dec 15, 2020, 10:40 PM

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first born orks yeah

knotty cove Dec 15, 2020, 11:55 PM

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🍴

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forks

tall fjord Dec 15, 2020, 11:59 PM

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on the topic of burning orks

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i never felt it was well answered

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what would happen, if you ate fried ork

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you kill an ork warboss with a flamer, "we ran out of food three weeks ago......ork is still technically meat right"

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"spores, so, they're mushrooms"

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"......fried mushroom is a thing"

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nid is in a similar boat

final spruce Dec 16, 2020, 12:01 AM

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Guardsmen have already mentionend eating orks

tall fjord Dec 16, 2020, 12:01 AM

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oh? we had a discussion about it awhile back in the rimworld discord

final spruce Dec 16, 2020, 12:01 AM

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I believe tyranids however are hungry up to the cell so if ate some nids you'd be eaten from the inside by tiny cells

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We already had an argument about what would happen if an ork ate a nid

atomic pelican Dec 16, 2020, 12:05 AM

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Kroot specifically dont eat Nids and I think thats why

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the weird nature of their genome

kind dove Dec 16, 2020, 12:12 AM

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Yeah they can also taste genestealer infection

atomic pelican Dec 16, 2020, 12:18 AM

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Yee It's rlly neat

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Voices of Experience is a cool short book

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love the Kar'Tyr

rotund siren Dec 16, 2020, 12:23 AM

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Kroot can taste genestealer?

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SICK

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One more reason why Kroot are great

atomic pelican Dec 16, 2020, 12:24 AM

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Yess they use this to sniff out GSC's

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It's p cool

final spruce Dec 16, 2020, 12:26 AM

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I mean Kroots shapers can taste genetics so it would make sense they could detect altered DNA

rotund siren Dec 16, 2020, 12:28 AM

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which is very cool and awesome of them

atomic pelican Dec 16, 2020, 12:30 AM

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based and krootpilled

crisp heath Dec 16, 2020, 12:30 AM

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walking fatherhood test

final spruce Dec 16, 2020, 12:32 AM

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tastes an ear You're not the father

rotund siren Dec 16, 2020, 12:32 AM

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lmao

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I think kroot rifles are sweet, but that's mostly because I like single-shot rifles that can basically insta-kill

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I know that there is a version that isn't single shot

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but shhhh

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Kroot are deadass "reject humanity, return to monke"

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which makes them the best

atomic pelican Dec 16, 2020, 12:37 AM

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YES

simple elbow Dec 16, 2020, 12:49 AM

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Ogryn or Ork Nob?

final spruce Dec 16, 2020, 12:51 AM

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Ogryn

kind dove Dec 16, 2020, 1:14 AM

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Kroot also have a sense of humor which is cool. Everyone’s favorite Commisar Cain befriended a kroot team leader and was actually pretty cool with him before he was shredded to pieces by genestealer pure strains

rotund siren Dec 16, 2020, 1:15 AM

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F

kind dove Dec 16, 2020, 1:15 AM

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They were in a shitty situation and the kroot made a sly joke. And laughed at Cain. Kinda cool adding some spice to the species.

rotund siren Dec 16, 2020, 1:16 AM

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that is nice

crisp heath Dec 16, 2020, 1:18 AM

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so if you didnt see the memes chat khaine is confirmed to be dummy thicc. it is up to you great scholars to figure out what this means for the universe as a whole

rotund siren Dec 16, 2020, 1:18 AM

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he's got defined muscles

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Perils Unknown by Lewis Jones
Any idea what any of these are, or are these original xenos?

📎 image.png

ancient kayak Dec 16, 2020, 1:34 AM

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If I remember right they are just Xenos I think the art was to show that there are more aliens attacking humans then the big ones the table top covers

rotund siren Dec 16, 2020, 1:35 AM

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I think it's neat, and definitely a good way of showing that

ancient kayak Dec 16, 2020, 1:35 AM

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Yep it does it’s job well

rotund siren Dec 16, 2020, 1:36 AM

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The gunshrooms are top tier

storm jungle Dec 16, 2020, 1:41 AM

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I hate that GW makes these

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then forget OTHER aliens ever exist

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then its back to Orks/Tau/Necrons/Eldar again lol

rotund siren Dec 16, 2020, 1:41 AM

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yeah

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I wanna see weird, new xenos

storm jungle Dec 16, 2020, 1:42 AM

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Sol you'd love the epilepsy ones

rotund siren Dec 16, 2020, 1:42 AM

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EH?

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Cyberpunk 2077 xenos?

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pog

storm jungle Dec 16, 2020, 1:42 AM

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https://wh40k.lexicanum.com/mediawiki/images/thumb/6/68/Thyrrus_battle.jpg/300px-Thyrrus_battle.jpg

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https://wh40k.lexicanum.com/mediawiki/images/9/92/Thyrrus_soliloqun.jpg

rotund siren Dec 16, 2020, 1:42 AM

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ph

storm jungle Dec 16, 2020, 1:42 AM

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the entire purpose of this alien's life according to the wiki

rotund siren Dec 16, 2020, 1:42 AM

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oh

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gross

storm jungle Dec 16, 2020, 1:42 AM

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is to make the biggest lightshow imaginable

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then die

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lol

rotund siren Dec 16, 2020, 1:43 AM

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wow

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iconic

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but why do they look like shitty snails put on top of a pile of worms?

storm jungle Dec 16, 2020, 1:43 AM

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You should see their dissection photo

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https://i.pinimg.com/474x/ec/74/77/ec7477edadc04aa52bfb7debfa622164.jpg

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F L E S H

potent swift Dec 16, 2020, 1:44 AM

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storm jungle then forget OTHER aliens ever exist

Honestly, that was the biggest thing I liked about their other games like Blackstone Fortress. Let's them shine a light on other weird stuff without having to slap together a whole army for it.

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Granted, in that case, it was just Zoats and the Spindle Drones but the potential is there.

storm jungle Dec 16, 2020, 1:45 AM

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Yeah you get it!

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I love how people were defending that artwork and being like "and people say other aliens race dont exist in 40k"

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they dont in a week or so after that thing gets left in the dust lol

potent swift Dec 16, 2020, 1:47 AM

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Let's be real, Tau are the perfect candidate to show off all the weird aliens that exists in 40K and every time they add a new battlesuit instead is a tragedy.

storm jungle Dec 16, 2020, 1:47 AM

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PREACH

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while GW also goes

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"Kroot what? Is that a plant?"

rotund siren Dec 16, 2020, 1:47 AM

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True, they do make a lot of allies

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;-;

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Kroot best bois

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they deserve Arcadia

potent swift Dec 16, 2020, 1:53 AM

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I see your kroot and raise you Vespid Stingwings. I appreciate bug people that aren't Tyranids, shame GW doesn't.

rotund siren Dec 16, 2020, 1:53 AM

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this is fair

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respect

kind dove Dec 16, 2020, 1:55 AM

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Hrud are cool as hell too

rotund siren Dec 16, 2020, 1:56 AM

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what is this

📎 latest.png

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is this a swamp thing?

storm jungle Dec 16, 2020, 1:57 AM

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Man hrud are goddamn wacky

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really suggest you read up on em

potent swift Dec 16, 2020, 1:57 AM

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They do something with time/entropy, right?

storm jungle Dec 16, 2020, 1:57 AM

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Ye!

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They apparently are going backwards in time

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running from something

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Which led some theorisers to think they might be heavily mutated/evolved humans among other crazy stuff

rotund siren Dec 16, 2020, 1:58 AM

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wow

potent swift Dec 16, 2020, 1:58 AM

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That's wild and I love it

rotund siren Dec 16, 2020, 1:58 AM

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creepy

potent swift Dec 16, 2020, 1:59 AM

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Trayzn also has a giant terrarium full of them in his museum.

rotund siren Dec 16, 2020, 1:59 AM

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how?

storm jungle Dec 16, 2020, 1:59 AM

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Oh man trazyn

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so his museum mostly has like

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everything in stasis

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aka frozen like a mannequin

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due to OP necron tech

rotund siren Dec 16, 2020, 2:00 AM

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ah

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what a creep

potent swift Dec 16, 2020, 2:01 AM

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If you haven't read it, I highly recommend The Infinite and the Divine. Basically, it's Trazyn and Orikan trolling each other for ten thousand years. Lots of good Newcron stuff in it.

gray trellis Dec 16, 2020, 2:02 AM

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hi

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what did i missed?

rotund siren Dec 16, 2020, 2:03 AM

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Weirdos appreciation

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Weirdos being, of course, a portmanteau of weird and xenos

buoyant crypt Dec 16, 2020, 2:09 AM

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A port what

rotund siren Dec 16, 2020, 2:11 AM

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a combination of two words

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like motel

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or the word portmanteau

crisp heath Dec 16, 2020, 2:15 AM

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wait what is motel a combination of

potent swift Dec 16, 2020, 2:15 AM

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Motor Hotel

rotund siren Dec 16, 2020, 2:16 AM

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yes

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thank you

atomic pelican Dec 16, 2020, 2:17 AM

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vespids are chad

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wish they had more lore

rotund siren Dec 16, 2020, 2:18 AM

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kinda wish a lot of stuff had some equal representation

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even if it doesn't sell minis

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;-;

atomic pelican Dec 16, 2020, 2:18 AM

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The worst part is that they would sell if they actually supported them

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Ppl love the auxillaries

rotund siren Dec 16, 2020, 2:18 AM

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T-T

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GW faced Basil II, but he took their ears instead of their eyes

atomic pelican Dec 16, 2020, 2:19 AM

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Oof!

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Maybe Kroot and stuff will get bette rin the new tau codex this coming year

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perhaps

tall fjord Dec 16, 2020, 2:19 AM

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probably not so much now, GW is going to be abit pressed in the age of 3d printing, why buy overpriced models when you can print anything you want

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the printed ones will be more durable too since it's all a single piece

rotund siren Dec 16, 2020, 2:20 AM

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huh

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what will they do?

atomic pelican Dec 16, 2020, 2:20 AM

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Probably have to figure a fair pricing range instead of what it is now

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FUHFHNU

tall fjord Dec 16, 2020, 2:20 AM

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they've tried to ban 3d printed models and so on so you cant use them in tourneys and the like to varying degrees of success

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to their advantage, 3d printing is still new and expensive enough that we don't see ALOT of it but when the tech becomes more widespread they'll be in serious trouble

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course, not just them, if you have the REALLY advanced models of 3d printer you can make working firearms, and i don't mean the junky plastic ones

rotund siren Dec 16, 2020, 2:22 AM

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huh

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that is

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hmmm

atomic pelican Dec 16, 2020, 2:22 AM

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I mean you can 3D print a army cheaper than you can buy one right now but ppl still buy

rotund siren Dec 16, 2020, 2:22 AM

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https://tenor.com/view/concern-robot-gif-9226335

Tenor

tall fjord Dec 16, 2020, 2:22 AM

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as i said, how many people actually know a guy with a 3d printer?

rotund siren Dec 16, 2020, 2:23 AM

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this is true, that is rare

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for now

atomic pelican Dec 16, 2020, 2:23 AM

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3D printers are cheaper than most full armies rn I believe

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40k at least

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AoS is cheaper

tall fjord Dec 16, 2020, 2:23 AM

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this also is true

rotund siren Dec 16, 2020, 2:23 AM

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wow

tall fjord Dec 16, 2020, 2:23 AM

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well

rotund siren Dec 16, 2020, 2:23 AM

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that's nutty

potent swift Dec 16, 2020, 2:23 AM

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My old roommate was into 3D printing and none of the stuff he made held a candle to any of my models.

tall fjord Dec 16, 2020, 2:23 AM

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as long as you aren't buying the fancy ones that can print 1911's, ak's and AR-15's then yeah, 3d printers are cheaper than a full army

atomic pelican Dec 16, 2020, 2:23 AM

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Yeeah that's another thing, a lot of time 3D prints dont look too good

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I think it depends on the material used and the printer?

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I'm unsure, not too keen on the specifics

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Eventually u right tho, GW is going to have to make their price ranges not stupid if they don't want to be grinded up by 3D printing becoming mainstream

potent swift Dec 16, 2020, 2:25 AM

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There's also the process of programming the model itself. A few times he'd try to print something but the machine would screw up a single bit and it would throw off everything else and just be a mess.

tall fjord Dec 16, 2020, 2:25 AM

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as i said, it's still new and expensive enough that they shouldn't be worried yet

atomic pelican Dec 16, 2020, 2:25 AM

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yesss

tall fjord Dec 16, 2020, 2:25 AM

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but they still need to keep an eye on it

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technology has heavily impacted MANY industries that chose to ignore it

rotund siren Dec 16, 2020, 2:27 AM

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this is true

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3D printing is anticipated to be used for food in a few decades

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or less

tall fjord Dec 16, 2020, 2:27 AM

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they're already looking into it right now

rotund siren Dec 16, 2020, 2:27 AM

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I think someone 3D printed a real simple food sometime recently

potent swift Dec 16, 2020, 2:27 AM

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GW is a lot better at keeping up with trends nowadays than they were before.

rotund siren Dec 16, 2020, 2:27 AM

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then we'll have to see how they adjust

tall fjord Dec 16, 2020, 2:29 AM

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they havent been so great at adjusting thus far, i'm sure many of us here played dawn of war 1 and 2, and then chose NOT to play 3

rotund siren Dec 16, 2020, 2:29 AM

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ah well, gtg

tall fjord Dec 16, 2020, 2:29 AM

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but then again many of their other new titles have been hits

potent swift Dec 16, 2020, 2:29 AM

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Ever since Kirby left, GW has changed for the better. I'm pretty sure they didn't even have a marketing team until Rountree took over

tall fjord Dec 16, 2020, 2:29 AM

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darktide for example looks good, i just hope we get proper customization

atomic pelican Dec 16, 2020, 2:29 AM

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If ur just talking about video games its always been hit/miss

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the tabletop itself is doing fine.

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9e has some problems but its mostly because outdated codexes + PRIMARIS MARINE TIDE

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WH games have this curse of 75% of them being awful

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sadly

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They just get thrown under the rug and we forget about them

potent swift Dec 16, 2020, 2:31 AM

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When it's good, it's fantastic. When it's bad, it's real bad.

atomic pelican Dec 16, 2020, 2:31 AM

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Yeeep

verbal nest Dec 16, 2020, 12:47 PM

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Is there anything special about Roboute beyond wielding the emperor's sword, having spoken with the Emperor, and being a primarch?

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What's his niche? Coz im pretty sure each primarch had their own thing they were really good at

tall fjord Dec 16, 2020, 12:48 PM

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if memory serves he was the most generic one of them all

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so, i guess he's the one closest to what the emperor was out of the remaining loyalist primarchs

verbal nest Dec 16, 2020, 12:49 PM

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Where was he all this time during 40k?

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I heard he just dissapeared

tall fjord Dec 16, 2020, 12:49 PM

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asleep i think, but most of them have similar stories

verbal nest Dec 16, 2020, 12:50 PM

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It would be interesting if GW takes the leap where the emperor may or may not possess Roboute

tall fjord Dec 16, 2020, 12:50 PM

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Lion'el johnson is asleep too, Janghatai Khan kind of just fucked off and is supposedly just fucking with the dark eldar

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Leman Russ kinda did the same

verbal nest Dec 16, 2020, 12:50 PM

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I've never heard of those 2 primarchs

final spruce Dec 16, 2020, 12:51 PM

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He isn't very generic

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Roboute is actually the God of Logistics

tall fjord Dec 16, 2020, 12:51 PM

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Corax and Vulkan apparently did the same as well

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then there's two lost primarchs which we don't talk about

verbal nest Dec 16, 2020, 12:52 PM

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Does Roboute now take over control of the Ultramarines?

tall fjord Dec 16, 2020, 12:52 PM

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my favorite meme about them are that the lost primarchs are in fact, gork and mork, the ork gods

final spruce Dec 16, 2020, 12:52 PM

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And him being pretty well read makes him a good tactician and him being flexible makes him a good Jack of all trades

tall fjord Dec 16, 2020, 12:53 PM

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from what i understand of the lore where it is now, roboute is basically in charge of the imperium itself now, but since it got cut in half by the new warp storm bullshittery that happened when cadia fell he's only REALLY in charge of half of it

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i recall hearing he sent someone else to try and save the other half but, anyone knows where that will go

verbal nest Dec 16, 2020, 12:54 PM

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Inb4 the imperium that got cut off from terra is the new enemy

OR

will stumble upon a horde of STC and become woke

distant harness Dec 16, 2020, 1:15 PM

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verbal nest What's his niche? Coz im pretty sure each primarch had their own thing they were...

empire building and management stuff, and he's been in stasis with a mortal wound

verbal nest Dec 16, 2020, 1:16 PM

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Always assumed he was a tactician/logistics guy

distant harness Dec 16, 2020, 1:17 PM

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logistics is a big part of those things yeah

plush mason Dec 16, 2020, 1:18 PM

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he is like dorn but less builder more leader

vapid sentinel Dec 16, 2020, 1:19 PM

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Wasnt Vulkan nuked from Orbit and is presumed dead?

plush mason Dec 16, 2020, 1:20 PM

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both dorn and girlyman where the most successful of the primarchs in terms of their pre emp daddy finding them

plush mason Dec 16, 2020, 1:20 PM

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vapid sentinel Wasnt Vulkan nuked from Orbit and is presumed dead?

vulkan cant stay dead

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he has his daddy's regen

distant harness Dec 16, 2020, 1:21 PM

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vulkan was nuked pretty hard and it's left unclear if he'll stay dead or not, or if he's even properly dead

vapid sentinel Dec 16, 2020, 1:21 PM

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That what the Lord said

plush mason Dec 16, 2020, 1:22 PM

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btw are the eldar really trying to muderfuck another god into being?

distant harness Dec 16, 2020, 1:23 PM

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not as far as I know?

plush mason Dec 16, 2020, 1:23 PM

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that new cult

distant harness Dec 16, 2020, 1:24 PM

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Ynnead?

plush mason Dec 16, 2020, 1:24 PM

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yeah

vapid sentinel Dec 16, 2020, 1:24 PM

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They all ready fucked Slaanesh into existence so its possible to do it again

distant harness Dec 16, 2020, 1:25 PM

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Ynnead is something made up of their collective souls, they're not actively trying to make it really

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definitely not like slaanesh

plush mason Dec 16, 2020, 1:25 PM

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good

tall fjord Dec 16, 2020, 1:25 PM

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Ynnead is supposed to be something special compared to other gods, so, if they pull it off it could result in some kind of a huge win for them

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course, most of the 40k deities have something which makes them special compared to the others

plush mason Dec 16, 2020, 1:25 PM

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i hope it eats slaneesh

vapid sentinel Dec 16, 2020, 1:28 PM

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probably not but it could be possible that it is a way to beat Slaanesh but who knows. GW will probably not kill of one of the Chaos gods

plush mason Dec 16, 2020, 1:29 PM

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i know but a man can dream

vapid sentinel Dec 16, 2020, 1:30 PM

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true

plush mason Dec 16, 2020, 1:30 PM

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slaneesh was a mistake

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and i love the irony of her being eatten by eldar souls

tall fjord Dec 16, 2020, 1:40 PM

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the eldar created slaanesh because they were such impossibly horny, debauched bastards that it caused a new god to get created

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just look at their chief war god, he's the god of booty

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so i mean, mistake, sure, but on some level you cant deny they were asking for it

storm jungle Dec 16, 2020, 1:42 PM

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yeah its the classic fall from grace trope

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pretty much EVERY sci-fi race has it

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or hell even the elven races for that matter in most fiction

vapid sentinel Dec 16, 2020, 2:15 PM

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Even our Mushroom boys have that fall from grace.
I think Tau dont have something like that. Yet

barren tapir Dec 16, 2020, 2:16 PM

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They are still young, they couldn't had already a fall from grace trope, but we are getting there

plucky moth Dec 16, 2020, 2:18 PM

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yea fall from grace is pretty much a staple in any fantasy/sci-fi setting

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also the concept of Elder Races

vapid sentinel Dec 16, 2020, 2:19 PM

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Yeah if the death of Aun'Va is revealed to them they could also fall

plucky moth Dec 16, 2020, 2:20 PM

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"yeah so like, the world used to be ruled by these godlike beings who were literally infalliable but they like died lmao, and now it's dominated by humans despite them being literally the WEAKEST group in the setting"

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fiction 101

vapid sentinel Dec 16, 2020, 2:21 PM

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in 40k i would not say humans are the weakest but everyone who could beat them still lacks in numbers

barren tapir Dec 16, 2020, 2:27 PM

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The orks have both the numbers and the strength, but they lack the organization

tall fjord Dec 16, 2020, 2:29 PM

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well, in terms of numbers i think the orks might actually be the biggest faction, the imperium just has more territory

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but the orks are constantly fucking with each other because if they have no one else to fight, they fight each OTHER

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they only stop to fight other people when one of them amasses enough power to get in charge and be all "this is stupid, let's go fight those guys over THERE! because fuck YEAHHHHH"

vapid sentinel Dec 16, 2020, 2:33 PM

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You might be right. It also coub be that the Nids are the one that is the biggest faction in regards to Numbers.
It is still Unknow from where they come and the are not fully arrived yet

tall fjord Dec 16, 2020, 2:34 PM

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nids are actually in a similar boat, one of the ciaphas cain books revealed that different hive fleets WILL fight each other if they encounter one another

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they will even stop in the MIDDLE of invading someone ELSE to fight each other FIRST

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they could be fighting imperium only to see a different tyranid hive and completely IGNORE the humans to go fight the other nids, EVEN AS THE HUMANS ARE STILL WAILING ON THEM

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hard to know how they are numbers wise compared to everyone else though

storm jungle Dec 16, 2020, 2:37 PM

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Infinite i think

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since they got literal spawning pools lol

tall fjord Dec 16, 2020, 2:37 PM

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i mean, they appear as this gigantic overwhelming force but i think that has more to do with how when they show up, it's like a third of their faction will show up at the exact same place at the same time

storm jungle Dec 16, 2020, 2:37 PM

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just need dem MEAT

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also see thats the problem with nids

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realistically they'd have devoured a good portion of the galaxy by now

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they just cant because plot

tall fjord Dec 16, 2020, 2:38 PM

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i mean, many of the factions are kind of in a position where they could curbstomp most of the galaxy at the same time due to certain bullshit

storm jungle Dec 16, 2020, 2:38 PM

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Yeee they all got mcguffins

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literally everyone lol

tall fjord Dec 16, 2020, 2:39 PM

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of course, on another level it's not too surprising that GW would be kind of slow in terms of the plot

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for example, if one faction just got completely wiped out, EVERYONE who played that faction can basically no longer buy models

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because they no longer exist

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and theres no guarantee they'll just switch to someone else

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like, if tau got wiped out that doesn't mean all those guys will suddenly just play custodes or marines instead

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they might go to another fandom

kind dove Dec 16, 2020, 2:40 PM

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The problem with Nids is they don’t know how to fight us yet. First hive fleet learned a little, then the second learned and tried different tactics, the third broke into tons of splinter fleets to try a broad tactic

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Eventually Nids will push deep into the Galaxy as they learn

tall fjord Dec 16, 2020, 2:42 PM

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well one problem has also been that so far it's literally just been everyone vs imperium

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in the sense that, maybe the nids could fuck up the imperium sure

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but for the nids to win against chaos they would have to enter the warp itself, eat all the demons and then eat the chaos gods

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it's questionable whether they could even do that

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and the whole "needs biomass" thing would fail in say, nids vs crons

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it's debatable if nids would even be capable of half the moves the imperium or even orks would use against the crons

vapid sentinel Dec 16, 2020, 2:46 PM

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I mean we are speaking lore not miniatures. I could still field Squats even they are wiped out in the lore

celest dome Dec 16, 2020, 3:00 PM

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You could field then in the IG under the Abhuman regiment iirc

kind dove Dec 16, 2020, 3:00 PM

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I wonder if Nids can process living metal as biomass.

celest dome Dec 16, 2020, 3:02 PM

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I don't think they can (if by Living Metal you mean Necrodermis)

They aren't really interested in Necrons iirc

prisma lark Dec 16, 2020, 3:08 PM

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but even the pools don't "spawn" them out of nothing

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they need biomass and shit

barren tapir Dec 16, 2020, 3:17 PM

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Nids have made a hive fleet especially developed to fight chaos and its followers

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They also made a hive fleet that his purpose is to devour lesser fleets or those that developed interesting mutations

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While they can eat metals it is not their preferred target, and one thing very important for them is the biomass that they can get by the fight for it, if the equation isn't favourable to them they will ignore it

prisma lark Dec 16, 2020, 3:21 PM

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which is why they usually avoid Tombworlds

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neither Necrons, nor gauss weaponry targets, leave much to eat

barren tapir Dec 16, 2020, 3:29 PM

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A forge world Lucius IIRC, did the same using servitors

final spruce Dec 16, 2020, 3:38 PM

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Skitarii seem to fit the build well

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They are heavily modified

barren tapir Dec 16, 2020, 3:41 PM

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Not all of them, servitors on the other hand have very little meat on them

final spruce Dec 16, 2020, 3:41 PM

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True

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As much as you want really

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You could just leave the brain being the only squishy part

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Well half of it

celest dome Dec 16, 2020, 3:42 PM

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Or have only a brain, but not attached to anything

barren tapir Dec 16, 2020, 3:42 PM

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Skitarri can me more machine than human, but that depend on the techpriest that create them

vapid sentinel Dec 16, 2020, 4:23 PM

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I think a nid attack will also depend on the kind of planet. I doubt they will attack a desert planet even when there are some Humans

plush mason Dec 16, 2020, 4:25 PM

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they will iirc

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i mean they can eat metel so

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even silocon would have a use for them

barren tapir Dec 16, 2020, 4:26 PM

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They attacked baal, which is a radioactive desert world

vapid sentinel Dec 16, 2020, 4:27 PM

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Right they did that i totally forgot

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Nids are some pretty Hangry dudes

barren tapir Dec 16, 2020, 4:33 PM

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I mean, i get that on baal there were a lot of SM and they are a juicy meal, all that genetic material, but radioactive sand? Are you really that hungry mate??

vapid sentinel Dec 16, 2020, 4:36 PM

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okay yeah nids will attack everything with the smallest amount of life or biomass

storm jungle Dec 16, 2020, 4:37 PM

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Oh no they werent hungry

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it literally says they attacked Baal out of spite

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and that they "hated" the BA for what they did to the fleet

vapid sentinel Dec 16, 2020, 4:38 PM

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Not Hungry Nids sounds realistic like a peace loving ork xD

barren tapir Dec 16, 2020, 4:41 PM

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That is too much emotion for mindless hungry bugs... They are evolving it seems, not a surprise, but not a good new either... Also now they must really hate also the demons, ka'bandha in particular

final spruce Dec 16, 2020, 4:53 PM

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Maybe the Hivemind does hold grudges

celest dome Dec 16, 2020, 4:55 PM

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Are you saying that Tyranids are Dwarfs ?

final spruce Dec 16, 2020, 4:56 PM

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How dare you compare dwarves to tyranids

pearl sail Dec 16, 2020, 4:58 PM

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Yeah, bad comparison, the tyranids can adapt to change.

storm jungle Dec 16, 2020, 4:59 PM

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OOF

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THATS GOOD ONE

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lmao

final spruce Dec 16, 2020, 5:03 PM

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Exactly

vapid sentinel Dec 16, 2020, 5:07 PM

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So which Primarch will return next?

final spruce Dec 16, 2020, 5:07 PM

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None Gulliman is doomed to be alone

storm jungle Dec 16, 2020, 5:09 PM

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vapid sentinel So which Primarch will return next?

Most likely Lion

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makes more sense business wise

celest dome Dec 16, 2020, 5:09 PM

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I kinda want to see a Renegade Primarch (Not a Chaos One)

pearl sail Dec 16, 2020, 5:10 PM

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I honestly hope GW ease off the space marines for a little while.

vapid sentinel Dec 16, 2020, 5:10 PM

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yeah that would make sense. I believe its the only Primarch where we know his position in the universe

barren tapir Dec 16, 2020, 5:10 PM

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I really hope in the creation of a better IG TBH

vapid sentinel Dec 16, 2020, 5:11 PM

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im a great fan of SM but i will say GW is overdoing it with the SM
The dont even put that much work into the "enemies"

plucky moth Dec 16, 2020, 5:14 PM

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ok but like imagine

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SM but evil

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OleOneEye

late jacinth Dec 16, 2020, 5:14 PM

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You guys are out here theorising and shit. I'm still sad that they blew up Cadia.

vapid sentinel Dec 16, 2020, 5:14 PM

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like Chaos SM?

plucky moth Dec 16, 2020, 5:15 PM

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yeah I literally meant them lol

rotund siren Dec 16, 2020, 5:15 PM

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battle for the ages

vapid sentinel Dec 16, 2020, 5:17 PM

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What about the Mushroom Boys? The should get some love aswell

rotund siren Dec 16, 2020, 5:18 PM

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do you mean Orks?

vapid sentinel Dec 16, 2020, 5:18 PM

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Yes i do

rotund siren Dec 16, 2020, 5:18 PM

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ok

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what about them?

vapid sentinel Dec 16, 2020, 5:19 PM

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Cant remember when something big happened in their Lore

plucky moth Dec 16, 2020, 5:20 PM

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just give 'em more colours

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more power

rotund siren Dec 16, 2020, 5:20 PM

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yes

plucky moth Dec 16, 2020, 5:21 PM

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"Orks discover Orange"

rotund siren Dec 16, 2020, 5:21 PM

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Orkrange

velvet yarrow Dec 16, 2020, 5:22 PM

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orange orks are master speech givers because nothing rhymes with orange which makes them stronger than any other word

rotund siren Dec 16, 2020, 5:23 PM

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nothing does not rhyme with orange

vapid sentinel Dec 16, 2020, 5:23 PM

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And Orange makes them what? Red makes faster and yellow makes bigger Booms. so faster Big booms?

barren tapir Dec 16, 2020, 5:23 PM

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vapid sentinel Cant remember when something big happened in their Lore

They were with the space wolves in a recent part of the lore, a summary is: thrakka is getting bigger and bigger and his waaaaagh is doing the same, grim future for the imperium if he manage to become another beast

plucky moth Dec 16, 2020, 5:24 PM

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faster booms pepeGlassesThink

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makes them louder?

rotund siren Dec 16, 2020, 5:24 PM

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LOUDENER

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perfect

cunning lantern Dec 16, 2020, 5:25 PM

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Orange make orkz being more wordy as they will use arguments

final spruce Dec 16, 2020, 5:25 PM

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YOUZ OFFENDED MAH FEELINGZ

plucky moth Dec 16, 2020, 5:25 PM

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Orange, colour of the Ork Bardz

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Song Boyz

rotund siren Dec 16, 2020, 5:25 PM

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Bardz?

cunning lantern Dec 16, 2020, 5:25 PM

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Or orange is color of cheaply done things, even in orkz standards

rotund siren Dec 16, 2020, 5:25 PM

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Song?

plucky moth Dec 16, 2020, 5:26 PM

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loud enough to rival noise marines

rotund siren Dec 16, 2020, 5:26 PM

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YES

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Do Orks already have war drummers?

plucky moth Dec 16, 2020, 5:26 PM

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kinda

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but this would take 'em to a new level

rotund siren Dec 16, 2020, 5:27 PM

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Absolutely

plucky moth Dec 16, 2020, 5:27 PM

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https://tenor.com/view/metal-flamethrower-guitar-guitar-mad-max-fury-road-gif-4832665

Tenor

flamethrower guitar - Metal

▶ Play video

barren tapir Dec 16, 2020, 5:27 PM

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I remeber one ork doing screaming contest with SM

vapid sentinel Dec 16, 2020, 5:35 PM

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The have the right kind of vehicles and the right mindset that could work

plush mason Dec 16, 2020, 6:54 PM

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orks vs noise marines ina battle of the bands 😛

slate gate Dec 16, 2020, 9:19 PM

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Rokkas?

placid timber Dec 16, 2020, 9:24 PM

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I got a goff rockka that ive been building from scratch with a warboss with noise marine bits

storm jungle Dec 16, 2020, 10:16 PM

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https://youtu.be/gDHAdyuOns0?t=1013

YouTube

Luetin09

40K DARK ORIGINS [3] Perceptions of Time & The War in Heaven | WARH...

► Subscribe: http://goo.gl/oeZMBS
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► Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/Luetin
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► Twitter: http://twitter.com/luetin09

Timestamps
0:00 Intro
5:28 Time & The Void
27:30 Accurate Imperial Chr...

▶ Play video

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"Instead of thinking of the present at the front of lets say a timewave that is ever-moving forward with everything behind it being the past and all ahead being the invisible future, you may be better ofF trying to think about the present as not being a thing at all but instead every moment is more like a coordinate in the space-time block of our universe."

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NotLikeThis brain

rotund siren Dec 16, 2020, 10:17 PM

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space-time is wack

storm jungle Dec 16, 2020, 10:17 PM

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its at moments like this that i sometimes feel bad knowing im the only person that feels Luetin is a bit overrated

primal tide Dec 16, 2020, 10:18 PM

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I have yet to find a loretuber that I actually like tbh

storm jungle Dec 16, 2020, 10:18 PM

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yeah for me the stuff hes talking about just is a bit eh?

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Like GW doesnt ever put thought into such complex stuff hes talking about in that timestamp, and im thinking "why does this even matter"

primal tide Dec 16, 2020, 10:19 PM

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That quote kinda belongs in iamverysmart territory

rotund siren Dec 16, 2020, 10:20 PM

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pretty much

half gull Dec 16, 2020, 10:20 PM

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i like the 40k theories guy just because its intresting to hear about

primal tide Dec 16, 2020, 10:20 PM

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Or at least in legend of zelda timeline territory

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Where fans try to peice it all together and nintendo is like lol no timeline

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Ok you want timeline here's a troll timeline go fuck off now

storm jungle Dec 16, 2020, 10:20 PM

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LOL

half gull Dec 16, 2020, 10:21 PM

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at that point, i would specifically make a timeline

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that is so impossible to be cannon

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just to piss everyone off

primal tide Dec 16, 2020, 10:21 PM

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Ask them where breath of the wild is in the timeline they created and they just laugh

distant harness Dec 16, 2020, 10:21 PM

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luetin is def a bit over rated, but keep in mind half his competition literally just reads the wiki word for word

storm jungle Dec 16, 2020, 10:21 PM

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oooft thats true too

dull flame Dec 16, 2020, 10:22 PM

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That's why I just read the wiki myself. 😛

primal tide Dec 16, 2020, 10:22 PM

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distant harness luetin is def a bit over rated, but keep in mind half his competition literally ...

Honestly not a big complaint if their voice is nice

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Still waiting for 40klore ASMR

dull flame Dec 16, 2020, 10:22 PM

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That said.. Injects more black library ebooks into self

distant harness Dec 16, 2020, 10:22 PM

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it's a bit of a complaint when the wiki is terrible half hte time lol

dull flame Dec 16, 2020, 10:22 PM

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Almost done Saturnine

primal tide Dec 16, 2020, 10:22 PM

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Oh, I meant lexicanum

distant harness Dec 16, 2020, 10:22 PM

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if they read lexicanum maybe I wouldn't mind if they did it in an entertaining way

primal tide Dec 16, 2020, 10:22 PM

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Fuck the wiki

storm jungle Dec 16, 2020, 10:22 PM

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^

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i actually wish there was a channel that fully is setup on being an audiobook of wikipages

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id love that tbh

dull flame Dec 16, 2020, 10:23 PM

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Lexicanum, 40k wiki, 1d4chan. Pretty much my 3 stop shops for 40k stuff that isn't official black library books/audiobooks

storm jungle Dec 16, 2020, 10:23 PM

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dont forget PDFs

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ButcherTea

primal tide Dec 16, 2020, 10:23 PM

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Yarr

distant harness Dec 16, 2020, 10:24 PM

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no clearly I pay for all of the codexes and the like 200 novels on my ereader 🙂

primal tide Dec 16, 2020, 10:24 PM

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Don't forget those, matey

final spruce Dec 16, 2020, 10:24 PM

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It's not Yarr when its literally abuse

dull flame Dec 16, 2020, 10:24 PM

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It'd be nice if they sold ebook copies of the Imperial Armour books.

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I want Badab and Vraks.

distant harness Dec 16, 2020, 10:24 PM

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1d4chan is fun but man it's annoying when people use it as a primary source lol

primal tide Dec 16, 2020, 10:25 PM

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final spruce It's not Yarr when its literally abuse

Wut

distant harness Dec 16, 2020, 10:25 PM

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there's a few mega links floating around with basically all the GW books

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or so I hear

primal tide Dec 16, 2020, 10:25 PM

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distant harness 1d4chan is fun but man it's annoying when people use it as a primary source lol

100% agree

final spruce Dec 16, 2020, 10:25 PM

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GW's monetisation process when it comes to docs is a bit too much imo

distant harness Dec 16, 2020, 10:25 PM

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would definitely not recommend looking into those and getting them all for free

final spruce Dec 16, 2020, 10:25 PM

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Their app being a prime example

storm jungle Dec 16, 2020, 10:26 PM

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distant harness there's a few mega links floating around with basically all the GW books

~~Can confirm.~~

final spruce Dec 16, 2020, 10:26 PM

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You pay 5 pounds a month and you still have to buy all the books for them to be on there

storm jungle Dec 16, 2020, 10:26 PM

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what

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seriously

primal tide Dec 16, 2020, 10:26 PM

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That's just funny

final spruce Dec 16, 2020, 10:26 PM

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Yep you need to take the code from the codex for it be accessible from their app

storm jungle Dec 16, 2020, 10:27 PM

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"why do people not buy our stuff and get pdfs nooooo"

final spruce Dec 16, 2020, 10:27 PM

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Or you need to buy it from the app for the full price

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Also, the Psykic awakening books ? Nah they aren't valid anymore

primal tide Dec 16, 2020, 10:28 PM

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Glad I'm in the "paint, no play" club

final spruce Dec 16, 2020, 10:28 PM

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Battlescribe + wahapedia is more than enough

primal tide Dec 16, 2020, 10:28 PM

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https://tenor.com/view/marge-i-just-think-theyre-neat-the-simpsons-neat-potato-gif-8549864

Tenor

final spruce Dec 16, 2020, 10:28 PM

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But let's switch chat, this is for lore here

primal tide Dec 16, 2020, 10:29 PM

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We're talking about the cost of the lore 😉

#

Besides, it's not like we're interrupting a valuable discussion on why they can't do marines in darktide for the 20th time

final spruce Dec 16, 2020, 10:30 PM

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Ima go check steam page for the lulz

primal tide Dec 16, 2020, 10:32 PM

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Gaze into the abyss and it gazes back

atomic pelican Dec 16, 2020, 11:24 PM

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Wahapedia just got AoS rules too which is pog

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Either that or I just missed them earlier somehow

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Still missing some battletomes tho

verbal nest Dec 16, 2020, 11:59 PM

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It's still amazing how many people call for really bizarre shit in Darktide

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Even a single Spacemarine would be a very powerful thing to go against what enemies we've seen

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I would've still preferred playing as inquistors

final spruce Dec 17, 2020, 12:03 AM

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We already have a game with an inquisitor going against Nurgle stuff

verbal nest Dec 17, 2020, 12:05 AM

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Inquistor martyr?@Zherlum#0683

final spruce Dec 17, 2020, 12:05 AM

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Yes

verbal nest Dec 17, 2020, 12:05 AM

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That's an awful game, I'm sorry

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What a fucking abhorrent game

final spruce Dec 17, 2020, 12:05 AM

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It's still there

verbal nest Dec 17, 2020, 12:06 AM

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Still

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We've got thousands of games where you play as a burly American killing natives

Why can't we have more inquistor games

final spruce Dec 17, 2020, 12:06 AM

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I never played it so I can't say

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You also have the Enseihorn games but those are on mobile/tablet I recon

verbal nest Dec 17, 2020, 12:07 AM

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either

Way

dull flame Dec 17, 2020, 12:12 AM

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I like Inquisitor Martyr. Needs way more level variety and enemies to purge

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Heat build + Multi Melta = ❤️

verbal nest Dec 17, 2020, 12:13 AM

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It just feels like I'm playing an mmorpg

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Which it is

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Maybe it was my console and controller experience but the gameplay was extremely awful too

final spruce Dec 17, 2020, 12:14 AM

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Seems to be a you problem, steam ratings seems ok

verbal nest Dec 17, 2020, 12:14 AM

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Yeah that must be it

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Also it's another one of those "is fun with friends"

final spruce Dec 17, 2020, 12:14 AM

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Its only 72% so you're not half wrong

verbal nest Dec 17, 2020, 12:15 AM

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I wonder how much of the negative ratings point towards having to make an account with some website I've never heard of

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Or how unexplained the skills system is

distant harness Dec 17, 2020, 12:19 AM

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abhorrent is a very strong word for martyr lol

dull flame Dec 17, 2020, 2:55 AM

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'course the one guy with the useful plasma gun is just standing there.

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plush mason Dec 17, 2020, 2:56 AM

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ummm did you not see the warlord titan in the right cornor?

dull flame Dec 17, 2020, 2:57 AM

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The bio-titan will just charge it and knock it over.

plush mason Dec 17, 2020, 2:57 AM

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it also wouldnt even feel that plasma gun hit it so

distant harness Dec 17, 2020, 2:58 AM

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ya not sure how useful an IG plasma rifle is gonna be vs a titan

dull flame Dec 17, 2020, 2:58 AM

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True. But he could be firing the plasma gun into the swarm on the ground. Aim for a few synapse beasts

plush mason Dec 17, 2020, 2:58 AM

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true

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but i cant tll if the swarm has followed into the breach yet

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oh nvm i can see a warrior right in front

dull flame Dec 17, 2020, 3:03 AM

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Target rich environment. Storm bolter on full auto.

plush mason Dec 17, 2020, 3:06 AM

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is that a warhound titan that has been blown in half?

dull flame Dec 17, 2020, 3:06 AM

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Or a Knight, yeah

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"Don't talk to me or my sons ever again."

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plush mason Dec 17, 2020, 3:14 AM

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tau

dull flame Dec 17, 2020, 3:16 AM

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3 banehammers may be a lil excessive.

plush mason Dec 17, 2020, 3:21 AM

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well going gun on gun with tau is stupid so

atomic pelican Dec 17, 2020, 4:42 AM

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dull flame "Don't talk to me or my sons ever again."

Need that with the Ta'Unar added in for MAXIMUM chonk

crisp heath Dec 17, 2020, 4:54 AM

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Those are from the Rogue Trader tau supplement, so the Ta'Unar wasn't a thing yet.

upbeat tartan Dec 17, 2020, 4:54 AM

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Ta'Unar is the giant FW LoW right?

crisp heath Dec 17, 2020, 4:55 AM

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I believe so

atomic pelican Dec 17, 2020, 4:55 AM

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yess

crisp heath Dec 17, 2020, 4:55 AM

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It's the Fuck-You-Big-Ass-Robot for the Tau

atomic pelican Dec 17, 2020, 4:55 AM

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They are Large

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https://wh40k.lexicanum.com/mediawiki/images/7/70/Supremacy.jpg

dull flame Dec 17, 2020, 4:56 AM

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Spoilered cause Siege of Vraks and lots of Krieg Guardsmen and Traitors dying. [Grimdark alert]

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atomic pelican Dec 17, 2020, 4:56 AM

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Love traitor guard art

dull flame Dec 17, 2020, 4:57 AM

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14 million Krieg guardsmen to take a planet that was useless once recovered. Gotta love it

crisp heath Dec 17, 2020, 4:57 AM

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It is still a tactical victory

atomic pelican Dec 17, 2020, 4:57 AM

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Do traitor guard actually have rules?

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Or are they just a fluff thing

crisp heath Dec 17, 2020, 4:58 AM

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They are a fluff thing now.

atomic pelican Dec 17, 2020, 4:58 AM

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Ahh yee

crisp heath Dec 17, 2020, 4:58 AM

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Look up the lost and the damned

atomic pelican Dec 17, 2020, 4:58 AM

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Hopefully they get actual rules. They're cool fluffwise

crisp heath Dec 17, 2020, 4:58 AM

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They use to have rules.

atomic pelican Dec 17, 2020, 4:58 AM

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I mean you can just play IG and say they're traitor guard but yee

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ahh

crisp heath Dec 17, 2020, 4:59 AM

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But GW doesn't like supporting anything other than cadia

dull flame Dec 17, 2020, 4:59 AM

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Sadly. 😦

crisp heath Dec 17, 2020, 5:00 AM

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If they are gonna bring back Krieg's rules, they got to bring back Krieg

dull flame Dec 17, 2020, 5:00 AM

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Gimme more Mordian, Krieg, Valhallan, Elysian, Harakoni, Tallarn, Praetorian, Maccabian, Catachan and Vostroyan love.

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So many quality guard regiments to choose from and they always go with Cadia

atomic pelican Dec 17, 2020, 5:01 AM

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Yeeeep

crisp heath Dec 17, 2020, 5:01 AM

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No matter what they say, the planet broke. Cadians are only going around for so long

atomic pelican Dec 17, 2020, 5:01 AM

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P much everyone who's not a spesh mahren is having it rough rn

dull flame Dec 17, 2020, 5:02 AM

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IIRC there was something in the fluff of cadian regiments being given planets so the cadian people don't die off.

crisp heath Dec 17, 2020, 5:03 AM

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The line never dies I guess

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And I don't mean the firing line.

dull flame Dec 17, 2020, 5:05 AM

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I do like how Creed is just in Trazyn's art collection now

distant harness Dec 17, 2020, 5:09 AM

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traitor guard have some presence in blackstone fortress

serene eagle Dec 17, 2020, 6:50 AM

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@crisp heath Considering Cadian culture is used as the blueprint for ideal imperial culture, doubtful

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Countless worlds were colonised by cadian vets and formed by their ways

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Cadia isn't just a place, its a way of life

crisp heath Dec 17, 2020, 6:52 AM

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Yeah. I guess I can understand that. It's probably just my personal preference informing my judgement.

proper helm Dec 17, 2020, 7:44 AM

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Hey, in 40k, could a Guard or PDF infantry regiment have supporting artillery attached to it or would it be two seperate regiments that have to cooperate?

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Aside from the usual "anything is possible in 40k"

knotty cove Dec 17, 2020, 7:49 AM

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Depends on the planet it's from.

proper helm Dec 17, 2020, 7:51 AM

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eh, fair

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Yeah the PDF in the story I'm working on have a handful of actually good units before they just have to start conscripting random peasants. This one can get some artillery stuck to it

knotty cove Dec 17, 2020, 7:53 AM

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👍

kindred hound Dec 17, 2020, 8:56 AM

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how many krieg soldat are there

thick shadow Dec 17, 2020, 8:57 AM

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We don't know

scenic bolt Dec 17, 2020, 8:57 AM

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As many as the plot demands

kindred hound Dec 17, 2020, 8:57 AM

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thanks

thick shadow Dec 17, 2020, 9:06 AM

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As long as the Krieger making machine doesn't broke, yes. ※It's not demonculaba kind.

mint hill Dec 17, 2020, 11:45 AM

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Probably a few Billion Kreig guardsman as their whole planet is basically a recruiting world for the Imperium, they pay one of the highest tithes because they have like, nothing else the Imperium wants/needs

verbal nest Dec 17, 2020, 12:03 PM

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God I really hope we get a krieg career

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All I want is to hear voicelines through a gasmask and it's gonna be mostly screeching

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And the full thwack of a shovel into a poxwalkers face

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Gimme it now
Inject it into my veins

tall fjord Dec 17, 2020, 12:06 PM

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theres something magical about killing dudes with a shovel when everyone else is using badass weapons of some sort

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and then the battle is just interrupted by clangs

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"you know, we have like, three spare power swords"

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"i noticed"

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"we can uhh.....give you one"

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"im good thanks"

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"it's just that even the cultists are commenting now......we could get you a chainsword or something if you want, maybe a sweet bayonet for your gun"

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"no need, shovel"

verbal nest Dec 17, 2020, 12:09 PM

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Now that I think about it, if there's gonna be ranged enemies, we'll probably pick up ammo from their corpses

verbal nest Dec 17, 2020, 12:10 PM

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tall fjord "it's just that even the cultists are commenting now......we could get you a cha...

Aren't the krieg into bayonets too

tall fjord Dec 17, 2020, 12:11 PM

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no more than all guardsmen are, i don't think you can even remove the bayonet from the standard lasgun

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i mean, they'll be happy to stab the shit out of a heretic with one sure

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but it's not really unique to kriegers

verbal nest Dec 17, 2020, 12:14 PM

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I wonder if we'll get some bayonet action

storm jungle Dec 17, 2020, 12:14 PM

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it was in the trailer actually

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so i highly think so

tall fjord Dec 17, 2020, 12:14 PM

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would be nice, i love working bayonets in games

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i dont have two extra buttons on the side of my mouse to not use them

storm jungle Dec 17, 2020, 12:14 PM

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verbal nest Dec 17, 2020, 12:15 PM

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Darktide on the Gameboy be like

storm jungle Dec 17, 2020, 12:15 PM

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+ p e w +

verbal nest Dec 17, 2020, 12:17 PM

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Happy 8 bit lasgun sounds

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pewpewpewpewpewp

vapid sentinel Dec 17, 2020, 1:54 PM

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Can someone tell me in short what happens in Psychic Awakening? What is the purpose?

prisma lark Dec 17, 2020, 2:01 PM

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the purpose is, of course, to make the imperium look good and xenos and heretics to look bad, as always

vapid sentinel Dec 17, 2020, 2:03 PM

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hm okay. I never thought that the imperium is good. I would even say there is no faction/race in 40k that is good

verbal nest Dec 17, 2020, 2:09 PM

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That's the point

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Everyone's kind of a meme in Warhammer

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here's god....he doesn't know how to take care of his kids....this won't bite him back in the ass later

vapid sentinel Dec 17, 2020, 2:18 PM

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i can see what you mean, still i dont think thats what is wrong with the Imperium. Sure it didnt made it better still it was never great or good.

storm jungle Dec 17, 2020, 2:19 PM

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tell that to GW's marketing team buddy lol

storm jungle Dec 17, 2020, 2:19 PM

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vapid sentinel Can someone tell me in short what happens in Psychic Awakening? What is the purp...

also

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https://1d4chan.org/wiki/Psychic_Awakening

Psychic Awakening

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the most simple summary since nothing actually happened much

vapid sentinel Dec 17, 2020, 2:20 PM

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Thanks. I will look into it

storm jungle Dec 17, 2020, 2:20 PM

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No worries, 4chan is pretty much the only site that covers these things

rotund siren Dec 17, 2020, 2:21 PM

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nerds

storm jungle Dec 17, 2020, 2:22 PM

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well Too Long To Read:

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For the most part, the entire Psychic Awakening event has been met with mixed results. In regards to the stories that they each tell within, they, for the most part, come off with the same old "status quo" storytelling that GW used to tell, with there being no clear winner in most books, and no groundbreaking changes for the factions involved within them. (Part of this is because GW has started taking a "no exact dates" policy with the lore; to wit, none of the PA books state any specific date, and current lore is that thanks to the Great Rift endlessly fucking with time there's no way to know for sure when anything happens. It's hinted that PA events happened before/during/after the Indomitus Crusade, depending on the exact book and events.)

Complaints have come about the quality of the writing. For example, the lead up to the Tau PA book had a lot of mention of Death Guard, but they were suspiciously absent from the book. Ghaz vs Ragnar talked up the two as the greatest of rivals; forgetting to mention Ghaz's rivalry with Yarrick. In the end it felt less like these books were written in respect to existing lore and more to fall in line with the release schedule GW wanted to put out.

half gull Dec 17, 2020, 2:25 PM

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the fact they dont mention my main man yarrick is a travesty

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even if the new ghaz model is sweet

vapid sentinel Dec 17, 2020, 2:42 PM

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the 8th Edition modell or is there an even newer?

cerulean wagon Dec 17, 2020, 3:07 PM

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8th

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PA was an 8e event

vapid sentinel Dec 17, 2020, 3:16 PM

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Since we are in 9e it could be that they gave him a newer modell. Thats why i asked 🙂

half gull Dec 17, 2020, 3:32 PM

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they dont give out models that often

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man if they did

mint hill Dec 17, 2020, 3:36 PM

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likely all guns in the game will get a 'melee bash' type attack rifles will probably have bayonets to jab enemies while other guns with be rifle butt or something. And the Bayonet can be removed from a lasgun as it'd likely get in the way when doing field maintenance of the lasgun.

rotund siren Dec 17, 2020, 3:38 PM

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that'd be neat

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dunno how they'd do field maintenance though

odd sparrow Dec 17, 2020, 3:47 PM

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I don't imagine every weapon will get a melee bash but yeah it does seem like they'll build upon that system. Like, even just in the trailer we've seen two distinct attacks with the ogryn's shotgun, as opposed to the one we have with shotguns in VT

cunning lantern Dec 17, 2020, 3:58 PM

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Is there any war crimes being punished in 41st millenium?

celest dome Dec 17, 2020, 3:59 PM

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All war crime against planet that are faithful/important

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Like there is aan Ordo that monitor the usage of Exterminatus protocol and such

storm jungle Dec 17, 2020, 4:03 PM

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cunning lantern Is there any war crimes being punished in 41st millenium?

Kinda

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i dont think anyone minds much

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unless an actually competent officer is watching over the troops

rotund siren Dec 17, 2020, 4:04 PM

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There is Exterminatus

storm jungle Dec 17, 2020, 4:04 PM

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since we're talking about a universe where riots are put down by cops firing into crowds and bashing the skulls of people in

rotund siren Dec 17, 2020, 4:04 PM

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that is punished with death/excommunication, if it wasn't necessary

rotund siren Dec 17, 2020, 4:05 PM

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celest dome Like there is aan Ordo that monitor the usage of Exterminatus protocol and such

oh, you already said that

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yeah

cunning lantern Dec 17, 2020, 4:26 PM

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At least there is one what can be compared as war crime: heresy.

mint hill Dec 17, 2020, 4:29 PM

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Closest thing to war crimes you'll get is basically declaring yourself apart from the Imperium. Or, going full on religious breakout like they did ages ago with the eclesiarchy

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I can't remember what it's called but basically was another massive civil war.

upbeat tartan Dec 17, 2020, 4:29 PM

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Age of Apostasy

barren tapir Dec 17, 2020, 4:34 PM

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Also plague on unbelief by cardinal bucharis

mint hill Dec 17, 2020, 4:35 PM

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Yeah, that's the closest you'll get to war crimes. No weapon or tactic is too extreme to use against the traitor or Xenos scum.

final spruce Dec 17, 2020, 4:36 PM

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Then you end up with a vindicare trailling your ass

mint hill Dec 17, 2020, 4:37 PM

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There are stupid things that can get you turned into a servitor for like, thousands of years. There was a good story about a captian using his spaceship to manouver an asteroid onto a planet to hit some city, and was punished severly due to the fact that the paint damage, fuel expended and all the other bs involved with it was more expensively done than just torpedoing the city from orbit.

storm jungle Dec 17, 2020, 4:37 PM

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it can happen accidentally too

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or just because a techpriest says "lol i dont care you're gonna get lobotimized"

ancient kayak Dec 17, 2020, 5:44 PM

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There are examples of rules being put in place in some of the imperium in fighting wars like not artillery so not to damage the structures I even remember one which was no fighting before and after certain times a very civil civil war

blazing garnet Dec 17, 2020, 6:04 PM

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why do i feel this game is going to bomb just as fast as warhammer 40k

storm jungle Dec 17, 2020, 6:04 PM

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I mean 40k has been around for 30+ years

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if you mean a universe that actually bombed financially and literally its probably Warhammer Fantasy

odd sparrow Dec 17, 2020, 6:05 PM

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NUKE THE LIZARDS

blazing garnet Dec 17, 2020, 6:06 PM

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i mean strategical games

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look @ how they masacared our boys

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or how they went from futuristic point of view in to god dman goblins that fiasco is jsut hilariously shooting ur self in hte knee

storm jungle Dec 17, 2020, 6:08 PM

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The... what?

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Gobbos?

blazing garnet Dec 17, 2020, 6:09 PM

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from futuristic point of view they went in to saturated shit

storm jungle Dec 17, 2020, 6:09 PM

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Like what?

odd sparrow Dec 17, 2020, 6:09 PM

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not sure i follow

blazing garnet Dec 17, 2020, 6:10 PM

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bru look @ what happend to the mmorpg of warhammer

storm jungle Dec 17, 2020, 6:11 PM

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....wat

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Eternal Crusade?

blazing garnet Dec 17, 2020, 6:12 PM

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then look @ strategical games ...

storm jungle Dec 17, 2020, 6:12 PM

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Or like DOW3?

blazing garnet Dec 17, 2020, 6:12 PM

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ya boy

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and dow

storm jungle Dec 17, 2020, 6:12 PM

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I mean not really?

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People forgot those already by now

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and they're in the trash bin

blazing garnet Dec 17, 2020, 6:12 PM

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it plumited liek candycane

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well ppl aint forgeting

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i remmeber 😄

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and there is a lot of others who do

storm jungle Dec 17, 2020, 6:13 PM

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Oh yeah i meant as in like nobody remembers them fondly lol

blazing garnet Dec 17, 2020, 6:13 PM

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ohhh :d

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my bad

storm jungle Dec 17, 2020, 6:13 PM

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no worries

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but dont worry as many shit 40k games as there are theres always gonna be good ones

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fatshark are really devoted to the stuff they do, its the same reason why we got a Vermintide 2

blazing garnet Dec 17, 2020, 6:14 PM

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gh,mmm

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u might be right here but overall hammer is kinda getting plowed by shit decisions

storm jungle Dec 17, 2020, 6:14 PM

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Yeee thas valid but dont worry like i said

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id be worried if it was some big company with no idea of what 40k is doing this, their post today in announcement already shows their passion for the project

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https://steamcommunity.com/games/1361210/announcements/detail/4134832513804541331

Steam :: Warhammer 40,000: Darktide :: Trusting Fatshark with Warha...

Last week we premiered the first gameplay trailer for Warhammer 40,000: Darktide

blazing garnet Dec 17, 2020, 6:16 PM

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ye hopefully this ones gona be good

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and not lfd ripoff

gray trellis Dec 17, 2020, 6:17 PM

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i mean, copy and paste vermintide, but in space, is not that hard, and the worst part is that i know EA or Activision would fuck it up somehow

blazing garnet Dec 17, 2020, 6:17 PM

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ohhhh Ea got theyr hands on this ?

mint hill Dec 17, 2020, 6:17 PM

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no

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if they did, they would fuck it up.

blazing garnet Dec 17, 2020, 6:18 PM

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ofc they would they fuck up everything

storm jungle Dec 17, 2020, 6:18 PM

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jesus christ i can see it

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WARHAMMER: EA

prisma lark Dec 17, 2020, 6:18 PM

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thank the Emperor they don't, but they'd definitely fuck it up if they did yeah

storm jungle Dec 17, 2020, 6:18 PM

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BossPuke

blazing garnet Dec 17, 2020, 6:18 PM

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"DLS NEW COLOR OF WEPOAN " 40000 coins

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"new wagh icon"

mint hill Dec 17, 2020, 6:18 PM

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"In the far future of the 41st millenium, there is only micro transactions."

blazing garnet Dec 17, 2020, 6:18 PM

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"new breathing situation"

odd sparrow Dec 17, 2020, 6:34 PM

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EA has big rogue trader energy tbh

royal herald Dec 17, 2020, 6:41 PM

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ok tbf I think massive microtransactions on a 40k game would be fitting

mint hill Dec 17, 2020, 6:41 PM

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Not really.

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You're not paying the imperial tithe here, you're playing a game.

primal tide Dec 17, 2020, 6:42 PM

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"Please drink a verification can"

velvet yarrow Dec 17, 2020, 7:09 PM

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Wasn’t space marine a good game?

mint hill Dec 17, 2020, 7:09 PM

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Yeah, it was pretty fun

cunning lantern Dec 17, 2020, 7:09 PM

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It's playable game

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Although I love how you can mostly just run past everything in that game 😄

mint hill Dec 17, 2020, 7:10 PM

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The orks were a little too accurate for my tastes as they say the game is to be played without cover but you just get Dakka'd too much

storm jungle Dec 17, 2020, 7:11 PM

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Yeah its why the shooty ones arent around

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it would be annoying af

prisma lark Dec 17, 2020, 7:12 PM

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cunning lantern Although I love how you can mostly just run past everything in that game 😄

running past orks instead of chainswording them? Now that's heresy!

mint hill Dec 17, 2020, 7:12 PM

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The other annoying thing is when you're preforming a killing animation like with the chainsowrd it can take too god damn long and you just die

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because you'renot invulnerable etc when preforming it. Which is fine, but don't make it the only way to regain hp and make it take 20 seconds

storm jungle Dec 17, 2020, 7:14 PM

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As an expert on the game i can say the animations arent that long

cunning lantern Dec 17, 2020, 7:14 PM

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prisma lark running past orks instead of chainswording them? Now that's heresy!

No it is stated in Codex of Astartes. Here:
"While knowing the plot of reality and what targets you really should kill to end conflict, just run pass every enemy as fast as you can."

storm jungle Dec 17, 2020, 7:14 PM

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its the fuckload of orks that are attacking you that is the issue

prisma lark Dec 17, 2020, 7:15 PM

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the codex astartes does not support this action

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now report to the nearest chaplain

cunning lantern Dec 17, 2020, 7:23 PM

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Only if you can catch me!
Stalker glitch away!

mint hill Dec 17, 2020, 7:54 PM

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lol

crisp heath Dec 17, 2020, 8:41 PM

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blazing garnet ohhh :d

There is still a very much dedicated group of fans who still dow, the UA mod is a blast you gotta try it sometime

upbeat tartan Dec 17, 2020, 8:42 PM

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I need to get around to giving the OG DOW games a proper play

crisp heath Dec 17, 2020, 8:46 PM

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upbeat tartan I need to get around to giving the OG DOW games a proper play

They are totally worth it. I remember playing Dawn of war back in Highschool and putting tons of hours in soul storm multiplayer

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The campaign in the first game is the best, get soul storm for multiplayer since you can get the Ultimate Apocalypse mod for it, we got a whole discord server for it it's a blast dude

upbeat tartan Dec 17, 2020, 8:48 PM

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they have a discord now? times have changed

crisp heath Dec 17, 2020, 8:51 PM

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Hahaha yeah man, it's super active we have 8 person games almost everyday. People from Australia, Russia, England, middle east all over the globe

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I'm hype for this game though, need a pc upgrade

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Although I myself don't really know much of the lore for this game. Just that Chaos is fun to okay, what do you guys think are essential books to read for the series?

ripe sluice Dec 17, 2020, 8:54 PM

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The first books I read were the Eisenhorn series, I think that's a pretty good introduction to the setting.

crisp heath Dec 17, 2020, 9:02 PM

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I'll have to start there then, afterwards some chaos novels

primal tide Dec 17, 2020, 9:41 PM

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+1 for the eisenhorn series being a great introduction

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Check out the lexicanum site, stay away from the 40k wiki

atomic pelican Dec 17, 2020, 9:42 PM

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I rlly suggest Bricky's faction series too

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They give u a pretty rounded idea about all the factions

ancient kayak Dec 17, 2020, 9:42 PM

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Eisenhorn also makes the 40k world work a bit better fluffs out the civilian life like people owning cars and working normal jobs

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Not what some depict it as a throng of people working in only massed factory’s 20h a day ect which is some worlds/ depictions

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For people starting out it’s more of a relatable to people

primal tide Dec 17, 2020, 9:45 PM

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Eisenhorn definitely spends a fair bit of time in the 'nicer' parts of the imperium

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I do love that one planet at the very start, where everyone hibernates for 6 months each year at the same time because it's just stupid fuck cold out

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Wish we got more time there

ancient kayak Dec 17, 2020, 9:47 PM

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I need to sit down and get reading them all especially with that TV series they are making

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Eisenhorn definitely is the right choice for that as they can run it as a gritty detective show with 40k setting

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And the books avoid from what I have been told SM and some of the things which would be hard/ have a chance to look bad in a live action

primal tide Dec 17, 2020, 10:03 PM

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There's a few sm but they are badass and very minor roles

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There's a few servitors tho which will be freaky if they include those

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Someone sitting down to check out a new netflix show is gonna be a hard sell for a creepy necromorph looking fucker just chilling in the front of this gunship while people talk about mundane shit

crisp heath Dec 17, 2020, 10:13 PM

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primal tide I do love that one planet at the very start, where everyone hibernates for 6 mon...

god i wish that were me

primal tide Dec 17, 2020, 10:22 PM

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Right?

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Winter gives me the big sads

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Like, I love snowy days but after a while I want it to be light out for more than 8 hours a day

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Plus how good would it feel to wake up from sleeping in for 6 whole months

atomic pelican Dec 17, 2020, 10:25 PM

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The entire pandemic has felt like a very extended winter

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MegaSleepers

primal tide Dec 17, 2020, 10:26 PM

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But it ruined my summer 😠

atomic pelican Dec 17, 2020, 10:26 PM

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Oh no I agree :p

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That's wha tI mean

primal tide Dec 17, 2020, 10:26 PM

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0 camping, barely any hikes
REEEEE

atomic pelican Dec 17, 2020, 10:27 PM

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OOof!

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Do you go to public campsites?

primal tide Dec 17, 2020, 10:27 PM

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Used to

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Lol

atomic pelican Dec 17, 2020, 10:27 PM

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I just went out a few weeks ago to a little lot with just me and a friend, If you can find like

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somewhere not super populated or somewhere not closed

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FHNJFJHN

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It's actually really funny

primal tide Dec 17, 2020, 10:27 PM

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Yeah, it's just getting a bit too cold up here now

atomic pelican Dec 17, 2020, 10:28 PM

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I was camping when the lockdown started

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It was like coming back in the middle of an apocalypse

primal tide Dec 17, 2020, 10:28 PM

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Haha

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Yeah, I bet

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Like waking up in a hospital after the zombie breakout

atomic pelican Dec 17, 2020, 10:28 PM

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YEAH

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Exactly!

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We joked that we were gonna find the statue of liberty washed up somewhere

primal tide Dec 17, 2020, 10:29 PM

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Haha

crisp heath Dec 17, 2020, 10:46 PM

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i just hate wearing 70 layers and still being cold

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so winter sucks

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and having to wear slippers and pants around the house

primal tide Dec 17, 2020, 10:48 PM

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Pants are lame

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I've always preferred having to cool down in the summer over having to warm up in the winter

tall fjord Dec 17, 2020, 10:48 PM

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i live in the desert, i'd trade with you

primal tide Dec 17, 2020, 10:50 PM

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Haha

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That grass sure does look green from over here

crisp heath Dec 17, 2020, 10:51 PM

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my body doesnt want to make its own heat

primal tide Dec 17, 2020, 10:51 PM

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My wife could be wrapped in 10 blankets and still get colder over time

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Lol

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It's mostly just my hands and feet that get cold and never seem to warm back up

storm jungle Dec 18, 2020, 1:52 AM

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The name "Eldar" comes from J.R.R. Tolkien's elves, who in their own language were called "the Eldar". The history of the Eldar in Warhammer 40,000 mimics that of Tolkien's elves, to the point that they are a "dwindling race" in the game universe, as the elves were in Middle-earth's Third Age. Incidentally, GW has actually copyrighted the term "Eldar".

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HOW

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THEY DIDNT EVEN FOUND THE TERM

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eyespasm

ancient kayak Dec 18, 2020, 1:55 AM

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They have tried to copyright everything for example they were shocked when they could not copy right space marine after trying to sue someone cannot remember who and also were upset when they could not get IG so they changed the name to something they could copy right

storm jungle Dec 18, 2020, 1:56 AM

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Oh god the entire Astra Militarum deal

ancient kayak Dec 18, 2020, 1:56 AM

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As nothing had ever been called IG before especially in France

storm jungle Dec 18, 2020, 1:56 AM

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shhhhh

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Im still surprised how they managed the eldar one tbh.

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I wonder if its just a wiki-hiccup and they meant "Aeldari" instead.

rotund siren Dec 18, 2020, 1:58 AM

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who knows

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that is

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weird

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bonkers, even

ancient kayak Dec 18, 2020, 1:59 AM

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Probably threw money at it after all that’s how they handle all court things throw money and lawyers at it and just make the Court hearing last to long so it gets dropped, whoever they are facing runs out of funds or they win

storm jungle Dec 18, 2020, 1:59 AM

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Eurgh that sounds about accurate

ancient kayak Dec 18, 2020, 1:59 AM

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It’s how they bully there stores

storm jungle Dec 18, 2020, 1:59 AM

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I doubt any of tolkien's kids would care lol

plush mason Dec 18, 2020, 1:59 AM

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or becuz tolkin is dead and he didnt copyright it they can

storm jungle Dec 18, 2020, 2:00 AM

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Im pretty sure it is copyrighted

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GW literally sells LOTR minis

primal tide Dec 18, 2020, 2:00 AM

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storm jungle Im pretty sure it is copyrighted

it is
by GW Smug

plush mason Dec 18, 2020, 2:00 AM

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thats just it

ancient kayak Dec 18, 2020, 2:00 AM

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There was one recently who were a shop was told to do something or there shipment would be late when confronted about it they just kept the proceedings going until the shop owner ran out of funds

plush mason Dec 18, 2020, 2:01 AM

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i dont think tolkin coperighted any of his words

storm jungle Dec 18, 2020, 2:01 AM

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Bruh

ancient kayak Dec 18, 2020, 2:02 AM

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Note most shops they don’t actually own which are called GW they let you sell there products from a shop with there name but many are not owned by GW directly

primal tide Dec 18, 2020, 2:02 AM

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yeah, thats a franchise

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like mcdonalds

ancient kayak Dec 18, 2020, 2:03 AM

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Yep just pointing it out as I find a few are surprised when they have to go round bullying to them there own shops

storm jungle Dec 18, 2020, 2:05 AM

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Actually I got a quote someone said on another server im in regarding this

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They can't make eldar miniatures but they can make miniatures and call them eldar.

To a large degree it's GW being insane. But like, Mithril Miniatures (who still hold a liscence to make LotR Miniatures) can make say.

"Glorfindel lord of the Eldar."

And sell it. And GW can't do shit about it. Mithril's minis liscence for them is old and the GW one is non-exclusive for that IP I believe IE they're traditional pewter casting.

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Pretty interesting

rotund siren Dec 18, 2020, 2:06 AM

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what

ancient kayak Dec 18, 2020, 2:06 AM

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One of GWs lawyer hordes must have been fired for not getting it for them

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Fully

storm jungle Dec 18, 2020, 2:06 AM

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^

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Its really confusing and sad tbh

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how petty must you be to copyright/restrict word usage for money lol

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OH RIGHT

atomic pelican Dec 18, 2020, 2:07 AM

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That GW logo looks a lil fucke dup

primal tide Dec 18, 2020, 2:07 AM

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https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/763840266363994122.png?v=1

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that w is thicc

storm jungle Dec 18, 2020, 2:08 AM

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atomic pelican That GW logo looks a lil fucke dup

Plot twist: its symbolism showing GW is fucked up

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👀

atomic pelican Dec 18, 2020, 2:08 AM

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big brain

storm jungle Dec 18, 2020, 2:08 AM

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brain

atomic pelican Dec 18, 2020, 2:08 AM

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GW with another masterclass SAETAER

primal tide Dec 18, 2020, 2:08 AM

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whoa now, you best be careful with such utterances around these parts dilara

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isnt it past your bedtime anyway?

storm jungle Dec 18, 2020, 2:08 AM

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flushedowo

primal tide Dec 18, 2020, 2:08 AM

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lul

rotund siren Dec 18, 2020, 2:08 AM

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what's GW gonna do, use Fatshark like a puppet?

storm jungle Dec 18, 2020, 2:08 AM

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rotund siren what's GW gonna do, use Fatshark like a puppet?

OH NOOOOOOOO

plucky moth Dec 18, 2020, 2:08 AM

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Games Workshop more like LAME workshop lmao

atomic pelican Dec 18, 2020, 2:08 AM

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james workshop

rotund siren Dec 18, 2020, 2:09 AM

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do they even have any fingers left, considering how many pies they've got?

plucky moth Dec 18, 2020, 2:09 AM

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The Workshop was invented in 1864 by James Workshop

atomic pelican Dec 18, 2020, 2:09 AM

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Around the same time the eldar guardians came out

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how time flies

plucky moth Dec 18, 2020, 2:09 AM

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LUL

ancient kayak Dec 18, 2020, 2:09 AM

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They won’t use them as a puppet just tell them they cannot use things basically only sell them the rights for a few things and make them buy other things to expand

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It cost WTW a lot to have all it did

storm jungle Dec 18, 2020, 2:10 AM

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^
Realistically this would happen lol

distant harness Dec 18, 2020, 2:10 AM

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isn't that just how getting the rights to things works?

ancient kayak Dec 18, 2020, 2:10 AM

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Yes but GW tends to be a bit more odd about it

storm jungle Dec 18, 2020, 2:11 AM

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I swear i read somewhere that you need to pay them extra to feature tabletop units in games lol

ashen zenith Dec 18, 2020, 2:12 AM

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it always confuses me that gw is so strict about its licenses but then it just gives them away at crappy mobile developers to make copy pasted games

rotund siren Dec 18, 2020, 2:12 AM

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makes a fun little GW easter egg, gets fined for 5 billion dollars

storm jungle Dec 18, 2020, 2:12 AM

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ashen zenith it always confuses me that gw is so strict about its licenses but then it just g...

Its been said that they are much more chill about it now

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but im pretty sure its just the boardmembers being simply more cunning

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and realising if they dont shut down stuff like the Astartes animation they get free advertisement and such

distant harness Dec 18, 2020, 2:13 AM

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I've heard so many mixed things about GW legal stuff that I wouldn't even want to talk about it much

storm jungle Dec 18, 2020, 2:13 AM

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Its pretty smart

distant harness Dec 18, 2020, 2:13 AM

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half the conversations are just rumours based off rumours by people who don't really know anything

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and then GW by itself is all over the place in their strategies which makes it even weirder

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like they've hired people from fan projects and don't take issue with others, but then they've sued things for having similar names or for being the wrong sort of fan project, it's just strange overall

ashen zenith Dec 18, 2020, 2:15 AM

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gw has adhd

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cant make up their mind

ancient kayak Dec 18, 2020, 2:16 AM

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“Games Workshop, complained to Amazon.com that an ebook, Spots the Space Marine, infringed its trademarks in the term “space marine.” Turns out Games Workshop sells a popular game, Warhammer 40,000: Space Marine, and has registered marks in the term “space marine” in connection with games. But Games Workshop lost all sense of proportion and decided that it also had trademark rights to the term in books.” The article goes on to talk about trademarks infringement bullying

rotund siren Dec 18, 2020, 2:16 AM

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gw smooth

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smooth as a shark

ancient kayak Dec 18, 2020, 2:16 AM

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Note it lost as amazon put the book back up soon after

ashen zenith Dec 18, 2020, 2:17 AM

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just change the name to "spots the marine from space" ez

plucky moth Dec 18, 2020, 2:18 AM

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GW is suing me for wearing shoulder pads once

rotund siren Dec 18, 2020, 2:18 AM

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lmao

primal tide Dec 18, 2020, 2:21 AM

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gw is suing gw for infringing on all of gws copyrights

plucky moth Dec 18, 2020, 2:29 AM

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https://tenor.com/view/math-zack-galifianakis-thinking-calculating-gif-5120792

Tenor

dull flame Dec 18, 2020, 3:28 AM

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📎 Salamanders-Space-Marine-Imperium-Warhammer-40000-6365317.jpeg

dull flame Dec 18, 2020, 5:24 AM

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📎 Eddy-Gonzalez-Davila-Space-Marine-Imperium-Warhammer-40000-6331184.jpeg

foggy laurel Dec 18, 2020, 8:54 AM

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Man based on the newly revealed characters

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Can we fight a single Death Guard?

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And not get turned into paste?

odd sparrow Dec 18, 2020, 8:55 AM

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sure, whether or not regular humans can take on a marine/whatever is purely up to whoever's writing the story

foggy laurel Dec 18, 2020, 8:56 AM

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Ahhh the good old GW inconsistency

odd sparrow Dec 18, 2020, 8:56 AM

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It should be difficult tho, if we get death guard it'll probs be as a boss or something like that

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i don't see them including them as elite enemies or whatever

foggy laurel Dec 18, 2020, 8:56 AM

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Yeah should be as threatening as a like a Stormfiend

mint hill Dec 18, 2020, 8:56 AM

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I mean, being an astartes doesn't mean they are unkillable, It's really their power armor that makes them rough to kill.

foggy laurel Dec 18, 2020, 8:57 AM

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You kinda forget sometimes how rare a Space Marine is

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Since they're so ubiquitous in 40k

odd sparrow Dec 18, 2020, 8:57 AM

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plus marines are biologically extremely hard to kill, plus being hard to kill is kinda the death guard's whole gimmick

mint hill Dec 18, 2020, 8:57 AM

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They'd likely be like.. Chaos warriors. It's just a 'standard' foot soldier, not chosen or terminators etc

odd sparrow Dec 18, 2020, 8:57 AM

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yea marines are rare

atomic pelican Dec 18, 2020, 8:57 AM

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Yee itd totally possible. I personally would like to see more traitor guard stuff

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I thinj

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A deathguard would be a final boss or a named boss if anything